The WAN Show - AMD just Spoiled Intel's Party!! - WAN Show May 22, 2020

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You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that goal to beat your personal best?

Keep chasing it. Drive your ambition. Mitsubishi motors welcome my ladies and frentlements to the land show we've got a fantastic show for you guys this week a lot of great tech topics actually not a whole lot went down, but I definitely want to address the controversy that took place in my Twitter mentions over the weekend. It was a very controversial topic, me having an SSD that runs faster than the one in the PlayStation 5. There were some people who were pretty mad about that. Very mad, very mad indeed.

Illegal. Not allowed. very mad illegal not allowed and and i should clarify that there were some aspects of the ps5 ssd that we did in fact fail to mention on last week's episode but we will get more into that a little bit later for now let's talk through some of the new topics for the week we've got intel's 10th core cpu launch We've got AMD shifting. They are going to be supporting Zen 3 on their B450 and X470 motherboards. This is a big deal for people who don't like buying new motherboards,

but do like having faster CPUs. What else we got, Luke? Intel acquires Rivet Networks. Wow, hooray. Also, copy-paste in real life. did i don't there's i mean there's news but what do maternal remove the kernel level denuvo nonsense that's kind of a big deal a corporation listened yeah like that's news for sure people people play that game for the single player and it's been out for a little bit so like probably the majority of people have already

played it now and then they removed it so it's kind of you know i will let you finish but uh it's like it's nice for some people and maybe if some people didn't get it because of that they can get it now which is cool but like yeah it was already running on most of people's computers copy paste in real life super cool actually copy paste in real life you Super cool, actually. Copy paste in real life. You can get all that copy pasta. All right. Seasoned glue. Let's roll that intro now that I have actually fixed the YouTube feed and it's actually live now. And get on with the topics.

Topics. They're kind of like toppings, you know? Like if the WAN show was a pizza, the topics, they're the toppings. Yeah. They make it spicy. Like if the WAN show was a pizza, the topics, they're the toppings. Yeah. They make it spicy. And if one of your toppings was Intel buying a company, you might be like, ugh, pineapple again?

If you don't like pineapple. What? Meanwhile, I love pineapple. You're going to start that fight. Why would you even bring it up then? Why are you starting that fight? Why are you going to be like that? You know, forget it. No, no, I don't want to hear about it. We're rolling the intro. No, the gonna be like that? No the intro is rolling I don't even want it

Roll in that intro i don't even care i don't even care if you don't like pineapple i do it doesn't matter what you think well i don't even care if you do now because i don't care what you think anymore yeah yeah yeah you like that you like that all right counter all right why don't we jump right into our first topic of the day intel's 10th gen core series launch now i seem to have created a bit of a fecal storm over this past week for making the somewhat controversial video called uh why i still love intel or like i still love intel whatever i don't remember what i what i called the video but basically my shirt in that video by the way thank you thank you i was you know i wanted to wear a blue shirt because i was like you know hey i want to have like a i want to have like a blue theme to the

video right um so i wanted to have a blue shirt and i went through my drawer and literally the only blue shirt that i own is my float plane shirt and i was like this is great this is great so it's called why i still love intel and um i feel like i need to clarify a couple of points for the 41. 65% of you that didn't make it to the end of the video before leaving a comment, I can see that, guys. I can see if you actually finished the video. The point that I was trying to make in the video is that, hey, guys, all the talented, hardworking people at Intel, we know that you're not responsible for some of the bad decisions that are being made. Stay the course and keep doing the things that are good about Intel.

And then I came out and said some of the things that I like and appreciate about Intel based on my personal experiences and based on numbers that I had access to when I was working at NCIX for things like how their reliability compares to their competitors across a number of different spaces. Now there was one Intel product line that I personally had bad experiences with and observed just didn't seem to be very good. That was their motherboards. Well, they ditched them. They ditched them. They're gone. And since then, pretty much everything across the board has been rock solid. Now there have been problems. There's, and I acknowledge the problems in the video for

those of you who didn't make it to that point of the video and left, um, actually comments, correcting me, um, meltdown, big problem, specter, big problem. Uh, the Thunderbolt three direct memory access, um, vulnerability. It's a big problem. We talked problem uh the thunderbolt 3 direct memory access um vulnerability it's a big problem we talked about that too they've had a lot of problems but what they also have is fewer problems when it comes to most things then move your mouse cursor move my mouse cursor oh is it in the way it's's on my face. Oh, sorry about that. Oh, really? Oh, that's so weird because your window is actually behind my dock. Oh, I can't see that I'm on your face. Oh, that's so funny. Anyway, so the point was I brought up that I appreciate the actual engineers and Intel still has a ton of great engineers doing great work who are just trying

to build the best products that they can and i lamented the lack of resources that have been given to areas that the business people deemed to be not growth markets things like enthusiast cpus for gamers so i think a lot of people got as far as the title got mad mad because once they're angry, the blood pressure rises in their ears and they can't actually hear anything anymore. And then didn't bother to watch the video because it was less about how I'm, you know, simping Intel, which was a popular comment. And I definitely wasn't paid. Like anyone who thinks I was paid to make that video has absolutely no idea how sponsored videos work.

Also look up like Linus walking in the rain. Just no clue. I mean, Intel has been a long time sponsor for us. Yeah. Reality check. So has AMD. So has Nvidia. So has, let's see, who have we not worked with?

Why don't I make a list of companies that we have not done sponsored work for? The videos on the rarely side of things. No, they've done a handful of things lately. They did that 240 FPS thing. That was a big project. We brought Shroud in and everything. So here's the list.

All right. We got Apple. here's the list all right we got apple i mean guys hit me hit me in the comments hit me in the comments it's like it's a funny thing right because there's sort of two ways you can be unbiased you can take nobody's money or you can just take everyone's because i i don't gaf like what what do i care like hit me up here, guys. Yeah, it's, yeah. I was going to say it's better, just in case someone didn't get that. It is better to do one or the other.

If you're going to take money from some people, you should take money from everyone. Oscar LS91 in Floatplane Chat says, Cisco, we have worked with Cisco on multiple occasions. We have worked with Microsoft on multiple occasions. We have worked with Microsoft on multiple occasions. How about Red? You tinkered with their camera, but did they ever sponsor it? No. Red, we have not worked with in a sponsored way,

but we have definitely worked with them. Valve, no. No, we have not worked with Valve. G.Skill. G.Skill, absolutely. We've worked with G.Skill. NZXT, for sure. Yep.

You pretty much name it in the industry. We've pretty much worked with them. Adobe, we have never done... When did we work with G.Skill and ZXT for sure. Yep. You pretty much name it in the industry. We've pretty much worked with them. Adobe, we have never done... When did we work with G.Skill? G.Skill, we did a video with their 768 gigs of memory in a single system back at Computex 2019 or 18. Yeah. Yep.

Okay. Yep. Pretty much everyone. IBM, absolutely. Ubiquiti, yes. we did pimp my neighbor's wi-fi people are like the timing of the video made it a bit suspicious as to the purpose of it the purpose of it was explicitly stated in the video the purpose of it was here's what i see in the news i see dangerous news. I see Intel going in a direction that I've seen them go before that could have unforeseen consequences and I wanted to say hey guys why don't we not do that?

Why don't we stick to the things that are good about Intel, keep the products reliable, take your time, do it properly. Your time to fight the good fight is gonna come again it's not right now you're still stuck on 14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus or whatever so and i said this in the video i said it explicitly in the video guys you need to just take it on the chin for a little bit stay reliable don't even try to be the fastest when you if you can't do it don't hurt the reputation with the average consumer because what i pointed out in the video is that while things like um you know oh man like management

engine vulnerabilities are going to hurt your reputation with the general with with the tech enthusiast like guys like you or me we're the ones looking at you know oh specter meltdown this is this is terrible the average consumer i mean luke you actually had to work on some mitigation stuff for specter and meltdown on the floatplane side of things what would be your take on the average consumers impact from those very very little uh next to none potentially some services got more expensive or shut down at that time um so your like access to things might have been slightly annoying i doubt anyone on the the personal side of things was affected basically at all that's the thing and so what i brought up in the videos i said look when motherboards are frying know, when you take a motherboard out of a case and turn it around and the back of it is like dark brown, okay, all around where the VRMs are,

that has the potential to impact the average consumer who just goes to Best Buy and buys a gaming machine with a Core i9 or whatever because they heard it's the best for gaming. Don't do that. Just be 3% or 5% slower and don't fry a motherboard, right? That's all I was trying to say. And I think people really took it. I think people just kind of took it however they wanted to take it. And a lot of people got it, but it's just, it's one of those things that can be very discouraging to read through the comments on. Another thing that was very frustrating, and this was just kind

of comedy of errors, because I knew people were already going to be a little bit sensitive around that. We ended up having to, I'll just be 100% upfront with you guys, we ended up having to rush our review of the processors a little bit due to staffing issues around the COVID-19 thing. the processors a little bit due to staffing issues around the COVID-19 thing. So I can't, I'm not going to give any specifics. I can't comment on the health of the various people at Linus Media Group or, you know, whether they're working in the office or whether they're working from home. That's all personal information. All I can say is that the production of that video was affected by staffing levels and or people's access to the hardware in a timely manner. And there was one particular error that we really shouldn't have made.

Normally, we include our cooler on the test bench slide. Sorry, excuse me. Normally, we include it on the graphs because we moved from having it on the test bench slide over to there. And then there was a snafu with the graphs. We had to make some changes. And it was going to be on the graphs this time, but wasn't so it wasn't in either of those places and some people looking for a conspiracy theory figured oh we were we were intel apologists because we hid

that we used the corsair h110i as our cooler that was not our intention to hide it and the only reason that the comment showed up six hours later was because I don't wake up at six in the morning. So someone else launched the video. And it wasn't until much, much later after I had started my work day that I went in to the comments and I was like, holy crap, we didn't have the cooler in the thing. Hey, we need to get a comment on there. We need to get it pinned.

Let's get this dealt with. That's the kind of thing that I do end up still having to do myself, even though I wish other people would make those observations. Generally speaking, it is kind of time for people to not need me to do that. And it is actually in the video publication guide that you need to sit and monitor the video for about 10 minutes, see if people are mad about anything and if there's anything we need to fix, but whatever, it it's minor things i also understand when you wake up at six in the morning i mean i used to do it for embargo releases myself yeah i'm up at like six in the morning i'm like publish yeah i remember when you couldn't even schedule them so no matter

when someone's embargo lift was you actually had to wake up and like go get in in their defense a little bit maybe that comment didn't come in in the first like 10 minutes or something that's possible um it's possible no one even noticed for the first couple hours i doubt it but it's possible i want to throw some companies at you i know the answer for some of these um sure someone someone mentioned nintendo i know the answer for this uh no we, we have. We have. Wrong. Yeah, you did a thing. Yes.

That's right. Yes. What about Amazon? Amazon. Oh, man. Okay, so with Amazon, we are an Amazon associates. And it's so funny because you need to, like their legalese in the agreement is so explicit about how you cannot claim to be

affiliated with amazon even though the program like the ur they changed the name of the program they changed it to amazon associates a number of years back but the url you go to is still like affiliate-amazon.com or whatever like so it's literally called like the website you go to is literally called amazon affiliate but you're not to is literally called Amazon Affiliate, but you're not allowed to say you're affiliated with Amazon. So I got to be so careful about how I approach Amazon. We do make money through having paid links under the videos, but we are not affiliated, sponsored by, or associated directly with Amazon,

even though I have an Amazon Associates account and I go to affiliate-amazon.com or whatever to get at my dashboard. All right, there. I think that was a safe way to say it because if you don't say it the safe way, they can kick you out of the program and there is literally no appeals process. So I need to very very careful but i will say this a significant chunk you can go back and watch our honest answers how does linus media group make money a significant chunk of our

revenue comes from amazon and we have worked with them in like a pr sense so i did that video down at the uh that touchless amazon store um or, or the count, uh, the counterless one where you just, uh, what's it called? Amazon go store. Yep. So we've like worked with them in that sense and we definitely get checks from them once a month. So I don't know. That's a gray area. Gray area. The last one. Yeah. Uh, SK Hynix. Yeah. We've worked with SK Hynix. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I So I spent actually a while. Yeah. There was some comments, does Luke even listen to lies?

I was listening to lies. I spent a while on Newegg trying to find a company that we hadn't worked with and I could not. Yep. Someone brought up Juniper Networks before. I don't believe we've ever worked with Juniper Networks. All right. I mean, there's some examples, but like. So back to the 10th gen core launches um as it

turned out my concerns about intel's approach to this launch were both validated but also um invalidated is kind of how i felt after i saw the real numbers so i recorded the video about being worried about the direction they were going before I had seen any actual confirmed thermal or performance numbers. And I was happy to see that on good cooling, even fully unlocked by like shaving down the dye, which I don't know if they got the idea from Der Bauer or if he got the idea from them that you could actually shave down the dye on the old ones a little bit. Anyway, they shaved down the dye a little bit. Turns out they got a very significant improvement in thermal conductivity through the IHS. They were able to keep the thermals under control using a cooling solution that I would consider to

be like enthusiast grade, you know, like gamer rig grade without being too far over the top. I think a 280 mil radiator AIO is reasonable if like obviously expensive. So I was pleased to see that, you know, we were running at about 80 degrees, even fully unlocked with what I would consider to be a high end, but not you know DIY water cooling cooler I was disappointed oh okay sorry the other thing that I was happy about was that they didn't make these compromises without even sort of achieving anything they did manage to hold on to the the gaming performance crown which I think is something that's very important to them and they they pulled it off you know even if it meant pushing this thing to the limit and you know good on them you know good for you guys uh at least it was it was worth it because

we had people point out that i didn't make the same video about amd back when they were getting beat up i was like there's a couple issues that. One is that this was a very different channel 10 years ago. You know, so there's that. Number two is that, you know, AMD wasn't, how do I put it this way? Like they weren't in a position where there was like something that I still liked about them. And they also weren't even really like still releasing stuff. Like, yeah, like it wasn't it wasn't competitive at all it was just sort of like yeah if you're on a super-de-duper budget

then i guess you could get one of these even though it's both slow and hot and and it's loud too on top of that if we want to compare similar situations which it sounds like they're doing yeah we're like there's a new processor coming up from that company we were very amd favorable when they were actually releasing a new processor well we were very much being like yeah i hope it's great i hope it's awesome this is going to be great it's fun to have more competition all that kind of stuff so apples to apples no i i think you absolutely did you're talking about you're talking about about five years ago i'm going back even farther when they were releasing new processors but my issue

was you know when i talk about the things that i do like about intel which is the people like the actual people who do the actual work not the executive people um i really like the people there and one of my problems with amd way back in the day almost no one that i interacted with back then is still there so i'm not too worried about saying this um but some of the people that i worked with made it very difficult to like amd and it was just stupid things like lying to me misleading me about how good an upcoming product was going to be like i remember this one time i pulled an all-nighter or it might not have been quite an all-nighter but nearly an all-nighter trying to work on my my review of this new cpu and i was running the testing over and over and over again

trying to get the numbers that i was expecting based on what they were telling me they were telling me this thing was going to be awesome and it was going to overclock like a like a bat out of hell it was gonna you know amd is going to be back in the conversation and it and it wasn't and they weren't and i and i was doubting my numbers and doubting them and doubting them to the point where i stayed up until the embargo lift and i waited to read someone else's review because i was still pretty new to the game to see if i was right and and i was and i was just like well then why didn't you just tell me that it was mediocre? Next time, just tell me it's mediocre so that we can... Because if you can't live in the same reality, you can't have a conversation, right? You can't agree on anything.

You know, it's like if we can't agree that the earth being warmer is bad, then how do we have a conversation about, you know, how to address it? Or like what the cause is, right? So that's why you didn't see that video. It was a very different channel. They didn't make videos like that. I didn't consider myself in a position to make commentary on my years-long observations of these companies.

I was just like a junior sales guy at a computer store. Then the other issue was I didn, I just didn't really, I didn't really have that argument to make for them. Now, back to the AMD of today, who I'm like pretty listoked on. They are really, are really putting the gears to Intel here. So back to the 10th gen launch, we actually reviewed the 10, uh, the 10 900 K reasonably favorably. We said, okay, yeah, it consumes too much power. Um, it requires a new socket, which blows, but this is what we said at the time. At least you don't, uh, sorry. Uh, we said, yeah, it's so it's's but at least it's fast it retains the gaming crown

and the performance per dollar doesn't look that bad well okay now we got a problem because amd pulled a couple of moves this week so there was of course we'll talk about this in more detail later the move where they're going to allow zen 3 to run on b450 and x470 boards that's pretty sick but the other big one was they actually slashed the pricing on their 3900x so that's their 12 core kind of price competitor to the 10900k by a hundred dollars that thing is now 389 at micro center i can tell you right now my conclusion to that video would have been pretty different if amd had dropped that price drop before we worked on the review. Holy smokes.

I wonder how much that's going to impact things. Because I doubt very many creators. Like, there's an audience that watches all the content. There's an audience that watches just wanshow whoever they are and then there's an audience that are how's it going uh that like basically just watch these like big launch type of things yes they'll probably watch like the the top end nvidia card review when it comes out they'll watch the the new top end intel chip when it comes out top end amd chip when it comes out and then mostly just not outside of that. Those people might not hear about this. Right.

It's interesting. I wonder how much that'll change sales. You know, I don't know. I mean, it's funny how the audience is kind of segmented into different groups. Like Twitter, you know, loves the dank memes, whereas Instagram really gets into the like, great, you know, product product shots and they love the stories

over there uh the YouTube audience is kind of fragmented in and of itself like you said there's the people that only tune into Wancho and the algorithm's so good at knowing what you're likely to click on so it'll just only serve you the stuff you like I mean there's people who they'll like comment on a video they're like Lin minus has got like two sponsors and every video in this video like what the f and i'm like we have had two sponsor spots per video for quite literally years and i'm not one of those people who throws around the word literally for literally years we have had two sponsors in almost every single video, except for ones that are like fully sponsored videos. And then WAN Show, which used to have two and now has three and has had three for years.

I think there's maybe been like the trees video. Was there any on that one? No, that was an exception. So there's some like hyper abnormalities where there's like a video here or there every once in a blue moon. Yeah. But outside of that. That was one of those ones

where it felt like kind of in poor taste to have a sponsor for like a charity participation thing. So we were like, ah, yeah, let's make this more about giving away money and less about making money. But even our April Fool's make this more about giving away money and less about making money but even our april fools joke this year where i like supposedly am like you know being stealth filmed by a whistleblower on the staff we still managed to and riley actually pushed back against me on this he was like

look i think it's gonna i think it's gonna kill the the vibe i think it's gonna kill the vibe. I think it's going to kill the believability of it for the people that would fall for it. And I was like, look, man, we got 365 upload slots a year. You know, if I give the business team a target that says 100% fill rate and they don't hit it, you want that hanging on your head? That's what thought we're putting the sponsors in we just need to find a way to integrate them in in like uh you know an unbeknownst to linus he was being recorded filming a sponsor spot and we did them in kind of like a flippant you know do i get paid now you know like we made it seem like i was i was actually this persona that i was playing for the video i had so much fun shooting that video, man. Dude, I had no idea what was going on. When I watched the final piece,

I remember watching it through the whole time being like, wow, I didn't think this is where that was going. No clue at all. I don't remember what I thought it was, but I didn't think it was that. Oh, it was so much fun. You know, the original script was that Colton was going to be the mastermind and I was a puppet. That was the original kind of conspiracy theory that our whistleblower was blowing the lid off of.

And we had these, you know, it was actually a really good script i i might you know what am i uh am i connected i am i am i'm connected i can i can pull this up i'm gonna pull it up because riley deserves a shout out for the original version of it so i don't know i don't know if i've someone said i acted so badly yeah they made me act sad that just wasn't oh so i loved it i absolutely loved it uh april fools 2020 here it is um i remember me saying like yeah i don't think i'm gonna be able to do a very good job like i'll give it a shot but like i don't think i'm gonna be able to do this very well and then someone going back and talking to linus and

i could overhear linus being like yeah he's he's not going to be able to do that. I know your acting skills, man. I know. I know. So they brought me, Riley brought me an early version of the script. And I don't know how much you guys know about our process, but I actually, I actually got in sort of a semi-tiff with someone on the forum about this a little while ago. Because they basically accused me of being like, know the anchorman right uh from the will ferrell movie you know just i just read whatever's put in front of me and i actually have no idea what i'm talking about and so i was like okay okay okay asshole um here's my deal then why don't i just post and i posted a raw script that one of the writers,

and I didn't name any names, but that one of the writers brought me and I posted the finished script side by side. I was like, okay, go ahead. You tell me that I don't actually take my position as editor-in-chief here seriously. Almost every script on LTT and TechWiki for the past two to three years has been reviewed by me before anyone read it. There are exceptions. Anything that is vlogged, obviously I can't review something that wasn't pre-written. And TechWiki has been more of a John James tandem over the last couple of months. But up until that point, I am reading this stuff and I'm working on it and I'm often making a lot of changes because I feel like

as the person who has as much experience as most of the writing team combined doing this, I'm still in a position where I can do that. I want that to change. I want the day to come where they tell me, no, look, this is how it needs to be done. And I'll go, you know what? I defer to you because you get it right more often than I do these days. And some of them are getting like really good. And I'm not going to name any names because I wouldn't talk about an HR thing like on a live stream like this. But, you know, I'm still in a position where I feel like I do need to make a lot of changes. Anyway, here's a couple little fun bits from the original script. So the scene is, this is how it would open. The scene is writer's meeting.

Linus is wrapping up the meeting, dismissing everyone. People file out. The camera's still low, follows Linus back to the writer's room, stays back as Linus goes into the office. The camera slowly moves towards his office, revealing Linus standing still, facing away from the camera. He's just standing there. Creepy music builds up as the camera slowly zooms in. Then Linus suddenly moves towards his desk and the camera jerks away. We hear a bass hit cut to black. It's like the way Riley had this written was so cool. And then at the end of it. Okay, here we go.

So the scene in my office, do you remember that scene, Luke? I think so. Okay, so I'm reading like Asus ROG reboot. Yes, okay, yeah, yeah. And James tells me to get the script, and then I flip out at him. I'm like, look, if you want me to say ROG, then you need to put ROG on the script, okay?

And I throw down the paper or whatever. I tell him to redo it or something like that. Here's the original version of that scene. Overhead security cam footage. Linus practicing script with Colton. Linus holding script. Hey guys, welcome to this year's ROG rig reboot. And then Colton interrupts and goes,

no, damn it, Linus. It's ROG, not ROG, you idiot. You absolute numpty. And Colton walks out. And then I go like, oh, geez, Colton, that's how it's spelled. So the original concept was actually that Colton is like the mastermind behind this whole thing. And I'm a total puppet. And the joke is the same, that I actually don't know how to build a computer.

I don't know anything about PCs. But the punchline is different. And I was like, okay, guys, I just don't think Colton has the acting stones. And man, I want to find the thing they had written for you. Let me see if I've got it. Okay, here we go. Wan Choset, Linus and Luke.

Wait, no, actually your lines were still the same he talked he talked me into keeping yours man when riley showed me how he wanted you to do it i wanted this 10 years ago i just it's never gonna work i love it oh i thought it was great i thought it was great oscar goes to luke lafreniere oh no oh no i enjoyed it i enjoyed it um i think that's one of those ones where like the actor doesn't show up because they're like i'm not gonna win this they're not that dumb all right uh 10th gen launch uh what are what are we talking about um yeah i mean i guess we already talked through the 10th gen stuff so uh oh right the other thing right now i have one more point to make about that the last thing that i said in that uh that that i thought was really important

that i think people overlooked was the part um from the, what I still love about Intel from that video was the part where I said, like, look, you know, the people who are savvy, I pointed out, I'm running AMD almost everywhere now. The people who are savvy are going to, wait, what? Oh, Anthony's putting stuff in the dock right now. Okay, I'll address that later, Anthony. Um, the, the point that I made was like, I'm running AMD and for an enthusiast like you, and I even specifically said like you, the viewer, I'm recommending AMD, but when it comes to a more mainstream person that I just like never want to hear from about this computer again, I'm more likely. And I said, more likely, I didn't say guarantee. AMD makes great stuff. I just said, I'm more likely to say I said more likely, I didn't say guarantee. AMD makes great stuff.

I just said I'm more likely to say, yeah, just get the Intel one because there are issues that you can run into around things like the USB chipset that's built into your motherboard. It's been a long time since Intel's made a USB chip set that's been, you know, problematic is what I'll say. I actually kind of wish that Intel sold their USB controllers just on standalone cards rather than having to put an Asmedia one or, you know what I've actually had really good reliability with or really good consistency from? I still have some of those ancient nec usb controller cards do you remember like the first usb3 cards yeah man if i just need something to work i go get one of those throw that in a pcie slot and i'm humming it's happening it's good stuff

yeah sometimes i just want stuff to work muddle dick says prove this is live but that's how it's pronounced what do you want from me geez all right i will acknowledge anthony's note now anthony's note with zen 3 around the corner amd seems to be playing for market share first and profit second yeah the 3900x is a crazy value with that latest price drop. Holy shnikes. Like that's what I'm running in my rig here. I can use NVENC encoding. I can just use X264 encoding when I'm streaming. It just doesn't give any cares.

That thing chews through anything. And Anthony also asks, do I get full marks for not including our own review in the WAN doc this time? He included Anantak and GamersNexus, who probably, yeah, did do a more thorough job than we did this time around. So there's that.

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You know what, PIA? I've had enough of your nonsense. I've had enough of your attitude. Look at these guys. Let's just make our own show and talk about privacy. Look at these guys. I don't actually have fixed talking points for them i can kind of say whatever i want as long as you guys just keep signing up for pia so yeah go check them out at the link in the video all right tell me about your hammer luke it's hammer time i don't i don't think there's been an update i think i think uh the last update was from february 5th 2020 hammer time hey and i think that one was mentioned on lancha already so i think the coal bar hammer still has no yeah this is the same update as before okay well that's a shame all right do you want to talk us through the next thing i feel like i've actually been talking a lot i'm sorry have

i not let you talk today did i did i do that again i'm sorry today's been better than last week last week was a doozy wow all right well why don't you why don't you pick a topic and walk us through it okay i just got sick burned right copy paste copy paste in real life you can't even let me do the topic title uh copy paste in real life you need to screen share this uh the twitter link screen share is probably the best one sure super super cool it's an ar prototype thing uh the prototype code allows the user to take pictures of objects uh it kind of snips the object out and then allows you to paste them directly into it says here photoshop i thought it looked like something else but whatever um the creator oh i'm gonna butcher your name i am very sorry

cyril dagme sure uh uses bassnet boundary aware salient object detection to identify and cut out objects where it like picks one specific object out of your picture and is able to place them into Photoshop. Right now, it takes about 2.5 seconds to cut and about four seconds to paste, but there's this cool little animation thing. What the F? There are tons of ways to speed up the whole flow.

This is relatively early on. The popularity of the original tweet prompted Cyril to take the code from prototype to app and currently has a splash page up for requesting access at acropypaste.app acropypaste.app

So A-R-C-O-P-Y paste dot app. That is really cool. That's some futurey stuff right there. Not going to lie. I love it. Super, super cool. I love it.

A-R copy paste dot app. There you go. A-R copy paste dot app. Oh my goodness. That's what it is. I thought he was trying to do like pies in Python. Yeah, your dyslexia is showing, Luke. Acro.

Acropieface.com. You're great. This is why I love you. Oh, my God. This is why I don't talk. Well, you can talk. It's just the reading and talking. it's a bit of an issue yeah the teleprompter used to be a real struggle for him it was really hard well i had to basically oh my

um i had to basically memorize like pre-memorize so i could read one or two words and i would just know in my head the whole rest of the thing well some of your problems were sort of self-inflicted you know the fact that you wouldn't get glasses you know you couldn't see so yeah i have them he's a touch dyslexic and he's trying to read this thing and talk at the same time and he doesn't get glasses i don't think i've ever seen you wear glasses yeah when did you get those it's weird i haven't worn these in a while so and the most ironic thing is that there's been a significant period of time in his life when a significant person in his orbit was heavily involved in glasses and the glasses industry, and he still didn't have any bloody glasses.

When did you even get those? Right before a job change, because it made the most sense not my job got it got it that makes sense the other person's yes yeah got it they are 100 not needed throughout the computer so i'm gonna take them off now but yeah these are my glasses i uh i had a hard time picking frames for a long time you look smart too i went to a football game with my dad yeah and i was like his glasses are cool i want those ones seriously that was it yeah that was it they're the exact same frames remember football games yeah it's weird it's been a long time it's been kind of rough eh like not going out yeah hey my

badminton gym is finally opening up next week oh wow yeah it's gonna cost almost twice as much to go because they've got like hard limits on the number of people that are allowed in the facility and per court so is it gonna be i'm assuming it's not drop in courts anymore i don't remember how what you call that but you rent a whole court now i'm assuming yeah doing court rentals uh or uh lessons so i was actually supposed to start doing badminton training again like right before this whole thing went down so i'm actually starting my class now i'm really excited oh cool nice all right why don't we have a look at what else we've got here today i wanted to talk about

amd listening zen 3 to support b450 and x470 this is huge deal. This was posted on the forum by... It didn't get filled out by whoever... by Tedney! Tedney on the forum, AMD reversed its decision to limit the BIOSes on 400 series chipsets. Here's an excerpt from the statement. We heard our audience and we understand the concerns. We're gonna work out a way to support Zen 3 on our 400 series chipsets between now and launch. We're still working on the what and the how but we will update you closer to the zen 3 launch that's pretty freaking awesome that's quite the commitment i was already at the point where i would have forgiven them and i would have said hey you know what as far as i can tell from everything

i've seen you guys really you did your best and i understand if you just need to if you need to shed some some dead weight in order to bring us the very best zen 3 that you can if they had said that i just said okay cool but this is even better this is great this means that anyone who invested in even a b450 board is going to be moving into the freaking future here now we don't know you know what this is going to mean for uh you know because is wait is zen 3 rumored to be ddr5 and 3dr5 what's that let me have a look here um blah blah blah blah blah no i don't think so it looks like zen 4 is supposed to be ddr5 um yeah okay yeah no we have no indication

they're going to be moving away from that so either way people who got a b450 board like you know year two years ago they're going they're going zen 3 we are expecting zen 3 to be a very significant performance uplift compared to zen 2 um just based on what we know about it so far. And I personally am pretty, pretty jazzed. Uh, yeah. I mean, yeah. What else, what else is there to say? They've still got six plus months. Um, the cool thing is that AMD is finally in this position where they're not desperate, right? Like there was no doubt in my mind that first gen Ryzen was rushed. It was super rushed yeah oh yeah it was the kind of thing that you know i was well my whole why i still love intel it was like what i

was telling intel hey make sure you don't do this because that launch was a whole different level of buggy there were problems up and down the product stack and throughout the entire ecosystem. It was the kind of product that I reviewed positively, but from like, hey, I can see the potential here standpoint, not from a like, hey, the experience that I had holding this product right now was very good and you should buy it kind of standpoint. And a lot of people held off buying it because of that. But I think also like even with hindsight, that was probably the right move for AMD at the time. Oh well they had no choice what choice did they have they had no

money yeah but what's cool is amd is now in a position where even six months from now they can confidently say intel won't have some kind of random ace up their sleeve to compete with Zen 2 Plus, or excuse me, with Zen 2 in their Ryzen 3, Ryzen 3rd Gen series. So, okay, if it takes us another month, then we'll just spend another month. Isn't that fantastic? Like, what a time. The last time that happened was like 10 years ago. Honestly, 10 years ago. Wait, no. Wow. No no it was longer ago than that holy crap when was the athlon x2 it was like 15 years ago wow when did i get like old luke yeah dual core desk april 2005 it was almost exactly 15 years ago. Holy bananas. I hate this.

This sucks. Anyway. Can you believe it's almost freaking June and we're still stuck inside? Wow. Anyways. So most motherboards have 16 megs of onboard storage and CPUs can only address the first 16 megs of a BIOS chip.

So we might see an issue where 400 series motherboards end up having two forked BIOSes, kind of like what we've seen already. So one for up to Ryzen 3000 inclusive and one for Ryzen 3000 and beyond. So the former would likely be a default BIOS, which would be picked, because I mean, people who have the older stuff, I guess,

would be less likely to just kind of have extra stuff on hand. Maybe that's the rationale. I'm not sure. So the former would likely be the default which would be picked up by an auto update however the latter could be like a beta by beta bios or a secondary bios and would require user intervention i ran into this recently on a b450 board that i wanted to put ryzen third gen on even so amd will enable the odm partners with the feature however it will be up to the actual motherboard manufacturer to enable it as a feature on that motherboard or on that pre-built system

if they're so if they're not willing to complicate matters with this weird bios fork thing then unfortunately you are plum out of luck it is believed that most of the vendors are going to be on board are going to want to be on board straight away and then the rest will probably have to follow because what choice are you going to have right like you don't want to be on board straight away um and then the rest will probably have to follow because what choice are you going to have right like you don't want to be the one that's like the only one that screwed your customers with backwards or forwards compatibility it's not a great look oh what else we got in here that's important tiger lake first tiger lake laptop the shift 13. Oh, okay.

Tiger Lake is Intel's upcoming mobile CPU line. This was posted in the doc by Alex probably because he's usually into that stuff. According to Intel, Tiger Lake will be using technology from their dedicated graphics project. So this would be Intel Xe graphics. And we could see a two times improvement in integrated GPU performance over Ice Lake, which was already a massive jump.

Intel has made gigantic strides in graphics performance over the last few generations, and this could finally make them competitive with AMD's Vega iGPUs. Of course, by that time, AMD could be doing some kind of next generation iGPUs, so we'll see. That's the thing about technology, right? The bar just keeps moving. There'll be several iGPU units with 48, 80, and 96 execution units

and the 3DMark Firestrike results from NotebookCheck looks like the 48EU version will be coming on new i3 processors and is 20% faster than the current Ice Lake i7s. Pretty cool stuff. So the low end is faster than the old high end. Love it. What else we got here

oh yeah denuvo anti-cheat um there's a couple kind of big deal things so denuvo anti-cheat is going to support steam play uh proton that's kind of awesome very cool yeah so linux gamers have been dealing with anti-cheat mucking up games that would otherwise work. Like there's no reason the game can't work other than that the anti-cheat software doesn't understand that it's running on Linux and blocks it. So this is pretty cool. But Doom Eternal is also just removing the kernel level Denuvo anti-cheat so maybe it's some other kind of Denuvo anti-cheat that's gonna be helpful in this case. Anyway they added it on may the 14th and here we are only eight days later and they have committed to

getting rid of it which is great because it's like been horrible for almost every game has been part of yeah that's neat um so the reason they chose it was to protect battle mode players from cheaters this is this is from um the doom subreddit executive producer yeah go ahead that whole argument is getting messy right now because they're like there's the the ring zero anti-cheat that riot has put out yeah and like there's still hackers in valorant so you know root kidding everyone's computer that has your game and still being ineffective is really not a great look um i mean how is that i you don't get just riddle me this riddle me this how is it that you get all the way down to kernel level and you still can't block people from cheating um just not being able to detect the cheat i guess like there's a lot of um input modes i know like there's also different

types of cheating this is jumping to a different game but escape from tarkov yeah uh the main cheat or hack or whatever that i know of runs on a different computer. Right. It's not even detectable. Like, it's a completely different computer. I don't know. You may be a VPN. The computer is something.

And what are you going to do? It's a different. It's not even the same computer. Right. So, like, what does it do? I actually don't know much about Escape from Tarkov at all. Escape from Tarkov. Well, okay. So Escape from Tarkov. It's an interesting game.

Relatively unique. I like it a lot. But your whole idea is you get dropped into a certain area. Not dropped as in the Battle Royale fly out of a plane thing. But you spawn in a certain area. You want to loot and kill as many people as possible. And then escape. Yeah.

There's an exit somewhere and you have to get to it. Because you generally across the other side of the map and then if you lose your gear it's permanent right that's kind of the idea if you if you spawn in as your like private military contractor you have a little box that you can store a very small amount of certain items in yeah uh but you're like your weapons your your big weapons your armor all that kind of stuff doesn't fit inside of it um so you lose generally all of your things except for your like all that kind of stuff doesn't fit inside of it um so you lose generally all of your things except for your like keys or maps or other small items that you want to save in your in your case but uh so so death is super detriment and people are very careful and

quiet and and methodical in this game sure and this cheat thing as far as i know makes this you can see where people are aiming and you can see them through walls across the map wow okay i mean like death is that bad having that level of cheating is brutal right i don't in my gameplay i don't think i personally ran into it a ton it doesn't really feel like it but there's clips online of people that are like there's clips of people on twitch that will like look away from their monitor because it's on a different computer so it's not on their actual screen so they have to look somewhere else so they'll look somewhere else not there's clearly nothing on their screen and the people watching the stream can hear the audio so they know there's

there's no information coming to them that there's someone there and they're like oh there's there's five people coming this direction like uh it's brutal i don't know there's cheaters in in like every game don't rootkit people's computers right in my opinion all right so back to their rationale they said okay kernel level integrations are typically the most effective in preventing cheating okay and nuvo's integration met our standards for security and privacy. Players were disappointed that Doom 2016 was so delayed in adding anti-cheat technology and then basically went on to say, despite our best intentions, feedback from players made it clear

that we must re-evaluate our approach to anti-cheat integration. In the next patch, we will be removing it, but it will return for players who want to play online and won't be required for a single player so there you go and i think that's pretty much all the most interesting stuff from today oh g2a confirms that stolen game keys are sold on the platform like okay they are yeah it's in tech link today they apparently had to hire uh an independent investigator to you know audit them they were like yeah we want an independent investigation and yeah they found that um about 198 yeah a couple hundred factorial keys were found to have been sold illegitimately on g2a

um out of a list of 321 keys. So 198 doesn't sound like a lot until it's two-thirds of the... Oops. That's brutal. So they paid them out. They paid the Factorio developers out at 10x. 10x the money they lost via chargebacks, whatever that ended up being.

They paid them back roughly 40,000 US dollars. Yeah. Hilarious. Woom Software is apparently the first and only developer to take GTA, G2A up on its limited time offer to conduct these, these investigations. So funny. So it turns out the thing everyone knew is a thing so now we know more yeah

which is great yeah uh speaking of things we know more it's definitely time to know more about what kind of super chats you guys have been sending as usual i will only be doing a few of them i have no idea why you guys even send them because i read like a fraction of them and this is a well-known true this is a well-known behavior actually it's not even loading the tab's not even loading in the youtube dashboard because it's so great it's so great and i love it so much let's see if they're even still there if i refresh the page that would be a challenge i mean one solution to this problem would be to just read them right away but we all know that's not gonna happen Alright, there we go. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen

Roberts back the Corsair 2080 water block leakage controversy any comments I actually made all the comments that I had back when I did my initial coverage of that block when they launched it at like CES or Computex or something and When I did my initial build with their Hydro X, I pointed out the issue to them like a year ago. And as far as I can tell, they have actually reinforced it and made it better than it was since then. But yeah, I, okay, so I have two comments. One comment is i could see how this could have been a problem in a case where a user was not using the product um very carefully and that is something

that is possible like if you've been uh even for an experienced user if you haven't water cooled since gpu blocks had the metal of the cold plate literally come all the way up to where you screw in the fittings like that's how it used to be used to screw into copper or like nickel plated copper on the backside. So you could like really like wrench your tubing on there. If you had a tight fit, like I used to do three eighths inch tubing over half inch fittings so that the inner diameter of the tubing would basically go like straight into the inner diameter of the, of the fitting with like no seam even basically, because it was so tight. There's no way you'd be able to get that on with Corsair's solution

without like cracking it or like breaking it or something. And I'm not saying that Corsair's thing is too weak and it's terrible. I'm just saying that, you know, you can't really like abuse them like that anymore. As long as you're careful and you and you brace it from the other side and you push it on and you lay out your loop correctly so there's not too much strain on it, there's no reason that even that older one should leak. In fact, I am still using that launch Hydro-X water block in my system. I switched from soft tubing to hard line tubing and I had no leaks. You guys saw in that six hour live stream, my system's working just fine. So I see both sides. I see how it could be a problem if you weren't careful, but I also see how Corsair says that, well, this is a perfectly good product and it's fine. That's kind of my take on it. So I did point out that I saw the potential for problems,

but I have not had personally any issues with it. that I saw the potential for problems, but I have not had personally any issues with it. No, I don't think I mentioned how flimsy it was in a video last week. Oh, did I? Did I actually mention it in the six hour stream? I might've. I might've actually mentioned that.

Yeah, no. So this is something I've been aware of for a long time. I didn't know that it was blown up until I saw Jay's video show up in my thing. And I was like, sorry, what is this? All right, who else we got? Decoy for fun says there's a cursor on luke's head there is not yeah i think for a pretty significant amount of the show i don't know what you're talking about what cursor on his head remember because uh oh i see i see Because, oh, I see, I see.

Is there any more fun ways that I can? Sorry about that, guys. It's because the video chat is behind my window that has my browser that I'm using to check the doc. What else we got here? Decoy for Fun says, I make poor financial decisions. You sure do. Thanks for the 10 bucks. Lucky Falcor says, with so many HDR monitors, where would you suggest that someone start

researching? Trying to find a mid-range full array HDR for games like Tomb Raider. Well, you're not going to get full array local dimming on a mid-range monitor. I'll tell you that much. So you can, that's a good start to your research. For me, if I was going to spend the extra for the HDR experience, I don't know that I would bother until I'm going all the way to HDR 1000 certification. Just get the VESA HDR 1000 certification.

It's not mid-range. And if you can't afford that right now, wait. Just wait, because HDR 600, 400, they're not as good. And a good quality SDR monitor is still a great gaming experience. So just hold off. There's no shame in just waiting until, you know, because at some point it'll happen, right?

Your savings and the declining price of technology will intersect. And that's when you buy, right? Tom again says, will you tell us now about the cable that you use to connect your desk to your rig? No. Although I did see, I think either from you or someone else, I did see a comment about this recently. And I sent a follow-up to the people who can tell me I'm allowed to tell you about it to ask when I can tell you. Sweet. England says, first time watching a WAN show. How's your day going?

Not too shabby. Not too shabby. Today was good. Yesterday and Wednesday, kind of frustrating. Very rough days, but today was good. Thomasomas foster says i bet you don't have anyone there that can do cobalt coating no i don't think we do you want to you said yesterday wednesday was something whatever frustrating thing you want to hear something frustrating that happens hit me can i find this here it is okay i was trying to work on something in paypal oh yeah and i i load up the page right i log in with my login everything's working great i load up the page it says feature not available in bold text and then below that it says sorry this feature is currently unavailable we apologize for any inconvenience that to me sounds like something's just down, right?

Right. Check back later, right? Like that's not, that's not, okay. So I checked back later. Yeah. Same message. So now I'm like, well, what the heck? Yvonne figures out, maybe it's just not like a permission that's enabled on that account.

You gotta be kidding me. She nailed it immediately. How is that the message that you send when it's not a feature that you're allowed to access? This feature is currently unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience. What? Bad error messages are the worst

and there's just no excuse for it. Like why is it that when windows spits out an error message it's like some coded number series like like combination of numbers and letters when you look it up when you go google it and it's just like here it is in plain simple english well why didn't you just put that there then how hard is that i can understand some things like your your your catch is it like it catches something incorrectly or whatever because it's you're not properly testing for every but this is like the account didn't have permission that's like the most straightforward thing yeah there's there's no misinterpreting that that's not some like crazy weird error

that it didn't catch properly. Unreal. Oh my God. So annoying. Oh yeah. I never ended up talking about all the stupid drama around the SSD thing. Did I talk about that on the live show? Nope. Oh, okay.

In other super chats, HR Penguin says, do you think Intel will ditch the iSeries branding if and when they have a new amd killer architecture i actually do i i think that it's time for a rebrand and the fact that they're sticking with this goofy 10 900k nonsense means that maybe they just don't want to rebrand now and have the new branding associated with this 14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus nonsense because we saw the same thing when they released their last AMD killer, the Core 2 Duo.

When they launched Conroe, it was a new brand, a new Intel. They relegated Pentium to the very, very low end where it actually still exists. And I think the time is right. Time's right. It's been 14 years or whatever since conroe uh what else we got uh darren says hi lie ness love what you do keep it up thank you very much also shave the beard okay well you're gonna have an opportunity to vote with your wallet on that because we have some shirts coming. And whichever design sells the most shirts is going to dictate my facial hair for the rest of the year. Wow.

Yep. So there's going to be a bearded. I'm at the point now where I can kind of announce this. You know what? I have samples. Do you want to do a couple? Or wait, do you even have the super chats open? No, I don't think I can.

Oh, bloody hell. Okay. I don't know whatever i'll maybe i'll go get it later i might forget uh alana says received our refund from ltx rip decided to give it back buying from lt store.com and donating the rest here keep making the amazing content see you at ltx 2021 i will see you there, Alana. Oh man. I am so bummed about that. Like that sucks. Yep. I, I actually love LTX. It's exhausting. Like it's the most tiring two days of my year by far, like far and away exhausting. Like it's hard to be on like that. And it's like physically draining as well, because I'll go and do things like get in like uh you know like battles with people on the the big inflatable like you know bouncy castle thing and stuff like it's exhausting but it's so much fun yeah i don't know um yeah no i i agree

i'm sure your your ltx experience is much more draining than mine you have obviously far more going on uh but when i did that and then that was on at the beginning of the whole week of all the people from flowplane being there yeah that was one that was one heck of a sleep everybody leaves and i just crashed hard uh david flesher says loved the oled video more sciencey than usual have you thought of doing educational videos about the science behind some tech by interviewing industry pros yeah i mean that was something that james pushed through he really wanted to do that and i thought it was really cool i thought the way that it was executed was outstanding i sent out a little memo to everyone, just like CEO things, right?

Like, hey, you just want to say, you know, great job. It all came together so well. You know, I feel like such a nerd sometimes. But yeah, no, I thought I thought he did a great job. I think there's a ton of opportunity for us to take on more stuff like that. Because the thing is, like, honestly, it's when you find the right expert, like there's a handful of people that we work with that are just freaking awesome. Um, like there's this one guy from, um, oh yeah, his name's Tyler,

Tyler from portrait, man. He's just awesome because he's the kind of guy where, yeah, he works for like a company whose job it is to sell something or whatever. And I think there's an inherent amount of distrust that people have from that, but he is a no BS character. He will just give it to us straight. He knows his stuff so well. Absolutely love it. And when you find people like that and you just go, yeah, hey, you know, educate me, you know, brain dump me. Tyler has given me more headaches than probably almost any other industry insider that I know, but in a good way, just because he dumped too much knowledge into my brain in too short a period of time. He's amazing. And so when you find those people, you know, there's another guy, Joel, who just knows everything about Wi-Fi. Like it's unbelievable the amount of knowledge he can just drop on you

in an hour long phone call. It's so easy to get in and do these more science-y things, and we can focus our energy on taking that high-level stuff, getting the headache, translating it to a way that won't give people a headache, and then making it flow really well and doing our video magic with it. That's when, honestly, Linus Media Group is at its best. Tom Cigar says, Garth Brooks, please please my family and i need closure where did you bury mother did you really spend ten dollars to send me that super chat

like are you even talking about anything what are you talking about i have no idea is that song lyrics i mean it could be do you look like no not even remotely i don't know what's going on here i didn't know what garth brooks looks like but you do not these are not similar wow okay pink sniper 28 says in a previous one, you mentioned that a YouTube premium user compared to an AdSense user added more to the bottom line. How does that compare to someone who checks out the link below? So usually the link below is to a sponsor and we're getting like a fixed rate for that depending.

Some of ours are affiliate based. Some of them are fixed rate based. And as for how it compares, it really depends on the rates for for that particular engagement. I can tell you that the only thing that really drives rates up is more people actually engaging with that sponsor. So like buying products from them, if they see better ROI, then when we turn around and we go, hey, by the way, our viewerships double what it was last time we did a rate negotiation, you're gonna have to pay more, they're more likely to say uh okay yes we should probably stick with you guys versus now peace see ya so it really depends alex says this

money my previous super chats my floatplane sub and my occasional youtube premium watch time i consider all contributions to the luke and linus star wars the last jedi commentary track recording oh do you want to do it i would 100 do that do you want to do it let's do it we should do all of them let's do it i'm super down so we just we just throw on we just throw on the movie we just throw on a mic totally i think what we kind of have to do we'd have to have kind of a a bit of a complicated audio setup for it because i wouldn't want the actual movies audio on it because then you know copyright issues and all that so we'd have to be wearing headphones we'd have to have each other's voices piped through the headphones so we're both monitoring on the same like interface and then we'd have to have the movie audio coming through as well and then our microphones would have to be

a clean recording feed that doesn't contain it. We both just wear closed back headphones or something. We could totally do it. Absolutely. I would love to. I'm into it. Okay.

You know what, Alex? Um, we'll do it. We'll do it. Here's the commitment. We'll do it. I'm not going to say we're going to do it right away.

No, I have. Yeah. I don't, I don't even have closed back headphones, so we can't do it like immediately. Yeah, we got this

what i was gonna say are we doing all of them man i don't know if i would have as much to say about all of them i think i i i'm down for whatever i definitely have unique comments for each one i'm gonna commit to Last Jedi Okay Or Rise of Skywalker Whatever the stupid last one is called Yeah sorry

The comment here is Last Jedi That's why I had it on my brain I'm sure you don't mean Last Jedi I'm sure you mean Rise of Skywalker Right? I'm sure that's what you mean Oh man so bad Anyway

I saw a comment sort of criticizing me as having all bad takes on Star Wars. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, there's some, you know, lore things that I'll get wrong or whatever, but I'm coming at it. This might just be me wanting to like watch Star Wars and me enjoying our our star wars

conversations especially after the last movie yeah but i kind of just want to do all the movies you know what not even the most recent three like i mean all of them let's just do it i'm down screw it let's do it it sounds really enjoyable like i'm totally in but my critiques are coming at it from a just storytelling basics like storytelling 101 sort of perspective that's where they get stuff wrong it's bad storytelling and that whole thing last week where we talked about where um i forget what his name is but he basically came out and said like who cares what's canon not canon it's all fake anyway that's a bad attitude that turns into bad storytelling that's all that's all there is to it that's an attitude that i think a decent amount of the audience has sheltered themselves in including myself to like be more

okay with still being fans that's not a approach that you want the creators behind it to be taken of course not promoting yeah uh shadow 83xx1 linus looking to upgrade my seven-year-old pc end of this year or sometime next year any news on 10 nanometer intel or rtx uh 3000 series man i wouldn't wait for 10 nanometer Intel at this point. I'm not saying it's not coming. I don't know when it's coming. I'm just saying, you know, it's one of those don't hold your breath things, you know. As for RTX 3000 series, I mean, NVIDIA just launched an Ampere or just announced an Ampere architecture data center GPU I would I would hazard a guess that the desktop stuff might not be that far

behind and I'd say that would be a pretty sick time to to upgrade it's a great time to be a PC gamer right now honestly one last super chat SS j4 Evo something something thanks for the LTX refund last year I was the next person in line to see you when you walked away i'm sorry i'm sorry i really just like had to go places sometimes i really do do my best um i i will see you next year i'll see you next year all right assuming that you know new normal allows us to even have conventions like man hearing new normal freaks me out a little bit did you ever watch mystery science theater i'm totally i'm still stuck on this because i'm actually pretty excited you ever watched mystery science theater 3000 i didn't i'm

sorry i didn't oh they they would watch like these old like terrible but great movies yeah yeah and they would comment on them uh i haven't watched it in forever, but it feels like we're doing like mystery tech theater. Yeah. 3,000. I'm down. I'm down. It'll have to be like float plane exclusive.

So guys, make sure you're on float plane. Also just to, you know, make sure the float plane team has more food to eat and all that good stuff. Got to go subscribe on float plane. Not just Linus Tech Tips. I don't even care about that.

There's a bunch of great stuff. Do you have any float plane news that you want to talk about? It's sort of care about that. There's a bunch of great stuff. Do you have any Floatplane news that you want to talk about? It's sort of after party now. Show's over. Show's over. No more super chats. What we're internally calling

the blog post feature, which might be a little dated for public naming. Blogging, you say? Oh my. Which essentially means being able to post multiple forms of content,

not just video. Being able to post multiple forms of content, not just video, being able to post pictures and audio and whatnot. That is coming a little bit faster maybe than we had hoped, but I have no date for anyone. You learned your lesson there. Yes, I did. It's coming to pre-prodding a little bit faster than we had maybe originally expected. That's all the news I have for it.

But that's going to be a very exciting update. Cool. All right. Are there going to be any new creators for us to announce soon? Once the blog post feature comes in, I suspect so, yes. Okay, cool. All right.

So thanks so much for tuning in this week. Hope you guys enjoyed the show. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. No, hopefully not the same time earlier oops I'm so hungry dude Just need to eat I don't even know if there's any food at my house, though. My wife's not here, so that's usually a solid indicator that there is no food at my house.

Or at least not like food that's ready to be eaten. Alright, I'm ending the YouTube.