The WAN Show - An Hour of Nonsense - WAN Show Feb 8, 2019

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And we're live? Yay! Yay! Hello, my friends. It's WAN Show time again. That is to say it was WAN Show time 22 minutes ago. But in fairness to us, this is actually the closest we've been to on time in about a month. Nice.

Yeah. I love how the time was 4.30, so we always went live at 5. Yeah. Now the time's still technically 4.30, but we kept on hitting 5, so then we just started acting like it was 5. Well, Colton went rogue. That's what actually happened. Do you know this part of the story?

He changed the thumbnail thing, right? He did. He changed it, and he changed the description so that he basically unilaterally, without any prior authorization from management, changed the wan show to a five o'clock start which means then he made a mistake he told me yeah he told me it started at five now and i was like oh okay so i'm gonna head down there at five and then so today

i had a a new laptop so that i won't accidentally leak any information on the show anymore. So I had a new laptop to set up, and then I had to do the thumbnail, and then this computer got signed out of a bunch of stuff, and then here we are, 22 minutes later, and it's time for us to be honest with you guys. Because we've actually gotten a lot of really negative and or angry feedback over the last few weeks about the state of our titles and thumbnails for the WAMP show. You know, people have said, hey, you guys put this topic in the title and you barely talked about it. Now, in fairness to us, that used to happen a lot. Even back when we did talk about tech news on the show. There was times where we literally would not talk about it.

Or we would completely forget about it. But people are particularly upset because over the last month or two, WAN Show has gotten to the point where we talk very little about any tech news, regardless of whether it's in the title of the video or not. So today, we're leveling with you guys. The show is just going to be an hour of us BSing with each other, and we might talk about some tech news. We do have some topics for you guys.

The NYPD is apparently mad at Google. There's been a crackdown on facial recognition in Australian schools. The FBI conducted a sting operation on Huawei at CES. This is hilarious, and I'd actually really like to talk about that one. There's a rumor of an upcoming GTX 1660 TI, whatever the crap that would be. Okay, so you can overclock your switch, apparently.

That's the thing, if you're into that sort of thing. That seems like a good idea. So that was a list of topics that we may or may not talk about. And intermixed with all that might be discussion of Luke's beard, which really hasn't improved since last week and- I gotta deal with it.

You what, sorry? I gotta deal with it. Yeah, you do. Okay, you know what, let's roll the intro. Let's roll the intro. Cause we forgot to roll the intro at one point and people were mad about that too. Why? because we forgot to roll the intro at one point and people were mad about that too why what now too says luke's beard oh no cammy ibox says luke's beard looking mighty fine

heck yeah it's not though yeah no i think they're not really looking at it that closely. So I think I'm going to give it one kind of chance, which is where I'm going to try to clean it up now. Okay, and what exactly is your plan to clean it up? Because right now you've got kind of a lopsided thing going on here. Yeah, it's really hard to shape it. Right. So I'm gonna try to like cut it into shape, which probably isn't gonna work. Okay, because you know that the entire comment section of I think it was last week's WAN show was basically beard advice for you, right? No.

You gotta comb it like this way and then you gotta do that, you gotta use like a conditioner, you gotta... It's too much work. Yeah, there was like a bunch of product recommendations for stuff you I was I was talking to they just don't know you very well Anything more complicated than like a bar of soap doesn't touch this man He's a simple man, I just, yeah, I don't know. People have asked me about my... Any kind of soap that don't come in a bar.

It's too fancy. Okay. Do you use conditioner? No. No. I have. Do you? Hold on.

On accident, I thought it was shampoo. Do you use shampoo? Yeah. Really? I just use shampoo for my whole body. I'm going to... Because then you just have one bottle. Or body wash for everything, including hair.

Is this a TMI moment about how much hair you have or is it more just your belief that soap is soap and therefore therefore whatever has the highest volume of soap per dollar is therefore superior Costco

you buy like six at a time you don't go back for a year I have to confess I am just as bad as you, but the other way. So for me, it's bar soap. I don't own shampoo. The shampoo bottle is for my wife. I don't touch it. And I just use the bar soap.

You bar soap your hair? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that was like... No, yeah, I guess. Is soap not soap? Yeah. And it's not like I keep my hair for very long. Yeah.

Like I cut it before it gets long enough that, so, I mean, it's a funny thing. So I ran into trouble with my kids because my daughters in particular, well, they have longer hair than me. And so when they're babies, you just use like this infant um like general wash yeah and you know they have like they have really short hair and they have really delicate skin and blah blah blah so you just use this like infant wash sure and you use it all over anyway just out of not feeling like searching for another product if it's good enough for an infant it's good enough for a three or four year old um i just kept using it on them. And my eldest daughter's hair got to the point where it was just like straw coming out of her head. And I was like, light bulb moment.

Conditioner, right. I should probably use that. I will like, there was one time I accidentally grabbed a bottle of conditioner and put it in my gym bag. Okay. And then went to go have a shower at the gym. And you conditioned your whole body? How was that? It was so weird.

Because it's, like, really, like, I don't use conditioner, so I don't know. But it's, like, oily, isn't it? It's more oily. Kind of slippery, sure. Yeah. So then I, like, I didn't look at the bottle. And I, like, squished a bunch into my hand and put it in my hair and then tried to transfer around and was like, what is happening?

In your defense, they look very similar in a lot of cases. Yeah, and I was highly, highly confused. But yeah, people have asked me many, many times what I do to my hair. I'm like, yeah, it's water in the shower. And then I go, flop, and then I leave the house. in the shower and then I go, flop, and then I leave the house. So if it can't be that easy,

I probably shouldn't do it, which is why I'm probably going to trim the beard back down. Yeah, so one of the reasons that I brought this up is another YouTuber who I believe you're familiar with, Phil DeFranco, launched a hair product. What? Yeah. So I was just going to say, like, if we ever get to that point, you'll know that we either had outside consultation

or you just shouldn't buy it. It's just like, it's in like the shape of a of a shampoo bottle but it's just like three bars of soap the entire sales pitch would be like it's cheap yeah you just buy it it's really affordable your supply at a time yeah yeah it's green trust us it's not irish spring um yeah i don't know so that's okay i have a i have a funny story yeah you know you've complained mildly about my shoes i've had the same pair of shoes yeah i have complained about your shoes did you get new shoes nope yeah i was gonna say that's what the toe is doing on one of them but this isn This isn't... Wait, sorry, I was gonna like this story? No. Oh, I see.

It's just a story. Okay. Um... Let me guess. I need new shoes now. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

I'd like to... I'd like to guess what happened here. So for reference, it's supposed to... It's supposed to go like that. I think they know what the shoe is supposed to... I'm just making sure. I think everyone knows that this is not what a shoe is supposed to be. I'm just making sure.

I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. so for reference it's it's supposed to it's supposed to i think they know what the shoe is supposed to i think everyone knows that this is not what a shoe is supposed to look like i need i need i gotta i gotta guess i gotta guess okay does it involve like a campfire no actually but that makes a lot of sense, but no. No, okay, hold on. I see where that was, yeah, well-informed, though.

And this is, like... Oh, it's... How are you wearing this today? It's that shape now. I don't have other, like... These are really light. Yeah, I know, they're great. This is why I have a really hard time replacing them.

The back is destroyed. Oh, yeah. Like, I need new shoes. Now I especially need new shoes. Yeah, and, like, this isn't quite a hole, but it's definitely all the way through, like, the first layer here. Yeah. Oh, there's many, many holes.

Oh, my goodness. How could... The toe is specifically what I'm talking about. Oh, okay. I thought you were going to tell me. No. There's also a huge groove that's on the bottom that's new now. Oh, is that not supposed to be...

Is it heat-related, though? Uh, yeah, there was heat. There was heat. There was heat. There was technically heat. Okay. There was also a lot of movement. A lot of...

Wait. Were you, like, being dragged behind something? Can I give you a pretty powerful hint? Fine. I wasn't wearing them. They got stuck in something and... Yes. Curled up.

Yeah. And it was, there was heat involved. Yeah. You're getting really close. There's like a molded thing. Did you accidentally put them in the dryer? Yes. I've never...

On like high heat. So, okay, the actual problem is that it jammed itself between the sidewall and the like the three arms that are in the, I don side wall and the, like, the three arms that are in the... I don't know what they're called. The three panels that are in the dryer. And it was, like, stuck in there. So it grinded itself around. That's why there's, like, a groove in the bottom and it's bent over and stuff.

It wasn't, like, high heat. That's from, like, friction molding. Like, it's... The dryer was like, I don't care. You're going around the circle. So, yeah, I'm going to have to finally buy new shoes. I can't believe you're still wearing them today. Like, when did this happen?

Last night. Okay, all right. So this weekend, that's your... That's one of my priorities, is to get new shoes. That's why I said get toe shoes. What are toe... Oh, no. No.

I did. But the problem is, they are also higher maintenance. They're too much. What do you have to maintain about toe shoes? Okay, one, if you don't wash them all the time, like, they stink. Unless you get the socks. If you get the socks if you get the socks the socks are really expensive yeah and they like take a long time to put on I have to get each one of your freaking toes I'm gonna mention the

drawback that you look like an idiot you do okay I'm just checking yeah but I actually really like them a lot I have like Part of my like knee problem Wow, those are horrible This is like what toe shoes look like in the marketing materials What toe shoes look like on your feet They don't look like

No Because they go up higher Those are like Those are weird They're all weird Those are weird. They're all weird. Those are exceptionally weird. Ed's super into them.

Ed likes the toe shoes. I like them. So they help my knees a little bit, I find. A little bit. Because I don't know if you remember, I used to run barefoot all the time. Yeah, convincing you to put on any amount of clothing at work was kind of a challenge. But yeah, okay. fair, different story. But yeah, I used to run barefoot all the time. So that made it so I could run barefoot

with a little bit of protection because I stepped on something. That was the idea. So yeah, I've also met people that not only thought they looked stupid, but were like personally offended by them. Personally offended? Because they, like, really, really, really hated feet.

Okay. And because they could, like, see the separation of the toes, it, like, looked more like an actual foot, and it, like, disgusted them. How do people like this shower? How do you look at your own? Yeah. Yeah, like, how do you... I didn't address it at the time, but I was like, that legitimately has to be a little difficult. How do people like this shower? How do you look at your own? Yeah. Yeah. Like, how do you? I didn't address it at the time, but I was like, that legitimately has to be a little difficult.

Yeah. I don't know. All right. I don't know. Well, other than that, how's your week this week? It's been pretty good, actually. It doesn't seem like yours was, I'm assuming assuming by the exasperated sigh i don't i don't remember i actually don't remember much from this week so we uh we did a bunch of videos

obviously yeah um some of the ones we did are actually pretty cool i don't have my regular laptop so unfortunately i can't i can't see my list of them but um oh what was the one that we did in my office it was cool oh oh i started working on one that we did in my office? It was cool. Oh, oh, I started working on one that I'm pretty excited about. So Red and NVIDIA came out and said that they were working together to have RTX cards accelerate. Actually, Adobe was involved as well.

So to have RTX cards accelerate working with 8K RED footage in Adobe Premiere in real time. So you can actually use the GPU acceleration on the RTX card specifically to get smooth 8K video playback at 1 to 1 while you're editing. And I thought that was really cool. So we're actually gonna be doing a piece fairly soon on what exactly that looks like. And over the course of a couple of days, I finally got my test bench working, which involved three CPUs, two motherboards,

three sets of RAM, two graphics cards. I don't know what its deal was, but I think a CPU managed to just die okay it was one that had been previously deleted and it had been sitting in storage for a while okay so i actually wonder if the liquid metal seeped out and then is contacting something inside right now like honestly anyway we've got a piece coming on that but i want to talk a little bit about liquid metal actually because we've had um there was a post it was either on the forum or i saw it on uh someone tagged me on twitter um where they were talking about an issue they were having with their laptop

that they had liquid metal so not delidded in this case because laptop cpus still have bare dies but they had liquid metal did i think it was like six months or a year prior or something like that They suddenly had issues with it. They took the thing apart Removed all the liquid metal that was on it put regular thermal compound on it fired it up and it booted up again And I just want to kind of like address this again because even though I feel like we made it really clear In the videos that we did at the time because even though I feel like we made it really clear in the videos that we did at the time, people seem to be still running around

and putting liquid metal on their consumer electronics, be they phones or laptops or whatever else. We said in the videos, and I wanna say it again, we don't recommend that. It's actually a pretty bad idea because anything that's going to be stored in a vertical orientation especially anything that's going to be stored in a vertical orientation when it will be warm runs the very real risk of having the liquid metal seep out and make its way onto other

things because it doesn't necessarily behave like water would where it has a lot of surface tension for example where even if it was a liquid like it'd be unlikely to to just kind of ooze out or crawl over things liquid metal is nasty freakin stuff and so like putting it on something like a phone is basically asking for your phone to die. Yeah. So that's what I have to say about that. Oh, we also did, um,

this was, this was great, I guess. We'll see how, how people like it. Um, we also did a video where I read mean comments for the first time. That's,

do you, okay, do you like respond to them? Uh, some of them I felt like I kind of had to they were 10 out of 10 very mean ah I put James in charge of it so he picked them he he hand

picked the meanest comments that he could find were they like personally offensive or were they like very personal they went after everything from my voice to my looks to my um mannerisms to my... To your mannerisms.

Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I haven't seen one of those. Oh, you may enjoy the video. You may enjoy the video. I don't think I will. Like, this isn't...

You've heard me say this since the start of us working together, so you know this. But I've never seen those things. Right. Like, people have complained about your voice. And didn't you say, like, someone hated editing your videos even? Yeah, there's actually a super chat right now about my voice being annoying.

That's what made me think of it, actually. I've never once understood that. I don't know. I find it annoying. I know, but I don't. So I think the thing you're remembering is me telling you that I find it annoying. And that's why it's so hard for me to edit anything that I host.

Maybe. Yeah. Because I remember we were like in the office at NCX talking about it and be like, I don't know what you're talking about. It's fine. I don't find it as bad now. And maybe it's just because I've also gotten more used to it. Okay.

Or maybe it's because my manner of presenting is better. Is it possible your voice is also just naturally deeper? We have better microphones. And better microphones. That's probably a significant part of it, is we have across the board better microphones for everything we do. Honestly, one of the biggest upgrades that we made in the last little while, I realized I have to take this off.

I always wear this microphone home. It drives me nuts. I'll get in my car, and that's when I'll realize, because sitting down with it is kind of uncomfortable, and I'll be like, oh, crap. I'm wearing the bloody microphone again. Or you have the clicker. Or you...

No, I don't have the prompter remote in my pocket. That would have been pretty funny. It's really annoying, because it wears it out, and it's already... I've had to kind of like reinforce this thing up here because this is like is that your hot drink this is a fiber yeah yeah that's my heat shrinking job it's really bad because I used like this really stiff heat shrink that doesn't really fix the problem because if you're trying to implement a strain relief and you just move the strain relief to somewhere else.

Yeah, you move the point of strain somewhere else. Then you're just prolonging the inevitable. You're not actually preventing it from being damaged. So what I really need is I want to get like a bunch of those, you know, those really little springs like they have on pens. Yeah. So I want a bunch of those that are just the right size for our cables. And then I want some nice flexible heat shrink. Doesn't Moss do that?

That would do a pretty good job. I'm not trying to like plug our own sponsor, but I think Moss does. There's a few different companies that have done stuff like that. Unfortunately, you don't get to pick the cable for like a Sanken microphone like this. Anyway, so the thing that bothers me

is that I'm unnecessarily damaging it, and this is like $2,500 worth of audio gear, but I don't regret it at all because this has been one of the best upgrades that we've made. Sound is super important. Yeah. It's actually really, really important.

And we still don't always get it very right, but at least, especially on my show. But at least, generally speaking on the videos now, we get it more right than we used to. A lot of people, you know, there were a lot of comments on the 10 years of LTT video. Did you watch it by any chance? I did.

You did? Yeah. There were a lot of comments on it. I want your thoughts in a moment, but there were a lot of comments on it that people were like, you know, the reason people are hearkening back to the old days isn't because of the production values in fact it's because the content was better and i'm like okay okay i i see your point but one thing

that i wish we had found um as we'd gone back and looked for examples of production gear upgrades was the videos that I would personally stitch together and forget to put the audio in both channels because a lot of the time I'd be doing it on speakers and I wouldn't realize that you, you, you just took all the blame for a problem that every single person did at that point in time. So thanks Mr.

Boss, but I did it too. and it happened from other people that were editing videos at the time as well. It happened a lot on our channel, to the point where it was a consistent complaint in the comment section. People were like, how are you guys still doing this? Like, years later, how is this still a problem?

Because there was so many videos where audio was only in one channel. That is absolutely a thing. And there was there was lots of other problems as well so to be clear we're not saying like production values are the be-all and end-all to better content i'm just saying that they were when i was saying it was hard for me to go back and watch that stuff i meant it was so bad in ways that were entirely preventable. There's, I think,

I think there is some justifications to the comments as well, though. Not, I don't necessarily think the content was better. I think that's a overgeneralization and possibly a misdirection of them assuming something because they don't necessarily fully understand the problem. I'm not sure, I'm just saying. It happens a lot.

There was a comment earlier about people saying something about something and it was like knowing from the inside I'm like, okay that isn't actually the problem but I see why you would think that. Right. That makes sense but that isn't really what's going on because what I'm gonna say here is we were quite campy back then. Yes. And it might have felt a little, it might have, I don't know, it might have felt a little it might have I don't know it might have felt a little bit more personal and campy and more like just friends making videos yeah and it relates to a tweet I made relatively recently where like everything will change over time like the original Assassin's Creed games

are intensely different than the new ones the original battlefield games are intensely different than the new ones. Yes. And they will lose sometimes what the original identity was. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fair. And you'll claim a new identity. We used to do unboxing videos in front of NCAX. Yes. It's changed a bit. Yes.

The content is drastically different. I think that particular component is for the better. Sure. But it's different. But some people might not agree. And they might have glommed onto that, and it could be a nostalgia thing, where if they actually watched,

if you actually made those videos now in that level of quality, they'd probably be like, bleh. About those things? I mean, that's something that I think a lot. Two motherboards and power splat. That's something that I think a lot of people forget, or don't think about. Is that maybe their own tastes have also changed.

Yeah. Maybe if we actually started making videos unboxing power supplies again, they would find themselves also very bored by it. In the same way that I got to the point where we would sit down in the garage with like a pile of stuff to unbox that's often how the preparation started yeah and i'd be like oh it's another power supply hold on give me like a couple minutes what am i gonna say about this what could i possibly say there was there was times where we had to do like pep talks i'm not even it happened i don't know if you remember but like there was there was times where we had to do like pep talks i'm not even it happened

i don't know if you remember but like there was there was times where we had to do sort of pep talks or like you would try to like get amped up before you started the video because it's like holy crap this is boring another motherboard and we had to we had to shift from the products that we were getting were interesting enough to drive the content to we had to make them interesting enough. And that was a big shift. And that's something that the industry did. And we had to react to it or we wouldn't have kept improving. So like there's things that had to change because the industry changed. There's things that should have changed because their production quality things. There's things that change because the company's way bigger now. There has been a lot of change. so I think it's not completely unjustified

for someone to say, like, yeah, it's changed. But I think it's objectively better. So what did you think of the video? I liked it. Did you get the nostalgia feels? Yeah. I think, like, there's, I have to, like, I look at it, and for me,

like, certain sections are more important. Sure. Or, like, I look at it and for me, like certain sections are more important. Sure. Or like, for instance, I wasn't in the last chunk, which makes sense, cause I left for float plane. So like I cared more about other parts or whatever. Right. But like the video was really good. Cool.

Yeah. So you want to know something interesting. I didn't write it. Really? Huh. That kind of makes sense, actually. Earlier this week was actually the two-year anniversary of the writing staff. That's cool.

And I mean the bulk of it. So Anthony, Alex, and James. Now, Jake worked here before that, but wasn't a full-time writer. And then John, obviously, has worked here for much longer than that. But he is working almost exclusively on TechWiki and TechLinked. So the actual, like, the LTT writing staff. The Benchden crew, yeah. Two years now.

And that video was a moment for me. Because it used to be that people would often comment on the videos. That was honestly a big difference change in production value that we didn't address in that video because it wasn't really gear related. But that was one of the biggest changes for me as a content creator. And at the time, especially in the first few months, people would say in the comments like this

wasn't written by linus this wasn't written by linus it sucks and i was even then i was still reviewing the scripts and i was going through and i was making changes but um i've gone through sort of periods of greater or lesser interference in the work that they hand into me. And I've also gotten better at copy editing someone else's work over the last couple of years. So I've gotten better at my job. But that script was really a fun one for me because it showed, it revealed to the extent to which they have gotten better at their jobs. Yeah.

That's kind of a cool, like, wasn't necessarily included in the video, but was literally a core component of the video. Like, it hearkens to them regardless. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And it's not just James. Was it James that wrote it? It was James that wrote it.

But those guys really have started to think about how to tackle a project in a way that makes them less like benchmarkers and writers and more like content creators over the last couple of years. So I shot a video with Alex today on the Corsair One. And there were a couple of things that he did differently in the video than, you know, back when he had started. And the scripts I would get from them were so like they were cookie cutter. They were rudimentary. So there's this flow to it where it refers sort of back and forward to itself as you go through along a couple of different threads. It's really it's the kind of thing that you wouldn't think about unless you're a gigantic nerd and you're like reading the script and going through it with the writer. But it adds a level of dynamism to the video that otherwise wouldn't be there. And I find that stuff really helps to make it feel like a story.

Yes. Which really, really engages the viewer. The story of the product is far more interesting than just the speeds and feeds. Yeah, absolutely. Sort of this black box. And then the other thing was he actually thought about what we could do production-wise to make it look and feel a little different than just another system review. And you know what's funny?

He talked, somehow, he talked Brandon into a dual-cam setup. One tripod just aimed at me, wider shot, One tripod just aimed at me, wider shot, and one tripod off to the side with a telephoto lens on it so that we could get close-ups of me interacting with the product at the same time. And when I walked in and saw the setup, I was like, huh. What the heck? That is so similar to that thing that I've been. Now, one key difference is that we aren't trying to do it live to tape,

which means the host is literally switching which source the audience is looking at. Dude, that was dope. I don't know what you're talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about. That was so dope. That was amazing. No, no, no. That was the pinnacle of creation.

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that I would drink the Lambo roast. Apparently it's pretty good. Third-party reviews are in. Cool. Yeah, sweet. So Lambo roast is a specialty-crafted custom roast of coffee blended and designed by Madrina's Coffee and Linus Tech Tips. So we actually had a bunch of coffee lovers here on the team contribute to this.

The African and Latin American beans in this blend give this roast a sweet and chocolatey flavor with a huge bold body and smooth caramel finish. So there you go. Guys, you can check that out at the link in the video description madrinascoffee.com slash Linus. They make it sound like a like a caramel chocolate bar. And of course, guys, you can check out their specialty cold brew coffees in these convenient 15-ounce grab-and-go cans. 40% off at MadrinasCoffee.com slash Linus. What is it? What do you want?

He wants one. Get through. Oh, is he going to go make some? Oh, if he's going to go make it, I'm going to try it. Go make it, Jake. And in other news, oh, they didn't bring anything for you. These are both maple buffalo bacon. That's okay. I'm sorry, Luke. That's okay. I'm the only one who's going to be eating any savage jerky today. That's okay.

Uh, you, you can do the, uh, you can do the talking points if you'd like. There you go. It's right there. So, oh yeah, I can just look at the savage jerky. Actually, no, I'm gonna find my own. Savage jerky is great. Uh, they've been a sponsor for a long time they don't use nitrates or preservatives in their jerky i remember that that's amazing uh and they use the best ingredients with a goal to create a snack that is full of flavor and spice and isn't bad for you and if it's maple buffalo bacon try to keep it away from linus because he will take it uh linus's favorite flavor is maple buffalo bacon it's great, and he clearly can't stop eating it until it's gone. I love it.

My personal favorite is the mojo jalapeno. Grab yourself a bag and maybe some other flavors or try out some of their hot sauces, spice rubs. Hot sauces are really good. Yeah, their hot sauces are very good. That bottle actually, that bottle that I took is super gone. It was gone almost immediately. Anyways, check that out. Use offer code LPT to save 10% on all of their products

and go to lmg.gg slash savagejerky. Follow that link. Easier to get there. Use that code and everything's all good. Boom. I'm so happy right now. I haven't had the maple waffle and bacon in a while. I ate it all and then there wasn't any left.

Did you only get two bags though? Or is that just what's here? I hope there's more. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So our new internet. Our ISP, ITEL, and TELUS, who like owns the actual fiber all over the lower mainland

can't seem to get on the same page about how exactly it's getting from the d mark which is where it comes into off the street which is actually another building in this complex how it's getting from the d mark to our building telus says i'm good thanks telus says that um itel didn't do the right thing you know splicing in three and four whatever they said they'd know what that means and i was like okay and then itel says telus isn't really privy to how their equipment works and has no idea what the hell they're talking about. So right now, I am, as far as I know, supposed to have 10 gigabit internet now, and I don't.

So that's the update on the 10 gig internet, and I am, like, pretty excited. I thought it was 5.5. So it's 5.5 to the general internet. Okay, yeah, but it's 10 gig. But it is actually 10 to everything at Vanix, which includes AWS, Akamai, Google, basically anything that matters.

So effectively, it is 10 gigabit internet. Yeah. And I want it. And that's where I'm at right now. Is there any rough ETA or anything? Soon. Okay. Soon TM.

So you know how it is. Okay, there are a couple of tech topics I actually do want to talk about today. So this is hilarious. This was posted by Daniel Tian on the forum. And the original article here is from Bloomberg. And it's not actually related to a lot of the Huawei stuff that's been in the news lately. Yeah. It's not actually related to a lot of the Huawei stuff that's been in the news lately.

Yeah. But it just kind of is a really interesting look at how Huawei is accused anyway of operating its business. So here's the summary. Adam Khan, the inventor of Mirage Diamond Glass, which is meant to be six times stronger than Gorilla Glass, sent a sample of his product to Huawei, a potential customer. And, you know, it's funny. On the TechLinked episode where we talked about this, some of the people commented under the video,

like, well, you're an idiot if you send a pre-production product to Huawei. Of course, they're're gonna copy it. Well, no, companies like Huawei and Apple and Motorola and Google, well, they partner and they license technologies from partners in order to make a better product. So no, that's actually something that you kind of have to do except that instead of Huawei returning it when they were supposed to and in the condition that it was supposed to be in they sent it back

months later and badly damaged so they had promised to send it back within 60 days and to limit and their tests to any that wouldn't cause it damage this is pretty standard in the industry and it's meant to make it harder to reverse engineer intellectual property so the sample was scratched, cracked in half, and had three shards missing when it came back. An FBI gemologist later concluded that Huawei had blasted it with a 100 kilowatt laser that was powerful enough to be used as a weapon. So the FBI is involved at this point. They get Khan and his chief operations officer,

Karl Scherboff, as participants in this investigation of Huawei and they ask them to travel to Las Vegas. So this is Drinksy. Yes, we were there. Like, we were down the street while this sting operation is happening and ask them to conduct a meeting with Huawei representatives.

And they actually secured a room at the LVCC. This is the convention center. Yeah. And bugged it. So the FBI could listen in from another location in the building. So they bought signage to make it look like a Khan had rented out the space So Scherboff was outfitted with surveillance devices and recorded the conversation while a Bloomberg Businessweek reporter watched from a safe distance Wow

So finally this they didn't actually Confess to anything in the meeting, but on January 28th, so this is about three weeks later, the FBI searched the Huawei lab in San Diego where a Kahn's glass had been sent. It was eventually forwarded to China, which they weren't supposed to do. And the FBI raid was a secret, but not to Kahn and Sherboff, who had been receiving regular updates through their lawyer. By then, they had apparently, I didn't actually know this, this i think is a newer development they had succeeded in getting huawei representatives to admit on tape to breaking the contract and to violating u.s export control laws wow so the fbi this is how they figure into all this they met with khan telling him that the bureau was

hoping to educate local startups on cybercrime and security vulnerabilities and to encourage them to come forward with suspicious activity. And they were trying to gather intelligence on Chinese efforts to obtain US technology. I was gonna say it's probably more related to that. Yeah. Yeah, probably like heavily more related to that. It's interesting. It's also interesting that happened in the Convention Center. I know, right? Like, we were, we could have been, like, there

while this was going down. I walked right past where I, those rooms, it's probably just those little rooms in south. Like, I walked right past it. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. That's cool. That's pretty wild. I mean, this is the kind of thing that, like, That's cool. That's pretty wild. I mean, this is the kind of thing that, like...

It's cool that someone is actually, like, standing up to this. Because the thing about a contract is that it's only as powerful as the entity that signed it. Yeah. And as their will to enforce it. Because breaching contracts is absolutely a thing. Okay, I breached a contract once. Probably more than once. Accidentally.

Oh, okay. I thought that was a specific dig. I was gonna be like, oh, did I? No. No. Oh, okay, okay. I thought you meant like there was something with you. No, no, no, no, no. Your demeanor was like.

No, sorry. There's something going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Oh, is this something we should be like talking about? You destroyed me. Yeah, no, no, no. I'm assuming there are contracts that you've broken more than once.

So I breached a contract once with a company called Student Works Painting. Oh, I thought you were going to say like, you get someone who knows coffee things maybe get Alex Alex knows coffee things no can you just ask Alex it'll be easier just ask Alex Jake okay but haven't you like since, since LMG times? Because I thought there was, like, an NVIDIA thing. Oh, okay, like, accidentally publishing a piece of content a little bit earlier. Yes, okay, that's technically breaching a contract. This is why I said probably more than once. Yes, definitely more than once.

Okay. But there was one time in particular that I did it on purpose. Oh. And the reason I did it was because I was going through a period of significant depression. And I believed that it was caused by my job painting houses or running that painting business. I asked them nicely to let me out. And they basically said, you signed a contract. That's it. That's all there is to it,

you have to finish the rest of the summer. But all I really wanted to do was quit and go work at the computer store. And so I worked through it with my wife and we basically went, yep, this is pretty bulletproof. Even had a lawyer look at it, like a free legal counsel through the city or whatever. They were like, yeah, you probably can't not do this

and um finally i was like you know what i'm not gonna go to work anymore and i think that the optics of a student painting company suing a student are probably bad enough that they're probably not going to actually do that because that's a really bad idea. And, um, that's something that makes sense. Yeah. That's something that I have actually sort of relied on at points in my career. Um, I will confess that during secret shopper, we did not fully vet the legality of recording our conversations. Isn't it single party consent in Canada? Well, we did look into it and it was questionable. So single party consent, yes, in Canada, but that doesn't necessarily apply to conversations we're having outside of Canada. It could certainly

be challenged. Oh, I thought it literally did. But... I thought it was where the recording happened. Anyways, yeah. Our belief, or at least my belief, I actually had to fight this battle internally. My belief was that the optics of, you know, someone, let's say someone that ended up not looking that great,

like Origin or iBuyPower or Dell, especially Dell, the optics of someone like Dell suing Linus Tech Tips over exposing their customer service agents outright lying to customers, like, was going to be bad enough. They probably weren't going to do that. So I guess what I'm trying to say is the law is only what someone is willing to enforce. Please don't take this as advice. Yeah, it's not. I am not a lawyer,

and I'm not qualified to provide any kind of legal advice. I just want to make sure we've got that. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I think it's cool that they're getting involved in what would otherwise not be possible, like in something that's happening that's wrong a little startup yeah trying to deal with huawei they wouldn't be able to defend themselves they wouldn't be able to enforce this contract against a gigantic multi-billion dollar multinational

because even if they were going to win it would be very very easy and rather simple for huawei to just be like okay well this is gonna be tied up in like a five-year or longer legal process and we'll just bury you with that. By then they'll have been making insane profits selling this reverse engineered glass already and what do they care? They can literally pay for their involvement in this lawsuit through the money they are stealing from the patent that they violated. Yeah, it happens a lot actually. Yep, yep, yep. So I think that's cool. There's one more news topic that I did want to talk about, but Nick, did you It happens a lot, actually. Yep, yep, yep. So I think that's cool. There's one more news topic that I did want to talk about.

But Nick, did you have something you wanted to jump in with? Oh, I wanted to witness the taste test. Mm. Mm-hmm. Neither of us coffee. How long? 10 seconds. 10 seconds.

You got to push the thing down, and then you're good to go. Well, how does this work? I don't... Okay. We don't... We don't coffee. We don't know. We don't okay. We don't we don't coffee. We don't know

Okay Okay, cool, why do you why do you push down now? What are you doing right now? What is this? We're straining the coffee Okay, you don't drink the go so the the coffee. We're straining the coffee. Getting all the grains out. Yeah. Oh, okay. You're not drinking. Okay, you don't drink the grains. Oh, so the coffee liquid is squishing through that filter thing. So inside is a mix of water and coffee grounds. Okay. And now that it's been sitting, we're just... This must be absolutely painful for people to watch.

Okay. Can they even see it? Is this... Can you see it now? So we're going straight from we don't consume coffee at all, to Jake is just serving us black coffee. Don't pour too much in, cause I want it to cool down a little.

Yeah. I'm gonna want it to cool down a lot, so like give me less than that. Wait, what's fine? That's fine, that's fine. Smells good. There we go. I've always liked the smell of coffee,

but I've never been inclined to drink it. They're very different things. Luke, you've had coffee before. Maybe twice in my whole life. I don't know. Like, is cream or sugar customary? You should not drink it just straight up. I should not drink it straight up. No, you won't like it, but you'll get more of the flavor.

True. You've got to slurp it, too. You've got to... So if I want to... What? What are you even talking about Jake? Cool I mean it's a Madrina's cup That is actually nice and light. This is probably legit for camp. I'm just I'm just gonna try it hold on

We're gonna do a couple of I want to take a really hot Isn't it? I have yeah You mean you have to we have to send you a flight You mean we have to send you a flat? All the bags that are supposed to go to the customers? Send them to me! Okay, there's one more news topic I wanted to do beforehand. We should also probably do a couple super... Oh, wow!

We haven't done an LTX update. Holy crap. This show is never going to end. Is there a blog update? Yeah, tickets... Oh, my gosh! Oh! Oh, holy crap.

Ticket pricing. Ticket pricing! Oh, Jono brought me a better coffee mug. Here's my Gamers Nexus coffee mug. Fantastic. Thank you, Jono. I'll always be shilling for Gamers Nexus. Guys, ticket pricing for LTX is here.

So we'll be using DreamHack's preferred Tixer platform to sell and process tickets this year. They'll be sold in US dollars this time. Sorry, Canada and everywhere else. But to combat the dollar conversion, we have apparently lowered the cost of the admission ticket from what it was last year. So here they are. Saturday pass, 30 bucks.

Sunday pass, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, 30 bucks. Two-day pass, 50 bucks. DreamHack BYOC plus two-day pass, $80. In response to the obvious question, no, you cannot get BYOC without a full two-day pass. Yeah, but that's... For fairly obvious reasons, I think. That is how that should work.

Just in case anyone wants to complain, that is like legit how that should work. All right, the LTX merch pack is 30 bucks. That includes a lanyard, a t-shirt, and... A pin. And a pin. Blaine that is like legit how that should work. All right. The LTX merch pack is 30 bucks. That includes a lanyard, a t-shirt and, and a pin, uh, like an LTX pin. It'll look a little something like this and an LMG office tour, which is, is that the day before? Yeah. Which is on the Friday. The day before is 50 bucks. Uh, I will be conducting tours all day, I guess. Probably. Pretty much. Yeah. Okay. So surprisingly cheap. Yeah. It's about 15, 20 bucks. I will be conducting tours all day, I guess. Probably. Pretty much. Yeah. Okay. That's surprisingly cheap.

Yeah, it's about 15, 20 bucks. Well, we're going to do groups of 10 or 20 or something like that. So you giving the tour. Yeah, yeah. I'm just going to do that all day. And there might be somebody else giving the tour. Maybe we'll get Dennis to do some tours as well. It really depends on the interest levels. And the reason that we're charging is...

The reason we're charging is to control demand, if you guys honestly want to know why. Because if we made it free, then we'd have literally three plus years ago, we made it free. And we had a lineup around the building and we weren't able to serve everyone.

And people were like upset. I don't even know if we had two million subs at that point. We were significantly smaller. Yeah, we were a fifth of the size we are now. So, sorry. And then VIP, which includes dinner and what else does it include? We were hanging out. We had to hang out.

There's a little party. Yeah, there's like a little party here. Is it here at the office? Yeah. Okay, so you come into the office and there's like a hangout after work. Specific VIP merch. Specific VIP merch. I think they like a hangout after work and specific VIP merch. I think they get a special hoodie. Is that right?

And a different color t-shirt. I think it's made on the land. That's $400. Oh yeah, the land center will be done by then. Heck yeah. That's sick. No, that'll be done, Colton, for sure. Sick.

For sure. Awesome. So here that'll be done, Colton, for sure. Sick. For sure. Awesome. So here's a bunch more information. You guys can check it out on the LTX Expo blog. Oh, right, yeah. Here's what the pin looks like. Here's what the T-shirt and the lanyard look like. All good stuff.

Tickets go on sale 12 p.m. Pacific time, February 22nd. So also something that I wanted to make clear is that these prices are the right now prices. We are going to be selling tickets in waves and prices depending on demand may go up. If you want to come to LTX and the DreamHack land that's going to be there, buy your ticket. Do it fast, because there's a good chance it will cost more. We think there's gonna be very high demand.

We're trying not to be too optimistic, but the number of creators that I've heard back from who have a strong interest in going, including some that are quite big, has been very encouraging. I think that if you're just not that into Linus Media Group, you might still want to be there. So one interesting thing that I'm going to point out,

which is probably going to be a big part of the reason why people are going to buy tickets faster this year, is the first two years, the first year was a pretty cool set of stuff plus you got to hang out with linus media group crew the second year was like there was a ball pit good yeah there was a ball pit um the second year was like more cool stuff and you get to hang out with the linus media group crew oh and some other creators showed up which we didn't necessarily know about until last minute that's really. And then this year is like there's a LAN There's tons of booths the VR section got like multiplied by a billion

Dream hacks there like everything's been scaled up to such a ridiculous degree That no matter what part of it you actually want to go for if you want to go to hang out with LMG people There's gonna be everybody there be there and if you want to go there because the conventions freaking sick Then the conventions freaking sick, then the convention's freaking sick. Which is like, I don't know, that's a really good...

There's actual reasons we made it a two-day event. Yeah. Not just because of the BYOC, but because there's going to be more things to do. There's so much to do. Like, this year's

going to be wild. I'm so excited. All right. I think I've said that enough on the show. Are we doing this? I want to do one more topic. Okay, okay. This though? The rumor. GTX1660 Ti. I think I've said that enough on the show. Are we doing this? I want to do one more topic.

This, though? The rumor, GTX 1660 Ti. So, NVIDIA was kind of mad when the end of our RTX 2060 video, we basically said, well, if you were looking for a value card from NVIDIA for this generation, wait for the rumored upcoming something that will be without RTX. And now, it looks like some of the initial rumors were wrong, in that it's not gonna have as many CUDA cores as the RTX 2060,

so even in conventional games, it should be significantly lower performing. But it does look like there is another card coming, that will be- have the RTX stripped out of it, and might end up being a better value. So it's going to be based on the TU116 GPU with 1536 CUDA cores, 6 gigs of GDDR6 and it will not have RTX. No word yet on Tensor cores. The first listings for MSI and Palette cards have appeared on Russian retail sites and I can talk about this rumor because I don't have any official word from Nvidia other than getting mad at me saying that that was unsubstantiated and you shouldn't trust the rumors and I did they did get

some stuff wrong but it looks like there's no lining the worm the the rumors weren't true at all now here's all the numbers that you saw in the rumors on screen behind me didn't that happen with their last major launch yeah sweet yeah all right whatever man coffee then super chats okay when's the last Didn't that happen with their last major launch? Yeah. Sweet. Yeah. All right. Whatever, man. Coffee then super chats. When's the last time you drank coffee?

Probably close to eight or nine years ago. Okay. I have sipped coffee once in my life for the manly desk management video. And I had to borrow a mug from burkle i think i think nick van burkle made the coffee for me because i had no idea how to make coffee i've been in i've been yeah we used your truck i've been in shots where i'm supposed to drink coffee and i swapped it for water yeah so this is legitimately coffee i forget why i had to i forget why yeah can i can i uh can i angle this enough a little bit whatever there's. There's coffee in there. All right, so I'm gonna try it and Just because I don't like it doesn't mean you guys might not like it. But there you go

That's an important note. Neither of us are coffee drinkers. Neither of us and this is black It's pretty strong I guess that's black I don't drink coffee. Yeah. I don't drink coffee. Yeah, I don't drink coffee either. Wow. It's better than the other one I had. I was just gonna say, it's, but it's not like- Like, it's not that bitter.

Yes, exactly. Okay, I usually get the like, whuh, from coffee. Yeah. That did not give me that. Like, it's, I was expecting it to be like super bitter. And I can taste what they were talking about on the bag We're gonna have not black coffee, maybe we'll do that next week Cuz realistically we're gonna have a madrina spot to do next week anyway

Yeah, like it's way better than like whatever garbage Nick van Berkel made for me Glowing endorsement right there. Even people that don't like coffee are like yeah, it's alright. Better than garbage. Yeah Yeah, I can also taste the undertones that they were going for so that's pretty cool Actually, there's some third-party reviews of it already because the first shipment went out and people seem to think it's pretty good So it's really good, we picked it. Yeah It's like if you drink coffee, it's really good coffee. Yeah. All right a couple super chats Eric says who's gonna do the voiceover for the linus audiobook come on me obviously dennis okay dennis

what's the linus audiobook uh well when i do my book i'm just gonna read it yeah yeah that makes sense so like the funny thing is I think I have I talked to you about how I'm gonna use like more like a podcast subscription monetization model I'm gonna release it

chapter by chapter it's gonna be the most blatant cash grab of all time and then so the so the audio book is just going to be

a podcast that you subscribe per episode you should just uh sign an exclusivity deal with the Epic Games Store. I know, right? You should have your own channel on Flowplane.

Making everyone mad. That's how you should distribute it. Oh, I know, right? The Linus personal. It's just like, yeah, hey, all the whole you know, the whole thing where, you know, Linus Media Group makes revenue and then, you know, takes that and assigns salaries to everyone and, like, everyone kind of wins when the company wins. Yeah, forget that. Nope. This is the Linus personal.

Yup. Well, no, you can still do that split behind the scenes. Ransu, shout out. Zion, shout out to you too, Zion Dials. Oh, Everett says, I'm applying for the grip position, just waiting on permit. So many people applied. Whoa.

Oh, for yours? Yeah. Oh my God. People are so mad about the way that I pronounced rel and Kubernetes, Kubernetes. I said R hell and Kubernetes and kubernetes. Kubernetes. I said R-Hel and Kubernetes. R-Hel. Yeah. I thought you said... No.

He asked you if it was R-H-E-L or R-Hel. Did you screw me? Because people told me it's rel. It's like a silent H. Oh, I've always just gone... I've said the abbreviation. Okay. That's fine.

He yelled to you and he was like, is it R-H-E-L or R-H-E-L? And you said R-H-E-L. I thought I said R-H-E-L. I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Whatever. You read this stuff all the time. I'm not... Yeah, I don't know. Making the R-H-E-Ls something else.

AJ just dropped dots in chat. Nuclear Flame asks if you still play Star Citizen. No. Oof. No. Ouch. Still? When did I?

Well, I mean, you bought it. I bought it. It never released. I didn't play it. Adrian sent a super chat. Please put the Constellation design on a sweatshirt. It's cold where I live, but I love the logo. That's a good idea.

We should totally do that. It works. People love that design. We should do a crew neck sweatshirt. I'd be down for that. Yeah, 100%. Crew neck sweatshirt. Good idea.

Do you have your hoodie? No, I don't have it on me. It's at home. I put it in the wash because one of my kids spat up on it or something. Yeah, I'm sorry. That should be here soon. People are asking. That hoodie's here soon. People are asking. That hoodie's here soon?

Like within a couple months. Oh, oh yeah, a couple months. Yeah, I know, it's really cool. Here, Nick, do you wanna show them what we're talking about? Dennis says, the least QuickBait title ever. Am I in the right place? Did I say R hell? Are you sure?

I didn't, I didn't. I don't remember. Don't worry about it. It's an abbreviation. This hoodie. This hoodie, it's sick. Yeah. See, it got the little TT logo. Got the thing on the arm.

The other one. I'm the Doctor says, Wife doesn't properly appreciate Linus' voice, but the other day I'm watching TechLinked with Riley hosting, and my wife walks in and says, Why does every tech guy have a high-pitched annoying voice? Good gravy. Dang.

Connor says, Hey guys, first WAN show, and it's on my birthday. Thanks for all the content helped me build my first PC That's freaking awesome. I love hearing that from people yeah Shout out to zero hope to see you at LTX by the way AJ pointed out also the float plane team is gonna be at LTX if that's what you're into They will be around too yes they will be around 30 plus people from the companies at ltx yeah yeah so crazy gonna be madness um all right what else we got here luke says jake sim your doctor disrespect joke was perfect i actually i got a lot of like tweets and comments about that that was pretty funny

oh i don't know how to pronounce this name something wang i liquid meddled my 9900k a few months later it seeped out and it fried my motherboard and psu rip dang yeah uh he said what did dr disrespect ever do to anyone and i was like probably disrespected them. Eric says, sorry, didn't mean to imply I didn't want you to do it. I love your sex voice. And sent $69. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Hell yeah. Was that from the stream earlier, maybe? No, I don't think so. All right. Mikkel says, just to say your backdrop every time I watch the land show reminds me of the old Red vs. Blue series. I think it was supposed to be orange. I'm not sure, though.

Is it supposed to be red and blue? I think so. All right. Do you want to announce the new membership perk again? Membership perk? The community post pulls. Oh, yeah. Once a month, you guys will be able...

If you join as a member on YouTube, once a month, you'll be able to pick between the things that we're doing on our Friday livestreams. That is assuming that we are organized enough to make that happen. It's low commitment. That's why we chose it. Josh says, Built my own home server with Dual Xeon's 36 terabytes of RAID 5 storage for Plex and backup,

10 gig internal network and battery backup. Learned lots from your channel. Been here since the beginning. That's freaking awesome. All right. So thanks for tuning in, guys, to the One Hour of BS show. And there might be some tech news. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

One quick thing before we're done. Oh, no, no. no, you're too late. No, I'm just kidding. Someone asked for float plane updates. There is notifications in now. We haven't been broadcasting it like a ton because there's a bunch of improvements coming to notifications.

So there's nicer things will be happening with notifications, but you can get them now. If you go to your settings cogwheel in the bottom corner. Should I do it? Sure. That should be fine okay yeah i mean it should be there we go so settings cogwheel settings not creator cms yeah and then notifications and then you just like click the bell and fill the bell in for the different things that you want do you want push notifications do you want email we should probably eventually have a better explainer for that.

If you want push notifications, your browser is going to ask you like, hey, is this okay? And if you say yes, you'll get them. That's pretty cool. And by the way, our bell like really works. Yeah, it's not the YouTube. Theoretically.

Yeah, there's some stylistic changes coming and there's some improvements for how it looks and feels overall also we don't have a notification sound right now we will eventually get a notification sound but we need like a unique sound and that's not something anyone in either of the companies has really done so it's a new new avenue to go down i've been doing a lot of research on notification sounds Which is a weird thing weird weird thing to research, but I've learned a fair amount. Yeah Hey over here or whatever that super annoying thing was back in the day no mine was I smiley faces. Yeah

Same era definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah But yeah, that's about it say something you remember that oh my god all right see you guys bye I thought it was a camera. Mhm, yeah. It sure does. We actually specifically thought of you when we left the back camera. Mhm. I thought it was a camera spot. I know you did. I thought it was a camera to me.

I know. My brother calls it gear queer.