The WAN Show - An Update On My Fraud - WAN Show April 15, 2022

Episode Date: April 18, 2022

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Just don't cut the feed no matter what happens Test your bleep button And we're live Welcome to the show everyone We have fantastic topics this week Including Linus hopefully staying alive throughout the entire show Linus potentially

Apologizing Or at least clarifying some comments Was I wrong about Elon Musk? Let's talk about that More at 11 I'm definitely going to be talking about the big update on the fraudulent, the wire fraud

that Yvonne and I were victims of. Maybe as part of that I can give you guys some updates on the house and the pool and all of that good stuff because yeah, that was, it was the pool contractor that was ultimately the problem. What else we got today?

Tim Cook hates sideloading, which is basically a continuation of a topic that we've talked about a few times. It's not exactly news, but it's definitely something that's in the news right now. And also, hey, Honda, screw you, man. Yeah. I'm actually so annoyed about this. What is my stream deck doing? how do I show the intro I think you can press it now can I press it hey let's jump right into our first topic it's's story time, ladies and gentlemen. I am ready, now that it is resolved, to give you guys the full update on what happened with the wire fraud.

For those of you who haven't caught either the clip or the original WAN show, basically, Yvonne and I got tricked. I mean, there's really no other way to put it because if we had proper procedures in place but yeah we could have avoided accidentally sending i don't believe i have talked to you guys yet about the amount but it was 90 000 canadian dollars yeah dang had i told you that before yeah i did okay i did tell you that before the show so 90 grand they got us for and you might be thinking linus you know how could you guys be that stupid to wire 90 000 to someone without verifying who they were and the answer is we did not consider you know that you're only as secure as the security of your business associates the weakest link right and so this particular contractor company i'm not gonna i'm not gonna name and shame it's not it's not what i'm about as a general rule when it comes to my

personal dealings and this was personal money, which, if you're familiar with how taxes work, is actually a lot more painful than losing business money. If I lose $90,000 through the business, that's $90,000. If I lose $90,000 personally, that's the $90,000 that remains after I earned about $160,000 and paid a whole bunch of it in taxes to the provincial and federal Canadian governments. So losing $90,000 personally is a lot worse. For our American friends watching, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of around $65,000 to $70,000. So, what happened was their email was compromised to the point where we were exchanging emails back and forth over a span of multiple days. Emails were coming back to us in the style documents on the letterhead because they had been in this company's email system for probably quite some time collecting information about their clients looking at the communication

styles of their different employees and they offered us a deal where if we paid for all the remaining landscaping and pool work up front they would offer, it was either a 10 or a 15% discount. I can't remember exactly. And Yvonne and I were in such a position in the project where we were like, okay, our personal cash flow is actually okay right now. This is all money that we know we've set aside to pay for in the next three to six months anyway we've got it yeah i mean if there's a discount let's do a discount so we figured out the terms of how it was going to work and they had us they had us wire it to them and they had a convincing story for why the wire was going to a bank in toronto which is in canada it's not like they had to send it to a bank in you know

i don't know syria or nigeria or something right like it was going to a canadian bank france so we sent the money and a little while later we got contacted by the contractor who in my opinion um did not do a good enough job of letting us know right away they should have told us immediately because you can typically recall a wire within the first 24 to 36 hours after that whoa does it ever get tougher because if they withdraw that money if their account has it's basically handing people cash yeah it's a wire transfer cash money yeah so once it's moved out of the bank that it was sent to, it's gone. Yes, I'm talking about a scam. I was defrauded for $90,000 Canadian dollars.

Okay. So I am ready to provide an update on what happened. So the first thing that we did, obviously obviously was we got in touch with our bank and our bank basically said like it's it's been like over two days what what do you want us to do we sent the money and we're like what we want you to do is tell us what to do. Yeah. Because I'm sure this isn't the first time it's come up. Yeah. And they said, contact law enforcement.

Now I am generally pretty supportive of law enforcement. I think that there are a lot of bad eggs. I think there are a lot of bad eggs in any profession. You could go to lawyers, teachers, law enforcement, sports coaches, and you could find pedophiles, murderers, monsters. I do think that in positions of power, people have tendencies that might bring out worse aspects of their personality. So I'm not going to say that there is no correlation between people who abuse authority and authoritative figures.

So I will say that much, but by and large, I am, I, I understand that it is a job that actually does need to be done. Anarchy is not better. Yeah. But the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, actually does need to be done. Anarchy is not better. But

the Royal Canadian Mounted Police were utterly fucking useless in this situation. And I get it when you call the cops to your house because your $200 stereo was stolen. There is a certain

degree of what do you want me to do about this it's it's it's literally less than your insurance deductible and the cost of me doing paperwork to report this like i'm sorry this this bad thing happened and that sucks you know i'd love to i can help you commiserate but realistically putting actual law enforcement resources into dealing with this petty crime is probably a bigger waste of taxpayer dollars

than even me standing here and explaining it to you like I understand that perspective even if I'm very frustrated by it and that is a situation that I have in fact been in and yes, Maria Z $200 is a lot of money for most people you're right and it was for me when my car window got smashed and my stereo got taken

but ultimately I also understand the cost of investigating this crime is much greater than than $200 so in the big picture I like kind of get it but we are talking about $90,000 and you are telling me that it is not even worth I don't know picking up a phone and calling a Canadian bank who presumably would actually cooperate with you if you did the paperwork like you are supposed to? Nah, dude. It's, oh yeah, you know what? Yeah, that's rough. Too busy doing speeding tickets. That's rough. Afraid we can't do anything about that. Are you kidding me? I mean, maybe I've watched too many movies, right? read too many thrillers but it seems to me that if the money went to a canadian bank a canadian person somewhere is going to have to retrieve it at some point and it would probably be a pretty good f***ing idea to find them and put them in

jail no someone probably registered that bank account they might have also like identity theft you know jacked a bank account sure well then that person should probably know their identity was stolen instead of us just ignoring it was one thing and allowing it to continue is like by investigating smaller crimes you might uh unveil someone that's doing an extremely large amount of smaller crimes but that's uh it's not always gonna work but yeah so nothing so nicola run says no no no and no every crime has to be investigated i mean so like what are you doing yeah mean, I think that's a pretty good example. Philosophically, I guess, you know, we could debate this. But I live in the real world where if Luke steals that pen,

realistically, the only consequence is going to be me calling him out when we finally do an Intel Extreme Tech upgrade. when we finally do an Intel Extreme Tech upgrade. The point is that there actually are different tiers of criminal liability depending on the severity of the crime. I would prefer that more time went into investigating murders and other things I don't even necessarily want to bring up than investigated the Game Boy that was stolen from me when I was like 12 I was really sad that heavily impacted me at that age yep but it's it's genuinely just not as important as certain other things so you know man oh man I

see I'm trying I don't want to have I don't want any hot takes today but we're already there yeah I know I guess I guess we're already there it's like ladies and gentlemen it's like uh you know for for me how's that classist for me life is your life is is essentially all of the time that you have combined right and the way that i see it the severity of a crime is directly uh uh, is directly correlated. Not, not, not necessarily one for one, but is correlated with the amount of that time that it steals or that it, that it,

that it robs someone else of. So obviously from, from that, from that perspective, the murder of an infant child could be considered to be the worst crime because you have robbed that entire undefined potential life and accomplishment, what could have been contributed to the world. Okay.

Not only have you done that, but you have also probably damaged or completely destroyed the lives of the parents and the other family members who brought that child into the world. And the greater the magnitude of this destruction of life, the worse it is. That's sort of my general philosophy. And you can kind of take pretty much anything, whether it's rape or whether it's theft, and you can bring it to time. If you steal $ dollars from someone who works minimum wage you have stolen a day you stole a day of their life is the way that i see it or more i

think uh minimum wage right now it depends where you are yeah i think it's 14 something way too low basically everywhere um bc minimum wage 15 15 65 so yeah my math's about right so you have you have essentially stolen a day of that person's life from my point of view and so it's really it's really frustrating to me particularly financial crimes are a big one when someone steals like a billion dollars to me that is a nor an enormous deal like you have actually you have actually stolen the waking hours of hundreds or thousands upon thousands of people that they will never have back they chose to spend that time earning money you took it therefore they spent that time earning nothing and that has that has a psychological toll as well as well as just that time that's

lost so that's that's the way that i see it and when someone is conducting this kind of scam not only have they taken an extremely large amount of labor created wealth but they're probably doing it to others in fact we know for a fact they tried to do it to others because they accessed the systems of this contractor and we were not the only ones they hit. And so to me, it was outrageous that they kind of looked at it and went, eh, we're not going to do anything about this. That makes it more interesting to me

because like I mentioned with the stereo example, like by investigating that one, you might find that that is not a single occurrence, right? No. And if they stole stereos from like hundreds of people, then okay, this is a really big deal. But they do actually do that. Oh, yeah, for sure. Obviously, I'm in like my neighborhood, watch Facebook, stuff like that. So obviously, I'm not saying you shouldn't continue to report crimes, even if you know,

they're not going to investigate. We go out of our way, even if we know they're not going to do anything to make sure that we report everything, whether it's through the business or whether it's personally, because like you said, once they start to notice these patterns, actually they do apprehend like petty criminals quite often.

So apprehend like petty criminals quite often so i was very frustrated by the response from both our bank who i didn't expect to be able to do anything but i hoped would be able to do next steps i yeah i hoped it didn't go to nowhere it went to a canadian bank account therefore somebody has to get it at some point right so let's figure out who that is find out if they've been defrauded or had their identity stolen right find out who they're cooperating with there's got to be some way to track this money as it moves whether it's within the country or around the world i thought that's the whole point of a centralized banking system. No?

Isn't it? Yeah, sorry. Aren't there like actual anti-money laundering and anti-fraud laws and policies and procedures in place? Aren't there mechanisms for finding out where money came from and where it went? Isn't it all electronic? How is it even possible that we can't figure out

who it went to yeah kind of nuts it is kind of nuts i was stun locked there for a second because someone told me to look up the the minimum wage in georgia and wyoming and i was like okay and they're apparently five dollars and fifteen cents but there's a Federal Fair Labor Standards Act, which means that they have to pay the federal minimum wage, which is $7.25. $58 for an eight-hour workday. Okay. Dang.

If we want to start talking about raising the American minimum wage We are going to end up in hot take territory Extremely quickly All I'm saying is it's far from 100 bucks But yeah I mean it's a lot closer to 100 Canadian dollars That's true When you only make 58 bucks

The distance to 100 bucks Is going to feel extremely far Yep But anyways 58 bucks the the distance to 100 bucks is going to feel extremely far um yep but anyway anyways yeah so so it didn't work you didn't get it back so what happened was i am lucky enough in my life and the personal contacts that i have okay that I was able to reach someone who knows someone who has some kind of connection at the financial institution that received the money they were not supposed to find out if it was still there and tell me oh my okay got it i think i understand are we stopping there what happened okay was somehow and i have no idea how this occurred the money was frozen in the recipient's account

while an investigation was conducted okay we got it back two days ago wow not by the rcmp so there's no police involvement not as far as i'm aware just the banks uh i i don't know the exact mechanism so it could be that the police did end up being involved i imagine they might have been involved at some point what i suspect is that our our own provincial rcmp or municipal detachment or whatever didn't feel like dealing with something over provincial lines so once it was flagged by our own provincial RCMP or municipal detachment or whatever, didn't feel like dealing with something over provincial lines. So once it was flagged by an organization in the same province that the crime appeared to have been committed,

it may have actually received some proper attention. But the bigger problem here, the bigger problem is that that's what it took. That's what it took, exactly. We've talked about this before. Anyone, whether they were defrauded of $100, $50, $100,000, should be able to figure out where that fraudulent transaction went. And this should not be complicated in the digital age.

Yeah. How is that even possible? Yeah. And it shouldn't, like, anytime that it takes the public influence that one of us has in order to fix a problem. Then the system's broken. Yes, 100%. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good.

Like, I'm happy for you that it was solved, but also that's like, that's still big bad. At least you got that. Should I transition here? Go for it. At least you got that money back because now you can afford to buy an NFT that was originally $2.9 million. But now, as far as my understanding goes,

is only 6,800 bucks. That 6800 bucks you got your 90 grand back you've got way more than enough money to buy this nft that is definitely worth uh almost three million dollars can i just say can i just say that i was delighted to read this headline this is great this is so funny okay this is the this original article is from the guardian here massive props the guardian love you guys i need to donate i haven't yet i really should uh this is the mona lisa of the digital world says crypto entrepreneur sina Estavi who bought the NFT in March of 2021 2.9 million dollars for an NFT of Jack Dorsey's first tweet which to be clear guys it is non-fungible okay this cannot simply be replicated by right-clicking and save as oh geez, geez. It's non-fungible. Oh, man.

Inspect element, type it in yourself. Oof, beautiful. And, you know, the last thing you would want is to spend $2.9 million on a fungible token if you could have a non-fungible one. So he bought it in March 2021 because this is definitely a very valuable sensible asset one of my favorite quotes in here is when he's when he's putting it up for sale he says it's

important have you read this it's sorry this is actually just amazing and it's it's almost difficult to get through it's important for me who wants to buy it. I will not sell this NFT to anyone because I do not think everyone deserves this NFT. It's a picture of a tweet. Okay. And this is great. Come on. So he bought it in March, 2021 for $2.9 million. But apparently his efforts to resell it, regardless of who's actually allowed to bid, have apparently been pretty unsuccessful so far with a top bid of just $6,800. Nice. Which is a lot of money,

but compared to $2.9 million, like literally doesn't change the number. It's still $2.9 million that he's losing amazing oh man oh man yeah conrad's like give you 350 for it best i can do i just i find it Okay With cryptocurrency We are actually in the process of trying to figure out a way To accept cryptocurrency For some of our products and services

I think that cryptocurrency Does have The potential to have a value I think that With refinement It can be an amazing technology A force for change Maybe a force for good in the world.

That much I can say. NFTs? Yeah, I don't know. There's such a blatantly obvious drift. I think there's also probably utility there as well. Sure. I think it just essentially has, like, maybe's if there's i don't even know if there has been because i haven't looked into it enough but maybe there's some amount of utility

that's already being used for it that's actually legit and then like 90 of the scams let's talk about the dumb stuff the games industry is doing with nfts right so nfts one of the big pitches that i've heard for nfts in gaming is that you can have an NFT of, say, some digital artwork that could even be transported across games. Between games, yeah. Right. Okay. Except here's the problem with that. What's the difference between having it centralized and stored on Valve servers or EA's servers or Ubisoft's servers Nintendo's servers, or whatever the case may be,

what's the value of having it stored somewhere else, or having this token, if ultimately the exact same actions that could cause it to stop working, like if that particular game shuts down or whatever, right? So they delete your digital item item would also cause it to stop working because now you just own a digital item for a game they shut down like what's the difference also also real chads just don't buy any skins whether you can transfer them to game to game or not it's true so you you don't need it anyways no utility just don't buy it it's true the day i i i'm i'm making a promise i'm making a commitment right now the day that one of my kids spends money on a on a digital on a digital

thing to look at they're off the computer for a quarter for a quarter for a quarter for a kid that's a long it's a long time they will, that's a long time. That's a long time. They will learn. That's a long time. And they will learn a valuable lesson. I remember if I got grounded for a month, it felt like an eternity. That's a minute. One more thing before we get off this topic.

He said, okay, it's not a he said. While announcing the NFT sale in a tweet on the 6th of april as stavi pledged to give 50 of the proceeds which he expected to be at least 25 million dollars to charity oh hey thanks thanks for the hypothetical money for your hypothetical asset. So good. Oh, man. I mean, if you're going to spend money, you should at least actually get something in return. Why don't we head over to lttstore.com?

We have actually got some very good stuff this week. First of all, guys, if you want a merch message to show up, so those are those little messages that show up at the bottom of the stream. Ooh, as long as I'm not in a window like this? Hmm, have we thought of that, Luke? Do merch messages do anything when we're like this? No. They do not.

Ooh, okay. Well, hopefully you didn't send them. We just need the banners to be added to these scenes. Yeah, I guess we'll need to do that. Okay, cool. We'll figure that out later. Anyway, if you pick something up on the store while we're streaming, you will get a chance to fill in a merch message,

and it will either pop up or our producer will reply to you or we might address it on the show. And we've got a couple of cool things for you guys to check out. Sarah could not resist the urge to create a fucking eggshell t-shirt yeah what is this and oh from the paint rant this is gonna be really cool we're actually doing something special with this shirt this is a pre-sale so we are going to print only the exact number of shirts that we order So this is a digital reference mock-up that Sarah did Are you going to damage the pink?

Six of the shirts They will be randomly selected One of each size Will not be a f***ing eggshell They will be satin And they will be covered in little masking tape pieces Just like the walls of my house. There you go.

They will also come with a, with a, a note that I'm actually, I'm going to write it. I'm going to write it live on the show. I'll, I'll create a note. We're going to do six copies.

Okay. Then we're going to like label them one of six, two of six, all the way to six of six. And you will, you will get an ugly an ugly stupid satin shirt and you will also get a little a little note that i i will write you here on the here on the show today that's amazing that that that that's it that's the big that's the big uh

that's the big pitch so you might get you might get a f***ing eggshell shirt or i might decide to screw you over with satin now actually uh i'm glad we're talking about this because some folks pointed out that um satin they said that it actually has more resin than eggshell maybe that's a regional thing because not only is every satin paint that i've ever seen here in Canada more matte than eggshell, but I actually checked the exact product they were using on the like master painter, whatever organization thing that like rates paints. And it's it's it's resin content. Its hardness was lower than an eggshell product from that same brand. There's also some confusion in Sherwin-Williams.

So that's the brand of paint that we're using. I wish we'd just used Cloverdale. I'm much more comfortable with their products anyway. There's some confusion in the way that Sherwin-Williams labels their paint. And they apparently do have some products where satin and eggshell are used interchangeably at least by them but as for whether they are actually the same uh that i don't know so there you go there you go by satin no by satin i mean the paint finish this was a rant that i did during a live stream and then we also uploaded as a clip to lmg clips yeah so if you guys uh if

you guys want a an eggshell shirt then hey cool go for it the real product the not limited time one that we are actually launching is a really good one man we have been working on this one for far too long considering how of a sweater simple it looks on the surface it's a waffle like a waffle pattern fabric long sleeve shirt it's made of a hundred percent organic cotton super minimal ltt branding there's just a little tiny tag on the bottom you can you can barely even see it down here it's available in charcoal as well as ultramarine. And man, is this thing ever comfortable and breathable. And it just, I think, man, the fashion team just nailed this one. I like it a lot.

I'm also seeing some people in chat say weird timing. I sort of thought the same thing. Stuff comes out when it comes out. And then remembered that I was out for a run yesterday and it was negative one degree celsius outside so like maybe it's not i also australia is a thing yeah like i you know just saying and it'll still be available when it's slightly less weird timing so who cares yeah it's it's it's great they they just they absolutely nailed it like it it manages to be like nice and fitted in the chest it hangs nicely uh but it's still

it's like super stretchable oh yeah so like if you're if you're a little wider in the you know girthy parts then it can accommodate that as well so yeah we're really excited about this one real excited so you guys yeah you're gonna want to go check that out i. So, yeah, we're really excited about this one. Real excited. So, you guys, yeah, you're going to want to go check that out. I don't know how many we have in stock, but, wow, okay. Apparently, it works pretty well for the ladies, too. That's Sarah.

She manages to make anything look good. Look at that. That's awesome. Oh, yeah, and, of course, you can mouse over, and you can see who the model is and what size they're wearing. So if you see a body type that you're like, oh, yeah, I'm kind of like that. It matches me a little bit better.

Or the person I'm shopping for. You can scroll through all our pictures and get a pretty good idea of how that's going to fit on you. All right, let's move on, shall we? that's going to fit on you all right let's move on shall we our next topic is called linus apologized to daddy elon okay i had some takes last week that were sort of half based on articles that i half read over the last five years some of which were a long time ago and the bottom line for me was that i don't think that elon musk is a particularly considerate and kind thoughtful uh person is is my take based on his public actions we were talking about him purchasing twitter so that doesn't and his willingness to uh his willingness to put his own desires above those

of others unilaterally is sort of i guess how i could summarize it um basically being a douchebag right just kind of going yeah that's that's the way that i wanted and that last time everyone else can just i don't know not suck a popsicle so so basically we're gonna go through everything i talked about last week i had the i had the writing team go through and clarify some of the things i got wrong expand upon some of the things i got not so wrong and i'm just gonna kind of go through it here so um misleading statements and or posturing around charity um and or you know hey look at that good thing i'm doing look at me i would like attention sort of actions so we've got the trapped thai kid situation uh this was the source of the whole

pedo guy lawsuit um musk helps by sending a submarine okay so no i don't think this is entirely fair so the okay the pedo guy thing yeah is its own thing i don't want to address really stupid that was really stupid 100 i'm on board he was asked for help and he was asked to design a backup solution and he brought the thing there and then he left it with them and when the rescue was successful he said great job to the rescuers all that kind of stuff and then there was this fight that happened afterwards and he called the dude pedo guy or whatever but it was above board until then and the guy did lose the defamation suit but what that's probably because mean big yeah big bank take little bank more than anything else.

I don't know, but yeah. I know that guy was attacking him first. That doesn't make it okay, et cetera, et cetera. But putting it in helps, that's not fair. He was asked to help and he helped. Donating ventilators. This one was pretty funny to me. Early in the COVID pandemic,

Musk committed to donating ventilators to hospitals they turned out to be cpap machines which is not the same thing don't forget he was a covid denialist and in my opinion his behavior towards his workers during the pandemic was extremely anti-labor and when you are anti-labor you are anti basically 99 of people it's that simple um yeah not not cool at all starlink in ukraine so starlink worked with usa to send 5 000 starlink terminals after ukrainian prime minister uh michaelo fedorov asked elon on twitter to activate satellites for use in ukraine to which elon replied starlink service is now active in Ukraine. Yes, they are satellites.

Upon receiving the satellites, Fedorov thanked Elon again on Twitter, probably the most effective charity to date. Hold on. This is another one. Okay. So if you look into this, it was, if I remember correctly, the majority of the direct expenditure was from usaid there is some stuff that was thrown in from starlink though and if i remember correctly starlink is planning to support them for longer than usaid paid for etc etc etc all right uh lawsuit against the founder uh the lawsuit was reversed martin eberhard sued elon for libel

slander and breach of contract it alleged that el Elon pushed Eberhard out of the company. The case was probably settled. Nothing was publicly disclosed. Okay, there's a bit of editorializing here, but it's not mine, so I'm going to go with it. Horst's guess is that probably Elon fired Eberhard because he was mad about not being in the limelight as much as the co-founder.

There's a quote here from Elon. I'm not merely unmentioned in the New York Times coverage, but whereas Martin is actually referred to as the chairman. We've got Elon's treatment of his family. I don't have a ton of respect for people who don't treat their family well. We don't have a ton of information about the kids other than that they have weird names that seem to be designed solely to get headlines.

The kind of attention-seeking behavior honestly strikes me as extremely childish, but that sort of is what it is. As for the whole treatment of SOs. Vanity Fair interview from from march grimes complained about her poor living conditions um like bro wouldn't even get a new mattress there was a hole in her side of the bed uh he suggested they replace it with her mattress bro does not live like a billionaire uh why do we live in this insecure forty thousand dollar house where the neighbors like film us and there's no security and I'm eating peanut butter for eight days in a row. She does frequently speak positively of Elon,

her admiration for his accomplishments, plans for Mars, electric cars, future of humanity, et cetera. Still seems to be content having him in her life. As for his first wife, seems to be much less fond,

described herself as a starter wife, filed for divorce. Then six weeks later, got engaged to a second wife. That usually doesn't happen unless there was some kind of lead up to it. Elon took very little time before trying to ensure she would not be able to have any impact on his wealth in the form of post-nuptial agreements. That's cool. That's like, that's partnership. I guess as someone who feels that a marriage is a

partnership, I have zero respect for that kind of behavior. He would apparently continuously criticize her, saying things like, if you were my employee, I would fire you. Referred to her grief after losing their child to SIDS as emotionally manipulated, pressured her to dye her hair more blonde. Ooh, the SIDS one is really brutal.

Yeah, there's just, I just i mean again this is all alleged um but you know we've got anyway back to the twitter thing so yeah i'm i'm not a fan and you know what you can be but i don't have to be and i'm not a fan. And you know what? You can be. But I don't have to be, and I'm not. My whole point on the clarifications, and honestly, just to be completely real, this doesn't fully satisfy my desire for clarifications. A lot of these are still editorialized, as I would say. Like the trapped kids thing.

Yep, that's fair. That wasn't properly covered the satellites thing was not properly covered etc uh well thankfully we have you here thank you luke yeah hooray um if you're gonna attack people you should just do it properly that i'm not i'm not a fan that's fine i'm not a fan of elon i i had the same feedback for people back when trump was president of the United States and people used to just say like, oh, orange man bad. It's like, you're not, you're not accomplishing anything.

If anything, you're attacking that weekly is just like offering up you to be like parried more aggressively. Like just if you're going to, if you're going to go at them, just go for the throat. So it's better like that. It's better to, yeah, better to clarify and be able to back up your statements what so what do you think about the the attempt to

purchase all of Twitter for 43 tr it's not trillion is it pretty sure that's a typo billion 43 billion um I find it I find it deeply ironic that there is a certain subset of people that are looking for saviors from the elite and turn to figures like donald trump and or elon musk the likes like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure these people's lives and experiences are nothing like yours, they are actually the elite. And if you are expecting someone who has such disdain

for the questions and commentary of others that they actually dissolved their press relations department for Tesla so that they wouldn't have to answer uncomfortable questions. If you imagine that kind of thin-skinned individual is going to be some kind of champion for free speech or for the rights of the people. I don't follow you. I'm sorry. I can't go where you're going. I expected this type of stuff to get in the doc as well.

I expected this type of stuff to get in the doc as well, but there's examples of him trying to squash or at least heavily negatively reacting to free speech as well. There was some... This is fair. Are we going to talk about the private jet tracker or something else? The private jet tracker is interesting. Sure is. But that isn't what I was going to talk about.

The private jet tracker guy, by the way, has tweeted out talking about how like if elon buys twitter he feels like he's gonna get banned um but there's there's other stuff like i i should have prepared this for the show to make claims on it but um there's like i i believe there was a someone who wrote an article about tesla that he didn't like uh but they had like pre-purchased a model x or something so he canceled their order it's just like like come on man like there's there's a lot of there's a lot of examples of like oh yeah and like man guys you know i see comments like well who's gonna take on the elite other than the elite us everyone yeah everyone not the elite the elite

are not gonna save you replacing your your your your all-powerful god king with another all-powerful god king never worked for anyone no literally never worked it's bad news dude so um you know it's honestly it's it's hard for me it's hard for me to fathom because sometimes i think he's playing 4d chess and other other times i think he's just behaving like an actual child and trolling people on the internet so is he is this some kind of scheme to uh grossly increase the value of the nine point whatever percent stake that he already bought to make a quick buck is it honestly he does gamer moves like that all the time i wouldn't be surprised yeah yeah could be that is it just to is it just to be in the headlines because as far as i can tell he can't go 48 hours without just doing something so everybody's looking at him there's i've seen some claims that there's other stuff going on with him i don't know

um like things that he's doing at his different companies that are bad i don't know i'm not informed on this and that he's trying to make splashes with this twitter thing to distract from it i don't know um dude uh dude uses social media stuff for for super gamer moves so yep i would be very sus of like i mean you should just be really suspicious of anything that anyone with that amount of power does ever people like boosting stocks is illegal yeah so was not disclosing in the correct amount of time that he had acquired the stake that he had acquired before. But this is like, this is what I'm talking about.

Where for some reason, that kind of white collar criminality doesn't get prosecuted. You know, you have someone literally take $300 out of the cash register of a convenience store, and they are going to the slammer.

Oh, yeah. And so they should. It's traumatic for the staff, and it's a crime. It's a crime. But then, you know, you manipulate the value of a stock. You don't disclose that you're buying large amounts of it. So this is what happened. He didn't disclose correctly that he was acquiring quietly behind the scenes, a vast amount of Twitter stock, and then disclosed it after he was supposed to and was like, boom,

I have it all now. And what typically happens if you're not stealthy about it, which you're not allowed to be, is as a high profile figure acquiring a bunch of stock that gets in the headlines and it drives the price up so what he did is he saved himself a bunch of money at the expense of all the people that he bought from and then he announces it's the price spikes right yeah one of my favorite ones is just like and this is speaking as a Canadian before the Americans get all spicy. As far as I can tell, just Western countries in general, politicians being able to track their stock portfolios. I've heard, I haven't looked into this directly, but I've heard that Wall Street Bets has started tracking politicians' investments and finding that it's like, hey we just follow them you get really rich because you'll see they'll make like weird moves right and then some information will be publicized and

then it's like oh i guess they knew ahead of everyone else so they made like investment stuff based on it it's so brutal the fact that that's just like oh that's fine it's like what ever short of infinity careful this comment says saying you should go to jail for stealing a candy bar is the hottest take linus has ever had i didn't say that i didn't say that i said you would i also said it was 300 from the cash register which implies that someone was coerced into giving it to you it's not a candy which is a really big deal so it's not a candy bar I didn't say you should I said you would so real careful

I've had a lot of words put into my mouth over the last little bit here oh man anyway yeah so um yeah so I think that

um the whole thing is a stupid publicity stunt personally um I don't I don't yeah I've I'm very I'm much more interested in this than any other story that

i've heard that's highly related to this lately because i feel like i almost have personal investment in just watching twitter burn because i hate the platform that's fair and if like there's a bunch of people posting like if he buys it we should all leave and i'm like please buy it then because if everyone just leaves i would be stoked yeah can we can can i can i can i have a hot take though here that's sort of it's related to what you were talking about before politicians and investments yeah how is that a thing oh yeah i don't know honestly honestly right left cent, I don't care. It's everyone. We should all agree that that should not be... How is it open for debate?

That if you are able to affect the policies that affect the valuation of these companies, that that is a clear conflict of interest. Or if you have genuinely inside information on how things are going to be affected. genuinely inside information on how things are going to be affected even like i'm i'm just a lowly media tech media peon and and i'm sitting here going you know yes i i own zero stake i made an exception for framework whether they succeed in their mission i don't know i explained my whole reasoning for it but that was an utterly

exceptional circumstance that should not be the norm like i shouldn't be just running around buying amd shares even if i know that it's gonna crush it like man do you know how often i look at what happened to amd's shares after i made that video being like, you should buy AMD stock. I am not a financial advisor, but you should probably buy AMD stock right now. Like, or I think I said, I wish I could buy it or something like that. Like I knew where they were heading because just as someone who follows the industry closely, I knew that nobody else had anything for at least two years. And I know that a lot of the time stock number go up because of just good news.

And so I knew it was going to be an endless parade of good news for AMD. And I knew there was going to be at least a solid six to 18 months of bad news for Intel that was going to just make them go like this. And I think they tripled or something like that. And that time I'm sitting here going,

have some freaking restraint, you people. Yeah. Like whether we're talking Nancy Pelosi or, oh man, who was that? It's both sides of the aisle. Particularly egregious one on the right. I can't remember. It doesn't matter.

This is like brutal. Trading on inside political government information in order to make tons of money is a... They bipartisanly seem to agree that they want to do that. Like, when you look at, like, the people that have been successful at trading, it's both colors. It's absolutely...

Red and blue all over the place. It's, uh... It's interesting. Anyways. I'm getting pretty off topic here interesting anyways yeah i'm just mad yeah me too okay let's talk about something else let's let's do some merch messages let's let's talk about how i made some money like actually you know producing something that's of value not just manipulating people's fears and sentiment about their gambling stocks. Dogecoin!

Doge! Doge to the moon! I own no Dogecoin. Zero. Me neither. Hit me, Dan. Oh, we have a stand-in producer today. Yeah. Yeah, well, first one's about paint. Ready to talk about paint?

I'm ready to talk about paint some more Are there really 22 incoming ones? I can't keep up You can't keep up? What are people What's going on today? Holy crap What the heck

It's my first time doing March messages There were two messages in between When I said holy crap There's another one now I can't read them fast enough There's another one Please help There are new There's another one There are new orders coming in every two There's another one now. I can't read them fast enough. There's another one. Please help.

There are new, there's another one. There are new orders coming in every two days. There's another one. This has been the whole time. I thought this was what Bell dealt with. What the hell is happening? Uh,

okay. You know what? No, you stay, you stay on the incoming ones. I've got a pitch for you. I've got a pitch for you before we do this. Yeah. What about flamethrowers?

Got him. pitch for you before we do this yeah what about help flamethrowers got him so good all right it sounds boring to me all right uh what am i looking at here thisonymous. Hey, love the work you guys are doing against Russia. It's not that. Hey, Linus. The SO and I recently bought a new house and we're looking to repaint. Neither of us love eggshell. I was wondering if there are any other colors

slash brands that you would recommend. Okay, common misconception. Eggshell is not a color. Because eggs actually come in many different colors, depending on the kind of chicken that they get pooped out of. Not actually poo. But poo can get on them. Eggshell is a sheen.

It's a surface finish. And the reason it's called eggshell is because it has a little bit of texture Kind of like an egg and it catches the light it has a little bit of shine like an egg and The reason that eggshell is good for walls is that it is a good balance between Scattering the light that hits it which reduces like hot spots like shiny spots like you would see on a semi-gloss or a high gloss. And because of the bumpiness, it hides

surface imperfections, and because of the slight gloss to it, it has more resin that sits on the surface, so it's more likely that you're going to be able to scrub it without doing damage to either the finish, because it's inherently kind of bumpy're going to be able to scrub it without doing damage to either the finish,

because it's inherently kind of bumpy and uneven, or to the wall or the paint adhesion in total. So that's why eggshell is good for walls. Your eggshell paint can be in any tint or color that you like. So don't worry about it. Don't sweat the color. Go pick a color. Put eggshell on your walls okay that's

what you want to do new idea new pitch yeah hear me out you call it a flamethrower but it's mini and you just use it to to work with heat shrink tubing and it's it's just a lighter i i kind of need one of those actually i kind of like it yeah you know it's just a lighter. I kind of need one of those, actually. I kind of like it. You know, it's actually not that far off a product that I wanted to develop for LTT Store. I wanted to make, and it's on the list, but I want to make a handheld torch for lighting candles,

but that also has a secondary trigger that just just like is like a blower you can put it out yeah so it's like a lighter and blower and because i just want it next to my bath so when i light my scented candles for my bath because i'm a chick like that um he makes the candles himself they're actually pretty nice like i'm not even like i'm not throwing shade he does a pretty good job i'm kind of get i'm kind of an i'm learning to be an enthusiast yeah yeah and by the way on his candle tip guys can i just please make it very clear for the people to whom it was not already that when i'm like i'm a chick like that i am parodying i it's satire i'm making fun of toxic masculinity okay thank you carry on i oh that was the pitch i think

i was yeah yeah i like it yeah no that's it yeah like i like it just in the shape of a flamethrower yeah for sure i'm into it yeah max asks does buying an ltd store gift card help ltd's cash flow or are there additional barriers we as viewers don't see seems like an alternative to pre-ordering since funds can be used towards any product. Max, did you just spend a thousand dollars to buy one eggshell t-shirt and four

$250 gift cards? So, I actually don't know how it works. One moment, please. Holy crap. I need to call Nick Light. I actually don't know how it works. One moment, please. Holy crap. I need to call Nick Light.

For a second, I was like, oh no, merch message is glitched out. Nick, you're on speaker on the WAN show. Okay. So I know that gift cards do not show up on my sale report in the Shopify dashboard. Does that mean Shopify holds the gift card money or do they send it to us? I believe that they hold it until it's used. Okay. So then if people just like buy a bunch of gift cards, that does not help our cash flow. No. Okay. if people just like buy a bunch of gift cards that does not help our cash flow no okay um use a bunch of gift cards to help our cash flow i see okay uh well i'm gonna let max s here know

that it was a really good effort good thought um should tell them how much and yeah so uh poor max bought a thousand000 in gift cards to try and help us out with screwdriver and backpack cash flow. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Nick. Okay.

Okay. All right. See you later. Okay. Okay. Right. right so Max if you if you want to send a ticket to support we'd be happy to

refund that for you to hmm okay that's pretty beneficial for Shopify to hold on to the gift card yeah that's actually kind of BS yeah wow like what happens if people on to the gift card. Yeah, that's actually kind of BS.

Yeah. Wow. Like what happens if people never spend the gift card? Do they just keep it? I don't know. I kind of want to figure that out now. That's kind of wild. Why don't we do a couple more before we do our sponsor spots.

Zachary asks, what's the hardest choice you made when building the LMG slash flow plane that you can tell us about hardest choice jeez I can think of like a lot of very big

yeah choices hardest choice I mean I think probably one of the hardest choices that I ever made was buying this building that's what i that's what i expected it was going to be was the first building that was such a leap i was i as far as i could tell i was going into debt for 10 years yeah um i literally remember that conversation spoiler alert we crushed it in like one and a half thanks guys but yeah i i remember sitting down and having a conversation where you were like oh like oh i know we need this to grow but like i don't know about being

under debt for for a decade yeah over a building yeah yeah it worked out yeah what about you oh wow um i'm going with taking a job at a company that probably has no future whatsoever but you feel free and let me know if it's a different one yeah i know that's i mean that's that was it i i like uh i was doing really well in school i had yeah i had recruiters on me already. Taking this job was undercutting the amount that the recruiters wanted to pay me. And it was way less stable. And by a lot as well. But it seemed so much more interesting. And it was.

And I'm very happy that I did it. I'm glad too. And honestly, I don't know if I can say it was that hard. I think like telling my parents was harder than actually making the choice. Oh, I remember your parents' level of impress being extremely low. Now it's very high.

They're both super stoked. Yeah. Luke's parents and I, we're good. But like... I still, I can't even say it on the show but i still remember what my dad said you probably remember what my dad said why don't you just say it on the show i'd have to bleep it uh okay i'll try and time it i'm i'm just i'm still gonna say it short i'm just gonna say the letter sure just in case um after like a little bit of silence being like okay just don't f it up

it's like all right your your dad's so supportive yeah he's great yeah i mean for both of them like at that point in time they were helping me quite a bit financially yep um and and like i was i was close to finishing school but i was leaving and they had helped me financially for like a while at this point. So I was effectively throwing away a pretty significant amount of their investment and calling them on the phone to be like, yeah, I'm going to YOLO this YouTube thing, dude. So the fact that they weren't like more negative about it was really cool. And then very quickly, like once they i guess

understood more about it because for a long time it was just like this thing i did to help fund my schooling yeah and now they're like oh wait what once it started becoming more of a thing they were very quickly on board um like my mom was full on board when we were still in the in the house right so like like they were yeah they were i mean by then by then we like were hiring more people and we like actually had recurring revenue i mean okay so no that's not fair they were both on board before then as well i don't know if you remember but my brother and my mom helped us move that's true out of your garage to the yeah i remember that it didn't take them that long yeah luke's parents are super cool yeah his whole family is super cool yeah um I was

once threatened by one of his relatives with a knife man have we told we've probably told that story we have told the story but even then super cool I'm over it there's a there's a significant amount of land between those two people like a man I still I still I don't remember the words you said because it's just kind of not the way my memory works, but I still remember the tone of your voice when you, it felt like you just, you really needed reassurance when you told me that you had told your parents that we were doing this. It was like, you really needed to hear me say,

this is going to be okay. And at that time, I didn't really know the answer because we hadn't locked down the ownership of the ltd channel from ncix yet yeah i remember having already committed and knowing you were down the hall because i like lived with you at this point updating your linkedin because you weren't sure if we were gonna get the channel i'm like this is bad i don't know if i've ever talked about hey i did tell you though that wherever i went i would try to take you with me i'm just like yeah i made it clear that like luke was part of the package yeah you had my back you had my back i'm

not saying you didn't have my back i'm just just saying in that situation, that was a very, I'm sure you remember, that was a very doom and gloom. I mean, I don't think either of us were that convinced we were going to get the channel. Well, we certainly weren't sure. Yeah. There was some drama around me trying to poach another NCIX employee that almost submarined the whole deal. Yeah. Submarine? Torpedoed. Torpedoed. Jeez. Son of a submariner! ex-employee that almost submarine to the whole deal yeah submarine torpedo torpedoed geez son of a submariner um some of you'll get it yeah so so i was actually creating this linkedin profile

look at this picture it was the only somewhat professional looking picture of me that existed and the only reason it looked professional is because the cheesy slogan t-shirt that I'm wearing was cropped out. I mean, I literally put my high school on here. Because what am I going to say? That I flunked out of UBC? You know what's great? You know, there's that whole stereotype or that whole, I don't know, trope, right? that whole um i don't know trope right where uh startup founders uh like like startup people quit school but i flunked out luke quit like what a year from completion something like that okay

ed was the worst because as far as i remember is he still here oh i wish he was still here in the office to tell the story it's terrible okay ed was like one half of a semester from completion he actually started working for us on like a uh like a school uh a school endorsed like a work study like program like for credits and then he literally as far as i can tell just never went back and stopped replying to emails why did you people have so much faith in me i don't know did i look like i knew what i was doing a lot of the stories from that time like trying to trying to recall them like this was the same with the mountain story like when i was talking about the lightning it doesn't feel real and then

i i like pick up some evidence like after watching after i told that story about the lightning i said it was really close yeah in my head i was like 30 feet ish but then i'm like that doesn't sound real i can't say that and then i went back and I watched some of those old videos and there's Austin who was with me at the time talking about how close it was at that time because it's on film and I'm like oh my goodness my memory was actually correct that's insane another thing I want to bring this up now before I forget it yeah if you you mentioned the old shirt that you had on for the LinkedIn profile yeah if you google ltt store on the sidebar it comes up with uh linus sebastian canadian youtuber like your your like wikipedia page yeah and then it's just this picture of this really old picture of you wearing your old

badminton shirt like everyday badminton every day i'm shuttling yeah and then if you if you click images i don't know why i did this if you click images, I don't know why I did this. If you click images, it's like almost all just like you wearing very little clothes. Like so many of the results are just partially, partially nude. By the way, this is amazing. Oh man.

What is that? Oh, that's funny oh no all right what are we supposed to be talking about right now i don't remember uh oh i'm really enjoying the show today i'm having a great time uh the store oh the show is brought to you by... Thanks to New Relic for sponsoring today's show. If you're a software engineer, I know you've been here. It's 9 p.m., you're finally unwinding from work, when suddenly your phone buzzes with an alert. Something's broken, and your mind's already racing about what could be wrong.

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I found that very interesting because we use literally every single one of those. I know, right? That was one heck of a sponsor rack. It's like, why do we even bother exchanging money yeah just like yeah let's just simplify this process let's talk about honda because this yeah honda um you guys can yourself yeah yeah i mean you know i talk a lot about anti-consumer behavior from Tesla because Tesla kind of is their own worst enemy when it comes to making headlines for being complete jackasses to their customers. But that doesn't mean that I am any more tolerant of it when anybody else does it. And this is not cool. This was posted on The Drive. Okay. Honda orders big takedown honda related 3d printing models from maker communities we're not just talking things that for which there exists a honda exact part or things with

honda logos on them or things with even honda the word honda as part of you know where you could make an argument that it's against their trademark you know in their font or whatever they took down everything from stuff anything that was compatible with a honda and honda can quite frankly eat a gigantic fucking dick like that is not cool i really hope that like throughout all of these communities people are able to uh compile together all of these different files and just like throw them up somewhere and let people download them like because like that's this drives me nuts a lot of the parts were even just compatible there was no first party other solution so you're just taking all this work that people have done to make your product better yeah and you're like why to what end so rough annoying too because that's the parent company

of my car and i've been holding off getting a different car i shouldn't say new car because i have no real interest in buying a new car but i've been holding off getting a different car. I shouldn't say new car because I have no real interest in buying a new car. But I've been holding off updating my car because I really like my car. So I would want just like a newer, more electrified version. Right. But now I don't really want to support this. So now. No, this is extremely, extremely anti-consumer behavior.

There is no excuse. No no excuse i don't even care someone in full play chat mentioned strice and effect yeah that's what i'm kind of saying is like i i hope people bring together all these files and keep pushing them in other ways uh that honda's not as easily able to take down and i hope more people use them and more people either repair their cars or add features or do whatever oh man i'm gonna stay angry stuff why next topic yep what is it insteon's gone so okay yeah what this is a huge problem in iot now insteon was not one of the biggest brands in the space by any stretch of the imagination but they were a home automation uh brand that made hubs switches uh lights basically they are gone the system status still says online which i guess is hilarious but they have essentially shut off their servers uh everyone's hubs are offline. And yes, right here

from Simulane on Reddit, this is the problem with having a single provider for the entire technology stack. And this is why I was so angry about having any kind of cloud integration for anything in my home. Because you cannot guarantee to me that you will still be around in a year 10 years a hundred years homes do not just you don't replace them you upgrade them you repair them certainly but you don't just replace them it's a very different mentality when you are buying something to integrate into your home versus when you are, you know, buying essentially more of a consumable, like a consumer electronic device or a couch, things that actually do tend to be replaced every so often. Like, I don't mind if a piece of cutting edge technology like a television

um you know has some kind of uh change in its actually no that makes me pretty angry too because we had that whole situation around nintendo closing the uh the wii u shop as well as uh which was the other one they closed like tvs inserting ads and stuff like that inserting ads changing the experience yeah that sucks but killing the functionality after the fact this is why an entire generation of gaming experiences is not going to exist for the people that come after yeah and it it's just it's extremely frustrating yeah yeah the zifu over on twitch says i got an error code on one of the controllers for my heated floors past service got an error that says replace the unit past serviceable age

unreal so no everything needs to be locally controlled so that the worst case scenario is that you can keep running whatever software you had bugs and all that has to be the worst case scenario so rip insteon i'm really frustrated that this is happening but you know every is i'm not the only one who called it this this is what happens when every company creates proprietary crap that only works with their own proprietary crap speaking of which uh do you know how many times Brandon's Model X has been back to Tesla? No. Like three.

And they wanted like $900 for some stupid thing. He wants to do like a whole video about it, just like the joys of electric ownership. Like three years later, how glad am I that I spent this much money on this car? Because like, man, most service centers like won't touch them really in other anti-consumer news tim cook hates sideloading tim cook delivered

a key the keynote speech at the global privacy summit in washington dc and his he mostly highlighted apple's privacy features and their ongoing fight to protect privacy this is a quote as a company we're profoundly inspired by what technology can make possible, but we know too that technology is neither inherently good nor inherently bad. It is what we make of it. It is a mirror that reflects the ambitions of the people who use it, the people who build it, and the people who regulate it. He has good script writers.

Or speech writers. I guess technically it's a speech, not a script. It's a script of a speech. He also highlighted Apple's features that give users control over their data, like the app tracking transparency. He is against proposed regulations that would diminish these features and expose users to privacy and security risks. Here in Washington and elsewhere, said Cook, policymakers are taking steps in the name of competition that would force Apple to let apps onto iPhone that circumvent the App Store through a process called sideloading, said Cook. This means

data-hungry companies would be able to avoid our privacy rules and once again track our users against their will. It would also potentially give bad actors a way around the comprehensive security protections we have put in place, putting them in direct contact with our users. If we are forced to let unvetted apps onto iPhone, the unintended consequences will be profound, warned Cook. And when we see that, we feel an obligation to speak up and ask policymakers to work with us to advance goals that I truly believe we share without undermining privacy in the process. Boy, it definitely has nothing to do with how much money they make having a monopoly on software sold on their mobile platform. Yeah, because

there's other solutions here, right? Oh, absolutely. Treating it like this is the only possible solution to completely have no barriers whatsoever to malware on the iPhone. Do you imagine for a second that Apple is going to just be like, okay, yeah, well, you know what? Let's go. I'll take you three steps further.

We're going full route access to everything. Here we go, boys. Like considering, okay, two things. Not only does the app store take a cut, which is the main thing that people only ever talk about, because honestly, the other one is not that big of a deal. Yeah. But they also take a fee to be on the platform at all.

Sure do. I would be much more okay with it if we had to handle the the uh the uploading of the files to the to the users all this other type of stuff and they just ensured that it was all privacy okay right and then maybe we have to list it on the app store or whatever but um we pay this fee it gets a privacy check mark from them and then we have to handle everything certification process or something fine with that that's an easy workaround you don't want to do that though because your whole actual point is just to make sure you keep getting your cut and that it doesn't get eroded extremely

transparent dude man stop trying you've seen the whole thing where apple like claims they don't know how much they make on the app store oh yeah and jayden just brought this up too you have to use a mac to develop for them like dude it's brutal oh oh there's a there's a thing i'm supposed to there's a thing i'm supposed to uh show where's uh where is it there's another ltd store thing i forgot about i need your guys's i need your guys's opinion ask the audience about the duvets linus the duvets we are working on the bed ripper so it's actually inspired by um like green pcb green and cpu pin gold so if you look really closely we can't get in close enough it's shaped like the pads on the bottom of an lga cpu there do you want to just look at mine sure there you. And we've got a

couple of different colorways. This one is actually more like it's the same pin, it's the same pin shape for this design. It increases in size or decreases in size and density in order to get this kind of this pixely gradient-y kind of thing. So we want to hear from you guys. Which ones do you like? Do you like the more CPU-colored one, or would you prefer something that's a little more monochromatic and more likely to match... Yes, Jaden.

This is how you get the ladies. Your other decor. Yeah, I don't know. I would say straw pull it, but that didn't exactly work out that great for me. Yeah, is there a better... other this is how you get your other decor um yeah i don't know i would say straw pull it but that didn't exactly work out that great yeah is there a better i i why is straw pull crappy now i don't know i think twitch implemented their own polling thing and i think twitch was the main reason why people use straw pull so maybe there's like something else now oh okay i don't know i'm

you know what i'm gonna give them one more try i'm gonna give them one more chance and then if this sucks and doesn't work then we will we will just have to move on people are telling me to make my own straw poll we've been thinking about making a polling thing um but there's honestly just so much else to do right now there we go sorry about that guys so i'm dumping that into the chat youtube chat is moving pretty fast but guys go ahead and take a crack at trying to click on one of these in the meantime uh why don't we jump into our oh oh in the meantime we should definitely do some more merch messages uh there are not too many curated ones, which is good, and it looks like

Dan, are you in slightly better under control shape over there? Yeah, I think it calmed down, which is always nice. Okay, do you want to read us a few? Yeah, sure. Had a conversation with a bud a few times. How do you feel about using Chinese smartphones from brands that send user data

to China or have in the past? Blue, Xiaomi, OnePlus, Huawei, that sort of thing. Huawei. Huawei. Huawei. Do you care at all? Is it better than Google? Okay, so I...

As a non-Chinese citizen and as someone who doesn't really have to go to China, to me, sending my information to the Chinese government is frankly not really that different than sending my information to the American government. I think the Chinese government has made it very clear that they can and will use citizens' data against them. There's some very alarming footage coming out of China right now. If their authoritarianism was not apparent before, for some reason, I think it's pretty clear now

how they intend to use the information that they harvest from their citizens. But as a non-citizen, I don't really see what difference it makes if they know what apps i'm using on my phone or whatever the case may be so for me personally no i don't care i don't especially want to benefit the ccc uh the ccp in any way but it's almost said cccp you know the codec pack anyway uh i don't want to benefit them in any way but i i have other reasons for not using those brands of chinese phones just generally speaking i find that their android skins like kind of suck and they tend to be a china first experience pre-loaded with apps that i don't care about some of which aren't necessarily removable so that's where i'm

at on that we have another update from Max here, who spent more money to tell you that there's no ticket needed because it's no different buying now or later. The first order was to funnel money to you. Thank you for answering his question. Thanks, Max. Okay. Hit me again.

This one's from Andrew. Any plans for more streams with other LMG team members? Sarah's was pretty entertaining. As for my friend Mythos, turkey bacon is better than regular bacon. Turkey bacon is amazing. Have you tried turkey bacon? No. Oh, it's so good.

Plans for more streams. Sarah's, yeah, Sarah's was great. It's something that I think we absolutely should and could do more of, but it's not something that's on our radar right now just because, man, are there ever a lot of balls in the air at the moment with the labs coming. By the way, we're pushing that another week.

I'm so sorry. Next week, I promise for real. Okay, so also we've been working with this uh startup company to do the call for this uh and they they like walked me through how it should work and everything it's very it's an extremely streaming friendly calling service uh and it i think it's gonna be great we'll have to try it for us to see uh but every single week they're like hey are we doing it this week we're all ready we're all ready to go. We're excited to see it go live.

And then I'm just like, uh, no. Sorry, guys. Next week. We're working on it. Oh, man. It'll happen. It'll happen. Do you want more?

Yeah, keep hitting me. Sure. This one's from Nick. I live out in the woods in the southern US, and my internet is less than 3 megabits per second on a good day. There's no major ISPs in the area. Any way possibly to get decent internet speeds? No hotspots either?

Probably not. No. I mean, Starlink. That's good. Yeah, that's about as good as it's going to get, unfortunately. Also, you mentioned woods woods and you mentioned bacon uh if you go camping in bc and you go past a indigenous ran gas station it's pretty common that they'll have bacon there it's like incredible every single time yeah oh i'm gonna have to try it's actually amazingly good just a just a

recommendation if you come by bc and you're going camping it's like you get a bag on the way there you get a bag on the way back it's great it's worth it both ways oh this one's uh this one's kind of exciting it's for matt hey linus luke and bell i'll have to let him know i work for asml uh we supply sorry i keep getting messages here yes i, I know who ASML is. Hi, you have my attention. We supply lithography machines. Have you heard of Samsung or Intel? I've been chatting with Bell about this already, but I was curious to be interested in touring our factories.

I mean, does a bear shit in the woods? Well, there's bacon there, apparently, so... Yeah, I meant jerky. I don't know why I said... Yes. I and my audience would be quite interested in fact in seeing asml's facilities drag him there personally yeah uh there's absolutely no way that i would that i would give up the opportunity to go check that out um all right oh shoot i accidentally i accidentally moved a merch message that was thanking me for guiding them on their phantom 1055 t overclock hey no problem apparently that machine serves them for 10 years yeah absolutely love it all right they're coming

in pretty uh pretty heavy now so dan i'm gonna let you deal with the incoming. Thank you very much. And I'll switch to going through the curated ones. Andrew asks, are you still happy with your security camera setup? Will you be having a similar setup in the new home? Yes, I will have a similar setup. It will all be not on the cloud. Thank you, Ubiquity, for not having subscription fees or

cloud access unless I authorize it for any of my security stuff. By the way, we were hoping to have Ubiquity come on and talk about that lawsuit against the blogger. It looks like for legal reasons, that might be a bit of a challenge. That makes sense. So all we're going to have to do is, like I said, I love the products.

I love the mission. I am hoping for the best when that is all resolved i'm i'm hoping they come away clean i just don't like the optics right now yeah uh by the way before you do more of these there's a couple more topics that i feel like we should probably touch on are you getting through these because you have to go i do have to go okay got it ian says i found out you ride as well how's the new backpack fit on the motorcycle good for my body type and for my bike I have a street bike Bram

says hey Linus with three kids and running LMG floatplane creator warehouse how do you keep yourself mentally sane with the life you're living and giving it everything you have do you think your lifestyle is sustainable thanks for all the videos and there might have been more to this but it got cut off I have a lot of help, guys. That's the thing.

It's like Luke runs Floatplane. I don't run Floatplane. Nick runs Creator Warehouse. I don't run Creator Warehouse. Right? What about LMG? We've got Yvonne and Colton. We've got James.

We've got Ed. We've got all of these people who are running these departments. If anything, I actually think the team has really stepped up in a big way in the last six months to make my life way more manageable. I mean, there's always going to be crazy days. We did a collab with Call Me Chris yesterday, where I was, there's 400 minutes of footage. And I was in front of the camera for probably 11 hours. It's a challenging day for sure. Like it's not like I'm, you know, not still, not still going for it, but guys, I have a ton of support and, you know, I have to give myself, um, and Yvonne credit for building a team to support

us for having the foresight to do that but that doesn't take anything away from the actual efforts of the people actually doing it uh this is not it's not just me and yeah i i think i think that what i'm doing is sustainable for some time i'm excited i'm actually really pumped right now uh screwdriver backpack some of the other products that we have coming labs um we you know i think i read a comment on floatplane that really it hit me so hard that i i blasted it out to the entire company uh calling what we've been doing lately the golden age of ltd and considering how many times i've seen our community claim that we are in the golden age, honestly, I'm energized.

I'm starting to feel like the golden age never ends. Golden decade. Like, why stop here? Why don't we just make it more golden? Bring on the Xbox controllers. That might not have been golden age content. Maybe no more of those. I'm ready boys anonymous

says what part of the tech space really needs more competition to create better products and more innovation man CPU GPU looking pretty good right now what else we got I feel like I've had this thought I like it

yeah sure okay I feel like I've had this thought. Printers. I like it. Yeah, sure. Okay. I feel like I've had this thought recently, but I can't remember what. Man, there's so much competition even in streaming gear now. I mean, I'd say that the Linux community is underserved still in a big way,

but I'm expecting that to change with Steam Deck taking off the way that it is. Man, what really needs to improve oh i swear i had the thought of like so and so is using this thing because it is the only option i feel like i had that thought in the last like week but i can't remember what it was vr headsets is one for your headsets definitely, to be completely honest. E-ink display stuff says LADDi. Okay.

Yeah, that's pretty good. I think the VR headsets thing though, I think we're still not completely there. Not crap tablets. Yeah. It's hard for there to be any more competition. Amazon is so dominant in the cheap tablet space.

Yeah. Monitors. There's a lot of great monitors out there, you know? I feel like monitors are doing pretty good. Yeah. There's a lot of innovation in monitors right now man cutie ola uh zachary hey linus any update on the emulator video i'm wondering if you got into soft mods like playing ps2 games over ethernet okay uh we are doing our like part one legal emulation video we actually anthony and i shot the first half of it right before I came over

here for WAN Show. We're going to finish that up on probably Tuesday. And then Anthony is going to be working on the follow-up where we are going to pirate Switch games, but not pirate. Ha ha. It's going to be great. I'm really looking forward to it. We're absolutely still doing it.

Donald says, we regret to inform you we never received payment for our services. Please send $69,420 to the address attached to this order. Haha! I will not fall for your wire fraud again. Alright. Let's go ahead and click show there. I think

that's it for the merch messages today. Thank you guys very much for's it for the merch messages today. Thank you guys very much for tuning in to the WAN show. Thank you very much for your support. I'm actually really curious to know what did better today. What do you think did better? Oh, hold on. One Nick light.

Oh, we didn't. We never checked back on the poll. That's probably what he's calling about. Thank you, Nick. What about the printout? Photocopy. The poll, hey? we are still live uh but just barely what's up oh um somebody tweeted at me so i thought we should correct the record apparently we do get the payout for the gift card at the time that it's sold it's just not listed in literally anything except the actual payout

report which you or i never really look at so apparently we do get that money so yeah rock on that seems a lot more correct okay hey thanks yeah so correcting the record thanks nick all right bye-bye cool let's go ahead and have a look at what the audience thinks. Black and white winning by a solid 18% according to this deeply flawed system. So we'll see. So let's see. Let's see what won. Okay, can I get a bet? What won, the eggs or the waffles?

Eggs or the waffles? I think I'll go with egg. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The bleeping eggshell shirt. I would wear this one. It's doing solid.

But. For the memes. You gotta bet on the memes. For the memes. Always bet on memes. Yeah. Doge to the moon. I don't own any Doge moon I don't own any doge

I don't need doge I had no intention to take a position in doge thank you very much I will take a position in thanking you for tuning into the show and telling you

I'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye you know we haven't missed a WAN show together in like a long time almost three years I think

whoa I didn't realize it was that long you know what's low key like a top selling item on the store now cable ties long time. Almost three years, I think. Whoa. I didn't realize it was that long. You know what's low-key, like a top-selling item on the store now? Cable ties. You told me that last week. Yeah, we sold over 5,000 cable ties today. Today?

Individual ties. Individual ties. Individual ties. Alright, show's over, ladies and gentlemen. What are you still doing here? I told you the show's over. Get out!. What are you still doing here? Get out! Get out right now! And the whole thing demonetized.