The WAN Show - Apple Ditches Butterfly Keyboard Switch - WAN Show July 5, 2019

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

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Welcome to the WEN show ladies and gentlemen! It's pre-recorded this week because we have no idea what's going on. Not a clue! We're having a tremendous afternoon. You know the craziest thing about today is that we actually pressed go for the first time on time. Oh yeah. And I don't remember the last time that happened it's been a while and then after 35 minutes of trying to put the streaming services swapping

Ethernet cables changing encoding settings we just we can't we can't push any more notifications to YouTube because YouTube won't deliver them to you and we just we have no choice we have no choice there's nothing that we can do oh my goodness please tell me that this isn't live uh okay i'm just yep cool i'm just gonna set these unlisted and i'm just gonna call them broken stream broken streams broken dreams perfect all of them best title best title 10 out of. Ten out of ten. Ten out of ten. Viral hit. Yeah, oh yeah. This is the new cat video. Yeah, there's just there's nothing I can do about this at this point. No, we do have for when you guys do see this. Oh good! Oh good! The last one just went published went public on the channel.

Brilliant. I love it. Thank you. Thank you, YouTube. Appreciate this. Don't know what's going wrong. It's great because the YouTube diagnostic was green. Oh, yeah. It's like, everything's fine.

Stream health was green. Oh, don't worry about it. OBS, all green. Everything green. Yep. No problems here. Yep. So great.

So we just used up one, two, three, I think four YouTube notifications, which I believe is our daily limit. So WAN show basically won't get viewed this week because algorithmic view serving rather than just pinging people when we ask. Although maybe they're saving us from ourselves today because we just notified people four times in 15 minutes yeah anyway we've got a great show for you guys today a lot of good stuff um my phone only got one your phone only got one if it helps yeah well hopefully um uh should we restart this no no no we got this we've already restarted like four or five times, so whatever. So we're going to, the first big topic of today is, of course, Apple bailing, reportedly, on the butterfly keyboard that they've been using in their MacBook Pros.

Finally. Finally. So the original article here is from MacRumors.com. We're going to go ahead and fire that up. There you go. Apple to use new scissor switch keyboard in future MacBooks, starting with the 2019 MacBook Air refresh.

Wow, that could actually make the 2019 MacBook Air like the notebook to buy, assuming that they managed to put a quad core processor in it this time. Yeah. I'd be pretty stoked on that. That goes against our notes in the doc, which is interesting, because it said the keyboard will likely not be ready for this year's lineup and will be used in the MacBook Pro,

but not until 2020. Fascinating. But they're rumors. So either way, sounds like hopefully Apple is moving away from the butterfly keyboard. Yeah, your mileage may vary on these rumors, of course. Yeah. So again, the rumor is that the new scissor switch can improve the typing experience by offering a longer key travel. What?

No. No! What? Nobody was asking. You know what I wonder? That's not how keyboards work. You know what I really wonder? Was Apple trying to pave the way for a haptic screen switch?

I could see it, judging by a lot of the stuff they've been developing. Yeah, yeah. Didn't they kind of feel feel kind of like a sharp, short, almost like a force touch feel? Yeah. And their force touch is actually very good. It's amazing. Or a 3D touch or whatever

the difference is between those two. Is that even that crazy? When you look at the way the average person... No, I would believe that. The average person doesn't touch type even. So if you're just Joee average and they went and they put the they put the uh the touch bar in they went and they put these switches that are sort of i mean they're in between lots of travel and no travel whatsoever am i boring you sorry no no no it's okay i know i know you're just tired yeah um anyway sorry that's neither here nor there.

So anyway, the new Scissor Switch can improve typing experience by offering a longer key travel. Cheaper to make, but won't be as cheap as an average keyboard. Apparently the butterfly does have the advantage of being very thin, which, of course, nobody was really asking for. Yeah, I don't think that's been... The whole design industry has been so obsessed with making

phones and laptops thinner. And, like, it really doesn't matter past a certain point. They've been as thin as I've needed them to be for a few years now. Yeah, like, things were too clunky. There's pictures you can find of laptops that are, like, clearly too thick.

But, yeah, I don't know. At a certain point, it doesn't matter so much anymore. When you can fit it in a file folder with like ease, it's like, okay. Yeah, it's probably good enough. Oh, man. YouTube chat is still going. This is so simple. It's their damn net. Why is this so hard to understand?

They have a switcher router down or their upstream is getting hosed so while we were dropping frames we measured what was it 600 megabit up or something stupid like that off of the streaming computer so no no that weren't it unfortunately yeah i i genuinely have no clue what this could possibly be millisecond pings and 600 megabit up while we were still streaming. So, no, that's fine. Like, we're actually pretty stumped. Usually, like, a diagnostic process could just be do everything over again and then it'll maybe work. And you won't necessarily know what was broken, but it'll maybe work. But we've done that, like, quite a few times.

And we also don't have time to do that right now when the show is supposed to be going live right now. So we appreciate your suggestions, but unfortunately they weren't really applicable this time. No. I kind of want to just ditch this computer again because I think it's haunted. That's the only possible explanation at this point in time

is that that computer is haunted. I made a joke uh last week i think it was yeah which is where like i should just bring my computer in every friday we just stream off of that but like at this point i bet you it would work the crazy thing again like i i like i was i was afraid to like i didn't want to blame it on the network i could blame it on the network cable that was running around the office because we're talking 20 meters another 40 another 20 like you're getting kind of close and we're going through a switch although that theoretically should reset the 100 meter limit sort of ish i think anyway it's not an amazing it's not an amazing switch and i was having an issue with

an ethernet uh port in the set earlier this week. So I was like, okay, maybe there's a bad switch. So we ran a cable directly to the server room, which is not into a bad switch. That's into like a $4,000 switch. It's a little bit of a sketchy cable. It's not a great cable. But it looks like it's working just fine. Yeah, and we had the exact same issue either way. So I didn't want to blame the network because the StreamCart streams fine.

But that, yeah. That's why I've been saying to this computer. I've been mentioning the StreamCart streaming fine for a while now. So, but then the direct connection, that didn't fix it. So it's haunted. It's haunted hardware.

That's the only possible explanation for it but it's been haunted for like six years speaking of haunted uh in other news this week three florida towns are apparently infected by ransomware so uh this was posted originally on arstechnica.com. Let's go ahead and pull the article up here. Florida land. Someone clicks link again. Giving key Biscayne? Biscayne?

I don't know. Key Biscayne? Ransomware. Triple threat commodity malware attack seizes computers of yet another Florida town. This is like ransomware is honestly the smartest thing the black hat community ever came up with because compared to other attacks it is so easy to deploy and is so profitable like it is so lucrative I mean compared to you know if you were let's say hypothetically you were to deploy something like a medium

sized botnet okay in order to deploy that it's relatively straightforward you have to get someone to click on a compromised link approve running a compromised executable or some kind of script on a web page or something like that. And basically, for all intents and purposes, they are a part of your swarm, right? Sure. Does it go about like that? Sure.

All right. So then from there, monetizing the swarm is the next step because just infecting people's computers, unless you just want to watch the world burn, doesn't have a nickels and dimes benefit. Yeah. So, okay, ways to monetize a swarm. You might mine cryptocurrency on your swarm. But you'll probably have to do it in relatively low amounts, because you'd have to mine fairly slowly because you don't want people to reformat the computers or go get them fixed or whatever.

Or whatever the case may be. So really the key to a good infection is the user not knowing that they are infected. So mining cryptocurrency is an option. In that, if you want to buy it, yeah. You could fraudulently click on banner ads or YouTube advertising or whatever else. So you could conduct like a click fraud operation. You could... Farm keystrokes.

Farm keystrokes, okay, yeah, right. You could sell data, all right? So you could find these individuals that have, so you could key log them. So you could find when they've logged into something, you could go, okay, let's go try that and just kind of, I'm sure there's an AI that you could find when they've logged into something, you could go, okay, let's go try that. And just kind of, I'm sure there's an AI that you could use to kind of try to identify. Yeah, you just log like, okay, they're on this page.

And they entered these two things into these fields. Sounds good. There you go. So you could farm user data. And then from there, you could commit identity theft or there's a variety of other things. You could just get straight into people's bank accounts, transfer funds out of them. So that can be pretty lucrative. But you've got to, the point is that once a computer is infected, you have to come up with something.

But yeah, also in that category, you have to transfer funds out of those bank accounts to another bank account all in like whatever. I don't remember what the term for it is, but like. Fiat currency. Fiat currency. Fiat currency, yes. So that's a little bit tough because it's quite traceable. Ransomware, by contrast, is just brilliant because... You're getting people to pay you directly. You only have to get, theoretically, as few as one computer infected with it.

It's just as easy to roll out as something like a key logger uh if you basically if you can get anyone to run an executable and click through the prompts on their computer i mean that that's it you can talk all day mac pc uh you know chrome firefox it doesn't matter once you get someone to execute a file and then blitz through the security prompts on their computer which most users will just do without looking at them. Yeah, they're infected. And an individual could pay hundreds of dollars to unlock their computer because at least with, you know, one of those other types of infections, you can you can cut off the problem at the source by just unplugging it from the internet or formatting the PC or

whatever like it's something that can relatively easily be fixed with ransomware at least with the more sophisticated ones you just don't have your data and yeah you can reformat your computer but say goodbye to all your childhood photos or whatever else it is that you store on your computer so an average person would probably pay two three hundred bucks to get that stuff back well okay not probably there's there's a very high percentage chance that an average person might be interested or there might be things on that computer that are worth two to three hundred bucks to them so they're it's a it's a decent amount to try to charge a random but if you know that

you happen to get like a municipality or a city or a bank or like some big entity like that you can charge potentially way more apparently um first town palm beach county yeah no idea six hundred thousand dollars is to be paid and second was paid oh lake city florida is also going to be paying about 42 bitcoin which is about 460 000 usd up whenever this was written because that price changes all the time but 42 bitcoin and then the third town uh key biscayne got no notice about ransom uh most of their networks apparently got back up within four days after being infected, but all of them were hit by the same method,

a city employee clicking on a malicious email. Yikes. That's pretty rough. Big yikes. In other news, Vodafone UK switches on 5G service with unlimited data plan. So the original article here was from the BBC Let's go ahead and fire that up Live in five cities in the UK boom switches on in seven UK cities so

In spite of all the concerns that people have about the safety of 5g um not just with respect to like the the the rf you know like effects on their body or whatever else what are you what are you looking at oh i was i was looking at my wrist oh Oh. Oh. Yeah. Sorry. I thought I was. Have you been exposed to 5G, sir? Yeah, I know. Are you okay? I've got the 5G rash. Are you healthy? Same way for me.

Yeah, I forgot. So I was hydro dipping. Oh, cool. So I just, no, it's just paint on my arm. So sorry, I had a bit of a panic moment there. So anyway, the concerns about 5G are not just with respect to the effects of the the waves on the human body um yeah it's taking down weather satellites and that's the other one there's crazy stuff so it apparently interferes with uh weather forecasting or at

least could interfere with weather forecasting not that it's accurate anyways all right well yeah but like i'm talking more than just like 70% chance of rain or whatever. I'm talking like hurricane warnings apparently could be affected by this. So it's a very serious issue, Luke, and I think you should just grow up a little bit. The weatherman said I would have more snow this year, and I didn't. Some upset. It's weather predictor, weather correspondent, not weatherman. Oh.

Okay? What year is it? i think you need to not just grow up but also get with the times oh my goodness i'm so sorry oh man okay in other news did you what's up train oh we do like it's broken pressure no it's like a pressure situation oh okay okay um in other in other news did you see the dumbest thing on the internet of all time actually nick i'll let you jump in before i get into this i haven't watched your most recent video yet i still wanted to do that thing yeah yeah yeah i already sent you the thing yeah yeah, yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it during the sponsor spots. Cool. This is the best show.

Okay. It's the greatest. The greatest. It's the most amazing show. The greatest. So this was trending on Twitter last night, and I don't usually weigh in on political discussion on the WAN show, but this just made me so mad it could turn my hair red. And that's a joke to do with it.

Anyway, so there was a trending hashtag over the last couple of days. Hashtag not my Ariel. Because a dark-skinned actress has been cast to play Ariel in the live-action Little Mermaid movie. Okay. And I just couldn't even. I just couldn't even. I see why that's a joke now. Yeah, so, yeah.

So, basically, white people were mad that Ariel is not white. I don't, yeah, I don't get it, really. I don't know why anyone cares. So the argument's getting made, and this is why I wanted to bring this up. This is the part of the show that's just sort of off topic now. So the argument that was getting made was that it's not true to the original content.

And that's kind of where i was going with this it's just it's a news flash for everyone uh racist or otherwise the disney movie is rarely if ever yeah the original source material yeah yeah they're usually based on like fairy, fairy tales, which came way before that. Cinderella? A lot older than 1950 or 60-whatever. You know, the Sleeping Beauty? Because there's, like, there's interesting ones where, you know, the Harry Potter and the, what is it, Cursed Child or something? Yeah, I haven't read that.

Oh. Don't bother, hey? Probably not. Bummer. I went to go see read that. Oh. Don't bother, hey? Probably not. Bummer. I went to go see the play. Yeah. Was that any good? Which was actually, the production was amazing.

Oh. The playhouse that it was in was fantastic. I think the actors did a very good job. And how they used the production house and the effects and everything were great, etc. But I was actually a little confused when it first started. I didn't recognize Hermione. Because she's not white. I didn't get that. Once someone refers to her as Hermione, I'm like,

okay. And then proceeded to not care. Figured out the internet cared a lot. But something that got brought up is apparently JK Rowling has said that she was never intended to be white. Really? And that she was actually supposed to be African.

Sure. Of more equatorial, that continent descent. I can't keep up with what the terms are. Yeah. I give up. And I read that and went, okay. And moved on. Internet, not okay with this.

Apparently in one of the books it specifies that she is white. So when you told me the Ariel thing, that's why my reaction was like, because now I'm wondering, it's like maybe in one of the fairy tales. Doth it be used? Your face happens to be pearlescent. I don't know. I have no idea. But like, maybe?

I don't know. Anyway, the long and the short of it is I'm never clicking on a trending hashtag again. Because they never matter. And I'm sorry that I ever did, because Twitter is the ultimate illustration of everything that is wrong with the mainstream internet. Twitter gives everyone a voice, and quite frankly, not everyone deserves one. The thing that just drives me nuts is, like, that's actually the least important thing I've heard of in so long.

It's like the skin color of the character who plays Ariel. It's like, wow! Can we address the bigger issue here? The skin color of the character who plays Ariel Can we address the bigger issue here that the live-action remakes of the old Disney classic cartoons are the most blatant garbage Crab yes of our time. Yes. They are worse than gaming movies I'm actually gonna take that stance really defend it. Okay. Have you seen um, have you seen Hitman? No, actually. It's actually Okay It's okay. Yeah, okay. I get really triggered about the Warcraft movie because the amount of inaccuracies and like why the heck is it live action?

Yeah, like the orcs, the orcs were never intended to be green They were. Red! There's some that are. Anyways, the Warcraft movie, it drives me nuts because Blizzard is insanely good at making animated cinematics. And they always have been. And then there's a live action movie and everyone's like, what? What were you thinking?

Play to your strengths, ladies and gentlemen, please. And they, like, change part of the story and all this kind of stuff. But if you went in there never knowing anything about Warcraft, it's actually probably pretty decent. Like, there's some... I think a lot of people are going to take issue with that in the comments, but please, go on. Why?

I just think they will. I haven't seen the movie. You told me not to watch it, so I never watched it. Oh, I wouldn't bother. Exactly. Yeah, I wouldn't bother. Exactly. Okay. But, like, I think gaming movies are at the very least getting better. And, like, Hitman I thought was okay for a plane movie.

I didn't feel like I wasted my time. Got it. Okay. And I feel like every live-action Disney movie is going to be a waste of time. So here is, I guess, you know what? I've challenged you to defend that, but I actually don't disagree with you. Because to me, what I'm glad you brought up was whether it was a waste of time or not. So that is exactly my issue with the Disney live action remakes.

So I only watched part of uh beauty and the beast not because i wasn't in the room the whole time but because my attention was super not focused on it because it was very very boring so at least this is the live action version yeah at least with most video game movies that i've seen they at least try to put a spin on the story and or the characters or just use the original story and characters of the game as a as a jumping off point and do something completely different as long as it's not made by i don't remember how to say his first name but yeah i'd like i don't i can't think of a video game movie that tries to just steal the plot of one of the games but just make it a movie

remember the old Final Fantasy movie? That was, yeah, it was nothing like any of the games. No, not even close. But it's good. In fact, I would have made the argument that that just shouldn't have been called Final Fantasy anything, because it was just completely off topic.

I would agree. Yeah. But it's good. But it's still, it's, okay. But going back to the Disney live action movies, they just, it's, in some cases, it's even the same bloody songs. Like they didn't even, they didn't, they didn't, they didn't do anything original. Like, okay, it's reimagined.

Seems like they throw expensive actors at it. Oh yeah, because they know they're going to make a billion dollars. And they know the names of the actors will help them make ludicrous amounts of money. So this is a, it's, and that's my problem with it is like, I feel like my time is being wasted because I'm being told the exact same story in the exact same way with the exact same songs. And I'm somehow supposed to get over the fact that Hermione Granger is Belle for whatever reason. And French, I guess. And I just can't, I just, I don't get it. And so to me, it just looks like it's entirely a bean counter decision. So someone went, okay, we can do a remastering of The Lion King.

Now on Blu-ray in 3D with some DVD extras and behindd extras and behind the scenes and we can do a big campaign we can do a theatrical release and we can print ourselves 150 million dollars or whatever years later interviews or we can do this we can spend twice as much we can spend 300 million dollars but we know we're gonna get 900 million one and a half billion. We know what the return is because we can just take it almost as a straight up formula. We just go, okay, here's the year of the original release, here's what it grossed, here's what the overall, because they thought, I'm sure they have figures

for all this, here's what the overall merchandising numbers were like, so here's how many adult humans today with children exist that loved this movie. Yeah. And they can just draw a freaking trend line through it and go okay yeah. Cool. So that one's worth about 1.15 billion if we put the Disney machine to work and pump out all this stuff around it that's gonna cost us about 350 million so we could either spend you know 5 million redoing the same movie or 10 million or whatever you're adding 3d um and get our 150

million or we could take a bigger risk but it's not a risk no and we could generate a much bigger return let's work on that instead so that's why we saw one of these things and now there's an explosion because like oh yeah it worked for sure let's just do it again and i was never that into beauty and the beast so i it didn't offend me even if i didn't particularly enjoy the live action thing like i was just bored because it was like this is the same movie yeah but now instead of the because i i love animated movies i was gonna say some things are better and some things are better animated some things lend themselves like warcraft imagination better when they're animated

how to train your dragon wouldn't be as good a film if it wasn't animated no um neither would the incredibles no and no and so i just i i wasn't like offended but i actually just found out apparently they're working on live action Mulan and that kind of annoyed me. Because, and we had a big debate in the office today about which is a better Disney film, Mulan or Hercules. Do you want to weigh in on that? Did you ever see either of them? Okay. It's been a wild amount of time since I've seen either and an exceptionally wild amount of time since I've seen either, and an exceptionally wild amount of time since I've seen Mulan. But probably Mulan?

I mean, there's no right answer. I mean, no one would agree with you if you said Hercules, other than David. Okay. Yeah, but, like, anyway. But, like, it's been a very long time. I only just found out they're doing a live-action one of that, and I'm just like, what were you aiming to fix? And if you weren't aiming to fix anything,

because that wasn't even that old of a movie. It's like 1996 or 98 or something. I guess that was a while ago. It's pretty old. It's pretty old. It's like over 20 years old. Was I really 10? It's quite over 20 years old. Shh. Was I really 10? It's quite a while ago.

Hold on a second. Oh, man. 98. Yeah, it's 21 years ago. Darn it. Darn it. All right. So sorry when you guys actually watch this live.

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All right. So what else do we have for the show today? It's actually a nuts deal. We got a little bit off topic there. Just a little bit. How did we get there? Talking about keyboard switches? I don't know.

I got super mad because like, honestly, it consumed a lot of my time because I just, it was one of those things where I couldn't look away from the stupid and I was just. Oh,

right, the Twitter topic. Yeah, I was like just scrolling my phone like a zombie until I finally went, whoa, enough internet for today.

But I think, I think that's the whole, oh man, we got to knock it, caught on this even longer, but I think that's the whole... Oh, man. We got to not get caught on this even longer. But I think that's the whole problem with those types of issues and why they start trending. Because you're like, oh, goodness. And then people weigh in after feeling that. Right.

Instead of just scrolling forever like you did. They'll weigh in and then scroll forever. And then wait for people to reply to them. And then they'll reply to those people. And this whole thing that should have never mattered at all is now trending on Twitter. Is now trending on Twitter. It's madness. Fantastic.

Speaking of madness, Trump is apparently to lift some restrictions on Huawei. The original article here is from Engadget.com. Let's go ahead and pull that up. He verbally stated that U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei during a G20 summit in Japan. Not clear which companies are allowed to do business in Huawei. Not clear exactly what hardware either because he said they can sell hardware that doesn't have a great national emergency problem. And they're still on the Commerce Department's entities list, which is like a big issue if you want to sell anything to them. But he's verbally said that you can.

So I don't think anyone knows what this really means. Huawei has apparently scaled back phone production since the ban was announced due to the loss of official Android support and other partnerships. And as much as I'd love to say that this means everyone can go back to business as usual that is often not the case when it comes to random off-the-cuff statements yeah from this particular leader of the free world so we just thought we'd say hey something was said might happen it might mean something don't know stuff uh nvidia's super

graphics cards are out and the word on the street uh this is according to videocards.com is that in response to nvidia's super launch of the rtx 2060 super rtx 2070 Super, and RTX 2080 Super, AMD is going to lower pricing of their Radeon RX 5700 series ahead of the launch. So they had already announced pricing, if I recall correctly. Yes, they did for their new Navi series, and I don't believe they have announced what the new pricing will be. So right now it's a bit of a mystery, and they're really cutting it close to the wire here, aren't they?

Because the launch is in two days, and incidentally, that two days time frame happens to land us on a Sunday which means that all of their partners like you know stores where people might buy these graphics cards might not have their business administration staff in the office and I guess this opens up to a pretty sort of Not a rant but into a Grievance that I guess this is an opportunity for me to air AMD needs to stop launching their products on weekends

Today we received not what yeah, you know what? I don't know. I mean, everyone knows what's launching and when it's launching. Today we received not one, but two last minute updates that affect both of the launches. And for that reason, we have multiple people on staff here that are being forced to come in on the weekend

in order to get our videos done on time. It's not right, it's not fair, and it's completely unnecessary. There's a reason why a huge amount of industries release things on Tuesdays. You dodge holidays in a huge amount of countries that you might not have planned for on purpose because one country might have a Monday off for whatever reason. So you're fine in terms of long weekends and you have a big part of the week ahead of you to fix things within standard hours for the whole industry, whether it's the person selling your product to end users, whether it's your side offering support, et cetera, et cetera. You have the meat of the week ahead of you, and you don't have problems of long weekends so instead AMD and their board

partners have probably been scrambling last-minute to get you know something with POS rebates or other kinds of support issued to their their reseller partners in order to make sure that their pricing is competitive um and so yeah it's just it's one of those things that i wouldn't even mind if it wasn't so unnecessary amd could have easily launched this on a different day of the week a few days was not going to affect the overall impact of of this launch you know if their advertised performance claims are anything to go by um it's just rude i just don't get the point what benefit is there and the thing too is like amd might have thought well we're going to be ready well enough ahead of time that it's not going to be a problem but they should really just know themselves a little better at this point this

is the second time they've dropped a driver update on us on a Friday before a weekend launch in three launches. So like, guys, know your own limitations. You are never ready on time. So with that in mind, plan to not be ready on time and to be sending out

last minute stupid emails about everything that's changed the night before and so that there's some kind of a contingency for all the people that are reliant on you keeping to your word and keeping to your schedule or at the very least Not keeping to your word and not keeping to your schedule, but at least having some kind of plan So it's really really frustrating to your schedule, but at least having some kind of plan. So it's really, really frustrating. Speaking of which, apparently the re-recordings that I need to do

for one of those videos is ready, so I might just have to cut this WAN show a little bit short so I can get that done here. Is there anything else that you had really wanted to talk about today? The Amazon thing is not that interesting. We can run through it real quick if you want. We can do it really fast, sure. There's a question. Should Amazon be held liable for third-party seller of products?

The U.S. Appeals Court ruled that Amazon can be held accountable for faulty third-party sales. Third-party sellers selling either defective or dangerous products, items, includes items not directly sold or fulfilled by Amazon. There's a lot of sellers on Amazon. I actually kind of wish there wasn't or I wish it was a little bit more obvious. It's not that apparent. That you're buying from some random. Yeah. Yeah, they do They do communicate it. Yeah, but it's not Kind of blasted to you. Yeah, and it's really annoying when it happens Because a big part of the reason why at least I shop on Amazon is because I know I'm dealing with Amazon

Yeah, and I'm actually not that interested in shopping on Amazon to deal with other groups if I wanted to shop on some random website with products that might be sketchy or crappy, I would go to a website that specializes in products that might not have been imported correctly or might not adhere to the same safety standards that someone like Amazon would have to make sure that they are. So apparently nearly half the items sold on Amazon are through third-party sellers. Wow, I actually had no idea. I had no clue either.

That's kind of wild. I wonder if that means half the listings. Yeah, I have no idea. Not the actual volume. I bet you it's listings, not volume. Yeah, because the volume would have to be... In order for it to be half of the items like half of the packages sent like the vast majority of listings would have to be non Amazon listings because I'm sure Amazon

watches for anything with high volume stocks yeah yeah Amazon basic yeah now we have our own version. Ha-ha. Amazon basics butt plug. Give it time. I was going to say one day. There's been no comment by Amazon yet. So the origin of the case was apparently a gal by the name of Heather Oberdorf, who sued the company in federal court back in 2016 when a retractable dog leash snapped and whipped back at her, causing permanent loss of vision in her left eye Whoa, so the lower court will rule on whether the leash itself was defective

But that's where this whole debate seems to have come from right? So that's it for the land show this week Oh, we do have a blog post from you guys over at LTX expo.com site. This is coming up so soon 22 days we've got a BYOC update, here is the seat selection, dreamhack.com slash ticket slash LTX 19. So if you haven't chosen your seat yet, now is the time! Registration updates. When you arrive at the Vancouver Convention Center, please visit the registration desks

located in the lobby area first. This is where we will scan your ticket and give you a wristband that is specific to your ticket type. Make sure you keep your wristband on for the whole weekend, by the way, if you have a multi-day ticket. We don't have replacements. Straight up. These are the registration hours.

And note that registration is open a day early and early on Saturday if you want to come in and pick up your wristband ahead of time. Highly recommend if you have a BYOC ticket. Do it. If you haven't bought your ticket yet, go to dh.je.ltx19 to check it out, and here's the map.

Woo! See you soon. Super cool. I'm so excited. All right, so that's it for the WAN Show this week. Thanks for watching, guys. We'll see you again next time. Same bad time, same bad channel, hopefully without any streaming issues.

You should make a video of just like redoing it. Fixing the land. We've done that. Do it again.