The WAN Show - Apple HULK SMASHES the Competition - WAN Show April 23, 2021

Episode Date: April 26, 2021

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with obviously the big headline topic being Apple's event this week. They went and they, I mean, it's like their entire corporate strategy is put an M1 in it. They went, they put M1 chips in. Whoa, what is that? Stop, please. Ah, terrible. Sorry about that. They put an M1 in pretty much everything. And we're going to talk through what that means, not just for their products, but also for potentially the environment. We did a little video this week on product repairability and right to repair. And putting M1s and things definitely has an impact on that.

We're also going to talk about the, no, we're not going to talk about that. Ah, yes, the Project xCloud beta that rolled out on iOS and PC that makes Project xCloud an even more compelling option than it was already for those of you out there who are still struggling to get a graphics card. And what else we got, Luke? We have some non-news topics as well, talking about how Linus brought go-karts home for his kids, which sounds amazing. I'm going to tell you all about them. They're so cool.

You got to come over and try them sometime. Anyway, carry on. And that Linus might be building a PC with a basketball star? Yes. Oh, I am so excited to talk about that. Okay, yeah, we're going to have a great show for you guys today. And let's go ahead and roll that intro. and the show is brought to you today by private internet access ridge wallet and see sonic why don't we jump right into our first topic of the day and that is of course apple's fall 420 event now i think that um what do you want to start with

luke do you want to start with their tile competitor the air tags tracker or the apple refresh i think the the tile competitor thing is almost it almost its own topic entirely due to the friction that they're having with, what is the even other brand? Tile. Tile, yes. The friction they're having with tile. So maybe let's leave that off and do the slew of M1 products. All right. So, man, this iPad Pro.

Now, Luke, have you ever owned a tablet in your life? No. Have you ever had any desire to own a tablet in your life? Nope. Okay. Stop looking at the specs. Stop looking at the specs. Close your eyes and imagine this. Okay. It's a 12.9 inch display. Okay. So this is a freaking, this is a big tablet. Okay. It's big enough for like real man hands. All right. Okay. It's got a type C port on the bottom, but we already had that. Okay. We already had that on the iPad pro, but get this, the type C port is freaking Thunderbolt.

Okay. That's pretty sick. Okay. So we've got a Thunderbolt iPad. Okay, now let me tell you about the CPU, or rather the SoC. Apple, they went and they put the same M1 processor from their recent MacBook Pro and MacBook Air. They went, they threw it in an iPad. And for all the jokes that we made about the new M1 MacBooks being basically iPads with keyboards and without touchscreens,

the M1 processor... That is a very good thing going in this direction. It's a very good thing going in both directions. It was never meant to mean that iPad Pros were not fast. It was meant to mean that, okay, these devices are obviously converging here, and that has come to fruition. We have an M1-equipped iPad Pro. Now, here's the kicker, okay?

Imagine this in a mobile device, a thousand nit backlit screen, 1600 nits peak brightness with 2,500 local dimming zones. Okay. You can open your eyes now. You can open your eyes. Okay. I don't actually fully understand why they were closed. They were closed so you could imagine better. Okay. I appreciate the experience regardless. So this iPad, which starts at, what does it start at? Like $900 or something like that. Can't remember the pricing. Doesn't matter. The point is this iPad will be probably the fastest computing device in your household when it comes to single-threaded

or even lightly threaded tasks. It will have the fastest connectivity in your household with a 40 gigabit per second connection that you could use for, I mean, it runs iPadOS. So I wouldn't necessarily expect that you're gonna be hooking up like your audio interface to it anytime soon, but who knows what the future is going to hold?

At least the capability is there now. But you could definitely hook up something like a Pro Display XDR 6K external display with, you know, a USB hub for all your peripherals. Use the thing as a freaking, you know, iPadOS freaking desktop. And, and get this, it will probably be the best hdr content viewing experience in your

household in the range of a thousand dollars so yes an ipad is an expensive device for a tablet which to me the utility is would you buy one very limited i mean we're talking like what would you use a tablet for like watching porn in bed it's the best device for that well it is come on i'm not gonna actually maybe not because vr headsets exist but oh come on it's up there you're not gonna have a vr headset in your oh i guess they've got the standalone ones okay that's fair i guarantee you people do i guarantee okay you know what i take your guarantee i will see your guarantee and raise you two guarantees. I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

I just mean... Okay, yeah, VR headset. Okay, fine. It's up there though. I will give it that. Okay, okay. It's the best device for watching Netflix on the couch while your SO is watching something else on the TV.

And if you have the kind of disposable income that you can buy a device that is dedicated to that, then the iPad has got you covered. But with these changes, now it's so much more because, okay, you can't use the last gen magic keyboard but if you add a magic keyboard now all of a sudden it's a fold-out little laptop thing that also you can disconnect it's basically a convertible but with extra steps and that display a thousand nits full

screen brightness luke this is real hdr yeah what why can't you use the previous keyboard i don't know because what's the possible limitation there like that's so ridiculous i mean it's like a little thicker so like i don't know maybe there's a physical compatibility that could possibly have been overcome by the billions and billions of dollars that apple spends on rd of course yes that's possible oh that that that part just annoys me but maybe it is like yeah maybe there's some shape issues or something i don't know but yeah i mean we haven't been hands-on with it yet but okay so so now that now that we've talked through that this thing is barely even an iPad anymore. Could you possibly be compelled to use it? To use it? Yes.

Sure. Okay. To pay almost anything for it? No. Almost anything. Okay. A hundred bucks. Probably not. Are you serious?

Well, if I could flip it. A hundred. Guaranteed. That's not what i'm asking i wouldn't use it so like it's it's not the fact that it's a really good deal it doesn't matter because i don't think i would ever use what about for gaming you don't have a single other ios device in hold on you bear with me now sir okay okay you don't have a game that you want to play you don't have a single other ios device in your house so why not for gaming like you could play compelling exclusives like fantasia and i don't know if they have any other ones i feel like pulling out a viva la dirt league

just like keyboard slamming someone over the head and be like no one games on max like i don't know i don't have no idea like what like no i'm i'm good i have i have plenty of devices in this house that i can play games on um and what what a terrible buying a tablet for gaming no but it has thunderbolt thousand dollars it has thunderbolt so you can connect it to anything. But you're still running iPadOS. Yeah, but like... Yeah, but what? That's horrible. Okay, hold on. When's the last time you used iPadOS?

It's been a long time. Okay, okay. Didn't you have an iPad quite a while ago at your house or something? I still have an iPad 2 at my house. Yeah, that was probably it that ipad was probably the last so ipad os has changed a lot it does support keyboard and mouse properly what do you play on it no no no no i don't mean from like a gaming standpoint even

i just mean you can just like use a keyboard and mouse on it so if you were just word processing doing whatever oh oh oh there you could use it for um uh i believe the update came oh shoot who are those guys that we worked with that have a um uh it's not parsec but it's another kind of similar thing but i'm pretty sure parsec probably has it working so you could stream games to your ipad if you're just like on the couch or whatever um so you can do it to a laptop yeah you could do that to a laptop yes which i have which you have already but your laptop doesn't have an hdr display on it with 1600 nit peak brightness okay so you could hdr game not that any of those game streaming services support hdr yet anyway but at some point they might um escapement Dog says an iPad is... But, I mean, as Marques tweeted on Twitter,

you don't buy things for software promises down the line. So I would not get it for that reason. Escapement Dog says an iPad is great for reading digital magazines. No, don't care. I'm sorry, Escapement Dog. That was not going to work. You're a Floatplane subscriber, and so I'm not going to be too rude to you

because thank you very much, but are you for real? What magazines? Do people read magazines? What generation are you in? But seriously, thank you very much for being a Floatplane subscriber. Yes, appreciate it. Thanks for supporting um okay okay

okay sky scan r says i have an ipad mini for my drone that is a great application for the mini we're not talking about the mini but hey cool that's great and you don't need any of the features or to spend anywhere near as much again though if it's at that 100 discounted price and i cared sure okay but i still i still don't j2vl says rainway rainway was the one i'm talking about where you could keyboard mouse game on an ipad streaming from your gaming pc uh apocalyptic on apocalyptic on three says linus puts way more value in hdr than i think the average person does the average person doesn't put a lot of value in hdr because the average person hasn't experienced hdr properly hdr is a big difference maker i mean luke now that you have an hdr tv

would you go back well i mean i would but it's a fantastic feature i like it a lot um it's very noticeable when you're playing hdr content it is very nice and you can really tell when you're watching content content. You are such a cheap piece of shit. I just can't even. It is very nice, and you can really tell when you're watching content on the TV that does have HDR. Yeah. Do you remember when you got Floatplane to make it so that HDR content could be played through the website?

Do you remember that? I do. Do you remember when it was super urgent because you guys were going to totally pivot to everything being filmed and uploaded in hdr do you remember that well i remember you guys only uploaded one video in that format and it took like a lot of work i remember a thing like this happening i remember a thing like this happening i can't say that i remember when it happened because my memory doesn't go back that far. It was quite a while ago.

Do you know we're still supporting that? Yes. So, okay. In fairness, we are working on it. Okay. That was actually a somewhat genuine question because I needed to know because we were wondering because we're doing some upgrades and we need to know if we were bringing it. Yeah.

So, yes, we're bringing it along for the the ride ed is still working on the workflow for that so ultimately it's funny but what it comes down to is that floatplane is not getting hdr because adobe and youtube still haven't gotten together and figured out how to have premiere output all the metadata in a format that YouTube can natively understand and accept. Got it. Okay. So that is why. Sounds good. That, my friends, is how you pivot Wanshow into a Flowplane work meeting. Okay, great. Sorry. Do you have any more use cases for the iPhone? Landshark says, I read The Economist. Also, reading books is nice on a tablet.

You know, I can't get into it I can't get into it for me The the galaxy fold was kind of a game changer for me because it was something that I had on me all the time Like I actually read more when I was daily driving a fold speaking of which and also floatplane related Is Jaden ever gonna send back my fold Z2? No, yes, Z Fold 2 or whatever they call the stupid thing i thought he sent that out already okay cool yeah if i can get that back that would be great thanks um so that was a game changer for me but i would never go get a tablet for that if i'm gonna go get a device like i have to actually get up off my hiney i don't have it on me already i gotta go get one i'm gonna go get a

kindle or something with an e-ink display i going to say right when you said I would way rather have an E Ink display. By the way, I saw a really cool project not that long ago. I should have thrown this in the doc actually, but I think it was a few weeks back. I saw a really cool project where someone made a very large, I think it was like a monitor-sized E Ink. He didn't make this. He developed on top of it but he bought this very large like monitor sized ink display vertical mounted on the wall and then had it grab random

newspapers from his area and display them and it looked like super cool and i thought there'd be some other cool things just because you don't read newspapers that you could do with it um ink displays are freaking awesome yeah they're super cool and it's kind of unfortunate that tech hasn't really been going further than e-readers this is great this is from rod uh from bs mods uh give luke a hundred bucks what would he be more likely to buy an ipad pro or a tube tv for retro games oh yeah tube tv for retro games it depends if it's good though you get it you get a killer deal you find a good one yeah yeah neither of those is happening at a hundred dollars if we're being realistic like crappy tube tvs you can get them for free if you're willing to haul them away but

the good ones are actually starting to become like honestly if i had acquired them when they were worth nothing five eight ten years ago and I just stored them in a warehouse warehouse till now, that's probably one of the best investments that I could have made. Like, yeah, those things are going for crazy amounts of money now. Yeah. You know, the operative thing that Rod said, though, was give Luke one hundred dollars and he has to buy one of these two things because I wouldn't buy either of them with my own hundred dollars. Yeah, I get it. to buy one of these two things because I wouldn't buy either of them with my own $100. Yeah, I get it.

Courageous Potato says, it is an unmatched pencil experience besides a Wacom tablet. Yep, that's fair. If you are actually into sketching and whatnot, there is a lot you can do as an artist with an iPad. So you want to have like a mobile photography workstation. Absolutely crazy, amazing device.

I'm super into it. i think it's a compelling value now let's talk about the m1 equipped imax that come in six different colors that happen to be the six colors of the original apple logo apparently so um yeah smaller bezels have you seen these have you have you seen this i have about this okay smaller bezels let's talk about the external power brick this is the first to my knowledge this is the first apple desktop machine to ever have an external power brick even the trash can the tiny little trash can had an internal power supply did it not uh am i mistaken i thought it did no i thought it did um i can look it up though but i thought it did i'm pretty sure apparently the g4 cube the g4 cube oh okay all right so that's fair yep there are some old ones but like why so there's a couple. It feels honestly, despite your evidence that you've pointed out, that very, very few have ever had an external power brick.

For some reason, to me, it feels very Apple to do that. If they could make the design of the device itself, like sleeker, I could totally, if for some reason it clicks in my brain that they would absolutely have an external power break so then my next question is why does it need a magnetic cable on a desktop we're not talking something that you've got at you know in the starbucks or whatever and someone might trip over it because to me that was one of the big selling points of magsaafe. It wasn't that I'm too much of a smooth brain chimp to plug in a barrel connector. It was just that if someone else is too much of a smooth brain chimp to foot flick when they accidentally hit my cable and you know, the foot flick Luke, Luke's the one who coined the name for it, but where your foot like hits the cable and you flick up so that you don't actually actually, you know, drag whatever it is off the table so if someone is dumb enough that they drag my laptop off the table to me that was like a killer feature that could save you two grand like the first time you go and use it on a

desktop op1 says literally all macbooks have external power bricks yes but we said desktop max um like help help me out here yeah i i mean okay so one counter that i would bring up with is is why not um i mean they're charging a lot for it so you might as well get some like cool neato features and like maybe you're you're cleaning under your desk and you like yoink the cable it's probably very light and thus very easily accidentally manipulated um so i'd like if i'm sure it weighs more than just my non-computer monitor that's in front or it probably weighs sorry i'm sure it weighs less than my non-computer monitor that's in front of me yeah um really so if you yank on the cable i wouldn't want that really expensive device just whack into the wall i guess there's also a thinness factor where are you going to put it like i've seen external displays that are that thin but

you plug in from the side and there's no way that was going to fly with apple still i mean there's there's a hundred other ways that you could connect something it doesn't have to be magnetic you could have it go on and like kind of screw on to a thing or like you could oh yeah like i mean there's a thousand different ways to connect a thing to a thing wasn't it xbox or microsoft that started the the like breakaway controller design i always thought that was really smart uh i think oh yeah with the xbox i mean i'm sure that they didn't invent it but yeah that's probably one of the more famous mainstream implementations of a breakaway cable yeah so they could have done something like that um yeah i mean i'm not against it because why not i i when i heard that it had that feature i was

like oh okay like it's it's cool it's not it's not gonna sell the device for me but now let's talk about the bigger problem okay a lot of people are upset about the chin bar. I get it. People are upset about the chin bar because what modern monitor has a chin bar? Why? And okay. Yeah, that's a good point. It's a thing to be upset about because it's so unnecessary in the interest of making it as thin as possible from the side where you will quite literally never see it.

Apple went and put a big, ugly chin in front of you where you will see it all day, every day, and all for what? To save you like this much space on your desk? Like that's a funny thing. When we went from CRTs to flat screen displays, excuse me, flat panel displays, because a flat screen display is a CRT with a flat piece of glass on the front. That is an important distinction. So when we went from CRTs to flat panel displays, all of a sudden, there was a significant desk savings. You know, your setup was so much cleaner all of a sudden. And motion on your screen was smeary and horrible.

But boy, did you ever get a cleaner desk setup. Here, I don't see the difference between this and this. And I feel like Apple is kind of coming at this trend really late. Like for years and years, TV manufacturers kept chasing thinner and thinner. Oh, we made it a millimeter thinner. We made it a millimeter thinner. LG went as far as to make a wallpaper TV. And then I don't know if you guys noticed, but that whole thing has kind of gone away.

Like there are thin TVs, but nobody's talking about it anymore it's not like when you go to ces they're like it's 30 thinner because they figured out that beyond a certain point i'd say beyond like it doesn't really matter anymore thick nobody cares because it does not make an appreciable difference to how you enjoy the product. So I can see why people are upset about that element of the chin bar because they could have just made it thicker. They could have hucked everything on the back of it. Honestly, the one that I'm way more upset about is the lack of Ethernet. It doesn't have Ethernet on board.

That's actually super bonkers. Yeah. Like, how mind blowing is that to you? And like, it's not like I don't talk to people where I go, you know, hey, are you, you know, your connection's kind of bad. Are you on Wi-Fi? And they'll say, yeah, I'm on Wi-Fi. And I'll say, can you go get a wire?

Because even the best Wi-Fi is not as good as the worst. Okay, I shouldn't say that. Yeah, there is some really good wireless solutions. But I'd also say it's just kind of weird because you're talking about calls, right? And especially in the current pandemic state, so many calls are happening from home devices and these m1 macs look like home devices um so to not have that wire connection in it's whether it's video calls normal calls or streaming um because as much as a lot of streaming started with just games there's tons of artist streamers and and yeah like non-gaming streamers

out there now uh so to have that limitation just feels super weird i there's there's a way to get like a dock or something that comes with it right it comes with the higher end one so the power brick actually has an ethernet jack in it which is kind of an ingenious solution to not having to plug yet another wire into the back of the machine. But it bothers me a lot that people are going to buy the lower end model, not have an Ethernet jack at all. And then I, their nephew or grandson or whatever, are going to go over to their house. They're going to complain that the internet doesn't work or their phone calls are bad or whatever.

And then I'm going to have to go and go buy like a USB ethernet dongle to hang off the back because it's going to be so much cheaper than buying a replacement power brick. Oh yeah, definitely. It's just really, it's just really frustrating because I know for a fact that the cost of like an Ethernet controller is literally like between a dollar and two dollars. It's actually negligible in the context of, you know, a 700, 800, 900, thousand dollar product.

you know, a 700, 800, 900, thousand dollar product. So can we just, can we not, you know, can we not save that dollar? Can we just provide it with everyone? Not everything has to be wireless. And in fact, the fewer items that are wireless in your house or in your office, the fewer items that are wireless in your house or in your office, the better those wireless things will perform. So if you plug in every single desktop, your laptops and phones and tablets are all going to deliver a better user experience. Kind of whack. I'm interested. I've been trying to look it up, but this power connector that includes Ethernet,

I wonder how they're doing that. I found a picture that shows the wall side where there's the Ethernet jack and the power to the wall, but I can't see anything on the other end. It's just a single cable that does power and Ethernet? I would guess that it's just some kind of USB power delivery that they're using for the device itself. So then it's no surprise that it would have data channels in usb power delivery that they're using for the device itself so then it's no surprise that it would have data channels in it as well that would be my guess i'm guessing right now though i haven't seen the actual connector so we'd have to have a look at it yeah that's interesting okay um anyway you know what i think honestly it's white bezels and

chin bar aside i think people are going to get used to that. It's going to be like the notch where it starts out where people are angry and then it becomes iconic or something. And these things are going to sell like absolute hotcakes because what Apple has managed to do with the M1, and we talked about this in our MacBook Air and in our MacBook, or do they call it the Air? I can't remember if it's Air or Pro or Air or non anything, just MacBook. MacBook Air and in our MacBook Pro that also has the M1 processor. We talked about this in our reviews. What Apple has managed to do with the M1 processor is nothing short of amazing. They

have delivered better performance at a lower price. I mean, that's something that Apple hasn't seemed to care at all about in a very long time it's always been yeah better performance but hey it comes at a higher price like if you look at the introductory prices of basically every iphone it always goes up right like the original iphone yeah for sure what was the msrp of that thing uh it was like four or five hundred bucks for the cheapest one. They have literally doubled in price since 2007. My problem with the M1 is that if Apple doesn't kind of surprise me here, or not with the M1, yeah, there's nothing they can do to surprise me. But my problem with Apple Silicon, with their M series processors, is that there's absolutely nothing that you can do to upgrade or change it after the fact.

And do you remember when Apple was cool and they allowed you to use your iMac as an external display for another computer? Do you remember that? That was awesome, actually. And these, I think I know the direction you're going in. These would look kind of cool as displays. Sure. And whether they look cool or not, just keeping it out of the landfill once the computer is too slow, having it have any purpose whatsoever beyond just being your computer.

I mean, honestly, this is a totally shallow thing, but even just having the ability to have two matching monitors on your desk today If you just buy two of them and use one of them as a monitor, but whatever your reason for it is That was a really cool feature and I will be really disappointed if it doesn't turn out to be a hidden feature of this one because as it is if Anything goes wrong with this thing it is basically headed to the wood chipper and yeah you can recycle certain elements of it but recycling is not the

best solution extending the life of it past just its initial usefulness as an all-in-one computer is by far a better solution than recycling it. So I hope that turns out to be a thing, but honestly, I don't have a lot of hope for it. Maybe someone who knows something that I don't can let me know in the floatplane chat. CJ Strong says, if it weren't for the silicon shortage, do you think the iMac would have a new M.2 processor? No, there's no way.

I mean, with the lead time on a project like this, this product has been in development since at least like 24 months ago. Don't kid yourself. So we didn't even know there was going to be a silicon shortage by the time they were sitting down to work on the 24 or 23 point whatever inch iMac. And honestly, Apple so far hasn't really been meaningfully impacted by the silicon shortage

because Apple does just an outstanding job of managing their supply chain. I mean, at the end of the day, you can think Apple is a luxury brand or you can think they're a consumer electronics brand or a technology brand or a services brand. You know, you got your Apple TV and all that kind of stuff. They're iCloud.

What Apple is, first and foremost, is a supply chain company because they do it like pretty much nobody does it. I mean, when's the last time you wanted to buy an Apple something and you couldn't do it? Maybe, maybe for the first couple of weeks after the launch of a really hot product. Like, I think the AirPods were kind of hard to get your hands on for the first couple of weeks. But they recover, like you were kind of saying, they recover a lot faster than a lot of other companies do, too. Like the Switch or the Wii.

And like Nintendo, theoretically, must have a pretty good set a little bit of experience you'd think yeah but but like both the nintendo wii and the nintendo switch were both horrible like almost impossible to buy for very extended periods of time and then i mean the switch had been out for a while and then it was almost impossible to buy again for a very significant amount of time. And then, I mean, the Switch had been out for a while and then it was almost impossible to buy again for a very significant amount of time. What was the, yeah, Wii Fit was practically impossible to buy for like six or seven months in the pandemic. 100%. Wow.

100%. All right. We should announce something pretty special soon. And I guess we're going to do it right now yes ladies and gentlemen hold on one sec hold on oh i'm getting a call from the president give me a moment hello president oh uh you're we can hear you you know that right okay yeah he moved away from the mic okay all right i got a big surprise for y'all and by the time you're watching this in the archive

it will definitely be too late all right okay okay okay uh was the president just calling to tell me to do this uh yes we are we are we are not going to war everything is okay that's good all right attention verified actual gamers you're not verified yet but if you're actual gamers. You're not verified yet, but if you're actual gamers, there's a chance that in the next short while you will become verified. We have a small Wanshow exclusive drop of a Seuss Tough Gaming AMD Radeon RX 6800 X TOC Edition graphics cards,

and we are going to have these at MSRP. Now, please do note, MSRP on this card has gone up a fair bit since it launched due to supply shortages as well as component price increases, but this is still a lot less than what it would be on eBay from a scalper monster who's extorting you. So this is a freaking sick GPU, ladies and gentlemen. Runs at over two gigahertz, has 16 gigs of GDDR6 memory, 4,608 stream processors,

a triple fan, 2.9 slot heatsink. It's a thick boy. It's a thick boy. And it features Asus' Axial Tech fans with a zero decibel mode and their Aura RGB lighting. It's got a vented backplate. And I want to thank, before I tell you guys back plate and i want to thank before i tell you

guys any more i want to thank amd and asus for supporting the verified actual gamer program where i promise them i promise you every single card we've even had people cancel orders and all we've done with them we've held on to them until we get a chance to put it in the hands of a verified actual gamer no one at no one at ltd no one on my staff no one who knows me in person can get their hands on it this is only people in the community i've had i've had people on staff try to buy them they're like there are many floatplane members that want to get them can one go missing the answer is no you must pass the gamer gauntlet. You must do it first. They do 144 hour validation on these things for reliability out of the box, which is good because if it dies, the odds of you getting

another one are pretty slim. So here it is, ladies and gentlemen, you can go challenge the gamer gauntlet now. LTTstore.com slash the brand of the chip. Okay. So who is it that actually makes the chip on this graphics card? Three letters. All right. LTTstore.com slash the brand of the chip. The three letter name of this show. The format that you are watching. So the hint is that it is not VOD.

Okay. It's not video on demand. How are you watching right now, ladies and gentlemen? It's a four letter word. And the number of the month we are currently in. LTTstore.com slash

the company that makes that Radeon chip. Three letters. The show you are watching right now. Three letters. The format you are watching in right now. Four letters. And the number of the month that you are watching it in. One number, just in case that was unclear.

Not spelled out. Just in case you were unsure. Great. Good luck, gamers. In the meantime, let's blow through the Apple TV 4K refresh. It's got the A12 Bionic chip. It's got 4K 60 HDR playback. This is really cool.

This is a really neat feature. So with the Apple TV 4K, you can actually use your iPhone, point it at your screen, and it will automatically calibrate its output based on the idiosyncrasies of your TV with the camera of your iPhone. That's pretty cool, right?

That's actually kind of sick. Unfortunately, because Apple is Apple and didn't, you know, think to have it actually interface with the menu of your TV, it won't work for any other devices that are hooked up to your TV, but it will work with your Apple TV. So at least that'll be color accurate. So that's cool. It's better than nothing for when you play Fantasian, which I still haven't played because i kind of want to play it on a different platform so i'm playing break of the default 2 instead now um comes with a new aluminum remote unfortunately doesn't contain the u1 chip so that you can find it like air tags which is unfortunate that seems

like a missed opportunity yeah and the remote won't work with some games if anyone cares about that also there's a purple iPhone. All right. Do you want to talk about the Tile thing? The Tile thing is interesting. People are mad, and when Americans are mad, they use lawyers. So there's lawyers involved. Tile seeks to reinforce ongoing antitrust charges against Apple and the AirTags' release.

And this may help their cause. Tile sees AirTags as a copycat product. I can understand why. No. That seeks to squeeze Tile out of the iOS ecosystem. Honestly, when I saw the first screenshot of the AirTag, I thought it was a Tile. Apple recently opened the Find My Network system to third parties in order to head off anti-competitive complaints. That probably isn't going to solve things, though, considering these notes that are following. The tile took exception to what they call very strict terms and conditions, likening it to a hostage program. Wow, I'm surprised. I'm super surprised after dealing with the Apple App Store. I'm very surprised that someone would think of it as a hostage program because that's exactly what it is.

This is referring to the fact that third parties cannot use their own apps to control Find My functionality, which is notably not how HomeKit works. Additionally, Apple hasn't fully opened U1 Ultra Wideband support to third parties, making it impossible to compete with Apple devices like AirTags. Very cool. Not surprised. Also, crucially, Tile has already announced an Ultra Wideband tracker in January, but has been unable to bring it to market thanks to uwb restrictions um apple's responses are basically like oh no this is totally fine we did some of this stuff before you did and you have 90 of the uh the market share anyways so it doesn't matter we've always embraced competition as the best way to drive great

experiences for our customers yeah that's just another way of saying go f*** yourself. We don't care. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I mean, there is another consideration. If Apple opened up U1 access to third parties without any kind of validation, there's a lot of potential privacy issues. Like Google also has a UWB API in Android that is similarly unavailable to third-party apps so as for who's right about this um i mean i don't know it gets into some muddy legal waters

that i don't understand it's a funny thing because on the one hand like let's say that um you know youtube uh entered implemented some kind of policy or some kind of business change that made it difficult for Linus Media Group to operate. The reality of it is we built our business on someone else's platform. So now we suffer the consequences of that. And I'm not saying Tile did something wrong. I mean, that was supposed to be what was so great about the iPhone was that it was this platform where whether you made a, you know, a flashlight app or a level app or whatever, whatever app, there was supposed to

be money to be made in this ecosystem. But then, you know, obviously, if you're Apple, kind of like Amazon does with Amazon Basics. Amazon Basics. Yeah, if you see something on your platform that's performing really well that you think you could throw a small, you know, engineering team at and whip up in a year or two

and then just take all the revenue for yourself, why wouldn't you do it? Because maybe you don't want to be a big a**hole, but I guess you do. So that gives the breaks right i yeah i don't know how the law works here it seems like kind of a jerk move um but but that's what antitrust law is supposed to prevent it's supposed to prevent unfair competition. So if on the basis of the idea being that this is a platform that developers and product makers can come and participate in and compete in, if that's the

idea, and then you come in and you have a first party competitor that has advantages that you don't give to anyone else. That's supposed to be what antitrust law is supposed to address. And maybe this is just my paranoia, but I just I don't I don't trust it. You know, like that's why we built Floatplane. That's why we built a forum, because I had no guarantee that Google couldn't just turn me off at some point. And that's a big part of why we do our everything, all our merch, all our drops on LTTstore.com. It's not like Amazon isn't an enormous marketplace that we could absolutely use. When I called out that ABCs of Gaming is on Amazon, I think that was last week on WAN Show, we sold all 150 copies that we had in stock so fast

that Amazon's recommended restock for us was more than we were allowed to restock so this is great Nick sent me the best message earlier uh here hold on a second let's see if I can while you're doing that I'll just say like i have no idea where the law lands on this or anything like that all i would say is that i hope if this does go through and they go after and and and like apple takes takes a blow for this i hope they look at amazon um i hope whoever whatever lawyers they had behind this take a look at amazon because holy crap they've been doing the exact same thing um and just as bad or worse for years. So it's some serious scumbaggery and I'm really not that into it now. Uh, this is really cool. I've actually got the message that Nick sent me for you guys here. Uh, can you, can you see this luke so it says recommended quantity 828 and then it says we

put in 828 and it goes this product exceeds the allowed quantity for standard size storage click the restock limits monitor to view the maximum shipment quantity for the standard size storage it's like you literally you told me to get this many of them but when it's a new item amazon only allows so many so they asked us to do what we couldn't do because they told us we couldn't do it it's like okay sure so it seems like a pretty simple thing to to fix and that's weird as long as you're reliant on somebody else's platform that's always going to be the way that it is. You want to do something like verified actual gamer program. There's no way we could build that through Amazon. That's something that we were only able to do with the help of the floatplane team and by integrating it into a separate platform like Shopify, where we actually have at least some degree of control.

And it's not perfect, to be very clear. Like developing for Shopify, there's a reason that you know it's kind of considered to be half science half a little bit of black magic um what's up luke uh just yeah but at least it's better than being entirely dependent on someone else's you know black box you know, black box. You know what I mean? At least they do let you do things like you. Yeah.

All right. So thank you, Verified Gamers. I'm actually just looking at my Shopify dashboard right now. And I think that's probably everyone who managed to validate right away has checked out. But I do have good news for you guys if you didn't get one we will have an accompanying drop coming up with the other 270 of those cards there's going to be more we knew they have not all sold oh they haven't well okay but if you're not already queued there's no way um but we knew that this one was going to

be a total mad rush and that's the reason that we haven't typically done them live on wanshow because we know you guys are dialed in all we have to do is mention you know an available domain name and within seconds it's been snapped up and redirected to lttstore.com so like we know you guys are on it which is why we only did 30 we didn't want to just we didn't want to just have them all go to the wanshow audience sorry we have lots and lots of actual gamers out there who don't necessarily tune into wanshow so we want to make sure that they get a crack at it spread the love yeah metal gappy says to everyone that got a card congratulations and I hope you enjoy them.

Thank you, Metal Gappy. That is exactly what we're trying to do here. All right. SKHS says only 30. That's right. It was only 30. I told you guys. Very small drop for this one.

But the other 270 are coming. So stay tuned. Not on WEN show today. All right. Why don't we... What is going on? What is happening to my... Wait, did I open the wrong...

Oh, I opened the wrong browser window. So I was like, all my tabs were like kind of right. But sometimes when I restart or if Chrome crashes or whatever, you know how you can open up your previous 20 tabs or whatever? Yeah. Sometimes it'll like do it twice for whatever reason. So I'll have two almost identical Chrome windows. Oh, weird. And so this one, I, the one I'm using right now, I had like, you know, gone to the WAN show document in my Google docs tab. And I had gone to the float plane chat dashboard and my floatplane tab and all that kind of stuff.

And I accidentally pulled up the wrong one when I moved it out of the way so that I could show everyone that message from Nick. And then I pulled up the old one. I was like, all these tabs are right, but I'm just... What's going on? Yeah, I'm in the wrong pages. What's going on here?

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kind of slick back tires and then like grippier front ones. Uh, it's actually powered by a, the rear wheel drive, uh, four different modes. So it'll do up to 23 miles an hour in race mode and uh what was the other aerodynamic rear wing okay that's not much of a feature and then it actually converts into where is it you can pull out the drive unit at the back and it converts into what is it called like an s s something uh yeah i think it's nine bot s yeah one of these things it's crazy this thing is crazy so i brought it home uh for my kids to try and okay to be clear i don't recommend this this will not be in the email. In the email? In the email, in the video about it.

But this is so funny, okay? So this is me ripping down our street with my daughter in my lap. Hold on a second. Why is my auto-rotate not on? Because I'm some kind of monster, I guess. Hold on. Okay. See if you guys can hear this.

Why is this audio? Wow. That trip is awesome. Why does it not default to have audio? I freaking... I kind of hate this thing. Okay, so we're ripping. Is it lagging? Man. man the expression on her face when we were just like ripping down the street man there's not many sounds that are more pure joy than a little kid going fast

and probably the cutest thing about it was at each speed i would take her and she'd be like go as fast as we can we'd go we'd rip down in a straight line and then um i'd get back and i'd be like can i tell you a secret and she goes yeah and i go it goes faster and she's like and she'll laugh can we do it i'm like okay and then we'd go we'd rip and it'd be like was that fun just be like yeah and i'd be like let me tell you a secret okay it goes faster and just laugh like that so funny man little kids man it's uh i'm not gonna try and sell you on it because i know you got you know you got your thing you got your thing but it's it's i uh i'm not gonna try and sell you on it because i know you got you know you got your thing you got your thing but it's it's i'm i'm into it hold on this is i think i

think i have one of those here oh why is the sound off i hate you so much okay oh no never mind i think uh i think we didn't catch that anyway it was it was super funny um so yeah super cool we're gonna have a short circuit coming where we rip around in the parking lot and the thing is guys i actually wanted to talk to the community about this because i don't know exactly what to do with it like would you guys watch a review of a go-kart like we could have alex and jake give their thoughts you know like they know what's up yeah yeah you could go way over the top and like benchmark it i mean we could i i don't know if you could find one weak enough maybe you could but like you could like dino it man i don't even know if you could dino it but uh we could definitely do zero to 60 well

i mean it doesn't do 60 it maxes out at like 37 kilometers zero to 35 yeah zero to you know zero to 20 miles an hour or whatever like it really has some kick off the line it does about 1g of acceleration according to the spec sheet but we could verify that obviously um andy is actually really good like when we went to the local indoor go-karting place he was like him and alex just put the rest of us to absolute shame okay youtube chat is pretty much unanimous here they're like yes do it like a car review yeah i mean that's a possibility we could go totally over the top and just we have four of them i wonder if you could convince um like a local go-kart place to let you like pit it against theirs yeah maybe maybe our best driver traditional

yeah your best driver interesting Yeah. Your best driver. Interesting. Okay. You know what? Yeah, we'll consider it. We're definitely going to do the short circuit. We could do a channel super fun or something like that. That'd be pretty, that'd be pretty cool.

But otherwise, maybe we actually do it in the style of our car reviews or something like that. The challenge with that though, is we have a lot of cars lined up. We're supposed to be doing one every two months. That's our target, which we obviously haven't done so far this year. We haven't shot anything yet this year. But we've got a ton of stuff lined up. I think the next one's going to be the Taycan. And from there, it's going to be like one after another, after another, after another. There's so many electric cars coming out right now.

Livin says it would get roasted by a two-stroke cart i mean it depends maybe in a straight line but remember this is electric son like when you're coming out of a corner this is not and there's a lot of that on go-kart tracks yes that's basically how a go-kart track works so i don't know you might not actually be right about that and if not that's still an interesting story like it doesn't have to win for it to be an interesting story yeah uh there's a couple other things i promised i'd talk about so i might be doing a pc build with a basketball star and i'm talking like nba like an actual like yeah what okay household name so how did this happen uh it was actually one of the hardware partners that we work with who is working on a thing where

they want this basketball star to do a build but i think the idea was that I'm there to come in and act as kind of like a guiding hand and make sure that, A, it's like entertaining to watch and B, it's more educational. So the way that I see it, I actually had a call with this person today. And you know what? Until we've actually shot it, I don't want to guarantee anything because life happens, right? Like stuff happens. It might be no fault of their own. Maybe they can't do it. And I don't want to put them in an awkward position where all of a sudden, you know, I called them out saying they would build a PC with me and then they don't do it and they, you know, get pressured or whatever. I don't want anything like that. But I had a call with them today and I think it's going to be great because the guy's personality is super chill, easygoing, genuinely wants to learn. This is not about me building a PC for him.

We're going to do it kind of like ROG Rig Reboot, but in reverse. So instead of him being on the call and me being the hands, he's going to build build it and i'm just there to coach him through it so when we're done he will have built his own gaming pc and honestly the story is great because he's like yeah i mean you know i've always been kind of into console gaming but with the lockdown it's like i thought maybe there's another world out there and i kind of started getting into pc gaming and I really like it. Now I want to build my own PC gaming PC.

I'm stuck in hotels all the time because travel and COVID. So let's do this. And I'm like, this is great. Heck yeah. Because what I like about it is this is like an everyman PC build. is this is like an everyman PC build. And I don't mean that in the sense that like a star basketball athlete is an everyman on a basketball court.

But when it comes to building a PC, he's an everyman, okay? So I talk about this a lot, where it's really easy for the PC community to be really kind of, you know, look down your nose at people who don't even know what kind of DDR goes in the motherboards for this socket. You know what I mean? But you got to understand for most people, they spend their life doing something else,

whether it's being focused on cooking or family or work, or're really into home renovation and construction, whatever. There's a thousand other things that they know better than you do. And this is such a perfect example of someone whose life has clearly been about something else. And so he's going to come in and he's going to ask every stupid question that everyone else has and they're afraid to ask. And because he's someone that is already looked up to for his for his skill, for his ability, for his hard work in some other area of his life, I think that's going to make the whole scene more approachable for other people. And that's what's making me really excited about it. For sure. Yeah, definitely.

You know, like, oh, well, if he who's obviously a literal actual master of this other thing has to ask this dumb question, well, now I don't feel dumb. You know what I mean? And so that was what the meeting today was, was about us getting to kind of talk a little bit because I don't encounter a lot of like, you know, basketball stars in my daily life. And I think the same probably goes the other way for tech nerds. So the idea was that we get to know each other a little bit. And I got a really good vibe that he's going to be down to just ask the dumb questions and have me explain it like I'm five so that everyone else can not have to feel like that.

And so I thought that was super cool. And I'm really excited. I'm really excited to work with them. Awesome. There's a note in here. I highly suggest getting Titanfall 2 on Steam. Yes. Oh, this is from you.

Okay, this is $10. Okay, so it's $10, but that's not even the biggest point. So I haven't talked about this on the show too much, but for me, I genuinely think the single player from Titanfall 2 is the best single player of any shooter I have ever played in my life. Hands down. I've pretty much played basically all of them because I really like single player shooters.

I have said this a lot and basically everyone puts their nose up and then just ignores me to the point where I have basically sat multiple people down and made them play the damn game so they can experience it. It's pretty short, so it's not too bad to do. And so far, every single person that i have done that with has then co-opted my opinion on the game okay so it's just 10 bucks i think you should try it the story of this game is freaking tragic back in whenever the heck when they released it it was released right in between these other games were released like a week apart or something i don't remember exactly what but it was very close cod and battlefield yeah it was released right in the middle of those two and with no advertising it was terrible and it's an incredibly awesome game since it's been added to steam its player

count has been blowing up so if you want to check out the online scene it's very popular right now and if you only bought it for the single player that price is absolutely worth it so please try it yeah it's an incredible game and that that studio they're the guys that made apex a lot of the people that come from that studio came from the original halo games you can imagine that they might make a pretty good single player game um it's yeah it's good stuff yeah you're getting a lot of backup in the float plane chat here so titanfall two guys 10 bucks on steam yeah and the the reviews the recent reviews are overwhelmingly positive and the all-time reviews are overwhelmingly

positive like it's fantastic game and it deserves more so check it out all right we've got another kind of topic that we need to talk through um out of nowhere a Canada Computers employee is blowing a whistle on the company's alleged substantial stock of GeForce RTX 3000s that they are refusing to sell despite having taken back orders. The allegation is that many stores have stopped getting new shipments of 30 series GPUs altogether. Why? stores have stopped getting new shipments of 30 series gpus altogether why after it became oh we should have totally done this topic before the verified actual gamer program dropped probably but that's okay but why is after it became clear that the gpus would be in short supply allocations that should have gone to stores or would have gone to stores were apparently held at head office for a new custom build program now here's the's the thing. Margins on GPUs are low. I'm going to tell you guys a little secret here. Hold on. Let me bring up my Shopify

dashboard. Okay. So our sales today with those 30 cards that we added to it, so that's $1,000, right? Times 30 cards, that's $30,000. That's a lot of money. But get this, even though our revenue today, hold on, let me look at yesterday, is up substantially, our profit is actually, oh no. I only look at this on mobile and the layout is slightly different on...

I've become that guy. I only look at these reports on my phone. Okay, yeah. So our profit today is... Let me check against yesterday. Wow, just over half, even though our sales are much higher because there is no flipping margin in graphics cards. So why is Canada Computers allegedly holding these cards and headquarters?

Well, because if they sell the graphics card as part of a system that has other components they can actually make money on, like cases, power supplies, then they can make way more money as a whole because they're the ones that have GPUs so people can buy their systems. Because there's a strategy that's being pushed by the community, actually, which is to buy these systems and then flip the other parts. Now, allegedly, these builds are hastily thrown together to mean more service calls. I don't know if I would necessarily buy that. And the OP says that head office wants to end back orders full stop and just do builds. Now, here's a hot take.

There's a hot take and a half. Okay. Luke. Yeah. yeah i have personally with these two hands walked into the back and hand allocated incoming graphics cards for systems i have done it so what well i think the issue here is that they're on yes like they have accepted orders right like it's a bit different so that's the difference that's what we're getting into okay so when i

was at ncix i would not have done that if there was already an order for the product ncix did a lot of things wrong but not honoring fifo not, at least in the time that I was there, was not one of them. So FIFO means first in, first out. Your first order in is your first order out. And one of the things that NCIX didn't do well was that they would actually take people's money on back orders where they weren't 100% sure when it would come. But the redeeming quality was that when the bloody thing came, at least you got your part. They also didn't have a very good system for like, if we had an EVGA KO and an EVGA SSC, and the KO was way backordered, and the SSC was only like

10 more dollars, and we got a ton of these and we had a ton of backorders of these. We wouldn't, unless it was super bad, super allocated, it was done very manually. We wouldn't say, we wouldn't go pull these and say, okay, hey, we need to contact all those guys, see if they want to upgrade for 10 bucks. That's something they didn't do a good job of either, but at least we did FIFO. So here's the problem, is that Canada Computers has taken these orders and they are allegedly sitting on thousands of dollars worth of paid back orders that can be fulfilled, but they won't do it because they're waiting around for people to buy an entire system.

A now deleted custom SOP outlines the following. All custom build packages with a shortage item are final sale. Defective exchange can happen only within the first 30 days of purchase. Parts can't be greater than 45% of total cost. So you can't put a $900 GPU in a $2,000 build. Builds must have CPU, motherboard, RAM, case, and storage. And custom builds must be 100% paid for before the parts will ship. Okay, that

I understand. That makes sense. Now this is interesting. Anthony actually has a hot take in here too. The shop I worked at pulled parts off the shelf as needed for new builds. And most people expect CC to do this too. It wouldn't be controversial if these were SI allocations, but they are retail cards, but I guarantee this is more common than

we think. And that's a very good point because one of the big final pushes that sealed the deal for me on doing verified actual gamer program was the RTX 3060 launch. NVIDIA told me there's lots. Board partners told me there's lots. Retailers told me there aren't any. And I kind of went... there's lots. Retailers told me there aren't any. And I kind of went. Now, NVIDIA's response to that was, well, hey, you're probably talking to like rinky dink shops. And I was like, you think I'm an idiot? I don't know. I don't know where to buy a graphics card. Like, what kind of answer is that? Obviously, I know where to get a graphics card like thank you very much um so no something went wrong hence verified actual gamer program i mean i don't know i don't know maybe maybe nvidia cares maybe they don't uh i did invite them to join the

verified actual gamer program and they politely declined so i don't know i they also have probably their own separate reasons for not wanting to work with me but uh whatever it is whatever it is uh hey we're gonna have a radion drop coming in the next little bit here 270 cards rx 6800 xt um so thank you very much amd for actually giving And well, I guess that's it. I guess that's all I can say about that. That's it, yeah. What I would probably say is there's, we're fairly certain there's more bad

going on behind the scenes than this. And this is a bit more, while I think it's still a problem because of the, like, they're already backordered by customers thing. I have no issue whatsoever with companies taking stuff off the shelf in order to build systems. If that thing isn't sold, who cares?

That means nothing to me at all. I don't think that's a problem in the slightest, and I don't think anyone in the community cares about that either. But if they are already sold, they shouldn't be taking those things and putting them in systems. But, yeah, there's more going on than this. That's where we'll leave it. And I think that's where we're going to leave the show

today. Thank you very much for tuning in, ladies and gentlemen. I hope y'all enjoyed it. Wait, I think I said we were going to talk about Project XCloud, but we didn't. Okay, it's in beta on PC and iOS. Game Pass Ultimate subscribers will be invited over the course of the beta. It's browser-based with support for multiple leading web browsers

like Chrome, Safari, and of course Edge. There's no firm date on when the service will go live for everyone. Allegedly, it feels like xCloud on Android, so you can expect latency and input issues. It's running similar to what the Xbox One S has, which is a Jaguar 8 core. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Load times are rough due to hard drive.

Why would they put a hard drive in it? Okay. And also the Series X and series s are getting amd fidelity fx um wow that's cool which narrows the gap between a pc version and an xbox version that's cool man xbox there's that man microsoft is just like oh no way they removed the xbox live gold subscription requirements for multiplayer and free-to-play titles yes i thought it was some free-to-play titles but i'm not i'm not maybe maybe it is all i'm not there are going to be a lot of shrieking children in microphones over the next little bit i hate

but man when team fortress 2 went free to play that game died to me it was it was yeah i'm sorry this it was a different flow play knows it's a different community that pays for a service yes this is hopefully is highly aware of that yeah they're they're aware of just the difference in community all right let's go ahead and get through some super chats then robert mail says lola bunny collab confirmed question mark um you know no you know the lola bunny redesign is totally unacceptable we can't we can't stand for it rise up gamers can you even you know i'm not even gonna you know what i'm just gonna say that whole thing ridiculous and then i'm just not gonna say anymore uh grizzly garage says there's only one man who can break into apple tim apple

wait what okay i don't get it tim apple Apple get it? Luke, regardless of what anyone says, keep that moustache. Oh no, we weren't going to acknowledge it. Gamba says... It's actually been exhausting trying to ignore it the whole show. It's in my sightline. Sorry, okay.

Gamba says, Fox Finance to the moon. I have no idea what that is, but it sounds like probably spam that I probably shouldn't have read. Charles says, Linus, less repairable isn't necessarily awful for the environment. Less repairability leads people to upgrade to more energy efficient devices and makes devices more durable, extending their lifetime. Huh. Profits Business Guru says, saw your stream talking about Amazon,

how complex it is. We specialize in this and bought three tumblers to shoot some optimized Amazon photos for us. Who could I reach out to at LTT to talk about your Amazon store? You could just reach out to LTT store support, actually. I don't know know maybe they'll want to talk to you um maybe man since when are the super chats

like other businesses reaching out to me about stuff tails says this is my first super chat ever love your work watch for years also subbed on float playing keep it up hey thanks tails um thank you funny hat says update on the rio pmp 300 bounty youtuber dank pods appears to have one yeah dank pods yeah yeah i think we already have one but thank you very much i found out what happened with that dank pods did reach out to us and it went straight to spam colton sent me a screenshot today so dank pods you gotta find out why your email is going to spam, dog. I don't know why, but we didn't block you or anything. It just was automatically flagged. Nice, John Bray.

Love it. It's a cool story, bro. Zstorm, as a daily driver of the Note 9, are you aware of the green tint issue that Exynos variants develop after updating to Android 10? No, and I don't have an Exynos variant, so I probably won't see it. Spleen be gone. Tried to get one for a friend that just built a computer looks like i missed out have ten dollars instead oh thanks spleen be gone uh dbzm says channel super fun lap time stop competition yeah

i'd love to do like a channel super fun thing with it maybe we could like rent an indoor track. You probably could. The Orca says, bought a used 2060 from an angry parent today off Craigslist for its original price. I get home, turns out to be a 3060. I called, they did not even care. I'm so happy. I feel the need to throw money at you guys. Don't off mom. I would say I feel the need to throw money at you guys. Don't piss off mom.

I would say I feel bad for that kid, but from the sounds of it, the kid didn't buy it. So, I don't know. Wow. Don't piss off mom. Obscure Paradox says, first time catching the stream live,

massive fan. Ever considered doing XOC? If so, happy to lend all the equipment. What the devil is xoc like evga's overclocking software or yeah that's what that doesn't make much sense to me though i wonder if you done typoed your 20 super chat dog that's a little awkward um it's a mayan word for fish okay could bill gates build a gaming pc says leandro that would actually be a very fun collab i'd be super down to do it extreme overland camping i have no

idea not a clue dude people are trying to guess the nba player that we're going to collab with i will not confirm or deny until we have actually shot it. Deni Martel says, got a 5900X and now a 6800XT. Thanks. You are now officially verified gamer programmed out. We are allowing duplicates on CPU and GPU, but we are not allowing duplicates on two of the same thing. So yeah, so you're allowed to win twice if they are entirely different products

as entirely different product sections it's not a duplicate you don't get to get two cpus and two gpus yes correct one cpu one gpu oh people are like extreme overclocking oh like dry ice liquid nitrogen all that kind of stuff you know it's one of those things that's never really appealed to me i mean either hot take um yeah i just don't care it's so like i'm into impractical i would even i we have done a phase change build guide before but to me if it's something that you have to continuously top up, it's just not, um, it's just not interesting. Uh, like it's interesting in terms of, I'll look at other people doing it and I'll be

like, Whoa, great result. That is so cool. And I will genuinely mean it, but do you guys have any idea how tedious it actually is to actually do it? any idea how tedious it actually is to actually do it like all the minutiae of you know adjusting this stupid thing and this other stupid thing and yeah i just i just can't care i'm sorry it's not to run 24 7 he that that's the point right he knows that's why i don't care like to be clear it's not that i'm not crazy i literally ran a chiller as a daily driver i took a like you know two foot by three foot chiller with my gaming pc okay my e6600 overclocked to like whatever the crap it was. I took it to a LAN party. Okay. They had to get a

separate circuit for my station so that it wouldn't trip the breaker. It was very kind of them, but I daily drove it 24 seven, baby. If it ain't 24 seven, I just don't give a. That's just all there is to it. I'm sorry. And that's it. I'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye oh we've got people asking if all the cards are reserved oh yes quite quickly we knew that this is going to be the most dialed in possible audience And they were going to be moving as fast As possible Robert Adams Says if an NBA player is collabing with you

It's obviously going to be a bench warmer Who's got a maximum of 15 seconds Of career playing time on the court What is the point Of tuning into a channel To say something like that And they want to contribute To you and make you What is the point of tuning into a channel to say something like that? And they want to contribute to you and make you a bigger and better creator.

But they also want to belittle you so they can feel better about themselves. Unbelievable. All right. Well, see you later, ladies and gentlemen. And this is for the person that asked if there was a cue after Linus told people that it would be too late by then and that they should just leave the queue, it was still at over 2,000 people in line. So there's definitely a queue. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.