The WAN Show - Apple WON... but also Lost - WAN Show September 10, 2021

Episode Date: September 13, 2021

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which is another way of saying they both lost. So we're going to be talking through what exactly that means as our headline topic of the show today in other maybe less headline but certainly concerning news privacy-based email might not be as private as you think it is we're going to be chatting about proton mail removing the whole we do not keep any ip logs bit from their privacy policy. What else we got today? If you thought that the Snapchat sunglasses were an absolutely smash hit, well, I've got something for you.

Facebook now has sunglasses that can record video, and apparently my birds both want some. We'll talk about those later. Also, Riot is enforcing TPM and Secure Boot in Valorant on Windows 11 PCs. Really? You think that's a headline topic, Luke? All right, well, that's going to be half the debate. That's going to be half the debate, whether that's a headline topic or not. Let's roll that intro.

What other topic would you put a headline? Oh, you're challenging me now. How about Bitcoin becoming the legal tender in El Salvador? Chaos ensues. That's pretty good. Wasn't there already chaos there? How about the Sony PlayStation games showcase? Yeah, do you care about that?

Do you know a single one of them ahead of time? How about the Matrix Res matrix resurrections trailer have you watched it okay all right so that that really was all we had okay fine um the show is brought to you today by jump cloud tax care and of course, FreshBooks. They're fresh. All right. So let's jump right into Apple v. Epic. Three months after the trial concluded, Judge Yvonne Gonzalez-Rogers ruled in favor of Apple on most counts. That Epic failed to show that Apple was a monopolist.

That Epic breached developer contract, so the Fortnite ban was therefore justified, and that Epic must pay Apple 30% of the revenue from Epic Direct payments that were taken through Fortnite on iOS. So that's approximately 12 million total revenue. So I guess 30% of that from August to October 2020, and then an unknown amount from

november to the present but epic did win on one important count third-party payment systems the ruling stated that apple is not breaking anti-trust laws but that they are guilty of anti-competitive behavior which in my opinion is just another way of saying that the anti-competitive behavior, which, in my opinion, is just another way of saying that the antitrust laws need to be updated for the digital age. But that's a whole, that's a separate conversation. Or that they need to make a new law

that anti-competitive behavior is bad. I mean, what does it? Oh, okay. It doesn't matter. The point is, through a permanent injunction, Apple is now restrained and enjoined from prohibiting developers from including in their apps and their metadata buttons, oh, from including in their apps and their metadata buttons, external links,

or other calls to action that direct customers to purchasing mechanisms. Very good. customers to purchasing mechanisms. So this has to be in addition to in-app purchasing, and they are not allowed to prohibit developers from communicating with their customers through points of contact obtained voluntarily from customers through account registration within the app. So basically, the way that it worked before for iOS apps was that unless you had, so Netflix, for example, just had a sign in, the app did absolutely nothing until you signed in and you just had to somehow know already with your giant space brain that you had to go on Netflix's website, whether it's on a PC or on your mobile browser, create a Netflix account, pay for it, and then you could go sign in in the app.

So it just had to be this like blank wall with no instructions, which is obviously a terrible customer experience. So that's the way it worked before to to manage to have outside of App Store payments. Now, what the judge is saying is that Apple cannot prevent you from having a button in your app that basically says, OK, click this to go create an account and pay. And then you can go back to the app and use it as you normally would. It's way less toxic now. Because that's like, if they don't want you to be able to pay through the app or whatever, that's kind of weird and stuff. But at the very least,

let us communicate that to the user, et cetera. And previously, the answer to that was no. And now the answer to that is going to have to be yes, which is way better. Because at least we can tell people what's happening. That was the most frustrating thing, is people would message our support and be like, yeah, i tried to use your app but like it was really weird i couldn't like do stuff it's like yeah we know there's nothing we can do about it yeah um now

tim sweeney seems to think that this isn't a win hold on i was gonna i was gonna jump in with something real quick here now something that I don't know is how exactly this is going to be implemented. So the judge did specify buttons, external links, or other calls to action. Apple has to allow them. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Apple has to allow third-party payment services within the app itself. So it might only be a link leading outside of the app, like in Japan. So South Korea, meanwhile, has made it so that Apple has to allow in-app third-party payment services. So we don't know what this is going to end up looking like in the US. Either way, there's at least something you can do here.

This is significantly better than what it was. I'm going to go through Tim Sweeney's statement really quickly because I want to say a statement that applies to both things. Tim Sweeney said, this isn't a win for developers or for consumers. Epic is fighting for fair competition among in-app payment methods and app stores for a billion consumers so i this isn't i would say this isn't like winning the war for developers and consumers no this is definitely a win of a battle this is this is definitely a significant improvement over what we had before um this isn't what tim wants and this isn't the end goal of what i would

want no um but it's still way better than what we had and uh mr sweeney mr sweeney overall is is not super happy i actually read through everything he's tweeted since the uh the judge issued this ruling and he's overall overall not impressed um and in this and and we're in a situation now where even though even though uh even though epic kind of won in terms of now they can just have a button in the Fortnite app that could link you to a website where you could buy V-Bucks. Tim is still saying, and I should say Tim Sweeney, because Apple also has Tim Cook. This is Tim versus Tim, grudge match. So Tim Sweeney also probably recognizes that entering payment information

separately from what you've already got set up with Touch ID or Face ID is a significant source of friction. And you hear the term friction used a lot to talk about getting customers from the awareness end of the sales funnel to the transaction end of the sales funnel. And the less friction you can have along the way, the better. And we've probably all done it, whether it's the friction of, you know, a tedious, like a tedious... Oh, what's the word I'm looking for? Those stupid little...

Yeah, a tedious captcha that you have to do in order to get to the cart yeah you know what i just didn't really need that thing that badly anyway or your auto fill for your payment information not working you know what maybe i'll buy this later and then you never do uh things like that like amazon it's also the other end to talk about low low friction um that's that's the entire reason why when you're going through a lot of stores i know best buy is really funny for this because they basically put you through a maze um and that the walls of that maze are little things that don't cost way too much you know but it's very easy for you to just be going by oh yeah i could grab one of those i

need some batteries i could take some chips. I could use a new whatever, just cable, HDMI cable, whatever. They have all those things lined around the end because it's very low friction to grab those and buy them at the end. So Tim Sweeney is not happy with the ruling and there's other reasons for him to not be happy. Apple recently rejected Epic's request to reinstate its developer account so that they could relaunch Fortnite in South Korea, where third-party in-app payments will soon be required on iOS. And that's obviously the thing that got Fortnite banned in the first place. But here's the thing. Apple is not legally under any kind of obligation to reinstate Epic's dev account until they fall in line outside of South Korea, where that is

not the law, at least not yet. So if Apple decides that they want to be vindictive about this, which I could absolutely see this being real personal here at this point, Fortnite might not ever return to iOS devices. Apple says that they're happy with the ruling. I really doubt it, but I think for Apple, this third-party payment systems battle is clearly over now that we've seen rulings in Japan, South Korea, and the US. It's a matter of time before this flood just cannot be held back. So what else are they supposed to say about it? But it's also possible that both companies will appeal at some point. So it could be that none of this is final.

So overall, here's really our discussion around this. Luke, is this a win for consumers? That's question number one. And for developers, developers and consumers and you can speak to both of those from your own personal experience so so like i said earlier i think this is the win of a battle but not the win of a war i think this is a better experience for consumers and i think you are able to make a product that doesn't feel basically just like broken as a developer. Because like coming from a developer standpoint,

not being able to communicate to a user that something is going wrong is really just dumb and bad. Like you screwed up. If something goes wrong or the user can't do something, you should be communicating. Like that's really, really basic user experience. You should be able to communicate to the user what is wrong or give the user an option. And the fact that you couldn't do either of those things in the past is terrible. And it was a really bad user experience for the consumers,

right? Like, oh, I want, let's use Netflix. I won't even use Floatplane. I want Netflix. I'm a new Netflix subscriber. I am one of many people in the world that are mainly consumed content through my phone. I'm going to open the Netflix app on my phone. What? Like, what do I do? Am I just not allowed to use Netflix? Is it maybe not fully compatible with my phone?

Like, it's just a terrible user experience across the board. So yeah, I think it is an improvement, but I do agree with Tim that this isn't like a full win. This isn't a win of the war. Now here's kind of the big question at this point. I think when this whole thing went down, you and I were, I think, pretty close to being on the same page that Epic was doing the right thing.

I mean, fundamentally, I agree with them that Apple is, and you could call it monopolistic. You could say it's an antitrust violation. You could say it's anti-competitive. It doesn't matter because they're all just kind of heads, different heads of the same monster. It's all a company abusing a position of power that makes it impossible for other entities to compete with them and abusing a position of power that in a way that they wouldn't be able to if other entities were able to compete with them in a completely fair and open market. And the word fair, I used that intentionally because it can mean a lot of different things. You could make the argument that the competition that we have now is fair because someone else could just make a really great product and make lots of money and

lobby lawmakers. That's fair. Well, yeah, that's like a kind of fair, but not everyone actually has those kinds of resources. And that shouldn't be, might should not make right, right should just be right. So I think you and I were kind of on the same page that epic was absolutely fighting uh a just and noble battle but for not necessarily the most just or noble reasons you know obviously they had their eye on that you know 30 percent of the money that they could that they were just giving there's a huge amount of personal gain for for epic going into this yeah they've tried to frame it as like oh no we're just doing this for everyone else and like yeah if they if they win that full war that i've been referencing uh that would be very positive but let's say they don't let's say this is as far as it gets did

they effectively just throw themselves upon their own sword for nothing but the benefit of everyone else because if they don't intentionally but that's probably why tim's upset if they don't get their developer account reinstated they are not going to be getting any vbucks anywhere even where in-app payments are mandated or third-party in-app payments are uh allowed by law so they will get literally nothing and will have burned all of that sweet sweet 70 percent of vbucks money that they could have taken uh for i mean years years of potentially being off the app store i mean apple as an organization um to to to imagine that they would be anything other than vindictive about this crusade that epic has made very personal i i wouldn't actually say that it's apple that made this personal epic has made it has made it they've they've taken it public

they've appealed to their individual users to try to sort of wage a war of of consumer pressure against apple like they've fought tooth and nail and you could even make the argument they fought pretty dirty here um but at the end of the day, I guess when it was, was fighting pretty dirty, dirty before Epic even joined the ring. So I think, I feel like they kind of stooped to their level, but yeah, I, um, it's, it's interesting. It's, it's, I appreciate, you know, I appreciate the, the handout, um, from the company that seems to be very happy to steal everything they can from everyone else thanks epic i appreciate it um they like or not steal but like direct copy i guess i just

every time i i start trying to think about epic in a positive light i'm like oh yeah they just like completely copy pubg and then among us very cool maybe they're not entirely on the side of like other developers you know yeah but but yeah this was like i said this this is a benefit for us this is a big benefit for flow plane i'm very happy that this happened um it's this it is going to be very nice to be able to communicate to our users properly about what's going on do i think this is going to be very nice to be able to communicate to our users properly about what's going on. Do I think this is going to like drive a bunch of subscriptions? No. Yeah. Do I think it's going to create some less confused people?

Yeah. All right. Now let's talk about this is this is kind of one of the big topics of this week. ProtonMail. ProtonMail has had a reputation for a long time actually i mean this goes man how long has proton mail just kind of been the de facto you know private email service because it's it's free unlike a lot of a lot of sort of private uh like like uh private mail services um they had a really bulletproof looking privacy policy.

And when I say had, I really do mean had. This is kind of a big deal. ProtonMail has removed a statement from their privacy policy that said that they do not keep any IP logs. So, Luke, why would it be important that your email provider not retain ip logs well because if if someone either broke into that service um so like black ad hackers or something of that sort broke into that service they could they could acquire that data or if they are asked for that data by some form of government entity, in both of those cases, if they just don't have it,

it's really not that big of a problem. If they get broken into by some hackery boys or girls or whatever, and there's nothing there for them to take, it doesn't really matter. It's a little spooky, and you got to maybe batten down the hatches a little bit but you didn't lose anything so who cares um but if you are holding all this data then it's then it's an issue and it's there and uh it could be a regulator that's going after it so proton mail is a swiss company and they were

obliged to follow a swiss court injunction demanding that they begin logging IP addresses and browser fingerprint information. So the account that they went after was operated by a Parisian chapter of Youth for Climate. Their cause is fighting against gentrification, high-end establishments and real estate speculation, among other things. and real estate speculation, among other things. ProtonMail points out that the email contents were not handed over, just logging info, because the email body itself is encrypted with keys that are unavailable to the servers that are processing them. So, is ProtonMail still chill then? I would not say 100% chill.

You know? Now, Vixavius in the floatplane chat says, ProtonMail's response to this issue was absolutely A+, full honest. The issue is absurd. You should not use email for any kind of secure communications. I mean, okay, fair enough enough but you might need to um and if people understood at least thought that proton mail was this completely secure method of communication that was the reputation that it had yeah. It's been communicated that way. Now, Vixavius also says that ProtonMail

cannot access your email and you can get around this by simply using a fake IP with a VPN or with Tor. So I guess it comes down to that there is no such thing as just, you know, one tool that you can use to maintain your privacy and or your anonymity online. I think a lot of VPNs have gotten themselves in hot water by claiming that a VPN is some kind of magic bullet that makes you anonymous online. And in the same way, ProtonMail probably just needed to, or maybe this is the community's fault.

It might have been, yeah, it might have been community communication. So bulletproof. But in the same way proton mail is not just a a one-size-fits-all perfect way to maintain absolute privacy uh you need a combination of tools and not just tools but also best practices i mean even tor is not enough to maintain your privacy. For example, if you will use Tor at your native resolution and you happen to be running a Surface Book 2. Let me just double check what the resolution of this thing is. Yeah, okay, this one's pretty good, which runs at 3240 by 2160.

It's a very unusual resolution. One of the things that websites can see is what the resolution of the display that you're browsing from is. So that's the reason that Tor will actually launch at a default small window size. And you're not supposed to adjust it. You're supposed to leave it like that because as soon as you start giving a website

any bit of information, you can start to create, like as you click through and navigate or visit frequently accessed sites, they start to look for patterns and they can start to put together a fingerprint for you that can be used to maybe not identify you, the individual, you know jeremy smith but to identify you and start to build an advertising profile for you which is

is usually what these online services are after so that they can there's one there's one jeremy smith out there that like wasn't really paying that much attention yeah then just all of a sudden it's like whoa sorry i should clarify tor browser tor browser excuse me excuse me um oh man jack of gamers asks what do you think of pa's new multi-hop option i have not actually looked into it but if it's what it sounds like then it's going to hurt latency, but improve privacy. So, hey, there you go. So overall, this is not the end of the world. You can absolutely continue to use ProtonMail. You just need to be aware that every time, and I mean every time you log into ProtonMail,

you should be using a VPN, and ideally you should be making sure that you are accessing it from uh different vpn endpoints so you should you should yeah and especially if you're like there's a note about this too um there's a discussion question if you're an activist of any sort is it time to use tor browsers and vpns can you trust anonymous email services i would answer that somewhat indirectly by saying if you're if you're an activist in a country that is dangerously oppressive to what you're being an activist about um i'm not going to try to make any like you know assumptions about what that is or where you are or anything like that i'm just talking generally what are you trying not to get us deleted in china

i wasn't even thinking about china but um you've seen some of the stuff they've been doing lately no i've been checked out to be completely honest mulan is like deleted from the internet the actress i mean like just like their new thing is if you are if you are not if you are not waving the flag hard enough you simply do not exist anymore it's a whole thing yeah anyway yeah um don't trust anything the the question here is can you trust anonymous email services don't trust anything layer up um use multiple endpoints try to use the most secure thing you can pay attention to these types of things that are happening um watch the news for the various services you use like proton mail make sure that it's still kind of above board

and be ready to switch very quickly and don't be dependent on any one thing don't use just one vpn etc, et cetera, et cetera. Yep. All right, man. I love hopping into YouTube chat every once in a while. It's just, man, it manages to be so off topic.

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I have no idea exactly how much an asset like the linus tech tips youtube channel is worth but a fair bit i would imagine you know to the point where if i was some kind of very if i was a savvy and yet stupid bad actor, you know, I might infiltrate the organization, you know, try to social engineer my way into the credentials and then take off with it, not realizing, of course, that I literally have a phone number for someone at YouTube who can get my channel back to me in minutes if something like that were to happen. You know, so they'd have to be both smart and dumb. But, you know, hey,

do you guys ever watch those compilations of, like, convenience store burglars and stuff? No, I don't think so. You never watch the... Oh, my... A compilation of it? How have you never... Do you mean, like, the ones where they, like, point the gun at the guy and then, like, drop it on the table for do you mean like the ones where they like point the gun

at the guy and then like drop it on the table for him and like weird stuff like that yeah just just like the weirdest just the weirdest stuff that happens i i don't think i've watched a compilation of it but i have seen a lot of them so i don't yeah i don't know have you ever seen the one that's intercut with like metal gear solid gameplay Solid gameplay where she climbs up into the air ducts and is crawling through them. Oh, and then falls through the ceiling. And then comes falling through the ceiling. Yeah.

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i'm gonna this is my this is my genius uh anti copyright strike uh strategy it's the number one on youtube trending right now i got this i got this hold on a second i'm ready i'm ready okay i'm just gonna put i'm just gonna take this and i'm gonna put this right here okay here we go let me know hold on a second hold on a second right out of the gate can i just say that this looks really fake oh it's one of the fakest looking shots i've like ever seen in a modern movie how does it look this fake like i i think i think harry potter and the philosopher's stone had better cgi and that came out in like 2001 the worst part is i actually started this for a while and really questioned because it looks really really fake right but it looks so fake to the point where

i was like is it actually real and just like shot weird it could be it could be like are they trying to put you off here you know it looks like a render okay here we go yeah number one on trending here you know it looks like a render okay here we go yeah number one on trending okay we got a cat there's a black cat black cat seem particularly triggered right now uh okay has keanu ever won Sexiest Man Alive? I don't know, but I feel he deserves it. In my heart, he has. Yeah. Okay, he's in the bath.

He's crying in the bath. Oh, sup, Trinity? Okay. Wait. So this is like... Okay Wait So this is like A reboot He doesn't know he's Neo again? Um Right now yeah

Notice the blue pills though What? Obviously And then he throws the blue pills away And then Alice in Wonderland which was a big part of the first one and then the mirror and morpheus is back except you were there and you were there not really because it's not the same guy because he dies in a video game and they're treating that as canon really yep why who knows

oh okay wait so this is just this is just... This is just The Matrix. He has to learn about The Matrix again? I mean... In fairness... You know what? I think I'm done. I think I'm done here. In fairness... In fairness...

I mean, The Matrix sequels kind of had the superman problem where as soon as your superhero can do anything and wait wait jump back to it and jump to two minutes and 28 seconds i mean i was almost there anyway i guess okay so there's a bunch of action sequences there's cool people with guns there's big none of that sequences. There's cool people with guns. There's big, none of that matters. Okay. Yeah. Here we go. Yeah.

Okay. Um, we're going back to the future. Linus. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay.

Right. So back to what I was saying, like I, I don't, I don't personally really enjoy um superhero franchises where the super is too super i find superman incredibly boring i find uh captain marvel incredibly boring for the same reason because they're basically the same hero um i i i think that's a big part of why uh why iron man sort of kicked off the modern superhero obsession that we have because he was deeply flawed like really extremely unlikable

for the vast majority of that movie um and that that's sort, that's why he's great. Cause he's actually just sort of, uh, like a garbage tier guy with no fighting skills. Uh, and he's like a jerk and, um, like he's very, he's actually really weak without his suit of armor, whether it's a metaphorical suit or a literal suit, you can kind of get into that if you really feel like it. Uh, I don't, I don't feel like it. Um, and so neo was inherently boring as soon as the first film was over because he's like too powerful how do you keep raising the stakes you just you have to have you have to have monsters that are you know literally the size of planets for him to fight you know what i mean like it just it's just it's boring right so i guess you know what i've talked

myself into it i'm gonna see it i'm gonna see it on i'm gonna see it right at right at launch i'm i'm excited now nice reboot you are excited i am i'm ready you're genuinely excited i'm ready for i'm ready for us to just kind of do this but but do it better because honestly speaking 1999 the matrix um revolutionary at the time pun pun intended we're not actually yeah yeah yeah revolutionary at the time um not a great movie you go back and re-watch it like knowing the twist now that it's not really a twist anymore and it's like it the twist now that it's not really a twist anymore. And it's like, it's OK. I think it also got copied a lot, though, which is part of the reason why it's not very great.

I know. I know. So so, you know, let's let's revisit the idea with modern sensibilities. You know, Keanu's back for whatever reason. A video game is canon. You know, let's just let's just let that we'll let that happen. I'm going to be open minded. I'm i'm ready i'm ready with that said oh yeah go ahead i don't know everything that happened i just read something online about how apparently they are treating i believe it was the matrix mmo and like one or two other video games or something as i was like yeah did anyone even play that i thought no there was a

surprising amount of comments of people being like well i played the mmo and it was amazing and the writing was really good because like the wachowskis were i hope i pronounced that right uh were involved um but i i knew no one that played and i and I know that it went down really quick, probably because their player numbers were abysmal. Do you know about the project where, I think it was one guy or something, tried to reverse engineer the Matrix Online servers and tried to save as much of the game as possible

and tried to make like uh is is that is that project still still active i heard about that years ago but i have no idea what happened with it uh i'd like i'd love to yeah floatplane chat Plain Chat was not super super into not super into The Matrix Online okay fair enough I'm excited to see this movie I don't trust that it's going to be good but I'm excited to see it in the same way

maybe not the same way no not nearly as doom and gloom um but i feel like i don't know if excited is the right term either i feel like i need to go see it in the same way that i needed to go see all the new star wars movies oh no no no no i'm not i i don't i'm not i'm not anywhere near as doom and gloomy about it i think it's gonna be not good no the matrix is not dead to me in the way that Star Wars is. But then again, I never saw the last one. I just didn't watch it. Last Matrix?

Yeah. I believe you. The second one was bad enough that I had absolutely no need to see the third one whatsoever. So maybe that saved me. Maybe that makes it so that I can go into Matrix 4 ready for it to not be bad. Someone said Luke's just a Keanu fanboy. Yeah, he's fantastic.

And he might make the movie acceptable to a certain degree. In the same way that they probably could have made the new Star Wars movie somewhat decent if they actually let Mark Hamill act. That that would have been pretty sweet that would be pretty cool he like actually really can act for someone who didn't do a ton of acting work and most did mostly did voice acting work he's awesome i love mark hamill um hold on a second so you say you're a big keanu fan did you actually watch the new bill and ted movie no me neither so can you really say you're a kianu fan if you didn't even bother to watch

the new bill and ted i'd watch it with you i um i it came out during quarantine didn't it i think so yeah is it is it on a streaming service now i haven't heard of it being on one um but i wasn't going to see movies like when that came out doesn't matter if i'm a fan or not i'm also like if i'm a fan of an actor or actress it's not that much of a fan i don't really i don't really like follow movies and stuff that much i just think kiano's like pretty cool and i like a lot of the stuff that he's in but all right yeah Yeah. All right, I'm ready. I'm ready for The Matrix Resurrections. Did you watch the Sony PlayStation Showcase?

No, but I followed a fair amount of it. The Knights of the Old Republic remake, I am very excited for the concept. If you click on this link, you're going to see a trailer. It's one minute and seven seconds. And like, yeah, it looks cool, except there's text at the bottom of the screen that says not actual gameplay. And it's like the most simple freaking cinematic you could ever imagine that is not actual gameplay and is very likely and possibly not an engine. So it just means nothing like ah um okay

this is exciting because i never played kotor back in the day and i've wanted them to make a remake like this whole time because as much as i like retro games man kotor is particularly really painful it's like going back and trying to play like balder's gate or something like it the mechanics how you move around how you interact with things how you do all that kind of stuff is really bad like it's it's genuinely kind of like tough to slog through i've tried a couple times and i've never really made it through even though the game is quite interesting so i'm pretty excited for the remake, but what a waste of a trailer. There's definitely some other interesting games. This Forspoken game, some of the graphics in it look just incredible.

Some of the other graphics in it look very old and not good, which is kind of confusing. Sometimes I'm like, like wow that's like really close to photorealistic that's amazing to be on like a ps5 and then you'll see their hair just move as if like nvidia hair works was never invented and it's just like wait what's happening why um but the effects if you're if you're more of the am persuasion. Yeah, yeah. It looks interesting, though, for sure. And then, yeah, I don't know. There's some other interesting stuff, but a lot of it's PlayStation exclusives.

Tiny Tina's Wonderland looks like it could be potentially interesting, but I haven't really been interested in something from that line in a while. Yeah, I don't know all right uh grand theft auto 5 being delayed is like genuinely hilarious i don't know if there's notes about that in here yeah there is just that it's delayed until uh like march of 2022 or something like how dude i i don't know how can a game that's already out be so so delayed and you know like a bunch of people would buy it too that's the crazy part it's just free money on the table and they're just like we'll do it later i don't know you never know though it's possible that rockstar is working

on something behind the scenes that is going to blow all of our minds away yeah but lots of companies outsource the uh the um and how well does that work out for them luke yeah i mean not exactly that how well does that work out for them so sometimes it works out quite well usually well you can't have it both ways luke we always say release it when it's done so you know what i say you release gta5 when it's done which by my watch is 10 years ago so time ago gta5 release date when did it come out so 2013 excuse me sorry eight years ago my bad my bad no i'm just teasing i'm just teasing rockstar i'm sure you guys are working on something that's amazing. Something better than this. Oh boy.

So check out this press release from Facebook. That's right. Smart glasses are here that basically look the same. Oh no, there's music. Oh, awful. See you later. Smart glasses are here that basically look like regular old fashionable frames, which is really cool if you're into wearing smart glasses and kind of terrifying

if you're into not wearing smart glasses, but being anywhere near someone who happens to be wearing smart glasses like, say for example a bathroom so they start at $299 which is kind of crazy to me because essler luxottica and facebook this must be this must be that facebook um subsidy money you know how the oculus quest 2 is like by hundreds of dollars the best value vr headset on the market by a country mile like not even close well that's the facebook subsidy money that is making it so affordable and estler luxottica is not exactly known for um no no they're they're they're very happy to have their uh their monopoly.

I was going to make a joke if I opened this topic. I was planning on making a joke with Facebook and the only company that makes sunglasses have teamed up to make a free Pan Story sunglasses. Pretty much. So if this is coming in at $299 with dual 5 megapixel cameras that can record video and photos from this first person perspective you can bet that facebook is subsidizing the crap out of it because they are expecting some kind of real awesome data now video recording is capped at 30 seconds to address privacy concerns but the quality is a square 1184 at 30 frames per second.

So that's 1184 by 1184. They have four gigs of storage, meaning that you could record probably a fair number of 1184 30p clips. But mostly videos and photos are managed and stored in a separate Facebook View app. The sunglasses include a triple microphone system for audio recording, phone calls, Mostly videos and photos are managed and stored in a separate Facebook view app. The sunglasses include a triple microphone system for audio recording, phone calls, and Facebook Assistant,

which I actually did not even know they had. And there are speakers in the arms for audio playback. These are not headphones or bone conduction. They are speakers. The selling point is they're comfortable, fashionable, and lightweight, just like normal sunglasses, and make basically every other smart glasses we've seen so far look kind of bulky and stupid. But that also makes it hard to tell that they are video and audio recording devices. And you might think, oh, well, whatever, it's in the news. Everyone's just going to know that Facebook sunglasses are a thing. And, you know, if you're wearing sunglasses inside, they'll just be like, oh, yeah, those are Facebook glasses. I can I can see the lens

through the thing. But you got to understand not everybody, you know, consumes tech news and not every way that these could be used to covertly record someone would be that obvious say for example everyone consumes tech news i know right they should they should not everyone sees the quick bits you need your daily dose of tech news okay go to tech link three times a week um so what if they're not wearing them right what if they throw them in a in an upper pocket and just you know part of it is sticking up out of the pocket or they throw the arm over the pocket kind of thing and it's hanging on the front of them you you wouldn't necessarily look that

closely at that you might not realize that you are being recorded um they have a little light. Yeah. But I mean, with the bands, you can just like sharpie over the light or like put electrical tape on it or something. Like, I don't know. Yeah. It's interesting. Now, Facebook says that to address privacy concerns, they worked with a list of advocacy groups that they consulted when they were developing the glasses. But New York Times reporter Ryan Mack noted that Facebook has actually funded at least four out of these five groups that they said they consulted. At least. At least.

It might be all five. It could be all five, for all we know oh my goodness i mean to be honest with you the i the the um the prospect of being able to record truly first person view footage is really exciting to me as a as a content creator um one of the times that i did it was the uh pov pc build uh this video right here something just while you're bringing that up something i would say is is however you feel about this and say these get banned by the government like they never even come out so your opinions don't even matter basically never assume privacy that would be a big tip yeah never pick your nose in your car ever again um so right so what's so cool about this video is that instead of having the webcam on top of my head like people

would normally mount them if they had any sense uh it was actually the webcam, excuse me, GoPro. It was actually mounted to a headband and then upside down. So the camera was right in front of my eyes. And that's why compared to when people wear like a helmet mounted GoPro, it looks and feels way more natural. Just that few inches, but just that few inches, having the lens closer to where your eyes would actually be makes an enormous difference to the consumption of this type of content. way more shareable experiences with this technology. I just, I have deep concerns. Honestly, not even the video so much. Like the audio too, just being able to, if it's got a three microphone array,

I am willing to bet, especially based on what Facebook, like the kind of R&d that they've been doing around uh audio for vr for example i am willing to bet this microphone is pretty darn good for something that can be concealed on your body in a way that most average people would never notice all right yeah uh i know when uh when google glass came out there was a special name for people that wore them glass which you didn't even use the button oh well i didn't say a bad word glass is not a bad word and holes is not a bad word therefore a compound word made up of those two words glass holes cannot be a bad word fair yeah easy solved um that was a big thing people like really really stood up against it yeah

haven't seen that this time around i think there's been a lot of decent is it desensitization to this type of stuff lately um and it just yeah i think this one might make it through float plane chat is just going on about porn uh john wick says it could be useful as a dash cam for riding a bike unfortunately not because it is limited to 30 second clips at a time uh john says i'd be way more okay with this if literally anyone else made it besides facebook but should you be i mean would it be any better having people just be able to have access to it in some way yeah um oh yeah man there's there's so much uh cordy sam says the arguments against these glasses are no different than phones you know you

could already secretly record anyone with your phone it's it is more difficult uh and someone someone brought this up uh punit said i've seen some disgusting stuff here in city i'm not going to name a particular city but i've seen a guy filming a girl from behind on a flight of stairs in public like if people could do it without pulling out their phone... Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. Good point. The Mad Maker says hackers can already make them.

Yeah, that's fair, but they wouldn't be as... No offense. Stylish and innocuous. All right, our last big topic for the day is riot will be enforcing tpm and secure boot in valorant on windows 11 pcs now you picked this as a headline topic tell me why you think this is that important uh because nothing else that was in here was really that important and i find it kind of interesting um because riot the last time they did this they did it they did a whole ring zero bs thing that people were upset about now they're doing tpm um i really like the idea that they are hardcore cracking down on cheaters in specifically the shooter

game space. Yeah. The first person shooter space. There's cheaters in basically everything. But, but cheating in first person shooters has been really rough for quite a while now. Back when,

when we were the youngins cheating in first person shooters was absolutely a thing but i would highly argue that it was a lot less common because it was really rough and these days it's very easy to the point where they will run ads on like youtube to try to get you to go to their website and you go to their website you pay through a payment processor that isn't even that scary you run a program and you're done and you're cheating it's not complicated it's it's very very accessible um and that has made it really really crazy like almost every shooter game is just completely rampant with cheating. And the thing that really gets me is how common it is that streamers end up getting caught

after they've been streaming for a long time and have a quite established audience. Yeah. Like it's pervasive. It's horrible. So I'm happy that they're doing something about it. It feels really weird adding any amount of tracking stuff to a computer.

I do wonder at a certain point if we've been talking for a long time about how consoles are becoming computers. This topic kind of piqued my interest of whether gaming computers are going to console-ify slightly. Interesting. So rather than consoles PC-ifying, or I mean, it's been happening, but they'll reach PC-ification.

It's a little bit of both. It's a convergence. And PCs will get console-ified. If you want it to be really gaming. Meanwhile, Valve is going full-bore gaming on Linux, where I would imagine it would be more difficult to enforce. I mean, I don't know. I guess Riot could technically enforce TPM.

You know what? I'm going to be honest with you. I have never even thought about whether TPM does anything on Linux or works on Linux. TPM on Linux. In Unix and Linux, the global temperature... Oh, no. No. TMP. Whoops. Whoops. Whoops. Whoops. There we go. Trust platform module. Arch. Wiki. Secure. Crypto processor. Dedicated. Okay. So I guess nothing would actually prevent Riot from requiring TPM on Linux as well.

We just don't necessarily have an answer to that yet. They are not enforcing this on Windows 10, which is interesting. Windows 10 users are not locked out despite TPM 2.0 being launched years ago. So they're saying they're good with people cheating as long as it's on windows 10 and as long as it's only for the next four years or so at which point maybe they can consider dropping support for windows 10 this is clearly a this is clearly a moving forward um goal yeah but yeah it's it's it's very interesting to me cheating in shooters is absolutely a very deep problem for basically every shooter.

Like it's unfortunate, but it is that pervasive. So something has to be done. I don't know if this is the necessarily solution that I would want, but at this point in time, if I wanted to be competitive in a shooter game... You'd support it, basically. it basically maybe yeah just run a different operating system for the other things that you want to do i don't know have a different boot drive do something else but like realize or that yeah like you can you can find some form of

solution but um yeah there needs to be stronger enforcement and it's very very difficult to do that and i don't know how i would do it so i haven't necessarily thought of something better than this i mean some of the cheats are extremely difficult yeah there's i don't know how you would detect them because they're so close to operating as a human user would like they'll even go as far as to have it running on a separate machine separate computer then emulates mouse and keyboard inputs like just plugs into the the gaming machine it's like okay how do you how do you those are crazy there's stuff too like this this is i mean this is just major design issues but um there used to be a thing in tarkarkov I've heard there's similar things going on still but I don't know if it's true

where you would have a completely different computer and they would be able to sniff like traffic for any lobby ID and you could check your lobby ID while you're in the game so you would just select your lobby ID and then it would show you all the loot, all the players, where everyone was facing at every point in time. So you could like creep up on people and know if they were looking at you and everything. And it was running on a separate computer.

So like one of the ways that streamers were getting caught was you'd see the streamer playing and doing this. Constantly, but not interfacing with the chat. And they'd go like, there's one in front of us around the corner and it was like okay come on and they would just do it too many times and their audience would call them out um but like that's that's that's ridiculous right you can't catch that person um that that just i mean that has to be fixed yeah not if they're not streaming like there's there's no way to know yeah that has to be fixed at a design level but outside of that um hey you're getting accused you're getting accused here twitch plays dion says luke sure do know a lot about hacks and cheating sus yeah i'm uh you can check my records i'm not good enough for that but that's um that's fair

i would be doing better if i was cheating i i swear um but i mean it's it was so rampant in i don't know these days i haven't played tarkov for a little bit now um i haven't been playing the new wipe but uh it was very rampant a while ago and this was like brought to light by a lot of the community there was a youtube stream um it wasn't live we were able to figure that out pretty easily so they were trying to like spoof it as live but it wasn't live but there was a youtube stream that was basically just constantly up for a super long time um of someone running like tarkov cheats just like killing entire lobbies and taking all their stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over again it was crazy oh wow it was nuts um and it happens in all these other games it's it's just it's all

over the shooter space so yeah work being done against that wow i'm getting wrecked down in the float plane chat true scott says from linus's last game of supreme commander i'm pretty sure he isn't cheating okay i was trying to host a video at the same time oh wait no that wasn't my last one okay all right i wasn't in the right headspace i wasn't in the right headspace i i screwed that game up pretty bad it was pretty bad why is this why is it subcom is a difficult game yeah it was pretty bad pretty darn good at subcom no no no no no no i'm i'm i'm fine i'm not good okay it okay in the community of people that still play supreme commander you might be fine but if we threw like the entire lobby of everyone watching uh this show right now i bet you very few of them could beat you yeah but that's just not understanding the gameplay mechanics like that i mean sort of

it's an extremely complicated game it's more complicated than an average game but i would make the argument that a game like team fortress 2 is as complicated as supreme commander there is a lot of gameplay depth there there is lots and like it got to the point where i a supreme commander big nerd was like this is too complicated once they launched all the different weapons that people could have and all the different hats they could wear and i was just like yeah i i can't i can't be constantly keeping up with whatever the new meta is like i i come in here to play this tightly balanced gaming experience because it was extremely well balanced og tf2 is fantastic i still you know i still like playing some og tf2 yeah yeah

i wouldn't say okay blue sky says cs go is really complicated i wouldn't make the art i i would say that it's a different kind of of complicated it's deep in the way that chess is deep. But, you know, fundamentally, chess only has, you know, whatever it works out to, six different pieces or seven different pieces, and they only move in a few ways. What makes it deep is all the different ways, based on what your opponent is doing, that you can configure those moves. It's functionally infinite, right? CSGO is like that, but there's only, you know, a couple dozen guns. You don't have to, it's not like you have to mix and match the different like ammunitions that go in the guns like you would have to with something like Tarkov. You don't have to memorize, you don't have to sit

and like kind of memorize the rule book. Like it's a fundamentally simple game, but with unlimited depth. So I'd say it's more like a chess. Whereas I would compare something like TF2 with all the different weapons and all the different hats and all the different maps and all the different game modes. It's closer to something like a D&D, where you basically have to study for two weeks to have any hope of recognizing the thing across the battlefield from you and having any idea what it might be trying to do. Do you kind of follow me here?

Does that make sense? Yeah, I think with how the economy works and the varied build orders and the the map strategy differences and stuff subcom is is quite quite crazy i would say and this comes from someone who and someone in the chat just said and then there's eve i was going to say and this comes from someone who played eve for quite a while subcom is like its own beast now hold on a second hold on a second did tech ingredients just make a thermal paste i need to order this all right we're gonna have to we're gonna have to do this

i'm messaging alex right now okay we're gonna review tech ingredients thermal paste man we're gonna have to make sure we do it up right. Dang. All right. We got to get through some super chats, and I think that's pretty much it for the show today. Frosty Dog. Which broad term identifies anyone impacted by a business, including but not limited to stockholders, employees, and customers. Anyone impacted by a business? I don't know. Oh, shoot. Oh, no. Wait. There's a really important news item. Where is it? Where's the link? LTTstore.com. Okay, guys. Wait, huh? The page is broken. Nick, hello. Okay, there's a new product.

Apparently the page is not up yet. I will provide the link soon. It is going to be the one and only, or rather there will be 69 of them. But we are doing a limited edition lanyard. Okay. It is, I believe it's the one that I'm using. You guys might not have noticed, but I don't just have the regular pink lanyard. The text is actually in green thread. So it's a Lambo edition. Only 70 of them were made. The one in my pocket and 69 more. It's going up on the store. It's going to come with a limited edition, uh, sparkly Lambo sticker. Uh, the link works now. There you go. Here's where it is. Uh, sparkly lambo sticker and a certificate of authenticity okay these will be hand signed by yours truly uh this is number one of 69 i have a whole box of them here that maybe i'll do an after party stream or something like that i will sign them on stream so you guys will know it was actually by my hand uh they are 69 69 and you guys are probably going to want to move pretty fast if

you want to get one because that's kind of how these things roll should we should we do this live luke yes all right okay wait oh it's not under the regular lanyard skew so i don't even have the right page open hold on a second hold on a second control f on a second. Control F, Lambo. All right, well, one of them's gone already. Someone managed to get through the cart already. Actually, let's do some super chats. Let's do some super chats. Aryan says, my budget is about $100,000. More than one of them are gone.

Oh, are they? Six are gone. Okay. uh six are gone okay uh arian says my budget is a hundred thousand inr or 1360 usd any laptop a thousand usd in the u.s would cost 1300 okay my usage after effects with 300 timelines at the same time in war zone uh your best bet is going to be like a budget gaming laptop something like a how much is a helios helios 300 let me have a look here oh no the helios is not what i was thinking of hold on a second man what's their um do you have any idea what acer's budget gaming laptop is Any idea what Acer's budget gaming laptop is? Alex would know.

You know what you really need to do is you need to... Nitro? Oh, it could be the Nitro 5. Yeah, it's probably the Nitro 5. Okay, here we go. I'm going to get you that recommendation, brah. Okay, I'm going to get you that recommendation. Core i5-9300H, GTX 1650. That's quite a bit less than $1,000, though. You could probably step up to, man,

Lenovo Legion has some really, really performance stuff in that price range. in that price range. How much is the Y540? You're getting hand selected tech tips, okay? Man, that one starts at $1,200 but it really is a lot better. There is one lanyard available. That's it? There's one left. Okay, well that went... oh yep, yep. Okay, well uh see you later lanyards and it's gone hey thanks for playing everyone okay our kayubi says any advice for a long run hdmi 2.1 cable uh okay right so the y540 if you can afford it something like a nitro 5 if you don't want to go that ham um i'd say those are those are good starting points and then you could find other ones kind of similar to that as well all right uh

kayubis long hdmi 2.0 run from a pc to a tv across the room i'm worried that directional fiber optic cables might lose features uh or something gamer specific that is a good question. Do active optical cables support things like variable refresh rate? I would think so. All you can really do is try it. Wow, what an excellent, wonderful question that now I kind of want to find the answer to. Maybe we should do like a short or something like that. Man, I don't remember the

last time i got such an such an outstanding tech question from the audience that was just like holy crap that is something not only have we never made a video about i never even thought about optical cable directional vrr support question mark Because the thing with active cables is that it's not like a passive cable where you could have an HDMI 1.4 certified cable, and if it's just a short run, it'll work fine at HDMI 2.0 or 2.1 speeds. This is a totally different game. Mal says, Hey Linus, is there going to be a full review of the Odyssey Neo G9?

Just got mine. It turns out HDR is totally broken. Hub have updated their review to do not buy really it was working for ours did they update something and break it uh okay looks like we've got another really good request for video Odyssey G9 revisit non-sponsored. So we had some trouble with HDR when we did the sponsored video, but it was only because we had a second non-HDR display connected, and that caused some problems that, as far as we can tell, were the fault of Windows, not the fault of the monitor. So I'm going to have to definitely have a look,

and we'll see if that's maybe something that got broken by an update. Redwolf says, hey, I took your advice and took my 3080 back to Micro Center. They took it back after hearing about gigabytes and difference, even though it was past the return date. Got a 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra instead. Hey, thank you. Hey, no problem, Redwolf. Florian says, would you consider reviewing a VR haptic suit like the BH Haptics Best and add-ons? There's that two niche. I would

love to know if and which parts are worth it. Man, it's not really our jam, but I mean, you asked so nicely and you did send me 20 euros. I'll at least consider it. I'm putting this in the list, which is also known as an email to myself. VR Haptic Suit Review. All right. Okay, wow. It looks like half the super chats are just kind of questions and stuff like that.

Spaceman says, Hey, thanks for telling me to switch from AT Jank to Rack Mount. As a thank you, we have named our 20-bay monster Anthony, decided by poll. Hey, nice. Pierce says, want to buy a Ferrari wheel and build a PC in it? Also, do you know anyone who needs just one Ferrari wheel? Like a wheel?

Like from a car? Not like a racing wheel? Like an actual wheel? I don't think so. think i'm good you should get them to send it to you and you should build a ferrari wheel pc um it's been done there's been some wheel pcs done before but one from an actual ferrari could be kind of cool angelus 000 asks when will the ltt screwdriver be released we are hoping we will hit this calendar year. We've solved most of the problems and we are almost ready to go into mass production. I'm really excited. Also, how did you get connected to Hasan Piker for his build?

Just saw he was building and messaged. Seems like a cool dude. So yeah, we're going to get working on that. I should have a writer assigned to it next week. Let's see here. Administrator says, Hello, dear Linus. My dear balls itch,

and I've used many creams to take care of the issue. Will you ever provide a product at LTT that can resolve this? One of these days, I think we're planning to do an unboxing knife. I think you could probably use that to cut them off. That would solve the problem, but it would also create new problems. So you let me know if that's what you're into, administrator. Did you know that Louis Rossman made a Framework video? No, I didn't.

He did. Oh, what did Louis have to say about it he made it in february um the title sounds like it's going to be really negative um oh but i guess it was pretty positive the like to dislike ratio on the video was really high framework responded um with some really good responses he responded to framework with this is a response to their response number one this is beautiful number two this is amazing number three this is great number four just some questions number five this is fine number six this is beautiful so he seems very happy which is good oh well that's great uh lewis's endorsement means a lot to me and actually

i wouldn't watch the whole video it looks like he's happy with their responses i don't know three videos so there's another one a month ago um and another one streamed yesterday uh with actual hands-on with it i guess i found the wrong one that is awesome and ifixit gave it a 10 out of 10 um for their teardown so guys i shot today the video announcing that i did go ahead with my investment in framework and i'm not going to spoil everything it's actually a really good video you guys should definitely watch it uh but i will tell you guys one thing that comes right at the end of the video and that's really uh important to me and was a pivotal pivotal part of making this decision uh let me see if i can find it

here you put up a lot of content recently so this is from this is from the founder uh and he says and this is the exact words we do promise not to f**k up from a pro-consumer and pro-environment perspective and you would be fully justified in holding us to the fire if we break that promise whether or not you invest so what i have committed at the end of that video is that, among other things, really, it's a great video. Go watch it. What I've committed is that if they fall off this pro-consumer, pro-environment path, my breakup with them will be public, messy, and absolute. So that's my commitment to you guys. so far they seem to be taking their mission extremely seriously and i'm really excited to to have a front seat uh on this crazy ride

uh wan chong says would you consider revisiting the used graphics card testing to include real industry standard lifetime conditioning yes who should i reach out to with more info uh you should reach out to the publicly available email on the youtube channel we do we do monitor that i don't but someone does uh mr cream or says do you mother lovers sell any ltd merch locally i want to be an ltd shill but i'm too impulsive for ship times we've considered doing pop-ups but that was something we were just starting to look into in the months leading up to well covid and like getting big crowds of people together in person hasn't really been a thing for the last 18 months so um you know yeah yeah yeah we we've considered it but it's not something that

is on the on the roadmap right now uh josh says lewis is super stoked about the framework you should check his new community posts i would expect that he would be they seem to be taking it extremely seriously i like oh man i'm not gonna buy one because i'm too cheap and i have a laptop that works but this this has been probably one of the most tempting tech releases in a long time for me to personally buy because the like hardware nerd in me just wants one because they're so cool like and i'm to be very transparent, Linus is talking to you guys about investment. I have no skin in this game at all.

There's no reason for me to care outside of it just being really cool. Yep, fair enough. And it genuinely just seems really cool. I am going to watch this entire hour-long Lewis Rossman video just because it's exciting. This is such a cool moment in computing and I really, really, really hope that it works long term because this would be awesome. If I do buy another laptop as of right now, I don't know, it could change, but as of right now,

it would be this guaranteed. And I think that's it for the show today thank you so much for tuning in guys uh thank you to everyone who uh got themselves a lambo edition lanyard along with the sticker and certificate of authenticity um 69 of you placed orders and will presumably proudly rock your Lambo edition lanyard. For many years, because these things never break, I finally, in order to switch to the pink one, I ditched my black one, but not because it was anywhere near showing any signs of giving up whatsoever. I love these lanyards. They're awesome. Okay, I think we're just going to roll that outro,

and bye-bye, guys. Bye! Bye! Oh, I guess I owe them a stream later. So, uh, yeah. Give me a bit of time though, probably. You owe them a stream later. Yeah, give me a bit of time, though, probably. I don't know. You owe them a stream later?

Yeah, because I've got to sign all these things. Oh.