The WAN Show - Apple's 40-Core Desktop is Coming! - WAN Show May 21, 2021

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about that later. What else we got? TVs just really aren't actually all that cheap anymore due to continued chip shortage problems. We'll talk about that. And also, where is it? In the future, your truck might power your whole house. In Soviet future, truck powers you. I also want to talk about a video that was posted on the Lion's Tentative's float plane recently. Yeah, the intro's rolling. Oh, I saw that late rip. Oh, man.

Where'd it go? Some people are mad. Some people are mad about my title. What? Why? What's your title? What? The title of the stream today? What's your title? What? The title of the stream today.

Apple's 44 desktop is coming. So am I. They're mad about it? Well, I don't know. It's like they don't understand what words mean. It's like, I'm coming to you live. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. Get your mind out of the gutter. You disgusting. You didn't do the, I don't think you did the things. Disgusting people. Oh, the show is brought to you today by Linode, Shells, and Corsair. Oh, yeah. Hey. Thanks, guys.

Thanks, guys. Keep giving me money. All right. Let's jump right into our first topic here. Apple's Pro desktop could have up to 40 cores. This rumor was broken by Mark Gurman about Apple's impending ARM transition plans. And there's actually a handful of rumors. Let's get through all of them. So first up is that new MacBook Pros, a 14-inch and 16-inch,

are shockingly coming featuring Apple Silicon. I don't think anybody saw this coming. New Macs with Apple Silicon? No, no. They were going to have this segmented line forever. Apple Silicon. I don't think anybody saw this coming. New Macs with Apple Silicon? No, no. They were going to have this segmented line forever. Apple Silicon and Intel living in perfect harmony. No, no, not happening. Apple doesn't like doing their own thing in-house ever. No, they're going to have four Thunderbolt ports,

HDMI and an SD card slot. Man, having HDMI back. How freaking awesome is that going to be for all the people that don't have HDMI on their laptop already? Like, what an upgrade. I actually ran a Dell XPS 13 2-in-1 as a daily driver for almost a year, I think. And that was the thing that drove me most crazy. I thought it was going to be USB, like a USB Type-A. And from time to time, that was pretty obnoxious

because my YubiKey is a Type-A and I do like to use a mouse if I'm actually sitting and doing something for a while at the computer. I don't really prefer wireless mice, Bluetooth. I find noticeably, noticeably laggy I man I just love to see an industry standard for something like Logitech's light speed I was gonna say have you have you properly tried light speed because light speed feels really good well yeah but I

mean you need a dongle they're all type a so so basically you're stuck with a dongle no matter what if you want to plug a decent mouse into your laptop. But that wasn't the one that drove me most crazy. The one that drove me most crazy most often was not having HDMI because you never know if you're going to be somewhere doing something. Like, for example, I was working on that, um, that badminton game streaming setup at the badminton center. It's amazing how many people saw that streaming setup and were like

eww creepy Linus watching kids you guys understand that the reason it's all on a computer running OBS is because they control the whole thing locally right like do you guys think I'm a f***ing idiot I just don't understand the kinds of comments on videos sometimes like

oh creepy pedophile vibes if i was one of the parents i'd be out if you were one of the parents you'd be doing what all the parents are doing and sending me thankful messages that you get to watch your kids tournament that's what actually happened you morons anyway sorry i digress during covid when they're not supposed to be there well they're not allowed. That's the whole point. That's why we did it. Linus gave the infrastructure to the club to be able to serve this to their customers because they wouldn't have done it otherwise. And now it's better for everyone.

And the other thing is like the people that assume that it was just a constant live stream. Like, what? It's like, you don't even understand how this works. 99% of the time, they're just recording locally so that they can like do coaching and analysis on their games that they play. Like anyway, so I was there working on it and I was having an issue with one of the capture devices. And theoretically it was supposed to be getting a signal from the camera, but you know, it wasn't. And the thing about a camera is that it's not that easy to, uh, you know, change the output resolution or frame rate or format or whatever else.

So it's really hard to troubleshoot. Is my capture card actually dead or is this an issue with the camera? And just having a laptop that you can just plug an HDMI cable into and use to diagnose can be extremely useful. Or if you're, I mean, I never travel anymore and give presentations or anything, but even if you're just having a meeting, you want to quickly throw something up on the projector at work. Man, it's a pain in the butt to have to dig into your bag for a dongle. And I'm glad that Apple is leading the charge back to sanity by putting some ports on their freaking products. Because as soon as Apple does it, the entire rest

of the industry will go, okay, let's all do the same thing now. Thanks, Apple. Great idea. Without really giving it any thought whatsoever, as far as I can tell. And so I just, it's one of those things where I don't actually daily drive a ton of Apple products, particularly Macs, because I just, I prefer, I'm more familiar with Windows. Honestly, I don't hate Mac OS. It's just, I'm more familiar with Windows. And unless I'm at work, I'm playing video games on my computer and Macs just ain't perfect for that. Um, so, so it's, it's not like I actually daily drive them, but I still have to care what they do. A lot of people ask, like, why do you guys cover so much Apple stuff at Linus tech tips? It's obvious you hate them or that you,

you don't use them or whatever. The reason is because it's so important to the industry what apple does the entire rest of the industry will copy often worse so you need apple to be setting the golden standard for the behavior that you want to see in the rest of the industry because otherwise it's going to just proliferate like It does seem like very consistently everyone will take the chance to cop out. Absolutely. If Apple kind of drops the ball somewhere, they'll be like, nice, that's the bar and I can go slightly below it. Exactly.

It's very uncommon that people will be like, oh, we can go much above the standard that they set. One quick thing that I want to mention about the wireless mouse for laptop thing. Yes. We were talking recently about big clunky gaming laptops. Yeah. I don't know how expensive this would be. It probably doesn't make like a ton of sense

because there's so many different mice companies. You don't know what your customer is going to buy and stuff. But it would be pretty sweet if there was like built-in light speed. You know what? Microsoft could probably pull it off. They have excellent low latency wireless that they have built into their Xbox controllers already. This seems like the kind of thing

that they could probably do. And if it was as simple as so many mouse manufacturers, especially on premium products, will have two radios. They'll have a Bluetooth radio and they'll have like a high performance radio or they'll have one radio that can switch to multi-modes. I'm not actually sure

if they have completely separate chips for them. I kind-modes. I'm not actually sure if they have completely separate chips for them. I kind of doubt it. That wouldn't be very power efficient. Anyway, the point is, I am willing to bet that over a span of five to six years, you would see people productize laptops and desktops that have support for Microsoft's low latency wireless. And you would probably see peripheral makers embrace that because you already know that it can handle up to four inputs. Actually, can it do more? The latest one? I'm actually not sure if it can do a maximum of four or eight controllers per dongle. So you already know it can do that. You already know it's low latency.

You already know it's reasonably low power. I would love to see Microsoft just open up that standard so we could have low latency peripherals everywhere. Maybe chat's lighting up with like, hey, they've already done it, but yeah. Eight controllers. So there's just- I haven't seen anyone say anything.

Yeah, I would be, man, I would be, I'd be super excited for something like that. Isn't there a low latency Bluetooth HID spec that peripheral makers should be using? I think so, but I'm pretty sure it's not good enough. I think we're talking like beyond that. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

And like the Logitech Lightspeed one, I just know that one and like it a lot, which is why I mentioned it. But yeah, some form of standard would make significantly more sense. Yeah. Because a Corsair has their own, do they call it Sl it slipstream i think they call it i don't know everyone's got their own like sub one millisecond wireless interface and it would just be nice if there was an industry standard so that we didn't have to rely on bluetooth forever yeah um all right so let's get back on topic a little bit here these will be running upgraded cpus these new macbook pros

known internally as jade c chop and jade c die okay both include eight high performance cores and two energy efficient cores and will be offered in either 16 or 32 graphics core variations and can have up to 64 gigs of ram this is that's a far more professional sounding configuration than the MacBook Pro that we did get last time around that was limited to just 16 gigs, which is fine a few years ago, but really not ideal for anything with Pro in the name today. Unless it's an iPad Pro.

I'm still pretty stoked on the new iPad Pro. There's a new Mac Pro though. This, oh, this will apparently be coming sometime down the line and will be powered by code name Jade 2C die and Jade 4C die. So these will be 20 or 40 core configurations with 16 or 32 high performance cores, and then four to eight efficient cores. Like imagine that you've got an eight core CPU that's like your power sipping, barely doing anything one. GPUs would be either 64 or 128 core options. And while these will probably have to be clocked lower in order to hit those kinds of core counts, I would expect based on what we've

seen so far from Apple Silicon that they're not going to be clocked that much lower and these are going to be absolute monsters in terms of performance. Design and engineering has apparently been in the works for several months and is expected to look like a smaller version of the current design. I don't know what smaller version of the current design means but maybe they meant that it's going to be built on a new process node and then it'll just be kind of multiplied uh we don't know i think i think they're not talking about the processor there oh oh the actual shape of the machine yeah yeah okay yeah i was like uh that would be pretty weird i know there's folks out there working on kind of uh um you know taking microscope shots of apple's m1 silicon and trying to figure out exact trying to connect the dots figure out exactly how it works like is it modular

what do the internal buses look like i know that I know that kind of work is going on right now, but I thought that's what we were talking about. Okay. There will apparently also be a new Pro Mac Mini codenamed J374. I actually love this because looking at the existing M1 Mac Mini, there's no reason that there couldn't be way more computer in there it's basically a mostly empty shell so and like the mac mini honestly is my favorite mac you can i'm on the record saying that i think it is super a lot of there's a lot more value there too it's super quiet it's incredibly small now that it's running m1 silicon it's powerful it doesn't throttle it's like it's cheap it's actually cheap it's like a computer for everyone but it runs mac os it's like you pick up one of those grab some cheap peripherals and a monitor off craigslist you are up and running

with a computer that is probably going to be getting os support for like somewhere between 7 and 12 years that's it that's all the computer that your auntie needs for the next decade in all likelihood like that's a lot of bang for the buck if you could if you could have a decent computer for eight dollars a month that sounds pretty reasonable right you think about it that way and actually i was rounding up to a thousand dollars they started like seven hundred dollars or six hundred dollars i can't remember it's weird these days uh i mean it's been a really long time since this was normal but it's weird these days to talk about apple and like value bang for the buck baby bang for the buck but yeah mac minis have always just kind of

been there and been a pretty good idea yep and now they're just a better idea than before now i'm really curious i have to know um oh man not united arab emirates not united kingdom united states thank you uh apple's one of those sites that you can't just manually navigate to the u.s site it'll it will redirect you until you go to the Canadian one and go down to the bottom. No, I really do not want this one. Yeah, it starts at $700. So that's a freaking heck of a deal. All right, so the new Pro Mac Mini is going to be even better. It's going to have four Thunderbolt ports, same chips as the MacBook Pros.

And they're apparently been working on a larger iMac, but development was paused for the release of the 24-inch colored model. And they're doing a redesign higher-end MacBook Air. MacBook Air, man, why did Apple do that product so dirty over the years? Like, it was the only thin and light

that mattered on the market for, I mean, forever. It kind of defined that whole sector, didn't it? It really did. It defined the algebra. That ad where you put the MacBook Air in the envelope was actually like, I have never been a Mac guy. I shared that to like everyone that I knew. I was like, this is so cool.

This is like the future of laptops. This is the future of like tech. Like, oh my goodness, this is wild. It is like the future of laptops this is the future of like tech like oh my goodness this is wild i moved the bar it changed the expectations and then for years it just had this like tier low resolution screen even though the mat and then the macbook came out and it was basically the air but better in every way but then you could still get a macbook air for some reason like they just yeah they started making air like the the cheapo option instead of like the really thin sleek option which is weird because they had fantastic branding for that like everyone understood what it was yep the intentionally worse option like when they just

didn't put cooling in it even though they absolutely had all the space in the world to do it they essentially changed it from like air to to like the the light like l-i-t-e like this is the yeah this is the cut down version instead of the this is the like slim sleek and awesome one yeah so i'm i'm glad to hear that they're gonna have a proper high-end macbook air so uh it'll be using the m1 successor code named statin with faster cpu cores and probably two more gpu cores in other news hopefully you guys care about apple stuff airpods max doesn't support apple music's lossless quality and here's my hot take who gives a you want to talk talk us through this one luke uh sure apple's 549 airpod max won't support their new lossless service rolling out in june uh neither will other airpods to be clear but i

believe uh we use those ones for the title because they're the big juicy expensive ones apple music lossless will stream clean audio that is a bit identical to the original master. Starts at CD quality, goes as high as audio file, which is 24-bit, 192 kilohertz, which is like kind of wild for mobile. It's kind of wild in general, but also specifically wild for mobile. The issue boils down to the fact that Bluetooth caps out at three megabits per second in total. Apple's typical Bluetooth bit rate is 250 kilobits per second, which lines up with AAC.

Bluetooth's highest bitrate codec can stream near one megabit per second, which is the Sony LDAC. Bitrate isn't a concern for lossless quality, but it does determine what you can stream, yada, yada. Either way, they're not compatible which is which is funny uh but i kind of agree linus is with linus's stance that it's not really that big of a deal uh i mean i don't necessarily expect to get the full bang of the buck out of lossless quality from airpods max and i would kind of argue that if you did a blind taste test, most people couldn't tell the difference between lossless and loss files, even on setups where you probably could tell the difference. If you thought you were going to get around this, by the way, by using a lightning to

three and a half millimeter adapter, no. AirPods Max only take digital input. So if you're listening over three and a half millimeters, actually converting that digital input to analog using a DAC. So, whoops. And then it's going into the AirPods by converting from analog to digital. Yeah, so you're basically adding extra noise to the signal. So if your whole thing is that you want

the most lossless possible experience, that is definitely not the solution. However, leaker John Prosser says a new firmware may let AirPods Max do lossless. Wi-Fi is not nearly as limited as Bluetooth in terms of bandwidth, not even close. And Apple may turn on AirPlay support for the AirPods Max for lossless streams.

Prosser goes as far as to say that Apple is planning on it. Apple also filed a patent in 2019 that would increase Bluetooth to 8 megabit per second. The thing, though, is that, guys, guys. Okay, like Luke said, have you actually listened to AirPods Max, Luke? No, and I have heard they're very good, but I still have a hard time believing. You know, like I've done tests with like pretty high-end audio gear

where you try different audio files, like the actual files. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know. It's pretty hard. It's pretty hard to tell. And especially when you're like testing yourself, it's pretty hard to tell like, okay, is this placebo? Because I know what It's pretty hard. It's pretty hard to tell. And especially when you're testing yourself, it's pretty hard to tell like, okay, is this placebo because I know what file I just

opened? Or do I actually hear a difference? And it's pretty hard to discern. So being able to do that with mobile earbuds is, yeah. Yeah. And the thing is that it's not like all is lost because it's part of the point of lossless audio files is kind of a garbage in sort of garbage out way of thinking about it. So if you have if you have lossy files and then a lossy streaming codec to your imperfect headphones, you're basically kind of you're you're changing the original sound three times at three separate stages however if you have a lossless file that is then being streamed in a lossy format to your imperfect headphones you're basically just taking one more one more place that the that the sound could change you're taking one more place that the sound could change. You're taking one more of those steps out of the potential chain. So you're basically going to benefit from these lossless audio files, even if the streaming protocol that your headphones are using is not capable of preserving that. That's a good point, because another way to look at it is almost like uh

like frame rates like increasing your your maximums is cool but lifting those minimums is is extremely important yeah um raising the the bottom bar is really important so so if you can avoid any any issues there it's very positive experience but yeah i just i don't know i also just really don't think it's a big deal because once you get to the point where you're about like 192 uh uh kilohertz or whatever that no 192 just kilobit per second right i think it's kilohertz uh 192 kilohertz pretty sure no it's kilobit per second i'm just really it's in the she does kilohertz yeah i ignore that um so as soon as you get to 192 kilobit per second like oh right

that makes sense geez really really really hard to tell guys uh and i'm talking about even on legitimately actually high-end headphones not airpods max i got such a kick out of apple's marketing for airpods max they treated it like it was going to be the way they described it and they're always like this they're hyperbolic right they described it like it was going to be god's gift to audiophiles and no it's consumer headphones for consumers let's stop pretending this is a premium audio solution because it's just not. And there is fairly premium IEMs. I haven't listened to them,

but I'm going to assume that this ain't it, chief. I also think that if you were already going to buy these $549 AirPod Maxes, there was probably a lot of other reasons. And I don't necessarily think that this is going to hold almost anyone back i would make that argument um sorry it is kilohertz it's the sample rate i was getting man every once in a while i have like a crazy brain fart on live stream and i was like wait a minute no no no no no it can't be 192 kilohertz because that would

be frequency response why am i yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sample rate. Yes. So what is the bit rate of 192 kilohertz file bit rate? Sorry. I wanted the bit rate. The highest quality MP3 has a bit rate of 320 kilobit per second. Okay, it's about 9 megabit per second. Did you see 192 kilohertz file. Speaking of using terms incorrectly, did you see Dr. Ian Cuttriss?

Oh, no. What did Dr. Cuttriss do? You might want to check it out. It's on his Twitter 16 hours ago. It's still there? It's still there. Did he do something wrong? All right.

All right. I'm checking it out. I'm checking it out. I'm checking it out. All right. Display capture. Here we go. I can link it to you. No, no.

I got it already. I got it. I got it. Okay. Okay. The pinned tweet. I'm on YouTube creators. Creator on the rise today.

Oh, that's cool. That is actually pretty cool. Look at that. Is he still called like hot hot hot potato or whatever though tech tech potato tech potato yeah he really really needs to um change come on cool you're trending but come on oh wow as a community we need to be more accurate when we are talking about DRAM. A kit of DDR4-3600 runs at 3600 megatransfers per second, not megahertz. It actually runs at

1800 megahertz and does two transfers per hertz. That's why it's called double data rate, because it does twice as many transfers once on the rising, once on the falling edge of the signal. Yes, that is true, Dr. Cuttriss, but I and unfortunately the entire rest of the industry don't give two flying about that distinction. And so unfortunately, because we've been using it this way for so long and it's even gone as far as to the point where most motherboard bioses denote it this way we are never ever ever going to get that fixed i'm so sorry you're you're you're not wrong he makes an argument below that um saying that because someone's like i get it but does it really matter blah blah everyone's been using it this way the whole time he says it

does matter it's accuracy okay whatever um the world will move to qdr for main memory at some point and it's better to pivot now than deal with the confusion later. Do you agree? Yes or no? No, I don't. Because for all intents and purposes, QDR will be twice as fast as DDR. And when you're talking to the average consumer or even a fairly educated consumer, what's that? Even if you're talking to a fairly educated consumer, a lot of the time it's, words are about communicating. The words are about communication, right? So a lot of the time, the way that we communicate to each other is more about making sure that there's clarity and less about making sure that from a pedantic point of view, we are more correct. So if I were to say, okay, Luke, we've got this, this memory is like balling out of control. It's, it's eight gigahertz. or if I was going to say, okay, it's four gigahertz QDR

instead of four gigahertz DDR, which one would you think is faster? The QDR one. Okay, yeah, but they're both the same. So I don't even know, are you trolling me right now? I was trying to think like from a consumer standpoint, I'd be like be like oh but the other thing looks bigger so maybe more i can

kind of understand his argument here i can understand his argument too it just doesn't matter because okay it's like atm machine you're not actually yeah you're wrong or whatever right okay fair but it doesn't it doesn't matter because the communication is very clear. And in this case, if you were to say, instead of, you know, so let's say we end up at, you know, four gigahertz DDR and then all of a sudden there's a QDR changeover

and now we can do eight gigahertz or, okay, sorry, excuse me. We're at four giga gigatransfers per second versus eight gigatransfers per second right um ultimately ultimately what we're talking about is an actual doubling in effective real world speed so are we being is it incorrect yes but is it actually misleading anyone because Because I'll get really upset when marketing terms end up misleading the user. In this case, we are actually leading the user to the correct conclusion by using terminology that they are more likely to already understand.

And if we want to get, you know, if we want to get sort of really annoying about the way we're making the argument, we could say something along the lines of, okay, well, then I wasn't talking about the actual switching frequency of the IC. I was talking about the transfers. So the transfers themselves are running at 8,000 megahertz. because you are still doing 8,000 mega transfers per second it is cycling 8,000 times or or a bit is moving 8,000 times per second in either case so it's just it's just one of those things where it just doesn't matter um expect i expect a response from... I expect a response too.

And like, I get it. There's certain... I mean, everyone has their own hill that they die on. You know, I got really upset when the industry started calling LED backlit LCDs, LED monitors. Because that really is extremely misleading.

LED display technology was already something that was a twinkle in the eye of engineers who were working on that technology. And LED display technology is not the same thing as an LED backlight behind an LCD panel. Like functionally, those are extremely different technologies with extremely different advantages and disadvantages. So now that it's actually coming to fruition, we're ending up calling the actual light emitting diode displays micro LED, because in order to get them small enough to integrate into a display in that way, they do have to be, they're just a completely different size class. So they're micro. And then adding to the confusion, we now have mini LED TVs, which use smaller but not as small backlights that are made up of LEDs, but in multiple zones. That is an area where the confusion that ended up, that will be caused by that nomenclature. If I'm

a consumer, I walk into a Best Buy, I'm not going to understand why the micro LED TV costs four times as much as the mini LED TV. And if we hadn't started calling, if we hadn't started naming TVs by their backlight type instead of by their panel type, we never would have had this problem. That will lead to actual consumer confusion. In this case, it just doesn't matter because consumers will not be confused because the terminology is already something they're familiar with. And when that number doubles, it will have a real world doubling effect on performance. So who cares? They're not being misled. It just doesn't affect anything. There. That's my take he's not technically wrong but it's irrelevant i think they i think they are being misled but

it doesn't like you said it doesn't necessarily affect anything exactly exactly uh uh frioni gamer says hertz just means per second there's no unit there so using hertz for transfer per second is not incorrect um yeah i mean that was the argument i was kind of making before but i was being a bit facetious because in information technology we generally use hertz to describe um like a like a clock cycle yeah we don't use it to describe what is being done on that clock cycle, right? So, you know, if we want to start talking about that, well, now we're, you know, in CPU terms, we're talking about IPC, so instructions per clock. So from Ian's point of view,

this is kind of akin to AMD or Intel getting it in their head that they can start branding their CPUs by how many instructions on average they can execute per clock. And then, you know, Intel coming out and saying, well, here, hold on a second. What is the, I actually don't know what it is for, because it doesn't matter. I don't know what it is for either Ryzen or 11th gen Intel, but that would be extremely confusing if Intel and AMD were to change that branding and come out overnight and say, hey, we don't have four or five gigahertz CPUs anymore.

Now they run at 20 or 30 gigahertz because we're counting how many instructions they can execute per cycle. So he's right. We don't have consistency right now. I just still don't care. All right, why don't we jump into now. I just still don't care. All right. Why don't we jump into our next topic for today?

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with no hidden costs. So give your computer a break and get a virtual desktop at the link down below. All right, let's talk about why TVs aren't't cheap anymore luke why aren't tvs cheap anymore because ain't nobody got no chips ain't nobody got chips what are you talking about ain't nobody got chips for that all right so all the extra screen usage due to covid and semiconductor supply crunch that is causing more price spikes in gadgets tvs are next on the list we've seen everything vehicles uh there was there was there was an article i read recently about some some more price spikes in gadgets. TVs are next on the list. We've seen everything. Vehicles.

There was an article I read recently about some company having a really, really hard time. I think it was Tesla. They have like 30,000 cars parked right now or something that they can't deliver to customers because there's one small part that's missing. They're all parked like outside and stuff because they're nearly completed. And the task can be completed by the service team. so it's not like they have to like rebuild the car or anything but there's like a small component that they're missing and they just

can't get the chips for it which is actually bonkers um but yeah now it has spread to the tv department of things the price of larger tv models has shot up around 30% compared to last summer. Again, probably a mixture of a lot more people buying TVs and also the chip shortage. The jump is a direct result of, yeah, chip crisis. Of course, it's not just TV makers that are feeling the squeeze. Asus said during quarterly earnings call that a shortage of components would mean price hikes further upstream. RIP. Display-bound integrated circuits pose specific challenges since the circuits are typically made at chip factories.

Oh, yikes. That are several generations behind the cutting edge. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. Yeah, it does. It just, yeah. Chip makers are focused on building more advanced fabrication plants that yield more valuable components, leaving little incentive to invest in capacity at older fabs which makes

sense like you don't want to get rid of those old fabs they were massive investments and you can still make a lot of money off of them but if you're going to build a new one you're going to tool it for new stuff yep and there's no life and there's no reason that a tv has to have a seven nanometer processor in it that has like literally you know an 80 cost or whatever when realistically the processing that you're doing in the tv can be done on something that costs four dollars i mean if there's if there's anything tv manufacturers have shown over the years it's that they will shamelessly save a dollar if it helps bring down the cost of their tv even a dollar i mean look at the way that lg up until even last year i don't even know if this year's models fixed it but they still had 10 hundred ethernet on their high-end

tvs these are tvs that cost thousands of dollars right and i'm looking at it going are you for real right now are you actually really in this real earth that we both apparently live on i don't even understand it they're like the only people on the planet that is still using that that fab that's making 10 100 ports right i mean to be clear there's lots of industrial products that i guess yeah could just really don't need gigabit ethernet but come on the tv does especially if you run the uh run your plex app on the on the built-in uh whether it's on web os or whether it's on tizen or whatever if you if you run the plex app that's specific to your tv it actually can need that bandwidth there's blu-ray rips that easily exceed 100 megabit.

Ah! In related news, Sony told analysts that this week, the PlayStation 5 would remain in short supply due to the chip crunch all the way through 2022. Some components have seen prices jump orders of magnitude. VRMs that normally cost 50 cents have been selling for as much as $70. Wow. At the consumer level, products that require display integrated circuits are feeling the impact first and hardest because of the factory limitations.

Right. Even though the U.S. government has proposed a $50 billion stimulus for the U.S. chip industry. And enough of this isn't, yeah, this isn't going to fix it. It's not going to do anything immediately. No. It still won't make up for the immediate demand because it's going to take forever to build those fabs. It's great building, building chips stateside, as I think the Americans say, sounds good.

Having more fabs globally seems like a good idea. More and more things have chips in them these days. More and more things are connected and with like powerful hardware. So yeah, let's do it. But it's not going to fix the problem now i'm glad we're waking up to this now you know i mean better now than never i guess i don't want to criticize them doing it yeah it's just not going to fix it in the next like year yeah um it will it will definitely help in the longer term for sure but oh i mean

according so according to michael harlston of Synaptics, so Synaptics, you know, they make crappy touchpads. It's just simple economics. They probably make good ones too. It's just their reputation. The only time I ever see their branding, that's the thing.

When you're in OEM, and the only time a consumer ever sees your branding is on like a low-end crappy product that you supply that's bad you gotta not you gotta not do that you're better off that no one knows who you are at all show the branding ever yeah yeah you'd be way better off with that uh anyway so um they're the circuit maker responsible for ics and many touchscreens and trackpads it's just simple economics he says there's a finite amount of supply. We are all fighting for it. Yeah, 100%. 100%. There's just nothing you can

really do about it. We do have something we can do for you guys, though. We're calling this the Sweaty Boy Discount. It's on lttstore.com. And all you got to do is head over there and with every order of a water bottle you can get sweatbands where are they they look a little something like oh what the heck where are they where are the dang sweatbands well they're they're on here somewhere presumably well Well, okay. Let's try this. Okay. Now I'm a little confused. Uh, add to cart. Okay. Uh, huh. What the gosh, darn it. How does this work? Well, clearly. Ah, yes. Sweaty boy. B O I let's apply that enter a valid discount code dang it did Nick even did he set this up or am I just completely doing it wrong whatever I'm sure you guys know how to do it

so this weekend did you add them both to cart separately oh yeah you have to add them both to cart I couldn't find it why can't I find the yeah it's not it's not a discount code so you have the water bottle I don't know I'm dumb I'm dumb I'm dumb I'm dumb I'm dumb okay clothing and gear.

You had a water bottle. You had a sweatband. I got this. I got this. You got to add them to cut. There you go. Sweaty boy. So you get free sweatbands with your water bottle, any water bottle this weekend. Sorry about that, Nick. My bad. I knew you did it right. All right. AMD is apparently working on their ryzen 5000 b2 stepping refresh they are getting a vermeer b2 revision over the next six months and amd has publicly stated that these are not xt versions these are not juiced up ryzen 5000s there is no improvement in functionality there were some rumors of improved clock speeds. Remember though, that they wouldn't necessarily advertise that. They would just allow them to turbo hire,

but this is all about manufacturing processes instead. AMD CPUs have been difficult to get a hold of, particularly Ryzen 9 5900X and 5600X. Ryzen 5 5600X, excuse me. Some early purchasers have waited months for their CPUs to arrive. So maybe with this new refresh, AMD can, you know, improve their supply or start focusing on XT versions. There's actually rumors that Warhol Zen 3 Plus is currently canceled due to the chip chip shortage. Um, the original speculation was that Zen 3 Plus would be mostly a minor

improvement to IPC. So it's not surprising they would opt to just create a better processor rather than a slightly better processor. Semiconductor shortages. Oh, this is interesting. This ended up in our AMD topic, but it's kind of related to what you're talking about before with, what was it, Tesla that had 30,000 cars just sitting ready to rock? It's something like that.

I'm sure someone has a correction, but there's a lot of Tesla cars just sitting ready to rock? It's something like that, yeah. I'm sure someone has a correction, but there's a lot of Tesla cars just sitting around waiting to be delivered. So the semiconductor shortages are expected to cause $110 billion in lost sales for automakers this year. That is a big oof. Speaking of big oofs, Bitcoin is down again. Thanks, China. It's actually, wait, hold on a second.

37,894. I think that's actually recovered a bit today. But yeah, that's down a fair bit off the highs that approached to nearly 60,000 US dollars. Apparently, this is likely due to news that China is banning financial institutions from providing cryptocurrency services, so they cannot provide any of the following registration, trading, clearing, or settlement. People can still hold crypto. The CCP is simply advising heavily against it due to the recent fluctuations.

Virtual currencies are not supported by real value, as though fiat currencies are, and trading contracts aren't protected by Chinese law. Wow, that's nearly a trillion dollars in market cap lost. Wow. Ethereum, meanwhile, reached record highs earlier this month of roughly 4.1 000 us dollars and have now fallen to roughly 2.4 000 us dollars and then dogecoin has kind of come out of nowhere with tech meme lord uh whatever he calls himself these days tweeting about it and causing these

wild wild fluctuations i wonder if his point is that this should be regulated like is that what elon's trying to prove by showing how quickly and easily he can change the price of an actual currency by billions and billions and billions of dollars you know total i just i will say crypto the crypto peeps that have been in it for a long time i think are maybe like frustrated about the china banning financial institutions providing certain services for them and and elon just yoloing everything all over the place but this is not their first fall you know and i think you can see that and a lot of the people that have been invested for a long time is they're like okay well this is this is a blow but like we've weathered the storm before and

we'll be fine it's it's the main people i'm screaming about those guys yeah yeah the main people that i'm seeing screaming about this are like oh i i bought at the absolute peak and now everything sucks and it's like well okay yeah that's what you get invest more carefully i mean you say that but you can i think there have been multiple studies showing that a chimp or throwing uh throwing a dart at a board can pick stocks about as well as the skilled investors so true fair yeah we're not judging if you invested wrong um and we're not going to judge if you're pretty excited about the ford f-150 lightning i was working on i was working on some forward transition but you not only did you beat me to it but i think you did it better

anyways yeah the f-150 lightning it looks pretty interesting uh it has been officially released with impressive specs and lots of actually pretty uh kind of practical and cool features it gives us a glimpse of where the audio uh audio and i almost said automotive industry is potentially heading um it has kind of typical vehicle specs plus ev 060 in just over four seconds no it is not the roadster yeah but zero to 60 in four seconds is like it is still a wicked fast electric vehicle oh yeah um yeah it has the most torque in any f-150 ever which shouldn't be surprising uh if you even have a rudimentary understanding of this stuff 426 horsepower for the standard range motors um i do believe the price on this is going to range a fair amount because the sticker price, I believe at the base model before EV tax rebates, it's just

shy of 40K. And I suspect you'll be able to crank that up if customizing F-150s in the past is anything to go by. Its maximum charging speed is 150 kilowatts with Electrify America chargers. That is fast. Which means it would take 44 minutes on the standard range batteries to fully charge the truck at a station. That's not bad. That's like actual get a spaghetti plate kind of at a diner. It's a full meal. it's not like a it's not you know yeah it's not petrol snack stop sure but that would also be from going from depleted to full yeah for sure so like it's it's i could very often see it being half of that

um yeah it has some interesting stuff though so ford is offering a 80 amp charge station pro uh but it has an interesting quirk if your power goes out you can actually use your ford uh potentially other fords in the future right now just the ford f-150 lightning to power your house they're saying for for up to like a few days or whatever that's obviously going to scale based on your usage you're gonna dry your clothes or whatever the whole time you're gonna have a bad time but yeah like you need to be intelligent with it don't don't just go into it and be like oh i can do everything exactly like i normally do and it's gonna last for a few days well no probably not but um you know if you're smart about it you conserve, you can probably make it last for quite a while, which is actually really cool.

The F-150 also features a power frunk, so front trunk, acting how a traditional SUV trunk would. It's weather sealed. It's suitable for up to 400 pounds, 14 cubic feet. It contains 420 volt power outlets as well, removing the need. I don't know if I entirely agree with this. outlets as well uh removing the need i don't know if i entirely agree with this removing the need for on-site power or heavy duty battery packs not 100 but it would definitely help especially for it would help a lot short-term jobs yeah like you're if well yes and no if you're if you're not too in the middle of nowhere which you assume you wouldn't be like you can't commute three hours

in the morning you know what i mean like if you're not too far in the middle of nowhere i could legitimately see charging all your tools and stuff in there when you're on yeah but it's it's yeah it just says on-site power i guess they are it's a truck they're probably assuming you're talking about like construction type of job yeah there are job sites that need significantly more power right but we're talking framing a house you know yeah some lights some you know if you're doing that it'll get you really far oh for sure and i like that there's four plugs because i for one have pretty much never seen a job site where they only have one battery charger thing because everyone has different battery ecosystems for their tools right so what are you going to do about it so it's nice i mean you can branch off going to do about it? So it's nice.

I mean, you can branch off of them too, I'm sure. But it's still nice that they have four plugs. It's pretty sweet. Really handy. It's not going to replace like those giant hauling generators and stuff. But yeah, it's just, I mean, it's cool. Sweet feature. Also, interesting thing.

Yeah. Nick, Mr. Nick posted out a tweet and asked what would you actually buy i found this really interesting especially considering we uh we have a tech audience and i'm sure nick's followers are consist of many tech focused people uh the f-150 lightning one with and this this has almost 2 000 votes to be clear right this was this was an active poll the f-150 lightning has 54 of the votes it won i mean that was actually stunning so here's the thing like people especially north americans love their f-150s it is the top selling vehicle on the continent since ronald reagan was president like to put it in perspective number one every year in america since like the 1980s

i i forget what it is it's like what it's either one in eight or one in six of all vehicles in america are f-150s or something just ludicrous like that. Like I had no idea. Remember, I live in an urban center and I'm in Canada. We don't have quite the same number of F-150s. We still have a lot, but yeah. But it's not quite like that. So people like people love their F-150s.

So I've gone ahead and I've posted this in all three chats, and I want to see what happens to Nick's poll results as the results come in here. I think the poll is final. Oh, it's dead. Oh, this was like two days ago. Oh, well, so much for that. Enjoy, everyone.

We can do a straw poll and see if there's a difference between Nick's Twitter followers and the Land Show viewership. I doubt it. I doubt there's going to be much difference. Honestly honestly to me it's an it's a no-brainer like it is it has been clear that from day zero that tesla has been on a timer they have had until the other automakers figure out how to make electric cars to figure out how to make cars and in their defense which they don't need uh they've opened up a bunch of their stuff and they've very much invited um competition um but yeah i mean

even just little things like the amount of criticism that they've had rightfully so about some of the like just kind of rough manufacturing like panel gaps and and all this other kind of stuff yep i seriously doubt you're gonna have that um with the north american beloved f-150s yeah i i at that had 40 grand for the base model before ev tax credits pretty good f-150 lightning's looking like a pretty obvious uh one to go with it's pretty pretty good. Yeah. And I think especially with like I know there's a lot of like okay I shouldn't say a lot. There is a population of truck guys

that are those like and gals and gals that that'll like go to charging stations and like block the stalls and make it so you can't charge your EVs and like coal roll and all this other kind of junk. But there's also a ton of truck people that drive their truck a lot and see how much it

costs and would be maybe pretty interested in just plugging it into a wall. Especially when like every day they're driving a ton and hauling a lot of stuff which uses more gas and just going through mass amounts of money there's probably job sites or there's definitely job sites um that own the trucks as well yeah oh yeah like the employees don't own the trucks they own the trucks and they're giving these fleet yeah are gonna be gas stations have like specific instructions that i'm sure you guys have seen for people with fleet cards because they buy so much freaking fuel yeah um if they can convert that to like charging stations and stuff and yeah there's a lot of value you won't be able to convert everything

gasoline is going to power a lot of work vehicles for a very very long time but for many people uh especially the ones that only use the hauling like the hauling capabilities of their truck occasionally and actually do live in the city or for people who commute regularly to a to a job site that's always in the same place where their where their travel time is predictable there's no reason that they couldn't go electric or that or that a company couldn't convert part of their fleet to electric and then allocate the electric and gasoline powered or diesel powered vehicles as it were um as needed yeah like definitely definitely not an answer for everything no um but i think it's going to be a absolutely fantastic answer for some things yeah yeah i i i'm i'm Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. It looks like Tesla now knows exactly how much time they have

to figure out how to actually be a profitable car maker because a lot of people don't think Tesla is profitable, but they're only profitable because of other car manufacturers buying like EV production credits from them. That's the only reason they're effectively subsidized by the u.s government's regulations that force other car makers to give them money all right let's go through some super chats otherwise that's pretty much it for the day any chance for a light colored version of the stealth hoodie would be nicer to wear outside

in the summer months uh a light colored well we the stealth hoodie would be nicer to wear outside in the summer months. A light colored. Well, we definitely do have other hoodie colors coming. We have like a color block one. We have a white hoodie coming that we're going to do some like graphic designs on. What it's been waiting on is we just can't find, we can't find everything, you know, we can't find an ethical factory with high enough quality. And honestly, the pricing isn't even a huge factor at this point. We just can't find the right product. And then the price is a secondary concern. And we've been working on it for a very long time. Bridget and Hannah, particularly on the Creator Warehouse team, are doing an amazing job, though. We are narrowing in on both our own t-shirts and our

own hoodies and they're going to be awesome and you'll just have to hold out for a little bit longer please metal gap he says in your verified actual gamer program are you planning on including any 3090s or was 3080s the highest card you were going to distribute we will distribute anything any card maker will sell us. As long as it's at MSRP minus a few percent, we will pass them on to you at MSRP. That's just literally everything we've been able to get. So sorry, I've specifically asked for lower priced ones in particular because I know a lot of people would love

to just have a 1650 or a 1660, but I haven't been able to get anything. Oliver says, way back in 2019, you mentioned having reliability issues with your Thunderbolt 2 optical cables as well as display problems. Not interested in VMs, but want to rack them up my rigs trying to decide between using Thunderbolt 3 or going in on fiber optic USB extenders.

So Thunderbolt 3 or 4, when it works great with a dock, is great. And when it doesn't, boy, am I ever glad that I have a fiber optic USB extender. So Thunderbolt 3 or 4, when it works great with a dock, is great. And when it doesn't, boy, am I ever glad that I have a fiber optic USB extender. The one from, oh, what's their face, iCron is amazing. Make sure you get a multi-mode one. Not all of them work with different USB standards. So this one does USB 2 and USB 3. They don't all do that. Some of them are USB3 only. Aaron says, what's your position on Bill C-10? Would you consider having fellow Vancouver-based YouTuber J.J. McCullough on to discuss the bill's implications on internet regulation here in Canada?

So I actually sat through YouTube's propaganda session about it today where they gave me their position on it. They were very fair and balanced about exactly what the bill means and definitely didn't spread any fear, uncertainty and doubt. I'm not sure where I'm at on it. One of the things that I've actually asked YouTube to do, because we had a bit of a sort of roundtable, I guess, but it was mostly a presentation. We've had, we've asked and other creators asked for the same thing. So I asked if YouTube could arrange to get us the other side of the story. So we got a professor that came in and talked about it. We got some YouTube representatives who came in and talked about it.

But what we really wanted is to hear the other side as well. So we'd like to hear from some of the regulators, someone from the CRTC, legislators who want to talk about what exactly they're trying to do here. Because it seems like while some of YouTube's concerns about it are definitely creator oriented, some of them also seem to be because they just don't want to play by the same rules that traditional broadcast media in this country have had to. And in my opinion, YouTube is significantly downplaying the impact that platforms like YouTube have on the net negative cultural exports that countries like Canada do. negative cultural exports that countries like Canada do. So I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it yet. I'd like to really talk to... Today, there was a lot of, we don't know how this is going to play out, which is fair enough. But to me, that doesn't mean we should oppose it. That means we should make our voices heard and try to shape it.

Unless we have some kind of other agenda. Now, with that said, I don't have a lot of trust. To be clear, I should clarify, just because YouTube very much took their own side, obviously, doesn't mean that I disagree with them and doesn't mean that I support Bill C-10. The CRTC has a long and proud tradition of not actually protecting the best interests of Canadians. So I don't actually have a lot of trust in that body. And I don't necessarily disagree with YouTube that the outcome could be dire. I just also am not willing

to make a decision based on, but what about, but what about, but what about, what if, what if, what if? Because we don't know yet. The SLK66 says, have you considered doing a Chia mining video? You already had a hard drive crypto mining video. I that one was with chia coin is that a different coin is chia not the same one that was around way back when uh no oh that's the new storage one right the the old school storage one was something else yeah i have a bunch of like the old school storage one and it's useless and no one cares and she is cool now got it i totally forgot that that was a different one i don't have apparently like a link to learn anything about it under that video so i just have to actually watch the video i'm just not going to do that right now all right cool yeah yeah burst was the old one oh that's right

that's right yeah thank you john mcbane the witch x master linus the lovable fool i can't stop laughing at and watching. Love your videos bro and I take my money. All right. Yes, I will. Matt Taylor says, Linus, video idea. OLED not an option, Brightroom, etc. LED TV with Dolby Vision or QLED TV with HDR10. Which one is better? I mean, wow, that is a very specific question. I don't know. I'd have to know the specific models. I can tell you that the Evo QLEDs that Samsung just released

are looking real fly though. The video is coming for that very soon. I'm real impressed. Steve says, what should I buy for my 3090 founders? Corsair EK, is there a real difference? In terms of performance, both of them will give you about as much as you can squeeze out of that card so i would buy whichever one works best for your setup um oh adam says third wanshow from the hospital with covet 19 get your vaccines folks don't wait

combined two broken laptops into one working one in my hospital room. Still can't stream from my rig at home. Sorry, Adam. Sorry to hear that. David SJ says 50,000 Ford F-150s unfinished due to chip shortage. The lot at my dealership is almost empty. Yeah, like things are crazy. Part supply shortages starting to affect current owners. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

That's, that's rough. Joshua asks, possible to take a look at color ink yeah i'd really like to we should we should probably get that going soon glad to hear it profits business guru base boy low g says do i buy the dip or do i buy the dip oh lordy i'm not i'm not getting into that do not come here for financial advice yeah that's the worst place to go all right it's jabuda thanks for the super chat and i think we're gonna call it one quick last thing before we go yes i have to give a shout out i think ed uploaded it um but he he uploaded an fp exclusive extra uh which was one of those uh old funk commercials that we filmed back in the day yes

so funny it's so bad it's so good no it's great it's so actually that one is really good the ninja one that he did the next day though so bad

the ninja one do you remember the ninja one for be quiet oh when i jump off the fence and try to chase you or whatever i jumped off the fence that was my stunt when you jumped off the fence no i'm pretty sure i jumped off the fence i did the flip i i do think you did a flip i'm pretty sure I jumped off the fence. Ridiculous. And we both jumped off the fence. You probably jumped off the fence as well. Yeah, we very likely both jumped off the fence. Oh, man, this was so cringe.

So dark. You can't even see anything. That FS700, man, did not have great low light performance. This thing was hilarious. Man, remember, this is so funny. Ed Dalby's titles sing so well. It did not have great low light performance. This thing was hilarious, man. Remember, this is so funny. Ed Dalby's titles thing so well. Remember when we made a commercial for a mouse eight years ago?

Yep. Look at baby Luke. Oh, wait, where'd you go? There's baby Luke. I'm like, yeah. My dad probably cut my hair because it's like really, really, really short. Yeah, I love it. I thought I did pretty good in this.

I think I did pretty bad in pretty much everything else. Yeah, no, you were great. You were great. Re-watching this, I was like, oh, that was all right. Yeah, oh, for sure. I've got very specific things that I can do pretty well. And I was spoon-fed them in this video. Oh, man. That was very fun to watch, to watch though yeah so if anyone's on full plan and they didn't check that particular video out i would highly recommend it it's uh quite the

interesting time capsule yeah for sure all right thanks for tuning in guys we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok