The WAN Show - China Tries to Restrict Gaming - WAN Show Nov 8, 2019
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China is putting restrictions on video games for minors and so if you make your living
pulling coal out of the ground
if you make your living pulling coal out of the ground,
China feels like
you don't need that particular form of escapism
unless I've read the headline incorrectly.
I'm kidding. Miner people.
Well, okay. Miners are people.
Young people. Young people.
Okay, what else we got? We've also got Intel
publishing misleading HPC
benchmarks.
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That's awkward.
And dead people starring in new movies.
That.
The future's awesome.
Is quite a thing.
Microsoft also reports that, you know what?
James, I'm on to you.
He's making me say this out loud.
Microsoft reports 40% increased productivity after decreasing working days.
Yeah, people went, oh, man, we should really try to keep this.
Let's work hard, everyone.
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We should get this in the WAN box.
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All we can do.
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The old one did it.
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I don't understand.
Call me boomer one more time.
I dare you.
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Anyway, so we're using it because YouTube's had this weird bug
where Wanshow has displayed a stream date of a
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because I think people are not reading the entire title to see the date. They're just saying that
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perfect sense. I would do the same thing. agreed I told YouTube support who has apparently not been able to replicate my issue even though I sent
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ago and I said I would try the new one so so far it's a great experience why
don't we jump right into our first topic of the day today. Guys, this was posted by Suits on the Forum,
and the original article here is actually NPR.org.
Wow, that's kind of a new one.
China introduces restrictions on video games for minors.
Now, hold on a second.
Yeah.
Hold on a second.
Okay.
Before we get too far into this,
and before we actually go through all the details of it.
Okay.
Side discussion.
So just.
Sure.
Okay.
All right.
Screens away.
Okay.
Should the consumption of video games by minors be regulated in the same way that alcohol,
in the same way that alcohol, cigarettes, driving, gambling.
Gambling is actually a great example of the current layout of games.
Should access to gaming be restricted?
And you know what?
I mean, this is kind of an interesting one because movies,
the way that they are accessible to minors is actually somewhat restricted.
So now that the movie theater has sort of moved to the home, there's less that a government, for example, or a regulating body can do to control what minors are seeing.
You wouldn't be allowed into a movie theater. Yeah, like a a nine-year-old still isn't allowed to, you know,
buy a ticket into an R-rated movie.
Okay, yes, but if you're with your parents, couldn't you?
I'm pretty sure if you go with your parents to the movie theater, you can.
Yeah, I think you were allowed to.
So then, where's the line?
Should...
Okay, not where's the line.
We'll talk about the finer points later.
Should miners' access to video games be restricted?
And let's start with in any way.
In any way.
In any way.
In any way.
I would say yes.
Okay.
Would you care to put a finer point on that?
Yes, I would.
I would very much care to.
Well, too bad. The show's over. Thank you so much, guys finer point on that? Yes, I would. I would very much care to. Well, too bad.
The show's over.
Thank you so much, guys.
You heard it here from Luke.
Kids shouldn't be allowed to play video games.
Thank you, Luke.
I think it should be restricted at a parental level.
But parents, no offense to the parents out there,
a lot of you are idiots.
And quite frankly, if there was a test for whether you
should be allowed to be a parent you wouldn't pass it unfortunately the only test to become a parent
is whether you can convince a member of the opposite sex to you know and then you happen
to be biologically capable which quite frankly so is a chipmunk but that's it that's the qualification yeah it's not
exactly like a huge barrier it's all fine and good to say you put it in the hands of the parents but
like yeah you've got parents making decisions like um i don't know you know how do i how do i say
this sensitively i was uh i was reading an article about article about a bylaw that the city that I live in recently passed restricting overnight vehicle parking.
So basically restricting people who are living out of their vans from camping on public land. And I was reading this counter-argument from someone who lives in the back of a converted van with her 13-year-old daughter saying,
well, you know, we love this nomadic lifestyle.
And I'm like, your daughter needs to go to school.
Does she not go to school?
Well, what does nomadic lifestyle mean?
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, fair. Your daughter needs to go to the same school, what does nomadic lifestyle mean? Yeah, okay. Yeah, fair. Your daughter needs
to go to the same school, like, regularly. Yeah. And maybe you're doing an amazing job of
homeschooling, but, like, let's not pretend that every parent who's making a controversial decision
about how their kid should be raised is actually doing all the due diligence here.
So I would counter-argument a little bit.
Sure.
I am 100% certain that there are cases where that kid has some type of thing going on
where them playing games is very grounding and positive for them.
And if you cap them at 90 minutes or whatever it was in the thing, because our laptops are
closed, that could actually hold them back in a lot of ways.
So I don't like it because you could be restricting positive use of this thing.
I think there could be ways to manage it like movies are done, where like the kid can't
go buy it.
So maybe if China wants to be, because China's pretty invasive about different things, if
China wants to be really invasive, they could make it so that you need to have whatever.
So they can make it so that you-
Please China, don't get any ideas from the word invasive.
Okay?
We-
Oh, jeez!
We prefer our sovereignty over here.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, that'd be great.
If they want to do this thing where you have to use your real name and your citizen ID or whatever to play games,
I think it would maybe be better if they made it so that with that attachment,
I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm not saying it's cool, I'm not saying any of that kind of stuff.
I'm saying if they're doing it anyways, I think it would be better if they used that to restrict what you could purchase without parental intervention.
they used that to restrict what you could purchase without parental intervention.
So if your parent steps in and goes, yes, this is fine,
I understand they're shooting people,
but it's Fortnite, so whatever,
I think they should maybe be able to do that.
Okay, but that's sort of a separate argument
from what you were saying before about restricting.
So okay, so, well, is that your bottom line?
You should restrict the access to purchase the video game
in the first place,
but there should be no regulations with respect to how much time people are allowed to spend playing it.
Minors, mind you.
These are people who, by and large, around the world,
we have, as adults, collectively decided are not really capable of making the best possible decisions for their own well-being.
No, well, absolutely.
And I think that's...
I have less experience with parents than someone who has a kid would have.
Right.
I'm not around other parents very often.
Well, it's pretty simple.
I didn't hang out with...
People who are parents are just people.
Yeah.
So think of all the people you've ever met.
Yeah.
Okay, well, there you go.
I do a lot of work to restrict that number
as much as almost possible.
Staying inside helps.
But yeah, that's true.
I've basically not been out of my house for two weeks
because I've been sick.
But as you can probably still hear,
I'm very sorry about that.
I thought it would be a little bit better.
I don't really like the idea
of punishing people who are doing
things right because there are people that are doing
things wrong. I've always had an issue
with that. So if
there's a family that is doing
things great, they're very
active physically, they're
very on the go, all this kind of stuff,
but then... On a Saturday, Junior wants
to play six hours of Fortnite
because he or she has got all their homework done.
And they have two different sports they're in,
and they're very active,
but all their game days are on Sundays or whatever,
and they really just want to...
I don't really like restricting that.
If everything's all positive there
and everything's all healthy and good there,
I don't necessarily want the government... Sorry, to be clear. government sure to step in and restrict that the parents could be like you
know what no and i'm whatever so what if a government were to step in and provide guidelines
like hey we have heavy suggestions we have found that more than 60 minutes of uh screen time a day
will negatively affect your child's development in ways X, Y, or Z.
Here are the sort of the studies we've conducted to form a basis for what we're presenting as fact.
Sweet.
So you think that's okay.
Yeah.
But what if everyone just ignores it?
And as a government, now this is up for debate because there are people who believe that the government should basically do nothing.
Small government.
And there's sort of it's really funny because I've had conversations with people.
There's people who are pro small government who have fought it through very clearly.
But then there's people who are pro small government who don't appear to have fought it through very well.
The government shouldn't have regulations. I'm like, OK like okay well what if there's lead in your water well
the government should step in and make sure that doesn't happen yeah no so yeah i'm so i wouldn't
say that i'm pro small government we're getting political which is scary but so no i'm saying that
there's multiple different ways to look at it some of which are well thought out some of which are
not so much but if we were to pretend for a moment that it is the government of a country's job
to ensure the, as best as it can, advancement of said country in the global community.
But then we're technically shifting away from...
Hold on. I'm not done yet.
Okay. All right.
If we were to make the argument that it is a government's job to ensure that the company doesn't crumble into ruin the company i like it
yeah basically i like it wow that was a total total freudian perfect that was so good sorry
keep going so if it's the government's job to ensure that the country doesn't crumble into ruin. Does a government need to step in if they see a generation of people that basically are not learning basic skills and are busy playing Fortnite?
I think you're going to a very, like, Plutonian government structure idea thing and if you want a republic um who's like only goal is the
betterment of all society with totalitarian stances yep then sure um if you have an omnipotent
government that is never going to do anything wrong them stepping in and having a strong arm
was probably a beneficial thing i think think you mean omniscient?
All-knowing, right?
I think...
Omni-whatever.
Omnipotent means all-powerful.
Yeah.
All-powerful could be very bad.
Okay, so all-powerful within a government sense,
because you're giving them all power to control anything
that could possibly benefit society in any way.
Sorry, my voice.
Well, I think you're hanging out at the bottom of the slippery slope I'm talking about.
Yes.
Okay.
Got it.
But I think there's been plenty of examples of things going that direction.
Sure.
So my kind of stance on this stuff is generally I want government regulation and stepping
in and all that kind of stuff when it has to do with maliciousness and potential safety, like lead in the water,
and regulations of how you can build a product.
But in what you can do in your spare time,
as long as it doesn't hurt other people,
as long as it hurts yourself,
I'm generally okay with that.
Let's talk about safety.
Okay.
Safety.
Isn't safety...
Safety's a fun one.
Think of the children.
Especially in a socialized Medicare environment. Think of their safety. Yeah. Okay. Safety. Isn't safety... Safety's a fun one. Think of the children. Especially in like socialized Medicare. Think of their safety. Yeah. Okay. So then. Slippery slope time, right? Yeah. Could you make the argument
that it would be detrimental to a child's safety, to their health, to spend
too much time playing video games? Yeah, but I don't necessarily think that line comes in at 90 minutes or 60 minutes or whatever.
We'll talk about the specifics later.
We'll talk about the specifics.
I think it would be extremely difficult, nigh impossible, to figure out how much per day
or even per month that could work out as.
Sure.
Because you don't know how, how would I describe this, how actively shifting from activity
to activity that person is.
Because if they're very, and they don't have much sit-around time,
they could be very physically active and spend a lot of time playing games.
And that combination is probably fine.
And not a lot of in-between.
Like you're saying, they're not the kind of person that finishes hanging out
with their friends playing soccer and then just kind of like veges for a while.
Lunges around for a while.
And then plays a video game for a while and then goes and gets a snack
and then goes and watches TV for a bit.
Yeah, but if they're like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam,
it could be a healthy setup.
Sure.
Okay.
Want to talk about candy now?
Oh, boy.
Let's talk about the safety of candy and soft drinks.
And soft drinks. Soft drinks are brutal.
So I'm going to come right out and say that I think the access to candy and soft drinks for minors should be immensely restrictive compared to how it is now.
How would you functionally do that as a government? That's something I'm interested in.
Well, the same way that you restrict cigarettes and...
So they can't buy them, but parents could give them to them.
Yeah, basically.
Okay.
I'm generally way more comfortable with that approach.
Because honestly, a big part of the problem is kids buying them for themselves.
Yeah.
Buying them at the corner store on lunch break or from the vending machines at the school
or whatever else the case may be.
And like, guys, I know there's going to be people that are mad about it, Buying them at the corner store on lunch break or from the vending machines at the school or whatever else the case may be.
And, like, guys, I know there's going to be people that are mad about it who are watching the WAN show right now.
I don't even care.
That stuff is actually poison for your body.
Actually, don't drink it.
And if you can't control yourself.
I think one of the, like, most positive.
That's your deal as an adult.
That's cool.
But as a kid, it is detrimental to your development to just drink, like, literally.
I forget what it is in most sodas.
It's insane. It's about a quarter of the can.
I was going to say, I think it's...
Oh, you were doing can.
Okay.
I was thinking bottle for whatever reason.
And I was like, you need to increase that a bit.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm usually okay with that that's why I'm saying right like maybe restrict the purchase because I've been
in in situations where when I was a kid I was able to rent or buy games that were definitely age
gapped above my thing and I don't know a ton about the esrb right so maybe they're not the best
representative of this but here's the problem you have to adapt the way that you control a
dangerous substance according to the way that dangerous substance is being distributed yeah
so let's say for example that um by and large everybody moved from uh let's use marijuana as
an example something that was legalized here recently.
Video demonetized.
I know, right?
Gone.
So let's say instead of buying a joint and smoking it until it's all gone,
I was just buying a plant that would reproduce infinitely very easily.
Okay.
Would you restrict those two things in different ways?
Because I would make the argument that video games when you were a kid
were different than what they are now.
There wasn't a daily DLC.
There wasn't a season's pass every quarter.
So it was more of a buy once
and there was kind of a limit
to how much time you could really spend
playing Super Mario World.
I mean, WoW came out in 2004.
So I was 13.
So WoW did have the advantage.
Actually, you could buy cards.
You could buy cards for WoW.
Subscription cards, right?
Yes.
But did those come later?
Subscription cards were pretty early on.
They were pretty early on.
I know they came out in Classic.
I don't know if they came out at the very beginning.
So either way.
So it's been around for a good
Wow, it's not like 15 years now 15 years crap anyway
So this never questions out before that so this issue has been around for a long time
Yeah, but something that just kind of goes forever
I don't think it's quite enough to just say okay
Well, we clearly need to restrict this at the source
or at the initial purchase.
And you know what?
It's not like Google and Apple of their own volition
came out and started putting all those warnings on apps
that had in-game or in-app purchases.
Yeah, I think one of the ways you could even help manage this
is make it potentially mandatory for game makers
To have a like reporting feature in their games or like a parental
What I'm saying rental prompt you mean well yeah, so like by reporting
I mean like you you'd have to like have your parents email locked in
Unchangeable without their password in the game. Right. And it, like, gives them, like, weekly or daily digests
of, like, how much you're playing the game.
Sure.
And every time you buy something through microtransaction,
there's a forced report.
Yes.
Hey, here's how much money's been spent.
Here's how much time's been spent.
Here were the times it was done.
So basically...
I'm giving more power to the parents I'm generally more okay with,
giving more power to the government.
I see.
I, yeah. So you would be supportive then let me pitch
you something you would be supportive of the government stepping in and mandating
that game developers embed tools in their games that give parents control
over how much time the kid is spending playing if the parents
want it they choose to because you will parental controls implies that there's an unlimited button
like through family link which is what i use to manage my son's phone i can say he can have
unlimited screen time i don't but i can and i can see like what apps he's using and all that i would
i would to be clear i would hate this as a kid. Oh yeah, for sure. Because I mean, it was like 100% my goal,
and I failed a lot, but it was 100% my goal,
basically all the time, to figure out how to get around
my parents' restrictions on various things.
Yeah.
Pulling a Super Mario Bros was setting your alarm
for the middle of the night, and then waking up
and going downstairs and playing Super Mario Bros.
Like that was a term that my friends used actively.
So like, yeah, if you're a kid watching this,
I'm kinda on board with you.
I'm just saying, like, in terms of laws
that I would be like, yeah, okay, sure.
I don't think it's a lot to get a development team
to add that in.
I don't think that's a huge amount.
No, they won't want to.
No. No.
Because it would very likely hurt their game.
But if everyone had to do it, I think it would be a little bit easier.
Especially if you did it on a platform level.
Right.
So if like the Epic Game Store and the Steam Store and whatever else.
Or the Xbox whatever experience thing.
If you did it at that level, it would probably be quite easier.
So... Not all games are, because like the Riot right now, just League of Legends and TFT are in that launcher, but they're making a bunch more games. And if you want to be off a platform,
maybe you'd have to have your own thing. Yep. But it would be cool if you could lean on the platform.
I mean, I'm sure you're going to hear the arguments from game developers. It's like, look... Oh,
tons of people are going will be mad at me
This kind of regulation is putting more restriction more burden on us
Yeah, all for the sake of what reducing our revenue. Well, how are we supposed to justify spending development cycles on this?
But do you agree that a child who obviously lacks the self-control?
Yeah, who is spending, you know six eight, ten hours a day playing some game.
I mean, Fortnite's just a great example because every kid that I have encountered
seems to play Fortnite.
I don't really get it.
I forget where I was going with this sentence,
but the point is, do you agree that it's a problem that needs to be solved?
I think, see, when I was a kid, I played a ton of video games,
but I was also extremely active and did well in school.
Right.
So, like, I feel like I had a decent balance.
And I think in some situations, especially because, like,
we're getting on to other stuff now, but cost of living has gone up
and wages have not gone up with cost of living and things are hard and parents are working more
Actively and more moms are in the workforce. And so there's there's a little bit as I have no idea, but I'm assuming there's a little bit
Boomer
Yeah, I get wrecked I'm assuming that
There's there's less at home time for parents. I was fairly fortunate
My mom worked out of our garage,
so she was generally always at home.
But my dad had like a billion jobs
and was often not at home for different parts of my youth.
I had other parts of my youth at home a lot,
but we had parents home quite a bit.
I knew kids back then, and I'm sure there's more now,
that their parents are often not at home.
They have nights alone, they have days alone, etc.
So putting some tools into those parents' hands that their parents are often not at home. They have nights alone, they have days alone, et cetera.
So putting some tools into those parents' hands so that they can parent.
But remotely.
But remotely.
While that situation kind of sucks,
I think is maybe a good idea.
It's better than nothing.
Yeah.
So why don't we run through what's actually happening here.
So that was a great discussion.
And I feel really good about having come to,
I think, a point we can agree on.
Putting more tools in the hands of the parents
and having the government enforce
the creation of those tools
seems to be a reasonable solution.
Yeah.
So let's talk about what China's doing.
Chinese officials have released official guidelines
cracking down on youth online gaming,
which they say negatively affects
the health and learning of minors
I never thought I would say this but I agree with the Chinese government wholeheartedly here
so the one thing that I have trouble with here is that
Minors are just sort of broadly defined as under 18, which I guess is sort of
Technically something the whole world pretty
much agrees on but yeah but usually on like yeah you you can't say that like um an 18 year old is
somehow should somehow be controlled in the same way as a four-year-old now i have my stuff a lot
more figured out when i was 18 than when i was 12. Yes, absolutely. Now, another thing,
now it's something to keep in mind, is that China isn't treating everyone exactly the same.
Online microtransactions, for example, are capped. They're capped at $28 monthly if you're under
eight years old, $57 monthly if you're under 16. And then if you are older than that, there doesn't
appear to be an online microtransactions cap
I guess presumably because you're making your own money
maybe or like yeah I don't know
I'm not sure I don't know
random aside when did you get your first job
how can I fathom the logic of
the Chinese government roughly how old I was 16
okay yeah yeah I got a job as life
guard so what you
15 15 I was like
13 but it was a paper route my first real one was like 14 15
yeah yeah that helps um so like yeah so to work as a lifeguard until you're 16 that makes sense
so but like so everyone here basically had a job by the time they were 16 yeah at least some form
of income not necessarily a full-time job yeah okay um all right so let's have a look though at
some of the other measures,
which not all of them appear to be segmented depending on how old the miner is.
Yeah.
So first, they're going to be registering online.
They're going to force you to register online game accounts with your real name and phone number.
So they're building a unified system to track identity and play time across games.
One thing that spooks me about that is your register.
One thing?
Yeah.
There's definitely a number.
But this information is probably being handed to the game developer.
Register online game accounts with your real name, phone number.
Unless they do like a payment gateway system where you have to have like effectively like
an iframe to a
different website really hard to say how they would do it because I know with
things like like WeChat for example it's like technically a private entity but
like so right when you tie your when you tie your you know sort of like
government supervised you know banking information into your like personal you
know private corporate entity,
like WeChat account.
So what you're saying is when Tencent owns every gaming company,
it just doesn't really matter.
Nice.
Well, I'm not saying it's nice.
I'm just saying it is an irrelevant detail.
Okay, what else we got here?
They are banning online video games for minors between the hours of 10 p.m. and 8 a.m.
Now, this one doesn't appear to be divided up depending on age group.
And I got to say, if I'm a 17-year-old being told, no, you must go to bed at 10 p.m.,
like, you've got to be kidding me.
That is ridiculous.
Now, I don't think a 6-year-old should be gaming at 10 p.m.
No.
Under any circumstances.
That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
But, like, that's where it's supposed to be up to the judgment of the parents to make a call here.
Now, this is the big one.
Maybe your dad is only able to come home pretty darn late at night. And sometimes you sleep on the couch.
And then when he comes home, you play Super Mario Bros. together.
And it's a really cool thing.
Yeah, maybe you have a nap before that.
I don't know.
Maybe that happens, okay?
Now, everything so far has at least sort of seemed somewhat maybe sort of reasonable.
Because these are kids that are supposed to be going to school.
So you shouldn't be gaming while you're supposed to be sleeping,
especially if the argument being made for it is that this is to ensure health and proper development of children.
Registering online game accounts with a real name and number, you know what?
There's lots of arguments to be made both ways, but there are compelling arguments to be made for that people should probably be held accountable for the thing
the way that they behave online um this next one though i think i would not want to be held
accountable for anything i did online in terms of talking to people in video games before i was like
like 22 yeah i don't know uh so So maybe you wouldn't have done it, just saying.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe you were just dumb at that time.
Either way, either way.
I think holding kids accountable for things they say and do when they're older is, like, not cool in general.
Things they say and do when they're older?
No.
Oh.
Holding them accountable when they're older for things they said and did when they were younger. Well, this doesn't say anything about holding them accountable when they're older? No. Oh. Holding them accountable when they're older for things they said and did when they were younger.
Well, this doesn't say anything about holding them accountable when they're older.
I think the plan is to hold them accountable right now.
That's fair.
Anyway.
You mentioned the, okay, yeah, that is fair.
But, like, I wouldn't want that on my record.
You know what I mean?
Well, that's a whole thing.
Yeah.
Remember, you live in China.
You don't get to pick what's on your record.
I know.
I'm just saying in general.
Okay.
I think the next one is the most unassailably ridiculous.
Minors are restricted to 90 minutes of game time every day except national holidays.
Freaking arbitrary.
Hooray.
Double the game time.
Hooray.
It's Chairman Mao Day or or whatever i don't actually
know if they have a chairman i have no idea i was i was you know first time i went to china i was
blown away that they have this picture on the money i was like really anyway um so minors are
restricted to 90 days uh wait okay so on national holidays new year's day chinese new year i don't
know how to say this festival labor day dragon, Dragon Boat Festival, Mid-Autumn Festival, National Day of the People's Republic of China, and Golden Week.
Okay.
Golden Week.
So yeah, you're allowed a maximum of three hours on national holidays.
And then this is where things get super de-duper crazy. for adult gamers they are banning playing games that depict
depict sexual
explicitness, goriness
violence and
gambling. By most video
games. So
EA Sports is like
I don't know it depends
on how the NBA relationship goes.
That's fair.
That does legitimately cut a lot of games.
Yeah.
And like games that I would look at and go like,
like really?
Like gambling.
Define gambling.
Like if I go to the,
like if I'm playing like a Final Fantasy game.
Is Pokemon Red and Blue banned?
Yeah.
Because they have a casino.
Yeah, right?
Because it just,
it doesn't even say that you can gamble in the game.
Like it doesn't say anything about real money. Yeah.
It just says depicts gambling.
And depicting violence, like, that is
genuinely an extremely large
amount of video games.
No matter, like, what scale you
go to, like, because there's
even games where, like, I don't know,
you're, uh, what is the name
of that game? Silicon Valley
Space Station or something? It's a really weird
Really weird old game that used to be on n64 really wacky the developers that game went on to make something pretty major
I don't remember the name of but you like became different animals and you'd go around and you had to like fight stuff
But it was usually like other animals and was the most cartoony thing you could ever imagine right and like but, like, but that was, it was, I mean, you're technically fighting things.
Like, is Crash Bandicoot out?
That's, right?
Like, does it matter the scale of this is clearly not real?
I don't know, dude.
Like, maybe COD is banned.
But, like, is Fortnite?
Yeah, like, Splatoon?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Because, like, yeah? Yeah, exactly.
Because like, yeah, sure, it's paint.
So, I don't know.
But sometimes you like run people over with a roller.
Yeah.
And that would hurt.
Is that violence?
And it like flattens the person out.
Like that's, I don't know.
So, we can wrap this up.
It's not clear how offline single player games factor into the new guidelines.
Space Station Silicon Valley, yeah. So that's interesting. I mean as far as I can tell on the subject of sexual explicitness, like a lot of the sexually
explicit games that I'm aware of are in VR where there's a big sexually
explicit push but there as far as I can tell it's all offline. It's borderline
even a game. It's just in a whole different category.
Okay, I don't know.
I've only gotten as far as, like, the pictures on the Steam store page.
Oh, I thought you were talking about, like, legitimately just, like, the viewer thing.
I didn't know you meant, like, an actual game.
No, I mean actual games.
Okay, I haven't dove into that.
So it was kind of interesting.
So I let my kids use my index
and i just i just like popped into the steam store because my account is an adult account
they just use my account because what i'm gonna go buy like additional copies of games okay there's
family sharing but i'm gonna like register my kids for steam like well i can't be bothered to
deal with this so they just use my account like there's nothing on there that I wouldn't want them to
see. Right.
And I just dropped into the
store, and it was like, VR picks
recommended for you, and I'm like, sorry,
what is this? It's like
a maid simulator or something.
I can't remember exactly what it was called.
It was like, I was like,
is this what I think it is?
And it was exactly what I thought it was.
Yeah, Steam's a little funky.
So is that online or offline?
One thing that you can do is even having an unrestricted adult account,
you can choose, like, I don't want to see this stuff.
Because Steam even still tracks your...
Well, I didn't say that.
But Steam even tracks your in-gamegame time even for single-player games
yes i do kind of wonder how well this is part of my thing where like you could try to do it on a
platform levels because most platforms do it anyways yeah what is what a slippery freaking
you know speaking of steam okay you know what let's wrap this up and i'm gonna rant about steam
for a little bit okay um blah blah blah so why is this happening in 2018 jinping called for officials to take
action on the large amount of nearsighted children uh caused by schoolwork phones and games so video
game addiction was officially recognized as a mental health condition by the who in uh by the
who what a great band no not the band the world health organization in 2018 um and then there's
wow james even put, like,
a whole debate question in here for us.
How does this affect China's influence on Western game design?
Probably a lot.
Quite majorly, because you're going to be trying to make sure
that your game can fit into either 90 or, like, 30 or 15
or 45-minute segments pretty, like, pristinely.
Having that game cut off at that time so that these guys
want to play your
game so they can get maximum amount of like matches within their game time is going to be
pretty and that's more than just like the art of the game that's even just the fundamental design
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New Star Wars is coming out. Are you gonna go see it? No, I don't think so. Um
You know what? It's funny you ask because I was planning to go see it
I was actually kind of thinking we would organize a, like, rent a theater and invite LMG and
float plane people.
Oh, my God.
Plus as many, plus however many as they want to bring.
Yeah.
And we'll just, like, take over a theater and watch it.
That sounds awesome.
It won't be, like, on launch day because, like, obviously every theater is going to
be full on launch day.
That's fine. But yeah, I think Yvonne was supposed to delegate that to David to find a day and coordinate it.
Because it's pretty expensive, but in the grand scheme of things, for a corporate event, it's pretty reasonable.
I'd be more than happy to chip.
That would just be super cool.
I'm pretty excited.
If you had people cover, like, normal ticket
price to help offset the cost...
It wouldn't make a difference. Don't worry about it. Okay.
Yeah, fine. I'd be more than happy.
We should definitely go, like,
do something. I don't know, get food
or something after, because I'm gonna want to talk
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I'm definitely gonna have stuff to say. I haven't even
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I'm not even going to it.
All right.
Let's move on to Intel publishing misleading high-performance computing benchmarks.
This is posted by Willie W. on the forum,
and the original article here is from servethehome.com.
I love the URL.
Patrick, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
One thing I want to say before we go into this.
The last time we talked about Intel stuff
and you and I both went into
a bit of a talk
about like Mindshare and
how they've left cons and how they just
don't have like the
vote of the people really right now
and all that other kind of stuff.
This ain't gonna help.
I got an email from someone at Intel
saying like, I don't remember how it was,
it was like I have a question about this,
it was just like the video,
but then there wasn't necessarily a question,
and I meant to respond, I'm not 100% sure if I did respond,
but if I didn't, this is not it.
You missed. Just way off target yeah done yeah i'm still totally down
to talk by the way sorry if i didn't hit your email i've been super sick but so intel i love
this patrick you're great uh serve the home.com slash intel dash performance dash strategy dash
team dash publishing dash internet in intentionally dash misleading dash benchmarks.
Whoops.
So they published a set of benchmarks showing Intel's advantage,
showing the advantage of a dual Intel Xeon Platinum 9282 system
versus the AMD EPYC 7742.
Yeah.
So our buds over at Serve the Home
noticed the numbers looked a little weird,
particularly the Gromax GeoMean test
in the life and material science section.
A 20% delta seemed kind of strange on a 400 watt 56 core part. I will also say the last time I
met with a bunch of Intel people and talked about stuff, I brought up serve the home. So
following the footnotes revealed that Intel had used Gromax 2019.3 rather than 2019.4,
the new version that has been out since October 2nd and includes a fix called AMD Zen 2 detection.
Basically, the previous version doesn't support AMD's epic Rome architecture properly.
Yeah.
Now, okay.
If we're going to talk about the letter of the law, the test is still valid.
Yes.
Because they did technically use the same version on each machine.
It's just not fair.
But this is lawful evil.
Or relevant.
Lawful evil.
Yep.
Not like lawful good.
Nice.
Yeah.
Solid.
It's not nice.
It's not like, you know what?
Good job, bro.
Thanks.
You guys are doing good.
We just want to show our numbers too, you know?
No.
As outlined by Serve the Home,
they pulled similar stunts on several other tests,
including using ICC compiler.
Is that the stupid Intel compiler?
Hold on.
Because they could also run this stuff on Windows XP.
It wouldn't be an invalid test.
Okay. It just wouldn invalid test. Okay.
It just wouldn't matter.
Okay.
So, yeah, using ICC compiler, using lower thread counts with AMD,
using old Linux kernels.
Okay.
There.
That was pretty much my point.
Using a last-gen board that doesn't support PCI Express Gen 4,
comparing their 400-watt part to AMD's 225 watt part, while AMD, by the way,
does also offer a 280 watt part. And they also just didn't bother to mention the price of their
solution, which is not even close. Like it's not even on the same planet. Intel responded,
updating their blog post with numbers from Gromacs 2019.4
with no material difference to earlier data
posted on the 2019.3 version.
They also said that threads per core equals one
was a typo and they meant two.
So there's some stuff here.
Yeah.
Gromacs whatever.3, the one that they used,
it's very likely that they didn't publish these numbers immediately.
You're right.
It probably took time to make its way through legal and all that.
Yes.
So dot four might not have been out in time.
I know it was October 2nd.
That is actually pretty recent.
If you line everything up.
Some companies are a little slow about doing things.
Intel is a massive giant of a company.
It might have taken a long time for them to do all of this.
So, like, we can throw them a little bit of a bone there.
I'm just making sure everyone's aware of the situation.
I'm not saying it's fair or valid.
I think they're thoroughly boned right now.
They don't need more bone.
Okay.
That sounds solid. I just they're thoroughly boned right now. They don't need more bone. Okay. That sounds solid.
I just wanted to throw them that.
Using old Linux kernels, all this other kind of stuff, not cool.
I hadn't even read that part when I made my, like, Windows XP joke,
and that just hit home so much better that that was there.
I don't know.
This is not cool.
Yeah, I mean, maybe the answer is for Intel to stop publishing benchmarks
of their own products
it has not been going well for them and like this happens all the time and we've had issues
like this with amd before let's just be totally clear um first party benchmarks every single time
they're ever brought up on wancho we go wait till reviewers get it because it's like very
you know i really feel like the industry needs um
like a performance evaluation consortium yeah for a long sweet like ever since uh ssds started
getting more complex than just some basic wear leveling and garbage collection sure it's been
pretty much impossible to use off-the-shelf software in order to evaluate their performance because
Nowadays, especially through a combination of DRAM caching and operating some of the flash in SLC mode and some of it in like
Freaking TLC ways to manipulate stuff QLC mode. There's ways to tune an SSD such that
98% of the time in a consumer workload, it'll perform like hot beans.
Whereas in that one sort of exception, like say, for example, you've got a CFast media card plugged in via USB 310 gig,
and you're copying that media, copying that media, and your performance just tanks.
and your performance just tanks.
If there were tools that were more easily accessible that would help the average person understand
the performance of a product versus just the specs,
I think that would be to the advantage
of consumers everywhere.
And the only reason to keep all of your benchmarking tools
private and in-house
would be if you don't want anyone else looking at them. And so I remember telling Intel at some
point, I was like, look, creating an IO trace is a little bit above our level right now. This is a
tool that once you know how to do it is as simple as doing a bunch of things and then seeing how quickly the drive
can run its way through it.
Could you guys create that tool
and then we can make the ultimate decision
of what sorts of workloads we feel are important
for our users?
And they were like, oh yeah, that seems like a cool idea.
And this was just a lower level person I was talking to.
I didn't really expect it to go anywhere.
And it didn't. And is this is a great example
of how you know you'd never it would never happen but what we really need is
for Intel AMD you know throw IBM and arm in there while we're at it sure to get
together and say okay look how are our customers actually using our products how do we help them make educated decisions this is how we're at it. Sure. To get together and say, okay, look, how are our customers actually using our products?
How do we help them
make educated decisions?
This is how we're going to test it.
We're all going to test it this way.
In the meantime, though,
I guess, you know,
just read Serve the Home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
This is probably
our last topic for the day
because I think my brain
might explode
if I try and go,
if I try and keep talking
after this.
The original source is The Guardian,
and James Dean will apparently be resurrected for a new Vietnam war drama.
Okay, stop.
Laptop screen's down.
What do you think?
I hate it.
Yeah, okay, sweet.
I think we agree.
We can open up again.
I wanted to see if you disagreed with me.
This is nuts. Apparently his family licensed his image, I guess, I don't know, to show up in the movie.
That's super off-putting.
I wouldn't want my family to be able to do that.
To be fair, at the same time.
Could I still be hosting tech videos in 100 years?
And you don't get to be okay or not okay with what you say.
Yeah, because, like, acting, film is art.
Yeah.
Even, let's, tech wikis aren't, but even if it isn't, whatever.
You're saying stuff in tech wiki.
You can't say no at this point.
You are putting a portrayal across.
Like, there's a, I think it's a different level than musicians doing performances on
stage, because then they're just doing the song, right?
So, like, whatever hologram Tupac or whatever they did.
Tupac.
That's because I can't talk probably right now.
But there's more to it than that.
Like, what if Tupac didn't want to participate in that particular performance like
there's a there's an there's an association with their brand that every artist has to make a
judgment call every time they appear in a live performance or and that could even be the country
or the state or the province of the town that you show up in yeah that could be the script like
maybe you maybe the the underlying message of the movie,
you know, like, just to use an example.
What if, you know, Rosie O'Donnell,
they used her likeness for some, you know,
ultra far left-leaning, you know, show
after she died or whatever.
She probably wouldn't be super pleased with that.
I don't know where her stances are,
but, like, in general yeah pretty right
how can you okay yeah sure but you can't like determine yeah and what if their opinion would
have changed in that time exactly that's another thing too you can't just pretend that the day
someone died you know like that that's that's that's it given the context of you know what he
died like he died 64 years ago so given how much has changed in the
world in 64 years we can't say that james dean might not be a completely different person today
if he was still alive his stances on things may have changed um so the filmmakers will this is a
horrible quote we searched high and low for the perfect character to portray the role which has
some extreme complex character arcs and after months of research we decided on james dean
no no find an actor there's like this is such a they took our jobs okay but my my dead yeah are
taking our jobs that's fair my biggest concern here is not with the uh directors though i have
no issue with that really to be honest. My issue is the family goes
Yeah, we see this as his fourth movie that he never got to make
We do not intend to let his fans down like his family's just like yeah sick. Let's do it. Give me that money
That's more of a problem in my opinion
Because like if if you approach a family and in like the will or something i don't know how
this works they're like i'd love to keep appearing in movies digitally that he said 64 years ago yeah
right um but whatever let's just assume that's there then sure whatever right but like because
again this is up to like the license of the person is fine but so if someone goes sure you can license
me okay so now we're talking about licensing people which is madness in the first place but Again, this is up to, like, the license of the person is fine. So if someone goes, sure, you can license me out after.
Okay, so now we're talking about licensing people, which is madness in the first place.
But, like, let me give you a whole other, like, level of madness.
Yeah.
When does a person enter public domain?
When can my grandkids make a video starring James Dean and, like, upload it to their YouTube channel?
Under the current letter of the law, wouldn't that be like 100 years or something?
Wouldn't that legitimately happen?
I can't remember.
But like, that's never been a thing before.
Licensing a person has never been a thing.
I love this kind of stuff.
So the filmmakers will use pre-existing film and photographs to create a full body CGI
of Dean with another actor providing his voice.
They can't even like like, this is...
They have received backlash online.
Oh, yeah.
One director said,
We never intended for this to be a marketing gimmick.
He was both saddened and confused by the negative comments.
Oh, I'm so confused.
You're an idiot.
I never saw this coming.
Yeah.
You're, like, actually stupid.
You can switch to my screen if you want to show this.
I'm already on it.
Yeah, Chris Evans, Captain America pipeded up i'm sure he'd be thrilled this is awful cap i'm getting
mixed messages here maybe maybe we could get a computer to paint us a new picasso or write a
couple new john lennon tunes the complete lack of understanding here is shameful yeah pretty much
thanks cap couldn't put it better myself. Thanks, buddy.
Hope you're having a good day.
Yeah.
Robin Williams' daughter called it puppeteering the dead for their clout alone.
Thank you for someone's family responding to this properly.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, what the heck?
Oh, man.
It's very weird. Like, the statement of, like, we see this as his fourth film that he never got to make.
No, it isn't.
Thank you very much for all of the money that you just gave us yeah for our dead for a very long time
relative that we probably didn't know very well yeah no kidding dead 64 years ago like so thanks
for the moolah wow don't even know if i'm gonna watch it like i don't man. I'm not down with this at all.
But, yeah. I mean, even posthumously releasing works of an artist that they did create,
like the Tolkien stories.
Didn't Tupac, speaking of Tupac, didn't Tupac release an album posthumously?
Posthumously.
After he died.
Yeah.
I think so.
I haven't followed it
too closely.
But yeah.
That's a word I've only read.
Never heard anyone say.
There is some weird stuff there.
Like I haven't looked into it
but if Tolkien told
because it's Tolkien's son
that continued that, right?
I think so.
So if Tolkien told his son
that like he can keep
working on his universe
then great.
Right.
For as far as I'm concerned, that's fantastic.
And there's other gray areas.
Well, artists performing their work,
but in hologram or whatever,
that's more gray than this.
I would say it's not even that gray.
I mean, there's the whole...
So I remember reading at one point,
don't quote me on this though, please,
that Disney was waiting for some sort of
statute of limitations to expire after Robin Williams' death, and that they had enough material one point don't quote me on this though please that um disney was waiting for some sort of statute
of limitations to expire after robin williams's death and that they had enough material from his
recording sessions for genie for aladdin uh for a lat for previous the previous aladdin movies
to like write an aladdin 4 with robin williams as genie um just around his lines because apparently
the first movie was just kind of mostly written or rewritten based on him ad-libbing things in the voice booth.
I've heard that as well.
And that's like already pretty craptastic.
But from my understanding of like the way that voice acting contracts work, it's maybe not that outlandish.
I think that's still technically valid.
that voice acting contracts work.
It's maybe not that outlandish.
I think that's still technically valid.
So I was reading an article on Toy Story 4 from the, I feel really bad
because I forget her name.
Voice of...
Oh, dude, I don't know like any actors
or actresses' names at all.
All right, here we go.
Annie Potts.
So who's the voice actress for Bo Peep
in Toy Story.
Awesome.
And apparently,
with all the changes to the script
and the fact that they don't read
in the same room as each other
and how long they've been working on it,
she had never actually seen a finished script.
And it wasn't until the movie was screened to her
that she realized that she was, like,
the leading character.
So, apparently, this is just a thing.
And that happens in video game stuff, too.
You just give them a whole bunch of lines,
and they just use whatever they want slash can.
You are paid for those lines that you delivered.
So, I don't know.
That could be its own thing.
Still a gray area, though.
Yeah, it depends on how the contract works and stuff.
That's, I guess, my kind of thing.
If there's pre-existing agreements for this kind of stuff, then great.
And I don't know the Tolkien situation,
but I think that would be a good example
if there was already a pre-existing agreement there of, like, continue on.
Yeah.
Then fantastic.
I think he's doing a positive service there.
Yeah.
I mean, there really is so much danger of the after-death work
being just not even close to the quality
and just sullying the original work.
That's my biggest concern.
Have you read a Bernstein Bears book by Mike Bernstein, the son of Stan and Jan?
No.
They're terrible.
He writes like a grade 6 kid.
Like, no offense, Mike, but you suck.
You're awful.
I guess that's a little bit of offense.
Like, there's a line. We have this guess that's a little bit it's like it's like there's there's a
line and there's this we have this stupid dinosaur dig one and it's like brother and sister like
those dinosaurs like what are you what are you even talking about that's not writing that's just
oh just you're awful at a certain point you don't want to give it to your kids and you should quit
they'll talk poorly um all right are we talking about the last topic that we mentioned?
Sure, why not?
Microsoft reports 40% increased productivity after decreasing working days.
This is specifically Microsoft Japan.
They tested a four-day work week.
Now, what I did notice is that it doesn't say anything about how long the days are of those four days.
So if they're like four 12-day work days,
then yeah, I could see needing a break.
They saw...
But okay, they also did other things at the same time,
including capping meetings at 30 minutes
and increasing remote conferences.
They reduced their electricity cost
and they printed somehow 60% fewer pages in the period.
I don't really...
That's pretty weird.
That sounds like there was... It sounds like there is a sweeping amount of changes there's also something that i
would uh be really aware of which is if you hear this change is going to be tested in your area
you're probably going to bust your butt for the amount of time that that's going because then you
get a free extra day off for the rest of time yeah we also don't know like how um yeah we don't know what the work the total work week actually looked like
according to a 2016 government study almost a quarter of japanese companies required employees
to work more than 80 hours of overtime a month um so yeah there you go that's a thing who knows
let's do a super chat thing uh kang says did did you just get started back when you posted that?
Who knows?
Cupcake person, LTX 2021 happening?
Why don't we worry about 2020 first?
Yes, 2020 is happening.
Hey!
Tyler says, fans since NCIX.
Thanks, Tyler.
Thanks, Cam.
Oh, any possibility of keeping Wancho episodes as a Plex web show?
I don't know.
Maybe.
It's a low priority.
Like everything to do with WAN Show.
No offense, WAN Show.
You're wonderful, WAN Show.
Good job.
Good job.
Everything to do with Plex.
Good job, WAN Show.
WAN Show is like the only production that we still do that uses equipment that we owned when we started Linus Media Group.
This table has been with us since the very beginning.
Yep.
Caraz says, would you consider a video comparing Ultrabooks and eGPU noise and performance?
No, not really.
I mean, the noise of an Ultrabook is the noise of an Ultrabook, and then the noise of the
eGPU is the noise of the eGPU, and you literally put them together.
TechX says, what app do you use for AirPods, Pros, and Android?
I actually just don't even bother.
I just use them because I don't really care what my battery life is.
It is alive until the noise cancellation starts to kind of like derp out,
and then it's not, and I put it in the case.
Honestly, I mostly wear them not even listening to music
because the noise cancellation is so good
and they're just really comfy.
So I just-
Man, part of this being sick thing
was that I lost all, not all hearing,
I lost a significant amount of my hearing
in both my ears for like a week
and then just randomly while I was just sitting around,
it kind of cleared back up
and it was like partially scary and extremely painful
for a little while.
And the fridge sounded extremely loud.
And I was like, oh my god, I want to unplug that thing.
And you don't even have kids.
No.
Yeah.
Hiaduri says, since I can't afford the LTT underwear,
here's all my Google Rewards money.
And it's like 10 euros.
You were getting close, dude. That was Google Rewards money, And it's like 10 euros. You were getting close, dude.
That was Google Rewards money, though.
I don't think he can spend that.
I would be forever grateful if you could
hook me up with a coupon code.
I stayed up until 2am to send this.
I have no idea how to...
I don't even have a tool to message you,
dude. I'm so sorry.
I also don't think the racket of
turning Google Rewards money into LTT store money
is probably going to be a thing we're going to want to continue in the future.
It's our new money laundering operation.
Unless that is something you want to do.
No.
Good luck.
Thanks, Yabalrid.
Thanks, Eric.
Apparently this is brought to you by Gamers Nexus at gamersnexus.net.
Awesome.
Thanks for that.
Heck yeah.
Paul, any opinion on the Halloween
video feedback? Yeah, I think I'm just too old.
Seth says
okay, Boomer. Speaking of
Gamers Nexus. A bunch of people are
sending Gamers Nexus. Enclave Strong sent a
Gamers Nexus message. What are you guys doing?
Did you guys talk about how Steve
went off on gaming chairs on
Twitter yesterday night? No.
That was awesome.
I liked it.
His message was, stop rebranding the same chair
and selling it as though it is, like, different.
Revolutionary.
Well, I just added that in.
That's not necessarily what he said.
I don't remember what he said, but I thought it was funny.
Alejandro says, what happened to the release of TechLink stress balls?
Yeah, where are my stress balls?
Dude. We're working on it. Where balls? Yeah, where are my stress balls? Dude.
We're working on it.
We're like eight things, you know?
What's the Halloween video?
He gave out like 15K worth of stuff.
Yeah, for Halloween.
This?
That.
Yeah.
Some people liked it.
Some people thought it was fake.
It wasn't.
I don't know.
Did you give it to random people? Oh, yeah. What the heck? Some people thought it was fake it wasn't um i don't know did you give it to random people
oh yeah some people thought it was dumb it kind of was that'd be a weird thing to fake
now you bought all this or at least a lot of it what bought a lot of it a lot of it i grabbed
from here did they even know what they were getting? A lot of them did, actually. Huh.
Thanks.
That kid was upset because I gave him candy because I thought he was too young to appreciate hardware.
He comes back later and cries because he wanted a cell phone.
What?
Anyway, fine.
Okay.
You got candy, which is cool by itself.
He got a whole bag of M&Ms.
That's amazing.
That's like the King House when you're a kid.
Man, so, ah, that kind of bothers me a little bit.
Daniel asks if we've got the GTX Razorblade Stealth yet.
Yes, haven't gotten around to working on it yet, though.
Sebastian is sending more Google Opinion Rewards money.
Boomer.
Thanks, Sebastian.
Okay, the dude in the Stormtrooper hat is fantastic.
I'm going to watch this later.
That's funny.
Thanks, Tyler.
I want a cell phone.
Oh, my God.
Thanks, Kyle Tellers.
You guys should get Janice to guest host an episode of TechLinked.
Not a bad suggestion, Peter.
Cool.
We've never had Taron do one.
We realized that today.
So he's signed up in the queue.
Tristan says, can you do some sort of fun collab with Steve?
I worry he's working too much
and not giving himself enough time to recover.
What is with all the gamers, Nexus people?
Yeah, so you should work with him more.
Yeah, so that he can have more time to recover.
Thanks, Johnny Nimble.
Vincent says,
at what point did you become a communist, Linus?
What?
I don't know.
I see the red back there.
Even my chair is red.
What about the blue?
Is mine blue?
Ha ha!
Mine is blue.
Sayon says, huh, free super chats?
Oh, it's just black.
And you wasted your super chat on that.
Matt Y says, Ryza9 or 9900K?
Stay tuned.
Just wait.
That's all I'll say for now.
Just wait a little bit.
Matthew says, can you do your shirts in 100 cotton probably not we like the blend um so we're gonna stick with the blend for
now cotton would be cheaper but like the shirts are always throw this out there shirts are already
crazy cheap hey have you seen the design for the Float plane shirt to commemorate so launching did you like float plane and stuff?
Hold on. I don't have teams. Yeah, it's on teams
I don't I don't have that team plugged in here, so I can't I can't show it to you right now
But it's pretty sick
My team's notification
Camera I guess ah you won't be able to see much
I don't know.
I also sent like four messages to James today through Teams.
I don't think any of them went through.
He kept on asking me if I was doing WAN, and I kept on going, yeah.
And then he'd ask me again, and I'd be like, yeah.
And I don't think any of the yas went through. No, he didn't care for me.
Yeah, so I don't think any of that worked.
Oh, yes, I've seen it.
Sorry.
Yes, I've definitely seen that.
Is that the copy we agreed on?
My brain was still deciding that this was a pin. How do you like the copy?
Like the the text yeah, I think it's cool. Oh, no. I mean do you think it's like funny though?
Funny oh because of the yeah, no I like it okay, so yeah, this is it guys
It's an LTT logo and a floatplane logo kind of
So yeah, this is it guys. It's an LTT logo and a floatplane logo kind of
Packed together and it says beta squadron. Yeah, I thought it was cool cuz we just think that's pretty funny I think it's sweet. I like it a lot
I just made up cuz yeah
When I first made AF when I first saw it, I thought it was a pin and my brains just like attached to that way
Too much. I don't know why so when you mentioned shirt, I was like no I've seen a pin
Oh, yeah, but yeah, no, I've definitely seen that. It's coming soon.
Yeah, it's very cool.
Joshua has a great discussion topic for us.
LTT, great channel or greatest channel?
Discuss.
Hmm.
Hmm.
It's tremendous.
It's tremendous.
Hmm.
Todd sent us a joke.
What do you call broccoli that isn't green?
There's some really good
Cauliflower?
Yeah that's the answer but that's like really stupid
Good try Todd
That's actually the answer?
Yeah it says cauliflower in the comment
You did guess it
It's like not even a joke
Is he just trying to teach you about cauliflower?
I don't know and that would be wrong.
Is his next Super Chat?
Cauliflower, the main ingredient in cauliflower pizza,
which is a healthy alternative for regular pizza.
Yeah, I don't know, dude.
Alexis, recently upgraded to a 4790K due to bottlenecking.
I want to get a new GPU.
980Ti, is that good?
$250 budget.
That's basically the best you're going to do for that budget, I think.
So, yeah.
Machiavelli asks, when are the mouse pads coming?
I think we're going to get this message every week until they're here.
That's good.
Yeah, in a bit.
Kang says, this announcement is more about restrictions for microtransactions.
The execution is really doubtful since the game company would be highly likely to find a workaround for this regulation since they want to get the money.
We'll see.
I mean, breaking the law in China
is like not necessarily a good plan.
Yeah.
Hoshi says, love the channel, brought me back to the PC.
Is it possible to run a Plex, NAS server,
and a Steam cache from the same machine with Unraid?
Yeah, you should be able to do that.
I've never set up Steam caching on Unraid,
although we did set up a Steam cache VM,
like just using Unraid as a VM host,
and then we had that running a Steam cache
off of passed through storage devices.
So yes, you would definitely be able to do it,
it's just a matter of how.
Greenlungs, thanks Greenlungs.
Gordon Child says, this conversation is stupid,
please, okay, I'll move on. Sounds good.
Cole, can you please make
LTT case badges, fangirls, etc.?
Probably not anytime soon. VCJester,
more Gamers Nexus stuff.
HibFisher, they shouldn't be limiting the user's
playing ability. They need to use their strengths to make sure
developers don't use predatory tactics.
Yeah, but how do you define that?
That's extremely difficult. That's tough.
Luke says, I'm still waiting to buy your book. Luke O'Brien. I haven't even started writing it, so how do you define that? That's extremely difficult. That's tough. Luke says, I'm still waiting to buy your book.
Luke O'Brien.
I haven't even started writing it, so I guarantee you it'll be a bit.
It'll be in seasons passes.
Venom Squad says, when's the Minecraft server going online?
We are planning to launch in just under a month.
Remember how you had your idea to release it in, like, sections?
Yeah.
And maybe some people had to subscribe to it?
Yeah, episodic novel.
You should do DLCc which is editors notes
on what you said that's and then you should have extra dlc that is like comments of people that
you work with about what you said totally unlimited monetization potential you want a cut of your dlc
sure 10 sick i'm in Awesome I'm so down
No one's gonna buy it
And I don't care
Oh they would
People would buy the crap
They'd probably buy the crap
Out of yours
Yvonne's
Oh I'd buy Yvonne's
Oh my goodness
Yeah this'll totally work
Yeah like when I'm telling
I would 100% buy Yvonne's
I should have my mom do one
Yeah
I'd buy my mom's
Just like What is she what is she on about?
What does she think about this?
And you can't, like, read any of them and then change anything.
Yeah, I'd sign up for that.
Yeah.
Don't be a dick, though.
I don't think I would be.
I don't know.
I legitimately don't think I would be.
I was there for the roast.
Hey, I ended that.
Really?
I thought everyone was going to be ending that
with like as much as I did.
Mine was like really long.
But I thought it was good.
I thought my roast was pretty all right.
Jim says, would you recommend Synergy
or Mouse Without Borders?
I've never tried Mouse Without Borders,
but there was another one we used recently
that was pretty good that wasn't either of those two.
I was working on something recently that i set up synergy for and um the setup is a little clunky still um and there was a couple little issues that i had but it did accomplish the goal
so the other one was in the video where we had a Mac and a PC. Yeah, on the super ultra wide monitor, we had a Mac and a PC.
Maybe check out that one as well.
OneThrustMan says, long time listener on Apple podcasts.
People listen to this on Apple podcasts?
Yeah, he's the one.
Wow.
Just wanted to thank you guys for the countless hours of entertainment.
Thanks, OneThrustMan.
Yeah.
10 bucks.
Cool.
Oh, what else we got? Robert Mail, more Gamrust, man. Yeah. Ten bucks. Cool. What else we got?
Robert Mail, more Gamers Nexus stuff.
Should you just call Steve and ask why he's harassing his army over here?
This ad break brought to you by the Gamers Nexus mod mat.
It says deep fried lettuce.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
And that's enough for today.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bad time time same bad channel
bye
oh right the intro thing
where is it there it is
I honestly wasn't that sold on the
DLC idea I just thought it was funny
until you mentioned like
I would buy Avons and I was like
oh my goodness I would definitely
buy Avons
there should be additional DLC on top of that
where you are replying.
I get to reply?
Yeah. Yeah.
You should work for EA.
Yeah.