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I thought we were so on time. We're not.
Yeah, we're not quite on time. We're closer than we have been for the last like three weeks.
Because we've been like half an hour off.
Yes, we have been. Okay, in my defense this week...
You came from a different country.
I was in France for three days and I am jet-lagged as hell.
So I had a brilliant idea on this trip.
I was like, hmm, I'm flying out for France on Sunday afternoon,
so like a 1 p.m. flight.
It's about, I don't know, a nine-and-a-half-hour flight or something like that.
It's like nine-and-a-half hours there, 11 hours back or something like that.
I'm flying out for nine hours, so that'll make it nighttime home a half hours there, 11 hours back or something like that. Sure. So I'm flying out for nine hours.
So that'll make it nighttime home when I get there.
But it'll be about 8 a.m. France time.
So I only have one day where I have any kind of work obligation to our sponsor.
So here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to land in the morning, see if I can get early check-in.
I'm going to sleep away the entire day.
I'm going to stay up all night,
and then I'm going to pull effectively an all-nighter to stay up the day of France time
and then go to sleep in the morning of home time
and then pull another all-nighter,
effectively doing two nights of sleep over three days,
and stay awake on the whole flight home,
and then collapse in my bed around four hours after my flight lands.
So I did manage to get as far as collapsing in my bed when I got home,
but even the nine and a half hour sleep that I got
was not enough to recover.
And while I was on this trip,
don't tell our sponsor,
but during the keynote,
I passed the crap out.
Really?
They fly you across the world.
You fall asleep.
Oh, my God.
Okay, okay.
I have a few things to say.
Are you, like, in the front?
No.
Okay.
But I'm in the front of the next section.
Oh, boy. There's a fair bit of foot traffic past
me look look no one noticed colton propped me up oh my god he had his own problems he like
threw up so many times he had a he had a bad mcbaggle or something i think i'm not sure what
it was so i'm not actually blaming mcdonald Okay. But that McBagel didn't look good.
Anyway, I'm not actually blaming McDonald's,
but the McBagel over there looks disgusting.
Sorry, I'm not actually blaming McDonald's.
They have a McBagel?
Do we have a McBagel?
No, no.
They actually apparently test a lot of stuff in France
because French people apparently eat a lot of McDonald's.
I mean, they're known for their haute cuisine food culture,
and yet McDonald's, Chez McDo, apparently big deal.
Anyway, where was I going with this?
Okay, no, shut up.
In my defense, okay, the things that I was actually there for
was to livestream during the event, which we told them wasn't going to work,
and it didn't.
They were like, no, we're going to have your own Wi-Fi, and it'll be fine.
And I was like, that's not going to help, but we're going to humor you.
And it cut out like five times in 20 minutes.
And we were like, we're done now.
And then I was also there to participate in like a photo challenge slash fan meetup in Paris.
Right.
And I saw that part.
Yeah.
And so I stayed awake for that.
Yeah, I was.
Right, and I saw that part.
Yeah, and so... And you stayed awake for that.
Yeah, I was...
Okay, we actually had a wonderful lunch
with some of our amazing French fans.
Okay.
Actually, it was awesome
because we were supposed to eat
at the same restaurant as everyone else,
but then there weren't enough seats for our fans.
So we were like,
well, I think we're going to have to just peace
and we're going to go somewhere else.
And one of the guys who um it's
gonna be a total inside joke but i'm gonna refer to him as french alex p okay yeah um he picked
this amazing restaurant like more french alex p yes okay okay french or alex yeah well no because
because he's uh canadian french that's different than French French. Is it
not different? It's illegitimate French. He says
it's different, see?
So I'm going to describe him as French Alex P.
AJ and Will are like, hey!
What are you trying to fix?
So anyway, he picks this
amazing restaurant. I have the most
amazing steak, the most
amazing dessert, the most amazing
bread. Just everything's amazing. like the most amazing bread just everything's amazing
we had an amazing lunch um was awesome and then our sponsor paid for it do you have a for people
in france france what is it where was it oh i don't remember okay yeah sorry i'm not good at
these things um but it was awesome cool it was awesome you can never experience it because i
can't tell you how to do that but like it like, it was awesome. But it was great. We just, like, hung out, just, like, broed out for –
I shouldn't say broed out.
We actually had a mix.
There was a lady there.
Heck, yeah.
So we hung out for, like, 90 minutes or something like that,
had a really nice relaxing lunch.
Then we went over to the keynote.
And the other thing – okay, see, the other thing is the sponsor –
the other sponsor obligation was that we had a video that went up
around the time of the keynote, except that we had pre-recorded that
because they're super smart, like OnePlus, and they just sent us.
It's Honor.
So they just sent us the thing ahead of time so we could record it
before we got there, which is, like, brilliant.
So while we were over there, it was supposed to be pretty chill.
Now, I chilled out a little hard.
I don't think they were expecting me to pass
out in the audience but again in my defense it was pretty long okay okay and i was very very tired
so dumb and colton's just like he's like yeah okay so here's the things we've like still got
to do and we got to we got to get you out of here, man. Cause you were like not looking good.
Like I get to this point of tired where I actually get kind of giddy.
And like,
I say,
start to say stuff that's like really kind of stupid.
You've probably encountered it before.
So I actually,
you know what?
I was probably getting to that point when we were talking about our
restaurant concept.
Yeah.
In Vegas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's,
I was too, to a certain degree.
Okay, so that was me.
Everyone starts laughing at weird stuff when they get super tired.
So that was my headspace when I was meeting the president of honor.
Fortunately it was just a quick photo op and I didn't have to try to say anything intelligent.
I'd have been like, okay, look, I know mobile phones, great business, good idea, keep doing
that, but do I ever have a pitch for you?
Okay, a restaurant where the menu is loot boxes.
It's loot boxes.
I still absolutely love this idea.
I still think it's a game-breaker.
You know what? No, I love the idea too.
Okay, so get this, get this.
Okay, so you go with a group of friends, okay?
We've actually worked out the concept pretty well now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I order like a protein and a salad, okay?
You order...
Or protein and like a green.
Sure, a protein and a green, sure.
I'll go with like a protein and a soda.
Everything's cheap.
Everything's like five bucks.
Oh yeah.
$4 or something like that totally unreasonable
Yeah, so like, you know every once in a while your protein is gonna be a frickin tomahawk steak. Oh, yeah
And then every once in a while, it's gonna be a hot rod
It's like 50 cent pepperoni sticks from the gas station. Yeah, you might get that
You'll probably usually get that.
You'll probably usually get that.
So you go to the restaurant, it's like, junk, junk, junk.
It's okay, I only spent $12.
So you order like four loot boxes or something.
Because maybe you'll get one that's good.
Yeah.
You might also get four hot rods.
You might get four hot rods.
Or like four hot rods and a pickle.
But hey, you had an experience.
The fun was in the excitement of opening up your loot box dinner.
Yeah.
You know, I actually like the concept though.
Oh man, like beverages.
Beverages would be great.
The kitchen could have so much fun with that.
It's like, here's tomato paste and apple juice.
Oh, that's awful.
Oh, I guess you should get another one then.
That's like an apple juice with Caesar things inside of it,
like bacon and celery and pepper on the rim.
How fun.
Ew.
It happened.
Look, that is apparently a sales pitch.
Hey, it's fun because you don't know what's coming.
People buy these things.
Yeah.
I don't make the rules here, fee people.
And the best part is you would totally get put out of business.
Oh, yeah.
Nobody would stand for that.
No. And then what i love
about this is like honestly i'm gonna be wildly successful for like two months i'd be kind of
tempted to do it just to make a point if this isn't acceptable in food if gambling is not okay
for a restaurant then why is it okay in gaming?
Just as like a form of protest.
Like how much would it actually cost us?
If just a short term lease.
There's gotta be a place where you can do pop-up restaurants.
There's gotta be.
I mean, there used to be a Quiznos like in my neighborhood that's just like still set up.
Loop box fricking sandwich.
You don't know what combination the toppings this one's six mustards and a pepperoni
It's basically liquid
Or it's like a build your own sandwich, but you have to loot box all the ingredients
I know right so you like loot box
your bread and then you loot box all your meats and your greens and your sauces and then you just
like figure out what you get at the end oh my goodness but yeah there's got to be some form
of place where you can do like oh uh your your restaurant failed i'll take over your lease for
like a few months yeah right but not permanently yeah exactly honestly i think that i think it's even the subway idea oh i didn't want to tell people about that
but they don't know what oh okay sure sure i don't want that's yeah that's all i want to go into it
with that okay okay but like oh oh oh oh no no no no no okay it's not like close enough to reality Okay. But like... Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. No. No.
No.
No.
No.
Okay. It's not like close enough to reality?
Maybe on Friday.
Yeah.
Wait.
Hold on.
Let me see if I understand you correctly.
Oh.
Oh.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Okay.
Okay.
But I mean like using the time of that concept.
Oh.
So, like.
The issue is how much work you would have to do to prepare to, like, open a restaurant.
Because, like, you'd have to actually work on the menu.
You'd have to stock a kitchen with very unconventional things.
That, yes.
You wouldn't have to work on the menu, though.
Oh.
Because it's just loot boxes.
Well, okay, you'd have to have an internal menu, though, and then you'd have to have like a dice system
There's well there's two different ways to do that there's the sandwich you loot box a sandwich
Ingredients or whatever. I don't know maybe yeah, I'm not sure which one people wanted at LTX. No, no, no
No, we actually want ltx's food options to be good
to be as good as they possibly can be yeah are we doing food trucks again um so okay because we're
going to be at the vancouver convention center there's food trucks that are just like always
there and it's downtown so there's tons of places to eat there is going to be food inside the
convention and i think for influencers for creators creators, because we have like 10 people that are interested in coming.
I'm so excited.
But for influencers, we have to have them catered by the venue.
But then other than that, I don't think there's any obligation for people to buy food at the venue, which is really cool.
Totally different from last year, where there just really weren't any options.
Yeah.
And I have a really exciting LTX update, believe it or not.
I have no idea what it is, but I'm excited.
Cause I'm just generally excited for LTX.
So there's a new update in the blog.
Oh, that's cool.
Okay, okay, okay.
Okay, okay, so just first look,
first look at some of the booths
that we have planned for this year.
Tech experiences.
We're going to do a performance versus cost test zone.
So what we're gonna do is ahead of the show,
we're gonna do a video on like $500, $1,000, $1,500,
$2,500, $5,000 gaming machines.
And we'll go, we'll spec out the best thing we can
box peripherals monitor boom here's the gaming experience per dollar then we're going to load
all the same games up on them and you can actually float around so if you were trying to decide how
much money do i want to spend to become a member of the pc master race you could just kind of go oh
well i want kind of somewhere in between here.
And you can go ahead and you can make a more informed decision.
Yeah, so are you guys going to have monitor differences there?
Is that bundled into the thing?
Because like 140 versus 60s?
Yes.
And it will affect the entire gaming experience.
But that was sort of the best bet we had for how to do it.
Because the thing is that even on like a $500 box if you had a
thousand dollar monitor with g-sync uh that has really real like a really wide variable refresh
rate window and stuff it's going to make it seem better than it is yeah versus if you were playing
on the kind of monitor you would typically have on a rig like that yeah so we want to make sure
that we're representing every price point completely yeah um so that's the idea the
monitor you should probably have at that price point will be with it.
That's fair.
Headphone testing zone.
So a lot of people ask, well, should I get closed or open backed?
And that's going to be the main thing here is I think we're trying to get a headphone
brand to sponsor it.
So it would all be like options from the same brand, but just to test in a crowded environment.
You can still get a range of styles.
Active noise canceling versus just passive noise isolation versus open backed so that you can
really try it out for yourself and playing games. Cause like a lot of the time, even if you go to
trade shows, if you go to like a headphone booth, they don't have any, it's all music.
Lots of people use like audiophile headphones for gaming
because they're smart.
And so those smart people can now make
a more educated decision.
Yeah, which is different to do.
Lots of VR.
So the VR booth is going to be something like
four or five times the size.
Good.
And it's going to have between a dozen and 15 headsets.
That's awesome.
Last year we had three for reference. It was not enough. No. Yeah, so this is going to have between a dozen and 15 headsets. That's awesome. Last year we had three for reference.
It was not enough.
No.
Yeah, so this is going to be way better.
I'd also love to have some different experiences lined up.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
So that like a couple of the rigs are like,
it's this game.
You play head to head with your buddy.
That'd be awesome.
Yeah.
Honestly, I think I always forget the name of it,
but it's like Hollow Arena or something.
I think it's 3v3.
Having that able to be set up would be really cool. I haven't tried that. I don't remember the name of it, but it's like Hollow Arena or something. I think it's 3v3. Having that able to be set up would be really cool.
I haven't tried that.
I don't remember the name of it,
but I always forget the name of it on my show.
I don't know why,
but it's a really good game
and it'd be a cool experience.
VR RC Car Race.
Maybe.
Okay.
So here's what we have planned for this.
I'm not sure if we're going to end up
being able to make it work in VR actually,
but you're familiar with like drone racing, right?
Yeah.
So those low latency wireless camera systems
that they use for drone racing.
Yeah.
There is no real reason why you wouldn't be able to do that
on an RC car.
So the idea here is that we wanna build
with like jumps and everything, like a 50 foot by 50
foot course that you then get into a virtual cockpit and like so cool drive on oh my so
everyone watching will be just watching these little cars going around on the track but actually
you'll be sitting in you'll be sitting in the front of that
It's gonna feel so interesting because are we doing like the actual I'd like to I don't think we're gonna go full-on like
Oh, but oh yeah racing thing
But as long as you've got like kind of a fixed chair one of these kind of chairs
You probably feel I'd love to make it work with pedals as well and a wheel
Yeah, like as long as you've got a wheel pedals and at least a chair that feels kind of like this...
Yes.
Going over one of those jumps and stuff and, like, ramming someone else...
Yeah.
It's gonna be wild.
I think it's gonna be pretty cool.
So that's something that we want to figure out as a video ahead of time.
Yeah.
And then go from there.
Cool.
An escape room, maybe.
I think there's, like, a local escape room company that wants to set up, like, a custom
escape room experience for us.
Cool.
BS mods, TBD, but they're maniacs so like whatever it is is going to be like something modding and cool uh we're going to bring back the workshop concept in full force awesome so not only cpu
delidding um you do need to sign a waiver for that one we're not taking responsibility for
your dead cpu that's a good idea but that was a much bigger hit last year than we thought so many people showed up with cpu's so that they could deal it in a supervised
environment i had people talking to me about how they wanted to go to the event just because they
were too scared of dealing it on their own and there's nothing wrong with that that totally
makes sense it's a it's a lot of risk the first time you've ever done it and check this out steve
from gamers nexus who i guess is now outed as someone who is coming,
came up with the idea of us doing a GPU disassembly and repasting workshop.
You can actually lower your temperatures on your GPU by a pretty significant margin.
Which he's done a lot of videos on.
And the problem is that pretty much every GPU comes apart and goes back together
a little bit differently and has its own intricacies.
So having somewhere where you can do this,
because it takes a couple hours
if you've never done it before,
in a supervised environment
with someone that you trust there,
you know what, there's still a chance
that something will go wrong,
but the odds are much slimmer.
And so, hey, if you wanna learn how,
if for no reason other than to just learn how
and know your hardware better.
Is this another bring your own situation? Oh situation oh yes we should probably do the waiver thing for anything that people bring
their own of yes duly noted yeah pc building workshop the complete process so we want 10 to
15 stations set up with a teacher and a few helpers to guide people through um so we're
probably going to lean on our community members actually link in the description volunteers we
are going to take volunteers.
I'm not sure exactly how we're gonna handle
the volunteer-ness of it.
That's something that Colton and Steph are figuring out.
Challenges.
There's gonna be so much cool stuff at LTX this year.
I'm like really excited.
I actually went through, it was on this laptop
and I did up, oh, here it is.
Here's the folder.
I did up concepts for like what I want a bunch of the,
go away, go away.
Hey, Will.
Go away.
Okay, I did up concepts for what I want a bunch of the booths to look like.
Oh.
You made these?
Well, they're MS Paint, so like.
They look so much better in tiny thumbnail form.
Yeah, so this is like a stage.
These are just like tables for the booth. This is like the cable management form. Yeah, so this is like a stage. These are just like tables for the booth.
This is like the cable management challenge.
So it's gonna be a timed challenge.
I want it to look kind of crazy, kind of like this.
Anyway, so I did up a bunch of these like sort of mock-ups
and I'm like really, really excited
because we wanna get away from the sort of
elementary school science fair look
that we had going on last year with just standard pipe and drape for everything.
Some stuff is still going to be pipe and drape, like the VR booth.
Yeah. You're in VR. The VR booth didn't even have pipe and drape last time. I know.
So it's still getting an upgrade. Don't worry about it. So we go what else we got oh
there we go uh desk setup challenge whoever can build the sickest desk setup with the parts we
provide within the time limit wins a prize so it's going to be like you're going to have desks
chairs like knickknacks and accessories wall hangings like all kinds of things and then you
basically have to like do your setup as aesthetic as you can get it,
snap a selfie with it,
and then you're entered to enterprise.
Cool.
Just like, just fun stuff.
Very cool.
Blindfolded cable management is going to be back.
Teams of two.
One person guides the other who is blindfolded
and we're going to have a ton more stations.
The case toss is going to be back and fairer.
So we are going to pallet wrap the cases
so they don't get lighter over the course of the day.
Huh?
Huh?
It's a good idea.
It's a good idea.
Sheesh.
The LTT editing den.
Think you can do it better?
We're gonna have stations set up with footage on them
for people to edit an LTT video
within a specific timeframe.
Participants will win a prize
and we'll have a grand prize for whoever does it best.
That's cool. Is it like a short
version of a video? I don't
know. It'll probably be shorter-ish.
House of Cards
slash Motherboards. How high can you
stack motherboards?
The top people for the days will
win prizes. Probably motherboards.
There you go. Minesweeper competition
will be back. Props to those who spent almost
the entirety of last year
trying to beat the records.
We're going to have a much expanded booth for this
and even more ridiculous prizes
for those who can top the leaderboards.
Guess that motherboard.
We're going to have a wall of painted motherboards.
Guess a certain number of them correctly.
Painted ones.
You can win a prize.
Games.
Retro console gaming area.
Board game lounge area.
So you can just chill.
We'll get a bunch of board games and stuff.
And of course, the DreamHack BYOC and DreamHack FreePlay.
Displays, system showcases, SI's,
partners, enthusiasts, modders,
we're gonna have whatever cool stuff we can get there.
10 years of PCs, this one is gonna be fun.
So we're gonna build a state-of-the-art PC for every year,
from 2009 to 2019, with a flagship game,
like kind of the quintessential game from that year
running on each one of them nice and we're just gonna kind of have them there for people to check
out and and enjoy so we're gonna have to hit ebay pretty hard for that stuff but that's something
that we're gonna do as a video ahead of time i was gonna say yeah is that one video so we're getting... it'll have to be. I mean, look, so, okay. The idea with LTX this year is that even if it costs us a whack of money, Linus Media Group doesn't really do, like, marketing.
And we don't hit up, like, the charity streams that hard or any of those kind of typical ways of giving back to the community.
ways of giving back to the community and so the way that I see it here is that LTX is sort of our chance to just go you know what community let's just put on
like a giant party yeah so I'm sort of past making money on it at this point
cool if we can make money on it in the future hey great like obviously this is
I'm running a business here that's not a bad thing I'm not gonna say no no please
no money but like this is like a sort of like a lost leader kind of situation this year the
intention is if you show up at ltx we're gonna have done our darndest to make it just freaking
awesome a crazy fun experience um you know i'm not gonna say money is no object but there is um
i'm probably gonna end up spending about a quarter million dollars on it
so like this is not going to be cheap let's have a lot of fun i don't expect to get that back
okay i hope to get some of it back all right but this is like in the in the past years i think we
we we held back a little bit because we were trying to do our usual thing and make everything sustainable.
If we need to have a breakout year, this is probably the year to do it.
I think so.
Teaming with DreamHack, moving to a bigger venue.
A bunch of creators saw it last year and want to come back.
This is probably the time.
And you know what?
This is probably the time.
And you know what?
If we kind of go, well, that was crazy. And like people didn't even care that much.
Oops.
Then we can always dial it back for the next year and do a smaller, more intimate thing or whatever.
Like LTX can be whatever it is.
And you might even see like certain booths.
Like maybe we need to double the VR booth again.
Or maybe it needs to be half the size or whatever.
But we can like adjust from there.
There isn't that many conventions that I know of at least where the convention hosts are setting up a whole bunch of the booths usually they like get other people
to pay them to put booths in it's because it's really expensive yeah yeah the issue for us though
is that we we are going to have some partner stuff there like we've already got some pc manufacturers
that are going to pay to be there but it's not a lot. Just real talk, guys.
Like, it's not a lot. It doesn't really make a dent. And we don't want it to be all about that
anyway. We want it to be fun for the community first and then making money second. And Colton's
like, okay, this is a big reversal of direction
because the first two years I was like, look,
the plan is to make this thing sustainable and build it, slow rollout.
Colton, do you have something to say?
You can come on here and say it.
The microphone's over here.
So Colton and staff are on point for LTX this year.
I'm hyping it pretty good here.
Nice, awesome.
Yeah, it has to be amazing.
It's going to be sick.
But it will be. It's going to be sick.'re like giving it our all like actually maybe not our all
we're giving it a lot of us a lot yeah yeah like yeah go big or go home like legitimately like
actually like the venue is how big is the venue again it's like 80 000 square feet that well that
we're taking yeah yeah and we's not even DreamHack?
No, I think that is the total.
Okay, yeah, I was like, what the heck?
Okay.
We actually expanded it.
We actually had initially, we're like, okay, this is already double the size.
Of last year.
And then Linus hooked out.
He's like, no.
No, we need more.
We need more.
The look on his and Yvonne's face when I was in that meeting.
I was just like, there's another ballroom, right?
Yeah.
Book it.
Well, I'm not sure if DreamHack is down for that.
Book it.
Just do it.
Book it.
Just do it.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
I don't want it to be like, I don't want people to walk in and feel like they didn't try that hard.
You don't want to necessarily have completely blown the bank, but you don't want there to walk in and feel like they didn't try that hard you don't want to necessarily have completely blown the bank but you don't want there to have been compromises
yeah i mean the thing is like i feel like people really enjoyed the last ones but it was mostly
from just like an engaging with us as a community perspective and i just i felt like we can do more
yeah like yeah exactly there should be more elements to it. It's not just... The main stage is needed an upgrade.
I want people's one pluses not to be bored.
Yeah.
And that's a tough thing to do
when the main attraction is hanging out
with the LMG crew.
And the floatplane crew, as it were.
Talking about a video.
Like, oh, I loved you in this video.
And their plus one's like, what?
Who's this guy?
That annoying voice that's always on in the background
when I'm trying to sleep. This Scott wearing sandals. What is this?
So yeah, it's real good. Did you go through the whole thing already?
Not yet, actually I haven't even talked about one of the things that Luke is gonna like wait what a wig over
So it looks like there's a chance and we basically when when this guy reached out
This guy's vintage PC collection is nuts.
Go check his channel out.
I was just moving over.
I don't know how to
pronounce it, honestly. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
The point is, his vintage PC
collection is insane.
And as soon as this guy reached out, I was like,
Colton, you cover this man's
travel, you cover this man's transportation
for his collection. Props to him. He's like, I'll bring everything. I'm gonna bring all of it. Everything.
The guy's got like so many different PCs and systems and stuff like that.
So, so even just looking at his channel, just the thumbnails on his channel. It's like, oh wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, so, so basically we've just kind of gone, okay, here's like thousands of dollars worth of booth space.
Here's thousands of dollars worth of expense transporting all this stuff.
We don't even care.
Just do it.
Come on up here.
We want it to be really, really community driven, really collaborative, really excited.
That's really cool.
The CNC demo is not confirmed yet, but we might have someone with a CNC machine at the venue to actually CNC stuff like for people that's cool for attendees now that might not be free
that might be something that you have to pay ten bucks for it looks for me to be
small or whatever it would have to be small things but just what kind of what
a cool souvenir little yeah right yeah if you want something cool to get signed
because a lot of people are wondering like what should bring a piece of paper that's kind of boring?
What do I get to get signed?
Maybe get a little thingy from the CNC machine.
DreamHack Indie Dev Zone.
Size TBD, but there's lots of Vancouver-based indie devs.
Charity Silent Auction.
So we're going to find a bunch of cool stuff from the warehouse
and do probably a BC Children's Hospital or Extra Life or something like that.
Where's Luke's scavenger hunt?
It'll be more organized this time, I promise.
Creator meetup area.
So there'll be a dedicated space
where creators can get into and out of it discreetly.
That was a big problem last year
is like when we had a scheduled time for people to hang out.
They like would get-
That's a problem at like every show.
Swarmed on the way to, swarmed on the way from.
You can't get through the door too.
Mainstage, merch, impromptu events, and more to come.
What a blog post.
I can't tell you guys when tickets are going on sale yet.
We're still working out things like the revenue split with DreamHack,
which as you can imagine is a little bit complicated because we have sort of different visions for exactly, you know, what it is. Like we're coming together from like
the perspective of like, we really want to work together and we're going to make this work.
But like, we are very different organizations with very different goals. So there's just,
there's some, there's some things to to figure out but like both our team and their
team are super dedicated to just making it happen and it could be one of those things where after
this year we might go yeah you know what that didn't really work that great but that's not what
we want we're trying to build this as a sustainable thing because i really cool to keep this going i
think dreamhack adds a lot of street cred and a lot of value to the event. And they feel like we add a lot of street cred and a lot of value to the event.
And it's such a really cool combo in terms of mixing the pieces.
Because there's lands that have a hardware focus, but it's not really the same.
And there isn't actually really hardware conventions.
But we did that, sort of, but it didn't have the other side.
Like, there's creator-focused events.
There's also that.
There's hardware-focused ones.
There's gaming-focused ones.
There's LAN party-focused ones.
But us plus DreamHack kind of brings it all together.
We hope.
We hope.
That's what we're going to try and do.
Yeah, and you won't lose that hardware focus.
Because a lot of these events, like original PAXs.
I remember one of the first packages I went to one entire wall of the convention was all Nvidia
The whole thing they rented out the entire wall. You're lucky if Nvidia shows up
Yeah, the the hardware focus is like gone. So it's cool that we have another one of those two. I don't know. I'm super excited
Will LTX 2019 be live streamed um
colton
i think i hear him uh why don't we uh why don't we roll the intro because we never did that
buy ourselves some time
like over half an hour into the stream.
Whatever, minor details. Minor details.
I wasn't sure.
I never know which things I'm allowed to talk about
and which ones I'm not.
Can you talk about it.
Yeah, we can talk about that.
There will be a thing.
It'll be a thing.
Okay, we'll figure out how.
Because the split is actually super complicated.
It'll be a thing.
We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
What's your best judgment, boys?
Okay, yes.
There will be some kind of live streaming option um now i
can't promise that we're gonna have like a live feed following me the whole time or like a live
feed following around every single creator the whole time with like eight different you know
ltx1 ltx2 ltx like be realistic. So there will be hopefully a live stream
of the vast majority of the stage stuff.
And then I believe we are intending to broadcast
the WAN show live from LTX.
And that one will be available to everyone.
But it is probable, highly probable,
that things like panels will be limited
to people with a virtual ticket.
Similar to what's been done at other kinds of events in the past.
Again, we are putting a lot of money into this and we don't expect all of it back.
But we also don't like just putting it in a fire for lols.
Do you want to explain how the virtual ticket will work?
We don't know that yet.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, we have a really close partnership with Floatplane Media.
So there's a strong possibility that it'll have something to do with Floatplane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess it's not all like in writing yet.
No.
So we can't get into too many details.
We're going to work it out with float plane media.
Those guys, I mean, they're not like DreamHack where like we really want to work with them.
You know?
They're just kind of.
They're just there.
They're just there.
They're actually like always there.
They're a pretty adequate video service.
You have a pretty adequate video service.
Is that what it's called?
Pretty adequate?
No, it's just adequate video service.
Adequate video service.
Yeah.
We actually own the domain adequatevideoservice.com.
So I was joking to Luke that we should...
For the people who like to dig around in the nuts and bolts of video players,
that should be our back-end delivery domain.
So people are like, wait, what?
What is this?
What is Adequate Video Service?
Where does it come from?
And then when you go to AdequateVideoService.com,
it should just redirect to something.
Could you set it so it's just like a Russian roulette of redirection?
Like daily motion.
It's there. I don't know why, but it's there. I't know why but it's i mean it's whatever uh oh oh speaking of um that we still do need to make money someone in the floatplane chat
is like floatplane media aren't they like an indie upstart or something
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Someone in a Flowplane chat was like,
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Heck yeah.
That was good.
Should we talk about a topic?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, let's do that.
Chrome to break ad blockers.
So the original article here is from the register.
Right after Edge decides to switch to Chromium.
You know, isn't that funny timing?
I think that's very funny timing.
What is this?
I'm just finding that timing very unexpected.
So Edge switches to Chrome.
And Google says, you know what? Chr what chromium we're just gonna block ad
blockers you know it's just funny because isn't google's business serving ads online
now look i don't wear a tinfoil hat but i have to say i think this is a very stunning coincidence
this should be your version of Lyle so Kyle goes to the
Asianist guy yeah I go to the whitest guy basically kindest oh my goodness so
if we're to believe Google about this,
oh yeah, chat's blowing up, go, go team Firefox. If only Firefox wasn't trash right now.
Right, what, okay, I used to,
I had a Firefox plushy thing.
You had a Firefox hard-on so big
that sometimes we couldn't get this table to sit level.
Like if we talked about Firefox, it'd be like,
well, from his side, though.
I used it, but I wasn't like, oh, Firefox.
Oh, yeah.
I did, like, wild amounts of testing.
I had some, like, really enjoyable nights with Firefox.
But the problem came down to when it would crash so much that it was directly negatively impacting my work.
Yeah.
That's where the line was kind of drawn.
That's when you switched to Chrome, was not until like quite a bit post-LMG, like two
years in.
Yeah.
And like I stopped doing the nightly stuff on computers that I did work stuff on, which
was all my computers.
But like I stopped doing the nightly stuff.
I brought it back.
I started doing the consumer builds when I was like, okay, I can't handle this anymore.
But for a long time, even on the nightly builds, it was rock solid.
You mean on the nightly?
Yeah.
No, I know.
It was rock solid.
I wasn't on nightly, but I was usually on beta.
Yeah.
But it was fine for a long time.
And you'd have your weird crash every once in a blue moon.
Yeah.
And you're like, I'm on the beta one.
That's fine.
Let me send in my crash report and try to be helpful. And then'll bring everything back up it's fine and people say quantum came up yeah
quantum came out and I like on stream was like let's do it and switched to quantum and was like
I'm really excited I'm coming back and then that same day within a couple hours of using the browser
it just completely locked up and I lost it I. I was like, no, I can't.
So much stuff is browser-based these days.
So here's the thing.
According to Google, they're doing this for,
do I understand this correctly?
Improvements to security, privacy, performance,
and to enhance user control.
You know what I think?
I think this really does help with user control. You know what I think? I think this really does help with user control. Whenever we want to improve user control at my company, we just lock
out options. We just take control away. So ridiculous that they're saying security
and privacy. We're enhancing our control of the user. Users should have increased control
over their extensions? the design document says
go ahead please finish that sentence a user should be able to determine what information
is available to an extension and be able to control that privilege okay so this involves
to achieve these goals they want to replace web request the web request api with a new one
declarative net request and the web web request API is what allows browser extensions
to intercept network requests so they can be blocked, modified, or redirected.
So this can cause delays in web page loading
because Chrome has to wait for the extension.
Okay. Fair enough.
So in the future, web request will only be able to read network requests,
not modify them.
The declarative net request will allow Chrome, or rather extensions, to decide how to handle network requests not modify them the declarative net request will allow Chrome or rather extensions to decide how to handle network requests thereby
removing the mechanism used by some ad blockers so interestingly this isn't in
my notes so I might get it wrong so please feel free to correct me chat if
I'm wrong here but interestingly ad block plus which is the one that kind of
plays ball with the ad servers looks to not be affected by this change.
Oh.
How very...
You know what's really interesting?
So I love Google as much as anyone
whose entire livelihood is dependent on them.
But you know what?
I really don't think they actually have their users' best interests at heart here.
No.
With all of that said.
Okay, so the, sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
The biggest problem that I have with it personally is the improved security and privacy thing.
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to do it, just be open about it.
Yeah.
That's my issue.
Yeah.
If you're going to do it, just be open about it.
Yeah.
That's my issue.
Yeah.
And my problem is now people are going to think that having an ad blocker reduces your security and privacy when it's literally the other way around.
Because the issue here is that it's not like I don't support organizations getting paid through ads for the work they do online.
Hello! And, like, it bugs me slightly internally when people run Adblock on the forum
because all our ads on the forum are, like, as clean as you could possibly have them.
And it's, like, actually a really good experience.
It's, like, actually not a problem.
There's no video ones.
They're all groomed.
Like, everything's fine.
This is a PIA ad that we put up.
There's nothing funky going on with it.
Like, everything's okay. There's, like, nothing.
There's, like, promotion for,
like, oops. Don't click on a thread. Okay.
Tech-linked videos and, like, LTT videos
and stuff. Like, that's actually it.
Don't click on a thread. Uh, no, I can
click on this. Yes. But not on a thread. Yeah.
So we can go. Just because you're on your admin account. Yeah, I know.
See what's in. So we've got, like, one
new egg banner. Oh, heavens.
Oh, and one Amazon banner at the bottom. And those are all fine. So we've got like one new egg banner. Oh heavens. And it's, oh, and one Amazon
banner at the bottom. And those are all fine. So like, it kind of makes me sad when people turn
that off because we do need to, we don't even do like the top one that everyone does. No, a lot of
people do top ones that are like half your screen these days. So like, I totally understand why you
want it on, on some websites. I know Imgur, Imgur, whatever, has had a lot of malicious ads on their site.
And there are a lot of malicious ads out there
that have like-
Totally.
Injections and like all this other like terrible stuff.
Or that just-
I completely understand why you might have it.
Track who you are.
Yeah.
Like one really good one is logging your IP
when you click on an image
so that you can be exploited later.
Like it's just-
Yeah, like there are terrible things that ads do.
I completely understand why you would want an ad blocker i do wish it was certain websites were white listed
sometimes but like saying that your security is improved by removing ad blockers is asinine
because there are tons of security problems that come with malicious ads that are all over the
internet so like if google were to just say we're doing this because a big part of our business is serving ads online and
quite frankly we think people blocking
ads sucks, then I'd
be like, okay, fine.
Honestly, I can kind of get behind that. This will
reopen the browser wars, but
I think that needs to happen anyways.
That's a good thing.
But they're not doing that.
No. I hope it reopens
the browser wars anyways. In other fascinating news, the lawsuit against AMD for allegedly misrepresenting how many cores their processor has, has been allowed to continue.
So those of you who remember Bulldozer, oh, poor Bulldozer, will also remember that each module had two integer processors and then one shared floating point scheduler.
So basically, in a traditional sense, you'd have both an integer unit and a floating point unit per core.
But AMD was sharing their floating point resources between two integer units or whatever the ratio was.
Blah, blah, blah blah blah. Anyway,
the point is that a lot of the time the the line between what makes an
individual core and what makes two cores has been a little bit blurry because in
the old days you wouldn't have things like a shared cache between two cores
but but now you do. So AMD said it was going to share instruction fetch and decode stages,
floating point units, and the level two cache between two cores, and then blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So someone pointed out to Best of Con the company is saying
its own integer execution pipeline qualifies as a core, if only because most processor workloads
emphasize integer
math.
So that's why they figured having two integer units made
it two cores, even though they were sharing components that
would have traditionally and indeed have continued
to be seen as necessary for a single processor core.
So there's a class action lawsuit
that's probably not going anywhere,
if we're being honest, where people are saying
AMD misled the
public so calling calling it and at their FX processors eight core CPUs
because of the shared resources between cores and bulldozer modules the lawsuit
alleges the claim was deceptive about real-world performance the issue here is
that saying how many cores a CPU has doesn't say anything about real-world
performance what are you gonna go complain that an Atom processor with four cores is deceptive
about its real world performance?
No, it's still an Atom processor, and AMD bulldozer cores were still there.
Crappy cores.
Like if you looked at any benchmark ever, you'd know that.
Although for some reason, AMD fanboys were like, they had like this amazing blind spot.
It looked a little something like this. La, la, la.
La, la, la, la.
It's still good enough for gaming.
La, la, la, la.
Look at this.
Two workloads that it's really good at.
La, la, la.
It happens, like, every time, though.
And it's so funny because they come after me.
They're like, oh, yeah, now that Ryzen's out, you're like, now you're on the AMDD.
No.
And you were an Intel fanboy, now you're this.
Like, no.
64.
It's because the situation changed.
Yeah.
There's no such thing as being on a team or not on a team.
It's a processor.
Get the better one.
Who cares?
Get the better one.
Anyway, I'm probably not going anywhere.
The judge did reject AMD's request to dismiss the lawsuit, so it'll proceed, but it's not going anywhere. The judge did reject AMD's request to dismiss the lawsuit,
so it'll proceed, but it's not going anywhere.
Facebook got caught writing fake Amazon reviews for the Portal.
Kind of silly.
Apparently employees were caught leaving five-star reviews on Amazon
for the Portal video chat device.
New York Times reporters noticed reviews were being left
by people with the same names as Facebook employees.
And apparently Facebook, was it Facebook?
Employees had not been, Facebook says employees
had not been instructed to leave good reviews
and they are asking them to take them down.
So, sure.
Boy. Can they do anything right lately
it's like having a you know what else they're doing
the uh yeah
messaging integration is that what you're going
no oh they're integrating
instagram whatsapp and facebook messenger
into one messaging service
they said they were
gonna leave them alone good idea at all
this seems like a terrible idea
yeah i don't think whatsapp users are going to enjoy that remotely half the reason that people
are on instagram is because they don't want to hear from their grandma on facebook messenger
but no you will they will be intercompatible according to tech links i think that's gonna
really hurt instagram yeah i think so. Although I guess you could probably have like non-linked accounts, you know?
I guess.
But still, oof.
That's not a great idea.
There's some other Facebook news.
Apparently Zuckerberg did something terrible again.
I don't remember what it is though and it's not in here.
Okay, well, I've had enough.
Oh, there's a reminder in here for me to read some super chats.
Can we please get PewDiePie on Floatplane?
It would be free marketing for you.
Trust me, we'd love to.
I have never even met Felix, let alone pitched him coming on Floatplane.
So, yeah, best of luck to you with that and me.
Thanks, man.
Thanks.
Thank you, Van.
Hunter says, also, my profile pic was the first PC I ever built, six to seven years Thanks, man. Thanks. Thank you, Van. Hunter says,
also my profile pic
was the first PC
I ever built
six to seven years ago
with your help.
I think I missed
your first message, Hunter,
but thank you.
What else we got?
Hunter, oh,
said,
hey, Linus,
just want to let you guys know
I'm going after
a business information system
degree right now
because years ago
you guys created
a passion in tech for me.
So here is 10 bucks for being awesome. Well, thank you uh drake says life and i are thinking of coming up from
the states to ltx but i need a dinner recommendation to make up for dragging her along i've seen
stephanie's post about places to visit but what would linus do oh i am the worst person to ask
about like where to go sorry oh yeah you can go to banana leaf yeah check out that banana leaf
oh what's uh what's that thai place you really like too thai by thai that's in suri oh forget it don't go to
that we're doing richmond but there's a really good place there's a really good thai place
downtown salad thai is really good too there okay i'd go to banana leaf though go to banana leaf get
the um if you like seafood the abundance of seafood and gulai sauce or something like that
i don't even like seafood if you're in that dish is amazing if you're in richmond and you like seafood, the abundance of seafood in gulai sauce or something like that. I don't even like seafood.
That dish is amazing.
If you're in Richmond and you like barbecue, go to Hog Shack.
Race Geek Birch.
Hello, I have a new PC and I'm struggling with my recordings.
Doesn't matter what I do to bit rate.
It still gets choppy footage.
9900K with a 1070 Ti?
Encoding speed.
Yeah.
No matter what your CPU is, you can't go slowest.
Yeah.
So just try fast or very fast.
Just because it's not working right now, jump to very fast first,
and then try to dial it up from there and see how it works.
Fake Dragonite says,
You can always count on Linus to class up the show.
You didn't see that part, I'm assuming.
Sam says, I tried tried shadow it has a long
way to go i can see it being useful for cloud computing but they don't like it for gaming just
yet so that's a big your mileage may vary thing um down the street it was great but i do think
and they acknowledge they have a lot more infrastructure to build out um jake says at
least it'll be better than tanaCon. Thanks. It already has been.
Yeah, that's true, actually.
We did follow through on our ball pit commitment the first year.
That was defeating TumblrCon.
David says, hello from Nebraska.
Yeah.
If you have ever heard of it.
I've heard of Nebraska.
The chick from Big Bang Theory is from Nebraska.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It's just in the Americas.
I'll be flying out there with the wife for four days.
First two for her, last two for me.
Brandon's turning our lights off.
Also says, my wife is used to your voice.
Hassan says, can't come to LTX but want to support.
Wow, thank you, Hassan.
Thank you.
Soko says, love the show.
Just turned 18 two hours ago.
Happy birthday.
And already having all kinds of existential crises.
Is this what adulthood is like?
Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Wait till you turn 30.
Yeah.
And I'm sure it gets worse.
Mikel says, just wanted to say, why did you open the red?
For God's sake.
That camera's like the value of my car.
Please finish that video.
You have a pretty expensive car.
Um...
Yeah...
You know what I mean?
Oh! Apparently our roast is really good. I actually haven't tried it yet.
A bunch of people tried it.
Nice.
So there's like an LTT roast that lined this, hasn't tried, but like, everyone else here has tried.
Um...
Okay. So I opened the red...
...to see what would happen.
Okay, so I opened the red to see what would happen.
What do you people want from me?
Were you really expecting a different answer?
The best part is because I forgot to do like a before thermals test, I have to put it back together.
Do a bunch of testing,
then take it apart again,
then work on measuring for blocks,
then put it back together again, probably,
to like test fit,
then take it apart,
then like... What percentage chance do you think it'll work at the end of it?
40?
And I'm happy with that,
as long as we get content out of it at each stage along the way
I think your wife is gonna murder you if we don't oh, yeah, we have we have to go to badminton tonight
Don't we what time does it start? Oh
But we need dinner
Okay, we should go. Okay. Bye everyone. Bye
This wife
Yeah, no, I'm not.
Or I am, but... No, I'm not, sorry.
Hold on.
It's easier if you tell me now why.
Oh, okay.