The WAN Show - End Of The GPU Shortage! - WAN Show April 01, 2022

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How you doing everyone and welcome to the WAN show we got a great show lined up for you guys today with some big changes New banner our producer Jake Belevance now has a microphone. Hello everybody Hey, how about that? And we have a lot of great topics for you first up The end of the GPU shortage is nigh the end of the GPU shortage is nigh! Knock on wood, of course, because the last thing I want to do is jinx this mess. Also, we're definitely going to be talking a little bit about the video that went up yesterday.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yeah. A lot of people had some questions about how that particular mess came to be. I have some teasers for you guys. We have locked in compensation for the head of LTT Labs, and we are going to be ready to announce a name next Friday on WAN Show. You guys are going to want to make sure you do not miss that. I'm going to try to arrange to have this individual on the show to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:01:05 I've got some hints for you guys and i would love to see if any of you get it right so we'll be talking about that a little bit later what else we got today apple meta discord and more tricked into giving user data to hackers posing as law enforcement zero dollars in the chat if you're able to guess who it is because you probably can. Also Sony takes on Xbox Game Pass with new PlayStation Plus Tears merges with PlayStation Now. Oh yeah and E3 is cancelled.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Oh no. All right, obviously we're going to have to jump into our first big topic today, the end of the GPU shortage. That's right, good news everyone. The shortage hellhole that we've been living through may finally be coming to a close. It seems that there are GPUs available at a number of stores, multiple SKUs of GPUs in stock, multiple price points. I mean, the pricing is still a little wild, but ASUS came out and said they are dropping the MSRPs of their GPUs substantially. And it would seem like if there are enough GPUs around, people are going to stop paying exorbitant prices to scalpers, which means that competition, things should start to get a little less wild.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Don't take my word for it, of course. You can see for yourself. I'm going to fire up microcenter.com here. It here's gonna just do a quick screen share we're already seeing the effects both from traditional retailers and from scalps absolutely look at this 3090 ti yes 2200 is a freaking lot of money but it's only 200 higher than the msrp which isn't even that unusual for an FTW3 Ultra version of a top-tier GPU. It's already going to be slightly higher than the factory version. RTX 3070 Ti. Remember, this is a card that launched after NVIDIA launched the 3000 series with MSRPs that were really aggressive. So 3070 came in at $500 MSRP now the TI version is going today for okay $200 more
Starting point is 00:03:29 so is it a little inflated yeah but it's not it's not crazy you know as bad as it has been yes exactly it is better exactly man and you know what I feel like there's going to be a lot of people out there That are going yeah Linus Whatever we know that You're running a 3090 And you can you know conjure A card if you feel like it No I agree with them
Starting point is 00:03:56 Whatever Linus But here's the thing Guys okay A I actually bought more cards during this period than i ever have had to before it's true why because we decked out the editing den i actually bought a crap ton of super expensive gpus so that sucked right and number two guys do you have any idea how hard it's been to do our job i've actually seen a lot of comments from people that noticed like hey you guys really pivoted your content a lot over the last 18 months because when nobody is excited about building pcs you
Starting point is 00:04:41 gotta do something else we gotta find we gotta find some way to to engage with people and people enjoy the bling content when there's a reasonable down-stepped option that they can buy that is still really cool like it's fun to see uh like some halo pride it's fun to go look at some like brand new amazing car when you know that you can still afford a car from that brand maybe not the same one exactly when it's like basically impossible by anything at all then how why are you even going to bother being a pc enthusiast for people that me where like i didn't used to back when i absorbed this type of content much more frequently back when i did that i would do it mostly around when i was making builds exactly i wasn't a fan viewer i was i was more like informational viewer
Starting point is 00:05:24 informational viewers what you're not building computers anyways and like so why are you watching I was making builds. Exactly. I wasn't a fan viewer. I was more like informational viewer. Informational viewers, you're not building computers anyways. So why are you watching? Okay, what's really cool about seeing the latest and greatest is that because, especially the way
Starting point is 00:05:33 that things have been progressing faster lately, because of the way that computer technology continues to develop and get more exciting, whatever you see that's latest and greatest
Starting point is 00:05:44 shiny, you know, halo tier product, you see that's latest and greatest shiny you know halo tier product well that's probably going to be available to you yeah as a mid-range product one cycle for two cycles down the road yeah and so when everything when even an entry-level enthusiast gaming card was completely unattainable to people i it just man it just sucked the fun out of it you know and for us too we're sitting there going what is even the point we can't not review a new gpu i'm not going to be like anthony don't even bother actually we did do that for one card i can't remember which one it was we were just like forget it but not not for like big halo major releases stuff like that you gotta we can't just ignore them we have to we have to talk about them but how boring is it to talk about them and just go yeah everything's unreasonable this sucks it's this sucks we can only make a video that says
Starting point is 00:06:41 yeah this sucks oh yeah so budget bills guide this is like bottom of the line stuff it's going to cost you fourteen hundred dollars yeah it just it pulls the entire life force out of the gaming and the pc enthusiast communities so i i just yeah i'm i am so happy this is such a relief for me. And the other thing too is like, yeah, I was able to get a card for my personal rig for sure. But it's not like I don't have friends
Starting point is 00:07:12 or neighbors that are affected by this whole situation. We had the neighbor kid come over and he's just like, hey, Linus, I got this. I picked up this used PC on Craigslist. He was basically trying to pull a Scrapyard Wars. He picked up a used PC on Craigslist he was basically trying to pull a scrapyard wars he picked up a used pc on craigslist that was like pretty decent but didn't have a gpu and he's like
Starting point is 00:07:30 and i realized that gpus are totally unreasonable this sucks i'm like yeah man i it does suck because for years we've been suggesting people that that they pull their own scrapyard wars essentially go out buy used parts try to do all this kind of stuff but the use market is just because for years we've been suggesting people that they pull their own scrapyard wars, essentially. Go out, buy used parts, try to do all this kind of stuff, but the used market is just destroyed. Yeah. Like, it's brutal. It's a total mess.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's really whack when it's technically cheaper to not go to the used market. Right. Like, that's just, oh, that's an uncomfortable situation. I've got a mind-blowing story for you. situation i've got a mind-blowing story for you our new um our new place uh is let's just say could be a little bit challenging because the road network that leads to it could be a little bit challenging to navigate in heavy snow and we don't get a ton of snow in vancouver but for five ten years pretty much every year we've gotten at least one significant dump of snow that grinds the whole city to a halt unless
Starting point is 00:08:34 you have a very capable vehicle and snow tires or chains and not being able to get in and out of my neighborhood is a bit of a problem for me so i started to exploit exploit i started to explore vehicle alternatives to our honda odyssey okay yeah toyota's latest version of the sienna their minivan actually has a it's a hybrid but it's weird it's like kind of in between a hybrid hybrid and a plug-in hybrid in that you do not plug it in but it can run on pure electric for very short periods interesting very strange okay all right so anyway but it's a hybrid not a plug-in hybrid but what it does have is it have is it has electric motor assisted selective all-wheel drive so if it detects a need for all-wheel drive it can actually go into
Starting point is 00:09:23 all-wheel drive mode which would be great for being able and not only that but we've taken up uh skiing with the kids and getting up and down the mountain i'd be a little more confident in an all-wheel drive vehicle but i'm not ready to give up that minivan life because sliding doors man oh trust me okay when you're a dad you want doors that go like this okay not? Not like this. Like this. Can you manually go into all-wheel drive as well, or is it just automatic? I don't know, but it's definitely better than... Not being able to do it at all.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Not at all. Sure, okay. Brutal George in Twitch chat says, snow tires greater than all-wheel drive. Absolutely. We do that too. But snow tires plus all-wheel drive, definitely, definitely a thing to do. So I went to the Toyota dealership. I knew that I was, okay, A,
Starting point is 00:10:12 there isn't a single Toyota dealership. I called literally all of them. There's like nine of them in the lower mainland. Not a single one had a 2022 Odyssey on the lot. Not for sale, even on the lot, physically on the lot. Nothing, not a single one. So that's hilarious. Number two, when I i went in i was already aware of this but i was told that it is anywhere from a six to eight month wait if you get lucky to a two-year wait for the top tier model which
Starting point is 00:10:40 conveniently wasn't the one i wanted anyway. And get this, the sales guy, and he really like had no reason to lie to me about this. Cause he's like, yeah, you're going to be waiting a very long time. Um, so I understand if you don't want to,
Starting point is 00:10:56 I had someone call in earlier and they, they canceled their reservation because they bought a last year's model used for $10,000 over MSRP sticker price. Vehicle scalping. That's the new meta. Okay? That's what we've come to. Vehicle scalping.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Imagine paying, imagine like what timeline is this where you drive off the dealer's lot and your car appreciates 10 grand it's weird man get this it gets worse i went to go drive my girlfriend's car the other day and uh chris prime she yeah she she expressed concern uh because if i crash it or whatever and i was like if i crash it'd be my fault like i would i'm not gonna just like leave you to try to figure out getting a new car when it's my fault and she's like no no no i'm not worried about that you wouldn't be able to get one and i was like oh so when i went shopping for the car for my aunt and uncle. They settled on the Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And because I told them, I was like, look, I know you're not comfortable going full electric like Yvonne's parents, because we did cars for both of them. They've both done so much for us over the years. And it really felt like it was just the right thing to do. Both of them have done so much childcare. They'll go shopping.
Starting point is 00:12:23 They'll spend $400 on groceries for us, like load us up on school lunch stuff and everything we need. And they'll not take money from us. So we were just, it was time to give back. Anyway, the point is, I told them, look, I understand if you're not comfortable going full electric,
Starting point is 00:12:42 if you're kind of not ready for that paradigm shift yet, but trust me, you'll want something plug-in hybrid. I'm not going to let you buy something that's just gas. And I actually, I had some people who were quite critical of the way that I ultimately steered them and that they steered themselves. Like we went to see a lot of different options of full electric and plug-in hybrid,
Starting point is 00:13:03 and they settled on the Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid. And people were like, oh, a Mitsubishi. I tell you what, right now, they are laughing. With gas prices being what they are. And get this, at the Toyota dealership, morbid curiosity. I asked, because this was one of the other vehicles they were considering waiting for and they were looking at. I asked, what's the lead time on the rav4 prime guess year and a half
Starting point is 00:13:31 oh you're not even close mr lafreniere way too low oh you're way too low like three years three to five years what the heck now i i don't i don't think that it will actually take five years that seems like it was long enough that they were just like whatever just make it a really big number so that people are either buckled in for the extreme long term or not at all yeah or they just won't get on the list because we do not need more people on this list exactly yeah oh man yeah can you imagine making your car purchasing decision five years in advance literally hyper cars do not have lead times like that i'm serious yeah that's nuts so uh So both my aunt and uncle and Yvonne's parents, my in-laws, their cars, the Model Y and the Outlander plug-in hybrid,
Starting point is 00:14:31 if they were to turn around and sell them today, they're worth more than what they paid. I think Brandon was saying his Model X that he bought like four years ago or whatever, he saw one on Facebook Marketplace that is like almost exactly what he paid for it oh my goodness right with the with similar mileage it's insane right now i wonder how long this is gonna last for because like i've seen pictures a long time ago of like a whole bunch of i don't know if i think they're f-150s but it was some type of ford truck yeah there was just
Starting point is 00:15:02 fields of them uh and they weren't able to be sold because they were fully built except for certain electronics yep um and so like is are they gonna get a big windfall of those electronics and then be able to sell these things or like what's actually gonna happen i don't know it's been rough i don't know man it's been rough yeah this is if this keeps going for a lot it was it was the f-150 and the explorer okay uh if this keeps going for much longer like it's just gonna get worse especially with people with the gas prices going how they are and stuff like that people are gonna want to file into the electric field and there's even lower production for that overall yeah so it just yeah it's gonna be bad it's gonna be it's gonna be a freaking mess i mean my vault's worth almost
Starting point is 00:15:45 what i paid for it and i bought that thing like five years ago yeah five years ago i i have i've put tens of thousands of miles on it and it's still worth pretty much what i paid that's crazy man if chevy was still making the vault they would be i wish they they were. Killing it right now. Yeah. They would be killing it. Do you think it was just like before it's time? Yeah, I do. I mean, I think I said that at the time.
Starting point is 00:16:15 When I did the review of it, I was so bullish on it. I was so positive because it's got so much of the benefit of ice, which is that you could just go on a road trip. Spur of the moment, you fuel up in seconds. It's an ice car, effectively, but it's got so much of the benefit of an electric car.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Off the line, it actually, you get that immediate response. You go- Short distances or cents, basically. Yeah, between 70 and 100 kilometers on full electric before you even have to turn on the gasoline engine yeah like it's it's kind of an amazing car and even when the even when your battery is depleted you'll still get regenerative braking you will still it'll still operate as a hybrid your fuel economy is like crazy good yeah yeah and i just it drives me so no I don't drive a Bolt a Volt with the V that was such stupid branding
Starting point is 00:17:07 yeah I loved I loved the Volt just sucks and you don't need as much lithium to build them so you don't have to do as much damaging lithium mining per number of cars that you're building
Starting point is 00:17:24 you don't have to build in this gigantic range. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I love the idea of hybrids. And I know Canada has announced they want 100% EV sales by, I think it's like 2035. This isn't in the docs, so I might get something slightly wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And they have percentage targets moving up to that date and all this kind of stuff. And I was looking at that being like, yeah, like EV sound really good. That's a lot of production overhaul to finish. And I know it's okay, 15 years, whatever. It's still a lot of production overhaul to finish. Fully re-kitting entire factories is really expensive and really time consuming. And never mind the factories.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Where's all that lithium going to come from? Where's all the lithium coming from? I know there's other battery technologies coming up, but I haven't seen anything else actually going into production, right? Battery tech takes a long time to actually get in the field. I was reading about how the copper industry,
Starting point is 00:18:16 copper mining industry, figures they need something like $100 billion with a B worth of investment to meet the growing demand for the next eight years or something like that. Like it's not trivial. You don't just, well, yeah, today I want to do this now. We'd like to have twice as much copper than yesterday. It doesn't work like that. These are, these are projects that need to be started with five year roadmaps to regulatory approvals and build-out and completion until they're actually
Starting point is 00:18:47 online, right? It's not trivial. Yeah. But I was reading that kind of looking at it, just hoping, but I don't think so, that they're actually including plug-in hybrids with that. But I don't think they are. I think they want pure EVs. And I'm like, I don't, that doesn't seem great. I'm far more interested in a plug-in hybrid. I don't know. Me too. I love it. I love it. If I was buying a car right now, I would be aiming at a plug-in hybrid. Yeah, when I was telling Luke,
Starting point is 00:19:14 I was thinking of getting myself something stupid. You know, get a Taycan, or remember the crazy hyper car we talked about? Yeah, it had the Nivera. the name's easy to remember because it's pretty close to what my wife said to me when i asked if i could have one that's pretty good um uh yeah so luke was like hey uh are you getting rid of your whole yeah
Starting point is 00:19:39 it's interesting i my the only reason why i didn't really is that i just drive so infrequently yeah that's fair but that's what the volt's perfect for that's true the maintenance is like way less you don't spin up that gasoline engine except i just wasn't sure like how much i'd have to pay like if i sell my car and buy that one like how much is that loss and yeah there's taxation and all that all that ugly stuff chasing soul is remak never gonna have one yeah pretty much i hear you i hear you hey is it not fun to dream though you know how much that thing goes for too much two million euro too much yeah yeah that's that's one way of putting it anyway looking at 3dcenter.org we can see there is the biggest availability and lowest prices on gpus in two
Starting point is 00:20:27 years and the prices will have to drop further for the cards to keep selling in addition uh the previous american administration stupid tariffs uh were lifted and asus gpus are set to drop by 25 so here's the discussion question from alex clark do you think prices will actually stay down i'm a bit concerned that nvidia amd and everyone else so intel i guess is the everyone else in the gpu market has realized that people will pay much higher prices for gpus than they originally thought i think we were i think we were already seeing this trend i think we've been seeing this trend over the last like four or five years five years i mean i'd say we've been seeing this trend the first time we saw a thousand dollar gpu if i recall correctly was the
Starting point is 00:21:18 8800 ultra and that was over 10 years ago and so the idea of a thousand and remember that was over 10 years ago. And so the idea of a thousand and remember that was a thousand dollars MSRP. So FTWs and whatever, I think we're $1,100, $1,200. What year did Intel do that massive jump on their extreme additions? That was with the, was it the 5,000 series? I feel like that was the 6000 series.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I think you might be right. I think it might have been the 6000 series. That's when it felt like it was very heated up for me. That's when prices on a lot of different things were jumping quite heavily. So yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's going to fully reset to where it was. I do think it's going to come down. Could it even come down more?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Could the less price sensitive consumers have already gone in? And now it's the people who are like, oh, I'm a wait. I think the less price sensitive consumers are people that go in repeatedly. That's fair, right? So they might just go in again when 4000 series launches, which is going to happen this year. We're going to see Intel Arc launch this year. We're going to see the next AMD cards launch this year.
Starting point is 00:22:36 What we might see is that at the very high end, there's less of a lowering than on the lower end, if that makes sense. Oh, Celsius corrects me. The 8800 Ultra wasn't $1,000. The original Titan was. You know what? Sorry, I screwed that up.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It was probably $1,000 Canadian because I was working at NCIX at the time. So I would have priced a card at $1,000, but that would not have been $1,000 for our Americans. Yes, thank you very much. Yes, it was the Titan. And the justification for that was the Titan had more workstation-like capabilities capabilities and then they just stripped it and then that was when they were like
Starting point is 00:23:10 oh it's not a gamer card that's why it's so expensive it's a titan card it's different yeah and then that whole thing went completely out the window thanks very much for that nvidia you want the best for gaming by titan well they figured out everyone buying them was gamers anyway so and then they could charge more for the professional ones, so whatever. What was the original Titan? NVIDIA gonna NVIDIA. The original Titan was $999, if I recall correctly.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Trying to look up anything with Titan is so annoying. Good news then. GPUs finally coming down, but there's bad news. Oh. The price of silicon wafers is projected to increase by 25 by 2025 tsmc has raised prices intel is coming into the third party fab game i'm super excited about that but don't celebrate just yet because part of intel bringing all those fabs online i mean have you guys seen the way that Intel is, I wouldn't say taking a beating on Wall Street, but they are certainly not a Wall Street darling right now. And there's concern that CEO Pat Gelsinger is just, you know, whoa, he's spending so much on new fabs.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Will there be a return? They're going to have to make that back. They're not going to come in and undercut everybody, right? Like they're building more fabs because we need more capacity even if prices go up. And okay, I do not do stock tips. This is not investment advice. I think Intel strategy is awesome
Starting point is 00:24:42 and I think they're going to kill it. I think it's just one of those things that's a longer term play than your investment TV host is prepared to advise based on. I'm bullish, but I own no Intel stock. I have no plans to take an Intel stock position. The only investment that I have outside of Linus Media Group Inc., Creator Warehouse Inc., Floatplane Media Inc., companies that I and Yvonne control, is framework. So I own my $100,000 of framework or $200,000 of framework. That should give you some idea, by the way, how much it's affecting our content. I don't actually remember how much it was. That was a conscious decision. I want it to be out of sight out of mind i don't want it to be about the appreciation i just i hope they've achieved their mission that's all yeah um i mean if i make money great i like making money you know but i i'm not thinking about it but i like i like what
Starting point is 00:25:42 intel's doing that's that's what i have to say about that but fabs online when there isn't enough capacity to other fabs makes sense it makes sense but it costs a freaking lot of money yeah uh man this video still hasn't come out yet you know what i'm gonna give you guys a teaser because those intel those intel fab videos they've taken it's taken a lot of layers of legal review okay a lot of a lot of rounds blurring and and small edits but they showed us this is crazy uh one of the construction projects that they have going right now they literally built their own concrete factory on the corner of the lot because that's they were going to need so much concrete that rather than trucking it in,
Starting point is 00:26:25 they just make it there. Okay. Big brain. Big brain, okay? Hey, man, gas is expensive. Oh, I love it. Guys, those tours are going to be wild. Don't miss them when they finally get uploaded.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It'll happen eventually. Anyway, there's more bad news. As more foundries are getting built in Europe and the US, there's greater demand for wafers, but the wafer-making companies don't have plans to expand as quickly as the foundries are being made.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yep. Oh, that's a big problem. Right. The supply of actual wafers. Oh, balls. Currently, almost all wafers are sold through 2024. And some suppliers have said that all their wafers are sold through 2026 so for those not familiar the wafers are cut from
Starting point is 00:27:16 the silicon ingots which are these giant like 150 pound okay that's in the videos too but we actually show a full ingot it's crazy really cool yeah it's wild um that's in the videos too, but we actually show a full ingot. It's crazy. That's really cool. Yeah, it's wild. That's sweet. So they're sliced from an ingot and there's these crazy, super pure silicon. It's not just like, yeah, just go to the beach, you know, grind up some fricking sand.
Starting point is 00:27:36 There's your silicon, boys. Don't work like that. So there's no wafers, even if you have a fab, which is great, I guess. However, even if wafers even if you have a fab which is great i guess um however even if wafers do go up that should only be a you know few percent increase in cost but it does mean it will go up um anthony also says hey don't forget about neon recent geopolitical events have affected the worldwide supply of neon which is is an important material. It's a noble gas, okay? Important material in the production of microprocessors.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And the biggest worldwide supplier of neon happens to be... Ukraine. Yeah. So, I think I speak for everyone when I say, f*** you, Putin. Putin. I like it. Yeah, but you know what? I don don't even care i don't even care what your name is i hope history forgets you i don't but that would be great yeah
Starting point is 00:28:32 well yeah we should learn from probably not actually yeah we probably should not yeah we should learn from mistakes but i i yeah i just yeah right there, buddy. Yeah, hell yeah. And obviously that is the least of the problems being caused by what's going on over there. Just, it's disgusting is pretty much all I have to say for that. I condemn aggression in any form. So, yeah. Yeah. In other news.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Do we have any topics about April Fool's Day jokes That aren't our own No I actually didn't really Usually the Wancho April Fool's Day episode Has like Reviewing all the other people's April Fool's Day stuff But I don't think there's like any I actually didn't look that closely
Starting point is 00:29:21 At anyone's other than Corsair's Because Corsair's So funny they actually sent us a working one What I don't even know what it is I actually didn't look that closely at anyone's other than Corsair's because Corsair's so funny. They actually sent us a working one. I don't even know what it is. It's the 1% keyboard. We have an LTT short on it. I shot it with our new social guy.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Corsair K1 RGB. Yeah, the K1 RGB. Our new social guy is off probation In like two weeks so you guys will be meeting him very soon I love that it has a wrist rest It totally does Totally does Uh
Starting point is 00:29:55 This is interesting How do you find a short On the web version Of YouTube I don't know. I have no... Oh, here it is. Okay, it eventually shows up.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Here, this compact keyboard is great for gaming, ladies and gentlemen. We're going to watch a short together. King of gaming keyboards, all right? Keyboard for the 1%, okay? Very expensive. I game on it by the way oh before I game I have to go to Corsair.com wait is there no timeline you can't
Starting point is 00:30:36 scrub oh that's so stupid shorts are an amazing feature yeah why can't you scrub that sucks you missed me going to corsair.com though luke okay wait for it wait for it i gotta get the drivers i gotta get the drivers okay okay okay gotta go to corsair.com here we go corsair.com apparently it's here here oh we have it all right thanks jono yeah here here you go, Luke. You can witness it in person.
Starting point is 00:31:05 The only key you'll ever need. Wow. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Shorts on floatplane when? I don't think we're working on that. I don't think we have pretty much any interest in that, actually. Yeah, for the time being. You can just release a short video if you wanted.
Starting point is 00:31:21 We're not algorithm-based. So, like, just release a short video i guess we probably should like upload them or something maybe with no notifications so that people don't oh they're asking for you guys okay i thought they meant like the feature i was like yeah i don't know yeah fair enough i don't want to work on i don't want to work on that we can just we can just have you how do you open this box i'm sure you'll figure it out eventually happy how do you open this box i'm sure you'll figure it out eventually in the meantime i want to give you guys some teasers the lab the lab project is very much underway we have two people that are already in office right now we have deals not maybe inked but at least penciled with at least two more, and the head of the lab, I am ready to give you guys some hints.
Starting point is 00:32:08 So number one, it is not Dr. Ian Cutress. Ian already came out with a video on his channel, Tech Tech Potato, you guys should go check it out. His new venture is called More Than More, and he's in kind of an independent analyst role so that's what ian's up to so i will drop some more hints though that will hopefully get you guys a little bit closer okay it's a former written media superstar from like the the mid 2000s
Starting point is 00:32:45 I genuinely don't think that's going to help very many people you don't think that's going to help very many people it will help some people but I genuinely think most of the audience is not white guy nerdy that's probably not that helpful really in the tech industry in the mid 2000s
Starting point is 00:33:04 shut up this is amazingly perfectly overbuilt I know right really in the tech industry in the mid-2000s. Shut up. This is amazingly perfectly overbuilt, by the way. I know, right? This is great. Sorry, keep going. Okay. They are a veteran of one of the big three tech sites in the US. They are relocating to Canada.
Starting point is 00:33:26 All right. They do not have a prickly personality. There's some people guessing someone that has a very prickly personality. And it is not that particular person who I have had my disagreements with over the years. But I think we're in a pretty good place now. So, hey, if you're out there um i think we chill right buddy it is not it's not steve from gamers nexus steve's doing his own thing and i don't think i've seen it i will give one more hint they are currently uh oh no, Oh no, I'm not going to give that hint.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah. That's too much. I'm not going to give that hint. Um, so far I think it would be really hard if you gave that one. It's like, yeah, I need it to be pretty hard because I think there are still people that this
Starting point is 00:34:17 particular person works with that do not know yet. Right. And, and they should be, they should be the one to tell them. Right. They should be the one to tell them. I should be the one to tell them i probably wouldn't go that much further then yeah i'm not going to go any further i'm super excited to tell you guys and guess what next week we will announce it
Starting point is 00:34:38 for real i'm hoping to have this person on the show oh nice yeah which would be really exciting where we can talk a little bit about the vision for the lab so they wouldn't physically be here right no they'd have to call in i think they're not up here until uh late this month i should talk to i've got a i've got a buddy who works on this like remote call thing that's supposed to be better for streaming so maybe i'll talk to him but cool that would be that would be awesome no i have not given a name before what's the matter oh oh excited and i don't think i saw people guess which is good yeah all right i mean i don't know maybe maybe uh maybe he's not as big a heavy hitter as i thought it's just been a while maybe i overpaid oh jk we good we good jk
Starting point is 00:35:31 uh speaking of uh totally paid the appropriate amount sponsor spots uh let's do one more topic first okay okay let's do one more topic uh let's do your social engineering topic here. Social engineering topic? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let me find it. Apple, Meta, Discord, and more tricked into giving user data to hackers posing as law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:35:55 On Wednesday, Bloomberg... Bloomberg. Bloomberg. It will be assimilated. Hi, I'm Michael Bloomberg. I am president of everything now. JK, I'm not president of anything. What a campaign he ran, though.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Right, yeah. Bloomberg reported that large tech services companies like Apple and Facebook gave user data to hackers who forged emergency data requests, or EDRs. data requests or edrs edrs are used to bypass warrants and subpoenas orders signed by a judge in cases of imminent danger to get subscriber information that tech companies hold hackers with some now a part of lapsus wow stunning uh posed as law enforcement submitting edrs using hacked email domains in 2021 the fake requests are made to appear legitimate, of course, using forged signatures of real or fictional law enforcement officers. Data released as a result of EDRs include IP addresses,
Starting point is 00:36:54 phone numbers, and home addresses. That's a lot. Apple in particular is commonly cited as being more privacy focused than other competitors and now has a non-zero amount of egg on its face after heavily advertising uh that what happens on your iphone stays on your iphone stuff i mean the second apple agreed to have a data center where all their chinese user data is stored basically run by the chinese government you knew that what they were saying was just obvious
Starting point is 00:37:25 horseshit yeah so why do we even acknowledge apple's privacy messaging at this point phones are not secure devices none of them why do we i don't i don't get it it's like their environmental messaging just fucking ignore it yeah in one ear out the other ignore it if you like the product buy the product but understand you're just buying the product that's it life is constant pvp you have to understand that a lot of these companies like they are they are paying an actively large amount of people to go against what you should probably be wishing for yep and trying to to fight you and and push you into situations where you think
Starting point is 00:38:05 differently uh in in a beneficial way for them anyways moving forward uh in response to the news meta said we review every data request for legal sufficiency and use advanced systems and processes to validate law enforcement requests and detect abuse um although that clearly didn't work so that's a very interesting statement to follow that up with um one second no um do do do yeah so there's some discussion questions here how can we trust tech companies you can't to respect the private information they collect uh if they can be conned into releasing it to anyone who claims to be a cop well you can't in the first place um because if it's digitally transmitted at all there's there's potential zero days there's potential whatever's they could be like a lot of these companies are actually extremely good at security just to like just to be completely honest yeah i mean the fact that fact that the point of ingress
Starting point is 00:39:05 was social engineering tells you that their digital security might actually be great. Pretty good. But humans will always be a fly in the ointment. And this sounds like pretty advanced social engineering. Yeah. But you just, yeah, you just shouldn't, you shouldn't inherently just trust anybody with your private information.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You should try to be as careful with it as possible. Should EDRs exist? Do the potential benefits of catching criminals outweigh the risks for consumers? I think that's maybe not the question for us. Yeah, I... I didn't even know about them until today. So I think weighing in on them is... I am unprepared.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I think it's finally time for us to do the de-Google-ify your life video. It's going to be a ton of work and I don't think it'll get a ton of views because by and large, people are not interested in it. They want convenience. But how to run your own Dropbox know your own dropbox on your own nas on your own network and just have everything be walled off from big tech i think is just something we need to
Starting point is 00:40:14 we need to just kind of even in those situations i don't want to like those those self-hosted dropbox things it's still running some form of software people are still going to be able to find zero days for it yeah okay yes if it's on the internet it's not fully safe sure there's nothing you can do about a zero day that's fair enough but when we're talking individuals i think the obscurity of the target is helps a lot a a great degree of protection it not entirely, though. No, no, you're right. By that logic, nobody would be looking at people's unsecured webcams,
Starting point is 00:40:50 but they do. Yeah, exactly. So I hear you. Because sometimes you can just sniff out targets, and it's not even people actively doing it. They'll find a zero-day, be able to sniff out targets, and they'll just scattershot
Starting point is 00:40:59 and grab everything they can, and maybe there's some banking information, maybe there's some other stuff. Whatever. But, you know, at least you're doing your due diligence. can and maybe there's some banking information maybe there's some other stuff whatever but you know at least you're at least you're doing your due diligence at least you're doing something yeah you know so yeah i think we definitely gotta we gotta we gotta tackle that we gotta do that um discussion question number two this is should we have ever trusted our private info to these
Starting point is 00:41:24 companies to begin with no and anthony actually put his notes in here and that's why i no longer use most big tech services if possible i mean one thing that i will say from personal experience i'm not going to give too much detail but i i mean i think i should talk a little bit about this experience i think people not talking about it just allows scammers free reign i think you shouldn't go into very much okay i won't go into very much detail but uh my wife and i were recently victims of wire fraud and the point of ingress was a company that we worked with that uh had just company that you worked with oh yeah i'm not going to say who they what they do okay but i'm going to say what happened was a third party gained access to
Starting point is 00:42:10 their email system full access so what they did was they basically as far as we can tell they chilled in there for an extended period of time yeah watching yeah once you got access you don't act right away so they chilled in there they watched incoming things that were happening they watched who the clients were they they when they reached out to to us it was in the tone and style of writing that we were accustomed to. The from domain was correct because they had full access to the email system. Our messages going to them were being diverted and then were being replied to from the correct domain and seemingly from the correct people.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Even just like which that's gonna get past so much like common practices for for for sniffing these types of things out absolutely because a lot of people will like okay uh this is a little suspicious in terms of the request or whatever so i'm gonna jump in i'm gonna check this domain i'm gonna check these keys i'm gonna do whatever but they had all that stuff which is crazy and so you know the conversation that yvonne and i had i'm not even gonna say who ultimately was the one who sent the wire to what was ultimately a fraudulent address uh you know the other of us basically said could have been me too could have easily been me this is very sophisticated um apparently this is called business email compromise it has a name so there you go um and the good news is that
Starting point is 00:43:56 through methods that i am not going to get into any detail uh even though some time passed before we were made aware, we have been able to freeze the funds. And we are currently working through the fraud team X, some fraud team and legal authorities on getting it returned to us. So our sincere hope is that we are going to come out of this without learning a very expensive lesson but i will also say that we will absolutely be putting more measures in place for any wire that goes out any payment that goes out because a wire is it's very challenging to recall it's basically like sending cash yeah effectively so um kevin close and floatplane chat says wife and i work for a bank and we deal with this stuff more and more recently yeah yeah it's a it's i i basically what i said when the thing happened was that I've never encountered a scam so convincing. This is so many tiers above, you know, I'm a Nigerian prince locked in jail.
Starting point is 00:45:16 All I need is for you to post bail for me and I will send you a million dollars, right? Like that, this level of sophistication is incredible and i the reason that i want to talk about it is that i have talked the talk in the past about how important it is for people who are victims of fraud and and scams to not be ashamed and not keep it to themselves because it's so important to get the word out there. And I feel like even though I haven't given all of the details because I don't want to, I don't want to dox anybody. I don't want to get anybody in any kind of additional hassle, you know, um, I've given you guys enough details that in your daily dealings. And if you share this story with other people that, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:03 hopefully they can put additional measures in place that will help protect them from it because it was a really sophisticated attack. Yeah. And this technically actually does not solve all the problems, but picking up the phone is helpful. They can change the phone number in the email. Which was done. Yeah, that's a fairly common thing. But try to... Buy like one digit.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, try to have the original phone number. Yep. Don't call the one that's in the email. That's that's a fairly common thing but try to buy like one digit try to yeah try to have the original phone number yep don't call the one that's in the email that's right call the original one that you have or the one that's listed on their website which again can also be compromised yep and this is this is a crazy thing because they had access to the email they had access to all their templates yeah so everything was on proper letterhead yeah and and this was like a multi-dozen email chain going back and forth negotiating on this wire. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 This type of stuff gets past a lot of the common practices to avoid social engineering problems. It does. Trackel says it's not that sophisticated. Compared to Nigerian print scams coming from some random email domain. Yeah, writing in the style. It's pretty sophisticated.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Writing in the style, continuing on with a current thing, a current project that is already ongoing, picking up right where it left off with all the right names, all the right communication styles, email going back and forth correctly as far as the user can tell.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's pretty sophisticated by comparison, yeah. What's wrong with that person's definition of sophisticated? Because DDoS isn't very sophisticated. So where is their zero? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's just a little bit of sort of armchair coaching. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Why did you drop that ball? I've done cooler stuff than that before. Yeah. So it's tough. It's tough. Kilvor says, can't you hold the company accountable? It's 100% on them. So it's a little complicated, right?
Starting point is 00:48:02 We still need to work with that company, for one thing. For number two, assessing the blame in a situation like this is, I think, one of those things where it certainly wouldn't be as simple as full blame here or full blame here.
Starting point is 00:48:17 We did send the wire. It is my belief that the notification to us could and should have come sooner. But that's something that would have to be settled in court we could spend so much on lawyers that it ends up ultimately not being worth it yeah and sometimes you can sue for your legal fees absolutely but what if this is what if this is a this is a situation where the company just kind of goes well okay well we're bankrupt see you later well now he's gonna pay our legal fees someone will so it's challenging right yeah
Starting point is 00:48:49 yeah uh this guy does stuff you know what these are words to live by no matter how savvy you think you are you can be had don't be a jerk sound the alarm absolutely yeah absolutely and that's what i'm that's what i'm trying to do right now is say look it happened to me and i'm not going to say i'm the i'm the savviest customer in the world but i'm pretty aware of things to look for and this one it got by my radar there were things that smelled weird about it and there were times we you know what we we probably knew better between the two of us but we were in a hurry and actually that's a that's a big one just being in a hurry i was
Starting point is 00:49:41 just gonna say i think that honestly the biggest problem here is that you guys just have so much stuff on your plate and i was i was reading up on how people are defeating 2fa these days and a big one is figuring out what the 2fa device is and there's a way to generate spam login prompts and so once you've compromised the password you then especially in the middle of the night for example you do like a few requests and people, they're not thinking right they'll just return one and then you're in
Starting point is 00:50:16 and once you're in you add an alternate recovery email and you can do all these things that they might not get a notification for, actually a lot of things that they might not get a notification for actually a lot of services are better about giving you a notification when an email is added and things like that but there are there are still things that can be done that could compromise that could at least give them access and at worst compromise your access to your own accounts yeah
Starting point is 00:50:40 there's also just like i mean while we're talking about security stuff i was watching um this video recently where someone was talking about war driving have talked to you about i've talked about war driving before war driving i don't know if i'm familiar with the term war driving used to be more common back when wi-fi passwords were like just incredibly easy to crack people would walk not, people would drive around with a laptop in their car with stuff running to just automatically crack all the Wi-Fi networks that they drove by. And you could effectively make mobile internet by just setting up a system that would jump onto these networks that you had previously cracked as you
Starting point is 00:51:22 were driving around um someone was talking about modern versions of that because modern wi-fi encryption kind of defeated that sort of uh except that a lot of people use extremely defeatable passwords so it's like yes okay you can't like beat these encryption levels or these like length of passwords in a reasonable amount of time uh if it's garbly gook probably like yeah there's technically a chance that it'll grab it on the first attempt but the chance is effectively zero so forget about it but there's a huge amount of people that just use their phone numbers so this guy drove around war driving but with it only guessing numbers only numbers and he used the local area code as the first few and just got tons of them
Starting point is 00:52:15 like it's ridiculous so don't do that so funny that is gracious yeah i don't know oh all right security's tough and it's an active activity active activity it's a it's it's an active process that people have to take part in um and a lot of people won't have a problem it's very boring and it's very annoying to keep up with yep And people won't have a problem for a long time. So they'll let it start to slip and then they'll get hit and it hurts. And then they got to figure it out from there. Can hurt real bad.
Starting point is 00:52:53 One of the things that I want to add to our data backup strategy is an air gapped backup. Yeah. One that literally, or maybe like, like oh this would be kind of cool like because we wouldn't try to do the vault the vault doesn't have any backup i don't care about that but the real server it would be kind of cool to have like three machines that are like physically air-gapped or like like you uh so you man how would you do this either physically air-gapped like with a robot freaking arm that like pulls the Ethernet cable out,
Starting point is 00:53:27 or like, you know, you go into the firmware of your Switch and you actually disable the ports. So each of them is like physically air-gapped for two out of three days. So you actually roll to one. Oh, funky. Then it goes air-gapped. Then you go to the next. Wow. Then it goes air-gapped. Then you go to the funky. Then it goes air-gapped. Then you go to the next.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Wow. Then it goes air-gapped. Then you go to the next. Then it goes air-gapped. And this one comes back on. So that if you got hit by a ransomware attack or something like that... You'd lose at max a day. You'd lose at max a day worth of data.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And you'd have a full air-gapped backup. Because they can encrypt your whole network. That wouldn't defeat a super targeted attack but that would defeat most things yeah yeah because super targeted would just wait until they were loaded on each server man yeah amazon glacierax. Yeah, that would be an option. Keeter says, doing an air gap for a Fortune 250 company right now. The air gap is done through a firewall randomly automating connectivity.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Oh, that's kind of interesting. Yeah. Again, though, that doesn't... There are ransomwares that will look for revolving backup schedules. Yeah, amazing. I love i love it yeah it's not going to stop everything nothing has ever air gaps ducksnip proved that says cold do yep okay yep that's fair yeah if you want to if you want an air gap create a gap of air that's that's
Starting point is 00:54:58 the best solution don't plug it in ever there you go solution solved oh man okay i want a really big usb drive and i will physically stand there and copy it at random intervals oh no that still doesn't solve all the problems because if you're taking data from one machine to that air gapped machine uh oh it could be a timed it could be timed so they technically sync up like it's really rough yeah that's crazy it's crazy town crazy town someone asked how
Starting point is 00:55:34 I activate floatplane in floatplane chat are you gonna tell them should we say you should say it's an April Fool's joke guys if I remember it's pretty funny by the way it is pretty i think it's pretty good that's all props to jayden um i had i had no no uh i didn't come up with that that was a that was a creative day project it's very funny on every float plane video and what's
Starting point is 00:55:59 what's really hilarious is that this is actually a useful feature for a float plane as a service so people could have a watermark with their branding on the video uh but we used it as just like a silly joke we just put a watermark to activate the float plane it's not on the video it's down in the corner no oh never mind in the corner i misunderstood if i remember correctly if you click on it it like and goes away too which is fun okay um oh i thought it was on the videos no i'm done no i was wondering why i couldn't see it oh yeah i'm an idiot all right are we are we doing that though like a watermark thing feature i mean we could okay cool yeah i don't know and that is how new features are born i mean we're not going to do it for a while. The backlog is chungus right now.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, and there's going to be a lot of lab stuff for you guys to be distracted by. Right. It goes away if you mouse over it. Okay, there you go. All right, Conrad, we will acknowledge it. We will acknowledge it. R slash place.
Starting point is 00:57:04 There's a war. There's a war going on ladies and gentlemen it's lttstore.com versus lttstore.com um oh my god i guess that's all i really have to say about that How does this even work? I actually, I was not familiar with this Until our social media coordinator Told me about it Not sure, I heard about it back in the day And I was like, that's weird
Starting point is 00:57:36 And then I ignored it, and now it's back And it's still weird It's cool, I mean, do whatever Yep, alright There's like an NHS flag It's still weird. It's cool. I mean, do whatever. Yep. All right. Yeah. There's like an NHS flag. Is that National Health Service? Yeah, there's a whole lot of a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:57:53 There's the 90s S. Sub forums just, you know, they get in here. They decorate their shiz. Yeah, there's definitely a Pepe or Five. know you know you know internet you you're internet and so if you have any idea what the crap this is or how to participate you know there it is right under gnu slash linux okay i'm actually it's by the way gnu slash lin, okay? I'm actually... By the way, GNU slash Linux, okay? All right. We should probably talk sponsors.
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Starting point is 01:00:38 there's some there's some random little things uh this ncx email thing ncix email thing i i am i have it highlighted if you scroll down a bunch there's two things yes i found it remember last wan show i was saying somebody contacted me somewhere okay and showed me the customer support email that i sent to them i found it uh it was on linkedin okay somebody actually went and found me on linkedin to send this to me uh am i am i logged into linkedin on you know what i'll just use i'll just use this i'll use this screenshot that riley apparently uploaded to imgur for me uh what is the easiest oh hey hey there you go uh so this is from uh matt who says hi there i'm buying most of a new pc from you guys i'm using some of my old system to make a new one
Starting point is 01:01:33 i have a few questions firstly would you and then it's truncated here's my email back hi matt i'll try to answer all your questions in order this is a very linus reply you can actually see one just add this item to your card if you want us to assemble the system and warrant the parts and labor for one year two yes we will send all original packaging and documentation three it adds approximately one week to your order to have us assemble the system you know why i was so good at this job i type really fast man it drives me crazy when i watch people who don't type like 100 plus words a minute because i'm, how do you even function? I would not be able to get through my day. If I like, even on mobile, I did a typing test recently.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I'm like 70 words a minute on mobile with my current SwiftKey correction. Like, I think that's pretty fast for mobile. I don't know. I've always- 70 or 80, I can't remember. It's like pretty fast. And then on like a good keyboard that I'm comfortable with,
Starting point is 01:02:26 115, 120. And I can't live with less. I've been considering moving away from tall keycaps. I love the 915. I know. It's like, I'm really fast on it. I hate not having a number pad, actually. I want to get a separate number pad. I like external number pads,
Starting point is 01:02:41 and I've known for years that I'm like, quite noticeably faster on low profile key caps. And I just, it's just, it's not, it's not like the thing, right?
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Starting point is 01:04:03 one included with your video card. Seven, both PCIcie slots run at 8x in a dual vga configuration this has zero impact on performance lots of data about this on the web don't worry about it eight your caviars will run just fine nine yeah the stock fan is fine for stock speeds other general feedback make sure you get a sound card it makes a huge difference even with the lowest end sound card on the lowest end speakers and headphones. That's old advice. That is no longer true, but back then it was. That was a big thing back then. Two, that PSU is
Starting point is 01:04:31 kind of loud. I'd look at the Corsair 620 watt or the Silverstone Strider series. And finally, see if you can find the extra money for an NVIDIA 8800 GTS 320 megabyte. It's a significantly better card. Enjoy your new system. Smiley face. Mine is Sebastian. NCIX.comix.com great technology selection and service that's pretty cool apparently um matt did take my advice and got the 8800 gts and was very happy he did so that was that was my job i was the pc advisor pc at ncix.com went to me oh so funny and then it was ivan
Starting point is 01:05:07 ivan was the pc advisor after me yeah remember sound card says just sari yeah it was such a big thing right around that time frame too yeah usb external amp dacs are definitely a low way to go now but back then a sound card was a big improvement and usb amp dat combos really had not taken off the way that they have now all right i got logged out of the dock because thanks you know what let's take this opportunity to do some merch messages okay sure i'm trying to find... We are still taking applications for the back-end and front-end position. It was asked before the show
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Starting point is 01:06:07 For sure. First one here is from Jamie. Hi, I love your content. Thanks to you. I'm a CS engineer and now currently doing a PhD in computer architecture. Any predictions about the future of CPUs? 100 plus cores, accelerators, better IPC or EPC, etc. Good gravy.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I mean, the biggest prediction, the most confident prediction that I can make about CPUs is that we are, I mean, it's funny how history repeats itself. In the early days of computing, okay, we didn't have one standard ISA that everyone used.
Starting point is 01:06:39 x86 was not king yet. Yeah. And then over time, the competitors, one by by one got picked off until it was mostly pretty much x86 was the only show in town there were exceptions i mean apple had desktop computers that were power uh that were power like as recently as what the early 2000s i think was when when power got got kicked to the curb right but by and large it all came down to x86 well that's changing now yeah arm gonna be weird arm has experienced a renaissance arm is no longer just for smart watches and then up up and coming
Starting point is 01:07:21 is risk 5 x86 ain't gonna go gentle into that good night, though. It's a really incredible, exciting time. And I think what we're going to see is we're going to see more diversity. We're going to see more emulation. I think it's also going to come back down after that, because it's pretty annoying to have all these different platforms. But I think we need to diversify to modernize. And then, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Exactly. That would be the most confident prediction that i can make about the cpu space over the next five to ten years yeah hit me again stefan asked a question which i'm going to modify a little bit what's your favorite retro tech outside of gaming outside of game oh crap yeah so they we got asked this last week and I was wondering why that made it into the curated questions outside of gaming, man. Well, I loved my Canon PowerShot A20.
Starting point is 01:08:15 This is, so the first digital camera I got was actually a gift. And I was like, gee, thanks. Because it was basically like a, like a 240 by 320 toy. And it was way overpriced.
Starting point is 01:08:30 It was like $200. I was like, oh, please tell me you kept the receipt because spending like another $200, I could have a real actual digital camera. And they did keep the receipt. And this is what I bought. Look at this. Don't you love sites
Starting point is 01:08:45 that have actually been around for 20 years and still have full reviews up of stuff that has not been a thing for 20 years meet the powershot a20 i got it after the a30 and 40 like the couple of successors had come out so i got it on a a deal. It was like three or 400 Canadian dollars. Okay. It was 2.1 megapixel, which at the time guys, you got to remember was the difference between a toy and a picture. You could actually print it four by six and it wouldn't look like hot garbage. It had three times optical zoom to compact flash. I had me some, some 64 megabyte compact flash cards. I eat compact flash type one.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Uh, I had, uh, uh, what, what was a zoom browser software? Okay. So I could,
Starting point is 01:09:39 I could see all of my, I could see all my, uh, my, my pictures in this cool zoom view, like zoom in and out view. I actually have never seen anything quite like it again. Here we got some, we got a look at how well it maintains shadow detail. Okay. Like that is a usable digital picture. And at the time that was pretty rare. Most people did not, smartphones were not a thing. Camera phones weren't a thing yet.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Most people did not have a digital camera and it was really cool being able to post pictures online that was that was unusual it was actually really common back then to scan your developed film pictures like that was an equally valid approach at that time man i can't remember i'm trying to think double a batteries yeah yeah i never had a camera i never had an ipod i didn't have a lot of if it wasn't for gaming i didn't have a lot of stuff tech yeah and like okay conrad every single time this question comes up conrad's like bicycle i think they mean electronics yeah conrad okay but like walkman or discman not of my own yeah okay i was pretty lucky to get a discman toward the
Starting point is 01:10:54 tail end of when those were cool yeah like when mini disc was already kind of a thing i finally got a portable cd player yeah if we have to make it electronics which is i think the the spirit of the question um i think i'd go back i don't remember what model it was but i had this slider phone in like 2008 okay and i actually i loved it it was great it was very cool like you know to have games on it i don't really think if it did it had like snake and i didn't play it I didn't game on it 100% I played a lot of snake but carry on yeah I didn't game on my phone um your electric bike is not retro tech Conrad um what was I gonna say the uh I I always missed like you know when you'd
Starting point is 01:11:39 hang up with an old school phone and you actually clicked it down. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of satisfying. And sometimes you slammed it down. Yeah. If you're mad. With those slider phones, you could... Oh, yeah, okay. Even flip phones, there's a bit of a slap to it. With modern phones, it's like... Boop.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Well, you know Austin's super into the Z Flip, right? Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he loves it. I can't get on board with it. I feel like you don't flip that the same way because you're scared, though. What, that big screen?
Starting point is 01:12:08 I don't know. I have a feeling Austin wouldn't be too put out if he needed to replace his phone. But I don't want to put words in his mouth. All right, give us one more, Jake Belovance. From AJ, how do you decide who hosts videos? Oh, that's a wonderful question. Because everyone here is on the same team.
Starting point is 01:12:29 And at the end of the day, we're trying to optimize everything that we do. We want a good return for our staff, which means we need to make money. We want a good return for our sponsors, because if they don't make money, then they won't give us money. And we need a good return for our sponsors, because if they don't make money, then they won't give us money. And we need a good return for our viewers. And when I use the word return, I mean like a return on investment. So every time investment that we make is to get a return, usually in all three of those areas. That's why Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade, I i think is actually my biggest brain idea
Starting point is 01:13:05 in the entire time that i've been running this company because it's uh it's a win for the viewer they love it it's a win for the company because we make money it's a win for the sponsor because they love it it's just like yeah, yeah, Intel. Thanks, Intel. You get to reign your products. This is awesome. People enjoy it. It's very positive sentiment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:31 And it's a win for, who was the last one? We've got the- The person receiving the upgrade. Yeah, and it's a win for our staff. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. It's like four times win.
Starting point is 01:13:41 They're fun to watch too. I know, I love them. Yeah. They're really fun to shoot. They're a blast to shoot. And they actually include a decent amount of technical information and stuff. But I find like friends and family
Starting point is 01:13:53 that are not technical will comment about those. It's the same type of thing with like Scrapyard Wars where friends and family that weren't technical would be like, yeah, I like Scrapyard Wars. They'll be like, yeah, I like the extreme upgrades. It's like, okay, cool. Zetharion asks, how does Intel measure that the upgrade videos are the reason for a purchase um there's different look up the sales funnel okay so your marketing might target different
Starting point is 01:14:14 layers of the funnel intel does stuff with us that is very targeted at delivering actual sales and they do stuff with us that is more about just awareness sentiment yeah increases yeah exactly exactly about or about engaging with the community or in some cases this is the same thing sorry to cut you off this is this is the same thing back in the day where i would complain so much when when conventions were like a thing still um about them taking their booths out of conventions it's like yeah i understand it's's not a good form of measurable ROI, but also it's pretty important for you to be there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:51 And so this is, and one thing that's really cool is that, you know, if I was Intel, I think one of the biggest values that I would see in it is all the different ways that their tech gets used. I bet there are executives at Intel that are like, oh, that's interesting. I guarantee you they are. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Based on some information that we've had in the past. And that's really cool. So everybody is winning. That's why I think it's just like one of the most amazing ideas. A lot of the time, the ideas that are come up with here are not mine anymore, right? We've got a big team. We've got a lot of the time, the ideas that are come up with here are not mine anymore, right? We've got a big team. We've got a lot of smart people. We have over a hundred years of YouTuber experience under this roof. How many people could say that? It's crazy. It's crazy, right?
Starting point is 01:15:36 And so, okay, how do we choose who hosts? Well, we're all on the same team here we're all out to maximize return so we know that right now for some of our channels in particular the host that is going to perform the best in general is going to be me still i mean it's that i'm the one you guys are most used to for better or for worse for some topics there could be actually an advantage to having someone else do it you know i love it when anthony hosts a linux thing but we had him co-host a linux video with james a couple of years ago because we felt he needed a foil who didn't know much about linux because otherwise anthony anthony can kind of get very technical sometimes we have to rein him in a little bit right uh love you, Anthony.
Starting point is 01:16:25 So a lot of the time we're, we're trying to figure out how we get the best return. Sometimes it just comes down to scheduling. Someone else will host because I'm busy or sometimes it's about development. Sometimes we'll have, uh, there's one of the writers in particular that James and I are, are really wanting to get more comfortable hosting things on their own. And, you know, one of the things that I'll go out of my way to do is if I find that person hanging back when they're kind of on set with me and they're mic'd up, I'll kind of make sure they're coming into the frame and I'll interact with them more so that they get a little bit more comfortable, you know, hosting bits and pieces,
Starting point is 01:17:05 and you guys get more used to them. And then over time, maybe my involvement is less and less, maybe it gets to the point where we're 80% done the video. And I go, you know what, I got a meeting, you close this one out. And we kind of do it that way. You know, there's always it's also I don't know how much this gets factored in, but there's an ownership to it. If you if you write this video, seeing it through to the end is satisfying. Absolutely. Might make you care more about future videos, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Absolutely. NZLION says, Alex was really awkward at first, but I really enjoy his enthusiasm on the videos he fronts now. Exactly. Here's the thing, guys. What we do is not that easy.
Starting point is 01:17:43 If you think it's easy, try and do it it's it's not and even with what i consider to be really excellent internal resources uh you know that people can reach out to for help i wish we spent more time on training to be honest with you you know i we want everyone to be their best um even with that it's it's hard to do i mean luke can speak to that your early hosting stuff was awkward mine was awkward yeah i didn't i didn't really intend to be a host it takes time i was not yeah i was not ready for for that and it was it took quite a while to kind of develop my my voice and hosting style and whatnot and a big part of it too is that you know what i'm not a perfect host i kind of yell all the time because i'm you know sometimes i'm just really enthusiastic or i'm just trying to you know project energy and i end up just yelling all the time right but i feel like when you guys
Starting point is 01:18:39 build that relationship or that familiar that familiarity us, you're willing to overlook a lot of those things in a big way. And in a big way, that's what's happening with all of us. And that's why I see the introduction of a new host as something that really just has to take place over an extended period of time. So there's some strategy to it. There's some just logistical elements to it. There's, um, there's, you know, sometimes there's people's own motivation,
Starting point is 01:19:11 right? There's a lot of reasons. Yeah. Okay. Why don't we do a big topic? We can talk about Sony. Oh, how long have we been streaming?
Starting point is 01:19:24 Um, what the gravy we've been live on the show for an hour and a freaking half uh okay e3 22 is 2022 is canceled big surprise says anthony young uh great samsung is the latest company to partner with i fix it to provide official repair tools and parts that's so so cool. Super cool. Self-repair program that will give Galaxy customers access to parts, tools, and guides to repair their own devices. That's awesome. The program, as with Microsoft Surface devices and Valve Steam Deck before it,
Starting point is 01:19:55 will be done in partnership with iFixit. And the first phones to have spare parts available are the S20, S21, and Tab S7 Plus. iFixit is actively writing fixed guides. And the parts list includes initially displays, back glass and charge ports, but no mention of batteries initially. Hmm, very interesting. Kyle Weans told The Verge that the display
Starting point is 01:20:16 assemblies would come with batteries pre-glued to them because without peel tabs, the only way to get them off normally is with a lot of isopropyl. Interesting. Maybe we will continue to see this improve, we hope. Don't have to be on the repairability side of things, I think, though. Apple rolls out an app store policy allowing reader apps to link to their website. This could be pretty good for Floatplane. Hopefully. We hope. We'll see if they just block it anyways, but yeah, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:20:43 And how to build a pc the last guide you'll ever need is delayed to next weekend but this time it's for real it's finished the last writer review is done it's only missing a final qc pass but it will not be possible to do before this weekend because it will take two hours because it's about that long oh oh wow you must hear this uh bell do how much of a producer are you actually do you have a way of us do you have a way of muting us i can yeah you can okay this is really funny um there's a song there's a song and i would like if you guys have like a spotify or youtube music or apple music subscription or whatever uh you guys can listen along with us but we're gonna mute it
Starting point is 01:21:33 i'm gonna press play we're all gonna press play at the same time okay it's by the mom boys m-o-m-e boys it's called Still Beat I will let you guys look that up You got 30 seconds to get your phone Or your web browser open or whatever We're gonna listen to this And Luke and I are gonna listen to it We're just gonna mute ourselves till we get to the moment
Starting point is 01:21:57 And it'll be very clear what the moment is And then Bell's gonna Kick our audio back on Thank you Jake I think that's been enough 30 seconds this is the moam boys it's called still beat m-o-m-e yep okay are you ready three two one let's go i don't want to copyright strike you you you Oh, so I read the lyric ahead of time, so I knew it was coming to you, but I was just like, look, I didn't know what's happening.
Starting point is 01:23:42 It was in the, it was in the doc. It was in the doc. Um, um, I didn't know it was happening It was in the doc What? I don't It bit in the song Which is kind of amazing Like it actually sort of worked Is that peak weird champ Or what?
Starting point is 01:24:02 Like what? Mine just said Peak Weird Champ. I think that's a new one. Oh, man. How does it feel to be featured in a rap song? I mean, I'm glad it wasn't a diss track, at least, you know? Yeah. So what is the lyric?
Starting point is 01:24:22 She gave me dome. That's a Linus Techus tech let me bring it up she gave me brain brain sorry sorry brain that's the linus tech tip i got the manners i can't double dip she gave me brain that's a Linus Tech tip. All right. So that's the thing that happened today. Someone alerted me to this two days ago, and I was saving it so that I could show you on the land show. Yeah, I didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 01:25:02 So I clicked on the Twitter link that's in the doc, and then the lyrics just right there. So this isn't even the first one because you're also, there's a Kanye cover where someone used an AI of your voice to cover a Kanye West song. Okay, that's a cover though. This is an actual song by, as far as I can tell,
Starting point is 01:25:20 an actual artist that has actually published like multiple albums and stuff like i was what doesn't this song actually have like yeah it has a million views wow uh apparently it's two years old yeah like this is not new either i had no how did nobody send this to me until now? I'm pretty surprised, yeah. Unbelievable. All right. It's time to acknowledge the April Fool's video. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:58 The biggest question that I think everyone has been asking, and first of all... Why there wasn't a cheese sponsor. First of all... That's one question. Let me tell you guys, thank you very much for a supporting us and be sharing our deranged sense of humor yeah we did need a lot of support in order to launch that coin we thought it was very funny but like with any like kind of you know april fool's
Starting point is 01:26:20 hard to tell gag video or whatever right yeah you never know if you've kind of gone too far off the rails especially now that youtube doesn't show dislikes that video looks legit af because it has 93,000 likes people can't see that it also has 9,000 dislikes. I can see that. So I wanted to thank you guys for your support. Sharing our sense of humor and watching the video and enjoying it. And then I also want to thank you for your support because
Starting point is 01:26:55 the answer is yes. Every sponsor actually paid. That's a very valuable April Fool's joke. I think that might have been the most profitable video that we have ever uploaded which is hilarious because it was just it was one of those ideas we have a doc of april fool's ideas it is the holiday that as a company i think we take most seriously from an external point of view.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Like we have a Christmas party every year and stuff like that. But like we have not missed April Fools for eight years. Yeah. Eight years. And some of the early ones were pretty low effort. But I think the last five or six have been freaking hilarious. We have so much fun making them.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Riley is an evil genius. He was the writer for that james worked with him on it as well i made some tweaks but you got to give riley especially riley and james just so much credit for it so funny um the number of people that are like you know i watched this like first thing when i woke up like at and by the, it wasn't until the cheese that it finally like glued in that this was not just, there's people that didn't get it as far as I can tell that are legit mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Think we, you know, it happens every time. Like I, I, I've told a few people, but I was talking internally about, uh,
Starting point is 01:28:20 the two that, that my team did because we did, we did one on, uh, line ofrectives.com, which is the forum, changed it to Comic Sans, and we did the one on Flowplane that we talked about earlier,
Starting point is 01:28:30 where it says your Flowplane is not activated, it's supposed to look like the Windows logo. And I told everybody on the team, there is going to be bug reports about this. That's completely fine, we can move forward, but customer support needs to know. We gotta give some heads up to whoever's gonna be involved with answering that stuff and like within minutes of the comic sands flipping on there was like a full properly written up bug report with like browser version
Starting point is 01:28:56 and everything and it's like yeah which i yeah that's great that's i mean it was it was a very well written bug report if there was an actual problem. Yeah, thank you. But yeah, sometimes people just forget it's April Fool's and then they get really confused. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. There is one exception. Zach, JerryRigEverything, did not pay for the knife feature. We just thought it was hilarious
Starting point is 01:29:21 because we did a short unboxing his, his like box opener and it's got like 3 million views. It's one of the highest viewed shorts we've ever done as a company. And it's just me opening a knife and his sales of his sales of, of his box opener knife thing went like, with that video, because, you know, obviously he's talking to a completely different audience right like we're talking to our audience so compared to you can only mention your own stuff
Starting point is 01:29:53 to your own audience so many times before it becomes a little less effective right so hitting a completely new audience and on a video that got three million views it was about nothing other than the knife right it's not even a mention embedded in something so i just thought that was so funny and i just i loved it so they're like yeah let's freaking sponsored by jerry ring everything here we go boys oh i love it oh i love it ah anyway i did notice that not even in the sponsor shill video did Floatplane get a shout out. Sponsor shill video? Yeah. April Fool's.
Starting point is 01:30:33 There's no Floatplane shout out. There's an LTT store one at the end. All right. I'm sorry. We did a really good shout out for you guys in Million Dollar Unboxing Part 3. Oh, sweet. Okay. Yeah, and...
Starting point is 01:30:42 Should I tell them? Not yet. Let me make sure it's actually going to work. I'm going I tell them? Not yet. Let me make sure it's actually going to work. I'm going to tell them. You'll make it work. What? I haven't even been able to talk to the guy that needs to do the stuff. I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:30:52 But you'll make it work. What if he can't do it? And he still has to finish the other thing that he's still working on. You'll make it work eventually. He's sick right now. Okay. Yeah, I won't say when. How about that?
Starting point is 01:30:58 Compromise? What if the screwdriver's out before it works? That won't happen. Because you'll make it work before then oh boy okay well are you gonna say why because we were gonna wait until we could say why so because there's like a reason why i will say i will say what we are Just say next week. Okay. I am considering opening up pre-orders for the screwdriver to floatplane peeps, who I think will be a little more understanding
Starting point is 01:31:36 if it does get delayed. It also depends on whether next week, I should hear back from engineering about whether our last issue with the ratchet is fully resolved. So, okay, next week might be better timing. People seem excited. Oh, this is also floatplane. But I might be desperate. Floatplane chat seems excited. but I might be desperate. Full-page chat seems exciting.
Starting point is 01:32:02 I might be desperate, and I have some reasons that hopefully by next week I will also be able to share with you about why I kind of need the cash right now. I mean, one of them is that that head of labs is coming and not cheap. There's a lot of reasons though. And there's one big one in particular
Starting point is 01:32:27 that could mean that I will just definitely need some cash before I am ready to ship. People are like, a pre-order doesn't mean we get it any earlier. Yeah, that's true. So that's one of the reasons that we're locking it to just Flowplane because I feel like with you guys i can make a dedicated video that's like hey here's what's going on you really need to watch this i can trust you guys to actually watch it
Starting point is 01:32:55 and listen thoroughly and nicely educate each other if someone didn't get the memo whereas if we just open it up broadly i feel like we could create a bunch of customer support issues and stuff we're also trying to figure out how to like make it so that if you do buy the screwdriver you get like a month or two free on flow plane or something yeah some kind of benefit but yeah there's some technical hurdles there and at least one of the people that would need to work on it is currently slammed working on other stuff and is also sick right now so he's actually not working on anything so yeah it's not gonna happen right away these guys are all like backpack as well backpack as well here's the problem with the backpack we have almost as many registrations for
Starting point is 01:33:39 notifications as our entire production not the first wave not the first and second wave all three delivery waves i am deeply worried about backpack stock and the reality of it is we are not going to allow people to jump the queue not even float plane so people who have signed up for notifications i'm less worried about it with screwdriver though in fairness i don't know if you know these numbers um i heard them a bit ago but i haven't heard updates from them interest in them has been extremely high and nick sends me updates every few days because he's just like freaking what uh the last update he sent me is oh oh, where is it? Come on, Nick Light. We were chatting so much last night that it's a bit of a problem.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Yeah, here we go. So we're sitting at over 20,000 for backpack, like somewhere between 20 and 25,000. We have 30,000 backpacks coming, so that's a problem. And for screwdriver, we're sitting between 35 000 and 40 000 the only reason i'm not concerned about screwdriver is that we have a lot more inventory and our manufacturing capacity is higher right so if we have to ramp we can ramp it'll take time but we can ramp so i i don't want to let anyone jump the queue the best thing to do for the backpack is get on that notification list if you haven't already, but for screwdriver,
Starting point is 01:35:08 I think we could open it up for float plane to pre-order. That would help us loosen our cash flow a little bit, and then we can go from there. Yeah. First messages and head on out? Oh, yeah, yeah, we should. Yeah, I guess you need to go home at some point or something. I point i actually do usually i don't have anything going on on fridays but i actually do today uh the answer anonymous the backpack fits perfectly under an airplane seat
Starting point is 01:35:35 yes i have stowed it under a standard economy seat anonymous asks i've seen you wearing a scan watch in the latest ltd short i switched one from my my Samsung watch and the month long battery has been life changing. We'd love to hear your opinion on it so far. I haven't even set. Oh, I actually have my Galaxy watch on this morning because I really wanted to know what time it is. But then I forgot to turn it on because sometimes the battery dies before the end of the day. I only even use it as a watch.
Starting point is 01:35:56 So like it's pretty stupid, which is why I thought maybe I'll switch to the scan watch. But I haven't even set the time on it yet, which is why I put this on this morning. But then I apparently didn't check the time anyway. So that's where I'm at on that. Kirsten or Kirsten, excuse me. I'm trying to create a new machine that doubles both as a NAS and as a Windows PC as a media machine. Any recommendations on software? Is Unraid still the best choice for this? Unraid is definitely still the easiest choice for that.
Starting point is 01:36:18 That's probably the route that I would go for that. Bear in mind that your hardware configuration is going to matter a lot. for that uh bear in mind that your hardware configuration is going to matter a lot like getting a motherboard that properly supports uh pcie pass through and all of that is really important joshua says what is that one game that you've spent an obnoxious amount of time in i mean luke luke found one of mine when he came over for gaming last weekend. I got owned. What was it? NHL 96.
Starting point is 01:36:49 NHL PA 93. PA 93. I spent like hundreds of hours on that as a kid. And it turns out the muscle memory is still there, baby. I destroyed him playing as the Hartford Whalers against like all stars East. The boys,
Starting point is 01:37:03 the boys, a gamer, man. But okay. to be clear that was still that was with me playing as uh toronto which was also like a two rated team uh or the senators or something which were even worse they're rated one that was the last game where the ratings for the players were absolutely brutal there's a player who's rated a one out of a hundred and they got a lot more like nice about
Starting point is 01:37:26 it later so things ended up being kind of actually less realistic yeah but that particular player was not realistic he's so slow he like barely moves it's hilarious anyway um so that was me playing as i think ottawa against all stars east when he said he thought he could beat me the other way around as well and i scored like five goals in the first period or something like that. He's like, okay, you were right. So he's not actually better than me at the game, but he's better than you at the game. Yeah. Because I beat Luke every time.
Starting point is 01:37:53 It was kind of brutal. If you look at like Steam stats, mine would be Slay the Spire. I don't think that's actually true though. It's mine too. Yeah. I'll have... Sl play the spire will have a clock in the corner that'll show you how long it takes you to do a game if i actually sit there and play it through i can fly through them because i've played it a lot but i've completed games that
Starting point is 01:38:15 have my like game time it's like many days because it's just like minimized in the background doesn't take like any system resources the sound is muted anyways right so it just there's so much time but it's so incredibly unrealistic i don't know like i i went on a trip once and i leave my computer on because i need to be able to remote into it sometimes and stuff and i came back from the trip and realized that slave aspire was left running the whole time so i had one game that took me like a week and a half to beat my stats are totally messed up from benchmarking that makes sense like according to steam i've spent like hundreds of hours in like crisis or something like probably a lot in like far cry 3 and stuff like stuff like that exactly yeah
Starting point is 01:38:55 wait holy crap we didn't announce the new merch oh yeah elemental is back ladies and gentlemen is there is there any like messaging for it or anything uh there is there's a discount code oh well look at that okay hold on i'm gonna change my shirt i'm gonna change my shirt uh i'm gonna set screen i'm gonna set screen cap holy crap we didn't even i also have the variants here we didn't even pimp the the new merch okay uh here you go now there's never been pink before yeah there's two new colors that have never before been seen there's pink yellow purple and white that's right ladies and gentlemen we have so many different
Starting point is 01:39:40 colors so much room for color activities and if you want them all you can get four for 50 bucks with the code elemental four no spacing and the four is the digit not f-o-u-r it's just the number four you can get them all or i think you could just get four of the same color if that's what you really wanted to do but yeah i'm back and i um i actually i had someone on the pre-show stream notice that you were wearing an elemental and they were like um isn't that that shirt that you guys said was a huge failure and like didn't sell and why why are you wearing it and the answer is because people absolutely love Elemental when it's four for 50.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Because $13 each for the same quality tees as all of our other shirts, just with like the Elemental design is a great freaking deal. So every time we run the Elemental promo, people love it. So I actually am super into it because we don't lose money. We just don't make money at that price. So you only live once, right, ladies and gentlemen?
Starting point is 01:40:56 Each time that we've done it, this is the third wave now, we've kept the best-selling colors of the previous wave and introduced two new ones, two new designs. So Lloyd did up the two new ones. Guys, go check them out. We should have lots of stock because we're ready for you guys to absolutely crush the site on this one.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Elemental Shirts, they're back. Johnny Iron asks, are the Elemental Shirts printed on the LTT blanks or still the AA shirts? The answer is American Apparel. So LTT blanks or still the AA shirts? The answer is American Apparel. So LTT blanks in black are coming, but we did a pretty conservative first order on them because you never know, right? Even if you get really great samples, maybe they're golden samples.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Maybe the production quality is not great. So we were pretty conservative. Now that we've seen them and we've seen the community's reaction they're coming they're absolutely coming big time but they're not here yet so these are american apparel yeah cool more merch messages uh yeah yeah for sure oh we should have bell read them right right so our producer's actually participating in the show bell hit me hello i'm back good Good. Would you ever consider using a game engine like Unity or Unreal as a part of your benchmarking?
Starting point is 01:42:09 I'm an indie dev and thought it might be useful. That's from Noah. We would, but the issue that we have around that is that it's a very niche use case, and until recently, we didn't have anyone with any experience in that field, so that's been an obstacle mason asks who's the most
Starting point is 01:42:28 talented gamer you've ever gamed with but that's interesting because we've done videos with a lot of twitch streamers yeah i mean cory cory and shroud like yeah luke wasn't there for that No So okay how about you That nose dude Is definitely up there He's a Rocket League Ex Rocket League pro I don't think he's playing anymore Skara Yeah
Starting point is 01:42:56 I never actually gamed with Ann Munition But I did do a video with her Technically did I even really game With cory i guess not so shroud then you gamed with him we did we did a challenge head to head okay where we tried to snipe each other across the map i count that yeah that counts yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be shroud then james asks do you think valve might incentivize developers to make more games proton compatible if they offered a less uh percentage cut of the game and steam they support it for an x amount of time after launch i think valve could do that i think valve will not do that
Starting point is 01:43:35 yeah they're not going to kill that golden goose until they are legislatively forced to arman asks about the ipad versus tab s8 but to be more general. Armin asks about the iPad versus Tab S8, but to be more general, how do you feel about the current Android versus iPad tablet space? You know what? For me, tablets are just iPads at this point. I haven't given the latest Tab a fair shake though.
Starting point is 01:43:58 So I don't want to come out and say that necessarily, but that's where I've been at for a while. Iron Dog asks what about Fatality Wendell? I've met Jonathan Wendell but I have never gamed with him. I want to make my home smart
Starting point is 01:44:16 and I'm having trouble determining the correct ecosystem we use iOS phones but everything else is Windows. I also have plans to install cameras on a NAS. Do you have a recommended ecosystem? I know a lot of you don't like having to rely on a certain ecosystem, but do you have a preference if you did? I couldn't answer this question,
Starting point is 01:44:33 which is why I ultimately went Home Assistant so that I had something to bridge together disparate ecosystems. That's the only answer I was able to come up with. Sorry. Yeah, it seems like there's not really an easy one to choose nowadays uh i use google but i mean do you trust big tech probably not honestly don't do any home automation
Starting point is 01:44:53 my place is very small so i don't really see a need to dustin asks do you guys ever think about showing how to network boot systems from a single image like in all of your LAN center PCs. That's been on our videos to make list for like five or six years. We'll do it eventually. It's just, yeah, we really need to do it. We know. And final question here from Cody.
Starting point is 01:45:18 My professor finally played a video from TechQuickie in class discussing heat-assisted magnetic recording. Any other cool storage tech you can recommend looking up? Here's some money to make up for her skipping the sponsor read. That's awesome. Any other cool storage tech? Man,
Starting point is 01:45:35 that's a good question. I think there's stuff coming. Yeah, Hammer's kind of cutting edge for magnetic storage anyway. Yeah. And we got one more merch message from rachel dedicated sound cards gradually became less and less popular because the onboard audio is good enough for most things do you think something similar could happen to gpus in the future if apple has their way it will yeah i mean even their their studio mac uses mean, it's a big onboard GPU, but it's an onboard GPU.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I think that's the future Apple sees, whether that arrives for gaming in our lifetimes, harder to say. Yeah, the M1 is a great machine. I use it for editing LMG clips instead of my RTX 2080 Super because it is faster for my rendering uh and it's just just a laptop that's hilarious crazy oh man of course people are spamming merch messages now we waited to to promo the new stuff i know oh sorry guys zachary says i'm sending this late
Starting point is 01:46:41 so you'll probably not read it uh but will you consider not censoring swearing on floatplane I'll consider it but I don't think we're going to do it personally I just find bleeps more comical anyway so that's my personal preference and I am still the god king of Linus Media Group until such time as I am not there's also a lot of hosts when they are swearing they are swearing with the understanding that it is going to be bleeped yes so it's a little like there's some stuff that hosts wouldn't necessarily want to say if they thought it wasn't for sure i mean a lot of people's mothers watch our videos yeah that was riley's mom by the way in the april fools video i was trying to figure out because i was like that's not your mom that's not your aunt so who is this i was wondering if it was like an actual representative from that popcorn company yeah that's funny oh man merch messages guys they're coming in they're
Starting point is 01:47:33 coming in too hot and too heavy oh whatever happened to the gym bag fan idea we haven't done a gym bag we should absolutely do one one. I totally forgot about it, to be perfectly honest with you. Yeah, matter of time, matter of time. Okay, okay, we got to cut it off here because Luke has somewhere to go. Thank you guys very much for tuning into The WAN Show. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. We're going to have to push this ubiquity topic.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Remind us next week. We got to talk about ubiquity suing Brian Krebs It was a big topic for us this week But we didn't get to it We didn't talk about Sony taking on Game Pass even though that was one of our Highlighted topics maybe we'll talk about it next week It's just like actually
Starting point is 01:48:18 7.30 Yeah we need to go Bye Okay bye We need to go. Bye! Okay, bye! Elemental's going nuts. Elemental's going nuts. Let's see. Elemental went from zero to...
Starting point is 01:48:41 Let's see if it's already the top-selling item today. Oh, I'm curious. Oh! It's not even close! We sold more elementals than we've given away free sticker packs today. Which doesn't even make any sense.

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