The WAN Show - Even Intel is Impressed by AMD's Progress - WAN Show June 28, 2019

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Bam. Done. Woo! Welcome to the WAN Show, ladies and gentlemen! If you have any issues viewing the stream, go head over to twitch.tv slash linus tech. It seems to be working just fine on Twitch. We have done as much diagnosis as we can while the stream was offline, and as far as we can tell, we have no idea. Yeah, it started working on a test channel, and it looks like it's still a little borked right now.

Yeah, so that's pretty sweet. I don't know. Yeah, so there you go. What's the bug now? It's just doing the same thing, it just hitches every once in a while. Yeah, well, it was yellow for a while at first on the test stream as well. So we don't know.

It doesn't say anything, Jake. Hovering over it does nothing. It just says, okay, viewers may be experiencing minor issues. And then it'll probably turn green again. It was green while everyone was complaining last time. So we are going to start over. We've got a great show for you guys today. The big news, I mean... Johnny Ive.

Yeah. Johnny Ive is leaving Apple, but it's also not the end of the world because he is going to continue to be involved. Okay. Yeah. So, Apple might be okay, I guess. Yeah. Or, I mean, it depends on whether you think Apple's okay

now. So, for better or for worse... Okay. You know what? We'll talk about it more later. Intel's internal memo reveals that they are impressed by AMD's progress. Now, that is high praise indeed. That is. For it to be in an internal memo, that's pretty high praise. But again, like I said before we killed the stream, internal memos are basically just blog posts now.

Have you read the memo, though? No. It's pretty impressed. We'll talk about it more later. They must have also known this was going to hit media and going to hit AMD. Yeah, I guess. I don't understand what they could possibly... Okay, we'll talk about it more later.

Yep. This BladePort 2.0 spec announced, and it's amazing,'s amazing and probably I'm assuming still won't work at good distances And a laser can identify people based on heartbeat at over 600 feet away, which sounds totally not creepy at all Roll that intro. Let's roll that intro! Boom Those headphones, is that causing echo? I don't know, I don't know how to turn the volume down I don't know. That's pretty loud. I don't know how to turn the volume down.

I don't even know where they're plugged into. Where are they? Where are they? Oh, they're plugged in way back there? Alright, we got this. The show today is brought to you by Savage Jerky, Madrinas, and Squarespace. Oh, here comes a train. That's what we needed. That's what we needed. More issues today.

Yeah, perfect. It's Friday, ladies and gentlemen. I will say in the amazing video that I don't know if it's on YouTube or not yet, but the High Frustrate Gaming video. Yes, that actually hit YouTube yesterday, YouTube yesterday. The train segment was hilarious. That actually happens far more often around here than you guys would probably think. I mean, it's one of those challenging things where the only place that you can find affordable commercial real estate, go figure, happens to be next to the train tracks because nobody wants to live there

because nobody wants trains rolling by all times of the night and day when they're trying to sleep or go about their daily lives yeah it's just something that we have to deal with because um i don't even i don't even know if there is any industrial not near train tracks not near either train tracks or like a super highway super highway heavy trucking road yeah something like that yeah so anywhere where you're where you're gonna have a ton of noise pollution that's where you stick your commercial zoning at least here in the in the vancouver area so um the reason the reason that it was particularly bad in that video and that it interrupted us more than it normally would like sometimes we would just roll through it like

Right now the trains going you guys can't really hear it was because in order to shoot high refresh rate video We had to have the bay doors open to get as much natural sunlight in as we possibly could That's why it was a problem Interesting so every time you double your frame rate, you lose an f-stop. Is that right, Brandon? Lose a stop? Yes. Yeah, okay. So when you go from 30 fps, which is what we normally shoot at, to 60, you lose a stop. When you go to 120, you lose another. You go to 240, you lose another. You go to 480, you lose another. Then you go again to 1000, you lose yet another one. So by the time you turn something up to a thousand frames per second if you were trying to use the same lights that we're using

Right now at 30 frames per second. You're basically looking at a dark frame. Yeah, like there's not much left Actually, could we could we compare that? Or could we yeah, yeah, like do we have enough apertures on this camera to... Just change the shutter speed. Just change the shutter speed. How do I do that? I don't know how to change the shutter speed. Can I just change the aperture?

Which one's aperture? This is great. Oh, hey, we got the readout on OBS, so everyone gets to see that. That's kind of cool. Nice. Okay, so we're here. Yep, this is 30 frames per second. So there's

a stop. So remember, this is going from 30 to 60. Okay, so now we're at 120. This is what it would look like at 240. That's what it would look like at 500 frames per second. And then this is what they were recording at.

So guys, to put that in the proper context. It looks so bright now. The on-screen display is... Oh, yeah, do you mind, Brandon? Thank you. So to put that in context, right now we're shooting with two six-foot softboxes in order to, well, look natural. So yeah, so you basically need direct sunlight now normally when you're shooting in direct sunlight you would actually apply what's called

a neutral density filter or nd filter directly to the front of the lens in order to block out a ton of the light but when it's high refresh rate you're dealing with you want as much light as you can possibly get even with as much natural light as we could get some of it was still pretty dark especially in the upcoming mouse latency testing video that we'll be releasing in the next little bit here um people are discussing aperture oh like aperture science wait didn't jake turn monitoring off those headphones are still clearly yeah They're loud hopefully just unplug them not a problem. Yeah, I could

Is it around the bat? Oh, sorry? I thought it was on the front. No. It's way around the back. Okay? Oh boy oh geez I'm just gonna like bury, bury them? Put them under your shirts. I'm just gonna put them over here. Okay. And then in here. Cool.

There, shut up. Okay. Sounds good. This is the problem I run into whenever I'm not the one who sets things up, because it's like, it's not complicated. It's just, you know, which, uh, which audio source is mapped to which output. But, like, if I didn't do it, I don't know exactly the way that someone else configured it. And there's also hardware ways to do that with our setup. It's like your dad setting up your home theater system in the 90s. Like, no one's allowed to touch it after it's done.

You know, Logitech Harmony Remote changed my life. Because it's, relatively speaking, once you get your IR blasters positioned, that's the main challenge, is getting your IR blasters in all the right places so that it actually consistently activates and deactivates things. Also, I had to contact Logitech support to change, I think it was either my TV or receiver. I had to get them to add the menu option for power on and power off instead of a toggle. No, it was my home theater PC. That's what it was. So the only option by default is power toggle. so the only option by default is power toggle and as if any if you've ever used a universal remote before you'll know why that's a freaking problem yeah because as soon as it desynchronizes

every time you try to turn the system on it turns it off yeah and you end up in this stupid flip flop and you have to get up off your butt which which is what you didn't want to do. Always horrible. Play video games or watch TV. You have to get up off your butt and go manually turn it on and off. And so get this. I complained about this. They went, oh, yeah, that's a known issue. We have to go into your Harmony account and add that option for you.

And I went, that's not a solution. So, yes, my home theater works perfectly. But can I recommend a Harmony remote to someone else who has a media PC as part of their TV setup? No, I can't because that is a phenomenally stupid solution to the problem. That should just be an option because for pretty much everything else in my setup, I could decide what the activity was. So for your activity, you can decide what the commands it sends are.

So my TV has power on or power off or toggle. I can decide. And that's when you launch. And when you end the activity, you can tell it which ones to do. But for whatever reason, PC didn't have that option, at least when I set mine up.

So as someone who never had a Harmony remote, why do you even have to tell it that it's a PC? Well, you have to tell it it's a PC because whenever it takes the IR input, which is watch PC is what I call mine. So watch PC. It then needs to blast out one after the other all the things that go with it.

So it has to say receiver fire up receiver change to this input uh re and then it has to go tv fire up tv make sure you're on this input then it goes pc wake from sleep so it has to know what that code is supposed to be. Yeah, okay. So, man, it made me so mad because I was, like, holding my old Microsoft Media Center remote, and I was like, okay, we have on and we have off. So clearly those codes exist because some devices don't have it. Yeah. And that's just a problem on the device level. Yeah.

But I was holding a remote, and I knew it worked. So basically, if you want to recommend this to anyone at the home theater PC, you have to say, buy it before you even leave the store? Or no, you'd have to set up an account. You'd have to get home, and part of the account creation process is calling them? You're just going to have to get... Now, in Logitech's defense, the Harmony support team was excellent. Okay. Cool.

But it still made me really mad that i had to talk to them to do something that i should be able to do within the menu talking to anybody makes me mad so like i totally hear you nerd life uh why don't we move into like the big news this week yeah um johnny ive leaving apple so for those not familiar he's's the bald guy with the British accent in the commercials. Yeah. The unapologetically plastic guy. Yeah. So he's their chief design, or was, chief design officer.

He's leaving the company. Apple announced it on Thursday, so that's yesterday. He's considered, and, you know, I guess it depends who you ask. I think by many people. I'm sure there's lots of people internally at Apple who are like, yeah, maybe it's time to move on. You know, it depends who you ask, I suppose, but he's considered one of the most important people at Apple responsible for the industrial design and the look and feel of all major

Apple products, including the iPod, iPhone, and the Mac, which really raises the question, what do all the other people there do? No, I'm serious. The design department do? No, I'm serious right now. In the design department, yeah. I'm actually serious right now. Because they have so many designers. Is it maybe like taking his ideas and actually creating them? Like, does he just draft ideas maybe?

And here's another question. Apple doesn't actually have that many products or okay another thing okay to be fair about with apple is they seem to over credit individuals really hardcore right so that's why like this individual person is responsible for everything that happens a lot with apple so maybe he's the chief design officer. So maybe he ran those things for all major products. But that's not the way that it gets communicated. I completely agree. But that has been a thing with Apple for a long time.

So either Apple basically runs on like eight people. Yeah. Or there's maybe something else going on. Because this has been true for like the history of Apple. So anyway. I'm sure people are going to be on me about that. Including iPod, iPhone, and Mac. So he's worked at Apple for more than 20 years

and he's going to start his own design business called Love From with capital L, capital F, which I'm sure is very important to him. Extremely. Apple will be his first client. So he says, while I will not be an employee, I will still be very involved. I hope for many, many years to come.

He doesn't have an immediate successor. So, yeah. There's a couple of Alan Dye and Evans Hankey will report to Jeff Williams, the Apple's chief operating officer, while I've reported directly to Tim Cook. There's a note in here that says I've was first noticed by returning

CEO Steve Jobs because of his colorful design concept of the iMac. So was he the like carry it by the handle, colorful transparent iMac guy? If I recall correctly, yes. That makes sense in terms of timeline. Gosh, I'm old okay no right

so anyway that's both a big deal and then also sort of a nothing burger just because um he's still gonna work with apple he's just hot take i don't think they've had very inspiring design for a while well okay so this is where i okay so this is where it gets kind of um so i say a lot that i feel like apple products are designed for people who don't have a lot to do um so if you look at okay hold on yeah quick pause sure when's that competition happening uh oh uh not for a few weeks i think okay yeah so what he's referring to is the editing showdown uh jonathan morrison from tld is going to be coming up here to compete in an editing showdown with our very own uh taryn van heemert that was just

obvious like you guys should have a like quick hot takes about the other platform thing before the competition like independently so taryn and jonathan will make their own comments but i am not there to editorialize i will be mostly hosting the showdown. Oh, cool. So that's my role. We also are working on a panel of celebrity judges. I'm not going to comment on their status yet because I don't want there to be any pressure on them or anything, but I have certainly reached out for the premier side of things.

We wanted a panel of four judges, two that are more steeped in the Final Cut ecosystem and two that are more Premiere folks. Okay. And so I have reached out to Iber from Hardware Canucks, as well as Nico from the Corridor Digital Crew. Oh, cool. And I have received receptive responses from both, but neither of them are confirmed. Okay.

So I would love to have them on our panel of celebrity judges but it's always complicated coordinating people with such busy schedules oh yeah here in the studio yeah creators are difficult to wrangle it really and i don't blame them at all i totally get it because my schedule is stupid yeah i literally have no idea when he's in the country or not okay so, so back to my point about Apple products seemingly being designed for people who don't have a lot to do. Have you ever used Apple's Calendar app? No. It's utterly worthless.

Genuinely. Like, you just... Google Calendar's great. You can't... Even Google Calendar... Okay, so, yeah, that's good. So even Google Calendar, compared to... There's a's good. So even Google Calendar compared to, there's a third-party app called Business Calendar

that's only available for Android. It's not available on iOS. And it is full beast mode. Like tiny text, you can configure it this way. You can have like tiny text. So you can actually read everything. And you can actually tell what the hell you're looking at. Meeting coordination in Google Calendar is fantastic, though.

Yes. And that's the main thing I like using it for. Apple's Calendar app, by comparison, simply has no way to configure it with the same degree of display density. Okay. So it seems to make the assumption that you either don't have a lot on your plate or you have all the time in the world to drill down and look at things. Oh, you mean like, okay. I thought you meant in terms of one, like you wanted to be able to read everything of one task. But you mean you can read your entire day by making it all really short text?

You can read the entire month. Oh, God. Like all the agenda items for that day from the month view on this business calendar app. And it's just, it's a whole other level. That's pretty cool. Like all the agenda items for that day from the month view on this business calendar app. And it's just, it's a whole other level. Like I was telling Yvonne because she had issues with, she had some issues with Android. Because let's face it, there are some issues with Android. She had some issues with Android.

And I said, look, why don't you try an iPhone for a bit? And she tried it. And she was like, this is completely unusable. Because there isn't a replacement. She tried every calendar app for iOS. It's also really annoying. I have to carry one now and it won't stop yelling at me about Apple pay. Yeah. Yeah.

I know. Right. And like everything else, it's like, Hey, you should use this feature. I'm going to pop up 10 million times. I don't want this to turn into a rant about iOS,

but if you don't have a SIM in it, there's no way to disable that. Hey, there's no SIM installed. I know you're an iPod right now. Okay, I don't care But it has butter deal with it cannot handle that it's like no I am iPhone. Yeah, I am a phone Where is your SIM card? I deserve a SIM card I was born with SIM card privilege So yeah. Oh, yeah yeah look at this asteroid week says um

or asteroid says week mode in business calendar is the best uh yeah yeah it pretty much is so so anyway so i i end up i end up with this sort of observation almost every time I go to use an Apple product because the amount of sort of manual drilling down of things just annoys me. And you know what? iPadOS looks like it's going to address a lot of my complaints about iOS on a large screen device. iPad has been very interesting lately. Apple seems determined to resurrect this sort of, I won't say failing,

but I will say stumbling business unit. They've had a really hard time convincing anyone who already has an iPad that they should get a new one. And that's been my, I still, the only tablet in my house is an iPad 2. Well, a lot of the things you're going to do with it doesn't really matter. You can still do it. It can be fine.

Just put the kids in front of it when I need a break. That's basically its only job. You entertain the young ones. And the thing, too, is that I don't even use it for that that often. But it's still perfect for that because it's an iPad. so you leave it for two weeks and the battery's still alive you can never do that with an Android tablet yeah and so the very occasional time that I use it it's ready to rock and I can go take a nap it's the nap machine the nap nap machine. This machine creates naps. The iNap. That would actually be an adorable commercial. They would never do that.

Apple's marketing collateral is all about what a creative, intellectual person their product turns you into. It's not about getting a rest. It would be cool if they just named it a million different things. And they could even go back to that, put the i there and then rotate the word. For this person, it's the iN eye nap and it creates naps for them for someone else it's like the eye create and they can throw that yeah crap in and then for someone else it's it's eye game whatever I feel like that could be actually kind of entertaining. They would never do it. No. They would never do it. Speaking of things I thought

they would never do Intel internal memo reveals they're impressed by AMD's progress. Yeah, this is kind of hilarious. This is wild. So I'm going to try and bring up the actual memo because it's freaking awesome. Okay, yeah, here it is on Tech Power Up. If you guys want to read the whole thing, make sure you head over there. But basically, here we go. We are now entering the latest chapter of the tech industry's single long-running business rivalry.

Intel and AMD have been competing for many of the same chip customers for more than 50 years. Oh, wait. No, this is... Dang it. This is Tech Power-Up's introduction. Where's Intel's thing? Following AMD's blah, blah. Oh, here it is.

Why AMD is now a formidable competitor was actually a subheading in the internal memo. That alone is huge. Right? Oh, man. So they basically go, yeah, they've had two years of greater than 20% annual revenue growth, thanks basically to Ryzen and Epic. And then they pretty much attribute it, not entirely, but a big part of it to the strategic refocus on premium high performance products now i do have to look at that and go i feel like it's a little bit oversimplified and or even misleading yeah i'm sure if amd could have built high performance products five years ago they would have they just had nothing yeah like they had straight up nothing. Kind of like Intel right now. I mean it's not like it's not like Zen doesn't scale down to low performance products. They can do a quad core

processor if they want. Yeah. I mean okay back to a particularly dark time in AMD's history. They could build a tricore processor if they really wanted to. Yeah just don't that was awkward they're not stuck making just that like it scales down just fine the issue was they just had nothing um anyway back to back to the art and back to the memo though so key amd competitive threats are from high-end products. I also think that's kind of another funny one because what do you mean by high-end products specifically? The key AMD threat is across your entire product stack, all the way from like $100 to $200 CPUs, which last I checked is pretty low-end,

all the way to many core data center products which yes is a high-end product um maybe what they're referring to here specifically was amd's focus on apus because that was the whoops amd's focus on apus because that was the only thing that they could build that had competitive performance and only because their onboard graphics were so much better than Intel's, not because the CPU cores were competitive. Maybe that's what they mean by this. But like, I think, again, that's a little misleading because almost everything Intel's built in the last few years on the consumer side is an APU by AMD's definition. Yeah.

The height of the APU war was kind of a pretty weird time. It was a very weird time because everyone wanted to, like, I think people wanted to support AMD, so everyone would flex the APU GPU performance. Yeah. And then no one would run it that way because it wasn't really good enough for almost anything. Yeah.

So a really awkward time. Hi, Ed, what can I do for you? Did you do the VOs? I didn't. How badly do you need them? No, we can I do for you? Did you do the VOs? I didn't. How badly do you need them? We can get that next week. We can get that next week? Cool. Yeah, first thing next week.

Cool. Thanks Ed! Thank you! Okay, so let's have a look at some of the other subheadings here. So, man, this is like a scary time to be Intel. Like, I can see why they're sending out this memo. It's like, look, guys, we have to acknowledge this stuff. AMD has recently been gaining some traction in winning public cloud offerings.

That's a pretty big deal. Yeah. AMD's upcoming next generation Zencore products, codename Roam for servers and Matisse for desktop, will intensify our desktop and especially server competition. Intensify the forward firepower! The latter is likely to be the most intense in about a decade, which is another way of saying AMD had nothing for 10 years.

Yeah. And it's true. Okay. I mean, they're even acknowledging the notebook and the notebooks and business PC competition. That's incredible. Now, this is, again, sort of misleading. By leveraging TSMC's 7 nanometer manufacturing,

AMD no longer manufactures its own chips. They've got to get that in there. AMD can drive higher core counts and higher performance. Now, they acknowledge it later on in the memo, but that's not really the main reason that AMD is able to drive higher core counts and higher performance. Yes, Global Foundries did stumble.

We know this. But AMD wasn't on TSMC's 7 nanometer node for Ryzen Gen 1, and Ryzen Gen 1 was a return to competition. Really it just has more to do with AMD's modular approach to their core design. That is a big part of the reason that AMD can drive higher core counts. And AMD's been driving higher core counts than Intel for a couple of years now. The big thing that's happening now is the IPC improvements with Zen 2 that are making these many core desktop processors now competitive,

even in single-threaded tasks, allegedly. This is all still based on AMD data and or leaks. What can I do for you? Oh, yes. Here's a prompter remote. Thank you, Dennis. So one thing that I think is kind of going on in parallel to this is Intel's community communication and marketing, whatever you want to call it. Not necessarily PR to the masses because it seemed to be pretty on top of, at the very least, communicating with enterprise-level stuff. But enterprise-level stuff, other than trust in terms of it will work, doesn't really care that much.

No, they'll use, because a lot of these, so the thing that you guys gotta understand is, for a consumer, they buy something with the expectation that it has already been validated for them if you're designing a supercomputer like if we were to go to the very very high end of the enterprise space if you're designing a supercomputer you are in some ways expecting the hardware to have problems and you are expecting that you are that you are engineering a solution around them as part of your design process that's the reason why you'll see the latest supercomputer spinning up

when there's literally a generation newer hardware available to consumers or to the smb market or whatever the case may be because that design design process happened, you know, 18 to 24 months ago. So, yes, they get early access to the hardware so that they can work on this design. But there's only like there's only so much you can do. Like the silicon's just not finished yet. Yeah. But I think I think I noticed something. So I went to a lot of conventions.

I would go to PAX's like crazy and all this kind of stuff. And Intel started doing something where they pulled lot of conventions. I would go to PAX's like crazy and all this kind of stuff. And Intel started doing something where they pulled out of conventions. Intel was in conventions for a very, very long time. They were huge at PAX up until like a couple years ago, I think. Yeah. And Intel was like at the start of PAX. And Intel was a big deal there. And they held a big deal position for a very long time.

And their booth kind of shrank. And eventually it became a little bit less experiential and check out our crazy products and it became look at our partners products and stuff like that but it was still there it was still really interesting it still brought actually a lot of people in compared to many booths on the floor that were hardware based they were very active I know like Corsair was really active and stuff too but they were very active and, and AMD didn't really exist. AMD was not, what are you doing? I'm spamming twitch.tv slash LinusTech in the chat

because people are complaining about the lag. We don't know what the issue is, but it's something to do with YouTube. But then again, it's happening on float plane too. So for whatever reason, our stream is perfect on Twitch. Just go over there. The actually most confusing part is that it is working on Twitch, but go over there. The actually most confusing part is that it is working on Twitch.

But that's cool. So here we go. But yeah, so right around when Intel, who had this like literally complete market share, although there's only two of them, for processors showing up at conventions, they disappear. AMD shows up. And AMD showed, that was literally the most perfect timing for AMD and the worst timing for Intel ever.

Because Intel loses this, like... And I know ROI on conventions is, like, ridiculous and terrible and hard to track, but... Don't talk too much about that, though. We have our own convention now. Yeah. But to tie into that convention, the sentiment you get from those people...

And these are influencers. ...is really strong. And then they're going to go talk to their friends and they're going to talk on forums. They're going to do everything else. So it spreads out like crazy. And when you can have that interaction as a hardware company in person, which you almost never have, it's super valuable. And that doesn't mean that Intel not showing up all of a sudden generates negative sentiment. Like it's not that simple, but Intel loses their opportunity to say, hey, we're good too, right around the time that AMD is coming in,

banging this, we're awesome right now, drum, we're super awesome, check it out. And like AMD shows up with crazy booths now that are really interesting. They're doing giveaways. They have like, their booths are banging and they show up out of nowhere. It's's just really and that seems to be happening not just at the convention level that's somewhere where it's extremely tangible you can see it happen intel disappeared

amd showed up and they completely took over the convention space i've been asked as a long time intel user by uh i forget whether it was over Twitter on our forum or something I but I've been asked would you consider an AMD chip for your next rig? I was like, yeah, of course Like the only reason that I'm not running AMD now is that it isn't the highest performance solution right now Because the thing is and I don't want like, like, this is not a flex thing. This is not, like, trying to rub it in or anything like that. But I am not budget constrained for my computer. So I've had a lot of people ask me over the last couple of years,

well, AMD is competitive. Why are you still running Intel? Because it's faster. It might not be the best option if you're building different price to your computers. Yeah, exactly. because it's faster. It might not be the best option if you're building different price for your computers. Exactly, so depending on what kind of a price point you're targeting, yeah, AMD might make a ton of sense and I've recommended AMD plenty,

but no, I haven't been using it because why would I? Well, that looks like it might change. So depending on how our evaluation of Ryzen 3rd Gen goes, yeah, it's very possible. Like people treat me like I've never had an AMD computer. You know what? Just for fun, I'm going to try and list out all the processors I've ever run. Oh, I can't remember this. Every time you do this, I'm like, I have no idea what I had.

It's going to be really hard. Okay, so the first CPU I ever owned was a Pentium 90. Like, this was my personal tower. I inherited it from my uncle. It was a Pentium 90 in, like, the early 2000s. So it was, like, pretty slow. Yeah. Okay, so then the first rig I ever built for myself.

Athlon XP 2500+. Heck yeah. Bought me that 2500+, baby. Then, I got a 2500+, mobile, because it overclocked a little better. Overclocked that thing to 3200+. But, guys, AMD fans, speaking from the heart,

from heart to heart here, okay? We were deluding ourselves if we thought that a 3200+, was actually equivalent to a 3.2GHahertz Northwood C, okay? That was not a thing that was real. 2% of the audience understands what's going on right now. Next CPU was, I believe it was a Clawhammer. I want to say it was a 3200 plus.

It was the one with less cache. Was it North something? okay so no no not get get go on get out of here no no okay so sledgehammer was fx only and then uh claw hammer was the single core whatever it was a socket 754 single core Athlon 64 It was a huge upgrade and the reason that I went to that was because at the time games were Predominant basically exclusively single threaded so hyper threading while it was nice for your overall system Responsiveness did not make a difference for games and games was 90 plus percent of what I did on my rig So I picked up an Athlon 64 single core

90 plus percent of what i did on my rig so i picked up an athlon 64 single core okay my next upgrade was to socket 939 and the reason that i had to go from 754 to 939 was super pissed off like that's another thing amd fans are so quick to point at intel for retiring their you know their motherboard chipsets so frequently and making you buy a new motherboard it's like don't don't imagine for a second that amd's hands are clean in all of this either. Socket 754 lasted for like 10 months or something stupid like that. I can't remember what it was. And 940 on the desktop was even worse.

So I went to socket 939 and picked myself up. This was the most expensive CPU I ever bought for myself. It was a 4400 plus. And the reason I went for that was because it was the first consumer dual core processor, not counting like, I don't even know, was Itanium multi-core? I don't know. It doesn't matter. The point was it was the first dual core processor that you could buy for the desktop. It was the full one meg cache. Was it one meg per core or one meg? Can't remember. Compared to the 4200 plus, which had less cache.

So that meant that with overclocking, you could get full 4800 plus performance, which was, other than the FX line, which was basically dumb, because it was just an overclocked, the other thing. So other than the FX line, it was the fastest consumer chip you could get. So from my 4800 plus, what did I go to? I got an Optron 165. Are you noticing a pattern here? Noticing a pattern? A lot of AMD. Isn't that funny? Most of my growth was on AMD chips as well. So I got an Optron 165. And the reason for that was it overclocked slightly better. That was around the same time i picked up asrock's very unique uh agp and pci

express board because i had an agp card at the time and i wanted to move to pci express later cool it was a great overclocking board shockingly other than the fact that you couldn't run 1t on your memory timings no matter what you did i tried everything all right from there i went to the e6600 Alright, from there, I went to the E6600. Now, why would I do that? Well, because Conroe was a performance revolution. It was a complete game changer. It absolutely curb stomped the aging Athlon 64.

And AMD didn't catch up. So from there, I went to Q6600. From there, I went to Q9650. Very temporarily, I borrowed that one from there. I went to Q 9650 very temporarily I Borrowed that one from work. I think it was a Q X 9650. Excuse me borrowed that one from work deal it at that I believe I was the first person to ever deal it a Q X 96 you did it a work thing. Don't worry about it. Oh Interesting from there. I picked up a core i7 Um, interesting. From there, I picked up a Core i7-920.

Man, that was a beast of a chip. Got myself, uh, this was right around the time that Kimonda went out of business. So Kimonda, yeah, remember Kimonda? Yeah. Yeah, so their Anion consumer lineup of memory. I don't even know if this is interesting to people. They might not even be watching. I don't care.

Doesn't matter. So, uh, their Anion brand, they had these one gig DIMMs that they were liquidating for, I think our cost was 20 bucks a pop. And at the time, that was nuts. It was wild. So NCIX bought everything that we could take. And internally, we were buying them at cost.

So it was sick. So I bought some. I still have some of that Aeon memory. Okay, hold on. One quick second here, just out of interest. In that era, upgrading your RAM was like a huge deal. It happened a lot. Yes and no.

No, we were a little bit after that. RAM was not affecting gaming performance anymore, especially because on the 1366 platform, it was triple channel memory. So you had six memory slots. So when I had were they two gig dims I think they were two gigs for 20 bucks They were if they were two gig dims for 20 bucks, and you could get the one gig ones for 10 I just remember when when when we first started playing like EverQuest

I never played ever everybody had to go get more RAM I had a like every Wow everybody that I knew I had to like go get more RAM in order to play EverQuest But everything else worked. I had a job. Like, every- wow. Everybody that I knew had to, like, go get more RAM in order to play EverQuest. But everything else worked fine. I had a job and a girlfriend. I did not. I was younger, though. Uh, anyway, so sorry. So, okay, so I went to a 920.

Then I think at some point I moved to, like, uh, like an Extreme Edition on that platform that I borrowed from work. My Extreme- that's the only reason why I actually switched to Intel originally. Was because I got a Retail Edge Extreme Edition on that platform that I borrowed from work. That's the only reason why I actually switched to Intel originally, was because I got a Retail Edge Extreme Edition. And I was like, this deal is way too good. So, of course, the price performance here is wild. So Retail Edge, speaking of Retail Edge, I believe I went 3,000 series through Retail Edge, and then that was right around the time that I became a product reviewer,

and I started more legitimately getting chips that I could use in my personal rig from work. Yeah. So I've been running Intel since then and actually my personal rig even though I upgraded it I did publish a video about that recently. I ended up downgrading it again. So I'm still running a 5960X. So I am looking for an upgrade. I need Thunderbolt Which might be a problem or maybe I could just run discrete cables. I don't know. I need Thunderbolt, which might be a problem, or maybe I could just run discrete cables, I don't know. I'll figure it out.

USB 3 extension cables are a bad time from my experience though. Nick is standing here very patiently. What can I do for you, Nick? What's up, dude? Hey, you did a really awesome shout out for the merch and then the stream died. I did, and then the stream died.

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Yeah. So the BYOC name is here. So you guys are starting ahead of the game because most conventions don't rope off BYOC. Oh, yeah. You got to have it roped off. And then it's fine for a couple of years and then things get stolen and then they have to rope it off.

Remember that the BYOC is not LTX. Right. It's DreamHacks BYOC. They're doing it right. So they know what they're doing. That makes sense. So DreamHacks FreePlay is right here. The BYOC is right here.

The FreePlay admin and the BYOC admin is here and here. This is the stream studio. I think they're planning to bring some streamers out or something. Yeah, sure. This is the VIP special guest, BYOC. So that's where you'll set up. Cool. Floatplane people.

Main stage. Meet and greet with creators, of which we have like two dozen coming now I love how the float where all the float plane people are is gonna be right next to meet and greet for creators So I can just try to like poach people as they finish their meet and greets There will be lines for people there too Oh yeah, very cool. We're doing gladiator jousting motherboard house of cards. We have an entire palette of PCBs So people are gonna be able to like build up you're gonna try and build the tallest house of cards from PCBs there'll be prizes nice

we have so much prizing Nvidia sent over a hundred pounds of graphics hey wasn't it like you did it based on weight or something yeah yeah there's like RTX 2080 TI's 2070s 2060s that's. Zotac is sending three pallets. Zotac is sending three pallets of prizing. Have they gone mad, son? What? That's amazing. What are they even drunking? It kind of makes sense. Okay, I'm going to

give you another PAX history thing. Sorry. Early days of PAX, it was much more hardware-based. I remember one year, NVIDIA was an entire wall in the singular convention center that there was, singular convention hall that there was, and many, many, many more hardware booths. And back then, we would come back from conventions with bags of swag, and we would often technically make more off of swag than we spent on the tickets and the trip in general,

which was wild, but that happened many times. And now you're lucky if you get like a few t-shirts because it's all gaming companies. I'm not that surprised that this is going on because it's a hardware-based convention. So the hardware guys are just like, yeah, take a bunch of stuff, which is so cool. We have 3,000 people coming each day, assuming that we sell the rest of the tickets. And like Saturday will be 3,000 people coming each day, assuming that we sell the rest of the tickets. And, like, Saturday will be 3,000 people. Yeah. So I'm not saying everyone's going to get, like, a full outfit and a gaming piece.

Oh, yeah, no. But we are doing our best to source as much giveaway swag as we can. And really, we want to encourage participation. Yeah. If people participate, they will walk away with something. If people don't participate, It's gonna be a lot tougher Yeah, that's kind of the way that I want it to be I want LTX should be highly interactive Yeah, absolutely that totally makes sense so back to the layout Razer is gonna be there

This is gonna be fun. There's an escape VR. There's actually a lot of VR experience So is the escape VR like a room that you have to move through or something? I don't know exactly how it works, but it's a third-party company that like does these cool. Yeah, so it should be pretty cool They can't hear you cuz you're off mic It's an escape room in a VR environment There's trussing. Yeah, don't worry. It's fine There's alsoussing. Yeah, don't worry. It's fine. There's also regular VR gaming. And then there's VR, which isn't really VR because it's more just reality

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of different hardware brands there physically. And it's going to be hardcore too, like CPU deletting, we're going to have a booth for that again. So Roman Derbauer sent over a bunch of his deletting tools. He's actually going to be there by the way. That's cool. GPU repasting, that's happening. DreamHack's indie playground. Case Toss is back,

and you get to toss an old Mac Pro cheese grater. Just kind of really sad. Gigabyte's going to be there. The Retro Gaming Lounge and Vintage PC area are going to be super cool. DreamHack indie playground. That's actually, I love the indie parts of these kind of shows, too.

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of Cold Brew or their Micro Roast, Shlomo for madrinas Is in the chat and ready to answer your questions through direct messages All right, we've got a couple more topics that I think we really wanted to talk about today Displayport 2.0. I hate Displayport. Yep. I love it when it works. Yep. I hate it when it doesn't work Yep, and it just it seems to not work for me at the most inopportune times. If you have a monitor basically exactly

next to your computer, fantastic. If you have to do anything funky with it ever, it's horrible. Sometimes it doesn't even hot plug. Yeah. It's wild. Hopefully they fix that stuff in the new version. I don't know how much I trust that, but, you know, hopefully.

It's crazy fast. 80 gigabit per second of raw bandwidth, effective bandwidth of 77.37, which is pretty nuts. 8K at 60 hertz HDR, 8K at 60 hertz SDR. Greater than 8K. Greater than 8K at 60 hertz SDR.

4K at 144 hertz HDR. Wow. And 2 times 5K, so dual monitor, I guess. Yeah, if you, 60 hertz SDR. 4K at 144 hertz HDR. Wow. And two times 5K, so dual monitor, I guess. Yeah, if you wanted to daisy chain. Yeah, okay. At 60 hertz. So basically this is the biggest leap forward in DisplayPort bandwidth ever.

So 1 and 1.1 were 8.6 gigabit per second. So you could do 1440p at 60 hertz, which was a big deal at the time. Yeah. 1.2 doubled that, a little more than doubled that so you could do 4k 60 hertz that was a big deal because prior to that to run 4k you had to do two cables dual cable and like tiling on your display which was really cheesy it was bad time it was not good um 1.3 and 1.4 could do up to 25.92. So that was actually a pretty small leap forward. 4K 120 hertz or 8K at 60 hertz with DSC,

which is, if I recall correctly, that acronym is the lossless compression. And then finally DP 2.0 with, I love this, I love this. The acronym for it, the code name for it, whatever you wanna call it, is UHBR, which to me sounds like Uber. with i love this i love this the like the acronym for the code name for it whatever we want to call it is uhbr which to me sounds like uber uber uber 20. 77.37 gigabit per second so this is a tripling in speed huge nut absolutely huge so they've got not just one but a few different bit rate modes the fastest mode in displayport 2.0 will top out at 80 gigabits per second of raw bandwidth,

so about two and a half times that of 1.3, 1.4. It also introduces a more efficient coding scheme, resulting in less coding overhead. So as a result, the effective bandwidth of the new standard will peak at 77.4, so that's three times. The physical characteristics. The port itself is staying. Yes. That's good. Both the port that we have now and the USB-C connector via the DP alt mode,

both the official ports for the new DisplayPort 2.0 standard, and the number of pins and resulting high-speed data lanes is remaining unchanged. So it will continue to operate over four lanes. It also retains the packet-based approach to communication, which means that image data continues to be sent as packets over a fixed bandwidth link as opposed to pixel-centric pixel clock approaches. And so what has changed is that the rest of the physical layer has been almost entirely replaced. So Thunderbolt 3, oh, with Thunderbolt 3, which is now a royalty-free standard and is going to be called USB 4, I guess, except not quite, because I think Thunderbolt branding,

Intel is still going to be using as sort of like their best-in-class implementation of the USB 4 standard that has a lot of optional components. So Thunderbolt 3 is truly bidirectional, full duplex link, two lanes allocated for each direction. Oh, and DisplayPort is focused on sending large volumes two lanes allocated for each direction.

Oh, and DisplayPort is focused on sending large volumes of data in just one direction. So DisplayPort 2.0 reverses the two inbound lanes to outbound. Cool. That's actually, that makes a lot of sense. I'm stoked as long as it actually works. Yeah. Yay. And I guess, actually, that's kind of, oh, yeah, we can talk about laser. Here's the laser one.

Sure. Yeah, so it's a new device developed by the Pentagon after the U.S. Special Forces requested it. Basically, everyone has a cardiac signature, and they can read that cardiac signature with an infrared laser. Apparently, it works through typical clothing like a shirt or a jacket, which surprised me. Wow.

But apparently not a thicker, like, like winter coat but still a jacket which blows my mind and i'm assuming they're gonna have i'm i'm kind of wondering if they're including like windbreakers as a jacket hard to say i don't know i wonder if it's to do with thickness or to do with layers layers might be a problem too i'm not sure uh But yeah, apparently cardiac signatures are already in use for security identification. This has happened before. A Canadian company that I'm going to butcher the name of, but I think it's NIME, has developed a wrist-worn pulse sensor as an alternative to fingerprint identification. A little crazy.

Apparently it can take a little while for it to kind of lock on, but it does work at a fairly far distance. So it's only really effective if the subject is sitting or standing, not really like moving around and stuff. Got it. Yeah. So 200 meters it works from.

Pretty wild. That's crazy. Pretty wild. So one glaring limitation is the need for a database of cardiac signatures. But even without this, the system has its uses. But you could probably pretty easily get that, especially at, like, passport stations, where people have to stand there for a while.

Just install it and grab it. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're handing them a passport. You're giving them your name and all your information so you match that up and create a national database really fast it's called jetson um in practice it's likely to be used alongside facial recognition or other identification methods but um in the long term the developers believe in addition to identification it could be used

to scan for arrhythmias and other conditions remotely and hospitals could monitor the condition of patients without having to wire them up to machines, which I guess is cool. But it's just yet another way that Big Brother will be watching, and there's no real preventing it at this point. Yeah, this one's kind of hard to screw with. The future is now. Yeah. Just start wearing, like, a plate over your chest. I was thinking about, but it's not just that, because I think it can see it through your skin in general Yeah, I guess they don't even have a cardiac signature in like your arm right yeah

So you'd have to have clean clothes Only solution lead clothing you'd have to have clothing that like ripples Intentionally like actively ripples you'd have to have active clothing active active IR camouflage All right, then You guys see you again next week same bad time the same bad channel. Bye. See you later It's vibrating chainmail. Vibrating chainmail. It's a mid-chat. Super chats!

Oh! Happy birthday, Preston! Happy birthday, Wyatt! LazyAK47 says, Saw you in a Pulseway commercial. Any other commercials you're in or will be in? No, not at this time, but it is a service that Linus media group does offer like commercial production it's not something that we publicize a ton um so the only reason we ended up doing that with pulseway was

just because like i don't know we just kind of ended up chatting about it like it wasn't um yeah i don't even know if it's on our website but yes it is something that we do but no there's nothing really planned right now bob says cake or cupcakes you know i'm not a cake guy or a cupcake guy neither give me a good muffin oh yeah okay on this topic because i wonder for the same about this too chocolate chip cookie oatmeal raisin cookie. Oatmeal chocolate chip. Whoa. I don't think I've had that. It's amazing.

Oatmeal's just better, in my opinion. Okay, sorry, we can keep going. Yeah, see, I'm not that into chocolate chip cookies because they're usually crappy cookie. Yeah. And they just try to get by on the chocolate. Yeah. Doesn't work that way.

Yeah. Ilya, Linus, will you ever tell us about that colorful dragon tattoo you had about a half year ago yeah i was just messing with you guys it's just a spray-on thing oh that people thought that was real a lot of people did wow well i kept reapplying it so it looked fresh for like quite a long time oh yeah interesting i was just messing with people. Video suggestion. A collab with Der Bauer since he's coming to LTX anyway. The problem is that everyone

and their dog is coming to LTX and they're coming for LTX and I'm going to be like scrambling in the lead up to LTX and then recovering from LTX. So unless they're like hanging around for a week, it's probably not going to be feasible.

Other side guy. Would you agree that car culture and building custom cars and modding is similar to the PC space? Yes. Oh, yeah, definitely. Hey, Linus, decided to blow five bucks just to see you make a funny face. All right.

Gap to granny. Brian says, Linus, if you phase yourself out, I'm going to Kermit. What is Kermitit i don't know uh david says linus been a huge fan of your channel for years taught me a lot keep up the good work thank you uh john says andy will probably move to four threads per core before intel just to fully nut kick them uh yeah they probably will oh what did i click i don't know oh no the down arrow maybe oh crud uh timo i did i got my new

ltt hat and hoodie with home door delivery post girl did apparently say that so you didn't need to go to the post office man canada post rocks in finland great feedback glad to hear uh shout out to my wife claire who is probably listening to this tomorrow says seal team ricks hey cool um midland says good evening linus would you ever consider building your own studio and what would you need in your dream studio? What a tremendous question. So if I were to build my own studio, first, I would start with a ground floor with like a library for kind of like a quiet place to sit and editing den for all the editors to sit and work together and collaborate.

Like a camera area where we can build up our rigs and tear them down and store them safely and like maybe a bathroom. Upstairs from that, I put a boardroom. I'd put my office. I'd put an office for my wife who does all the accounting, so she needs privacy. I'd put another small office just in case we needed it in the future. Maybe a nice open space so that we could put cubicles or something like that. Nice, nice, nice. Another bathroom probably. Yeah. Then I'd expand it. Okay. Okay. So I'd put Nick in my wife's office. I'd put her in mine and then I'd move over to the other side where there would be three offices. Luke had one of them at one point, but we would have kicked him out by then.

We'd leave one of them open for like meetings. Yeah. I'd take one of them. Then we'd have like an open space for the writers. Another bathroom. The more people you add, the more people need to pee. Yeah. I'd move the camera people out into the writers. Another bathroom. The more people you add, the more people need to pee. Yeah. I'd move the camera people

out into the warehouse at that point. I'd probably start with three warehouse units and I'd do like a green screen, like an LTT set, like a workshop, a tech link set,

and then like some storage area. Maybe a little nook for the WAN show. Then I'd probably get a couple more units. I'd add like an employee lounge and some more storage and then maybe like

a hardcore workshop with like modding stuff. Sweet, yeah. That's probably what I'd do. Smartate concise that's what i'd do um i was being facetious that's our studio yeah what did he mean they probably didn't know that we have a studio oh i'm just teasing we have a studio yeah we got our studio about four years ago yeah um well i could understand why people don't know because we intentionally changed the sets to look like a house so anyone who started watching in the last year or two might not realize that the kitchen that we shoot in all the time is not a real kitchen that was the whole idea so weird we wanted the videos

to look less like a set and a studio and more like we just shoot out of a house like a normal YouTuber. But you do videos out in the warehouse sometimes. Sometimes.

Not that often anymore. Not that often? No. Weird. That makes sense. Nikola, I'm going to an English course in Vancouver,

but I'm missing LTX. Oh, rude. What could I do that's tech-related while visiting? Honestly, not much. Ooh. Reedith says,

are you going to do something ridiculous and cool with the Corning Optical Thunderbolt 3 cable? Oh, yeah, go to FreeGeek. Do that. That's a good idea. Thank you. Yes, I'd love to. They're supposed to send me one,

but they haven't yet. Joshua says, there has been a way to add special IR commands to the power sequence on harmony for many years I think Logitech didn't want to blame the customer. Yeah, so the problem was that I couldn't so you have to pick from a menu Yeah, we went over all that Other side guy Ella IMO EVs haven't particularly taken off because the futuristic design employed makes them look tacky.

Yeah, that's a fair point. That's only part of the problem, though. Aporix says, Bitcoin is on the rise again. Do you have anything in the works for a mining update? Nope, I'm out. Jake Legs Tech says, this is going toward a new stream PC. Yeah, stream pc is not

the problem also see you at ltx okay see you there johnny says oh gee you better make ltx just as big or bigger next year my boss told me he will be pay next year due to he needs me at work in the holidays i had set aside for going so you better we will try i honestly can't promise that like we're gonna have two dozen creators there again because that is costing me a pretty penny the show itself could expand though yes and then maybe certain creators will just want to go anyways ryan says do you still ride your sv650 yes other side guy what's your thoughts on australia being non-existent in the tech and gaming industry it's really far that's the only reason i've never done there's actually a lot of tech fans in australia yeah and there's a huge amount of tech sales that

happen in australia so the community is actually pretty decent. Getting a show out there is extremely expensive if you're not based there. Because PAX has one, but I think that's it. Yeah, and it's relatively small. But again, it's extremely expensive. And getting a lot of the creators out there, a show like PAX is at the scale where they're not generally paying for creators to go. So the creators are going to be sponsoring themselves to go or getting sponsorships to go,

and both of those are way more difficult because it's really expensive and the ROI is a little bit different. It's a difficult market, but, like, yeah. The tech community in Australia is actually very large. Huge, very vibrant. Yeah, yeah. All right, bye, guys.

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