The WAN Show - Flight Sim 2020 will CRUSH Your Gaming Rig- WAN Show August 21, 2020

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

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We have got a fantastic show lined up for you today. There's been all kinds of great news. Some of it's bad news, but that's great. Apple is going to be supplying independent repair shops with parts, but it's not as cut and dried as you might think. Linus has a back button on the right-hand side of his mouse that he forgets about all the time and accidentally closed the dock, but that's okay. He found the forward button that he normally presses with his thumb on the left hand side and got right back in there um oh what was the other 10 out of 10 time buying breaking news the rtx

3090 has been pictured triple slot cooler i know luke loves that cpu and wait, this is GPU news for a change. Hey, how excited are you right now, Luke? Genuinely a little bit more exciting. Fantastic. What else we got going on here today? There's the Facebookening of Oculus. How triggered are you? Please, out of 10, give me an out of 10.

I need to have it. I think a lot less triggered now because i don't personally own one but if i did it would definitely be a 10 because i don't let's give it a let's give it a 9.9 i think if i remember correctly um and i should have looked this up but one of the things that was specifically said if i remember correctly way back maybe i shouldn't dive into this right now no you're gonna have to wait we'll talk about that later but yeah fantastic it's dumb and we'll discuss it in more detail later on um also the xbox series x architecture deep dive was done by hot chips 2020 and that's going to be exciting oh right and of course our headline topic can it run right microsoft flight sim 2020 that could be the new meme this thing is

absolutely melting the processors of machines that are trying to run it so we'll talk through what kind of performance you can expect in microsoft's latest i wanted to be a pilot but i didn't quite make it or maybe i am a pilot but i just like piloting more in my off time because i love to practice simulator yeah that's important let's go ahead roll that intro oh i might have screwed something up for one of our sponsors i was supposed to have a video to play and i don't have it and i can't get it because of that thing that i disable before the show so our sponsors are private internet access pulseway and kernel care wow kernel care is. All right. Good news. I still have that video from the last time. Okay, fantastic.

Hopefully they haven't changed it. So why don't we jump right into our headline topic for the day? Can it run Microsoft Flight Sim 2020? Microsoft released their new flight simulator on August 18th after... How long of a hiatus was this? 10 years? When's the last time? A very, very long time.

2008? Flight Sim 2000... There was 2006. 20... Wait. It was X, wasn't it? Microsoft Flight Simulator X. That came out in 2006.

2006. Holy crap. So they were out of the Flight Sim game for nearly 15 years and no one else has come in to take over the reins here. So Microsoft is back. The developers, Asobo Studio, have integrated some really cool features into the game. Like it's freaking groundbreaking. It is so cool from a technological standpoint. They've got a one-to-one scale Earth in the game using map data from Bing's map service. Yes, my friends, you can download Bing Maps to your computer pretty much. And you have to because when you buy it on Steam,

you just get like a launcher from Steam. I have to assume that Valve was just like, um, no. When Microsoft asked them if they could distribute 150 gigabytes of game data per user. I mean, that's Valve really earning their 30 cut right there especially when this thing's on sale like if microsoft wanted to put valve out of business like really put the herd on them they could just drop flight sim to like only a dollar yeah make it a 99 cent game they'll be like so you actually have to download the rest of the 150 gigabytes of data through the launcher.

There's lots of reports that the launcher is buggy and crashes a lot. Hopefully that's maybe because it's the 737 MAX launcher. That's not really funny. Just for a quick clarification, 2006 was the release of Flight Simulator X. 2014 was the release of Flight Simulator X Steam Edition. So that doesn't really matter. So yeah, it's been since 2006, 14 years. Crazy.

Real-time weather data, this is amazing, can be toggled on at any time, anywhere in the world. Like what? That is so cool. You can be flying around in the world. Like what? That is so cool. You can be flying around in the world effectively. That is mind blowing. Oh, you're muted, Luke. You're muted. You're out.

You're done. Sorry. Sorry. That's really interesting because you could go to natural disasters effectively, I guess. I wonder how they handle that. There's two hurricanes coming into. Oh, geez. What is it? I'm probably going to say wrong thing so like i think it's gulf of mexico or something fly in a hurricane so could you fly to that i don't know i mean they would have i assume they would have like the wind speed at the various like stations and satellite data to

show like what it's doing and stuff i mean i have no idea how sophisticated it is like it might just be like the feed from accuweather or whatever it's like yeah it's doing and stuff. I mean, I have no idea how sophisticated it is. Like it might just be like the feed from AccuWeather or whatever. It's like, yeah, it's raining right now, but it might not know how heavy it is. I don't know, but it's either way, it's freaking cool. And with how much work they've put into it now and how long of a lifetime you might expect from a flight simulator game,

I would not be surprised to see this have like a very long lifetime on it and for them to continue to add features. There are 37,000 airports around the world that you can take off from and land at. There are 25 to 35 planes, depending on which version you purchase. And Nicholas is actually posting in the doc right now it also has ai controlled real-time planes shut up based on real world flights that are just like super cool also gonna be in the sky that's actually shut up that is so cool i actually did not know about that last one um it's doing this really cool 3D mapping thing so that you can actually like fly, like you can do a flyby of a city. Like, I mean, I guess if you're a good enough pilot,

you could probably fly right down to the street and the buildings will actually be one-to-one representations of what they're supposed to look like. I don't think that's in every city right now. Don't quote me on that. But definitely some. And the recommended specs. Luke, hit me with them recommended specs, please, sir. Windows 10, DirectX 11, DirectX 12 is going to be added later. Wow, super, super scary. Intel i5-8400 or an AMD Ryzen 5 1500X. 16 gigs of RAM.

An NVIDIA GTX 970 or Radeon rx 590 150 gigs of disk space and i'm getting some somewhat mixed information here but i think that's a minimum not a total yeah because as you potentially like fly around you might need to like stream download some of the like extra map data and stuff yeah you probably shouldn't be riding like right at the limit of your storage drive yeah yeah um and it doesn't use the steam downloader as we talked about for the 150 gigabytes so you'll be getting that through the client um but they used apparently two petabytes of map data to stitch the world together i don't know what that's going to translate into in terms of what you need to download in order to fly around. But yeah, 150 gigs.

That's a minimum. But they do say that you need a 20 megabit per second connection. So presumably that's for the data streaming. Now, I was making a bunch of faces there because that doesn't actually sound that bad. That sounds pretty reasonable for a modern AAA title. Except for one small problem the game looks amazing but in spite of the um pretty pedestrian minimum specs at least if you're like a hardcore gamer in order to really turn it up uh you are going to put your poor poor graphics card in particular into fan speed overdrive here

because a 2080 Ti on ultra settings at just 1080p gets around 50 FPS. You want to turn that up to 4K, ladies and gentlemen? And remember, you very well might. This is flight sim. Never mind 4K. You're going to want a cockpit, okay? So you want to turn you want to turn this up to 4k on a single display you're gonna be looking at a oh about 350 35 fps

ouch so brutal uh so this is you can head over to guru 3d they've got a full breakdown of what kind of frame rates you can expect across various graphics cards, all the way from an R9 Fury all the way up to an RTX 2080 Ti. And basically at 1080p, remember this is ultra details, you don't have to run on ultra details, but with something like a SIM, it sure doesn't hurt because having maximum view distance and really high quality drawing of far away objects is really increases the immersiveness if you want 30 fps at 1080p you are running a gtx

1070 or better holy crap unreal within the last i would suspect that probably like like a 1060 that's a pretty solid card well yeah especially for 1080p gaming like most things you're gonna do that's quite a solid card that's only 25 fps at 1080 we're talking we're talking yesterday's resolution today like 1070 that like to just to like to wrap our brains around that like i'm thinking about it in terms of like when I got into PC gaming here, right? Like a 1070 means within the last four years, I would have need to,

I would need to have bought a top tier gaming card, like an enthusiast tier, not just like, hey, I want to play some video games, like an expensive graphics card i'm going on ebay.com i'm going to ebay.com right now luke i'm going shopping and you're moving past the like yeah okay i want to play like league of legends or counter-strike or exactly whatever other like the the common internet competitive games fortnite whatnot you're moving past that you're getting into more serious stuff you're starting to care a lot about fidelity

instead of just like, can I play the game at decent FPS? Exactly. And as an alternate path, okay, so let's say I didn't buy a $400 graphics card four years ago, let's say I was shopping today. I am still the kind of customer who is spending $200 on a second hand graphics card. So even if I'm a value shopper,

I'm still the kind of person spending $200 on a secondhand graphics card. So even if I'm a value shopper, I'm still the kind of person spending $200 on a video card. And like, think back to yourself when you were young, $200 on a graphics card? Like that's a lot of lunch money. That's not trivial. Yeah. Freaking crazy. Of course, of course,

you do not have to turn it up to ultra but this is one heavy game i'm actually i'm stoked to try it out guess what we just got jake pushed for it we got a motion sim chair that like moves you around yeah i tried it out i'd never tried like a good one like well i tried them at like trade shows and stuff but never never in the comfort of my own home or studio, I guess, as it were, just trying it and actually able to sit there and enjoy myself and have fun. And playing a set of Corsa on it, I was like... I realized as I was filming, I was talking to the camera, but I just realized I had this stupid grin on my face

because it's just pure fun. Just pure fun. It's like, have you ever gone horseback riding? You ever horseback? Not for a really long time, but yes. Okay. Have you ever gone fast on the back of a horse? No. Like, like galloped or cantered? Okay. Not really. It's, it's involuntary. If you, as soon as you get past trotting speed, when it's basically just like your boys being mashed against the inside of your thigh in a hard leather saddle, once you get past that speed, it's involuntary. I guarantee you if someone took a picture of you, you wouldn't even realize you're doing it, but you have a big dumb grin on your face because it is so much fun.

It wasn't as fun as horseback riding, but it was definitely fun. And I'm stoked to play around with it some more. You know, the real story here is that I knew that Jake would work really hard to get his hands on one if I made him a deal where he could acquire it after the fact for super cheap. So I made him an offer within like four days. He had found one of those companies to send us one. And so I don't even get to have it and we can't even put it in the lounge because I made a deal for us to not have it anymore, unfortunately.

So make sure you come in and try it before Jake takes off with it, the freaking guy. What do you want to do next? We have actually so many great topics today like one thing i one thing i'll bring up while we're on the two things i guess that i'll bring up while we're still on the microsoft flight sim topic is one uh there was some people pointing out that because the launcher has to do this very large download after you buy the game and the download through steam is very small because you just downloaded the launcher uh technically you are buy the game and the download through steam is very small because you're just downloading the launcher uh technically you are playing the game when you load the launcher to download it

so if you want to get a refund that counts against your two hours of playing that's pretty rough valve seems to have responded and been like uh yeah no that's not how that should work this will be fine apparently they have some way of detecting if you're actually actually actively playing the game, not just the launcher. Some people seem to have gotten up by this, but you should be able to contact them again and probably get a refund.

They are trying to be accommodating about it. And they're working with Microsoft to try to get the download speed to be a little bit faster because especially people with bad internet connections that don't realize how big the game is um it's like they're getting to a point where they're like i'm just never going to be able to play it so i just want my money back and that has been a little bit of an issue so if you had a problem with that re-reach out and hopefully it

won't be a problem moving forward the other thing is if you're a kid like we mentioned and 200 bucks for a graphics card is i mean 200 bucks for a graphics card for anyone is that you're an enthusiast here at that point yeah it's it's a lot of money you're not casual but especially if you're a kid i'm specifically talking to you this is a dad game talk to your dad get a computer upgrade talk to your mom maybe she's into flight stuff i don't know but it's like it's a a very- It's a learning opportunity. It's a very parent-friendly game. Not only will they very likely want to play it, that's cool,

but it also doesn't have shooting and gore and all that kind of fun stuff. You know, maybe you want to be a pilot one day. You can get a computer upgrade. And then I don't even care if you play flight sim, you got a computer upgrade. Fantastic. Like the thing here's the thing you guys gotta well we're not taught we don't want to convince you guys to like scam your parents you should only get it if you're gonna actually play it but flight sim is i mean i would play it anyways it is cool

not a game like it's a game but if you wanted to know legitimately a lot about how to fly a plane you spend a whole bunch of time in flight sim there is actually a solid chance that if you wanted to know legitimately a lot about how to fly a plane you spend a whole bunch of time in flight sim there is actually a solid chance that if you're actually good at flight sim 2020 that if there was an emergency and you had to like operate an aircraft you could maybe do it you'd definitely be better equipped than someone who's look look am i wrong no i i don't necessarily think so like that's the. It's designed to be really realistic. So would it be ideal? It's hyper cool.

Even if you don't feel like you're crazy into it, it's a pretty cool experience. I don't necessarily, I'm not going to say you should necessarily buy it if you're like, yeah, I'm not interested at all. But it is pretty cool. Flight sims are fun. They're not like my major cup of tea, but they're definitely fun.

Yeah. All right. Wow, man, there's so much good stuff here. I don't even know what to talk about. Do you want to do the Facebookening of Oculus? Uh, sure. Okay, so Oculus will do... Sorry, I'll use a different word.

Should we talk about the Facebookening of Oculus? Yes, I think so. I think it's a good thing to spread the word. Oculus will soon require all of its virtual reality headset users to sign up with a Facebook account. They've been pushing the Facebook stuff a little bit further and a little bit further for a long time, and this seems like the ultimate step over the line.

Oculus says it will start removing support for separate Oculus accounts in October of 2020. So not only are they not grandfathering necessarily, they are fully removing it. If you are an existing Oculus user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years and then that's it. The mandated switch from Oculus ID to Facebook accounts will begin on January 1st, 2023, and older devices will still function in an offline capacity. So that, I mean, at least that's, they didn't screw you over in that tiny small sector.

In an offline capacity? Like, okay, sure. Gone are the days of making a private unidentifiable username, pretending to be anyone isn't allowed which is facebook's real name policy that's a quote yeah anyone isn't allowed yeah it's because it's attached to facebook you now have facebook's rules somewhat applied to your oculus stuff because you have to have a facebook account and there are certain rules that go along with that so that's automatically being carried over so that is a bit of an issue the new changes apparently consolidate Facebook's management of its platforms a new privacy

policy will be administered by Facebook itself not the separate Facebook technologies hardware hardware subsidiary. This one that's coming, this is brutal. Yeah. Facebook also locked in headset voice comms behind a Facebook account. You can't use an Oculus account for social functions anymore. This is a little bit of a side. No console or connected gaming service has ever required its user's social network

or even its wholly owned email products to function uh with the exception of google stadia which launched with the requirement of a google account yeah this is super rough and the device did not launch with it either which is pretty important one could argue that this almost completely eliminates oculus as an option for enterprise VR. Yeah. The only VR segment that's consistent, still consistently growing. VR has done very well during the pandemic. In general, just VR across the board has done very, very well. And satisfaction with their VR purchases, I think has also been much stronger during the pandemic. People are stuck inside. They're going to spend more time working with the device,

making sure that they get it going because they're stuck inside anyways. So they might as well. So I think that has directly led to that. I think VR has been really, really strong as of late, which is great. And this doesn't help it. So while it is worse, I would...

Or it is not worse uh it is more expensive i would strongly recommend an index because they're great and you don't need a facebook account or all your social interactions and your voice chat isn't piped with your facebook account vive pro still exists um i've never actually reviewed one of their products, but I've heard from happy users. Pimax also still exists. There are other options out there. Yeah. It's time to get off the ship. Time to explore them.

This is really, really unfortunate. I mean, the idea, because for a lot of people, VR is not about gaming at all. Like, it's about applications like VRChat consistently. When I fire up my headset and I look at the Steam, whatever that interface is called, where you're like standing in the big fancy living room. You know what I'm talking about, Luke, right? What's that called?

I can't remember. I don't remember. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. The point is it shows you the top current applications for VR. It's like always VRChat. Like always VRChat. And that will completely change for people with forced connected.

I mean, people are just going to make fake accounts. Yeah. It's technically against Facebook's terms of service. So then you're like risking your, I was going to say your Oculus account, but that's not even what it is anymore. Yeah, just your, I don't, what are they going to do, right? Are they going to not even right yeah just your i don't what are they gonna do right are they gonna brick your headset like i don't know i don't think they've ever really no idea done anything like that but i just oh man and you know what the crazy thing is you and i are all doom and gloom about this but it's probably not gonna matter the vast majority

of the people who buy one of these are probably just gonna be like just like just like the the t's and c's that you go through when you buy a new washing machine, or whatever a new printer, you know, you know, when you buy a printer, right? Like you go through your initial setup. It's like, do you accept the end user license agreement? I don't read that. Like, who cares? Like, I think most people like most consumers would see a device like this as about as likely contain to contain a horrendous privacy policy as a printer um and in fact they might not even necessarily realize that oculus by facebook is like no really like that facebook like watch out yeah it's got a microphone on it it's got like your movements they'll know how tall you are

isn't that great data for facebook to have all of a sudden they can start they can start advertising clothing to you that's just like your size they already do a lot a lot of clothing advertisement i'm having a hard time finding the exact quote that i'm that i'm hoping to find. But I did find this quote back from when Facebook bought Oculus. Oculus already has big plans here so that won't be changing and we hope to accelerate them, wrote Zuckerberg, outlining plans to keep Oculus as an independent entity under the Facebook umbrella. There's probably a WAN show.

Not so much. From that time where you and I were like, doubt it. There's no way we didn't say doubt it. I really want to find this because I feel like it was... Oh, is this it? I think I just found it this is brutal there's a post on road to vr here's where facebook guaranteed users would never need a facebook account use

oculus headsets i've been thinking this whole time that there was a quote where they said you would never need a facebook account to use a to use a oculus product but it's but like i can't i can't say the quotes i don't exactly remember it and i don't have a reference but i'm i'm hoping road to vr will have this uh i'm gonna send you this article if you want to do screen stuff brutal um i'm trying to find the quote in here though you know what while you're doing that actually why don't i jump in and do our sponsors for the show sure is that cool that cool? Okay. The show is brought to you today by Private Internet Access. What's in your online security? That's

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Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. All right, Luke. Did you find it? I made a little, no, I made a little. Both. Thanks, Luke. But you were already on the next one by the time I got here. I know you got my backdrop.

I tried. So yeah, I found it before I ran away. Not only did I find the original quote, which is from six years ago on Reddit, Palmer Lucky, at the time was an employee, not anymore. He said, I guarantee that you won't need to log into your Facebook account every time you want to use the Oculus Rift. This was on a post called The Future of VR. I didn't read it, but I'm assuming they complained about the fact that Facebook was buying them and it got downloaded into Oblivion. Now, there's been an update from Palmer Luckey

because he made that quote, right? So people called him a liar now that it is happening and he responded by directly saying i am already getting heat from users and media outlets who say this policy change proves i was lying when i consistently said this wouldn't happen and this wasn't like i'm fairly certain that reddit quote was not the only time he said that because like i probably saw that reddit quote back in the day time he said that. Because like, I probably saw that Reddit quote back in the day. But this was like ingrained in my mind. I remember this was a very important thing during the acquisition. And I'm sure it was said other places as well. So he said,

I was lying when I people were saying I was lying when I consistently said this wouldn't happen, or at least that it was a guarantee I wasn't in a position to make. I want to make clear that those promises were approved by Facebook in that moment and on an ongoing basis. And I really believe it would continue to be a case for a variety of reasons. Is he stupid? He's going to address that. In hindsight, the downvotes from people with more real world experience than me were definitely justified so he's he's kind of accepting that point now a few examples below so people won't make up their own version of what i actually said he said i guarantee that you won't need to log into your facebook account every time you want to use an

oculus rift he said you will not need a facebook account to use or develop for the rift rift um he said nope that would be lame and he said i promise and he's putting on record that yes he did say all those things and they were approved by facebook at the time so yes they have absolutely gone back on a major major previous promise that people bought products based on i guarantee it and i personally think that's a major issue and could even potentially come down to a legal issue they might even just be just pricing in a class action lawsuit here like i mean realistically if i'm facebook i'm looking at it going well i don I don't know, whatever. How many riffs did we sell? Okay, whatever. Right?

Like, okay. Especially when compared to the future of where VR is like basically inevitably going to end up. Yeah. Where they're going to sell way more riffs and they want to have the Facebook account shoved down your throat. Yep. Yeah. I mean, this is one of those things where like, where I'm surprised it took this long for them to make that bet because the sooner they reverse their course, the better off they'd be, if you think about it.

Less cost for fewer Oculus devices out there and more data. So, yeah, doesn't surprise me at all. Good job, Zuck. Love you, dude. Love you, dude. Good guy. Good guy. at all good job zuck love you dude love you good guy good guy uh speaking of disappointing um i'm disappointed that i haven't had a chance to tell you about our latest shirt design over on ltt store.com yet this may be our coolest shirt yet have you actually seen this one yet no i haven't

i saw i saw like the text description but i haven haven't seen it. That's pretty cool. Okay, hold on. But you got to look closely here. So lttstore.com. We're calling this the Stealth Logo CPU T-shirt. Okay, it's not the best name ever, but whatever. Check it out. So it's like, it's CPU pins. Okay, so you can see you got like your uh which hand is which there we go you

got like your little triangle indicator there and it's like a cpu from the bottom so you got all your pins it's got like a little bit of sheen to it so it's actually like a shiny black printing on a black shirt so it's like very stealthy but you can see in the pictures on the store here let me throw up my display capture here yep you can see in the pictures on the store, there's an LTT logo in there. Is that the solid dots? And the hollow dots are not the LTT logo? Yes. So what's kind of crazy about it

is that in order to see the logo in person, like you can see, I'm standing too close to you. In order to see the logo properly in person, you have to be about two to three meters away. There you go. Yeah, like on the pictures on the store, I don't really see it on almost anyone except for you. There's a few people where you can see it a bit,

but yours are much more clear. The farther away you go, the more you can see it. So what's really funny is this wasn't the intent, obviously, but I was talking to Sarah about it. She designed this one. She's like, yeah, it's kind of like the social distancing shirt. If you can read the logo, you're far enough away, right? Like if you can't see it, you're too close. Get out of here. Yeah. So super cool design. Also, like like can we just take a moment to appreciate how good our staff looks when they like model stuff even though these are like not professional models by any stretch of the imagination i i love it it's so it's so nice that everyone just like contributes because this is not something we actually require our staff to do this is just i think all you get um obviously you're getting paid because you're like on shift um but you're not getting

paid any extra for like being a model for lttstore.com um so all you get is i think you get the shirt that you wear or like the underwear that you wear whatever the case may be like it's it's just really out of generosity and actually loving the products and wanting to use them so it's pretty cool be real interesting if they didn't get to keep the underwear that they wore everybody kept the underwear they modeled uh one extra thing that i want to jump back on yeah the the oculus topic uh is another promise that was made uh i'm going to assume at the time it was, it was approved by Facebook, but I don't, I don't have direct, uh, comment about that. Um, but he made a quote says we are not going to track you flash ads at you or do anything else

invasive. Um, was this Palmer again? That was, that was, That was Mr. Palmer. So Facebook has already confirmed to be tracking your activity, tracking the activity of Oculus users to inform them of advertising that is shown to those users outside of the headset. So that's already happening. Yeah, okay. Well, that's nice. Why don't we talk about Apple supplying parts to independent repair shops? What do you think?

This was posted by Pickles, Lord of the Jar on the forum. Thanks Riley for popping this in here. He has had one heck of a busy week and it's really appreciate him sort of pitching in and making sure he's helping out the rest of the team. Thank you, Riley. Apple announced it's expanding its independent repair provider program to include Mac computers So it launched last year but only included iPhone repairs this move will see Apple provide

independent repair shops with Apple certified genuine parts tools and even training concerning the repair of out of warranty Macs, but The one and only Lewis Rossman pointed out a bunch of problems, including onerous conditions before shops can get parts and support. So these may lead repair shops to having to wait one to two weeks to get parts after a customer's repair request comes in, which if you've ever worked in the customer service industry, you might know that telling someone it'll be about one to two weeks before I even look at your job is a great way to get them to walk right out the door and go to somebody else. Shops can't stock certain common parts like batteries ahead of time because heaven forbid

you be able to provide good customer service to Apple's customers. You know, I've got a whole rant that I want to do that's like sort of related to this after after this. Okay. Okay, yeah, we'll talk about that after. The list of parts included in the program is also restrictive, so you can't get certain parts from Apple. So Rossman believes the program is an attempt by Apple to convince regulators it's not actually a monopoly, that everything is fine and just move along, nothing to see here. In case you want to transition into talking about Apple and Epic here. Oh man, Apple and Epic, this is great. So digital content next. So a trade organization representing

Washington Post, New York Times, dozens of others, asked Apple to change the 30% cut. So this is an article over on CNET. Apple filed a declaration basically saying the whole thing is Epic's fault. They could have just stayed in line. Lol. And Apple reveals emails showing Tim Sweeney asking Tim Cook for special treatment, kind of like the 15% cut that Apple takes from Prime Video before this all went down down adding evidence to the claim that epic had planned all of this ahead of time oh that's not even a claim that's like i mean you saw that there's no way there's an alternative you saw that 1984 spoof well you also saw the like what was it 63 page legal document or something that they filed like hours afterwards like yeah it's it's it would be quite an impressive feat if this wasn't planned ahead so i'm not a fan of everything that epic games

and by extension tim sweeney or maybe tim sweeney and by extension epic games whatever it doesn't matter i'm not a big fan of everything they do. This appears to be a legitimate pro-consumer move. I don't know why. I don't know why. I'm not going to I'm not going to guess at their motivation. It's definitely self-serving. Hold on, hold on. Do you want to make an apology video Luke? Because that's how you make an apology video. I'm not saying it's not going to help other people, or I'm not saying it at least could help other people. I know they're positioning it as that.

They clearly have their own desires and goals from this situation. But it's unclear exactly what they are. So on the one hand, they definitely want to pay less in platform processing fees to Apple and Google. Seems like they would really like to have their own store. That seems to be quite a big focus. They would really like to have a Play Store equivalent that is the Epic Games Store.

That seems to be something that they've put quite a bit of pressure and quite a bit of focus on um i think that's the biggest one to be honest um i i think if apple was like okay but we're gonna we're gonna keep our 30 fee but you can have your own independent store on iphones i think they would be super happy and would close everything down no way i don't think they'd take that okay wait do you think that's why epic's going so much harder after apple compared to google like even just the wording because obviously they got like they got dropped from both the app store and the play store like to be clear they are they are at odds with both apple and google right now and yet they chose apple's iconic 1984 commercial to parody they

called out apple specifically in the blurb after it i'm trying to remember exactly what they said 1984 uh parody it feels like to me it feels like to me that they didn't necessarily anticipate the Google response as much as they anticipated the Apple response. But they could have easily changed this wording. So in their 1984 parody, they've got... Here, I'll just throw a display capture up here. Epic Games has defied the App Store monopoly. In retaliation, Apple is blocking Fortnite from a billion devices. Join the fight to stop 2020 from becoming 1984.

Why not at least mention Google, right? And here's my guess based on what you just said then is because Google does actually allow alternate app stores. Yeah, there was some issues there though. I'm not super on top of all the details here. And I want to bring up one really quick thing. Yeah, someone in Twitch chat, Irish guy 67 said that according to Lewis Rossman, Apple will require all customer personal information, name, address, etc, to be collected and passed to Apple alongside the parts order. Yep. Um, his example of an issue here is if you bought a secondhand

Mac on Craigslist and needed to repair, then Apple would, uh, obtain all of your info, even though you're not the original buyer. Right. Interesting. Something to, uh, just add on top of that. Sorry, what are you going to say? So I just want to get back to like, what is like like what is the point of taking on apple here like obviously if they can get their if they can get their app store um you know uh commission cut then that would be better than nothing but it seems like if i was if i was tim sweeney and i actually haven't read the original email where he asked tim cook for special treatment. We also don't know anything about any conversations that might have taken place over the phone or in

person about this. And we're talking, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars on the line here, like by the time Apple's taking 30% of Fortnite revenue on iOS, there's a lot of microtransactions there ladies and gentlemen wasn't fortnite a billion dollar business for epic in one year i i i can't i can't remember the exact number but let's say maybe not hundreds let's say tens of millions of dollars it's worth having it's worth having dinner basically so we don't know what's been said but i have to assume that at some point epic could have gone to apple and said okay okay, well, here's the... How many pages was the document?

300 something? I think 60 something. 60, whatever. Here's the legal document we put together. This is going to start an absolute storm, not just with us, but with every developer you work with who is tired of giving you 30%

of the top line revenue associated with their app. You should just give us a discount and we can make this all go away. I have to assume that that conversation never took place because if I'm Tim Cook, why wouldn't I just take that deal? Maybe because Tim Cook and maybe Apple and maybe Tim Cook just doesn't actually respect gaming or like think that it matters. We've definitely seen that attitude from them over the decades. Apple has not had enough respect for gaming.

They treat it like it's just like a casual thing you do on the toilet. They really do. So maybe part of it is that. Like, sorry, what? Epic Games? Excuse me. Apple is also an exceedingly arrogant company. uh apple's also an exceedingly arrogant company uh and you know whether it's their policies towards not helping their consumers because whatever you're going to do take your business elsewhere

um or whether it's their uh the wow decade-long hiatus they've been on for dealing with nvidia after that meltdown of geforce chips and macbooks way way 100 years ago, they have shown that they are not willing to forgive and forget. So, you know, maybe that's exactly what happened. Maybe Tim Sweeney put a gun to Tim Cook's head. And I don't have to say Tim every time, I guess. Maybe Sweeney put a gun to Cook's head and, you know, the cookster didn't like it.

And, you know, he went cookie on his ass. Like, I don't know. I don't know how it went down. The point is, this just seems so unnecessary. And so it makes me question Epic's motives, especially the fact that they are so laser focused on Apple and all of this google takes the same 30 cut yep i i think um and google google specifically takes it from gaming to be clear um because that was something i was i was interested in because i was like they don't seem to have an issue with us uh but yeah it's gaming stuff specifically um the fortnight specifically was not on the play store originally and find it finding news about this is like kind of difficult now because yeah they got like you

mean the current one right i'm like no i mean last time so they weren't on the play store originally they were in their own situation and google pushed them to come on to the play store mostly because there was like tons of issues with malware and stuff right i don't remember how that exactly worked i don't know if it was like fake fortnite download links or something that was happening i'm not certain but there was a lot of issues that users were having yeah with it not being on the play store um and epic kind of fought for a while but eventually agreed to put it on the play store um and epic kind of fought for a while but eventually agreed to put it on the play store now they've been kicked back off um but they they have statements um in in their like counter to apple that specifically talks about uh wanting to be able to

have their own store someone in twitch chat said like um you're dumb blah blah they would only be three games i think they want to be like the gaming store for mobile phones uh they're pushing the epic store for desktop uh it has more games on it than just games made by epic or using an engine or using unreal engine absolutely it's it's wider than that and i think that's what they're trying to do with mobile so you think they're trying to push in legally okay so here we go it's starting to materialize so epic is after what did they take a 12 cut on epic game store something like that i think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 15%. Can't remember. I want to say 12. That often comes with exclusivity clauses though. So here we go. Maybe this is the plan. Maybe Epic wants to be an alternative gaming-centric store and they see the

30% that Apple and Google take as an impossible burden to bear for game developers. Whereas if Apple and Google were willing to take just, well, 10%, then Epic could also take 10% or 12% and they'd still be under what people were paying before and they can position themselves as like a pro developers, pro consumer platform while taking, you know, 10% of all gaming revenue effectively on mobile. Is that the end game here yeah uh the one thing i would add is i'm pretty sure steam also takes 30 yes they do

uh so the the platform cut has been like kind of 30 across the board which is nuts so epic is going i can be a disruptor still make bucket loads and bucket loads of money on other people's work um why not yeah all i gotta do is go to war with apple yeah uh cliffy in youtube chat um posts fortnite is a billion dollar business why would you care about 30 cut because 30 of a billion dollars is 300 million dollars it must be nice to be as rich as cliffy where you don't care about 300 million dollars yeah really wow wow cliffy what a what a baller what a freaking baller all right oh my goodness that's that's a great that's a great statement uh for for alse which i think is

uh pronounced false false uh which is a great username for you by the way says youtube takes 45 youtubers make millions um i'm not aware uh actually i think youtube does take 45 of adsense but i they take less of things like Super Chats. As for YouTubers making millions, yes, some do, most don't. That's kind of like saying lottery ticket purchasers make millions. Yeah, some of them do. There's also a bit more infrastructure difficulty

involved in what YouTube's doing. Yes, I have a ton of respect, especially having started up a video streaming platform i mean i have so much respect for what google does with youtube honestly i i complain i complain about it but youtube has changed video i was going to say online video, but I checked myself because they have changed video and it was not easy. And it continues to be not easy. Mad, mad, mad respect for Google and YouTube and what they do. And I pay my however many double digits of percentage gladly because they do so much more for me than the App Store does for an app developer quite frankly they provide a

platform like apple does they process payment like apple does but they also bring an audience to you which apple does but also its discoverability is not great discoverability is also purchasable on that platform you can buy ad space and purchase it on youtube too if you really want to i mean you can't you can't buy uh sort of not not in the same way like you i don't as far as i know you can't have you can't buy the search term for linus tech tips like like if someone typed in linus tech tips i see what you mean i don't think kyle could make it so that bitwit shows up over top of yours through a promotion thing if he could if he could that would do it

go for gold someone also pointed out that the twitch cut is 50 50 and it's like yeah this is we're in the same situation yeah and live is so hard live is so difficult yeah so expensive yeah and the vast majority of the people on the platform aren't paying for it yeah that's the biggest thing actually you know what that's the biggest thing i forgot i'm sorry luke i totally screwed up that bit about why youtube is so amazing and why they're so good to youtubers because yeah i'm giving them 45 of my adsense or whatever that's because somebody, it's like video distribution socialism effectively because somebody has to pay for that person

who uploads a bunch of unlisted videos just to share with their family that nobody ever views and nobody ever sees an add-on, but that is definitely taking up bandwidth and taking up storage space on Google servers somewhere. Yeah, they're mining it for data, but let's not pretend that the margins on that are good enough to justify the amount of video they store. There's even stuff that isn't even really like that too. Like Bill Wurtz, probably most of the people in the audience, the vast majority of the people in the audience have probably heard of this, even if you don't

recognize the name. He did the history of Japan and history of the world videos. Do you know what I'm talking about? I actually don't. I don't watch a lot of YouTube. Okay. Well, history of the entire world, comma, I guess, has 97 million views. Okay. And history of Japan has 59 million views. and history of japan has 59 million views no ads somebody has to subsidize that that's me and i'm okay that's over 150 million views one of the videos is 20 minutes long the other video is nine minutes long sure this is like crazy cash all around the whole freaking world but there's no ads yep that has to get paid for that's that's money dude some you know what would be kind of interesting for next uh wan show do you want to run the numbers like how much that video costs

to serve to 96 million people i'm well i'm curious there's no way there's no way for us to know because of the amount of extensive caching that they have all around the world. We don't know what their infrastructure is like. But let's just do it in a basic way. Right? Because that's like, okay. Like if you didn't have the super powerhouse that is.

So if you tried to do this on your own. So if Bill Wurtz tried to, Bill Wurtz has billwurtz.com. Yeah. Because that's like. So if Bill Wurtz tried to do billwurtz.com where you can watch videos so if he tried to deliver it through this website what would it cost him in order to have

like good availability across the globe yeah because that's that's what youtube does it's the democratization of video distribution like it's it's actually incredible and so yeah google doesn't have to pay for every byte that gets transferred over the series of tubes or whatever, because they've got, you know, cash point, cashing points or whatever the case may be. But remember, they had to build that out. And there was an engineering cost associated with developing that technology, you know, 15 years ago when it was not as easy as it is to do now even. So, yeah, I would love to know. I'd be super curious about what that costs. How many LTT videos at 45% of the ad revenue

YouTube has to serve in order to pay for all the people that watch that, right? It's awesome. It's awesome. I love YouTube. I also get real mad at them sometimes, but I genuinely do love youtube and and what they've done as a whole they make mistakes 100 like luke and i joke sometimes that youtube is

floatplane's best possible pr department because they just they just constantly like screw up but um you know other than that i i love them dearly well for that, I love them dearly. Well, for that even, I love them dearly. Well, sure, why not? Fair, fair. Why don't we jump into our next topic here? Do you want to do the Xbox Series X deep dive architecture bit?

Sure, this is extremely verbose. Yeah. Wow. you know what let's not get too deep into it so what we do know is that the chip is 360.4 millimeter square with 15.3 billion transistors so this is a big fat chip eight processing cores and it looks like only eight of the CUs, so these are the compute units, that's how AMD divvies up their GPUs, are disabled. That's generally speaking to improve yields because that way if you have some of your GPUs that are sort of dead on arrival, you can still use that chip. We don't know how much higher the cost is going to be, but Microsoft lists the Xbox One as $$, the One S as $$+, oh, sorry, the One X as $$+, and the Series X as $$++. Cost per wafer for TSMC's 7nm lithography is substantially higher than at 12nm. So even though you're getting to squeeze more chips on, if you're also packing more transistors

into each Xbox, that means that your chip size is not necessarily smaller, so the cost per chip is actually higher. They provided additional details on their velocity architecture. So they basically said, so DRAM used to decrease by 30% per year for cost, but in the past eight and a half years, it's only been dropping at 5% per year. Flash memory, by contrast, has declined in price by 23% in each year over the same period. So they've been looking at how to use SSDs to make up for some of what DRAM used to do, which is actually kind of similar to what my, excuse me, Microsoft, to what Sony was talking about when Mark Cerny did that great talk about the architecture of the

PS5. So basically they're able to leverage flash memory for improved overall performance without the need to massively increase the amount of DRAM. So effectively they're using much much much faster SSDs compared to hard drives to store data that they need quickly, but not quite as quickly. And Mark Cerny talked about on the very high performance SSD in the PlayStation 5 actually being able to stream data to the GPU in real time as the player is looking around a room. I don't know that that

will actually work out in a real actual game, like with the way a player will whip around compared to how you can control those sorts of things in a tech demo, but I'd be excited to see them try. It'd be great. As far as ray tracing performance goes, we really don't know. Microsoft gives peak performance of 380G per sec ray box calculations and 95Gs per second of ray triangle calculations. A 2080 Ti is 11 giga rays per second, but NVIDIA doesn't give peak performance and Microsoft doesn't give typical performance, so we just don't know. And we still don't have concrete details on whether the Xbox Series X will have additional hardware related to machine learning. Now, machine learning upsampling was something that I was pretty skeptical about because I had seen the marketing

for years and years and years about, okay, we're going to do this new anti-aliasing technique that's going to be less expensive. And by expensive, I don't mean price. I mean, in terms of the hardware requirement. So, oh man, okay. How do I explain this really, really quickly? Because I was in the middle of a different thought. When I talk about the cost of a feature, I mean, how much die space it takes up compared to how much performance you could have gotten just by putting more GPU in there. So if you build in some kind of specialized machine learning crap into your GPU, then what it better do is improve performance,

like improve my FPS by 20% while only taking up 10% as much as you would have spent if you had to put 20% more GPU functional units in there. Does that make sense, Luke? Was that a good enough explanation of what I mean by expense? So I've seen it time and time again. Okay, here's an anti-aliasing technique. Okay, there's also the cost in terms of frame rate hit. Okay, it doesn't matter. The point is, I've seen them claim over and over again that we're going to have this feature that makes it so you don't actually have to run it as high resolution. You're still going to get great image quality. Until DLSS 2.0, I didn't believe it.

DLSS 2.0 looks really good. Like really good. While you're gaming, if you're not sitting there nitpicking, and even if you are sitting there nitpicking, it's shockingly convincing. Like NVIDIA has clearly done some crazy work on AI upsampling. We saw it on the latest generation Shield when you're watching 1080p content upscaled to 4K, and we're seeing it in their graphics cards. So we don't know if the Xbox Series X is going to have any hardware related to machine learning like the Tensor cores that NVIDIA uses. But the slides do mention machine learning acceleration. We just don't know if they're just going to run on the CU clusters or whatever else. It'll have HDMI 2.1, so you could

run 120 hertz 4k, assuming you're running like older titles. I doubt there's going to be many games that actually run at 4k 120 hertz unless they're doing some serious machine learning up up sampling and frame interpolation or whatever there's no way it's going to run natively at that and it'll support um h264 and h265 encoding and uh oh wow it'll even do 8k avc so you could you could potentially play 8k content back on the xbox series x that's pretty cool i actually don't know if PS5 does that, but I would assume so based on that they're running, okay, not the same hardware, but the same hardware. It's going to be interesting.

I'm actually like, as with every console launch, I'm really excited for these. Me too. Like, I love that they're getting more and more PC-like. Yeah, I was going to say, I think kind of especially this one, and because of that, there's architecture deep dives every time, essentially. But I don't think they've been this intense.

And I don't think they've been this focused on ways that they're optimizing with this much specificity. And like it's it's it's really cool. They're they're really going like quite the PC route, which with the amount of information that they're releasing. Well, the truth is, I mean, Moore's law has hit us like a ton of bricks in the last five to 10 years. Like it really has. The hardware doesn't just get faster magically. Like Microsoft can't just sit there and expect their next game console in five years to be three times as fast if they just sit on their thumbs and do nothing.

So I think that a lot of these deep dives we're getting are just like, obviously there's a marketing component to it, but I think a lot of the deep dives we're getting are just really great engineers being real super proud of the work that they've done to squeeze the most performance possible out of like really crappy improvements in hardware. Because like AMD's come a long way,

which is a big part of why these new Xbox and PlayStations are going to be faster than the last generation but AMD's improvement has only brought them on par with where Intel was back when the PS4 launched and the Xbox One like let's be realistic here ladies and gentlemen from a gaming standpoint, AMD just caught up. So yes, they're enjoying a big boost in CPU performance, but if they'd been able to afford Intel performance back in the day, they would have already had this performance. Not all of it.

PCI Express 4.0, which is part how the playstation 5 is getting its rip roaring fast ssd well that wasn't there yet but when it comes to just like running you know enemy ai or whatever we were we were basically already there an awful long time ago yeah so that yeah we do have we do have a counterpoint from twitch chat here uh someone who doesn't agree cold starcraft cold starcraft has specifically said that it does get better magically he is of the opinion that it does get better magic so i don't know i think we'd have to talk to the engineers over at amd about that look dude i don't wanna i don't wanna argue with you. Whatever magical technology tree they have. So I won't.

So you know what? That's right. Look, Richard, or should I say, you know, why don't, yeah, why don't you just put that in your pipe and smoke it? Maybe that's why Intel has lost their way. Their like font of magic has just been depleted yeah they're not wearing enough dark eyeliner all right uh what else we got here to talk about actually i think that's most of the big stuff i

really wanted to i really wanted to hit today oh no breaking news r RTX 3090 pictured. Ah, yes. Okay, this comes after leaks were allegedly shown last week. Here, let's throw up my display capture here. RTX, oh, that's in, wait, what? What the crap is, does this even mean? Intel CPU covering the GPU die to hide the information. Okay, so this is, allegedly an rtx uh 3090 oh come on is it really gonna it's really gonna pop out like that i mean get tech power up gosh darn it you guys uh so anyway that is wow look at those three connectors and like we've seen

three pads before but not um like three actual connectors on a reference board yeah yeah that's weird all right the rtx 3090 apparently has a notch right here in the middle of the pci express connector so that's kind of you can you can like probably middle click those or or right click view image or something um all right so source one is video cards. That's okay. We're going to fire up video cards. So apparently the RTX 3090 will be a three slot graphics card, which remember on WAN show

when I got real confused about the reference cooler and I like couldn't figure out how it worked. That's part of it. Because from what I could tell, it just, it didn't make any sense where it was going to be getting air from so this makes well more sense so the fan that's on the other side of what we're

looking at here okay so that's this one and it's going to be blowing out the back panel and then kind of out i guess this way well i don't know i still i'm still a little confused actually because this kind of looks like a divider that would actually block airflow. So, okay. And then this back part here, which presumably is connected with like heat pipes or something to the GPU area, is blowing, here we go, right through the card because it's got this like trippy weird shaped PCB here. So, there you go. Apparently, that's a finished card. It all black it looks sexy as heck i actually i i like it i like it it looks really cool it definitely looks very new and different um i'm really excited for for those videos when they come out yeah because it's

gonna be a really really cool car really cool car to see people dive through can i dampen your enthusiasm a little bit here do you mind is that okay sure because the leaker already leaked pricing um also also leaked pricing so the the leaker specifies pricing thusly writes anthony who put this in the doc for us r RTX 3060, $400. Remember when $400 was a top tier card or like 450, 500 was top tier? RTX 3070, $600. RTX 3080, $800. And I would forgive you for thinking, well, RTX 3090, surely with all these $200 jumps in price, probably going to be a thousand dollars. surely with all these $200 jumps in price, probably going to be a thousand dollars.

RTX 3090, $1,400. Oh boy. Take that middle income earners. Especially if you want to play Flight Sim. That's rough. I think this would be the time where i try to evangelize some of the audience onto uh buying previous generation graphics cards yeah buying second hand last gen chips that ain't a bad idea it's great ain't a bad idea at all honestly i mean we we did the ruthless economy build earlier uh this week, I think, that video went up.

And the reality of it is you just you can't even get close. I think we put a 1070 in there, which conveniently will get you 30 FPS in Flight Simulator 2020 at 1080 high or ultra. Excuse me. We threw a 1070 in there because there just isn't a brand new card you can buy that even gets close to touching that. It's great. Thank you, Mining Craze, for the ample opportunities to buy old cards for cheap. you can buy that even gets close to touching that it's great thank you mining craze for was that ample opportunities to buy old cards for cheap was that the video i don't think so no that wasn't the video with the sunless con ad right no but that was hilarious and you know what we've got

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So SunlessCon is at 929 right now. I want to see that going up by the thousands right now while i'm refreshing this page guys and we're going to do some super chats we're going to do some super chats while we wait okay some people some people in twitch chat were asking for a link so i posted it there thank you i'll post it on floatplane but if you're if you're looking for it through a search it's sunless as in without the uh deadly laser in the sky and then con k-h-a-n i have been watching these videos for an extremely long time they're fantastic i really like his more like uh rocket league uh almost like sa style content um i really

like it when he like okay he's up to 9 30 he's up to 9 30 now okay keep it genuinely really cool content even if you don't play rocket league i'll say that much okay all right so keep it up keep it up guys um let's go through a few super chats uh jack says i'm hammered and i will watch the van show in full tomorrow um thanks for all the content hey tomorrow no longer hammered you subscribe to someone's con yeah exactly um musical aviator says flight sim 2000 in vr would be good yeah i'm sure it would be good except that vr is a great way to tank your frame rate even more so good luck as far as i know that feature is coming though yeah rd says that face when you've been watching LTT for half your life. Oh, dear Lord. The scary part is you could be as old as 24 and that could still be true. Horrible.

Zolan on says going to keep giving you my Google money for skipping your ads until you read my message. Oh, well now now you're going to stop. Dang it. Why did I read that? Luke says, can you do a video on replacing CPU sockets? My many broken socket boards on eBay and it's super easy. The machine to replace them only costs $500. Been doing it for a year and it's fun. You know what? I love it. What a spectacular, what a spectacular idea. I'm going to message the one and only A-Dog, the A-Bomb. message the one and only a dog the a bomb oh dude you can have the most dramatic intro for that too where you like sabotage a socket on a board right and you just get that shock factor and then you fix it how much fun would that be all right let's do it uh unfunk says you got some talented

filmmakers on your staff would you ever let them make a passion project under the lmg banner uh well it wasn't under the lmg banner but david definitely did a a passion project under the LMG banner? Well, it wasn't under the LMG banner, but David definitely did a total passion project review of The Last of Us 2. His channel is Surprise Gaming. Surprise is spelt with a Z and it has an exclamation mark at the end. Surprise Gaming, if you want to check that out. Yeah, we do. It's a real sensitive topic, right?

Because how do you support people's personal development while also making sure that you're not opening, as a YouTuber, like a YouTube company, that's what we are, while not also opening yourself up to just creating this revolving door of people who come in, use you to catapult their own careers,

and then basically springboard off away from you with why I left SourceFed or why I left Linus Media Group or whatever. There's a lot of examples of that on the internet. So we do require people to meet certain requirements. I'm reusing. Oh, sorry. Everyone in YouTube chat apparently asking for more links to SunlessCon.

There you go, guys. There you go. Hitting you up with that. Go ahead. chat apparently asking for more links to sunless con there you go guys there you go hitting you up with that um go ahead um so we do require certain things like that it'd be non-competing so we actually uh except in certain cases don't really allow tech videos because that's sort of directly competing with what we do um we're real cagey about youtube although we allow pretty much anyone who comes to me ahead of time to like twitch stream because it's just not something we're interested in as a business. I just need to make sure there's not an obvious conflict of interest. You know, the last thing I want is to be someone's personal free rental shop

for gear while they're just, you know, making their own channel and really promoting their own interests. You're either on the LMG team or you're not as far as I'm concerned. And when you're on the LMG team, you get all the benefits of being on the LMG team. you're not as far as I'm concerned and when you're on the LMG team you get all the benefits of being on the LMG team and if you're not then you don't. So I just ask that people not compete with what we're doing or if they are they give me first right of refusal. So Taren for example gave me first right of refusal on his ultimate four-hour editing tutorial and I said thank you very much I'm good on that one. I love it as a video concept. I think people are going to watch the crap out of it. And they did. But I

don't see how it fits on the LTT channel. So you go ahead and do that. And in the case of David's video, he came to me, he said, like, look, this is like, it's tough, because it's not tech. So it's tough because it's not tech, so it's definitely not related to LTT, but it is a review of what I effectively see as like a long form cinematic, but a game, not a movie. So it kind of conflicts with Carpool Critics in that sense. And so I said, thank you for bringing this to me. I really appreciate you seeing it that way because that is how i see it as the business owner here um but no i'm good on this one um you go ahead um and so you know it's all about communication and openness and and understanding that we're all on the same team here i don't want to stifle people's creativity and i don't want to stifle their careers either i just can't put myself in a position where i'm being used either um

zachary could i possibly get a shout out for my birthday i'm afraid that won't be possible zachary um if i were to say happy birthday zachary then it would open the floodgates for all kinds of other people to want birthday shout outs so i just i'm afraid i can't do that sorry you're gonna have to buy an ad spot like sunless con we did give him a discount at least if that helps at all we did make him pay though because like there's an opportunity cost there yeah hold on let's check it you're losing money because you don't have a different ad let's check in we're at 931 931 000. Thank you very much, guys. You're helping me out here. We're helping Sunless get more value. More value for his money. What else we got here?

Christopher asks, are you going to do a review of the Blackmagic Atom Mini Pro and utilizing that type of live streaming device? No, I can't say I plan to do that anytime soon. VoodooChild, shout out to my wife, Alana, who probably isn't paying attention until she hears her name sup alana um oh wow this is great david mcnelly says i accidentally went to

ilttstore.com which is a store for toy trains okay i think we figured that out yeah i think i've seen that before yeah okay i can only do a couple more okay i can only do a couple more here i can only do a couple more here um oh isaac smith says is it possible to get the shirts in an inverted color scheme like white i love the shirts want to support not a big fan of black shirts for the summer totally get it we want to do other colors we've been working on an alternate supplier for shirts that would be able to do any color we want. It has been extraordinarily difficult to find anything that meets our quality standards, which are extremely. Basically, I'm a picky mother is what it comes down to.

And I haven't found it yet. And black is the only thing we can get reliably from American apparel, which is really frustrating. So, yeah, we just we don't want to launch shirts and then just have them be out of stock for four months at a time. And we can only get black reliably. So that's where we're at. Deep fried Smurf says, uh, got a replacement water bottle the other day. Thanks so much. Didn't expect it at all. Hey, no problem. No problem. Christian says, I love the SunlessCon ad segment you did.

Which one? Which one? The one I did in the video or the one I did like five minutes ago? Now. Yeah. Robert, you missed everything. You missed everything. Okay. What else we got here?

Okay. Just two more. Two more. Ian Main says, I learned everything I know about computers and how to build my first computer from your videos. You changed me from an Xbox guy to a PC one. Thank you. You're very welcome. And Adrian says, can you make a video about the frequency of RAM?

We have definitely done that. Try does RAM speed matter is a good keyword for that. And you'll find videos from us. Gamers Nexus has definitely done videos about that as well. Oh, that's too bad. There was one really big donation. Someone donated $100 and they sent one message. And then they donated $50 and they sent a different message.

And then it looks like they actually retracted both of them. So I didn't get a chance to address either of them. That's too bad because at least one of them was kind of an interesting topic oh well and that's it thank you very much for tuning in uh this has been a fantastic show actually isn't it nice when there's like a ton of really interesting news to talk about it makes our lives a lot easier and we will see you again same bat time same bat channel lttstore.com goodbye oh wait what leafy got banned really apparently it happened like half an hour ago wait what is this what the hold on a second what now what what's going on dude yeah he's gone leafy is banned this looks like it happened in like the last hour what

what is this really to do with the pokemon drama? It's gotta be, dude. It's gotta be. Because he's done like nothing in so long. Content nuke Pokemon. Video unavailable. This YouTube account has been terminated. Yeah, like he's gone. Suspended.

Big move. What? what wow what's with these like feuds and stuff like how do how do people get like drawn into this stuff apparently someone there here's a tweet from someone. I just went into the Pokemain discord server and typed Leafy in the main chat and was insta banned. LMFAO. Uh, I did a speed run of getting banned on the Pokemain discord. Yeah, that's really, you know, kind of annoying. You probably shouldn't do that. Wow. Wow. Huh. All right.

Huh. Check disk real quick. Oh my goodness. Freaking Keemstar has had pokemane's mods on payroll for months these are the banned words on her discord okay i'm not screen sharing that because i don't even know if it's true and uh additionally like there's some words in there that i don't need in my video. Sorry, what are you messaging me with now? What is this?

What is this stuff? This is off topic, but I think would be a fun ending. No way. Wifey Sauce has her own channel now? What is this? You've got to be kidding me. Wifey Sauce be streaming? I am an OG subscriber of the Wifey Sauce channel. And I just happened to notice that Wifey Sauce was live.

And I think you can't raid. I don't think you can raid on YouTube. Yeah, can you do that? I don't think you can do that. I don't think so. I don't think you can do like a Twitch-style raid through the YouTube system. I don't think you can.

So, verbal raid? Everyone check it out? Yeah, all right, all right. Let's end the show here. I'm going to go ahead and drop a link to Wifey Sauce. Please, we got to hit her with something kind of random, though. So if you could just hold on. Give me one sec, guys.

Don't head over there just yet, please. If you could just all act like you're really interested in where she got those oven mitts, that would be fantastic. I would like there to be so many compliments on those oven mitts that would be fantastic i would like there to be so many compliments on her oven mitts don't tell her where you came from please guys guys you got to be you got to be more subtle than this guys they're they're already talking in the okay guys you come on do i have to explain humor to you oh my goodness like yeah this is not working you guys

are killing me here you guys are killing me here. You guys are killing me. You're actually, my soul, my soul is dying. The entire chat is just full of LTT raid. You guys, I love you guys, but you can't follow instructions. Can't follow instructions. All right. We tried. All right.

We tried. We tried. Thanks for tuning into the show. See y'all later. Keep going for the oven mitts thing. I don't think she's been reading the chat actively. Yeah. all right good stuff sorry henry bennett uh yes we can do more videos in the server space and we don't actually disclose how much our sponsor spots cost like just publicly because it's always changing so then you know you end up getting in trouble

because people are like oh i thought it cost this much it's like yeah well their channel's twice the size it used to be what do you want from us all right see ya bye