The WAN Show - Gamer's GPUs Are Melting - WAN Show October 28, 2022

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

Start using AnyDesk today at http://lmg.gg/AnyDesk Check out the Corsair Voyager A1600 Laptop at https://geni.us/VoyagerWAN Try Zoho One free for 30 days with no credit card required here https://www.zoho.com/one/lp/linus.html Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119) Note: Timing may be off due to sponsor change: 0:00 Chapters 1:26 Intro 1:52 Topic #1 - RTX 4090's 12VHPWR adapters melting 2:50 Paraphrasing Igor's Labs' findings 5:08 Third party connectors, CableMod's instructions 7:34 Linus skips RTX 4000 for his PC, reasoning behind it 10:58 Topic #2 - AMD's Radeon RX 7000 series 11:14 AMD's "Radeon 7xxx" will not feature 12VHPWR 12:36 Linus on the word "left-angle" & adapter orientation 14:38 Luke discusses very old hardware with FP 15:36 LTT's video on increasing performance of AMD GPUs 17:12 Employees replace NVIDIA GPUs with AMD, couldn't tell a difference 18:49 AMD's history with drivers, Linus's experience with AMD 24:02 AMD's Radeon 7000 release, rolling for PCs idea 27:38 Topic #3 - Whether to purchase NCIX domain 28:51 Self-service PC building station 32:28 NCIX domain to expire soon™, LTTStoreNotCom 35:03 Retail V.S.industrial property in Vancouver 38:19 What to do with the domain? NCIX Labs & abbreviations 41:28 FP Poll - Does NCIX sound techie? ft. Turnip, odd suggestions 44:50 YouTube Super Chats still broken, Luke's grammatical mistakes 52:32 Sponsor - Corsair 53:46 Sponsor - Zoho One 54:31 Sponsor - AnyDesk 55:09 Merch Messages #1 55:23 Evolution of technology in classrooms 1:02:58 How are the adopted cats doing? 1:05:42 LTTStore new Blank T-Shirt merch 1:08:31 Explaining the prices of blank & printed t-shirts 1:10:56 LTTStore mystery men sweatpants 1:11:38 Topic #4 - Elon Musk acquires Twitter for $44B 1:13:39 Twitter developers locked out of the code base for auditing 1:15:28 Jack Dorsey's Bluesky, discussing trending on twitter 1:17:06 How much will Twitter change after the acquisition? Dogecoin spiking 1:21:54 Continuing to use Twitter, is the internet ready for ID tokens? 1:24:12 Upsides & downsides of toxicity on Twitter 1:28:10 Topic #5 - Adobe to replace Pantone colors with black 1:29:08 Pantone's subscription, possible workarounds 1:32:36 Creator's Warehouse story, trademarked Canadian Anthem phrase, inflation 1:37:25 Topic #6 - JASCO now works with home assistant via Z-Wave 1:42:34 Topic #7 - Arm to change its business model 1:44:36 Topic #8 - YouTube to separate Shorts & normal videos 1:46:07 Merch Messages #2 1:48:24 Would LMG become a game publisher? Linus on investing 1:55:56 Thoughts on Nebula, Floatplane & Curiosity Stream 2:01:19 How Luke deals with burnout 2:03:42 Would NVIDIA double-down or release a 12VHPWR V2? 2:07:36 Discussing loved or disliked finished games, shows or movies 2:16:32 Advice for studying better against procrastination 2:24:13 What exciting projects is labs working on? 2:26:17 Fun things to do in Vancouver, LTX Expo's distance to the ocean 2:27:52 Favorite sets made for LTT videos 2:29:48 What NCIX stood for in the past 2:31:36 Design & build process for logistics 2:39:47 Piece of media that inspired Luke 2:42:00 Double taking on a birth date in a resume 2:43:43 Any AAA studio would capture Tarkov's magic? 2:44:47 LTTStore CPU design puzzle from videos 2:45:26 What do you feel is getting worse in the tech industry? 2:46:54 To look into YouTube ads further 2:49:23 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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in large part to Igor's lab. So we're going to be talking through what exactly is going on with those 12 pin melting power connectors on the RTX 4090. In other news, Pantone is apparently charging users of creative cloud 15 a month to use colors that they have already used i love the already used part

what else is in the news this week youtube is separating shorts and live streams from long form content on channel pages that's actually like pretty impactful i think could be interesting also should we buy a website should we buy a website really you're not going to give them any more detail than that well i was kind of if we actually name it like someone else might try to get do you want to do that, I'm not too worried about it. Okay, should we buy NCIX.com? There have been conversations. There have been conversations. Let's go ahead and immediately everyone goes from loving the audio

to hating it that's show is brought to you by corsair zoho one and any desk let's jump right into our first big topic of the week yes a growing number of rtx 4090 owners are posting images of their cards melted 12 volt high power connectors let's go ahead and uh here let's pop on to reddit r slash video yeah adapter burned uh whoa oh, oh, no, that looks fine. Yeah, apparently you can re-terminate it. Oh my goodness. That should not be necessary. Nope, okay.

That mega thread apparently was not the right link. Anyway. The main culprit is the adapter that is included in the box with your excessively expensive graphics card. People that have gotten third-party adapters from like Corsair, CableMod, and many others have been having a much better time. I know BeQuiet, I believe,

and a few other brands as well have made some third-party ones. The issue is that NVIDIA is taking four 8-pin connectors, and then even with the smaller gauge wires that they're using compared to the, the, the standard eight pin connectors that are going in, even with these smaller gauge wires,

taking those, like what, what, what, what does that work out to? Eight, 32, 32 pins of,

of wire. And they're trying to bring that all down to these 12 through these 12 pins in the new adapter and they're using this like uh it's really cool igor's lab has great pictures you should head over to igor's labs website um because he'll show you that basically there's two larger contact pads in the middle for uh i forget exactly which pins those are for but but it's like a one-to-one. And then on the outside, there's these like smaller ones. So what happens is if the adapter gets flexed, there's a strong chance that these soldered wires on these pads will actually loosen, weaken or loosen. And then if you guys are familiar with what happens when a connection

loosens, when you have a very, very small point of contact, what can happen is it increases the resistance, which causes the heat to go up, which causes, well, the plastic around it to melt. And according to Igor's lab, this is fundamentally a build quality issue. So it's essentially either cheaping out, which I don't think is likely. I mean, you look at how much NVIDIA's Founders Edition coolers cost, for example. They don't have to make the whole thing out of metal, the shroud and everything. If they were trying to save $0.14, there are certainly other areas where they could have shaved some cost right so it's either them cheaping out or it's down to bad quality control or more realistically igor's labs

believes is down to a bad flawed design that just nobody managed to catch um i guess that's pretty much it isn't it there's really surprisingly not a lot else to add to this the best way to avoid it if you currently are a wealthy person with a 4090 is to get rid of your first party connector and get one of the third party ones there are a bunch of third party options. I have heard that they're actually kind of difficult to get your hands on potentially harder than 4090s, which is kind of funny. But I'm sure the companies that do make them are trying to rush to keep them in stock. So keep your eyes out, try to get one of those cables and you should probably be okay but even with the third-party cables as far as my understanding goes because of cable mods actually

very clear and good instructions i will jump to my screen really quick do not bend it horizontally do not bend it vertically do not bend it at all until you are 35 millimeters away from the connector and that's with their own cable you can see their little branding on the thing so that's even with the better third-party cable um there's there's actually someone online i don't have uh a reference to this unfortunately right now but there's someone online that's offering uh like 3d model files for making a brace oh that makes it come straight out for at least i believe it's actually 35 millimeters that's pretty and then it bends that's pretty smart maybe check and and try to find that

uh potentially if you have the first party or third party cables um but yeah don't bend them in any direction. Small form factor builders, beware. Because, you know. I mean, it's one of those things where in a perfect world, we all would have been able to just use native 12-pin connectors on our GPUs. But because of the sense wires that detect whether it should be operating in 450-watt or 600-watt mode, that detect whether it should be operating in 450 watt or 600 watt mode. There isn't really a way to take a legacy power supply and have it have the full functionality of the 12 volt,

or excuse me, the 12 volt, the 12 pin connector. So we're in a situation where I don't remember a time that we've run into this where you absolutely have to use an adapter. Like, I think there's only one or two power supplies on the market that actually have the 12-volt high-power connector. Yeah. Yeah, not so much of a thing. There's some people in Flowplane chat talking about, like, just don't bend it. Have your power supply outside of your case.

Just run it straight in. Run it in a completely straight line. You know, this is actually a problem for me. I tweeted recently that I was thinking of skipping the 4000 series. Yeah. And the reason for that is actually, well, there are a couple of reasons. Obviously, I'm not skipping because, you know, it doesn't perform well. It's a freaking fast card.

Yeah, sure. I'd love to have a 4090 in my system. Sure, yeah, it sounds great. The issues for me are twofold. One is that I'm a big dumb and I water-cooled my GPU with hardline tubing. Yep. You got to take that one.

Yep, that's pretty dumb because it means that instead of an upgrade taking, like I tell you, I could probably swap a GPU in like 30 seconds if I really had to. Like it's pretty quick for me. Done it a lot of times. Okay. It takes it from maybe a couple minute operation to like a couple hours. I was literally talking within the last week

about how way, way back, you and I tried to kind of push the popularity of like, yeah, have quick disconnects on your GPU so you can swap them quickly. And just no one cared. No. Like immediately after we tried to push that, everyone was like, hard line.

I know. I know. Well well no no i mean you can get that kind of concept in aios now yeah like ek did did aios and the whole idea was that your new gpu would come with with everything pre-attached and you would just click it back in yeah i have no idea how many people actually bought into that concept though i suspect the numbers are extremely low based on how little marketing i've seen around that approach yeah i mean maybe in more like a commercial or like industrial setting or something like that like if i was uh like we oh we've seen it with um let's start camino camino has taken a similar approach where everything is is hot swappable like what we talked about yeah But the cost of quick disconnects is so high

that it just doesn't make sense for the average consumer. By the time you spend that money, you should have bought a better GPU or you should have squirreled it away for an upgrade. For the next one, yeah. But there's another reason. So there are a couple of reasons that I am not planning to upgrade. First of all is the hassle. And the second reason is that i simply do not believe that a 4090 would

fit in my computer yeah and i mean another one with these problems that we're seeing right now would you want to have these risks in a computer that is away from where you are so you might not be able to notice if there's a problem i mean i okay i don't want to be dismissive of risk obviously a fire is a really really bad thing but i don't think there's a whole lot to burn near where my gpu yeah that's probably fair enough like there's there's the top of the because you're in a rack. It's all metal. It's in a metal rack. It's like three feet away from any wall on either side. It's probably just going to burn itself. Like if it burned some plastic inside the computer,

I suspect that that would stay quite contained. Yeah, that makes sense. And to be clear, I'm not saying that you should never worry about a fire in your computer. There have been instances, particularly with those older, remember those acrylic cases that were kind of popular in the early 2000s? Acrylic is a fairly flammable material, actually. And there were some cases where, cases caught on fire. And you do not want to have something like that, like Luke said, away from you. But no, for me, the bigger problem is that I'm using a 4U rack mount case,

which is only about this much taller. So you have to crank the cables. I would have to. So you're like 8-pin only. Yeah. Fortunately, AMD has come out and confirmed that Radeon 7000 series, which is hilariously the second Radeon 7000 series, which is hilariously

the second Radeon 7000 series. This is the RX 7000 series, not to be confused with the HD 7000 series. Like, really? Really, you guys? Come on. I mean, between

AMD, okay, remember when they released the 470 and 480? When it wasn't even that long after Nvidia had had a 470 and 480? Then they go and they change gears again. They're like, no, let's go back to numbers that we already used. This is hitting me a little bit because... This is the third generation of Radeon 7000s. I was talking...

Wait. There was the original Radeion 7000s i i was talking wait there was the original radion 7000 oh my goodness yeah i didn't even think about that there are three three radion 7000s how am i supposed to google information about these things uh someone in full plane shots a cable mod is making a 90 degree adapter i i also read that they're making a 180 which is i'm assuming just a double turn the other way yeah yeah yeah which is pretty sweet yeah left angle and right angle yeah yeah yeah that's an actual term left angle yeah it means the opposite of whatever the right angle version of that thing is yeah i only became familiar with that uh as a product manager at ncix when i was i was skewing like um oh what was the card i think it was nvidia's 400 series not

to be confused with amd's 400 series uh nvidia's 400 series had that little wimpy mini hdmi do you remember the one yeah yeah and so in order to use that with some cases that didn't have great clearance around the top of the pci slot you needed a little right angle adapter and so i was skewing up an alternate left angle one for like inverted cases i i don't remember why it needed to exist but i was like skewing up these two items. I was like, how do I differentiate these? And one of the other product managers had to be like, oh, yeah, yeah. So right angle is like that.

And then left angle is that way. I'm like, uh, okay. I will remember that forever. Yeah. And I did. To be clear, left angle is only like a terminology that we used to differentiate the right angled adapter from one that goes completely the opposite way and cable mods 90 degrees and 180 degrees

honestly better ish i mean it's not really even because 90 degrees which way 90 degrees down 90 degrees up it is down it's down i honestly just assumed it was two bends i never saw the example so i assumed it was like oh it'll bring it all the way around no it would just be it would go the other way so it'd be a left angle adapter yeah yeah that makes sense i you were talking about 7 000 series graphics yeah left angle sata cables people are talking about those too this is very similar to oh hi rod so they go up this is very similar to a conversation i was having with a floatplane person uh earlier this week when they were talking about like how ancient some piece of hardware that they had was and we so we just had christmas party 10th anniversary of the company that okay we've been doing this for

10 years didn't really hit me because time frames sometimes don't hit that hard he was talking about this ancient piece of technology that he was still running that was one of the first processors that i reviewed when i started working here and i was like whoa it has been a long time wow okay yeah and hd 7000 series was something we were mainlining on test benches. Yep. Relatively early on. Back in the day. Yeah. Yeah.

It's been hilarious. But yeah, this is a, it's a, it's a bit of a spicy meatball. Yeah. I don't think it's a bad idea to skip. I don't think you're in the wrong.

And I'm, I don't think I'm huffing copium. I think I'm pretty excited for AMD's new releases. We shot a video actually in the moments before I came over here to sit down and do WAN show that is pretty much a re-examination of AMD's current cards in the context of a really cool tool

that we're going to be talking about that can help squeeze extra performance out of them with no cost of extra power consumption cool um so kind of like what people are doing with uh undervolting on the geforce 40 series or with the latest cpus and you know what they are in such good shape right now that if our DNA3 is as much betterer as it looks like it might be, and if AMD manages to leverage any cost savings that they're gaining from their multi-die approach,

to be clear, I don't think any of the GPU's actual functional units are on that separate die, if I recall correctly. It's like an IO die or something. Don't quote me on any of that. But anything that they can do to reduce the size of the main die, from what we've seen with Ryzen, could result in very, very competitive costs, which, if they decide to be aggressive, and if they decide to attack NVIDIAvidia hard could mean a return to actual competition with intel being the also ran yeah be pretty sick i'm excited man i'm excited the the the 6700 xt is pretty competitive with the 3070 at over a hundred dollars on average, and the 6800 XT is darn competitive with the 3080

at like $200 less, it's gonna be a pretty exciting time. Yeah, for real. And the most important thing that we took away from this video, two of our writers, Daily Gamers, took home Radeon cards while I was in Hawaii. I was not informed.

Took home Radeon cards. We're using them for a couple of weeks now. So it was actually a little bit before that, I guess. And the idea behind it was that they would just game as normal and at least one of them had had just awful experiences

gaming with AMD cards in the past. Everything from crashes to poor performance to visual artifacts. And the idea was okay, just want to use it. Just live with it. And it was Alex actually who said truthfully

he replaced his 3080, which he got as part of Intel Extreme Tech upgrade, and then completely forgot he was doing the challenge. That's good. Didn't even readjust any in-game settings when launching a new game, nothing like that, just forgot until he came into work today because up until yesterday he was working on that choose your own adventure random build so he wasn't really like thinking about this sat down

looked at the script and went oh crap like one of the cards is like in my computer at home like he just forgot about it that's cool that's good that is such a good thing. Yeah. That's amazing. That's awesome. And like, it's one of those things where you got to forgive me, right? Okay. AMD said earlier this year that they did a significant rewrite of their DirectX 11 drivers. Better performance, better stability, better everything. I have heard it so many times. I mean, remember, what was it? Remember Crimson Drivers?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Crimson Drivers, remember, what was it? Remember Crimson Drivers? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Crimson Drivers. AMD, when was that? Okay, I want to remember the news. What were the Crimson Drivers? 2002? No.

No, no, no, no. That's a different date. Here, let me... It's AMD Radeon Software Suite. I'll put news in the thing. Maybe they... Do they still call them Crimson? I don't even remember

the number of times okay that amd has tried to pull me onto a conference call or do a presentation about how no really our drivers are like better this time i i just i just don't care anymore i just tune it out because it was not relevant 2016 2016, someone's saying. Is that right? I think that lines up. Because we still had so many problems. Do you remember when, I think you were in the middle of like, was it like Scrapyard Wars

or like a review of a CPU or something? And I basically came in, this was at the old house and I like came into the bench den and I was like do not put another AMD card on a test bench because it had like it had delayed that day's shoot for the umpteenth f***ing time to the point where like someone was gonna have to stay three hours late after work because we were getting like weird crashing or odd behavior and we were so committed like we couldn't just rip it out and retest everything so we had to power through it because we were getting weird crashing or odd behavior, and we were so committed.

We couldn't just rip it out and retest everything, so we had to power through it, and I was just so tired of it. I have some vague memory of this. Someone said Crimson released November 2015. Yeah, Crimson was definitely one of them. You know what? Maybe it was a step forward. I don't care. It was not even close to good enough yeah not even close

and they had this whole presentation that they sent me about how much better it was this time and all the qa they were doing i don't so you'll have to forgive me when i've heard something enough times and it's been untrue every single time i stopped believing it so i stopped believing it and you know it's part of my job is to be open-minded. So I should have been more open-minded this time around, given it a shot. And you know what? Maybe after we're done the ARK challenge,

maybe we should do an AMD challenge. Just roll right into AMD challenge? Yeah. I'm down. Because, like, honestly, that was what inspired Alex to do this. The ARK challenge? It was when we did the stream, testing random games that the viewers suggested to us on ARK.

And what he found as part of both the review and that challenge was that every test that Intel failed, AMD was fine. And so he's like prepping for this video. He's like, hold on a minute. This is not how I remember this going. Yeah. What is happening here?

And it's funny because with this update, I feel like they're actually being quieter about it than they have with things like Crimson. Yeah. Well, they had nothing to talk about back then. I mean, that's fair. It's like, want to buy our third effort rebadging this card again?

The drivers are cool, we swear. So, yeah, maybe that's it. But I'm not hearing a lot about it. Maybe they're waiting for the launch of the new gpus and then they're going to hit it harder but yeah i wouldn't be surprised to see that they've got some exciting new features that they're going to go live with and part of amd's brand has been to go a little harder on backwards compatibility compared to nvidia nvidia has been pretty what would the word be unabashed about just saying hey yeah no you have to buy the newest feature if you want to use this you know whether it's the the noise suppression

mic suppression background noise thing or whether it's dlss3 and to be clear i get it sometimes nvidia has gone good guy launched the feature with the new cards, where obviously the majority of the software development was focused, and then rolled it out to previous generations over time. I get it. Software development takes time. I feel very known right now i get it i get it um but i amd has generally tried to to take a more um backwards compatible approach i feel to new features sometimes to their detriment where like it just isn't very good yeah it doesn't work very well and maybe it could have been better and worked better if they had stayed a little more more focused. But that's neither here nor there. The bottom line is that the news is looking pretty good for the upcoming RX 7000 launch,

not to be confused with the HD 7000 or Radeon 7000. Do we wait to do the AMD iSwitch challenge thing for 7000 yeah 7 000 yeah well we'll have to because i believe the announcement is coming like soonish oh or something yeah yeah so we should have a lot more details on them soon and i think if we don't arc challenge for at least a month that's not gonna really be that meaningful so and yes apparently we do have enough arc cards kicking around that even though i am selling one for a dollar, that was the result of the stream yesterday, even though I'm selling one for a dollar,

we will have enough left for us to do the ARC challenge, apparently. I won't give too many details, by the way. We weren't able to do a verified actual gamer program thing for it because we didn't have enough time at all. We were told like one business day well i came up with it like on set no that's cool but there is another thing that we're doing i won't say what it is oh for for selling the pc yeah oh cool but there's like a fun thing okay i don't want yeah i don't want to like prep anyone so that's exciting but okay yeah i'm looking forward to it conrad had

some stuff already partially whipped up So we just like I'd love to do stuff like this more often You know what would be really cool Is if instead of building the PC So people know what they're buying We go full gambling mode You buy it and then it gets rolled And then it gets rolled

Oh that's actually So maybe we could have like Three buyers They'd have to be local or something like that So that they can actually be there Oh, that's actually... So maybe we could have like three buyers. Yeah. They'd have to be local or something like that so that they can actually be there. Or like they do the roles and then I build their computer.

But like we pre-negotiate the price. So they see everything that's on the table, right? Oh, man. Oh, there could be an element of like strategy to it as well. So you could decide whether you want to go. So if you buy first, maybe the price is higher. So it's like a thousand dollars if you get to roll first. But if you roll second, everything from the first PC will be gone.

You could pull in like a lower amount or something like that. You could pull in potentially some interesting like dice game mechanics. Yeah, like competing dice game mechanics. So can do something to re-roll one die but then i could also do stuff to try to beat them and there's like roll with advantage or roll with disadvantage so you could roll two dice and they get the higher of the two yes or you could roll two dice and get the lower of the two i think this could be really fun you should make it so that they can mess with each other or help each other. I am liking this. But in a nutshell,

they see all the parts that are available and then the price is the price and they decide, okay, I'm ready to go for it. So it wouldn't be a dollar. There could be a way to lose. The price is $1,000 or something like that. So it's like, so it wouldn't be a dollar. Like there could, there could be a way to lose. Oh yeah.

Like the price is a thousand dollars or something like that, but there's a chance. Probably a pretty good one. There's a chance they could end up with a $3,000 computer. But if I get my way, they might also, they end up with a wish PC. Like,

well, yeah, $300, you know, compact, you know, core two Quad machine. Oh, no.

I'm excited. Also, for stuff like that, we can 100% get the verified actual gamer program thing going again. It's just with the new theme, it wasn't, like, ready. Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I get it. Man, that would be a lot of fun. That'd be a lot of fun.

That sounds very entertaining. Speaking of a lot of fun, should we talk about the domain? Yeah, yeah, I think we should. I was just, I don't remember why I actually was thinking about it, but it's pretty clear that the NCIX Tech Tips YouTube channel is parked. Pretty clear nothing's going to happen with it.

It's pretty clear at this point that the value of NCIX.com, which nobody is doing anything with, has reached a low. Like, to be clear, it's still a four-letter domain, but it's one that doesn't mean anything to anyone, I don't think. And so I was just like sitting, noodling. I forget what I was talking about. Oh, yeah, right.

I was brainstorming with Nick about LTTstore.com, the retail store. We were kind of kicking ideas back and forth for things that it could be other than just a merch store. You know, do we have a small LAN center? Do we have a small land center do we do have a pc service desk do we sell actual computer components there as well or like like what what could we do to make this less of like just merch and more of like a retail experience, right? Could we do PC building sessions? Like one of the ideas I came up with is you have like a service desk

and you could have industry standard rates. So like, you know, yeah, it's 50 bucks to install RAM. And the truth is there's actually a reason for that. Yes, installing RAM takes 30 seconds, but doing all the paperwork, installing the RAM, testing the RAM to make sure that it actually works, and potentially troubleshooting whatever it is, packing everything back up. So, so nice, so nice for you. And putting it away and then dealing with you when you come to pick it up. No, it like takes time.

So there's a reason that the minimum charge for things is typically an hour. It's because it just takes time. But I had a really cool idea. What if it was 50 bucks if we do it for you, but we also have some counters with tools changed to them. And if you want to do it yourself, you can just pay like 10 bucks. And if you have any trouble, we're not going to do it for you like we'll have a no touch policy you you do it but we'll have like we'll have screens there with videos that you can like pull up and you can just

do it yourself and if you run into any trouble we will help correct it for you or we'll give you advice and it's like a place to hang out and work on your computer i don't know how you would deal with theft with this i i know you just said change tools i'm not talking about that um but one of my things is if i if i ever like built if i'm building a computer for like a friend or like a family member or whatever i know where you're going with this i bring them here yep i don't do it at home not because there's more screwdrivers here there's there are parts here so if something's wrong i can swap something out or do whatever it's a lot easier to diagnose like is my power supply the problem if you just grab a power supply that is known good put it in the thing works and you're like okay well yeah then it's your power supply

having parts that you can do that if your computer's messed up at home and you can't figure it out and you can just bring it in do some stuff that you can do that. If your computer's messed up at home and you can't figure it out and you can just bring it in and do some stuff, that would be sweet. That would be super cool. If I didn't have access to this, I would pay for that service. You know what?

I used to go and work on my computer at NCI. I'm amazed they hired me. I was a pain in the ass customer. I would just borrow stuff from the tech department and like people just stopped telling me no at a certain point because i i would be in their store for like three four hours at a time like my high school girlfriend hated going to ncix with me because i would never just go in and buy something yeah like i'd always go and i'd waffle and i'd check the stock and i'd check the site and I'd use their computer terminals and like

read reviews and like when I would bring my computer in because I was having a problem with it I would like I would like buy a board and I would put it in right there to make sure that it was going to solve the problem because I needed parts to swap out yeah I think that would be amazing though and I don't again I don't know how you do that security wise or whatever like maybe you have to like check out components yeah no you just do that security-wise or whatever. Maybe you have to check out components. Yeah, you just do it. You just take people's ID. You take some kind of collateral.

I think that wouldn't be a huge problem. And to be clear, the kinds of parts that you would loan people, you wouldn't loan someone a 4090. So if I take your ID and I give you a GT730, so you can find out if your PCIe slot works. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that would be so cool. I think that would be sweet. you like a gt730 so you can find out if it's just ie slot works yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah that would be a man that would be so i think that would be sweet i i would like that a lot yeah uh so the domain expires um january 29th really i don't know if you knew that. Oh, maybe I just shouldn't say anything then.

I'm sure they'll renew. It's probably set up on auto renew. Probably. Yeah, because so my understanding is it's actually still owned by the owner of NCIX. How that happened through the bankruptcy. Wait. I have no idea. Not, whoa.

Yeah. You mean like like dumped the ip out of the company and then held that personally in a company that the creditors somehow were not able to access whoa yeah so i i theoretically yeah it's a text message away. Yeah. Like I've, I've got them on WhatsApp and WeChat or whatever. So like, theoretically I could make an offer. I mean, theoretically anyone could make an offer by all means go, go ahead and like bid, but it's dumb because if it's not cheap, I'm just not going to buy it. And then you're going to buy it and do what? Nothing.

Yeah, exactly. So it's like, I'm, I'm honestly not worried about someone coming in and trying to snipe it because this is more just like idle idle theory crafting oh wouldn't it be funny if like april fools or something like that we redirected every uh every request yeah the forum is now under ncix.com ncix.com slash forums. We've gone full circle, boys. We try to like, not too aggressively, but we do a mild skin to make it somewhat look like the

NCIX forums from back in the day. It's like four people get the joke. That would be sick. Cam would get the joke. Deathhawk would get the joke. Let's go. SkyMTL would get the joke. okay? Let's go. Sky MTL would get the joke. Yes, yeah, yeah.

There's a handful of cool people who would get it, so I would be down. I would be super down. But that was what got me thinking about it, was we were talking about alternate ideas for LTTStore.com that could make it a bigger experience, and one of them was, of course, well, computer hardware retail. Why wouldn't we? and i was like man well you know what would that look like we've joked about it so much over the years but like do i go from working at ncix.com

making videos on the side to making videos and running ncix.com on the side yeah because like i the more I sit here thinking about it, the more I like making the dream area to hang out for younger Linus. If you had funnels and other stuff so that if someone wanted to do water cooling setup, some of the... Getting into cutters is a little sketchy but like maybe they signed something i don't know but like tube cutters and funnels and all these little type of things so they could get into like water cooling more easily um yeah like some like a like a maker space but specifically

for like pc building and water cooling and stuff yeah that would be super awesome. It'd be pretty sweet. I feel like that would be a very different building zoning code, you know, than retail. So that might be a completely different... Would you be okay if retail is also there? Well, it depends. It depends if the city is okay. Okay. Because retail zoning is much more expensive than... And like a makerspace sounds like it'd be more

like a commercial or not not a commercial more like something you could do in an industrial zoning because it all comes down to like access and parking and you know making sure that cities are laid out in sort of a sensible manner so you don't just have like you know walmart and then like uh you know go-kart place and then like an apartment and they're just like what is this neighborhood i don't even understand you know so you have like shopping centers yeah yeah stuff like that right and industrial zones uh on the one okay i i see it both ways aldonte over in in Float Plane Chat says zoning is stupid. You're 100% right. Zoning is an artificial construct that is designed to favor certain landowners and disadvantage others, especially prospective landowners when it comes to residential zoning.

It's extremely frustrating the amount of nimbyism that is preventing areas like my hometown of Vancouver from building enough freaking housing, even though there is plenty of land. We are built, I forget what the terminology is. We're built out, but we are not built up.

Yeah. But there's a ton of resistance to building up that is making it frustratingly difficult for anyone gen millennial or below yeah to actually get into the housing market we uh i will give no further context to this because i think it'll be funny that way not because there's any other actual reason uh but my team and i were recently in a float plane over Vancouver, looking down on Vancouver,

and one of my main thoughts was like, what the hell? What is going on here? Like, there's gigantic tower, and like right near the water, city center, all that type of stuff, there's huge tower, and then a bunch of single-story buildings. It's like, how does that possibly make any sense? Houston is apparently

uh zoning free and there's good things about it because it means better flexibility i guess but people are talking about like yeah you could theoretically have a chemical plant yeah right next to a residential area that's all wacky so i see both sides is what i'm trying to say yeah yeah yeah back to ncix.com though what would we do with it yeah my my idea before the show was just the like anytime we basically needed a meme domain you just like throw it as a slash or subdomain on ncx.com uh like a conversation that came up when we did those pop-ups was where do we put the like cad store because we needed a cad store just for the pop-ups cad is in canadian dollar um and i don't even remember what we ended up using i think it was like ltd pop-up.com or something but we could have just used that which would have been pretty funny um floatplane chat wants the lab to be called ncx labs

that'd be hilarious that would actually be pretty funny yeah i mean that's that's kind of that's kind of a cool idea once again it's something that i don't think has any value to anyone except me so i'm not too worried about getting into a bidding war over it, but like, I, that's the thing I'd have to find if it was just a meme, it's a four letter domain.

Like it is going to cost over $10,000. Like this is a significant outlay no matter how we slice it at this point. So I would have to have a justification for it other than like april fools one year you know yeah and if it was the labs website yeah i could i could get behind that i don't know what it would i don't know what it would uh stand for i've been sitting here trying to think of network computer interface x labs or i don't know because then yeah Because then you'd want labs in the domain. And I wouldn't want to do that. That's stupid.

Do you want labs in the domain? Does it matter? If it was part of the actual name, then yeah, I think I would. So I don't think I would do that. And besides, if I were to do that, then I would have to acquire the trademark anyway. Even if someone owned NCIX Labs, they would be, they would have a hard time defending it. I think if I try to remove my memory

of it being a computer store, it still sounds kind of technical. NCIX, it's like, da, da, da, da. Yeah, well, I mean, I think it's, I think we'd have to hear from other people like do you guys think ncix.com sounds technological i'm especially interested uh europeans yeah people who didn't necessarily know what it was like people who are watchers since way after that yeah basically but i mean maybe that doesn't matter maybe maybe through our presence and and and youtube and everything maybe we created an association with technology

a lot of people okay people are talking about ncis that show i remember occasionally i would meet people and say i worked at ncix they'd be like, whoa, you work in TV? Not yet. Okay, yeah. I don't watch enough TV, so I didn't really put that together, but that makes sense. How do I do polls again? Dang it. I can't remember.

It's just... Right, it's here. Yeah, yeah, I found it. Okay, I'm going to do a float plane poll. Does NCIX sound techie? Yes, no, and just for fun, just for fun, okay? Throwback, throwback option. We're going to do a five-minute pull here.

All right. Someone said, not completely intentional experiments. That's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. Yep. Network, computer interface, et cetera. Oh, no, that was the thing I said. Turnip makes a return. Show the results.

Okay, what are we looking at here? Does NCIX sound techie? 55% say yes. 10% say no. And 35% vote for turnip i mean it often is the best option it is yeah i did i will admit i i voted for turnip dang it luke you're not supposed to even vote you're you know you're biased useless can't believe you All the data's off now. Yeah, you've corrupted it. What about Turnip Labs? It's tainted, Turnip Labs.

Is that available? Turniplabs.com Labs.ncx.com? That actually sounds kind of cool. Turnip Labs is taken! No, no. But we might be able to broker a deal. Whatever. That's basically where you hand GoDaddy $90 and they send an email.

Yeah, one time. Jerks. Oh, sorry. What was something? You said something while I was looking up turnips. Someone in floatplane chat mentioned, and I actually kind of like it, labs.ncx.com.

Sounds better than ncixlabs.com yeah yeah I don't like someone in floatplane chat apparently bought ncixlabs.com I don't know why yeah I don't think that's the ticket yeah I don't think that's it yeah my girlfriend says it

sounds like a cheap version of ncis jayden suggests labs.ncix.website heavens no let's go and this guy works here ah go good what was that weird domain we saw when we were driving and i was like what the heck is that i've never heard of that before and then we looked it up and it was supposed to be like a dot-com replacement but neither of us had ever heard of it before i don't do you remember this i remember the interaction but i don't remember so weird i don't remember why yeah there's some there's some

really wild top level domains like not even not even wild like her her it's it's all it's for it's for uh you know adult content or like not like that but just it's really weird why would anyone want that yeah can't even imagine it ncx.tv i believe was registered by ncix back in the day because we weren't sure if nIX Tech Tips would have... Nope, apparently it's available. Well, it was. I believe it was at some point. I could be wrong about that,

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The apostrophe in the title is in the wrong place thorn is correct uh for an s it should be after the s and then the second s is optional i checked i checked that with luke yeah yeah but i'm bad at that i had a console that was your first mistake yeah no you shouldn't have checked with darn it yeah do you know how many grammar mistakes i have fixed for luke over the years you know i so i used to get an incredibly bad grade in English because my teacher, when I first got to high school, would reduce your mark by a fixed amount for every grammar mistake infinitely. Yeah, I had one of those. So I would just get like zeros on papers because I just can't. I've always been really bad with punctuation. because I just can't.

I've always been really bad with punctuation. And then I got a new teacher in grade 11 who capped the amount that you would lose from like punctuation mistakes. And I immediately went from almost failing to like an A or A plus. And then I went into AP English and maintained an A or A plus because that teacher also had a fixed cap

on grammar or punctuation reduction. That's hilarious. So I would lose the punctuation reduction and then ace everything else and maintain a good grade. It's like, okay, I've never figured it out. I don't know why. I was the opposite way. Up until grade 10, I had just slack English teachers, like just the easiest English teachers. I had this one in grade nine that would literally leave the classroom for like 20 minutes at a time, like go down to the

cafeteria, sample whatever was coming for lunch, come back, like eating it and being like, you guys still reading? Okay. Like, honestly, not even joking. And then I went into grade 11 and 12 with just a brutal taskmaster English teacher. If you had a single period, apostrophe, comma, semicolon, colon, capital, single grammatical error. You know, I still remember the day he said, if you ever, because we, part of our, part of our curriculum, it was AP, part of our curriculum was the King James Bible. Not because he was Christian or anything. He just felt that as a literary work, you should have cracked it open at some point.. Yeah. And he went on this like 20 minute spiel about how prophesize is not a word. One prophesize.

And we were like, really? Like, yes, look it up. If you ever write the word prophesize, I will give you a zero. And like,

we believed him. He would take off 0.5 out of 10 for every single minor error, no matter how small. I'm talking like, I would've got a zero in that class. I'm talking a double space. I'm talking a double space on like a, on a word process document,

like minus 0.5. Yeah. And you know what though? He turned me into what I am now, which is, he created a demon. Having an eye... Well, Luke has sat with me while I have critiqued grammar, punctuation, and flow.

And the reason that I am, I think, pretty good at it now is that he would have us grade each other, and then if there was anything wrong it would be deducted from both of us oh so if i missed something even if my paper was perfect that's interesting if i missed something on my that actually kind of makes sense i would lose part of my grade i had to grade accurately yeah that does actually kind of make sense if you want to learn how to be an editor yeah i remember in some of the when it when you had to do stuff quickly um it got to the point where you knew i was just like

fine if you just changed things like that so you just like yeah it's just like yeah it's whatever uh steven in youtube chat says what a whack teacher language is fluid no it's not um it is but it's not in the same way that art is fluid. Written is a lot, like verbal is quite fluid. Well, no, no. Okay. So it is and it's not. So you can, anything is art, but without a foundational understanding of how, of the structure of art, you can't just go inventing your own rules that's

why when you just like huck paint at at a at a canvas that's not necessarily like good art whereas if someone else does it well they've they've demonstrated it could be good art it could be it could be uh whatever whatever it is they're expressing. Basically, what I'm saying is you have to walk before you can run. You have to understand the structure of the language before you can start to make up your own rules and make up your own structure. And what I'm describing is what? Okay, I'm not even reading that chat anymore.

See you later. We're back to the document. So yeah, language will change and it will evolve over time. But if you want to write poetry, if you want to take artistic license, right, then you have to understand what rules you're breaking. So breaking the rules should be something that you do with intent. It should have a meaning. If it has no meaning, then you're just throwing words on a page. So that's how, that's my, that's my take on it. Um,

oh man, no studying English past the point of fluency is not a waste of time. User 4675. I guarantee you any media that you enjoy was created by people who have studied past the point of fluency. I'm talking like film, novels, TV. All right. Anyway, let's go ahead and move on to our next topic, Shelby. Might be a good time for me to interrupt here. I think some of the bad audio might be due to noise suppression. So if you give me a second here, I'm just going to try and disable that. We're testing things.

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Learn more about AnyDesk's free personal solution and business subscription plans at the link down below. Should we talk about it? Or merge messages? Well, we could do a couple of those. Yeah. Sure, hit us with a couple of those. Let's do two. Exactly two. All right, exactly two. Where do they go? G'day, Lake and Linus. I'm a high

school teacher in Sydney, Australia, and very curious if you guys over there are suffering from huge teacher shortages like we are here. Also, how do you see tech in the classroom evolving in the future? Keep up the great content. You know, that's an interesting question. How do I see tech evolving in the classroom? I confess I hadn't really thought about it until I had kids, and I walked into a classroom

and I was like, there's no overhead projector. Oh, yeah. Obviously, that would be stupid uh for for the youngins out there an overhead projector uh was this uh light box essentially that had a writing surface over the top with a roll of of plastic like a plastic sheet roll that would roll you'd you'd have like a used side on one side. So you'd roll it up and then fresh ones would come over top. Um,

and the teacher would have like a, a, a wet erase pen. So they could write on this, on the sheet of plastic. And then, so the light shines from the bottom and then you've got this sheet and then it would go into,

uh, a mirror that is a little more complicated than just this because i think it would have to flip it the other way around or whatever but it would go into a mirror lens system that would shine it at a projector screen on the wall obviously that would be phenomenally stupid in the age of we have much better things cheap better projectors smart boards i mean even whiteboards right like i i don't think i saw a whiteboard in school it was all chalkboards yeah pretty much um so i confess it's been a while since we've been in school it's not something that i've thought about a lot yeah i mean we've already seen a lot of

evolution in in teaching you know whether it's chromebooks in the schools um i i donated my i donated a couple of my original vr headsets to my old computer teacher um because he was still he was still teaching um he's a principal now but I was assuming that he could get them into the right hands, whatever. Because I wanted him to be able to have that in the classroom for people that aren't necessarily able to get VR headsets at home. Yeah, sure. Are they the perfect experience? This was quite a few years ago, so they were a little bit more recent at the time. But are they like the newest and greatest thing ever?

No, but it can show you the fundamentals of VR and what's going on. Uh, and they apparently had a computer that was good enough to power them. So like very cool. Um, but I don't know how common that is. I hope there's like 3d printing options and stuff in schools. Yeah.

I feel like that's a pretty important thing to learn if you're growing up. They definitely do do some, uh, like at my kid's school, they definitely do some coding, like introductory my kid's school they definitely do some coding like introductory stuff basic modeling yeah i i mean honestly i do think that in general school could spend a lot more time on practical skills i think this is going to end up being a much much longer conversation i think that most people will never need even math 8 um because the reality of it is like and you can say

like well how are you going to how are you going to do your taxes most people don't most people just give money to the monopoly um the the tax software monopoly which is a very interesting rabbit hole by the way oh it's horrible yeah. Yeah, if you want to look into it and how they became the monopolistic tax software behemoth that they are, absolutely fascinating rabbit hole. Which is also the answer to why doing your taxes is so bad. Yeah. Yeah, they're horrible.

Anyway, you know, like, yeah, I would love if people were given more practical educations. And I know that in some places they do that. Like, I think it's not because like one is better than the other necessarily in fact at least here in in in bc trades often get paid more than white collar work and faster and and way faster because they are so in demand the like career career towards retirement and then like moving into retirement stage process for a lot of trade skills especially around here is like faster and more stable yeah frugivore says as my grandpa says learning is not about the contents about learning how to learn for the future and that's true but i feel like at least when i went through a lot of what we learned was not super applicable

to what we were going to do in our lives. And while we did learn to learn, we didn't learn to learn necessarily the things that we needed to learn. Like it was, you could easily have made it all the way through my high school, never having been hands-on with anything. Now I took classes that were outside of my comfort zone. I did it on purpose. I took metal art and jewelry. I took technology, which taught us, we did a bunch of really cool projects. jewelry. I took technology, which taught us, uh, we did a bunch of really cool projects. We had a, like a paper plane optimization unit that we did. We did a, um, that's sweet. Uh, we did a unit on how home electrical wiring, like how to do house wiring. Uh, we did a unit where we built our own submarine. So, uh, it had to have, uh, six degrees of freedom. Uh. And so we had a tether, obviously,

because we couldn't send wireless signals underwater. But part of the test was you had to achieve neutral buoyancy. And then you had to be able to navigate up and down, forward and back, left and right to get to some target. So I did technology. I did auto shop. And I think you've known me long enough to know that. That went really well well that ain't my

thing i got a good grade like i got a good i'm a good student but like i was not interested you know what that's when i started swearing autoshop i did not use cuss words until i took shop in grade i think grade 10 like at all like the first time i i dropped like a like a damn literally heads turned like i was like i was that kid that's pretty funny um kurt says you dropped out so school didn't work for you you found your way but don't knock stuff that you understand what are you even talking about what uh i did not drop out of high school i graduated high school with excellent grades i got into the university of british columbia very comfortably uh i did not last in university there's a lot of a lot of reasons for that but um no i was a i was a good student and it's important to learn a variety of things,

but that's exactly what I'm talking about. Every one of those classes that I just listed was an elective. And so if you chose not to, you could totally go through having only ever looked at books. And I don't think that just one or just the other is acceptable. That's what I'm trying to say. And there. No, that's what I'm trying to say. That's it. Yeah, yeah. What were we talking about?

I forget what the question even was. Teacher, education, technology in schools. Oh, yeah. More. Because that's basically the way the world's going. Yeah, yeah. You want another one? Sure, one more.

All right, this one's from Christopher. Fingers crossed for the screwdriver comes with the default bit set. Thanks for being the reason I built my first computer and teaching everybody so much. Wanted to ask how the cats are going since we adopted one ourselves. Curate this, you coward,

and I'll sub to float plane. Yeah, let's go. Okay, yeah, fair enough. and I'll sub to float plane. Yeah! And let's go. Okay. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, it's not my choice. It's on Dan, who didn't cower it out. The cats are going great.

We, well, okay. So Dash, the cat we had before, she's not stoked. And she became a happier cat when her brother died, like by a long shot. She's put on weight, which apparently can be like a stress eating thing.

It's about like being worried that there won't be enough. So they like- Oh yeah, that makes sense. Just stuff their face. Yeah. So she's put on a significant amount of weight, even though they have not actually been in the same areas yet.

She just knows they're there. They still haven't? Well, okay. They have as of a couple of days ago, but she had gained weight before that yeah and we did kind of bring them out and show them to her a little bit you know like she she gave them she gave them the business they're super nice we think they grew up in like a wild cat colony so they've seen lots of different cats but she hasn't seen another cat in like a couple of years right yeah cats are not like people like back when we had the bangles um rocket got out for i think it was like a month

or two like he was gone for quite some time and when he came back they hissed at each other, even though they were littermates. They figured it out eventually, but cats, like, forget, right? Yeah. And so we're a little worried that even if she does eventually tolerate their presence, she might not be happy, and so we're not really sure how to deal with that. Yeah, that's an interesting one.

The other two are, one of them is settling in really well super sociable and just wants to be around people uh when we're when we're at home and we're not in the basement where they are so they have the whole basement to themselves now uh but when we're at home and we're not down there he just hangs at the top of the stairs by the by the plastic with the zipper, just like watching people go by. And I'm like, Hey, sorry,

sorry, dude, we're doing stuff right now and we can't let you out because Dash will beat you up. So that's where he's at. And then the other one gets extremely anxious when he's separated from his brother, doesn't explore as much and likes attention,

but you got to go find him and then he'll get all purry and stuff. But he, yeah, yeah. He's, he's a lot more shy. Yeah. A lot more shy.

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and cost averaging to maintain our target margins. So blank shirts cost just as much as they cost, but because prices have gone up so much in the last five years, I actually still think they're a really good deal at 1999 yeah yes we still intend to do tall boy versions yes we still intend to do husky sizes it has taken a really really long time to absolutely nail the quality of these shirts so but we have one quick thing yeah there's zero pictures of the backs of any of these. Yeah, they're blank. There's no logo? Yeah.

Nope. The only thing they have is a little, like, the size. So, like, an L, S, M, XL, or whatever in here. And then they have, like, Linus Tech Tips or something like that. Yeah, but it's inside. And the reason for that is that it was something to do with like the trademark filing for Linus tech tips. We had to have our own label on the shirts,

but you, you would never, you would never see it from the outside. So unless you get a logo printed one, and we've had a ton of people say like, Hey, yeah, I love the quality of the products,

but I don't wear brand logos or whatever else. Hey, we actually have, um, a team member who is super not into logos. Yeah. Maybe we can finally get some some stuff send that individual some stuff that'd be great you want some stuff i mean come on come on we're down

we're down yeah all right yeah all right so t-shirts are a big one and then we also quietly launched a mystery sweatpants option oh they're like pretty affordable but you never know i mean okay you pick this okay you pick the size here's a question to be clear here's a question but you don't get to pick exactly what style they are so uh good luck with that oh Oh, it'll be... Okay. Oh, we should specify that these are men's. I was gonna just ask. Yeah, no. Do you know if they're men's or women's? Yeah, we should specify that they are

a mystery of the men's styles. Yeah. There you go. All right. Where am I trying to go here? Hey, there we go. What do you want to talk about next should we talk about the thing thing the big thing the big thing that we've avoided talking about up until

now what the one that will have no hot takes no hot takes oh this is my personal guarantee i'm just personally somewhat bored with this i guess but we can i got it is that a take maybe that's a take i'm kind of over it yeah and i think that it's probably not going to change much yeah at least in the immediate term elon musk's acquisition of twitter for 44 billion dollars is now complete uh in spite of the lollygagging and attempts to back out of the deal that definitely happened. That I would have done too, if it was me. Yikes. Not looking like a good deal at the moment,

but the deal was sealed before the court-ordered deadline, which was today. On Wednesday, he tweeted a video of him entering the lobby, holding a sink, captioned, entering Twitter HQ, let that sink in get it get it let it in get it it's funny uh before the deal completed musk tweeted that he'd axed 75 of twitter's employees but today bloomberg reported that he told twitter employees that he doesn't have those plans so who knows what that means clearly it's uh going to be predictable c's from here on out he did drop the axe on the

ceo cfo and general counsel uh yes and the head of legal policy trust and safety yes they have all been let go uh yesterday he posted a letter to advertisers emphasizing his belief of twitter's potential as a common digital town square that it cannot become a free-for-all hellscape and that advertising when done right can delight entertain and inform you uh this was in response to some advertisers being concerned that if it was just a mass unbanning and allowing of any and all behavior anything goes that it would not be a safe space for their brands yeah so with that in mind it seems like he just wants to like continue running there's some funky stuff as far as my understanding goes and i don't know how real this is but as far as my understanding goes uh twitter developers

have been locked out of the code base and the codebase has been handed over to Tesla developers and Tesla developers are doing some form of an audit to see what needs to be done and what the current state of it is and all that type of stuff. So that's a little weird. I don't think I've heard of that before. I mean, that must be an enormous code base what possible hope could you have of auditing it in like a reasonable amount of i don't know i i've i've heard a few different takes on this um i also haven't maybe there is stuff i just haven't

personally seen i didn't do a lot of pre-research for this to be completely honest because i'm just again i'm a little bored with we've been talking about elon buying twitter for i feel like months at this point like yeah whatever um but i i believe basically the idea is just get some new eyes on it let's take a pause i my understanding is that it's a little bit less of like an aggressive like no you guys suck and it's more of okay let's take a pause we're not committing anything right now let's get some new fresh eyes on this see what we should do see what needs to be done and then keep going afterwards but who knows what's really going on um someone said they're making sure people didn't trojan the code before leaving twitter i don't know someone says that's fake news but they asked engineers to print their code for review well there's no way that i don't know. Someone says that's fake news, but they asked engineers to print their code for review.

Well, there's no way that's true. I don't know. And where's the link to that source? That would be far stupider. That would be, like, I don't know. But there's some weird stuff going on. We'll see what happens. I also just don't really care.

Twitter freaking sucks anyways. Did you see Jack Dorsey announced, like, it was either yesterday or today, Blue Sky, his new his new like social media platform oh boy are you looking this up now yes yeah you've been trying to reserve your handle i don't want another social media platform that's the thing like i want i want twitter to be better like twitter already kind of sucks so I think all the people who are saying like I'm gonna leave Twitter because it's gonna suck now like Twitter already is an absolute

cesspool yep it's terrible yep and so what I want is for Twitter to be better yeah that'd be great I don't know what the odds of that are but i don't want another i don't want to learn another social media platform like i still remember trying to wrap my brain around hashtags on twitter like i'm sorry why why are things full of ad symbols and hashtags still trash like that's the trending stuff on twitter is some of the most useless garbage you could ever imagine every time i've've clicked on it, I'm just like, this is going to be trash again because people are going to see that it's trending. They're just going to throw garbage hashtags on their normal tweets that have nothing to do with this. When you click on it, it's like, oh, yup, that's exactly what's happening. Like, it's just such a bad platform.

I don't really know what else to say. I don't know. It's just trash. bad platform i don't really know what else to say i don't know it's just trash yeah six hours ago jack dorsey reportedly working on new twitter called blue sky wow blue sky social um all right so we'll see how that goes um discussion question here from uh jonathan horst how much do you think twitter will change under elon's leadership i mean i think a big question is how much time is elon gonna have for leadership how many companies does he run at this point i think it's gonna be a pretty standard maneuver that we're going to see i think he's gonna step in disrupt a bunch of stuff as he's

already doing put new people in place and then step back out. Maybe get some employees pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got to expand the user base. Well, that's the thing, right? There's not enough people.

Yeah. He's doing his part. Yeah. For those of you who aren't picking up on the dry humor, that was a thing. Was it Boring Company or SpaceX? I can't remember. I thought it was. The workplace relationship. I thought it was. Oh, no, it was a boring company or spacex i can't remember uh i thought it was relationship i thought it was um oh no it was neural yeah yeah i can't keep track there's so many it's up to nine kids i think so far who knows something like that yeah i mean certainly has the money to support them so if that's how that works then i guess that's chill

yeah yep cool that's those are not hot takes guys those are just like stuff that's what's going on that's just stuff and things yep yeah but yeah it's i i don't know i just space sex says uh ben mitchell and floatplane check that's pretty good i feel like he would even actually just like that um he he will no but like remember the the model cars yeah yeah sexy cars yeah yeah like i feel like that's totally right up his alley like legitimately um but yeah i think that's going to be the maneuver try to try to start leaning it in the way that he wants it to be leaned make sure that the people that he puts in place are are down to do that and then he's gonna probably mostly dip because like how is he do you think he really cares as much about this as he does about spacex and tesla probably not i think it's more fun yeah i think but i think it'll be more fun for a temporary amount of time i think it'll be a hobby for a little bit and then it's

gonna get really annoying because twitter's really annoying. Because it's awful. And because that's the thing is like anyone who's actually tried to moderate a community, which you have, I have peripherally, like not nearly as much as Luke has. Anyone who has ever tried to manage a community of users will know that there actually are not simple answers to these problems that he thinks he's just going to walk in and solve yeah it's not that simple and anytime you give an open microphone to anyone that wants it there's going to be effectively infinite problems infinite n words yeah essentially pretty much and it's like you could say we're gonna drop and people are gonna try to circumvent in every possible way to say the most horrible things

they possibly can yeah and you'll ban them and they'll go lol it's the internet and they'll be back yep um and so it's uh i don't know i'll be apparently dogecoin spiked on this news which kind of makes sense because I could, I could definitely see people thinking he's going to pivot it to like a web 3.0 crypto bro monetized platform. They're going to, I mean, he's going to have to figure out something other than NFT profile pictures.

I don't think that was much of a needle mover for them. That was stupid. Yeah, we'll see how it goes i just i just i have no hope that it's actually going to be better because i think twitter's fundamental concept is just kind of trash um and the whole thing is based around though yeah i only use it because of work that's fair i didn't have a twitter account until you were like hey get a twitter account and i was like okay um and and twitter's whole concept is like built around the bad part of the internet in my opinion which is hyping up and ultra broadcasting negativity and it is built in a way where that is the best thing to do on the platform. That is the way you're going to grow the most. That is the way you're going to get the most

interactions. So it promotes it. And you can't change that because of literally how it's built. The whole idea of these short tweets, the whole idea of how things move around, how people interact with stuff and everything, you can't fix that in any other way other than deleting twitter so it's always going to be a pile of trash now that would be a big dick that would be sick to just delete it that would be so that's not happening that's not happening that's not happening but it would be cool that's uh yeah that's something yeah it'll always be trash because anger and freak out is always going to be the things that perform the best on the platform. Yeah.

So it's just always going to be trash in my opinion. Yep, yep. Well, I'm going to keep using it because it's pretty useful for getting in touch with public figures. It is nice for that. It feels to me, I use it how I used to use Facebook. Yeah. That's how I currently use it.

Yep. Like, I don't think I've actually made a normal tweet in like months. But I DM people all the time. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I probably DM, no, not probably. I DM far more in Twitter than I do in Facebook Messenger.

Yeah. And probably more than in WhatsApp. Yep. than i do in facebook messenger yeah and probably more than in whatsapp yep because like back in the day i would never post on my wall on facebook but i dm people all the time because everyone was on facebook now everyone's on twitter i still don't post on my wall or whatever you want to call it on twitter but i dm all the time it's just i don't know it is what it is i would be really interested to see if the if the solution you know to to tokenize it and to to to make it not just you know wild west um i would be really interested to see if the internet is ready for a real id token every user verified is the world ready google tried to do it and people rebelled facebook

tried to do it people rebelled i don't think so to be honest yeah because i can't i can't think of what what other purpose like your tokenization of the platform could serve right and it's one of those things that you know I'm always going to have a bit of a different perspective on this than other people because I have no anonymity anywhere I go. That ship sailed for me a long time ago. So somewhat I'm tangenting slightly back to what we were previously saying. But someone said in here, Twitter is great for customer support. My phone calls to my mobile phone provider get me nowhere. A tweet made things happen because Twitter is really good at negative things yes you're

complaining you're mad so twitter's like yeah yeah because that's the only thing it's good at twitter sucks but it is good for publicly shaming companies in order to get things done. That's like, that's the most effective thing I've actually used Twitter for probably ever is like, Hey, this is trash. And then like something happens. That's good. I guess.

I don't know. Cause it's good at promoting negative things. Hooray. Uh, fan standard says I walk into Linus prescribing privacy cancer. You don't have to use the platform, right? Like that's,

that's the whole, that's like the thing, right? But if you want it to use the platform right like that's that's the whole that's like the thing right but if you want it to not be taught like the the reason i can't say super still be toxic things on twitter okay it'll still be toxic but modern culture is all about that's fair putting your face and id on super toxic but there are also legal consequences in some cases fair so it'll be have a certain amount of limit there are particular degrees of toxicity that people can go to that actually have legal consequences and so it's it's one of those things like okay scammers for example i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna type this

what are you what are you what are you doing i spelled the brand name wrong but yeah yeah yeah real life consequences like legal consequences are being dropped by adidas i wasn't sure if i wanted to say this joke and and so you know i've lived this reality for a long time where if i say something online it has actual real consequences for me there's downsides like it kind of sucks I I miss it sometimes just being able to say whatever no filter yeah and it not mattering right so is your thing with that just a statement of like you don't want twitter to because i don't think you're saying that for

the internet as a whole i'm asking how he's going to unban everyone and not okay is that confirmed i'm pretty sure he is planning on unbanning people yeah but i don't think he's planning on unbanning everyone so i'm i'm wondering how it will be a free speech platform which is what i think he's called it without um without turning to chaos yeah and so one of the solutions that companies like google and facebook have attempted in the past was real ids yeah and so i mean i we know now that over time like it's boiling the frog right over time people have become less resistant to it like i remember the uproar with google plus oh yeah it was wild yeah like wild i do think people would be less resistant to it uh than they were then i do think there will be

a fair amount of resistance still i think something that would help it is, especially back then, people's usernames on YouTube were mostly anonymous. I think on Twitter, I would wager most of it is people's names. There's definitely a lot of anonymity. There definitely is, but there's also... I feel like most of it is just people of anonymity there's definitely is but there's also i feel like most of it is just people's names as their accounts uh can i get a ride today yeah yeah that's fine i was

assuming that was the what was going on but yeah no problem uh so yeah maybe there would be less resistance there but i don't know i still i still don't think it's going to solve the problem because, again, in my opinion, the core fundamentals of what Twitter is built on top of is a negativity engine. So I don't think it goes away if you add people's real IDs. I think people are also the average level of ability to feel shame feels a lot lower in the last like uh i don't know six years um so people are pretty down to throw their name behind pretty like reprehensible things so i don't know yeah in other news pentone has jumped the shark. Due to... This is amazing. Adobe users have been encountering pop-ups

informing them that Pantone colors in their files have been removed and replaced with black due to changes in Pantone's licensing with Adobe. Imagine how annoying that is. Excuse me, pardon? Files that they created already that used Pantone colors are now black because of the licensing change.

Now, to be clear, I do not know that this is entirely Pantone's fault. This could also be Adobe screwing up. I also wonder how much is this, like, how did they even do that? So is this, is this, is there like a... Hold on, there's a bit more. Okay. Yeah. Okay. The solution. You have to install the Pantone Connect plugin and pay an extra $15 a month for Pantone Connect Premium in order to use Pantone colors in your software that you already pay an absurd amount of money for. So is...

I'm outraged. Does Creative Cloud have a storage thing? Yeah, it does actually. Okay. So is that how they're updating the files? Well, no, it's when you would open it with your new version of the software. Can you open it offline?

Okay. So there are ways that people have worked around it. I don't think this is in here, but one of the ways that people have worked around it is by backing up or using someone else's, I forget what think this is in here, but one of the ways that people have worked around it is by backing up or using someone else's. I forget what the extension is, the file extension. File extensions are important, by the way. And they mean things.

I forget what the file extension is, but Adobe Colors... Many people are triggered. I know, right? Adobe Color codes are stored in a file extension that if you just grab them all then update then dump them all back in you'll still have them okay but those file extensions are no longer part of the new versions of the adobe suite unless you pay for Pantone Connect Premium. $180 a year? Are you f***ing minds?

Do you know how much we already pay you for the physical verification of this color crap? Okay? For the calibration. I laughed so hard. The calibration equipment for the monitors. We already pay you f***ing you in colors remember you got that color wheel of all those tiles so they could do the plastics colors or whatever yeah if it comes with

like a little card in the box three free months of of using these or they disintegrate like like the the the color cylinder literally lights on fire why does everything have to be a subscription yeah it's kind of horrible future sucks geez this isn't a complete shock to many creators as adobe announced it would be removing the pantone color books from its software in december 2021 this was then rescheduled to happen on march 31st 2022 then was rescheduled to August 16th, then delayed to August 31st. Turns out what they meant to say was October 27th. Common mistake. To make matters worse,

some users are seeing colors rendered as black even after paying for the subscription and installing the extension. Oh my... Don't pay for it! If you pay for it, they win. Stop. Thankfully, there are a number of workarounds

for those willing to explore abilities some considered to be unnatural so as i already mentioned you can back up your pantone libraries then re-import after the app update removes them or just copy the color metadata and use pantone colors as just regular colors with rgb codes yeah which you can totally do. Yeah. This just, this just makes me mad. It sucks.

It's so stupid. Like, how can you possibly have a subscription to a color code, a digital color code? I mean, okay. This, that's not even the most wild thing that I heard this week.

I was having a discussion with Nick and Bridget over at Creator Warehouse, and someone in the Creator Warehouse team discussed doing some phrase on the front of a shirt. And Bridget was like, whoa, hold on. We should make sure it's not trademarked. And they're like, how could that possibly be trademarked? And she's like, at my old place, we did a shirt that said True North Strong and Free. How is that trademarked?

And another company that apparently owns the trademark came after them and they had to pull the shirt true north strong and free is literally part of the canadian national yeah that shouldn't be trademarkable it should not be possible to trademark that that's really stupid that's that's actually really annoying oh my goodness so yeah um apparently lewis rossman made a video about new jersey banning heated seat subscriptions that's hilarious that's good i love it i love it um and to guys, Floatplane has an ongoing cost. Okay?

Pantone is already making money in every other link in that color management chain. They can deal with us having digital representations of how on earth are we going to print the thing to compare against our Pantone thing without buying

the Pantone? Oh, that's how they get you. No, but seriously, like the, the, the, the color codes for them. I mean,

it's a matter of time before someone just makes like a directory. Well, someone could just make a directory that matches all the color codes with the Pantone colors. Like it's, yeah, it's just annoying. So,

so it's just, it's just one more print, print out sheet that you have to have taped to the wall behind your monitor like they're just yeah they're just making artificially difficult creating busy work for people ridiculous yeah yeah there was that whole thing with the fine brothers trying to trademark react i do remember yeah that was super stupid unfortunately okay um oh okay uh the true north registered for footwear namely shoes boots slippers and sandals strong and free registered for t-shirts sweaters and hats i don't know what user 4675 on floatplane is talking about i don't

know if that's who it is yeah that doesn't seem to be anything about that apparently there are arm licensing issues i didn't even see that apparently there's an online conversion tool already yeah that's awesome because it's just a one-to-one thing like uh yeah okay this whole thing is really laser grape on twitch says pantone is literally a company that shouldn't exist what do they add to the world hex codes for colors g colors, GTFO. No, actually, that's not correct. They should exist. Standards for colors are really important. Taking colors from digital to print to physical goods is really challenging. And especially when you're working with people who are in another city or another country or on another continent, who are in another city or another country or on another continent being able to have references that you can trust 100 has a value but that doesn't mean that they need to squeeze blood

from the stone right like it's a difference between like ethical capitalism and just your consumers because you can right which is to be fair a lot of what's happening in the world right now um there's all this stuff going around talking about the the like inflationary state that we're in and how like questionably real it actually even is with uh certain companies that are like oh inflation that's why we're raising prices and then their profit, profit take from last year to this year is like doubled year over year. Um, a little ridiculous. There was some, uh, like gas company that last year, their profit at this point in the year was like, I don't know, four something billion. And this year it's over 9 billion. And they're like, oh, it's just inflation.

It's like, no, it's not. No, it's not. billion and they're like oh it's just inflation it's like no it's not no it's not it's greed come on yeah the the the the canadian supermarket oligopoly um has been like absolutely on that train prices are going up because of inflation also record profits oh yay that's not inflation that's just yeah b yes yep pretty much hey you know who wasn't uh jasco hey yeah good news now works with home assistant via z-wave that's right jasco has had a troubled past when it comes to integration with third-party smart home software, as pointed out in May by our very own Linus G. Sebastian, Anthony wrote this up, during a video on the popular Linus Tech Tips YouTube internet video

channel and the weekly analysis and news web-based podcast. Wait, what? Did Anthony write this or is this from an article? I wasn't sure. Honestly, I read this before the show and I wanted to call you Gabriel as a joke because I saw your name was fully written out. What the heck? What? an article i wasn't sure honestly i read this before the show and i wanted to call you gabriel as a joke because i saw your name was fully written out what the heck what is this like from jasko's website or something nope nope uh okay this is hilarious maybe anthony's just trolling yeah i guess so yeah uh yeah we never call wanshow that anymore it's not even that anymore it doesn't even say that it's just wanshow it's the internet show yeah yeah uh the primary issue was that the firmware provided from the factory

was unable to integrate with Home Assistant correctly. Some would incorrectly adopt the same IDs as existing devices, crashing Z-Wave JS and making configuration changes erroneously applied to multiple or even just the wrong devices.

Yeah, that's the thing. And the secondary issue was that Jasko supports initial response when asked about a firmware update was famously terrible, that Mr. Sebastian needed to purchase a proprietary Z-Wave hub in order to integrate with Home Assistant, and that the firmware was proprietary. The company's response to the Wensho segment was to immediately contact Linus and open up and provide firmware on GitHub within weeks of the

issue going public. And now Jasko has taken another step towards broad interoperability by joining the Home Assistant certification program as a Z-Wave partner. This is super cool. It means Jasko devices will be able to work completely locally with Home Assistant through the common USB or Pi hat Z-Wave adapter that you probably already had, anywhere from $40 to $47 US. Not only that, but despite their initial hesitation, Jasko has provided firmware files to the Z-Wave JS firmware update server project for 77 of their devices, becoming the first smart home company to do so. Talk about doing a 180. Oh, absolutely. Like this is one of those things where if it was anyone other than Jasko,

I probably wouldn't even be covering this on WAN show, like some smart home company is doing this. Yeah. But these guys were like very ass backwards in their approach and have gone completely. Totally fixed it. Completely the other way. I am so stoked because this is the best possible outcome from a negative review is that you just say, right, that was bad. Fixed. Let's fix it. Yeah. go and fast and not just and not just fix it to the degree that i asked for i didn't even ask for this they are like fixing their attitude which is

which is huge almost no company that i have ever engaged with in in my entire career has had the humility to just go, we were totally wrong. We were stupid. We were bad. And really change their attitude about it. This is pretty sick. Really awesome. This is pretty sick.

Yeah. Absolutely. Super cool. And like knowing this, I'm not that interested in homelessness and stuff right now i don't think it really makes a lot of sense in my apartment but if i was i would probably go for this stuff just because i like seeing that mentality and i would want to support that personally um jasko's apparently i don't know this, can someone provide a link to, apparently Jazzco's had

some struggles in 2022. Well, you guys will have to, you guys will have to let me know if you have a, if you have a source for that. Someone in Twitch chat's talking about it, but I'm, I'm kind of, I'm rooting for them at this point. Like to be clear, there's still some things that are like not, you know, ideal. Like the fact that the design that I bought was like an eight-year-old design. I didn't even realize

they hadn't updated the bloody thing. And there's a bunch of new Z-Wave stuff that it didn't support. Like there's still things that they can continue to do better, but... Oh, apparently it's a different Jasko. Oh, okay, cool. All right.

So yeah, this willingness to work so closely with the open source community now sets Jasko apart as a forward-thinking manufacturer rather than back back ass words. Yep. So good guy. Several users commented on the home assistant announcement post that while this is great news for Americans, many European companies like Fibaro was singled out, still refuse to provide firmware to end users similarly to Jasko. That is stupid and sucks. Yeah. So you know what?

I'm going to have to update to the latest home assistant. I'm going to have to make sure I'm on the latest firmware on those switches and see if the adoption of them has gotten smoother because I was having trouble. I had so many of them, which is obviously a very first world problem that I've still been having trouble. Not all of my switches are adopted because it takes so long.

Like it just errors out. so i just kind of gave up and half my switches work and half of them don't it's been really frustrating what else you want to talk about should we get into merch messages because it's like you know 7 30 yeah i'm down people want us to talk about this arm thing but i have no primer on the subject apparently uh there's two huge new points arm wants to do uh from 2025 onwards arm will end all tlas or technology license agreements with soc vendors and go straight to oems i sony will pay for the arm license instead of qualcomm this is posted by Handyman Handy on the LTT forum, by the way. Yep. And ARM will ban custom GPUs, custom NPUs, and custom ISPs if the SoC uses stock cores.

What? Why? Which is wacky. There's a note here that says, ARM is essentially doing what regulators feared NVIDIA-owned ARM would do. And part of the little itching back of my brain wonders if that is on purpose so that they can be acquired more easily. Maybe. Or on purpose because now that they didn't get acquired by NVIDIA, they need to make a lot more money. Right.

To justify their continued ownership yes huh risk five baby yeah hopefully it actually happens we all been saying risk is good for a long time. Yeah, man. Yeah, there's some really good comments. Tim 0901 in the forum's like, yeah, rip to the Nintendo Switch, or at least its successor, because if you can't have custom GPUs,

I mean, apparently NVIDIA already has a 20-year agreement for special use cases, but that's only 20 years. That's not forever. There'll need to be an alternative. Hmm. but that's only 20 years. That's not forever. There'll need to be an alternative. Yeah, okay. A little uncomfortable news. Doesn't feel like a good thing.

I can't imagine a good outcome from this. Okay. Well, good luck, everybody. We did say we would talk about YouTube separating shorts and live streams from long-form videos on channel pages. YouTube is updating their app and website, so channel pages will have new tabs added for shorts and live streams. Previously, there have been filters on the videos tab

for the different types of content, but the view would always default back to showing all things a channel has posted. This is what has been particularly frustrating for shorts, where you're trying to go back through the long-form content that a channel has posted. This is what has been particularly frustrating for Shorts, where you're trying to go back through the long-form content that a channel has posted. You don't want those vertical thumbnails, vertical videos messing up your thing. So now... It is annoying. It can be on a completely separate tab. The update will begin rolling out on Thursday and is expected to hit most users in the next couple of weeks. Here's what it looks like on mobile.

to hit most users in the next couple of weeks. Here's what it looks like on mobile. Ooh. Okay. Home video shorts live. It's actually pretty similar in the creator studio already. So this doesn't really come as a surprise to me, but I'm happy that we are seeing it.

There's a discussion question here, though. Will this just work to hide other forms of content from viewers and essentially silo creators into their uh their main category for example shorts creators might not get traction as easily when they dabble in long form content was there still a home tab i think there was actually yeah so i i don't really think so yeah home should still be everything yeah yep yeah that's great so i think i think it's gonna be fine yeah it should be. But it will be nice if you know what you're looking for. Yeah. It's very easy. I think it's good.

I think it's good. Exactly. Love it. Why don't you hit us with some merch messages, Dan the Man? Oh my goodness. Is there a few? There's a few. There's a few?

There might be a few. Might be a few merch messages. Might have been some people buying t-shirts. Oh, a lot of people. Yep. All right. Let's start with this one from Michael. Will you ever tell us the OCZ over the vote and blowing up story?

Overvolt and blowing up story. What is he referring to? Ooh. Uh, wow. If that was a story that I had said I would tell at some point, I don't think I remember it anymore. OCZ overvolt and blowing up story. I mean, I know they used to have like a memory module thing that would sit in your memory slot and allow you to overvolt your RAM more. And one of one of during

their rise to prominence, one of their big products was these overclocking memory kits that used what were called UTT dies, which stood for untested, apparently. And instead of worrying about things like reliability and power consumption, the idea was that they would just throw them into their validator, crank the voltage,

make sure that they could run at it. And, you know, OK, see you later. Off you go. Good luck. So lots of them died. But I don't think I ever had anything blow up from overvolting from them. I mean, I might have, but I don't remember. I'm sorry. OK, we've got another one here. This one's for Luke specifically. Wait, hold on a second oh i'm sorry i think luke might have had some concerns about this uh one i thought i might get one as a potential oh no um the reason why i removed the other one was just it was it was going to be

really uninteresting oh okay yeah so sorry what was going on okay this guy apparently has the same car as you cool and he's uh having problems with the alarm like you did uh and he wants to know how you fixed it merch message is about to get real specific right now no okay so this is actually that question yeah i didn't have any problems with the alarm i have no idea what he's talking about oh okay that was nice and easy we've got lots to get through let's move on my alarm's fine also we have polo shirts coming sorry that's why i removed it last time it's just i don't okay this one's from miles uh do you have you ever considered becoming a game publisher uh helping small studios and indie developers with funding and publishing technically we did

you did yeah there was a game called linus jump um which was a part of the verified actual gamer program um it's very similar to a lot of other games that are like this where there's it's it's vertically scrolling you start at the bottom and you have to jump on these different platforms and there's a high chance that you fall and you lose a bunch of progress and you have to try to keep climbing and eventually get to the top and you win a thing um so we we made a game it didn't cost anything we didn't really publish the game in the yeah in the sense that you're asking yeah um so with the with the spirit of your question more in mind it's the sort of thing that i feel like would be it's kind of like what we talked about with elon jumping into twitter like he's going in probably thinking that the solutions are easier

than they are and um that it's fun and i think what i would discover running a game publisher is that it's actually hard and a lot of work and I don't have any relevant experience and I'd really rather more experienced people do it who know what they're doing. I have ideas in my mind for what I think would be cool games and like, you know, obviously I'd love to, like I don't really have a ton of investments.

Obviously we own real estate, like, you know, the building I'm sitting in right now and stuff like that. But I don't have a ton of investments obviously we own real estate like you know the building i'm sitting in right now and stuff like that but i don't have a ton of like pure investment investments really i've got the framework investment i honestly have no idea how that's going like i don't know what i don't know what the shares are worth i have literally no idea whatsoever but that's that's that's it um and so you know from from like an investment standpoint i think it might be kind of cool to like find a game that i really believe in and you know help it get built and yeah and maybe make money like that would be that would be super

cool i think right that's what you're supposed to do when you have some money um but i just how on earth would i know how to pick that horse yeah i mean and you'd have to hear about it so early in development yeah like it's one of those things okay okay if the development studio behind cross code for example came to me and was like i need a million dollars i'd consider it i don't think they do though i think that they made pretty good money from their first title and they're probably self-funded at this point then again maybe this just shows my ignorance of the game development and publishing it's hard because when you're not when you're not a publisher who's doing very annoying modern tactics of like season passes and microtransactions and all this type of stuff when

you're an old school style style publisher where you launch a game like crosscode and then you work on your next game until you can launch it those pits between your releases are scary that's fair um and development setbacks due to complications or needing to rework things or whatever else can literally kill your entire company so i'm trying to remember there was actually a game that looks sick uh here it is yeah the uh the i think he's the head of the project, but it's called Sanctuary Shattered Sun. And it's kind of a spiritual successor to Supreme Commander. Oh, okay.

It's been in development for a number of years at this point, I think. And the idea behind it is that, here you go, here's their site. Every projectile,ile laser beam and missile is simulated in real time making things take on a much more real and tactile dimension grand scale strategic zoom they literally use the same wording as supreme commander to describe a camera that can go all the way from a single unit to the entire battlefield with one scroll

on the wheel uh flux economy that uh mimics that of real life adds more depth to the rts no spending limits no speed limits just the cold hard reality of income minus expenses very much like supreme commander uh these guys have actually reached out to me for investment in the past because they know i'm super passionate about the genre. And the reason that I ultimately said not right now is that when they approached me, it was at the time that I was completely like neck deep in screwdriver and backpack, which as you guys know, thanks to our amazing community is no longer the case. Cashflow is significantly looser. We're able to make some big investments

into building out the lab. Creator Warehouse just sent me a wishlist of new equipment. They want like a new SLA printer and like a bunch of other cool stuff like that. Thank you guys so much for believing, so much for your support. We're just shy of 100,000 total screwdrivers now, which was the entire first, like will we ever sell through this order and we haven't even

shipped them all yet which is yeah unbelievable um so i don't know i don't know maybe if uh maybe if tatsu maybe if tatsu reached out again the answer might be a little bit different. But the thing is, like, I don't like investing in what I don't understand. And I don't understand game development very much. I know I understand that I like to play video games. But I don't know anything about... Because, like, okay, let's say I got behind it. I invested in it or like i you know i decided to become a game publisher or whatever and like i published it what can you bring to

the table of them in cash yeah what can i add nothing and two what happens if they ultimately go and i don't think they will from talking to these guys but what if they go super toxic microtransaction predatory or something and all of a sudden that stains my brand that was actually one of the reasons that i pulled out of an investment detail of detail an investment deal um that was given to me a long time ago was i was just like yeah i i don't have any control over what you guys do i think i know what you're talking about and that's something that I talked about a fair bit with the framework investment is, if they go bad, it makes me look bad.

But, and I've said this very publicly in that case, if they do that, I'm going to roast them right back because at the end of the day, I do want their mission to succeed. And the truth is, I don't really care if it's them who succeeds or if it's someone else. And I consider it a pretty small price to pay for more repairable laptops. So I have skin in that game no matter what.

Win or lose, I win from my point of view. Whereas here, it's a pure cash play. The only way for me to win in this investment is for them to make a bunch of money. in this investment is for them to make a bunch of money and i don't necessarily as a player want them to do the things that would like maximize the profits out of this game so i'm super conflicted right yep makes sense okay you want another one sure all right this one's from jeff linus and luke with your float plane experience what is your opinion on the nebula streaming service will we ever see ltt on nebula well i don't know why we would be on nebula um we have float plane uh nebula is a totally

different model it's quite different yeah what. What is it? $3 or $5? Full platform. And then, yeah, you get access to all creators. So as far as I can tell, the way it works is nobody actually makes a shit on Nebula because, like, how would you? But creators who sign onto the platform get an ownership stake in the platform.

So at the end of the day... Which is a pretty cool idea. Yeah, when Nebula flips themselves to the highest bidder at some point, when there's some kind of an exit event, they theoretically will participate in whatever that ultimate valuation is.

So... theoretically will participate in whatever that that ultimate valuation is. So, you know, it's, it's a really different model for us. Our IPs, like our properties are not built for acquisition. That's not really, that's not really something that's not a twinkle in our eye when we're when we're creating something, whether it's Floatplane or whether it's Creator Warehouse or whether it's the lab. My philosophy has always been build a sustainable, profitable business. Everything else will come if you build a sustainable, profitable business. So it's not like get a bunch of VC backing and blow up the user base and sell it. That's a completely different approach to doing business. And I'm not saying that's what Nebula is doing.

I'm saying that our approach has not been focused on selling. And so whatever Nebula the platform does, as far as I can tell as a creator, But whatever Nebula, the platform does, as far as I can tell, as a creator, the only reason to be on it is for that potential sale event. Now, it could be the case that there are significant revenue shares for some of the creators on there. There is the whole CuriosityStream thing. Yeah, the bundle of CuriosityStream. But then again, you know, I have no idea how that revenue split works because the idea is that if you subscribe to CuriosityStream,

you also get Nebula. And if you subscribe to Nebula, you also get CuriosityStream. So that raises a lot of questions for me, like how many Nebula subscribers are actually even viewing anything on Nebula? Or are they just subscribing to Nebula because CuriosityStream is included?

And then CuriosityStream has a stake in Nebula. So these are very intertwined entities. But yeah, I just have absolutely no... Don't know. I have no interest whatsoever in whatever meager tiny share of the three or $5 a month or whatever it is that we would get for the dozens of views that we would get on Nebula. And maybe that's short-sighted. Maybe that's not the case.

Maybe it would be hundreds of dollars a month or something. Or something. But I can tell you guys, that wouldn't really move the needle for us and i think with the amount of content and the quality of content that we're publishing on float plane that it's worth the five dollars that actually goes to us instead of being split across every creator on a platform i think we've also like 30 000 of you agree so and there there might be there might be negatives to this or there might be positives to this who knows but i think we've also liked... And 30,000 of you agree, so... And there might be negatives to this, or there might be positives to this, who knows? But I think we've also liked

the specific viewerships on Flowplane. Like if someone's commenting on... I don't remember if they have comments or not. But if someone's commenting on our video or in the live stream or whatever, they came here specifically for this. They're not a viewer of someone else's content that happened to be here.

They're a viewer of our content for sure, no matter what, guaranteed. Yep. The community on Floatplane is actually kind of amazing. Yeah. For how few views it gets relative to YouTube, there's a really high ratio of interaction, comments, just like upvotes and downvotes on things

because we still have those. Yeah. Apparently, apparently it's only one way. If you get CuriosityStream, you also get Nebula. And we have some people saying that they watch on Nebula.

Apparently, some of their favorite indie creators are over there. There's tons of creators over there. There's tons of really fantastic educational content creators. There's lots of creators over there. There's tons of really fantastic educational content creators. There's lots of people over there. Apparently they have no comments because they don't want the moderation burden.

I don't blame them for that, to be completely honest. Moderating comments sucks. Yeah, yeah. To be fair, it doesn't suck that much over here because there's almost never anything reported because the community's really good yeah the main reason why i reacted to moderate and comment sucks is because of like dealing with the discord or dealing with the forum and well yeah but real-time commenting is very different from like posted commenting in terms of moderation well forum too i mentioned forum that that's fair

yeah okay i got another one here from melanie uh luke you're popular today hey luke what do you do to fight burnout what motivates you to go back to your code after a brutal day fighting fires and dealing with end users well i just did that pose because i don't i don't do that anymore um i haven't done that in a long time actually um but dealing with burnout i don't know i felt it pretty hard a long time ago and then i just got used to dealing with it i guess i don't know um good advice thanks luke i try to like i was feeling it pretty bad fairly recently because i really don't like hiring um i just hate the process i enjoy the process of having a new person on the team like onboarding someone

and like getting excited about their potential and getting more output in the team and all that kind of stuff is cool but the entire thing leading up to it just sucks it's just terrible and I can definitely feel burnout there but I just I've tried to focus on identifying things

that can help relieve that and when I need it I make sure I tap into it because I've recognized that if I burn out really hard on something I'll just start doing a really bad or very unproductive job working on it so it's just like okay well if I'm going to start doing a really bad job of this I need to try to make sure that I'm balancing it with something else that is still work and is still productive but is going to refill my tank and the ability to do that other thing and oftentimes that's communicating with my current team members so I'll just like check in with development see what's going on make sure things are going well do that type of stuff because i enjoy that part of the job um and then i'll get back to what i gotta do and then i don't know

you're you're gonna feel burnout in like everything that you do you can get burnt out of your favorite video games you can get burnt out of your favorite food yeah but burnout like clinical burnout it would be a different thing and yeah i mean i think what it boiled down to what he said that's sorry i'll try to summarize this take breaks yeah you you have you have to give yourself brain breaks yeah you can get you can get like really deep into it and get into like uh chemical balance stuff and try to make sure that you're not yeah i don't even want to get into that because i don't understand it well enough but yeah you can see you can do some really interesting stuff gotta flush out your soup occasionally yeah uh this one is from jerome waiting for the screwdriver to be available before i could buy

undergarments i was overdue anyway do you think nvidia is going to double down on the 12 pin connector or release a v2 of the card without it following amd's announcement of not using it on their next graphics card generation it's a big question i don't know on this i yeah okay why don't you go first i think they're going to double down but i think there's just going to be a v2 of the connector that'll be better i think there are some inherent problems with the connector but we have seen that a lot of the third-party options are not anywhere near as bad so i think with some additional engineering it could be made better if you'd asked me this five years ago i'd have said no nvidia um will never back down if if they decide there's a direction um but then they they introduced their usbc like vr connector with the 2000 series and promptly completely abandoned it which actually kind of sucks because

it was super cool for very very niche use cases like it was sick for gpu pass-through in vms because every vm just by passing through the gpu would have its own usb controller to go along with the display outputs for all your peripherals and everything so you didn't have to have because sometimes it can you can pass through usb devices but it's a little cleaner to pass through an entire controller so you either have to get a multi-controller board and put it into a separate pcie slot or you have to get a bunch of boards and so in some of our like really wacky builds we were able to maximize the number of gpus we could put in them because they all had their own usb controllers on them and they'll have their own audio controllers because of audio over hdmi and display port so you just had everything just on one card. It was a super card.

But ever since they abandoned that, I feel like anything's possible. I think that was because of VR adoption though. I don't think that was because they thought they like... Yeah, I think that was because of adoption of something that is external to them, not because they thought they did something wrong engineering-wise. Yeah, I just think this could depend on adoption in the industry.

Now, I don't think they will revise it again. Revising something like this a second time, I really think that's very unlikely. We just don't see those revisions that often. We went from Molex 4-pin to PCIe 6-pin to 8-pin, which was just two more grounds, to just taking more of those

and strapping them onto the cards when you needed more power. The need for the 12-volt connector is actually a valid one. The sense pins matter. They're important. Being able to communicate between the gpu and the power supply like how much how much current draw uh the gpu needs it has a has an absolute

value so what i suspect is that nvidia will stick with it i think we'll see higher quality adapters or we'll see native support from power supplies, which we're already starting to see. And I think that AMD will probably, either through their partners building custom boards or with their next generation, ultimately end up supporting it. That's my guess. Okay, this next one's from Alex.

Linus, does being such a big content creator take time away from your other hobbies like video games badminton etc yes yes and are you calling me fat yeah i mean called me a big content creator and i'm not tall not been playing badminton enough okay from miguel my first LTT purchase. Finally hopping on the almost full desk mouse mat trend. Have there been any games, shows, or movies you've finished lately that you really enjoyed or really disliked?

It's on your plex at the moment. Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. Is Star Wars lately? No. Doesn't count as lately i don't know maybe one of the shows thor love and thunder was trash uh was it oh oh my god so bad it was the only marvel movie in like many years that i was vaguely interested in seeing spoiler Spoiler alert. So nevermind. It doesn't matter because you're not going to watch it because it's terrible.

But at one point during the movie, which I did not feel compelled to sit down for like the entire time at all. Like I got up and like got snacks and came back. I was like, yeah, don't bother pausing it. I watched it because like, I don't know. It's just a thing. Yvonne and i watch all like

marvel movies together we do not bother with the shows there is too much marvel oh yeah there's too much cinematic universe at this point but um at one point when some i forget something just utterly ridiculous like laughable happened not funny laughable and i was like if if if that was not actually chris hemsworth like if this was not actually hollywood a-listers i would half expect the movie to devolve into a full like x-rated sex scene like like it felt like like a pornographic parody wow like it was just so campy and not i don't i don't know and it had some self-awareness of its campiness except that unlike 70s batman which embraced the camp all the way through yeah there are moments of this where it has this extreme taking itself seriously tonal shift yeah and it's taking itself hyper seriously on matters of life and death and love and it's like what even is this? Also, they committed one of the worst, one of the worst movie sins for me, which is that

instead of putting, okay, the whole, the whole point, okay, of storytelling is you take relatable characters with, with flaws. Like this is like the point of superheroes, okay, is that they are these relatable characters with real limitations and flaws, and you put them into these supernatural situations that test their limits. If every time they hit a limit, they can pull a new MacGuffin or a new ability or a new miraculous weapon out of their rectal cavity. Then it completely takes away any stakes and any engagement that I can possibly have with this story. And so there's this scene at the...

Okay, so I talked about this with fantastic beasts. There's a scene in spoiler alert, one of the fantastic beast movies. I can't even remember because the first one's good. And the other one was atrocious, but there's this scene in one of them. Maybe it's the second one where one of the like beasts gets out and he needs to get it back.

And he goes, Accio that thing and it comes flying into his magic suitcase and they merrily go on their way which doesn't sound like a huge problem except that the entire first movie is that his monsters escaped and he was trying to get them back and they filmed there's all these scenes where he struggles so this is to capture them this is the force healing problem yes yeah where it completely in that one like 10 second moment completely invalidated the entire existence of the first movie yeah there was no point in him doing any of that stuff because he could have

just been like akio you akio you and when we watch the first movie we can we can have suspension of disbelief right like it's not like i'm not willing to be transported into a magical fantastical world i love that world has to have laws that make it make sense that are consistent yeah and so when in the first movie you could say oh right well maybe akio doesn't work on like super powerful magical creatures you're fine yeah i i can come i can go along with that you can resist it or something in the first movie you could say, oh, right, well, maybe Accio doesn't work on like super powerful magical creatures. Sure, fine. Yeah, I can come along. I can go along with that. You can resist it or something.

But then when you show it working in the very next movie, set a year later or whatever, it's just stupid. Okay, so back to... No, okay. D-Boss says, welcome to fantasy storytelling. It happens all the time yeah

it's not new you're right but it's lazy it's it's lazy and it's bad so let's go back to thor love and thunder at the climax spoiler alert there's a scene where he's capturing these uh or he's rescuing excuse me the captured children that were being held by the big baddie to draw him out so that the big baddie could get his mcgin that finds a different MacGuffin that helps him achieve something perilous. Okay. So he's holding all these children hostage and Thor gets to the children and then he's going to go after the baddie, but then the baddie unleashes like an army of shadow beasts or something like, okay, fine. Fair enough. So far Thor's solution to this problem is that he bestows the powers of Thor on all these children.

And it makes for a very cool scene where they all just like rip through these shadow beasts, lightening them. And like none of the children get a scratch on them because obviously a, you wouldn't want to do that in a scratch on them because obviously a you wouldn't want to like yeah do that yep in a movie and b because they are all little mini thors and they're using their teddy bears to like lightning arc baddies into dust um but it's like here we are 27 movies in or whatever and And you can do that.

You couldn't make like a lightning infused Iron Man. Yeah. Like 20 movies ago. Wouldn't that have been convenient? Yeah. Yeah. It was a super cool visual spectacle. Very cool scene.

it was a super cool visual spectacle very cool scene but it completely killed any investment that i can possibly have something that i've i've found that makes those types of things work for me in stories is is what i would just i don't know there's probably a term for it but i would call it like special realms. Like the whole Jedi healing thing. In my opinion, it would maybe be okay. Maybe if you were like in Jedi Temple. Sure. Maybe the force is stronger there or something. I don't know, whatever.

Like you might be able to say in this one area, this thing is possible. Sure. But just. I forget. Like if he's in asgard maybe he can lightning charge the kids yeah i forget what fantasy setting it is there's one where uh whatever uh magic you do has an equal and opposite expense to you so if the if there was some kind of but that's never how the force worked no it was about just channeling this mystical, uh,

energy, the force that binds the galaxy together. Yeah. Like it was. So I, yeah, just making up force abilities completely destroyed star Wars for me in the same way that just making up new superpowers for these characters takes all possible pretense that there could be for

suspense oh what will happen i don't know they're gonna make up something like that would be badass like if it honestly feels like when you're in grade three yeah and you're like wouldn't it be cool if like they jumped off there and then they bounced up so high yeah that would be so cool but then there's no stakes there's no rules yeah and yes yes that is cheap character development by just giving them more abilities instead of having to use the limitations of their abilities that have been established to fight larger more difficult problems it's lazy s storytelling that's the bottom line it's lazy palpatine returned i don't want to talk about that somehow merch messages have returned hey this one's from nicholas hello

linus and luke i am an aerospace engineering student with procrastination problems what's your advice for studying more effectively and failing that finding one's career after a dream dies whoa wow that took a pretty nasty turn pretty quickly i have a spicy response okay i don't know if anyone's gonna like uh if your procrastination problems are that bad you might just have a problem finding a career um you have to do things eventually ouch man you with a little brutal brutal takes today you might you might find uh an environment where you don't have a choice to be a better scenario i think something that might work well for that and we were talking very positively about it earlier and i truly i do think it's actually like a very smart career

path that gets trashed on a lot for no reason but trades because if you're like on site and you have a foreman on site and they're like hey do the thing you don't have as many opportunities to procrastinate right um if your problem problem is studying and you procrastinate studying, there is still studying when it comes to trades, but you might have an easier time with it potentially because a lot of it, it's going to be a different type of studying and maybe that'll work better for you. I don't know. if your problem is hey i i can't get myself to do stuff i i can't give you a magical pill that makes you do stuff i know a magical pill that makes you do stuff okay yeah it's called therapy blue no therapy helps um a lot yeah i don't yeah sure i don't know but that is that is it related to that i don't know i think maybe i struggled i i had to find something that i wanted to do i uh i just i have focus problems

but that's the same thing like we can't tell him what he wants to do yeah i guess that's that's fair uh i got really lucky man like not everyone is gonna drop out of their science program uh and then you know start working sales at a computer store and have that somehow morph into running a media company. I don't know. I can't give you a roadmap that you can follow to that end, unfortunately. I'm sorry.

Yeah. But yeah, if it's not your thing, maybe try a bunch of different things and detecting a lack of procrastination might tell you that that's the thing that you should do because you actually enjoy it more. I don't know if that's even the problem.

I don't know. All right, let's go for another one. With Thunderbolt 5 coming, do you think we are close to using a thin and light laptop for everyday use and connecting an eGPU for high-end gaming? Is Labs going to be testing laptops and eGPUs? We're there already. You can totally do that.

You can do that today. You can do that with a framework laptop, investment disclosure. Hey, there you go. But yeah, that's absolutely a thing right now. Yeah, it's just expensive. The enclosures are just pricey. Well, hopefully they'll come down in price when more people start using them this one's from dean hey guys super excited to have some new clothes i had a job interview that went well today what's your most memorable job interview either as the person who is doing the interview or being

interviewed either good bad or funny oh most memorable job interview um my one at NCIX was pretty funny. I was like, so you know that I'm that guy on the forum. He's like, yes. Actually still in touch with the old HR manager at NCIX. He needed to buy a drone recently and asked if we had anything kicking around. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I heard from him um i've had a non-zero and also non-one number of people that were literally in the middle of cooking when i called them for a scheduled booked interview like and you were the

interviewer yes and they were just like one of them just turned on the camera too and they're just like hanging out in their kitchen cooking cooking they're cooking that was interesting that was memorable as long as it wasn't meth i guess it's not too bad um i've gotten into like not positive debates with people during interviews and then had them like expect a callback afterwards like like a political or religious debate like are we talking like like conversational sin like don't bring it up at christmas that's also happened yeah oh wow well remember there was the one person i think i told you about this too this might be a little specific they might figure out that i'm talking about them but whatever i'm not naming any names yeah i won't

name any names they they talked about that they were like you know sort of interested in the job or whatever but the main reason why they wanted the job is so that they could move here because they were interested in the local political scene they wanted to get into politics here and they i kept trying to bring us back to development and they kept finding a way to turn everything back into local bc politics and i was like wow wow i don't care like trying to hire a developer not a local bc politician so i don't know why we keep coming back to this not that it wouldn't be useful to have a local politician in our back pocket sure it's just we're not doing that kind of long-term thinking no no i i've had some weird stuff i've also had

a lot of completely fine or very positive ones but yeah ben standard says hey thanks for interviewing me can i tell you my opinions on vaccines and trump i mean yeah i've had i've had i've had some stuff coming up. Freaking amazing. Okay. All right, let's go for some more. This is from Anonymous. Hey, L&L currently use FPGAs in my PhD research.

Do you think FPGAs will be deployed in consumer devices? A laptop with an FPGA that could be configured for specific applications would be great. FPGAs are already in consumer devices, my man. There's the Mr. FPGA, that reprogrammable retro console dude out of my jig. I believe that Apple's, what do they call that?

Accelerator card for ProRes or whatever. Yeah, I don't remember. I'm pretty sure that thing used an FPGA. That was one of the reasons it was so expensive. Sorry? Analog devices. Like the Pocket.

Yep, yep. No, there are absolutely consumer FPGA devices. They're just quite expensive. Yeah, that is a common theme. Totally. Okay, let's move on. Hello, Dan, Luke, and Linus. Is there some tech that you like that was or is available in the EU,

but not in North America? We Europeans often feel left out, so I was wondering if there's something reversed as well. Thanks, and have a nice weekend. Nope. None? I don't envy anything about Europe. You guys suck.

No, I'm kidding. There's that modular phone, right? Yeah, I think it's super cool yeah uh cheap data only oh yeah and your guys's internet is like so cheap their phone network fast phone network is so much better um that maybe it's not tech but like men being able to like hop on a train and a few hours later be in a completely different country like experiencing a completely different culture don't take for granted the way that you guys can travel to somewhere interesting by ground like there's

lots of stuff that looks absolutely freaking amazing about europe yeah yeah okay no no we got this one from cole what's something Labs is working on right now that you're excited about? Oh man, everything. I mean, we actually got confirmation today that they're like, okay, yeah, just scrap the RF testing chamber. So we are going to repurpose it the way that we had intended. So we're working on a new chamber. I can't announce the details of that just yet.

What else do they have shaken? I don't think there's anything we're ready to talk about just yet. I like Mark Bench and Mark Bench advancements. I personally just that's cool to me. I like that project. Yeah, I don't know if there's anything in particular that we can update them on, though. That's happened recently. Yeah, nothing really new. For for now this one's from alan hey linus and luke recommendations for any modern split screen

games to play with my kids i want them to have the same kind of memories of gaming with dad that i do i've been having a heck of a time playing battle block theater with my son uh there's the new teenage mutant ninja turtles it's not great but it's you can pass some time with it um luke and i had a heck of a time playing untitled goose game a couple weeks ago yeah that was actually really fun yeah if your kids are like silly and they enjoy you know just kind of goofing around and laughing like silly humor untitled goose game is super easy to get into and it's cool i don't know if it was co-op on launch i don't think so i've mentioned that we played co-op to a few people And people were like

Are you sure it wasn't a different game? I'm like no it was it for sure It kind of sucks There aren't anywhere near as many Split screen games as there used to be Overcooked is great I guess nothing I've said is technically split screen Did they say split screen? Did they say split screen?

They did. They did say split screen, but like single screen, whatever. I'm sure it means effectively the same thing. But yeah, if you can find retro games that have like controls and graphics that, that age well,

and there's quite a few, then yeah, maybe just try going, looking back into the archives. Okay. This one's from Connor. Hello, Luke and Linus, pumped to attend LTX next year for the first time. Any fun things to do in Vancouver

to convince my wife to come? How far is the expo from the Pacific Ocean? You could literally pee into the Pacific Ocean from the convention center. Might not be legal, but it is definitely possible. Yeah, I didn't say you should. I said you could. Absolutely.

You totally could. Yeah, it's right in downtown Vancouver. There's lots of stuff to do in Vancouver. If you enjoy hiking, there's a ton of hiking here. It's going to be in the summer. Typically, our weather is pretty good that time of year. It's pretty beautiful. There's tons. If they're into into hiking there's tons of it even very close to what do people come to canada for yeah why do

people travel to canada often it's hiking and sightseeing oh yeah adventure stuff yeah oh yeah there's like lots of adventure stuff like you can go um like they do uh oh what's what's even called it's not called parasailing, but they do like. Oh, yeah. Parachute tours of some sort from like Top of Grouse Mountain. Yeah. I don't know how into different things they are. You can go like kayaking out in the ocean, like rent sea dues and stuff like that.

You can go up to Whistler for some biking i don't know if they're into that it's like fishing um this is a lot of outdoor stuff it's mostly outdoor things yeah yeah bamf is not close that would be like another trip oh yeah for sure not bamf yeah okay this one's from andrew hey guys do you have any favorite sets that you made for an ltd video my favorite was the classic orange set with the map and the clocks in the background. Really? That's like the worst one. I don't even remember that one.

I'm amazed that got mentioned. I think that's the single worst set we ever had. Do you agree? I would have a hard time thinking of a set that was worse than that one yes i can think of a worse one okay the steel series branded shelf that had brandon's actual workstation as part of it okay i completely forgot and the vinyl wrapped ikea desk when we used to do sponsored videos for for steel series that was worse yeah not by much um i'm gonna go with an unconventional answer for this my favorite even though it's arguably even worse than either of those was the old wanshow set with the product boxes piled up to the point

where and this was great because we would set up the pile and then we would like need stuff out of it once in a while and things would like fall down and we didn't leave it and we would just leave it because we're in a hurry oh man i uh i liked i've always liked shooting a set from a different angle to the point where it feels like a totally different thing and my favorite version of that so i'm gonna slightly cop out but my favorite version of that i think was the kick-farted set because it was the same i believe it was like the wanshow set yeah but the camera was in a different position i was behind a desk it was at a slightly different angle and it camera was in a different position. I was behind a desk. It was at a slightly different angle

and it was shot in a completely different way and it felt totally different. And I thought that was really cool. I liked that. Okay, I got another one here from Daryl.

I can't remember. What did NCIX stand for in the first place? I bought a few things from them back in the day and they treated me very well. Netlink? Computer?

Incorporated? and the x was like to the extreme like it didn't actually stand for anything yeah that was uh that was cool until the end unfortunately yeah then it got kind of cringe yeah good job no wonder they went out of business just like ncx yeah uh okay this is from pavan uh love the content and merch keep it up i've been following since the ncix tech tip number four i was wondering is ltt labs going to be similar to artings where their website gives reviews and scores for products or is it just going to be data on products without any reviewing there are certain things that cannot be translated into a number necessarily. So I think we're going to have to have a little bit of editorialization. But I am strongly opposed to simple numbers based rubrics. rubrics so that's something that i still need to hash out with the labs team and figure out how we effectively communicate the value of products beyond just charts and graphs

okay this is i have some ideas by the way uh in in regards to scores that would dynamically change based on data we have talked about that yeah okay where like a good headphone today can over time decay as newer better headphones come out and not just because time has passed but because things are scoring better yes yeah yeah that is something that we've discussed how to handle and we do not have a final answer to that makes sense sense. Yeah. Okay, this one's from Paul. Hey, Luke, what was the design slash build process of the inventory system for logistics like? Are there other tools, not just for labs,

that the teams made? What's your top tech tip for someone making internal tools for a small manufacturing company with a team of one? Team of one. Well, it would be the same tech tip that I have for our team, because guess how big that

size was for uh up until a few weeks ago uh it was one um so yeah i don't know for one superstar yeah heck yeah let's go peter um you guys saw uh his setup in a recent video that we did nice um and he was just here for a week it was cool but uh try to build new as little as possible um so our internal system is is a fairly heavily modified version of an open source system um you can just say which one right yeah it's snipe it yeah there's no yeah it doesn't matter. Uh, it's built on Snipe it. Uh, that was weird for us because it's like PHP and Laravel. And then if you've ever poked into float plane or anything else that we do, we don't do PHP stuff. Um, so that was, that was, you know, that was weird. Uh, but it went quite well because Snipe it was quite robust and, uh, seem we're building on top of it. pretty okay uh we've expanded it quite a

bit um the logistics team does a lot of stuff here they they wear a ton of different hats and there's actually a lot of work that goes into managing this inventory some of them wear a ton of different underwear that too um no i don't no that's a reference to that from the Call Me Chris exclusive on Floatplane where Nick Callanan talked about. I don't think I saw this part. Chris and I were talking about just like because we're both bedwetters or were. And so we were kind of talking about things that happen to everyone. And Callanan pipes up. He's like, like yeah like crapping

your pants and we're like no I did not wow okay hmm yeah yes um so that was pretty funny wow uh but yeah we're expanding that system to be clear not recently the way. It was just the way that he brought it up was surprising. That's all. Yeah. We're expanding that system to help handle product procurement as well. And there are other internal systems that we're working on too. Yeah, I don't know. We're scaling up internal systems.

The main thing that I would keep pushing, though, is just try to make new as little as possible try to use things that are out there even if they're not 100 perfect it's probably not worth your time to make a new thing that is 100 perfect because it won't be because it won't be and then you also have to maintain it now yeah And you're just constantly growing the amount of things that you have to maintain. And eventually, if you stay a team of one, there's going to be so much stuff that you have to maintain

that you can't build anything new anymore. So, I don't know. Yeah. Modify things that exist. Try not to build new as much as possible. Okay. This one's from Anonymous. That guy, he writes in a lot, actually.

Hi, Luke and Linus. I love watching The Wayne Show every Friday. Some games like Zelda Breath of the Wild can feel so magical the first time you play through them. If you could re-experience a game for the first time again, what would you pick? Final Fantasy VI. Morrowind. Wow.

You never even played Morrowind properly, what would you pick? Final Fantasy VI. Morrowind. Wow. You never even played Morrowind properly, didn't you? Didn't you only just recently beat the campaign or something? I thought you were... No, he was talking about the thing where you didn't play the main quest for like a long time. That's right. Oh, and then I did. So you want to go back and be able to

sell that item again. Alright, this one's from Timothy. Basically, yeah, to be honest. Yeah. The knowledge is ruined. Yes, yeah. Okay, Timothy asks, I needed a new bunch of shirts because mine all shrink. Hopefully these don't shrink.

Also, Linus and Luke, do you guys have any video games that you want to be ever made into a movie or show? I feel like they'd just ruin it. Yeah. None. None is an answer.

Yeah, there's definitely games that could totally, totally be good movies uh but the the way they manage to like destroy stuff it's just it's kind of remarkable yeah i mean imagine having as cool a character as laura croft and just f***ing out the kinds of tomb raider movies they've done. Yeah, really, right? That's a brutal one. Yeah, there's a... What?

Yeah, and sometimes you get some weird curveballs too. You'd think the Warcraft movie would have been such a default win as well. Because you watch their cinematics and you're like, this is the best. This is going to be sick. Like something that's actually a decent watch you know probably not actually but i thought it was kind of neat was you can look up there's a video on youtube which is just all of the warcraft 3 cinematics stitched

together oh yeah and it's not like a good movie to watch but putting it on the side monitor while you're doing something else and glancing over every once in a while it's like wow this is really impressive these are all really engaging the animation style is fantastic and stuff then they made a live action movie why it's so much worse and they broke a bunch of the lore they did things in the movie that didn't happen like it's just totally different than what actually happened not that it is real but you know what i mean but if you have a universe that you created then when you break it that's on you yeah like the whole time i was just like why i i don't know um outer worlds i think could be maybe cool i don't know um there's some suggestions max pain could have been pretty cool yeah agreed uh

yeah like team fortress 2 movie would be pretty team fortress 2 movie could be sick would be sick especially if it kind of like took the piss a little bit oh yeah it was self-aware i feel like if it was like lego movie style yeah yeah yeah i could see it being i could see it being pretty cute yeah i like that okay i got one here from nicholas question for luke what kind of programming paradigm do you prefer slash use functional procedural or object oriented oh god i mean it just changes over time use what is right and the last one from dalton you and ludwig have recently been referencing each other in many videos streams is there any because you guys keep bringing it up oh no is there any chance we could see an upcoming collab see his uh swipe bidet making uh their way to lct store.com yes have you ever tried the bidet attachment um yes we actually uh featured a bidet on the channel a long time ago when we

used to do this series called uh what the heck are you guys buying or something like that i forget what it was called but basically we would we would dig through the amazon affiliate sales list and just find like the weirdest stuff that we made affiliate revenue on which means that someone using our code bought it on the same transaction as presumably some tech stuff or something yeah yeah so uh a clip-on bidet was one of them and it's actually still installed in the unit 102 bathroom it's still there i don't know that anyone uses it or doesn't use it but it's there when the when the pandemic got all crazy and everyone was buying all the toilet paper i bought a bidet and installed one haven't looked back as for whether we would carry the swipe bidet

i mean we carry the jerry rig knife yeah what's up uh you know what's my what's my wholesale pricing on it let's go yeah um as for referencing each other we met at creator summit so that's probably that's probably why okay there are a few more potential ones but it means i need to kind of read them before i can uh i can address them i guess i'll try to help going through yeah why don't you guys all right hi luke what piece of media has inspired you from adam b uh inspired me yeah is that just i don't know i don't i actually don't feel like i have a good answer for this inspired me to do what like i don't think there's any particular piece of media that php for dummies

uh i never did that i have never learned php um i don't think there's any piece of media as long as you don't say mein kampf then i think we're pretty good wow yeah not bad uh i don't remember i think it's called okay i have one actually there's no wrong answer other than that that's the wrong terrible old movie's this terrible old movie called The Core, I think. I think I've heard of that. Where they go down to the center of the earth or whatever? Yeah. And there was this coder in that movie.

Wasn't he called, like, Rat or something? Wow, this is a really old reference. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, he was like the weedy guy, and they always get him to play the little weedy guy in every movie. Wait, what the hell is his name? Oh, wait. Oh, no, never mind. Oh, wait. the weedy guy and they always get him to play the little weedy guy in every movie yeah wait oh wait oh no never mind oh wait the core what's going on is this the right movie am i thinking yeah the rat is a character and i thought the rat was from the matrix what's the matrix mouse

yeah sorry i when i was watching a lot of movies growing up one of them being the core but then you also see the heist movie and there's like the hacker dude in the heist movie um i like rat from the core i thought was a really cool character i don't know and that maybe inspired me again as software development i don't know but probably the main thing that got me to get into software development was just games but no game in particular like i don't know i don't feel like there's one individual thing that actually like inspired me i don't know whatever that's a really boring answer but it is what it is i like it next oh right i'm supposed to be doing these now

oh here's one uh seeing how young jake was in one of your more recent videos uh made me feel old when was the first time you did a double take when looking at someone's date of birth on their resume i think it was jake yeah that makes sense yep it was basically, and I don't think Jake actually is, but it was when people started nearing like a decade younger than me. Then I was like, whoa. Yep. This is nuts. You're an old boy now.

Yep. Anonymous asks, hi, Dan, do you have any upcoming audio content? What kind of audio equipment do you have at home? I'm not sure I have any audio equipment coming up. I think we might be looking at the... We have the one where we're treating my theater room. Yeah, that's right. We're doing that with our panels.

I'm also going to be doing Polaroid's new Bluetooth speakers. Why Polaroid is making Bluetooth speakers, I have no idea. I've got quite a bit of audio equipment at home. I've got some panels and amplifiers but now I'm at home I've got some vinyls and amplifiers for my for my home theater kind of the vintage mics

I have some professional audio equipment in my main studio I've got some Eurorack modules synthesizers lots of pianos Dan are you muted?

I was for a second there maybe somebody pushed it for me Linus no I I fat fingered it then I can't even do that Modules, synthesizers, lots of pianos. Dan, are you muted? I was for a second there. Maybe somebody pushed it for me. Linus? No, I... Okay, I fat-fingered it then. I can't even do that. I don't think we even have that button. Yeah, you do.

No, we don't. No, we don't. Is it green right now? Is what green? Bell Live? Yeah. I don't think either of us have ever pressed that. Oh, yeah, I didn't know.

Mine says Prod Live. Yeah, I just didn't rename Luke's. Oh, okay. Wow. Whatever. Wow. I'm bill now wow yeah lots of lots of stuff cool john e says uh do you think any triple a studio will capture tarkov's magic i'm looking forward to cod dmz but i don't have high expectations um i wish i could say yes but i think no because if I think the answer was yes,

I think it would have happened. Tarkov reached very large Twitch popularity quite a while ago at this point, and it hasn't happened. And there's no game that has at least publicly entered development that I think is really the same thing. I don't think COD DMZ is really going to be the same thing. Maybe it will.

Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm wrong. I would like to see a competitor, but looking at how Battlestate Games operates. I think operates is a charitable word. Yeah, exactly. Like Streets of Tarkov makes the development of the player look extremely fast. Like, I don't know the it's an unfortunate game to be a fan of i'll say that much

um but uh yulin asks hey i finally got a chance to get a merch messages option to show up during wan show i always wanted to know about the cpu puzzle like thing that's hung up in the background of videos will that ever make its way into lt store? There was a bug that was hard to detect with the new theme with merch messages. So the last two weeks, there's a problem that's been fixed now. That's why. It still doesn't work with shop pay. We can't fix that. As for the puzzle-like thing, I believe you're talking about the puzzle. And yes, it will make its way to the store. I have no idea when or why it isn't there already um but at some point yes it will thanks yelin okay last few last few uh yes i have had success

richard w and using thunderbolt docs or e gpus with a framework laptop anonymous of all the types of hardware you've reviewed what do you feel is on the decline or keeps getting worse and what do you feel keeps getting better i don't know if there's anything i mean okay cases are an interesting one because they used to be made of much more premium materials in a certain way like much thicker steel metals yeah you know and a lot more of it but the modern designs are way smarter and way more usable and in some ways the materials have gotten way better we use tempered glass now instead of acrylic for side panels for example so what do you feel keeps getting worse

i don't think anything keeps getting worse. Like that's the thing about technology that's like kind of magical. The keyboards were getting worse for a long time. They were, but they've stopped. Now they've gotten like way better. Yes. I'd say mice have plateaued to a degree. But that's not getting worse.

No, it's not getting worse. There was a period of like super sick innovation in mice. That was really cool. Cases do the same thing. There was a period of like super sick innovation in mice. That was really cool. Cases do the same thing. Cases will go up like crazy for a little while. And then completely stop, I find. Yeah. And then crank up and then completely stop.

Yeah, it's all about competition. And there's a lot of competition in the computer industry. Zach says, love my backpack and all the merch. Are you looking into YouTube ads further? I watch on my phone while at work and consistently have to skip long format ads. Are you looking into YouTube ads further? Like you mean to advertise the merch?

In that case, yes, we'd love to do that, but we have not found any success with it yet. Lachlan, Linus, I do find your arguments to buy arc in order to encourage competition compelling i'm wondering if you would have or did made the same argument for amd when they were close to bankruptcy and their cpus were not well regarded um they were so bad yeah uh and to be clear even when i made that argument for arc i only made it for like enthusiasts who want to tinker yes it's a specific and with bulldozer there was nothing to tinker with it was just bad yeah um like even like first generation uh phantom the the six cores and

stuff like the 1100t that was like arguably justifiable to buy there's a difference between being just a turd and being an interesting turd yeah you know the kind of turd you want to like get in there and dig around and you know yeah yeah like an early like the early oculus headsets were terrible, but they were fun to play with. Yeah, they were. So it didn't matter. Yes. It was still interesting.

It was very engaging. Yeah, it was fun. Last one. Isaiah asks, hope this finds you well. Lately, a person can run x86 programs on ARM with translation layers like Box x86. Is there any hope of getting a roundup of ARM SBC gaming performance in a slow news month?

No. Yeah, I don't think that's happening anytime soon. But thanks, Isaiah. And I think that's it. Yeah. Thank you so much for tuning into the WAN Show. Thank you so much for checking out the new t-shirts. I can see lots of you have picked those up. Yep. Blank t-shirts. I can see lots of you have picked those up. Yep, blank t-shirt, one of the top

selling items today, which makes perfect sense. Oh, how's Mystery Sweatpants doing? How does many Mystery Sweatpants? The Mystery Sweatpants are a really good deal. Oh, okay, there they are okay yeah there's a few of those yeah all right i think that's it bye and we cleared our merch messages let's go go team that thing probably shouldn't show if there's no merch messages in queue i think it's a pretty minor issue. It is. It's not worth developing a fix. That's fair.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. Oh, wait. I'm supposed to wait till floatplane catches up, right? That is one way to do it.