The WAN Show - I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

Episode Date: April 27, 2024

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See app for details. What is up, everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show. Wow, that's all the energy I can muster today. Sick. In any other universe where breaking the streak was an option i think i wouldn't be here today but let's go what are your two topics and i almost pulled all-nighters so we're gonna get into why that was and uh why we're here anyway uh what else

we got today oh right tiktok, but no, for real this time. But wait, no, maybe not. You know what? No, you're right. That topic sucks. It's boring. Okay, Mozilla blasts dating apps for dropping their privacy standards. And this is a bigger deal even than it sounds like.

I was floored when I was reading through this. Okay, what else we got today? Gamers escape from Escape from Tark tarkov it might finally be over if the cheaters weren't enough we've got a doozy for you uh also nice i don't know what else uh net neutrality might be back uh fcc votes to restore obama obama uh era rules repealed under Trump we're restoring Obama I mean you look you see the you see the pictures the day he started his term and the day his term ended

we're gonna restore him boys we're gonna we're gonna put that black hair back he's gonna look less haunted dude seen some stuff oh boy just roll the intro we got this wait what pretty sick huh this is awesome yeah dad dead in the corner oh man that's great that's awesome pretty cool hey did you see that on reddit uh i saw the post but i never ended up actually watching it i i meant to but i think i just oh my god so that's pretty great it's amazing

it's like it really raises the question why did we ever bother to try to create our own intros for anything you know that the ltd uh 3d one is based on uh just a random viewer that created that. And then we reached out to them. We had it tweaked. And now we use that as well. Wow, that's pretty great. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like that must have been, correct me if I'm wrong, guys. If you're in the audience and you're going like,

oh yeah, that's really simple or something, then by all means let me know. But that looked like a freaking ton of work to me. Yeah, absolutely incredible. We have one of the most and I'm not just blowing smoke. We have one of the most talented viewer bases out there. When I see stuff like that, it just absolutely blows my mind. So that was super cool um i feel terrible for not knowing the name of the person who submitted it do we have that handy nate yes that's a by nate c absolutely killed it um he remade a special version for me without the ending credit so that i could put our sponsors over it uh even supplied the font that was going to be for it um super awesome that is so cool did we give him did we give him money i i don't know

we can follow up if you want okay um yeah let's uh yeah i'm gonna send a message to uh to vance and i'm gonna make sure that some money leaves our bank account while you do that you were talking about amazing we have a very creative community uh escape from tarkov has a very angry community uh escape from tarkov developer battle state games has angered fans by releasing a new 250 us dollar version of the game you heard it right after taxes and fees and everything else this is like almost 400 canadian dollars or something like that i don't remember exactly um but the the fees and taxes are pretty brutal as well it is wildly expensive have you not heard of this no okay this is why i want to include this topic dude i've done nothing but

shoot videos and inhale paint fumes this week so i have no idea what's going on. Yeah, $250 US version of the game. The pricey new Unheard Edition includes access to an offline PvE co-op mode, which supports all of the quests and everything else that the main game does, all able to be done in PvE co-op. That's actually pretty cool. I would probably enjoy that version of the game more because the reality of it is i love the concept but i'm not sweaty enough

to play tarkov yeah hold on though that existing at all yeah is not why people are mad yeah we'll get there in a second right because people love the idea that that's a thing yeah totally people have been begging for this for i don't know it's the whole time the game has existed so yeah totally yeah no problem as long as they're not plastic bagging those are banned then everything's good sorry my brain's a little okay this this uh pve co-op mode will will have persistent progress so when the game wipes it won't reset every time um cool yeah so those things those things are good right like like balder's gate or whatever like you could have like a campaign that you're playing with your

friends yeah and you're and you're it's a co-op mode so if if yeah if you can't play all the time yeah exactly me too yeah i would there's there's um because like every time i touched tarkov it's wiped like i just i it's not the kind of thing that i can commit to playing every day or every other day i genuinely think every time we have played you've had a fresh character so it is what it is um uh yeah i think it's fantastic there's there's unsanctioned they don't like it uh this is i don't know the where the legality lies on this but there's like this thing called spt tarkov where it's single player tarkov and there is an unofficial co-op mode thing but those are all uh battle state games fights against those and doesn't like those those are uh they think they're

bad so this is like an official one um the right the game's official twitter account has confirmed that this mode is exclusive to the 250 us dollar pre-taxes pre-fees unheard edition this is a big deal okay really big deal hold on i have a big question here yeah how did they know that i hadn't heard about it? I just hit my face against the mic. That made me facepalm so hard. This is a big deal since the... Yeah, there you go. It's a big deal since the $150 US dollar

Edge of Darkness edition, which is no longer available for purchase, promised buyers free access to all subsequent dlcs and there is actually on the subreddit uh there's a screenshot of a tweet are they arguing this is they're arguing that it's a feature it's not a dlc well what the heck is a dlc yeah what is the difference there's a tweet go for it can we get together and define what exactly dlc means because as far as i can tell it's a catch-all term it's content you okay well tell me this do you download this or do they mail it to you?

It would be so funny if they mailed this to everyone to try to get around it. That would be hilarious. I mean, that would explain the cost. Yeah, I still don't think so. Well, it depends what they're mailing you, Luke. Have you ever tried to mail a box of weasels? Like, we don't know what they're mailing. Oh, man.

No sleep blindness is a heck of a thing. What was I going to say? There's been quotes from them before about saying how EOD or Edge of Darkness is supposed to be the highest tier they're ever going to release. There's a screenshot of a tweet that says you don't need to buy anything at any stage if you have eod you don't even have to pay for dlcs in the future you're all in for

all of it coming um it's it's yeah and this would also tie in with the fact that eod or edge of darkness with this all dlcs thing has existed i think since 2017 or 2016 even yeah i'm not sure but it's been at least 2017 and um the only thing dlcable that has been available to them has been a very recent release of something called tarkov arena which oh no way i would argue the vast majority future yeah and then they never delivered content and that well they delivered partially and then decided that they're not anymore pray they don't alter it further i mean is the tarkov audience this stockholm syndrome that they just this is their game. I don't think so anymore.

That's the way that I see it. Every time I play Tarkov, dude, I'm like, look, if I wasn't living and breathing the meta of this game, there is absolutely no way. Like I couldn't possibly hope. And some games aren't like that. Some games you can drop in six months later and fundamentally kind of know what you're doing. You know, you jump into

team fortress 2 it's like oh there's new hats you know whatever i'm probably gonna get beaned by a you know flying squirrel or something um but but but tarkov it really does feel like if you're not on top of it you just have no idea so presumably then this is the game that a lot of these people play and this is going to sound crazy this is going to upset some people but 250 dollars over a span of let's say let's say it's a year let's say it's a year that they this is going to upset some people you know they actually yeah that they actually have this be the top tier or whatever that's 20 bucks a month compared to what some people out there who play one game are spending on their cosmetics are spending on their microtransactions it's not even that crazy now one second i would never pay it

absolutely not yeah and theoretically what i'm trying to say is dude people are gonna pay it yes and some people already have some streamers already have uh which was a little disappointing it's gonna learn nothing uh i think they're gonna learn something actually uh their player base is their player base is extremely on fire right now the uh the subreddit is on fire people People are trying to spin up, uh, like lawsuits because again, there was a version that said you get all DLC.

They've been quoted saying that you don't have to pay anything again, because you own all the things. And then now they released something that is, uh, incredibly more expensive than it was before. Um, and there's, there's,

there's, there's continued issues. We're not even through the main body of this topic. There's a lot to talk about here. You mentioned there being no other games. I got to jump in for a second, though, because timestamp guy, Noki, he's coming in correcting me on Team Fortress 2,

says, you often use TF2 as an example, but they haven't added any new weapons since Jungle Inferno 2017. Metas pop up every now and then, but nearly everything has been static ever since. Okay, well, let me tell you something, Noki. I play Team Fortress 2 once every approximately three years. Yeah.

Sorry. Yes, you're probably right. My big moment for TF2 was when they started adding all the rando weapons, and I was just like, oh, okay, now I have to pay attention to this game a lot. You're right. It's not really a huge issue anymore because Valve has kind of moved on to other money-making endeavors, but it was an example back then, and I should have clarified because I should have known

that they haven't added any weapons since Jungle Infer 2017 thank you very much nokie and can we just get a little bit of appreciation for nokie those times every week like an absolute chad yeah all right thank you uh flowplane customer support joe in in flowplane chat said offline co-op progression servers are slammed with 20 to 30 minute queue times people are buying it so i'm sad um which this is like man that is the most if eod buyers so people who bought the edge of darkness edition that said they got all the free dlc and they never need to pay for anything again if those people upgraded their accounts that's like the most i feel like this is like an outdated term but that's like the most beta thing ever they just scammed the hell out of you wow it's gonna be you with the hot takes yeah they just

scammed the hell out of you and you were like all right yeah please take more of my money uh you just abused me here let me let me financially support you further so yeah that's that's a little weird to me i don't i don't support that at all but anyways uh moving forward i'm gonna try to get through more of this topic and then we can we can discuss oh no no i'm not actually i'm gonna tangent again you said there's no other games um funny timing uh there's a very recent game now in early access is it in early access no it's you can just request it i think they had a play test recently or something i'm not really sure what's going on with this but gray zone warfare is a game that has like uh it's it's not the same thing but it will probably capture a very similar audience also uh uh during this battle state games i think most notably nikita got in a direct

argument with another game called arena breakout infinite that they are claiming um in a direct argument with another game called Arena Breakout Infinite that they are claiming is a direct ripoff of Tarkov. So maybe there is an alternative for people, but we'll see. Oh my god. I just read the next bullet point. This is unbelievable. In an attempt to fix the situation battle state game coo nikita buyanov took to reddit to announce this is great they're giving edge of darkness buyers access to the offline pve mode this is less great for six months yeah that is unhinged yeah that's not the next bullet point though there's more uh this is a super you know super hardcore game you die you lose all your stuff um and this edition of the game is directly unquestionably pay to win in multiple ways uh you've you've played so you might pay to win

co-op game luke no no no no i mean pve pay to win this this the the features are in co-op but also in the main game so there's there's things like uh let me see if i can find yeah here we go wait no this is update regarding the eod edition you know i hate to I hate to generalize, but can gamers grow a backbone a little bit? Yeah. Like the gaming community has to be one of the most whiny communities. But when it comes time to actually just do something,

or better yet, not do something, just don't buy it. They can't. And I realize I've probably gone on this rant before but like this is just embarrassing i mean look i don't think you're allowed to use the term beta male anymore maybe not i don't know it's for real it's just like you're getting you're getting abused daddy and then giving them more money yeah it's like it's i i't, maybe there's a more correct current term.

I don't, I don't know what it is. But yeah, let me, let me read through some of the, the features of this edition. Fine. I'm not even going to read through all of them because one of them is like digital copy preload, which is like, who cares? So access to that PVE mode that's cool um i wish there was other ways to buy it so you didn't have to spend an amount of money that most people don't even have to spend on video games at all let alone uh one of them uh increased stash size so that's like mostly a way you you get a bigger stash? So hold on. It's so much worse.

It's so much worse. Oh no. Expanded PMC pockets. So while you're playing, you have a limited amount of inventory space. The game works, it has a very complicated and important economy. And being able to take more things out of the raid

will make it so that in future raids you're going to be better geared because you have a better financial situation and having increased pocket sizes cumulative effect yeah so before like uh you know whatever it'll have a snowball effect because if you can take so much more stuff out you can carry out more stuff to sell you can and then you can buy more cooler stuff which means you can and then you can buy more cooler stuff which means you can kill people even more easily and better and raid their stuff and take even more but this is ridiculous and it makes it so that if you're trying to do a run where you're trying to be very economic you can actually bring less stuff in because not only do you have more

pocket slots before you had four one by one pocket slots now you have two one by one pocket slots and two two by one pocket slots so you have tall i'm beginning to think that you can put like full size magazines i think there isn't i don't dude i don't think that there is a scandal big enough to make gamers wake up like literally this version of the game could be could be called give me your money bitch edition internally that could be the internal code name that might even that could leak and gamers would do it anyway yeah yeah uh so in in addition to the the pockets and the stash size you also have an increased uh like uh reputation standing with one of the the characters in the game called fence so that you can sell more stuff on the flea market which is like player to player

selling and you have more slots on the flea market so you can put more things on the flea market which is directly going to mean that you're going to be able to make more money faster which is a huge portion of the game uh you get a unique in-game melee weapon which people found was uh just an asset from the unity asset store directly taken they didn't do any form of modification to it it's just literally straight up an asset from the asset store i don't remember if it was like a free asset or like a six dollar asset or something but they just like you're the asset yeah pretty much um increased mail retention time so like if you if you buy insurance oh yeah uh if you buy like insurance in the game or something like that like look most people don't play tarkov so there's a

lot of people watching this that are probably going i don't understand these things it's a big deal out of this yeah and i get this i get this every time that i talk about something that apple's doing that is super anti-consumer as well where you know you'll have the usual crowd of well linus just hates apple just don't buy it you'll you'll get you'll get that sort of that chorus of of bad takes where people are are missing the big picture here the big picture is that this is a precedent now. And outrage, we have a limited capacity for outrage, right? We were so outraged, and I know we talk about this one a lot. We were outraged about Horse Armor in Oblivion.

Nowadays, we're basically like, man, this game's great because all their DLC is cosmetic and not balance shifting. Or, you know what, we can maybe allow for that this skin, this really popular skin is kind of more camouflaged on this map and that map. You know what, we'll still accept that. You know what, I mean, realistically, you could farm for ammo for that super op gun so you don't have to buy you don't have to buy ammunition so i guess that's okay and i know that slippery slope arguments are not very good arguments but when you are slipping down the slope actively tumbling head over heels like what's going on with this tarkov situation where they are taking a game that where balance is everything to the experience and messing it up and charging

you a bunch of money um my connection didn't actually die there i just my brain is slow today because i didn't sleep last night and i ran out of steam so i thought if i just stopped moving then maybe they'll think that was the connection i uh i brought up the trailer and got some like visual representations of of the some of the pay to win things so here's your increased stash size here's your increased pmc pockets you can see how uh these ones are taller so you can fit full-size magazines in your pockets now that was never possible before um so now you could go without attack rig um so you're you're spending less money on doing future raids your character skills are just increased this was already a weird thing in my opinion because people who could play the game for a living would have higher base skills because it would take an obscene amount of hours to level

these skills up um and now people that uh maybe work for a living and then spend money on the game can also have increased skills and that can directly make it so that if you play exactly the same uh the person with the higher skill count could beat you because some of these things are like you won't bleed as as easily or you're uh more accurate or reload faster with guns you can run for longer you can carry more stuff you can uh jump higher what like if you're if your strength is high enough in the game uh you can jump on to things that other people can't like it's it's being able to have higher skills is directly pay to win right uh and then down here improve starting equipment set um which is less of a big deal in my mind uh and then moving forward

every cool idea every cool idea that battle state games implements here is something that we will see implemented somewhere else when inevitably gamers just lie down and take it and there's no consequences so here it is this is my call for anyone who is actually into tarkov because they're the only ones who can who can make up set a precedent here who can say look this is too far don't play it yeah like seriously set a calendar set a calendar look i get it it's your favorite game that's chill set a calendar notification for yourself for six months at least a temporary boycott will send a message like yeah it might not affect their wallet because realistically you already bought the game anyway or whatever um but what it will do is it will

cause their concurrent player counts to decline it will send an actual message that they can actually understand it will degrade the gaming experience for new people who come in and they're like this thing is empty. And to be clear, it's not about punishing them. It's about punishing Battlestate Games. It's about like, look, we are your community. We are what makes your game good. Treat us with respect.

Act like you deserve respect and you might get some. There, that's it. Yeah. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Oh, wow. Six months. Six months boycott. Don't play. Whoa.

The top... Oh, no. What now? The top Tarkov streamer right now, I believe, is streaming modded single-player Tplayer tarkov which is a little unheard of in my mind uh 5 000 viewers are watching this person playing a a modded version of the game which is like super not okay with tarkov um i was just wondering i was gonna go see like how many streamers are currently playing this i i wouldn't go after streamers that are playing the game it's really rough when like if you're if

your entire income stream is based around like playing this one game even if the company that runs that game does something deplorable it's it's rough to kind of fully pull out but maybe encourage people to to try out alternatives like gray zone warfare um or potentially it's not out yet and i know nothing about the game at all but arena breakout infinite alternate games that are in somewhat of a similar style that you think they might like and their audiences might also like but i wouldn't go around don't don't go around like harassing streamers for playing it but yeah rough i uh i was already done because their response to the whole cheater situation was a giant nothing burger.

And I'm not down to play a game like this with a bunch of cheaters. And then when I first heard this announced, I didn't see the price tag. And I saw the co-op PVE mode. And I was so stoked because I was like, we're back. This game is super sick it's not gonna

wipe i can play with like lioness or joe or or whoever else is a bunch of different people that i play with um it'll be fun we don't have to deal with any of that kind of stuff and uh then i was like ah no yeah no i don't want anyone to buy this so i guess that's never happening uh there there's other weird stuff too like there's an there's an item that you can get i think this might only be if you have the unheard edition or something i'm not certain where scavs the scavengers basically the ai characters in the game won't shoot you if you are uh 60 meters or more away uh but like only if you have this version so it's like it's it's it's super pay to win um i don't think anyone that like enjoyed the hardcore realism nature of tarkov

should should honestly play anymore i think this entirely broke the game but it's up to you guys make your own decisions moving on though next topic we're gonna see what happens apparently that streamer got permission to stream that version of the game really from battle state apparently what apparently that's what floatplane chat is saying unprecedented times anyway we can move on to our next topic they said they wouldn't dmca them i mean cool that's weird i don't know what that means okay uh but anyways um do you want to talk about mozilla uh blasting dating apps this one's really interesting to me yeah according to a super into the dating apps yeah yeah we're both very active in this in this realm according to a recent report with mozilla dating apps are growing increasingly aggressive and invasive when it comes to collecting users

personal information having declined significantly since the last time mozilla reviewed their privacy practices in 2021 around 80 percent of the apps reviewed share or sell or sell personal information and do not guarantee users right to delete their data most apps requires users to opt out of precision geolocation tracking and do not appear to adequately protect the data that they collect at least one catholic group was able to out a priest after buying grinder scruff and ok cupid user data grinder is also facing a class action lawsuit alleging that it unlawfully shared uk users hiv status with vendors something which which grinder admitted to doing though it denies doing so for commercial purposes what what uh you just did it because you thought it would be fun? Like, what?

Due to the nature of dating apps, much of this information can be incredibly personal and revealing, including religious affiliations, political beliefs, and sexual history. These companies also automatically aggregate information from users, devices, social media, third parties, and the metadata of uploaded content like photos. Match Group, who own over 40 dating apps, including Tinder, Hinge, Match, and OkCupid, say that private DMs are scanned by automated tools and may be reviewed by human agents if the bot flags potential illegal or unsafe behavior. However, DMs are also reviewed in order to evaluate, train, and improve their automated tools.

in order to evaluate, train, and improve their automated tools. Okay, this one blew my mind. Because basically, if they left it at the beginning, if they left it at, okay, there's something potentially unsafe here, it has to be reviewed by a moderator. You know what? I kind of get that. Because inherent to a dating app,

you're going to have monstrous things happening. You're have human trafficking potentially you know like you oh yeah these platforms do have to be moderated to at least some degree yeah however saying look we can review basically anything we want for the purpose of evaluating training and improving our automated tools that that's basically saying, yeah, it's like selling you a camera. That's like, yeah, I'll just, and I'll just tune into it whenever I feel like it. Cool? Cool. Like I haven't used a dating app before, so I'm going to sound potentially kind of out of touch here,

but I don't imagine that this is clear to the user when they sign up for this thing like guys let me know are you on one of these platforms and was it was it clear that they might be you know collecting and sharing your sexual history and uh you know any infections you might have. Or, man, like, reading your DMs. Yo. Like, what? I've heard tell that some of the younger generations are trying to go back to more archaic versions of dating, skipping the whole dating app thing,

which I think is fantastic. Very good job. Keep going. Wow. It's buried in the TOS, I'm sure. A lot of people are not seeing. These apps have also become significantly more gamified and addictive, in part to cope with declining revenues and market share. As millennials have gotten older and settled down, Gen Z users have become the largest population of singles. However, they are typically less interested in hookups and casual dating than previous generations.

Did I just get slut-shamed? I think so. I think our whole generation did. Which, you know, sounds probably about accurate. You know what? Pre-love, man. Yeah, man. Yeah.

Discussion question. Is there an inherent problem having platforms involved in something as intimate as personal dating? Uh, I don't think it has to be, but it looks like it obviously is. Yeah. If you respect user data,

then no, it shouldn't be a problem. You should, you should have it all. If you just make it so that you can't read dms unless you're like basically is brutal yeah i don't know why it's so delayed you're not that far away but i'm noticing the same thing um if if um it would be nice if they couldn't read any dms unless one of the users involved flagged the conversation. That would make sense to me. In floatplane chat says, when I was at this place, we had a presentation by Tinder execs

on data usage and getting to profitability. And it was a very creepy conversation. Yeah, I don't doubt that. I don't doubt that at all. But like this really does seem like the kind of thing that could be done. And it's just people, you know, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts, absolutely, or whatever, right? Like, because people who enter personal information in a dating app compared to a political survey or compared to, you know, a workplace profile survey or something like that, assuming that they have an earnest desire to find a partner,

I was reading about how people will answer questions much more honestly and transparently because by hiding it, all they're the only person they're hurting is themselves and so all they had to do was say okay and our service is to pair you up with someone and you pay us for that and we don't have to have growth forever we don't have to have limitless growth. At risk of sounding like an anti-capitalist, man, the inshittification of everything just does seem inevitable when you have this mindset of needing growth forever. I understand it to a much greater degree now, but especially when I was younger, I would come across a news article that's like, Big Company X has missed their estimated earnings per share that analysts were expecting from them by $0.02 per share, and their stock price tumbled 10%.

In other news, they made $10 billion this quarter. And I would, I would, I would listen to that. I'd be like, sorry, what? So they make, so they make, you know, hundreds of millions or they make a billion dollars or billions of dollars in this time period, but they didn't do like as good or as we expected and that we were, that we were gambling on, that we had kind of priced into their, their, their gambler Tron share price. So,

so what they need to do a bunch of stock buybacks who, who announced like huge, huge stock buybacks just now. I forget who it was, but, uh, their share price when I think it was Google. Don't on this until I find it. Google surges after buying

back billions of dollars of its own stock a day ago, $70 billion. So you know why a company buys back stock? There's two potential reasons. One is they're expecting it to go up a lot. And so that could be, you know, good value to own more of their company if they're super confident they're going to like do awesome. But do you know the real reason they do it? I've had a... So that their share price goes up. Which is good for... Yeah, and the personal investments that the executives have in that company and that the

shareholders have in that company go up. It's just to enrich them personally. And, you know, when you look at a company like Google over the last year or so, you know, what were the big bumps to their stock? Laying off a bunch of employees and using that money to buy a bunch, buy back a bunch of stock. I was talking about this on the pre-show, but I was, I was watching john oliver bit on um on boeing boeing really fascinating you can basically trace back their decline into crappiness to the moment that they started spending their money on stock buybacks instead of on making a good product why don't we have systems why don't companies implement systems that punish terrible, terrible long-term thinking? I don't understand it, guys.

Yeah. I always had this theory that, maybe not stock buybacks to the tune of $70 billion, but I always had this theory that smaller size stock buybacks were based around, a lot of companies do stock as compensation. So I was like, how do you how do you just keep doing that forever so you you probably have to buy some of your own stock and then it makes this like cyclical thing where you're increasing the value of your stock by buying your stock and then giving stock to your employees which increases how much they want to

potentially stay or try hard or whatever if that even works who knows a little more complicated than that you can issue more stock without necessarily buying the stock does that dilute the value of the stock that you currently have though because you added more um i don't know this is like i genuinely don't know yeah yeah every company works a little bit differently okay if if yvonnella Corporation group of companies had some kind of stock program, I personally would want to, I would feel that we should take a Bitcoin-like approach where not necessarily that you use GPUs or ASICs to mint more of the stock. You know, I just like the stocks. That's why I buy all these GPUs. I just like the stocks. That's why I buy all these GPUs.

So not from that point of view, but from the point of view that they are finite. And in order to issue incentives, for example, we would have to actually be profitable. We'd have to actually own what we give someone. I don't know how that would work. And maybe I'm just naive. But from my point of view, it's always been frustrating to me that if I have something that's worth a value,

that someone can just decide, oh, yeah, no, actually it's less than that. Yeah. This is not financial advice, guys. Not financial advice. I'll be the first to admit that when it comes to when it comes to stocks when it comes to to you know real world you know big finance stuff i don't get it and i think i think part of it is almost just like a rejection of it like i actually not sure if i if i care to get it i don't have to play the game so maybe i just maybe i just won't maybe i'll take my ball and go home i i know that's a the majority of it for me i i hate it just feels so yeah i'm just not i'm not gonna get into all

the reasons why we'll get to a new topic uh ev company blows whistle on potential corruption. This is one that hits genuinely close to actual home. The government of British Columbia, Canada, is investigating allegations of potential conflicts of interest in how provincial low-carbon innovation grants are administered. This follows an allegation from CEO Chase Barber of Edison Motors, who claims that MNP, a gigantic accounting firm involved in administrating grants, reached out to his company after declining their first application. Reached out his company after declining their first application. Okay. According to...

We have to throw the doc together a little quickly today, folks. Yeah, yeah. It's genuinely not their fault. I'm just trying to the doc together a little quickly today folks yeah yeah it's genuinely not their fault i i i'm just trying to piece it together um by the way just quick shout out edison motors these guys are doing absolutely incredible work if anyone from edison is watching right now we would love to do a video together that would be sick i think actually alex from our team may be in touch but just want to just want to indicate my my super willingness to come over there and check out what you guys are doing because it's outstanding. It looks absolutely incredible. That would be awesome.

According to Barber, rolling back just because it's been a little bit, the CEO of Edison Motors, MNP offered Edison Motors a service to help them apply for future grants, which included a success fee of 20 of the grants value ew uh should the application succeed it's unclear from publicly available information whether these grants included the ones that mnp was helping administer i've i'm going to pause there's more of this topic but i've heard of this a lot before with government grants, where they're effectively impossible to get unless you partner with a company who takes a significant portion of the money, which means that your government tax credits, which are supposed to power innovation and business growth within your country,

are being diluted by middlemen. That is the only way to actually get them. Well, the business of being a worthless middleman is a business. They're growing that business. We should find a way to delete all of them. Anyways, I'm going to move on. Barber says that he raised concerns with the energy ministry in person and shortly after his company was disinvited from a promotional event

by a government- funded lobby group for vehicle electrification. Edison motors is the only company in the province that manufactures heavy duty electric trucks. MNP threatened by the way, and they're actually like genuinely very, very cool. Uh,

MNP has threatened to sue Edison motors, which is a small privately owned company. According to Barber, the company can't afford a legal battle with a billion dollar company yeah uh neither could like most people so i i don't blame them um barber uh sorry uh and stated that he personally lives with his parents because as far as my understanding goes he has invested like everything he can into the company, which is the driven, dedicated... That's what we should be trying to encourage.

Yes. That's what we should want out of entrepreneurs. Edison Motors has been... Doing everything that it takes to kill it, and we should be supporting that. They've been pushing limits of technology. They've been pushing limits of quality. They've been doing all these things that...

British Columbia should be very proud of this company and be trying to prop them up, not trying to step on their neck. So this is very frustrating. We've got a couple of discussion questions. Even if MNP hasn't technically done anything wrong, shouldn't Edison Motors be allowed to raise concerns without the threat of a

company crushing lawsuit? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you should be able to raise concerns about anything ever and the worst case scenario should be you know hey we've um we've investigated your concerns and we don't agree with them like you can't be punished for for i mean honestly though there's so many things that are like this i mean uh the u.s is finally growing a spine about the whole realtor thing,

how difficult it is to sell a home without a realtor and how those fees have absolutely ballooned in recent decades to the point where the simple job of being a sales rep and helping you list your house and fill out some paperwork has turned people into these multi-gazillionaires. list your house and fill out some paperwork has turned people into these multi gazillionaires um and to be clear i'm not down on anyone who's busting their butt as a realtor i understand that it's one of those skill sets there being a twitch streamer yeah where where the the the one percent that are crushing it are sort of over represented in our in our perception but actually most of them are struggling to sell a house, whereas those few that are succeeding have, you know, a team of people working for them,

and they're basically just parasitically taking money from them. I get that, but also just the business of being a middleman should be fine, but it shouldn't be this lucrative. And you know what, Luke? I don't want to get too much into it, but we've, as a company, had experiences that strike me as not that dissimilar to this. Oh, yeah. I've directly been involved with some of them.

Yeah. And none of this should be necessary. You should be able to fill out the paperwork the right way and submit your application according to the process that is on your government's website. And it should be processed in priority sequence. And then it should be dealt with. Okay, you know what? Fine, I'm saying it. Yvonne is still chasing some kind of credit that we've been due since, I think, 2018. Like, what? I'm sure if we knew someone, that wouldn't be the case.

And the biggest problem with that, because if you're hearing this, yes, that's a very, very, very, very, very long delay. That is pretty ridiculous. This is 2024 now. That's six years. The biggest impact of that, to me, is not something

that we necessarily even felt that much which is if you're not as that was when we needed the money exactly still here six years later we needed it then yes if you're if you're a smaller uh startup company you need everything you can possibly get because you don't have a lot of assets yet you don't have a significant amount of cash flow yet probably um all these other things you need that capital to be able to keep progressing so by holding it for this long and making it so hard to get what you're really doing is only enabling large companies to be able to get this this uh this money which in a lot of cases they probably didn't even really need it might benefit them they might be able to do a little bit more from it but they probably didn't like need it and the companies that really needed it it could

have made or break their whole company and then they'd be they'd be fine after that, are generally unable to get it. So, very frustrating. So, shout out Edison Motors. These guys are doing super cool stuff. We'd love to collab with them and see if we can get them some much-needed attention, see if we can get some business their way. Honestly, what I suspect is that their bottleneck, because the product is super cool,

what I suspect is that their bottleneck is more just capital, which is probably why this is so frustrating for them. I'm speculating right now, but when your tech is that cool, I suspect it's production capacity that's holding them back right now, not having a cool product. My grandpa used to work in financing for semi-trucks. These things are expensive.

I'm sure a new company trying to get into the space isn't going to be able to produce a enormous amount of them all the time um there's a there's a lot of cost involved so yeah sponsor time all right do you want me to hit these oh yeah let's do that but we've got a bit of a scary merch update. Are we supposed to do merch messages? Sorry, we'll get those after sponsors, I think. Okay, let's do it. Luke's going to do it today because my brain is bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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here which is pretty cool uh i think we need to do some announcements. Do we have, is there store stuff or anything? Yes. Merch, yeah. Yeah, we do. We have a date for the screwdriver bit set pricing increase. Oh, good Lord. Okay, I warned you guys about this a little while ago, but there's not much more warning here. They're going up starting Monday, April 29th.

So if you want to get some screwdriver bit sets, they're going from $6.99, which apparently is not profitable, so cool, to $9.99, which apparently is better. Thank you, CEO Taren. So make sure you get those at $6.99 while you can. They're going to be going up on Monday, April the 29th. 99 cents while you can. They're going to be going up on Monday, April the 29th. We also have restocks of some of our graphic tees, including the neon hard drive, sensor, and retro GPU. I have no way of screen sharing with you guys, so you might just have to kind of imagine what those look like.

But if you want to send a merch message, those might be some things you want to pick up. I need a nap before I go to this party tonight, though, so I don't know if we're going to get to every merch message, but yeah, we'll definitely try and do a few. Luke, Luke Week. What is Luke Week? Luke Week, yeah. We're doing something special on Flow Play next week, and it's all about me, I guess.

We will have a few me-centric videos, including the iconic chicken recipe. No, no, no. If we're going to have Luke Week, if we're gonna have luke week if we're gonna have luke week we need linus week yeah and i hear i know i understand your argument every week is linus week and you know what that's fair but i think we can all agree there's no such thing as too much linus week no i i think i think we i think we should is it actually no no i'm totally kidding it's just funny that after all these years we have luke week all you

had to wait was uh ten and a half years on a platform that he's in charge of hey whoa whoa so the whole idea was the inventor he was the inventor of brandon appreciation day and it's taken him all these years to get his own appreciation week it's not it's not an appreciation week my goodness there's gonna be other people week. It's not an appreciation week. My goodness. There's going to be other people as well. It's not just me. I didn't choose that it was me that started this. I don't know.

I just... Yeah, we knew your ego was going to... Oh, my goodness. We knew it was going to take off at some point. I was asked and I just didn't say no. Took long enough. You've got one chicken recipe, okay? You're not a god.

Yeah, so there's a video... Okay, tell us what you're doing tell us what you're doing there's a video where i i cook and talk about the chicken recipe and i get i get arty to try it um there's my thoughts on the gaming industry and a video of meeting my birds so there's three videos coming so your hall pass is arty uh yeah so the whole like yeah that got a little weird don't worry about it because the chicken recipe it has a 100 success rate so i i thought about this and i think i think for it to be a success or a failure, there has to be a goal applied. So there was no goal applied with Artie. So I think we're fine. I see.

Okay. Yeah, I think we're good. And then I guess we have a teaser. Here's a teaser of what to expect next week. So Dan, can you play audio from my screen? Uh, yes, if you want to go. I'm there. I'm not getting any audio from you.

Oh, it's not playing yet. Here we go. Oh, there we go. Uh, yeah. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh. Oh, is it not working? Here is 2002.

I approach the desk at the rental store with a freshly minted copy of The Elder Scrolls III, Morrowind. After handing over my change and scurrying home, I proceed to play for roughly 24 hours straight, more captivated by this finely crafted world than anything I had seen in my entire 11 and a half years of life. You got me. Yeah, wait. Is it, it's just audio? Okay.

No. We're? Okay. No. We're starting over. Alright. I approach the desk at the rental store with a freshly minted copy of The Elder Scrolls III Mord. After handing over my change and scurrying home,

I proceed to play for roughly 24 hours straight, more captivated by this finely crafted world than anything I had seen in my entire 11 and a half years of life. Even boobs. I woke my dad up the next morning by professing my love of this game and begging him to buy a real copy of it to replace my rental version. To my surprise, he agreed. My dad and I would take turns playing on a shared save file where one of us would read through the player's guide and direct the other who would control the character.

These are some of my favorite gaming memories ever. We use that player's guide so much it barely holds together at this point. The cover has been missing for decades. I was driven to get into software development because I wanted to work for Bethesda, for Todd Howard. I wanted to make things like Morrowind, this piece of art that means so much to me. To say this is my favorite game ever would be an understatement. Fast forward 21 years to Starfield's release, and I tried with every fiber of my being to find that diamond in the rough, but it just wasn't there.

that diamond in the rough but it just wasn't there okay uh i thought that was gonna be a shorter clip um but essentially i long wow luke luke week is apparently takes an entire week yeah apparently yeah i uh so that's like uh it also changes significantly from there but i end up talking about how like yeah so starfield sucked but i'm not going to go through all the details as to why um because it just that's been done to death already so here's my thoughts on like how the gaming industry is going why it's going that way different companies yada yada yada yeah hopefully it's interesting the people that have seen it so far liked it um like previous themed weeks we will be doing some ltt store giveaways that you can sign up for on float plane. So if you want to see that content and get some potentially free stuff,

be sure to sign up. And if you want to see what else float plane has, if you're not on float plane, for whatever reason, we're also releasing the car break in prank for 48 hours on LMG clips. And it's live now. Did they know the show was starting at 1 PM? Is it actually live now did they know the show was starting at 1 p.m is it actually live now we've been driving a

lot of uh subscriptions on floatplane lately yeah it is live now it went up 35 minutes ago we're back pretty close to to cracking 3500 there's apparently extras oh there's 500 for the linus tries influencer drinks video now. 35,000, sorry. Yeah, I was just bugging you. Yeah. Floatplane's been rocking it lately. Yeah, the exclusives have just been so sick. Elijah's got an exclusive talking a bit more

about the Humble PC. That one just went up two days ago. Yeah, there's so much. The 90 Day Scorpion Chair Challenge video is finally up. That went up two days ago as well oh was it elijah week there's like three elijah exclusives in a row either that or the social team has just figured out that that guy is solid meme gold anytime you point a camera at him yeah i don't think it actually was but i think it just uh you know became that anyways which is

which is great uh but yeah check that out hopefully you guys enjoy it uh let us know how it goes and that's it oh ltg forum folding update our team is once again participating in the boink pentathlon which runs from may 5th to 19th we strongly encourage anyone interested to participate the ltg team placed third overall last year, which was easily our best so far. Participation is typically quite low since BOINC is a bit more complex than folding at home, but people are willing to help out if you want to learn. So check out more information on the forum, which, I mean, there's a URL for it. But if you just look up the LTT forum and BOINC Pentathlon 2024, a topic made by one of our very own moderators lead eater you will you'll find it and it'll be good and you can do stuff yeah

uh we can do merch all right what's our next topic merch messages merch messages hello ldl have you heard about mram and what do you think it will do for pc insecurity due to its ability to retain the data when powered off uh returning the i i haven't actually particularly heard of this but retaining the data when powered off uh it could be potentially kind of bad there was there was tactics in the past where you would i don't remember was it like was it like liquid nitrogen or something but you you would cool ram down to very very very low temperatures and then swap what system was in and then you could pull information out of it um that was a very interesting potentially really bad information like if there was a um in in some cases plain text essentially storage of um critical system

information or user input yeah yeah now is it super realistic for people to be able to get into a computer uh and like super freeze its ram and transfer it over to another computer uh you know i don't know um but it was a really cool thing um and if that is now able to be done without the uh difficulties of cooling and whatnot that could be a little sketch but yeah yeah. One sec here. There we go. Sorry, I don't have my double tabs. I was in the middle of responding to another one.

Hi, LLD from France. I want to buy a cap since the first announcement, but I think the logo is too big. How do you choose where to place a logo and have you considered a free ad version for a higher price? Ad free version? I mean, we have pretty subtle logos on a lot of our stuff.

I think they just mean branding-free. No, no, no. Free ad. Like a giant logo. For a higher price? Yeah, maybe they do mean ad-free. I think they mean ad-free. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure they mean ad-free. Yeah, I think they mean sponsorship stuff free. Or like branding free. I don't know. I think, honestly, we generally strike a pretty good balance. Even on the hat, yeah, the logo is pretty big. But it's black. It's black on black.

It doesn't stand out a ton. That's kind of a thing, right? Wearing a brand on your baseball cap i i think the the the start of that product was actually people not really buying the dad hats and a lot of the feedback that we got being that they weren't obviously ltt enough so i think this is just one of those things where you're not going to be able to please everybody i really like the new hats it's possible that if they sell really well, we will explore that fit in different styles. But for now, we're really focused on the regular LTT hat and the LTT hat pro.

Yeah, fair enough. Okay, and last one for this section. Howdy, guys. Curious your take on the EPA regulations causing automakers to make changes that may negatively impact reliability. Examples being Toyota's new direction with turbocharged engines. Man. Regulation is one of those things. You can't live without it. I don't know the right answers here. Sometimes it's really obvious. like, you know, hey,

you actually cannot discriminate against your customer. As stupid as they look, those broadband nutritional fax things in the States make a ton of sense given how predatory that industry has been in the past. But it's obvious that sometimes we end up with regulation that's up harming consumers rather than helping um man i was reading about another car one that was to do with all electric targets or something like that and it was it was looking pretty ridiculous too to be clear i'm i'm i'm pro you know sustainable energy or whatever but just you know signing a law and saying okay go innovate um good luck everybody is not is not the move yeah

yeah i don't think i have a lot to add there it just it just sucks like um planned obsolescence is a is a terrible thing um and making things like almost intentionally unreliable is bad but at the same time you don't you don't want to stifle a company from being able to make like a bleeding edge version of something or or an ultra high performance version of something that that just has to lose some of its reliability in order to to push those those limits. So I don't know. Uh, I just became aware of a controversy.

Apparently the edit of our Linus tries influencer foods, um, pushes pretty aggressively to the float plane exclusive where I try more of them. Um, I haven't watched the video. Unfortunately I do review every LTT, but I haven't watched the video, unfortunately. I do review every LTT,

but I don't review every Short Circuit, but people seem pretty upset. And basically, you know what? I'm tired of just taking responsibility for everything. I didn't see this. So yeah, I will message the appropriate people internally and we'll try and find a better balance. Hopefully we can put this behind us.

Is it that bad? I haven't seen it. Have you actually watched it? I'm not sure. Yeah. Okay. Merit. This video was a 16 minute ad for Floatplane. I don't know. Again, I haven't watched it, but you also got 16 minutes of content.

Yeah. That seems highly unlikely. Were you ripped off? I don't... This felt deceiving. Alright, well, yeah. I'll take this to the people internally who made this call, and we'll try and get this sorted out.

The thing is, we are not a big company, but we are a big enough company that, believe it or not, not everyone knows absolutely everything that's going on all the time. And sometimes we're going to make a judgment call that's not going to be right. I think it's pretty clear that the community has spoken, and they're saying this is not right. So we'll do what we can.

We'll get this fixed, okay? Thanks, guys. No more merchant messages okay uh i'm gonna stop with the rational explanations i want to be angry uh check out the escape from tarkov reddit there's lots of anger so much salt if you got if you got something i got a sodium deficiency yeah you got head straight there you're good you'll be taken care of entirely nintendo issues takedowns over gary's mod content following community members noticing that nintendo related fan content was being removed from gary's mod gary newman has confirmed that face punch has received a takedown notice from nintendo quote if you want to help us

by deleting your nintendo related uploads and never uploading again that would help us a lot tell us how you really feel gary yeah uh there are almost 20 years worth of uploads for gary's mod workshop including 5500 items if you just search for the word mario wow uh there were rumors that the notice was fake potentially caused by false copyright trolls but according to gary facepunch has confirmed the veracity of the notice with nintendo and then there's a screenshot of a tweet saying uh i have been or an x or whatever the heck i don't know uh i have been assured that the takedowns have been verified by nintendo as legit so this will now continue as planned sorry and then

i don't even know the emojis that he included it's like a basketball or an arm or like a foot or something garbage can and a mushroom so those those ones are like all right sounds good garbage can mushroom and then i don't know what the hell the thing is anyways um to be clear nintendo is well within their rights here this is their intellectual property uh in this case the the likeness you know of mario is absolutely something that's within their rights it's sort of baffling to me that a gaming company managed to go 20 years without noticing gary's mod um you know maybe that's part of baffling to me that a gaming company managed to go 20 years without noticing Gary's mod. You know, maybe that's part of what makes Nintendo different.

So they just what they don't look at other games. They don't have no one who works there has a gaming computer. Like, I just I don't know. It seems to be working for them. It's working for them pretty good. And I can definitely see how this is really frustrating for people that are like, yeah, we kind of just thought this was OK. It had been 20 years. Our discussion question is, should there be some kind of statute of limitations when it comes to brands not protecting their IP? I believe there actually are,

but I don't think that that would be covered in this case. And it would all come down to the law of the various lands that are involved. I gary is taking an extremely mature approach and the outraged gamers who are frustrated with nintendo's action by all means be frustrated with nintendo they are kind of jerk wads sometimes but this is within their rights and gary is right to comply with them yeah all right speaking of things that uh have to do with right no it doesn't actually but anyways uh net neutrality is back fcc votes to restore obama era rules repealed under trump ftc voted three to two to restore rules that prevent internet providers from favoring some sites and apps over others reserving high speeds for those willing to pay more for them

or otherwise interfering with what consumers do online. Ahead of the vote, FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel, hopefully I said that right, stated, In our post-pandemic world, we know that broadband is a necessity, not a luxury. Opponents claim it will chill innovation and investment in the broadband industry supporters argue that without such regulations broadband providers are incentivized to charge customers more to use internet fast lanes the full 400

page draft order has not yet been publicly released i i will i will say I don't think I heard of a ton of things happening as a result of the repeal of these rules, but I think I'm pretty happy that they might be coming back. So, yeah. Yeah, this is great. There's a few other really important ones that I want to make sure that we hit here. This is actually kind of a big week for news. Yeah. TikTok, this was, we talked about this at the beginning,

Congress has, the U.S. Congress has passed a law giving TikTok's parent company ByteDance until January of next year to sell the app or it will be blocked from U.S. app stores and internet service providers. Is this what it would take for iPhone users to finally say, hey, we need to be able to sideload is this what it would take to make the iphone uncool with gen z's and gen alphas if you couldn't

put tiktok on it because there's no way to sideload an app and tiktok isn't in the app store anyway this forced divestment was passed as part of a large foreign aid package targeted at ukraine israel and taiwan bite dance has promised to fight the legislation in court calling it an unconstitutional infringement on american users free speech rights sources inside the company have told reuters that bite dance leadership would rather tick tock shut down than sell it i honestly can kind of see that it's like this is my ball i'm gonna play with it or i'm going home or take it with me. A major reason lawmakers gave for the decision to force ByteDance to divest from TikTok is the lack of a barrier between the Chinese government and Chinese companies.

National security and privacy experts have expressed concern, both that the app could be used to access sensitive user information and that its algorithm could be used to manipulate public opinion about the CCP. I guess what I'm asking is, why aren't you forcing Facebook to sell to who even? I don't know. Or Twitter to sell to who even? I don't know.

Like if basically your concern in a nutshell is that there's an entity controlling this app that you can't control and that could tune its algorithm for its own purposes i don't know man like i'm not i think that's i think that is that entity is specifically another country because i see where you're going and i do think you're entirely right but uh i think they're like oh this is this is uh what is it, foreign national interference or whatever? I don't remember the term for it,

but I think it's something that they're fighting against. Who do you want to see buy it is our discussion question. Can I say the brackets? Can I say the brackets? Sure. In brackets, it says, don't say Elon. I mean, if you hate tiktok maybe you would like to see i was gonna say i kind of want it to be elon oh man i just i i think the part of me that just like loves to see things burn sometimes, just, you know, why not?

It is entertaining. It's another thing that I don't like or use. So, like, whatever. Speaking of government, the state of California would like to know your location and also your velocity. California Senator Scott Weiner, I'm sure it's not pronounced quite

like that weiner love it initially proposed a bill that would place speed limiters in passenger vehicles to physically oh no this was the thing i was talking about earlier okay yeah that would prevent them from going more than 10 miles an hour over the speed limit starting in 2027. Actually what? However, this has recently been revised to just using visual and audio signals to alert drivers of their speed. Wiener also amended the bill to clarify that drivers would receive one warning each time they go over the speed threshold rather than a constant warning. This version of the bill has passed the Senate Transportation Committee along party lines. The bill is backed by the National Transportation Safety Board, which has pushed for speed limiting systems since 2012, and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has documented a

sharp increase in traffic fatalities nationwide, including in major Californian cities. It should be noted that these speed limit warning systems are not new and are actually set to be mandatory in all new vehicles in the eu starting in july man new cars are gonna be on the struggle bus pretty quick styles here yeah because that's what i was sitting here thinking like it says would place speed limiters in passenger vehicles they mean just new ones right you don't have to like retrofit your car to have a speed limiter in it yeah so i mean given that even seat belts you don't have to have them if your vehicle's old enough i doubt that we're going to see speed limiters retroactively into cars but yeah who knows right so in this case then the used car market is just going to be so like you're going to have used cars from other states being shipped to california because people are going to want to buy older used cars

or i wonder if it's if you could even get just any new car but from out of state like our our car dealerships along the outside but along the californian border gonna be like super popular because you can get non-california uh law compliant cars and then like just you know bring them into california i don't know i don't know how those laws would work i don't know american stuff but yeah ek has given a statement on uh the allegations that they failed to pay suppliers, employees, and contractors for multiple months. CEO and founder Edvard Koenig has released a statement apologizing both for the hardship caused by lack of timely payment and lack of adequate communication. He took over as CEO in February and claims to have already addressed several issues but acknowledged there's still

a long way to go. You know what's funny is this is round two of this. Did you know that? No. Yeah. Edward stepped down as CEO once like 10 or 12 years ago. I can't remember exactly when. EK basically went to crap and then he stepped back in and restored it to its former glory and better.

And then I didn't even know that he was out again. But it seems like something about EK Waterblocks runs best when Edward Koenig, Mr. EK, is at the helm. Koenig claims that EK is committed to fulfilling its financial obligations and regaining community trust. I mean, our discussion question here is a really big one. Why did it take so long to communicate the new plan? Like, that's something that he doesn't have an excuse for, because if he's been CEO for two months, that would have been the time to communicate better. Like we said in the video that featured a bunch of EK parts, though, we are hopeful that they will get themselves out of this because

you know what? I love the product. It's a great product and I want to see them succeed, but obviously that success can't come at the cost of their employees and their contractors, right? It can't come on their backs. So good luck good luck ek godspeed yeah what else we got uh i don't really care about that one is it the cyber truck one nope it's the the braun james tattoo one yeah okay where is this this is pretty cool their naming conventions for their new chips are really

stupid oh you've got snapdragon x elite snapdragon x elite but like with less clocker less clockers yeah so the name is but with what but with what is even the difference for this one what am i even looking at here it just has a different part number it doesn't do dual core boost i think i think there's no dual core boost why is oh that's right and then why does why is plus less qualcomm has said that gaming on these chips will just work with the x series of socs no porting required and this was apparently achieved through a Rosetta 2 style translation layer. It seems they're positioning these chips to be an alternative to AMD's mobile Radions and mobile Ryzens and Intel's Ultra lineup. They've been showing off their Snapdragon X Elite primarily laptops

and claim it can work with discrete GPUs. Okay, that's pretty cool. So having the ability to put an NVIDIA GPU on this thing and just use it as a CPU, it just kind of blows my mind. I don't know why. SemiAccurate.com talked with unnamed OEMs that claim the Qualcomm benchmarks are faked, though, up to 50% higher than what the OEMs can reproduce

with the same X Plus chip. Qualcomm has claimed that the weaker X Plus can deliver 28% better performance in Cinebench 2024 than Intel's Ultra 7155H at the same power consumption. And it looks like there's a few more nodes here, but what this is going to boil down to is, show me the money. Let's see what you guys have actually got going on here. Enough talk.

I'm pretty excited to check these out, though. This could be the Apple Silicon moment for Windows PCs. I would find better battery life. That would be okay. Yeah, we could use it. Who thought naming four products only two different names was cool? I don't mind the plus that much. I think the problem that makes it weird is the placing that it has in this chart.

Because Elite sounds better than Plus. So if Plus was just first and then Elite came after, it would be fine. think the problem that makes it weird is the the placing that it has in this chart because elite sounds better than plus so if plus was just first and then elite came after it'd be fine yeah exactly i guess what's just snapdragon x plus what yeah yeah but there isn't one of those yeah that's fair three of them just being called snapdragon x elite is like definitely the whole problem uh oh well um okay anything else cyber truck thing uh the high school principal thing i'm gonna do the high school principal thing for the for the people playing bingo um high school principal almost messages okay never mind oh yeah sure let's do it let's do a couple merch messages sure i might have to go pretty

soon boys you can carry on a little longer without me but i am fading extremely fast here yeah yes i only got one ring sorry i i didn't sleep last night uh at all and i got on a plane at 8 a.m so i had to be i had to leave for the airport at five. So basically I stayed up working on a paint job, uh, until about four 30. I got a little bit of rest, not sleep, just rest while I packed. And then I headed out for the airport at around five 30. And then I, uh, and then I ate and then i flew and i got a little bit of sleep on the plane but i'm i'm dying but you know what i don't know whether it's the lack of sleep or

whether it's the paint fumes i'm feeling pretty silly today but it was worth it i just got um i got a message from alex that says honestly paint job is pretty sick it's terrible so i just want to get that out there right now it's terrible but that's the intention um you guys might remember that in that we upgraded pluth's car video we alluded to potentially a part two well what we came up with is that we were going to do a part two adding more tech to his car so we added android auto we came up with is that we were going to do a part two, adding more tech to his car. So we added Android Auto. We added a backup camera last time.

And we had teased maybe doing power windows, power door locks, putting in some new headlights. But we can't have everyone internally complaining that we're upgrading Pluth's car and nobody else's. So there had to be a catch. And the catch is that I got to paint his car any color i wanted i'm very excited oh man okay sorry dan go ahead sure let's get through some merch messages here for the curated right now hi dll first time watching live at 42 Just found out that I'm expecting my first child. While you had your family young,

do you have any advice for someone having their first in their 40s? Oh, man. Well, having not tried it yet, knock on wood, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or not ideally. Having not tried it, I mean, I would say the biggest thing that has kept me more aligned with my kids is being into tech, actually.

Like I introduced my kids to Discord, which they use to socialize with their friends. Don't let your kids, you know, move on to, you know, Instagram or move on to the, move on to the platform and then follow them around because that makes you not cool and everything about it not cool. But if you just kind of are staying with it a little bit and you have some idea what's going on, don't underestimate the importance of knowing what the heck they're talking about. Um, and yeah, some of it's going to be kind of stupid. My kids like stupid movies and stupid videos and stupid games.

They tell them, and my kids just got into Fortnite anyway. The point is you're not always gonna, you're not always going to enjoy it, but think of it as work. Little man had such good taste in games forever. I know. Ah,

my soul okay that's fine you know what i haven't shown him uh i haven't shown him warcraft 3 yet and i think that's going to capture his attention so i'm so i'm going to step up my plan is an rts gamer he totally is oh he's a good sign rts yeah yep he's got the brain loves ano um yeah love supreme commander so yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna have him play the warcraft 3 campaign that's uh that's a good one that's a really good one we got dan i get him on factorio maybe not yet but he'll he'll i'm sure he'll like that he won't go to school and i'd like to see him once in a while yeah yeah yeah he's gonna have a he's probably have a better sleep strategy than you uh sorry hi dll how have you managed to keep a good level of structure and tidiness in your test or lab uh places with a growing team working for a company that struggles

establishing good practices while growing i think we struggle with that too same yeah but yeah i did yeah hi deal you're gonna continue sorry yeah do we no ideal i started a job as the hold on we deserve a little bit more credit than that we started by having a pretty big space for them so they were able to spread things out a little bit

they actually do a pretty darn good job of assigning a place for everything we don't always have everything in its place but overall we have a place for everything so We don't always have everything in its place, but overall we have a place for everything, so it keeps things from getting too messy. And we're trying not to rush them. And they've had a forward-thinking plan the whole time.

There was essentially models of where they were going to put things from the very beginning. Yeah. Okay, go ahead, Dan. Righto, one moment ideal i started a job as the it guy for a company not much before was documented i want to document all the processes but would doing that make me replaceable how can i make myself indispensable have good ideas like documenting all your processes and execute it

and totally kick butt at it and then have a new good idea and then do that and then all of a sudden not only will you not be replaceable you'll be indispensable there i had to point this way cannot be yeah the importance of initiative and uh making the company better, regardless of whether it's directly on your quarterly KPIs. The importance can't be overstated. Yeah, and if people are really paying attention and you're just not documenting things as an IT person, you will be very suddenly extremely replaceable. And as somebody who was irreplaceable for about seven years you want to be replaceable

i took four days off in those seven years yeah that too i need to take a friday off when i'm here we gotta we gotta take the context here the context was they are making themselves replaceable by making their job function really, really, really smooth. So it was a very different thing that I was talking about. Constant innovation is not the same thing as being the only guy who knows how to do it.

And so you just get called in the middle of the night by the owner or whatever. Yes, exactly. And he did technically end it with, or whoever this was, um, did technically end it with,

how can I make myself indispensable? So I think Linus' answer was pretty good. Yeah, yeah. You want to be indispensable, and yeah, exactly. Yeah. EveningLD caught a merch message in a March WAN about screen time for kids and thought Linus put out a lot of good info.

Curious Linus, what is the standard bedtime in your house for the kids? Oh man, you got to understand. I got three kids. We were all over that stuff. Like, you know, bedtime routine.

We brushed all the kids teeth by hand ourselves and like always did stories. And it was always at kind of the same time. These days it's like, I don't know. Are you tired? I'm tired. Okay. Kids go to bed. Um, you, you eventually kind of relax on that stuff. Um, generally speaking, one of my kids is a total night owl, my eldest daughter. Um, so I can put her to bed and, you know, at eight 30 and she'll still be awake in her bed, just lying there staring at the ceiling at 10 30 anyway. So what's the point? Um, I'll, so I'll send her to bed if she's like cranky and obviously needs

to sleep. But other than that, she's, um, she kind of sleeps when she's tired. And then the youngest one, we try to get her in bed at, you know, eight 30 and a screen time does end once bedtime starts. Um, however, I mean, my problem as a kid was never screens when I was supposed to be sleeping. It was always books and we do let our kids read in bed. So sometimes they're tired and they're hard to wake up in the morning. But honestly, if I can raise a house of readers, I consider a little bit of lost sleep to be acceptable collateral damage. Fair. Okay, last of the curative I've got for you here. With how bad the car industry is getting, what do you think of a reality involving an open source car? I know we both believe

the vast majority will not own their own cars in the future. Don't those exist? Kit cars? Aren't there kit cars that are effectively open source? So much of making a car is not the car. So much of it is the infrastructure to produce the car.

Like, look how many car companies there are that can make one car or a dozen cars. The problem is that the overhead involved in designing and building a car and setting up for manufacture means that you have to make thousands and thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of cars, or it doesn't make any financial sense. So I don't think that the traditional model of car manufacture is going anywhere anytime soon. But who knows? Hey, Framework raised another, what, like $16 million? Maybe that's their next big expansion. Probably not. I actually, oh, I had meant to kind of speculate on that,

but I think I actually just need to go and lie down for a little bit before this event I'm supposed to attend. Yeah, do it. Get out of here. Maybe next week. Next week, why don't we play a guessing game and see what frameworks next um next investment cycle is going to go into number one was framework 13 number two was

framework 16 number three is something and they're saying it's going to be quite different yeah not a laptop um just investment disclosure yeah yeah all right i think it's not on top i need to go you guys can hang out a bit longer if you want but i really need to go okay bye thanks for tuning in see you again next week same bad time same bad channel um i can't say my thing because i'm not leaving but bye linus um yeah high school principal almost framed for fake racist rant using AI. A clip was posted to a popular Instagram account with the voice of Baltimore County Pikesville High School's principal making racist remarks targeting teachers, students, and parents by name. These included one threat to drag the school's athletic directors. Wow. I'm actually not going to say that.

But it was bad and the clip is still up apparently uh it was convincing enough that it began to spread immediately um emily y says if you don't want to hear it there are a couple points where it sounds off and it's easy to gloss over them because the rest sounds so natural yeah that's rough this stuff is getting crazy students uh faculty and the community believed the clip and really and this led to the principal being temporarily removed and an investigation launched the investigation revealed that it was in fact a fake made by the school's made by the school's athletic director what a twist it's good i love this story it's terrifying that's wild so the athletic director made an ai clip of the principal very negatively calling out the the athletic director um that's rough um the investigation revealed that yeah the smoking gun was that he had used the school computers and his school

email to sign up for the ai voice imitation service and distribute the fake recordings okay forensic and analysis points to a service like 11 labs, which can synthesize voices with just a few minutes of audio. Only the principles union leaders suggested that the clip may be a deep fake. One person. How can we be sure of anything we see or hear anymore? Is there any coming back from this?

In my opinion, not really, to be completely honest. We're in like post-truth or whatever. I'm not getting in the chair. This is Luke's show. You could. That was a I don't want want to i don't care uh that's like a is that okay i i feel bad about that why do you feel bad about it i don't know because this is your your online is a show i'm just here to do merch messages yeah but we used to have guests on the show all the time i think elijah was even like hey can i join and I was like I mean if James says it okay

but I also don't know how long we're doing this show for yeah should be a little while longer I guess a little bit yeah I think we have some other topics the cyber trunk may be bulletproof but it's not waterproof here comes Dan

here comes Dan we're switching can't wait i can't do it oh i don't know how to do there he is yeah i don't actually normally do camera switching you have to do both jobs so he has to he has like i'll just remote into it it's fine it'll be fine oh that's funny uh there we go the cyber truck may be bulletproof but it's not waterproof car wash woes turns out that the bullet resistant truck is not able to handle a bit of water the terms and conditions of the cyber truck say that if you fail to put it into car wash mode your new 80 000 truck can be rendered a paperweight tiktok

user uh captian caption caption.ad went to uh went to the beach with his dogs and then he didn't even pressure wash it but rinsed it out uh rinsed out the bed with a hose and now his infotainment screen is completely non-functional whoa uh this includes the truck's speedometer okay uh charging information and rear camera which is necessary to back up the vehicle because the back window is otherwise too narrow and often obscured by the truck's bed cover several other users have reported problems with corrosion, in part because stainless steel is not rust-proof, merely rust-resistant. All the Cybertrucks were apparently recalled.

Every Cybertruck has been recalled due to a fault with the accelerator pedal. Recall here means that Tesla will be replacing the faulty parts. And, like, slip off, right? Yeah, I think at least part of it will slip off and get stuck and it gets stuck so i've seen that it forces the accelerator down there is the the brake overrides because they're all digital the brake overrides the accelerator cool so if you would press the brake it wouldn't matter that the accelerator was down because you would just break but i mean how long would it take you to realize that you're not

pushing down and how and are you actually going and that controls no that that would override it you can't really put it into neutral and you can't like turn the engine off a lot of the tricks you would do in a gas car are not going to work just right into a wall and a trick that you wouldn't really necessarily do in a gas car does work so it's like yeah yeah it's terrifying not not good um should i use more hot glue maybe uh oh yeah here we go here's the detail specifically it is possible for the accelerator pedal to slide up while flooring it lodging the pedal cover against some trim and causing the pedal to get stuck all the way down rough it seems like a problem was caused by an unapproved change oh yeah sure we've experienced one of those we'll backpack okay i take it back yeah this happens all

the time it was caused by an unapproved change to the assembly of the pedal and introduced a lubricant some soap to help the cover slide on but i guess that stayed there uh the recall also revealed that tesla has only delivered 3878 cyber trucks oh my gosh so how much does the cyber truck cost it's like a hell of a lot of money isn't it people are saying the brakes are physical still um the non-fly-by-wire brakes but the i don't think they've figured that out perfectly yet but the accelerator the accelerator i mean my car has a fly-by-wire accelerator because a lot of automatics will have the automatic cut and blip and things like that, right? I mean, why would they? This is like a $100,000 truck or something like that, flagship product.

I think so. Why are they just like gluing on or slipping over a cover why isn't it like milled aluminum or you know there's a screw in it like one screw right at the bottom one single screw like you know this is just just one right there and then it wouldn't fall off like come on i was seeing people do like uh i don't want to deal with the recall yet but i need to drive my truck a little bit what is my fix? Just take it off. Some of those were pretty funny.

Yeah. You can just take the cover off. You can screw it on yourself. You can do, there's like somebody like. You can screw just right through it. Yeah. Was it going to hurt the resale value?

It's been in the air for like a week. It's already rusted. You've had to clean it. You're not going to get your money back on like the rags and the cleaning fluid for yeah yeah yeah i don't know yeah i can't i can't get uh tesla's website to play nice right now um it's just forcing me to select a language yeah yeah what if i actually just pick one okay now it's working that's weird um a rivet that's a good idea joe one rivet do you know the price of rivets like practically nothing i think they're like four dollars a ton or actually uh what about that uh microwave welding thing where you just like

squoosh it and then oh yeah yeah like i think even the stream deck is made with that stream deck can do it why Why can't Tesla? I bet they make a good car pedal. I don't know. I wonder how good it was before they did the soap thing. Because it was an unapproved change that they're blaming it on, but there wasn't a fastener. Was it just like a friction fit?

Yeah, I'm not sure. Maybe it clipped on. You could have a pretty strong interference fit with like rubbers or metals or things like that uh but why would it need soap like are they putting them on by hand yeah i'm not sure what the manufacturing process was but it was a lubricant to put it on yeah you would normally well why isn't that lubricant glue glue it's slippy a little bit of super glue nice uh nice smooth stuff it just yeah yeah bloody hell whatever obviously they would buy it in higher quantities with bigger discounts but a 50 pack of rivets from home depot is nine bucks canadian stainless steel i think so

goes along with the build goes along with the bill to wash your pedal after every time you get down there but careful don't wash it with too much water because you might short out your It goes along with the build. It goes along with the build. You have to wash your pedal after every time you accelerate. Get down there. But careful, don't wash it with too much water because you might short out your whole truck. Put it in car wash mode first. I was promised utopia. I don't like current year. I don't think I have for a while.

Just make good things. Don't make bad things. We had a discussion question. did we even talk about it what kind of process results in a truck that isn't even weatherproof yeah i don't know man the um ego is it ego is it i'm happy with like what tesla did by existing just like get more interest in EVs. Yeah. But like

this ain't it. I mean, to me on paper, stainless steel car, cool. DeLorean. Yeah. You clean it with gasoline. That's the best way to clean the DeLorean is gasoline. I didn't know that. Yeah.

It cleans stainless steel really good. Which I think is hilarious, because we don't do that anymore, and it's an electric car. And gas is like, what, $3, $4 a gallon now? Nearly $3 a liter here. It's about two pound a liter in America that is over on the other side of the pond. i don't know it's crazy uh apparently this is i don't know this doesn't seem like an

actual official video oh yeah white diesel that makes sense but uh here's their fix i thought this was a do-it-yourself version of the fix because I've seen this video. I didn't think this was Tesla's fix. Yeah, I mean, just literally that. So I think this was... So when I saw the one that was claiming this was a DIY fix, people were saying, no, it's official. Okay, I don't know.

But this looks like just like a 3D printed block that ensures that you line it up properly. And then I think they're drilling a hole and then just riveting the hole i think is the whole thing we'll see here in a moment so it's coming back yeah drilling a hole in it wait for it wait for it there we go there it is looks like a rivet to me i'm not a fan of rivets they're not serviceable yeah yeah me too i'm gonna have to drill that out right to repair i mean you could drill it out though

yeah but i agree robertson in there uh an open future is on the horizon get it because that's the name of the operating system uh meta is opening its quest vr headset software now called horizon os to third-party devices meta has already uh included three official partners planning to planning on creating horizon os based headsets including a gaming focused device from asus a learning focused device from lenovo and a limited edition meta quest in collaboration with xbox meta apparently wants its os to become the android of virtual reality a major benefit for users is the ability to bring profile information across devices and device manufacturers and cross-device compatible programs and games.

Adam thinks a major downside for users is the ability for Meta to track even more of you, which is, I'm sure, 100% of the reason why they want to do this. Yeah, that seems like the reason anybody does anything these days. Oh, we released this new pair of software. It's open and free. We get all the information uh discussion question would a default platform shared between various headsets be a boon to vr do we trust zuckerberg to be the man with the plan uh what's in it for mark after the mediocre launch of the vision pro is meta feeling bullish or bearish on the vr market as a whole what about you a lot of questions actually that is a lot of questions i'm a computer tethered guy yeah my headset's a screen one of the reasons

i switched to the index over the the uh i still call it the cv1 because i was a dk1 boy been there from the start yeah get in there for the dev stuff too yeah uh is because the lighthouse system is a little bit more open to third-party trackers and like tracking and things like that than maybe a closed system or even inside out right um but i mean i would like to see the software at least being a little more open um i don't even see why the headsets couldn't just be like tethered headsets, but you would attach a computer module to the headset. So you kind of have like headset driving companies and then maybe also headset display companies.

Like the Index had a plug on the top and I could just pop an Oculus Android phone. Yeah, so it's really turning into like computer and monitor. Yeah. Instead of all in one device. Yeah. Yeah, so it's really turning into computer and monitor instead of all in one device. Yeah. I like the idea of someone putting a sticker on their headset that's like, my other VR headset is a computer monitor. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that makes sense. A lot of the good stuff. Yeah, I think the shared between... I think they're bearish, right? And I think... Seems like like it i think a lot of people maybe have been moving away from games because developing games for vr is really hard it's a very limited platform you don't really have too much that you can do uh in the space

and then productivity like is that better uh you know i've got this here my head is unencumbered apart from some headphones and i do know people all of the people that i know that kept their apple vision pros and especially the people that i know that are happy with them are people that travel a lot and work while they travel i think that's reasonable and and travel might even be... It's a very expensive productivity tool. What are your productivity gains versus the amount that you've spent on it? Are you making X amount of dollars more than you would? Or is it for fun?

Or is it for writing? I don't know. I think there's got to be a little bit of tech passion involved um but i think you've got the if you've got the tech passion and you can excuse it as like a productivity for work slash business expense i think those people you want to sell it to yourself i guess yeah yeah i can i can certainly see that i think if i had the disposable income and needed that use case, then, you know, maybe I would buy it. I still haven't gotten to try it. Um, it seems to have disappeared, but I don't know. Just spatial computing is a concept. I'm not sure. It's an interesting one. Uh, Avery studio says, are they using it while in the middle

of traveling? Yeah, totally. Like I said, on use it on a plane right on a on a plane passenger seat in a car something like that train yeah in an automobile yeah um people are definitely using them i just i think it's a lot less common than obviously when it first came out um maybe it's kind of settled into it's like 600 more hardcore users who are actually going to get some use out of it yeah maybe getting it and seeing that it's a toy unless you actually really want to use it. Like a super powerful computer is a good toy. A $4,000, $5,000 computer to play games on. Very expensive toy, right?

Yeah. As a productivity tool, also pretty expensive. It could be reasonably productive on a laptop, but it's better to be productive on a desktop. So maybe that's the kind of comparison. And there's also some privacy benefits. Absolutely. If you're on a plane

and you're not in like first class because you didn't feel like remortgaging your house to fly somewhere. You could have bought vision pros. Yeah, exactly. Uh, then,

then other people might be able to see your screen and depending on what you're working on, that might actually not be okay. You might want to protect your slash fiction, you know? Yeah. All that sort of stuff. Totally.

Nobody wants to see your weird Harry Potter stuff. I got to buy a vision pro, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. of thing yeah if it helps the productivity of uh of that then yeah why not um how about a bike i don't know man i don't think you can take those on planes i think they meant using it while you're on a bike i think maybe if it's a tandem bike and you're in the back, you could make it work. I think, what, it's 12 milliseconds of delay?

Something like that? I'm sure you could find a way to bike around with it. Maybe once the FOV gets better. I'm waiting for glasses. For me, super high quality AR glasses. We're not there yet, but yeah. That's where I'm okay with like, all right, now I'm going to consider glasses being a productivity tool, right? My biggest thing

right now is it's something that's going to go in your face. So if you want wide market adoption, it needs to not be really ugly. I think for me like the solidarity the solidity of physical objects right um when i'm being productive or i'm working on stuff the last thing i want to be separating my brain into is the management of my environment right so i'm working on things and then suddenly there's a window here, but I need it over here or something like that. With a mouse, it's really easy to just boop. But now kind of I'm dealing with floating windows and they have to be in 3D space and I have to manipulate them. And now I'm trying to conceptualize where my productivity is going. And maybe you would get

used to that. So this is is kind of it's very new um you know i can do that on a computer maybe less experienced users struggle with that right i have no idea if this is a thing or not so i might be talking about a thing that already exists but something that you might like is if someone made an app where you could set up like a workspace and you could have multiple workspaces and then the things within that workspace are contained to that like plane you know what i haven't seen yet which would be amazing for inside out and like the oculus and even the vision pro stuff like that is just fiducial markers yeah you know uh this is where my computer marker this is where my computer monitor is you just put a little qr code fiducial marker thing on the desk, and now it is there.

Or, you know, you put it on a coaster. You get a coaster like this. AR things are already a thing. We've already got the AR Amiibo things as well. Totally, yeah. Computer monitor, right there. And then it's just there. You want to move it a bit, you just interact with a physical object, right?

Not everything has to be digital. That'd be kind of neat, yeah. And you could represent it in virtual reality with something that looks a little bit better, with just like a command orb or something near that area, so you know where to reach to grab it, even if it's projecting a larger... Oh, if you were in full dive, right? But if you were doing some AR stuff, then yeah. Then you could just see the coaster, I guess.

I mean, that kind of works already with index and individual trackers and things like that. They are represented, so I don't know. Yeah, maybe. Pokeball marker. Yeah, I like that. Use whatever you want. Pokeball marker? I don't know.

Mystical said that. I don't. Sure. Sure. I mean, you could change it to whatever you want. Yeah. Should we do some merch messages? Oh, yeah. that's a thing that i was supposed to be doing uh you can do it from here i know but i was supposed to be doing that while i was here oh whatever it's fine uh i think we

have only incoming yeah because i didn't do any of them because there's nobody over there anonymous said uwu uh you can archive those with the button at the bottom no i will show it the whole stream has to be subjected to an uwu message coming up at the bottom it will happen in queue god this is what i have to do with all day the float plane chat is currently spamming uwu I have so much power now this is awful disembodied head of Linus do you have any recommendations for podcasts well he's gone

so I guess we can take this one over no it was to all of us I just read the disembodied head of Linus took me by surprise more interesting do you listen to podcasts no I don't. I know a lot of people that do,

and I was attempting to work on one for a while with a friend. Oh. It was like a book reading more than anything, little slash fiction novels. I think they were like vintage bodice rippers from the 1950s that had all been kind of lost to time. I think they were like vintage bodice rippers from the 1950s. It had all been kind of lost to time. Very, very interesting kind of like fiction, like the birth of fan fiction almost.

Super underground kind of thing. Crazy. And got a lot of them that are very rare. So that was kind of extreme amounts of work like an unbelievable quantity of work um otherwise no there's some cbc ones yeah really good yeah i've heard of that uh i don't listen to many um for a while there when i first started trying to do weight loss stuff my like knees and a lot of things were super messed up. So the best thing for me to do was to just go walk for an hour and a half basically every day.

So I was listening to a lot of podcasts at that time. But that was a little bit over a year ago at this point. And the podcast that I mainlined at that time was The Yard and Huberman Lab podcast. Huberman Lab was like a lot of cool, interesting information. I was trying to be more healthy. There's a lot of information for that in that podcast. So that was cool. And The Yard, it was just, it's just like hanging out with the bros.

So it was more casual. I think you've talked about that before when we were doing some of the set redesign and stuff like that. Oh, their set for the yard is incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would never really watch it because, I don't know, if I'm, this is like, I don't really watch TV shows or movies at home either. If I'm like sitting at home and I need a recreational activity, I'm going to play games. So I would never really like watch their podcast. But if I was going out on a walk, one thing that was nice is I think their podcast is usually around an hour and a half long.

So it was a good like, okay, I'll start it when I start walking. And when it ends, that's when I'll end. Therefore, I'm not like checking the time all the time and going like, okay, I only got five minutes left. It's like, no, it's just whatever the podcast ends. Just keep going. Keep moving until then. Just keep going, keep moving until then. I think for me, like, I don't like,

it's taken me a long time to get used to listening to things again in my free time because I was working from home a lot. And of course, what I used to do for work, right? I can't really listen to music or listen to podcasts while I'm doing video editing. Yeah, totally. Or like working on podcasts or music. So now I just silence. Like I go to the gym with you. I don't have any headphones. I don't have or music. So now I just silence. Like I go to the gym with you.

I don't have any headphones. I don't have any music. I don't take an MP3 player with me. I'll go on walks and stuff like that and just listen to nothing. It's like, it messes people up sometimes. Like I'm not that weird guy at the gym who's just like raw dogging it,

just listening to nothing and enjoying it. I can be totally down with the nothing, but if I want to do something really high effort in the gym, I like having music because it zones me in. That's what I'll do at work. So it helps me get into those extremely deep flow states. Yes. I don't think I necessarily have gotten into that point at the gym. So it helps me get into those extremely deep floats flow states. Yes. Um,

I don't think I necessarily have gotten into that point at the gym. Um, maybe eventually maybe. Yeah. I don't know. I just, yeah, it helps me shut off everything else and just like really pour into the one thing that I'm trying to do.

Um, helps me hit failure levels, stuff like that. But yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't, uh,

similar problem. I can't really listen to a podcast and do anything relatively heavy um so unless i'm walking or driving then it's not really super relevant my commute to work isn't super long so it would take me like days to get through a single podcast which i'm not super interested in so. Sometimes CBC on the radio has them. I like listening to CBC on the way in, mostly because it doesn't have advertisements, but sometimes music.

They have a podcast playlist, which is one of their segments where they recommend really good ones. One thing I will say is with the death of Google Podcasts, I recently was doing something that was very boring and monotonous, and I needed a podcast to listen to. So I tried to pull up some podcasts that I just spoke about, Human Lab and The Art, because I was like, I don't know, I know these. And I tried to do it through YouTube Music.

What a horrible experience. I really wish Google Podcasts was still around. YouTube Music is not an appropriate replacement for Google Podcasts, in my opinion. There's a lot of difficulty with it. My understanding is that you could really use anything you want because it's on the back of RSS. Yeah. So when we upload to our platform, it goes everywhere all at once. Which whoever decided it was going to work that way, great job.

Fantastic. No notes. Yeah. Like genuinely like genuinely yeah and how ownership is handled right because we've had to transfer them a few times yeah we used to be on spotify now we're on a new thing called megaphone which allows us to manage all four or five of them at the same time which still goes to spotify and apple and everywhere else like that and they're all posted automatically i learned that because when I was experimenting with how podcasts work, I uploaded the Joe Rogan podcast to iTunes,

and I just had control over it because it's just an RSS thing, and you can just go like publish podcast, and then the entire catalog gets pulled automatically. Whoa. It's really interesting. Very strange. Now I understand why merch messages diverge so much.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes sense. You're experiencing it. I don't even know. See, what was the root question? Do you know any good podcasts or something like that? We didn't go that far off, I guess. Just a little bit.

Yeah, I guess so. We didn't go that far off, I guess. Just a little bit. Yeah, I guess so. Are there any plans for LTT to release a bit set case for storing all the bit sets? In the works. And perhaps spots for screwdriver, stubby, precision, and shaft extension? All of that sort of stuff, my understanding is in the works currently. I think there are some ideas to maybe release some 3D prints

or something like that so you can do it yourself while we're still working through that. I know Linus gave away one of the bit sets during the Wii, the stream, the Whatnot stream.

And I've seen some other mockups as well. A bunch of people made their own. Yeah, that's cool. And I think they have like 3D files out for it. Yeah. and i think that we're also trying to set up like a um i can't remember what the platform is but we're trying to set up a repository where we can dump all the 3d prints right because i make i make a lot um a lot of people here make a lot of internal oh you mean oh okay sorry i was talking about uh 3d prints made by community members no i think they should still control those yeah you know uh but i'm sorry we're

talking about completely different things yeah yeah yeah so i'm talking about both at the same time so we have ones that we've done and also people in the community have made them and you can either download theirs or ours or design your own. But are ours available at all yet? I have no idea. I don't believe so. I don't think so. There's still two in flux. We're planning on maybe doing that at some point. But right now you can find community ones and download them and print them. I think

ours is just going to be for bits, but I don't know. I'm sure Nick Light will message me and I will ignore that, but that's fine. Any updates with Flowplane not working on Amazon Firestick? No. I didn't know it ever did do something better yeah sorry um oh we were talking about tyson tv the other day and and the vimeo player not being able to like google cast or apple cast or cast or something like that i don't't know. Video sucks. What's wrong with you?

Why would you do this? I don't. Like on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Flowplane. One of my main jobs these days is trying to fight any amount of expansion to Flowplane scope. Because it's like, my goodness, we do so many things already.

I got signed out of all my accounts and I have to log in again i'm actually not yeah jayden's saying in full plate chap it's a it's a mobile app not a tv app yeah yeah yeah sorry about that uh hello when when are the new backpack carabiner coming out um i have no idea soon just say soon to everything soon tm there you go yeah i know they're they're working on it i i think they like seeded some of them out or something and they're waiting for feedback maybe that's not even sort of true i have no idea idea. Wrong person to ask, unfortunately. You might be able to hit up CritterRap. Rise up. What up, what up?

It's connected now? We're live again? Uh. Uh. Uh. Hello? No, I'm not seeing anything but people are saying we back we back can i get some uwus in the chat stop got him hey everyone's spamming let's go leaves for one minute

my gosh it's alive oh my goodness see you later tiktok you're no longer the favorite get out of here at least we got rgb now yeah so uh people watching on other platforms the dot wan dot show on tiktok is apparently where we're streaming wan show in the future and that was the only platform We're back again? What's happening? What's happening? What? this is why i'm supposed to stay behind the desk every time your fault okay okay your fault are we are we gone again maybe i'm still showing if chat can hear me when we're live and it's

working you gotta spam oo's and when it dies you got to spam f's i want all of the chats on all the platforms to go as fast as possible when i'm at my computer normally a ping 8888 right ping 8888 t this is this is my keep alive your keep alive is now this is mechanical turk for for for dns uh pings. It's kind of working. It is working. We're getting UUs. I have very effective status checks in all of the chats that I can see. It's real time.

It's a lot faster than ping. All of the chats I can see are just UUs right now. And it's global. Which means we're working. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's a way to communicate with all of the places that we're streaming. Well, my heart rate's up.

I'm enjoying this. There was one of the sponsor spots earlier. I started cracking up because it was like Acronis. I'm going to give you guys another shout out, I guess. It says, according to a study by Cyber Security Ventures, a cyber attack took place every 39 seconds last year. Trust me, being hacked is not fun. And I was like, it's kind of fun. This is not a suggestion.

Please don't do it. I certainly had fun, yeah. But we had a wonderful time. As long as there's no permanent damage, it can be an exciting experience. Yeah, we were talking about that and that rise to action that happens almost immediately. Did I ever tell you the story about the car that was set on fire outside of my house?

No, but everyone's still spamming uwu, so I know we're still good. So please tell me. Nice. I mean, well, when we got hacked, both of us like immediately jumped into action and it was kind of like, oh, okay, go. And almost like detrimentally kind of activated, I guess. and almost like detrimentally kind of activated, I guess. But, you know, I had met a couple of friends at university and I was driving them back to my place for the first time, kind of like, you know, new budding friendships and like,

all right, we're going to come hang out. And as I'm pulling like up my street and into my driveway, there's kind of like a fire down at the end of the road, which is weird, like a big fire in the street. And it's kind of like a fire down at the end of the road which is weird like a big fire that in the street and it's kind of down over a hill and so i didn't even think like i just stopped the car and got out and then just ran down the street i didn't even say anything to like the two people who i'm with i'm like i had i was like casual friends with these people uh and this was like the first experience oh we're gonna go hang out with dan and he's just the fire he just leaves and so i start sprinting down the street and i

get over the top of this hill and like okay so it's a car set on fire and i sprint up to it and there's this poor woman there who is obviously freaking out um and i just basically because i understand in the bystander effect people just freeze And what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to tell people what to do. And for me, it was like, call 911. But like, she was on the phone. And I just kept like pointing and yelling at her. Are you talking to 911? Or like, are you talking to the police or something like that?

And so this guy, it was night. so this guy just comes running down the hill and starts getting and so I'm pretty sure that she might have been freaked out a little bit this car was not hers uh it had most likely been dumped there and abandoned and set on fire after like a murder so not only that is someone screams down her street dumps a car sets it on fire and then like a few minutes later this random stranger comes hurtling down the street anyway yeah so uh maybe don't scream at people who are in a crisis who have already done the thing that they need to maybe not the greatest idea uh but i i will bring attention again to that my entire screen is just various chat spamming uwu um why do you do this which i'm enjoying

very thoroughly uh usually i don't like it when people just spam chat super hard no but right now while we're still trying to figure out like what even just happened it is kind of useful to have like very up-to-date real-time information based on if people are receiving the stream or not for me uh my my favorite is the eye emoji just the single eye emoji wo i'll post that and chat will disappear immediately i really like okay floatplane chat is now drawing uwu with ascii art so they're they're evolving they have uh they need help uh what do i do a linus laptop is that how that works there you go that one that's my favorite oh that's pretty good horrifying that is yeah that's like eldritch uwu

stares into your soul that would make me feel better uh okay so what were we talking about we were talking about we just got into you in game dev so ue 5.4 5.4 yeah so um one of the things that i learned recently is that doing vectorized text in game engines is extremely difficult which doesn't make a whole lot of sense um and so vectors in general are like really complicated to actually do in a in a game engine and i was kind of racking my bread my brain around how i'm going to be doing some sorry youtube youtube chat has adopted your uwu and they're doing the eyes oh i gotta see that rare win for for youtube chat i've watching all of the chats is particularly enjoyable. I gotta get these open. This is sick. I will not give you $250.

Yeah, please. Yeah. No. It says the stream's finished. Like, is it? No, there we go. Yeah. Don't scare me like that.

Yeah, thanks YouTube chat. That's horrible. I hate this. Oh, there's Target Eyes one. Oh, the Target Eyes one is good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's cursed.

With the lips. Oh, boy continue i don't know this is also good this is this is literally my screen right now it's just all the chats do you want to show it up uh sure yeah if you don't have anything for uh what that? Oh, that's the log. Does that go to them? No, that's what we can see. Okay, okay. I was like, hide it! No, that's my command window.

That's my external thing to make sure that no frames are dropping. Oh, cool. Okay. Oh my god. Anyway, so Unreal Engine 5.4 has officially come out. It's been in preview for a little while now. And they have all of these new systems. They've got this motion combining for animations, this state-based thing that's really, really robust and simple to use. They've got a whole bunch of new animation tools.

But the coolest thing is the motion graphics design stuff. I don't know if you've seen any of this. No, I just saw that it was was happening actually bonkers like i i was like i got a little flustered it's like incredible so um basically you've got niagara particle simulations um you've got you know the new lumen engine right so? So you can have unlimited polygons and then real-time particle simulations, real-time physical simulations, laser scans. And now they've introduced vector graphics

as well as Boolean operations, layers like in Photoshop. They have a new texture designer, like Substance 3D, Substance Material Editors, that sort of thing. You can now do that entirely in Unreal Engine. And it's all real-time. So if you're doing 3D modeling or motion graphics or stuff like that, normally you'd use

Cinema 4D or Blender or something like that. But now you can do that in real-time with real-time lighting. And it's also all programmable because it's still a game engine, right? so you can use blueprints and do your vector animations and everything like that so basically this is

incredible for so many things it's good for me what i was going to say what are you going to use it for so um i wanted to use it for an intro video as well as having some scalable UI elements. One thing that I was finding that were particularly difficult inside Unreal Engine was being able to adapt to different screen sizes. Okay, so let me chat. Relax. At this point, you guys are taking the spamming more seriously than the ooh-woo. You guys got to chill.

I think some of you even have like bots running or auto clickers or some or auto input things or something relax relax a little bit damn at this point i literally can't even read it because it's going faster than youtube chat significantly yeah um chill dudes chill it's getting faster you're not helping maybe not, I will stop addressing it. Maybe it will go away. Anyways, yeah, so you want to use it for an intro video? Yeah, so... Have you ever seen HAL 9000? 2001 Space, obviously, that sort of thing.

A lot of those computer graphics that were on the screens themselves physically are very much like blank color plus lines and they're all beautiful grids and they look futuristic and it's all blocky text, right? And that kind of theme was also repeated in Alien and Aliens and that sort of like 80s level kind of CRT technology but a vision of the future. And a lot of it is extremely thin single lines. And a lot of it is extremely thin single lines. And if I want to have this be adaptable

to different screen sizes, one thing that I hate is playing on my 4K C2 OLED and then the textures are all like squishy. Yeah. Because they're small. Now you can do that with vectors, which means unlimited scaling. And then they've also introduced real-time Boolean operations,

so you can push objects into other objects, and you can also animate graphics over time. Define your push objects into other objects thing. Boolean operations would be like, here's your cylinder, and then I want to make, here's your cylinder, and then I want to make a cut in this cylinder so I have an invisible card, and then I push them together. So I haven't altered this geometry.

Traditionally, Boolean would be done in something like Blender. So you would have to cut a hole in the geometry. Why do they call this Boolean? Because it's like add and subtract. So if I take these two objects and this one's a subtract

it would cut into this or if i were to have this as an additive object it would increase and it would still be one object but it's made up of multiple objects and the geometry becomes one single like entity yeah and normally you would do that operation in something like blender or traditional um and then you would you would uh like finalize something like Blender or traditional and then you would finalize it so that object would become solid and then you'd have to re-topo the whole thing, right? Because all of those curves and things are going to be destroyed.

Now you can do that in real time so I could animate the movement of objects through it. And then huge thing, most of my game is entirely made of instances, right? It's got like one cube and then everything's instance. So it's performative. Yeah. Yeah. You can instance in the motion thing and then simulate real time nanite

particles on your objects. And with Lumen as well, say, the example I saw the other day was a, it was a donut. They had like a billion. Donuts are surprisingly common. Yeah, yeah. So obviously a cool example, but they had like a billion donuts being rendered in real time with shadows.

Sheesh. And also real-time physics. So every single version is incredible. And this one, for me personally, has a lot of features that i'm going to touch a lot of complaints with unreal engine for a long time is that you're basically modifying like you're making a mod for a first person shooter rather than making your own game right it's hard to do a different genre and it it's slowly getting better. And I think it's slowly becoming just the most insane engine. Oh, yeah.

Obviously, it's like character-driven focused with the animation tools. But I think we're also going to see a lot more animators coming out of this too, right? The way that you can do rigging and animation things, and they've automated a lot of the process, and they've also made it a little bit more intuitive to do and simple. For me, learning 3D modeling is almost impossible for characters, especially because I just can't get past weight painting. I don't know how to make a good rig.

And then if you want to make changes to that rig, you would have to take it out of Unreal, right? And you'd have to re-export it and get your objects back and then re-trigger everything. And maybe your animations in Unreal were all broken. But now it's a little bit more self-contained. I suspect people might, especially people that have been in the scene for a while,

because when you start looking into game development, there's a lot of, like, use this variety of tools to accomplish your end goal, right? It's a very common engine, right? I think people might underestimate how much needing one thing will lower the barrier of entry for people. This is going to lower the barrier of entry for me, who is kind of already over the initial hump. Yeah. Like I know basically how all these programs

work and which ones i'm supposed to be using i'm still just garbage at them all um but now that that efficacy of getting to a level right the barriers for blender are like okay well welcome to blender learn 400 shortcuts please and then of course they released 3.8 and i had to relearn like all of them or whatever the version is that they changed it and i had just i just learned them all and that's me because i'm a beginner right i think there's also even just like the the question of what game engine should i use is already difficult enough for people what game do you want to make yeah i don't know well then i don't know what do you play yeah I don't know. What do you play? I like lots of stuff.

Why are you making a game? After that kind of lines of questioning, why? Because you think it's fun or cool? I think a lot of people, especially in high school, might be doing it just to try something, to learn something, whatever.

Pick one. Learn all three at the same time. So you have decision paralysis on the game engine, but then you also have decision paralysis on all the things that are associated. It gets worse. And it does not get better. And then what everybody forgets about is audio. So now do you go with FMOD or WOOWISE? Pick one.

FMOD is... So FMOD is like the audio plug-in for all of these engines. And then the direct competitor is WOOWISE. WOOWISE. WOOWISE. I don't know actually how it's supposed to be pronounced, unfortunately. I like WOOWISE. I like WOOWISE.

It goes along with bing. pronounce unfortunately i like wise goes along with um but i know that that wise is more industry focused and f mod is way more approachable okay yeah but they're still like okay well yeah you could do the audio inside your engine but it's better to have another tool that modifies that but now you're learning that like it took me a while to understand that i even had to change my mindset when doing ost work because now like celeste is probably the best example that uses fmod i think i've told you this before i think this is accurate but celeste has every single piece of music playing simultaneously throughout the entire game uh and then it just dynamically picks between them and fades between them when it's appropriate, right? Like, okay, and now I have to program that. So not only are you working inside Unity or your game engine, now you have to have the conceptual kind of understanding of this thing is happening,

what process and what variable do I write that the game is going to modify that is then referred back to my audio system that then gets modified there and there's two different layers of there you have on or off or you can have floating point stuff but then the graphs that modify the sound

inside FMOD are different and then you can also have global variables inside fmod to manage a bunch of stuff and then there's bus tracks and reverb and now I'm working with steam audio which is like a ray tracing system for like

real time projections and then like I just wanted to make an RTS and I want my 10 years back I just wanted to make an RTS. I want my 10 years back. So which one do you... You said there's one that's more industry focused and one that's more approachable.

Which one are you using for your non-hobby project? I would use Fmod for both. Okay. Mostly just because I kind of like Fmod. And that's the more approachable one already? I think so. I think actually for my personal project, I will just try Wise.

You know, I think it's probably a good opportunity to learn it. Yeah. And if it doesn't work, you know, stick back to Fmod. Yeah, cool. I learned Substance Painter. Substance Painter is a lot easier to get your head around after you understand how it works. It's not like Photoshop.

It's about, it does it for you, but you have to kind of make it do it for you. And your personal project one, you said it's a 3D game? It is a 3D game, which is one of the reasons why I went with Unreal Engine. I did try to remake it in Godot. Do you know which one it is? I believe it's gado i i hear people that i like saying go dot work in it semi-professionally say it both ways i'm not sure i mean it might be it might be like a bunch of different pronunciations yeah yeah anyway sorry

but yeah 3d 3d engine um but it's quite static the problem is that there's a lot of rotations and there's a lot of vector math and there's a lot of rotations and there's a lot of vector math and there's a lot of automatic generations and objects. And it can be a little bit complicated, especially trying to keep it performative. Yeah, sorry. Sorry, everyone just noticed the dead pixel. Where?

Is it dead pixel? There. Oh, crap. I think people have been spamming about it oh no let me look is it yeah yeah oh no yeah yeah yeah I mean these cameras are getting on a bit

luckily at least people only noticed it now so it's not going to drive them nuts for the whole stream that one looks okay yeah I think you're good oh no That one looks okay. Yeah, I think you're good. Oh! Oh, no.

I can't even point at that one. No, it's too far. I see it, too. Does my hand get in this screen? Yeah. Up there! Yeah, okay. Well, all right.

Oh, no. So it's not every camera, but two of them? Whatever. Whatever. What was that? Someone threw these at us. That's cool. Get out of here. That's not even sponsorship.

Cube. 3D. Why did that just happen? Don't think about it. Why did you decide to go with... Blueprints. I like Unreal because of blueprints. Blueprints are phenomenal for a really approachable way of getting programming done.

It's maybe, it's not quite as performative as programming in C++. Obviously, there's some overhead, but they're good. And you can also use them to move into C++ because you can write blueprints and each little node is basically just a C++ object. So you can dive into them and write a custom blueprint node yeah so that's a good answer and a good point and I do also think blueprints are cool but what I really meant was why did you decide to do 3D for this game because the way that you've described it to me needs to be so why because of the way that the space is represented.

So I wanted it to feel claustrophobic. Oh, okay. And the limiting space factor also had to be in 3D. So you've seen the Windows 95 screensaver with the pipes, right? Yes. Love it. So it's that. Always loved it. But as a game yeah and like a resource management it's a resource management game so you're inside a cube yeah right and each

of the walls are kind of like your factories or whatever you want to think about it however you want to abstract it away this one makes this number go up this one makes a different number go up and each of them have different requirements and you have to connect them together with wires, basically, like pipes, right? And so if you can think about laying pipes in 3D to each of the walls, and I think there's something like 400 individual node points that are available for me to use, at least, maybe maybe not to the player that's a little bit ridiculous so now we've got 400 nodes 400 nodes 400 nodes and now all of the wires have to connect to each other like the difficulty is in managing those connections and figuring out where they go

and like even just how to route them and how to keep them organized i don't know if you've ever played factoria or something like that, but keeping the belts all pretty and like flowing and organized is kind of like a fun way to, uh, to play Factorio or you can do spaghetti. Um, and the resource in this game is the walls.

Yeah. So like the amount of space you have on the walls. That's right. Yeah. And then, yeah, I guess you'll like tech up over time and whatnot. Yeah, so like the amount of space you have on the walls, right? That's right. Yeah, and then, yeah, I guess you'll like tech up over time and whatnot. Yes, exactly. But to replace something, you have to destroy it. Which might at least temporarily ruin economy, I'm assuming? It's actually like you're yourself.

Oh. So you die. Oh! Because you're the computer that the outside walls are powering and so it can cause cascading failures so you like you delete one little module and you didn't lay out your wires so all the wires go away right and now you have to trace back and find it and you have like 30 40 seconds or something like that to get the new module and the wires plug back in. Or, or like,

yeah, no, no, you run out of power and die. Critical failure. Critical failure. Blue screen. And I just added this new system called abstraction where you can add in

another cube next to it and have resources that pass through the walls. And I spent like three hours working on this dolly zoom thing where the cube comes into your view, which is normally an isometric, right? And then it pulls out into orthogonal, right? And then you can move around and pick your next cube and then you zoom back in, right? And so now not only are you managing with the wires that are going in the cube, you're now managing cubes on top of cubes, right? So my elevator pitch is like factorio inside a 4d hypercube yeah yeah right so it's factorio in 3d space but if you fuck up

the wires you die sorry i always forget i don't even think it's playing right now whatever it's fine um yeah okay there's a fun sort of offshoot tangent do you want to explain how the swear button works because you just said i don't think it's playing right now and i think people might not necessarily understand what that means oh yeah so swear button is a track inside reaper um and it has a tone that is like the c a 400 or whatever it is uh that is like the CA400 or whatever it is that is the swear noise. And then the swear button here actually just solos that track, which mutes all of us.

Because if I were to put a swear bleep over just my mic here, Luke's mic would pick it up anyway, right? So I have to kill all of the mics simultaneously, right? So that's a pretty quick and easy way to do that. If you push it, you still have to push the button. Sorry. I'm trying to go through merch messages while we're talking about this.

A significant amount of merch messages are just, ooh. You know, worth it. It's worth the $10. which is making my job a lot easier right now so i appreciate it yeah um what else can we talk about i don't know what's going on dude you mentioned something about trying godot oh yeah i've been i've been doing that game dev all the time i have a lot of thoughts uh they will get me well i mean we're just tangenting on to more game dev yeah so i don't know i'm just trying to keep the conversation i'm new at this okay yeah i mean i i've been doing

it just as like a learning thing like i i feel like you're going on a direction of you might actually like do something with this i've made like 15 games sorry i have failed at making 15 so i'm there that's a good way of saying it i'm planning on failing on making it you will fail at making a lot of games and the more games you fail at making this goes for you guys out there too the more times you fail the more times you've done a thing at all yeah fair enough yeah so like but like i'm not even necessarily the plan isn't even necessarily to ever succeed yeah i'm just having fun poking around i was having fun initially and then i'm kind of like wow uh like i got past minimum viable product okay i got to play it for

like the 20 seconds that you could what that was that was fun did you did you die did your robot die i no i mostly just die because i'm testing to make sure it triggers properly right and at what point you the chain, you delete the wrong wire, you die. You delete the end point. That's feeding another thing. You die.

You delete the middle point. You die. Uh, right. You need to keep that. And so like redundant systems and I don't know, it's going to be ridiculous. I think it'll be fun.

Yeah. I'm still, I'm still just working on clear codes. Clear code has this tutorial on YouTube. That's 11 and a half hours long. And then you realize that there's like a three hour extension to it and it's like oh my goodness i sent that to a friend recently he wants to get into game dev it's fantastic it's really really good um he even knows what he wants to make that's nice and he hasn't changed what he wants to make in a couple

years i change what i want to make essentially every time i sit down and work on it but that's i'm completely okay with that right now because i'll just like blow up everything i've done and i want to learn how to make this system yeah yeah it's like what if i what if i did these things would that work and then i smash it together i'm like no or yes or whatever else yeah yeah here's some advice don't do anything with an inventory system yeah that sounds great ever yeah my current plan is to do so but i mean it'll probably change by next you might actually know how to handle that probably better than i don't know i don't do not make an rpg i will shoot you that is 100 the current plan my my current plan suck so the the game that i currently want to make um the game that i currently want to make i would not be able to release because there's too much like it entirely leans on another ip oh yeah so i i want to remake in 2d

a like old school rpg version of the starting town for wood elves in uh everquest one called kelethan okay because that was like the cook that was the first mmo that i played i remember how the city looked i'm not even gonna you can go back and play it there's like 99 uh 1999 scape or something like that 2007 scape 2007 scape haha why did i say 99 i don't know no idea um oh gee wait no that's runescape no no project 99 is uh everquest okay project i think it's called project 99 okay all right 99 yeah project 1999 classic everquest 2007 scape is runescape that's what i thought you meant i'm talking about everquest okay um so i i played both of those games when i was a wee one um but yeah i'm just like my my theory with that is i can just make that like starting area with you know the the crush bone orcs i don't

know why i remember this i didn't play project 99 i just remember this from when i was like in there right yeah so i i can make the orcs i can make that area i can make the skeletons outside the town i can make little b things that you fight i can make the town i can do all this other kind of stuff and by doing that it gives me a fairly defined scope and that's why i wanted to do that i don't plan to make it a whole game just the starting area i know the enemies i know the areas i don't have to think about a map anymore i don't have to think about the music anymore i don't have to think about the names of things I don't have to think about the music anymore. I don't have to think about the names of things anymore. I just build the things and try to make them work. And then I'm going to fail in 87 different ways.

And then I can't release it anyways. So it's like a project that is intentionally never going to work because I could never release it because it's based on someone else's game. I think another thing that I ran into a lot when i was starting to not even beyond scope right it was like what system do i fail at right so here's a concept for a game that's nice and simple um how fast can i get to where i can't do it anymore i really like rts and i really like obviously resource management games and i'm i want to go home and i want to relax so i'm not going to

be doing anything that's super high energy, and I don't necessarily like the external pressure of like, hey, do this thing or you die because I'm an antagonist. Like my game, you're your own antagonist. It's your fault. Yeah.

You suck. You're your worst enemy. So you're attempting to be better. And so I wanted to move into like RTS style, that town management just for fun because I like them and it's it's entertaining to work on uh and then i was like oh it's friday all right so now i just got to make the little dudes like walk around each other and uh and like get past objects that i build and then i learned what a star pathfinding was and And I thought I'd have that

done in like an afternoon. And then I discovered that people write PhD theses on pathfinding algorithms. Every once in a while, I like watching visualizations of algorithms on YouTube because I find it fun. And pathfinding ones are like super interesting. I did about a week of that before I went, nope. Okay. So this entire genre is off the checklist right so you're basically building like a model of like okay well i can't do this for me i can't do art like i can't do 3d art very well okay right i'm not super great at 2d art besides i don't know marker stippling stuff can't really make a game out of that uh so now i need a concept people have made games out of a lot of i was going to do a game jam with one I made out of clay

which would have been fun stop motion clay right so you're kind of breaking down this this level of difficulty what things am I good at slash enjoy you don't even know what you can't do and it's weird and it comes out of nowhere and there are things that you don't expect

like text layout and like ux design yeah i hate that uh i'm not very good at this yeah i can't get it from where i see it in my brain to where it looks pretty or right and then you're going to look at your project and it's always going to be this like mark on it i don't know i've always enjoyed projectiles like i made a in in high school we had a we had a course that my absolutely fantastic teacher who's a principal at a different school now um but mr trattle he came he made a course for the people in like effectively my grade because he could tell we were all very interested

in this and it's called 3d game programming as far as i can tell he like went to bcit over the summer and like learned some stuff and turned it into a high school course for us which is just so sick um and the game that i made for that was i i just i just uh i pulled a battle state games making tarkov and just downloaded some assets instead of making them myself because uh some people were more interested in like making the 3d models and i was like i suck at this you do well on steam in current year yeah yeah i said flips are a bit of a thing i've noticed that on the same side of the coin nobody cares if you make your own assets either yeah so i was your your main character in my game was a snowman okay and you shot basketballs out of your face at ninjas um let's go i was just like whatever it's like the easiest to find models i could find and my whole point was effectively i shouldn't

have done this i was like trying to make a point like i don't like making 3d models because i was a dummy and just i guess wanted a lower grade i don't know it's stupid kid but um i i like wanted to focus on the mechanics of the game so i i focused on the the like projectile physics of this basketball basically so it could like bounce and then off of the varied terrain and then hit the ninjas in different ways and stuff um i i don't know i think it's i think i still have the code somewhere but like just gives me nightmares about collision detection yeah but i like that i know yeah right and so that's kind of like where you're like that's that's now your game i'm

literally doing that stuff now in video i'm stuck on collision detection because i'm enjoying it it's a been a fun process and like what is your and what happens after what is your collision update rate yes and is it decoupled from the frame rate yes it is good answer um but but that is it is not it's not like uh if i remember correctly godot does um godot has built-in ways doesn't let you do it the wrong way they do let you okay but they throw warnings good you can ignore them it'll compile with those warnings and you can play the game but it will be coupled to the frame rate um but it makes it really easy because when it throws one of those warnings it'll it'll modern like ides are so fascinating

to me because back when i was doing programming heavily there was no like github and all the ids like sucked and everything was terrible and now everything's like so helpful and nice yeah um but it'll tell you yeah exactly where the problem is and link the documentation that will help you solve it so like i ran into this problem honestly yeah clear code ended up explaining it like seconds after i dove through it which was fine but um i i i dove through the problem because i was like this is this is dumb because i was watching the clear code video and I could see the thing moving across his screen and I could see it moving across my screen.

I was like, these are not at the same rate. Something is wrong. I think it's tied to frame rate. This is terrifying. I have to fix this. And then he ends up explaining how to fix it in his video. It's actually super, super easy. There's stuff built into Godot to help you fix timing,

which is great. It's really nice. It's super easy to mess's stuff built into Godot to help you fix timing, which is great. It's really nice. It's super easy to mess up in Unreal Engine because event tick is right there. You can just drag off of it. But I want my game to run at 140, 200 FPS.

I can't be searching through arrays every one millisecond. I don't think so. It's just unperformative, right? It's also just like if you aim to make a game super performant, the main benefit in my mind is that it can be not performant and still playable. You can play it on something that's junk

and it's still a playable game. To me, most games 240 FPS. I'm too old to be FPS competitive. It's not going to make a difference for me. Yeah, but that's one of my... I have two core tenets for this. Support any screen resolution in any aspect ratio and have it run

at high refresh rate. I'm struggling because the game view is one-to-one. Okay. Because it's cube. You're inside a cube. Okay. Yeah. So that's not super hard to render.

It's limited right yeah where do you put the UI when you're on a super ultra wide like I've got a super ultra wide on my desk there and so I'm playing on this how do I make use of like two feet of black bars

yeah so there's like those kinds of problems too right i feel like my solution because this is stuff i don't like working on so i feel like my solution would just be like stretch graphic of some kind why would just i just have them here but then they're tabbed and no i mean like just yeah have the ui be tucked in and then so you don't have black bars just like make it uh take some like graphic that's like the inside of a computer system to some degree and then just stretch until the end,

like whatever. Cool. That's actually a great idea. I don't know if it's a great idea, but that's the type of thing that I would do because I'm just like, I don't want to deal with this problem, go away.

But there's a lot of stuff in the UI that's tied to tick or that's tied to updates that need to happen constantly because, you know, you delete something, the propagation might take a couple seconds, right? And the bricks themselves are constantly checking

to make sure that they're still alive, basically. They have their requirements met, right? And so if I was doing that 200 times a second, it would be insane. So, you know, like one every 10th of a second. It's totally fine. Let's try to power through some merch messages and then bring this thing to an end. I've got one for you, which is about what we're currently talking about.

So we're really not going that far off. But Dan, isn't your game basically an allegory for self-improvement you have to leave your comfort zone in order to advance uh yes um it is and um i've built it on the kind of the mindset is like shelves so you know i've climbed up to this level i'm comfortable here everything's fine i mean the game's the game's called a copacetic right so it's it's it's cool you know you're you're cool you're fine uh but you can't go anywhere like you can't get to the next level you can't get the next research you can't expand at all um and you have to do something scary i mean you can prepare for it that That's the nice thing about it.

There's no time pressure. You can sit there for a year. You turn the game off, you can walk away forever, and you're not going to have a problem. But you're not going anywhere until you start destroying things so that they can be built back better. It's like life.

It's like poetry. You know, they rhyme. Ah, very nice. I've got another one for probably you. Hey, Dan and Luke, whatever. I've been using Tinkercad for all my 3D print modeling. Really want to start using a more in-depth CAD software. What do you use slash recommend?

That's entirely on you. I use SolidWorks, which is not necessarily for everyone um there's loads of them i'm not a huge fan of um okay remember what the other one is now the autodesk product fusion 360 thank you um mostly because what they've been doing to like creators and and people that use it they used to have a discounted maker tier. If you didn't really make money with it, you could learn it. And then they did a Tarkov where they just got rid of that, and now you have to pay a subscription, and everything's cloud-based.

And it's really expensive. Not that SolidWorks is any better. They're extremely expensive. But there's lots of free parametric stuff. I'd say that SolidWorks is attainable to people if you really want to learn it. I don't know. I've heard a lot of people talk about SolidWorks lately.

Yeah, get on SolidWorks. SolidWorks will teach you a lot of transferable skills. But, you know, parametric is the skill. I'm really good at parametric modeling, not like some of the designers we have in CW. But I understand parametric model. I don't understand Blender. Like I've been modeling since high school, right?

But I can make cubes nice. I can't make people people right makes sense there's loads of free ones and there's loads of good ones rhino is probably one to look at but uh solid works hi dll i recently had to log into a laptop that i hadn't used in 15 years not knowing my password i used fingerprint login what are your thoughts uh regarding the use of biometrics with them being hard to change being hard to change lighter like your own biometrics hard to change really hot car oh my goodness uh wow um that's an interesting question that is an interesting question what happens if you lose your finger in a government facility

slightly oddly specific uh we hired our keys when we're on camera do we have to start like doing this sort of thing i think our cameras are maybe not good enough for that they're breaking i gotta get new cameras now yeah yeah where is it it's right here here um oh well we don't have any more of these yeah we are this is literally all three of them isn't it yeah that's right someone pointed out apparently the one that we thought was fine actually does have one your one i don't know what one it was because i didn't see it uh what is it loop cam oh i still don't see it where we have that thing on the screen oh is that covering it there's a thing on the screen that you guys can't

see that we can see is it behind that let me know uh you're over it yeah not over the bar though there you go i still don't see it oh oh there it is so it was behind the thing oh that sucks Oh, there it is. So it was behind the thing. Oh, that sucks. Welp. Cool. Okay.

Whatever. Oh, biometrics. I think biometrics are pretty cool, actually. Are you okay with them not changing? I mean... Mostly? That's okay? Yeah. If it was face ID, would it no longer recognize you?

If it's been 15 years? It absolutely could. Also, if, say, heaven forbid, there was like an acid attack or something that happened, like, yeah. Bad shaving day. For sure. Usually I, and I think this was the case

in this situation as well, though, usually biometric logins are backed up by passwords. So it's not your only way to get in, which is why I generally think they're cool. Should we move to chips? Embedded? I've always like, I knew some biohacker dudes

when I was in high school that were doing that. Like way before it was, it's not normal now, but this was like way back and they sent me a video of them just like hanging out in this like basement suite

that they all rented together like stabbing themselves with... With giant needles. Yeah. I've always kind of wanted the magnets. Oh, the fingerprint magnet? Yeah. Fingertip magnets so you can feel electricity.

You gain other sense. Yeah. That's pretty interesting. Anyways, that's a topic I have no right to talk about um with that attitude get some experience there luke steven d steven d says i'm almost four months behind it would be awesome if you could read this message on stream to remind me that i sent a merch message when i finally catch up there you go done um hey lnd i hope you doing well. I recently started my data center career with Amazon,

and things have been interesting. What is the jankiest thing you've seen a big company do, not counting LZD? I have an answer. Do you? I was able to pre-think about this, so I could go first if you want. I'm not sure.

I've seen a server room type situation where the power was controlled with a light switch and the light switch was not in like a security box or anything there was just like a piece of paper that was like don't flip regular ups testing yeah that's all it was. It's a very astute business decision. Yeah. I've also seen the like, hey, the server is this laptop.

Don't unplug it. I think that, okay, jankiest thing. I worked at a job and they needed a microwave link. But they couldn't really get a very expensive powerful one right they're kind of difficult to get you need special regulations not if you set the country to a different country and then just set it to like nuclear power levels of bird melting it can go whatever distance you want that's i think i don't know if that's janky or just extremely reckless but i think it was illegal to uh to a building

like oh we just had this pole we bought this giant microwave transmitter off of ebay for like 300 bucks we're just gonna zap strap and then set it to melt birds sheesh but it gets 200 feet now and then set it to melt birds she gets 200 feet now but it's solved it's all um don't walk under it what happens what what is this did you create this one uh what happens oh streak my brain i also read strip i read steak oh no steak yeah steak uh okay so hey dan and luke and linus what happens when the streak breaks will you start a new one or open when to other hosts do you plan to uh replace who has been in established positions for some time uh i think this is one of those situations where i'm going to give the really annoying answer of the streak's not going to break i don't think so yeah that's kind of the idea i think at this point we've all described the like relatively atomic scenarios that we would go through in order to keep the streak going so

uh i don't necessarily really see it happening i don't know i don't think so I would like to I've done the production remote I would like to try it from Far away Vancouver Island in October I think that would be fun How remote have you done the stream?

My house Yeah okay I think it's fine There will just be little delays. Not even? Because I'm coming in like, I don't know, like basically Linus's level, right? It's 300 milliseconds or less.

That's what I'm saying, like very little. Yeah. Shouldn't even really matter much. But yeah, I don't know. There is no plan in place because I don't think, I think we're all rather stubborn people. Yeah. The,

the, the streak is to do it every week forever. Yeah. Uh, hi DL Luke. Have you watched AMC AMC's show halt and catch fire? I strongly recommend it. No,

never heard of it. Uh, it's a good show. Is AMC watchable up here without linux isos i uh i don't know i don't know about any of these sean sean i don't i don't watch tv sure it says awesome show halton catch fire what is this it's like a birth of computers oh but as a drama and it's fun it's very fun cool uh not that i have seen it or consume any media because no of course not just a server full of linux isos anyways uh i think that's it. I think we're done. I think we just finished the show.

Okay. So you want to say the line? You don't have to. If I can even remember. I'm mostly focused on just getting ready to push this button and ignore you guys. I'll do both the lines. Thanks for tuning in to The WAN Show. Tune in next week.

Same bad time, same bad channel. Except it will actually be a different time. Oh, yeah. No, it'll be later than this. This is when we're supposed to start. Yeah, we were supposed to start 10 minutes ago. Never going to happen. Anyways, bye! Push the button.

Now I have to run back over to the other computer!