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Okay, welcome to the WAN show, ladies and gentlemen.
We have an absolutely spectacular show for you today,
assuming that it is actually live and working properly,
which I have no idea.
And we've got some great topics,
like first and foremost, it is official.
I have checked the creator dashboard.
I am in the top 1% of OnlyFans creators on the platform
after just one day.
That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
After just one day, I am an OnlyFans 1%-er.
In other big important news,
Lewis Rossman is taking right to repair to direct ballot via GoFundMe.
This will be...
Gentlemen, after just one day, I am what is happening right now stop that this is
going to be a spectacularly interesting campaign especially in light of some recent conversations
that i had with lewis i was a little surprised to see this but i am extremely excited luke what
else we got today xbox game Pass is getting PlayStation exclusives.
Whoa.
Whoa, right?
Whoa.
I mean, that's pretty whoa.
Pretty wild.
My love is like, whoa.
And that is like, whoa, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, breaking news.
AMD Zen 3 CPU is vulnerable to Spectre-like attacks via PSF feature.
Big sad.
Predictive store forwarding whoops let's go ahead and roll that intro shall we I don't know who the sponsors are.
So I'm just going to do this.
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and Vessi Footwear. And I'm going to have those assets sitting right here ready to go for when
I got to tell you about our sponsors. First, I want to talk to you guys a little bit about
OnlyFans. Now, it is normally our policy to not acknowledge the April Fool's-ness of our April Fool's jokes.
But unlike some of our previous April Fool's jokes, this one seems to have caused a significant
amount of legitimate confusion in the community and even among our staff. So I feel like it would
be not a terrible idea for us to go ahead and sort of talk through
exactly how this came to be. The original intention was actually to upload a tour of our office
because I know it's been under construction for over the last year. And we've we've post about
posted about it in YouTube stories. We've posted a lot about it in behind the scenes, float plane
exclusives and stuff like that.
And we've had a ton of requests to do an office tour.
And the idea was we were thinking of doing like a totally fake one,
like renting another office for a day and like doing a tour of it with everyone like in there.
And it's a completely different office.
And everyone's like, what is going on? Where are the sets like we we thought that would be kind of a fun thing to do but we
couldn't get it together in time and one of our backup ideas was you know lol we should do this
like we should pretend we have an only fans and haha wouldn't it be funny if we talked about like
you know foot fetish but it was computer feet like kind of like a fun tech spin on, you know, a lot of really popular genres on OnlyFans and among adult performers and the audiences that enjoy that type of content.
we're going to do like tech OnlyFans. And obviously as part of it, you know, we wanted the video to have a certain kind of OnlyFans announcement vibe. So we went and we looked at
a couple prominent creators, OnlyFans announcement videos, and got kind of a sense for what the
community might expect from that sort of video. And we realized like, there's no way that we could do
this video and have all of the, all of the naughtiness, you know, be completely focused on
tech. I mean, like Luke, if I did an OnlyFans announcement video and I was fully clothed,
would that feel appropriate? Uh, no, not quite. I think, I think, uh, I don't think I've laughed
that hard at a video in a while.
Um, that was amazing. I just wanted to throw my hat in there real quick that that was, it was
stunning and hilarious. Uh, but yeah, I think, I think the couch thing sold it. Like that was
Andy's idea. It would have, it would have still been funny without the couch thing, but the couch
thing like really drove it home.
I think.
Yo,
it drove it,
you know,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
It really,
uh,
it really stiffened the competition.
So,
so anyway,
so that's where the idea came from.
But the thing is that you guys might not realize this,
but Linus media group,
float plane and creator warehouse now have a total of over 50 employees and so that includes me and
Yvonne so we're like just over 50 and what that means is that a project can go from
conception to completion with you know three quarters of those people or even more not having heard about it at all, having no idea
what's coming. And so it's, um, so what happened was the video launched and I, you know, immediately
got questions from people like, Hey, um, is this real? Because part of our spin on April Fool's
this year was, you know, in the, in the past, what we've done is we've tried to make it as straight-faced as possible.
So this is the first time you will see me publicly acknowledge that the concrete-cooled PC was not, in fact, real.
We have people who, Luke, I kid you not.
The comments section of that video is full of two kinds of people
truth okay people that are like okay people that think it is way too stupid for to be believable
at all and therefore a bad april fool's joke and people who think it is real
yeah like you can tell you can you can tell the people who are like this is
this is so obviously fake that it's not even funny and the people that are like
this is this is real but you know i hate this video for some other reason.
Or like they have some critique of the video
that is anything other than,
this is completely not real at all and it's ridiculous.
So I think we posted this as a float plane exclusive,
how we made it look like it was concrete in the loop
while the computer was working.
Because in the video we show like,
look guys, there's no fake wires.
This is actually running.
And what we did was it was a combination of flakes of, oh man, something like chalk or
some kind of marker or something.
I can't remember exactly what it was.
Milk.
So the coolant was actually milk.
And then we put paint in it we put paint in the milk and what we did was we put the milk in the fridge before we did the shot so
that the performance the legitimate performance out of hardware info or whatever idea or whatever
application we used was legitimately excellent so the whole thing was real. And that's the other funny thing
is there's a lot of people who think they figured it out and actually had no idea how we did it,
like just no clue whatsoever. But we're like super into patting themselves on the back about like
how sure they were about, you know, how we faked it or whatever. So that's how we faked it.
And then one
of the really clever things that we did was we shot the thing completely out of order so that's
why you can that's why we were able to go back to it later and the loop is literally full of solid
concrete you know obviously because we shot the part with the milk before we shot. So we then cleaned the tubes. We
cleaned all the milk out, cleaned the tubes. So they were perfect. Then we shot filling them with
concrete, but then in the edit that went before, and then we left it for a day and came back and
it was obviously solid because it's full of concrete. Duh. Um, man, the number, the amount
of debate in the comment section over like whether a D5 pump is actually able to move the coolant that fast.
What are you talking about?
That's not, you know, you can't have the right answer to the wrong question.
You know what I mean?
what i mean um so anyway the point is what we wanted to do to make it kind of in our in our traditional style completely straight faced right like not acknowledging it at all was we wanted to
take it one step more meta and make an april fool's joke that effectively wasn't a joke at all because there is a real OnlyFans account
with real actual content on it if you check the link in the video description.
I didn't see a link in the description.
Okay, it didn't go up for the first hour or so because the person who posted the video
forgot even though that was like kind of the whole joke. It's in there now.
Oh, i even tweeted
about it because i didn't and then when people started uh tweeting me the link i thought it was
like some bogus fan made thing i never actually realized until you posted the tweet about the
profits which i'm assuming we'll get into that it was actually real like i thought that would
yeah i thought someone just set that up um as a joke no not at
all so the only fans account is real we actually didn't get it verified until march 31st their
verification process is arduous like i had better than twitter's i had to send so much information
and stuff like it was kind of crazy i don't even know who these people are but they got
they know everything about me these only fans people um anyway the point is that was sort of like the the next level april fools is
that it's a joke oh wait holy crap it's not even a joke but that's the joke you know what i mean
yeah um so meta so anyway yeah so the i the idea was that it was real but also that it
was not real so in my mind it was always a joke that it's real but it was never going to be real
and then midway through the day someone walks into my office um it was either james or uh
it was either james or a prime because he was the one who edited it and uploaded all the content on OnlyFans.
So they both have access to the account.
And they were like, hey, so you know we've made like $6,000 already, right?
And I was like, shut the front door.
Are you kidding me right now?
Because that was not the intent at all.
I didn't expect anyone to actually subscribe to it.
If you subscribe to it, spoiler alert, guys, you're not supposed to.
Spoiler alert, you get an automatic image that gets sent to you that just says, why?
We were ready for it, you know? We were ready for it you know we were ready for it um we knew a couple people would but we
thought you know two or three people would do that they would post it on twitter and then post
the why online and then yeah post it on the forum or whatever and then people be like oh why yeah
indeed good question why, you know, everything
in that video with, I'd say a couple of exceptions. I mean, Anthony ASMR build guide. Okay. All right.
I can see, I can see how there'd be an audience for that. But most of the stuff in the video is,
I think is pretty clearly a parody of, you know, otherwise popular actual content from that platform.
So anyway, all of a sudden I'm sitting here going, well, I was very clear about what this
was and what the objective is, but now I'm not really sure because all of a sudden people
are starting to request things.
They're like, hey, can I have a picture of Linus's feet?
I'll pay $25 or $50 or whatever.
And, you know, James is kind of sitting there managing it throughout the day. And he's like,
I don't care. So he like goes up to me. I'm on set, like takes a picture of my feet,
sends it to this person. And that's how this that's how this platform works. It is a it's
like it's a I had no familiarity with it. I've never used it before. So it sort of blows my mind,
but it's like a just throwing money back and forth platform.
So you send...
How is it back and forth?
Well, I mean, if you subscribe to people as well as being a creator,
then you could throw it back and forth.
But yeah, it's basically just like a DM platform. It's actually very
unsophisticated in certain ways. But essentially, once someone subscribes to you, which already has
a monthly fee, then they can message you. And pretty much, like I can tell you guys, even though
we only have a couple thousand people on it, the volume of messages that come through,
if you don't put a tip on your message,
I pretty much guarantee you that nobody will see it.
Like it's not happening unless you're engaging.
So the $25 feet pic thing, is that like a bounty?
So if you reply with a picture attached,
the value goes through or did he tip $25 and he's asking for it. No, you're just okay. Okay, I'll get to that. So, so subscribing, which has
a monthly fee is just for the privilege of being able to send a message. And honestly, I can see
why people are way more engaged in a lot of cases with much smaller creators on the platform. It's actually been really educational for me looking at how it works
by becoming involved in it in this way, even if it was completely accidentally.
Because a smaller creator, you're not going to have to tip $100
just to have like a one in a thousand chance that they might look at it.
Like there actually is a degree of personal interaction that can go on there.
Not with the only fans, one percenters like you.
Yeah, no, no.
We're too.
My inbox, man, is just too high.
It's overflowing.
It's overflowing.
So, OK, so the way it works is you can send a message.
And if you tip in your message, then you basically have some hope of it being looked at.
And then the way that it works is you can request things.
So you can say, hey, I want a picture of your nose.
Ideally, I'll be able to see like up your nostril
or something like that.
And that sounds very hypothetical.
That message 100% arrived yesterday.
James came into my office, took that picture
and I was like, excuse me, and then left.
And that was apparently sent to the person.
So I have no idea what they're doing with that image, but I'm sure that it's unsavory.
So at that point, you can say, okay, I want this. And then you message them back. And I think James
was mostly memeing. Like people would ask for the most basic small things and he'd be like,
yeah, that will be $69 and 42 cents You know, like just, because we thought,
we thought everyone was joking, you know?
We thought we were joking
and we thought everyone was joking,
but then all of a sudden,
it was our biggest source of revenue yesterday.
By the end of the day, we had reached,
so I don't remember exactly what it was last night,
but today we're sitting at like $15,367.
Obviously, it's cooled off a fair bit
now that the video's been up for a while
and we don't have someone dedicated
to sitting there replying to people.
Do you have a breakdown
and are you willing to share the breakdown?
Yeah.
So like subscriptions versus messages versus...
I guess the fulfilled request thing is just...
Maybe.
Let me see if I can figure that out.
I haven't spent a ton of time in the dashboard,
and they don't even have an app,
which I think you and I probably both have a pretty good idea of why.
Because if they were giving away 30% of their revenue,
how could they give a reasonable amount to creators?
So the split is 80-20 between the creator and OnlyFans, the platform. So it's all done through just the mobile
browser. But the experience is frankly, not great. Anyway, the point is, you actually can negotiate.
So you go back and forth on like what the rate is going to be and what you're going to send.
And they send the money basically upfront, hoping that you will come through. And I guess you can
probably, I don't know, maybe you can like rate creators. I guess having a good reputation is probably good
in like some way on whatever communities sort of keep track of this stuff. And, um, you got your
picture or your little video or your shout out. Some people just asked for shout outs. Someone
asked me to call them a naughty gamer. And I was like, okay, sure. Um, and then it can also go the
other way. So as a creator, you can create some photo set,
like here's me with CPUs taped to my nipples,
but it's blurred.
The Xbox Gold Controller censored photo set.
Yeah, but it's $25 to unlock, and here it is.
And you just kind of blast that out to all of your followers,
and some of them will unlock it.
And apparently that's a way to just make
monstrous like utterly monstrous amounts of money that would be paid followers too right that's
paying subscribers right so you're advertising to paying subscribers that's right interesting you
have to you have to pay in order to be advertised to which is, it's, it's just utterly, utterly mind blowing to me. Like,
I'm coming from the YouTube space where it's like you're fighting with your audience tooth and nail
over whether you should be allowed to monetize. And honestly, our community is pretty good. I'm
talking about the YouTube audience as a whole. You guys have largely been incredibly supportive
of everything that we've needed to do in order to grow our company, grow our team, pay our employees a fair wage so that they can, you know, have cool tech for their own lives, you know, not just have to stare at it at work.
And a good point paid to be advertised to similar to TV.
Yeah, I know. Right.
It's the new cable. Advertised to? Similar to TV. Yeah, I know, right? Any subscription and there's ads.
It's the new cable.
But probably more successful by the time another few years has ticked by.
So I'm looking at my statements and I don't actually see a way to break that down. I just see like my primary balance, payout requests, earning statistics. Okay, here we go.
So subscriptions is 14,677. Tips is 758. And then we've got $20 from messages. And the gross
revenue is $19,319. And the net is 15,455. So that puts us apparently, according to the dashboard,
in the top 0.93% of creators on OnlyFans, which is really cool. And it was really fun and
educational for me to sort of go in and make this video and sort of learn about this platform and
this whole community that I just honestly had
no idea existed. But the truth of the matter is, guys, this is not going to be a significant play
for us going forward. I think that we'll leave it up for a little bit longer. I think maybe we'll
shut it down on Monday or something like that. so if you're hoping to get yourself some of the uh gamer cooling loop water which by the way is unironically a thing that you
actually can get if you are i think we have like 16 left of them or something stupid like that
so it's a it's a little collectible thing you know you said you can release sets
yes picture sets yeah can you release videos on there i believe you
can do video yeah because i recorded videos and sent them to people actually madison did it for me
so she recorded the video for me and then sent it because uh because i'm a big deal you know see
you guys should do just a little experiment and do one actual anthony asmr build so okay the thing is One actual Anthony ASMR build. So, okay.
The thing is, Anthony is a very, very busy gentleman.
And he has, like today, he was shooting a normal build that didn't actually get done for this week
and we're kind of behind and stuff.
So it's like tough, you know?
It's a cool idea i just i don't know i don't know what to do with it like it's the kind of thing where the way that our non-compete works is we don't allow people to do
certain things on their own personal channels and handles because the idea is that you're not
supposed to be just using linus media group as a means to promote your own personal, like tech channel or whatever.
But I think if Anthony were to come to me and say, Hey, Linus, you know, I'm really passionate
about this idea, I'd actually love to do, you know, an ASMR, you know, guide of some sort. I
think that's the kind of thing that we have in the past. I mean, Taryn has done a, Taryn has done,
that we have in the past. I mean, Taryn has done a, uh, Taryn has done, for example, a keyboard review on his personal channel before. And I basically went like, look, Taryn, yeah,
there's no way that the LTT channel is ever going to do a review of that keyboard.
So, you know, go ahead, do your thing. I just, I just ask that people kind of work with me on it.
Um, and don't expect that the answer is going to be yes when it's content that directly conflicts
with the type of content that we all create at work using work equipment and work time and all
those things like there's it's always it's always complicated like in my perfect world we'd all just
be like you know you know bros and sissies and it would all be like sweet and uh everything would
be chill and we'd have no rules but i think as we've seen
over the years luke we went from you know our basically only rule being you actually do need
to wear pants to work to you know now we've got all these these complicated procedures for like
how you request vacation time and blah blah blah blah blah it's got like 50 plus people you can't
have i was gonna say it
just happens because you have to streamline things once you get to a certain amount of people like
you can't can't keep playing fast and loose because then things just get messy and hard to
control um so anthony actually is apparently watching land show right now he messaged me
and said if we're killing the only fans can we at least leave it up for the whole month?
There have been examples of people coming in,
doing a meme thing,
then pulling out and OnlyFans clamping down
on what their own creators are able to do.
This would cause a lot of trouble for vulnerable people.
So I'll have to talk to Anthony about that on,
I guess it's, we have Monday off.
So I'll have to talk to him about that on Tuesday,
but I have a very, very difficult time imagining how our sort of meme channel could have that kind of an impact.
I think I might get it.
Sure.
Okay, hit me.
I suspect because the monthly subscription, the agreement is not being fulfilled.
They're subscribing for a month.
And if you only give it to
them for a few days that's like potentially problematic i'm assuming that's it i don't know
so what does that have to do with what only fans allows other creators to do
well if that's something that only fans is trying to yep yep nope i have no idea i was gonna say if
that's something that only fans is clamping down on but then like then other creators just shouldn't
do it either so i don't know i'm not really sure maybe there's like some payout restrictions or
something that they're that they're putting in place and that's hurting people and they're
trying to have people not do things like that i'm not sure anyways i don't know enough about it okay uh okay all right well we'll have
to kind of figure out uh we'll have to kind of figure out what that'll look like um guys with
that said bear in mind this is very very unlikely to be a long-term thing because
we have our own exclusive platform.
It's called Floatplane.
If we wanted to do exclusive videos or photo sets or whatever it ended up being, it would
be on Floatplane, not on OnlyFans.
On Floatplane?
We have a picture uploading option.
What we don't have on Floatplane is the ability to tipke so true we also don't have dms on floatplane true i know i've also had the
floatplane team extremely busy with verified actual gaming program so you know what okay uh i get it
why we don't have this stuff so all right we'll have to talk to people internally but please don't
subscribe on only fansans, guys,
because the long-term plan is not for us to become, like,
you know, a not-safe-for-work creator or whatever the case may be.
We've had some people even reach out and say that they felt like
it was insensitive for us to create a video like that,
and that's something that I'm not 100% sure how to respond to.
I mean, for me, the butt of the joke, the April Fool, was really supposed to be me.
Like, in my mind, you probably shouldn't be subscribing to an OnlyFans of me.
And, you know, guys, don't feel the need to kind of, you know, boost up my ego or whatever.
Be like, no, Linus, you're beautiful.
It really isn't the point.
If I was going to follow someone on OnlyFans, it sure as heck wouldn't be me.
So this is just a market that I clearly don't understand whatsoever.
So my intent was that the butt of the joke is me.
And then the other butt of the joke, I guess,
is anyone who legitimately is that into computer hardware
that they need to see it dripping in massage oil
or whatever the case may be.
That's the joke.
Those folks aren't generally supposed to be belittling
the thing that they're creating.
It's supposed to be something very uncharacteristic of the group.
That's generally it.
I got a message saying that it's apparently due to excessive chargebacks
that happen when people leave early.
And then excessive chargebacks being a thing on the platform at all
have often led to increased limitations of how creators can accept money,
how much they can accept at a time, stuff like that,
even if they're not leaving the platform early.
Okay.
And then the other thing
that we've received critique for is...
So, okay.
So we've received critique
for stigmatizing sex work
because we made an April Fool's video about it.
But then we've received
about an equal amount of criticism
saying that we are normalizing sex work by making this video and drawing attention to this platform in this community.
So as far as I can tell, I have equally off both sides of this.
So maybe we can call it a net neutral.
Did they cancel each other out?
That's the hope. That's the best that I can
hope for at this point. But, you know, it's one of those things where we decided to take a risk.
We did something that we thought was, you know, kind of edgy and funny. And when you do something
kind of edgy, you know what, you're probably going to make a couple of mistakes.
But I honestly, I watched the video myself. I hadn't seen any of the content that they made.
So all I was there for was shooting the A-roll, you know, with the big pink toy and all that
kind of stuff.
The front when, oh, yeah.
That was pretty good.
I was up really early when I watched that and i think i i think
i woke some people up oh that's great um so yeah you know that's the only part i was there for so
when i saw some of the other some of the other stuff like james wearing that freaking gun vest
or whatever it was he was doing i don't even know what that was yeah i couldn't really tell
so i mean okay bird j
says not gonna lie i subscribed because i wanted to see more of james shirtless but the thing is
guys you got to understand only fans is from my limited experience with it is intended to be a
platform for individuals if you wanted james on only fans you're gonna need to tell him that
and he's going to have to create an OnlyFans
and you're going to have to go subscribe to that.
That's not intended for a group.
Like when you send a tip to the Linus Tech Tips one,
you're effectively sending it, you're splitting it 50 ways.
Like we just, we put all that money in a big bucket
and then we divvy it up according to the like,
you know, boring corporate like budgeting
meetings and stuff that we do because Linus Media Group Incorporated is an incorporated company
we're a corporation um so we're we're definitely going to find stuff to do with that money but
you know guys the point of it is not that you are able to subscribe to like an individual person. We've actually opened up the option for Linus Media Group employees
to start their own Flowplanes, for example, though.
So that's the kind of thing that I could see being a constructive way to contribute
and a constructive way for individuals like, you know, an Anthony or Riley or James or,
you know, whoever else to engage with the community through
floatplane um i don't know what is our policy on not safe for work content luke uh it if it's if
there's if there's like private parts it has to be artistic right that's right that's right that's
right an asmr build guide would be more than okay.
That wouldn't even really be a problem.
Got it. Okay.
The main way that people get around that,
which I am of the strong opinion,
is why there was a massive increase in this type of content
since Patreon became a thing, is cosplay.
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because cosplay is very easy to point out and be like
nope art yeah i made this costume and i didn't make much of it but that's okay it's hard to
argue against um so i think that's where a lot of cosplay people came from and body paint people and
other things like that is that it fits under that that art umbrella and the reason why the art thing
is there just in case anyone's interested is a lot of mainstream mainline payment processors
have that as a requirement so if you want to work with that it's not really the platform that's
necessarily deciding this thing it's the uh it's the payment processors. So, yeah. Yeah, pretty much.
Cyrix says,
seems like working for you seems very restricted social media wise.
Well, believe it or not,
you know, in the same way that
working for, you know,
a bread manufacturer
would be pretty restrictive
in terms of like,
if you were to manufacture
and sell bread on the side,
I'm sorry,
but that is just the way that employment
contracts work. Like you can't be you can't be bringing people in. And like if you hire a
kitchen team and basically you find out that all of them are moonlighting as their own restaurant using the recipes that you've developed with them
it's like bad manners at the very best so i yeah i'm sorry that's just like kind of the way that
it works when you go into a workplace that has a lot of proprietary knowledge that gives you a
significant advantage in a particular industry like Like it's one of the reasons...
It's not just proprietary knowledge either.
It gives you an audience.
It gives you both in the case of Linus Media Group.
So it's one of those things where I believe we actually have a fairly open approach to it.
We put people's social media handles in our video credits, for example.
We don't try to hide even our behind the scenes people who,
you know, could be at risk of being poached by other social media outfits.
I mean, Linus Media Group people know what they're doing.
They are very, very good at the game that we all play.
And so I like to think that we actually allow a lot of exposure for our people.
We just have to also make sure that it's within reason.
Um, we just have to also make sure that it's within reason.
So I think allowing people to have their own personal support things where they can create other content through floatplane is a pretty good compromise.
A lot of places wouldn't allow anything like that at all.
So, you know, sorry, but it's like, what am, what am I supposed to, what, you know, what am I supposed to say?
I remember having a conversation with someone recently where I was like, hey, look, I'm
sorry that I'm having to talk to you about this, but you got to understand X, Y, and
Z.
And they're like, no, no, no, totally.
I get it.
You made me.
And I'm like, well, no, because you are awesome.
And that's why people like you.
And that's why they want to engage with you.
But, you know, also, you know, we have we've we've thrown some fuel on that fire, I like
to think.
And so between the exposure and the proprietary knowledge, I do think that we give people
a very significant leg up in terms of building their own social audience.
And we just have to watch out for our own interests, not just for me personally, but for everyone. Like it would be a huge problem
for the people who really do want to make Linus Tech Tips and Linus Media Group successful,
if people were just coming in, using us as a stepping stone, and then booting out as soon as
we have invested a ton of resources into training them up. I mean, you look at, for example,
the exodus from Tesla to Rivian and how Tesla is now successfully suing Rivian for hiring,
what was it, something like 170, 180 of their former employees?
I thought it might have even been more than that. One sec.
And it's one of those things that you can't prove necessarily that those employees
stole trade secrets in a lot of cases but there is no doubt whatsoever that a very conscious effort
was made to poach a significant number of employees from a particular company for some reason and oh
could that reason be that they're trying to build a competing product and it would be a lot easier to just hire people that already did it for their primary
competitor? Oh, probably. So it's just, it's a very complicated thing. And it's something that
we are trying over time to be more and more lax about. I mean, hey, Luke, do you remember the
conversations we had back when you first wanted to start Twitch streaming? Yeah.
conversations we had back when you first wanted to start Twitch streaming?
Yeah.
That's all you got to say, eh?
And like, not even that I do anymore, but I've also gained a little bit more perspective now.
And the fact that I've been allowed to Twitch stream as much as I want,
I think kind of surprising. Um, yeah,
I don't know. And the fact,
the fact that blindness media group employees have YouTube and Twitch channels
that they like work on actively on the side with what you were saying earlier,
where like, if you were considering a bakery,
if you were allowed to have like a a pop-up
shop uh like uh what are they called meal carts yeah food truck food truck if you're allowed to
like food truck on the weekend and you worked at a bakery and your food truck sold baked goods that
would probably be pretty weird uh so like i yeah i don't know it's basically but it's it shouldn't
be taken quite so lightly.
And you got to understand guys too, that there's other factors at play.
Like for example, up until very recently, every single person working on Linus Tech Tips videos,
so camera operators, editors, and writers had access to the main Linus Tech Tips handle.
So that opens itself up if we allow people to have their own channels
to all kinds of abuse.
And we've had to have some very difficult conversations
with people where we're like,
hey, did this really make sense on main?
Or is this pretty much down to personal promotion?
We've got to have a very, very, you know,
fine line that we walk here
where we're all working towards the same goal when it comes to
what we're doing on work time, but without being too restrictive about what people can do on their
own time. So Luke's Luke battling it out with me on Twitch streaming, where ultimately, I made the
call, I was like, Look, we're never going to get into, you know, Twitch streaming at scale. So
forget it. You just you go do your own thing. I want no part of it.
You know, I want to make no investment
into your Twitch channel,
but I also expect nothing back from it.
Do your thing.
But like, do the terms.
Do you remember the original terms?
I don't remember the original terms.
Was there, because I,
I remember being a little annoyed at one point
because you were so often promoting your Twitch stream
directly after WAN show, like on WAN show wan show and i'm like luke the optics and then i think we talked about it and
then i think i said yeah you know what i'm okay with it but i think you were like yeah so i didn't
i thought that was the goal because originally we did um after parties i i remember this confusion
originally we did after parties when we stopped doing after parties and I remember this confusion. Originally, we did after parties. We stopped
doing after parties. And shortly after we stopped doing after parties, you told people to go watch
my stream as the after party. So I started calling my streams the after parties and kept promoting
them. And then you were like, what the heck, bro? And I was like, yeah, that makes sense. But I
didn't line that up. The original terms, though, was that I couldn't monetize my stream until I had been streaming for a year.
And I remember just being like, I don't understand.
I don't remember why I said that. Maybe it was to find out if this is right. No, I do remember why. I remember why.
It was because your argument to me was that this wasn't about the money. It was just something you were really passionate about and wanted to use to engage with the community and i was like
okay prove it stream for a year for nothing and if you actually do that then i will believe you
and go for it and i don't think you waited the whole year anyway i think i did oh okay i'm not
sure i don't know either Either way, either way.
One of the other problems, guys,
is that we can't be seen to show favoritism.
So if everyone has their own little like side gigs,
whether they're Twitch streaming,
which we now formally allow,
anyone at Linus Media Group
can have a Twitch channel and Twitch stream
because I've made that decision years ago
that we are not a Twitch streaming operation.
We are laser focused on YouTube and
other social media. Anyone can have a float plane, which conveniently is a platform that
our sister company built. So I see it as not really a conflict of interest. We have spoken
with some people about even if they have a large social media following, doing brand deals and
using us as their agency. So we would take an agency fee
because again, it's down to, yeah, you're awesome. But we also do like to think that even way more
than a normal agency, we have probably increased your reach and probably have something to do with
why someone is reaching out to you in the first place. But, oh shoot, where was I going with that?
So we blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We do all
these things, right? But we can't be seen to, so because everyone's doing this, these things,
we've got to be really careful that we're not showing favoritism because this affects people's
livelihoods. Like if Luke has, you know, 200 followers on Twitch who subscribe to him and
pay him $5 a freaking month, that's $500 a month. Okay. $500
a month is six grand a year, which is the difference between in many cases, having a car
and not having a car. You know what I mean? Like this is, this is very lifestyle changing money
for people. And so let's say I'm more of a behind the scenes person, right? Like I mostly work behind the camera or I'm an editor or I work in the warehouse or whatever
else.
I'm looking at it going, well, this is totally unfair because not only is Luke in this position
where he has like, you know, a job that maybe I'd like better or whatever else, because
you never know what people's mindset is.
Not only does he have this job that I like better, but on top of him having this better job that my perception is he gets paid more,
he also gets this like side gig that for whatever reason, the company is calling out all the time
that puts extra money directly in his pocket. I'm so unhappy right now. So you create,
you create this drama and this tension. And that's one of the reasons that a lot of companies just don't allow it.
This is a really good comment that was posted in the YouTube chat about how WWE basically
said, look, no OnlyFans, no Patreons, no Twitch, because technically the wrestlers for WWE
entertainment or whatever the company is called are employees.
wrestlers for WWE Entertainment or whatever the company is called are employees, and therefore they are actually bound to this contract that is an extremely onerous non-compete. And personally,
I disagree with WWE's move. I absolutely... Yeah, that doesn't seem smart to me.
I really looked at the way that a lot of those athletes, and you can call them athletes,
you can call them entertainers. They are absolutely both.
I looked at the way they were engaging.
It seemed so organic and so constructive.
Sorry to cut you off here.
If they just made like a Twitch team,
you know, I don't remember what it's called.
I think they're called teams.
But where you have like a team page on a Twitch and it shows all your things
and they integrated WWE branding into it and stuff
and then just let them Twitch stream and like maybe they make all the revenue or whatever but
there's wwe branding and they should do bonuses based on it i think if they are doing it on their
own time like maybe they they have to call out upcoming events and do like some minor advertising
that way that would be huge for them massive and i want to jump back to something you're previously
talking about with like the the one employee who feels disenfranchised compared to another employee due to various exposures or whatever.
I think that's a bit of a hard thing to keep in perspective when you are the employee that has the advantage and maybe not something that you'd think of.
Yeah.
So I can understand why someone will just get excited and want to do something and then feel upset when they're not allowed.
Because I've been there and I've been the douchey one.
I think that's an okay word to say.
Where I'm like, I just want to do it.
I don't understand.
But then you have to consider that other angle.
And one way to maybe compare it and maybe make it make a little bit more sense is, as far as I know, most restaurants work this way.
Where the waiters are tipped, but they tip jar it and it's shared with back of house.
Yes. So that is a really solid way to handle it.
But that also feels really unfair to other people.
And it gets messy.
By the way, point of clarification, sorry.
The reason WWE has so much control over their performers is because they're independent contractors.
So they can basically just dismiss them for no reason whatsoever.
Sorry, I got that detail wrong.
I was thinking about it like I was trying to remember why it is that they're basically able to exercise this like iron fist over their employees.
fist over their employees. And I thought it was down to their employee contract, but actually,
it's down to their contract as an independent contractor. So someone comes in and says,
non-compete clauses are not enforceable. So it really depends. They are typically considered to be not enforceable once someone's employment has been
terminated, but there are absolutely agreements that you can make that limit what people are and
are not allowed to do while they are employed by your company. And you got to remember too that
Justin, that kind of attitude is exactly the kind of attitude that makes a person just unemployable period because
at the end of the day unless you're working for some monster mega corporation um an employee
agreement and employee employer agreement is a relationship like luke and i have had battles
over the years. Yeah. Over.
But what we've both learned from them.
We've both developed.
Some of us have learned a lot.
I've learned a lot.
I'm the one who's learned a lot.
I've learned a lot too. We've both learned a lot. We've developed a lot i'm the one who's learned a lot okay i've learned a lot too um we've both learned a lot we've developed a lot i think that we're both better people
for treating our relationship so complicated what a complicated relationship at times
luke and i have been friends colleagues who really do work like side by side on on a more
peer-like level employee boss landlord boss, landlord, and tenant.
And this is all consecutively.
So Luke and I'll have a great day working at the office, right?
And we kick butt and made some great videos.
And then I'll go home and I'll be like,
oh no, we have to talk about Luke's lease right now.
And so now we're in like landlord
tenant mode and luke's like talking about how the place feels like a dungeon and it shouldn't have
to be so expensive and because he's on site where the office is he's basically like 24 7 security
and i'm sitting here going luke you're already paying a fraction of what the market rate is
it's not like i don't have to pay the mortgage on this house.
What do you want from me?
If you don't feel like you make enough money, then just come out and say it.
And if you do feel like you make enough money, then just pay your rent properly.
To be fair, at one point in time, that was described as like almost a part of my compensation package.
By that time, you had negotiated it down to so little money that it had to be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
By the way, was that the bird's wing down in front of your camera?
Yeah, I don't know what he's doing.
So, hey, I told you before the show, I turned off a bunch of the lights and you can hear him now.
I turned off a bunch of the lights and that's usually what I do when I take him to bed.
And it's very close to his bedtime now.
So all the lights are off, except for these two studio ones.
And he's like super confused.
And budgies have very, very, very bad low light vision.
Right.
Nice!
Stop the landing? So, so yeah very successful landing
so he's like
super confused and trying
to stay like in front of the lights
but it's also pretty new so we don't fully
have that trust level yet so he's like
closer to me than he's ever used
to hanging out and then he landed on top
of the camera and was like
standing at the front of
the lens shroud, just staring. It's been, it's been an interesting, interesting night of bird
time. So Danny Dog says, I disagree. I'm employable, but I don't believe they're enforceable.
Why not just do what you want? Remember, corporations are not your friends. I already
said that if it's a mega corporation where there's no personal relationship, you go ahead and do
whatever you want. But if what you're trying to
do is have an enjoyable, you know, work experience, I can tell you, I can tell you right now that
there's kind of two ways to approach me. There's the by the book way, and you can be 100% guaranteed,
absolute sure that I'm going to come right back you by the book. And then there's the treating me like a human being.
Not advised.
Sorry, what's that, Luke?
I was just trying to say not advised.
Yeah, coming at me by the book, not a good plan.
Come at me as a human being and expect to be treated like a human being.
Come at me as some kind of like machine who is an expert on Canadian and BC employment law,
then expect to get that and
absolutely nothing else. So it all depends. And you know what, I'm not going to say that every
employer is like me. In fact, I don't think they are. But my experience both as an employee and as
an employer has been that if you build that personal relationship with people you all have a way way
better time so we should you're certain that the person that you're dealing with is like a good
person playing ball is usually a better result for both of you yep that's that's kind of yeah
jonathan says your argument is literally abuse is now
normalized deal with it lol no it's really not um at all it i mean if our if our if our if our
company was abusing people and normalizing it i think our retention probably wouldn't be what it is. So I will say that much, and then I
think that's pretty much the end of it. Every situation is different. I'm not saying this will
work in every situation, but there is a relationship and a human element to pretty much everything.
And if you don't understand that, and for whatever reason you're stuck in a dead-end job,
you might want to take a long, hard look in the mirror and figure out if maybe the problem isn't entirely someone else. Maybe not entirely. And some people are just jerks. Some people will
power trip on you, even though they make like $2.22 cents an hour more than you but they just like
get to boss you around they have a bad life and they take it out on you i'm not saying those people
don't exist i'm just saying that they're not everyone and it might be worth kind of thinking
about an alternative perspective try that's why i said try to assess the person you're dealing with
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And let's jump into talking about what Monsieur Louis Rossman is up to.
So let's go ahead and we'll post the GoFundMe in the chat right now.
Let's see if I can find the chat yep there we go so basically the idea is that
lewis has been fighting what i think at times for him has felt like a frustrating pointless
losing battle for right to repair and it is an important battle and honestly like he has been maybe not
the biggest but certainly one of the most visible opponents of companies just for
no i don't want to say no reason because there is a reason i wish i had a soundboard with a
ka-ching noise sound effect,
you know, because that's what I'd be hitting right now. There's absolutely a reason that they make
their devices difficult to repair or in some cases impossible or at least impossible for anyone but
themselves to repair. But it's not a consumer friendly reason. And for anyone with an ounce
of sense, anyone who's in the law, who's a lawmaker,
who is looking at this request and thinking, yeah, we should really be protecting the
corporation's interests here. It's just, it doesn't hold water. Like it is very obvious that
anyone who is against right to repair just plain does not care about their constituents
and just plain does not care about their users.
And finally, just plain does not care about the environment.
That's one of the most frustrating things about certain companies,
some fruit based ones in particular, where they will, you know,
based ones in particular, where they will, you know, talk so much about how green this is, or how recycled this hunk of aluminum is, or whatever else. And then they will go and design,
like the AirPods Pros are a perfect example of a device that did not need to be disposable,
be disposable, but is because go yourself. That's it. Go yourself and the environment. That's it. Why though? Is it because of battery placement or like what's, what's the limiting
factor there? It's very, very difficult to replace the battery. And because the batteries
are so small. So something, a lot of people don't understand about lithium batteries is
that there are various factors that affect
how many charge cycles they can survive and one of the big ones is actually how big the battery is.
The larger the capacity of the battery,
the less likely you are to need to charge it all the way up and discharge it all the way down
and the longer that will take which which maybe, okay, won't make it last
for more cycles, but it will certainly give it a much longer usable lifetime. So for example,
if you have a phone that has a 5,000 milliamp hour battery, which when you get it is good for
a day and a half or a day and three quarters, A, you will not wear out that battery so quickly
because every day you will not completely discharge it. And B, you will not wear out that battery so quickly because every day you will not completely discharge it.
And B, you will actually continue to be able
to use that device for a full day
many, many years into the future
because it had sort of excess battery capacity
in the first place.
Well, AirPods are really terrible for a number of reasons.
Number one is that the battery capacity is extremely low.
So that means
that you're very likely to completely drain them and completely charge them constantly.
Another problem is that because they don't actually last for that long, they last for,
on the pros, I think it's like four hours with active noise cancellation or something like that.
So as soon as you've lost 25% or 30, 40, 50% of your capacity, they're kind of not that usable. Like when you
can't even watch, you know, a movie on the plane, you're not going to keep them, right? They're
garbage at that point. And then problem number three is that they're intended to be stored in
a charging case that charges them up. One of the most damaging things that you can do to a lithium
battery is keep it at either it's fully discharged in either it's fully discharged state or it's completely charged
state.
So there's all these problems that are inherent to the design.
And then the very worst thing about them is that not only were they not designed with
easy battery replacement in mind, it feels like and seems like they were designed with
difficult battery replacement in mind, it feels like and seems like they were designed with difficult battery replacement in
mind. Now, I actually just became aware of this really cool service that I think launched fairly
recently. AirPods battery replacement company. Who are these guys called? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The employee said, ah, bloody hell.
Can't find it right now. Darn it. Where are they? Where are they? I thought they were
AirPod autopsy. Oh man, this is a really long article that I'm pretty sure just leads to a
link to this company that replaces AirPods batteries
for you. So basically what they do is you send in your old ones and they don't send them back.
Yeah, they refurbish them for someone else later and they send you refurbished ones that they
have already refurbished that someone else sent.
I unfortunately can't find it right now,
which is really frustrating.
The Pod Swap, the Pod Swap.
Yeah, that's the one.
Super cool.
I have no idea if these are good people or if they just steal your money or whatever.
I'm not endorsing them in any way.
I've not actually used their service or anything like that. But I am super excited about what they're doing because for whatever
reason, it's like a couple of people that just identified a problem and decided to solve it.
And for whatever reason, Apple, the multi billions and billions and billions of dollar company couldn't do it. But these guys could. So this is a perfect example of how,
in spite of Apple's best efforts to make repairing your device,
not just difficult, but actually impossible,
people care about this stuff.
And it's really frustrating that it's being locked down
and that that is being allowed
legally.
Because, yeah, sure, you might say, yeah, and the free market will regulate itself.
But I think what we've learned is that it doesn't because the powerful players can just
either ignore or buy out or otherwise out-compete, sometimes in unfair or illegal ways, without it ever really being
enforced, their smaller competition. So no, it does actually need to be dealt with on a legislative
level. And what was one of the other really frustrating ones that I went through lately? Right. Oh, man, my in-laws model Y. So Tesla has a really, frankly, crappy attitude towards the right of individuals to repair their vehicles.
And one of the problems is that Tesla just doesn't have replacement parts.
So when we needed to get a windshield, because like rock hit the windshield, it happens.
So when we needed to get a windshield, because like rock hit the windshield, it happens.
So when we needed to get a windshield replacement, we discovered that there were only,
I think it was two or three places in the entire lower mainland that did Tesla windshields. And then when it got scratched, I think there were two paint shops that were willing to do
Tesla paint because there's just no access to these parts. And so you might think to yourself,
like, oh, you know, the market will regulate itself if Tesla's competition has an easy and
economical way to, you know, get a replacement windshield or to get the paint repaired on your
vehicle, then surely they will have to do that in order to compete. But that's not actually the
case at all. So having it just written into law
that you have to make parts available to consumers is just plain necessary. So none of this, I think,
even necessarily has a ton to do with the main arguments that Lewis is making about it. You know,
he's looking at much bigger picture things. Hi, Lewis. I was told. I accidentally clicked that link again. He's looking at much bigger picture things like farm equipment, for example, medical equipment, military equipment. and vote against their own budgetary bloat because they are not authorized
or cannot get parts to repair their own equipment
that they requisitioned for their own stupid military.
Imagine that.
You don't have to
because all you need to do is watch yourself some C-SPAN.
So it's incredibly frustrating.
This is a really important campaign.
I was talking to him a little while ago and he seemed kind of down about this battle. But hey, maybe this is the next stage. He's trying to raise $6 million. I don't know exactly why that number is. I only became aware of this video shortly before the show, so I haven't actually watched it yet but i think it has something to do with uh making it a direct ballot initiative rather than waiting around
for politicians to decide that this is a priority which they won't because yeah you know well
i can't think of a reason jk money i haven't fully dove into it but uh there there is also
a long and detailed description on the gofundundMe that, first of all, denotes something actually pretty interesting that says that you can go ahead and add 100 grand to the total because there was a direct wire transfer from somebody of 100 grand.
So it bypassed the, I think GoFundMe has a cut.
I could be wrong.
So it bypasses that, which is pretty cool.
And you can throw that on top.
So he's already at 324,000. Am I right be wrong. So it bypasses that, which is pretty cool. And you can throw that on top. So he's already at $324,000.
Am I right?
Yeah, $324,500, which is pretty freaking cool.
Also, if you expand the readme a little bit, I'm sure he has better details on this somewhere.
But it says, I've reached out to the firm that was able to get a direct ballot initiative
passed in MA for automotive right
to repair that uh they were very helpful and explained how and why it would cost 5 to 20
million to have a chance at success um i think he goes into it more there but that's yeah so he has
details all right so guys uh do go check that out i I posted links in the video description. Oh, here we go. Lewis is
actually in the chat. Sup, Lewis? L. Ekman had a good piece in the New York Times, apparently,
on the Marine Corps. Oh, man. That's the kind of stuff that's just like your blatant, obvious
corruption that you just kind of, you can't figure out. I don't know. know i get it there's a lot of sort of single issue voters out
there you know whether it's uh one way or the other whether it's like let's take something
super controversial like gun laws for example or abortion rights for another example i get it guys
you're you're single issue voters and you see it as this binary choice. There's this
person that you perceive as doing it your way, and there's this person that you perceive as
doing it the other way. But that's the whole reason that within the two-party system,
or in our case, three-party system, that's the whole reason for things like leadership races
or primaries. You're supposed to weed out the people that do not care
about you at all. You're supposed to turn these things where they demonstrate so obviously and so
clearly that they don't care about you at all. And you're supposed to get them out of office.
You're supposed to make it impossible for them to win so that someone who supports ideas that are closer to what you believe can still be elected, but they don't have to be a complete piece of garbage.
That's how it's supposed to work.
Someone in the chat said the right to repair is OK, but not everyone needs to try and repair stuff.
It has nothing to do with right to repair at all.
Yeah, not even remotely.
It's a right i would yeah and that also means that there's a right for you to be able to go to someone to repair your
thing to make it exactly it's not necessarily for you to do i would highly suggest that you
having posted that uh check out the gofundme and whether you're going to donate or not there's a
lot of good details in the description under it so jump over there and check it out oh man it's the it's the right think of it more like
the right for it to be repaired all right yeah yeah okay um grant says parts availability is
one thing but companies should not be forced to share their software well okay so that's a really
really cool conversation that we can not get into fully right now, but we can at least get into a little bit. Okay, so parts availability is one thing, and it should be absolutely available. But Grant says companies should not be forced to share my my special software that could allow people to
reverse engineer ios and compete with me say for example but if we're talking about the kind of
software that you need say for example to pair a screen or a battery to the motherboard of the
phone i would make the argument that the creation of that software in the first place should have been illegal and that software shouldn't exist and therefore it's a non-issue now you don't have
to share it if if you make it public you know or you can make it public sure privatization of the
non-openness of that software should be yeah it's about yeah so lewis lewis said it said it really well here right to repair is about having
the right or the freedom to do it it's not about forcing you to repair your stuff uh he says i
wouldn't fix my own microwave since i'd probably give my entire household cancer uh fair point
people should stick to what they know but at least lewis would have the option to take his
microwave to someone i mean if they're in new york you would have the option to take his microwave to someone.
I mean, if they're in New York, you know, because they got to pay for the rent of their
unreasonable building that they operate their business out of, you know, maybe,
you know, maybe it would cost more than a new microwave anyway. But at least he'd have a choice,
he'd have the option. So there's still people super chatting right now
when what you guys should really be doing
is you should be over on the GoFundMe
and you should be demonstrating
that you care about right to repair.
Because, you know,
even if he doesn't get the full 6 million,
I'd like to think that if enough people get behind this,
some momentum can be started
and it can, I i mean some progress is better
than what we have right now guys and it's and it's possible that like like that hundred thousand
dollar donation that came through it's possible that if enough of a splash is made and enough
money is is raised um that various repair companies that would be interested in this
possibly going through could start getting behind it which could be pretty huge yeah all right let's see if there's anything else that we
uh needed to cover here on the show today oh yeah oh i have a bounty can i do my bounty real quick
uh the rio pmp 300 um Here's the Wikipedia page.
Okay, it looks a little something like that.
This was one of the first portable MP3 players.
It was introduced in September of 1998.
Is this serial?
Yeah, I think it's a printer port, actually.
So what I would love is if you guys,
if you own one of these, we'd love to either buy it off you or borrow it from you for the purposes of making a video, kind of looking back at this product and the controversy that surrounded it with the RIAA suing to keep it off the market and stuff like that.
It's just a really, really cool topic, and we'd love to have it as a piece of tech
history to really kind of dig into as we go through it. Oh, Nick reminds me that there is an
LTT store thing to bring up to you guys. If you head over to lttstore.com, it's a real good time
to do that because we have stealth hoodies back in stock. And get this this not only can you pick yourself up a stealth hoodie but we are doing
20 off the orange text 21 ounce ltd water bottle to go with your stealth hoodie so go ahead add
the stealth hoodie to cart add the orange text 21 ounce water bottle to cart and you will get a $20 discount on your order. That is going to be
active until I think 24 hours after there's a video coming soon that will announce that promo,
I think on the weekend. And so it will be active until 24 hours after that video goes up. So you're
going to want to grab that real quick styles fast here, ladies and gentlemen. All right.
What topic did you want to hit luke
uh well i wanted to go through some of the title topics that we had i've also had a lot of requests
for us to talk about talk about a ubiquity breach um that i i don't think is necessarily in the doc
um but maybe we can touch on that but first off let's do the xbox game pass is getting
playstation exclusive bracket s um maybe more but so far one mlb the show 21 produced by sony
interactive entertainment will launch on xbox game pass this is the first time that the franchise
has been available on non-sony platforms sony announced in december time that the franchise has been available on non-Sony platforms. Sony announced in December 2019 that the franchise would branch out to other consoles,
but this is the first time it's actually been happening, which is a pretty big time gap.
That's hilarious.
This move does follow, as we talked about on WAN Show,
Horizon Zero Dawn going to PC and announcing that Days Gone would also come to PC in the spring.
So, pretty cool.
Even though an Xbox is just a PC at this point,
it still feels kind of wrong, you know?
Yeah, it was weird.
Yeah, it just feels a little wrong.
I wonder, I gotta wonder,
like how much did Microsoft pay
to be a launch platform
for a Sonyy interactive entertainment
game i mean okay how trippy is that going to be okay the first time people launch this game on
their xbox and a sony splash screen comes up like what very odd we've seen a decent of this kind of
stuff like you can buy ea pass on Steam now that's weird I think you can maybe
buy the Ubisoft one as well I don't really know I don't like those services so I'm not doing any of
those but there's a lot of crosstalk in these realms now which I mean kind of makes sense it
just feels odd yeah I don't think we even need to dive way too much
further into that just wanted to bring it up um what else do you want to chat about today
breaking news amd zen 3 cpu is vulnerable to specter-like attacks via the psf or predictive
store forwarding feature amd has advised customers to disable a feature on their newest zen 3 base cpus
following evidence that the specter-like attack is possible um there's it provides speculative
execution by guessing the relationship between loads and stores while waiting for address
calculations to complete yada yada y. It sucks. It apparently requires very specific
gadgets to exist in the victim domain. There was a lot of this type of stuff was like
massive, horrible vulnerabilities, but required a lot of access. So I'm not surprised. It's
probably in that realm again. This will probably never affect the average end user.
But it is unfortunate.
And yeah.
In other news, man, I don't even want to talk about the 11th Gen CPU launch.
I'm sorry, JA.
You put a lot of work into that topic, but I just can't make myself care right now.
We can talk about how we completed our 10 million subscriber PC.
Okay.
10 million subscribers was a hot minute ago for us.
We're up to 13 on the main channel now.
But it took a long time to build this computer, okay?
Can I spoil it for you?
Can I spoil it for the WAN show?
Is that okay?
Okay. So it's a PC build. All right. Imagine the 10 million Linus Tech Tips PC build.
What would it be in your mind?
I don't even know. It's a celebration of 10 million youtube subscribers i genuinely have no clue it's not gold plated everyone says it's solid gold or gold plated
it's not it's not i jumped onto gold plated i jumped onto ten thousand dollar computer but
like i feel like you've done that yeah we've done better than that yeah come on come on you got this i believe
in you it can't be 10 like it can't i can't think of anything that would include 10 million
okay all right okay so you know the diamond play button okay we built a pc in it
okay that's pretty cool we turned the diamond rgb
that's pretty sweet okay that's pretty cool okay that's sick so the whole thing
yeah go ahead did you like we used an intel knuck yeah and the whole thing the back of it is cnc'd
out and like it is beautiful it is absolutely immaculate the job that was done of it not by us
um so it's gorgeous uh so it had to be 3d scanned in order to even do that. Like this video is wild.
It's going to be a wild ride.
Lots of really cool stuff.
And we actually use, we have a fan, so it's actively cooled, you know, in case.
But we're pretty sure that with the setup we have,
like it's got a heat pipe cooler that was built by Alex.
We're pretty sure that with the heat pipe cooler that we've designed,
the whole thing would probably soak enough heat to act as a heat sink and cool the bloody thing. It is so sick.
It's got Thunderbolt 3, so it can actually be used with an external graphics card. It's got six cores
that'll turbo up to like four and a half gigahertz. So the thing could actually be used as a gaming
rig. That's pretty cool cool it's really small especially super
super cool and all three points of the play shaped diamond at the front have rgb leds in them
so the way it glows is like freaking awesome i am so happy that it turned out because those
uh play buttons are pretty hard to earn. And if it wasn't awesome anymore,
then that would really suck.
How upset would you be if it cracked?
I don't want to spoil too much,
but it ain't immaculate anymore.
Oh, no!
Okay, okay, okay.
All right.
Yikes.
Hmm.
Okay, next topic.
Yeah, that's okay.
That's okay.
It's not too bad.
It's not too bad.
Should we touch on this Ubiquity thing?
I don't know anything about it.
I honestly don't know enough about it
to really talk about it anyway so
basically ubiquity had some kind of data breach and was not uh forthcoming enough about it is
sort of the gist of it that i've gathered so far but i don't know enough about it to
really talk about it so that's really challenging okay there's There's a thread on the forum titled Whistleblower Ubiquity Breach Catastrophic.
It looks pretty well put together with sources and individual thoughts sectioned out.
All that kind of stuff was posted by Dark Force on the forum.
Maybe check that out if you're interested.
For sure.
But other than that, I think we should probably hit some super chats i don't have any from about the
first 10 minutes of the show because youtube bugged out for whatever reason but i have the
rest of them so i'll i'll go down uh there's quite a few that are saying not to shut down the only
fans so i guess man i've gone from it's definitely dead to, oh, man, we might have to keep this
thing because I can't believe how much money it's making.
We could literally hire more engineers for Creator Warehouse or more writers or editors
or whatever.
We could literally grow the company based on this kind of revenue to to like okay i think it's gonna get old maybe
we need to you know put her down old yeller style before she starts you know crapping all over the
carpets and stuff um and then now people are like don't do it don't do it it's like okay i don't i
don't know what you people want from me so i don't know where i'm at on that so i'm going to ignore the rest of the comments about that for now yeah um keegan says oh keep the only fans oh no yep
that's another way a good way to do weird stuff and monetize it directly okay yep yeah it is that
highlander if you have a subscriber that paid for a month they have to get a month otherwise
you could potentially be sued for violation of contract okay all right that's okay
it's it's all about this um we did talk about it for a long time okay in their defense um
it was a chungus topic okay this is this is actually a good question adrian karrison says
do you think it was funny because you were doing it like like creating an only fans account or
because you were doing it it was funny because i was doing it that was creating an OnlyFans account, or because you were doing it. It was funny because
I was doing it. That was the joke. And that was what I clarified to someone on Twitter who I think
was not, I don't know. It's one of those weird interactions where someone says, I wasn't offended,
but here are all the problems. And it's like, okay, I don't really know how to respond to that
because if you're not actually mad, then why are we talking about this?
It's something I definitely have personal challenges with.
Like, if you're mad, let's talk about it.
And if you're not mad, then let's not talk about it.
So, you know.
So, yeah, the point was it was funny because it's very out of character for me. And because, you know, the whole nerdy 30 something guy on OnlyFans thing is a juxtaposition that I found amusing, particularly because it's me. And I don't think that that's, you know, OnlyFans material, based on what i've seen of the platform and the kind of
quality content that you can find there i just don't think i'm it um let's see what else we've
got uh oh man pretty much every comment is just scroll down like a bunch about this
talked about it for like half the show show so Roach Dog says what about competition
under the free market and all that capitalist
propaganda yeah I'm sorry
it's a lie
the one good medic says
did you guys cover Lewis Rossman's oh
yes thank
you one good medic
what else we got here
Andre says WWE is evil they won't give them health care and call them
contractors when they get hurt yeah wwe is an organization that i personally um have not
supported and um knowing everything that i know about them i don't think i would start supporting
them honestly professional sports to me,
and this was going to be, oh boy, here comes a hot take. Professional sports to me is kind of
offensive in a lot of ways. A lot of people get really upset about the way that amateur athletes
are treated in particular. So like college athletes where these schools are making a ton of money, having these people there, you know, competing in their athletic programs, not sharing it with the actual athletes themselves, basically compensating them with exposure.
And, you know, it's kind of it's one of those things that's like, hello, should obviously be illegal. You know, people being young or like in some cases, even underage
does not make it better.
That makes it worse, not better.
Paul, please.
Very high costs financially and whatnot.
Yeah, so that's an obvious one.
And to be clear, some people in the chat are like, sports are dumb.
I don't think sports are dumb.
I think that achieving the very best that you can and teamwork and competition are all
healthy things and a part of human nature that, quite frankly, you ain't getting rid
of.
I think sports is healthy.
I just think that a lot of aspects of professional sports are extremely
unhealthy. And one of the things that bothers me about professional sports is that the people
in ways that wouldn't even just wouldn't even be legal in other industries get treated like cattle.
And I know a lot of people are looking at it going like, I don't feel bad for them. They make
millions of dollars a year. But you got to understand for every, you know, outstanding athlete who's making millions of dollars a year on like this
bulletproof contract with a no trade clause and, and, you know, injury reserve sort of guaranteed
minimum payment or whatever it is that they've managed to negotiate. For every one of those you see, there are dozens, hundreds, thousands,
even tens of thousands of struggling athletes
that are basically just treated like a product
because that's what they are.
And it was the last NHL lockout that really made me sit
and kind of reflect on this whole,
this is millionaires going to war with billionaires.
And quite frankly, I,
I kind of feel like, uh, I kind of feel like a walking wallet and I'm just not going to support this anymore. So it's not that I don't love sports. If I'm, if I'm at Boston pizza or whatever,
and hockey's on, honestly, I can't look away. I love it. Um, but I just, I just can't. I can't do it anymore.
Because it's just kind of gross.
They basically get treated like horses.
There's no, you know, what was the name of the guy that Todd Bertuzzi bashed into the ice?
Steve?
It's escaping me right now. i want to say ah i i'm really sorry i can't remember but basically sorry steve moore steve moore yeah
steve moore um you know career destroyed and like life damaged and it's just like, well, well, you know, them's the brakes. What
happens happens. And it's like, you know, the executive sitting up in the box, they don't take
these risks. And they're making way more money than the cattle that are running around on the ice.
So yeah, I don't know. It just makes me uncomfortable. Uh, Phil Taylor. I just want to say massive
thanks for helping me fill my time over the last two weeks. I have a 16 day old baby and must have
watched about 7,000 videos so far. LTT content, my savior. Hey, no problem, Phil. Uh, Kinestic
says, I got to say one hour before we get to the first piece of tech news is impressive.
Uh, any news on shirt colors other than than black? Okay. Okay. Okay.
The Creator Warehouse team, I swear to you, they're working on it. We have really good candidates for
new shirts. It's just really hard to find shirts that A, meet our quality standards, B, meet our
volume standards. We need to be able to get good supply of them. C, meet our price standards, and
D, meet our standards for the factories that they are coming from.
It is not easy. I'm sorry. Nate Smith, oh, sent 50. Okay, thanks, Nate. Companies that deny right
to repair are evil, says Captain Viridian. Tesla, Apple, John Deere, just to name some of the worst
offenders. They care more about tiny gains on their quarterly reports than reputation or
customers. I don't understand how their reputation survived this kind of stuff.
Because every person who buys a pair of AirPods is theoretically, not even theoretically,
is likely going to have it die because it's designed to die.
And shouldn't they be mad?
Like, I don't understand it.
And then you'll hear people be like, yeah, man, AppleCare.
It's like, no, AppleCare is, AppleCare. It's like, no.
AppleCare is not named correctly.
It's called AppleCare.
But what it is is Apple take your money.
Apple required to purchase.
Yeah, they don't do it because they care.
They do it because it's an insurance plan and they did the math. Like, I find it.
That's another thing I find very offensive.
Oof.
Alex Buckingham says,
he's trying to fight this in the face of so much money fighting him.
I can imagine that can get you down.
Keep fighting, Lewis.
At Lewis Rossman.
Heck yeah, man.
Yeah, while we've been sitting here as well,
going through the Super Chats,
there's been a decent amount of messages coming through uh of people saying that they donated to that good stuff
that is very cool um thanks again nate uh lauren i'm a sex worker from new zealand i got a chuckle
out of the only fans video it is a sore spot in our community though so many people seeing us as a punchline as a
longtime viewer i trust you not to but that trust i trust you not to but that trust was earned
uh thank you lauren i really did i really did see myself as the punchline um so it was that like
this this tech company suddenly went down that route it wasn't yeah yeah and the thing is like i i okay
again wow we're gonna have a lot of hot takes on the on the land show today i have nothing against
sex work or pornography i am very against exploitation in those industries which are
as absolutely rampant um unfortunately but done ethically i got no problem with it. I'm not trying to contribute to any sort of stigma about it. It's not like when Razer did their Razer
Chroma hair thing, they weren't making fun of hair products. It's just that it was uncharacteristic
of Razer to make a hair product, which is what a lot of humor is based on, is surprise.
Right. Yep.
Juxtaposition of expectation versus reality.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
So I think that's pretty much it for the WAN Show today.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel bye i was trying to get my point across without saying subverting expectations
i saw a bunch of people on twitch chat say subverting expectations i hate that ever since so many like movies and and just like things that i love were ruined because some
someone new came in that didn't even like it like halo or star wars yeah like we're gonna make it
better by subverting expectations just god this is supposed to be funny. Well, sometimes it's funny, but mostly it's not supposed to be funny.
No ETA, Nathaniel. Sorry.
Okay. I'm
cutting it.