The WAN Show - I'm Changing My Name - WAN Show May 5, 2023

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

Get $5 off your Magic Spoon order with code WAN at https://lmg.gg/magicspoon Check out GOG at: https://lmg.gg/GOG Check out the fine audio equipment Headphones.com has to offer at https://lmg.gg/HeadphonesDotCom Timestamps: (Courtesy of Andrew :)) - Note timing may be off due to sponsor change: 0:00 Start 0:05 Topics 1:22 Intro 1:49 Topic 1: Discord Usernames 2:08 Background 5:00 This doesn't make sense 8:37 Counter argument 10:51 How would you run it? 13:24 Discord vs Slack/Teams 15:51 Why is this happening? 19:03 Topic 2: OBS supports AV1 Streaming 19:58 Why this is important 23:15 H264 vs AV1 25:59 Floatplane AV1 and updates 33:00 LTT Store Update 33:29 New t-shirts 34:42 Cyber Stats Mousepad 36:55 Merch Messages 1 37:00 Future of Handheld Gaming 44:03 LTT's Audiences 53:14 Topic 3: EA Woes 55:22 Ultra settings in games 57:15 Dubious claims 58:13 Topic 4: Pixel Fold 1:00:24 Phone stats 1:01:04 Foldable phone woes 1:10:07 $1700 1:17:12 Sponsors 1:21:31 Proposal Pt 1 1:25:10 Merch Messages 2 1:25:13 Biggest crowd mishap 1:28:00 Favorite South Park episode? 1:29:02 Young vs old in tech 1:31:46 Justice for Dan's christmas album 1:33:08 Topic 5: Open Source AI 1:39:12 The problem with rumors 1:44:20 Topic 6: AMD 7040u 1:46:40 Chip specs 1:47:56 Microsoft Hardware 1:54:41 Proposal Pt 2 1:58:25 Topic 7: Biofire's Smart Weapon 1:59:59 Luke's gripes 2:01:25 Linus' smart weapon idea 2:02:12 WAN Show: After Dark 2:03:17 Private chef 2:07:08 8 gigs of VRAM 2:11:21 Computing Competition 2:12:39 Bird Seed 2:13:01 Liability 2:15:28 Licensure in tech 2:17:40 LTT products flops vs tops 2:21:13 Future tech 2:23:44 Parrot video calls 2:25:21 WAN show format 2:27:54 New channel ideas 2:29:53 Big and tall LTT store 2:30:31 Windows File Explorer 2:32:10 Workplace communication 2:35:25 Linus' 10 points for good videos 2:42:06 Sponsor disclosure 2:43:12 Big business 2:45:30 History of tech changes 2:46:15 Speakers practicality 2:47:26 Gaming now vs then 2:50:40 HR software 2:52:02 Custom screwdrivers 2:52:46 Videogame soundtracks 2:55:21 Roast of Linus 2:55:55 Leadership skills 2:57:19 Ultrawide monitors 2:59:09 Windbreaker variations 2:59:47 Folding phone woes 3:00:02 Bigscreen Beyond 3:01:34 WAN Show: Rapid Fire! 3:04:26 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is up, L's and W's, and welcome to the WAN Show! We've got a great show lined up for you guys today, lots of great topics, actually, including... What? Discord? Discord is taking away the four-digit numbers at the end of username... How could they do this? You can't be Luke number 8,642 you know 42 i was luke 0001 no and they took it away from me no way i have no idea why they must have given it to a more important luke probably yeah rude probably luke wilson uh in other news ea is blaming gamers for using hard high-end hardware on windows 10 for star wars jedi survivor performance issues we're going to be getting into that what else

we got today that's the one i wanted to talk about and you got wrecked the pixel fold was officially announced after you know just like every other Pixel device, it was leaked to every... Wow. It's a folding phone. That's a man that wants to replace his phone. Also, OBS adds AV1 for YouTube live streams, which is actually huge. We'll talk about that.

Actually huge. Not huge, but like we're lying to you. Huge. Actually huge. Huge. to you huge actually huge huge why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which I completely forget what it is. Right, Discord. Ah. I have to change my name.

Yeah, me too, I guess. This is... Okay, let's go through the facts first. Because we have mad frenzy. Okay, our original article here is from The Verge, but also from Discord themselves. This is not fake news. Discord usernames will be evolving. So instead of 5i and hashtag eight nine three

six oh phoebe probably pretty sure uh now we're gonna be phoebe handle at phoebe is cool because you are obviously not going to get at phoebe which i think the idea here is that it's gonna make usernames easier to share but we know from experience right the people just camp them and stuff like every creator's name is just gonna be gone yeah up to literally thousands of numbers after it I mean I learned this way back

when having a good at hotmail dot com email address was a mark of being kind of cool and with it. Oh, yeah. I was cool and with it. And then the same thing happened with Gmail. And then the same thing happened with Twitter. And now they're saying, that seems like a good system.

Let's follow those. We solved that before, but let's unsolve it. Let's go back to the just at and a string of characters. So in theory, I kind of see where they're coming from. but let's unsolve it. Let's go back to the just at and a string of characters. So in theory, I kind of see where they're coming from because as a brand new user, there are certain aspects of Discord's user interface and user experience. He struggles with it so much.

He can literally barely use Discord. It's actually very weird because you're usually very good and nimble in different user interfaces. Then you hit discord it's just like there are certain things i do find incredibly confusing like the fact that all of your individual chats are like mixed in with the servers and stuff yeah it took me a little while to kind of wrap my brain around it but you haven't seen me try to use discord in quite some time i'm

fairly proficient these days. Okay, okay. And one of the things that was a little bit confusing for me was the hashtag numbers. Because I didn't, coming into it completely cold, not looking at how to Discord guide. And not really having anyone show me how. I was just sitting there trying to set it up. Because I think the main reason. You needed a tech tip. No, I think the reason I got it first was because we added a discord like Jake created the LTT discord

And I was like, okay. Well, I should probably finally use this have an account or something I hadn't really I hadn't really Gamed with friends in a very long time like since I used mumble with my group of friends So my okay all this newfangled Discord. Yeah, especially when the kids were quite young, you were pretty... Oh, yeah, they weren't touching it yet. Yeah, and you were offline basically for a while. Yeah, I showed them how to use Discord.

That came way later. And so this hashtag number thing was actually a little bit confusing. And unless you're copy-pasting, it's a little bit harder to remember. I mean, obviously, it's not nearly as hard as remembering your icq number back in the day yeah fair enough which but like i don't know my numbers on discord but then here's the thing if the intent here is to make things more shareable make them easier to understand we know that users are going to fill their their apps with special characters and with numbers anyway. And we know that remembering a four digit number is not actually a huge problem.

And you can individually change your nickname on every server and every chat anyways. I mean, just knowing someone's name isn't going to matter. Phone numbers here in the lower mainland used to be seven numbers. Do you know your first seven digit phone number that you ever had like your home phone? Yes. Do you know your first seven-digit phone number that you ever had, like your home phone? Yes. Addresses, street addresses, are five numeric digits here.

Do you remember the four to five number? Okay. Yeah. This is not a huge problem. And, okay, again, I haven't even gone through the facts here, but one of the things that I've seen, at least speculated, we'll get into facts in a second. For now, I'm just angry. I'm not even angry. I just, I'm just.

Like why? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just, I'm asking why. the what what's what's a fact here is that it's not that hard and it's not an unreasonable expectation and it's not a new thing to expect people to remember a four digit number and that's perfectly fine and so the fact that you're now changing it is gonna sow a lot of discord ah very good on the platform too late all seemingly in the name of making it more user friendly in a way that quite honestly if i go back even further as a non-user of the at system i found extremely confusing when i first got set up on twitter i would whenever i would read a tweet i would read a tweet, I would read the at symbol as at.

So I'm reading along and it's like, hey, at Luke, something, something, something. That's how I would read it. I came into Twitter pretty late as well. Anyway, let's see what the rationale is. Really? Oh, yeah, super late. I basically ignored it. I was like, oh, I don't feel like dealing with this.

You were definitely on Twitter in 2012. Yes. Because our first back-and-forth direct message interaction is hilarious. Oh. I don't remember this. Don't read it. Why? Read it later.

Okay, sure. I don't know. Joined November 2011. When did Twitter start? 2006. Whoa! Right? Okay, but did like anyone use it at that time?

No, yeah, for sure. Alright. Yeah, so it's really funny because I think the only reason I started Twitter, yeah, and the timing seems about right. Was it 2011? Yeah. It would have been when the LTT channel was starting to kind of gain some momentum. And I was looking at it going like, oh, I should probably have some kind of presence online other than this. kind of presence online other than this. And it was probably around the time that NCIX was starting to build up a Twitter presence

because all of a sudden companies being on social media was a thing so that you could respond to people generating hate storms complaining about you and that sort of thing, which is still what it's used for today, which is fantastic. Okay, so let's go through the facts here, now that I've talked through how sort of flabbergasting I'm finding this. I don't know if that's a word. Discord has announced it will be changing its current username system, which uses a four-digit tag to differentiate users with the same name. This likely means that many users will have to change their usernames

due to possible duplication. And, okay, in fairness, this is another thing that is a little bit confusing about the four-digit numbers, is that when you are searching for someone, if you don't have their digits, it can bring up a lot of garbage results. And that's valid. The company will prioritize long-time users in line for name changes, and users will still be able to use a non-unique screen name in addition to their username. Discord noted that while the original system was created to allow users to use whatever name they wanted,

the tag system was often too complicated or obscure to remember, causing confusion and unnecessary difficulty finding other users. Now, this is huge. This is a really important note in our notes here. Of course, many current Discord users do not necessarily want to be easy to find. This is so huge. On the one hand, I can see how people having MrBeast hashtag whatever random numbers can lead to impersonation on the platform. I can see how that would be a concern. On the other hand, for the real MrBeast, if he just wants his Discord username to be MrBeast

and not really worry about people finding him that easily, then he can just be at MrBeast. And only people who know the correct four digits are going to be able to add him unless they want to just try to add every MrBeast. And I can tell you, if you randomly add Jimmy on Discord, he's not going to add you. In fact, I think I had to ping him like three or four times via other means. Be like, hey, add me. Another reason for the change is to make Discord's username system more similar to what users

are already familiar with, namely from other social networks, especially Twitter. So our discussion question here, because I think I've done all the talking and Luke has not really contributed his thoughts too much, is what is the advantage of becoming more like other social platforms here? Is this just them chasing a broader user base so that they can continue justifying outside investment by showing growth?

Or what are we looking at here exactly? I think, honestly... outside investment by showing growth or what are we looking at here exactly i think honestly what would you do with discord if you owned discord i would figure out how to just make it profitable month over month and i would enjoy just being the top voice chat thing for gamers and a lot of non-gamers on the entire internet. I think that if I had to try to expand outside of the gaming crowd, there are much lower hanging fruit

or rather much more important steps that I could take than changing our username system. And what I would probably want to do is I would probably want to fork the platform. So I would take Discord as it is, and then I would leave it pretty much as it is, with Mimi loading screens and silly cute little pig characters or whatever they are. And I would leave a well-established username system. and I would leave a well-established username system.

All the cool things that are great about Discord, streamer mode, stuff like that, I would leave that exactly as it is and then I would take all of the underlying code, all the backend, and I would re-skin it as Discord Pro or probably just something else entirely and I'd create a professional product that is more designed for uh you know getting your grandma set up on so something a little bit more streamlined

where i would i would borrow from you know maybe the earlier days of of skype for example in terms of functionality and in terms of interface but have the whole thing run on the same back on the same back end because they've done a great job. Discord is almost never down, right? The voice quality is really good considering that it's a free service. That's another thing is when I create my premium or my professional product or whatever else it is, I'd want to figure out how to make it paid in some way. I'd want to try and generate revenue from it. But, like, man that the way

that you can screen share on discord just with very low latency super cool i mean it'd be great for all kinds of other uses be it business meetings or calling overseas relatives or wherever it's it's just a great voice i honestly find it a lot more generally usable than something like slack or teams but it lacks some specific like team-based uh features so like yeah if they had more of a bit of a feature rollout for mostly managing users sure in a corporate sense but other than that like the channel creation i prefer discord's channel creation um and category creation compared to Teams or Slack by a lot. Like, okay, so you're upset about Teams. On Slack, I can't create categories for people.

Really? I can make private channels so they don't see them. And then I can invite specific teams or specific people to the private channels. So it's just tedious for no reason. Yes. So as an admin, you can't just say, hey, all of you work on front end. I put you all in here.

Go. So you can to a certain degree. If you make like every single channel private, and then you only invite certain teams to them. Right, but if you just want to have the channels, and it's just in a channel list, and then you want to go, okay, you, you, and you, you, you, and you. Then no matter what, it's just a category called channels.

And it's all the dump of all the channels that you're in. And then you as the individual user need to create categories and sort them like that. Maybe someone has found a way around this. The last time that I tried to figure this out, the official answer online was like, yeah, it's up to the individual user. It's great. Everyone can organize it the way they want.

I'm like, no. No. No one has ever asked for that. People, well, no, users might. The problem is, and I'm sure that Luke and Dan can speak to this, users will not organize it well. They will do it wrong. No offense, users.

But I know that you guys have experienced people coming up with their own systems for organizing passwords, for example, as you've been going through and doing the audit. Did they do a good job? No. No. Not even slightly. It's actually stunning. Like, how many individual days go by where there is at least one thing that we find that is just like, holy crap.

How did this possibly happen? It's kind of wild. And we love our team. World class. I feel. World class. I feel. And I could be completely wrong. And maybe I feel. World class. I feel. And I could be completely wrong.

And maybe I'm a big dumb dumb. I feel like it's a PM that's just trying to make a splash. Really? The disloyal thing? What's the point? Does anyone really complain about the numbers? I found it confusing at first. And they did say there the argument that i saw i don't know if it was technically from them or not so i shouldn't say they did say

um but the argument that i saw was that they are trying to fall in line with the average setup that other platforms do which seems mostly true that is mostly what other platforms do right i think sort of i don't think facebook has an app and facebook is yeah like an at username okay to be completely honest i didn't even realize they were adding the at at the front yeah that is weird uh i meant like the the number system after the name yeah that's odd seems completely unnecessary yeah man displaying that all the time is just gonna look so stupid it looks stupid on Twitter. It always looked stupid on Twitter.

We just got used to it. So we're adopting an arbitrary, meaningless symbol thing to replace our arbitrary, meaningless number thing that goes along with your username. Why? Wow. I'm so much more against this now. I knew you were talking about the at earlier,

but I thought you were just like off topic. No. Wow. Why? It's, it's useless. It doesn't, it doesn't provide any value.

If every single user has it, then what's the point? This is, this is great. So people are saying look the handles are going to be hidden in the same way that the the numbers are Now you're gonna show you display name which is fine Because it is gonna. Just not matter now in the same way that it just didn't matter already and the amount of just

man Remember when we migrated Floatplane from the forum to the dedicated site? Asking a user to go into their account and do anything, you might as well ask them to move the moon for you. And I don't mean that users are bad people or they're lazy. I just mean they have a f***ing a life and they have other stuff to do and for a lot of people going in and micromanaging their profile and picking usernames is not real

high up on their list of cool fun things that i want to do when i've got you know 45 minutes of earned game time because i played piano and it's time to play games That's not real high up on their list of what they want to do they want to open their game and start playing Say I'm gonna build this tree hut in Minecraft. Okay. I played an hour in 45 minutes or whatever What did you say you have you have 45 minutes game time? So I played an hour and a half of piano. I deserve to cut this tree down With Bob yeah, so it's really it's really frustrating it's just kind of stupid and I I don't I don't I don't understand why and I think we can just move on things I do understand why this is exciting OBS just added a v1 support YouTube live streams. This is super cool.

It's happening. Want to talk us through this one? Yeah. So OBS Studios 29.1 update supports streaming to YouTube using the AV1 encoder. Streaming with AV1 results in boosted image quality and bit rate that can be reduced by up to 40% without sacrificing image quality. Yeah, so you can kind of pick one. You can keep your bitrate the same

and have better image quality, or you can lower your bitrate, which could save you on bandwidth costs or data... Well, those are the same thing. Could also make it easier for your viewers to watch at original quality, I guess. I'm trying to think of... That's more reverting to the previous one where you're you're gaining more quality right with less

bandwidth i think the main way this is going to be used which is a massive win is to achieve the same amount but with way less bandwidth yeah and that's that okay the cynic in me will go, wow, good, a win for Amazon. I'm sure glad that they can save money on all these Twitch streams. But this is actually a W for everybody. It is, yeah. Unnecessary internet bits, unnecessary traffic is harmful for absolutely everyone involved. It clogs up the pipes, or tubes. The tubes. Excuse me.

It is just a series of no but it as much as that is a stupid analogy and the internet is not a series of tubes it's actually not entirely wrong either yeah the more data that you have unnecessarily taking up your switching capacity the less data you can deliver more quickly for everything else. This is a win all around. This is good. And it's going to cost you maybe a little bit

in terms of encoding and decoding power consumption. That's, I think, maybe the worst possible outcome of this. But as AV1 hardware encode and decode becomes far more prevalent over, I'd say probably the next two years or so. Especially good implementations. It's going to be like kind of on any new product within about the next 24 months, I would guess.

This is going to be freaking awesome. I mean, we've tested it fairly extensively, especially when Intel released their Arc graphics cards, and we found out, hey, they're the first ones to deliver a next-gen GPU with AV1 encoding. How does this work? The AV1 encoding felt next-gen. It really is. No real other part of the card necessarily did, but the AV1 coding 100% did.

100%. They totally delivered there. Another sign in favor of AV1 approaching mass adoption is that Matrox Video, whose graphics cards are widely used for workstations, video walls, and digital signage, has released a new series of Luma graphics cards powered by Intel's Alchemist. We were just talking about this. Architecture. Which includes Intel's excellent AV1 transcoding ability. Makes sense. includes Intel's excellent AV1 transcoding ability.

Makes sense. Twitch does not currently support AV1, but I'd bet on it coming. Dave, I mean, I guess they had that source code leak a while back. We could probably check and see if they're... AV1 was not very flavor of the month at that time. If we were unethical folks who would download the Twitch source code leak,

which I am not saying we are, we could look at it and we could see if maybe they had some early work on AV1 or something like that that they were looking into. Yeah, you don't want to kick that business. They were definitely working on it at the time. I mean, if not Twitch, then certainly Amazon. There's no way that folks like the team that's working on Prime, Prime Video or Netflix or YouTube,

there's no way that they haven't been working on AV1 because for years, they've been working away at this standard, working on what the hardware and code and decode implementations will look like, bringing it to maturity. This whole process takes like, just with how big the industry is

and how slow moving it is now. It can take 10 years. I mean, how long have we been trying to move on from H.264? Because HEVC was one attempt, but the licensing fees. And I know there's been other attempts as well. A huge part of the problem has ended up being licensing multiple times. Whereas AV1 is a game changer because my understanding is it costs nothing to implement. It still doesn't have the same licensing setup as H.264.

I don't know all the intricate details of the differences between them, but I know it's not like identical. Hold on, there might be a fee. Let me just have a look here. Royalty-free standards are not free of cost. And this is blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so what i do

know is that it's much more appealing and therefore is seeing much broader adoption than hevc i know when i was when i was hanging out down at nasa which is one of the coolest things to say ever i was talking to one of their tech people about uh video compression encoding transferring data all the different complications they have around that, going around the dark side of the moon, going to Mars, the data complications of those different situations.

And I asked, what about AV1? They currently use H.264 and they would love to use AV1, but they're concerned about licensing issues. Oh, interesting. Even at that level, concerned about licensing issues. Kind of sucks. It would help them a lot because the amount of stuff that they have to send back

and forth and the fixed pipe that they have is, is a very difficult equation for them. So AV1 apparently has royalty free licensing, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there is no cost. So yeah, we'll um so yeah we'll have to we'll have to get you guys an update on that because i'm actually kind of interested uh squid hominid over on floatplane chat is saying it'll be a game changer for twitch once they add av1 because right now you're hard capped at six megabit per second and you aren't guaranteed transcoding so unless you're a prominent streamer, basically the platform has kind of self-selected itself to be limited to, you know, two and a half to three megabits per second streams. Unless you're a big deal on the platform already, which hurts discoverability of small creators.

Because why are you going to tune in and watch someone playing this game unless they have an absolutely electric personality? and watch someone playing this game unless they have an absolutely electric personality. Why are you going to tune in and watch someone play this game at low craptastic quality when you can tune into one of the big streamers and it can look freaking awesome and probably sound better too?

I mean, the kinds of compromises you have to make to stream at two and a half, three megabit per second are pretty yucky. AV1 will be able to do 1080p at that and still look pretty decent. I'm excited. This is freaking awesome. Yeah.

So. When's float playing going to support it? We'll support it eventually. It's not in the cards right now. We have some pretty monster uh band with caps on our live streaming last time i checked um so yeah i don't know we're not working on it all right we will work on it eventually uh we are not working on it right now we got other stuff to do now it's the point in the show there is there is i i'm gonna hijack this no you want to throw me out of the bus i'm gonna i'm gonna crawl out

of this bus there have been there's no buses there has been a ton of updates on the site might not work right now uh because one of the updates that we pushed yesterday uh apparently borked something with live streaming um but we are working on there's been a yeah it was it was it was working a second we know exactly what's wrong and we'll have it fixed very soon can we show some cool stuff though i mean if it works yeah so there's there's sub channels so if you expand the sidebar you can collapse the sidebar that's one thing but there's sub channels now so we click the little arrow down the bottom left hand corner which the users can't see because hidden behind us oh you gotta widen the screen there we go so you can see all the different

sub channels with their different names and stuff if you click on there you get to see linus's meme face and this is all the floatplane exclusives a bunch of people asked for this so we have now added it you can see the red bar at the bottom of the screen we tried to go with like a floatplane light blue but it just didn't work you can like never see it so wait wait wait wait we have resume now yeah so this will pick up where i left off if i mean if it plays oh are we wow i don't think we've been this broken like in a long time yeah but i mean like i said we know we know what's wrong um so what what what set it off was us going live? You know what's really funny Luke?

Do you remember when I popped into the floatplane aquarium? I think yesterday and you guys were telling me yeah, we pushed everything that we talked about in our meeting yesterday It's all live and I was like that seems like a really weird thing to do on a Thursday afternoon heading into the weekend. And you guys were like... Do you remember that? Yeah. Do you remember that? When's a good day to push, you know? Monday?

Nah. Nah. Don't you guys normally push Friday just before WAN show? I mean, we don't talk about that. Okay. Anywho, Resume Works. By the way, we've got some great exclusives on there now. We've got the extras from the NCI Accessor PC build.

We've got their first time series with Sarah now. So where people kind of talk about their early days in the company and react to their first time on camera. Those are pretty cool. I've watched a few of those. Yeah, we've got, I think a few is all there is. There's Nick, Colton, and Sarah so far. They're very new. Yeah, it's a really good idea for a series.

We've also got a little bit of early access going on right now. I took my PC to Geek Squad. Do you know about this? It looks like we've already fixed it for the main site, and the beta site will figure itself out soon. So, yeah, they're on it. They'll fix it. It's a small bug.

All right, cool. So there's another really cool thing, though. If I go into my settings, I can change my notifications. For each individual sub-channel. Per channel now. Yeah. So there's also the include email notifications. That's going to change.

We're going to turn email into more of like a digest system where you get an email. This is going to be user selectable. You get an email either once a day or once a week with like all of the notifications that would have happened within that time window the reason why we want to switch to that is just because uh some people might be getting a lot of notifications and getting a ton of email is actually like super annoying so 100% yeah we're doing that but yeah so if you don't like if you're like no i like mac address and tech news i don't want anything else you can turn off everything else Just leave those on do whatever you want. No problem. And then how does this work? I can change my subscription tier now, right? So if you click on the channel again, I believe you can do it from here But you have granted subscriptions, so it's not gonna show but if you if you click on the channel again, yeah, mm-hmm

if it works click manage subscription over there and Then you can click subscribe on the tiers that you don't have oh okay and then okay yeah it's not going to show for me because you have granted subscriptions because this is my channel yeah yeah anyway oh that also makes sense yeah uh but yeah you can you can subscribe you can change your your subscription through there so yeah there's been we pushed the the list of things that we pushed this last week is an entire page long. Yeah, making up for lost time.

Yeah, a little bit. So I mean, yeah, maybe we- Flew a little close to the sun. Broke a little thing in there. We didn't test live streaming, I guess, which was a bit of a miss, but it is okay. They are on it It's gonna be fixed soon

And honestly the beta site feels amazing right now if you want to use it go to the main one because the base is broken But the beta fight site feels so good that beta fight that sounds like a great speaking of live streams I would watch that's what the fish do no not the fish. I'm talking like the fish i'm talking like oh my god um the the beta site feels great uh one of our small issues that we had that we kind of resolved last night jumped in a call with dank pods because he uses safari for everything and as far as i can tell he is the only user on the platform that uses safari so he's very useful for bug testing Safari. Great. So we jumped on a call with him just to like make sure everything was all good.

And he also didn't live stream. So it was. Got it. But yeah, we're going to spend like the next week or so kind of bug testing these types of things and fixing stuff and then probably hopefully be ready to send it after that. But yeah. Fantastic. Now it's the point in the show where we explain about merch messages. If you guys want to interact with the show, don't send a super chat.

Don't send a Twitch bit or butt or whatever. Just send a merch message that way instead of just throwing money into the ether you can you know have uh have your message pop up in the bottom down here or maybe dan will curate it for us to talk about later on the show when show after dark or you know maybe it'll just get not shown at all because you put an inappropriate word in it and he had to block it. That is possible. He had to block you.

I mean, that definitely does happen. Yep. So the way to send a merch message is you just go to lttstore.com. You check out any of the great products over there, including some of our new arrivals. And in the checkout, you will have the option to send a merch message. What do you want to see first today? Do you want to see the new t-shirt designs that are actually very exciting and cool

and we can finally launch because our printer is back up and running? Or do you want to see the new mouse pad called the CyberStats desk pad? CyberStats? CyberStats. I was going to say t-shirt because I always love the t-shirts,

but CyberStats sounds super cool, but cyber stats sound super cool. So let's check that out. All right. Let's save the most exciting for Luke for last. Oh, what? Okay. Why do I even ask him anything when I'm just going to do the opposite?

Because otherwise I wouldn't know what he doesn't want. Oh my God. So we've got three new designs. I'm just going to head to the store right now because I don't know what creative, fun names we have for them. Here they are. Ah, yes. We have a fan t-shirt. Our hardware-inspired series is back.

So it's kind of a fan, but also there's kind of a planetary thing going on. And these are all printed on our blanks, which are flipping awesome. We've also got a new CPU design. Okay. Well, that's pretty sick. How have I? You know what? I probably have seen this.

I think I just forget because we probably looked at it first along. Oh, no. This is sensor Oh, that's right. That's right right right right this is inspired by like a camera sensor Yeah, this is the light kind of coming in and hitting it yep. Yep. Yep, man This was designed back when they were still upstairs. They didn't even have their own office yet, and then we've also got the mountain t-shirt yet and then we've also got the mountain t-shirt that's cool yeah yeah i'm not saying there wasn't any death star inspiration i actually just don't know now let's talk about the cyber stats desk pad it's only available in one size so it's not quite the same as all of our uh well i shouldn't say all of our as some of our other ones that are available in a wide variety of sizes but it's pretty cute it is chock full

of interesting stats about the ltt channel so here if you want to take a side i can point out some of the uh some of the things uh this right here, I believe, is our... Oh, crap. Sarah told me all of this. Oh, no. Now I forget. Oh, no, it's not labeled. Oh, crap.

Well, good luck me. I guess I'm going to get everything wrong. First up, I think this is where people tune in from by geography. And I want to say this is the U.S. And then this is probably like Canada, Great Britain. So this is like all the other countries. Yes, yes, location. There's a little location thing here.

This is, I believe, The waveform of the LTT Intro song Oh Luke dang it Luke Okay we've got the WAN show logo LTT logo we've got All the items from the

Classic intro We've got oh no What's the chart what is that Crap why didn't we put this on the product page? I have no idea I think this it don't know. I don't know this QR code though super cool You go to the latest or yeah, Luke Luke just tried it. It goes to the latest video that we uploaded to LTT I made that it was pretty cool. Oh, did they? Okay, that's very, very, very sweet.

And unfortunately, I forget everything else. We should put it on the product page. Yeah, we should put that on the product page. We'll do that. Yeah, you guys will get the cool backstory for it. Anyway, Sarah designed that and it's super cute. That's sweet. All right.

Why don't we go ahead and start our next... Oh, right. We're supposed to do a couple of merch messages. Dan, you want to hit us with a couple? Sure. First one here is from Dave. Hi, DLL. Big fan of your show, the channels, and Floatplane.

With the advent of the ROG Ally, what other big tech companies do you think are going to throw their hat in the ring of handheld gaming PCs? Well, the second Asus does anything, Gigabyte and MSI will do it. So that will certainly happen. Man, other than that, I would be surprised if Delalianware didn't have a product like this. I mean, they showed one off ages ago.

For them, it wouldn't even be coming out of nowhere have you called them that before yeah delalien wear yeah i don't think i've heard that was great i don't think i came up with it oh really yeah i think that's a thing first time for me as well oh my god and where i like that a lot i don't know why oh man okay yeah i i this honestly for a while i've been expecting it from delalienware um but i think they might be kind of late but it'll probably be like solid but late yeah because when when did they show that thing off alienware turned to gaming yeah here's a here's a video from the verge from over three years ago, CES 2020,

where they did like a Nintendo Switch sort of form factor gaming PC. And then Alienware concept Nix. They apparently did it again at CES 2022. No, what is this? No, no, that's something else entirely. So no, yeah, it's that 2022 it was the ufo concept so if dell if dell alienware did it then that wouldn't surprise me at all and then if they do it you know i think other tier ones like i i would be very surprised if the acers

and lenovo legions of the world didn't come in and try and compete in the space because the thing is i'm actually surprised it's taken this long if you kind of get what i mean because if these companies can engineer a laptop yeah what's the difference it's a lot of like stuff to jam in there it is but it also isn't have you opened up a chromebook recently yeah but that's a chromebook it's not like uh this is a chromebook the whole thing's integrated the cpu the gpu but it's more powerful it's an soc well powerful from what standpoint right because we're talking we're talking like 30 watts. Oh, wow. Jeez.

Yeah, it's nothing. So you have, as long as you sort of fundamentally understand cooling. No, but I guess what I'm trying to say is we're talking about timeline, like how did it happen this late? But like technological advancement. Sure.

I mean, that's fair enough. But I just mean, why are they getting blindsided by the ally? Why weren't they just working on this? The ally is maybe a little bit surprising to me. The Steam Deck is not, because as we've talked about before, it's heavily subsidized by Steam game sales. So you can kind of make it in an expensive way.

It's like how they used to lose money selling consoles. Apparently they still are. Really? Yeah, I doubt the ps5 is losing money but i i'd be surprised if they're making money on xbox series s what would be the point in losing money on a ps5 um sell more games i mean same as same as it always was when they were sold out at stores for three years or something like i don't know whatever um but yeah i that i don't know i i'm surprised at the i feel like i'm almost the opposite i'm not surprised that the other ones are so late i'm surprised the ally is so early really oh because i didn't expect another competitor to steam deck that is as good as the ally seems to be this fast.

That was very surprising to me. Well, the Steam Deck was already a generation behind for CPU tech, and RDNA3 was already on the horizon for desktop GPUs. So we knew that architecturally, AMD had already laid the groundwork. No, I get that it's possible. I'm just surprised that they actually reacted that quickly, I guess. Because this is like a whole new product segment, all this kind of stuff. Yeah, but it's not that fast. Like, that's the thing I guess I'm kind of trying to say is

How long ago did the Steam Deck launch? Is this further back than I thought? A year or more? Yeah, because about a year, I think, was when they started showing it. One year? One year to create an entirely new product? Well, that's the thing. With manufacturing and everything like dell alienware asus has had their eye on this for quite a while they've been working on prototypes

on the like in the back room right a little over a year older yeah and and the thing is they're used to working on that product development cycle that's the thing okay that's the part of the puzzle maybe you're missing here is because intel launches a new generation of cpus every year so they're iterating start to finish on a product in a year every time already yeah yeah and they're doing they're doing different manufacturing because they're not yeah yeah that's fair enough and so anytime they put a new bring a new chassis to market as heck but these companies i guess are used to dealing with that time frame. That's literally their entire job. That makes sense.

To get some pre-production broken-ass silicon from Intel and AMD or whoever else, kind of go, okay, yeah, as long as the final product is somewhat within these thermal and power specifications, we're going to start designing around this. They do up all the tooling they get the final they get the final silicon they build these a handful of these things to show at trade shows and then you know two months later they're rolling off the mass production lines and they're shipping to customers that's what they do so it's kind of mind-blowing to me that msi doesn't have a companion and Gigabyte doesn't have a they would call supporter you know our

Support support class yeah, you know whatever right? I don't know and maybe they do Maybe they just don't want to tip their hand maybe they want to see how the Ally goes in typical sort of copycat fashion and You know if it goes really well, then they leapfrog that's the position i feel like dell is in i feel like dell moves slower on this kind of stuff they don't have to yeah no i know like they're the first with that they were the first with an oled gaming monitor first mover dell alienware yeah but the like product segment was more stable they were actually first with an o OLED business monitor as well.

Way back in the day. That was a disaster. That product launch. Okay. Well, that didn't work out. Yeah. I ordered one cause I,

they wouldn't send me a review sample and I was sure I knew why. Cause it wouldn't get burn in. Cause it was a very early OLED. And so I bought one. I was like, okay, I'll order your stupid $1,200 monitor or whatever, even though I really don't want one.

Um, and it got broken in shipping. I'll order your stupid $1,200 monitor or whatever, even though I really don't want one. And it got broken in shipping. And in the time between me ordering it and trying to RMA it, they discontinued it and wouldn't send me another one. So I think what happened is they probably just realized every single one of these things they sold was going to come back and just scrapped them. That's kind of brutal. Yeah, that's what I suspect happened. I've never confirmed that but I'm pretty Pretty sis pretty sus. It's pretty sus that whole thing how that went down But but no squid hominid and float plane shot said going with the names companion and supporter here is even funnier if you remember

That it was almost called the steam pal That's pretty good what I didn't know that actually oh my gosh I'm I'm still pretty surprised they went with steam deck with stream deck already existing yeah i think i feel like if anything i accidentally call this steam deck yeah more than i accidentally call a steam deck a stream deck though yeah so valve one yeah oh they like immediately won it's just kind of it's surprising because they're so close like companies usually don't like touching that much you know all right hit us again sure thing um i heart today's video about gs i started a local repair shop with inspiration from lmg one thing that surprises me was the amount of audio gear that I see.

Are there any markets that you reach that you didn't expect? Oh, you know what? Not anymore. It definitely used to. But these days, if anything, I'm the one telling potential partners that we reach an audience

that you probably don't expect. I remember back when we first got in touch with AMD's enterprise and server partners that we reach an audience that you probably don't expect. I remember back when we first got in touch with AMDs like enterprise and server CPU folks, so like Epic, uh, they were very hesitant to work with us, assuming that everyone that watches LTT and the rest of the channel. Yeah. There's like gamer gamer kids or whatever, but I mean, I, I have, I have the analytics, right? I have the demographics numbers.

I know that's not true. So I basically went, okay, so you won't send us a CPU. Fine, I'll just go buy a CPU. What do I care? So actually, I don't even think we ended up buying one. I think Wendell lent us one or something. We got our hands on one somehow. It doesn't matter.

The point is we're pretty well connected. In worst case scenario, we open up the purse strings, we buy it, right? And so we made a video that was just like an episode of holy where we we checked out i think it was a 32 core like the first epic that we covered it was either 32 or 64 it doesn't matter the point is that it absolutely blew up definitely registered for them because ever since then they're pretty down to work with us because i feel like for um and and it's nothing personal because it's a mistake that anyone could make if your nose is like this close to the

product right you know the strength of it you know how cool epic is and how disruptive it is from a price to performance to power consumption standpoint, you know all the advantages, and everyone you talk to, literally everyone in your life, so your hardware partners, your software partners, your current customers, gets it. So you kind of go, well, everyone must get it then. But the reality is that a lot of people

work in that industry,, you know what, maybe just aren't actually that excited to learn about CPUs. Maybe what they actually are excited about and care about in their spare time is wacky cooling experiments that we do or, you know, what phone should they buy or uh how does not to not to keep bringing them up yeah one of the things that the nasa guys said was that they get inspiration from watching you just do random stuff seriously and it inspires them to push the envelope in certain ways okay i take it back i do i am surprised then but like i i was a little bit too but there was multiple of them saying it yeah and and they might not know, they might not do the exact same thing. Oh, I should certainly hope not. But it inspires them to think in a certain direction or potentially test certain things out and see how well an implementation or a version of something that you did, or maybe even the same thing, might work in their environment.

That's hilarious. It's actually like really cool so back to the data center thing though people are tuning in because they just are excited about technology or or they're excited about some kind of technology and oh holy crap the number of times i've seen this comment it's so cool to see you guys talking about the thing that i do all the time i never expected you guys to cover this um this is so cool and i've even seen this too. Now I can take this to my like purchasing manager and go, hey, we should really look at this because it's got coverage on this huge tech channel. And you'll often break it down into something

that that purchasing manager might understand. And not just the purchasing manager, their manager. Yeah. Like there's, I forget how the saying goes, but it's like, what is it? No one ever got fired for using IBM or something like that. No one ever got fired for buying something. And it's like what is it no one ever got fired for using ibm or something like that no one ever got fired for buying something and it's like one of those really boring but like predictable companies i'm sure people are going to be going to be hitting us in the in the chat letting us

know like what the expression is but it's like that right and so i think what amd figured out is that even among tech savvy people, people who are passionate and care, there's influences on them that might not be passionate, might not care, or might just, you know, want to cover their butts, right? So you know what? I've never gotten reprimanded for buying Intel. So I'm just going to keep buying Intel. And all of a sudden, whoa, epic. Hold on a second. What's this? Apparently, yeah, it was IBM. Apparently, Cisco has used like a similar kind of marketing as well. Yeah, exactly, right?

And so that's one of the things that's really fun and really cool about covering things that we don't normally cover. Do we get every single thing right? Do we hit all the, do we manage to communicate all the nuance around the product and its uses? Do we have a well-built-out benchmark suite, say, for example, for enterprise machine learning? The reality of it is no, because so many of these organizations are using completely custom software anyway. Before they go and buy 10,000 of them, they're going to go and they're going to do their own validation anyway. You know, for us, it's just about, hey, this is really cool.

We're really excited about it and sharing that passion, sharing that energy. And so, yeah, I'm no longer, I shouldn't say I'm no longer surprised by the kinds of people that watch us just because they want to share that passion and share that energy and, and look for inspiration. Um, but I am surprised. It surprised me. Yeah. I mean, but it's like,

it's very cool. And like, you gotta understand it to a certain degree. Like it sort of makes sense. Yeah. I mean, if you're, if you're, um,

if you design cars, you know, does that mean you just like, don't watch Top Gear? Yeah. Because they're doing silly things that don't make any sense? Yeah. No?

Yeah. And yeah, you probably know more about automotive engineering than any of those guys. Yeah. But you don't get to do that on your work time. Yeah, you're not allowed to do that. You know what's funny? Is that's actually kind of the story behind how we ended up with that 5 000 watt chiller was uh buddy from spacex um oh man i wish i could shout out his name

now he came up and showed me this like cool little led backlit 3d printed sign thing that he does anyway i don't know maybe you guys i think we shouted him out in the video where he actually showed off the chiller but but buddy from SpaceX is like yeah We ripped this thing out Thinking that it was broken we put the new one and it turns out it wasn't broken at all it was actually like a kinked hose somewhere else in the line and It would cost more to put it back in now so I got to take it home, and I was like What am I gonna do with this you know it'd be fun for me

is watching you guys do something stupid with it yeah like that's sweet so since we got it we've we've put it on like a couple different CPUs we we BIOS modded a 4090 to accept up to a thousand watts, like total board power. And then we chilled that thing with it. We're going to use it for all kinds of wild things. So I guess I kind of get it. Yeah. But I'm surprised literal rocket scientists

are looking to us for inspiration. These guys, the two guys I was talking to about that in particular were the people that design the mission control centers. Oh, cool. Okay. the two guys that i was talking to about that in particular were the people that design uh the the mission control centers oh cool okay so including the like dashboards and stuff that people use and like the the like quick call control panel thing and like the all that type of stuff so it's like yeah that's flipping awesome. Data pipelines for receiving video and the chart that shows where the ISS is going and all this other type of stuff.

Seems like an important chart. Yeah. Yeah. Where did it come from? Where did it go? Where did it come from? ISS. Joe?

Joe. Joe. All right. Two more topics. Two more topics. Two more topics. Let's do it. You want to pick one? Yeah, EA.

EA blames gamers using high-end hardware for Star Wars performance issues. EA, man, we used to dog on these guys all the time. And then I feel like they were, you know. They learned to keep their mouths shut and let Activision Blizzard be worse. Yes. And let Ubisoft be worse. And then they got annoyed. You know, Blizzard, Bethesda, they're taking too much of the spotlight.

We got to do something really stupid. And now they're back. Welcome back, EA. Let's go, EA. EA has released a patch for Star Wars Jedi Survivor, which has been plagued with performance issues, including wildly inconsistent FPS, massive VRAM usage, broken cutscenes, and frequent crashes. Before the patch, EA released an apology of sorts where it blamed the issue on PC players using Windows 10 on high

end hardware. The official statement, I'm going to skip the first paragraph, go right into the second one. No, I'm not. I'm going to read the first paragraph go right into the second one no i'm not i'm going to read the whole thing from the start we are aware that star wars jedi survivor isn't performing to our standards for sure for our percentage of peace for a percentage great that's very helpful so first you hedge your apology you're not even a full line in yet come on a percentage of pc players in particular those with high-end machines or certain specific configurations. For example, players using cutting-edge, multi-threaded chipsets designed for Windows 11 were encountering problems on Windows 10. Or high-end GPUs coupled with lower-performing CPUs also saw unexpected frame loss.

Now, hold on a second. I have to stop you right here. It's my fault if I have a cutting-edge, high-end CPU, but it's also my fault if I don't have a good enough CPU. Yes. Carry on. You're doing it wrong. Whatever way you're doing it, you're doing it wrong.

They end it with, rest assured, we are working to address these cases quickly. To be fair, to be fair, they're not blaming the people. They're just saying this is where the problems are occurring and we are fixing it. Okay, but does it perform great on low-end hardware? I think it might perform more consistently. I think the problem right now is that you're getting crazy spikes. Right, so the issue then is that they just didn't validate ultra settings. Oh, yeah.

I think so. Because why would anyone do that? ultra settings oh yeah i think so because why would anyone do that and and a very good variety of hardware i think is a big part of the problem you know what's really sad is the probable result here is we're just not gonna get high-end sliders they're probably gonna look at this and go you know what it would have been so much easier for us to just cap it out at whatever the current-gen consoles are capable of. Is it just high-quality settings that this is a problem for? That I don't know.

I don't think so. I think it's everything. But they're specifically saying the issue is high-end hardware. Yeah, but they're not saying when put on a high-end setting. It's just high-end hardware at all. Why would anyone run it on low, though? Yeah, but you can't say medium is a high-end hardware at all wouldn't any why would anyone run it on low though yeah but you can't say like medium is a high-end setting that's fair and medium is a pretty common thing for people to run stuff on no it's all settings yeah people are saying it's all settings okay and apparently there's a there's a new patch which is already helping it i think people were

just mad because of the wording of this, which it's not worded great. The isn't performing to our standards for a percentage of PC players is not a fantastic way to say that. No, that's fine. That's like when I ask one of my daughters to apologize to the other. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Man. apologize to the other sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly man um so hardware unboxed disputed ea's

conclusion finding that the game ran better not worse on windows 10 and that both 10 and 11 showed poor cpu usage console gamers were quick to point out that they too were encountering game breaking bugs and serious frame rate issues. This EA blamed on an issue with HDR that was under investigation. At time of writing, the game's Steam rating is mixed at 56% positive. Okay. Runs like my butt after Taco Bell. I actually take issue with that.

Your butt probably runs pretty well after Taco Bell. Well, maybe not well, but very fast. It's smooth. Low latency. Oh, boy. Cool. Okay, moving on. We need another topic.

Let's get out of here. Yeah. Pixel Fold? Pixel Fold announced officially after, you know, it was leaked by absolutely everyone. Including video hands-on. Yeah, awesome. Yeah. Why is it that Google can't keep these things under control? I don't get it. I feel like it's intentional at this point.

It's literally been every Pixel launch since, like, Pixel became a thing. You think so? I think so. Well, I don't know about the uh intentional thing but there's no way they care that much or else they'd be able to get some amount of wraps on you know what i accidentally pulled mine out on wan show like pixel two pixel something and remember like somebody just left some early pixel device at a bar well no they were mad and i think you're thinking of an iphone actually for that yeah that was that

was pretty that was pretty early on and apple was mad and i think eventually did recover it and that's all that like was a whole thing but for the pixel i i did pull one out on wanshow once by accident and they were definitely mad so maybe it's shifted since then. Maybe. I don't know. They just suck at this. It's hard for me to say. But somehow Apple manages to do a much, much better job of it.

Yeah. Like, I mean. Even Samsung does a better job of it. Like, usually their lease. Basically every other phone maker. Well, I mean. It feels like Pixel has the most, like you were just talking about, there's video hands-on. does a better job of it like usually their leaks basically every other phone maker well i mean it feels like pixel has the most like you were just talking about there's video hands-on pixel has the most like brutal leaks and that happens with samsung devices as well

but i also don't think it's fair to compare against other mobile device makers either because the reality of it is for the vast majority of the rest of them no one cares and that's why nobody puts the kind of effort like sticks their neck out to leak this thing because why um and it's not like you can't find leaks it's just the the degree to which pixel devices get leaked i'm sure as xiaomi me something it's probably leaked at some point uh but it doesn't gain the same kind of momentum so maybe that's part of it too is that there's no there's no news cycle around some you know red magic gaming phone yeah no one cares that's fair enough well google has announced the upcoming pixel fold nearly all the details of the phone had already leaked weeks ago, so very little of the announcement was a surprise. According to leaked internal documents, the Fold is expected to have a 5.8

inch outer display that folds out into a 7.6 inch tablet display and the most durable hinge on a foldable. There were no particulars attached to this claim of durability, such as how many thousands of times the phone can be folded before becoming damaged google has not mentioned an exact price or release date but the fold is expected to cost over 1700 according to the same leaked documents discussion question how durable does a foldable phone need to be to make it worth it uh it it can't will the pixel fold be significantly better than the samsung foldable so i would like to talk about that yeah i'm hopeful if only because i like foldable phones i well i don't i shouldn't say i like foldable phones would you buy one i like okay let's get to that later okay i like being able to have a big big spreadsheet in my pocket i like this this helps my life hopefully that's

not important uh no it's not it's uh it's the data from how much cooling do you need okay uh so that video went up uh yesterday this is a lot of data points. Hey, you guys like that? Are you data nerds? I do like the data points. Yeah. It just makes a really big difference for me. I want to see the screen tech continue to evolve, because right now it seems like you get a year of trouble-free operation out of it,

and after that it develops microcracks, at least mine has. But for me, the bigger issue isn't even that because i'll keep using this with micro cracks down this down the middle like whatever for me the bigger issue is software and the one most annoying software vendor that has made this experience noticeably worse for me over the almost three years now, I think, I've been daily driving a foldable phone, is Google. I still, still don't have support for stories.

And in fact, this is wild, right? It's inconsistent. So right now, I have only three options. Which ones are missing? I have upload a video, I have go live, now I have only three options. Which ones are missing? I have upload a video I have go live and I've created a post. I can't even upload a short right now. I don't think hold on Do I have another I don't have another phone on me right now? Oh, oh, oh, hold on. Hold on. That might be in the wrong profile might be in the wrong profile for that. So let's do

Ugh Okay. Yeah. No. No, i have no shorts um that sucks i'm wearing shorts i can create a post but hold on a second get wrecked or wait how do i just go to the channel oh for crying out loud just go to the chat stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop okay community okay the community posts at least work now. So that's good. That was broken for a very long time. But I still can't upload stories, can't upload shorts. I have escalated this and I know they got it because I've escalated it through their creator liaison.

I've escalated it through the top creator manager that I have. I've escalated it in the top creator manager that i have i've escalated it in person at like the vp level okay to youtube i have made videos about it um i have complained about it on wan show they know they know you know what problem is? That this version of the YouTube app is the tablet, or is derived from the tablet version of the YouTube app, which was behind on Android, not on iOS, where the iPad could do everything just fine. And it was behind the development of all the other apps.

And we're not talking days behind or weeks behind. We are talking years behind at this point. So, I don't know, Google. Should I trust this device? Should I trust you to give two flying craps about supporting your hardware properly when you're not supporting your ecosystem partners properly and you're just

putting the tablet version on and then not bothering to update the tablet version of YouTube this upcoming generation of phones is probably going to mark an upgrade for me considering all the problems I've been having with my phone I can't the extra screen for me, considering all the problems I've been having with my phone. The extra screen space, like the app problems, what I do on my phone, I would probably run into less of the app problems that you run into. And I would probably run into more beneficial things.

Being able to open that spreadsheet would be great. That type of stuff is gonna be more in line with what i'm doing um but it's a 1700 phone that is gonna show extreme wear after a year and chat chat you're not wrong a lot of them are saying look they don't care because there's so few of these things out there i know that's why you should almost never buy the top end crazy motherboard yeah you should always buy whatever the most popular one is because that's the one that's going to get BIOS development. That's the one where they're going to prioritize fixing issues, because if they don't fix issues, they're going to get 10,000 customer support tickets and it's going to bury their support department. If, you know, a hundred enthusiasts have a problem, you know, yeah, those are your, theoretically, your best customers who spend the most money with you and you'd think you would treat them well. But in practice, it's not pragmatic, right, to deal with them first. You deal with the big problem first.

So they're much more likely, not over the short term, over the long term. I'm talking five years later when resizable bar shows up as a feature. The most mainstream board is the one that's most likely to A, get a first party update, and B, potentially get a community update that hacks support in because so many people have them. But that's not an excuse. If your concern is that so few people need this device and need it to work properly, then why the f*** are you making one? That's the counter argument.

So fine, you don't care. Okay then, don't make it. This feels like we're going to run into the same problem. A really long time ago, you and I used to like echoing this whole, I don't remember what brand it was. I'm sure you do. But there was a case in power supply brand that made a case that didn't really fit its own power supply. Oh, it was probably Antec. I think so.

Yeah. I just don't 100% remember. But we used to meme on them all the time because it was like, how do you not try your own power supply in your own case? And this feels like the same kind of thing like i suspect they're going to launch and they're still going to have these problems and that's a different level of unacceptable yeah how did you not run your own software yeah on your own product like if you're going to release a folding phone your stuff should probably freaking work for it that's crazy i'm still hopeful i would like for it to be good and there's definitely some things that you know i wouldn't mind upgrade because this is uh this is a full three so this

is this is last gen um there's definitely some things that i wouldn't mind seeing improved i wouldn't mind a better camera so i'm definitely going to try and daily drive it but i want to see a really good software experience and if my problem was with i mean oh yeah here's another funny one if my problem was with third-party apps right obviously i i get it you know how do you incentivize a small app developer like Floatplane Inc. to make it so that the app works properly with my folding phone or whatever, right? How would they be able to do that if Google themselves can't do it? So I get that, right? But here, here's two Google apps that don't work properly.

I already showed you YouTube. Okay? Here's the studio. Oh, apps that don't work properly. I already showed you YouTube. Okay? Here's the studio. Oh, wait. No, hold on. I got to show you. No, no. This is better.

Oh, by the way, for people interested, the Flowplane beta site's fixed already. Okay. Always be fast. YouTube studio. This is the creator app for monitoring your channel and everything. So I'm just going to casually open it. Oh, wait. What is that?

What are these pillar boxes? Are you kidding me right now okay so then i try and do the same thing so this comes down to this comes down to app support so i do the same thing on floatplane and i open it up and it just works properly it fills the whole screen like come on google this is your own software running on your own operating system okay technically it's samsung touch whatever they call it now touch was new touch was but i'm pretty sure that you could make this work you've had three and a half years of retail availability which means you've had more like four plus years of this product being in development knowing this is happening and Apparently you care about folding devices because you're building your own one so you would think you would be trying to figure this out

That's it that's all my rage for this But I'm still it's all right. I dodged your question Yeah but I'm still excited. Oh, right. I dodged your question. Yeah. $1,700. Because it is very expensive, but you have been in the folding ecosystem for a long time now. So exiting would probably be a pretty significant pain point.

It's easier for me because I have not been using a folder. Pretty tough. Yeah. Not because I can't afford it, not because I don't see the value, but I am very cheap. And it's not a question of, yeah, it's not a question of, does it have a value to me? It really does. But does it have, value to me it really does but does it have because like honestly does it feel right i don't game on my phone no i could get by with like a

phone for a few hundred bucks realistically yeah it just needs a good battery life screen brightness so does it and you can get that for like 399 no problem problem. Like something really nice for $499, $599. Usually there's other drawbacks though I find. Yeah. So is it worth another thousand dollars? I feel like the way that some people spend money is really different from me though. Like I will drop, okay, here's something.

I was asked for approval for three thousand dollars for uh for like i don't know three-eighths of an inch thick concrete pad in the middle of the lab warehouse because they were concerned that if it wasn't level enough the spot where they put our rf isolation chamber that it could potentially like cause problems i was like okay because that's that's business right theoretically we're gonna create content we're gonna generate revenue but then if you ask me but there could that's the other thing with the fold is if you said you don't play games on it but if you work on it and if you're able to extract a thousand dollars worth of value due to work i do but my eyes are still okay i can i could use a candy bar if i really needed to yeah right like so so if you

so if you tell me okay now it's now it's for something personally um it's gonna cost you 50 bucks and it's a it's a bracket that holds up this thing. Ah, you're making myself. Like, yeah, I don't know. I could probably just get like a drywall anchor and a little L bracket and put a piece of 2x4 on it. It's fine. Right? I just have a completely different way of thinking about stuff that I use personally. about stuff that I use personally.

Like I didn't upgrade until we started doing videos about it because I was locked in my house for the COVID shutdown or whatever. I hadn't touched my computer for like several years. And you would think I would just upgrade my computer all the time because I just, you know, want a fast computer. And obviously there's fast computer hardware like falling out of the sky around here. You do like on your house but that's not necessarily fair because i feel like

the example you were giving earlier was for something for yourself that was in your house not content a lot of i like yes sometimes i do it the hard way just because i'm like this will be kind of fun yeah and that's the thing is i think some people will cynically go well he's doing it just for content and i'm like no no i'm doing it because it's fun and fun makes good content. So you missed a step. I could do it the easy way. And that is actually an important step. I could just hire someone to put a control force system in my house.

Absolutely. It's not a question of cost. It's a question of, well, what fun is that? Let's make a video about it. I can't make a video about some professional contractor coming in and... You can, but it's not going to be very interesting. Well, we've done it. We've done it. I mean, Brian the electrician, we brought him in to just... He wired up a stupid UPS.

Stupid. What? No, no, it wasn't... It adds to it when it's, like, ridiculous. I know I wasn't saying it's a bad choice. No, it was just a professional choice. It was just a good UPS. Yeah.

But, like... But it's, like, a really sick UPS. choice it was just a good ups yeah but like and it's like a really sick ups okay and then we did this okay okay but then we did the same thing i brought in brian the electrician to put a car charger in my garage and that was really the boringest siemens car charger that ever existed at that point in time i feel like he's a character on the channel though uh okay okay that's kind of fair that's kind of fair i'm just saying brian the electric i'm just saying we can bring in a contractor to basically do the work and i can make a video about it i can make that work look if i had a superpower i think it's that i can get a million views on a hard drive and i i've i've i it's not just that specifically but it's it's like i don't have

you know mr beast's just intuitive sense of how to make the most captivating crack cocaine in video form like addictive content imaginable i can't do. I don't have that kind of imagination. And I don't have the kind of slick approach that an MKBHD or a Mr. Who's the Boss might take to covering the latest smartphone in a way that is super digestible to a mainstream audience. But if there's anything that I can do better than any of them it's i can get a million views on a hard drive or some enterprise pieces software like something that the makers of it couldn't possibly imagine getting a hundred views on youtube let alone let alone a million and it was something that i uh i remember it just kind of slipped out of my mouth

when I was having a meeting with some hard drive manufacturer at like CES or something like that. And they were just like, yeah, I mean, I don't know. They basically were not too worried about the video because they were like, I don't know. They didn't really know who we were.

I don't know. It doesn't really matter. Is anyone going to watch this? I'm like, oh yeah. Like we are probably the only channel on earth that can get a million views on a hard drive and then i was like yeah yeah we probably are that's pretty cool and so that dang it that's what we can do that's what i do that's that's what we do heck yeah uh all right what are we talking about i think we just finished our second of two topics

and we're moving on to the next thing Dan's paying very close attention to this show sponsors and we have a fun one today oh hit me oh we have a really good one today you guys aren't going to want to miss this this is how we get you

this is how we make you listen to all of them because you won't know which one is really special thanks to Magic Spoon for sponsoring today's show looking for a more health conscious snack Yeah, this is how we make you listen to all of them because you won't know which one is really special. Thanks to Magic Spoon for sponsoring today's show. Looking for a more health-conscious snack to munch on while listening to the podcast? Let Magic Spoon satisfy your cravings. Their keto-friendly delicious cereals have 0 grams of sugar, 13 to 14 grams of protein,

and only 4 to 5 net grams of carbs per serving. And how do they do this? Magic? No, they use a blend of monk fruit and allulose, which sweetens like sugar without increasing blood sugar levels. Milk or no milk or water, Magic Spoon is great for any time you need a quick bite. Check them out at lmg.gg slash magic spoon and use code WAN for $5 off. Thanks to GOG for sponsoring today's show. GOG is a digital distribution platform that puts gamers first.

Find a variety of titles from today's top AAAs to old school classics. I recommend the old Fallout games. Their entire catalog is handpicked, optimized to run on modern machines, and DRM free, meaning you own the game. Looking for a deal? GOG consistently runs promotions on their games, from their deal of the day to their developer spotlights. Their customer first approach takes the risk out of your purchase.

If a game doesn't work as you expected, get a full refund within 30 days of your purchase. So check out GOG's vast collection of games at lmg.gg slash GOG. Thanks to headphones.com for sponsoring today's show. Audiophiles rejoice. Headphones.com has the gear to serenade your soul with serendipitous sound. They source only the world's best audio equipment by evaluating products based on performance, quality, and long-time user satisfaction. From well-known brands such as Sennheiser and Audio Technica to more enthusiast offerings from Final Audio and Hi-Fi Man, there's something here for anyone interested in taking their audio experience to the next level. Best of all, their 365-day

return policy means that if you're not satisfied with your purchase, you will be taken care of. So check them out at lmg.gg slash headphones.com. That's headphones.com, all spelled out. Now, we have a bonus

fourth sponsor today. There's one more. Okay, so what do I do, Dan do dan yeah what happens by the way uh guys you probably noticed that all of the sponsor reads were normal this week don't worry dennis hasn't been terminated yeah um he just wasn't around this week oh long story okay short story actually but yeah yeah that was the whole story yeah that's the whole story basically you're just gonna go through the read like it was a denn read, and then I'll explain some more stuff at the end, okay? Okay, cool.

Cool. I'm really excited. And you should be excited too, you special person who you know who you are. Yeah. Unless you don't. Oh. Thank you, Thorum, for sponsoring today's WAN show. Look at that.

Do you want something unique for your loved one or even just for yourself? Thorum turns dinosaur fossils, meteorites, whiskey barrels, and more into a ring. That's right, they make everything magical. Perhaps you and your partner enjoy cozy nights playing video games or going to conventions together or spending time with your two beloved cats or maybe you traveled to Norway

to see the Northern Lights together last Christmas. All these beautiful moments together deserve to be celebrated. And we want to help you bring back the magic of the Northern Lights. It's time for you to level up from max level boyfriend and finally get the husband upgrade. These specific examples and pictures might sound a little familiar to a certain viewer. Logan in Australia, whose girlfriend Brianna has a message. Logan, my love, my darling.

You are the light and love of my life. The last six and a half years have been absolutely amazing with you. And I look forward to exploring the future with you for the rest of my life. will you marry me rihanna asked us if we could help her propose to her boyfriend and of course we're happy to help uh we're going to be updating the proposal news during the show. Oh, no pressure. Wow. Thanks to Thorum for assisting them in this journey. Whether you need a wedding ring, an anniversary ring, or you just want a ring that looks awesome,

head to thorum.com and use code WAN for 20% off. I might not have said anything about that, and we could have just quietly updated it, it goes well I really hope it goes well Congratulations you too. Well, you'll all know if it does What I want to give a little additional shout out as well for for Hot Wheels There was a somewhat recent I think think, little expansion to Forza 5, which is a Hot Wheels expansion,

and it is super fun because they just stopped caring about it being like a realistic racing game and you're just going around like Hot Wheels loops and there's boost packs on the ground and like magnetic floor and all this crazy stuff. It's very fun. It's like actually very fun.

Sorry, I was like, I was stressed out and tuned out for a second. Sorry, what? What game? How do we know that we have official news? I don't know. I'm sure that Dan will figure it out. I will be informed.

Yeah. And I will let you know or I won't. Yeah. Okay, let's go with that. What's next? Are we doing merch stuff? No, no. What game are you talking about?

Forza Horizon 5. They have like a Hot wheels expansion thing and it's actually like super fun okay cool it's very fun um i enjoy it no offense to the force of people but i enjoy it more than the main game uh flip plane chat i can't read your username but did nerd forge decline going to ltx they couldn't make it they wanted to don't worry we haven't had a falling out or anything we're chill love those guys critters are But yeah, life's busy. Yes, we are still going to auction the amazing PC that I was going to say we co-built, but they did most of the really cool work

that they made for us. That's going to happen at LTX, and it's going to be for charity. It's going to be awesome. Apparently someone watching the show is literally playing the forza hot wheels expansion right now nice nice it's good okay it's time for a few merch messages dan hit me okay i went to a christmas soccer match where santa parachuted from the halftime show but

clipped the roof and plummeted shocking the children what's the biggest mishap in front of a crowd you've witnessed wow witnessed no part of that sounded real wow I mean yeah I'm never gonna beat that story yeah like what

so I don't know I don't feel like I've oh Yeah, I'm never going to beat that story. Yeah, like what? So. I don't know. I don't feel like I've. Oh. I know mine. I don't mind 100%. No question. Okay, go.

Jensen just going off on stage at. Tom Peterson. Yeah. That was incredibly awkward. And like the videos are bad i wasn't there i was there but i've heard that in person it was it was rough because like the camera didn't show the whole thing but you could see tap like when he went off stage and stuff. And like he handled it very professionally. In my opinion, Jensen super did not. But Tap did. But like it was just, it was actually more awkward

because their response to it was not matched. Right. Like if they both handled it super poorly, it would probably have been less awkward. And it would have been just a fight. Yeah. But instead it was just someone in a position of very uneven power just like clapping on someone on stage and it's just like man i that was that

was rough that was very rough biggest mishap in front of a crowd i'm just trying to think like honestly the ones that the ones that i do definitely hit me the hardest, but I haven't spent that much time in front of a crowd. Like I've definitely made some mistakes. I dropped that razor blade laptop when I was supposed to be unveiling it at the first LTX. That was not the best. Kind of sick. Very on brand. But yeah, at least, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't that bad.

Like I've never accidentally, you know, I'm just trying to think of anything that would be really, really bad. I mean, I've done lots of dumb stuff on stream. Does that count? I don't know. I mean, like, okay, like, I've thrown stuff into a crowd and, like, accidentally nailed people with stuff, and it's been pretty bad.

Like, that's bad, I I guess that's a mishap I'm not gonna stop doing it. I used to be a lot more fun when they allowed that they have hard bandit now You're not allowed throwing anything not even t-shirts. Really? Yes, that's stupid. No, that's for stuff at LTX. Yeah, heck. Yeah. Yeah, let's go Yeah, let's go Next line is liability tips. Mr. Linus. I occasionally occasionally hear south park references do you have a favorite character or episode how would you feel about your likeness being portrayed on the show oh favorite favorite episodes got tenderman must die 100 that's when that's when cartman went from just kind of like an awful little child to the complete sociopath that we know and love now

um you know if i had to pick a few handfuls i mean for me really the golden age is from about late season two slash season three to maybe i guess as soon as we start making it into anything with the coon anything with the kind of continuity from episode to episode with stupid integrity farms and all that kind of garbage um pretty much that so kind of like season three season eight season nine maybe ten kind of kind of in there um so you know cartman land is amazing anything anything where cartman is particularly evil and then gets particularly f***ed on is pretty much my favorite all right let's see next one here love the show boys linus as a fellow late 80s child and currently

in it tech how do you adjust seeing younger and younger people join your team uh tech especially seems like a young person's game yeah i mean for me, um, what choice do I have? Right. Like if we, if we want to, if we want to stay hip and with it, you know, and, uh, and, uh, I don't think either of those are currently trendy names. And down, you know, we want to stay busing. Yeah. I don't know if that's good or not. No cap. For real, for real.

Yeah, exactly. Fire. I can't expect myself to be cool. I never was. So the best that we can do is we can keep trying to attract talent, keep trying to evolve, keep bringing in fresh ideas. And that's where fresh ideas come from. Fresh ideas don't come from people who have been doing this for 30 years right so yeah i uh i i guess i i don't know it's a funny thing because at work i don't really think about

that i'm like you know twice jake's age or whatever it doesn't really matter what no it's not twice but but i'm a lot older than him um and i and it's it's the same like it's it's not twice, but I'm a lot older than him. And it's the same. It's not until the slang comes out that I notice someone's actually part of a completely different generation from me because tech is our common language, right? So when you've got that in common, it's easy. But if I was to go to a completely different environment, if I was to go to a club or something, I'd feel far more out of place because of the differences in my maybe music preferences or, yeah, sure, my manner of speaking. You know, does anyone still speak Valley Girl? Like, is this still acceptable?

You know, like, I don't know. It's fine. It's good. It's just part of the process. And in response to that second part of the South Park question, if that's a real offer, if you actually work on the show, I can't believe that's even a question of course next well i think that was three yeah why don't we why don't we slide another one in here how about that slide into my dms yeah do people still say that i don't know

probably i mean it's all it's all that's all it isn't anymore someone does no cap for real That's all it is anymore. Someone does. No cap for real. She? That was bad. Do a merge message. Hello, Dan and the support staff.

Linus, a game of would you rather. Would you rather allow Dan to remaster the Christmas album or allow Luke another shot at Pizza Warmer PC? Thanks for all you do. Dan, you got gotta stop sending your own merch messages. That's not how this works. I archive most of them. Stop talking about the Christmas album!

The Christmas album is not happening. Luke gets another shot at Pizza Warmer PC before you remaster the Christmas album. There's no question in my mind. Especially because Luke never had a first shot at the piece that the pizza warming PC because it wasn't supposed to be a Pizza warming PC it was supposed to be a pizza heat retention PC. He just completely misunderstood the concept Thank you for the excellent merch message. Oh, I'm crying.

Okay. Okay. What do we do next? I don't know anymore. Give us the card. We can't do anything if you don't give us the card. Do some more topics, please. Oh, jeez.

Oh, I don't want to talk about that. I hate you all. Why do you all troll me like this? You try to upset me, make me do something, say something I'm not supposed to say on stream. Google engineer warns public researchers are winning the AI race. A leaked document from a senior Google engineer, Luke Samau. Hopefully I said that right.

Sir now, I think, but close. S-E-R-N-A-U, yes. That's an annoying typeface uh warns that both google and open ai may soon lose the ai race to open source development grassroots engineers have been making huge strides in part due to the leak of meta's lama llm in part in massive section uh just saying probably a factor yeah according to the document, neither company has had the kind of secret sauce that will be enough to keep them ahead. I believe they described it as a moat. Neither company has a moat. Worse, while they've been focused on each other,

open source development has been quietly lapping them both, with many public researchers achieving more with a few hundred dollars and a few weeks than what large companies are struggling to do with millions over the course of months because those open groups are playing catch-up to be clear they're not lapping them is not a really fair way of saying it because they're they're up, but it's fine. It sounds cool. We're going to stick with it. Specifically cited was the issue with running AI models on phones. Open source models are faster, more customizable, more private, and pound for pound more capable. Luke, the previously quoted person, therefore urged that Google should work with and learn

from developers outside the company. Meanwhile, an open letter to the European Parliament, authored primarily by German research group Lion, has advocated against regulation of grassroots development and smaller AI research firms, in part to keep the EU competitive with the United States. Quoted, Rules that require a researcher or developer to monitor or control downstream use Quoted, in AI overseas. Like many AI forums, Lion has been criticized for not respecting the rights of artists whose work is included in their

open source database including threatening counter suits against artists who have requested their work be removed. Cool. Yeah, we've been talking about this on WAN Show for a while, but it's interesting seeing someone within Google talk about the same thing.

Well, you've got to make a bold prediction now. You've got to keep the streak alive. You don't get to just be... Nostradamus didn't get to just make three predictions, absolutely nail them, and then go, well, I'm retiring with a perfect record. You have to keep making predictions you want to know something funny you know how

you've talked about this a bunch and I think this is genuinely very true one of the reasons why line of sectives has been punchy for so long is because you get bored very quickly yeah I'm bored you're bored already I'm bored but but new stuff is happening the problem yeah is a lot of this stuff isn't

actually really releasing. Especially not really in the way that people talk about its capabilities. Like a lot of the stuff that OpenAI is doing, it's alphas. And they're only giving it to some people. So like the plugins thing. We talked about this weeks ago. Do you have it? No.

I don't have it. Right. So if I don't get to play with it why do I care the the co-pilot for office yeah looks like an insane disruptor yeah where is that where is it so I'm kind of Gmail I'm kind of in a Gmail where's's google's well hold on here's what i really want to know call yvonne ho oh wow it managed to do it i'm impressed but yeah like i i'm not i don't know if i should necessarily say bored. I'm feeling like it's unnecessary to keep up with the news right now because we're,

I feel like just like OpenAI had like the fastest adoption of a million users of anything like ever. Right. I feel like there's, you know, that curve, I don't remember the exact name of all the stages, but you have the massive hype at the beginning of a new technology and then you have the massive drop of people realizing that it's like kind of junk right now because it's so new and then it jumps back up when you get to very productive stages and people actually start releasing things and it becomes very usable and then it trend lines forever basically and i don't feel like we're actually at the bottom of that first drop yet

but i feel like we're over the hump because we're at the point where everybody's heard about it everybody has seen at least one really really cool demo of it like hub curve is actually looking for is it i don't know it might be okay um but yeah everybody's heard of it like my even people that like are not into tech stuff has heard of it because it's been in mainstream news all that type of stuff you've given everybody the fear you've given everybody the hype you've given everybody all that kind of stuff now it's time to uh this is not exactly what I was describing. It's the shape of the curve though. Very much excite, very thing happen,

then less thing happen, then as it gets better, thing happen more. that's pretty close. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's explaining the same concept. It's just not the exact curve that I was talking about.

Sure. But yeah, it's time to deliver. It's time to we need stuff apparently q3 for uh for co-pilot cool so i'm excited for q3 right that's where i'm currently looking yeah i guess that kind of is similar to how we really stopped talking about rumors so much on land show way back in the day like we used to talk a lot about, oh, here's the rumored spec of the upcoming GeForce whatever. And then what we'd realize is that the following week

there'd be a new rumored spec, ever so slightly different or sometimes the same, but more sure this time. And then the following week, and then we just kind of felt like broken records. We're just talking about this over and over and over and over again and making noise that has absolutely no value outside of the very moment that we first talked about it why don't we just wait and then it's out and then we can create an evergreen piece of content that will always inform you about that product. I think that's a mistake

that I see a lot of starting out and even fairly experienced content creators making, where they make a video or write an article or whatever else it is, whatever their medium is, and they make something that is relevant today. And I think what they're missing is the algorithmic importance of someone watching your video or listening to your song or reading your article from a year ago or two years ago

and still getting a value out of it. Ah, okay. Okay, what's this called? This is the Gartner hype cycle. The hype cycle. So the bottom left-hand corner thing is technology trigger. So the thing kind of shows up. Peak of inflated expectations, trough of disillusionment, all this type of stuff.

So I feel like we're kind of just over the hump right now. And if you're saying that it's going to be Q3... We'll see. we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. And hopefully we can avoid it too big of a deal. But yeah, exactly what you're just describing. I'm feeling that way about it.

I don't think there's actually a lot to talk about. Even this literal topic, we have literally already talked about it. Right. So yeah, content. Back to what I was saying. Make content that is evergreen. And you will be amazed what that will do for you. You never know when, like, every once in a while, one of the views that I like to look at in our analytics dashboard

is what people have been watching most in the last 60 minutes. And what's really interesting about that view, that real-time view, is that a lot of the time it's obviously going to have your last couple of videos you released, but once in a while you'll have stuff show up. Okay, so one of the things that's most watched in the last 60 minutes is Adam's AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade. Okay, that really helps me keep an eye on what kinds of videos are going to pop off in the longer term and get a second wind and a third wind and a fourth wind and really, really take off. And you will never put yourself in a position to do that if you create content that is just about the rumor mill, just has absolutely no relevance. And I'm not saying there's no place for that.

We created a whole channel for it. It's called place for that. We created a whole channel for it. It's called TechLinked. We created a second channel for it. It's called GameLinked. Which, don't worry, we will launch. We will launch eventually. There's been some challenges internally getting it across the finish line. But we're going to get it there.

It's going to be awesome. It's going to be great. Riley and his team are doing an amazing job getting everything set up for it. But, okay, AI. I guess we'll just kind of play the waiting game. Yeah. Maybe we talk about something here. Someone in chat said, look at the auto GPT repo graph.

It's literally the graph you just showed. And it's like, yeah. Right. Yeah. There is cool stuff happening. Chat or the chat GPT code interpreter thing looks super sweet, but like almost none of us can even try it. So whatever, I don't know.

I'm off the, I'm, I'm still paying attention, but until we get more things shipped, products shipped, I think I'm, I think I'm kind of chilling for now. All right. Why don't we talk about... Oh, and sorry, one other thing, because people keep spamming this. I know a lot of the new AI stuff is open source stuff. Totally. And that's fantastic. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying they're moving slowly. I think they are moving super, super fast. I am also thinking that they aren't quite 100% there. And one of the reasons why they're moving really fast is like the leaks and whatnot that we've been seeing, the transparency on what data sets that these companies are using to feed their models, and a lot of other kind of stuff like that people breaking off from these big companies to start startups that are currently working in the open source space so they just sort of happen to know what's going on over there stuff like that is happening a lot right now which is fantastic it's very cool um

but it's the same thing um so it's it's not like the most exciting talk about a WAN. You know what else is happening a lot right now? What's that? AMD's new U class of chips. Oh. Okay. I know that on WAN show, it's not necessarily the best place to get your news about an upcoming CPU or GPU because we can't put up all the graphs and all that kind of stuff

that is really helpful for understanding just how good this product is. But you don't need that. What you need is hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype, Phoenix series processors. They're designed for thin and light laptops. So these are like 15 to 30 watt CPUs like the Framework Laptop 13. I'm so excited! Not just as an investor, I just want one in my laptop. They're based on Zen 4.

Okay, so latest cpu architecture with rdna3 based radeon 700m gpus and team red says these chips should be able to go head to head with apple's m2 processors with the flagship 7840u supposedly performing 75 percent better than the m2 and pass mark 10 you notice apple's whole apple silicon thing like started out like really strong and in typical apple mac fashion has kind of got oh good enough just deflated we'll just leave it where it is like remember when they launched the mac pro and they were like yeah we're back with upgradeability and it's going to be different this time. And they launched the Mac Pro and then never updated it again. Why do they just, why are they so apathetic toward their Mac users? It's kind of shocking.

Anywho, AMD also claims victory over Intel's competing 13th-gen chip, the Core i7-1360p, by 30% to 228% on various tests. If you look closely, and this is really cool, this chart is from Anandtech. Credit Anandtech for this chart. This is amazing if you look closely uh hold on okay i can't uh dan can you move uh us please yeah thank you one sec the ryzen 7 7840u bears a lot of resemblance to the ryzen z1 extreme they both have 8-core, 16 threads. Really, that's how you do it? You know what? It doesn't matter.

12 CUs in their iGPU, 16 megs of level 3 cache, and a maximum 30-watt TDP. How interesting. Oh, I did that just in time. Yeah, it's fine. Gosh. The Ryzen Z1 Extreme is going to be powering the ROG Ally when it launches next week. These chips are AMD's first to launch with Ryzen AI, which is powered by its XDNA AI architecture, courtesy of the company's acquisition of Xilinx last year. Ryzen AI will apparently power upcoming features in Windows 11, like the Studio Effects pack that can be only used with

dedicated AI hardware. It's possible people will be able to hack around it, but it will almost certainly result in additional power consumption, which on a mobile device would not be desirable. So just because you can work around it doesn't necessarily mean that you should. Speaking of Windows being optimized for certain chips, this is great. Windows 12 might end up optimized for certain chips this is great windows 12 might end up optimized for custom microsoft silicon arm-based socs if multiple new job listings for chip designers are any indication would you buy microsoft silicon well don't look too enthusiastic. I find with a lot of Microsoft hardware products,

there's a bunch of really cool stuff, and then there's some, like, glaring drawback problems. Yeah, and then there's not necessarily, like... It's not like Apple's perfect, you know? i think the fact that they rug pulled 3d touch which was the coolest feature ever um sucks you know yeah um but in general if you upgrade from an iphone to an iphone from a mac to a mac you can expect some degree of continuity. And that was definitely intentional. Whereas on the Windows side, and even within Microsoft's own Surface products, I don't feel like that same thing exists. They don't have the same level of commit. And whether that's an unwillingness to continue to invest in things that were not immediate Ws or whether that's just maybe not thinking ahead enough

as to like about the viability of a product. Microsoft has some like serious wins in the hardware space, but you know, soft's in the name. They've always felt like a software company. Like do they still have that AIO that you can like stick the surface dial to the screen or whatever? Oh, yeah. The Surface dial is apparently still a thing with 363 reviews on the Microsoft Store on Surface.

I can't even remember what some of their PCs were called. Surface Studio? Studio. People are saying Studio. Is that the one? Okay. Can you still buy a Surface Studio? I remember even when it launched, it had last-gen hardware in it.

Yeah. Had they updated this bloody thing? Okay, here. Let's have a look at it. Am I just ignorant? Nope. It's still like $9,000. I want just the screen. this is a laptop the screen

this is a laptop okay now hold on just a gosh darn minute computers uh surface studio two plus okay did i just miss something here is this is this current yep starting from six thousand canadian dollars where's my tech specs at uh okay that's still a 28 inch display which is like fine 11th gen processor no this has not been updated so this is just can i can i order this thing 11th gen processor 32 gigs of ram and a one terabyte ssd for six grand non-user serviceable. I've repaired one. They're brutal. This is just languishing.

And it was, you know, some parts of it were cutting edge. So Thunderbolt 4 is still... Hey, it's got Windows 11. Relevant. Is this real? I can actually order this outdated computer? Wow, I'm sure glad I customized this I can choose English keyboard or terrible keyboard

Is that it select a configuration I mean well yeah, what other one am I gonna select Microsoft? My options are that and that and then I can decide if I want any Microsoft 365 with that No, I don't want additional protection This is it I can get a wireless headset an ugly mouse or a different ugly mouse Wow Yeah, so that's the thing like where's your where's your commit and it's not like okay i mean we just criticized apple for releasing a literal forty thousand dollar computer that they then pretend start immediately start pretending doesn't exist anymore yeah right but this is regular for

microsoft it's like it's like it's like netflix right so you you kind of sit there and go oh yeah i love this paradigm where i have this zero gravity hinge or whatever and I can put my dial on my thing and I can do all this stuff. Will this continue to get any development? What's going on with the Surface Duo? AJ's all... I guess AJ uses the French-Canadian keyboard layout.

I'm sorry to hear that. You employ this man? AJ's great. He can have an exception. He can have his bad layout. Okay. What's going on with this thing? Microsoft has just started casually, low-key, not providing regular updates for it.

I saw an article that was, and I don't know how true the speculation about the reassignment of the team is, but... Someone's saying it's updated each year. Apparently not the processor. Oh, yeah. It's not fair to just say, like, yeah, we ship with a more up-to-date operating system. Yeah, that's not an update. What else is yeah 11th gen 11th gen it rtx 3060 like i don't know was it was it well hold on a second did the original one have a 2060 i think it has been updated because i did the video on the first one okay so like it's been a minute dude it's been

probably like seven years it must have received at least one update but it is not currently up to date I would say okay well maybe maybe I'm just being mean but yeah Surface Duo is another one that I'm just kind of looking at going yeah really i mean if you search for surface studio this is another thing too like i guess even if they are updating this thing does anyone care so we've got this one result and then it's just laptop oh wait no no no we've got an all-in-one PC. Okay, is anyone buying this thing? Again, like I said... Oh, wow. No reviews yet. Be the first. Whew!

That's a yikes. That's a big yikes. Okay. Cool. I think we have some news. Oh, we do? Dan, can you confirm? Oh, yeah.

Just give me a second here, guys. What? No. No time given. Jeez. Now everybody's expecting something. Something breaking? Some news.

I think we have breaking news. Okay. Oh. Oh, it's all going wrong. My phone's going off now? Oh, jeez. We have news. Oh. Oh, it's all going wrong. My phone's going off now? Oh, jeez. We have news. Oh! Oh, we have news. Oh, it's good news.

Oh, yeah, what did you think we had? I was trying to leave some suspense. Well, I don't know what the heck you were talking about! Would you like to see the news? Okay, yes, hit it, hit it, hit it, hit it. Okay. He said yes! I believe he said yes. Yeah, it was our pleasure.

Thank you very much. It's a lot of fun. We've had kind of... We've had some requests from people to, you know, do stuff before. Do stuff like that. I receive a shocking number of wedding invitations. No, really, though. They don't even give them to me

anymore because i'm just like yeah this is super weird i really just don't think i'm gonna i i actually okay i i have to confess i almost went once when i found out about the wedding invitation thing because apparently they just would never give them to me i was like oh that's hilarious we should do a channel super fun where we all show up. You wedding crash. Just the whole gang, the entire company. We have a response from them, too. Sorry, we have a response from who? From our new couple.

He said, yes, tell Linus and Luke I am so, so happy and really appreciate of their help appreciative of their help awesome um but anyway that would actually be very funny i was talked out of it because it would also be uh very disruptive i mean there's family there and the venue would have no idea that this is happening and like like i would just not the idea was that I would just not RSVP and then we would just show it would be really funny though anyway the point is don't invite me to your wedding because we're not doing that I was talked down yeah judge protects anonymity of eight Redditors. So the background here is a group of film studios were trying to prove that

internet service provider astound was turning a blind eye to piracy committed by its customers. They demanded that Reddit unmask the identity of certain users who commented on posts about piracy, including they wanted the IP address registration and logs from January 1st, 2016 to present. They wanted the name, email address, and other account registration information. Reddit provided some information on at least one user, but refused to unmask the rest, leading the studios to file a subpoena.

Reddit responded that this was a phishing expedition. Four of the users never mentioned Astound, two mentioned Astound but weren't talking about copyright infringement, and one user's comment was from 2014, outside the time frame of the lawsuit. In American law, anonymous communication has traditionally been protected as part of the right to free speech because it shields people expressing unpopular opinions from potential retribution the judge ruled that the studios had not demonstrated a compelling need to overrule the user's free speech rights so there you have it um you can

still talk about piracy on reddit including naming your isp i don't know how long that'll last but every once in a while something goes right. Speaking of which, BioFire is getting ready to release America's first commercial smart gun. Oh, what? They're a startup. They're launching a smart gun with facial recognition and fingerprint unlock that will fire only for registered users.

Okay, well, this is BS. Don't worry. We're getting to that. Okay. The gun will be available as soon as the fourth quarter of this year, making it potentially the first commercially available smart gun in the US. There are, however, smart guns available abroad just, can you relax? Available abroad that require

the user to wear a linked smart watch or similar device. So the schtick here is that it's using fingerprint and facial recognition. 60% of gun owners apparently say they would be interested in a smart gun, and the potential for the technology has been around for a long time. In 2000, both Colt and Smith & Wesson agreed to create government-sponsored smart guns, but they were boycotted by gun owners, and evidently that never happened. Now, there is some concern around these products that they may not fire when needed.

And during a demonstration earlier this week, Klopfer, okay, I guess that's the name, fired the gun, then another demonstrator picked it up, pulled the trigger, and nothing happened. When Klopfer took the gun again, it failed to fire twice, then fired correctly. A second prototype worked as expected. You have 20 seconds to comply. Okay, Luke, now you can talk about the smart gun. It's just, it's not true.

It's not the first. What do you mean? These have existed for America in America. I don't care you think America's gonna have a gun like Gun exists in world gun in America these have to be true at the same time Don't care it's just not true There's like there's videos of people defeating these from years ago the the first one I remember somebody just took a magnet they held the the pistol and they just took a magnet and they went buck and then it fired no matter what it just has a lot was just steel yeah it just immediately defeated it these have not only, but they have been terrible for years.

We are the first to release, and I can't believe the amount of coverage they got on this. I googled firearm requires fingerprint to fire, and it's everywhere, all from just this one. How BioFire got this coverage is wild, when no, they are not first to market. I can't believe people would lie on the internet it's wild I think the facial recognition thing like sure but where do you define smart like what yours is smart because it's fingerprint and facial recognition the previous ones weren't smart because they were just fingerprint What if someone requires like something else? What if someone requires like a 2f a code? I say it's smart when it has like chat GPT integration and Chat you have to talk it out of shooting you chat GPT

Has evolved to the point where it doesn't tell you to kill yourself So I want like a really, you know, top functioning, you know, large language model that, you know, will kind of advise me on the proper use of it. You know, maybe that's smart. That's not a smart gun. Bullets on the blockchain?

Oh no. Anyway, that was the whole reason that I wanted this topic in here so that I could chat GPT on a gun And I think it's time for us to move on to when show after hours, which is basically more of that Help we have a new banner for that. For better or for worse. Help. We have a new banner for that. I'm gonna click this button and let's see if it does anything. Hey! Now I get to get up. Hey, there we go. Cool.

Wow. Did that even change? The corner, the corner. Oh my god. It says after Dark Under. Okay. I'm sure glad I... Did you rip one? No, actually. Why does it smell like fart? Um... Did I- Did you rip one? No, actually. Why does it smell like fart? Did you crap yourself? No.

Because that's a possibility. I mean, you technically didn't ask me if I crapped myself. So that's not ruled out yet. Oh my goodness. That was wild. Okay, anyways. March messages. I'm going to start trying to, I've already been trying to respond to some of them through

text. I'm going to jump in and try to do more now. We'll fall into our formation. Yeah. If you guys want to deal with some potentials, I'll start yelling at you with curated. Okay. Here we go. Dear Linus, being very busy CEO of LMG and trying to eat healthy slash feed a family sounds very hard.

Have you ever thought of hiring a private chef? Sincerely, someone who makes food for money. The only reason that I haven't is that I don't want my kids to grow up with a chef. Yeah. I feel I don't necessarily know that we've talked about that, but I knew that answer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah don't necessarily know that we've talked about that, but I knew that answer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. And I respect that. I, well, the thing is like, okay, that I'm going to play devil's advocate against myself right now, because, um, what if by having a private chef, my kids were exposed to far more variety in their diet and healthier food.

You know, Yvonne and I would never be up at mid... An interesting way to do it, maybe, is if you had your kids cook with the private chef. If it was like a cooking tutor. Okay, cooking tutor, sure. But, I mean... Okay, sure. Maybe, look, I'll get to that in a second. But like, realistically, you know, Yvonne and I are like any other both parents work family. And sometimes, like one thing we're really good about is we always send our kids to school with lunch. So they never go to the cafeteria, even though that is technically an option. So they always bring food from home.

But occasionally that food ain't great. You know, we'll be up at midnight and we're kind of going, oh, holy crap, we don't have anything for lunches tomorrow. And we'll like just whip up some Annie's, you know, mac and cheese or whatever and throw it in a thermos. All right, kids, enjoy. I mean, they love it, obviously, but it's not good for them. It's not healthy, right?

It's got so much sodium in it. I have no idea, but I would assume Annie's is better than like a Kraft and dinner thing. Well, sometimes they get Kraft dinner too, right? Fair enough. You know, right. And so from a what's healthier for your children, is it to eat the healthiest food that builds the best brain function

and body function and growth? Or is it to, you know, live in the real world where people don't actually have a chef that makes them food every day, right? Would they end up more helpless? I mean, I think your idea of having them help with food prep is great in theory, but I can tell you, we have lots of great ideas in theory. Like I have the idea in theory of creating some kind of bonus system where if you're the first one dressed and downstairs and eating your breakfast, then you get some kind of star that gets you some kind of reward because positive reinforcement works so much better than negative reinforcement but in practice it's early and i'm tired and i'm just gonna say get downstairs we gotta go like you just yell at them right like so it's yes but realistically if the kids are not helpful that day or busy they're still gonna make the food or whatever and kids are smart they're gonna figure that out oh i'm conveniently busy yeah oh i have to go to the bathroom one of my middle child is like the queen of that uh okay guys need to empty the dishwasher uh okay you have

to go to the bathroom and then the dishwasher is three quarters empty by the time she comes back she puts away two things and she's like i helped and i'm like yeah uh you're looking at the king of that trick go do something else i used to be really bad for that and my family thought it was intentional but i just have really intense gamer bladder and i would stand up for the first time after a very long time and then actually just need to go to the washroom and i used to get in arguments where i'd be like just leave a bunch of it for me like i'm not i'm not trying to avoid it i'm not saying that's what's happening here but definitely not yeah that used to happen to me all right next up okay do you have any comment on all the eight gigabits of vram not being enough conversations

it's gigabytes but um i mean yeah yeah this happens all the time. Game developers keep pushing the envelope and graphics card manufacturers. I mean, okay, so you gotta look at what is a GPU, right? You've got the sand in the middle, the GPU itself, and that, the intellectual property, is mostly owned by your AMD, your nvidia or your intel so the the the manufacturer uh some of the ip may be co-developed with a samsung or a tsmc or whatever else for that particular chip but but largely the ip is owned by that designer of that silicon and so while there's

a lot of cost associated with it to the board manufacturer or to you, the consumer, the actual cost on that is largely in the development of it. Right now, there is obviously what they pay for silicon wafers from a TSMC or a Samsung. But a lot of that cost is intellectual property. So there's great margin in it is what I'm trying to say. RAM, on the other hand, is not the intellectual property of NVIDIA or AMD. They help contribute to standards like graphics DDR or HBM, I think to a degree, but they don't own that. And so when they buy RAM, they buy it from Samsung or micron or whoever else there's a lot less margin in buying commodity memory and strapping it to a

board there's also basically no margin in integration of things like heatsinks and PCBs like VRMs right so then with all that in mind if I am trying to reduce my my total bill of materials does it make sense to build a crappier gpu or do i want to put a really good gpu on it that has lots of cool ai tech that helps me sell my product or do i want to downgrade the memory that has a much bigger cost and is much less marketable well i don't want to put on any more frame buffer than i absolutely have to that memory so that's where they're going that's where they're going to try and lower their BOM cost or their bill of materials cost for the graphics card,

for the completed card. NVIDIA does spend money in weird ways sometimes, like when they first started putting these super high-end coolers on their cards. I guess this is back in the 700 series, these cast aluminum heatsink shrouds and these really fancy, you know, machined backplates and stuff. It kind of never made sense to me because I'm sitting here going like, oh, well, that's unnecessary. That doesn't contribute to performance. That's very nontraditional.

And then, you know, they go and do weird things like the three and a half gig RAM thing with the 900 series. like the three and a half gig RAM thing with the 900 series. So is it necessarily the best, is it the best plan for them to cost up a heatsink and cost down on memory? I don't know. I'm not an engineer. But I can tell the community is not happy about it. And yeah, more VRAM is absolutely a great way

to future-proof your purchase. But I will say this too. It feels like it's making a bigger difference right now than I'm used to it making in the past. We've seen 2 and 4 gig versions, 4 and 8 gig versions of the same cards many times in the past. And the general rule often has been that by the time that VRAM is a limitation for you,

realistically, the performance of that GPU is going to be a bigger limitation. But we're seeing people modifying these graphics cards, putting extra memory on them, and getting much better performance. And that's over the last couple of generations now. So, yeah, I can see some justification for AMD's snark that they've been throwing at NVIDIA

about how they've been kind of cheaping out on video frame buffer. I just got a message from our community coordinator. Oh, could you mention this on behalf of the LTT folding team? It's on the WAN show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I missed it because it was buried

with the merch stuff. Yep. LTT is competing in the Boink Pentathlon. It's a two-week competition where teams lend their unused processing power to perform calculations for five different projects in science, physics, and mathematics. LTT has competed only twice before, with our best rank being sixth overall in 2021. The event has been running for around 24 hours at this point. We're currently in sixth place. There are over $1,000 of prizes up for grabs. And if you're up to the challenge, you can

come on and join the team. Prizes include 10 $100 LTT store gift cards and a handful of Steam gift cards. Prizes are a raffle from all active participants. So no matter how powerful your computer is, you have the same chance to win. The link will be posted in chat. And I will do that now. Pretty awesome. This is one of the things this is the kind of thing that we want our community coordinator doing because it's like it's not like we don't want to throw prizing at the community and support these kinds of things. It's just that I don't personally have time to oversee it. So I need someone to actually follow up and, you know, send out prizing and that sort of thing. This is great.

Fantastic. Thank you very much for the reminder. I was going to say name, but I think this individual is not off probation. Cool. Hit me again. Sure thing. Hey, LLND, love the show.

A question Luke might be able to answer i bought some bird seed recently how long does it take for the birds to grow once i plant them the cashier couldn't answer me what how long that's not it's not you feed it to the birds? I'm a security professional at a game company. Finding it infuriating, the Uber CISO skated his cybercrime charges. That's a lot of Cs. Do you want to start again? That's a lot of Cs in this one. I'm a security professional at a game company.

Finding it infuriating, the Uber CISO skated on his cybercrime charges. There you go. are you worried about being held liable for one of your employees uh did i miss something here i was replying to a text one i i think we for one of your employees i don't know if we technically know the full story there is uber getting pinned with this is that what's going on i don't know um are you worried about being held liable for one of your employees i mean yeah absolutely like it is it is it is totally possible for someone here to say something or do something that could maybe not legally, um, cause problems for me, but absolutely perceptually cause problems. Like I think if, if someone here came out as some kind

of hyper toxic, um, you know, like let's, let's, let's pick something sort of unequivocally bad, like a Nazi supporter or something like that. I think that if we didn't take any kind of action, that could that could reflect really poorly on our company and on me personally. So yeah, definitely, it's something that we're concerned about. And it's something that we try to try to be cognizant of as we're as we're continuing to build our team, as we want to make sure that to the greatest degree we can, everyone who works here is kind of awesome. That's, I think, a pretty...

It shouldn't be that hard, but it's difficult, but I think it's a good and worthwhile goal and something that I actually talked to our HR department about earlier this week. It's like, what do we care about? We care about working with people that want to be here and want to, and are excited about, you know, what they're doing and what our mission is, right, which is to make consumer electronics and technology more exciting and more accessible to people. If you don't care about that, and you don't want that, then you should go work somewhere else where they do something that you do want to do and that you are excited about.

Like, that's fine. Right? You don't have to work here. Yeah. Okay, up next. Hi, LLD. Thoughts on licensure for software or electronics engineers like the more traditional engineering disciplines. Ethics rules could require that engineers don't enact anti-consumer practices, for example.

Okay. So this is a whole thing where engineer can be a protected term, where you can't call yourself an engineer unless you have gone through a particular program and or you are a member of a particular organization that has its own sort of internal governing rules for your behavior. I think it would be super cool if, you know, the engineering body had rules like, yeah, members who want to call themselves engineer cannot enact anti-consumer practices, but they would basically just create a situation where every licensed engineer or certified engineer, whatever you want to call it, would be utterly unemployable because many companies,

and it's a weird thing, but many companies seem to put themselves on opposite sides of a struggle with their customers for how they can extract more money from them, right? And so I think that it would be, it's noble, but I don't think it's realistic. I was having a similar conversation about this with someone very recently, actually, where it was basically along the lines of

yeah it would be great if everyone kind of came together and said you know what let's not do that anymore um oh man what was it it was microsoft if microsoft could put pressure on uh it was something it was like some kind of like awful like software software behavior or something like that and i was like yeah that would be great but it just yeah it was the same answer right it's just it's just not realistic they'll find another way around exploiter's gonna exploit exploiters gonna exploit keep the new desk pad designs coming question are there any products on ltdstore.com that you would consider a flop or underperformer or any products that were better than expected the towels are better than expected towels. I sold like a hundred towels today. Like what? Buy towels.

I mean, yeah, they've got a cool keyboard design and they're good towels. I'm not like, I'm not down on the towels or anything. I just- I was thinking about getting some towels, to be honest, mine are a little old around here. Yeah, I need new towels as well. So yeah, everybody needs towels. Like maybe it's just one of those things

where sometimes accidentally, we just kind of go, man, shopping for towels sucks towels sucks yeah what if there was just a place to get you know towels at this you just know they're gonna be good reasonable price any size you want um i don't know i don't get it because we we we had got them back in stock last week i think and they've just been crushing it since then um as for flops, oh man, I could tell you about some flops. Our first attempt at women's clothing was a pretty big flop. I mean, the reviews are pretty good for the original sweatpants and cropped hoodie, but the sales have not been very strong. I can tell you guys that much. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's kind

of middling. I think that we're going to have to come up with some, actually, you know what, why don't, why don't we talk about it? The one time that we've kind of taken it to price on products from LTT store was Black Friday. And I think what we'll probably do is continue to have that be like, you know, the time that we'll run, you know, price promos or whatever else. But there may be one other time. And I think we're going to kind of piggyback on Prime Day. And we're going to do Lime Day. They might not be sweet deals, but they're sour and tangy in a delightful way

That's like kind of Kind of what I'm thinking for it Lime day So maybe what we'll do is Nothing actually gets discounted But there's like No no it'll be good though Bundles

No no no No no no I'm talking just like We'll take stuff that's like Yeah this isn't really working And just blast it away Yep I expect Isn't that's like, yeah, this isn't really working and just blast it away. Yeah.

I expect. Isn't that how like they all work? That's what we did on Black Friday. Yeah, but isn't that what like everybody does? I mean, well, no, because Amazon just hikes the price up in the months leading up to it. So I'm saying we won't do that. So you're not going to like lie about it? No.

Yeah, cool. Oh, no, no, no. No, we're going to, if we discount something, it's because this is the normal price, and we are blowing it away. Yeah. So you're going to have to move pretty fast if you want to get your hands on any of that stuff. I don't know which items we're going to do.

I think I have a meeting with Nick next week to figure out what kind of things we're going to run for Lime Day. But I do have some candidates in mind. Some stuff, okay, I'd say our sweatband set hasn't been a smash hit. We've never restocked it. We're still sitting on, like, thousands of units from our initial order. But they're sweatbands. They don't take up a ton of space.

They have reasonable margins. So they don't cost a ton to store. We make money on them. And they're well-reviewed. So it's not like we're it's not like they're a problem they're just you know selling a little bit slowly so that's fine there okay ILD tech like AR and interactive content has transformed my industry broadcast media are there any technologies that have fundamentally transformed how LTT operates? And is there any horizon besides AI?

I'd say the biggest one that's impacting us right now and will continue to impact us is, well, okay, you say besides AI, but too bad, is the ability to reach new audiences through AI-generated transcription, translation, and voice generation. Because at our scale, it's just, yeah, obviously, I'd love to hire dedicated translation teams and professional voice actors for every possible dialect of every possible language, but it's not feasible. If we're, we are not Mr. Beast, right? If there's a hundred million speakers of one language and we're getting

a hundred thousand views, okay, let's, let's take Mr. Beast. Okay. Right. So you've got however many, like a billion plus English speakers. If he takes his video and he translates it for a billion Hindi speakers, he can double his views, which would be 30 or 40 million views of video. That cost is negligible. Portuguese. Okay. So we get millions, but not hundreds of millions and certainly not a billion, right. Compared to our English speaking audience or English accessible audience. All of a sudden, okay, if we can get a million or 2 million views, maybe we get like 200,000. Those economics don't make any sense. So, and even, even for something like Hindi, they don't necessarily make sense because the CPMs for views in those languages and views in those regions are so much lower that it's not like you're just doubling your reach. So for us, we need tools that make it more cost effective for us to support more languages. And I'd say that's going to probably

not double our business, but could help us grow 10 or 20% just by reaching a broader audience over the next couple of years as we work that into our workflow. Apparently, there are only approximately 350 million Hindi speakers. So I guess a lot of Punjabi as well. I don't know the actual like dialect split. It's a lot of people. Yeah, it's a lot. Hey, as well. I don't know the actual like dialect split. It's a lot of people. Yeah, it's still a lot. Hey, Luke, I just read the... How you doing?

I just read the news that scientists taught pet parrots to video call each other. What do you think about using tech not to make ownership easier, but making the lives of pets easier? I think it's super cool. Or better, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I talked to you about this. I should have sent you the article, but making the lives of pets easier. I think it's super cool. Or better.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I talked to you about this. I should have sent you the article, but I probably forgot. It's actually really wild. They taught parrots to video call each other. And they found that over time, they made friends. And those friends would more frequently call each other.

So it wasn't necessarily even just that the one would like learn to press the one button more easily because the other one would also be like oh this one's my friend so it would call that one back as well and they would like go get their toys and like show their friend on the video call the toy and they seem to understand that their friend is only in this thing but they can like call them when they want and like hang out introduce them in person after and see if they still recognized each other i don't think so um but like actually super cool that's wild and like there was clearly they like enjoyed it and they're having fun and they're being social and all this kind of stuff very very interesting yeah um but yeah i don't know i mostly

just wanted to explain the story of what they were basing that merch message off of because that's super interesting and yeah if you can use tech to enhance the lives of your pets why not that sounds great that's super cool so yeah next up i feel like i already read this one yeah and okay hey lld love watching the wan show but how do you always keep the discussion interesting is there a threshold for the cutting room floor oh boy i don't know that's a good question we can be pretty vicious about topics yeah i mean you look at the way that i will sort of okay i think ai is a perfect example of this where luke's patience for it was a little bit longer than mine

and it starts with oh no luke's gonna talk about ai again you know as a as a uh a cue as a as a prompt that, hey, this is probably kind of getting there. You might want to keep this one short. Like that's the unspoken undertone of the joke that I'm making. And then if he doesn't get the clue, then I'll be like, all right, let's move on.

And he does the same thing to me. So I think that between the two of us how quickly we get bored with things helps us to keep the conversation moving um and realistically like you guys i think i think the cynical among you won't believe me so you can just plug your ears and go la la la and pretend this isn't happening but for the rest of you this is not actually that dissimilar to what it's like when we just are on discord um he in particular swears a lot less on wanshow than he does on discord i think neither of us is as politically correct on discord, um,

because we don't have to be, and we're tired or whatever. Um, it takes, we're, we're getting older. It takes energy because I honestly just forget, like there's certain terms that aren't,

it's moving really fast and it's actually kind of hard to keep up with. I'm trying, but yeah. Yeah. Um, there was um there was there was one time not even that long ago we went out to dinner after when yeah ended up just continuing to talk about tech stuff the whole time yeah so like why did we even stop the show we just needed food how do we keep it you know interesting well i don't know as long as i'm interested in what

he's saying and i feel like hanging around with him and vice versa, the WAMP show will be interesting. It's going to be fine. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This one's from Sarah. Need more women's underwear colors.

Guys, if you were to support a new LDT channel that isn't completely tech or gaming what topic do you think would be the easiest to get off the ground oh easy yeah easiest is tough no because i would oh okay i'm sure i'm i'm ready automotive oh okay that's tech though okay that's tech honestly that's fair. And we'll do more later. There's no way that between Jake and Alex and Gary, who are all giant petrolheads. Andy.

Yeah. Never mind Andy. Nick. There's a bunch. The more you think about it, there's more and more and more. Yeah. No. You see these guys at the go-kart track. There's no way we don't eventually end up with some kind of dedicated car channel. It's just a matter of time. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, that one. I mean, I was going to say, I wouldn't pick something easy. I'd pick something that I actually think is fun. Like I. Well, the question was easiest to get off the ground. Yeah. Okay.

But you can take it that way. Auto. Sure. Fine. Yeah. No, no, no, no no no no no no no no take it fun take it fun i'd want to do something with my kids i'd want to do like uh i've you know what i've always wanted to do a like thrifting channel yeah just like go to thrift stores and like i can garage sales into something else or yeah even just i found something cool or whatever

yeah just find weird stuff because it's basically unboxings, except you're not limited to whatever the shiny piece du jour is. You could go look at anything from anywhere and just kind of poke at it. So you find an Atari at a garage sale. So that's the video. You go out looking for something and you find it and maybe it's broken. You solder some caps, you play it and your kids are like this is a crap game. Like okay fair enough.

But it was a cool adventure. Yeah. Yeah. But at least you tried something right? Yeah. Hello LLND. Is there an ETA on when there will be big and tall sizes available? And will there be an option for big and tall for those of us who are bigger than Linus in all three dimensions? First big and tall, then big and tall, if all of that goes well.

No ETA? No. Well, big is coming, and then we'll be tall, and then, assuming all goes well, big and tall. I don't want to give a timeline. We're trying. It's more important that we get it right than that we get it soon.

Yes. Big agree. Let's see if I can get this right. Dinah's Duke and Lan. Can you please explain why Windows File Explorer still can't show folders size on disk and instead of having to go into the properties. I don't know. It drives me crazy because I think it used to.

Back in Windows XP, didn't it used to? And like realistically, you know, the amount of crap that Windows does in the background, why isn't just probing that and making sure that it's constantly available in an index just a thing it does then? By all means, allow me to turn it off,

but it should be a feature. I used to manually run my index all the time so that it would populate faster. I use a third-party tool that does it in five seconds, and including my entire NAS. Yeah, like, come on, bro. It's available. It's a thing. Yeah, it's mind-boggling.

And the fact that it takes so long. This is f***ing metadata. You don't have to dig into the contents of every... You're not watching every movie on this drive. It's metadata. To me, the fact that stuff like Space Sniffer isn't a first-party tool at this point is point is just like yeah it's kind of mind-blowing what yeah like winderstat i think is a more um recently updated one i think space never stopped

getting we've moved on to whiz tree now oh whiz tree which is like three seconds to do uh 500 terabytes it's amazing wild wow um okay moving oh yeah what what are some features that you would expect to have by now or is that like the major one for you oh i'm i'm sure there's stuff but i can't think of anything off the top of my head okay lld how can i read my boss's mind when he doesn't have time to tell me how can i accurately evaluate context clues to deliver a report that is what he's looking for. There is no... What question is this? What are you even talking about?

What do you mean? What? This is such a good question. This is a great question. You don't understand because you're that person. Yeah, everyone hates you for this. What? What are you talking about?

What do you mean? How am I... I'm that person? Have you never had this experience with somebody i guess you're the boss so it's like yeah you're the person okay well this question is about you're the boss that this person has to deal with let's uh let's use yvonne as the context here uh if you could pretend yvonne is the boss that's's not pretending. But I don't deliver reports to her because she knows they won't be right.

So, yeah, I would never... How can I accurately evaluate context clues to deliver a report? That's what they're looking for. So Linus will do... I have to be fair here. Linus will do both. Linus will give you tons of information

and a perfect, this is exactly what I want, every question you can have answered Linus will do both. Linus will give you tons of information and a perfect, this is exactly what I want, every question you can have answered here, go do it. And he'll also do, I want this thing, and then just walk away. And you have to figure it out. He'll do both. And, I don't know, it just

kind of comes over time. Well, my expectation is that I have a world-class team full of smart people who are hard working and that they will probably figure it out and if they don't figure it out then i will tell them what they didn't figure out and then they'll probably figure it out better next time like i it's yeah like that's am i am i the idiot here for not seeing the problem with this i don't i don't think it's a huge problem. I think to a certain degree for efficiency sake,

you can't have like insanely detailed things every single time. Um, but sometimes it's really important. Like we laid out, okay. Earlier this week, we had to have like an hour long meeting about the plan for, uh,

how we're going to represent, uh, how we're going to organize the data that we present on the lab's website for a category like GPUs. There's like an actually absurd amount of information. And there's a lot of valid ways to do it. So we have to kind of decide,

okay, well, what do we think is the best way? And in order to decide that, we have to have a clear idea of what the vision is for the site past minimum viable product, past V1, past V2, and know what a v3 might look like so that's something that i have to be involved in because i can't possibly expect anybody to know that yeah but if it's hey here's a product we need to make a video about this i expect them to go look at some of the documents that we have.

Like we have a, we have a document called how to write good videos. Um, and most of it is stuff that I would consider to be kind of, um, common sense to a degree, but it's also even something that's common sense. It's still helpful to have written out as as a

reminder right so here's how to how to write good videos uh one the 10 laws of linus one don't waste the viewer's time what's the point make your point as concisely as possible while maximizing clarity tell me why i should care number two the scope. Make sure your point isn't too broad. Think of the game Portal. Its shortness is its greatness. Recognize when something has gone on for too long. This involves reading it to yourself at full volume, no whispering, and seeing if you run out of breath or patience. Number three, load up the learning outcomes.

So lay out the learnables for each section of the video. They should come fast and furious at the beginning. Front load the video to improve retention. Number four, make it personal. Why should I care? Either apply it to the viewer, assuming the subject matter is broad enough, or to yourself or Linus or someone recognizable. Five, ask questions out loud, then answer them.

This one is so important. I expect if you are given a task that you will ask questions and then you will answer them out loud to me later. And if you don't ask any questions, you won't get any answers. And then I'm going to tell you why are you here giving me a report when you haven't asked any questions and you haven't found any answers. Right? That's not always fair. You don't always want questions to be asked because you're busy no no i mean asking them to yourself okay ask questions out loud then answer them is is like for for videos like that's it's just such an effective storytelling technique yeah for sure but linus why on earth would they

have it shaped like this when a square would be so much more efficient to you know pack in next to each other and maximize volume i'm so glad you asked the shape of a cylinder is you know whatever right uh maximizes the materials you know whatever um number six provide context it's not always obvious how good a screen is or amazing a microprocessor feature is is it the price that makes it amazing why should i care that one comes up a lot number seven remember who you're talking to every video is a potential gateway drug that pulls the viewer deeply into the hobby but some videos have a more technical level of discourse than others so don't talk down to the audience about a highly technical subject, but don't always assume pre-existing knowledge. Number eight, plan for

the payoff. Know what the payoff will need to be so that the video culminates in something satisfying. Lord of the Rings would have sucked if we never got to see Mount Doom. Don't forget, a negative outcome is still an outcome. It's part of the journey, and a journey can be an outcome. is still an outcome. It's part of the journey and a journey can be an outcome. You just need to plan for it. Number nine, tell and show us how to feel. And this is where this is from our internal documentation. If you break it down, 90% of YouTube is reaction videos, reacting to news or life or tech. Don't tell me what's happening. If you can show me how to feel what's happening so instead of and this is an example from a video where someone scripted it and brought it to me and I said yeah it's okay but here's how it

needs to be yeah look at this pixel six 5g in the corner but when I type these digits and check phone information it says I'm on LTE. What the heck? Why would I say all that when I can just say, but when I type this LTE, what the heck? I don't have to say check phone information. It says I'm on LTE. I have to show emotion. I have to show you how to feel. Number 10, have fun. Fun is infectious and so is misery. If you have a bad time making a video, find a way to make it fun or you will fail, which will create more misery, which will create more failure. I think you complete, it was very cool to go over because the video Bible is awesome, all that kind of stuff. I think you completely dodged the actual, maybe unintentionally, but the actual question that the person had,

though, because you're giving an example of where you did lay out what you want. And they're asking, how do I deal with when they don't? Well, what do I want that's not clear? You often ask for things that aren't that clear. I mean, no, tell me. What can I do better? You'll be like, I want this thing. I don't care.

I don't actually mind this. Oh, I see. Okay, Dan. Oh, I have learned that you go, I would like nebulous thing. And I just do the nebulous thing. Okay. And then it's normally fine. The answer that I would give is try to look into the things that that person has liked or valued in the past

and try to take the tenets that you can take from that and apply it to what you're currently working on and do the best job you can. That's a much more eloquent way to put what I tried to say it's it's i mean it's all people relationships right yeah like yeah boss employee um friend or you know so or landlord or whatever your whole life is full of interactions with people but they're just people like if you look sorry oh i was just gonna say some so i think an example where i did give just an end point and didn't provide a lot of guidance was Whale Land. Yeah. I was like, let's have a land. It's going to be sick.

We want people to interact. That's pretty much all we said. standpoint of this thing that Linus wants is, or why is he asking me to do this? Why is it important to him? And then you can kind of base your entire task around that. Well, then if you don't agree, then you need to get on the same page about the importance. If you don't think it's important, or you think something else is important. If Linus has not correctly articulated why it's important to him, that's when I would ask follow up questions. like one example that i would give is look at creator warehouse products sure if you look at a huge range of creative if someone's like if you're like hey i want to whatever yeah i want i want a lighter

where it's the shape of a butt and it looks like the flame is coming out of the butt and if you're wondering like how good it should be how effective it should be what materials you should use all that kind of stuff look into the other products in the store and you can probably figure out a like quality level design language for making this thing yeah but lighter heirloom piece yes we will do my cat teaser at some point it's gonna be like if you were trying to dollar decisions on materials for the cat teaser thing, you could probably figure out the direction to go in

by looking at the other products on the store. Like there's often things around that can guide decisions. Someone in Float Flame chat, I'd consider buying that later. Don't encourage him. I'd have to. Hi, LL. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. I'd have to. Hi, LL... Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay.

Let's move on. Hi, LLD. With the scrutiny of, I guess, censored content, should people on commissions also... No, sponsored content. Sorry, it was cut off there. Should people on... Let's try this again. Hi, LLD.

With the scrutiny on sponsored content, should people on commissions also be required to disclose? Mortgage brokers, travel agents often will have incentives from companies to promote their stuff. I absolutely think so. Yeah. Yeah. Any kind of, well, I mean, we talked about this when we were talking about marketing the backpack recently. You know, anytime there's a financial incentive to do anything, there is supposed to be a disclosure. It's just a matter of how well regulated it is and how, how canceled someone will get if it turns out that they were not properly disclosing things, which these days

seems to be not very canceled, because there's plenty of creators that participated in fairly egregious things like crypto rug pulls or whatever else that seemed to be not very canceled at all somehow i don't i can't fathom it personally but hey there you are yeah love the show having grown to 100 plus employees how do you expect to balance being a business with being a relatable creator am i relatable anymore i mean there's certain things that we do intentionally like here's something we've we've struggled a lot with hey this is also from the how to write good videos document it's not one of the 10 laws of Um, where is it? Uh, oh, I don't know. It seems to have been moved, but basically I, I laid out a guideline for the writing team that basically says, look, we need to stop talking about money

in subjective terms. Um, and it was, have I talked about this on WAN show before? Oh, okay. Then nevermind. Um, yeah, I, I, I don't, Show before? Yeah. Oh, okay. Then nevermind. Yeah, I don't know. It's tough because some days I feel completely out of touch. Like I said, with the, you know, just sure, make it so for the $3,000 concrete pad for our, you know, six figure RF chamber, right? Like, obviously that's not a real person situation that they find themselves in. But then other times, you know, I have exactly the same challenges that you guys do. Like, how do I manage the time my kids are spending on their devices?

And, you know, how do I make sure that, you know, how do I deal with a you know crash when my when i launched this game on my computer right like that no amount of money makes you immune to any of that no amount of people who work for you means that you don't have to you don't freak out when your server you know reboots and you all of a sudden your array is not showing up properly it's like yeah just because you have a backup doesn't mean that it didn't just create a ton of work for you. Like, I don't know. I think the most important thing is to not get too far removed from the actual tech, and that's tough.

The more people that are here, the more involved I am in administration, but I think that I might have some ideas for how to fix that, and hopefully I'll be able to share them with you guys in the coming weeks. Howdy, lads. Going through a hard breakup right now. Your large library of long streams are a great distraction. If you could change one thing in the history of technology, what would it be and why? More stereoscopic 3D.

I don't know. It's cool. It's kind of still here. You know, it's just, it kind of comes and goes, right? You've got your VR now. Is it fair to talk about software features when he's asking about technology? Sure.

Microtransactions, no. Delete microtransactions. That's a pretty good answer. I like that. Me too. That's better than mine. That's a very noble answer. I was just memeing.

Okay, last one of my curated today. Oh, now it's two. I still run my 20-year-old Logitech 5.1 speakers. It's better than being tethered to a headset and a lot of games support 5.1, letting me know when enemies are behind me. Why did Linus stop using these? Oh, I moved in with my in-laws, and they had tenants, and so using speakers is something I didn't really think about this

when I lived in the middle of the boondocks in my parents' house. Using speakers is a privilege, not a right. And then I went from living with the in-laws to having children who sleep. Nowadays, there's no real reason not to use speakers other than single player gaming is not really much of a thing for me anymore. And when you're a multiplayer gamer, don't be that guy. Don't be the guy with speakers. Right? So when the heck am I ever going to use speakers? Yeah, it ends up working for me that if I'm going to use speakers, I could probably just play on the TV anyways. so then it's like kind of a combination experience you know speaking of video games

hello linus i'm happy to hear you finished horizon zero dawn i hope you enjoyed it i did do you plan on playing horizon forbidden west anytime soon or will you be waiting for a pc desk launch deck launch why would i play it on a playstation when i can play it later on a pc there is you know what this is this is like a funny thing that i feel like is really different between me and other people i don't need to do it now i don't need to watch the movie now i don't need to play that game now my queue of games that i'm supposed to play is so flipping deep that if i started and it was my full-time job to do nothing but play games that i want to play and are on my list of things to play or even in my steam library already it would be probably a couple of years before I would get to anything current.

So if something new comes out, what's the hurry? It's fair. And there's situations where that's totally not valid, right? Being part of the initial launch of a new multiplayer game in particular and part of the community and, you new multiplayer game in particular and part of the the community and you know figuring out all the little the little tricks and stuff alongside everyone else that's that's huge that's so fun that's so engaging right but i i don't have it's tough to play competitive games for me these days i'm just not that good and dude people are so sweaty these days like

whoa it feels like man like over half the players are playing as if this could become their full-time job like it's well look how many people work look how many people aspire to be streamers right it's true yeah i don't it looks. I do not envy streamers. Yeah, it's kind of weird. I feel like the amount of people that play multiplayer games casually, when we were growing up, used to be the majority and is absolutely the minority these days. It's kind of wild. Hot take, they've always been sweaty.

I don't agree at all, actually. I've brought up this analogy a bunch in the past actually and I think this directly counters that point Back in the day playing multiplayer rpg games if you got a fancy piece of armor or weapon, but it was ugly You wouldn't wear it If it was a stat upgrade, but you're like, ah, it looks gross People wouldn't put it on and this this, I'm not making this up. A lot of Zoomer boys don't believe me, but it's actually a thing. People would be like, yeah, that's an upgrade. But like, I'm wearing entirely green armor and that's orange or something.

And it just doesn't, it doesn't fit. It doesn't look good. So I'll keep it in my bags. Maybe I'll find stuff that works with it later. It just doesn't fit. It doesn't look good. So I'll keep it in my bags. Maybe I'll find stuff that works with it later.

And now it's like you'll look like a total random wardrobe person just as long as these things give better stats. You can compete harder. Just, ah, it's a very, very different mentality. Finally making my first LTT store.com purchase. You've occasionally mentioned applications and tools you use to make your work easier. Do you use any particular human capital management software at LMG? Thanks, y'all. Was that for me?

Yeah. I was reading. Sorry. It could be both of you. I mean, LM i mean i didn't hear it uh hcm software hcm i think it's like a hr software uh human capital management that sounds horrifying i don't like that term it sure does um if the question was are we looking into it i would say no do we use it i didn't know what it was no manage their employees from hire to retire no but i wouldn't be surprised if uh like managing employees is absolutely a thing that you need to do and like onboarding and offboarding can

be very complicated especially without any form of automation or system to do so. We didn't have any HR people until very recently. So maybe they'll approach me about getting something like this at some point in the future. I wouldn't be too surprised. I know they've been talking about certain implementations of different online tools that they're already using. So I don't know. Maybe.

We are growing. Things happening. Can we please have a way for digital-only LTX pass holders to purchase a custom-colored screwdriver? The flight and hotel costs would cost me nearly $2,000. I wouldn't mind a $60 tier. It's tough. It's very, very tough to get those colorways out.

I think there's some things that if we're being completely realistic there isn't a feasible way for us to do it unless you come to the show and i know that's a tall ask and it's not going to work for everyone but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't make it cool for the people that can show up um and you have talked about like maybe we'll put some extras up or something. They wouldn't be build to order though. Absolutely not. There'd just be random colors. There's just no way for us to handle that with our distribution and assembly partner. Yeah.

And it's local. Like someday, someday, maybe. But it is not something that we're set up for right now. If I had to, I don't know if i want to throw this out there but hey here it goes um you know if an enterprising individual who's going to be attending the show wanted to coordinate with people who can't attend the show and buy more than one in person you know that all sounds very community oriented and all that uh but we're not gonna we're not gonna allow people to buy a hundred drivers either so don't kid yourself

you're not going to be showing up and like buying our entire stock and like you know making a uh a side hustle business out of doing this but if if people show up and they buy like two or three we're not going to tell them no so So I'd say that might be a way, maybe find someone who's going. Sorry. Linus being a Supreme commander player and being alive for as long as you have, I assume you've also experienced total annihilation and it's amazing music.

What's your favorite or favorites video game soundtrack? Oh, wow. That's a good question. Do you favorite or favorites video game soundtrack? Oh, wow. That's a good question. Do you have a favorite video game soundtrack? For a long time? It was the Bastion soundtrack. I liked that a lot.

Um, I used to run to that all the time. Um, I've spent so much time listening to final fantasy six. I never, ever get sick of it. Um, but like,

there's some, there's some just amazing like main theme songs like if i just had to pick you know biggest bangers like obviously you know halo's got to be up there oh yeah it's just the halo intro is sick it's so good right i've often been into music without lyrics because that's exactly enough distraction for me that i can stay focused on things well the second you have lyrics i start saying them in my head and it's bad um so i used to like i would just put on like the ftl soundtrack um but i don't think it's necessarily even that great it's just something that i had heard a lot because i liked that game um for like chill vibes

i used to like the the grizzly hills ambience um just random stuff like that i don't know nobody's talking about metal gear rise my birds listen to the assassin's creed 4 sea shanties all the time always are they video calling each other i wish that is so cool okay last one i have here in the curated. Question for Linus. In retrospect, did the roast of Linus Sebastian hurt in the moment? How do you feel about watching it back, if you ever do? No, it was hilarious. And it's still hilarious.

There's so much, far too much truth in there. So good. That's a proper roast. It should be truthful. And now we're into potentials with you guys. Every time I watch it back, I forget things that happened and just burst out laughing. Yeah. So funny.

Oh, man. Hi, Linus and Luke. I really admire your leadership skills. As a business owner, how do you go about developing your leadership skills and the philosophy that lets you guide your decision making? I mean, honestly, so much of it just comes down to the golden rule. Like, maybe part of it is just because I did used to work as a low level employee. And I do remember it.

Like, it just seems kind of common sense um you know say please say thank you um you know don't make people feel like they're being dismissed if they need to be dismissed acknowledge that you know explain why you have to do it. Make time later. Like just, I don't know. Just don't be rude. It's all Bill and Ted, right? Be excellent to each other. And if you, if you can't, if you screw up sometimes, what, what is, what is up with people and thinking apologizing is not cool anymore? Like, you know, back, backing down, you know, you should never apologize like what what's up with

that i don't know if you make a mistake the current thing i don't think i've seen that yeah you know no it's it's a thing in certain i believe yeah i don't know i don't know i think it's really dumb toxic masculinity i don't know it's toxic something toxic something i've been shopping for a new ultra wide monitor and i'm struggling to figure out the differences between hdr 10 or 400 or whatever oh i see so hdr 400 is nonsense hdr 600 is okay hdr 1000 is pretty good and those are the capabilities of your display. And then there's also the like OLED version

where 600 and up is pretty good actually. As for HDR 10 versus Dolby Vision versus HLG, that just comes down to whatever content you're gonna be consuming and which format it was mastered in. So it all comes down to what content you'll going to be consuming and which format it was mastered in so it all comes down to what content you'll be consuming HDR 10 plus seems like it might kind of win but Dolby vision still doing pretty good and then HLG I think has pretty good support in TV so there's no clear winner and what we really need

is someone to at this point to develop a metadata interpreting middleware for the metadata interpreting standards so that you can just interpret all of them correctly i don't know there's devices like that for home theater use that will take whatever content and then you know adjust it so that every frame is is perfectly balanced within the capabilities of your display but they're like shockingly expensive still i think now there's one that i accidentally got rid of do you think we'll ever see a return of 3ds type screens on more mainstream devices like phones or a steam deck competitor next gen switch um we're gonna see 3d laptops with glasses free 3d um i've seen prototypes in person they look shockingly good i don't know that they'll go

mainstream i think they might be more professional but yeah they're really good okay last few here hey dll given the variations for the wan hoodie what is the likelihood that we will see different colorways for the windbreaker i've noticed linus seems to wear the Short Circuit hoodie most often now. Oh, sorry, one second. I missed a little bit of that. You're going to get new colors for the WAN hoodie. Not anytime soon. No, it's going to be WAN and Short Circuit for quite a while. Hey DLL, as a Fold4 user, my biggest gripe is whenever I fold it closed,

it closes the app and kicks me to the home screen. Does yours do this as well? It's a setting. You'll have to look it up, but in the settings you can tell it which apps, app by app, you want to continue where you left off if you close the phone. That's the default behavior though, is what you're seeing. Hi, me from the future. Linus, you mentioned during a Beat Saber livestream that you were trying the big screen beyond and it had some issues. Have you tested it since, and what's your review of it? It's super cool.

I actually have a bunch of notes on it, and I think either Adam from the writing team has not kept up with talking to them or they haven't replied either way i you know i want to cover it at some point but it's been kind of stalled um so i can just tell you guys what i have down so far i think no i don't see the dock big screen is. Is it big screen one word? I don't know. I made a bunch of notes. Basically, the fineness of the display is amazing. The contrast of the displays. So amazing. Really, really cool. Yeah, I can't find my dock doesn't matter. But there's some issues with the lenses where they kind of lens flare on bright objects that I find pretty distracting.

And I'm having an issue that might have been resolved by now, but I was having an issue with the mic a few weeks back that made it so that if any application was using the onboard USB-C audio device, the microphone wouldn't work in OBS. So I couldn't hear my game and also stream. So I was like, well, this is stupid. I'm not going to use this. I love the lightweight.

I love the custom fit. But there's just a deal breaker that I can't deal with for now. I think there's four incoming merch messages that are all Linus related. And then we're basically but yeah dunners uh okay oh can you give us some linus text tips uh i'm gonna go full boomer and say use lots of emojis nice nice lots of like colon p and you know I miss emoticons. I hate emojis. Me too. I wish they would not auto-convert as often.

Drives me nuts. They have more emotion. Yeah. How are you liking your Pebble? Do you plan on paying the $3 monthly fee for Rebel's voice transcription and weather services? I still haven't taken the 10 minutes to figure out how Rebel works and side load the pebble app

So I've actually just been wearing it ornamentally. I Will get around to it at some point I'm pretty sure watches are just fashion accessories at this point I think I think Nick like seriously uses his but he's the only person I know that does Ethan honestly, I don't know what to tell you other than that. It's really tough sometimes. I just get distracted and stuff languishes. Are there any other companies you draw inspiration from

in conducting business? Most are kind of sucky. Noctua is a big one. i like their philosophy when it comes to only releasing products when they're ready are there any that you draw inspiration from um honestly no it's kind of hard to get inspiration for the type of stuff that we do um when like everyone in the space is chasing vc money and buyouts i mean you could say the opposite um they're inspiring because they're doing bad and you want to do what they're not doing bad though no i wouldn't say they're doing bad i i am i know a lot of

people that are doing great i meant more that aren't ours for lin, you know, they're sucky, as you said. Yeah. Maybe. Last one. I swiped away a thing. Have you ever heard of the Black Mages? It's a metal rock band that covers Final Fantasy soundtracks. I'm sure Conrad has. I haven't, I'm afraid.

Thoughts on a motherboard throw cover for couches with the CPU pillow? Yeah, we wanted to do a blanket, but all the samples we got were awful. So we didn't. And that was that. I'm glad you like your shirt, Travis. Show archive. I can't do anything with that one for some reason. Oh, and it's gone. Do you have any plans on making a mask for the windbreaker to protect your face against rain and wind? No, I can't say that ever occurred to me. Probably not anytime soon. And hey, are you going to be on time for your thing? Yeah.

Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye! oh