The WAN Show - I'm Comfortable Not Owning Ubisoft Games - WAN Show January 19, 2024

Episode Date: January 22, 2024

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What is up everyone and welcome to The WAN Show. We've got a lot of great topics today. Ubisoft says gaming subscription success requires gamers to be comfortable not owning games. I mean, I for one am comfortable not owning their games. Yeah, I think that's what this means. In all seriousness though, they're probably going to win this. I don't know about that. it has been officially confirmed now search engines are in fact getting worse a recent study revealed that uh yeah it's not just google it's across

the board pretty much what else we got today did i manage to steal your two you sure did uh and then i found a a makeup one and i lost it fujitsu agrees it is morally culpable in 700 plus wrongful convictions which is a rough thing to agree yeah also uh everyone's been raging at youtube for going after their computer performance uh and it was an ad block bug. Whoops. We'll talk about that. Tremendous. tremendous why don't we jump right into our headline topic today and that is that ubisoft during an interview about the launch of the new ubisoft plus premium and classic subscription okay hold on actually we're going gonna get into this in a second shout out ubisoft okay i don't think anyone puts more work into rebranding their bullshit

than ubisoft okay you got what how many names has their stupid launcher ever had guys hit us in the chat okay i think it was you play at the start the look on your face by the way amazing um ubisoft connect is one of them uh no i don't so i think it's ubisoft connect now i am bear goes it's not you play anymore no no no formerly ubisoft game launcher yeah i think that's what it started as yeah okay okay yeah that's according to tony b486 in the floatplane chat it's ubisoft plus now it's not even ubisoft connect ubisoft plus uh okay uh hold on i think the game launcher is still called ubisoft connect i don't think we can take everything floatplane chat is saying is gospel truth skate rubin says was it origin at one point no that was ea yeah it's not it's not ubisoft plus it's it's ubisoft connect ubisoft

plus is their subscription service those are that we're talking about the launcher right now um the launcher was originally called ubisoft game launcher and then you play you play was actually a good name in my opinion uh they had an online pass called you play passport okay uh this was back in like 2012 or 2013 you play plus a monthly subscription service that gave you access to over 100 games in the ubisoft catalog was introduced at e3 2019 cool uh and then hope you like far cry and far cry derivatives in october 2020 this is all from wikipedia so take it for what it is probably fine in october 2020 apparently you play and ubisoft club were merged into ubisoft connect that makes sense and then as part of the ubisoft plus what um wow uh so anywho let's get back to um the launch of

the new ubisoft plus premium and classic subscriptions what the f**k these things are i don't know without looking them up. I assume they are some kind of subscription service that may or may not have anything to do with their launcher. Cool. Their director of subscriptions. Oh my god, they have a director of subscriptions because of course they do. I've got it. I've got the difference between Classic and Premium.

Alright, help me out. So Classic in Canadian dollars is 10 bucks a month and premium is 20 bucks a month in classic you get a selection of 50 plus can you hold on can you help me out with something really quick here sure how many games does ubisoft actually launch every year that's why i said far cry far cry derivatives one thing to note though is that they are a publisher don't forget about assassin's creed and assassin's creed derivatives uh assassin's creed at this point is basically a far cry derivative hot take here we go this is coming from someone who likes assassin's creed okay that's but they all just follow the go to the tower reveal the map continue forward model

i see yeah anyways no i haven't forgotten about i haven't played the most recent one i haven't forgotten about ano that's actually just published by ubisoft though so that's that's they are a publisher and they do publish a decent amount of games yes people like trackmania yeah all right some content okay but now hold on just a gosh darn second here because twenty dollars a month last time i checked is over two hundred dollars a year it's a lot of money actually so given that pc games only cost you know full price if you are buying nintendo games or you can't wait like two weeks you could buy like most of the games that ubisoft releases that year and just doing a premium subscription would cost me more than i spend on ubisoft games a year and just doing a premium subscription would cost me more than i

spend on ubisoft games a year and i buy the games that i want to play like i'm not i don't i don't cheap out on games so i guess what you're trying to say is that a better value for people's money would be a float plane subscription yeah we finally did it guys we finally interviewed the new ceo yeah he's six months into the job now. It took a little bit. New? Okay. Maybe not so much, but definitely.

In the grand scheme of things. Grand scheme of things. Definitely new. It's up on float plane. It's over an hour long. It ended up running a lot longer than we had sort of, yeah, than we'd sort of planned to. We took questions from the community. I also came up with some on my own and we kind of like riffed a little bit.

Yeah. It was fun. It was good. That's cool. So that's up on float plane along with and we kind of like rift a little bit. Yeah. It was fun. It was good. That's cool. So that's up on float plane along with a whole bunch of other great exclusives. Um, so they're director of subscriptions. I'm trying a new thing.

I, man, I actually feel really bad because I told, I told Riley and Jessica, okay, I want to help you guys make clips better. So I want to try and keep the topics. Stop. Stop with that face. So I want to try and keep the topics. Stop.

Stop with that face. I'm going to stop. Okay. I'm going to stop. I'm going to try and make the topics as clean as I can without random digressions and tensions. That's never going to happen. You just have to cap it off. Well, I think I have made it.

It's not going to work either. off well i think i have made it uh 19 words into this topic and have already gone on two major digressions i'm very sorry um i will do better ubisoft's director of subscriptions philippe patromblay observed that in order for video game subscriptions to really take off, a consumer shift needs to happen where gamers get more comfortable not owning their games, just like other consumers got comfortable not owning their CD collection or DVD collection. Now, in fairness to Mr. Tremblay,

that's a good point. I am perfectly comfortable at this point not owning a cd collection i do not need a cd collection what would i need it for so that i can have a bunch of random plastic in my house so that i can get up like a caveman when i want to listen to a different track on a different plastic disc you archive music that's important to you because you archive movies that are important to you i only archive movies on a central server that you're not so much of a music guy i mean i listen to music every day yeah for probably but are you like that into it over an hour a day yeah i wouldn't describe myself as

into it i spend far more time listening to music than i do watching movies yeah but i think that's much more casually for me um it's less about the casualness or not casualness or honestly even the time spent doing it and it's more about the uh the convenience if i could stream blu-rays with the touch of my finger the way that i can stream an mp3 then i wouldn't bother to have those on a server in my house either i wouldn't care are you not concerned about any of it going away i think that's less of a risk with music it's more of a risk with movies i think that my immediate reaction and this is going to be probably a little unpopular with someone um is that if a streaming service and uh i believe

youtube music i know google play music had this where if you had something in your likes or in your playlist or whatever else and it was removed from the platform it would leave a ghost like it would leave a stub that it was there so you would never lose that oh yeah that was a song i like to listen to that had some significance or whatever um and then what i would what i would do immediately if a song was pulled off of the service that i use because i'm not going to subscribe to more than one is i would just go pirate it upload it to the service which google play supported and i believe youtube music may also support. I can't remember. I haven't had to do it in a long time. I know YouTube Music can do local play.

Sure. Well, I wouldn't bother with that. That would be too much work. But Google Play Music, you could upload it to your own private cloud. I don't know if that works anymore. But yeah, I remember that. So I had like two songs that weren't available on Google Play Music, one of which I actually bought on iTunes

because it was the only place I could find it. And the other one, I think I ended up finding a download for it on a pirate site because it wasn't available on any streaming service. So I was just like, well, okay then. This is the only actual way I can get it. That's how it's, well, I could have bought the CD and I could have ripped. I could have ripped the file, but I was not going to buy a whole album for one song.

And I believe those songs are now on YouTube Music, and so I no longer actively do that. But I can tell you if something disappeared from my playlist, that would be the first thing I would do because I'm not interested. As for movies, I think I just kind of recognize the data delivery challenges with having an on-demand, just like instant Blu-ray stream. Doing the same quality as a Blu-ray. And you know what's really interesting

is we've talked about this already on the show, but I'm seeing that discourse start to gain traction. People are putting the hats on, dude. Like, hey, oh no, I don't mean that. Oh, I mean that. I mean, I'm seeing people start to recognize how crappy netflix looks oh yeah and like as there was a whole thread i i saw recently

of somebody who bought a blu-ray as like almost a joke and then they watched it at home and they were like uh i'm going back yeah yeah because it looks like garbage yeah well no it looks amazing no i mean netflix looks like garbage by comparison and nothing against netflix they are it's a technological marvel honestly i mean that yeah but it's there's there's just limitations 4k is not 4k in all situations 1080p is not 1080p yeah there's more factors than that yeah and blu-ray looks really really good especially the like 4k uhd blu-rays man i watched alien for the first time uh i have did i talk about this on when show before i'm not sure i i finally watched it right before ces i had never seen alien before and i watched it on that tcl tv i watched a blu-ray it was incredible it looked so good i i just i don't think i could watch i don't think i would

even want to watch a movie like that streamed from netflix like the the the ambience of it it's gorgeous it's yeah yeah it's amazing spectacularly i had managed to avoid almost all spoilers for it too like i just i got to watch it with fresh eyes it's kind of fun i don't think this increases convenience at all though like this this isn't coming back to you no this isn't gamers going from discs to to streaming services this is completely different no and hold on a second because there is more that mr trombley said he said part of that is gamers feeling secure in the knowledge that they won't lose their progress that their files won't be deleted and that they won't lose what they've built in the game. And there's the problem.

They will. Yeah. They do. Yeah. Here, hold on. From Ubisoft. This has happened. Hold on.

Servers, let's look. Okay, here it is. Ubisoft shutting down. Hold on. Decommissioning of online services for all the games. Okay, here, here, here, here, here. Here's a post from Ubisoft shutting down. Hold on. Decommissioning of online services for older games. Okay, here, here, here, here, here. Here's a post from Ubisoft. Okay, so Assassin's Creed 2 is no longer available. Let's find something.

Okay, Anno 1404. Wait, hold on. If you've pre... You will see. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What am I looking at online services for older like yeah okay so online services are closed for these games and 014 04 america's army uh that was only on xbox that one a bunch of assassins creed games uh were retired

between 2014 and 2022 beyond good and evil um far cry 2 shut down man actually a lot of far cries uh far cry 3 the 2012 release so for 10 years for 10 years 10 years is a long time 10 years is long enough that you could be 16 when you play this game and you could be 26 by the time they shut it down but here's the problem with that what if you're 26, 27, and you're like, oh yeah, I want to go experience that the way that I originally experienced it. Well, good luck with that.

That game might have aged kind of rough, but lots of games don't, to be honest. Yeah, like what about- When did Civ V come out? What about Just Dance 3 Kids? Okay, probably not a good example. Civ V came out in 2010, so it's over a decade old. Yep. I play it every once in a while still yep that's not even nostalgia glasses and you know what i mean when

i was talking about how i was comfortable with this whole uh subscription service thing for music yeah that is a big part of why i'm comfortable with it because over time the quality of the library has improved not gotten worse although i have a lot that i could say about the youtube music i was just gonna say the app got a lot worse the app got youtube music is spectacularly worse rash compared to google play music if they just brought back the google play music app so much better i would just i would i used to be like evangelical about it like people talk about how shopify was so great and i'd be like you have i think you mean spotify sorry you have not heard of the google play music let me show you the ways yeah uh did i mention it comes with youtube

premium yeah and then they trashed it and i was like well i'm never showing this off again because i'm happy it comes for free with premium i will not pay for two just like you said yep but it's a lot worse than spotify so it is what it is um so yeah a big part of why i'm comfortable with it is that convenience and and trusting that the service is going to continue to exist and also that if it doesn't then i could just jump ship to spotify yeah or i don't know like title title somewhere there's a few uh apple apple music i could just i could just jump to something else whereas with ubisoft well okay a these games are their own games on their own platform um so i if for whatever reason i don't

like what they're doing with the platform there is no competition that i could jump to whether it's you know price increases or or cutting the library or whatever else it is and i don't trust that those things are going to be maintained there's no reason to trust that all of the precedent has been that they won't be so like like very extensive precedent from a huge multitude of companies has been that it won't be our discussion question is what would it take for you to trust a company that has this kind of power over your gaming library and i think we both know the answer no oh okay well i know the answer i want a commitment in writing that if any online services are to be terminated that they will be either open sourced or there will be a good faith effort to negotiate with the gaming community to hand over the tools

to continue that service uninterrupted i just don't think it's ever going to happen well i didn't say look i didn't say it was realistic i just said yeah that is right though i do agree that's what it would take for me to trust them to just be like yeah it's all subscription now you you own nothing with that said it's not like it's really any different if you buy it you're still just renting it with that said it's not like it's really any different if you buy it you're still just renting it not always it must be the online services you are because they can just shut them down at their discretion yeah but if they did sign that thing well then i'd be fine with that too but yeah i just mean it's not an option in either case our options right now are to give them all our money

up front or to give them our money over time to not give them all our money ever is that today that's this month wow you know what i will say though i really wow i hold on can you go back to that for a sec this really bothers me so from here look at the y-axis on this chart yeah yeah okay so that's good go to the one month one i hate that yeah this should be one is that we start zero should be zero yeah i um there's there's an app that i use for monitoring stock prices not because i own stocks but just because it's interesting i i follow the tech industry and if i'm not paying attention to you know who's wow amd is

remember that computex video i made where i was like you should invest in AMD by the way this is not financial advice or whatever anyone who invested in AMD at that point I think that it's like it's like a four bagger now or something like that anyway the point is I do pay attention to it and one of the things that I I don't do this very often but I noticed that I didn't like about the app and I actually went out of my way to message the developer of the app and ask, hey, I don't happen to be a paying customer of yours because I don't need any of your premium features because I'm just a looky-loo,

but I would love to be able to fix the bottom of the Y-axis at zero because otherwise it makes the swings in value look enormous when in some cases they actually aren't that large to some investors they might want to see that view though because might be trading on that level so that's valuable sure fair enough but but on that level you also need to be able to see can still be distorted because the thing is that not all stocks uh have a price that is directly comparable like depending on how many times it's been split for example totally so you could have a stock that's priced at six hundred dollars and it could have fluctuated from

580 to 610 and it could look like this giant line and then you could have another stock that's priced at around 70 and went from 30 to 70 and it looks like that same line but that's actually a really big difference yeah and they were like nah my big thing here okay is actually this that's what i was looking at negative 15.72 year to date yikes that's the that's the like oh all right did anyone buy amd when i made that video someone in flowpoint chat said they made a killing on amd and nvidia eric r underscore c says it's more like 10 times when you made that video worksman o2 said my nvidia stock purchase is up 13,000%. Oh, 1,300%. He corrected it.

That's crazy. Bean710, I did. Just checked. Jonas, yes. Mad Powder, I'm up over 100%. I wanted to, but can't because work and stuff. Oh, man. But I was, yeah.

Oh man. All right. Yeah. I, I, I was, look, I think I made it clear at the time and I've made it clear since then. I am not a financial advisor. I am not an analyst or whatever, but I was looking at it back then going, dang, it's not so much that AMD's roadmap looks great. It does look great it's more that intel's roadmap looks like absolute doggy yeah and it's a duopoly people

are going to need processors people are going to need computers yeah yeah oh man Oh, man. J529 says, which stock should I buy right now? Brother, I want... No. No financial advice. No, I'm not giving any financial advice. Man, I can't believe what's been going on with NVIDIA lately. It's crazy. I mean, I shouldn't say I can't believe it.

I do believe it it it makes sense because they are a money printing machine basically every wafer that they can possibly get from tsmc what what was it rumored facebook was buying billions billions of gpus for their ai endeavors if i remember correctly google passed uh their salary expenditure on hardware really i i remember let me try to find this that's insane meanwhile twitch chat would you recommend i invest my money in cs2 weapon skins yeah i mean honestly maybe i don't know i don't know anything about that but Would you recommend I invest my money in CS2 weapon skins? Yeah. I mean, honestly, maybe. I don't know anything about that.

Yeah. November 24th, Google reportedly now spending more on computer power than people. Yeah. Expect that to be a trend that continues. Yeah. It's kind of scary. Yeah. Oh, man.

Hold on. I was going to say something. Oh, shoot. No. Yeah. Yeah. I left it. Hey, do you remember when we had that private conversation where I was like, I really liked the direction Intel's going. If I was a stock buying person, I would buy Intel. And I think it was, i think it was with you you told me hey i know someone who knows something about something and they're like no no no no man until it's like way up since then when would this have been uh like over a year ago it was a while back basically it was around the time that pat gelsinger took over oh i don't remember this at all yeah okay yeah that's fine um yeah the point is point is they are on a very different trajectory

than they were. And I think the argument of that person was something, something, ARM, something, something, data center, something, something. And I was like, yeah, but I don't think you've really understood his vision for the company. His vision for the company is to continue to be Intel and also to be TSMC.

Which is a pretty big deal. which is kind of a big deal so in the last uh like if nvidia is making big fat stacks so is tsmc yep and then by intel's logic so should they yeah to be clear i'm not saying to do that today i i have no idea you know if it will continue on the trajectory that it's on and that would be a much longer term play. I think a lot of people stock more like gambling, like they're expecting a payoff in six months or three months or a month or a day. There's this whole thing where like current generation sees effective forms of gambling is the only way to make it.

So like, yeah, that kind of checks out man i was i read this interesting article about how there's pretty much a generation of people now for whom competing and winning in a mr beast challenge seems like a more realistic way to change their situation in life than hard work because hard work is just not effective yeah and it's like this is why i said what i said um back when jimmy was facing a bunch of backlash for something stupid i can't remember what it was where i was just like yeah he's young he's like he's gonna make mistakes like i i told him beast burger was a mistake flat out i was like dude no um and he figured it out eventually so good on him for that like he he makes mistakes

but i think i i said i think his heart's in the right place i think i think jimmy donaldson for president i think he no i stop i think he cares about helping people and i think that i think that he's the kind of person who looks at a resource like money and goes well yeah but like couldn't we just use this really effectively to make people's lives better and he's doing it on a really really small scale that you know you can you can talk all day about, you know, image sanitization with philanthropy or like, you know, the corruptness of donations and blah, blah, blah. You can kind of attack from any different angle. I don't know him at all. I think he would struggle really hard with the overpowering amount

of corruption that there is in governmental systems i won't even say american governmental systems i'm just gonna say governmental systems in general yeah i think that's very like let's use our money in this way yeah and then you have to go through the armies of people that are in between you and that actual spend that are going to try to take all their own cuts that are going to try to scam it in whatever various way like all these there's a lot more war right now than there has been over the last while in general just all around the world um and something that keeps cropping up every time one of these countries gets into a war-like situation is like wow the generals for all these various companies were really scamming the whole country really hard this whole time um for the generals for the companies countries countries yeah like if i

remember correctly it was like uh i don't actually want to get into details but like yeah it's this it's this whole billions and billions of dollars from multiple different countries not not just like it's it's yeah it's really bad yeah i think you're referring to a situation where there was some country whose military on paper was a lot better than it ended up being based on how much money they were spending on it because there was a lot of misappropriation of funds there's also multiple countries that this has happened to and it's like oh yeah turns out it's like pretty much all of them was it you who was telling me that like the the u.s military pays hundreds of dollars for garbage

cans or something like that oh no it was it was way more than hundreds of dollars um is it was it garbage cans it was a garbage can yeah okay i thought it was 30 grand shut up no trash can hold on no stop the pentagon's 52 000 trash can okay here we go i'm going to your laptop uh sure yeah okay it's on y combinator where does this responsible state craft hold on i think that was the top link yeah military spending record highs and contractors hiked at the cost of relatively simple items i love that cute little dollar tank oh man um so in 2020 the pentagon paid boeing over two hundred thousand dollars for four trash cans yeah okay yeah this is it when the 707 fell out of use in the united

states the trash can was no longer a commercial item, meaning Boeing was not obligated to keep its price at previous levels, according to the weapons industry. So the trash cans became roughly $51,606 per unit. The company charged $36,640 each for 11 trash containers,

resulting in a total cost of more than 400 grand and how much is a bandaid at a hospital yeah that stuff is rough too okay okay hear me out Jimmy Donaldson running mate

the ghost of Bernie Sanders cause he'll probably be dead by the time jimmy's i was like what's happening no did that happen no no no not i just i i think the biggest like reform that could happen in a lot of countries right now is like getting scams like this out of government spending because you look around and you're like there's a lot of taxes all the time you know it's just everything gets taxed a lot all the time what does that go into and it's like genuinely hard to figure out and then you read stuff like this and it's like oh cool i mean that boeing executive has to wipe his ass with money somehow yeah yeah i guess right yeah meanwhile twitch chat's takeaway here is i'm hearing invest in mr beast

never change twitch chat yeah yeah yeah love you guys um yeah so uh things are frustrating and stuff okay and you don't own games anymore well got him all right second topic did you want to pick one uh yeah i i i i hate to bring them up actually i don't at all i love it but i'm gonna do it anyways um bg3 has spoken out against this um boulders gate three i mean larian in studios oh okay sven himself specifically i hope i'm saying that right um sven's a pretty common name uh let me try to find the tweet i'm hearing invest in trash can manufacturing um okay oh it's doing that thing where it's serving me all the tweets out of order because i'm not logged in nice i'm logged in i think ubisoft subscription not okay to its credit

typing x.com legitimately is faster than typing twitter.com oh cool i'm never gonna remember that i can't find it i think i can find it through my phone hold on is this brian adams and taylor swift no way yeah so sven sven said uh whatever the future of games looks like content will always be king it's going to be a lot harder to get good content if subscription becomes the dominant model and a select group gets to decide what goes to market and what does not direct from developer to players is the way. Getting a board to okay a project fueled by idealism is almost impossible and idealism needs room to exist even if it can lead to disaster. Subscription models will always end up being a cost-benefit analysis exercise intended to maximize profit.

There's nothing wrong with that but it may not become a monopoly of subscription services. We are already all dependent on a select group of digital distribution platforms and discoverability is brutal should these platforms all switch to subscription it'll become savage in such a world by definition the preference of the subscription service will determine what games get made trust me you really don't want that tldr you won't find our games on a subscription service even if i respect that for many developers it presents an opportunity to make their game i don't have an issue with that i just want to make sure the other ecosystems don't die because it's valuable what a chad move we will not do this this thing sucks we want to build our games in the idealized way that we want to build them.

Sick. They just keep doing cool stuff, man. Ah, so cool. I don't know. I just wish they made games other than that. Yeah. Because I kind of couldn't get into it. I can understand that.

But they're, yeah. I mean, that's fair. It's just not really your style of game, which is fair. But it's still a fantastic game. I'm going to'm gonna take another run at it i'll take another run play it with yourself or like with me or something it's it's a huge time commitment it is huge and like it's a big deal and like if you really want to enjoy it, a lot of it's like... Okay, even the game that shall not be named. Yeah. The amount of like places and mechanics and the controls and stuff. If you play a game for one hour and then like, I mean a new game, like a modern game where it's not just like the tutorial is here's how to wasd control for

crouch mouse to look like play a modern a modern game that in a genre that you don't normally play okay play it for one hour you won't even probably hard for some of these nerds you won't probably even be through the tutorial go away don't touch it for two weeks yeah come back play another hour there can be some learning curve go away don't touch it for two weeks i kind of come back and play another hour how do you it's so hard to get into it yeah yeah i i don't want them to to like weaken it though to be completely no i get it yeah i get it it's it's a hardcore game for hardcore gamers yeah 100 it's really really deep and they have a lot of systems going on so there's going to be some level of complexity i don't think it's too bad though and i'm i'm

actually kind of like wondering what you got hung up on um because like there wasn't a large learning curve for original sin for me and, or divinity and you played divinity and had no problems with it. So like I, well, I, I mean, I was just kind of tagging along with you.

Like it was, that was the, that was the tutorial. We were just talking to people and like I played dragon age. Yeah. I don't know. I think a big part of it might have been because i was playing with um a non-gamer this is what i'm saying i know i get i get it i get it i get it

so on the one hand we were going extremely slow sometimes and on the other hand we were like blitzing through areas that are just like you know you you're like my gamer sense is tingling i should be doing this thing we need to talk to these people yeah uh wow this is a really non-methodical way of going through this settlement that is clearly designed to be walked through this way you know like that yeah yeah yeah yeah that's part of it but also i i just i look at that game i see it in my library, and it looks like I am going to spend at least 30% of this gaming session googling controls, trying to remember what was happening last time, trying to figure out where the crap I am, and honestly, I'd rather just shoot some heads in Halo. See, like, yeah, I can't, like, tell tell you you're wrong but i feel like something's because of the power dynamic in our relationship because that's that's what people will assume

no because you're afraid to speak truth to power oh my god no it's just like you can tell from his body language you can't tell someone who's like i'm having a hard time with this he actually fears me we spent like the entire video we were filming before this just trashing on each other so yeah you you can't like tell someone who's like this is difficult for me that they're wrong but i do i'm wondering if there's like something in particular that you're hitching on that i could just solve for you and then it would be over they said to blink if you need help oh my goodness um yeah it's nothing in particular i you know what okay all right all right all right all right i'll play it you don't have you don't like look i i'm a man of my word i i watched pirates of silicon valley i watched that other stupid crappy movie uh what was the third thing that i said i

would do i played through the campaign of titanfall 2 that was good i committed i committed and i did them and i mean you know you don't seem to feel the same way about your commitments oh my goodness my computer cannot run the game stalling out i will i will yeah it's soon sure i mean theoretically i'm getting that other one yeah that esper can save itself oh my goodness oh my goodness i actually really want to play it i have the you let me that controller it's sitting right next to my mousepad because i like want to play it but i just i can't i found out he was playing on a keyboard and i was like brother i got really good at the whatever um yeah i got actually very good at the combo yeah well like i emma asked me what i was doing one time because i was playing it i was like going so fast and she's like what's happening i was like i just memorized all the inputs don't tell him it's a lot easier on a

keyboard it is actually way easier on a keyboard so it's time to actually have to deal with occasionally inputting a combo incorrectly which i feel like is actually correct because the reason why it's easier on a keyboard is because it's like broken and the reason he's so powerful is because there's a chance to enter the combo wrong yeah and you're trying to go quickly because you have to get to the next action input like i want to play it properly like when i'm when you're doing it on a keyboard it's like okay you go left and then angled left and then down you you actually just go left down down because there's no angled left so i i don't know if it takes left or down you can also just roll them

or at least that was true in emulators i i my first time beating that game was not on my snes with my cartridge because i lost my super nintendo when i moved to my mom's house i never i never got it back i have no idea whatever happened to that super nintendo so um as a kid i got stuck on the floating continent every time and i stop i know this won't be a spoiler okay and i didn't know that you can cast magic outside of battle okay yeah so there's a particular dungeon. That's rough. At a particular stage in the game when potions are like, a little bit of health, a little bit of health, and you could only hold 99 of any particular item in your inventory. So I would make it halfway through this stupid dungeon and run out of potions

because I didn't know I could just cast cure outside of battle. And I eventually had the older sibling of one of my friends like help me with it. Like, can you pass this for me? And my jaw just about hit the floor. The second he cast out of battle? The second they opened up the skills menu. Because then you're like, oh, I could have obviously done this.

Yes. I haven't found it like particular. The town I'm in right now is the hardest by a massive amount yeah yeah everything else been honestly pretty easy um what are we talking about right now not a clue boulders great gate three i oh because they freudian slip boulders great three it is yeah no water only water can get through they they were looked at a little bit weird for not like joining game pass and doing oh great oh that's really good

it took me i was trying to continue the topics i didn't like try to even bother understand what it was um they were questioned a little bit as far as my understanding goes for not joining like game pass and stuff like that so i already knew they kind of had this stance but to reaffirm the stance in the light of this i think is very cool because i think it's pretty important and i think in my opinion the quality of shows and tv and movies and stuff has maybe been dampened a little bit by the subscription model um and i strongly agree with what he was saying about how that would happen to gaming because what's going to get funding is whatever can sell predictably yeah or whatever will will will be able to be played for many hours. Retain subscribers on the subscription model. Yep.

So things like daily login rewards and stuff that keep people wanting to stay subscribed is going to be the things that get, you know, allowed to be made. So that's not fun. I don't like that. Cool. All right.

Dan, did we ever do a second topic? What was it? That was Ubisoft says gaming subscriptions require gamers to not own games. No, that was the first topic. Wasn't your second topic the BG3 one? No, that's not it. That's a continuation. That's not a topic.

So no, we never did a second topic. Okay, well, let's talk about the SSD shortage that's not that's a that's not a topic so no we never did a second okay well let's talk about the ssd shortage that's expected this is not financial advice but buy lots of ssds there's your next investment don't don't actually don't that's a sell them on the street i i i i know they say it's non-volatile where's my ding but don't do that uh prices of high capacity ssds are projected to spike by 15 to 20 percent due to a shortage of four and eight dynand packages while some of this price increase is already hitting retail it may be two to three months before the impact of these supply shortages hit consumers fully it is possible that this is a downline consequence of makers of 3d nand cutting production due to previously low demand notably 2023 was a no good very bad year for sales of

electronics however some oems have significantly scaled up their purchases of SSDs as of this quarter, meaning that, well, low supply, high demand. What happened to pricey? He go up. Our discussion question, how should users looking for an SSD deal with these kinds of shortages? I would say that if you're on the fence, I would probably pick up an SSD now. you're on the fence um i would probably pick up an ssd now but understand that overall price for in general price goes down price for um price per capacity price for nan storage yeah generally go down so i i would not actually recommend it as an investment yeah but if you're like i've been thinking about getting one and you

feel like you probably will within the next x amount of months maybe do it sooner than later speaking of investments it's time to find out how much i made on my lego roller coaster what oh nothing what okay it's apparently still worth exactly what it was when uh when i bought it i don't understand what's happening well lego retired sets can do really well oh okay yeah so you bought one right before it retired well i bought one of these like three years ago we only just finally finished building it because we lost a couple of pieces in the move but well we lost a couple pieces before the move and then it was exacerbated by the move anyway we finally it's so cool this thing is so cool the cats love it

like he's just the things actually like roll yeah it has a yeah it has a it has two trains or cars or whatever whatever they're called it goes do the cats just like watch it they watch it sometimes they bat at it they brownie in particular freaking loves it i'll you just you just sit there and it's so fun i'm watching him he's watching the coaster and i'm just turning the crank like moving the bringing the cars up to the top and he's just like like what he's like so into it like sometimes he like goes at the mechanism for the uh for the track that drags the uh the trains i guess what the heck are they what's the word for that carts trains whatever trains uh drags the trains up the hill and then sometimes he like it's like he goes and he like stops it on the track

it's great i love it so much fun um i don't know maybe in another 10 years the vehicle is called the train all right good but yeah lego lego retired kits can be uh can be a very strong investment i think that just collecting hobbyist crap would be a really fun hobby slash investment do you think ip based ones would probably do better than like roller coaster it like there was like the office set i feel like that might do pretty well i don't know man i don't know what i don't know if the office is gonna be maybe not the office maybe maybe there's some like i would say the kid ones are the stronger ones yeah so kid today nostalgia tomorrow yeah i don't think you're gonna have the same kind of nostalgia for a michael scott

lego figurine necessarily but then you never know because a big part of what makes something collectible is how many they sold and maybe the office set was not particularly popular or maybe it was i actually just don't know uh but no i i would say the big ones are going to be the ones that are the hotness for kids right now there was a 3500 pokemon card for sale like it was insane uh if you think that's insane you should look up pokemon cards for sale that doesn't even sound very high z biggie you can't use it linus that completely destroys the value all right well i'm over it i i i'm having my like 500 worth of fun with it for sure my kids are my kids are enjoying it a ton i i am i am very anti collect

it and put it on a shelf and never look at it and make sure it doesn't have too much light and never touch it and never do anything with it i'm not i'm not into that i don't like it yeah all of luke's collectibles are digital he's big into nfts i was like huh man remember nfts yeah good riddance to bad rubbish oh my i honestly okay when i found out how much the value of the like first tweet nft had gone down it was like a couple hundred dollars a part of me was like yeah sure you know like i like i i the the idea of that it had been worth so much and that i bought it for so little was kind of amusing which is funny yeah and i was like i i would consider buying a couple of nfts for like 30 or whatever like at this stage in the game

i didn't end up buying any because it seemed like it's just a lot of work dumb you're literally just like i could burn a hundred dollars or a couple hundred dollars or whatever yeah there's no actual value i i you you've heard me give my spiel to my kids now right multiple times yeah every single time we play halo really no yeah i don't think so uh okay fine then you should probably be able to recite it oh man i don't really pay attention remember we don't do that we do if you if you can't earn it whatever something see it clearly hasn't sunk in okay i'll have to do it more often you can't earn it, whatever, something. See, it clearly hasn't sunk in. Okay, I'll have to do it more often for you.

Well, I don't need it. It's always in the form of a question. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Do we spend money on things that we can't touch or even own? No. No.

Okay. Is that a smart thing to do? No. Why not? You know, like, yeah. Like, it's a whole thing. It's good. It's a whole thing to do no why not you know like yeah like like it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole thing it's good it's a whole thing good i don't even i think it gets in my personal opinion i think it gets a little bit nuanced sometimes because i look at like how much value

i got out of the thing sure like i think i've talked about this before but i bought some seasons passes for rocket league and i think that was a good thing to do because i got the game on some insane sale for like five bucks and then i played the heck out of that game so it like felt correct to contribute more to the thing yeah that's totally i didn't do it because i was like oh my god i want my skin to my car and then psionics got bought by epic games yeah yeah so i guess that worked out great for you well i mean psionics got more money or the valuation was potentially worth more whatever whatever like i'm still fine with it yeah now you can't buy rocket league on steam so good job luke i still have it on steam it's entirely your fault i didn't take it off of steam if you already had it well yeah but like okay not my son wanted to get rocket league it's like yo how do i get rocket league i'm

like well didn't you already have it yeah but he doesn't use my account anymore oh yeah he has his own account now and i was like okay you know we guess we could put epic gamestar on the computers and then i like explained how i didn't really want to have like a bazillion launchers on these things and he was like oh yeah forget it then good kid yeah yeah uh no you do not have to have epic installed to play rocket league on steam i didn't think so not not the last time i did it it's been quite a while i haven't played no you do not okay yeah no you don't um all right we're supposed to explain and do two merch messages but before we we can do that, I finally have done it.

What? Hold on, I'm just heading to linustechtips.com. Oh. Oh, hold on a second. See if I can find something. Here we go, here we go. Wait, linustechtips.com? Here we go, here we go, here we go. Oh, I see. tips.com here we go here we go here we go oh i see i have changed you changed it everywhere my profile picture

big change i know revisionist history what no that's not revisionist history i'm being erased would you like to know why i did such a thing yes thank you for playing along for a change you are such a butthead about this stuff sometimes i know the answer i know the answer i don't need the setup it's here ladies and gentlemen we have named this latest garment that you, uh, were noticing earlier on in the show. Oh, I've been like sweating in here wearing that stupid hoodie over top of this

thing. Yeah. We're calling it the Steve. It looks pretty good. Of course it does. It's a T store. Yeah. What are you talking about?

Yeah. Um, it's not just any turtleneck. Okay. it's a t-store yeah what are you talking about yeah um it's not just any turtleneck okay the steve is a mock neck with a seam up the middle like the iconic mock neck that the one and only mr steve jobs famously wore oh yeah it's a whole thing some designer was like oh yeah that's really important to have that seam up the middle. It has a little MAC address logo. Yeah.

Yeah. I like that it's not like a crazy, it's not like super tall. Yeah, it's a mock neck. It's got a little bit, oh, I didn't know that. But look at this. I mean, how cool. It looks professional. Horse posing with the iMac.

Oh, I love it. This is a great photo shoot. Oh no, Windows. I enjoy that. That's fun. Uh, yeah. So there it is. Very subtle, but it's there. This is great, man. Everyone really got into the whole props thing with this shoot. Yeah. Ariana from HR. Oh wow. We've got a lot of people participating in the shoot this time that's the last one nice anyway so i i have finally i have finally updated my profile picture

maria took this for me today during the shoot i think i probably could have gotten the facial expression a little bit better you know i think like i think i should have been down a little bit more and like i don't know but i it we we did we did it pretty quick and realistically it looks better than the old one so i think that original picture that i took that was a still from an old episode of net linked which was the news uh like roundup that we did still are you sure ncix tech tips yeah it was it was a still from a video where i borrowed billy from rma's glasses and i forget why i was doing like a steve jobs pose but it had something to do probably with the news that week and the video started zoomed in on me and then zoomed all the way out and i like break character completely you know what's funny is that picture has actually

been a source of controversy over the years i have seen on not one not two but many occasions people criticize me for having that like steve jobs pose profile picture because it illustrates that i have some kind of messiah complex and believe that i am an innovator on the level of mr jobs what the f are you talking about it's just a funny picture is meme is meme is okay yeah uh anyway we uh but i thought i took the picture but i guess it was just netlinked so i was probably pressed record once yeah so we we put we put probably way too much work into this garment it's been in development for over a year it's really nice it looks nice yeah it's like it's super nice it's a little on the heavier side you know like it's um isn't that usually what a shirt like that would be though that makes sense yeah but it's but it means it's a completely different garment right like we couldn't we

couldn't just use material nope we couldn't use previous materials we couldn't use our previous patterns because it has a very different neck uh so get getting stupid neck right without it like punching up or whatever like we went oh my god we went through so many samples um getting getting the look right so we what we discovered is that the fit of the original was very boxy not very modern so we moderned up the fit a little bit but without losing too much of kind of the original look um yeah it's i don't know it's it's a really cool shirt and uh as it turns out it's really hard to obtain if you want to get one of the originals, it was like some Japanese designer of some sort. The fashion team knows way more about it than I do.

And if you want one of these, they're like hundreds of dollars. So ours is, I don't remember how much ours is. Yeah, you can see it. I had no idea there was that middle seam. Yeah, here's the laptop. But it's hard to see in this photo.

It's probably not even going to open. Yeah. It's there though. You can technically see it. Yeah, it's a's hard to see in this photo it's probably not even going to open yeah it's there though you can you can technically see it yeah that's a it's a fashion seam sure it keeps all the fashion in nice that's good it's very important so it's 25 bucks apparently oh okay that seems pretty reasonable we also have tall sizes really no way yeah way apparently i'm getting a mock neck yeah way brother so that's another thing is we uh we finally did tall sizing i mean how are we going to have mr jonathan horst promote this product being that makes sense six four that makes sense

and we're not going to not make one that fits me, dang it, because I am an innovator on the same level as Mr. Jobs. Otherwise, why would I pose like this in a silly profile picture? Because your profile picture on a forum is to be taken 100% seriously. I don't think the size guide has tall. Oh, really? Oh. Yeah, it does. Where? I don't know maybe here tall you good oh what is the oh the top category doesn't have a

section title okay i understand cool see you later there's body length in the top ones with i guess anyway the point is that we are about to talk to you about merch messages all you got to do to interact with the show is send a merch message in the checkout there will be a little box whenever we're live you can send a merch message it'll go to producer dan oh nice sweater dan it's not from ltd store though so i'm sorry i'm gonna have to cut your feed. It'll go to Producer Dan, where he will either forward it to someone who can address it, answer it himself, or curate it for me and Luke to address later on the show.

To show you guys how that works, he's going to give you a couple curated merch messages right now. Hit me, Dan. Sure thing. Hi, DLL. Many of my peers are very pessimistic about the tech industry many layoffs too much ai etc where do you think the tech industry is going and how do you deal with pessimism in general layoffs and ai and then ai leading to more layoffs and layoffs necessitating

more ai okay no no hold on hold on how do i deal with pessimism bad linus dad um i mean we're still hiring yeah i mean a lot of places that are doing these layoffs still have job postings um a lot of the layoffs are not just in dev yeah that's true a significant amount of the layoffs are not dev. They're from tech industry, but tech industry has a very high population of like sales and admin staff and marketing and all this other stuff as well. Community management.

Things that are not necessarily tech, even if they are necessary appendages of an organization. Yeah. I don't know. There's still... There was like this metric in a lot of like Fang and Silicon Valley companies for a while for a lot of managers

where a key performance indicator of that manager was how much they could swell their head count, how much they could hire effectively. And as far as my understanding goes, this is all just hearsay. So I have no idea. But as far as my understanding goes, that being a metric is not popular anymore because money is not as easily accessible anymore. So there was kind of a strategy where if you increase your headcount that means it's going to be harder for other companies to get that talent um however talented that talent is um and the headcount strategy has stopped being a thing money's harder to get all that type of stuff so they're trying to reduce head count but they're doing so by these like big

cuts which you know are are not going to be able to be 100 accurate so um some great people are going to get cut out um some not great people are going to get cut out who knows when you're cutting a thousand people at once bad things are going to happen um So it sucks. It's bad, but it like the, the jobs are easy to get and you will have a job at whatever enormous company forever era is probably kind of over, but it doesn't mean there isn't a job market anymore. AI is helping developers. Sure.

It's also helping tons of other industries and it's not replacing developers, or at least it's not replacing developers or at least it's not replacing like senior developers and they're going to need senior developers somehow so yeah gregory h asked a similar question uh first time merch message i'm studying comp sci with all the layoffs do you think that the field is too inflated and i think you probably addressed that um pretty well at this point i mean yeah there's still jobs out there if you're good there's always a job um if you are willing to learn and cross train there's always a job for you it's not like these companies aren't still making a lot of money yeah oh yeah in some cases

record profits yeah which is why i keep i keep bringing it back to this strategy thing um and a lot of them are still hiring handyman in philip lane chat said oh amazon used to hire um sdes in 2020 to 2021 with one 30 minute interview which is like whoa interesting we're more thorough than that go team yeah so it's just it's not going to be like that anymore um but i mean that's what a lot of industries are like you know not one 30 minute interview whatever else. It's going to get more competitive. It doesn't mean it's not there though. You still get a job.

All right, Dan. Howdy DLL podcast listener here. Enjoy the call out to Computer Chronicles a few weeks back. Which of your videos do you want to serve as a resource for future generations of techies? for future generations of techies oh i'd like to think that a lot of the archival content is going to unintentionally be a resource and in a in a what it was like back then kind of way i mean obviously we don't think about things that way when we're he's already like that when we're making these videos but we shot a video today uh reacting to our best builds as voted by the community and there was a ton of stuff that i forgot yeah a bunch of stuff that luke and jake had forgotten

about um things i just kind of haven't thought about in a long time like what a great benchmark the tomb raider reboot games were dude they just they scaled for years they scaled with everything yeah you know add a better cpu fps go up add a better gpu fps go up add a second gpu fps go up just like yeah sure i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not give me computer power but also running great yeah on you know pretty pedestrian gaming grade hardware man great games fantastically scaling um i'd like to think that how to build a pc the last guide you'll ever need is going to continue to be an extremely strong point of entry for people into the pc building and gaming pc gaming hobby it's uh it's at 10 million views now and going strong like every day it's on our top 10 viewed videos for

that day even though it was released like a year two years ago or something like that and i have a plan we are going to update it with like video replacement no because that's you can't do that oh that that's too much of a change you can't flip it well yeah sure got them let's go yeah super relevant video platform there good job hey man you're supposed to do the business model in marketing so that's on you yeah i just didn't have this mock neck yet oh there you go now i could there you go there you go mock neck yet oh there you go now i could there you go there you go it gives this gives me super powers uh sorry you gotta channel it yeah there you go power level over 9 000 thanks dan just in time our producer everyone

well he's got the belittling down. Okay, now I just need a completely curable cancer and then I need to treat it with vegetables. You could cure it with grape welches if we could find any. Oh, he got a few today. Oh, that's right. He separated them out. I did get a few today.

Okay, yeah, too soon maybe uh anywho uh what am i supposed to be talking about right oh yes so the plan we're gonna re-upload it oh right the video yes the how to build a pc the last guy you'll ever need because it was aspirational that title the last guy you'll ever need i mean that things are going to change as a computer industry i mean now we have motherboards with the connectors on the flipping back i was going to say yeah people are pushing for that yeah exactly so the plan is to is to leave that one up because it still has very good residual traffic basically label it 2022 you know replaced or you know put a link to the new one in the description and then we're going to take that project with all that super high quality footage and all the incredible amount of work that the team did. We're going to watch it through, make notes. Okay,

here's what we need to, here's what we need to update. Here's what probably might not be as relevant anymore. So here's what we can can, here's what we can add because of the way we shot it, which was not intentional at the time, but it's going to work out great with multiple hosts on multiple sets. We can just shoot new sections, drop the old B roll on top of the new a roll, get any new B roll we need. And with comparatively speaking, a relatively reasonable amount of work,

update it so that the last guide you'll ever need becomes an evolving piece of content i am i yeah i'm super excited one thing that we need to do more of though and that i realized how to build a pc the last guide you'll ever need doesn't address is like the little picky parts and one of our other 10 million view videos is the POV build guide. I need to just put a camera on my forehead again and do it again from time to time because that's a bit outdated now.

And there's a lot of things that are more easily understood from a first person perspective compared to from a first person perspective compared to, um, from a third person perspective. Oh, all right. Can do brother.

Do you want to jump into search engines are getting worse? He does, but he needs a second. Do i think so yeah it's like a passionate topic of yours okay uh refresh the page if you know you know cool all right um a recent study from researchers in germany have found that search results are getting worse across all search engines. The study followed product reviews, and this is something that I have noticed a lot. The quality of the results that I get when I'm trying to find information on a product has been atrocious, but that's just anecdotal, right? It's sample size of one. It's not a controlled experiment in any way well they controlled the experiment they followed product reviews on various search engines including google bing and duck duck go and found a consistent downward trend in the number and the quality of

relevant search results and they say this is due primarily to massive amounts of seo spam what's funny is that i thought that the issue was just advertising and to be clear advertising is a barrier that sits in the way of finding the information that you're actually trying to get but i didn't consider that the seo game is still very much alive and well and if anything greatly empowered by ai oh yeah so attempts to address this problem by google and others did have a measurable impact on the amount of spam and google's tactics outperformed its competitors but that effect was both minor and temporary according to lily ray a senior executive at digital marketing agency emcee digital we are currently experiencing some of the worst results he's seen in his entire career

in part because of an increased emphasis on user generated content and away from authoritative sources well that's because uh as as handyman and a couple other people have been saying in chat for a long time the best way to get results was to append reddit um but and i don't know why seo optimization took so long to figure this out to be honest it was kind of weird but they have since hijacked that as well or attempted to. It still works pretty well. But this has created a major opening for scammers and spammers. Yeah.

Our discussion question is, is there a way to fix this? Yeah. the only way to fix the quality of information in the written web is for there to be any money in creating quality content for the written web yeah and there isn't no the money is in just crapping out ai generated listicles of just you should buy doing all the same amount of work that you would have to do for something like a video potentially even more and making it written there's no written article that is more work than a video form of the same written article strong disagree i don't agree this will be an interesting conversation yeah what i'm trying to get at is that sometimes written articles will go deeper there was actually a long period of time where to go deeper on a subject,

you would go to the linked written article. Okay. So I should clarify. I did specifically say then a video form of the same thing. If it's the exact same content. Sure. Yeah. Okay.

Then we don't disagree. Yeah. Yeah. Very nice. Very good. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No i i'm just saying that i i find written articles will go further into things sure that yeah that's fair yeah so their

format differences do sometimes facilitate or do sometimes enable a deeper dive sure yeah uh but you're you're never going to make the same amount of money that you could with video because on-page ads just are worth like almost nothing. And to make it worth your time, you have to like do really anti-consumer, very annoying web things like refreshing the ads as you scroll and like inserting things and having things slide over the writing and all this crazy stuff, which is going to drive people ultimately away from your site or to ad blocking everything. So you're just going to make actually negative away from your site or to ad blocking everything so you're just going to make actually negative money because it costs you money for them to be on your

site and you made nothing off the ads so it's just like well i don't know some sites seem to be somewhat transitioning to a subscription model i've noticed a lot more paywalls and they wouldn't be popping up if they weren't working however um i think that there's only really room for a very small number of sites to succeed with a subscription model the donation model seems to be keeping wikipedia afloat but i think given the percentage of overall web traffic that is wikipedia you can't just look at you know what's working for wikipedia and say oh okay well why doesn't somebody else just do that and i don't know if this is right or not but wikipedia seems to be just kind of holding on not thriving i mean

are they i don't think they report their financials unless they do i think they talk about like how much run rate they have left and stuff every once in a while when they ask for financials unless they do i think they talk about like how much run rate they have left and stuff every once in a while when they ask for funding don't they uh they do report their financials full year financial statements audited by kpmg wicca media foundation here we go boys uh it's a lot of pages it's like 20 pages let me see if i can just find the the bottom line part um they have 75 million dollars in cash and cash equivalents so i think they're doing okay you don't know how much it costs um for a website that like basically everyone on the planet uses. I mean.

It is just text, but it's a lot. It's not just text. Their financial assets at the end of 2023 are $5 million greater than 2022. Okay. And that number is $196 million. So they seem to be doing okay. Why do they ask for so much all the time? Well, come on Wikipedia.

They only made $5 million, but they do seem to have a fair bit of cash. Is that just profit or is that their revenue? Um, that's, I don't know if you call it revenue. This seems to be, no,

this is liquidity and availability of financial assets so i'm not looking at revenue or profit or anything like that they spent is this right 69 million dollars on salaries and benefits like am i reading this wrong help me out guys is that is that what i'm looking at salaries and benefits that is 69 million dollars right like i'm not i'm not developers do be expensive i mean yeah fair enough awards and grants uh donation processing expenses six million dollars yeah that's what uh that's what a bunch of three dollar donations will do for you yeah um travel and conferences they spent 800 grand on that i don't know how many people work there though so it's possible these numbers aren't as outlandish as they might sound what travel

and conferences well i mean travel to conferences right but like 800 grand on that i mean i wonder how many like how many depends how many people yeah i have no idea truthfully for a site that i use as much as i do and for for a tech you know hold on they have 282 staff members and they're spending 70 million a year on salaries sounds like i should get a job with the comedian that's a wrong number in 2016 there was 280 employees in 2020 there was approximately 450 okay so it's going up a fair bit and that was four years ago they hold conferences for their community oh okay well that'll cost you yeah we know a thing

or two about that yeah that's real expensive yep i'm surprised it only cost that much oh man check out handyman he's a good link he always has good links what is this fundraising statistics oh oh look at that okay so they're trying to stay out ahead of what their costs will be. Black is their net assets. Green is their revenue. Red is their expenses. So they do beat their expenses, but it do be close sometimes.

It's pretty close, yeah. As you can see, they had a really good year in 2021. There's where that profit made its way into cash and cash equivalents so they're basically like okay we got this war chest and we we're gonna hold on to that but these years they like they didn't beat it by much no but this black number you want them to hold on to the war chest if you want wikipedia to stay existing i mean who knows when it's coming yeah you know when someone tries to go after them um i i fully support wikimedia sitting on you know a couple hundred million just in case isn't it like apple's trying to sue epic for 97 million dollars for legal fees or something

like it's uh apple sues epic i know epic apple's trying to uh 73 million dollars trying to go hard after that um that medical device company that um is going after them and has an injunction on like apple apple watch sales or whatever yeah like oh yeah they've spent a fortune taking it to apple on that and other other smaller companies have come out and been like thank you you know someone finally having the resources and the stones to just go toe-to-toe with apple and say hey you actually cannot f***ing do this this is not okay to just like set up an office down the street from someone you poach employees and not care about patents and ip and i'm not allegedly allegedly allegedly and i'm not saying even that apple is alleged to have done that particular thing in this particular case but it's a common

strategy that these giant tech companies do employ so that the people at that company don't even have to move you know they just go to the office of you know google or apple or facebook or whoever yeah yeah apple had required the lower courts don't know what that means to order epic games to pay 90 of apple's legal fees estimated at 73 million dollars he spent 73 million dollars in legal fee actually not that kind of makes sense yeah it adds up really fast it turns out yeah not a fan yeah all right dan hit me haha just kidding he's not there kidding dan you're good uh do we have another topic we want to talk about oh how about the ad block bug that was blamed but you know yeah i was ready to like go to war with youtube over them throttling the experience for i i basically i sent them an email before i was aware of the full

context for this that was basically like look guys you know as a as a youtube creator i am as supportive as anyone when it comes to you know monetizing the platform effectively as long as you guys continue to share with creators i mean i have some very different thoughts about the ads that they run on non-partner channels and then just keep 100 of the revenue from because that whole thing doesn't make a ton of sense to me but when it comes to monetizing the platform and sharing revenue with creators obviously i have a vested interest in that being successful however as i said as i laid out in my email this is clearly a step too far you can't interfere with the basic functionality of the platform for users who happen to have a

particular extension installed in their browser like that that is not... It's not even just the platform. Are you talking about the platform as the computing device? Yeah, it was increasing CPU usage. Well, when loading YouTube videos. Yeah. So they were like hitting the computer. Yeah, sure. Fair enough.

Yeah. So either way, I was like, look, I plan to talk about this this week. I hope... Oh, sorry. Are we playing footsie? I hope you have a very compelling statement um and then shortly after that it came out that um well whoops uh whoops last weekend users noticed an extreme slowdown for youtube videos whenever ad

block was enabled oddly even youtube premium users who happened to have Adblock installed were also affected. A test by PC Gamer found that CPU usage increased by 17% when loading YouTube videos with Adblock. While the slowdown was initially blamed on Google, so this is why I sent my original email. Oh, you did send it. I did, yeah, I sent it.

It turned out that users i did yeah i sent it it turned out that users of other ad blocking services weren't affected and the slowdown was also noticeable when loading videos on other websites ad block has since confirmed that this buffering problem was caused by a bug in its most recent update our discussion questions are twofold one should we be slower to assume malice in these kinds of cases man i don't know i just don't think i don't think google has earned the benefit of the doubt lately i mean there was the incognito mode thing there's the general war against adblock and how that's in general though people jump on things too fast sure i just i i think you're right i think that is correct

and i think that i think the second i think that luke's take is bad here and we should hate him yeah we should all hate him yeah go after me get them pitchforks yeah i think sometimes people it's it's the like a bit of evil it's that's their new company motto just just don't make it too much just do a little bit evil um but yeah i think sometimes it's it's the problem you know people read a headline without reading the article and then now they're at war and they don't even know what they're at war about um but they know they're supposed to hate somebody or something and it's just like oh my goodness um to be clear adblock is fixed now um so they they have since issued a patch but no the the issue was not in fact youtube. However, I don't know. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the ongoing development, I'm sure Adblock would be happy to update their extension

once every six months. What I suspect is that they are so frequently updating their extension because of mitigations that YouTube or google is attempting to put in place to prevent the service from working on the site so is it still google's fault or is google well within their rights to try to prevent the adblock extension from working on their platform yeah okay i don't know and like you you can be mad about that you can pitchfork that for sure you can do whatever you want but let's uh they're still allowed to do that i don't know by the way apparently um i i read the headline only today so i haven't looked at it yet i This is my first time looking at it.

Apparently, they have updated this. And other people who use this device won't see your activity. However, download bookmarks and reading list. Your activity might still be visible too. Okay, no, it still doesn't say us. Okay. Maybe you don't have the...

Yeah, maybe it hasn't been rolled out or maybe I don't have the latest update it hasn't been rolled out or maybe i don't have the latest update yeah um it's probably it's probably a it's probably a rolling thing but i i heard i heard that they are updating that message the canary warning replaces browse privately with browse more privately oh hold on oh well well is that what that said let's try it again new incognito window hello no mine still says now you can browse oh is one of their builds called canary is there google chrome canary oh that makes sense yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so that's um okay yeah so is that like i forgot about that yeah yeah okay makes sense see i'm more familiar with the firefox one so archangel of death points out that firefox got slowed down on youtube a popular fix

was using an agent switcher um that wasn't a bug in an ad blocker yeah fair enough um did we did we manage to prove that that was malicious? I, I, I heard about that one, but didn't dig into that. This is my thing. If you prove that it is go after him. I'm not saying don't go out. I see. I'm saying maybe, maybe look for three seconds before,

before you do so. Um, I don't know. I just, I think sometimes with, with no actual real knowledge, people will dive headfirst into hatred on something um never experienced that i don't know what you're talking and i think i think there is

plenty things that deserve the the full dive of hatred and you should go after them i think you've imagined this whole thing uh um but i just yeah i don know. I think people should be a little bit more careful. What are you even talking about? I don't even know how to respond to this. Fujitsu. Oh, wait, we should probably do our sponsors. Dan, are we, is it sponsor time? Is that what we're supposed to do? Yeah, there's a little complication with this one.

Oh, should we do the other two first? Should we wait? Should we do something else? Start with this one and then we'll go to your cam. What do you mean by this one? What? Sorry, the first oneication with this one. Oh, should we do the other two first? Should we wait? Should we do something else? Start with this one, and then we'll go to your cam. What do you mean by this one? What? Sorry, the first one. The first one, okay. Do the first one, and I'll go to your cam.

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now that it's not on my phone it's so much so much better going and touching grass is unironically an extremely good idea and you should do it sounds fake but okay it's not we man we need to do a chia pet we talked about this on our previous win show we need to do the touch grass genuinely think it would be cool just like a little square you can have on your desk yeah that would actually be great i would touch that yeah yeah yeah we could make it like kind of like you know techie like it could have orbeez in it so you only have to water it like once in a while you know it's a water retention and release just like you know like it's like super low game or grass game or grass yeah that really does that probably already exists and it's probably a really different product oh man yeah i was wondering what linus's favorite

or top motorcycling tech gadgets or mods are besides the backpack i've been looking for cool things to bring along with me while i'm out riding during the summer i am the basicest bitch um i uh my bike barely even has a digital speedometer on it it's a 2003 um i i do have an old pebble a pebble time that i that i hot glued a magnet onto the back of and then i have a magnet that i um that i also hot glued onto my motorbike so i can put it on there and then i have tactile buttons for changing uh changing media tracks and then i have speakers embedded in my headphones with just like a wire coming out and then i use my old note nine or at least i used to i mangled my headphone jack, I mean, I'm sure I can like fix it or whatever, but that would suck.

That phone has taken a serious beating. Yeah, I like, man, like three weeks ago, after I switched back to it after, oh no, in between Fairphone and Wing, I switched back to it temporarily. And I was like, man, I haven't listened to real headphones in a while. I grabbed my IE 600s that I still keep in my backpack,

just in case, plug them in. It was like, man, I haven't listened to real headphones in a while. I grabbed my IE 600s that I still keep in my backpack just in case, plugged them in, was like, I forgot what headphones are supposed to sound like, right? Right, AirPods Pro. They're good for wireless crappy headphones, but they sound like shit, right? Immediately, like got it snagged on something because I'm just not used to it anymore.

Like, yeah, one side works and it's it's not the headphones it's the it's the jack anyway where was i going with this right the point is um i'm gonna have to find it i'm gonna have to grab another old phone or a new phone that has a headphone jack or something and then that goes in my in my pocket and i just run it up through my thing i got my speakers not in-ears speakers and that's it that's that's all my motorcycle tech just so i can get my turn by turn and my music and so that i can change tracks and adjust volume so uh gamer grass or oh no gamers grass um i this is not an endorsement i don't know anything about this company um we

sort of love hugged their website without me even talking about it um it also it almost like completely stopped functioning but it seems to be working for you now this actually looks super cool so if you're into like miniatures that kind of gaming yeah if you're into miniatures and stuff or or i could i could absolutely see dnd groups even two millimeter tufts oh two millimeters tall yeah that makes way more sense i thought it was two millimeters square and i'm supposed to like assemble them you can also get bases so you're currently shopping for tufts so if you if you clicked on bases i'm a tough enthusiast you can don't shave that tuft. Oh my goodness.

Anyways, I think this is actually super cool. So no, we probably can't call it gamer's grass. But yeah, apparently there's other brands and stuff. Yeah, sure. I don't know. It's a laser plant. A laser plant? I don't know, oh man their site's real slow right yeah yeah we've got a lot of people on here right now i think all right cool it is not loading but yeah apparently that's already a thing all right i'm sure ploof knows about it probably yeah

no he's gotten super into miniatures what dan that's good for 40k as well yeah yeah you have miniatures for 40k yeah what do you think i was talking about yeah dan yeah dan what the heck dan dan why are you not even in the center of your camera dan oh boy Oh, boy. All right. Hit me, Dad. Sure. But not physically. You're too far away.

I'm not feeling it tonight. Come over here and I'll beat you. Hey, have you seen that a couple of small companies are making a 500-watt ATX GAN? I I think that I can't remember what that stands for. Some sort of nitride PSU. Gallium nitride. When do you think we will see a GAN PSU in mainstream do-it-yourself builds? Hold on.

500 watt GAN power supply? Why? Oh, for ITX builds. What, Luke? power supply why oh for for itx bills uh what light and float like chat said get off the gamer grass website mom said it's my turn to look hd plex these guys are awesome their products are super cool it makes a ton of sense that they would be using GAN. GAN basically allows you to shrink your power supply and it's super efficiency. It's efficient.

Oh my God, what am I even talking about? It makes it so you can build smaller, more efficient power supplies. Thank you. I have not personally looked into the electronics engineering reasons that that's possible, but I do know that it's a um super cool

tech and allows you to make super compact um very efficient power supplies so yeah this is a tiny 500 watt power supply look how small this is that's ridiculous um what it's not an ac power supply this is a dc to a to dc power supply is my understanding wait no way is this an ac power supply yeah shut up that's pretty wild wow there's more connectors plug if you keep scrolling there should be some yeah there you go wait shut up there you go that is bananas okay that's super cool um yeah hd plex super cool company they make super cool really compact silent sometimes power supplies they've done some dc to dc designs in the past which is what led me to believe that this was a dc to dc no this is a 500 watt ac to dc power

supply that is bananas anywho the point is that i don't think we're gonna see gan in a full-sized atx power supply anytime soon because they canAN in a full-sized ATX power supply anytime soon because they can already build a full-sized ATX power supply that can do 1600 watts in North America, which is the maximum that we can draw off of a single circuit. And they can already do a full-sized ATX power supply that'll do 2000 watts on 240 volt, which is the maximum. No, that's actually not the maximum you can do in Europe, but it's the maximum that you could reasonably build a computer with um anytime in the near future

never is a strong word as the prices come down you know maybe it'll actually be more efficient and more cost effective to build a gan power supply but for now it's a premium technology and not something that we're going to see anytime soon just because we don't really need it stop trying to make bananas happen i will not i will not stop dan hit me sure any updates on the laptop or shoulder bag would really like it for school as the backpack which is awesome is a little bulky for my load let me check Let me check. This gamer's craft stuff is really cool.

It took me about seven minutes to load the laser plants. Have you ever seen a static flocking machine? You put it in this charged chamber and it charges the base and you put your glue on it. And then you basically like basically explode the grass flock. And then it all sticks in and points in one direction, so it actually looks like grass. Instead of just dabbing it on it. It's like powder coating, but for... Fake grass? For fake grass.

Wow. No, I have not. That's cool. I just googled it. It looks like something else i used to uh i used to do 40k expensive hobby unbelievably unless you go to england it was i bought some stuff when i was in england and it was like wow this is extremely affordable it's almost cheaper to fly to england buy your models and then fly back why is it so much cheaper because they're made in england they're made there i believe so at least they used to be oh wow i don't have an

update on the notebook bag but i do have an update on carabiner replacements i was going to ask that too we're going to have 500 kits sent out within the next couple of weeks oh let's go we're doing it we have more um no i'm just happy things are starting yeah the first order is going to have more but the reason we're doing 500 first is to make sure yeah so it's a rolling thing cool um we got an update on some ykk pulls those were pending for a couple weeks yeah so stuff's happening um magnetic cable management is pending a launch late this month apparently um we have some packs also very cool feeling good for go live uh there's no update in my in my cw update for the jan 7th week which is the most recent one that i think i have

for notebook bag and i'll check the previous one that i also hadn't read yet no i don't see anything about it in there either so hopefully i'll get an update on that fairly soon and then i can um get you guys up to speed uh as you might imagine our relationship with our backpack who's also our notebook bag supplier has been a little bit more complicated lately with the whole double layer thing so you sure want to make it i hope the order's in i'm actually not sure though i'm sorry um did you mention the magnetic cable management i can't remember i did okay good hopefully launching this month so if you were looking for if you are one of the people who got a 25 credit for your backpack and you're looking for something to uh try out that's gonna be a big one show you guys dan how are your

fingers feeling damn ready nice uh all right what are we supposed to do topics you got it You got it. Fujitsu agrees that it is morally culpable. Don't know exactly what that means. How does that translate to dollars? I guess that remains to be seen. Yeah, we'll see. Morally culpable in 700 plus wrongful convictions. Paul Patterson, European head of Fujitsu,

has publicly acknowledged that the company has a moral obligation to help financially compensate hundreds of UK postal workers who were wrongfully charged and convicted of theft and fraud. Between 1999 and 2015, Fujitsu supported the post office in the prosecution of hundreds of innocent sub-postmasters based on discrepancies found in fujitsu's horizon accounting soft i didn't even know fujitsu made accounting one of those companies that just make all the things the company now admits that they knew the software was flawed even at the time and they took part in an appalling miscarriage of justice. However, Patterson says that Fujitsu will wait for a judge to determine the company's share of the settlement. Okay. You know, would I be trying to come up with something,

hoping that if it was, like, in good faith, decent, that maybe I would get better, like, maybe I'd be looked at more favorably in a situation like this or would i just be like but i'll just i'm gonna let you i'm gonna wait and see like what would be the play what would be your play i mean obviously we're not lawyers we don't know the right way to do this but we can kind of this is we're talking we're talking moral culpability i think you'd have to try to do something. I think I'd want to try to do something.

Yeah, yeah. Even if it's small, even if it's just like, you know, hey, how about like, I don't know, groceries stipend from now until this is all resolved and with the understanding that it'll come out of the total payout or something, you know, like just make their lives a little easier for a bit or something like i don't know i have no idea what exactly but i'll try to do something luke i'm spitballing you know

obviously not like you know a tim horton's gift card but something something meaningful that makes their makes their lives a little better for a bit instead of way worse for a long period of time you cost 700 plus people their jobs well more than that like wage subsidy people went to jail it was bad so at least wage subsidy um the sub postmasters who are self-employed contractors started reporting errors in the horizon software only a few weeks after it had been installed the post office responded by denying there was any flaw in the system and forcing individual workers to pay out of pocket to make up the difference there's

never been any bugs in float plate the post you're wrong the post office privately investigated over 900 contractors then used horizon as evidence against them in criminal court, leading to imprisonment, bankruptcy, and four suicides. Even after a 2012 independent forensic audit found that Horizon had serious flaws that could explain these discrepancies, the post office stood by the software's reliability. In 2019, the post office lost a class action lawsuit brought by over 500 sub-postmasters leading to a public inquiry. The BBC recently aired a dramatization of the affair, which has drawn public outcry again.

In response last week, the British prime minister announced legislation to exonerate the affected sub postmasters. I'm wondering why this took so long. Yeah. Like that's just criminal. I mean, there's no word for it other than criminal um

yeah i haven't watched the bbc program on this but people are adding additional details in the chat apparently it's amazing um people are adding details in the chat that are just appalling like like this is f***ed up man yeah this this is this is this is like so one thing that i'm getting a little bit lost here though yeah was it the post office that said there was no bugs or was it fujitsu um the post office said there was no bugs but but I don't think we know what Fujitsu's role is because we haven't watched the thing yet. Right. But like, yeah, I mean,

is that not at the very least manslaughter? Like for the people responsible for... Technically, yeah, I don't think you can be charged for someone else's... No think you can be charged for someone else's no you can be charged for someone else's suicide if you bully or goad them into it yeah this is gonna get into legal stuff that we don't understand in a country that we're not in yeah but like it's gonna be Absolutely. Anyway, so I am not a financial advisor, but maybe don't invest in Fujitsu. If you've been watching the whole show, that'll make sense.

Oh, wild. What's up i guess it's a small amount but like i i would assumed would have assumed this would have done something huh lunch break nice well this is the one day no i just mean this is this like the uh the japanese stock market or something bringing back over the last one day i mean that can't that's that's a thing though because people buy the dip right yeah anywho um but this is like i wonder when this news broke because they've been going down since what happened here stocks are weird anyways that's horrible people are like yeah this won't matter to uh their stock because they're like as big as general electric speaking of general yeah they make like everything

general electric appliances threatens legal action against open source dev and of course this was going to end up on the show appliance manufacturer hire who owns both general electric appliances and hoover has issued a takedown order against andre bosh i'm so sorry i butchered your name i'm sure a developer who maintains the open source home assistant integration plugins for hires h on hon i don't know whatever this is their smart control app it's like home on but shortened according to hires notice the plugins use their services in an unauthorized manner which is causing significant economic harm to their company the f**k are you talking about hire what what economic harm devices people buy

your f**king product i wouldn't even begin to consider an appliance wait do they have a service i wouldn't even begin to consider buying your appliance if it didn't have a plug-in for home assistant and if i wasn't a home assistant user then i would have no f***ing idea what home assistant is so what the f*** are you talking about okay i'm ready to listen oh i i need to look into this more but uh mario p and full plane shot said the post office said there was no bugs fujitsu staff witness statements were edited by the post office to remove references to their being yeah we don't know enough about that but we need to look more let's talk about higher this right now um i'm wondering if there is a software solution that general electric has that they're

trying to sell that people are using um home assistant for instead i wonder if that's what they're saying because i agree you're buying the appliance thing whatever i suspect people are buying this because it works with home assistant more than anything else um probably not the home assistant community is pretty small is it oh yeah it's just my circles i guess yeah yeah it seems like a big idea everyone i talk to about home assistant so either way either way this is this is crap um i don't want a billion different stupid apps with a billion different subscription services so higher tweeted out saying the higher brand in the u.s is independent of higher europe and operates separately hon or h on or whatever is the connected iot platform for higher europe in the u.s customers can use our open iot platform smart hq smart hq does not

prevent integrations with home assistant okay so shout out hire us yeah for doing things right at least ish and for saying this publicly today yeah and for coming out and condemning their their cousin company over in europe um it's time for their cousin company over in europe to figure this out because this is not cool this is not how it works um oh i am gimley says higher us actually has an api that anyone can use to interact with their gear that's super cool cody 4k says go go european commission yeah really yeah i mean hey we've talked about it a fair bit like the eu being pretty cool and stuff this is something that needs to happen yeah we cannot allow appliance companies like you're you're stuck

with this for like 20 years right like these are not this is not even a phone where it's like optimistically you're going to use it for five i think samsung just committed to seven years with the galaxy s24 that's kind of a big deal. That is cool. I'll wait to nap that in the dock. I totally forgot to talk about that this week. But, you know, optimistically, you're going to use this phone for, you know, seven years or whatever. We're talking stuff that you are maybe going to use for 20, 30 years. Like, no, you don't get to just sell me something with the understanding that I can, you know, access it through this plugin or whatever, and then just go, ah, ha, ha, ha, no, forget it. Now you need to pay our subscription fee for,

for like the lifespan of, I don't know what kind of animal lives here. A horse. How long do horses live? I think they live about that long. 25 to 30 years nailed it okay anywho uh it is unclear at this time whether the plugins actually contain any proprietary code but bosh has announced that he will be pulling the plugins in the next few days due to fear of legal

reprisal yeah under certain circumstances i would i would love to be like yeah i'm gonna get together a coalition of creators and we're gonna like fund your defense or whatever but like um this is general electric we just talked on the show about how you know lawsuits can run like i i actually don't have the money apple trying to sue for 73 million dollars if they decide to like go ham at this um and and it sucks that the best advice i can give is that yeah you probably should just pull the plug in i i think you should pull the plug in and immediately uh send i don't know how you do this contact some form of representative in the european commission and try to get some stuff moving they seem to be aggressive about this stuff this might legitimately be something that they want to

jump on and it might not be this specifically they might not have to go after like general electric specifically but they might solve this problem for the industry as a whole which is way better anyways and then you can release your plug-in back again i think that's the way to go not that they're watching or care but yeah um open ai made two notable changes to their terms of service this week yeah first ones the company announced that they're adding new rules prohibiting the use of their lom tools to create political misinformation or to impersonate a political candidate or official cool that's going to help a lot because it's not like there are any other similar tools that can be used to do these things zero i mean in all seriousness though we should be supportive this

is good yeah it is a good thing what's less good is that open ai quietly dropped language banning the military use of their tools what a company owned by microsoft huh what do you mean what do you mean what do you mean yeah all right cool so um according to leaked internal documents one thing i'll say oh sure is if you didn't think other countries are doing this you're nuts according to leaked internal documents amazon is preparing to launch a paid subscription for an upgraded version of Alexa later this year, tentatively named Alexa Plus. Can you imagine yourself paying for Alexa? No. I don't have any Alexa-enabled devices at all.

So definitely not. The new Alexa has LLM chatbot-like features. I mean, it'll cost a lot for them to run, so there's that. Intended to improve its reasoning and conversational abilities including the ability to distinguish between when a user finishes talking versus when they briefly pause wow progress however it's apparently prone to rambling factual errors and hallucination the documents also reveal a degree of internal conflict within amazon because some employees felt the company shouldn't

charge for the new features how are they gonna pay for yeah that's that sounds like people who really cool idea would rather be laid off than deal with having a balance sheet that is positive yeah like i just i i love ideas but that's ultimately you want to raise at the end of the year and everybody needs to eat so there's some massive new expense someone has to pay for it yeah is it going to be you with your salary or is it going to be the customer yeah i don't know bezos isn't going to take less kind of silly um oh right sorry i keep saying alexa sorry sorry guys i forgot um maybe soon you'll have alexa play despacito oh stop luke you're gonna make the two people that use alexa upset what a f***ing i hope i got somebody you probably got both of them you almost certainly did

you got me yes oh man oh that was worth it it's an older meme but it checks out that was the song everyone used to do, right? Yes. Yeah, I thought so. The Vision Pro has apparently no hot apps. Pre-orders have started as of yesterday.

We've got our order in. I think its delivery is scheduled for late March or April or something like that. So that either means they're getting a lot of orders or it means they're not producing a lot of them. Demand is reportedly high enough that it has exceeded available stock in several U.S. cities. Strangely, attempting to preorder it online seems to require an iPhone or an iPad with Face ID. Really?

You know, it doesn't surprise me that much. I have a whole thing that I want to do on how impossible it is to cancel Apple arcade from an apple tv if i didn't don't own an ipad or an iphone the only way to cancel a subscription you cannot do it on the apple tv there is no button it should gotta be illegal it should be illegal that's gotta be illegal already you cannot that like has to be illegal uh also this is a fun one um i could not find any way to remove my payment information they scan your face for the cushion people are saying because i am the family plan owner so as a family plan owner i must have a valid credit card unless it like expires i actually do not see how that could possibly be legal they might be able to update your credit

card if you get a new one if it expires as well google can do that i'm pretty sure apple can do that no i just mean i couldn't remove it no what i'm saying is even if the card expires if you get issued a new one they might be able to get that number from your bank google can do that really yeah like uh google pay i'm fairly certain apple pay can do this as well okay well apple didn't when my card lapsed before so do you have apple pay like tap with your phone and pay no okay yeah i'm pretty sure that system can yeah no just my apple arcade subscription lapsed because my card expired and it did not automatically apple has done that for me yeah so apple pay and google pay will both update your card with information from your bank but like they'll have your new cards information in your phone before you even receive your new card in

the mail that's like use privacy one of your previous sponsors i want to it's not in canada it's not in canada i really wish it was yeah me too it's a super cool service very cool i will show for privacy anytime they're not even like have they even sponsored in a while not in a while yeah it's still super cool yeah i just wish they were in canada anyway yeah so i want to do a whole thing on it where i like live i go through and i show you guys a how hard it was to subscribe to it in the first place just on my android phone through a browser it was like almost impossible and then unsubscribing was literally impossible it could not be done on the apple tv could not be done on my phone in a browser could not be done on the Apple TV, could not be done on my phone in a browser,

could not be done on my computer in a browser. I had to download the desktop iTunes application. If for whatever reason, I did not own a desktop PC, if my only computing device was an Apple TV, it would be completely impossible to cancel my subscription or because I'm a family manager, remove my credit card because I was like, okay, screw it. a family manager remove my credit card because i was like okay screw it i'll just remove my credit card i don't need to buy anything else from apple and it wouldn't allow me to do it you actually cannot keep my credit card information against

my will that cannot possibly be legal anywho the reason for them requiring an iphone or an ipad with face id is that they scan your face to make sure the cushion fits better, apparently. Despite Apple's claim that most iPad apps can play on the Vision Pro without any changes, it seems the device won't have access to most top apps from the App Store at launch, including, and this is some heavy hitters, launch including and this is uh these are some heavy hitters amazon netflix youtube instagram facebook and tiktok according to mac stories none of the top 46 apps on the app store will be available as a native app and just above a third of them will be available in compatibility mode, meaning that nearly two-thirds of developers explicitly opted out of making their iPad app compatible with the headset. YouTube confirmed that it was not allowing its app to be used in compatibility mode,

did not clarify why, and instead suggested that Vision Pro users should access the site through a browser. So, discussion question for you. What is the most likely reason that so many companies would actively avoid allowing their apps to be used on a hot new Prestige product? I honestly don't know. Like, would you allow floatplane in compatibility mode if people were like, yeah, I want to try it? Or would you be worried about a whole bunch of support calls if it doesn't work right yeah we are a statistically extremely small team for what we do though um i feel like a a team like netflix would be able to handle that what if they just didn't give a shit about the 63 people that are going to be watching netflix that's possible maybe the um i i'm surprised they wouldn't try to buddy with apple more and just do it to make

apple happy uh i don't think anything makes apple happy other than money i don't i don't i'm not convinced that that's like really a thing okay i i don't know have you seen any evidence of it no i have no idea it seems like their their relationship with app developers is pretty adversarial for the most part i just i find that like a lot of these companies will have apps for like everything you could imagine because they just have like these monstrous dev teams and they're just like yeah we're going to support every freaking tv and every way and all this other type of stuff i don't know maybe we should try it when we get ours try what flowplane app oh wait we don't have an ipad app don't have okay then forget it yeah there you go all right see you later maybe we could maybe get oh he's like far away now and stuff but

there you know i'm not even gonna talk about it because i i learned my lesson of of telling people what we're working on for floatplane because then they want it like tomorrow. What is it? I don't know. I don't even think you know. No, you have to tell me. Nope. I'll call your boss.

I'm not even on shift. I've been working for 12 hours today. Come at me, bro. All right. bro all right google more layoffs um google has laid off over a thousand staff across their business in the last nine days i made sure our youtube rep was okay hey shout out glad you're good um nice according to an internal memo from ceo senator pichai these layoffs will not be as severe oh there's more coming they say oh wow okay um yeah there's more a lot that sucks uh in other news amd's phoenix one and phoenix two apus are not twin cores this is this is a

cute headline from uh presumably jessica for some time we've known that amd would be using two different chips in its ryzen 8000g apus phoenix one and phoenix two cool names with the biggest difference we were aware of being that phoenix 2 uses some zen 4c cores so these are these compact ones that um on the server side of things anyway, allow greater core density at the expense of higher clock speeds. And I believe they also have less cache, but I'm not sure if that's anything to do with the cores themselves or if it's the bigger caches. So don't quote me on that. hosted by Gigabyte show that Phoenix 2 APUs not only use Zen 4C cores, but they have fewer PCIe lanes, which will cap them to two PCIe Gen 4 lanes for the secondary NVMe slot. Further, while Phoenix 1 has eight PCIe 4.0 lanes for add-in GPUs, Phoenix 2 has only four.

use phoenix 2 has only four currently the ryzen 5 8500g is the only retail design using phoenix 2 and i will be very interested to see if amd even seeds these phoenix 2 chips to reviewers or if they are going to pull a quiet hmm well here's the skews you should review and these ones will also be like on new egg and maybe people will just like buy those ones because they're less expensive and they'll assume it's that but cheaper i am i'm not liking this um that few pcie lanes could be a major disadvantage for this chip especially as it ages yeah four. Four lanes for a GPU. Do you find it's misleading that the two is worse? It's a code name,

so I don't worry about that as much. Got it, okay. But the fact that they're all 8000G, just with like one number different, to me indicates that they are feature similar, and I am not pleased with this. Yeah. I think that's it for topics this week, Dan.

I think it's time for After Dark. Isn't it? I thought there was something you were supposed to talk about that wasn't in the list. Oh, Radeon Challenge Update. That can be After Dark. Okay. Oh.

Oh, After Dark is brought to you by dbrand again because the sales team apparently has found that only dbrand Look at him go! oh after dark is brought to you by d brand again because the sales team apparently um has found that only d brand is interested in sponsoring after dark hey d brand if you're watching this which i know you almost certainly are oh uh oh wow got him um d brand if you're watching this uh you can probably negotiate with the uh biz team because i don't think they have any other offers for when show after dark so what but what are you doing why am i helping them yeah uh well i just in good faith i'm offering them

it's more why are you good advice nerfing the business no i'm offering them i'm offering them good advice yeah but they've got targets so that so that d brand will feel indebted to us and offer to pay more. Oh. It's 4D chess. I don't think it's going to work. Yeah, it's like next level emotional manipulation. I think you just sacked your queen. You just lost your queen in the fourth dimension.

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What? Yeah, apparently we're already working on it so it's just a cute it looks great it's a cute little um that's so cool it's a cute little bread themed dinosaur standing yeah i mean you guys can't really see it but there's a little bread brontosaurus uh standing on a little pad of grass and there's a little cute little frame so i need creator where i was to like turn into like one of the and there's a little cute little frame so i need creator warehouse to like turn into like one of the samsung's of the world where they just make everything yeah yeah creator warehouse insurance yeah why not yeah why not yeah okay i think i also had a message

from uh dbrand about the whole s24 like stylus something yeah okay here we go so they posted this on reddit um they have not found any difference between the performance of an s23 ultra s pen versus an s24 ultra s pen while a magsafe case is attached uh samsung has acknowledged the interference between magnets and the s pen going back as far as the galaxy note 8 they advise those who encounter magnetic interference to use the s pen with more force of course a lot has changed since then what can you expect when using a magsafe enabled case on your galaxy ultra okay this effects differs from accessory to accessory nevertheless logical conclusion okay okay okay sometimes they write a lot um here's how the rollout will work oh they're going to have a non magsafe variant for all their ultra model galaxy cases

okay cool so if you're worried about it then you can just get one that doesn't have magsafe and doesn't have magnets in it okay or you can get one that does I guess maybe I'm not sure check it out on reddit the point is check out their new grip case now available for the Samsung S24 series linked down below

Dan yeah how you doing over there check out their new grip case now available for the samsung s24 series linked down below dan yeah how you doing over there i'm okay how about you you had a nice day i've had a i've had an okay day it sure looks nice tiring would you like a merch message i mean i guess it's an option okay if we ever want to get out of here what do you guys do with teams i've never been logged out across four different employers and multiple computers do you use funky windows login configurations yeah luke we don't have yeah dan can you guys fix this no eventually oh you want to make it a you want to make it a quarterly priority i mean i don't set them anymore but i

would yes i find it really annoying i'm pretty sure we can fix it if we get um i always forget the name of it a ad jake told oh active directory yeah okay because jake told me like a thousand years ago that there wasn't a way to configure it but that was literally a thousand years ago so there is i i i threw some very light googling i think we might need ad um entra now okay yeah i don't know there is ways to to deal with it entra ad not looking forward to that fine hi dll can you is this really gonna be that annoying the whole time i do not know that was not in my instruction okay never mind i take it back dbrand needs to pay extra if they're gonna

have this bullshit down here it's also like the opposite of dark after everything else is dark we have this like very bright daytime scene rip oled users yeah uh i know we know there's like a lot of things that can be better i know what i was delivered a thing that was on fire we're working on it it's not as on fire anymore it's getting better okay you brought me into the fire i blame you as well that's fair hold on i can i can uh ruin some of d brand's money there we go okay that's a little better oh no it breaks the whole thing though okay i'll just white stretch it just leave it oh no we can black stretch it there we go okay that helps maybe a little that's a little better thanks dan ah damn it okay uh hi dll can you talk about the early days of the forum and how you ensured a positive and safe community?

Looking to start something similar to catalog and compile historical info about a specific place? Well, our mod team was and is awesome. Part of it is that we just kind of have a pretty positive community. For the most part, I mean, I mean, part of it was the, you know, vision for the forum was to not want to be like a toxic place where, where put downs are considered to be acceptable between members. There's obviously exceptions. It's any, any where you put two people,

someone's likely to disagree with somebody about something and get heated. But there was also a way back. There was a mountain of work from the venerable Mr. Wizard. And these days, Mortis. Speaking of. Speaking of. These are our rules. Ensure a friendly atmosphere to our visitors and forum members

ensure the freedom of expression and exchange of information in a mature and responsible manner don't be a dick will we be excellent to each other bill and ted remember your audience both present and future that's it yeah pretty much i mean we get more specific and all that but yeah but honestly that top bit is should be all you really need. It really should. Yeah. And yet it isn't. Correct.

Yeah, the mods hold it together. Yeah, I mean, it basically operates as a completely independent thing these days. We've taken more of the admin-y server management stuff in-house to try to free up mortis as much as possible um so jonathan and tyler from the full plane team or have been on top of that but that's not the community fostering the community fostering has been all the the mods in the community itself yeah it's actually kind of hilarious how very independent from ltd it is these days like as

far as i can tell it's a hotbed for ltd haters at this point yeah how ironic there's a bunch of that too which we always committed to not clamping down on and we stay committed to we are for for all the for all the criticism it's all still there one of the spoken but not written written original news. Wow. That was a really difficult sentence for me. I'm not sure why. One of the spoken but not written original rules of the site was that in regards to going after people, you could go after us and nobody else was fair game. Yeah.

That was kind of how it was supposed to be. They really took that and ran with it. They sure did. Yeah. Yeah. Hello, LDL. they sure did yeah yeah hello ldl with the snowy canadian winters how do the line of socks and sandals combo work i'm actually wearing shoes today he is yeah there's like slush puddles that are this deep the slush puddles are rough the snow you can do but the slush puddles it's just it's a puddle i have a whole technique snow. You like lift straight up and go straight down.

Yeah. And you can kind of make your way through it a little bit. Yeah. But no, I got shoes on today. Hi, WAN.dll. Have you done any more research into automated cleaning bots like the one Walmart has thinking of the badminton center? No, not yet.

I mean, we're so far away from completion on that. I thought we were supposed to be done in March. Yeah's already been pushed remember how i said i had nobody told me yeah you should probably tell i was not informed the people that are going to be building a bunch of stuff in the building i was not informed either sir oh okay i was unequivocally told march uh and then i said bet and then you were like no absolutely march what that there's shut up that's not what happened i die that is on the wan show no it is you can find that clip wait what database hold he'll find it please well there's no way i always say that construction is always delayed. I specifically remember somebody telling me unequivocally

that it was absolutely going to be March. Was I being verbally ironic? Probably. Did we ever figure out what sardonic meant? I do not fully understand what sardonic means. No, no. I think it's like a lighthearted kind of insincerity of some sort but it's not sarcasm or cynical okay sure yeah so then i clearly did not know cynically okay well not being march

makes things a little bit easier i don't have to lay awake at night stressing about it anymore um yeah great there is absolutely i mean come on yeah okay yeah when database i'd love to i i'd love to know if i said that i find man i find that very hard to believe maybe i'm crazy i'll try to get that phone next week not important look the reality of it is i they're on it they're on it it's gonna probably take till next week but they're on it arthur's on it okay all right hilarious i'm gonna get lambasted if i'm wrong yeah i'm so will i i i have a feeling dug in pretty hard here i have a feeling what might have been said is that that's the date we currently have so we should be at a full preparedness level for that date i doubt i

said anything that complaining for that date maybe that's what said anything that complex. We should be planning for that date. Maybe that's what I said. That sounds like something you would say. I would say something. I don't know. I think I would say something more along the lines of, meh. We'll figure it out. Well, Arthur will figure it out. Nice. Thanks, Arthur.

Cool. Hey, DLL, thinking about the- Oh, do you want to know the new eta that would be nice uh yeah so um q2 so april yeah maybe get it still march where's my ding i'm going home where the f**k is my ding that was pretty good thank you uh hey dlo thinking about the potential of future tech or mechanical augments humans may potentially be able to make their bodies in the near future how far would each of you be willing to go uh um i think it would depend on how my body decayed yeah like when i am when i'm when i'm

young and functioning well when i'm like yeah whatever but if you told me like hey you can have glasses hanging off your face for the rest of your life or you can have like this bionic thing that we like drill into the back of your eye and put in there and then you like never need glasses anymore and your eyes are like better than they ever were i'm like okay as long as the success rate is pretty high i i think the thing that i have would have to be in a very bad spot and then if that's the case yeah i'm down like if i'm like mostly blind yeah yeah let's go but right now do i want something drilled into the back of my eye not really yeah yeah because like they're still all right they're not great but they're all right yeah they're not great you should really wear your glasses yeah okay cool i forgot them for

the curling tournament again yeah yeah oh yeah how'd you try you never told me how the last day went they they made they made the uh the the finals of the consolation bracket yeah that's a really nice way of saying the losers bracket no it's a consolation bracket is it actually yeah oh i thought it was legitimately no that's standard terminology they call it group b yeah sure group b consolation yeah so i had a curling tournament as i said on the show and then someone tried to correct me and they're right it's called a bond spiel but if i say bond spiel no one's gonna know what the heck I mean. So it's a tournament, whatever.

Traditionally, we were in the novice tournament, but we won like a bunch of times. So I think that got annoying. So they decided to give my uncle, my brother and I, who have never played a season of curling, they gave each one of us a year of experience on paper um because we were at zero years of experience because we had no years of experience but because we had played in the novice tournament a decent amount of times they said that we had a year of experience which isn't equivalent but whatever um and then my dad's accumulated

actually large amount of user experience because he's like he like coaches the intermediate level or whatever all this crazy stuff yeah um that combined made it so that we had too many years of experience collectively on the team of my dad my brother my uncle and i um to play in the novice tournament anymore or the novice bonds bill um so we had to play in the like proper tournament yeah against real teams that really play. Yeah. And if I remember correctly, the year cap for the novice term is like 15 or something. Ah, yeah. So the novice tournament had good players in it.

Right. Yeah. And the real tournament has really good players in it. Everyone on that team has to have been playing for at least almost four years yeah like on average and a lot of people that go play at that club play like a lot right so because it's a curling club nothing else happens there yeah which probably has some stupid name like a farn derf or something like if a tournament's called a bond spiel i love the creativity by that name um but yeah we we were often like you know the team to beat at the novice tournament um and then we we definitely got beaten

this time um we beat one team did your rocks get socked they they got bopped at the very least. Yeah, okay. Luke is a farnderfer, confirmed. But yeah, the one thing for me is I try really hard to be useful. So I'm trying to play really well and with my shots but when we go to sweep i can generate a decent amount of power so i'm going for it but i'm going for it hard every time so the next day i'm really sore oh i see my problem with that is yeah you have a bit of a like sprint and collapse sort of mindset yeah in life yep it's um interesting we'll call it that sure i was gonna go with flaw but sure it works fine if you just

never collapse yeah see yeah that's the thing so your wrong line is always why don't you just continue um so the next day the soreness kind of threw my shots off a little bit right okay and your shoulder's been not perfect over the last couple years i held together for the tournament really oh well okay everything physically was fine just the soreness like it's a lot of fine movements and stuff so when you're stiff when certain muscles are tight you're stiff the fine movement is going to change slightly so when there's no like practice shots and i haven't been doing this for a year i had it pretty dialed on the first day but because of how we placed we didn't we could have played all of our games on that one day and if we did it would have been fine but we played

the next game the next morning or midday really yeah um and that meant that i i was just a little bit thrown off so i didn't play that well i didn't play the worst on the team. I think I would say, um, but I didn't play that well in the next day. Um, and I was doing pretty good the day before. And then didn't you mention that, uh, one of your family members had to go like save lives or something.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My brother kind of does that all the time. So he wasn't able to show up. So like, it was just, yeah,

we didn't end up doing, is your brother's career a secret? No, he's a firefighter. Okay. Yeah. So that's what we mean. Um, yeah, we didn't end up doing. Is your brother's career a secret? No, he's a firefighter. Okay. Yeah. So that's what we mean. Um, yeah.

So as the team that like tends to win these all the time, it's taken a long time for you to arrive at you lost. Yeah. But we were still in the money. Really? Yeah. Oh, so you won more than you paid to enter the tournament. Is that what you mean?

I don't know if that ended up being true. We got money back. We were in a money placement, but due to the like part of your entry, you get like meals and stuff. Okay. So I don't know if it actually ended up like making it positive. Cool.

We did get money back. Heck yeah. Hey, shout out. Good job. So you, so you came in second in the consolation bracket. Yes.

That's a pretty respectable result. It was better than I thought. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think we'd end up in the finals. Yeah. that's a pretty respectable result it was better than i thought yeah yeah i didn't think we'd end up in the finals yeah i was pretty happy we did that was a really long story when he could have just said yeah we lost it's a lot of excuse making i mean i already told you we lost i forgot you knew what position we were it came in yeah yeah i forgot though okay i i knew after the first day i remembered that part and then i didn't remember until halfway through your very long story that you had told me about rich not being able to be there and stuff oh I thought you wanted more information no I'm not got it second place

equals first loser yeah I mean I don't know but didn't you come in second place in the loser bracket yeah it was like so he's like the second loser or like yeah a lot a lot twice removed yeah loser's cousin yeah yeah hi lld you all seem good at researching products to make sure they are high quality any tips on how to effectively research products before buying them to ensure it's a quality product worth buying customer reviews trying to find customer reviews that look like they're written by real people statistics um statistics five five star reviews is not as good as a thousand 4.3 star reviews yeah yeah yeah for sure that's a good one you you probably want a decent amount of reviews but not everything's gonna have it depending on what you're shopping for i always want to see a combination of professional reviewers

who have spent realistically a limited amount of time with it but know what to look for and real users who realistically aren't as sure what to look for but sure you shoot know what's annoying uh i need both no i actually do think he cares his memory is just i care about what it's a thing what are you talking about people are saying he didn't care about the curling tournament stuff what curling tournament stuff it's curling what more do you want luke come on dan that didn't even win no he could have just like not asked he's just not necessarily gonna remember stuff like that that's okay yeah and i i did remember it just took me a little while that's why i prompted him for his brother not being there notice he didn't say that part

maybe i just i you know the part i didn't remember was just that you lost actually i remembered the rest of the stories so maybe he was droning for so long with all of his excuses but he never made it to that part that might be true that's yeah um game might have started or something yeah the last big tip is actually a really good one is make sure you also read the one starstar reviews because if the one-star review is just like my shipment got lost got here late which is just like both of those are probably outside of the company's hands that has nothing to do with the quality of the product so what are you even talking about like um so you got to make sure that you're pinching whatever salt is necessary

on the the pieces of information that might not be fully representative yeah you should jump around you should read the high ones read the low ones also read the middle ones because sometimes i find the middle ones will also have alternative product suggestions or they'll be like oh this was pretty good but i prefer this other one it's like oh maybe you not necessarily you should just go buy that other one immediately, but maybe you should go look at that. Wrong tab. Hi, Like. Have you considered making a public roadmap for Floatplane? Would love to know if an Android TV app is on the horizon.

I archived it. Okay. Hi, LTT. I work at the Wikipedia Foundationipedia foundation as a foss developer on wikipedia are there any features you wish wikipedia had i could try i could answer them slightly luke don't no i can answer them slightly i don't i don't really want to do a roadmap my reason for that is the team is extremely small so if if we want someone to work on something

new they have to stop working on something else so sometimes things get shelved for a certain period of time we also are very small so if to get sick, that thing will just beyond pause until they're back there often, isn't another person to work on it. Um, so people will get enraged when something gets delayed when sometimes it's just cause like, we're trying to not be mean to the people that work with us. Um, and honestly, one of the best solutions to that is just not really tell you guys what's coming until it's like in beta and you can play with it. Um, so that's been somewhat of a new strategy and with everything that is just not really tell you guys what's coming until it's like in beta and you can play with it um so that's been a somewhat of a new strategy and with everything that i just

said in mind i will not comment on the android tv apps i work at wikipedia found wikimedia foundation as a faucet developer on wikipedia are there any features that you wish wikipedia had um wikipedia is pretty good i yeah no it does what i want no notes yeah i don't know keep it up kind of great like i actually found you know that the the ebay stalking scandal thing we covered i think it was last week I found the best coverage for that was just the Wikipedia page on it. Yeah. Cool. I was like, wow. Pretty good.

Chad has some thoughts. Dark mode? Does it not have a dark mode? Wikipedia is such a simple site, though. You could just use a dark reader or something, right? I am certain there are third-party add-ons to make Wikipedia dark mode. I'm surprised they don't have a dark mode. But solidarity.

Let's go. All right. Hit me, Dan. have a dark mode but um solidarity let's go all right hit me dan why can't you emulate cuda on other gpus i know it's a dedicated hardware but emulators for consoles exist i'm not expecting 100 performance but one percent is still better than zero percent you forgot the last part of that message thanks for the butt cleaner i was pausing for dramatic effect wait um the point of cuda is performance uh so i can't think of any compelling reason to emulate cuda on other hardware i guess would be the main thing i'm sure that there's i'm sure that there are developers who might have more thoughts on this than i do but no i'm not i'm not really um yeah i just i just can't think of a good reason to do it um why would anyone create that emulator the hardware is readily available.

Um, so you can, you can get a cheap consumer card and use that for testing. Um, yeah, I just, I just can't think of a good reason to do it. You can even throw, uh,

you can even throw an Nvidia card in a system that doesn't, that already has another GPU and just use it as a cuda accelerator like it's uh yeah someone in philippine chat said i lost it so i can't say their name but uh wikipedia needs video content um oh aero db there it is no yeah no i want to completely destroy their costs yeah add video yeah and honestly i can't think of very many articles that would need it no not none of them reading yeah it's a trip yep sounds hard um it can be yeah yeah there apparently are CUDA translation engines. Quantum Jank says,

I was reading about one the other day. Yeah, but that would be, that's not emulation, though, is my understanding. My understanding is that would be tools to allow you to recompile but, yeah, guys, for real, I am not a developer, so take that for what it is and last one of the curated that i have when you do decide to change for the sake of change

if you decide that at all what would it take for a new wan show intro or set a new wan show intro would require me to remember to remind ed to go after make and then it would require him to have time to do it so that's that um as for the wanshow set um we would have to want to spend money on the wanshow set which i'm not feeling especially motivated to do right now yeah 2023 has been a challenging year and i don't see 2024 not being a challenging year yeah i feel like unless it moves i wouldn't yeah and even if it moves maybe you can just seems fine yeah it's in a state of flux you know what we could do is we could like um we could just rotate the whole thing 90 degrees we could have that in the back like we hold on here this is

interesting what that the coolest wall of the set. Never gets shown. What? Why don't we just use that one? What's going on? Whoa. Whoa. There's something else on the set.

That's illegal. How could this possibly be allowed? Hey, that's a relic in Slay the Spire that gives you potions after every battle. That's a C200. I meant the white elephant. Rhino, whatever. Obviously.

Oh, you've played, I guess. I don't know. And are you going to go all the way over to the other wall? Oh, he's continuing. I like this. This is cool. There's something stopping him. it's the arm on the stand Oh

yeah Yeah. Oh, camera reception. Whoa! Speed pan. We're back. What is that letter on the shelf? I think we can't tell you. If I remember correctly what that is, we... That's supposed to be private, right?

I think so. I think there's a request in it to not read it in a video or something. I don't know if that's that one or not. Sometimes people send mail that they don't know if that's that one or not. Sometimes people send mail that they, like, don't... You know. This is not supposed to be a tweet. This is supposed to be mail. It's fan mail for the They're Just Movies podcast.

Oh, never mind. I thought it was something else no ah well i guess it'll keep living there all right dan hit me hi when.dll need a home security system ubiquity is awesome but price is prohibitive unraid falls down on the gf approval factor needing vpn to local network suggestions on alternatives this is a really really good question and i think will require more investigation and research than what i have available to me right here right now on the show uh maybe chat will have some thoughts yeah that might be a forum one yeah forum post good suggestion yeah there are some good suggestions for how to deal with the vpn um situation like tail scale uh that's a very complicated situation yeah and if ubiquity is price prohibitive then a hundred percent this is a forum post and like a community has to figure out what it works exactly for your

needs yeah because obviously it's just about ubiquity is great. You're done. Okay, up next. Hey, JPhil and Nick, today I proved that the RGB sweater works with the boss suit. The J2Cents podcast. Tons of compliments on the look. If NVIDIA ever manages to buy ARM, do you think they could topple Intel and AMD?

I don't think that ARM is the threat to Intel and AMD right now. Okay, I shouldn't say that. Okay, the latest Snapdragon processors are making Windows on ARM kind of look viable. That's pretty cool um however for a long time you know the the the conversation around uh you know the big threat to intel and amd has been the data center and the inroads that arm is making there but um until an amd are still kind of kind of doing okay there and risk five is coming so

fast like i played euro truck simulator on a risk five system that's actually kind of nuts yeah with 3d acceleration dude like it ran like but it ran. The fact that it did anything. It's crazy. Yeah. Risk is good. Yeah. NVIDIA ever manages to buy ARM? I don't think they would want to.

I mean, NVIDIA, their CEO has said publicly that anytime Intel is headed into a business, they would rather just not go head to head um i i don't i don't see them i also don't see how they need to buy arm in order to threaten intel and amd's data center cpu business anyway like we've already got their super chip and stuff like that like i just i could they topple until no yeah no i don't think it's i don't think it's a topple so much as a as an option when do you decide uh sorry no that's it that's all i've got for um the curated there we go hey dlo what's your opinion on the community

porting spider-man 2 to pc i know linus's opinion on sailing the high seas but that's a different topic entirely um i did not know about this to be perfectly honest with you so i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to look this up luke had you heard of this you've seen this what oh the spider-man 2 thing yeah yeah i curated that because i was like schwat uh i think that's a current gen console only game is that right yes it's ps5 an unofficial oh it is not this is according to game rant it is not expected to be released after many of the people involved have withdrawn from the project an unofficial marvel spider-man 2 pc port was derived from materials leaked in the recent insomniac data breach and it has been scrapped ah yes um i think that i don't think that's

different in the case of the nintendo um breaches and all the kind of historical you know artwork and assets and uh developmental history that was unearthed i was i was pretty supportive because these were products that had already made their money in the case of a game that is going to come to pc probably at some point i'm not sure if they've officially announced it or not but like is probably going to come to pc at some point but hasn't yet because of their relationship with sony and know, they're still very much actively monetizing this intellectual property. I don't know what to say other than that, no, that's not really very cool.

You didn't make that game. It's not really yours. Also like Insomniac, aren't they kind of cool i should also shouldn't we be cool to them love the show has there been any progress with the water resistant ball cap i haven't seen or heard anything about it for a while me neither uh dan do you want to just forward this one internally and maybe uh they can get an answer sure i will send that to nick hello dll luke have you heard of spt it has to do with tarkov yeah uh i i think it stands for single player tarkov um yeah, I not really my thing.

If I'm going to want to play Tarkov, I'm probably going to want to play it with someone else. Uh, unless it, if it supported co-op and the AI was good, it could be a fun game. Uh, but without co-op, it doesn't really mean much to me um there's so many cheaters in standard tarkov that it's actually insane so like it would be kind of nice to get away from that um and they have a they have a bug right now where if you crouch walk at minimum speed you actually just make zero sound uh which in a game like tarkov is like kind of a problem. Um, but there's always going to be problems with Tarkov.

So it just kind of is what it is. I don't know. I would enjoy a, uh, like co-op Tarkov. I think that'd be really cool. But single player Tarkov is not really my flavor, but I can understand how it would be for some people.

Um, But I can understand how it would be for some people. Any more in curated, or shall I just start going through the potentials? I'm looking at the potentials. Yeah, I was replying to potentials. So, Luke, if you want to pick some potentials for us to do out loud, I'll go through them. And I got a response back from Nick Light about the ball caps. i was fast very soon the order

is in uh there's another one it's a quick and easy one yeah the uh the order is on its way to us it is currently in shipping thank you nick uh next question when will computer pet bed coming out oh soon yeah i think we just sorted out a packaging issue where the box was the wrong size it was too small and it was like crumpling it too much so we're gonna have a bigger box for it but yeah i think we're placing our order so so soon soonish like on the order of weeks but not three like like more than a month worth of weeks but not like many many months right um this is a this is a weird one what are your thoughts on algorithmically managed network switches like what nile is doing have you ever heard of these no

we did uh we actually participated in a campaign that cisco was doing um do you remember man do you guys remember this hold on here we go oh yeah here we go here we go sounds dangerous okay do you guys remember this campaign from cisco with peter dinklage no he basically walks around what is this like london or something i don't know he walks around some city for three minutes positing what if questions about you know a network that self-manages and then i remember working with the agency and being like hey okay so what exactly is it that you're promoting and they were like we're not sure we assumed you would know let me get back to you so i find so i yeah i ended up having to talk to engineers at cisco to explain like what the shit exactly it was that they were promoting

but it was basically that what you're talking about like algorithmic monitoring and reacting to uh changes in uh network load or user behavior or whatever else. I mean, theoretically, it sounds super cool, but I would need to hear from people who actually admin these networks before I was going to try to say anything intelligent about it on WAN Show. It sounds kind of like there was an Onion article ages ago when the cloud was a thing.

HP has the cloud. We definitely do. And you can do all the cloud things on it we have it yeah pretty much and all of their marketing stuff was they had no idea it was great uh onion hp didn't actually like think that uh of course let's see let's uncover that one um question for luke i'm a mechanical engineer but a lot of my job has turned into software development i enjoy it and i'm apparently good at it but i feel like i don't know what i'm doing advice no one does stay curious enjoy your stay that's about it hello wangerines

that's a new one that is a new one i like that i like this a lot have you ever felt external validation of your career choice from an unexpected person or event like some random person who thank you for a specific video i don't know if my mom ever told me she thought it was cool that would be unexpected it's funny because uh she's the one who got me into tech in a big way or in at least some ways um like we were the first people i knew with internet yeah like 14 4k baby um but then like at some point she just completely lost interest in it or something i don't know whatever um yeah shoot um it's always really random stuff you get recognized in in like you've mentioned this before but if you go into like a best buy

it's like yeah okay yeah but you expected that yeah so that's an easy answer no no that's not what i'm saying um like those ones are easy expected etc um there's been for me it's always like people that do stuff that i think is like like like when when when we figured out that like people from nasa show, I was just like, yeah, that's pretty cool. What? I don't know. You're way smarter than us. Yeah, like what's going on?

How can like anything I say be beneficial or interesting to you? But yeah, I don't know. It's cool. Hey, DLL. know um it's cool hey dll linus you often refer to final fantasy 6 as your favorite games one of your favorite games if se were to remake it would you prefer to have it done in triple a fashion i.e 7r or with 2.5d visuals more akin to Octopath Traveler? I think having played 6 so many times, I would actually be pretty open to a reimagining of the story more like 7 Remake.

I would be unhappy with how long that would take, like looking at how long all the parts of 7 Remake are taking to come out. Like I'd be old and gray by the time i could play it um at this point especially because final fantasy six does not get enough love like what they're gonna remake set of like what what would you remake next after seven probably not six it's not no one's gonna remake eight nobody cares about eight except you you're the one person and no you don't count the one other the one other person that was gonna say yeah i could see them doing i would probably be 10 i was gonna say 10 yeah but with worse voice acting i don't think that would be possible the ones that i hear spoken about the

most in order is seven than six than ten and i i'm not even including you um yeah but the six community is really loud the ten community is much bigger got it i mean it's frustrating for me because nine is if i'm being honest probably better than any of them nine is like never good nine is so good it's glorious it's it's a masterpiece um people are saying yeah chrono trigger would probably get a remake before final fantasy six hundred percent i accidentally just archived one where someone was asking me if I've made a burrito with my birds. I don't know what that means. You wrap it up in a little blanket?

And eat them? No. No, never. Well, never done that except for when you need to handle them and feed them medicine and stuff. But I've never done it for like fun. They hate it. Some larger birds are more comfortable with it, but they're not a fan.

Linus, as somebody who has successfully built and managed a tech-focused business, common misconception, it is a media-focused business, but carry on. It's Linus Media Group, that's right. What advice do you have for individuals looking to start their own business in 2024 good luck i know the news says economic recovery coming that means it's not going to happen it's kind of tough times right now i um i i i i'm trying to figure out and you know what

maybe there are places where you know things are different but i'm kind of trying to figure out what they're talking about i mean economists right they're experts they you know know or something maybe but there's a big difference between the stock market you know doing really good and what's happening to like real people yeah and the earnings well the stock market doesn't reflect at all what happens to real people it doesn't care in the slightest yeah uh people are saying interest rates are coming down yeah well that's that's rumored yeah interest rates are supposed to be coming down that will only help in certain ways it won't hurt in you know in general but um um you know go hard but play it safe you know make sure you've got something that has a has a has a clear value you know regardless of of what kind of economic times we're heading into yeah LLD, but mostly Linus

Here in the year of our lord Talkit Is it talk-tache? Talkit-tache I don't do the foreign words very well I only read, I've never heard it said out loud So I'm not going to be able to help you Really?

Yeah Okay Are you watching Canucks games now that they're competitive, or is it badminton hours till the end now? I'm Googling it. I stopped watching NHL hockey after, I think, either the last lockout or the one before the lockout. I've talked about this before, but I was just kind of tired of um i got sort of disenchanted with the whole thing i stopped seeing teams as you know teams

representing my city and i started seeing them for what honestly sorry to red pill you here but for what they are businesses they're businesses they build brands they extract money from customers you're not a fan you're a customer and they're not a team they're a business um and so i just it just it made it really hard for me to cheer and since i don't bet all of a sudden the stakes were really low for me and it just kind of drained the fun out of it i still love hockey i'd still love to watch hockey i would play hockey if i had the physique for it um it's it's just it's such an amazing sport it's it's great uh but i just i i also just don't have the kind of time that i used to back when i really followed it and watched every game uh with that said i read um i do know

how things are going and i i pay attention to the cast of characters. Um, they're having a heck of a season. I mean, I guess maybe this is, maybe this is it. We're due to, uh, to losing game seven in the finals.

It's been a while for those wondering it's happened three times. We've never actually brought home a Stanley cup, but three connects teams, 82, 94 and 2004, 2006. Yeah. teams, 82, 94, and 2004, 2006? Some time around there. All three times to, I think it was the Islanders, the Rangers, and then the Bruins.

They went to seven games and couldn't get her done. So, yeah. Was it 2011? Thanks, guys, 2011. so yeah was it 2011 thanks guys 2011 uh uh yeah it's uh it's it's it's i play badminton i don't play hockey and i i don't have time to watch games but i'm like i'll i'll just end up like slack jawed staring at the tv if there's a hockey game on in like a restaurant or something like that. I don't have cable. Happens to me too. So I don't have an easy way to watch.

The one time I subscribed for cable, I got a free trial right as the playoffs started so that I could watch the playoffs and then I cancelled it after. So yeah, I do like hockey, just no. But yeah, the boys are doing a bang up job

this year. Yeah. Fine, so you have built out your home network i know i guess as as you've already finished your home network are there any updates or changes you would have done i'm about to finish construction on a new home looking to upgrade my current 60 to wi-fi to seven oh wi-fi seven's amazing uh the good news is that nothing will prevent me from just swapping out 60 access points for seven uh when the time comes i'm not gonna bother until i have any seven devices in the house um more conduit i hey i replaced the display port cable to my lan pc it was damaged i i'm pretty sure 100% now that it was damaged because now that I have a new cable in,

it's working perfectly, but I was getting blanking issues. And it took about three hours to go from the mechanical room through the theater over to the LAN center, and then from the pole station in the LAN center over to PC1. We actually buried two extras in the wall, but they were both just short of long enough for PC1. Like, it would have been fine for station 2, 3, 4, or 5, but the conduit was a lifesaver. I mean,

it would have taken me forever. It would have taken me tens of hours of ripping out drywall and putting it back on and mudding and painting it like like it just if i wanted it embedded in the wall yeah more conduit is more better houses should just have conduit i probably would have run more fiber fiber's cool it's not necessary not for home but it's really cool i didn't know i was gonna do like land parties at my house though you know for like 50 users you know we're doing another one right yeah yeah when can be good i don't know chase is gonna work march march oh do we have a date no it'll probably get pushed we still don't know who's in the right on that one yeah i don't care it doesn't matter we were gonna get it done no matter what yeah all right the time the time a little bit actually

about uh certain things because of that now but you know yeah know. Yeah. Let's see, let's see. As someone who's gearing up to start a company, why are ethically run companies so rare nowadays? How do you instill company ethics in your new hires? I think we need to do a better job of

integrating new hires. We've grown really fast over the last couple of years. And I think that culturally we've struggled a little bit. That's totally not at all what the question was asking, but yeah. Like, oh, oh yeah. I guess they were asking about ethics, not culture. I consider ethics like a pretty key part of your culture though. No, he was asking how you do

it and you said i said we haven't done a great job but we have it points okay i mean i guess by me well do you not at all know how to do it well and it's not just that right like you also have to be willing to listen yeah like we've we've had we've had times when there's a lot of times from your perspective you won't see it whatever it is and so and a lot of times I still won't see it the first time someone brings it up. I mean, people's minds are hard to change, right? Including our own. And I'm not perfect.

I won't be. But I think just trying matters a lot. And I hate to be this guy, but a lot of non-ethical practices lead to successful businesses so that's probably why you see less of them yeah we've definitely created trouble for ourselves that we could have avoided by just lying cheating or stealing yeah and one one negative thing and i've brought this up a bunch, the example that I almost always use is the developer speaking on stage at Blizzard thing,

but it extrapolates to everything. But when a company does do something good by admitting something or doing whatever else, like anything on those realms, and then the community just... Assumes it's the tip of the iceberg. Spearheads them for it. Yeah. something or doing whatever else like anything on those realms and then the community just assumes it's the tip of the iceberg spearheads them for it yeah that can crush companies that are trying to do good things and just because the silent ones that are doing bad stuff you don't hear about

because no one's bothering to investigate or do anything like that um those companies end up living and it's like it's a problem i've brought this up a bunch of times on the show but i think sometimes uh certain communities don't understand um like i see this in pokemon go a lot i've started playing because it gets me out walking and people scream so much in that game all the communities like i was all excited like this is really fun there's like events every weekend like this weekend i'm planning on going out it's gonna be snowy whatever i'll chudge through it because there's some event do i really care about the pokemon no but it's some gamified thing that makes my brain want to go for a walk so i'm i'm diving in um but the community's just so

mad all the time like i'm all happily playing this game and i look into like what's going on on reddit or whatever else. And the whole thing is just a dumpster fire. And it's like, oh, wow. Okay. Don't have to be so mad about everything all the time. And I think sometimes people don't necessarily understand. They like really like this thing.

So they're really passionate about it. And then something about it bothers them. So they just scream to the mountains. And they don't necessarily understand that newcomers to this thing, also known as the thing that's going to help keep the thing that you like alive, are going to be scared off by the amount of hate that's being spread all the time. So like you kind of need to do the compliment sandwich thing more often and in more realms because like if you only ever point out the bad you never point out the good then adoption is going to fall and then this thing that you like clearly considering you're still playing or enjoying it or doing engaging with it or whatever it is um is going to just completely die and you won't have it anymore so try to remember that that applies to companies that applies to video games that applies to whatever

all right i think we've just got one or two more uh we had someone asking about oh did that get archived or answered or something all right see you later oh yeah no here it is michael asks what game do you think was most overhyped than underperforming versus the most unanticipated success so so underhyped and overperforming this year also this was the one i was more interested in what game do you think killed a studio the hardest this year because there was that um the golem didn't kill the studio no but that was that was a big blow that was that was probably the overhyped underperforming one yeah um what was that one that that recent one where they launched the game and it like was completely not what they said it was it's just a scam though i think that studio was dead no matter

what okay it definitely got killed really hard that's true i don't remember the name of it um oh pal world looking hot yeah that's that pokemon with guns thing i kind of want to try it um i don't remember the name of this game yeah the day after yeah i don't remember it was something kind of like that oh shoot i just accidentally archived one. All right. I don't know what it's called. But yeah, it was basically a scam, and then it got pulled because it was basically a scam. Something like that.

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