The WAN Show - I'm Frankly Disgusted - WAN Show November 4, 2022

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

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talk about that and how awful it is very shortly also middle east divisions of nvidia zotac asus gigabyte and others have apparently been demanding favorable coverage from reviewers which i think it goes without saying is absolutely unacceptable. Yeah, you took three topics. So now I'm a little bit thrown off. What I will say is I'm in France. If you can't tell, there's something different.

And there's actually some like really cool stuff that I would like to talk about. Oh, Monsieur Lafreniere! Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's been a problem. Everyone thinks I can speak about. Oh, Mr. Lafreniere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's been a problem. Everyone thinks I can speak it. Not a thing. Were you going to give any topics?

No, just the France thing. You took all the topics. That's four topics with the France thing. Well, that's fine. All right, then let's roll that intro. Let's go! This is gonna be rough. Yeah, it's not gonna be easy.

Alright, let's jump right into what even is our headline topic. We kept things kind of vague, allowing us to start with anything we want, I guess. Why don't we jump right into Intel On Demand? Was this the one that you were looking at in the doc going, Oh, really? Are you freaking kidding me? I'm doing my best Luke voice because you're not here to do the Luke voice. Yes, this is the one that I had that reaction to. It feels like we are getting the bmw heated seat subscription service intel has revealed details it's uncomfortable about

software defined silicon a capability of its next gen xeon processors intel i'ma let you finish but the other way of phrasing this is it is an incapability of next-gen Xeon processors unless you pay, okay? So the official name is now Intel On Demand, and it will, man, even the way this is worded from Alex Clark, probably copying directly from Intel's own press releases and announcements and whatnot, okay, so Intel On Demand will allow system administrators to pay extra to enable special purpose accelerators. Let me give you my version of that, okay? Intel On Demand will hold ransom features from system admins unless they pay extra, okay, that much is true,

to undisable special purpose accelerators. It's in the freaking hardware. You just unlock it. In the latest SDSI, so this is software-defined silicon Patch, it shows that Intel On Demand can do the following. Discover which features are physically present on a particular CPU, offer administrators to activate them, and enable administrators to assess how often they are used. It's currently unclear what exactly will be paywalled, but here are some of the accelerators on Intel's upcoming Sapphire Rapids platform that could potentially be paywalled. Advanced matrix extensions, dynamic load balancer, Intel data streaming accelerator, and Intel quick assist technology. Now, this time around, it's limited to the data center but intel has actually pulled this kind

of bull before in 2010 they tried to do a similar thing where you could unlock hyper threading and some cash on what's it was it a pentium cpu i can't remember whether it was an i3 or a pentium branded cpu it was a pentium cpu you would actually you could buy you could buy this card scratch off gently increase the performance of your gateway sx 2841-09e with the processor performance upgrade card well that's great i think you mean downgrade out of the box um i had no idea this was a thing that's horrible there's been a huge breadth of responses but with some people saying it makes sense and others absolutely hating it uh why don't we let luke go first i i feel like you've already had a pretty strong reaction to this over yeah there's um there's some things about it that I sort of understand.

This enables them to have less total SKUs. That seems fairly reasonable. There are some notes in here saying like, oh, that means that you might be able to get them for cheaper. I seriously doubt that's going to be a thing. I suspect all of these will just be price increases, a way of inflating the price without actually stating that on the sticker price on the box. I see a lot of, as your note that you just wrote out, I see a lot of benefits here for Intel, like being able to raise the price, but in an indirect way, by being able to have less SKUs, by being able to bin things in a particular manner, all this type of stuff.

By being able to generate ongoing... I don't see a single way... Ooh, this delay is really bad. Maybe by being able to generate ongoing income from a CPU that they used to just sell once. I mean, that's what investors want to see. They want to see recurring revenue. They do not care how many widgets you can sell in a quarter.

They care how many of those widgets you're still collecting money for a year, two years, five years down the road. Yeah, because this right now sounds like you're buying it one time. You're buying a single unlock. But, you know, the ball keeps rolling, right? I very definitely could see this moving into a subscription service instead. Gross. Gross. Gross.

And it's particularly frustrating for me to see this in the WAN doc this week because just earlier today, I actually finished shooting our full video about the situation where Pantone is holding users' colors hostage for $15 a month. Now, to be clear, this does not appear to be entirely Pantone's fault. Both them and Adobe are staying quite zip-lipped about the whole situation. But what we suspect is going on is that it is a breakdown in negotiations between the two companies that ultimately results in more money for them and a crummier experience a degraded experience for the user and i i don't understand how how

we're allowing this to happen like can you imagine okay going into a furniture store and them unilaterally deciding that they don't sell couches anymore. We're not going to sell you a couch, but you could rent one forever for over the lifetime of the product, two times or three times the cost of buying a couch. It's like, okay, cool, but I don't want that. I want to buy a couch.

Too bad. Yeah, the slow erosion of ownership of anything in our lives is not fun. I'm not a fan of it. So here's some general reactions. Cisco, IBM, and many others do this. So Intel's enterprise customers are already used to it that's i guess a fair enough reaction um you know it said here aws or azure will just buy what they need and no one will really care but i mean here's a response to that particular take no aws

will not simply buy whatever they need they will actually go build a team to develop their own arm-based graviton processors, and they will get them fabbed, and they will develop software that runs on them in order to say, f*** you, to moves like this. That's what's actually going to happen. In the short term, before companies can execute on a strategy like that yeah absolutely but i see this as a way that intel is turning the thumbscrews on their on their customers and these are customers that have the resources to go somewhere else this is terrible especially these days especially with amd killing it and like you were saying the opportunity for them to just make their own i think has like almost never been better i can't

say where i went this week i also went on a little trip this week can't say where but i will say that uh you know amd seem like cool guys with cool products. And that has nothing to do with this conversation that we're having around enterprise CPUs. But AMD, cool people, cool products. You know, like it. Like it. You know, red. Red products.

Okay, so here's another take. All right. Intel screwed. They seem to have this belief that no matter what their performance is, they're still the top dog. But in fact, their data center business is spiraling. It's circling the drain.

And Intel On Demand just seems to be a way to force their remaining customers to accept another bill to help them prop up that revenue stream so it doesn't look so bad. That one, I wholeheartedly agree with. Finally, the third kind of... Go ahead.

Oh, geez. This delay is bad. So, does it surprise you... I was trying to time it for the ending of your thing does it surprise you that this happened under pat gilsey well it didn't there's no way that this happened under pat because this is a thing that was obviously set in motion 24 to 48 months ago i am frustrated that um you know the the biggest move he's made that has driven intel's stock higher is not the huge investments in fab capacity is not the uh the the refocus on

engineering but rather the layoffs they laid a bunch of people off and immediately the stock goes up 10%. This is the kind of short-term thinking that absolutely drives me crazy about publicly traded companies and the way that Wall Street reacts to the behavior of companies with this eye for short-term gains and this utter obliviousness to long-term strategy. I'm frustrated. I think that for their stock in the short to medium term, this is probably a really good move, but I would like to think that an engineering minded person would have the stones to pull the plug on this sooner rather than later and figure out ways to deliver more value to the customer rather than extracting more money from the customer yeah yeah i do agree it has been pat by the way he's been ceo since february 15th of 2021 he's

been there for a bit. Probably not long enough to, you know, be there for when this was put in motion, but... Certainly long enough to have stopped it. Yeah. The final take, and I think you already kind of addressed this, is that Intel On Demand will allow for companies that don't require the features to buy CPUs cheaper. And sure sure if that

actually happens then fine but tell me this riddle me this compared to the competition how much cheaper is a model 3 that doesn't have the rear heated seats activated is it cheaper has anyone done the math on this because i'm pretty sure the Mach-E is pretty competitive. I mean, it kind of sits between the three and the, it's more of a Y competitor, but I think you guys get the point. No, that car is not $300 cheaper or even $100 cheaper. You just, you are paying for it. The hardware is going in. And in theory, yes, they can take that relatively minimal cost, spread it out, reduce their SKU count. Okay, so that's a clear benefit to a Tesla or an Intel. Reduce their SKU count by just putting in it every time. And then as long as enough people buy it for $300, that's

so much more than the cost that they can justify putting it into those cars where people don't pay for it at all but i promise you i give you my personal linus tech tips guarantee that tesla is not selling those cars at a loss intel is not selling any cpus at a loss and you are absolutely paying for anything that they put in it and if you weren't they would take it out so i'm i'm frustrated i'm uh i i i i don't know what else to say other than that this isn't even the most frustrating topic this week uh oh man you're gonna have to you guys are gonna have to really forgive me for butchering your names here uh mustafa and yasser from YouTube channel TechQuotes, relatively small channel, but big, okay? So 390,000 subscribers, they're based in the Middle East, have published a video revealing attempts by PC hardware companies to pressure them into altering product coverage. And I would love to say that I'm surprised, But the reality of it is that the PC industry, particularly globally, does not operate with the same set of norms that especially we in the Western media might take relatively for granted.

And I shouldn't even say take for granted and i shouldn't even say take for granted i mean did you see that uh that amazing piece that john oliver did on uh like sponsored health care products in news like what was basically keeping news like small-time news media alive in the u.s is like the quack cures and products and these segments that are essentially disguised as news, but actually full-on ads. And it was wild to me because for whatever reason, YouTube influencers are apparently more regulated than news media, which was mind-blowing to me.

But anyway, I'll tell you, from my experience in the industry, none of what I'm about to tell you actually surprises me that much. I want to make it clear that it doesn't mean that every single person who works for these companies is bad. A lot of what you're going to be observing is a very different cultural understanding of the role of media and this is something that we have absolutely seen in western from western branches of companies and in western media i'd say one of the most notable examples was that situation with hardware unboxed where Nvidia pulled something very similar essentially saying we are going to pull your ability to do launch day reviews if you don't adjust your tone regarding real-time ray tracing if you don't get a little more positive on this feature we feel

we've worked very hard on essentially holding, holding Hardware Unboxed's ability to bring people news coverage of these cards in a timely manner and affecting their revenue unless they were willing to be more positive. Now, obviously, Hardware Unboxed told them to take a long walk off a short pier, and so they should, but it absolutely shows that there's an attitude, particularly, particularly outside of Western circles towards media coverage, that it is essentially marketing. That essentially, these media companies owe their existence to the hardware manufacturers that they cover and should simply play by the rules or they can destroy them as easily as they created them so let's talk a little bit about what mustafa which will talk about that will

immediately kill any form of objective review and completely ruin the entire reason why literally any of us are here at all so yeah it's a big problem and the reason that any of you watch if all you were watching was an ad and it's not disclosed because it's not sponsored if all you're watching is whatever the manufacturer wants you to think well why don't you just watch their videos why don't you just why don't you just have a direct line to their pr department okay why don't they just beam a direct line to their PR department? Okay, why don't they just beam their messaging straight into your brain? Right?

That's the whole point of independent evaluation, is that we can have differences of opinion. Hardware Unboxed is allowed to think, feel, believe, that real-time ray tracing is not a huge deal today. They're allowed to think that. And I'm allowed to disagree. I'm allowed to think it's super cool. That's the whole point, right?

So let's talk about this. Mustafa showed screenshots of direct messages with Zotac slash NVIDIA reps pressuring him to take down a critical video because bad coverage, and I sh** not, bad coverage will lead to company layoffs. Well, who had the bad coverage of Twitter this week is what I want to know. Sorry, sorry, too soon.

Then, meanwhile, Asus was upset because Tech tech quotes his video about a motherboard launched a few hours after the 3 p.m embargo and after a different video about a gigabyte motherboard now this is something we've definitely seen before companies believing that when they provide a review sample, you are somehow obligated to hit an embargo time and date. Let me inform you, in case it was not abundantly clear before. Your embargo is your embargo. It is a time before which we agree to not publish the information. We are not under any obligation, no matter what motherboard or graphics card or monitor you've sent, we are not under any obligation to actually publish at that time. And if we feel there's a better time for our channel or for our staff to complete the work or for our audience to see it, maybe there was something we feel was more important for them to see first,

then that is absolutely a decision that we will make at our sole discretion, and you will deal with it. If you are upset, we can send you back the product if we ultimately decided not to cover it or whatever else, but we don't work for you. I'm not an Asus employee, not an NVIDIA employee. You're not my boss. The deal is, if the product is cool, we'll cover it. And if it's really cool, we're going to cover it super positively, and that's going to be great for your sales. And the risk you take is that if we don't like it and we don't cover it positively, and that's going to be great for your sales. And the risk you take is that if we don't

like it and we don't cover it positively, either through not reviewing it at all or negatively covering it, you take that criticism, you improve it, next time you bring us something better, and we love it, and you sell a bunch of them. That's the deal. That's how it works. And if we don't maintain our independence, then nobody will believe us anyway. And you're going to have no media and you're not going to get that positivity when you release something great. Like that's the thing they love. I mean, we especially saw this with the hardware unboxed thing. quotes on their website from Hardware Unboxed helping them boost the messaging for good products but then they're not willing to take the other side of that coin and it's the same thing with these guys here. Gigabyte meanwhile asked them to remove the name of a competing motherboard from a motherboard review. How are you supposed to review a product without mentioning a competing product?

And that's something that you expect from an advertisement or potentially a heavily sponsored video where there would be disclosures about the fact that this is a sponsored video. Of course. So the audience should expect these types of things. Of course.

Not a review. No, these were not sponsored videos that needs to be clear because there's a lot of sponsored content out there we do sponsored content and in a sponsored video you have to understand i'm never gonna lie to you okay i'm never gonna tell you guys something that i don't believe if i say it looks cool it's in a sponsored video that means i think it looks cool however every sponsored's in a sponsored video, that means I think it looks cool. However, every sponsored video does go under the microscope from the brand and every brand has their own policies. Okay. So some brands, oh man, I've got a great story for you guys, actually. Was it a sponsor? I think it

was a sponsored video, actually. Okay. This is a really good story. I won't say who it was, but some brands can be very liberal, okay? Like Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade, for example. As long as we had like some tie into Intel Tech, they were chill. They just wanted to be the presenting sponsor of Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade. And that's part of what made that content so great. But we've run into just utterly ridiculous situations with brands.

Okay. Um, I'm not going to name a specific name, but I will say that this particular brand is what's known as a Chai Bowl, I believe is the pronunciation, um, essentially a gigantic, uh, a gigantic organization in South Korea. Okay. This particular brand makes tvs okay uh so that narrows it down a fair bit but i'm not going to say which one but we did a sponsored video for this particular brand at some point and they literally okay i not they literally were upset about the color of some lights in our background because they felt that those, that color of light might elicit associations with

the other one of these brands. And we were like, okay, A, that color looks nothing like them, okay? So we're not even talking mentioning that brand, okay? This is the kind of petty stuff I'm talking about. We don't even name them. We literally just have a color of light in the background of the video. Are you even for real right now? I never heard about this. It's amazing.

Yeah, I actually hadn't heard about it either until I went on a trip recently with Colton. He was telling me about what this is why I'm so glad that I have a business team that acts as like, you know, that, you know, the meme with the like sleeping at night and then there's like the soldier absorbing all the knives. That is what our business team does for me, because that is the kind of thing that when we are trying to get a video over the finish line, OK, we're trying to get it out to the people to to enjoy, we hope. And and and that is a conversation I'm having.

I literally like get a splitting headache. Like it's not an expression. That level of stupidity actually makes my brain hurt. I can't. I just can't. And so they act as my shield so I can sleep peacefully at night not having to freaking worry about some stupid,

stupid color of light in the video. Color in the video. Unreal. All right. So I am apparently specifically mentioned at nine minutes and one second i wouldn't have known the time stamp but okay as an example of a large youtuber who can choose to not commit to publishing a video right when the nda lifts um quote can the largest corporation on the face of the earth argue with him about it definitely not but i would like to

point out to mustafa and yasser that that is actually not the case nvidia has um not basically okay i shouldn't say not spoken with me um but nvidia has not said more than one word more than they absolutely have to me, have to, to me, since the hardware unboxed debacle. It is very clear that I am in their bad books. And we absolutely can butt heads with brands large and small. Recently, we had that, I'd say that's not parallel. So I'm not going to talk about that. But what I will say is that it is true that we will probably still get seeded with review samples. So even right in the aftermath of that,

we did still get review samples, even if it was extremely coldly. My understanding is that LTT Labs actually has a bit of a better working relationship with NVIDIA. But again, this is still more evidence, as if I needed any more, that the cold treatment was absolutely personal and not anything to do with the content. absolutely personal and not anything to do with the content um so yes people do argue with me and we do sometimes get um you know i guess yelled at but i guess i guess you're right there was a situation uh amd launched i believe it was a i believe it was a gpu uh that we just didn't publish we didn't publish at embargo um i think we ended up like it not being a review it was basically just us talking about how this is

ridiculous and then nvidia had a i think a titan card that they just like dropped like they just launched didn't communicate anything about and we basically said yeah we're just never going to review this then forget it uh we're not gonna we're not gonna like play this stupid game where you guys just go boom there's a gpu go and then it's everyone competing to see who can pull the biggest all-nighter in order to get coverage of this up like that's that's ridiculous it's unprofessional and it's disrespectful so we basically just said, we're not going to do it. Mustafa claims that Gigabyte and or NVIDIA were upset about a video on the 2060 Super

that he did in collaboration with them. They asked him to take down the video and modify it. After he didn't, he claims NVIDIA shut him out during any new launch. The complaints that Mustafa received were, and this is mind-blowing,

AMD was mentioned a favorable call of duty benchmark graph came after other graphs and an amazon link was in the video description which all three of which are totally common practice in a review at the end of 20 the one thing the one thing that i'm not 100 certain about here and maybe it is a review but it says a video that he did in collaboration with them uh collaboration is just a review sample or like was there something more hmm you know what not 100% sure in our doc it sounds like it might have been like a some type of thing that's beyond a review

and at that point like I don't know unfortunately I'm not going to be able to provide any additional light on that hopefully someone who knows more about the situation can pipe in in the comments on the VOD or something like uh but at the end of 2019 nvidia apparently asked mustafa to make a marketing video with a script pre-written by them and label it as a review mustafa claims that if he didn't go along with nvidia's requests he would get blacklisted and that the same mail he received was forwarded to all content creators out there amd apparently completely refuses to send them anything so they have to buy stuff i

mean that's fair enough you don't have to engage with every single media outlet in the world where things go wrong is when you try to coerce the ones that you are engaged with or even are not engaged with try to try to manipulate the rules of engagement so that you can ensure that all media who cover you are favorable apple's at least smart about it their rules are all unwritten so they will just cut you off if you step out of line and they will only invite people who have a long perfect history of covering apple the way that apple likes to be covered um so i mean at least you have to give them credit for being better at being insidious bastards i guess uh one issue too is like yes they don't they don't have to engage with every

reviewer um i mean we we didn't send the screwdriver to every single person that has ever shown a tool on camera on YouTube. But it is a little brutal when you are trying to do this as your mainline thing. Like this isn't a small creator, it's 390,000 subscribers, right? Not being able to get these things early is going to be a performance nerve for his ability to grow his channel. Absolutely. So by doing stuff like this by pulling these things from these creators you are directly attacking their livelihoods and directly attacking the ability of your customers in these regions to get information

about your products which is pretty stupid um the last thing is mustafa says that they tried to make a 4090 review using an rog strix gaming gpu but the card wasn't posting on all platforms he had to experiment for 12 days to come up with a solution and after he finally got it working asus had him send the card back without finishing the review sometimes that is how things work especially with bigger items i mean we have to send things back all the time um but it's frustrating that he wasn't able to finish the review. Like, if the issue was with the card, I'm sure Asus could, like, make another 4090 if they need one for something, rather than take this one back. However, sometimes there is a limited number of

review samples in the budget, and the card has to go to the next reviewer. We've seen that many times as well. So our discussion question here is, why does this keep happening? Is the only way for these companies to be kept honest by large YouTubers calling them out? And what if TechQuotes, sorry, that's the name of their channel. What if TechQuotes hadn't had the stones to speak up publicly? I wouldn't have even known. Like, that's the thing is, you know,

I've been told before, like, Hey Linus, you have this perception of how great this company is to work with, but it's, it's only you dude. Um, maybe they're just like afraid to tick you off because you're going to go on

WAN show and do a 20 minute tirade on how awful they are and how stupid they are, which is a very real possibility to be pretty effective sometimes but like if they hadn't if they hadn't been willing to speak up how are we going to know about it what's the solution i uh i don't think there is one. I think we have to keep doing what we do, which is rage loudly every single time it happens, because hopefully that will reduce the amount of times that it can happen. But we're in a situation where you have these absolutely gigantic, untouchable companies that can just beat around these relatively small creators. And I'm not trying to bash on anyone by saying relatively small. But those are the easiest targets for them to go after.

Those are the easiest people for them to try to control, because any impact on those people's livelihoods is going to be a more brutal hit, basically. They have a higher chance of being able to control these people and it's really good when people like tech quotes don't don't take that yeah um don't back down don't take it on the chin they fight back they reach out it's it's it's good it's scary um and i i definitely applaud the bravery and hopefully we can help by broadcasting it here, but man, you know, what is, you know, what's kind of a maybe dumb concept that I had for the lab was like a, um, like if there's niches that we don't cover,

maybe having like a, like, I don't know, I don't know how we would make this work but maybe there's like uh like a special line of merch or something like that that you know some of the proceeds go to this like slush fund that's like a way for the community to nominate uh like certain reviewers for certain categories maybe especially ones we don't really cover uh where we can essentially sponsor like small reviewers who are doing really exceptional work or or something like that like i i don't know how do you specialize people yeah how do you how do you take the the distribution of review hardware out of the hands of the most conflicted entity in the entire transaction

well that's where you always have the problem though is the embargo right because yeah youtube viewers will get mad about things like clickbait titles and thumbnails but they work and they're because they work it's extremely important for people to do at least a certain amount of it you can debate where that line is, but you're going to have to do some amount of it. You have to make your, your video very enticing to click on. Another really important thing on YouTube when it comes to embargoed hardware is releasing your video on time. If you're late, you're going to get way less views.

So to a certain degree, unless we find some way to start handing out embargoed hardware to reviewers, which is like not going to happen. There's, there's a limit on how much we can help in that way. Cause just being able to buy things while very noble is not actually enough. If you want your YouTube channel to be able to perform better, you know, got it.

Tech quotes is apparently in the chat over on YouTube. Um, YouTube chat is really not the best way to, uh, yeah, to, to talk to you. Um,

but Hey, thank you so much for tuning in and to speak to you directly now, then thank you so much for tuning in. And to speak to you directly now, then, thank you so much for talking about this. Because this behavior will never go away as long as they get away with it. There is a hashtag. So hashtag respect underscore ME underscore PC underscore community. If you want to put some pressure on these hardware manufacturers,

that is absolutely the hashtag to use. But I guess that's going to depend on how much you're going to be using Twitter over the next little bit. That transition is amazing. The first week of Elon Musk's ownership of Twitter has been, no matter who you are, no matter what side you're on of whatever conflict you feel like you're engaged in, it's been a ride. On Tuesday, Elon tweeted that Twitter Blue is going to cost $8 a month. This was after debating with Stephen King of all people the cost.

was after debating with Stephen King of all people, the cost for users who pay the fee, you will get a blue check mark priority and replies, mentions and search. This one is a pretty deep conversation, but we'll get to that. Whether a public square free speech platform should prioritize users who can afford to pay. It seems like exactly the kind of concept

a billionaire would come up with. You'll get the ability to post long video and audio and half as many ads. I love that you don't even get the ads removed. It's not zero. That was honestly the thing that I reacted to the most when I saw it.

It's like, really? I still get ads? Come on. It's not even cheap. It's $8. That's a lot. lot yeah which is hilarious uh there's i can't believe they didn't go with the relatively industry standard five like like for so many different things on the internet you want a subscription for it it's five bucks five bucks five bucks all over the place and they're like no eight eight and they give you less yeah

well i mean it was it was it, it was Elon's excellent negotiation skills. He said 20, Stephen King said too much, and Elon's like, how about eight? Eight. Okay, sure. Now, this raises some serious questions, okay? So starting with the blue checkmark, well, what are we going to do about public figures who were, as far as I can tell, the reason for verification in the first place to avoid impersonation? Twitter will

apparently give them a secondary tag under their name, like state official. Now, this is really funny because by doing this, Twitter actually negates or like eliminates the prestige of the blue check mark in the first place now everyone's gonna want a secondary tag because here's the thing guys okay you don't want some crap stupid like little icon that anyone can buy for eight dollars if you are if you are if you want to be like if you want to you know throw your your gonads around you want to be someone who can get special treatment without paying for it right you want the exclusivity so nobody's gonna want the eight dollar check mark anymore everyone's to want a secondary tag now, obviously. Except they will,

except they will because of that one that you pointed out. Priority replies, mentions and search. That's actually huge. I think that brands will pay for it. I think that it is extremely unlikely that regular users will pay for that.

I strongly disagree. Do for that i strongly disagree do you i strongly disagree i think up-and-coming creators are going to be all over that okay well i guess we're going to have a look i mean up-and-coming creators spend a lot more than eight dollars a month on equipment for twitch streaming for example and that's basically breaking it breaking out in twitch streaming is basically the odds are like winning the lottery so clearly people are are willing to to spend money in order to try to make it on social media uh one funny result yeah go ahead you see um oh man i just went totally off the rail oh you see articles all the time about how so many kids in north america stuff want to become youtubers and and tiktokers and whatnot when they get older it i think it's going to become one of those things

where like you know everyone who starts a business all they they want to go get business cards even if they don't need them they want to go get pens with their new company name on it even if they don't need them they want to do all those little things they feel like is the right thing that they're supposed to do yep and i think he's trying to make the check mark become one of those things you want to you want to be a known person on the internet you need a check mark or else you're not going to be known because you're not going to be prioritized in search so no one's going to be able to find you yeah um i don't know i guess i'm going to be a great test case for this because i'm not buying one so yeah we'll see we'll see how

this goes um notably i am not verified already so there's no blue check mark to take from me i will say though that the ltt official handle will probably pay for twitter blue we might already pay for twitter blue on that handle so uh i i'll leave that up to the social team but that's that's corporate expense i'm not. I'm not personally... $100 a year? Are you high again? Like, I just... I can't.

I can't, man. Yeah, let me do it. I'll do a poll. What Flowplane people are going to do. Meanwhile, to demonstrate the issues with paywalling verification rather than verifying based on an actual need, like as a public service for the community on the platform, many, many Twitter users, both with and without check marks, have been impersonating Elon Musk.

And the only funnier thing than that is how quickly they've been getting banned. This is one of my favorites. Gosh, I wish I'd left someone on staff to make sure this is me. Oh, no. All right. So that was Tuesday. On Wednesday, reports came out that Twitter might allow users to post video and put them behind a paywall. Only tweets anyone?

Essentially, Twitter's becoming even more porn than it already was. This might actually be the smartest move of all. Like, but, there is a flip side. Dang it, Luke, which one was the platform that was like basically all porn and then they banned porn and then it was dead when like yahoo bought it tumblr tumblr was the one um so it's pretty clear that porn can be an enormous part of what keeps uh a community like a social media platform uh alive and and. The problem with porn is that currently a big part of Twitter's business model is advertising and advertisers, a lot of them are super not down with porn and the

kinds that are, are not the kinds that you want to be scrolling past when you're sitting on the bus. So I guess we'll see how that goes then on that being said there is a lot of it already on twitter oh yeah oh for sure man i clicked on a i clicked on a uh like a trending topic that was like dismay or something like that or disappointment or something it was some totally unrelated word and one of the first pictures i saw was not quite full nude pornographic but boy was it close and i'm like i'm at work thankfully i have like a private office but that's not the kind of thing that i expect to see when i'm just idly browsing an app like my kids are not allowed twitter no way twitter is dangerous to scroll through it like the amount of times that

someone that i follow because like i i like know this person and i think they're cool and then it's they have like the 1am probably didn't mean to click on it tweets that end up showing up in mine because it's like corny on me you know like this i'm like i don't want to i don't want to know that you like that i just yeah this doesn't enhance my relationship with you in any way not not trying to kink shame or anything it's just not necessary that's fine i just i just don't i don't need it in my twitter feed that's all that's all i'm saying i don't know if this is actually true can you guys can you guys does anyone actually know if this is actually true. Can you guys, can you guys, does anyone actually know if this happened? There's someone said that an outgoing Twitter employee

suspended Elon Musk's account on the way out. I find that kind of hard to believe because that could be, that could result in some kind of action. And we know that Twitter basically locked everyone out, then announced that there were going to be mass layoffs, then did it, and then let everyone who was being... Yeah, apparently it was fake.

Yeah, that makes sense. I find that Conrad says it's true. Snopes debunked it, though. All right, sounds like this is very much a developing conspiracy theory. All right, Sounds like there's sounds like this is very much a developing conspiracy theory. All right. Then Thursday, Musk directed Twitter's teams to find over one billion dollars in infrastructure savings. That evening, a memo was sent internally confirming that Twitter would be laying off 50 percent of the staff. So you're going to do this big project and you're going to have half as many people to do it. Let's go. Employees took to Slack to bid their farewells. And this morning, employees were notified about their job status, either by email to their official Twitter email or by email to their personal email. And that should give you some idea which email the message came to, whether you were still

going to be working at Twitter or whether you were not anymore. The departments affected appear to include product trust and safety, policy, communications, tweet curation, ethical AI, data science, research, machine learning, social good, accessibility, and even certain core engineering teams. In an FAQ, impacted employees were told if they sign a release all claims document, they'll get one month of base pay severance. But then Elon just tweeted that everyone was offered three months of severance. Also, there's a class action that's going on already that former Twitter employees are signing on to because terminating in the state of California with less than 60 days of notice is actually not allowed. So it's going to be Elon versus California round 65. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, pretty cool. Something that I think is pretty interesting

is that I sent Linus some stuff on this earlier in the week, but it wasn't just Twitter that has had like massive recent layoffs. And there's been lots of other ones. But I think on one day, like four or five different companies laid off between 10 and 20% of their staff. And then Twitter also laid off 50% of their staff. The amount of Guild experience developers that are flooding the market with with job applications is going to be a very interesting thing to witness. But also something that I think is going to be kind of interesting is the impact on service companies. Something that has become a massive business is becoming a service company that can provide a slightly better experience that can save almost any amount of time for developers. There's tons of different things out there. And when, you know, many tens of thousands of them are fired in the span of a few months, I wonder what's happening to those

companies. And I wonder if a lot of those companies are going to have to fire people. And this whole thing is just going to turn into a cyclical nightmare. Because, yeah, a lot of subscriptions are getting canceled, I'm pretty sure, right now. Well, here's the thing, right? Like, the recession has been looming for some time. Some domino has to be the first to fall and tech i mean the tech sector has been taking an absolute pummeling for the entire year um i personally am not as affected by it i don't like i don't have investments in any tech stocks other than framework right so okay and that's uh that's not even a publicly traded

company so i have no idea what that investment is actually worth day to day you can't yeah you can't like open up your phone and be nauseated by watching your you know entire net worth drop by four percent one day you know like it just doesn't really work like that. Speaking of which, I mean, NVIDIA is having a good day today. So is Coinbase, of all people. Snap is down again, but that's nothing new. That's how that works. I do track it just to kind of have some idea what's going on. It's interesting.

I'm not affected by it. But I will be, more broadly. I mean, how many of you guys watching uh okay a bunch of you are gonna lie but i'm sure there are people watching right now that are only watching the land show because they're not busy at work at twitter like it's i'm serious it's it's a huge part like it's it's always hilarious to me when i walk into like a software company and try to go anywhere right like if i walk into a google office you know never mind like the youtube staff that are actually you know supposed to be escorting me and stuff but just just like random people will pop out of cubicles be like i know that voice like it's it's a it's a huge part of our audience so the the impact on on our business

could be enormous right so it'll end and as soon as it impacts us well all of a sudden you know you can see how this belt tightening right it just rolls down the hill rolls down the hill until all of a sudden everyone has tight belts maybe they could get a new one, LTTstore.com. I'm actually wearing a prototype LTT belt. I mean, it's just a belt, but like... An interesting bit too is like... It's quality. Traditionally, if an absolute massive ton

of skilled developers rolled into the job market all at the same time, it wouldn't even matter because there's companies that are trying to hire basically as aggressively as possible at all points of time. So all these people just get scooped up right away but a lot of

corporations right now if they're not doing layoffs they're they're very likely freezing uh incoming employees so they're not hiring and there's new graduates the graduates don't stop coming. Yep. We saw this in the pharmacy, local in the BC pharmacy market shortly after Yvonne graduated. She went straight out of school into a management position for Costco. And like two years later, like two classes after her,

basically people were like shipping out to tiny towns of a couple thousand residents in order to find any kind of possible work. Like it happens overnight because there's this, there's this push and pull effect, right? So you pump out more graduates and then demand is, uh, is, is met and then, you know, wages are suppressed and then people don't really go into these programs and then you run out of new and then people don't really go into these programs and then you run out of new graduates and it's like oh no now there's some people retiring and then all of a sudden uh wages go up and people enroll and they over enroll and then

you know it's like it's this it's a cyclical thing right so it looks like we're heading into a pretty pretty rough cycle pretty rough cycle including for twitter because that poll might as well be completed at this point and four percent of people said that they were going to get twitter blue oof that's honestly slightly higher than i expected that's that's that's a yikes that's a yikes right there still if four percent of the users on twitter bought twitter blue i mean that would be a revenue source we just have to hope that it'll outweigh the advertisers that they might tick off with their only tweets, paid video posts.

Well, didn't he say something? I don't know if it's in the doc, but I think he said something about a pretty massive amount of advertisers literally already leaving the platform. I think twitter's revenue has seen a noticeable decrease already by like a double digit percentage cool um i mean yeah with how one of the things advertisers like left wing right wing, you know, tech or farming equipment, whatever, right?

Okay, a thing that advertisers like is that the platforms and publications that they work with have consistency and stability. And right now, no matter what my leanings were, religious, political, or whatever else, right? Like pick a hot button topic and let's say that, one side or the other. What I would not like is the amount of upheaval that I've seen on the platform in just the short week that Elon's been in charge. And this is not one of our discussion questions, but this is something that i want to pivot to is how terrifying is it i actually didn't realize until the whole you know meta investment fiasco just zuckerberg wanting to spend like tens of billions of dollars a year on the metaverse even though his investors hate it i didn't actually realize until I was digging into some articles about that, that he owns 55%

of the voting shares of Facebook. I didn't realize he was the sole monarch of Facebook. I thought, yeah, public company, he's probably sold off a significant amount of it, and he has, but the voting shares are still held majority by mark zuckerberg so think about this for a minute between mark zuckerberg and elon musk basically the entire text-based social media mainstream social media ecosystem is completely controlled by two billionaires i mean if you include tv and radio doesn't it just make it three billionaires um well no because you've got uh murdoch and you've got yeah bezos owns the washington post um like no matter which no matter which side you're on right that's bad that's terrible it's unacceptable we're in trouble for real oh yeah definitely yeah bloomberg is another one

people mentioned also i found the exact quote. He said, Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue due to activist groups pressuring advertisers. Massive drop in revenue. Sounds a little spooky considering it's only been one week. Yeah, that explains why he's trying to get apparently this Twitter blue thing with the verified users rolled out by like Monday.

That's going to be pretty tough given that you're not even able to get access to your office with your badge i think until monday so um good luck with that oh man oh man things. Things are interesting. More fun news? Party in A3? No, we should do sponsor spots. The show is brought to you today. Bye. Thanks to NordPass for sponsoring today's show.

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You can use the link in the show notes to learn more. What do you want to jump into now, Luke? What do you want to jump into now? Is there any good news? I think RDNA 3. Yeah, we could talk about RDNA 3. RDdna3 is good news right i think so you sure you don't want to talk about the worst active noise cancellation on airpods that people thought they might be imagining but actually turned out to be true apple downgraded the airpods sure yeah we can talk about that yeah do we have in here why yeah the patent troll stuff yeah but you got that in here okay so this first broke when users honestly really sad yeah users felt

like hey what's going on here apple released the airpods pro 2s and they're like they're up to two times the ANC. But I could have sworn my AirPods Pro 1s had better ANC, like a few months ago. So it turns out that that actually happened. Apple did downgrade the active noise cancellation in some of their products. Ratings.com, R-T-I-N-G-S, that's how they spell it apparently,.com recently confirmed that active noise cancellation has gotten worse on the airpods max following firmware update for e71 i should be happy apple has no way to update firmware other than connecting to an iphone because my airpods pros still work great um so firmware update for e71 back in may many people assumed this was a case of forced obsolescence making the product worse to boost sales of its successor. Reddit user FacingCondor has laid out well-cited research

indicating, though, that Apple may instead be quietly replacing the ANC tech in their products to protect themselves in an ongoing lawsuit against a patent troll company, Jawbone Innovations, who acquired what was left of defunct Bluetooth headset maker Jawbone back in 2017. I remember Jawbone Innovations, who acquired what was left of defunct Bluetooth headset maker Jawbone back in 2017. I remember Jawbone. Huh, what a thing. Jawbone Innovations sued Apple in September 2021 for infringement of eight noise cancellation patents, and the next month Apple released a firmware update for the AirPods Pro 1 that reduced its ANC effectiveness. There's some debate about

when the ANC effectiveness was actually reduced. It may have been earlier, but this would still make sense given that the patent troll was probably trying to renegotiate before, or was trying to negotiate before suing. A year later, AirPods Pro 2s were released with up to two times ANC improvements. It seems likely we'll see something similar happen with AirPods Max. Facing Condor claims that making product changes may reduce Apple's chances of facing a ban on imports or sales during the trial. Discussion question. Things aren't always as they seem.

Should we apologize to Apple for all the times we've assumed things about them? No. Okay, fair enough. I think we should just do this type of reporting as well we should point out when there was some cloak and dagger stuff going on in the background for sure um and we should i i think it's good that apple has been working to try to make improvements despite the patent trolling going on and i think we should give them that pat on the back. But no, I don't think you should apologize for what we've said in the past because there's no way for us to know

that this is what's happening. And we still need to do, as reviewers, we still need to look critically at companies. So it is what it is. By the way, Luke, do you want to talk a little bit about what you're doing over there? Floatplane Chat is trying to find you right now, by the way. Oh, I don't think that's going to work.

I don't think I'm in a very descript area right now. But yeah, I'm in France. You know, latency is one thing. I also probably have a little bit of brain latency because it's 2.30 in the morning for me right now. Oh, actually, sorry. I've been up since like 6. I'm getting yelled like six i'm getting yelled at i'm getting yelled at luke one second okay we do want to know what's going on uh but nick is asking me to point out that the color block hoodie which has was delayed

for over a year is finally on lttstore.com finally color block hoodies in short circuit colorway tech linked colorway tech quickie colorway and ltt colorway finally there the delay here was mostly down to making sure that the dark colors wouldn't bleed into the light colors in the wash and that the drawstrings wouldn't bleed onto the um the color under them and it And it was a real hassle getting that right on the Tech Quickie one, for example. Actually, it was a real hassle getting that right on all of them. But these things are flipping sick.

They're $49.99. They're super comfy zip-up hoodies. They are definitely an out loud kind of style. I personally absolutely love the look i fell in love with it when lloyd first pitched me this man it must have might have been almost two years ago um what's a colorway oh that's a that's a good question a colorway think of it like a palette swap but in real life okay so a palette swap is a sprite that's the same, but just different colors. And a colorway is a product that's

the same, but just in different colors. Yeah, it's like a legendary pallet swap skin in a game. It costs about the same amount, but you get a physical thing instead of the digital one. It's great. We have another announcement. You can now get our old school 20 packs of cable ties in black

and white as a free item in checkout. So I believe our items are shoelaces, sticker packs, and cable ties. Also, we've got, oh, this is interesting. We are looking for some feedback from our audience regarding style and fit for women's clothing. I want to make this very clear before I post the link. Only answer if you are comfortable doing so. We are not going to be doing anything with this data other than using it to help inform what types of fits and styles we should develop for women's clothing. Because something that, well, you know, Brid hannah alamadey okay the creator warehouse

team knew but i did not fully understand before getting into this is that women's clothing is a lot more difficult than men's clothing like there is just so much diversity in body shape that I just, I mean, I'm not like, I'm not checking out every woman I see. Like, I don't, I'm not, I ain't looking that close, you know? And so the second we started hiring models to come in and help with fit or, you know, having people internally try things and like Yvonne's putting things on for me at home and asking me what I think, I realized that, wow, compared to men's garments, which basically just comes down to, do you need a paunch pocket or do you not?

In terms of making it more flattering, women's garments are a whole just whole different can of worms so yeah we're going to go ahead and we're going to post this link i want to make it very clear that this is intended for people who would like to be able to shop at the store but find that we are not doing a good job of accommodating your body type, um, just to, to help, to help inform us, um, and help us understand, like,

are you, are you guys after, you know, this type of fit or that type of fit? Well, what do you want to see? What do you want to see? So there it is.

I have spammed it into all the different chats. Go ahead and check that out. And now Luke, what are you doing in all Franceance yeah so um shadow brought me out here if you guys don't know what shadow is there's been a few videos uh of them on the ltd channel before uh but they're like you you install this application on your computer you run it and then you can access a high-performance computer in the cloud, whatever. Cool.

Sounds good. They're rolling out something. I think they actually rolled it out last week called a power upgrade, which is basically they have this one server and they divide it into eighths. So you get one eighth of an Epic CPU. You get exactly one. Talking to the engineer about this was really interesting

this didn't really end up in the video too much other than just referencing it vaguely but you get exactly one dim of ram and they actually make sure that your vm specifically only calls to that oh that's super cool so you get a single channel single channel bandwidth but you will never be colliding with anyone else's requests essentially a little bit faster because it doesn't have to scan across multiple bins it is only ever addressing that one and then you get one full gpu and the reason why i'm just saying gpu is because that part is going to be a little bit more variable right they're planning on working with radion in the future i saw them working with um uh crap what was it quadro 4500s i believe anyways yeah you you so you can get like a sick computer basically their thing is they they can

run 1080p 240 or 4k 60 and it's all through vm so they they got it one interesting one oh no i can't say that yeah don't get us in trouble talking about this at40 in the morning is scary. But yeah, it was sweet. So we went to OVH Cloud's R&D and manufacturing facility, and we were able to see where they designed their own water blocks and they designed their own full copper water cooling runs. Okay, that's cool. That's really sweet. Because every single server at OVH, every single one, no matter the spec is water cooled.

So they have like this really crazy infrastructure for all that. I'll get to that in a moment. So, yeah, but we get to see their R and D facility for all this stuff. A lot of that, I wasn't able to show on camera, but it's sick.

A bunch of the companies in the area around that facility are like there because of them so there's like sheet metal manufacturing and they will make the custom rack mounts and chassis for ovh which are like stamped by ovh and everything there's pcb manufacturers that are making these dual pci express riser cards because they take these graphics cards that they get in, they completely pull all of the stock, like, cooling hardware off of it, fans, radiators, they scrape off all the thermal paste, everything, pull it down to the absolute very minimum, put on their own custom designed, like, heat sinks or water blocks blocks sorry i'm tired um and and then they sandwich them together they make it so that two of these like these were quadro 4500s two of them

is literally that thick wow so like do they have to kind of do they have to kind of 69 them in order to make that work with the IO or what? No, they're the same way because they're not running IO, right? Oh, right. Okay, fair enough. Yes, it doesn't matter. But yeah, so they put four of these sandwiches of two into one server. And then they showed like, they load Linux onto it over the network. And then they have this macro pad where they put inputs into Linux that just type out these long commands and they benchmark it on the spot.

They can turn the water cooling on and off. So they test to make sure the water cooling is working. They put it under load. They test that, blah, blah, blah, blah. They build it all together. Super sick. And then from there, we went to there's a really cool way if you can speak French properly, I call it Gravelines. I think they call it like Gravelines or something.

I'm going to, that pronunciation is horrible. I'm sorry. But we went to the actual massive data center. Man, the stuff I couldn't show on camera was so cool. But the stuff that I could show on camera was also really cool so it's okay it's still gonna be really interesting okay but they have like again the entire place is water-cooled right right so like the pumps and reservoirs that they have are just crazy like i walked on top of one of their backup reservoirs, one of their many backup reservoirs,

their reservoirs outside are so gargantuan that I wasn't even able to show them on camera. They didn't want to show how they did it. They have heat exchangers that are external to the building. So they, they pump all the hot water out, heat exchange it outside and then pump the cold water back in. And there's's a 15

to 20 degree difference in the pipes. You can touch one pipe that's coming into the building and it's nice and cool. It feels chilly. Then you move your hand and touch the other one and it's slightly above room temperature. Wow. Just wild. The whole thing

is crazy. They're coming for me. They're backup reservoirs. We were able to look into one of them. It looks like a super advanced borderline space age pool skimmer. They have these pool skimmers going around. They have these constant pH checks because they're water cooling this entire building. So if it gunts, that's horrifying. They have power lines coming into the building that look like you're receiving power lines into a city.

They have 220,000 volt industrial way above the ground power lines that are coming in on towers into the building. If those fail, they have a bunch of underground 20,000 volt power lines. If all of that, which is like basically never going to happen, but if all of that goes down, they have a series of these massive generators that they can run for 14 hours straight and each one of the generators they have a bunch of them each one of them produces one megawatt of power what what do they run on nuclear power and they don't even really use them because they have both of the the standard setups for power right right the the whole thing was just it was uh it was really it was very cool man i wish i'd gone i mean i was seeing some reasonably cool stuff too but not not not quite like that uh now seems like cold room water cooling on steroids i forgot to talk about the

pumps i thought this was actually pretty cool. They had massive pumps, like kind of all around the building, right? You'd see them in a bunch of different locations, but they're always in pairs. And pretty early on, the guy that was giving me the main tour mentioned that they only run one of the two at a time, but they swap every day. The whole data center will swap to the other pump every day during the work week. And then on weekends, they don't. But they do that to keep the same amount of worked hours on each one. And because if they're swapping that constantly, they're going to know if it's working or not. So they reduce failures that way.

Interesting. There's a lot of cool little insights like that. But yeah, it's going to be sweet. Check out the video when it comes out. But yeah, Shadow brought us out there to show what stuff they've been doing recently and how they're doing their power upgrade and all that jazz, which is really awesome. They worked with, this part didn't actually make it into the video at all. So this is purely additional information. But they worked with Bandai Namco for Elden Ring.

So when they gave reviewers review copies, instead of giving them review copies, they gave them shadow cloud PCs with Elden Ring installed. So that way they don't actually have to distribute the software. Yeah. So they didn't have to send them the software yeah so they didn't have to send them the software so they didn't have to worry about it being copied they put watermarks on all the screens that you couldn't do anything about so that's pretty smart there and then bandai namco was able to watch all of the reviewers playing their games on like big tv screens back at their

office oh that's pretty sick totally makes sense that's what i guarantee you that's where the entire game review industry is going to go for pre-release stuff yeah like hey we noticed that you couldn't get over that thing uh this is how to do it uh we've discussed it with the team and we're gonna add this indicator to man yeah oh that's genius that's genius uh people are asking on floatplane chat is the streaming that good quality i've tried out shadow before it was surprisingly usable yeah yeah it's good it's good um i saw i saw a suit i'm not supposed to call the super chat i saw a merch message come up and uh someone asked they said that their couch ripper pillow has absolutely

been stolen by their cat who sleeps on it all the time and asked if we have considered pursuing pet beds the answer is yes uh this is the first mock-up for two different pet beds uh one of them is like a classic tower inspired pet bed ll Lloyd really wants to do these accompanying hardware themed pillows. I don't want to. I think that just the bed is fine. And then also a monitor one that has kind of like a cool pixel art thing inside. So they'll be kind of like fuzzy pillowy beds that'll either be like a a case with the side panel popped open or a crt monitor that your pet can go inside and sleep so i just wanted to

to get that out there pretty cool in my opinion um yeah people are pretty pretty stoked yes if we can figure it out we will be we will be super super in um we'll be super excited uh we also need to talk about rdna3 i mean i guess there's not really there's not really that much to say that we didn't say in the video yesterday it's a return to competition i never thought i'd be so excited to see a thousand dollar and a nine $900 GPU, and yet here I am. Not because I'm excited about a $900 GPU, but because I'm excited about what it indicates about the pricing of the rest of the stack, that we might be going back to real-world land

instead of the fantasy land that NVIDIA's CEO lives in, where people, like real people, can spend $1,600 on a GPU. It's just ridiculous. For those of you who missed our video yesterday, AMD was very vague about the performance of the upcoming 7900XTX. That's the $1,000 variant. But they did give us relative performance

compared to the 6950XT at 4K. We were able to get some information about the test benches that they were running and extrapolate performance based on drag racing a 6950 XT and an RTX 4090 and then applying AMD's cited performance uplift to the 6950 XT to give some idea of what a 4090 versus 7900 XTX shootout is going to look like. As anticipated, if you kind of have been paying attention to the industry for a while, NVIDIA pushed the 4090 just hard enough to maintain the performance crown and no harder than that. Their thermal and their power consumption targets were clearly designed to make sure that they maintained the upper hand so that they could maintain their price premium, but didn't go any harder out of fear, maybe, of harming the reliability of the product. It's too early to say how accurate our estimates are,

given the up to 1.7 times faster might be when you're directly looking at a wall. Or into the skybox or whatever, right? It's also possible that AMD fut futz to the numbers but if they didn't it looks like one heck of a fast gpu and it looks like the rtx 4080 16 gig based on nvidia's published numbers might get absolutely destroyed by the 7900 xtx while costing 200 dollars more it's pretty dumb what has become a selling point for a gpu under a thousand dollars supports the latest version of displayport doesn't risk burning your house down won't

require a power supply upgrade and should physically fit in your computer case like really that's the bar amd had to meet in order to impress me they met it though maybe yeah we'll see uh anthony's exciting though i i'm i'm happy about this i i agree with you i am more happy about this for not this card but the other cards in the stack yeah um i still think in in current years spending a thousand dollars on a gpu is like crazy um but yeah it hopefully means very good things for the cheaper cards of the stack uh our discussion question here is do you think this will even pressure nvidia or are they so entrenched in normie gamers' minds that this won't even be a problem for them? I think that's a very real possibility. I think that NVIDIA will just keep competing with themselves.

NVIDIA only races against one company, NVIDIA. I think it was back when maybe 960 or 1060 launched, where they stopped comparing in their reviewers guides to other companies' cards and just started comparing to their own card from three years ago, showing what an upgrade this is for GeForce gamers. I was like, okay. But it's working for them. I mean, that's absolutely what Apple does, for the most part. Actually, they provided a little more comparative performance data in the last couple of years. I think that's as fudged as it might have been. I guess that's an improvement. Now's probably as

good a time as any for us to do some merch messages. we have anything else oh there's an update oh goodness there's an update on the 12 volt high power uh connector uh oh boy um john jiro has a good write-up on it maybe i'll just show this to you guys okay so it's from his blog and you guys can go check it out but basically it's a little more complicated. And this is an opinion piece, he says. So it's not meant to be the be all and end all and it's a living document, but it may be a little more complicated than just bad, cheap adapters. So really good write up. You guys are going to want to check it out. Let me just see if the summary here is pretty good. Latty ah yeah it looks like

even some native cables are melting not just adapters that's pretty rough um the cables are based on the same specifications as the adapters so this power supply uses 18 to 24 gauge wire for the 12 plus 4 pin connector for those unaware unaware, 24 gauge wire is rather thin. One major point that John says is to note that there are four layers of two ounce copper on the PSU power PCB, which is regular, but now they're moving to twice as much power in the same space as a single eight pin connector. So this won't cut it anymore. And also apparently the spec is supposed to be 16 gauge for the wires. and that's what the connectors have room for. So the discussion question is, how much of this is user error, you know, like cranking on connectors,

and how much of this is the fault of either NVIDIA or the power supply manufacturers or both? I'd say it's probably a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B, but if you have a connector that's intended for end user use, like you have to make sure it's idiot proof. that's intended for end user use. Like you have to make sure it's idiot proof. It has flexible cables. We have been trained with good reason to believe that you can kind of crank power supply cables quite a bit with no issue

for an extremely long period of time. I don't really see this being user error unless these things came out of the box with absolutely extreme warnings, which as far as my understanding goes, they came with none. And also, like there was a note previously saying that the MSI MEG AI 1300P power supplies cable was not bent very much and the connection was tight. People are still having these meltdowns when they use those brackets that bring the cable straight out for a little while and everything like it's it's not enough i i don't i don't consider this being out of user error all right let's do some merch messages uh let's make let's make five minutes

from now the cutoff if you guys want to pick up a color block hoodie or order something else get some cable ties send in a merch message. Bell's going to be curating them and he's going to start hitting us with some of these merch messages. Hello. We got a lot of potential ones if you want to take a look as well, Linus. Yeah, I could do that.

But first question for you. For Luke, have you ever thought about open sourcing parts or all of Floatplane? We've contributed to open source projects and that is probably what we will continue to do. I don't think just doing that makes a ton of sense. It's something that we have considered in the past. We decided it probably wouldn't be good for us at that time. I don't necessarily see that changing. I think the main thing that we plan on doing moving forward is just to continue to contribute as much as we can to the open source projects that we do use. And that's, that's probably about it. Next question here is from

a digi dude. Linus, are there any videos that you may regret making maybe because you didn't have enough knowledge on the subject? Oh, I mean, every video. I mean, there's no video from 10 years ago that I don't know more about now and that I don't wish I had done a better job of. I'm always learning, you know, sometimes from the new team members, sometimes from industry contact, sometimes from you guys.

You know, sometimes you'll see something in a video, like I've got a knife in my lap, and I'm like, ah, like cutting or whatever, and you guys get real upset about that. In that case, I would like to point out that, guys, I was not in any real danger. You can't tell because it's a two-dimensional image but what was actually going on was it was it was like a solid 12 inches in

front of my leg and i was cutting in an arc motion so i was applying pressure away from my leg. There was actually no chance whatsoever of me cutting myself, but I recognized that I was not demonstrating good knife safety. And so for that reason, I think I pinned a comment that was critical of it or something like that. But don't worry, I was not going to like cut open a major artery in my leg or anything like that. I got you guys.

I'm going to be around for a lot longer uh the chats want you to know that your fly is open thank you i think that is what they wanted next Next question here from Angus. What EV or hybrid would you buy if you had a budget of around $100,000 Canadian? Okay, to be clear, that was not nearly as bad as Ludwig, okay? Sorry, what was the merch message? If you had $100, dollars canadian what ev or hybrid would you buy uh oh that's a good question um a hundred thousand it's kind of like an awkward price point because it's like way more than a lot of the kind of sensible evs you know like uh like a mock e seems pretty sensible you know model three model y are

kind of like sensible um but it's a lot less than like the really cool evs like you know the porsche tycan or anything like that luke why don't you why don't you do this one i have no idea i haven't been shopping for cars thanks super useful yeah sorry i don't know i don't know hyundai has some really cool stuff yeah i tried to recommend a vehicle to someone fairly recently i think i even told minus about this um and when they went to go try to buy it the dealer wanted two times the sticker price oh yeah that was like it's 150 lightning right yeah it's hard to recommend anything to anybody right now because like i i can't like research something online and then know how much it's going to cost them in a price performance sense because dealers are just raking everybody um so i don't know um yeah i don't know that uh that bmw suv looks pretty cool other than

that it doesn't have a round steering wheel thank you very much elon for nothing the whole not round steering wheel trend needs to die so fast um yeah hyundai Kona Electric is pretty cool. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you guys. People are talking about like Polestar 2. I've heard the software is kind of buggy. No, it's super nice. I test drove one a week or so ago, and it's so nice.

Okay. I don't know. Maybe this is one of those things where just like the loudest users or like the unhappiest users are the loudest ones or something like that. My best suggestion is to watch Short Circuit. We do EVs all the time, like the Bolt EUV. Another good car. All right, that's fair enough. This guy promoting other channels.

Okay, this is a totally competing tech channel here, Bell. Yeah. Next question here from... AJ's suggesting a Fisker Ocean. I just looked up on their website, and that's a $70,000 car. Okay. Oh, no. Fisker Ocean Ultra. Oh no.

Can you even buy this thing though? Okay. How do you buy it? I have no idea. That's the problem right now. Yeah. You can't buy like anything. It's like, yeah, you could buy a Rivian.

If you can't buy it, what's the price? So like, it's so, I don't know, it's hard. Yeah. Chats like Omega, lol, Fis fisker don't buy this yeah i don't know maybe it'll be really good maybe it won't if if things don't exist they're they're vaporware right the only the only time i've ever even heard of fisker is in a donald glover song and he says vroom vroom and then says wait fiskers don't make noise when they start up or something okay okay the id buzz looks pretty sick though where's that what is that volkswagen it's the volkswagen, but electric and like kind of sick. That seems very smart of them.

Yep. It actually looks pretty cool. Not coming until 2024, though. So again, that doesn't answer your question. You can't get it. Yeah. You know what? Once it comes out, there's not going to be enough availability. This is what you should do.

You got 100 hundred grand today, put down deposits on every electric car. And then as they arrive, complete your transaction and scalp them. Because as far as I can tell, that's what everyone's doing. There. Yep.

That's, that's, that's my advice for the day. Oh, why is there an NFT collection of the Volkswagen van? Because you touch yourself at night. All right, what else you got? Next question here is from Digital Logic TV. Question about your PG42UQ.

When you turn it on, do you get a burn-in looking line down the center for about 10 minutes that eventually fades away? Curious if it's just my panel and I should be looking for a replacement. That's pretty normal on OLED displays. At least it's not burn-in burn-in.

It's more of image retention than burn-in. So it's not a huge problem. Next question here from Scott. Oh, wait, hold on. I should clarify. That's only normal though, if you often use it with like window snapping and there's a line there.

If it's just happening and you didn't have anything with a line ever, then no, it's not normal. And you should contact ASUS. As Scott was hoping to say, you've spoken in the past about the Vancouver housing market and how it's an added challenge in finding talent, but could you share any advantages the Vancouver area has that has helped make

LMG great? Yeah. Living here rocks. There's a reason everybody wants to be in Vancouver. That's it. Other than that, the Canadian dollar sucks housing market sucks commodity prices both have workplaces in downtown vancouver that their only reason for existing is to as fast as possible rapidly funnel development talent away from Canada into Seattle.

So that's pretty cool. If you're trying to hire Canadian developers, that's pretty sweet. Pretty helpful. Thanks, Amazon. No problems with that at all. Thanks, Microsoft. Love that brain drain. Next question here is from Adam.

Hi, Linus. My wife and I game in a small room that gets hot quick would you suggest we do water cooling with insulated pecs to a radiator in the basement or put computers in the basement and do fiber hdmi or and usb both are valid solutions i would say the one that is the lesser amount of maintenance in the long term. And the one that I've settled on is moving the computer away and then running long cables, running an umbilical cord to the PC. I actually pitched this to the Creator Warehouse team earlier this week,

but I think that it would be super cool once we're doing our own cables to do bundles, like umbilical cord bundles of not super expensive like fiber optic cables but just long validated copper cables at various lengths like a 10 foot umbilical cord for running you know to the next room over like a 15 footer for going down one floor and just having that as like a one piece thing that people can buy um um, to move their computer into another room.

Because honestly, it's, it's like a significant quality of life improvement to have the noise and the heat away from you somewhere else in the house. Another question here from Derek, would you let your kids work at LTT if they asked at 15, 18 or 20? And if so, would you start them at the bottom or something more prestigious? What do you think I should do? They've never asked.

That was the good question. I think starting them in a prestigious position would be super douchey. Oh, well, that's not happening. Yeah, no, no, no. I meant, like, do I even want my kids to be, like, influencers? Like, I don't know.

Like, I think... There's work at the various companies that's not being an influencer. No, I mean, that's true. But, like, okay, so here's a here's a question right like what would they do like i i wouldn't they wouldn't have any experience we don't hire interns like we don't we don't do any of that stuff so that's the biggest problem don't really have a ton of junior positions yeah we generally like to have people who are like really good here hit the ground running yeah yeah um like something i could see is if they wanted to try their hand at you know starting a channel

or something you could kind of shovel them off into a corner somewhere and say okay good luck um you know i'll talk about it a couple of times but other than that don't expect daddy to just like make your career for you um because like realistically none of my kids are particularly into tech anyway so it's not like they would be at home just in tech i mean something like channel super fun they're already having a blast with and they are pretty funny in but like little man seems to definitely know his way around things oh he's a troll i don't know where he gets it from no but there was stuff like like remember when he was setting up that minecraft thing

oh that's true like he he knows what he's doing he's very familiar with stuff but but i don't think he it's it's i think it's more of a means to an end type of situation yes i don't think he's passionate about technology yeah yeah uh oh yeah we should we should uh cut them here like for incoming ones but But yeah, we should do some more. Next question here from Anon. With the M1 and M2 Macs showing the benefits of ARM on a laptop, do you think it's time for Intel or AMD to begin investing in either ARM or RISC-V?

Is this the date? Yeah, AMD has already started on their server chips. You can, I promise you, both of them are looking at both of those technologies very, very intently. Next question here is from Tyler. Video games are the best, but board games are awesome.

Close second. Do you and the family have any board game nights? And if so, what kind of games? Yeah, we do. My kids like the Quacks of Quedlinburg. Everyone in the family likes Catan. That's a little old for me at this point, but the kids really like it. Um, my son's pretty into any kind of like strategy game. Uh, there's this one that he and my wife play with a bunch of black and white, uh, like stones. They're not checkers. They're like stones and you can

like jump as many of them as you want in a row or something like that. I forget what it's called, but they like it. Blockus is another really good one. Really good game. I used to play Azul with Oh, Azul's great. Tyler. I picked that up recently so I can play it again with the late and great Tyler.

And I picked that up recently so I can play it again in the future. Next question here from Anon. Any more Homelab content coming? Would love to see more. I don't know if it's specifically Homelab content, but Anthony has a video upcoming on PyKVM, which is super cool

and an essential piece of any home lab that you want to be able to work on from far away. If you have a mixture of like proper enterprise hardware that has built in like IKVM and, you know, like random consumer grade stuff that's kind of mixed in with it, PyKVM is super cool. Oh, I should explain what it is. It basically uses a Raspi to allow remote access to anything like full keyboard mouse as if you were sitting in front of it control, you know, update biases and install operating systems and all that kind of stuff without it as a as a built in feature. So it's going to be a video that's worth checking out next question here is from bien how was quality how was video quality control back when you first started and how did you decide when a video was good enough

at what point or milestone did you decide it was time to up the production value quality control you say i don't think we had any QC until years after we moved into this office. They just went up. And then the number of times that we would have problems with videos that were catastrophic. Um, oh, I lost so much sleep. Um, how do we decide that a video is good enough? It's, I mean, it's good enough when you do your best and the best that you can do for today's video. And then you move on and you try and do better tomorrow i mean that's always been kind of the philosophy shipped is better than perfect and and you know obviously we don't want to get things wrong but you're talking about production values here i think and so from my point of view uh camp

is fine as long as it doesn't seem like you tried to make the slickest possible production. There's nothing wrong with just having some fun with it and uploading something that's kind of obviously bad. There are situations where it's bit us in the butt. For example, the broken iMac debacle. the iMac the broken iMac debacle we were accused of faking Anthony shorting out the board in it when our intention was that it was supposed to be campy obviously fake but some people thought it was like good like we got too good for our own good some people believed that it was real or

that we thought people would believe it was real but we were actually just campily reenacting it so uh there's a there's a balancing act i think between um spending time on on upping production values and just focusing on getting the message across um i'm more of a message across guy, but a lot of the production folks, you know, really want to polish up the videos more. So there's always that push and pull. I'll also say there was a second part of that question I was asking about, like,

how do you decide to start doing improvements? Improvements have absolutely been constant the whole way through. And I've been dragged kicking and screaming pretty much every step of the way when it comes to production value improvements. Sometimes you don't kick and scream quite so hard, though. Yeah, these days I'm pretty chill about it, but back when we didn't have any money and people would tell

me, oh, we need to spend $1,000 on a microphone. So are you f***ing kidding me? $1,000 on a microphone? What does it come with a car? You know? Question here from Brendan. Do you think AMD's driver issues are over? I suspect with the new chiplet design,

it might be a challenge since it's new, and maybe that's why they didn't show as many benchmarks. Over's a big word. I mean, I don't think anybody on earth's driver issues are over but user feedback that i've seen has been that it's much improved and so i hope that we will see that continue with the 7000 series but maybe that'll be a perfect time for luke and i to do an amd challenge and see how we feel about that in the real world yeah question here from grant my father has his own podcast that i've never listened to despite all my family does and insists i do does your family watch your podcast and videos

nope my family has no idea what i do other than my mother-in-law she like actually follows and pays attention and will ask me about stuff i talked about on wanshow and stuff which i think is hilarious uh my oh i should say not the content but my aunt and uncle also follow very closely on the business side my uncle was an entrepreneur and he was one of, I think, probably the only influence in my life before I started working at NCIX who pushed me to get into business and entrepreneurial pursuits. Everyone else was basically like, stay in school, get a government job, get a pension, keep your head down, don't So keep your head down. Don't rock the boat.

Just take the safe, steady path. This has definitely been higher risk, but it's also gone pretty well so far. So I'm very grateful to him for bringing that up to me because it wasn't something that was really talked about in school. All school talks about is more school, and that's not necessarily the right answer every time yeah my my mom and dad watch um and my girlfriend watches when she shows when showed to my birds because my birds won't stop screaming because i'm not there oh

yvonne watches lmg clips i think that's the main channel she watches. Oh, okay. Mostly to see if I mention her, I think. Shout out LMG Clips. Go subscribe. Question here. Yeah, the other channel that Bell manages. You stop pimping your channels here.

Hey, we got great channels. You should go subscribe to all of them, starting with Short Circuit and OMG Clips. Okay. Question here from Kashagra. Thoughts on sticking to $500 and below Roku TV of the sort or going big on a $2,000 plus TV in hopes for at least some, the F word, future-proofing?

The changes in TV seem quite overwhelming. the F word, future-proofing, the changes in TV seem quite overwhelming. There's been a period of extremely strong innovation in TVs. So I think that we're going to see a bit of a slowdown period. I think we're going to have a bit of a hangover from what we've seen in the last five years. However, one of the things that's happening right now as a result of that surge of innovation and competition

is prices are getting so aggressive. Some of the LG OLED deals that we've seen in the lead up to Black Friday have been wild. So while I would love to say that now is the time to buy a top tier TV and just be happy with it for the next five to ten years and you could i think you could do that today uh if i picked up like a quantum dot oled or one of lg's current gen oleds and treated it well right you got to be cognizant of burnin particularly on the lg models um we well i should say we might and it's theoretically

the qd oled ones are not as susceptible but anything's an we might and it's theoretically the qdo led ones are not as susceptible but anything's an unknown quantity until it's actually been out in the real world for an extended period of time i'd like to say that now's a great time to pull the trigger but i don't know what's around the corner right um i don't think we're going to see another big paradigm shift in the next few years though it seems like we're gonna see mostly generational improvements for a bit here like I don't think micro LED is around the corner at all next question here from Brian any time frame for if or when there'll be a rain cover from the backpack got a flood warning yesterday

where I live in the UK and I'm thinking by the time my backpack arrives, we're going to have all the rain we're going to get for the winter, but that's wishful thinking. We do have our first sample of it. There are some fit issues and some areas where we can improve the waterproofness of it.

So, I mean, it's probably going to be anywhere from three to six weeks for another sample. Then we'll have to actually send the PO, then production, then shipping. I mean, I think we're going to miss this rain season. I'm sorry. But next year? Yeah. Sorry.

Things take time. I wish it wasn't that way. I wish every sample could be perfect on the first try. Like, color block hoodie, man. This took, like, over a year. that way. I wish every sample could be perfect on the first try. Like color block hoodie, man. This took like over a year. Actually, this took way over a year. This is probably almost a two-year project.

Ridiculous! Worth it, though. Question here from Sam. Please, please tell us your thoughts on the Sims series. My girlfriend has wanted to know for many moons did you ever play sims luke i actually did um my dad and i played it must have been sims 1 when i was like really little and but i remember we like, there's no way we played it properly because all we cared about was like min-maxing

the like career progression of our sim and just like hoarding money. And then we bought the like really big mansion at the top. And when we got it, we were like, well, we beat the game, right? and when we got it we were like well we beat the game right i mean there's no right or wrong way to play sims right so luke try hard sims okay oh my goodness i heard there's a new one coming out though and that's cool because the sims community like i feel so bad for them they get aimed so infrequently the content that they get is yeah

like all these expansions they're like oh you get four shoes a shirt and a pair of pants and it's gonna cost you 30 bucks like it's they get screwed so much it's's like the EA Sports model, but even worse. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, if they're getting something new, because Sims 4, I feel like it's been out for so long. Like, hopefully they actually get something new. I don't know. That's all I'll say.

But, yeah. Next question here from Joshua. I work third shift, and I'm usually asleep while you're're streaming so i'm happy to finally send a merch message am i able to use an arc gpu for plex hardware encoding if so which one should i buy it would have to be explicitly supported by plex uh to my knowledge plex doesn't have support for av1 yet uh but you guys will have to correct me if i'm wrong so stay tuned if you want to use an ArcGPU for AV1 encoding though, it doesn't matter which one. So you could go with the A380

and it has, to my knowledge, the exact same encoding hardware that the A770 or the A750 do. We've had a lot of people ask if you have any thoughts on the iNEO 2 or the gpd win 4 have you had any experiences with them yet uh i think i'm supposed to get hands-on with an ineo 2 soon looks super exciting i mean we're talking steam deck like performance in what looks like a bit more of a digestible form factor and i don't know what kind of display is coming on the ineo 2 i actually

haven't looked into it enough but it's one of those things where i've kind of been lazy about it because i know they're going to send me one so i'll get a chance to experience it for myself uh hall effect oh yeah the hall effect joysticks and triggers that's super sick although it is something that you can upgrade your steam deck with so it's not like it's a huge, like unovercomeable advantage over the Steam Deck. The pricing's more, but it's got a big, big fat battery. Ooh, 1200p display. Oh, INEO 2 is looking pretty sick. Is it OLED though? I don't know. It know doesn't say which means probably not i'll have to i'll have to check into it my only real complaint about the ionio i have now aside from that i'd love to have more performance and this one will with rdna2 graphics is that i wish that the brightness got lower i

wish their display controller could allow it to get dimmer when i'm playing at night that's my that's my only real complaint about the Ionio Next, which is the one that I'm daily driving right now. Next question here is from John. What are your thoughts on the direct storage API with a massive increase in power of GPUs? Do you think that it'll give a boost to the used GPU market? A boost to the used GPU market. A boost to the used GPU market. I think you might be misunderstanding a little bit what direct storage is for.

Direct storage is for allowing your GPU access to your storage. It's not like a GPU accelerated RAID or anything like that. So I don't think people are going to be using more GPUs. They're just going to get more benefit from faster storage in their system, kind of like the Xbox Series and the PlayStation 5.

Question from Scott, but as well as a few different people. Can we get an update on the Black Shaft screwdriver? Yes, we're hoping to start shipping in the next week or two, but it's going to take some time because there is a backlog. We did say those were going to be delayed. So we did. And they were. So it worked.

Next question from Gabriel is another screwdriver question. Are there any plans for a screwdriver case or one for additional bitpacks that we may purchase uh we'd love to but in the meantime i saw it on the subreddit a while back someone designed a 3d printable one so you should you should do that another merge question here from ben Have the zipper pulls been decided on for the backpack? And if so, how do we go about getting those? No. I actually have three different pulls on my bag right now that I'm using as part of this process of making sure that we don't f*** this up again.

Yeah. From Charles, as somebody who's had to pay $70 for printer ink this week, has LDT ever considered covering printers? We want to, actually. I think our plan is to do like, hey, I have this much money to spend. Is there any printer that doesn't totally suck video? But nobody wants to do it.

I think it's assigned to Tanner right now because he volunteered to do that awful dash cam video. To be clear, good video, awful experience evaluating horrible, bad, awful products. So he's going to get to it when he gets to it, pretty much. From Anon, Hi Linus, what's the most expensive yet useless or preventable mistake you've made while building ltd i don't know luke maybe this is a good one for you you look totally zoned though

sorry man it's 3 30 in the morning can you rethink the question i would love to. Anon asked what the most expensive yet useless, maybe preventable mistake was when building LTT? Right, cameras? Okay. Okay, counterpoint. Counterpoint.

Was it a mistake with all the content we got out of them and all the additional exposure we got out of other creators talking about it? So that's entirely what complicates every single potential answer to this. Because as a company, every potential waste of money is just a potential increase of money. Because if we make some massive mistake, if the server room goes on fire, if we drop something really expensive,

if we do whatever, it's all content. It's all content. It's actually very hard to answer. The reds are particularly hard to evaluate. So obviously, we didn't recoup our cost from just that one so expensive video not even not even close but that video and corridor digital's response to it was the reason we ever engaged with corridor who we've collaborated with multiple times since then which has been good for our cross pollinating our audiences and exposure. Okay, we upgraded our workstations and made videos about that in order

to in order to handle this 8k video, we upgraded our storage server and made videos about that in order to handle 8k video we made a video about red's accelerator card which we wouldn't have been able to evaluate properly without all this library of 8k video um we upgraded our other archival storage servers which was also content in order to accommodate this growing library of 8k video so it's like really really hard to evaluate and there have been shoots that we've done where we would have wanted to rent greater than prosumer grade cameras like cameras at that tier and we didn't have to pay rentals because we just owned them so the fact that we daily drove them for so many hundreds and hundreds

and hundreds of hours, I mean, at this point, I consider them like paid off assets. We still have two of them. Uh, we still have our, our, um, DSMC2 and we still have a weapon 8K or something like that. And we're probably not going to get rid of them because, uh, they're just, they, they, they are really useful. And like I said, I consider them a, a,

a paid off and accounted for asset from my point of view. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. Cause we're, we've, we've become very, very good.

Uh, not necessarily even become, we have pretty much always been very very good at turning everything into content right i think we're worse at it hurdles that we had to jump sorry i think we're worse at it now like we almost didn't make a video about that rf chamber fiasco and that was one of the best performing ones we uploaded in the last month and i know you absolutely should have done yeah like i didn't i didn't even know what was going on that was that was a video that was decided on on thursday afternoon because we needed something to shoot that week and i was like

what do you mean you don't think this is a video we can talk about the principles of like rf chambers and testing we can talk about what's coming down the pipe for the lab we can talk about the whole fiasco with the billing us 45 grand and then completely ghosting us we can go build a fort and sit in it like that is like if anything we have too much content and so sometimes i think our mentality is a little bit wrong lately like if it's not like an in-depth review of a product or um you know like a long detailed vlog about something it's like not a video anymore i'm like no people want to know what's going on over here and there's so many learning outcomes from that one like that one was obvious to me but sometimes i just don't

even know what's going on anymore and i think that's a big challenge yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah i don't know complicated question It's hard to measure these things. A question from Brendan. Something else that's hard to measure. When it comes to Intel's E or P core design and AMD using normal cores for all cores, what would you recommend to someone who likes to watch YouTube and have other apps open while gaming, et cetera?

Both are good. Both. Why not both? Why not both? Why not both? Next question here is from Miloš. Linus, regarding the house build, I'm going through a build project at the moment in Australia

and I'm finding the professional standards of most trades is surprisingly low and incredibly overpriced. What has your experience been in organizing the trades for your house? Terrible. overpriced what has your experience been in organizing the trades for your house terrible i actually um definitely have some stuff to talk about at some point but right now i need the project done is the pool done no not even close not even close dude not even close our backyard

is a swamp right now like it's disgusting yvonne has to literally go out every morning to tell the people on site what they're working on. Assuming they're there. They don't tell us if they're coming or not coming. She has to tell them what they're working on because they don't get any communication from head office. I got some stories, but I'm not going to talk about it right now. That's it. That's it. thank you so much all of you for tuning into the land show we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel

oh yeah he's got this he's he's fine he's fine oh wait i'm not supposed to roll the intro Oh yeah, he's got this. He's fine. He's fine. Oh wait, I'm not supposed to roll the intro. Bell, you My WAN outro button is not doing anything. You good? Oh, the WAN outro button's not doing anything. That's okay. We

acknowledged all of I think we acknowledged all of the merch messages already anyway. So I think we're good. So I'll just do it. Sorry, Luke. I know we're not of the merch messages already anyway. So I think we're good. So I'll just do it. Sorry, Luke. I know we're not supposed to do that. Look at the face he's making.

So disappointed. Sorry, Luke. Did you start the server? I don't know. I'm going to say yes so I don't get in trouble. Just kidding. I'm just here so I don't get fined. Wow! Okay, how do I get the mouse over here? Oh, there it is.

Hi, buddy.