The WAN Show - I'm Siding With Apple - WAN Show May 10, 2024

Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up everyone and welcome to the WAN show. We've got a great show lined up for you guys today. I hope Apple launched their M4 processor bringing ray tracing to the iPad and Microsoft has caught heat from sudden game studio closures including the maker of surprise hit Hi-Fi Rush. At risk of spoiling a little bit of this topic the worst part of it is was it just after the studio closure or just before the studio closure that microsoft basically came out and said we need more games like those games they just made i don't remember which one it was but it was very closely tied we'll get into it what else we got today yeah uh you know sony i'm gonna pull this one out sony just

Starting point is 00:00:46 keeps digging we thought we thought they were out of it you know they added psn to hell divers and then they're like okay we'll take it away and it's not back but the reason why everyone was actually mad is back dude sony is the classicist example of a company that never learns yeah they never ever learn yeah and we'll talk about that also uh there's there's new handheld news rog ally x nintendo switch 2 stuff's coming you picked that what else is there all right the show is brought to you today by ag1 ridge and backblaze why don't we jump right into our headline topic which is of course the ad that apple released for the new ipad uh let's let's get through what the new ipad is apple officially launched their new m4 chip surprising i mean anyone who doesn't pay attention to leaks uh there was some speculation earlier this week that twitter's ai news summary feature may have access to scheduled tweets because of how accurate

Starting point is 00:02:15 its summary of the upcoming apple event was i don't think that that's been confirmed i don't think that that's necessarily gone anywhere i haven't followed it up so maybe it did but i saw that i thought it was pretty funny anyway the new m4 chip is broadly similar to the m3 but has an additional two efficiency cores and a 20 increase in memory bandwidth um apple is also claiming a more powerful neural engine and that's where some of the speculation about why we're getting an m4 chip before they've even seemingly finished rolling out the m3 family i mean anyone else notice that the mac studio still has an m2 series chip in it i mean our mac users and by mac users, I don't mean Apple users. I mean, specifically Mac, not Mac book. Are Mac users feeling like just Apple just straight up doesn't care about you at all.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Every single time, every single time they come back and they're like, no, no, we hear you. Uh, you matter to us. Here's a new Mac pro with upgradable memory and upgradable gpu by the way we're never gonna rev this again and bye-bye oh wait no we haven't forgot about you here's a mac pro that uses apple silicon by the way none of the upgrades and stuff are there and it's like way more expensive for reasons we can't fully explain uh uh also we're just not gonna we're just not gonna revise it you're gonna be on m2 silicon forever and then our other products literally the ipad is gonna get m4 before you guys get m3 it's it's it's kind of it's kind of mind-blowing at this point anyway the more powerful neural engine is fueling speculation

Starting point is 00:04:05 that apple has accelerated their plans for m4 with all this ai in the news and to make sure that their stock price doesn't go down because they don't have enough ai honestly i kind of doubt it realistically apple is at a level where people do not invest in apple for ai people invest in apple because they have a very very beautiful wonderful balance sheet on a quarterly basis um anywho uh benchmarks from geekbench show the m4 easily beating and tells core i9-14900ks in terms of single core performance of course we've talked about this a fair bit in the past geekbench is not the be-all and end-all of performance it's just convenient to run because it happens to be cross-platform and the chip is launching in the first ipad to feature ray tracing

Starting point is 00:04:57 and hardware accelerated mesh shading man if only they would let you run mac os on it it would be like kind of the best mac os machine with a little folio apple also announced the new m2 powered ipad air which is actually slightly thicker than the ipad pro the ipad pro is crazy thin and that's where some of the marketing it's weird name hubbub has come from it is you're going to call it air and have it be the thicker version that is weird i mean look it's cool that the pro is so thin i'm just saying look luke this is the company what brung you mac pro mac pro mac pro all of which are completely different products with completely different characteristics they don't the the trash can one doesn't even look the same as the other ones this is also the company

Starting point is 00:05:52 what brung you uh oh i'm trying to think oh shoot no i was going somewhere with this but oh yeah yeah ultra max max pro ultra i don't even i don't even remember literally their most important product line has gotten bloated to the point where it's kind of a mess the iphone used to be simple it used to be here's the new iphone oh by the way you can still buy the old iphone and it's cheaper yeah then we got i'm trying to think of the exact order that things happen then we got the se first oh no yeah yeah and the se kind of made sense it was clearly separated from the rest of the product line it didn't have the same premium feel you know unapologetically plastic uh but but kind of made sense and then

Starting point is 00:06:43 things just got completely off the rails because now we've got we've got pros we've got pro maxes we've got x is where it really went off the off the rails for me sorry x iphone x iphone 10 oh so the iphone 10 right it's just like that was where they they really lost me um yeah i'm excited while we're talking about naming stuff, I'm going to allude to something I want to talk about later. I don't want to talk about it now, though. But yeah, like what the heck are they going to call the new Switch? Oh, well. Because a lot of news articles are saying Switch 2,

Starting point is 00:07:15 but all they said is the successor to the Switch. There's no way Nintendo calls it Switch 2. Well, we'll get into that later. All right, fine. Make a note in the Luke section then. Okay then okay uh they also launched the pencil pro which is only compatible with the 2024 ipad pro and ipad air and another notable detail is that upgrading the m4 ipad pro to the one terabyte model will also get you a more powerful 10 core processor versus the nine core standard one which is a very macbook like i thought-like. I thought it was the 512 as well.

Starting point is 00:07:47 So don't quote me on that, but definitely you can get a more powerful processor by upgrading the storage. I guess, is this Apple sort of tacitly acknowledging that people, that maybe they shouldn't be charging so much for just storage upgrades, so they're going to nerf the processor in their lower tier model so that you feel like you're getting more value. I'm actually not sure. Anyway, there was an ad for the new iPad Pro,

Starting point is 00:08:14 and I have what I suspect is going to be a pretty unpopular take on it. I wonder if it'll be unpopular with people here. Here is the commercial. We're going to watch it. Which is still up up by the way in spite of the fact actually no let's not watch the whole thing because i don't feel like getting you know dmca'd by apple but the point is basically there's a whole bunch of stuff uh you know you got a piano you got a metronome you got a whole bunch of what looks like dj equipment a filming slate

Starting point is 00:08:42 whole bunch of stuff there's some some lenses and some art supplies. They crush it under a gigantic, what appears to be a hydraulic press, but I don't know, might be a prop, who knows. And then they lift it back up to reveal the new iPad Pro. Look at it go. Oh, my goodness. Okay, legitimately, it looks incredible. That is very very which is

Starting point is 00:09:05 which is pretty darn cool so this has caused a pretty big stir i'm gonna i'm gonna read the notes and then i'm gonna kind of give you my take sure um the commercial features of blah blah blah blah okay apple uh i don't know we'll get to that The ad was particularly unpopular in Japan, with some people calling it disgusting and evil. A few Japanese commentators connected this revulsion to the traditional Shinto belief that tools and household belongings can come to possess their own kind of soul with the passing of time and therefore deserve to be treated with a level of dignity and respect. Hugh Grant came out saying,

Starting point is 00:09:44 hold on, let me see if i can find uh quote apple ipad uh pro hold on let me see if i can find it um he called it the destruction of the human experience courtesy of silicon valley um so this way till he finds out about ai apple seems okay this is from my notes to have intended this as a metaphor for how all of the functions of these items are included with the ipad however others particularly artists saw it as a dystopian visual metaphor of an impersonal personal industrial machine destroying symbols of human creativity all right so here comes the hot take i'm with apple on this one also i think apple is still with apple on this one they apologized for it and left the ad up and left the ad up because i think the cold hard truth is that apple recognizes that this is a storm in a teacup and that people generally speaking understood what they were saying

Starting point is 00:10:56 and here's the thing i get that art is in the eye of the beholder, and the meaning of art can be in the eye of the interpreter, right? And in many cases, there are many examples of art where the writer, be it of a song or the painter, be it of a painting, goes out of their way to never completely explain what it meant and and that's that's part of the fun of it right where they're basically like no i want i want you to form your own opinion i want you to find your own meaning in this obviously it had some kind of meaning to me or maybe it didn't who knows obviously it had some kind of meaning to me, or maybe it didn't, who knows. Obviously, it had some kind of meaning to me, but I want to know what it means to you. So people, if you guys can, examples are escaping me. So floatplane chat, if you want to hit me with a couple of famous examples of that,

Starting point is 00:11:56 that would be great, just so that everyone can kind of enjoy that. But that's not what this is. Apple has come out and said what they meant by it so for us to go well it meant this other thing i think is what did they say specifically this is something you already said did i miss it actually you know what no i don't think that i don't think they did say it i think probably they thought it was obvious sorry i was going based on our notes they seem to have intended this as a metaphor for how all the functions of these items are included within the ipad and to me that is that is pretty obvious um tarantino in that stupid briefcase says lucid lucy okay yes okay so there that's that's a good example um but yeah i would i would have thought that would be pretty obvious and to me to to take

Starting point is 00:12:48 what you were watching and say oh well we don't care about the the the human artistry of anything anymore is sort of silly because apple's not saying they didn't put humans in a hydraulic press they put tools in a hydraulic press and all they were saying was here's another tool here's a tool that does so many of the things this this thing does and i think that i think it's manufactured outrage basically there's a take from someone at philip lane chat from a lot earlier in the show, Gurren MKD, that says, Linus, I heard your point on the iPad ad. I think you missed the point of why people are upset.

Starting point is 00:13:33 It's tone deaf because the iPad doesn't replace needing a piano or, and hold on, let me get to the end. It's tone deaf because the iPad doesn't replace needing a piano or paint or TV or the other things. The iPad isn't able to do the tactile feel and artistic expression from having objects. The iPad is a tool that can support those tasks. Your take that people are upset because the iPad doesn't replace the artist is not the reason why people are upset. Red Bull doesn't give you wings.

Starting point is 00:14:02 I don't know. One thing that's interesting to me is do we know because i've seen some people say so but i haven't seen any official statements for it do we know if it was cgi or real um i'm not sure because it doesn't look real to me at least some parts of it like the uh when it squishes the face of the thing the little toy thing yeah there were things that looked wrong to me um but i don't know yeah i'm not sure so i don't want to uh apparently it's cgi with a lot of video but how do we know that because i've seen people say that but i've only seen random people on like in in threads say that I haven't seen any official thing saying that.

Starting point is 00:14:47 So, okay. Evulsion says Linus, I see your point. However, there's a strong argument that even works with an established intended meaning where it can have meaning beyond that, which is up to the interpretation of the viewer.

Starting point is 00:14:58 And that's fair enough, but getting angry about it isn't really helpful. If someone's intent was not the thing that you see in something then we have to be sort of we have to acknowledge that we have to kind of go oh okay yeah well that that that immediate emotional reaction that i had um was not your intention i think in general and we've we've said this when people really like ads and stuff too is like just have your general like balance and happiness and whatnot a lot less connected to brands like when when wendy's and other various brands were running

Starting point is 00:15:40 wild on twitter there for a while and people were like emotionally invested in like these brands dunking on people. It was like just as cringe. Because it's like, dude, it's just marketing. It's just brands. Just ignore it. This isn't like good for you. You're losing the game. So in general, I think this is much ado about nothing.

Starting point is 00:16:00 I think their intended purpose was very clear. I think that we have far more pressing concerns, especially because the iPad has been such an artist's tool. And yeah, you're right. It doesn't replace a piano in the same way that a synth doesn't replace a piano, right? But it absolutely is an instrument of artistic expression. And to deny that would be... I don't know.

Starting point is 00:16:37 I think if I use words... So is your phone. So is... So is anything. A rock. So is a garbage can lid yeah anything can be a tool for artistic expression and all apple was trying to say was that this tool for artistic expression can combine metaphorically the functions of everything you see here they obviously recognize that a swiss army knife okay is not the world's best knife

Starting point is 00:17:09 it is not the world's best pair of tweezers and it is not the world's best toothpick in fact it is not a toothpick at all because i don't know about you guys but for me the toothpick gets lost immediately okay immediately it's just garbage but that doesn't mean if if if swiss victorinox or whatever the the company that makes swiss army knives if they made a commercial like that where they took you know a shovel and and whatever and they and they compressed it all they compressed it all into this swiss army knife i'd love to see someone dig with this dude dude we wouldn't be having the same conversation no probably not i mean there's there's a million other people are

Starting point is 00:17:49 linking all these in um in in flow plane chat right now there's a ton of other ads that are like effectively the same thing um like people posted this one from lg where's my thing here it is someone's like uh by your logic a firearm could be used as artistic expression have you ever seen a firearm with a skin on it no seriously there's there's i guarantee you someone has tried to draw a picture with a firearm at some point yeah and people used to do uh not used to they still do it like stipple art on on plastic and leathery ones and they used to do wood engraving and look you might not like metal engraving that form of art you might not like what they're expressing what if what they're

Starting point is 00:18:37 expressing is their is their second amendment right to bear arms and shoot guns at things that's human expression you don't get to just say well that's all where's your violin like no literally anything can be a form of human expression yes even a gun trake said painting firearms is huge in the industry now painting firearms has been huge in the industry for well yeah long time do you guys remember the video of the guy playing a christmas song firing a gun no i haven't actually i haven't actually seen that it isn't it isn't my point though it isn't my point we're not saying it's good or bad artistic expression we're we're saying it just it just is and you don't get to you don't

Starting point is 00:19:19 get to gatekeep it um so yeah sorry guys i don't i don't care um i actually fully defend apple in this case okay so in so do you they should leave the ad up do you so you defend them leaving the ad up 100 not apologizing for it they did apologize do you but they left it up i'm with them on it you think it's a good ad if if there was no controversy yeah nobody talked about it yeah because nobody talked about the bunch of other ads that are exactly the same thing yeah yeah i know i think i think it's a good ad i think their previous ad was better which one um someone linked this as well but i remember this and i think we even talked about it on wanshow but this one you remember this ad what is this what's a computer yeah this is not a better ad

Starting point is 00:20:05 no i don't even i don't even know what the f**k i'm looking at right now what do you mean like okay what i can i can draw on it yeah i think the whole point of this ad was that she can do a lot of the things you can do on a computer but she can do it on an ipad that's all it was i guess it just it it takes a really long time to get to the point that's fair that is a that is a that that is a 68 second ad yeah so i guess okay hold on i should clarify then i don't think that i don't think it's bad i think that it is you think the compression one is better it's struggling to hold my attention and so the percentage of that that i would be likely to watch before clicking skip ad is much lower whereas i think that the hydraulic press ad is very much designed for now interesting i don't know what the music playing was i watched it on music but like

Starting point is 00:21:07 basically i'm sure there's some dramatic music but like something exciting is going to happen right and they do a great job of kind of cutting in for for dynamic interesting looking colorful close-ups you you kind of can't look away from it and that that grippingness while without being so explicit that's the other thing like that ipad ad that's something i could have storyboarded well yeah i don't know let's just have a little girl like do a bunch of stuff with it that it does like that's not it's it it says it explicitly whereas the hydraulic press ad says it implicitly which maybe was their mistake because it allows people to kind of insert their own narrative here about you're destroying ai yeah ai destroying art and not having respect for for you know classical

Starting point is 00:21:58 instruments of of creation right but no i i wanted to compare the views on them because i know this ipad ad actually got you know 2.3 million views yeah um but i can't find what's a computer actually posted by apple that's because apple pulls down their old marketing collateral instead of just leaving it up uh in fact they they sent if i they sent some kind of legal notice to someone who archived all of their old advertising collateral and were basically like, you need to take this down, you need to delete it all.

Starting point is 00:22:31 And it's like, sorry, what? That's lame, because they've got some cool ads. Advertising, you guys? You literally pay money to have people watch this and then you're like, no, no, no, don't keep watching it. Oh, that's the old one so to be clear there's still plenty of things that i think apple is so far up their own asses about that they will never see the light of day ever again oh yeah this commercial just isn't one of them why don't we jump into our next topic here you want to pick it

Starting point is 00:23:01 people are also pointing out this is an interesting one, Trig in Flowplane chat is pointing out that the original iPhone 1 commercials do try to make effectively the same point that they're like, not really because it's not musical instruments, but they're trying to show that the iPhone is replacing lots of different objects. And if you remember,

Starting point is 00:23:22 a lot of the marketing around smartphones when they originally came out was like, you don't have to have all these things anymore you just have a phone this is like none of these are new marketing points yeah i think this is one of those things where it just happened to land at a moment of high sensitivity around this subject um and i think i think that's actually part of why people were so upset about the recent um gamer food video as well so it was right on the heels of one or two high profile channels basically leaving youtube or paywalling most of their content on their own sites our gamer food video okay yeah so so we were trying we've been trying to figure out like what

Starting point is 00:24:05 happened there and there were definitely some issues in the way that it was messaged yeah in the way that it was cut i did end up watching it and i do agree yeah there were issues but how mad people were like how incredibly angry they were um didn't seem to really match um the the the sin that we had committed, and we were kind of trying to figure out why it was. And it does seem like that was a significant contribution to how upset people were, because the wounds were a little raw.

Starting point is 00:24:35 And I think that's probably what we're seeing right here. We're seeing open wounds in the artistic community around computers replacing human art, but that isn't what apple was trying to say at all obviously yeah the ipad has never even a little bit has never been and it could be with you know third-party software you could do generative AI art stuff on it. But that's never been Apple's message. Apple has always positioned their professional tools as for creators of art. And the fact that they had it taking the place of tools for creators of art means that that was the message.

Starting point is 00:25:23 These tools, now this tool tool and it's so thin those other things couldn't possibly hope to fit in this hydraulic press yeah but this sure does people in chat like monty hawk is saying and copyright is going to be continued to be bypassed by ai with vague and hidden bs with more scraping of data and theft totally the ad had literally zero percent to do with that that's that's the this is the thing that we're kind of talking about is like we think and i agree with linus it makes sense we think there's a lot of rage coming from that area attacking this thing but this thing was saying nothing about ai it isn't what apple is trying to say obviously but it is not tone deaf

Starting point is 00:26:00 to say when that open wound of ai replacing artists is ongoing but that's the thing right like if we know what they're trying to say and we know that what they're trying to say when that open wound of AI replacing artists is ongoing, but that's the thing, right? Like, if we know what they're trying to say, and we know that what they're trying to say is not the thing that we're upset about, then what's tone deaf about it? Like, is our response to them tone deaf? Is intentionally, if I know what you're trying to say, and I know that it's not the thing that's upsetting to me,

Starting point is 00:26:23 I'm the one being irrational. Yeah. If I go, well, I'm going to be mad anyway. Yeah. Not them. That's not on them. Intentionally misunderstanding someone. That's f***ed up.

Starting point is 00:26:35 Don't do that. Yeah. Why would you do that? Even for no other reason than it's just a waste of time and energy for yourself. Yeah. Just chill. Why be mad? It's just some freaking ad. There's grass just chill why be mad it's just a it's just some

Starting point is 00:26:45 freaking ad there's grass man go touch it go touch it it's okay maybe go touch it with a paintbrush you know there's water there's water restrictions in place if you can't water it if you live around here it's really nice outside these days go paint outside get some green paint get it on there paint your lawn you took a while to figure out what i was talking about oh yeah i thought you were just like fancily telling people to go touch grass i didn't realize you were like there's a draw there's a draw go paint your grass screen oh sick it's like wow condescending much okay twitch chat you lost your chat privileges sorry go paint your employee's car exactly oh man all right i think it's one of those things where it's getting worse because the global stress

Starting point is 00:27:37 levels are so high small perceived slights yeah it's just that's that's what we're kind of saying it's like you get that but just relax oh man there's so many not worth it there's so many like legitimately scary things to be mad about oh yeah we should legitimately be upset about the whole like ai generative like they took our jobs there's lots of situation there's tons of problems that apple ad just isn't it yeah so why why invest the energy in it save it it's like hugh grant look save your strength no offense but when's the last time you made a movie that i wouldn't just watch on my ipad boom roasted hugh grant what does he make he was actually in that dungeons and dragons movie that was very good oh yeah i i i i

Starting point is 00:28:19 legitimately actually i i i do enjoy so very recently films oh yeah oh no no i i know i know i know i was just no i was just i was i was i was just quoting yeah he's cool you don't know actors i don't know anybody i know it's sad anyway why don't we move on microsoft has been catchy okay okay back to things that you should be mad about here here is a legitimate here's a legitimate channel for that energy this could take some action microsoft has suddenly closed it's not an ad three studios that it acquired alongside bethesda including tango gameworks the developer of the award-winning and widely praised hi-fi rush arcane oh sorry uh hi-fi rush uh oh how do i pronounce austin

Starting point is 00:29:13 uh i think that's supposed to be austin oh that makes way more sense arcane austin developer of prey and redfall was another loss meaning that development of Redfall... It's Arkane Studios in Austin, Texas. ...is effectively over, and its promised DLC has been cancelled. Purchasers of the Hero Pass that promised access to this future DLC will instead receive a credit of unknown value. Neat. And the studio head at Arkane Austin's sister studio, Arkane Leon, called the closure a f***ing gut stab. Fans, meanwhile, have been reverse review bombing HiFi Rush with positive reviews in a show of support. According to reporting from Bloomberg,

Starting point is 00:29:55 even more Microsoft studios are likely to close in the near future due to a widespread cost-cutting initiative. There's other reasons as well. Maybe we'll get into them here. I'm not sure. During a Bloomberg event, Xbox president Sarah Bond gave a non-answer to the question of whether launching a surprise hit game

Starting point is 00:30:13 should protect a developer from being shut down. As the camera cut to a wide shot showing a very interesting graph of Xbox's year-over-year growth. Here comes our very interesting graph yeah all right cool are you allowed to call it growth i guess growth could be a negative number that makes sense xbox game studios head matt booty also inflamed the controversy when it was reported

Starting point is 00:30:42 that he told employees during an internal meeting a day after the closures that xbox needed smaller games that give us prestige and awards which is the the defense that i've heard around that yes um is that hi-fi rush was actually a surprisingly large game in the sense of the cost of development, studio size and stuff like that. But I would still argue that it out-preceded expectation. I mean, when we talk about big games these days, we're talking about quadruple A games. In my mind, honestly though,

Starting point is 00:31:22 when you tell me a big game these days i try to compare budgets of it so yeah i'm sitting here going okay well is it cyberpunk you know is it gta6 like what what's what's a big game so when you say smaller games he didn't even say small smaller games that give us prestige and awards yeah i don't know enough about the size of like um what was it was it arcane no tango gameworks i don't know i don't know anything about the size of of that so i can't really compare it and the whole triple a nomenclature is weird these days anyways because like what does it even mean anymore i i heard i don't remember where i heard this but i heard that the original naming for that came from like the finance industry and it was supposed to essentially define games that were like a safe investment because they were

Starting point is 00:32:11 like leaning on ips that people knew would sell and stuff like that and that's just not what the triple a industry is anymore here's my question if they're so strapped for cash could they have just not bought a bunch of studios yeah i wonder how for cash, could they have just not bought Bethesda? Not bought a bunch of studios? Yeah, I wonder how much... Not had a bunch of studios. Could they have just not bought Bethesda specifically? I wonder how much of this is specifically the failure of Starfield.

Starting point is 00:32:39 That's an interesting question. Because I talked about this on the WAN show, I don't know how long ago, but I had a discussion topic. I don't know how long ago, but I had a discussion topic. I don't know how we got onto this, but I talked about how, I think there were some quotes from the director of publishing,

Starting point is 00:32:52 from Larian or something in there as well. But I talked about how one of the big problems of these subscription services is that the companies running the subscription services are just going to want games that sell the subscription service. Yep, and they're going to have their own internal metrics,

Starting point is 00:33:09 which probably have deeply flawed aspects of them. Like, they're not going to be perfect. Yep, so they'll do it data-based on whatever, not data-based as in a database. Yeah, but based on data. Based on data. Data-driven decision-making. There we go, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:24 They'll do that but then what if the data is junk and i suspect a lot of that data is going to lead them to massive titles that bring in all of the people instead of these small games that like you know someone might subscribe to the service because they're like i want to i want to play the new halo or whatever but what they actually spend all their time playing because halo sucks now is stuff like um hi-fi rush or whatever else but if they on their exiting survey and they're they're the first game they play when they sign up if those aren't these smaller titles it might not bring light to them and if they should be able to see the play time though yeah but if you have a bunch of play time

Starting point is 00:34:02 yeah i don't know it's it totally depends on how they're measuring that data it also it also is i'm i i guarantee you look i don't i don't work at microsoft i don't work within the xbox team but i guarantee you that there's an element of this that's political as well because any time you just have a bucket of money someone is going to decide what to do with that money. If all of these games were selling on their own individual merit, generating their own revenue, then it would be directly attributable right back to the team that worked on it. Whereas if all of these games are minor contributors to a gigantic bucket of money called game pass revenue that someone or someone's

Starting point is 00:34:48 is in charge of divvying up kind of going okay so reinvestment wise uh this is going to go into what we think is a good bet over here and this is going to go into what we think is a good bet over here just because you made something great last time that contributed a whole bunch of subscribers a whole bunch of play time doesn't necessarily mean that you will be divvied anything yeah so it's actually the complete and what's funny is because what if they don't believe in your vision for your next proposed project then instead of you just automatically having the money for it anyway because your last project did really well you could just be rug pulled and everything's gone and what's funny

Starting point is 00:35:30 about this is i remember us having conversations about how subscription services could be a savior for smaller game developers they and and and they could have it sort of was for a little bit and they could have been because this this idea that of feast and famine, where you launch your game, you get a whole bunch of revenue, you squirrel it away like a squirrel saving nuts. Okay, you squirrel it away and then you kind of ration it out until you can get your next game launched. That wasn't sustainable right and so the idea that you could just have a little bit of consistent revenue trickling in on a more regular basis by contributing to this pool of games that people can play you know games netflix style it all it all seemed like a a pretty happy idea here's here's another part of the problem so i don't think this was in the notes

Starting point is 00:36:27 but and if i click on the fortune.com article to try to actually get the whole thing uh there's a giant ad that i can't get past to pay money to fortune so i'm just going to read off of the the google search result for it but it says uh speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company's studios had been spread too thin, like peanut butter on bread, which I thought was a really weird analogy for spread too thin, but sure. And that leaders across the division had felt understaffed and they decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere. So they bought all these things.

Starting point is 00:37:04 Right. up resources elsewhere so they bought all these things right didn't have the the like plan high level leadership to to manage all these sub studios now and then we're just like and closed it what a waste like there's there's like an embracer group just like bought a bunch of stuff and then closed them and microsoft just bought a bunch of stuff and then closed them. And Microsoft just bought a bunch of stuff and closed them. This isn't going to make people get interested in your other garbage games that you're releasing. It's just going to create more people buying other stuff

Starting point is 00:37:34 unrelated to you. If we look at a lot of the really big successes as to late, they have not been big Microsoft titles. What about Halo Infinite? It's just not working. the buy them and close the model is not going to be effective i pretty much guarantee and i just i gotta i gotta kind of wonder right like bean counters you know if you if you're being counting accounting calculation goes okay this bean costs one billion dollars okay um so you buy it for a

Starting point is 00:38:10 billion dollars nice and then you basically go okay it's a solid bean right there okay let's throw away this bean i could fit so much fiber in that bean. Yeah. What's your plan? Like, how did that make it past? How did that make it past the, you know, that old meme format where the guy gets like hucked out of the window of the boardroom? Like how? How did it make it past that guy? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:37 I actually don't get it. And to be clear, you know, it's not like as a a company we've never overextended ourselves and and been in a position where you know having twice as many people is is you know actually less efficient right like it's it's not like we aren't at a size where i get that growth has pains but you don't have to buy things and they did they closed it so fast they didn't buy bethesda that long ago no like it's very quickly no my goodness oh man but throwing away the bean is a tax write-off drop table employees and floatplane chat you're banned i'm kidding i'm kidding i do wonder like how much like how much of this is just like stock minor like minor

Starting point is 00:39:26 stock manipulation or or like trying to appease stockholders at all like well because if they if they if they have all these studios like is it is it better from a stockholders perspective or someone potentially purchasing a stock this is stuff i am not good at don't know a lot about so just big warning before people get pissed off um from from that perspective is it better for them to just focus on future revenue than care about what's in the bank right now and i think yes right so they can spend fairly recklessly to like buy studios as long as they're sharpening the sword for the future is that is that how the like capitalist stock market stock market perspective goes so what you want if you are an acquisition company which at a certain point they are every company is you're essentially just when's the last time microsoft invented anything and you can basically say that about any gigantic multi-hundreds of

Starting point is 00:40:23 billions of dollars company. Some of them do... They just buy small companies. They do very real research and development, but a lot of the time, they're out there acquiring. They buy OpenAI. They're acquiring, they're acquiring, they're acquiring. So at a certain level, pretty much every company is an acquisition company.

Starting point is 00:40:41 So they take capital from shareholders, from investors, and they use that capital to buy something that has recurring revenue. Then they basically just need to maintain whatever their target balance of revenue to operational expenses is. And if they don't, then their share price crashes, their credit worthiness tanks, and they are in enormous trouble because they have a bunch of debt, right? Because they needed that investment in on to constantly show a really high operating income, which is that operating revenue minus operational expenses calculation. And so what they might do is buy something, and then if it doesn't immediately spin the money machine fast enough by shedding it well a penny saved is a penny earned yeah and from an investor standpoint the the minor details like like the amount of money that they had to spend to to reach that number on a quarter by quarter

Starting point is 00:42:01 by quarter by quarter basis uh doesn't really matter as long as they find some other thing to acquire that like does more better or some other thing that you know does whatever it's it's just effectively cost of doing business there is no human element to any of this and that's why you see decisions like this being made. That's why you see this level of recklessness or callousness, I guess, is probably the better word. The example of Tesla just laying off their supercharging. Does that change though? Because they bought Bethesda for like around 10%

Starting point is 00:42:36 of just the cash on hand that they had. So I don't know. I mean, it was probably still done as some debt purchase because whatever, but. was probably still done as some debt purchase because whatever but um i guess what i'm trying to say is that immediate loss on bethesda doesn't really matter as long as they maintain that ratio this is what i was trying this was also the point that i was effectively trying oh i see like does spending the money effectively not matter and then they try to sharpen the sword afterwards so like the purchase of studios from these large companies means honestly next to nothing yeah like it's um

Starting point is 00:43:11 and and and they can play an extremely long game as long as they don't run out of capital like i think i've talked about this before but one of my friends um has a has an independently owned veterinary practice and um she was talking to me about the nightmare that it was to be bidding on the veterinary practice that she worked at so she worked there she started as an employee and is now the owner but her journey there was arduous um and as she was reaching the final stages of her negotiation to purchase the veterinary practice um the the problem was that she was bidding against a large you could call them a veterinary company but remember what i just said any company once it's large enough is just an acquisition company. So what they really

Starting point is 00:44:05 are, are an acquisition and holding company that happens to focus on investments into veterinary practices, because it's a space that they are deeply invested in, which can come with strategic advantages, which I'll get to in a second. And so the problem that she had was typically you would value a business on some multiple of their earnings before something, something, I forget, whatever, it's called EBITDA. So, you know, let's say three to five X for a business that's not expected to experience any kind of explosive growth. And what that essentially means is let's say that number was $10 million. I would expect to buy uh your your veterinary practice that makes um two million dollars a year i would expect to buy it for somewhere between six and ten million dollars

Starting point is 00:44:51 and the idea is that if i continue to run it well i will make back my six to ten million dollars in three to five years and if it's a business that's expected to grow then you would expect a higher multiplier because if i run it competently well it should grow and i should i should make my money back in an even shorter period of time and you can see much much higher ebitdas in fields like tech where they're expecting this company to explosively grow in the next two years to the point where they might get that return in you know 18 months right well a veterinary practice isn't like that you know they're they're probably gonna be pretty consistent you might see you might see steady growth everyone buys pets because of covid or something like that that there's no way you can see it coming but there's only so many

Starting point is 00:45:39 there's only so many operating rooms you know there's only so many dogs you can cut open at a time and um and and so so there's there's kind of limits but true yes there's kind of limits to to how much it can grow yeah and so you know somewhere somewhere in the three to four to five x um ranges it's probably reasonable for something like that but what she was up against was a company that was bidding about double that. And she's looking at it going, this makes no real sense. Like, the cost, like, I have to have debt in order to, I don't have that kind of money sitting in the bank. It's millions of dollars. Even a vet, right? They don't have that kind of money sitting in the bank it's it's millions of dollars what even a vet right like they don't have millions of dollars of cash in the bank it

Starting point is 00:46:29 doesn't work like that like you have to you have to take on debt in order to make an acquisition like that and um so how does this make any sense the amount of interest i'm going to be paying right so but she's up against a group that is playing such a long long game they just don't even care that they don't care they want effectively monopolistic ownership of all the veterinary practices and the general areas that's right they're operating they're playing such a long game and their shareholders don't care about that big hit to the balance sheet this quarter what they care about about is the money machine churning out consistent income.

Starting point is 00:47:11 And then once there's nothing else to acquire, well, they still have to have that go up. So what they do is, now that they control all the veterinary practices in the Vancouver area, they jack up the prices. And that's the end game. It destroys everything.

Starting point is 00:47:28 And the reality of it is that regulators are not going to get involved in community veterinary practices because it's not a monopoly in the strictest sense of the word. It's anti-competitive, sure. But realistically, when there are so much bigger battles to fight like you know the 400 band-aid that might end up on your invoice at a at a hospital for example what so like your your dog's broken leg cost you more because some company owns all the vet like i'm sorry i don't have time for this it's something that would be nice if they pursued and i'm happy that these days they do seem to be doing

Starting point is 00:48:07 roughly anything um but yeah there might be bigger fish so i um so so basically yeah that's the that's the long and short of it they don't care because they don't care because it just doesn't matter to them, which really sucks. So the good news for my friend who owns the practice is that Dr. Smith is a good guy, one of those people who actually puts people above money and took the human offer that's cool yeah that's actually really good yeah so uh if you guys are ever ever need need help with uh and don't don't assume most people are going to do that either no most people would take the big offer and and

Starting point is 00:48:59 you can tell yourself all day you can tell yourself all day and night i would take it i would take the human offer and then the offers on the table and then and then there's literally millions millions of dollars at stake it's in front of you the document is there all you have to do is sign it pretty much no one's gonna know that you did this most people will sign it yeah um but it was uh it was pretty cool so dr smith super cool and um yeah yeah shout out shout out my friend cindy from phaser heights animal hospital um really really good good person um yeah she's she's super cool so if you guys i don't think they they don't do birds unfortunately for yeah um they specialize

Starting point is 00:49:40 in dogs and cats but our vet is actually they they're very nice people. They're just really far away. That's the main annoying part. We're supposed to explain and do two merch messages. Shall we? Yeah. You want me to do it? Yeah, why don't you do it for a change? You always do it.

Starting point is 00:50:00 I know. Merch messages are the premier way of sending messages into the show. There are others and they are inferior. This is the way to do it. You get stuff. Could you buy a gift card? Yes, if you really just wanted nothing. But you should probably get something for your message that you choose to send into the store.

Starting point is 00:50:20 If you choose to do so, you can go onto the store pick an item add it to your cart view your cart and there you go on the cart page you can see the merch message you can check the little box i would like my purchase to appear as a merch message on the ltd stream and then leave whatever message you want to leave you can pick your little color you can do all that type of stuff you can make it anonymous if you want etc and then either uh you'll say bad things that we don't want to show up on the show and we'll hide it and it will never be shown to anyone uh or dan will read it and go like i can respond to that he'll respond to it through text and then it will show up on the bottom of the screen where this banner currently

Starting point is 00:51:01 is it'll show your message and then it will show dan's response or one of the uh or linus or myself will do a text response or it will be selected as a discussion question for linus and i and dan potentially to discuss live on the show dark 24 on floatplane says i hate stuff i just want to buy words hey good news you're subscribed to floatplane yeah you did it good job you succeeded you found you found the place where we will take your money to have to have colorful colorful your name in colorful words yeah oh and also you know behind the scenes and all that kind of cool stuff we do have some updates on the store so we finally finally brought back some of our classic t-shirts ram hard drive processor and gpu are all back that's right my friends processor shirt is so sick we even retook photos and this is really funny uh maria sent me this uh earlier today

Starting point is 00:52:02 she was like dude i don't know how you did this. Is it exactly the same? But your picture looks exactly the same. Oh, okay. This goes to the same one every time. Okay, hold on. I'll get this. This man has practice.

Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, your hands are in slightly different positions, but they're very similar. She was like, dude, what the the head is like identical this is this is not like photoshop these are not two set these are these are two completely different pictures taken like a couple minutes apart where i walked off i walked off the the photo set changed my shirt walked back, stood there and absolutely nailed it that's awesome

Starting point is 00:52:50 oh get over it Elijah there's a breaking news, Linus looks like Linus that's not the point Elijah Xavier says Xavier says the wrinkles are different my goodness in the shirt these are the people that didn't like the Apple ad the shirt wrinkles are different. My goodness! In the shirt. These are the people that didn't like the Apple ad.

Starting point is 00:53:07 The shirt wrinkles are different. I know what they meant. It wasn't the shirt wrinkles. It was the real ones. Don't make me go get more procedures. Oh my goodness. No, I'm done. Alright, actual merch message time?

Starting point is 00:53:23 Dan, hit us? Yeah, sure. Wait, hold hold on there's a few notes there's a few notes uh these are printed on our old american apparel blanks apparently oh what uh and the hard drive and ram shirts are still being printed so shipping for those will be a little bit delayed limited quantities available oh i see so we're just blowing away some leftover american apparel shirt stock okay cool i mean the american apparel shirts they were good enough for us to sell for many years good shirts i do like our new ones better but yeah but hey but they're good shirts classic designs let's go hey sorry go ahead hey lentil lungs and door i've noticed the last few these are getting really weird i've noticed that the

Starting point is 00:54:00 last few handheld pc videos haven't mentioned the steam deck much is that because it's not a good comparison because of price or performance what it isn't is an apples to apples comparison the steam deck is an incredible console but for the same reason that i wouldn't necessarily talk about the nintendo switch in the same breath as every new handheld PC. I also am beginning to view the Steam Deck in a bit of a different light. It, excuse me, is priced very aggressively, which is amazing. It offers a very console-like experience where instant wake, instant are are integral to the experience uh it's a it's a fantastic console um but much like a console its library is a little bit more limited and a lot of that's it's not valve's fault it's due to um you know whether it's the developer of the game or the

Starting point is 00:55:01 developer of the anti-cheat it's it's down to developers either refusal or or unwillingness to build linux support into their games um i mean yeah i guess it's i guess it's mostly that uh but it's it's just a different product it's an amazing product the oled perversion oh man the screen on it is just incredible but i also have a tendency to lean more toward lean on my own experiences when i'm evaluating products and the reality of it is that rog ally one i i don't daily drive a steam deck because for me the trade-offs the the things that I give up for being on Windows are not worth what I gain by being on a Steam Deck of course you know these are devices that you know one of each is sitting in the warehouse so I don't have to necessarily consider the price I was just gonna say if if yeah you're covering it now but the steam deck is significantly cheaper

Starting point is 00:56:06 yeah the steam deck is an amazing piece of hardware it's also not as performant as the latest handheld pcs and that's that's again that's part of the trade-off when did it launch it's been a minute dude yeah it's been a few years at this point i think because it was what 2020 2020 i know it when when it was announced we were doing land show remotely um it it did not launch in 2022 did it oh my goodness it's 2024 okay yeah oh wow okay so my problem there wasn't that i didn't realize how long ago the steam deck launched i didn't realize what year it was what is time it's current year oh anyway wow that's scary so um nokia asks do you feel proton os has matured enough to be competitive as an os i don't know maybe it's ever actually fucking released the bloody thing we'd be able to have a conversation about that sorry sorry you've

Starting point is 00:57:01 just you've touched a bit of a nerve because i've been putting off the linux challenge v2 for the release of steam os oh yeah and every time i ask those guys hey how's it going they're like we're on it and i'm like right but that's not what i asked i asked is it can it be on my computer not are you on it um and and it just keeps not appearing and i get it valve's a well i was gonna say busy company but they've got some stuff going on no they got stuff making lots of money yeah and you know what i'm willing to bet that they have some wild skunk work stuff. Probably. Who knows if they'll ever release it. Well, yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:49 I suspect... They're just too busy making tons of money. I don't know anything about... And evaluating the absurd amount more money than they make than all the other companies. I don't know anything about the internal workings of Valve. Other than that they make disgusting amounts of money. I've never worked there. But what I suspect, based on everything I've seen out of these guys,

Starting point is 00:58:08 is that they probably build more products than they actually release. I'm sure. They'd be bored. They're making all this money. They might as well do something. By a significant margin. I mean, did you see the rig that they built

Starting point is 00:58:19 for that Steam Deck OLED commercial where they built that sphere out of Steam deck oled screens i don't think so yeah it's it's wild it's it is peak because we can oh yeah for sure 100 they might as well spend all that money on something there was absolutely there was absolutely no reason no reason whatsoever for them to do that practically like that they could have come up with any other concept for a commercial but they did that because somebody was like that'd be cool that'd be neat can we afford it easily just send it

Starting point is 00:58:57 man i really wish those guys would hurry up and get a flippin get a flippin index to go in here because there have been some advancements in lens technology and in screen technology that i'm sure valve has been doing stuff with they just won't they just won't give me my new they won't give me my new headset really want it more please um so yeah yeah steam deck super cool it'll definitely be back in the conversation around steam deck too um we definitely will you know bring it up i mean the oh the rog ally x uh people are talking about that apparently there's a leak or something yeah i think i think that's that's a topic in here actually the rog ally x um i don't think it's like a huge jump though a little bit more battery life i i think it's like a i mean to be fair they're naming it fairly

Starting point is 00:59:55 properly for this but i think it's like kind of like a pro model not a generational leap if that makes sense yeah should we should we jump into that and then we'll do the other merch message we can do that sure rg ally x asus has teased the rg ally x which they claimed is somewhere between a sequel to the original ally and a revision of it featuring a new black color the x will sport larger battery life allegedly way more than way more more than 30 to 40 percent more capacity i doubt it it's probably something more like that it's probably like 30 to 40 percent more capacity i doubt it it's probably something more like that it's probably like 30 to 40 capacity i think this is written as allegedly way more like 30 to 40 more capacity that's what i'm assuming anyways svp what does that mean senior vice president cool sean yen hinted at the verge that the new handheld would give at least three hours of battery life

Starting point is 01:00:44 playing intensive games however the device will be slightly heavier because of said larger battery asus says the ally x should have more than the 16 gigs of ram uh the ally non-x currently has and it will apparently be repairable with redesigned joystick modules that are more interchangeable so just the joysticks that sounds pretty cool i mean that's something that's a good thing yeah yeah uh it will feature an m.2 2280 slot rather than the 2230 so if you want to throw like an eight terabyte ssd because you enjoy having having a an ssd that costs three times as much as your computer they still won't admit that the ally's sd card reader had any fault but the ally x will have a rearranged motherboard layout that will just happen to move the sd card slot away from the vents interesting however the screen will be exactly the same and so will the amd z1 or z1 extreme um apu the steam deck oled this is not um so yeah that makes

Starting point is 01:01:49 sense more battery life which is fair i understand it's a steam deck oled this is not is that what i said yeah i'm sure yeah anyway but yes so it will it will apparently not be getting an oled screen okay coming on june 2nd yeah um our discussion question here is what other upgrades would you have liked to see uh i i can't comment on anything so soon other than what's in here i mean i wouldn't have minded seeing more performance but i guess more battery life is also pretty good i would have liked to see another usbc port um they're oh i'm honestly surprised they have a revision already on my trip to japan i had this brilliant idea that on the plane uh my kids could play like multiplayer games with uh with this portable um i grabbed one of the one of the screens it happens

Starting point is 01:02:42 to be in asus like rog portable monitor uh so i grabbed one of the ones one of the screens is it happens to be in Asus, like ROG portable monitor. So I grabbed one of the ones out of my car and I brought it with me so that they could put it in the middle seat and sit three abreast and then play games together. And I could run them off the ally. And I was like, man, that would be sick. And so I brought a USB-C cable and I plugged it between the ally and the monitor and went, Oh, hold on a second it's not like this monitor supports power delivery how on earth am i gonna charge this did i bring a micro hdmi to

Starting point is 01:03:11 usbc adapt no then i still couldn't charge so now you need like a dock yeah so yeah exactly exactly and i didn't i didn't think to bring a DACA. It's completely on me. But the difference maker would have been if it just had two USB-C ports like so many other handhelds do. So I would love to see that. That's something that has affected me personally. But other than that, I don't know. I'd love to see Hall Effect joysticks.

Starting point is 01:03:45 I guess the repairability might help a little bit. No, no, I'm just... I was asked what I would like to see. I can only comment on what's written here because who knows what I might or might not know. Faster, better, stronger is cool. It's a portable device. You could hope basically everything would be better.

Starting point is 01:04:02 I'm surprised there's a revision already. That's all. Because how long is the Allies quite a bit newer than the Steam Deck? No, the Steam Deck's huge. No, no, no, no. More recently released. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Starting point is 01:04:19 So, yeah, it was released June 13th, 2023. So it's been less than a year and they're revising it already. That's pretty fast in the device realm well i mean that's the that's the it industry cycle though and that's again something that makes the steam deck feel a lot more console like to me is it's very clearly on a more console like refresh cycle i mean it's still that steam deck is still rdna 2 isn't it i think rdna 2 excuse me zen 2 i think so yeah yeah yeah even though zen 3 was coming and we're already on zen 4 now like they could if they were just you know using a random apu uh off of amd's out of amd's product catalog then they could easily be revising it, but it's clear

Starting point is 01:05:06 that Valve is serious about treating it like a console, where they lock in the spec, and they build performance targets for various games, they build profiles, and it's not just a PC, where you're expected to just

Starting point is 01:05:22 tinker around with your graphics sliders. You can, because, man, Valve is pretty chill about that kind of stuff like here yeah why don't you play around with your power profile and why don't you why don't you play around with all these settings but but they're they're obviously trying to yeah they're trying to create a console-like experience okay second we're technically jumping to a second we're still on time uh let's see hey dll i was recently thrust into a manager position after the sudden ousting of my boss we have a team of 50 people any tips for dealing with employees who make the same mistakes over and over fire them i'm i'm actually i'm actually kidding because it's not that simple i mean people make mistakes i make mistakes i like here what what are the what are here what are the marriage

Starting point is 01:06:15 uh like divorce statistics divorce rates close to 50 percent um here divorce rates usa um afternoon a lot of that is repeat offenders as far as i know though the overall trend in the okay yeah no we're not we're not the point is that people make mistakes they make them over and over and over again it is a serious strain on the relationship so apparently first marriages is around 40 to 50 percent and second marriages around 60 to 67 yeah there you go so if your hope is to build a team of people that are not going to make mistakes over and over and over again and the reason that i'm bringing up marriages is that's probably the relationship in our lives that is most committed.

Starting point is 01:07:09 And I'm not talking like a parent-child relationship. I'm talking voluntary relationships. This is probably the relationship in our lives that is most committed, at least on paper. And it is one that we clearly allow the day-to-day issues that we deal with trying to work as a team sorry i keep gesturing at luke but maybe yvonne is somewhere over there um it's one where where we we clearly allow the day-to-day issues that we encounter when we're trying to work together as a team to destroy and that rate of destruction is something like well apparently you know 30 to 65 percent or

Starting point is 01:07:49 something like that so with that in mind if you build a team that is three people odds are you're going to want to divorce one of them in some period of time yeah so you just have to find ways polyamorous people are just in shambles right now i don't know how you guys do it i mean look i i'm not i'm not i'm i'm i'm not judging uh you know like the the the the the relationship style that you don that works for me might not work for you. And what works for you today might not work for you tomorrow. What works for me now might not work for me later. You know, this stuff, it's fluid. It's all cool.

Starting point is 01:08:36 No judgment here. There's a zero judgment zone. But I have no idea how you do it. I just, man, maintaining one relationship is like... And to be clear, Yvonne's great. Like, dude, like, I'm extremely

Starting point is 01:08:54 lucky. But, man, relationships take work. Like, if I had two Yvonnes in my life, I'd be like... Things would be so incredibly well planned and organized though that's true but what if one of them planned it one way oh no and the other organized it another way and there was a conflict he's gonna step back he's gonna step back you gotta retreat no there's no way no there's no way i i mean i don't want them both dead i mean yeah one of them might win but the other would be definitely you know in pieces yeah too

Starting point is 01:09:32 yeah like not they wouldn't be alive for long yeah you know what i mean it's you know yeah you don't thunder don't unstoppable force and immovable object um what were we talking about right how to how to manage a team oh yeah the same mistakes yeah evaluate the mistake see how bad it is coach this is yeah if this is a super bad thing work on coaching it if you can't coach it and it doesn't stop at a certain point he was not serious when he mentioned it but at a certain point you do have to let people go but there's a lot of steps that you can take on the way i mean uh you can you can you know put together a performance improvement plan lay out very clear guidelines communicate that's that's a big thing it has they have to know way ahead of time yeah that this if not fixed could result in a firing or whatever else and and give them updates on how well they're

Starting point is 01:10:22 doing check in with them on stuff see how if they're implementing things to fix it, try to help them implement things, try to come up with ideas for them to implement solutions to try to help them progress on this problem. If they never do, maybe this just isn't the right job for them. Yeah, and good thing you didn't marry them. Yeah. And you know what?

Starting point is 01:10:41 They might be awesome, and they might be super successful in another role somewhere else totally but sometimes sometimes the healthier thing for both people in a relationship and you know what working together is uh a relationship it's not a relationship in the same sense that you know a marriage is a relationship but it's anything a friendship is a relationship being colleagues is a relationship they're at different levels obviously but sometimes a relationship is just not working yeah for both parties yeah and the better thing is to have it not be a real to not be in that relationship anymore yeah i don't know but just don't read some books try to try to avoid it

Starting point is 01:11:26 that's also very helpful yeah for real stuff from reading books read and but yeah just just make sure it's not a surprise that's my big thing um work with them try to really heavily communicate uh don't don't just blindside them um give them the chance to receive that feedback and improve and like any relationship don't let things build up and then explode at them because that's not helpful for anybody yeah on either side timely feedback is really really important and it can be hard because i'm sorry did you say you have 50 reports that's too that's way too many that is like three to four times i'm hoping that they are one of the managers of 50 it's four to five times too many. That is like three to four times too many. I'm hoping that they are one of the managers of 50 people. It's four to five times too many, actually.

Starting point is 01:12:08 I'm just doing the math here. That is way too many people. It's too many. So if that's the idea, then good luck. Sharaf2k says, The idea of any company ever starting a pip in earnest is laughable as a company that has definitely used pips with success to rehabilitate uh relationships um you're wrong i think they are often misused oh 100 so so i'm sure maybe

Starting point is 01:12:41 sharf has had one of the misused against them before or knows someone where that's happened or whatever. A PIP is a performance improvement plan, which is essentially a extremely direct form of communication of, hey, this thing is not being done up to standard. This is exactly what the standard should look like. This is exactly where the shortfalls are. And this is the timeline during which there needs to be an improvement yeah so it's just a super super documented and very direct form of that communication which theoretically in my opinion you should have softer forms of communication before getting there um but it is absolutely a step along the

Starting point is 01:13:23 chain and there's people that can get there and then come all the way back and do well and just move on from it. And there's people that will fail the pip and then it is what it is. But there are companies that use pips to just fire people with documentation, which is not how they should be used. They should be used to try to solve a problem. Um, so I think they're often misused, which is why they have the bad rap that they have. Yeah, no, a hundred, a hundred percent. so i think they are often misused which is why they have the bad rap that they have yeah no 100 100 they deserve the bad rap but that doesn't mean that every company is monstrous and just uses them as a paper trail to fire people yeah elijah's had 12 pips already that's what he says in chat at least he was at least he was on the

Starting point is 01:14:04 ball enough to put a slash S on it this time. We've had to have a lot of conversations recently about just like jokes that we kind of can't make anymore because people don't seem to understand that their jokes, or at least a percentage of the viewer base doesn't seem to understand when things are a joke. I actually forget what one from writer's meeting was today, but I had to have just kind of a downer conversation with everyone where it was like look

Starting point is 01:14:29 that's a title that some time ago um i would have said yeah that's hilarious um now people are going to take it seriously and yeah i get talked to the most about jokes no actually you don't um yeah it was and it was like uh like it was one of those jokes that was like i've made a huge mistake or yeah i never yeah yeah the title was we made a big mistake and unfortunately we're in an environment now where a significant number of people enough people that it that it seems to affect sentiment towards our company yeah we'll read that headline and go oh those guys made a mistake again yeah yeah when it's just it's just a title calm the f**k down it's just a title of a video you think that by the time we title the video like we didn't we didn't problem solve the steps like we didn't we didn't you know

Starting point is 01:15:27 figure figure some stuff out like we're it's it's it's a mechanism to to draw people into the video right and like um oh man ploof ploof committed a sin today he didn't do anything wrong and uh you know it's it's the same thing where some period of time ago I'd have been like, that's hilarious. Let's do that as our intro. But a significant number of people, just whether it's sort of a lack of social awareness or whether it's just a current environment problem where what's real and what's a joke is just so blurry not really clear anymore um the intro that he had written was for we did um we did another aliexpress shopping spree video where five people were basically told okay it's a competition to buy the weirdest computer component on aliexpress that's fun and yeah it yeah it's totally fun and so he had this

Starting point is 01:16:25 intro written for it that was um like something something something and their job is basically to waste my money wait what how much of my money did you waste you know and plouffe loves that like he thinks that stuff's hilarious because I mean, as the primary shareholder of Linus media group, that effectively when he, when he blows money on like a paint job for his car, he's like, yeah,

Starting point is 01:16:58 let's go. Like, like that's his, that's his sense of humor. Right. And, and Jake tends to be one of the ones that leans pretty hard into that as well because he he genuinely just thinks it's funny and then you get these people that are that are like yeah you can tell the way linus's staff talks about

Starting point is 01:17:16 money that he's like such a miser and like that there's a ton of pressure on them and they're like they're trying to read these like psychological cues on people's faces and you're just sitting here going like... Yeah, because if that was the case, we'd let that go through editing. Yeah. If there was that much corruption, it just wouldn't show up on the camera. And I would sign the purchase approval. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:37 What are you talking about? You think... Have some game sense. But there's a significant enough portion of the audience that we just like we can't uh like the the l is for narcissist thing yeah hilarious i don't think i don't think it would make it into the edit today but the the problem is that it like it did and then people took it super super super seriously like what do you think happened like once it once it once it gets ingested into the camera it just

Starting point is 01:18:09 like must show up on youtube and then what's what's really funny what's really funny to me about it is that a joke like that is allowed in the video and then people still are under the impression that i'm some kind of thin skin. Draconian. And I'm kind of sitting here going like, when did humor. You thought it was funny because it was funny. It was a good joke. Good joke. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:34 When did humor become such a serious thing? I had never even seen it. And then it like came up. I was talking to Dan or something and it came up and I went back and watched it and just it immediately got me hard i burst out laughing it was hilarious delivery on it was great it was hilarious very funny and then it just yeah people just take it like a billion miles and like the very best sort of um i'd say i appreciate a dry cutting joke and like the very best cutting jokes yeah there's a little bit of truth in it sure i think to be a youtuber i think to be a social media personality you don't necessarily have to be to a disordered level, but like anything, you know, self-absorption is going to be on a

Starting point is 01:19:26 spectrum and you have to obviously reach a point where you make a binary decision. Some degree of it's all about me to put your face on camera. Exactly. You reach this decision point where you go, I should talk about myself on the internet and other people should find it interesting. I can make a career out of this. Exactly. People should,

Starting point is 01:19:52 people should be supportive of my efforts to talk about my damn self on the internet, right? Like there has to be a little bit of that. And there's also the self-awareness of that too but like it's like i don't know i but i don't i don't i don't think people it's funny i don't think people necessarily necessarily see that i think i've talked about this on the i think i've talked about this on the wan show before where i will often joke about saying do you even know who i am because what's funny to me is that no they don't the vast majority of people do not i am not you're not specifically into

Starting point is 01:20:33 computers i am not mr beast yeah like i could walk into the average high school and if i happen to be walking past the computer lab when the bell rings I'm gonna get a couple of those but that is that is not the level of fame that I have and if I get a speeding ticket for example no I am not going to be getting out of my speeding ticket because people like my f***ing tech tips that is actually not how this works that's the joke do you even know who i am no and we're both in on it but that but that seems to have become a narrative about me in certain circles and i'm just like all right sure wait what you can't get out of speeding tickets no believe it or not i have never successfully gotten out of a speeding ticket by being me and before you ask no i've never brought

Starting point is 01:21:35 up that i am me it'd be really fun because it would not matter if i was in the passenger seat it would be hilarious like i'm, I'm imagining this right now. Hi, yeah, hi, officer. I mean, surely we can come to an understanding here. What if I put you in the credits for the next video? Yeah, do you know this face? Do you know who I am? No? No?

Starting point is 01:22:01 Okay, you got a tech-savvy nephew. You got a tech-s you got a tech savvy nephew tell them who you got in the car right here and then tell me you're still giving me a shit come on then again then again back to the whole what's real and what's not it's not like we don't see tiktoks and youtube videos day in day out of people actually f***ing behaving like that yeah but that's so so i don't blame people no no really though it's not unbelievable they don't know me personally they don't observe me in my daily life this is fair i'm still allowed to be annoyed that we can't make jokes oh yeah me too both sides are fair i think i think we can be annoyed that we can't make jokes and we can

Starting point is 01:22:51 understand why dude it's sad i like i like i like playing the role yeah of the of the kind of incompetent ignoramus who is discovering something because at some point i didn't know and at some point it was really exciting to learn it and channeling that is one of the easiest ways for me to get amped up about something and and i've always loved and it's not so much of an act because at one point in time you were exactly and i've always loved putting myself in a position to have something explained to me by my on-camera uh you know co-host or or by another member of the tech subject matter expert of the tech youtube space or or or a subject matter expert i i have intentionally put myself in these positions time and time and time again even though a lot of the time i wrote the goddamn script or at least part of it yeah but people don't seem to understand that

Starting point is 01:23:53 the actor is not necessarily exactly who they play on tv and you know what i do make mistakes sometimes and sometimes i make them by accident a lot of the time when i goof is something on camera yeah it's on purpose i knew it was going to happen or i knew there was a very solid chance that it was going to happen and i thought it was funny or interesting but i do make mistakes and i think that this is one of those things where i have a family member that often says stuff that is just astronomically stupid and one of the things that he does is he'll do it on purpose just often enough that when he says something really stupid he can say right but

Starting point is 01:24:32 i was doing that thing i do where i say something really stupid and so knowing someone like that i can see how people would would think it's that but no, I'm just a little bit stupid. It's the old troll argument. Yeah. Where people are like, just, where even is it? Where people are just actually and they're, oh, I was just trolling. Yeah. And then they'll actually troll in fun ways sometimes.

Starting point is 01:24:59 Yeah. Then every once in a while, they'll go way too far, but then just try to fall back on the excuse, and it's like, no, you're just just a loser yeah yeah you're just actually mean and people don't like you no one wants you to be around got him what are we even supposed to be talking about right now i was just gonna ask that nice uh okay let's do a topic switch to what you guys want to hear about yeah let's i mean is announcing that you're going to have an announcement but you're not going to announce what you're announcing is that even

Starting point is 01:25:28 newsworthy there is fine fine supplier leaks so okay nintendo announced that it will be announcing the successor to the switch so we need to discuss what we think it might be called uh within this fiscal year which means by the end of march 2025. Oh, fiscal year. Yeah, okay. Nintendo has also said that their June Nintendo Direct will focus on titles for their current console set. Oh, set to come out on the second half of the year. Paper launch, question mark?

Starting point is 01:25:57 The company president recently told investors that it's not including Switch 2 sales and it's forecast for the same period, implying the console will launch sometime after the end of march a recent massive spec leak based on shipping manifests which is usually a pretty solid solid one indicator of what it will actually be indicated that the console features 12 gigs of lp ddr5x memory it's pretty aggressive on the memory side yeah 256 gigs of ufs 3.1 storage and an 8 inch display the switch oled for example is seven inches and an nvidia tegra 23 9

Starting point is 01:26:36 same one spotted in many past switch to leaks which is the slightly sad part for me because some of these leaks for this processor are old yeah it's ampere based is uh is my understanding of it but ampere's okay ampere and and my understanding again is that it's not pure ampere so i think some of the stuff is newer like it might have newer newer ai stuff so so the upscaling on this thing might be awesome. It should be pretty good. And when you consider Nintendo's typical visual style, upscaling should work really well. I like skipped 3000 series. Did they have DLSS specifically?

Starting point is 01:27:19 Yeah. Yeah, 2000 series. Because that's like the future of all the things. 2000 series was when they introduced all the ai stuff and ray tracing stuff got more refined with 3000 and then 3000 series was when it got usable yeah um so you wanted to talk about naming for this yeah why because nintendo's pulled some weird stuff out in the past oh i see so is it going to be like we do you or or there's been some like nest to super nest yes stuff which was had like they literally called one of them new

Starting point is 01:27:51 yeah that was that was weird dude so like they've really pulled some stuff out so like is this the new switch yeah that's funny we make fun of microsoft a lot for their console names way worse and oh i don't know about worse but they're definitely equally bad can we agree they're equally bad yes okay yeah we agree they're equally bad i just the reason why i said way worse is i had flashbacks to nom of the wii u launch like some of it's kind of made sense like the game boy advance is definitely better than a game boy and it's like kind of game boy like game boy sp was weird yeah ds light made sense sort of yeah wasn't it actually like a performance jump as well um i don't remember but it was lighter but it was l-i-t-e yeah yeah you know light

Starting point is 01:28:37 like i wasn't a huge fan of that one because I thought it was actually a... 3DS made sense. 3DS was pretty good. DS, but 3D. 3DS was pretty good. Too Switch, Too Furious, says NilPointer. Yeah, we could just let chat help us out here. Switch Pro would be interesting. Switch Advance. I'd be down for Switch Advance.

Starting point is 01:29:00 I would also be down with Switch Advance. It's a Switch, but it's with more Switch than ever before. I'd be into down with Switch Advance. It's a Switch, but it's with more Switch than ever before. I'd be into that. Switch Up. I mean, you know, with the whole, like, you know, Switch Up. I'm pretty sure I've seen people say Switch Up before. Switch to Electric Boogaloo. I mean, these are a really good Switch.

Starting point is 01:29:18 I mean, okay. I think float plane chat is going lose their lose their chatting privileges pretty quickly who do you think you are twitch chat some people have been saying super switch uber switch switch hitter switch hd i mean no no oh well yeah no nobody would use hd branding not anymore yeah hd branding is like out of 15 years ago yeah yeah and people are saying switch 4k there's i don't i don't think this is gonna be it could be a 4k console if i doubt it well hold on if nintendo as rumored has backwards compatibility with switch games i see no reason why an ampere based gpu with

Starting point is 01:30:08 upscaling couldn't run something like tears of the kingdom at 4k but with the added expense of a 4k screen no it won't have a 4k screen oh but it'll be able to do 4k to an external screen and there is absolutely no reason it shouldn't support hdmi that'd be fair enough yeah exactly so i thought you meant on device 4k no i don't think that makes any absolutely no way they would do that i think it's going to be 1080p on device yeah even that maybe not switch on oh i hope not that'd be awful switch up i'm okay with what was the other one that we both liked switch advance switch advances there's no way they'll do that nintendo almost to a fault doesn't look back yeah like they rarely uh like there's there like there is no way they'd be like

Starting point is 01:31:00 super switch one thing that's interesting to me is it's almost certainly going to look almost exactly the same as the switch. It'd be slightly bigger, but it's probably gonna be more or less the same thing. If it's more or less the same size, but it has an eight inch screen in it, that thing's going to be sick. I've heard,

Starting point is 01:31:17 I've heard rumor that the, the, the controller is going to be magnetic. That'd be kind of cool. It's interesting. But this is interesting to me because the jump from the gamecube to the wii u was like or sorry the wii was super interesting and then the wii to the wii u was more of an interesting jump than people really realized with the like whole fifth

Starting point is 01:31:37 controller and controller with the screen all that kind of stuff and then the wii u to the switch was like crazy yeah and then if this is just like that thing again, but with a bigger screen. That's like the first time they've... Will people be really disappointed? Really done that. Remember too though, hold on, because the Switch took a unique approach

Starting point is 01:31:56 to motion controls that maybe the kinds of games that you play don't take advantage of, but there's no way that you could have done... What were those cardboard things called where you'd like put the motion controllers on and stuff? Like there's no way that you could have done what were those cardboard things called where you'd like put the motion controllers on and stuff like there's no way that they would have been able to build a gaming experience like that other than me did anyone care about that i mean i think they sold some okay um gold ball says they should just get rid of the switch name altogether it is awful to search anything about the switch on the internet and that is a really good point. The searchability of names

Starting point is 01:32:26 is a big problem in insert current year. I need to run. I'll be right back. Okay. I just looked up the video I did on the Nintendo Labo. And this was a lot more recent than I thought. It just says five years ago.

Starting point is 01:32:43 But YouTube's weird with dates sometimes. Yeah, this was 2018. Luke, I just got a message in. Hey, DLL, why does Nintendo consistently keep bringing consoles out that are almost outdated or many gens behind the current gen? They haven't been hardware pushers in a really long time. When is the last console they released that was actually like hardware competitive it's never really been about hardware for them has it no i think it was a very long time ago uh 64 yeah

Starting point is 01:33:12 game was gamecube hardware competitive i don't think so i think that was pretty underpowered honestly i thought it was i don't really remember but i thought it was I thought it was. Yeah, I'm not sure. GameCube was pretty strong. What directly competed against GameCube? Wasn't it Xbox original? I think it was Xbox and PS2, if I remember correctly.

Starting point is 01:33:36 GameCube released... PS1? Yeah, it was PS2 and Xbox. 2001. Xbox original release date. 2001. So they're both the same time Xbox versus Do you think it'll do the same dock

Starting point is 01:33:59 thing? Maybe they'll go to like People are saying the game key was impressive because of how small it was Is that cool? That's not the point i'm trying to make um but it's at the very least from the wii forward it's not it has not been about performance and i know that's only a few console generations but uh it's been a long time the wii release date was 2006. Seriously? There might be people watching this right now that weren't alive. That's depressing. At risk of TMI, I got my diagnosis back.

Starting point is 01:34:34 It's just a UTI, but I definitely have to go pee very suddenly sometimes. That's okay. On my antibiotics, and I'm feeling a fair bit better. At least you're good to go. Yeah, there was blood involved. Never a good sign. Yeah, this was like last week right before when show started so i was a little stressed during the show this is like kind of the best sign of all the bad signs oh yeah no i mean the second you start searching for stuff like that it's like yeah you're gonna die you're done yeah oh geez

Starting point is 01:35:01 yeah so that's cool uh but yeah i don't think they care about performance i think for them it's all it's been all about experience ever since especially the wii um and even before then n64 they cared about performance yeah that's what what we were trying to debate on was did they what was the argument on gamecube how was the gamecube performance wise versus ps2 and original xbox um i thought it was pretty solid i the the looking up that i did was that it was fairly well competing yeah and gained credit because of how small it was yeah which is cool too bad the discs were too small to put big games on it yeah so maybe they should have made it bigger and put a proper size disc reader in it and then after the gamecube they just like actually stopped caring at all about performance and it was much more about experience and just the games that were on the

Starting point is 01:35:54 system and and margins walled gardening and margins on the hardware yeah well while a lot of other consoles were losing money per i wonder if what they realized was that they were selling so many copies of games that looked like for their for their mobile consoles so like realistically is anyone is anyone caring about this i think also a lot of a lot of like especially first party nintendo games the art style doesn't demand crazy performance um and a lot of times the ones that struggle in performance it's like yeah they probably could have done better so I don't know does your PC have a handle

Starting point is 01:36:32 dude my brother had this if you don't know what case this is let me see if I can find it why don't you look for that while I do our sponsor spots oh I already found it alrighty then oh you have a video on it nice let's go i think my favorite thing about my laptop is it has the one your brother has is probably this one it might actually be i'm not

Starting point is 01:36:58 sure i don't remember how he got this is old enough this is old enough that i probably just wanted to get this thing out of our way and what like i'm gonna flip it on craigslist like this uh this case would have taken up so much space it would have been more work to sell on craigslist than it's probably worth um because like the price is so high but people don't um because like the price is so high but people don't cases are one of the fastest depreciating computer components you can buy like a used case is basically worth half of what it was worth new it was either this one or he like won it i don't think he bought one of these but at the top there this case was enormous and it weighed a ton especially once you filled it with stuff especially once you filled it with water cooling absolute clown case and the top here has these metal bars they're actually metal

Starting point is 01:37:48 so he had this case and he got a welder friend to weld a crossbar onto those metal bars so that he could just pick it up with one hand because he's just this unit that could do that and he'd bring it to lands this is just enormous computer they'll just dwarf everything so good i don't know how we got onto the topic of uh cases but we did so basically it's a giant game cube is that the point you were trying to make oh right because people said you don't have handles on your computers and i was like well sometimes we weld them on but did people say we don't have a sponsor because they were wrong the show is brought to you today by ag1 if you're already busy juggling your everyday tasks you definitely don't have time

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Starting point is 01:39:56 pretty over twitter i think at this point nice based uh okay hold on i'll finish this and then i'll and then i'll talk about what it is because dan's apparently just not going to cut back to us he's just going to like leave it on this forever the show is also brought to you by ridge you might still be sickle but your phone may have found that special someone ridge just released their new magsafe wallet that's compatible with your phone it says linus quickly shows how it works i assume that this is the MagSafe wallet. Oh, it's there. I was like, wow, it's light. Okay.

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Starting point is 01:43:14 the savage jerky dan i want to eat the savage jerky yeah then do that oh oh is it just like a product placement yeah and then if you eat it i do this oh okay oh sick okay well i was waiting man he brought what did you get how dare you how dare you take my bacon jerky this one yeah i'm not the whole thing no no no go for it um i'm trying out the smokehouse bacon jerk well what you don't want to you only want bacon no i just i just want i just want one you just want what you're just gonna have one piece i want to open the whole pack oh that's right luke's watching his uh watching his intake thanks man that's fine i'll eat enough jerky for both? I don't want to open the whole pack. Oh, that's right. Luke's watching his intake. Thanks, man.

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Starting point is 01:44:13 Dead Pixel shirt is hilarious. Luke, what was your biggest hurdle into getting into fitness? Mine was being an overweight smoker. Have since quit all stimulants. Hashtag represent Hartford Whalers. Nice. Oh, hey, there we go. Hartford Whalers.

Starting point is 01:44:32 We have a special thing here because Sean from the IT team, that's where he got his old screen name from. Whaler is because of Hartford Whalers, because of whatever, whatever. Anyways. I thought it was because he murdered whales. Nope. I'm kidding. Fortunately, whales nope i'm kidding fortunately no i'm kidding there's an old problem is old canadian hockey team called the hartford whalers yeah that's the context for you not all of them are necessarily

Starting point is 01:44:53 gonna get the joke which is why i clarified um uh what sorry what was it what was the hardest part yeah what was your biggest hurdle getting into fitness my biggest hurdle uh by fitness i'm going to take that as like the more recent going to the gym stuff because i wouldn't call the more recent stuff me getting into fitness because when i was younger i was significantly more fit because i played like a billion different sports all at the same time and i was extremely fit but these days my biggest hurdle was that i was broken in a lot of ways largely from all the sports that i used to play when I was younger. So I had rotator cuff problems. You shouldn't have done that.

Starting point is 01:45:27 He's just a boy. I was on a cane for a few weeks, years back, because I screwed my knee up so bad. So that's a recurring, still existent problem that I have. And I have lower back issues and all this other type of stuff. So I had to, and I had gained a ton of weight over COVID. So those issues were worse because of the weight gain so i had to drop weight and figure out how to deal with those issues which wasn't the most motivating thing in the world at first but once

Starting point is 01:45:56 you start seeing progress in the weight loss and you start seeing progress in the end the biggest thing for me was progress in the injuries because i had it for a while like i'm gonna do this right now i'm gonna reach back and grab linus's chair and move him around a little bit if i did that a year ago i would have shoulder pain for three days i mean you want to you know you want to grab something because my my rotator cuff uh cuff was so screwed up But as I learned how to do exercises that would help strengthen the rotator cuff without hurting it, which would then make it less prone to injury, which would then make it so that I could reach behind myself and do whatever and not hurt myself. I can do this now at all, which is huge.

Starting point is 01:46:43 Hartford's in Connecticut? I had no idea. They moved when I was still a kid and I didn't know geography that much. I thought the Hartford Whalers were a Canadian team. I have no idea. I have no clue at all. Yeah, they moved in 1997 when I was 11. So I did not know geography yet.

Starting point is 01:47:01 That is hilarious. Today I learned anyway. Sorry. No, that's fine. But yeah, I started noticing like, hey, I'm not in pain as much anymore. That was a huge thing for me by working out more often. When I woke up, my back wouldn't hurt anymore because I'd strengthened my back. Uh, now I wouldn't sleep on my shoulder funny and hurt it or reach behind myself and grab like a piece of paper and then injure myself. Those I'm more resilient that way. way i'm i'm not hurt all the

Starting point is 01:47:25 time i'm not as tired anymore i just started feeling better and less pain all the time and then now it's just i don't want to stop because those things are very good so i don't know those were the hurdles but those are also the reasons to do it so good luck i believe in you sorry i was reminded that the canucks are playing right now oilers yeah yeah how are we doing uh one one end of the first i'm suddenly more invested in this than normal because you just like the comeback kids no a buddy of mine is like a super fan of the oilers so i just want him to lose why do you why do you hate your buddies we won the first game and i was like yes oh yeah in an embarrassing fashion we don't have to we don't have to win the whole thing we don't have to win the cup we just gotta beat the world elijah says i can't wait for the canucks to lose

Starting point is 01:48:14 in the finals and we have riots again three times worried about the vancouver canucks have never won a championship three times they have made it to the finals not have made it to the finals, not just made it to the finals. They have made it to game seven, which is, which is the final game of a best of seven series. They have made it to game seven of the finals three times. They have managed to choke in game seven of the finals, but never,

Starting point is 01:48:41 never a championship. So I'm a, yeah, I'm excited for it too, Elijah. It's going to be exciting. It'll be a lot of fun. During a panel on AI in the legal field, it was stated that using AI may soon be required for attorneys for competency. Do you see professions soon requiring AI use rather than doing things manually?

Starting point is 01:49:08 Well, it's not a matter of that. I think anyone is going to like, I don't think a client is going to come to your law firm and say, I need you to use AI or I am not going to work with you. Like, I don't think it's going to be like that. I think it's going to be more along the lines of if you want to stay competitive, then you are going to have to take advantage of the efficiencies that machine learning, in its various forms, to be clear, I'm not necessarily saying AI in the way that I think we're thinking about it right now

Starting point is 01:49:40 and that a lot of the stigma is around right now where you basically just punch in a prompt and then it just like shits out a response. There's lots and lots of different ways that you can use machine learning. So one way would be if you're looking for precedent, which is incredibly important when it comes to advising your clients

Starting point is 01:50:02 on their best possible defense. If you are not searching using an AI, a machine learning assisted model, the entire just astronomically huge library of precedent setting case law, if you aren't doing that, you're not you aren't doing that you're not going to be competitive you're not going to win your cases no human could possibly hope to have read and internalized everything that they would need for every different situation lawyers lose cases all the time they literally lose as many cases as they win think about it right for every win somebody has to lose so if you're not using the most state-of-the-art tools your win rate is going to go down yeah compared to people who are using the most state-of-the-art tools unless they're poorly

Starting point is 01:50:57 slash improperly using it which will happen but which will happen i suspect more often than not especially in competitive industries it will be used properly. But I think the example that I'm using, where you're using it to look for legal precedent, I'd say that's a pretty likely use case where it would be very, very useful and less prone to hallucinations. And it would be better than just a search like a like

Starting point is 01:51:26 a term search if you have a large language model that has been trained on an enormous data set and you go okay tell me about any situation where a crime of passion was involved but uh there were these extenuating extenuating circumstances right like that's not something that a typical search is necessarily going to be able to handle without spitting you out an enormous number of results that you would have to you have to read through all of them right um and i mean i would say i'm not going to name any names but with all the lawyers that we've worked with over the years yeah some of them probably probably should have just used ai for some of the work i have ran into examples where way after the fact i realized where they lifted the copy that they sent us from

Starting point is 01:52:11 because i noticed certain verbiage and i was like i actually literally recognize this and then i go to the the wherever that legal copy is and see the line. And I'm like, there's no way. There's actually no way this has to be lifted from here. And then I'll look at like the formatting of the document and everything. And I'm like, yeah, they just clearly like make it so it doesn't look like you copied my work. And they just copied it. It's like, well, what did I pay you for? I could have done this.

Starting point is 01:52:40 Like, especially when you're like, oh, well well at least it's like signed off by a lawyer so if something goes wrong we can go to them no oh yeah man it's all garbage it's funny how you know lawyers you know being lawyers um are pretty they're all pretty knowledgeable when it comes to covering their own asses um and making sure that i mean i'm just giving advice i'm just i'm just giving advice i mean you could do whatever you want to do it i mean if this goes wrong well what is the point of you then what is your point why do you actually exist like if you're if you're not if there's no if there's nothing bad happens if you get, if you're not, if there's no, if there's nothing bad happens, if you get it wrong, what exactly is your incentive to use you? Yeah. I am not a huge fan. No. I think that good lawyers, absolutely. Like any good professional, um, are important deeply, but there seem to be a lot of less there's a lot of junk less good lawyers that are that are more motivated by just creating litigation so that they can bill hours um

Starting point is 01:53:56 i'm trying to get a water block for my 6900 XT. Really, Dan? Why didn't you just ask? Yeah, I bet we could have helped you out with that. I mean, we probably got some EK stuff we can't use. Don't say their name. I bought one recently and crossed out all the EK stuff and wrote Alpha Cool. Yeah, because that's how that works. I did it over the plastic. You are the alpha now sigma cool

Starting point is 01:54:26 oh my goodness so poor fraser here is trying to find a compatible one uh is compatibility something that we should be seeing on the lab's website website i mean yeah but only to a degree right because realistically for something like a water block we're not going to test that we're not going to be able to test and there's going to be a lot of things that we'll actually sort of work on especially with a very minor amount of modification or addition if you like add little heat sinks to cover the spots that it's not covering and whatnot which is something that people have been doing in water cooling for ever um like we yeah what are we supposed to say if you add a few heat sink pads this is fine and back to the question of liability right like do i want to be in a situation where i say it worked and then the manufacturer of the gpu does a silent revision that we don't know about and it doesn't work and like like well

Starting point is 01:55:23 ltd labs told me it would work and it's kind of sitting here going, like, why am I even opening myself up to this? I think that's something where we're not really gonna get into it. Like we might have, we, you know, if we were to ever have like a compatibility checker of some kind,

Starting point is 01:55:40 I think we would probably wanna find a way to grab data off of the manufacturer website. But i don't think that's the kind of thing that we would go through and want to validate like we're not gonna we're not gonna take a motherboard and put every cpu on the cpu support list in it and then maybe other cpus just to see if they work like it's not so the like literal three people that would care yeah it's not within the scope of of what labs would be would be able to test i don't think yeah they could they just shouldn't how the problems sorry no i'll go for it it's one of the problems with having a thing like that is like you could you could the the lab could test like

Starting point is 01:56:21 practically anything it's like do we do we is that a good use of their time they have so many other really high value things to do and they are currently doing that like adding certain things like that it's like i don't know sorry keep going no that's okay we'll get one more in here i think howdy lld i'm back in graduate school after 20 years in a job where priorities were obvious. How do you prioritize when the tasks are numerous and deadlines are nebulous? I can't. I failed in school.

Starting point is 01:56:59 So you're asking, you said you dropped out, right? Well, it's a little. You were failing and you just made the conclusion early yeah i mean it was kind of a you can't fire me i quit um i was on academic probation already ah and if i hadn't fixed up my grades i would have been kicked out the next semester but i decided that wasn't going to happen why am i paying anymore for this i'll see you later true i kind of just stopped going to class i never actually formally withdrew which probably looks bad if i ever want to go back probably yeah but that would be weird and useless uh so you're talking to him who has that story and then me who dropped out um yeah i don't know task priority is this specifically for school

Starting point is 01:57:48 we're talking no he didn't he say he just got a job yeah no no no wasn't a job for 20 years and now is in school i was in school with no one to basically go okay here's what you're working on right now do this thing if the way i used to do it was if it's within a certain class um i mean just study everything hard but then if you're if you're like if you if you know rationally looking at the work in front of you that you don't have enough time to study everything there's a test coming up if it's when one within one specific class i wouldn't pick the thing that you know the least to try to study i would make sure that you can secure a passing grade so like make sure you're confident in at least a passing grade worth of material and then work from there so that you know you can pass the class and keep moving forward so make sure you have a solid base before you go in and then when you get to the actual test

Starting point is 01:58:43 find the questions that you know you can confidently answer and blow through all of those, like skipping through parts of the test. Make sure that you like secure your solid grade that you know you can get and then go back through and try to refine from there. That's what I did. I have no idea.

Starting point is 01:58:58 I wouldn't necessarily listen to me. That's just what I did. Tomo Komo says, I was on academic probation at one point. This is in float plane chat. Now I am a college professor and a scientist. I work on gravitational wave physics. Sick.

Starting point is 01:59:12 And I'm smart enough to subscribe to float plane. I added that last bit, but, but, but, but they are subscribed, but they are subscribed to float plane. Um,

Starting point is 01:59:19 that's good. I don't think my path would go similarly i don't think i will ever be working on gravitational wave physics i think luke's seen me try to do math you can do good mental math oh yeah i can do simple math mental math you're good i'm good at approximate yeah don't ask me to do anything exact that's almost all you need though you know when i learned that my first year of university summer when i started oh yeah estimating painting jobs yeah i i just like wasn't good at mental math and a good skill to have and my regional manager was like well get good because it's realistically the only way that you're going to be able to do this so how'd you get good just practice well i

Starting point is 02:00:08 had no choice because if i wanted to make money then i had to get good and i needed to make money because i had a bunch of um i had a bunch of bills to pay for school so you got good by sheer will i i guess fun enough i mean i think in modern day, it was 10% luck. 20% skill. Sorry. I think in modern day, if you have good estimation skills, good mental math skills, the rest of it can be 15% concentrated power of will supplemented through like 5% pleasure phone calculators.

Starting point is 02:00:41 And if it's complicated, 50% pain, you can use Wolfram alpha and 100% reason to Phone calculators. And if it's complicated enough, 50% pain. You can use Wolfram Alpha. And 100% reason to remember the name. That was all accurate, wasn't it? You remembered every lyric. Why wouldn't I? Doesn't everybody know that? Amazing. No, no, off the top of my head.

Starting point is 02:00:57 I was able to recognize that it was correct, but I wouldn't be able to, even now, I don't think I could say it all purposely. Oh, man. Is that a song, LMAO? Elijah causes me pain i know often i know he's painful uh were we doing merch messages no we're doing topics oh okay yeah we're doing topics what topic are we doing i don't know who cares uh stack overflow users rebel against the site's open ai deal this is hilarious this week Overflow announced they would be adding an open AI integration,

Starting point is 02:01:26 feeding past user contributions to ChatGPT, as well as using that information to train AI without consulting their user base. Many users responded by deleting or adding protest messages to their past posts. Stack Overflow staff have reportedly responded by suspending those users en masse then reverting those protest posts to their previous state oh dang wow stack overflow

Starting point is 02:01:55 seemed to have a negative attitude toward generative ai previously banning answers written by chat gpt just last year they probably still have that stance because we know the whole thing where when ai feeds off of its own data it gets worse so they don't they don't want generative ai answers on their site they just want to sell their site to ai that that makes complete sense to me you should also just consider stopping using it i'm sure there's alternatives but dang that sucks what are the alternatives no no really you guys know stack overflow has been like the thing for a super long time but this is how this is how you spark competition you know so i'm sure somebody will figure it out man uh harroy says nothing um

Starting point is 02:02:39 i'm sure someone will figure it out yeah reddit but that sucks too and they're definitely doing the same thing the exact same thing bruh i wonder what you do because because we know on-site ads are making effectively nothing these days regarding like money wise yep and this type of crowd is just gonna be blocking them anyways we've got a really interesting video coming on de-google-ifying your life uh emily was working on it and it's pretty cool but it's surprising how many of the alternatives are gonna cost you a monthly subscription yep like like there's search engines that you can use that don't track your stuff and they just cost money but are super cool and you can like determine your own page rank and stuff and like set your own priorities and have no ads in them. I've been thinking about going to a paid search engine.

Starting point is 02:03:30 You should watch the video. Yeah, I will. Yeah, Emily put a lot of work into researching it. This is actually pretty cool. I'm excited. We covered browser. We covered search. Browser too.

Starting point is 02:03:38 Yeah. We talked about DNS. We talked about, oh man, what we're trying to think of, what all of the de-Google-ified. We talked about email. So we- Because you can rage about being the product all you want. But if you're getting the thing for free, there's going to be some value harvested somewhere. Yeah, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Starting point is 02:03:58 And one problem- That was the trade-off. One problem is that you don't completely avoid it by paying for things. That's one of the big steps why i haven't done this yet is like okay sure i'm paying for this service and you're claiming these things but what happens from you changing that what happens this company from being sold to somebody else and now they own it like what if google buys this random browser company and now they have all their data these are hopefully things that i can get some amount of information from

Starting point is 02:04:25 the video so we'll see um but like yeah there's there's it's it's interesting but it does get kind of expensive to replace all the free things with things that cost money and these are ongoing services so it's almost certainly going to be monthly subscriptions yep oh 100 one time 100 so and like in theory you know well you could selfhost. And we talk a little bit about a Google Photos alternative that you can self-host, which is super cool. Even that has costs, though. But there's a lot of things that even if they don't have a cost, don't make sense to self-host. Like email is one that we brought up as something that you can. Look at the look on his face, the physical pain.

Starting point is 02:05:04 As someone who runs services like please the amount of times and i i've tweeted about this a bunch of times back when it was actually twitter but the amount of times that i have developer applications especially when it comes to infrastructure stuff and they apply and they use a custom email and i go to respond to give people interviews and the custom emails just get tossed because deliverability issues whatever else it happens way more than you would think and from people that should know what they're doing yes the amount of times that people will include a personal this one sucks because i recommend that people do it seriously though check if it works before you send in your resume please the amount of people that include a personal site on their resume that doesn't work

Starting point is 02:05:50 like bro or like the domain expired i've ran into that like it would be better for you to not include it on your resume if the domain has expired than to include it and have someone click a dead link on your resume. It just looks like you didn't care. But people have a non-insignificant amount, at least over, like we're talking double, maybe triple digits of people,

Starting point is 02:06:15 have lost interviews here because their custom domain email server thing didn't work. Or they typed their email wrong. Brutal. Intel rebukes motherboard makers over fixes for Intel's unstable CPUs. We've also got some Arrow Lake leaks and AMD stealing CPU market share. I just didn't say steal. They earned it. But anyway, that's my headline here.

Starting point is 02:06:40 After Intel didn't publicly take action concerning recent widespread reports of 14th-gen processors causing game crashes and blue screens of death, on around April 20th, ASUS released a BIOS update with an Intel Baseline profile which turned down various performance-boosting settings. week, Intel spoke up to tell users not to use such profiles from motherboard makers. Instead, Intel wants you to use the Intel default settings profile instead, as it involves a combination of thermal and power delivery features with a selection of possible power delivery profiles based on the specific motherboard's capabilities. Broadly, the motherboard makers' profiles did seem to help with the stability issues but it came at a performance cost intel's guidance seems to be geared towards allowing users to regain some of that lost performance intel is now demanding that by may 31st motherboard makers release bios updates with intel's default settings profile as the default i can't believe this has taken this long to come to a head but

Starting point is 02:07:46 aren't they also saying that doesn't fix it because the the performance uh what is it multi-core enhancement uh default thing controversy or like conflict between intel and motherboard manufacturers has been going back for like the better part of a decade at this point and it was it was bound to happen at some point that some kind of performance boosting profile of some sort was going to cause instability because it all it has always been overclocking to run anything but intel's default behavior for the cpu and i just i can't believe that it took this long it took it took intel ending up with egg on their face over the instability of the not intel default profile for them to finally say look you actually can't do this anymore and i'm willing

Starting point is 02:08:42 to bet that this lasts one generation and then immediately, in order for motherboard manufacturers to try to differentiate their product from each other, they're going to go back to putting whatever the most aggressive profile they can probably get away with on the majority of CPUs is,

Starting point is 02:08:57 and we're going to be back to this whole song and dance until this happens again. Like there's just absolutely no way that it's not going to just keep happening. Oh yeah. And to be clear, I don't even really, I don't even really blame the motherboard manufacturers here.

Starting point is 02:09:15 Obviously they're going to, they're going to push the limits of whatever Intel will allow them to do. And they're going to try and differentiate their product. I lean toward blaming Intel. That's the game they play. Yeah. If they want to be competitive, they have to do that. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:09:27 They're not setting the rules. I mean, look, like if, if, man, if Intel wanted motherboard manufacturers to differentiate their products, they didn't have to consolidate every single function onto the CPU and onto the chipset. They might've not tried to take all the margin for themselves in the motherboard. I mean was an option to be clear there were performance

Starting point is 02:09:48 advantages to some of those moves like moving the integrated memory controller onto the cpu to simplify the motherboard and make it more performant but it's just it's been a it's been a trend from intel for a very long time to squeeze motherboard manufacturers and it's become harder and harder for them to differentiate and so they're gonna do what they gotta do they gotta do what they gotta do and if intel doesn't like it well then they're gonna have to lay down the law and if they haven't laid down the law then this is gonna happen this is the around and find out it's that simple um one can only hope that intel's upcoming arrow lake desktop cpus won't suffer the same issues on top of having no hyper threading and allegedly terrible names uh this is this is pretty funny

Starting point is 02:10:31 yeah here we go um next gen desktop cpus have reportedly leaked arrow lake core ultra 200 series uh same core counts as raptor lake refresh but fewer threads okay hold on where's my where's my branding here we go uh-huh so um sure i don't know why is it cute why not just i mean why ultra why not just an can we just have i don't know like a nine can we just have, I don't know, like a nine? Can we just have some continuity here? Why do we go from nine to eight? From zero, zero to five? 14 to two, I understand, because this is the generation.

Starting point is 02:11:17 Yeah, sure. The processor generation. But why did we move everything down one or maybe two? So a 600 class product becomes a four class product or I, I can't even begin to follow along with this. Uh, AMD had a new naming scheme,

Starting point is 02:11:38 allegedly new naming scheme, allegedly maybe leak on a Seuss's site that looked just as bad as intel's if not worse because they shoehorned ai into all the processor names so it was like ryzen 9 ai and then they switched to a uh they switched to a three letter or a three digit numbering scheme as well and it just it was utterly un just under indecipherable i i couldn't even. That has not been confirmed to be real. We should do product naming consultation. I'd be happy to. They wouldn't want...

Starting point is 02:12:10 No, they wouldn't want our advice, though. You'd just call it CPU. We'd be... No, I wouldn't. We'd be... That would be also stupid. Yes. We'd be advising them on how to make it very...

Starting point is 02:12:23 This is CPU 1. We also sell CPU 2 and 3. Sorry, keep going. Stumpy CPU. Okay, our naming is bad, too, for very different reasons. Maybe don't do naming consultations. I think we could do better than them. I think anybody could, yeah.

Starting point is 02:12:40 In fairness to me, I wasn't involved in a lot of those names. We're always just way too literal. We are pretty literal. Backpack. I mean always just way too literal. We are pretty literal. Backpack. I mean, we're not wrong. It's a backpack. Screwdriver. It is a screwdriver.

Starting point is 02:12:53 It doesn't even call itself Ratchet and Screwdriver. Just Screwdriver. It's a screwdriver. It's... You know what you're getting. You do. Yeah. It's better.

Starting point is 02:13:04 Yeah. I just don't know how you're getting. You do. Yeah. It's better. Yeah. Sorry. I just don't know how much it leans on marketing. I mean, look, we've had some more fun stuff lately. Okay. There's the FaZe zip-up hoodie. FaZe. I like FaZe.

Starting point is 02:13:15 Okay. Okay. That's pretty literal. Zip-up pocket. Okay. We've got- 100% cotton t-shirt. Okay.

Starting point is 02:13:22 The Steve turtleneck. Okay. This is actually a pretty solid mover that's fairly marketing yeah good the steve okay marino t-shirt okay stop stop looking at those names lined um fan okay wag hoodie is pretty good i named that one's good that is good i named that one the uncle linus hoodie okay but that was that was from a video i don't know if that's fair it was literally actually a joke um well this is not going to be better

Starting point is 02:13:49 lounge pants are all right i added pro to this i think no no i added premium to this one that that was my contribution to the name of that okay these are so are the premium sports joggers better than the track joggers because the track joggers aren't premium the dropout has a really cool name doesn't sell at all but people love it i wish people the dropout sweater is like one of the comfiest sweaters i think i've ever had and people don't know that yeah because they can't try it i know retail retail is a is a heck of a thing like buying clothes at retail i get it yeah it's tough to buy them online because you're i feel the same way you're buying it blindly i get it i just i wish people had the opportunity to try it because it's very much like

Starting point is 02:14:36 a comfy like nice a little bit more hefty sweater it It's nice. It's good. I enjoy it. And I don't like pullovers, but I like that sweater. AMD has hit a record high in x86 desktop and server market share, which is good because apparently their GPU gaming business and custom on cooking business is not going so good. But this man man this looks incredible in servers their revenue share is 33 and that's on a unit share of only 23.6

Starting point is 02:15:15 so that means that they are killing intel at the high end for server like crushing them high end for server like crushing them that's crazy not even close right yeah i what i where is where is this topic oh i'm sorry i'm just uh oh you're just looking at stuff yeah i'm looking at this right here look at it go wow number go brr yeah things a little less hot on the desktop side i feel like how them just oh but this is server market share so it's not just amd and intel yeah no this is x86 oh i see so i love how them killing it is still being a third of the market well yeah but i mean you gotta compared to some historical record that is crazy and you gotta remember too like only part of the decision of which cpu to procure is which one is better a huge part of it is long-term contracts a huge

Starting point is 02:16:15 huge part of it is production capacity like as an as an end user okay you would look at the marketing for someone like a a mouse pad factory in china which they have, you would look at the marketing for someone like a mouse pad factory in China, which they have marketing. You'd look at the marketing and go, well, that's stupid because it'll be full of things like what their production capacity is on a monthly basis. And you're sitting there going, yeah, but are they good? Do you make anything good? are they good dude do you make anything good depending on the buyer that may not be their top priority because they just need mouse pads and if and the factory that they're working with

Starting point is 02:16:53 may simply not have enough capacity of mouse pads and so at a certain point like amd can only buy so much of tsmc's finite capacity and at a certain point supply and demand if everyone tries to buy it it will drive up the price to the point where oh well hey intel's products not looking that bad anymore intel meanwhile has their own production capacity so they effectively get to sell every chip that amd can't make and it will be that way for the foreseeable future that is until amd can get more production capacity from intel's foundry business that'll be an interesting we'll see how that goes ever since i talked about how i i like intel's long-term plan their stock has dropped considerably i still like their long-term plan but i made it very clear at that time.

Starting point is 02:17:46 None of this is investment advice. I made it very clear at that time that it was a long-term play that I liked. Long-term play. Fox in a Box says, oh yeah, so forget contracts and availability. What about just comfort? People buy based on brands all the time.

Starting point is 02:18:03 That was an LMG clip that went up actually shortly before the wan show today from last week where i talked about not being fans but man people people buy what they're comfortable with and your fans at different levels and fox in a box says at my company we buy more intel servers because we have intel servers and we don't have issues so we will buy more of them which honestly in a lot of situations is a mostly good enough reason when it comes to technology and how fast moving it is maybe less so but when you're dealing with like trying to convince people that are doing purchasing decisions for a huge range of things and that that just happens to be one part of it and i don't know anyways should we talk about uh helldivers and sony

Starting point is 02:18:48 yeah sure this is wild so this is not a a fleshed out topic that we have so this is going to be a little bit erratic but uh because i think it happened like today this is this might have been yesterday hot news yeah i don't i don't know exactly pretty fresh though but it's it's quite fresh i know it was friday somewhere but it might have been somewhere else in the world um but sony so let's rewind to last week sony forced playstation network login onto helldivers 2 now pc gamers didn't like that pc gamers are pretty kind of used to needing other launchers or needing other logins even the beloved baldur's gate 3 uses its own launcher they have a really cool reason even cd project red has their own like

Starting point is 02:19:32 account it's optional you can just continue to play rockstar ubisoft yeah everyone and their dog has tons of their own nonsense beloved developer battle state games has their own launcher and they're not even on steam i probably could have gotten them on a spit take if only he was drinking something yeah yeah the the larian one most people embrace it a little bit more heavily because it syncs your saves between platforms which is like actually kind of six if you had a save on a console you could sync it to a pc anyways um so some people were somewhat surprised at the degree or the amount of backlash that they received for forcing this login one major

Starting point is 02:20:12 component was because they forced the login after people had already purchased the game this is also not the first time that has happened yeah but the really big kicker was that by forcing PSN, they were suddenly not allowing people in certain regions of the world to play this game that they had bought and been playing for a significant period of time. And that's because the PlayStation Network was simply not available in that region. So they were allowed to buy the game,

Starting point is 02:20:41 but they weren't allowed to create an account that is a prerequisite to play the game but they weren't allowed to create an account that is a prerequisite to play the game and what's worse fraudulently declaring that you live in a different country other than where you live by use of a vpn or something can get your psn network banned and then we're back to square one and you can't play the game. Yeah. So gamers raised hell. It was great. This doesn't happen that often. And it,

Starting point is 02:21:09 well, okay. It happens literally all the time, but it's not often that they actually get something done. Yeah. I think part of it, and I've been meaning to talk to you about this, but this is my theory.

Starting point is 02:21:19 I think the biggest part of it was that the boycott was forced. Yeah. By the controversy itself yeah and i think and i've talked about this a fair bit with the recent battle state games controversy we've talked about this a fair bit recently where gamers are spineless and they will raise hell about something and then immediately cave and start playing the game and buying microtransactions again oh i have news about and these companies never learn anything but in this case because the source of the controversy inherently forced angry gamers to stop playing the game it affected player numbers in a way that is very large and very measurable because this is like the hottest game in the world right now to the point where they went oh no we can't do this people are not playing the game and what we learned is probably nothing

Starting point is 02:22:21 but what we should have learned is that that's how effective a boycott can be an actual one yeah an actual one where gamers actually stop playing the game and and rage hard so there's more to it some regions also require you to have a ps4 ps5 to even have a playstation network account so some regions couldn't do it some regions had to have specific hardware etc it was a nightmare um there was a huge rage the the arrowhead the actual developer behind the game like more or less agreed with the community and was like this is dumb um and was was kind of fighting against it as well so it was it was a very unified force uh massive massive uh review what do you call it Review bombing on Steam, tanking the rating of the game very significantly.

Starting point is 02:23:07 This was a beloved game a month ago and is now being heavily hated on. So this was done like on last Friday, I think, right before the weekend. I think it's Monday or Tuesday comes around and Sony pulls it. Okay, you don't need a PSN account anymore. Come today, and I got confirmation by people in chat that this was today uh you still don't need a playstation network account because i guess they learned that much but i think they didn't really get the point the real point the point that people were really mad about because all those zones where you can't get psn now can't buy the

Starting point is 02:23:48 game a lot of people thought those zones couldn't play that's not true if you already own it you can play as far as my understanding goes please feel free to correct me but i'm pretty sure you can play in those zones but now i think it's 180 uh how is it defined let me find it here really quick three more countries banned it's like 180 areas you can't play the game in anymore or you can't buy buy the game anymore they apparently still can't play so this seems to be very much a developing situation yeah it happened today things are changing actively 180 regions they're calling it uh so it started at 177 and then they added estonia lithuania and latvia to that list which brought it to 180 you can see this changing live because the steam db has a history where you can see changes so people are tracking the changes live which is wild

Starting point is 02:24:46 yeah it's 180 of the territories that steam recognizes what is the logic here so that was my question why would you block people from buying the game in 180 regions what is the point what is what is sony's you know potential because the only thing i could think of is Sony's, you know, potential? Because the only thing I could think of is there's some potential legal liability for operating. You know when you buy a piece of software and the EULA is like, yeah, you have to agree not to use this for acts of terrorism. Like, is there some kind of weird potential legal liability from the game being sold in in these regions but then you know

Starting point is 02:25:27 if that's the case then why is it a problem to you know to buy dave the diver in congo you know like i like what what what exactly is the logic here and does it have to do with that sony is running their own congo that's one of the places where they can't buy it is is is it something to do with the fact that sony is running psn and and so you know if they don't have all the legalities sorted out for operating in that region then then they can't but then if that's the case why not just waive the requirement i mean don't don't don't you want our money you know like from on behalf of gamers everywhere do you not want our money? You know, like on behalf of gamers everywhere. Do you not want our money? Yeah, some people are saying in full play time,

Starting point is 02:26:10 this kind of makes sense that they're doing this now, hoping that the backlash will be less. And then they want to add PSN requirement in the future. And then when only people that could have PSN on it are really playing the game, they're hoping that the impact will be lower. I don't know if that's the play or not not but they are adding this type of restriction to another game as well yeah so this is not a small play for them this is something that they clearly intend to

Starting point is 02:26:33 do those regions have never gotten access to the game back they added three more places today yeah i don't know i haven't exactly you know tried to play with an account from yemen for example or zimbabwe uh or any of these other places aruba angola uh there's there's 180 of them you can easily see it on the steam db website because there's the change of adding 180 countries or 173 177 and then three more um but yeah it's it's it's weird to me if you were a game development studio sure and sony not a thing i know a ton about sony approached you i'll allow it consider that a lot of game development studios do look for publishers not because in modern day you really need uh the publishing side of the publishers but because you need the funding so you're a game development studio you're looking for funding you need more

Starting point is 02:27:30 funding to finish your game off you think it's going to be a hit but it's not out yet and sony approaches you after this happened you take that deal or do you keep looking because i'm looking i'm looking at how arrowhead is kind of being tossed around in the middle of dude i take the money i mean the games game development industry is it's brutal it's brutal um if if that's i mean obviously if i have another offer i'll consider it yeah so if it's if like if sony's the only one on the table yeah it's like who's my better option at microsoft yeah you might just get closed and and to be clear you know we're not necessarily talking about an acquisition but like you know what what are microsoft terms going to be do i have to do i have to allow it to be

Starting point is 02:28:14 exclusive on game pass before i can even sell it for myself or like like what right like i don't know it depends on on everyone is going to have strings attached just a part of the variable there's no free money yeah so with all of that in mind it might still it might still be the the best option which sucks but like realistically i don't i don't have a backup plan i i i i don't have 25 million dollars to give you to finish your game i mean mean, if Linus Publisher game funding group existed, yeah, I'd be happy to. There's a bunch of other YouTubers starting up game publishers. I wish them luck with that.

Starting point is 02:28:53 I mean, hey, I heard there's a lot of talent looking for work right now, looking to build cool gaming experiences. So that's the one possible silver lining is I think we're gonna see like uh like a boom of small studios let's embrace this silver lining for a quick second to get off this topic because it kind of sucks anyways um but big mode from uh oh is it donkey or what yeah uh big mode is this is this game out now animal well is it out it came out today animal well people seem to love this solo

Starting point is 02:29:26 dev did i obviously haven't had time to play it because it came out today but people are raving about first game they've published right yeah sick overwhelmingly positive steam reviews right now good sign 97 of all reviews and there's been 1834 reviews that came out today that's a lot of players seven percent are marking as positive was it three percent of people who own a game review it yeah 1800 is huge so this thing is smashing already good job guys people love it so billy basso great work big mode good first release maybe i'll go home and play it dang good job so speaking of other alternative publishers my my way too short video on on a floatplane was talking about how this type of stuff is is happening more and more lately and apparently at least big mode is doing it well

Starting point is 02:30:19 i'm not going to say all the rest of them are going to do it well i'm not going to say there's you know a ton of billy bassos out there but i'm really stoked that that this is working out this is great very cool obviously i can't tell everything about the game looks cool kind of reminds me of like undertale a little bit maybe a little bit of like hollow knight um like Hollow Knight. I don't know. It just seems like a vibe. Yeah. Really interesting art style. Look at the reflections in the water.

Starting point is 02:30:52 Yeah. Sick. Super cool. Very excited. Do you know what it's made with, Dan? He wrote his own engine. All right, Billy Basso. Dang, dude.

Starting point is 02:31:03 Absolute goat solo dev. My goodness. Linusus you're still muted by the way that's not even fair to the other devs anyway sorry what i said before was it feels like somewhere in between like uh it reminds me a little bit of like undertale or hollow knight kind of uh i think it's a puzzle puzzle style platformer rather than like uh anything else i think hold on How big is the game? Is this real? Is it actually 40 megs?

Starting point is 02:31:29 I'm questioning this. 34 megs. 34 megabyte game. 33 megs. It's getting smaller. They're the mega. 42, 34. They're the mega-est.

Starting point is 02:31:40 More like omega bytes. Under the system requirements, it says that you need 40 megs of available space more like sigma bytes look at this look at this you need a 64-bit processor one gigahertz of speed one gig of RAM and 40 megs of space oh my god I could run it on my watch is this roller coaster tycoon what's happening i would love to know what he wrote this in what the heck that is incredibly optimized hey that makes me happy apparently on someone's computer right now it's 33.37 megs i am so excited to see this pop off i might get it so happy yeah

Starting point is 02:32:19 i mean yeah i want to play this you know what I'm excited for? What are you excited for? We have some leftovers from the charity stream that didn't end up clearing payment. So the proceeds from these items will still go to BC Children's Hospital, and the items are live on our Whatnot account. They are available for purchase for anyone to grab, and mobile app users will be able to easily find the listing by navigating to our profile Linus tech tips,

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Starting point is 02:33:52 linus tech tips.com to join the squad anything else you want to go through in here luke uh yeah we don't talk about this too much i don't have a lot of details on it but ea announced that they might be putting ads in triple a games uh this isn't entirely new we've seen ads in games before i don't necessarily know what they mean by this i don't know if they mean intrusive ads like it's gonna play like a video ad in front of your face because there's been product placement in games forever like billboards and all this other type of stuff people just having items it's it's been a thing forever so i'm assuming it's new and worse in some way but i don't have a ton to say about it um also upgradable laptops are back lp cam oh yeah has been in the news lately lenovo has released a thinkpad workstation that is the first laptop compatible with lPCAM 2. You're muted.

Starting point is 02:34:47 LPCAM 2 is here. Upgradable laptops are back. Lenovo has released a ThinkPad workstation that is the first laptop that's compatible with LPCAM 2, a new DRAM standard that was recently published by JADEC. A big selling point for these new modules is that they will be faster, more efficient, and more compact than SODIMM, and also easier to upgrade or replace than soldered RAM. So they're kind of the best of both worlds. Replacement LPCAM

Starting point is 02:35:12 2 modules are available directly from Micron. I have had a ton of people, like seriously, this is probably out of every random esoteric tech thing that people have asked me to make a video about, this has been the most common. I have someone message me about it probably once a month or so over the last while. I don't get a ton of video requests directly in my DMs or my inbox or my mentions, but this is one that has come up enough times that I'm like, wow, people sure ask me to make a video about this a lot. Well, conveniently for you

Starting point is 02:35:45 we did and here's the ad that plays before it there we go yeah it's lp cam we did a whole video and it was pretty cool and we covered it in pretty darn good detail we even had a module back a year ago uh you're welcome more like a year and a half ago we also hey you know before you send me a dm asking me to make a video just just drop a quick you know look on one of our variety of channels drop a quick search you know cam and just you know see what happens because you might just find a video about it we've uh we've definitely covered a lot of stuff over the years anyway thank you for the suggestion uh this is really exciting because it's uh it's not really mentioned in our notes here, but the ability to run at the same speeds as having the packages soldered onto the main board is a huge advantage.

Starting point is 02:36:55 Basically, with SODIMM, Alex explains it in great detail in that video. We worked together on the script for it, and he did an amazing job. But basically, the trace length is just too long for so dim to keep up anymore and cam helps reduce the trace length the the the maximum trace length uh significantly allowing us to hit not quite the same speeds as soldering um directly on the motherboard or especially now we're seeing memory soldered like on package, or not soldered, but we're seeing memory added to the package.

Starting point is 02:37:30 So not quite at the same level, but hey, it's upgradable, which is an advantage for users and even an advantage for system builders who want to be able to offer multiple configurations. Find my device expansion. Oh yeah, I got an email about this. Google is finally rolling out its promised Find My Device expansion,

Starting point is 02:37:46 which will help users locate both online and offline devices, and it works pretty much the same as Apple's Find My Network. There's a billion plus Android devices in the network that'll ping your device over Bluetooth if it's nearby and send the end-to-end encrypted information to Find My Device. The system also stores recent locations with timestamps, so it can be used to find offline devices. And as recently as a couple of weeks ago,

Starting point is 02:38:10 we managed to get Yvonne's purse back using an Apple AirTag. This is very, really useful things. I told Luke about it already. That person was definitely going to keep it until I disclosed that there was a tracker on it, and I was going to be able to make noise with it as soon as I got in touch with my son back home to keep it until oh yeah i disclosed that there was a tracker on it and i was going to be able to make make noise with it as soon as i got in touch with my son back home to ping it because i didn't bring an iphone with me on the trip um anywho users that wish to opt out of the feature can do so through settings and users can also manage when they want to participate whether

Starting point is 02:38:38 it's only in high traffic areas or all areas perhaps controversially users have the option to benefit from the network by using it to find their device without participating themselves i am against that yeah me too i think that if you agree if you want to be able to find your device i think google should just draw the line here and basically say no what you want to you want to use the network to find your missing device but you're not going to contribute to it why don't you just go drink a nice cold glass of f**k off and because like it's it's it's not like it's not encrypted not reseating yeah yeah not cool yeah you're going to download a linux iso you should help other people download linux isos unfortunately the purse story we were in a pretty

Starting point is 02:39:24 chaotic headspace i'm not going to remember all the details but we were at ludwig's for the shoot uh we got an uber back to our hotel realized when we got to the hotel holy crap we don't have it we assumed that she had accidentally left it in the uber uh remember or not remember but you might not know this um we had pulled an all-nighter right before the trip, painting Plouffe's car. She stayed up with me, and we were working on it together. Neither of us was really at our best on that trip,

Starting point is 02:39:54 so we assumed it was in the Uber. We called the Uber driver, because that's a feature, and he was like, I have a fare right now. I'll check when I pull over. He didn't call back. So Yvonne calls him back later. He goes, yeah, I checked in the backseat. It's not there.

Starting point is 02:40:11 And she goes, well, okay, what about the trunk? And he's like, I have a fare. I'll check later. And we're like, okay, well, just in case it's not in the Uber, why don't we head back to ludwig studio yeah um it was not simple to get in touch with um with my son to check the air tag location because i had left my iphone back home so what am i going to need my iphone for i'll just bring my regular phone um so we hadn't managed to get in touch with him yet so we were like okay well why don't we just head back to the studio maybe we accidentally left it in the studio we got there

Starting point is 02:40:49 and it was right around that time that we learned a bunch of things so the driver got back to us eventually that it wasn't in the car so we went oh we searched the studio it wasn't there we got the ability to to uh see where it was but we couldn't ping it yet long story um and oh no we could ping it but we couldn't find it in ludwig studio so now we're really worried now we've got the like last known location but it was a long time ago and it was at a park that was like a little ways away from ludwig studio and And we're like, okay, that's a bad sign because unless we drove past someone with an iPhone as we were leaving. And that was the last time it got pinged and it was in the Uber,

Starting point is 02:41:34 which the guy said it wasn't, but like, you never know. I had a cabby lie and say that I didn't leave a jacket in a cab once. And they definitely had it unless that's what happened. Um, this thing is pretty lost. And even if that's what happened, this thing is pretty lost and even if that's what happened

Starting point is 02:41:46 this thing is pretty lost but then it started to get updates more recently and it was just like at the intersection near this park and i i had already had the idea that if we left it on the sidewalk someone might have just grabbed it chuck been walking you know because you're gonna be moving just ditched the tracker like in the park just hucked it in a garbage can or something like that and and then and then took the purse with them because the tracker is just hanging in plain sight off of the purse it's not like in a hidden pocket or anything and uh so i had already kind of walked past the spark a couple times earlier and i was while we were waiting and stuck and not able to

Starting point is 02:42:26 get in touch with my son um i i had suggested to yvonne that we like walk around the park and like look in garbage cans and stuff like that because it would be it would be great if they just took the cash and then chucked the whole purse tracker included so i was kind of still holding out for that um so i didn't realize because i was looking at the find my app never actually had to use it to find anything before so i was looking at the find my app through my son's phone at the other screen and it's like a huge icon like this and i didn't realize it actually comes to a pinpoint so at some point i realized no no it's exactly at that point in the intersection where that weird like hoarder looking truck full of garbage and with like uh a kid and someone in it and clearly like no intention of moving there's a lot of like rvs and stuff

Starting point is 02:43:20 parked around like it was clearly a um a poorer neighborhood where people were living out of their vehicles um so clearly so that vehicle had caught my eye before and now i realized that the pin was like right on it um they didn't speak any english so we um we had interacted with them just sort of casually already but but finally we were like, okay, well we need to talk to them because, uh, yeah,

Starting point is 02:43:50 we're going to have to like Google translate moment, figure this out at some point. So we pull out Google translate and Yvonne basically goes, I lost my purse. Um, have you seen a purse? And they go, no.

Starting point is 02:44:01 And we kind of go, okay. Um, well, I need to wait a little bit longer before I can ping this on my own because by then my son was doing something else and we couldn't just have like him ping it. Oh, right. Oh, I remember why we couldn't just have him ping it because it wasn't near anything on the find my network. So we had the locate the last location. We had the ability to ping it with the iPhone, but we didn't have an iPhonehone so we had to go back to see this is why i told you i was going to get the details wrong we had to go back to the studio my phone battery was dead so i couldn't call yvonne i was worried

Starting point is 02:44:33 the truck would like leave uh because they had seen me kind of walking around a lot um right we had to go back to the studio they did they had an iphone but it belonged to an employee who wasn't there anymore and they didn't't have the pin to reset it. So we had to search for whether a MacBook participates in the Find My Network. We finally got that. We brought it back. We had to connect it to an internet connection, which wasn't working on my phone because my phone died.

Starting point is 02:44:58 So we had to tether it to Yvonne's. Her phone was almost dying. So we finally got to that point. So then we talked to them again because we'd already talked to them we already said we lost the purse but we hadn't we didn't have any way to ping it so now we had a way to ping it i could right i couldn't sign into my apple id on the macbook because my 2fa was on my phone which wasn't charged i had to so i was like i was in the middle of reverse charging while yvonne was sitting there because there's an Android app that you can use to ping unfamiliar trackers, but

Starting point is 02:45:29 it has to be near you for 10 minutes. So we have these multiple timers. I'm trying to reverse wireless charge my phone. I'm trying to figure out how to log into my Apple ID, maybe without it or something, or like I can team viewer into something and get something. And then Yvonne is meanwhile waiting for this countdown timer for the 10 minutes so finally we get there and we're ready to talk to them again and we're ready to ping it and so i go over to the taco stand that's like on the street next to him like hey uh google translate moment again do you mind turning down your music i'm trying to

Starting point is 02:45:56 hear a tracker and we go back and ask one more time uh hey um we've got a tracker on the purse um and so have you seen it because it's going to make a noise soon and they go oh yeah yeah i was going to give it to you um you know my my kid was sleeping so i couldn't before oh yeah and we kind of go totally okay and she goes yeah yeah uh i was i was going to give it to you. And this is, oh, right. A kid has been brought in. A neighborhood kid has been brought in to translate. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was going to give it to you. Uh, my, my husband found it and, um, and, and gave it to me and I was going to give it to you. And we're like, okay, anytime now. So she goes and gets it.

Starting point is 02:46:49 And sure enough, it's Yvonne's purse. I guess they had no idea what an air tag was because it was still sitting on it. She hands it back to Yvonne, who immediately opens it up to give her the cash as a reward. As she's saying, everything's in there. And Yvonne goes, Oh, well, I guess you helped yourself to your reward already,

Starting point is 02:47:09 which may not have actually been the lady. It might've been the husband who found it or even someone before that, or even someone before that, but one way or another, the cash wasn't in it. Uh, but you know what? Honestly,

Starting point is 02:47:21 we were so happy to have it back that we had to go bother one of Ludwig's poor team members for like, this is probably the fourth or fifth time by this point, because we went in to look for it. And then we went in to like borrow an iPhone. And then we went in to go like, hey, I'm actually, how about a MacBook? And then we went in for some other reason. We're like ringing the door every time, right?

Starting point is 02:47:39 Because like, who the heck are these guys? No, who knew who we were? But then the last thing we had to do was because we, no offense to anyone, didn't really want to walk around and look for an ATM. We're like, hey, do you have any cash? We can like PayPal you replacement cash, but we had no cash on us because I don't carry it

Starting point is 02:48:02 and Yvonne had her cash taken. So we still gave her a reward thinking maybe someone because why would you why would you confidently hand someone their purse going everything's in it when it's not when it wasn't so at the very least she probably didn't know um or maybe didn't know who she she very possibly didn't know and they clearly hadn't time hadn't had time to go through it in detail. So what I suspect was buddy picked it up, grabbed the cash immediately so that he didn't have to tell his wife that he had cash. Cause like some relationships are like that.

Starting point is 02:48:33 And I can definitely, I definitely got a vibe that, you know, there might've been some dishonesty around, you know, so probably grabbed the cash, dumped it it in the in the like hoarder looking truck thing that was just it was like full of garbage like full of garbage um which is weird because there were garbage cans in the park that were empty they could have easily put their garbage

Starting point is 02:48:57 in there but no they chose to keep it in their truck um and then intended to go and look through it later is is the vibe i got because her AirPods were still in there. And AirPods Pros, like if you have any idea what those are, that's one of the first things you're stealing. You nab those pretty quick, yeah. Yeah, her AirPods Pros were still in there. There were no transactions on any of the credit cards.

Starting point is 02:49:18 None of them had been removed. Clearly they thought they had all the time in the world to come back and go through it and figure out you know what was the value other than the cash um so so thank you thank you apple for your air tag system that you um are now finally have done your part to help google also have their own system so i don't have to buy your air tags anymore and i'll actually be able to um ping stuff myself without carrying around my stupid iphone but but does google have like what tracker can we get on the google side well they'll they'll be coming okay yeah yeah

Starting point is 02:49:56 very excited it's gonna be that'll be really nice yeah yeah i'm um i'm very very happy that we got it back we ended up giving we offered them a meal uh because there was the food stand right there and they were like no i don't want that and so we went and got cash and brought it back like okay, sure, sure, sure, fine. I decided on $60 for those of you who must know. I felt like that was, there were apparently three of them so they can get some food. And I figure I didn't owe them any more than the bare minimum since. I mean, they weren't, they were clearly not intending

Starting point is 02:50:42 on giving it back. One of them or another already had our cash. Yeah. And the other one clearly didn't intend to give us back the rest of the stuff. Yeah. I was like, what are you talking about you were going to return it? If you're going to return it, you could have easily found the phone number in it and called it. That would have been an option.

Starting point is 02:50:59 Anyway, it was very, very stressful. This was like the first day of our trip. Second, this was the second day of our trip and we had two more days to come and it would have just been, fortunately her passport was not in there. Yeah. She had her passport separate.

Starting point is 02:51:17 Never have everything together. Some countries force you to walk around with your passport. That is utterly insane. Yeah. But it is a thing. But if, if that that's not the case leave it in your hotel safe uh we should get on to merch messages because i have about six minutes uh oh i'll do i'll do some more i can do some more time than that but um yeah let's let's after dark it that's the wrong button I've already done it I have a remote thanks Andy nice Dan good job well that Andy. Nice, Dan. Good job. Oh, that wasn't me leaving.

Starting point is 02:52:06 I was trying to adjust the lights. I gotcha. Howdy, LLD. I'm back in graduate school after 20 years in a job where priorities were obvious. How do you prioritize when tasks are numerous? Wait, you already gave us that one. I already gave you that one. It was so long ago. Farmer Nebraska and solar storms

Starting point is 02:52:22 are wreaking havoc today. Interference with our gps systems needs to be precision and has brought planting to a halt across the state needed for precision oh precision agriculture yeah oh that's interesting scary to an industry thoughts yeah that's uh that is an impact of solar storms that i would not personally have thought of. Me neither. Thoughts, it's not going to happen that often, I think. Unless it does, I don't know.

Starting point is 02:52:52 Yeah, maybe. Yeah, solar warming. Solar climate change. I think it goes the other way. Solar climate change. They usually get colder. Yeah. Unless they don't. Unless they get a lot hotter and bigger um yikes thoughts i don't know all right what's the next one we'll guys we'll have to embrace tradition yeah luke's gotta go pretty quick so uh oh my goodness uh apparently the largest storm

Starting point is 02:53:23 is going to be here about 10 p.m to 2 a.m today if we can uh get outside oh to see the northern lights and living in canada i have still never seen them well me neither because most of the times that they announce them it's you're not going to see it here but theoretically this one you like actually might sick because they're always like oh you can see the vancouver and you go outside it's like no you really can't well it's always overcast here so that's an issue maybe these ones biggest one since 2005 sick hi lld do you think linux will ever gain competitive market share in the new consumer space yes okay it already is happening exhibit a steam deck yeah sick and if valve ever releases steam os man i would seriously consider running steam os for

Starting point is 02:54:06 like a media center pc like like a tv man the console like experience of steam os very cool very awesome hey ldl love the wind show curious what you guys think about the future where ai plays a role in government in an effort to eliminate the inherited flaws of being human greed power bias etc well those last three things that you just said are all the reasons that they're not going to allow AI to make those decisions, because then they wouldn't get the benefits of their greed, power, and bias.

Starting point is 02:54:34 I think it'll take a long time for AI to play a significant role there, because it's pretty obvious that they have no interest in logic and doing whatever is sort of clearly the most correct thing. I also think that there's a huge chance for when we start doing that, those systems become compromised and then utilized in like office space, you know, scrape the pennies off style ways that are going to be difficult to notice with lacking oversight and cause extremely major problems.

Starting point is 02:55:09 After trying Windows, Mac, and Linux I've found that all are missing some great features from one another. What feature do you think should be universally implemented by operating systems? Sleep that works. Got them, Windows. Stop turning yourself on to do updates and then crashing. Stop turning yourself on to do updates and then crashing

Starting point is 02:55:25 stop turning yourself on at all if i turn you off stay off period wake timers do nothing uh no there's no super checks tonight guys um what features do you think should be universally i mean a lot of operating systems are like i don't you don't interface with it that much yeah i really don't that much. I use my browser so much more than I use the operating system itself. It makes me sad that more websites aren't services, but I understand.

Starting point is 02:55:53 Like I probably interact with Steam more than I interact with Windows, if you think about it. Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree, to be honest. Because I launch a computer, I make sure Teams, Slack, and Chrome are open. I'm done?

Starting point is 02:56:09 If I'm working? Snipping tool? Yeah. You know? But then they all, do they not all, I know Linux and Windows have snipping tools. Oh, no, no, no, I'm not saying as a feature. I'm just trying to think of other things I need to have open.

Starting point is 02:56:22 Yeah, like almost nothing. Your cloth? For work, anyway. Yeah, sure. sure i'm just trying to think of other things i need to have open yeah like almost nothing your cloth for work anyway yeah sure man does it bother you as much as it bothers me that you can't click on the time in the corner and get a second hand anymore on windows 11 oh yeah it's dumb what the heck i i use it as just like like uh like a timer clock but why just just give it back and why did you take away the very bottom right show desktop thing and you can turn it back on which is nice do you use that by the way click all the way down in the bottom right to show the desktop yeah mine is turned back on yeah it's like why did you not on this computer mind you but on my computer at home

Starting point is 02:57:01 it wasn't in the way of anything that was the whole point oh it's reminding me to take my antibiotics oh yeah uh i'm patiently waiting for the precision screwdriver is there any new news on it are you really patiently waiting though if you message me about it are you patient you paid money to ask you about it uh yeah that's that seems like the opposite of patience to be clear i'm not complaining um but it doesn't seem patient is all i'm saying soon soon my pretties i think we ran into a weird complication where it turns out that another major precision screwdriver vendor got the tolerances backwards so instead of having the bits be exactly and exactly a size and then accounting for tolerance in the bits by having the female side and their driver be bigger they made the female side of the driver

Starting point is 02:58:02 be exactly and exactly the size and had their bits be smaller to account for tolerance issues so the standard is basically f**ked because this is a major vendor and so we did it correctly which would have made at the edges of tolerances our driver incompatible with third-party bits ah not because we did anything wrong so these are the kinds of things that um hey you know you that's why you do pre-production runs and that's why you do validation and testing and uh everything will be okay this is why hardware is difficult we're're going to do it wrong, basically, in order to maintain compatibility as best we can. Fair enough.

Starting point is 02:58:46 But we're unhappy about it, and we're going to gripe. I use my LTT driver to remove a GPS tracking device and ignition cutoff for my 2013 Ford Fiesta. Have you ever found a device or tech installed where it shouldn't have been? I blame the dealership. That sounds wild. Is wild from like a like a like a lease or like uh i think you're in a movie now i think i think you get to be the star of a movie now that's wild i wonder if it was a lease that they sold and then it was just

Starting point is 02:59:19 still there maybe or maybe it was a rental car that the dealership then sold dealerships sell a lot of rental cars and a ford fiesta would have been very or maybe it was a finance deal and it's there so that they can repo it that actually seems like man all those all of them are dystopian and all of them seem plausibly likely. Yeah. I hate all of it. Bird question for Luke. At a pet store in Conure, when he sees my 18-month-old son, gets as...

Starting point is 02:59:54 It's not in Conure. Conure is a type of bird. It's a type of parrot. Pet store Conure. Oh, sorry. I'm trying to go quickly. I'm not doing very good right now. It's all good.

Starting point is 03:00:04 It's fine. At a pet store a conure when he sees my 18th 18 month old son gets as close as possible to him turns on his side and rolls into the glass of the cage is this a good or bad behavior i don't know conure super well i would say that's a good behavior one uh conures are very hand friendly and they like to cuddle and stuff like that so he probably feels safe and wants to cuddle and be friendly and nice i i would read that as a very positive like very notably positive behavior but i've never had those birds i don't 100 know but i would i would say it's good 80,085.dll i'm looking forward to watching the borderlands movie when it comes out even if it's

Starting point is 03:00:45 bad what video game movies are were you excited about also more tall shirts when thanks for all you do i was excited about the warcraft movie and i hated it i hated it wow tell me how you really i went to go see with my brother and we were both just like mad the whole time it was annoying people saying why it shouldn't have been live action that was dumb blizzard has like historically amazing cinematics they they basically always did and always have yeah them and squaresoft were like killed it and then they released a live action movie which was just weird and then they borked a bunch of the lore which was like what are you doing you mad bro you have like a bunch of the like weirdest nerdiest lore heavy

Starting point is 03:01:30 fans and then you're just like change some stuff you mad bro what yeah i was yeah do you have a habit of periodically downloading your account data from the products and services you use the last time i remember doing so was to see where my brother's friend spent his v bucks i don't i mean yeah i could see that maybe being useful you know in case who knows you know amazon decides to stop showing you all of your previous purchases or something like that right like i could see it being useful but no i really don't make a habit of it i don't either probably should yeah hey lld i'm a hiring manager and just got done with an on-site interview where the candidate was technically sound but not a behavioral fit how do you screen for both given limited interview time actually really like that wording not a behavioral fit yeah i do i do what i call culture fit interviews and then i do technical interviews afterwards and to be clear

Starting point is 03:02:32 like a culture fit does not mean uh discriminatory it means oh yeah i absolutely need to work with you on a daily basis and i have to make sure that that's not going to make both of us want to blow our brains out. Yeah. Yvonne asked me some hilarious questions and it was very good interview. I mean, yeah, it's Yvonne. So I'm sure it was.

Starting point is 03:02:54 Um, I also have asked some hilarious questions, but I don't think anyone would say they had a good interview. I liked, I liked my interview. It was really long. Well, yeah.

Starting point is 03:03:04 I mean, if you're going to hire someone, then you should take the time, right? Oh, yeah. But wasn't ours like hours and hours long? I don't remember. Didn't you have to get dinner in the middle of it? I think you've talked about it before.

Starting point is 03:03:13 You drove me home because all the buses shut down. I showed up immediately after school. It was like, I think... See? Monster right here. It was like 4.30, 5 p.m. ish. And then by the time we were done the interview the bus system had shut down and it was dark out this is cool agent j is something uh i have the interview then i give them a tour the tour really helps figure out their interests and personality

Starting point is 03:03:41 that's a really good idea that's cool i like that a lot actually that's really clever i've i've thought for a while that's super cool i like start like playing tape to tape with people or something yeah because like doing an activity with someone i think is extremely informative yeah that's what avon did with me oh what'd she do uh interview then tour oh typical she's so good at it um sick yeah i don't know if that's for everybody uh let's see i'm in the process of building my first house and i'm thinking about doing the painting myself to save money i'm currently looking for looking at spraying would that be worth it and what should i look out for what is your sanity worth to you painting's a lot of work and it's tedious. I think what you should do is, man, you're in the process of building your own house, man. You got so much to do. Okay. So it depends. If this is

Starting point is 03:04:35 new construction, spraying can be very efficient and can be pretty cost effective. If everything else is in place, you probably don't want to spray the amount of work that you save by spraying instead of rolling. It's going to cost you in masking everything off and protecting everything else from overspray. I would say painting is the kind of thing that some people, even very handy people, just don't have patience for. And it's worth painting one room, because presumably you can do that, painting one room to see if you have the temperament for it. And if you don't, just have a professional come in and do it.

Starting point is 03:05:16 They'll come in, they'll rip through the job, especially if it's new construction. They really know what they're doing there, and then it's just done. Hey, DLL. if it's new construction they really know what they're doing there and then it's just done hey dll i wait sorry as for what to look out for don't waste money on on just extra crap that you don't need you do not need a a special little bucket for holding your paint when you go up the ladder, you just use a paint bucket. You fold over the handle, you hold that in your thumb, you hold the bottom of the paint bucket and you just fill it up about this much. It's called the cut can, not because you cut the

Starting point is 03:05:55 can, but it's for cutting in the edges. Um, so you just put like this much paint in the bottom, then you dip your brush, bang it on the sides and just paint a nice steady line just use a like a sash um i think it's called a sash brush the kind that's shaped like that okay like kind of like a sword um so don't don't waste money on on like you know oh yeah buy this little thing that goes on the edge end of a pole and you know you like run it along the top to do edging don't don't do any of that stuff the only things you need to paint a room are a brush a roller pull a roller a cut can and a drop cloth never ever no job is so small that you don't need a drop cloth don't do it it's not worth it from other people as well specifically about the drop cloth hey dll i might try to skunk works a land at open sauce what's your most obscure land party

Starting point is 03:06:49 favorite that you've had issues running on modern systems liero oh but there is uh there's a modern like redo but it doesn't include some of my favorite things to do in old liero it had a map editor that was a lot of fun we uh we spent a lot of time in Mr. McCloskey's portable. What is Liero? It's a little like, it's like worms, but real time. 1v1. Oh. Yeah, it's like, it's ancient.

Starting point is 03:07:14 How do you spell it? L-I-E-R-O. Whoa, it is definitely ancient. It's super fun. That's sweet. DLL, I have been amazon free for a year after listening to luke recently i had two tech orders placed at other stores ship from amazon got them how do you avoid this should companies have to disclose this yeah got them what okay i've received boxes that were amazon boxes from other companies but i don't

Starting point is 03:07:49 think i don't think they just relabeled it personally i think they just had that box and reused it um wow i don't run into this very often just try to find another store i don't think there's like you're not going to be able to go back to them and be like i didn't run into this very often just try to find another store i don't think there's like you're not going to be able to go back to them and be like i didn't want this to come from amazon um but yeah just uh just go somewhere else there's so much you can do yeah best advice get wrecked yeah good one luke uh oh my god they said the names properly hello dan luke and linus this feels wrong now. Any update on Whaleland?

Starting point is 03:08:29 And what are you looking forward to seeing at Computex? From M. Barton the Whale. I'm kind of hoping for NVIDIA 5000 series at Computex. That'd be pretty cool. I don't actually think it's that likely, but I'd certainly be into it. Could use a new GPU family. Maybe the pricing won't suck.

Starting point is 03:08:49 Sorry, it's not funny. update on whale land no we've got to work things out with the city that's probably going to take some time we'll see how it goes hopefully they are um willing to work with us in good faith and if not then i mean it might be dead so uh yeah that would sure be lame lame land yeah lame land it's all mine all right and on that note hey thanks so much for tuning in we will see you again next week same bad time are we gonna skim through potentials same bad channel oh i do need to skip through quick but there is a bunch of potentials i those were collapsed by default i didn't even see them oh i'll start top you start bottom uh i mean sure minus would you consider daily driving a sony smartphone absolutely the one thing i'm waiting for is for them to allow reversing the back and multitask buttons um i i am right-handed i use back a lot and i usually use my phone in my

Starting point is 03:09:47 right hand i cannot be reaching across it like that so i just i just need them to get that done and then i'm good to go i'm so ready i'm trying to curate oh okay william asks uh we've heard about the charges that app stores charge, but how much did a store like NCIX make off of a $60 game? So NCIX had very, very poor relationships with game publishers and game distributors. So we would make as little, we could make as much as about $3 four dollars off of a 60 game and as

Starting point is 03:10:28 little as losing money in order to hit msrp it was very stupid basically physical media sales was a complete disaster from us from day zero until the very end it just made absolutely no sense whatsoever there was also like barely any there. It was a weird... Yeah, well, if we didn't make any money on them. Yeah. Why would we stock them? Occasionally, we'd bring in some of like a really hot new title just to kind of bring people in the door

Starting point is 03:10:54 and have them be aware that we existed. But that was the only business reason that we would ever do that. I'm just going to take a screenshot here. This isn't freezing, if you think that's happening. Okay, cool. Do continue if you have any more. Oh, do you want me to just do stuff? Okay, no, I'm done.

Starting point is 03:11:15 I can read now. Sorry. Hey, LLD, I've been really enjoying David as a host recently. What went into his move from shooting to hosting? Was it something he initiated, or was it suggested by someone else at the company oh i mean i think that would be a story for david to tell but um i thought that might be the case i just yeah i guess i can kind of tell maybe my part of it i i've always really enjoyed working with david and i think that from, you know, my point of view, um, it was, it was a, a cool potential path for him to, to progression.

Starting point is 03:11:53 I think that he'd been in that role for a really long time. And I think that, uh, I think it's been really, really positive. Uh, we've always, I really like his stuff. I, I, I see see i gotta be careful when i'm putting words in other people's mouths right because i was about to say we've always enjoyed working together but for all i know he hates my guts right who knows possible i mean i don't know that he'd still be here if that were the case he's been here a long time now is he at his i mean you know i can't get into people's start dates. You've got to be so careful, right, about, as an employer, disclosing people's information.

Starting point is 03:12:28 I think, I'm pretty sure that everything I'm saying right now is within bounds, but you've got to be so careful anyway. I always really enjoyed working with him, and I thought it would be pretty cool to work on more of, like, the planning the video side together as opposed to the execution of the video side together. more of like the planning the video side together as opposed to the execution of the video side together and we've got some quite senior members of the camera team that are really awesome to the point where we didn't need david to be there all day every day anymore um we've got andy and second andy and andrew and he goes by andrew i was just I was so tickled when he came back from a family function of some sort. And he was like, yeah, I kept, people kept talking to me and I'd go, oh, where's Andy? Because he gets called Andy

Starting point is 03:13:13 and it never even occurred to me because it goes by Andrew here. And also because we have Andy and Andrew in the camera department. So nobody would ever think to call Andrew Andy, but it's like, yeah, obviously it's short for um and then glenn glenn's been doing awesome work um with the camera team lately as well so we yeah we've got like three really good dedicated camera camera people and some and some others that can kind of sub in when needed so yeah david moved over to writing i think

Starting point is 03:13:40 he's been doing a great job he's got a very creative mind very very creative mind he loves he's a he's a doer he's a he's a thinker we've got we've got i mean obviously the only reason i'm talking about david is because you asked we've got a really really great team overall world class but that was specifically in my version of the story not putting any words in his mouth, why that particular transition took place. Hey DLL, loved the LumaField CT scanner video. Was wondering what you think about heat reactive cups that show the internals of various

Starting point is 03:14:14 products when it heats up. That's a super cool idea. Sounds pretty neat. Finding a mug source that doesn't have any lead in their shit has been very difficult. If you've ever wondered why we're the only merch store on earth that doesn't have mugs. That's a thing?

Starting point is 03:14:33 It's not for lack of effort, but it's in a lot of the ceramic colorant, like the treatment. Yeah. It's probably fine. like the treatment yeah i was it's probably fine current current amount of years old when i figured out that crystal is lead crystal yeah like old crystal cookware whatever was all it's all lead i had no idea i don't think a lot of it actually leaches into whatever's in it but like sure you know yeah yeah so um at some point we're it out. Maybe. I also was deeply uncomfortable with how Bone China works. So only a certain percentage of what they fire meets the quality standard, which is inherent, I guess. is inherent i guess um but the solution to that is that anything that doesn't meet standard they have specially mapped out landfills where it just all goes okay any industry that has so much waste that they have their own special landfill where they

Starting point is 03:15:42 can put all of their stuff i thought it had something to do with how it was mapped out i was confused for a second all right yeah no no it's just there's a ton of waste yeah so much for every mug that we sold on the store they were going to produce like three to meet our quality standards so we were just like how about no yeah yeah how about not that all right so that's pretty cool. Hey, WAN.dll, what are your daily driver battery banks? And hold on, to be clear, there might be suppliers that do a better job or whatever, but we haven't found them, so we're, yeah, there you go.

Starting point is 03:16:19 What's your daily driver battery bank? I remember you mentioning one. Um... What's your daily driver battery bank? I remember you mentioning one. It's a... Hold on. I'm going to get the... Anchor 733 power bank. So it's a combination wall wart slash power bank with pd um it's kind of

Starting point is 03:16:50 inconvenient how heavy it is so especially when i'm traveling on like loose hotel and plane outlets it has a tendency to fall out yeah i feel how heavy it is yeah i can see that happening it has a tendency to fall out but um the convenience of having a battery bank that is always charged because i use it anytime i charge my laptop and it charges this at the same time that's actually pretty cool kind of outweighs it um yeah i mean look i've talked about this before we won't take anchor's money because i i don't think they've ever really made right um from that whole that whole security camera ufie brand situation thing but that doesn't mean i won't use the product like people seem people seem to be very confused sometimes about the things that i say there's a difference between company and self there's also people find this to be a very difficult concept when it comes to me and

Starting point is 03:17:48 amazon because they know that floatplane has some workings through aws and they're like you boycott amazon but you used aws stuff with floatplate i'm like yeah you criticize society yet you participate in society like it's i as an individual won't do it this is not the gotcha that you think it is i um i i just i am i'm willing to buy a product and use it or in that in that case probably they sent it to us as a sample i don't know but i'm willing to use a product i'm not willing to endorse it and i'm not willing to take their money in order to promote it to you yeah that's it it's that simple and I'm not willing to take their money in order to promote it to you. Yeah. That's it.

Starting point is 03:18:25 It's that simple. For Linus, are you still using your Steam deck? No. I did just finally finish Day of the Diver, though. It was awesome. I played it on the Ally. Nice. Yeah, it's a good game.

Starting point is 03:18:40 Did you play it? I started it. I didn't get super gripped, and with that type of gameplay time i should be spending more time in final fantasy 6 so i have not continued oh yeah have you played it at all a little bit oh really just not a lot where yet i'm still stuck in that town i don't remember the name of it wow you suck yeah he's still in zozo yeah you might say that his effort has been zozo yeah you get a bell for that one lld have you ever met a person who you thought was a fan but

Starting point is 03:19:09 they were actually some acquaintance you just forgot you met oh yeah 100 100 like especially at trade shows oh because man that'll be someone i haven't seen in eight years or whatever and they remember me because they watch the videos or something so their memory of me is constantly being refreshed and mine isn't and no offense but like i'm really bad with names and faces and i even going back to my days at ncix when i had no youtube channel at all i i would be meeting so many people um because i was a retailer and generally like, you know, everyone's trying to get their product in your store.

Starting point is 03:19:47 So I would, I would have so many people wanting to meet me that I, there's so many faces and I'm so sleep deprived. Like I just, I'm, I'm at my worst at trade shows. I try my best, but I'm at my worst.

Starting point is 03:19:58 And so I just often have this issue. I will, I will sometimes start an encounter with someone and i'll just gamble because i have no idea i'll be like hey nice to see you again and they're like what or i'll be like hey nice to meet you and they're like this is this is about the fourth time but sure you gotta do the neutrals no i i just own it at this point good to see you first time last time who knows no i just no i just i just own it i do neutrals for sure even if i'm 100 confident neutrals if i get it wrong i'm just like yeah i'm sorry i'm really bad with names and faces i think it's a learning disability one of

Starting point is 03:20:37 my problems is actually they can't they can't come after me if i say it's a disability no seriously i can't do it to the point where I think there might be something wrong with me. Isn't that part of ADHD stuff? I don't know, maybe. I thought it was. Sure. I don't know.

Starting point is 03:20:52 Well, it's a learning disability. Sure. I don't know. For me, I constantly think I might recognize people. So then, who knows? Yeah. Because I'll be like, I might this person from like hockey when i was also might have been at like a viewer meetup or that so who knows or whatever else it could be any

Starting point is 03:21:12 relationship i have no clue and then they'll say hi and i'm like sure could be generic white dude could be met at a meetup could be played sports with i have no clue all right next up let's keep going okay i'm gonna go with that i'm just gonna say sorry i'm neurodivergent nice which is not untrue that is true let's keep it going hi luke other than nasa what government tech infrastructure would you like to tour like a nuclear power plant yeah if we want to see all their floppy disks i guess anxiety yes greetings from wanteam.ltt would like advice from linus it's been a few months since i bought my manual car and it's the best purchase decision i've ever made any tips and tricks for me have fun enjoy it while it lasts

Starting point is 03:22:00 i mean it's uh i don't think they're going to keep making them at least not at affordable price points for much longer i mean you'll be able to get older vehicles obviously but replacement parts are eventually going to become difficult to source and the whole manual driving lifestyle is going to fall by the wayside yeah they have like simulated manual now but oh the cvt garbage awesome yeah every article i've read about it is like this is actually f***ing incredible and it's funny because i i every time i come across another one i send it to alex clark with like a nye nye nye nye nye nye because i told him that i thought that would be something that could like get me really into a car is like having all the torque of electric with like the fun of just playing with the playing with even if it's a fake gearbox like gear by wire or whatever um

Starting point is 03:22:53 and he every time he's like he's like oh man it's it's hilarious like see you harder bro because he hates it so much he's a mechanical engineering guy right like he anyway when i get a chance to when we finally get a chance to try one i think we're almost gonna have to do two completely separate short circuits he'll have to do one and i'll have to do one if you if you did yeah oh or you do one but you have you guys cover the same thing and you just cover it like back by back or like spliced together be kind of fun that'd be interesting yeah hey dll early in my it career is a help desk tech after performing a career change uh what is a memorable or favorite moment early in your careers i mean my very first day at the computer store being a boxing day, which is the Canadian equivalent of Black Friday.

Starting point is 03:23:47 Oh, I'm so sorry. Absolutely wild. That's pretty epic. There was one day where my supervisor at the time in Geek Squad told me that I could take my overshirt part of my uniform off so that I wouldn't get stopped by employees and could just hide in the back and just work on computers because we were backed up and he thought i would be the fastest at fixing everything that's pretty cool and i was so filled with pride that i did as good of a job as i possibly could have because i was like this is sick that was cool very early lmg i'll never forget packing for that very first ces putting together that that like duffel that had the editing computer

Starting point is 03:24:27 with the extreme edition in it like the super super tiny editing computer and then like it had like a like a monitor or two like packed in it i think one of them ended up getting broken at some point maybe that was at a different trade show it eventually got i think it was eventually but we had these like acer like super slim for the time uh ips monitors that were like honestly pieces of shit like by modern standards but they were good enough that we could edit videos um and like this whole clever idea that we were going to set up an editing booth like an editing suite like in our hotel room and like like man we were up late those nights and we were like filming videos of the prep so that we'd have videos to upload because it was do or die time.

Starting point is 03:25:06 If we didn't make videos like that was it. Luke and Ed didn't get paid and I had to go get a job. Like I also didn't get paid. It's that simple. Yeah, we cranked. That year was crazy. That year was absolutely nuts. We're all probably going to live a little bit less long because of that one trip

Starting point is 03:25:25 just a tiny amount oh yeah 100 but yeah no question hello dan luke and linus luke i'm on the opposite side of my health journey from you being underweight and apathetic how would you approach healing in my case well i have no experience with that, really. At one point in time, I was very, very skinny. Really? Yeah. I had, like, fainting problems from it. And do you have any memory of this time? It was before I knew you.

Starting point is 03:25:54 Is the skinny in the room with us right now? The fetal at this point? Oh, my goodness. No, no, no. This was, like, in high school. If I sat down and leaned leaned forward my gut didn't even go out it still came in i was really skinny it was largely because i was growing way too fast yeah i knew the humblebrag was coming i was just i was just too tall and chad i didn't say how tall

Starting point is 03:26:16 i was at the time i just said it was a growth spurt i was very tall at the time um and my was growing too it probably was statistically um and it's it comes to you know you got to consume more calories if you want to gain more weight and then the apathetic part this isn't going to help with the needing to consume more calories bit but i find to be inspired to do things you have to actually do the thing first you have to be in motion if you want to stay in motion basically be a flywheel let's go yeah so do more stuff and stuff food in your face try not to just like feed with garbage either though to be clear you don't want a dirty bulk just eat more food in general one thing that can help with that is eating more dense calories because like if you think about the how people do it in the in the opposite actually though i know have have more nuts

Starting point is 03:27:12 you'll be really surprised at how many calories are in nuts so if you go to like costco and buy those big tubs of just like nuts yeah the amount of calories that are in one of those tubs is insane yep the calories and loose nuts you wouldn't believe it they're trying to eat meals not snacks okay last one i got here ltt and nvidia thank you for the 4080 super winning it prompted an emergency case change what was the what was one of the most memorable times you acquired something and it led to other purchases you You know what? I'm going to ignore the second part of your question because the most memorable time I ever won something was when my school did like a fundraiser thing where you like sell whatever and like raise money. And out of the like 350 students, they drew one of those gigantic five pound hershey chocolate bars as a prize

Starting point is 03:28:06 and i fucking won it my dad didn't let me eat it he made me like cut it up into pieces and bring it into my class to share with everybody which in hindsight was the right thing definitely the right absolutely like primo parenting moment but fuck yeah i's not happy about it it's kind of funny what a thing to give to a kid yeah five pounds there's a picture of me like seven or something like holding this thing that i get like it looks so big because I'm so small. Oh my goodness. All right, let's get out of here. All right.

Starting point is 03:28:49 Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. Outro Music

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