The WAN Show - Intel is Staging a BIG Comeback! - WAN Show January 22, 2021

Episode Date: January 25, 2021

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You know what they say in the CPU business when it's on? They say, it's on. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. When you're failing, hire people that you used to have employed. Yeah, yeah. Intel has made some very interesting hiring decisions as of late that look like they're going to heat up competition in the CPU market. In other news today, we've got... Oh, man.

This is not going to be a very interesting show today. But Google has threatened to pull out of Australia over a new link tax. That's right. They will not be putting any dingo in australia's baby oh my goodness also nvidia is sort of killing the max q and max p branding thank goodness also uh no it's not good news that that's not good news we'll talk about that no it's terrible oh geez it's actually way worse it's worse than ever before oh boy that's exciting also raspberry pi foundation launches a four dollar pi pico four dollars imagine that a four dollar computer well you know what what are you wasting your time

imagining that for i know i told you to imagine it but you got to have a mind of your own you got to think about if you're supposed to imagine it or not you don't have to imagine it, but you gotta have a mind of your own. You gotta think about if you're supposed to imagine it or not. You don't have to imagine it because it's real. Just like the intro is real. Yeah. What is reality, though? Reality? It's the real... Can something digital really be real?

It's the real itty. It's not the fake itty. Yeah. Stupid fake itties. That's right. Oh, I never actually set up the sponsors today. Dang it. I knew that.

I knew I didn't do things. I just like, man, am I even competent? The show is brought to you today by FreshBooks, KernelCare, and Pulseway. Oh, yeah. All right. We're going to jump right into our big topic today. The original sources are AnandTech.com and Investors Business Daily. Despite intense competition from ARM-based competitors and rival chipmaker AMD,

Intel has beaten its Q4 2020 targets with record revenue. I mean, there's one good thing about putting the bean counters in charge. Am I right? Record revenue. Another way of looking at this is that there's certain companies that benefit from pandemics. Well, that's another way of thinking about it. But yet another way of thinking about it is that there are certain companies that are experts when it comes to milking 14 nanometer, squeezing blood from a stone. That's what Intel is the master of. So Intel beat its Q4 2020 targets. And the star of the show was the client computing group, which is your core i7s, your core i9s, which benefited from increased demand that the pandemic has placed on computer sales, as Luke might have mentioned before. There's a bit of a catch, though. These numbers

were leaked, forcing Intel to release its earnings report early. Intel blamed the leak on a hack, which caused their stock to drop by 4% to as much as 9%, erasing a 7% increase from yesterday. But then, hold on a second. Why did the stock go up yesterday? And this is where the headline of today's WAN show comes from. Very exciting. Intel made a very interesting recent hire. So they've got a new CEO with, thankfully, an engineering background.

So this is Pat Gelsinger. And instead of an accounting background, which is just wonderful. And apparently at the request of CEO Pat Gelsinger, Glenn Hinton has come back to Intel. So this is not like a new hire in the sense that you go to the store and buy new shoes. This is a new hire in the sense that you have old shoes that you've worn for 35 years and you like really like them, but they were retired.

And then now you're wearing them again. Yeah. Yeah. So like it's. Shoes in the closet that you've refused to get rid of and then one day you're like you know what i'm gonna crack them back out you know what i just all the other shoes every other shoe in the market those yeezys they ain't got nothing on my like 35 year old hiking boots you know like this is the work this is the workhorse shoe so glenn hinton worked on a couple of projects that you've probably never

heard of before um there was the pentium pro okay uh the pentium 2 pentium 3 um i mean i i barely even heard of them and like i've been into computers my whole life. What's Pentium? What's even Pentium? Is it like Penthouse? Is it like sexy computers? Worked on the i960CA, the first superscalar risk processor. Nehalem. You ever heard of Nehalem, Luke? Isn't that a doom guy level?

What's that? What's that? Nehalem. I think it's a, I think it's a small area of Oregon, Oregon, USA. I think it's a, is that a County? It's a city. Wow. That, that really barely qualifies as a city.

I mean, are you kidding me right now? Sports camp number eight. There's like a few streets like bigger than nihilum oregon no offense no offense if you're from nihilum just kidding i know nobody from nihilum is actually watching because there's like apparently six people the population was 271 people in 2010 and they probably don't have internet anyway. So I think we're good here on not upsetting the people of Nehalem too badly. Either way, the point is, okay, a lot of you might not have actually heard of Nehalem, but Nehalem was the code name for what was pretty

much like the beginning of the modern high-end desktop core series processor. So that was on LGA 1366. That was, let me have a look here. I think Bloomfield was technically a sub, Bloomfield, hold on a second. Yeah, Bloomfield. Okay, control F, now Halem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So Bloomfield is just like the socket-specific codename for high-end desktop And then Nahalem was the same microarchitecture that was used for Bloomfield, Linfield, and Clarksfield So Linfield and Clarksfield were LG 1156 So that was the consumer platform Sorry, this has been a long time, guys

You gotta forgive me here And then Nahalem was like the big man like the halem was like man you gotta flush that thing like three or four times it had triple channel memory which is like a big deal at the time it had up to six cores six cores on the extreme edition actually you know what hold on i think I think it was Gulf Town that actually, Gulf Town, don't quote me on that. Gulf Town Intel. No, that was Westmere. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

We had to wait until, but whatever. The point was, Nehalem set the stage for a totally different level of desktop computer performance. And Mr. Glenn Hinton might have worked on that. He owns more than 90 patents from eight CPU designs over his career, and he's retired. On social media, Hinton says he will be leaving retirement to work on an exciting high-performance CPU project, saying, quote,

if it wasn't a fun project, I wouldn't have come back. As you know, retirement is pretty darn nice. So I'm excited because here's the thing. I mean, I feel like I remember seeing people in the community talking about when, um, in the community talking about when, um, uh, oh shoot. Sorry. Uh, talking about, yeah, yes. Okay. I remember seeing people in the community talking about when Jim Keller went back to AMD. It's like, I don't know, maybe, maybe Jim Keller's best ideas are behind him or something like that. Um, turns out they sure as heck weren't, uh, Keller was you know over at Apple and Tesla for a little bit doesn't mean that he forgot how to make a CPU and the thing about super smart people because remember guys we're not talking about like you know the kid in your high school

that got the best grade on the math test or whatever. We're talking about super smart people here. I'm willing to bet that in the 10 years since Halem and in the 10 years, 15 years since K8, so Jim Keller actually had about a similar period of time. I'm willing to bet that super smart people have sat around and thought of some pretty super smart ideas that they just couldn't execute before or hadn't thought of. And I wonder what would have happened if we took this angle or this other angle,

etc. Because the thing about anything is that there's always a way to improve it. Even something as simple as like a T-shirt. LTTstore.com. There's always ways to improve it. So here's something that... Here's something we didn't realize until we actually hired a fit fitment engineer. I think that's what the position is called. Anyway, she works here now. And we were like, OK, so we're working on our own T-shirt blanks instead of just buying American apparel shirts and printing on them. And she was like, yeah, so one of the things that I realized about American Apparel's blanks is that the neck hole is identical for small, medium, and large. And there's a process called grading for shirts.

I would think they would just call it sizing because that's what it is. That's where you take a design and then you grade it or you like size it up and size it down and she's like yeah that's like not how you would typically do that because someone who wears a large t-shirt probably has a bigger neck than somebody who wears a small t-shirt it's just like it's laziness basically and i was like wow i didn't even know that and that's why we have professionals who do this stuff so even something as seemingly simple as a t-shirt, there's like infinite ways that you can continue to refine and continue to perfect it. Now let's talk about, you know, a whole other several, several orders of magnitude, more complicated

project, like, I don't know, a computer processor. I'm sure they could come up with some woulda, coulda, shouldas from last time around. And I am, I am extremely excited. Now, Anand Tech's Dr. Ian Cutress from Tech Tech Potato suspects that it will be three to five years before this project bears any kind of fruit and also suspects, and this is kind of obvious. Thanks. Thanks, Ian. Also suspects that this is not like a financially motivated move because Intel's clearly making plenty of money. But what it seems like to

me is that Intel has finally pulled their heads out of their collective butts, realized that if they actually sit there and actually do nothing, eventually someone will actually show up and compete with them. and that instead of just focusing on financials and balancing the balance sheet which is a good thing you can't even call it a balance sheet if it's not balanced definitely that's stupid i think i want to interject for one quick second i think sometimes no no only i talk on one show no um i think sometimes when we talk about the like an engineer should be leading this company type of thing yes some people think that we like don't think that finance or business or marketing or whatever people should be like involved at all no it's just we don't think those type of people

should should like lead the ship should pilot the ship like they still need to be there or else everything will crash and burn because you won't have any freaking money which is extremely important so just maybe not leaving the ship that's all the reason that okay so we got uh jrr damon over on twitch says you say that but they are massively increasing dividends instead of r&d spending you know what you don't necessarily need the biggest r&d budget if you have really smart people working on really cool projects that they're really passionate about. So I am not necessarily saying... I also don't think increasing dividends is the right move right now. That's probably not the right move right now. But also, also another quick thing,

they just hired the guy. What R&D spending are they supposed to do right now, this second? Clearly the project is like not, you know um so give it give it a little bit of time give it a little bit of time anyway the point when it comes to leadership you need multiple perspectives that's something that is so important i remember i was reading an article about how amazing tim cook's leadership is because he forwarded an email internally only adding the word thoughts question mark to like key members of the leadership team and like how amazing and like visionary that style of leadership was and i was like what the talking about that's the most obvious thing ever pretty much every decision we make at linus media

group is handled about like that and sometimes sometimes as CEO, I will say, thank you for your thoughts. We're actually going to do it this way. But unless you have multiple people giving input, you can't possibly hope to make the right decision every time. And if you do think that, you're basically an arrogant moron.

Like that's all there is to it. And I'm not afraid to say that. And I'm just like, what we need, because anyway, the point is to it. And I'm not afraid to say that. And I'm just like, what we need? Because anyway, the point is, to be clear, I'm not saying that was a bad way to send an email. I'm saying, you know, great job, you got to respect the members of your team, because if you don't, they can't do a good job for you. I'm just saying that I don't think that's that amazing. I mean, one of the reasons that LMG has worked so well from the beginning is you've got me with like the raw dragon energy. You know, it's like, why can't we do that?

You know, I wanna do that. It doesn't, it kind of, nothing else matters. We're just gonna do it. Like I remember having a conversation with my uncle where he goes, you know, what's your business plan? What are your projections? What's your forecast? And I'm like, forecast what? We have

literally no revenue. What would I forecast? I'd just be pulling numbers out of my butt. If I'm going to pull things out of my butt, it should probably be videos so that I can upload them. So maybe I'll have some revenue and we'll talk about a forecast. Yeah, we'll talk about forecast later. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. And, you know, we would, you know, we would hire, we would hire someone or like I'd want to hire someone. And Yvonne will be like, okay, well, here's the numbers. And I'll be like, no, no, no. Take your numbers, throw them in a fire. I've got this like gut feeling, you know, that if we, that if we bring in this person, it'll like, it'll pay for itself in this roundabout way. And I don't have numbers to back it up, but don't worry about it. And the thing is like, you need,

you need both of those perspectives because Yvonne has also pulled me back from the edge of making very poor financial decisions multiple times. And you need people who are grounded in reality to actually execute on a crazy vision. Like if I had the idea, you know, oh, I have an an idea why don't we have an amazing studio okay good job linus good idea you know i'm sure every youtuber every twitch

personality ever was you know like oh man i got i got a dope idea what if i had what if i had a studio and it was like full of lights and we had cameras and there we could have people to move the lights and operate the cameras it's gonna be amazing oh my god what if we had a company but that's just an idea somebody has to actually find it make it fit in the budget and uh and then actually pay for it you know make sure the company's cash flow make sure that the paychecks you know cash i mean luke do the paychecks always clear i think so eight years in you literally don't even check do you now that you have direct deposit i trust the bond dude i don't know when's the last time you checked your paycheck hey von i think we could probably stop

paying luke i i think he actually wouldn't notice she's like don't tempt me no she didn't say that yeah i think i did it like the beginning for really not that long i think and then eventually i was just like it's gonna be like i remember one time even when i was checking i like didn't notice that there was some discrepancy and Yvonne caught it and like told me about it and fixed it and I was like wow yeah I really don't need to check I think it's gonna be fine you know Yvonne doesn't do payroll anymore right yeah anyway um so I'm excited um I mean yeah obviously, obviously it's going to take a long time for this to have any impact on something you can actually buy. But like, how freaking refreshing is it? And Anthony has a note

in here. Can I just say that it's refreshing that the minds behind these chips are getting recognition rather than just Intel did it. AMD had Jim Keller for Kade and Zen. Intel even had Keller as senior VP, but he quit in June over whether to outsource more production. I actually hadn't heard yet that that was why he quit. I did not know that. Wow, that's a... Oh man, Intel, come on. I'm like, to be clear, I'm not rooting for Intel because I think they have like, you know, amazing business practices and a history of putting the consumer first every time. That is absolutely not what's happening here.

I am always rooting for more competition in the CPU space. And whether you like it or not, when it comes to performance, Intel is the underdog right now. And that's great, but you don't want it to last forever. Don't imagine for a second that AMD is going to behave any differently.

Part of it is just human nature. It's human nature. It's the capitalist system that we all are participating in, whether we like it or not. It just is what it is. If they sit there for long enough with no competitive challengers, they will get complacent. We already are seeing

it with Ryzen 5000. They already increased prices. Did they have to? Probably not. Did they do it anyway? Sure. I mean, that's the free market, baby. Supply and demand. It's not like they can make enough of them anyway. So they might as well increase the price, right? And, you know, for AMD, like if I'm just looking at it as like an enthusiast, I'm like, you know what? AMD, go for it. You could probably use the money.

So you can go buy like an interconnectivity vendor. I forgot who they buy, Altera or something. I can't remember what company they bought. AMD buys Xilinx. Is that the one? Why did I say Altera? Yeah, yeah, Altera or something. I can't remember what company they bought. AMD buys Xilinx? Is that the one? Why did I say Altera? Yeah, yeah, Xilinx. Yeah, you know, go buy some stuff.

Make sure you stay competitive because I need that competition to be ongoing. But that doesn't mean that I want Intel to go 10 years without, you know, releasing products that are like, you know, bulldozer grade. That was a rough time when there was only one CPU vendor. Because you got to remember, competition's good for not just me personally as an enthusiast,

it's good for my business. Like if I can have AMD and Intel bidding against each other for like who wants to market their CPUs the hardest because, you know, the performance is close. So it all comes down to marketing. Hey, I win just saying. That's why I say. I remember, I forget when it was.

I did a video about this a while back. But that's why I always say, guys, you got to look at whoever's talking to you. You got to look at whatever motivation they have. For me, I'm pretty transparent. I am highly motivated by succeeding in my business and by being a computer nerd. You can pretty much explain most of my actions by those two things. And the bottom line is, for my business,

I cannot screw with you guys because my business doesn't exist without you. And as a computer nerd, I can't screw with you guys because I've been helping people pick the right parts for their computers since before anybody even gave me a paycheck for it. But that doesn't mean that I'm not all about my business growing and making money and continuing to offer career development opportunities for the people who have hitched their carts to my horse. So I am all about it being absolutely cutthroat in the computer industry. I love it.

I want the most brutal competition possible because it's good for me in every possible way. Everything that motivates me, I win if there's intense competition. And so do you you by the way do you think this is the first major move and i know they have made many moves so i'm using major quite specifically do you think this is the first actual major move that they've made to combat amd no What I suspect is that, because, I mean, I've already seen other things. I mean, those cryo coolers.

Maybe they're a clumsier, a clumsier effort to combat AMD. But they're really cool. Do you know the details of them? Does it seem major, though? No, no, no. Okay. What's major about that

is that that project is crazy it makes no sense so kind of like counterculture to what they've been doing for a long yes okay yeah no i agree with that that makes yes yeah i'm on board so it's like i haven't it's not the fire but it smells like smoke you know what you know what i mean there's a there's a fire under intel's butt and i can smell the intel butt smoke fire smoke um and those kinds of projects those kinds of like yeah we took some smart people and we locked them in a room and we said go make some crazy stuff and they came back and they were like here's our crazy stuff and we were were like, green light, let's go. That is an attitude shift that we needed to see from them. And that I believe is actually happening. They have lost

some key talent, no doubt. But the thing about key talent is that it attracts key talent. You know, okay, think about it this way. We have people on our team at Linus Media Group that members of our community admire. If we didn't have people like, you know, an Alex or Anthony or Jake or Riley or James, like if we didn't have this team that is already perceived as like superstars, then the quality of our applicants, whenever we put out a job posting, I guarantee you is lower because we have people talk about how exciting it would be to work shoulder to shoulder with these guys. So it's, it's a, it's a snowball effect. The more you can bring on talented team members, the more other like smart, talented team members, the more other smart, talented people are going

to be like, gee, there must be something to this. You know what? If you spend so much of your life working, you would probably aspire to try to be in an environment that would inspire and drive you forward, etc., etc. So that's going to be the type of stuff that you're going to try to push for. Exactly, exactly. That's why a brain drain is something that is not easy to stop.

It's not something you can just throw more money at. It's not that simple. So I'm really excited. I'm hoping for a big comeback here because I want to see competition for all the various reasons that I love it. And I think it's time to move on to our next topic. Google has threatened to pull out of Australia over the new link tax laws. Luke, do you want to run us through this one? I've been talking a lot. I'm sorry. All right.

Big tech firms have been facing increased calls for regulations as profits soar. And Australia is looking to be the first to step up to the plate. We've been talking about this type of stuff for a long time now, but it's been kind of hit or miss and how it's going to be implemented. And I think one of the big reasons for that is because of the massive variance in terms of companies that operate on the internet. There's your Googles, there's your Facebooks, but then there's also your, you know, your float planes and your other stuff. There can only be one float plane. planes and your other stuff um there can only be one float plane yes australia's link tax law would make google facebook and other companies pay media outlets for linking to their news content

very interesting google and others in the industry have said the law would be unworkable and leave them with no other choice but to leave the country. Australian lawmakers respond by accusing Google of blackmail with PM... I didn't actually see that coming. With Prime Minister Scott Morrison saying they would not yield to threats. Wow. Interesting.

I guess leaving the country is a threat. I mean, kind of. Is PIA a sponsor of this stream? I don't know. Does it matter? Well, they are now. If this becomes a thing and Google pulls out, you could use PIA and still use Google. Yeah.

Australian newspaper revenues have been dropping steadily since the late 2000s. You could probably, I would assume, put any country at the beginning of that sentence, and it would probably be true. Australia sees financial support for its news industry as vital to democracy if the law passes probably in a lot of ways yeah because the the more news outlets go under yep the more it's going to simmer down to less sources of information if that makes sense yep you're gonna have less less potential views on a topic which is not good you want more reviewers uh whether it's news articles or or more perspectives is healthy yeah yes according to lawmakers news accounts for an eighth of google searches in australia while australia isn't google's largest market by a

pretty massive amount i I would say. Google is fearful for what precedent this might set. And that's pretty legit because I'm sure other countries are going to look at how effective this ends up being or doesn't end up being, especially places like the EU, which are very... Pretty regulation happy. Pretty regulation happy and pretty on the forefront of digital regulation, I would say. Yeah. Which a lot of countries are still not necessarily stepping in on. Last week, Google piloted a program blocking news sites from search results for 1% of Australians to test the value of Australian news services.

Ouch. Dang. What a way to put it. That's savage. Google and Facebook argue that news organizations get the benefit of their platforms driving readers to their websites. They report that the comparative revenue is tiny. Google says just 7.7 million out of 3.7 billion total in Australia over 2019. Jeez.

James has a take on this. He says this will only lead to information siloing where Facebook will introduce a search engine to search for news uploaded to Facebook, evading the tax, similar to how people search on Amazon instead of shopping the web more broadly. Yeah.

Yikes. That actually makes sense. This is pretty funny. This is James's take. I actually don't necessarily agree with it 100%. He says, also, just f*** you, news media. Do you know what it's like to post something and get zero traffic? It sucks.

Consider yourself lucky. Okay. So I think he's still a little salty about getting banned on twitter do you know about this do you hear about this i i heard about it i didn't know the details behind it but i did hear about it okay so james checked his twitter page one day and was like wait what james tweeted at colton because they were kind of sniping back and forth on twitter about something he was just like i'll kill you and twitter flagged it as like a death threat and suspended his account and he has since reached out to twitter and been like hey that guy is my friend and colleague i'm not i wasn't actually threatening to kill him um obviously this was flagged by a bot

can can we can we please fix this uh i'm like i won't do that again but yeah can we please fix this no response get this james follows up and is like hey i sent in a ticket about this can we please have a human review it? Because as soon as a human looks at it, I think it'll be pretty clear that this is like my bud and I was just messing around with them. Someone got back to him and was like, hey, we haven't reviewed your original ticket yet. Like an actual human replied to his follow-up ticket just to tell him that no one had replied to his original ticket. It's like, right. Since you're looking at it, why don't you just look at it and then just fix it so that I don't have to send another ticket? Because it's non-trivial right like i think he's got like 30 40 000 followers

so it's not like it's just simple to god whatever i'll just create a new handle or whatever yeah exactly it's like he's an actual public figure so you'd think you guys would care a little bit and since you're looking at it since you're looking at it, since you're looking at it anyway, why not just fix it immediately? It's like, it's kind of like picking up something on the dining room table and moving it to the counter. You're just going to have to pick it up and put it in the dishwasher again. Why don't you just put it in the dishwasher? My wife said to me, because I definitely, she's making a face. I definitely, I definitely do that. And that doesn't change. The fact that I do it doesn't change that it's stupid. It is stupid,

but I just mean, I'm not being paid to put dishes in the dishwasher. Okay. Twitter's customer support person is presumably being paid. And, you know, you could argue that I do receive, you know, benefits from helping out around the house and, you know, being a good husband. You know, you could say that. See, she's nodding. She's nodding. She's like, yeah, yeah, totally. You get benefits for that.

And I'm like, yeah, see, that's the kind of that's the kind of exchange, you know, you know, we have. It's like the man makes the money and the woman has her. Wow. You wouldn't. I've seen how far I could push this. You wouldn't believe the looks I'm getting right now. Love you, honey. Oh, man.

I feel like you should go on a story of your earlier dating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When she was the one who made literally all the money. And I was the college dropout that was living at her parents' house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When she was the one who made literally all the money and I was the college dropout that was living at her parents' house. Yeah. Oh, boy. And today's WAN show

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And you can try it for free at Pulseway.com or through our link in the video description. The show is also brought to you by LTTstore.com. It's not actually, but we do have some big news. Guess what, Luke? What? Guess what? What? We brought a sexy back, baby.

We finally have underwear in stock again. Our new supplier has come through and delivered underwear they're stealthier than ever before got just like a kind of a black rubber ltt on the waistband uh we've got a few new designs so like a more constellation inspired one a more like kind of looks kind of like matrix lines of binary kind of thing going on and then a completely stealth all black are included in the new pack and this is on top of our crew neck sweater being back in stock and then i think there was something else i was supposed to tell you guys about now hold on just a minute here i don't know i don't know how twitch's terms of service are right now but i i'm currently wearing those more

constellation-y looking ones oh yeah yeah how do you like the new ones good i like them yeah i like i like the uh i don't know how to describe it the kind of like tactile logos along the band because i feel like it it's like they have this type of feature in dress pants where it will like hold on to your clothes better oh there it is sorry sorry i was looking for a thing and i think i just found it no worries uh whoa hey oh what's this oh my what's this you got there what's that is that a is that a special edition hollow foil shirt you gotta be kidding me it is it. It's pretty sick. The GPU shirt.

Oh, I guess the stream is probably... Stream's probably a little delayed. So guys, now's a pretty good time to go check out lttstore.com. Get some underwear, get a shirt. It's gonna be all good in the hood. Speaking of all good, NVIDIA is...

Well, there's something. Earlier this week, NVIDIA is, well, there's something. Earlier this week, NVIDIA began changing some of the messaging around Max-Q. We've actually got a full video coming about this, so I'm not going to get into all the detail because there are certain time-related restrictions that affect how much information I can give you. You know what actually this is really easy I'm gonna sit here and I'm just gonna smile and Luke is gonna read this one because I am under NDA Nice, I like it. Luke doesn't know anything. I mean, okay, that's harsh Luke knows lots of things. He doesn't know anything about this.

He just knows what he's reading from Seth Digital on the forum and PC Gamer. Okay, go ahead, Luke. Seth Digital and PC Gamer. Earlier this week, NVIDIA began changing some of the messaging around Max-Q, planning to drop the GPU differentiating moniker for the upcoming RTX 30 GPUs for laptops.

They say that Max-Q has grown beyond only GPU optimizations. Oh, wow. So impressive. This led to speculation that NVIDIA was killing the Max-Q branding. But an NVIDIA rep told PC Gamer that the Max-Q branding is not going away. Okay. An NVIDIA statement reads, when we originally introduced Max-Q back in 2017, the brand was initially used in GPU naming

since Max-Q referred to the GPU TGP only. Today, third-generation Max-Q is broader and is a holistic set of platform technologies and design approach to building powerful and thin laptops. What the heck does that even mean? What does a holistic set of platform technologies and design approach to building powerful and thin laptops mean? Holistic set of platform technologies. So for those of you not following some of the lingo here, TGP is total graphics power. So that's how much of the total power budget of the laptop is allocated to the graphics card. But then it's a little more complicated than that,

which the full video will touch on. And it's also, it's like what your cooling system would have to be able to handle. Okay, so go ahead, Luke. Yeah, I'm not supposed to say anything. Shut up. NVIDIA is putting the onus on OEMs to properly advertise their laptops features moving forward.

Okay. This means that it's going to be up to end users to do the research to compare between options. OEMs may choose to adhere to NVIDIA's Max-Q guidelines or not. So the brand isn't technically dead. It may just be dying slowly. Max-Q and Max-P were perfectly good ways to distinguish the capabilities of laptop GPUs. This muddles the water for people comparing laptops as one 360, like one RTX 360, can be a completely different spec than the next 360. Interestingly, Max-P isn't actually an official term coined by NVIDIA. The community just started using the name

for Nvidia's full power mobile GPUs. Now the first time I heard it was not from the community. I actually heard it first from laptop makers. So I think it's more, it might originate more there, but it's hard to say exactly where it came from. It's just that, you know, Max-Q originally designed, originally was more than just like a GPU with a lower TDP or TGP, excuse me. Max-Q was like a requirement.

It had to be no louder than a certain amount, no thicker than a certain amount, and it had to offer performance over a certain amount. and it had to offer performance over a certain amount. So yes, the Max-Q product was the GPU, like the binned GPU that went in there to make that possible. But Max-Q was like a bigger, like it has an official blog post on nvidia.com. Max-P, even though I have heard NVIDIA staff use the term because it's so stupid, they don't have a term for it. Because like,

how are you supposed to call it? Just like RTX 30, RTX 30 max Q. Well, what is RTX 30? Is it the desktop one? Is it the mobile one? We don't know because they're just both called the same thing. Like, come on, who do you think you are? Apple just calling everything the same thing. And they've had so many differences over the last few years in terms of like how they're treating mobile GPUs and how, how equivalent mobile GPUs are to desktop GPUs and stuff. Exactly. Better differentiation would be good. The reason why I was excited about this at first was because I knew MaxP was kind of a muddy term.

Yeah. And I was like, oh, maybe they're like moving on and like using something more properly defined. But no, it seems like they're moving on and using something more properly defined. But no, it seems like they're moving on and using something less properly defined. And I will say this much, it gets much worse. Don't miss the video. Oh boy. It gets way more complicated.

I'm not saying, you know, whether RTX 30 is a good or a bad product, it has nothing to do with that at all. I'm just saying it's complicated. It's going to be complicated. Well, I don't have any more information. So I think you guys will just have to tune in again later on that more specific video.

In other news, the Raspberry Pi Foundation launches a $4 Pi Pico. $4. How do you make a computer for $4? So epic. I don't even understand it. No, you can't even get like the socket of an Epic motherboard for $4. Yeah, it's fair.

So the Pi Pico is the first in-house designed microcontroller from the Raspberry Pi Foundation. Typically, hobbyists will pair the Raspberry Pi with microcontrollers for real-world applications due to the Pi not being great at low latency IO interfacing. Like all Raspberries devices, the Pico has extensive documentation

aimed at both experienced power users and new tinkerers, and features an in-house designed RP2040 processor built on a 40 nanometer process. It's got dual ARM Cortex N0 pluses clocked at 133 megahertz, 264 kilobytes of embedded memory with support for up to 16 megs of off-chip flash memory, a USB 1.1 controller. Okay, so it's not cutting edge. More nerd specs are listed on the blog post. Actually, I'm very curious. I'm headed for the nerd specs. Look at this thing. Holy smokes. It is tiny. Whoopsie daisies. Sorry about that, guys. It is flipping tiny. I'm going to scroll a little

bit to actually get to the Pi Pico. Look at it. It's a tiny, it's a tiny boy. It's like, there's a little like display, like a little project display right next to it. That is, that is sick. Okay. So here's some of these, here's some of these nerdy speeds and feeds. 30 GPIO pins for which can be used as analog inputs. Okay. That's pretty sweet. analog inputs. That's pretty sweet. TV controller, 16 PWM channel, USB mass storage, boom. Oh, okay, cool.

Yep, that makes sense. Cool. A lot of people seem very interested in the analog inputs, which is really cool. Yeah, that's a big deal. Something I would point out with something like this is like, yeah, a lot of the modern computing that we do, especially in the RAM department, I would say, a lot of the modern computing that we do, especially in like the RAM department, I would say has kind of ballooned a lot. And like what you're going to do on a

computer or a laptop or a phone, et cetera, is going to be very heavy. But the things that you can use computers like this for, like you read out those specs and you're like, oh, that sucks. But it still has USB functionality at all, which is actually extremely useful if you're like oh that sucks but it still has usb functionality at all which is actually extremely useful if you're doing more specialized smaller tasks like doing doing basic things hasn't necessarily gotten more difficult especially if you're like developing specifically for it or if it's something very specific that you're going to have it always you want an auto waterer for your like plants it doesn't need more you don't need a xeon you know yeah it's okay you're good you're good so 133 megahertz and a usb 1.1 controller and 264 kilobits of uh embedded memory is probably completely fine for like there you go

you heard it here first you heard this it. That's the next famous quote. What was it? 256 kilograms. Well, it ought to be enough for anyone. Luke Lafreniere, 2021. There's a ton of projects that you can accomplish with that much, and you don't necessarily need more. And I think the art of accomplishing as much as you can with what you have

has kind of died a little bit. Like I remember watching, just say min maxing, Luke, you know, you want to, yeah.

The min maxing, your hardware has died a little bit. I know like watching gaming documentaries from a long time ago, watching game developers talk about like min maxing the position of data on a disc. Yep. Oh yeah, for sure.

So that the head is more likely to be closer to that part of the actual disc itself so that the next data it needs is right in line. Yeah. That stuff is crazy. And it was actually something that people did. And you had to really fight a lot to fit within these crazy confines.

And yes, that is still a thing. Consoles are a... I'm not trying to drag on consoles, but consoles are a more measured metric. You know more what you're dealing with. But we don't really see that many crisis-style games come out anymore. I think it's much less common for a game to come out and everyone that wants that game to go rush out

and do massive computer upgrades so they can actually play it like i i genuinely know people that are running processors that are like nine to ten ten generations old that are still running new modern titles just fine now to be crazy to be clear it's like more of uh it's more of a micro controller than like an actual computer like you wouldn't go you wouldn't go load up raspbian on this even like that's no but what i'm saying is you can still accomplish a lot with it absolutely and it's cool that i don't know i like the idea of working with those confines and being able to accomplish great things anyways. It seems like the entire YouTube chat has no idea what a live stream is. It's kind of amazing. Twitch chat and float plane are both just like, yes, we understand what's going on. Entire YouTube chat is like disliked due to clickbait. We talked about that topic an

hour ago. It's a live stream. It was literally the first thing we talked about that topic an hour ago. It's a live stream. It was literally the first thing we talked about. Lordy. It's not the entire video. It's the WAN show. It's in the title. Oh, man. After all these years.

I mean, how long have we been doing the WAN show, Luke? Like seven years or something? Yeah, somewhere around there and you come on people help me out lmg's at eight years now yeah geez it's crazy it's crazy uh speaking of lmg being at eight years uh we still have job listings up for our full-time bookkeeper slash accountant whatever we end up with full-time video editor slash camera op uh floatplane has a full-time developer and web design contractor position up on linusmediagroup.com uh just because we get a little bit more traffic there um do you want to talk about the developer position just a little bit since we've got all these people watching?

Yeah, the developer position is somewhat generalized. You will probably end up working on a wide variety of things as we are a small team. And that just kind of happens when you are among a small team. job will be developing, implementing, researching, et cetera, features or implementing currently existing features from tools available on the Shopify store for lttstore.com. We are specifically looking for someone to dedicate to that. So experience working with Shopify, experience working with e-commerce platforms, experience working with JavaScript, et cetera, et cetera, is all very sought after for that position. So if you are interested in that, please feel free to go to the form, enter your information and apply. And the designer position is for just like the websites that we kind of overlook in general. So fullplane.com,

lttstore.com, potentially other jobs. Um, it's not a full-time position. It would be job by job. Um, so it is remote. Um, we, we are able to hire from kind of wherever's for that because it is very job by job specific. Um, Canadian would be a plus, but it is remote. And yeah, that's about it. So we got a couple more job postings here as well. We need a full-time junior design slash manufacturing engineer and a full-time retail product and inventory manager. Apply at linusmediagroup.com.

I think we've got at least one more topic to talk through here. This is pretty sweet. Video Cards did an article on the VIC-ON-YT. Is that what this channel is actually called? Oh, lordy, this is... Okay, that is Russian AF. I absolutely love it.

At least I hope that's Russian. love it. At least I hope that's Russian. It could be another sort of whatever those types of languages are called. Cyrillic? Yeah, Cyrillic characters. I don't know. Anyway, the point is, the YouTuber successfully modified an RTX 2070 to have 16 gigs of VRAM instead of the standard 8. After accessing leaked NVIDIA PCB diagrams for the 2080 SKU, he replaced the old Micron models with Samsung modules and then changed the resistors into a different binary code for the RAM CFG jumpers. The modified card works and actually registers successfully as 16 gigs VRAM. However, there was a significant performance loss, at least in 3DMark Time Spy.

So the average 2070 score is 9,100 points and his 16 gig card got 6,100 points. So it's a little significant there and it's unstable and quickly fails in Furmark. But, similar modifications can apparently be made to a few other Nvidia GPUs to double the standard VRAM. The 1050 and 1050 Ti can go from 2 to 4 gigs, the 1060 can go from 3 to 6 gigs, and it should be noted this does not work with the 1070, 1080, or 1080 Ti. If you want to modify your own 2070 because you like voided warranties and worse performance and instability, Samsung's 16 gig GDDR6 modules can be found on AliExpress for roughly 200 US dollars. That is to say 16 gigs

worth of Samsung GDDR6 modules. I think that card has eight chips, so it would be two gigabytes per module. Don't, don't quote me on that. I can't remember off the top of my head. Fascinating. Twitter accused of profiting from child pornography. James posted this. I wonder if he has a bone to pick with Twitter. No, I'm just kidding, James. A minor boy and his mother are suing Twitter, alleging that it benefited from and neglected to remove an exploitative video featuring him and another minor,

which was retweeted thousands of times and has at least 167,000 views on the platform. The lawsuit claims that the minor and mother repeatedly contacted Twitter about the content, but Twitter allegedly didn't suspend accounts distributing it until a federal agent from the Department of Homeland Security intervened. Good that they banned James, though. Yeah. According to the filing, one or multiple traffickers tricked the boy into providing explicit images to a Snapchat account he was led to believe belonged to a 16-year-old girl.

After obtaining the explicit content, the traffickers allegedly blackmailed the boy into providing the video that ultimately spread on Twitter. A Twitter spokesperson told Fox News, Twitter has a zero-tolerance policy for any materials that feature or promote child sexual exploitation. We aggressively fight online child sex abuse and have heavily invested in technology and tools to enforce our policy. Okay.

Apparently not enough. Filing also details communication between John Doe, his mother, and Twitter. One email shows Twitter telling, this is the boy, that on January 28th that it reviewed the content and didn't find any violation of our policies, so no action will be taken at this time. What do you mean you don't see a problem? The miner asks in response that same day.

We are both miners right now, and were miners at the time these videos do you mean you don't see a problem? The minor asks in response that same day. We are both minors right now and were minors at the time these videos were taken. We both were 13 years of age. Wow. What did the video... What was it? I mean, I'm not going to go watch it. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't want to either. But like if they're saying it didn't... I don't know you either but like if if they're saying it didn't i don't know yeah i mean this is the kind of thing that's like uh if i don't want to see it yeah i definitely don't want it in my internet history if it actually is 13 year olds you know doing explicit stuff on video um so there you go good luck uh john doe boy and mother in your um in your campaign here because if that went down the way that you say it went down that is super a plus not okay for twitter the safer way to deal with a situation like this would just be to at the very least temporarily pull it down while you evaluate you i'm sure that i'm sure that could lead to bad situations where people are like using your automated tools to censor things and whatnot

but i feel like that would be a better result maybe i don't know well the problem is that once twitter pulls something they evidently don't have any way to restore it like james's account oh geez all right side note thing yeah people are saying that the uh the the link for the designer job doesn't work uh this happened with another one of the job postings as well i don't know why why. If you click on it, it doesn't work. But if you copy-paste it, it does. I think there's something weird going on with the Squarespace link thingy. So, yeah, just copy-paste it for now. I think there's some way that Colton was able to fix the previous one,

so I've messaged him, and I'm sure he'll look into this one. Oh, shoot, I just emailed him. him well it's too late sweet uh we've got some super chats it's not too late for those that's uh freaking awesome uh i don't know why people send them but they do akash says kirk or picard i need to know luke help me out here kirk or picard? Skywalker. Star Wars? We both did it. I want a real answer, Luke. Don't even give me that. I won't take it. I don't know.

Won't take no Rey. Have you watched much? I mean, I watched... I've probably seen a solid 120th of the episodes of each series. So I've seen like probably... Well, okay, no, I've probably seen more than that, because I think there actually weren't that many episodes of the original Star Trek. I was a kid though. So I haven't watched it since then. I do definitely like know enough about the show just because I have my eyes open and my ears not buried in sand. the show just because I have my eyes open and my ears not buried in sand. So like I get the jokes,

you know, like the red shirts and, you know, the many emotions of Spock, you know, poster where he's just like, and I know that that's actually not Spock because he does have emotions. It's this whole part of his whole characters. he has this mix of logic and emotion, his human and Vulcan side, blah, blah, blah. I know kind of enough to get by, but I wouldn't consider myself a Trekkie by any stretch of the imagination. I definitely watched more, like by numbers, more episodes of The Next Generation. I remember thinking when I was a kid that Dr uh dr crusher was probably called dr crusher because you were supposed to you know think she was pretty sweet um i actually wonder if maybe my

tastes were very strange as a kid i don't even know what she looks like anymore amount that i have seen i would probably say picard you'd say picard i think so okay well there's your answer ladies and gentlemen but i have seen very very little and have never pursued it at all because there's so much star wars content to consume and i like it a lot so i just do that do you still like it it keeps beating you and you keep coming back to it i just keep going back to older stuff what older stuff expanded universe oh just like books yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's fair enough all right yeah there was a time when star wars was good uh robert male says took a bit but the whole house has good wi-fi on the other hand choosing a bidet like james suggested has been a bit of an experience never thought fancifying my toilet would be one of the toughest decisions and expensive too okay uh dal sims says luke what changes have you made to floatplane live streaming in australia

is working amazing now it used to stutter heaps. When? Well, I don't know, do I? Yeah, I don't know. All right. There's been lots of changes made. There's been lots of changes made to live streaming. There's been lots of changes made to everything else. It just depends on what your timeline is. Alex and Simba says,

Luke, please convince Linus to do a Haptic Gaming Vest video part two. There are lots more products now on the market. Okay, do you even use your VR setup? I got to know. I do sometimes. Are you even an enthusiast anymore, Luke? My area is very bad. In order to properly use my setup,

I would have to move a very large amount of furniture. And even then, it wouldn't be great and at the previous place i was at if i put my hands over my head i would punch the ceiling that is no longer a problem here here i can't move i can't go in any direction which is just like a different are we ready to tell people where you lived at your previous place yet like is it far enough removed that we can be like yeah yeah i mean i don't think there's anything all right where did you live previously luke i used to live below the office some people knew that um there was there was a few community members that knew that. And for literally years, and I will always appreciate this and owe them for this, just ran, like there was a small group of them that all had this constant conversation going on to help deflect and push people away from the idea that I did live there.

Because they all knew that, but they used that information to like drive this thing that I didn't. But yeah, I lived below the office. It was fantastic. My commute was walking up the stairs. Sometimes he didn't make it. Yeah. It was really interesting whenever I'd be sick,

because I'd be like laying in bed bed listening to Linus record videos upstairs. We had lots of problems with dishes. People would actually go down into Luke's basement suite, take his dishes, use them, leave them in the upstairs sink and then like just not acknowledge that they did it. Like there's a reason there's a channel super fun video about like finding the dishes thief or whatever but like there's so much more that went on behind the scenes that you guys don't know about that led up to that being something that was like such a big issue we made a video about it and like it's that much of an inside joke it was such a weird problem too because like i would not have minded at all if people use my stuff but like to go down into my space and just

take my things and then leave them dirty what are you doing i don't know and there were so few people at the company at the time that it's like who do you think you're fooling he's like three or four people yeah i know it wasn't me i'm pretty sure it wasn't him because if it was him it would just be at his desk he wouldn't bother to dump it in the sink yeah or or like downstairs in the actual sink yeah in his sink we had two sinks obviously um and then one of the other funny ones for me is that like luke's house you know right was the only place once we grew a little bit more it was the only place in the building that we had like sort of a private meeting room so the first year that we did like annual employee reviews i was like so luke um can we do this in your like like living room and he's like

i guess sure yeah i mean it's your house i guess uh so i'm sitting so i'm sitting in luke's living room under my office in my house giving luke his like annual employee performance review which we've never done before because it seemed like you know like such a formal thing and we'd always just been like kind of like broing out and making videos about tech up till that point i'm just like i think i probably opened it up with like this is the most awkward thing that i've ever had to do yeah that was a that was an interesting time oh man um all right what else we got it was pretty useful too though because like there would be certain things like i remember we wanted to do an ambient sound test of something yeah so that was like way easier because I just waited until everyone was gone.

And then just like went and set up the test and then went downstairs and just like did whatever. Yeah. And it didn't matter that like, oh, I need to go check it in like half an hour or something because like it takes me seconds to go upstairs. It's really not a big deal. Yeah, it was kind of helpful. He was our built-in security guard too. Because I'm pretty sure Luke would have bashed in the skull of someone who tried to take like my cpus probably i'm glad it never happened because like canada's got some pretty messed up laws around like defending your own property it's pretty stupid yeah yeah pretty dumb yeah um okay what else we got going on here

blah blah blah blah blah oh this is when luke was full freeloader oh yeah it was real cheap well there it was a symbiotic relationship right right? Right. Because like giving him a benefit in terms of rent makes his life more affordable, which makes it so that he doesn't just like need more salary. Like if I was like, Luke, you can't live here. He's going to be like, well, to maintain the same standard of living that I enjoy, you should probably pay me X amount more. Like he's that kind of person, trust me. And, And aside from that, the benefit to me of having him there at the office is that whenever I can't get in touch with him,

I know where he lives. No, no, I'm just kidding. The benefit to me is like actually having him on site was really, really useful. I slept better at night knowing that like Luke was there. I mean, he's a pretty deep sleeper actually. So if someone did break in in it's very likely that he wouldn't have noticed but if he did notice having a mayor i would definitely notice that

oh yeah that's true if the alarm went off you would have you would have noticed that but having luke there was actually a huge benefit for the company and absolutely worth like the discount on rent and he did pay rent it's not like it was just a total freeloader situation he did not pay enough for it yeah so that was that was part of that was part of what helped luke save up for that down payment i'm pretty sure yeah um kinestic over on uh in the super chat says, uh, wow. Okay. You don't need to send. Oh, okay.

It's Australian dollars. I was like, wow, you don't need to send like 50 bucks, but it's like not real dollars. Um, as an Aussie, most people are actually on Google's side. These laws are entirely driven by Murdoch media who owns about 70% of all Australian media. Uh, there's a good seven minute, uh, video on the opening shots of this fight and sent a link, but I'm not going to click it because I'm on like my own stream right now but apparently it's seven minutes so you should be able to find it I think that is pretty much it for the WAN show today I want to thank you guys for tuning in we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. If you haven't already got one, you got to go to

lttstore.com and you gotta get the good LTT store stuff. We got the new boxers, we got them, they're here. So we got the new boxers, we also got the absolutely sick, I think Sarah did a great job of the design for this one, sick new GPU core shirt. So we're calling it hollow foil gpu core t-shirt it's pretty sweet it's very shiny by the way some people in the floatplane chat are putting together um certain events now that make more sense that makes sense what are you guys talking about one of them was they figured out the uh the office like theft prank thing they're like oh that makes way more sense now because like

they're like why would he have been there the day before it's like yeah because we like robbed my house because he lived there yeah yeah exactly exactly uh nick van berkel at the time went to go like chase the the thief or whatever and he like ran downstairs i like went to go follow him because i'm like i'm probably gonna have to open this door yeah oh man yeah that's great all right love you guys float plane chat you guys. Floatplane chat. You guys are the real MVPs. Dell update? I don't have one.

I haven't heard back yet. So it might be that this person was not able to put together the materials proving that they actually can prove what they said they can prove. So. All right. That's it. Outro time! so all right that i said outro time oh i thought you ran it i was waiting until after the outro to say bye bye

the stream's so far behind that like i can't really tell. See, now I get to see myself react to that now. That's great.