The WAN Show - Intel Messed Up - WAN Show June 24, 2022

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

Get three months of Gusto FREE at: https://gusto.com/wan Get Exclusive NordSecurity deals here: https://nordsecurity.com/wan All products are risk-free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee! Get 20% off your first Mack Weldon order at mackweldon.com/wanshow and promo code "wanshow"  Timestamps: (Courtesy of NoKi1119 - Note: Timestamps may be off due to change in sponsors) 0:00 Chapters 1:18 Intro 1:51 Topic #1 - Intel's Arc early review 2:44 Performance compared to competitors 6:43 Thoughts on the naming scheme 9:54 Nvidia's impact on GPU box arts 12:30 The graphic's potential ft. Linus agreements 15:08 Support for AV1, YouTube's HDR & suggestions 22:18 Topic #2 - Leaked TikTok audio, data privacy 24:42 Impact on the internet, cybersecurity risks 29:11 LTTStore HDD hoodie, notebook & discounts 36:26 Topic #3 - Amazon's Alexa voice cloning 37:37 Deepfake Linus, ethicality & security risks 45:44 Sponsors 49:28 Merch Messages #1 ft. side discussions 50:16 Inovelli's "Project Linus" 54:24 Bidding on Artesian Builds, Linus's pitch 58:19 Linus bricks a Linux install before ShortCircuit 1:01:21 Steam summer sale, Linus on game displays 1:12:23 400 Stealth hoodies sold, games discussion 1:14:05 What happened to the Blackmagic cameras 1:15:03 Mattress suggestion 1:15:46 Was LTT ever compromised? LMG's finances 1:22:43 Biohacking, RFID implants 1:25:51 Possible LTT handtools after the screwdriver 1:25:58 Topic #4 - PCIE 70 standard 1:26:18 Specifications Do we really need this? 1:29:11 Topic #5 - Lab acoustics update 1:30:28 Crinacle's & chat's response to LMG's video 1:40:57 Priority for lab testing & hiring 1:42:34 Merch Messages #2  1:42:43 ARM processors, emulating X86 for gaming 1:43:43 Best way to handle a hot PC during the summer 1:44:47 Secure alternative for port-forwarding to NAS 1:46:44 Linus's remote hardware configuration 1:48:41 What happened to the $1 million computer series? 1:49:13 Screen protector creases on Linus's Fold 1:51:11 Unified doorbell 1:52:12 Matter smart home feature 1:52:40 Would Luke consider another mineral PC 1:54:42 eLeap OLED technology 1:55:34 Manufacturers moving to smart bulbs, cybersecurity 1:56:00 Aya Neo 2, AIR, Flip & Slide 1:57:06 Machining a solid block of acrylic 1:59:42 Linus & Luke on Steam Deck, comparing to Aya Neo 2:01:17 Recent books to read, Linus discusses reading 2:02:40 Removing the protector on Fold 3 2:04:55 Long-term hearing loss when sleeping with headphones 2:07:45 Linus's decision on the main TV & monitors 2:09:38 Test driving electric motorcycles, Linus's SV650S 2:13:27 Motivation behind switching from Hangouts to Teams 2:16:22 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Apparently, that's a main one, So I guess we'll talk about that. What else we got? Also, a response to Clinical. Clinical. I hope I'm saying that name correctly. But Clinical. And yeah, in regards to featured main topics, we're out of them now.

So we're diving into the other ones. And I'm going to say GitHub github co-pilot i don't know i have a few things to say about that it costs ten dollars now or a hundred a year there you go and it's more widely available question mark i thought sort of everyone had access to it before but maybe not uh but yeah now it's more generally available and it costs money that was basically the whole topic way to no there's more to it man we gotta talk about it for like at least 60 seconds why don't we jump right into our first topic of the day which is that the early reviews for intel arc graphics are not looking good you know we talked about this yeah way back at the height of the gpu shortage we were like man intel, Intel's got to ship these GPUs now

because even though we know they've been delayed and we know that they might not be on par with the best from AMD and Nvidia right out of the gate, you know, first generation woes, right? If they managed to ship something today, it's an automatic W because the pricing for everything else is so utterly ridiculous that

they couldn't possibly look like idiots and yet their timing was like hilariously bad yeah because the market just tanked which is great to be very clear yeah great for gamers not great for intel necessarily um overall performance for the entry-level alchemist gpu looks like the gtx 1650 super or radeon rx 6400 in most real world tests and it's often beaten out by its competitors now strangely it seems to perform much better in synthetic benchmarks but unless your name is oh i don't know kingpin you probably don't care that much about synthetic benchmarks and you want to play actual real games in what appears to be intel's reviewers guide the only times that this was not the case in Intel's own internal testing were Nikara Blade Point, where it beat the 1650 Super by 2 FPS and the RX 6400 by 6 FPS, and Nizhan, where it got 200 FPS

across the board. I have never heard of either of those games you guys will have to forgive me for being such an ignorant ignorant gamer okay so i'm just looking into this it's nakara or naraka oh naraka sorry excuse me naraka blade point looks like a very highly rated game it looks quite no it's not that new. I see a Naraka Blade Point Xbox launch trailer from one day ago. But then it also says initial release date, August 11th, 2021. So I have no idea. But I think this is a NetEase game. So I wouldn't be too surprised if this is more popular in the market that they're launching the GPU in.

And I assume that might be the same with Nissan as well. So that might be what's going on. I am kind of wondering if it's performing well in synthetics, but not in games. I wonder if it does well in like research applications and stuff. I mean, I can't say anything that I know. Gotcha. All I can say is whatever's here yeah so my drivers

attested against the gtx 1050 ti with their aggregate results looking like uh the 1050 ti being about 77 percent of the a380s performance that's kind of a yikes the 1650 d D6 being about 10% faster than the A380 and the RX 6400 being about 10% faster. Now we should take early results with a grain of salt. Sort of. Because the fact that Intel's own reviewer's guide, their own guidance materials seem to suggest

that performance is going to be terrible, would add a lot of credibility to third-party testing that indicates performance is going to be terrible. Yeah, that's fair. However, it should be noted that the A380 is supposedly the i3, right? The 3 is the basic tier part of the arc range so it was never going to be competitive with you know a rtx 3080 or anything like that it's still a disappointing

first outing and honestly i'm a little surprised that intel is going entry level first given that the convention for at least the other two players and flagship launch duopoly is to launch with your flagship and then follow up actually amd doesn't really have any kind of method and honestly nvidia launches with a flagship but then a little bit later on launches another card that's better than it yeah well they're they're both kind of all over the place but in general in general it's a big boy. You're trying to set the tone for your new generation by launching your flagship card, taking the performance crown, looking like a big dog. You know, Intel, meanwhile, is like, hey, we have this thing. Here's the little one.

It's kind of not very good, but yeah. This is a slightly off topic, but what do you think of the naming scheme? Like the alchemist battle mage stuff and then i think it's sick the numbers afterwards you like um the numbers are fine if they really meant anything but as far as i can tell okay so a is obviously alchemist yeah right and as they release further series of gpus it seems fairly straightforward yeah they're gonna go through the alphabet yeah it's pretty it's pretty clear where they're going with that yeah three i dig it um what the only thing i don't like about the three is that it kind of bucks the rest of the industry's trend okay uh where the the

first number is the generation i see what intel's doing where the letter is the generation and honestly if they maintain this naming scheme, they'll probably have a more clear nomenclature than AMD and NVIDIA who just kind of seem to- Reset randomly and like skip random generations and- Yeah, I mean, they literally have multiple cards. AMD has multiple cards with the same four numbers, right? Like it's AMD maimedness. AMD has multiple cards with the same four numbers, right?

Like it's AMD-ness. AMD-ness? AMD used to do a March Madness promo called March AMD-ness. Yeah. So I was trying to figure out how you would pronounce AMD-ness. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The point is that I see where they're going with this, but it's a little bit confusing from a consumer perspective when we have an established, okay, the first number is the tier.

So now you've got, okay, no, no, no, the letter is the tier, and then we've got the next one is, sorry, the first number is the generation. So now we've got the letter is the generation, and then this next number is what tier of GPU it is. And it is with the other guys that the first number is the generation, and the second number is the performance tier, the performance class. Then it gets a little confusing for me. I mean, I haven't seen the entire Arc Alchemist lineup.

I don't know that Intel has officially announced the Intel Arc Alchemist lineup. Have they officially announced the whole lineup? These are apparently leaks. A350M. Hold on. Do we have just like a slide? Okay, here we go. I'll share my screen. We've got, these are, these appear to be all oh my goodness go away these appear to be mobile so we've got a350m a370m so that all kind of makes sense it's alchemist it's three tier and then it's either a 50 or 70 and then you've got it's pretty typical for these companies yeah to to leave an unused digit in case they ever want to do it's fine you know uh an a355 or something along those lines but yeah the funny thing about that to me anyway

is that more often than not they're going to end up using a suffix anyway pro xt gt gtx yeah or both so you're kind of sitting there going okay well you got to pick a lane you got to pick a lane which one is it yeah i like the yeah the the numbers part and i understand what you're saying with like the leaving the conventions for gpus and stuff i think there you have a point there i don't personally really care too much to be honest i actually really like the lettering and i like the names that go along with the lettering i think it's cool um i think a lot of stuff has gotten very serious over the years um like if you look at even just like gpu box art oh man now compared to back in the day what

nvidia has done to gpu box art is it should be a considered a crime yeah there it's all so samey now you guys know why right it's because nvidia forces it they have to approve the box art from their board partners so you'll you'll never see like cool box art anymore at least not in the north american region there's still some pretty out there like wacky colorful box art designs in other regions but they all have to adhere to nvidia's rules yeah they're just all so boring and sterile and like i i get it but it's it's i think it's kind of nice to just have some fun with it a little bit like alchemist battle mage like that's cool yeah i don't know sure why not and then i i like i like that they're just going along the alphabet because yeah it's really clear it's

clear within intel's own stack i do i do understand your point of deviating from the other ones i wonder how far in advance they've thought did they did they figure out the entire alphabet or are they going to be like google and sort of realize at some point okay we're running out of we're running out of desserts here ladies and gentlemen what are we gonna do we're okay okay new plan new plan we invented dessert then we name our next android after you know what it we're going back to just numbers okay i don't i don't know i i feel like intel would have planned it all out i feel like that would be an intel move i feel like i might have said something like that until back when Intel transitioned their Xeon branding to this whole gold, silver, bronze, platinum nonsense that means absolutely nothing with respect to performance or the application that that particular chip is intended for. So no, Luke, I really do not think they thought it out.

I had this thought like a while ago. know luke i really do not think they thought it out i had i had this thought like a while ago it wasn't like i mean like a couple weeks ago of like you know like we dog on companies for like bad naming schemes all the time i should make sure that like i i say good things about the next one that's actually good and then then you bring that up yeah no it's pretty so that was horrible it was pretty rough that was a complete failure it was pretty rough it was trash i mean should we talk about the core 2 duo and then the core 2 quad is it two or is it four come on guys i mean admittedly that was a while ago now that's yeah it's pretty old but yeah anyways it's looking like it's gonna be pretty rough there are still ways that intel could redeem

themselves if they're super useful outside of gaming then hey maybe that's uh that's part of the value proposition if their power consumption is extremely low maybe that's part of the value proposition we also haven't seen their sick cards yeah like if these are competing with like 50 series cards like these aren't a lot of the cards that people would be buying to really push for gaming anyways so we'll have to see until they uh we'll have to see when they bring their big stuff out and to be fair i don't think that i could call this like a disappointment because i don't think anyone thought they were going to come out swinging super hard either i mean i think a lot of people were hoping hoping for it yeah especially fair enough during the shortage when gpu pricing was just pushing graph pushing gaming out of reach

yeah for a majority of people pc gaming was legitimately out of reach for a lot of people i had communications with a bunch of people over the last couple years that were like yeah i mean if my computer dies i'm just done yeah it's like yeah that's fair yeah for real it's too expensive unlike you they have to pay for hardware luke yeah no problem dude i still remember that conversation it was a great conversation do you even remember that conversation no so one time back when we were still working at ncx um you were nervous about something to do with the business and stuff. And you were talking to me about my compensation because my compensation was ridiculous because I was getting paid below minimum wage at the time. Yeah.

By NCIX. Yeah. Yeah. And you were like, all I can say is I'll make an agreement. If you keep working with me in whatever capacity, I'll always make sure you have a sick gaming machine. You did clarify that it's going to be not as good as yours. You made sure to get that in there. But you're like, I'll always make sure you have a computer.

And I was like, cool, I'm going to hold you to that. And yeah, every once in a while I bring it up. It's great. Well, I mean, I forgot about it and I've still done it. So I guess, you know, there you go. Yeah. It's been good. It's been good.

I love these like ancient agreements. They're fantastic. Yeah, man. I sure agreed to a lot of stuff back then. Jeez. It's good. Another thing that we know about Arc Alchemist

is that it's going to support both AV1 decoding and encoding. So it could be the only GPU you can buy today that will still be able to keep up in the video transcoding world

five, eight, ten years from now when av1 is prevalent yeah not now yeah i mean not now av1 is sort of not that not super um not super relevant today yeah but someday someday we hope oh speaking of someday we hope we uploaded a video a little while ago talking about the deplorable state of HDR support on YouTube. And I might have some bad news for you. Oh. I heard through the grapevine that that might have ruffled some feathers over at Google

and that they might actually be paying attention now to the problems that have... I mean, this is the kind of thing that... That's a good thing. Whatever. Well, I'll get to that. But it's the kind of thing that drives me crazy. Why do you need a high-profile influencer

to complain about something that is obviously broken? Why don't you just see that something is obviously broken and put it on the roadmap to fix it and you know i got a lot of flack for talking about this in the context of what was it i forget it was some other thing on on youtube or so oh the jasco situation i think was it jasco got flack for that i don't know someone else the point the point is i got flack for you know taking this you know why don't you fix things that are broken position do you remember what i'm talking about now no but i just realized why this is bad yeah um it's coming uh but i got a lot of flack for taking that position and when when we don't have our own house in order we

there's things we do wrong uh There's things that our development projects could do better. But you got to understand, like in the context, right? Google has literal armies, like literal armies of developers. And they're sitting working on pointless that nobody asked for

when core functionality is still broken. Or actively working to remove certain functionality. That's what's frustrating about it. That's what sucks. They're running all these experiments for features no one asked them for when just basic stuff is not working. I mean, you want to see something that's a joke?

I knew the app was going to come up, which is why I mentioned the removal of different functionalities. Here's a joke. This is great. Watch this. I can create a community post. Okay, look at this. I can put an image poll, a text poll.

I can write some text. I can put a picture. But heaven forbid. Hold on. Let's go to the Linus Tech Tips. How the devil do I just get to the channel from here? Okay. Community post. Wait, what? They work now? Holy crap. tech tips how the devil do i just get to the channel from here freaking okay community post

wait what they work now holy crap my community posts are working okay is that a problem with that phone hold on this is hilarious yeah yeah it doesn't work on to my knowledge any foldable phone hold on let's go ahead let's uh whoa okay all right it works hold on can I post a story Nope still can't do that Alright nevermind So yeah still can't post stories It's been over two years I've reported it many times

As far as I can tell it's just like a switch they need to flip In the tablet version of the app But they don't They don't do that Where was I going with this So they're finally paying attention to HDR, which would be amazing because it is legitimately a better viewing experience

when done right. There are still some things they need to fix. For example, on Android, HDR will just yoink your brightness control. Sort of. I mean, this is pretty funny. Watch this. So I'm gonna pull up an HDR videodr video okay so you can see if i oh stop so you can see if i do this here i'll do it like this and go full screen right

okay so that's clearly very hdr and i go and i try to edit my brightness and be like no no dog you're not going to be editing your brightness but but but watch this watch this it's as simple as going like this playback doesn't even stop it switches to an sdr or or a tone mapped version of the hdr grade and i can adjust my brightness. Okay, so Google, here's an idea free of charge. If I go to the effort to swipe down and go like this, why don't you just do that? And then have a toggle where I can switch it back to HDR mode here or other idea free of charge.

Let me just pick not hdr in the quality drop down then it solves it because it's it would be really hard for us to fully commit to hdr and upload all of our videos in hdr until there's some way that people who don't want to have their retinas burned off in the middle of the night when they're trying to watch in bed um for us to have some way for them to enjoy the content as well it's just going to be impossible for us to do that uh people are saying hdr yoinks brightness on ios 2 lol at linus at luke um i don't think that was the point but i'm not sure we'll see whatever he's doing I have no idea I didn't know this topic was even going to be a thing of the show Hold on a second

I'm pretty sure you're wrong Here's an HDR video Here it is that's definitely Very HDR And there's your brightness control So I don't know what you're talking about Oh Nope confirmed

No that is not a thing as usual apple does color better than anyone else because they just care as far as i can tell like it's it's one of those things apple has plenty of you guys could do this right but instead you engineered the wrong solution color is not one of those things cool all right what's the bad part well we can't have hdr on youtube and not have it on floatplane yeah i thought so all right sounds good we've done it before it's just really rough yeah but i guess we'll try to clean that up is it like clean up a bull um yes but without hiring a bunch of people, that's the fun part. Yay.

Okay. I'm technically, well, I'm done now. Actually, I'm done. The first stage of backend developer interviews. We still have to do technical interviews and stuff.

We're starting next week. Um, but yeah, so I could, I could pluck people from there. Could happen. All right. What's next?

Well, I think we're going to have to talk through this Buzzfeed news, listened to TikTok, listened to us topic. Oh yeah. So everything that you thought was happening is happening. How did this manage to make it into the doc when we don't have anything about the nothing phone in here? I actually have not been keeping up with that. So I don't know. Maybe we'll let you guys just live talk to us about what's exciting about the nothing phone.

And we'll just we'll parrot it back to you. You guys will run the WAN show. In the meantime, BuzzFeed News. Listen to TikTok. Listen to us last friday buzzfeed reported that despite assurances from bite dance that information gathered about users in the u.s is stored in the u.s china-based employees have repeatedly accessed non-public data about u.s tiktok users TikTok users. What? Stunning. What? I can't believe this is happening. No! No! By dance!

I can't believe it! No one would have guessed. No one saw this coming. We've been blindsided! Whatever will we do? The leaked audio recorded 80 internal meetings with China-based employees through last fall to

the new year. In one of the recordings, a member of TikTok's trust and safety department is quoted as saying, everything is seen in China. What? Stunning. No! How would we have predicted this?

My shits! How could you? Sorry, sorry, sorry. Brandon comes in and investigates. What's happening? It's worth remembering That back in 2019 The US government It's like baby monitoring alarm

Is everything okay here The US government Began investigating TikTok's Chinese ownership National security implications And a year later The Donald threatened to Ban the app investigating TikTok's Chinese ownership's national security implications. And a year later, the Donald threatened to ban the app. Many of the recorded meetings focus on TikTok's response to that threat and their Project Texas, which would redirect protected data away from China.

ByteDance is negotiating a contract with Oracle to hold Americans' data in Texas, but what that protected data is, is still being negotiated. The recordings indicate it would not include public data, so profiles, posts, etc. Discussion question. Thank you, Jonathan Horst. How should countries regulate foreign social media platforms like TikTok or even Facebook? What sort of impact could substantive geographical data regulations have on the internet? Massive ones. I mean, basically the global internet as we know it could pretty much cease to exist. I mean mean we're already seeing this happen this already exists uh countries with essentially closed internet borders their own their own i mean

would you call it an intranet at that point i mean on that scale i guess it's still an internet internet yeah um yeah i Um, yeah, I, oh, there's, there's massive substantial, uh, impacts from, from doing this type of stuff. I think it's inevitable at this point, personally, I think it's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. I think that users will rebel.

I think that much like in China where vpn use is just considered if you're willing to run the risk anyway just part of life i think you'll just see people vpn their ways out to you know watch the bbc or participate on but i i think there's going to be some amount of uh effort to start kind of setting up fences uh because i think i think like if we if we look at the the the war in ukraine right now uh yeah one of the most immediate responses that happened um against russia was this just volley of cyber attacks into russia some coming back out for sure but like it was definitely mostly going into r. Yeah. Um, and one of the immediate threats that people were concerned about coming out of Russia, uh, was Kaspersky, right? Yeah. Russian developed antivirus software. Um,

people immediately got very suspicious of that. That's going to ramp up moving forward if I was a betting man. Right. And softwares and services and stuff developed in different countries that start becoming antagonistic with each other, whether that antagonistic nature becomes war or not. Yeah. I think it's kind of irrelevant. We're seeing this with China and the US right now over TikTok, right? They're not at war, but they're not exactly friends, right? And they're getting highly concerned about data and people using each other's applications and stuff like that. And sure, China has the firewall up, but countries that have more open policies and standards

when it comes to the internet don't. But I don't necessarily think that's going to survive.'m not saying it it should die off or it should survive i'm not saying anything like that i just i don't think it's going to survive that's all yeah kaspersky is currently banned in the u.s i think stuff like that is going to continue i think it's going to keep going floatplane chat suggests chat suggests can. Country area network. Yes, we can. Oh, boy. Yeah.

And I mean, we're seeing like mini versions of it, right? Like government and education institutions in Canada have to work with applications that store data in Canada. Right. Have to. Right. Which is data in Canada. Right. Have to. Which is very difficult for small startups because having like data silos in every single country you want to sell your software in can be difficult and expensive. Oh yeah, it would cost a fortune.

Yeah. So like it's very difficult. It's one of the ways that like during the pandemic when a lot of things went remote, Teams like blew up. Yeah. So like, it's, it's very difficult. It's one of the ways that like, uh, during the pandemic, when a lot of things went remote teams like blew up because teams has this ability to have data silos in countries. They had that already because there was already these regulations in place. Just a lot of places didn't really care or use it way too much. But then when, when remote work exploded, teams was already very well positioned to do that. Right. Um, And certain other companies

that didn't have that capability sort of fell off a little bit, or at least didn't have the same gain that companies that did have that capability had. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting. Cybersecurity is like a huge deal. And I think countries are going to start

getting more and more concerned about it moving forward. You know what else is a huge deal. And I think countries are going to start getting more and more concerned about it moving forward. You know what else is a huge deal? Our sponsors. I was going to actually get over to LTTstore.com. Because we have some new stuff to announce this week. A lot of new stuff. Actually, a lot of new stuff. The processor hoodie is getting a reprint alongside the hard drive hoodie.

This is a kind of fun, retro inspired design. Honestly, I think that no offense to our team. I think the color grade on this one is not ideal. It's not as you know what? It looks better on that monitor. Maybe it's not as you know what it looks better on that monitor maybe it's just this monitor okay well either way it's like a very neon pink and like a very vibrant green it's kind of very 90s inspired like uh blown up hard drive design on the back and then we are also

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everything i didn't actually want to rip it it's kind of cool little paper you can save this for gifts this is something that was pushed really hard by sarah so it's uh she's she's really into actual paper this one's kind of the the rgb ltd logo design uh if you want to i don't know like flip through it it's it's i mean it's paper all right you have your different rgb like a little page savers. Yep. It's lined. There's a lot of pages. I find a lot of notebooks don't come with this many pages. How is this like 234 pages or something?

Yes. 234 numbered pages, four index pages, three page markers, and it's 100 GSM lined white paper. This one though is my personal favorite. I'll get you to open up this one. Okay. This is the modern paper notebook. What makes it modern? Hold on. You got to show them the front. You got to show them the front. Oh yes. Very modern. Much electronic. There we go. I had to catch it in the light properly.

Sarah's also a huge fan of spot gloss. So if you ever see spot gloss on our packaging you'll know that she advocated for it ah whatever i'm ripping it it's all right now you're good you're good it's paper paper the paper was made to be ripped okay okay so if i take the little cover off of it you can see hopefully you're gonna have to catch the light again you're gonna have to work pretty hard to catch that one uh it's sort of showing up i swear to you in person it's pretty obvious it's very obvious because it's uh it's like uh it's embossed in dead yeah yeah there we go um but you can clearly see there's even like the power buttons and stuff as if it's a tablet hold on i'll just switch to my screen here so you guys can see on the back we've got the logo the camera on the front you can see the

the power button or lock button or whatever else this one's this one's like a like a matte finish there you go looks a little something like that hold on i'm going back to the loop cam oh i'm trying yeah so this one like the pages on the inside the the lines and stuff are oh no okay so once you get to the pages that you write on, like the standard pages, the lines are black. But on the index, they're orange. But they still have the little tablet markings on them. Oh, man, you guys really can't see that. It's kind of hard to see in that camera.

Yeah, well... It's very obvious in person. Yeah, wow. It looks like I'm holding up a blank page to you guys. Yeah, it gets washed out by the light up here. Emperor's new clothes. No, I swear there's a tablet in here. Okay okay and this one has the three ribbons as well but they're like ltt colors yeah they're gray black and orange yeah that's cool so we've got two

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and we need to clear some space because got it we got some new stuff coming we got some new stuff coming so it's getting a big deep discount and because we care about you guys so very very much if you bought a stealth hoodie recently we would like to offer you you know in case you're feeling burned by by this discount because typically it's not really something that we do if you're feeling burned by this you can reach out to customer support we'll get you a 20 us gift card and you can use that toward whatever whatever else it is that you want in the future we don't want you guys to feel like you got screwed over if you just missed the promo one One note for the LTT store, they added the actual

digital design for the HDD sweater to the very bottom, so you can see the colors that Linus was talking about that might not be apparent in the photos, and the tablet notebook, the little battery symbol goes down as you progress through the notebook. Shut up, it does not, does it? Oh, really? Oh, that's hilarious.

Oh my, it totally does whoops whoops that's gonna be impossible to show there we go it's just that in the corner oh yeah okay very cute but yes that's gonna be impossible to show yeah uh okay here's the yeah there you go that's what it looks like yeah that's the the vibrant version that that's what it actually looks like in person so all right so lots of stuff if you guys are thinking hey i'll just wait and i'll pick up one of those stealth hoodies later i would advise you not to do that we sent out a tweet yesterday so you're probably sitting there going it it's okay. They've got 1,800 units in stock. We sent one tweet yesterday, and that's how many we sold. Oh, wow.

Okay. So is it 1,800 minus that? Okay. So there's nowhere close to 1,800 left. No. So we sold 500 yesterday. And so far today, as far as I can tell with no additional promo. Unless someone picked them up in the last minute.

Another 330 are already gone. So it's 1,800 minus almost 800. So if you want to get one, now's the time to get it. Let's move on to another topic, shall we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do we really have to talk about the voice cloning feature from amazon alexa feature oh this is really uncomfortable for me very creepy i do not like it uh do you want to not talk about it i can fire through it if you want yeah well no i'll talk about it i just don't like

it yeah it's weird okay so new alexa voice cloning feature was uh shown off at a june 22nd conference in las vegas uh i think it sounds like you have to cue it like you have to ask for the voice in your in your request so as an example uh there's a child asking alexa can grandma finish reading me The Wizard of Oz? The device confirmed as Alexa, then switched to a different voice. The Alexa team apparently developed a model that allows its voice assistant to produce a high quality voice with less than one minute of recorded audio. Oh, creepy. Creepy. Creepy.

I mean, with all the... It was, what, two years ago that we did that video where we deepfaked me and used an AI to create a voice print and had it host the video? Okay, when we did that, there was a whole consent process. I had to, I had to sign that they were allowed to use my voice in that way. Like there was a,

there was a lot of concern about the way that technology like this might be used. And now it's just a feature in Amazon Alexa. Yeah. How did we go get from here to here i think there's huge issues with like um not to like go down a dark path but i think there's huge issues in regards to uh like obsessions and like stalker mentality stuff yeah i didn't even think of that it doesn't it's one minute of any audio and then they can reproduce whatever from it right so if you want to be super creepy with your favorite streamer can i have luke read my fan fiction you could have them read you like think think about what it could read you right

and this this says in here uh finish reading me the wizard of oz there's probably um forms of like erotica books that you could have it read you and you could probably have it read you those books in someone's voice that you don't necessarily have permission to use to be clear we don't i don't know that for sure i don't know that alexa will this is a lot of assumptions where so i i don't know maybe not maybe alexa is kind of a prude i i don't use alexa but either way like it doesn't have to be something like that right like it could be an innocent thing i was just going as far as i basically could with it alexa have grandma read me my erotica but seriously it's creepy it's weird we're commercializing deep fakes of voices that is literally what's happening what if i what if i don't consent to this? What if I'm not alive anymore to consent to this?

And like, how would consent to this work? What, you have to say, yes, you can use my voice? Like, that's probably not that hard to get with a different version of the deepfake, right? Yeah, I mean, Nicholas Plouffe points points out even if we ignore the security implications i mean that's not even where i went first i mean let's talk about the security implications what if you're using this to authorize something that's voice printed i mean voice recognition's not it's not that great still you know there's a lot of leeway in the voice recognition models to

allow for that you're gonna sound but you might have a cold right yeah you might sound really different from day to day so it being played by a speaker versus coming out of your your your voice face hole i don't see how they would necessarily be able to tell the difference I mean we've seen facial recognition security measures on mobile devices be fooled by simple flat photos in the past people are pointing out that if it is verbal consent that you have to give to it I just gave

everyone a recording of me giving verbal consent so there you go I mean I'm not saying hitler was right nice now there's a now there's a recording of that too perfect well that's just that's okay i just this is this is maximum creepy it's a it's a meme okay it's a it's a meme yeah yeah oh i didn't even realize we had to address that but that probably makes sense you never know some people might not have known yeah totally that's a good idea um in australia we have voice authentication for government services says jack of gamers yeah that's terrifying that's terrifying because you can you can queue up commands right like you can

tell uh these various devices whether it's Alexa Or Google Home or whatever To say a phrase when you do something Yeah You'd be like So and so say the thing And then they would like say a specific cue of words Most likely

Nubpub over on Twitch says They're already running into huge post-mortem consent issues in the film industry yep yeah a little bit and you know you look at how little protection uh you know oh musicians that's another big one those like hola holographic concerts and stuff yeah you look at how little respect is being given to the wishes of musicians and those are celebrities those are people with money whose estates might actually have the power to to sue over this you know as for everyone else good luck iceberg and philippine chat says the social engineering potential is also scary that's what we're saying that's literally

what we're saying oh i was even i hadn't even gotten there yet i was still just talking about fooling and like a machine automated yeah an automated system yeah no no no no yeah there's a whole other level of fooling actual people and to be clear all of that is possible without this this just takes the the like level of access to everyone instead of anyone who can afford a 99 echo dot or however much an echo dot or it like came free with your phone or whatever you're sitting there going well the model couldn't possibly be that convincing or there might be a long delay as you're using it to try to trick someone or whatever else. Let me just say this. All of those message me on Telegram or WhatsApp comments on YouTube, right? Those wouldn't exist if they didn't work. And so there is a significant portion of the population that, whether it's a lack of tech savvy or whether it's something else, does not smell that as suspicious, right?

So if someone's voice sounds a little off, I mean, all they have to do is say, sorry, I have a recording that says, sorry, I have a bit of a cold, not quite feeling like myself. And immediately our human monkey brain goes, okay, that's a normal thing to say. And everything that is abnormal is now normal. People aren't going to be ready for this. Our authentication systems are not even remotely close to ready for this type of stuff. Anthony's typing in here uh i don't know if i want to say some of it just because you know security stuff um but he points out some things and like yeah like even even if even if something requires video uh it's it says here specifically um its voice assistant can produce a high quality voice with less than one minute of recorded audio so it's it's you can get a high quality voice

even if it requires video you can maybe try to pair that with a video uh or you can try to deep fake a video and you just have the voice or whatever else think about what the commit level of which whoever and no offense if you work in this kind of a job but the kind of like drone state that someone would have to be in just reviewing voice video like voice like video authentication stuff endlessly day after day after day. Are they going to notice if it's not quite right? I mean, look at how easily fooled large percentages of the population have been

by deep fakes of political figures saying things they never said or doing things they never did. Terrifying. Lapsed Memory asks, wouldn't this fall afoul of some state's voice recording laws? I don't know.

Maybe. Not if a user, presumably with authorization, submits the data. Yeah, it's not a recording. Yeah. It's a generation of something new. I don't like it.

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You doing okay over there, bell? My fingers are on fire. We're typing as fast as we can. Uh, okay. Then I am going to work my way through the curated ones on my own. If that's okay. I'm just going to have to scroll a little here.

Is that chill? I give my permission to use my voice for anything, but you have my permission to read these merch messages. What? But your voice is so fine. Are you sure we can't just use it for whatever we want? Only for LTT. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Actually, I guess we actually do have a contract for that.

Nice. Nice. We got this covered. Okay. Merch messages. Tyler F asks, what's your take on Inovelli's project linus also stocking up on gift cards for backpack and screwdriver oh wow that is quite the order 450 bucks including a 250 gift card wait a second what is this what am i looking at here? What is Project Linus Canada? What is Project Linus?

How have I never heard of this? This is not it. There is like a GitHub page with the actual one, but I do like this. Become a blanketeer. Finally check our blanket site. Well, there you go. Project Linus.

Okay. Are there any local chapters look at that project linus all right cool uh anyway so apparently there's a github or something what inovelli oh okay it helps to put the i at the beginning. Inovelli Project Linus. Did they actually call it Project Linus? Oh, they did. That's a little weird of them to do. I mean, it could be named after any Linus. Just because it has your exact voice doesn't mean anything. I mean, you could read the first line of the post here. Note, this is a product pitch

to Linus Tech Tips. No, no, it's definitely me. Where is this? How do you find this? Motion switches. It's on the Inovelli community forum. Please comment on his latest video where he calls us out for pitching him and asks his audience to comment below on what route he should go with

his motion switches. Okay. To be clear overall in a valley i think has taken the good guy route in the smart home space as far as i can tell they have pitched me this privately um but generally speaking okay calling it project linus i don't know it's not wrong but it does feel a little pushy i'll say i'll say that there's some pressure yeah um i you know i i definitely would be happy to see them produce a good motion controlled switch that that is that's something that i wanted for my house as for as for whether or not you know I'm going to be involved in this project I I've told them that at this time like I just don't have the bandwidth for it so you know I'd love to see the product come to light but I by

that time I might have found an alternate solution anyway. Like I don't want to wait that long to have light switches that function the way I want in my house. Oh, hey, the logo's in the pitch deck. That's where I'm at on Innoveli's Project Linus, as it is apparently called. I mean, it's not like I can control the use of the name Linus. Have you opened the PDF? There's the Linus lock.

Do you know the Linus lock? Yeah, there's the Linus bike. Yeah, there's Linus bike. Like anyone can, you know, be Linus anything they want, right? Have you opened the PDF? No. Do it. Oh, I closed the tab already.

Here, why don't you just screen share? Oh. Yeah. Okay. Well, I would prefer they weren't using our logo um i don't know if there's like more that said it is my belief that that particular variant of our logo was actually created by a community member what What am I looking at? Is that a YouTube thumbnail mockup? Is that what I'm seeing? I think maybe. I'm not really sure.

Like I don't know if this is. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is. YouTube review video is what's on there. Okay. Hmm. Well, I mean, there it is. We're covering it.

So I guess mission accomplished in a valley. Oh, this is a good question. The German polar bear asks, will you be making a bid for artesian builds? Well, you don't buy the company, right? They're auctioning off stuff. I they're they're auctioning off i think they're also auctioning off their domain and oh yeah so i will not if we were to start a pc build company which by the way wouldn't call it that we are not we would not wish to inherit artesian builds

legacy in any way shape or form we would really we would really much rather just start our own our own company i'm thinking linus pc co because oh my goodness i'm completely devoid of any creativity pretty much actually oh i think we have a name for the LAN event. Yeah. Okay. I think we actually do. Guys, I'm pitching it. I'm pitching it here. We hosted a LAN event.

LAN event. Whale LAN. Kind of goes with the Vancouver theme. Also, there's some other potential implications. Yeah, we can sell super expensive tickets. Yeah. Whale LAN. I love that. That expensive tickets. Yeah, which is awesome. Whale land. I love that. That's great.

We got to do that. I mean, if Blizzard and all these other companies are dipping into the whale pot, we might as well. Yeah, whale land. One little comment on the Artesian builds thing. As far as my understanding goes, they are selling builds

that have been paid for by other people there's there's other people that have covered this very well oh that artesian i know just gotta gotta find the worst way to do everything um i i have not watched it but uh christopher yee made a video about this whole thing. It's probably good. I would check that out. But yeah, that's actually the worst. As far as my understanding goes, all the systems they're selling that are built were paid for

by people and then not delivered and are now being sold again. Now, I think it's not clear at this time if the proceeds from the auction will be going to pay back customers seriously doubt it well i mean yeah that's usually not how that goes but i'm just i'm just saying we don't know there is still time there's still time Time for them to not be complete scum. Right. The track record here, not great. No. But, yeah. Lapsed Memory pitches Linus System Designs, LSD.

The reason why they are getting auctioned off versus shipped is how bankruptcy law works. Yeah, that's what I was going to kind of say is like you often have to, when bankruptcy, I don't know enough about this. But but as far as my understanding goes it usually goes to the big creditors first yeah the problem is that i was gonna say the creditors who are likely to get that money would be whoever artesian owes money to for the parts that they bought from them so the little guy ends up getting screwed over as far as i could tell at the ncix, there were customer systems there that presumably had been paid for. Yeah. Yeah, the buyers of the builds are at the bottom of the creditor list. Exactly. Yeah. So those people will probably never see that money. It's just, it sucks.

Yeah, it really sucks. That's another thing. If I were to buy Artesian builds, sucks that's another thing if i were to buy artesian builds i could open myself up to that liability potentially which i i mean i'm sorry bad situation but i don't want to just start shipping gaming computers out of pocket because some jackass screwed people over. That really wasn't on me. It really wasn't. Speaking of things not being on me. Oh. I managed to brick a Linux install of Ubuntu in less than an hour this week while attempting to film a short circuit. I guess that doesn't beat your previous record.

No, but this one was professionally installed by someone else it came free installed on a laptop and i don't know what these guys were thinking but this particular laptop maker really cool designs by the way you're not going to want to miss that short circuit video short circuit hoodie now available uh you're not going to want to miss that short circuit video um i don't know what they were thinking shipping me a laptop with linux pre-installed when they do offer windows laptops i swear to you i swear i cross my heart i hope to die i swear to you i did nothing i did nothing but attempt to launch steam and play cs go steam again what okay what happened how did it how did you said you how how do you break it do you know well it didn't have gpu drivers okay so i installed drivers okay and then even though i had drivers

the game was running on the igpu the integrated graphics so i switched it to high performance mode this sounds like more than just running steam but but okay i i didn't say i only ran steam i said i ran steam and played cs go okay okay and yes i wanted more than 11 fps fair is that unreasonable i think not okay okay after i switched to maximum performance mode i was prompted for a restart which is definitely a thing linux people linux does need to be restarted so many people were on my case about that no no I'm like Windows 200 days up to yeah whatever there's probably some way to do without a restart I'm sure there is but okay it's probably way more convenient to just restart it so i was prompted to restart and it never turned on again oh boy oh no

i'd be i'd be interested in in seeing what actually happened jake figures i must have some kind of aura that i may actually be cursed in some way aura yeah it's just not possible for linux to run properly for me i just break it by looking at it by being near it you watch that batman movie when you're a kid and it just like really resonated with you that joke's not gonna hit with that many people. Danny DeVito. Anyway. Digidude51 asks, are there any games you guys have slash will buy during the Steam Summer Sale or any you'd recommend people to pick up?

Steam Summer Sale. Man, I haven't played that many games recently. Luke and I were actually just going through this the other night. We managed to both set aside a couple of hours to game. We both got in front of our computers and we were like, what do you want to play? I don't know.

What do you want to play? Hey, now don't start that again. We've been here before. Yeah, we settled on Divinity Original Sin 2, which we've managed to, I mean, by the time I got some kind of weird graphical bug sorted out that was very odd we played for about an hour yeah we got off the tutorial boat yeah my understanding is about this much of the total content of that game yeah so i guess we're going

to be on that for a while which is exciting because it's actually a super good game i've definitely had some stuff show up that i that i have wanted to pick up that is in the steam summer sale what's this oh well that's i know what that is but like what's up with that i can explain i was talking i think last this looks like willow packaging does it it does i don't think it is no no this is no i mean it's common. Yeah, these are standard. These plastic protective shells for retro games. I mean, it's not exclusive. I just... Last week, I think it was, on WAN Show,

I talked about how I would love to treat myself to a copy of Final Fantasy VI, which in North America was called Final Fantasy III for the Super Nintendo, because I no longer have my childhood copy, although I do have my booklet. The actual game cartridge itself was lost when I moved from my dad's house to

my mom's house along with all of my other worldly possessions. And someone, anonymously, without providing a name or contact information or anything like that, sent me a copy of Final Fantasy III. So I did not actually buy this.

This puts my Super Nintendo collection up to a whopping one console, two controllers, and Super Mario RPG and Final Fantasy VI, which are... I never actually owned Super Mario RPG when I was a kid, but this is one of the only,

I think, four or five games that I owned for Super Nintendo. Because back then you would rent games. Yeah. A lot of the time you'd find out they were pretty crap, actually. And then you would return them to the store having only invested $9, $8 or whatever in them. So I think it would be fitting for me to open it on stream

and have a look at i mean the condition i guess it seems like based on the state of the outer box it could be a complete in box it's not like a mint condition or anything like nothing too crazy but this is if it's if everything's in here this is worth like 300 bucks it has been loved oh wow yeah i mean that makes sense it's a incredibly legendary game uh magitek has been reborn and the end of the world is near i remember as a kid thinking the design for mog was so cool and i thought this knife was like the coolest thing i'd ever seen oh whoops wrong one there we go. Linus Cam. Like this knife going through as the T in fantasy. And like, oh, oh, I loved it. Have you ever seen any of the manual art

or anything like that? No. I never had. You never played this game? The only Final Fantasy I had growing up was on PC. It was Final Fantasy VIII. The worst one. And it was like a six disc set.

Okay, it's not the worst one. I'm just being a hater i liked it i enjoyed it but i didn't play the other ones so i don't know oh wow i don't know if this is complete complete i don't know if to count is complete it has to have like the little nintendo you know slip in there anything like that but it has the map the map is always my favorite part i lost this so early on when I was a kid because I just was always... So cool. Okay, the map is not in perfect condition.

Is it two different maps or is it in half? Nope, the map came apart. And I guess at this point, you're better off leaving it ripped than trying to tape it back together. I don't know. Probably. But I spent so long just

looking at this and it's both sides because you gotta remember when you're a kid you're not allowed to play games all the time right yeah so when you're not allowed to play games you just sit and like fantasize about playing your games planning playing your game so we got the world of balance on one side world of ruin on the other side world of ruin really was man such a such a weak point for this game in my opinion i i feel like on the one hand it what it was trying to do was really cool being more open-ended and exploratory but because there's a particular order that you really need to do things in order to not get your ass kicked. And there's not really a ton of guidance for that. I just I felt like it was not a great gaming experience.

Instruction booklet. Oh, man, this takes me back. I do have mine. But I haven't looked at it in a long time. And remember when instruction booklets were cool like this and just full of all this, like concept art, like you because you wouldn't know looking at the sprites that that's what sells celeste i don't even know how to pronounce it uh there's no voice acting right was supposed to look like you wouldn't know that you would only know that from looking at at concept art and it's it's like that's what magitek armor and armor and terra is supposed to look like okay like it's it's kind of cool because um yeah sure the graphics are so bad because they're like sprites

or whatever but your imagination runs because you've seen stuff like this so you start imagining what other things look like and yeah i don't know yeah it was it was more akin to reading i'd say yeah absolutely love it so thank you very much so there's a there's like omg stop touching it I mean guys it's not a it's not a mint condition copy or anything like that I don't think I'm I don't think I'm knocking too much off of its value right now and besides isn't that kind of the point I am also a uh very on the side of like you should you should use the thing you know uh i know a lot of people are like no leave it in the box forever never look at it never do anything with it like what's the point of it then um there's there's one that is in not i would say not as

good condition with the same amount of completeness with eight offers on it right now on eBay for 500 Canadian. So, yeah. All right. Well, I'm putting that back in the enclosure. There's certain parts of the box, like the corners on this one are more worn, but then the other one has like dents that aren't on the corners. Should I bring up your screen?

Sure. There you go. This is one that I'm looking at. This is in the C stands for CAD. This is in Canadian. That one's also tested working. I don't know that this one is working. This is in the C stands for CAD. This is in Canadian. That one's also tested working. I don't know that this one is working. I haven't tried it yet.

Fair. But yeah, you can see like the... Even if it's not working, it can be fixed. But I would imagine from a collector perspective, if you have to fix it, it's maybe worth less. I don't know if you would even know if the soldering was done really well. But yeah, see like along the flat parts, this one has a little bit more damage

as far as I can tell. That one just has slightly more warden corners. I don't know what is worth more or less. Yeah, I'm not an expert when it comes to this stuff. For me, it's not about, like it's not the sort of thing I, I don't know, maybe I eventually would have treated myself to one,

but it's not the sort of thing that I, I'm gonna, you know, build up a huge collection of SNES games or anything like that. But it's still, I mean, it's the kind of thing that I'm going to put on my display wall behind where I'm going to be streaming at the new place. So I've got a bunch of mementos from a bunch of the stuff that I had in my attic, pretty much. Nicholas Kalanan helped me kind of arrange stuff he's got it i've got the stuff i never knew what to do with now that i've got a bigger place and i've got somewhere to kind of display it i've got the you know that model m that everyone here like signed and gifted me one year uh so just so i've got like lmg mementos i've got ncix mementos i've

got more like just being a media personality mementos separately and then i've got like LMG mementos. I've got NCIX mementos. I've got more like just being a media personality mementos separately. And then I've got some viewer mementos as well. So this will definitely, this will definitely go there. 500K. No, not 500K. No.

500 CAD, also known as Canadian dollar. Yeah. It's not a bit rot issue, Inquisitor Toaster. It's more of a um oh what is it the uh the user the user accessible parts anthony would be able to give you the full technical explanation of it but the the user accessible parts where you save data to can become corrupted

so you have to there's like a an internal battery that maintains the integrity of that data and once that battery dies like it's a matter of when not if was this a need to be replaced a saved game game not like a password save game yeah yeah okay so it's possible that it needs some help it's also possible that they oh someone says there was a letter in the box what oh What? Oh Oh ALC5440 On floatplane apparently was the one Who sent it and said there was

A letter in the box It was just not given to you? No logistics specifically told me There was no letter So Perhaps Your letter was A digital

And perhaps you could Le control C Control V Hopefully It was holding 3.2 volts when I tested it Apparently it is good to go Thank you ALC5440

Appreciate you that's awesome Alright Yeah So the letter It is good to go. Hey, thank you, ALC5440. Appreciate you. That's awesome. All right. Yeah. So the letter, hopefully I get a chance to read it at some point. It's tested. It does work and apparently has saves. Okay.

All right, cool. Those saves are probably past where I ever made it to as a kid. I couldn't figure out how to beat the floating continent because I didn't know that you could cast magic from the overworld so I would run out of potions every time oh so like healing I'm assuming yeah so you could heal between combats okay yeah yeah I did not know that you could do that because I was a child. Whoops. Should we do some of these merch messages? Yeah, yeah, we should. Oh, right.

There was the Steam Summer Sale thing. I don't even know what's going to be in the Steam Summer Sale, but honestly, I have not been excited. I don't think I've bought anything in Steam sales in quite some time, to be completely honest. What? We sold another 400 stealth hoodies since I announced the deal. We are now down to 600 stealth hoodies. Nice. We had 1,800 yesterday.

Perfect. I mean, we're not making any money, so it's not like yeah yeah yeah we're literally just clearing space in the warehouse which costs money so there's that

Conrad mentions Final Fantasy 7 R I'm assuming he means like remastered yeah but not all the parts are out yet no it's not the pixel remaster not all the parts are out yet I want to play them all at once so I'm assuming he means like remastered. Yeah, but not all the parts are out yet. No, it's not the pixel remaster. Not all the parts are out yet. I want to play them all at once. So I'm just not going to do it.

Slay the Spire. Is that going to be in it? It sure is. I'd buy it twice if I could. Slay the Spire is amazing. I've put an ungodly amount of time into that game. FTL, if it goes up for sale, I would highly recommend. Great game.

We're playing Div divinity original sin 2 that's a fantastic game though is the seam is the seam summer sale even going right now yeah yeah there's deals oh i didn't even know it was live there was something in my like trello list of games to play that i looked at i was like holy crap this is like 70 off should i buy yeah remember i was telling you this is like 70% off. Should I buy it? Yeah, remember I was telling you. This is like way on sale. Should I buy it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, there's a lot of backlog things.

I still haven't played The Witcher 3. That's going to be the next game I play on Steam Deck. I'm going to, damn it, I'm going to play through Witcher 3. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Well, I'm also going to play Divinity Original Sin 2.

So that's the next 400 gaming hours that I can. They're both like massive games managed to set aside taking care of i think yeah uh benjamin h asks what happened to all the black magic cameras any follow-up they just they were too noisy bulky um we had an opportunity to get rid of them when there were camera shortages during the pandemic, which to my understanding are still not fully resolved. So what we decided to do was get some Sony cameras for our, for Short Circuit, which I don't think we even have all of them yet, but get some Sony cameras for Short Circuit. We're using all of our old canon c200s for all the

different views here boom luke cam boom linus cam boom wide cam and then that's it so i think we're using fs5s and oh no fx sorry fx6s sorry fs5 i was thinking different sony cameras fx6s and then um oh lordy i can't remember the models it models. I don't care anymore, but Sony cameras now. FTL is 75% off. Get it. Daniel C., my wife and I need a new mattress. I know Linus did extensive research and would like to know the resources he used in researching

and about his mattress guru. You want to get to that mattress underground, all right? Mattress underground. What rule of the internet is it where if it is a thing, there's a ridiculously, unfathomably large community of people who are unimaginably into that thing, okay? So that's mattress underground. They're super into mattresses.

And you can learn what you need to know there. You can find a place to get a good mattress. I can't promise it'll be cheap, but what I can promise is that you will learn a lot. Joshua Caro asks, hi Linus, throughout the run of LTT, has there ever come a time when the channel got jeopardized as in a strike or warning or something similar on the channel or like an all is lost moment uh i would say that there were some really um scary moments when youtube was telegraphing that they were not going to allow third-party brand integration in videos i mean you guys have

seen how does lmg make money we've done that video a couple of times now. That is a huge portion of our revenue. It's a huge part of what's allowed us to hire people and build facilities and buy equipment. Without it, we would not be, I mean, we'd survive. We just, we would not have the kind of amazing world-class team that we have today. So that was a really scary moment when we got kicked off of the Amazon affiliate program. That was a super scary moment because that was a more significant portion of our revenue at the time. The reason for it is that we felt allowed to promote it. Nowadays, we just are super quiet about our Amazon affiliate links just because we don't want to get kicked off of it again for promoting it wrong um so so there's that oh man what else what else

has been really scary beginning yeah the very beginning we were almost out of money six months in we didn't have you know vc funding or anything like that yvonne's bank account was literally our funding and we never did miss a paycheck we were never late on a paycheck but it was close i i even meant uh before that oh almost didn't even get it right yeah when we almost didn't get the channel from ncix it was 11th hour. It was literally the night of December 31st. Yes. And LMG was supposed to begin operation. I no longer had a job at NCIX starting January 1.

And the owner of NCIX had not signed the deal selling the channel to us yet over a dispute that admittedly I played a role in. over a dispute that admittedly I played a role in. I had effectively bailed out of school and no longer had a job either. And I think Ed was in a similar spot. No, Ed was just doing an internship with us. He could have gone back to school at the time. He never did manage to make it back,

but he could have. Yeah, yeah. That was a tense moment. Yeah, you had probably the most on the line out of all of us. I did. He could have. Yeah. Yeah. That was a tense moment. Yeah. You had probably the most on the line out of all of us. I did. Which is sort of terrifying. Why on earth did you do that?

I don't know. It's kind of stupid. Am I that charismatic? I don't think so. What did you believe in? I've actually reflected on this multiple times and tried to figure out like what the hell i was thinking uh because i i was i was doing really well in school and then basically tanked it all to make less than minimum wage for some weird youtube channel that when i started if

i remember correctly had like 60,000 subs um but I mean I saw the trajectory while we were working there and something that I had kind of assumed was like yeah it's going to be super rough and maybe there isn't money from Yvonne to pay for paychecks but we'll probably figure it out if we don't get the youtube channel we could start another one right and like it would have been slower but i was like i've gone this far right like i think a lot of it was that yeah because at the beginning i was just like oh i want to do this uh and then the four to eight hours that we had discussed initially became significantly more than that. Yeah.

Per week was the plan. That was the original, original plan. And then it became more than 40 hours. But I, I wanted to do it. And then I started noticing my grades were slipping and I was like, okay,

but this is a potential maybe career path. I'll try to juggle it better. I mean, I think both of us like to think we saw web media coming hard. Yeah. Come on, you had to break. I was going to hold it together, Luke.

I'm sorry. But yeah, no, seriously, it was like you could see the path, right? Like it was pretty clear. The growth of not just our channel, but the whole platform. Yeah,

it was all over everyone's faces. Justin TV was around, like it, everything was really cranking up. And that's what everyone tells you. Like, that's when you want to be on the ground floor. Yes.

So it was like, yeah, this is uncomfortable, but this is also the time in my life to do uncomfortable things. So we made it, I think. Yeah. There's still plenty of time for this to explode. We got to completion.

Yeah. Yeah. There's still plenty of time for this to explode. We got to completion. Yeah, we're going all the way in. We're in deep right now. I've been very transparent with you guys about how deeply reinvested Yvonne and I are right now. Yeah, business is throbbing.

We have $10 million in debt on the lab. Actually, I'm rounding. throbbing yeah we have a we have a we have 10 million in debt on the lab more actually i'm rounding okay we're at the point where you actually round to to round tens of tens of millions okay so we're 10 million in on the lab we are in debt on the lab and then all of our cash is deployed in inventory for screwdriver and backpack, which is 100,000 units of screwdriver and 40,000 units of backpack. So we're all in again. Fortunately, if this is anything to go by,

the worst case scenario is we can just sell all the screwdrivers and backpacks at a loss and we'll manage to get rid of them because the velocity on stealth hoodie sales does not appear to be uh yeah you guys probably didn't have to go quite to 50 percent you know i don't know man i it was it was a thursday afternoon and i was tired and nick was like or no no wednesday wed Wednesday afternoon was hump day. And I was like, I don't know, Nick, sir.

Yeah. Okay. So we did it. We did a thing. Yeah. It is what it is. Look, you gotta be, you gotta be kind of wild and crazy sometimes. It's like a three-year-old product.

You gotta get in there. You gotta try new things. We've got new stuff coming. I want to be very upfront about that. You gotta be creative in the business room. Yeah, exactly. Jake B asks, Huh? Really?

You know you don't have to send merch messages. You can just talk into your mic. It's just great merch that I want. Hey, LMG. I'm an avid biohacker. Implants. And would love to see you guys discuss the topic, possibly in regards to Linus's house. I'm excited for the new apex implant. No idea what that is,

but apparently you're hoping to use it as a password manager. I've actually wanted to get an RFID chip in my palm for quite some time. I hate pulling out my phone to scan to come into the building here and stuff like that. I'm, I'm, I'm'm into it but we had actually planned to do a trip down to seattle to a place that does them right early 2020 and i think you guys know what probably happened to those plans i do with you 2019 whenever the covid pandemic thing happened early 2020 so the border was like closed for a year and a half and we didn't do it. But I'm yeah, I'm down. Yeah, I'm in. Yeah, there were a bunch of people.

We were just all going to go down and do it. I remember talking about this. Yeah, forever ago. I've always been very interested by the field of biohacking, but have never dove into it. I've heard stories of people putting like magnets in their fingertips so that they can like basically gain a magnetic sense. Like they can detect magnetic fields because it will pull on their fingertips. It's kind of spooky at the same time, but really interesting.

I would just play with it over and over and over again endlessly. I would just do this all day. I think they're like really weak on purpose but um because for all these reasons um but yeah i mean there's a bunch of really cool stuff in that field just have never actually committed scott g my fp8s are doing pretty well because they're my backup pair but my airpods pros are starting to have a little bit less battery life less than you'd think because i'm on my third pair of them because I lost a couple.

I thought they'd turn up in the move. I was sure they were at my house, but they apparently were not. Wow. Yep. Adam, what other hand tool, if any, would you consider making after the screwdriver? I think we'd want to do really good electronics tools. screwdriver i think we'd want to do really good electronics tools like we'd want to do uh you know tweezers and um pry tools and things like that like i could i could definitely see us we wouldn't

be i don't think we'd want to compete at like a budget price point that's not really our brand i was just gonna say having tweezers that you can like that aren't super and like kind of annoying to handle would be sweet yeah just like a really nice pair you know i it's i mean it's gonna come down to pretty much stuff that i want to be better i i i hate most of the like needle nose pliers that i've ever used like a really nice pair of needle nose pliers yeah i'd be, I'd be down to do something like that. I don't know. We're going to see. We're going to see. Dylan Kanady says,

AirPods Pro have Find My. Just use that to track them. Only works if they have battery. Yeah, fun fact. And if you had them paired to your iPhone, if I recall correctly, because I was trying to find them recently and I couldn't figure out how to do it

from an Android phone if you didn't have it paired to the iPhone. Do we have any other topics that we wanted to hit? Oh, PCIe 7.0 was just announced. And it's going to be a fast one, ladies and gentlemen. Although PCIe 5 is just starting to trickle out into the real world, the fine folks over at PCIe SIG have unveiled the specs for the PCIe 7.0 standard. It's fast. It'll do 512 gigabytes per second. Eight times the speed of PCIe 5.0. Really? Two times what PCIe 6 will bring.

So PCIe 6 is quadrupling speed instead of doubling? This is madness! Of course, 512 gigabytes a second will be for 16x connectors, and in real life, the performance won't be that high. But what that means is a single PCIe 7.0 lane will give us the same bandwidth as a full-blown PCIe Gen 4 16x slot. Wow. PCIe 5.0 SSDs are just starting to come out with speeds of 13 gigabytes a second. So maybe over a hundred gigabytes a second could actually happen on a single SSD. I mean, NAND flash is going to have to come a long way before we're going to see anything like that,

but who knows? Man. Yeah. Anthony writes writes if you could get an external gpu adapter like the beast nvme thing to work with pcie gen 7 that'd be hilarious you could run like a full fat desktop gpu full speed on your laptop like storage slot or if we saw you know a steam deck of the future with pcie gen i mean even gen 5 or Gen 6 by that point. I worry that these generations of PCIe are not even really going to make their way into the consumer space, though. A, we don't need it. Honestly, we really don't need it. And B, I have to imagine that the power requirements just wouldn't make sense, particularly for mobile. I mean, yeah, Moore's law, blah, blah.

We're going to see more refined process node technology. But you got to remember, guys, as we get more power efficient, like Gen 4 controllers are also going to get more power efficient. So it might just not make any sense. efficient so it might just not make any sense i mean we've already seen multiple mobile platforms not carry the same pci express generation compatibility as their desktop counterparts and like one of the things too is like by the time we might need it say we go like far enough out in the future and something crazy requires that type of stuff uh there's probably going to be gen whatever the heck way beyond what we're currently at so yeah i suspect the consumer space will skip quite a few gremlin injector says linus this will improve

efficiency imagine a cpu that only needs four pcie lanes i mean i guess we'll see we'll see that's a good comment actually are you better off with more lower power lanes or fewer higher power lanes will consumers revolt when intel an intel or an amd releases a platform that has fewer lanes than the previous one because so far that hasn't been the trend i don't know uh someone brought up that we have not addressed the responding to clinical topic. Oh. Right. That's a whole big thing. It's big. So, oh, Sam, our audio engineer for labs is off probation now,

so I can call him out by name. Oh, and by the way, clinical, we also haven't received our 5128. We shot our video with a rental. So, after publishing our head and torso simulator video, Critical had some thoughts. Who is Critical? Critical is the man behind

In Ear Fidelity, one of the most comprehensive IEM and headphone databases on the web. He's one of the most prominent creators in the audiophile community and is well respected and very knowledgeable. His channel's great. If you guys want to go subscribe to him, Critical Plus. Especially since he had to restart his whole channel

after losing it. YouTube support was apparently useless. His video compliments our video quite nicely, filling in technical information gaps in our video that our audience, we felt, might not have been interested in since this was an LTT video, not an in-depth deep dive

on what could in the future be a lab-specific channel. You got to remember, you can't just publish any old thing you want on any old random channel and expect it to perform well. You have to try to meet the expectations of your audience. Regarding our video, Clinical said that our current audio product reviews are kind of low level. That's fair. But he thinks we're heading in the right direction and looks forward to our development. He hopes that our influence will be good for the headphone industry in general. He also thinks we made the right choice

in head and torso simulator. That's good to know because it wasn't cheap. Yeah. He said our hats video was largely accurate, but a little dumbed down to fit the mainstream viewer. You are right. I cut out so much stuff. First, okay. So first Sam cut out things knowing that it was

headed to ltd then adam the writer cut out a bunch of sam stuff knowing that it was headed to ltd then i took much of what adam preserved and cut it out because we were trying to address a more mainstream audience so critical you're right he thinks we could have to address a more mainstream audience. So, Clinical, you're right. He thinks we could have gone with a more cost-effective solution, but given our resources and ambitions, he understands our decision. Yeah, we don't want to f*** around. Like, that's just not what Labs is going to be. Does have advice and concerns for us.

Don't waste time on certain tests and measurements that, although they might be a staple of audio slash headphone measurements, provide little useful information to the user examples include total harmonic distortion time domain measurements impulse response waterfall plots etc got it don't abandon this headphone database project after a while like some other websites have like headfi.org instead build a thorough and comprehensive database of headphones and continuously update it make sure it's feature rich and as powerful and flexible comparison tools and functions you ready that's the goal that is the Make sure it's feature rich and has powerful and flexible comparison tools and functions. You ready? That's the goal. That is the

goal, but it's going to take... Well, Luke's hiring right now, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he is. Sure am. Don't publish sound demos. Hmm, interesting. Where you play samples of the audio output from each headphone for users to listen to.

Critical says, basically it would be like judging the color accuracy of a TV while wearing colored glasses, so you can't really tell how each headphone would sound on your head. It's only a relative comparison. This contains Sam's response, which I have not read yet, but I do have my own thoughts about that. I will read Sam's response first. We agree that frequency response sound demos are only valid for relative comparisons and not for absolute comparisons. This makes frequency response sound demos quite confusing for the uninitiated. If we decide to

publish frequency response sound demos, we will make sure that their limitations are very, very clear. However, there are other types of sound demos that can be quite useful, like active noise cancellation or isolation sound demos, as well as leakage and microphone headset sound demos. Critical approves of these last few. Yeah, I mean, I think this is something that I'm going to butt heads with the labs team about often, because I do have a tendency to want to at least give people who don't understand technical documentation something to look at that might tell them something, anything. And in some cases, you can run into a situation where a product is so clearly, obviously worse than another one that even a recording on a crappy microphone

played through YouTube compression on dollar store earphones will tell you that this one is clearly better than the other one. Garbage in, garbage out. So, I know that there will be situations where we are going to publish sound demos. For example, fan noise is something where quantitatively you can turn it into a numerical value. You can represent it that way. But qualitatively, it's very difficult. And so I feel as long as we have a very consistent way of collecting those sound demos there's a value to that for the end user is is there so something from from my side would be like labs is trying

to be as hardcore and objective as it can be is there value to the not everyone's going to understand this but like the the like science local science museum i was going to understand this, but like the, the like science, local science museum, I was going to say science world, but we can apply it to whatever one you have. Um, you know how you can like walk up and press a button and it like, we'll give you like a, a kid's level understanding of something. Like, is there value to that? Like, could we give people audio samples and just have like very blatant warnings and be like this is not objective i think that it could be valuable for things like um you know this is what more bass heavy a more bass heavy headphone might sound like or or if we were to do something like a guide for how to wear your headphones properly which is a big deal like if you have a leak in a closed back headphone, I mean, good luck getting

any base response out of it, right? So if we had something like demos of here's what your headphones might sound like when they're not sealed correctly like this, or here's what your headphone might sound like if you're wearing it too far forward. I think something like that could have a ton of value. But in that case, you're comparing apples to apples. You're only changing one variable at a time. You're also hoping that they're wearing it properly in the first place. Well, no, because it's relative. It is relative. So the recording would still reflect some of those changes.

It's just the recording of wearing it properly won't sound proper if they're not wearing it properly. Legitsu says, Linus arguing with the very people he hired because he has no clue what he's talking about is confusing. No, you're the only one who's confused. I'm not arguing with them. I'm saying that we are definitely going to have to find a middle ground where we are able to represent the differences between products

in a way that normies can understand. between products in a way that normies can understand and while also staying true to our mission which is to provide objective empirical data and there has to be a very very clear line between the two as well which is it's going to interesting um communicating results and things like that is is very difficult snow skeleton over on float plane chat seems to understand a little better and says relative can still be valuable if you have a recording of a headset that i know and like and play the same sounds on a different set i can get some sense for the differences based on my knowledge of a previous set yeah it's not scientific at all and frankly we wouldn't want you to make a purchase decision based on that i mean we could even just say that

much it would have to be like super super clear i think disclaiming it um i think disclaiming it and just saying this is for you basically go you go psychic on it you say this is for entertainment purposes only this is the scientific data this is for entertainment purposes only. This is the scientific data. This is for entertainment purposes only. I would be comfortable publishing it. At the end, Critical jokes that if our headphone test engineer insists on publishing sound demos,

we should fire him. I had actually only just read that now, so apparently maybe we should fire me. It's one of those things where I understand both the purist point of view and I also understand the users who just want that resource, whether it's a flawed data point or not. And it feels honestly a lot like arguing with YouTube about the dislike button.

They say, well, it's not a good indicator of video quality and most users don't rely on it anyway because comments is so much better, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's so much, there's so much, blah. There's so much interpretation that needs to be done in order to utilize this signal that as an end user, you couldn't possibly do it. And I'm sitting here going, I can do it just fine. And I would like to have it. I'm the end user. I'm the customer. I said I want it. And so there's a push and there's a pull, right? We have to push what are the right measurements and what are the right means of representing the differences between products. But users are also going to tell us what resources they want. And it's very clear from chat that they want that resource.

they want that resource and again we can do a lot in regards to segmenting it making it very very clear like okay this section is for entertainment purposes only like you said this is the actual like proper data dividing it all up yeah see legit who says i would rather be presented with hard scientific data that this headphone is better than that headphone and let the subjective part which would be me the subject make the final decision but it doesn't work that way so again you don't understand no single headphone is better objectively than another headphone you also don't have to go through the entertainment only section you can just read the hard facts section. Which is true. But the thing that I want to clarify here is that we all are so different. Our physiology is so different that the best performing headphone for me is not necessarily

the best performing headphone for you. This is something that we did discuss in the video. And the dummy head, it's an average. It's designed based on an average of a whole bunch of people. No one of those individual people was that average. It's literally just a nice to know figure that you're collecting from it. There is no objectivity here. That's the challenge. that you're collecting from it. There is no objectivity here. That's the challenge. Note from Bell.

This week's Short Circuit will have Labs Notes in it. Ooh, really? Or this weekend's, this weekend's Short Circuit. For the Mercedes EQS, we have Labs Notes on the speaker system. So if you want to see kind of how some of it will be presented and compared to other products, that will be an option.

That's fun. Cool. Anyways, I think, uh, I haven't watched the video, but from, from looking at the back and forth,

it sounds like both sides are super level headed and there was some really cool feedback and that's awesome. Yeah. It's actually really exciting to have like pinnacle figures of of various industries stepping up and being excited about us doing this and and giving advice as well because like yeah we're not we don't know everything and we want to make sure that we are taking the right and we'll make mistakes yeah joshua says what is the priority for things to be tested in ltt labs whatever we can do well i've been asked this a lot internally as well like what what are we what are we hiring for and the answer is we're hiring the best people and whatever it is that they

happen to be experts in well that's um what we're gonna test first yeah it's just gonna be that simple so we found an excellent candidate for audio uh we have an excellent candidate for keyboards um we have what else can i announce yet you know what i'm gonna leave it there for now i'll leave it there for now because those guys are off probation. All right. Andrew asks, how do you like the Ubiquiti Unify Protect setup in your new house? It looked like you went with two NVRs instead of an NVR Pro. Why? Jake set it up that way. I believe it was just because of it being difficult to get our hands on an NVR Pro. As for how much I like it, it's very, very, very, very expensive. But the benefit is that I'm very unlikely to get rug pulled later on and have functionality

turned off if I refuse to pay for a subscription service. So there's no ongoing cost. I it's, it's one time and forget about it. Also, ubiquity is a great partner and didn't charge me for it. So, um, there wasn't even that drawback, but the image quality is so good. So good. And the app is getting better. It's a lot better now than it was. There's still definitely room for improvement, but it's getting so much better and it's happening at a very reasonable pace, a good pace. Oh, I guess you can read these now that you've kind of caught up on the incoming

merch messages hey bell i did get a bit of a breather first uh one here is from steve the industry seems to be moving towards arm processors what do you think this will do to old games max m1 rosetta works good but history says apple will axe it what do you think will happen in the PC space? Wow. This is going to be one of those things that haunts me, I think. But in that context, I don't see an end for x86 in gaming. I know, right? How are you going to emulate x86? People have emulated other funky stuff.

Yeah, but how are you going to play, like, freaking Doom Eternal? I don't know. I don't have an answer for you. Emulated. Like, it's not... Maybe in PCIe Gen 11. Yeah, like, that's what I'm talking...

It might be that far ahead. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, like that's what I'm talking. It might be that far ahead. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it's a little weird, but we'll see. Dash D asks, oh, sorry, go ahead. That's your job. What's the best way to handle a hot PC in a room you can't air condition over the summer?

Ducting. Yeah. He's not wrong. We should do a video on that. Have we not? We haven't done a video on just like ducting and intake like man for for under 50 bucks yeah pretty cheap you can get some some ducting a fan some tape and you can considerably cool your room in the summer and like if you do it properly like if you get actual ducting and stuff,

it won't even look like that bad. It'll look pretty bad. It's going to look bad. If I do it, it'll look bad. But you can also do it with cardboard for basically nothing. That will look bad. Yeah.

But it'll work. Or do what Taron did and just have it outside of your room. Like his Intel upgrade video. Yeah. That also works. Ducting to cool your PC. He's making a note. Yeah.

Yeah. We're totally going to do that video. While you type that down from Avroham. Sorry if that's wrong. Do you think it's a good idea to use port forwarding to remotely access my NAS? If not, is there a more secure way you can recommend i'll let luke handle this one uh i know that having open ports is generally not the best an alternative that i do not have it depends on how their nas is set up um it depends on how they want to access it like there's there's there's a lot more that you

would need i would need to know yeah try posting in our forum we have a lot of smart people that will definitely help you out yes from samuel uh but yeah probably not the ports but yeah like it's i don't know anytime you open it up at all there's going to be security problems which is why i don't really want to say something um but like remoting in is a solution uh having a private vpn is a solution that's how a lot of companies do that type of stuff um if you're comfortable with setting that up then sure yeah i just more secure my hesitation there was if you didn't already know that it might be hard uh but there are guides on how to do that stuff i think you guys even have one uh so maybe watch the ltd one uh last i looked

at it it actually looked like it was still fairly up to date so maybe check that out um but yeah most companies do vpns and whatever you do don't take advice from youtube chat where uh mr sharp bulls over there says dmz the naz nice let's go let's go please no but yeah it depends on it depends on what you want to do with it i would argue like if you're if you're trying to play music on your phone anywhere in the world it might need to be a little bit more open itech cat asks with linus's workstation as a rack server in his rack at home to draw the noise and heat away from where he works in games does that mean he could just log into his workstation from different stations like one one day in the office, next from the comfort of his bed?

Okay, so the way that's set up is with optical display port and USB connections. For that reason, yes, I could access it from anywhere, but only wherever I ran optical display port and optical USB, because otherwise I am limited by the by the bandwidth and realistically it's not really a bandwidth limitation it's an encoding and decoding uh performance limitation of ethernet right so typically when you remote into a station at best you're doing like maybe 60 megabit per second if you're using nvank for encoding yeah and it's costing you about a frame at 60 fps of of time for that encode and decode process plus network transit time so it's going to be blocky you're not going to have support for advanced features like vr or hdr or anything like that so yes you can access the station from anywhere, but that's just, that's basically parsec.

So at home, what I'm doing is I'm using USB and DisplayPort and Thunderbolt to have it be exactly like I'm sitting right in front of it. There's no additional latency and no quality loss. So it's a pretty different solution. Tony B in full-plane chat said, if you do use a VPN, still secure the services if it was exposed to the internet,

the VPN is an addition to that security not in place of it that so that's what i'm kind of saying like the second you start accessing it remotely you open yourself to security concerns that's just it's just how it be my dude so yeah i'm not saying you necessarily shouldn't do it um but yeah. From Eric, what happened to the $1 million computer series? Jake was busy helping me finish my house. So are they going to ask for it back?

Yeah. Yeah. It's going back at some point, but, uh, Jake needs to finish working on it. I think he actually did put some work into it this week, but, um, it back yeah yeah it's going back at some point but uh jake needs to finish working on it i think he actually did put some work into it this week but nice um he's been covering for someone else this week as well so i don't think he put in as much work on it as he wanted to

hopefully we'll shoot another segment next week with like some actual benchmarks from alexander how have the creases been on your fold i have mine and it's getting horrible crease marks and the screen protector they say not to remove is starting to tear and crease funny you asked luke what do you see at the top of my screen oh it's starting to bubble out yeah this just happened you can actually probably see it from there. Yep. It just started to separate in the last maybe couple of weeks. So it made it a long time. I didn't even think the screen protector was removable, to be honest with you. I thought it was a permanent part of the display, but it appears to be not because you can kind

of see it coming away at the bottom here too. That's pretty rough. Should I try and peel it off all the way or no are you able to do that i i remember hearing very early on in this device's life that people didn't realize that it was actually like a part of the screen and they peeled it off and it broke things i thought that was the second gen one maybe i don't know actually can't remember twitch chat obviously is like yes now yeah i think i'll wait for someone a little more level-headed to to pitch in here should we do we have the new thing the polling system no oh all right well

never mind people are like yeah yeah float planes like no do not what web versions done but stop stop no it's not removable don't well that sucks then because it's gonna get to the point of not being very pleasant to use like this is clearly visible oh that's terrible actually yeah yeah like it's it's off uh okay that one's kind of hard to see from there but i have like the worst bump yeah i can it's yeah yeah it's like having an awful notch yeah or notch there we go yeah yeah if you do do it on stream all right forget it i mean that for sure on that one from michelle linus do you still like the unified doorbell you had installed at your old house that was latency do you have any experience with any other smart doorbells i don't have experience with other ones but what i know about the unified one is that it doesn't upload the comings and goings at my house

to anyone else and i like that i can the latency is i don't know it's usable usually i can catch people before they leave the door but as always it depends on your mobile data connection the the feature that was missing at the beginning that drove me crazy is the ability to replay with one touch the person coming and going. So a lot of the time, if I took 30 seconds to get to the notification, I would have to go painstakingly scrub and try and find the exact moment that someone came to the door. And it wasn't very good at expanding and shrinking the timeline back then but it's really good now so you can either look at it live and talk to them immediately or you can go back to the event and just see what it was because a lot of the time it's just someone

coming up bringing the doorbell leaving a package and going from micah we've actually gotten this question a few times do you have any thoughts on the matter smart home ecosystem. Yeah, I'm super stoked on it, but it's not ready yet. So for all the good it does me, I mean, that's the thing about technology, right? Is you can keep waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting for the next big thing around the corner or at some point you just have to buy something

and enjoy it. So that's what I decided to do. I went Z-Wave and we'll see how that goes. Yeah. There was a, there was a question in here that, that I don't know what happened to it, but it was asking me if I would ever consider building a mineral oil machine again. And I wanted to address that because I'm still thinking of ideas, but if my name ever gets drawn in the intel extreme thing uh i was thinking of making linus build another manoa machine as as a joke i've been actually considering it just because i think it would be so funny we have the facilities to probably do it as well

as puget or better now with the with the workshop and everything like it could actually be pretty sick um so i've been considering it but like i'm far from dedicating to it and i mean my name would have to be drawn and there's kind of a few people that work here now so it i mean it my name might just never be drawn so it might also just not happen um yeah yes definitely do that by the way somebody suggested a desk mineral oil pc so you can just combine both of linus's least favorite types of builds oh no oh no the amount of places that that could start leaking no not that one one of the really nice things about fish tanks is you usually try to find ones that are that are solid piece on the bottom so that there isn't like a seal point. That's often a very notable benefit. Use 3M Novec.

I mean, I guess if I'm getting the company to pay for it. I don't think you'll be able to afford it. Probably not. Not in that, but it's so expensive. Crazy expensive. There are some other alternative stuff these days that isn't as expensive as Novec. I would dive into it more if we

were actually doing it but yeah from exode have you guys heard anything about e-leap oled technology that came out about a month or so ago no but i saw this merch message ahead of time so i pulled up an article about it apparently it's from j Japan Display Inc. It allows much, much brighter OLEDs and with better longevity. And apparently it's not just a lab experiment. This is actual display technology that they are ready to start shipping sooner rather than later. It sounds really exciting. Sounds like between QD OLED from Samsung and LG juicing up their existing OLED and Japan display, unveiling this new method of making OLED TVs that things are about to get, competition's about to get fierce,

which is always good for pricing for the consumer. Very good. So I'm jacked. From Aaron. Hello, Linus and Luke. Hope the new house construction is going smoothly. What are your thoughts on manufacturing or manufactured moving to smart bulbs

and Internet of Things in terms of cybersecurity? It's bad. But I want to try it. It's like a problem. So I'm going to do it. Basically. IoT botnets. IoT botnets.

IoT botnets. Woo! From Christopher Have you seen all the new stuff from Aya The slide, Neo2, Flip, etc Yes What can I say Yes Yes

What's the Flip They're doing so much right now I cannot figure out How they have all the money that they need to work on all these projects. They've got an Indiegogo campaign going right now for, oh, which one is it? I can't remember which one, but there's a campaign running right now.

I'll just check my WeChat. Clamshell Windows Handheld. Interesting. Yeah, they've got some really cool stuff going on right now. Is it dual screen? I'm not seeing very good pictures. Yeah, the Air is the one they have in Indiegogo campaign. It's funded already.

As far as I can tell, it's less about actually getting funding and more about taking pre-orders and marketing and all that kind of stuff. The Air looks pretty sick. Looking forward to checking that out i think they should start doing it on their own site so they can stop paying indiegogo for doing almost nothing but that's just my opinion kitty kitty in floatplane chat says hey linus and luke hear me out solid block of acrylic machined out i was i've had a lot of funky ideas i was i was thinking potentially even custom glass can you get a solid block of acrylic probably i don't know solid acrylic blocks i mean here let's

uh let's learn shall we i mean that thing looks big i don't know i can never i can never tell looks big i don't know i can never i can never tell this is one by one by one inch like i want a big one like that would be heavy you know at a certain point even just you know cheap crappy acrylic or whatever gets heavy lucite block okay this is all just like cute little decorative stuff. Okay, large acrylic block. Acrylic cylinders up to eight feet in size. Now we're talking. Oh, no, that's not quite what I had in mind. Okay, then.

I don't know what came up. Acrylic blocks out water okay well those are like windows or something clear extra large block well clearly this requires a little bit more work than what I was willing to put into it live

acrylic can apparently also be cast hmm hmm cool alright live acrylic can apparently also be cast cool all right as a follow-up to the ionia question and you pulling it out earlier have you still been using the steam deck i prefer the ionio i like the smaller more compact shape of it one thing that's really cool about the steam deck though is the way that the thermal mod that we did on it unlocks extra performance that was pretty sick but yes i've been using the ionio pro um i forget is that what this one's called ionio ionio next pro sorry that's the that's the one that I've been using.

And a big part of it, honestly, is that I'm just lazy. I don't like setting things up more than once. And the OS drive that I have in there is one of those eight terabyte Sabrent ones. So I can just dump absolutely everything onto it. Emulated games, Steam games, whatever. It's all just dumped onto here. I never have to think about it i don't set it up again i just each ioneo i just pull it out and put it into the next one that's pretty sweet so i got a system here that's cool in that same beat uh there was a question for luke did you cancel your steam deck pre-order or have you been tempted by Aya products? I actually have been tempted by Aya products for some reasons that honestly shouldn't necessarily matter too much. But I think aesthetically, they just look awesome.

Like that retro one you showed off was so cool. It was just sweet. They're just kind of nerds. They are geeks or whatever the right term is. You can tell. Yeah. Just awesome. I have not canceled it. At this point, I'm not feeling super motivated to buy,

but I've had a bunch of friends say like, hey, like I would like pay the purchase cost if you could get it for me. And I'm like, okay, well, I'll hold my reservation. I'm not going to like- You're going to scalp it? me. And I'm like, okay, well, I'll hold my reservation. I'm not going to like... You're going to scalp it? No. You're going to scalp it, Luke?

No, I'm not going to scalp it. You're going to be a filthy, dirty, rotten, ugly, awful, stinky scalper? We got a little specific there at the end. No, but I might like... I don't think you're ugly. Yeah, thank you. It's appreciated. But yeah, it's very likely I'll hand it off to someone else in my life that was unable to get a reservation.

So, yeah. Yeah, don't scalp, but just know I will pay double. I will. Bell, you're part of the problem, officially. Sorry. From Keith, is there any recent books you've read and enjoyed for either of you? I don't find nearly enough time to read. I read a lot of articles.

I keep up with world events a lot more than I used to. But my problem with reading is that the second I start something, it's unlikely that I will sleep until I finish it. And so I'm afraid to pick up new books because it kind of destroys my life for a couple of days. I know that's like a really horrible, cop-out, stupid response to that, but I don't read much fiction for that reason. I'm going to also cop out slightly but i will give two books um these were uh tyler and i used to share book recommendations back in the day

and these were my two favorite ones that he ever suggested to me one of them is uprooted by uh naomi novik and the other one is barsk the elephant's graveyard by lawrence m showen uh those were those were some of the first books that he ever recommended to me and they are both fantastic. I would highly recommend them. Oh. Matthew B. says, I took the protector off my Fold 3 due to the same issue. It's basically just a normal protector.

Just take it off slow. It's nothing inbuilt that ruins the display. Should I go for it? YOLO. Do it. F*** it. We'll do it live. Yeet.

Okay. Are we ready? Oh, I guess... Do you need a tool? Do you need something to help? You're just gonna go at it. I think I'm just gonna go at it. I mean, there's enough of a gap there. I feel like I can just get a fingernail in it, you know? Whoa. Wait a second. Did you hear that sound when I opened it?

I didn't. Did you hear that? There, that sound? The opened it? I didn't. Did you hear that? Like, there, that sound? The whole thing came off. Whoa. Look at that. There's a whole line that is separated down the middle. That just happened.

So it's like sticking. Oh, wow. And unsticking. That's super audible when you put it up to the mic. Yeah, maybe it wasn't so much that I heard it as that I felt it when I did it. So here, hold on. I'm just going to... I'll turn so you guys can see if it busts it, and you'll be the first to know.

Okay. Oh, okay. No, that's... Yeah, that's no problem. That appears to be just a screen protector. I'm kind of impressed it lasted this long then. Yeah. Well, where do I get a new one now?

Like, does Samsung make this screen protector available? Because it's pretty good. It actually feels very glass-like. Honestly, I think I kind of like the feel of the screen protector better than the screen itself. Here, try out both. Yeah, it feels like smoother almost. Yeah.

I don't know why. Maybe there's some adhesive on the screen or something. No, I don't think so. It's just it's a very plasticky screen because it's not glass, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes sense. Interesting. All right.

Oh, hey, it looks nice and clean now so that's cool bring up some content here oh got some bob's burgers you know i haven't seen the movie yet i'm gonna go see there's a movie yeah there's a bob's burgers movie i did not know yeah bob's burgers sound like a moment right now all right from i blow it sports and your earbuds in and you've mentioned it today as well uh i do the same with my sony xm4 earbuds let me fall asleep with audiobooks are you concerned at all about long-term hearing loss about using headphones while sleeping oh oh specifically i whatever asks mentions mentions noise cancellation. No, I can't say I've ever had any concerns about that.

I haven't noticed any problems up until now. I don't turn them up, that's for sure. And I don't think that they would be counteracting any strong sound waves coming in if I'm just sleeping with them. To be perfectly honest with you, I have thought about before and meant to research it, and I do not know the answer to the question of whether active noise cancellation, you know, when, so you've got the wave, right? And then you've got the wave that cancels it out, whether it actually mitigates any damage that would be done to your ear by

a very loud noise i i don't i don't know the answer to that um maybe someone else does uh seems like it would be fine something i'd throw in there is because we're just because we're talking about like not a doctor hearing loss and stuff like that. Something that I've been concerned about is the bunnies. They can sometimes be really loud. Yeah. And they sit right next to me all the time.

So I've started to be concerned about that. I might be looking into... I don't want to because I love my headphones, but I might be looking into closed back headphones or something to try to isolate from I don't want to because I love my headphones, but I might be looking into closed-back headphones or something to try to isolate from the budgies. They're often fine, but when they're real amped up for whatever reason on some day

and they're just like... Sometimes when I call, they're just like... Oh, my goodness. Yeah. So when they're just like Oh my goodness Yeah so when they're in like that mood Um Yeah I get a little concerned Because I think they can go up to like 70

Decibels I would say they're probably higher than that Yeah I don't know Um I'm gonna look it up Budgies Apparently yeah about 70 About 70 yeah I'm going to look it up. Budgies.

Apparently, yeah, about 70. About 70, yeah. Wow, lovebirds will hit 83? Some birds can get really up there. I mean, they got to get that love out there, you know? I think the luck with the budgie is it's literally too small to produce any more noise. It's like physically incapable they weigh 30 grams like there's only so much they can accomplish uh yeah wow all right question here from alex linus have you made a decision on your main tv and your gaming monitor yet have you looked at

the sony a95k ah there will be a video on that very soon i can spoil it for you a little the sony is really really nice like wow really nice one of the one of my pro arts died one of my like super old school pro arts really yeah so one of them's still working and then my like main gaming monitor is obviously fine yeah one of the pro arts is out and then my like main gaming monitor is obviously fine. Yeah. One of the Pro Arts is out. And I don't like being down to two monitors. So I've been trying to figure out like, do I like splurge and get a new gaming monitor? Do you go big?

Do I go big? Do you go multiple? Do I get a third again? If I could cheap out and just buy like another 24-inch 1080p monitor for like nothing and just get a third monitor up again that's probably fine like i probably what i'll do that's probably what i'll do because i was thinking about upgrading the gaming monitor but i honestly like it has all the features that i really want right now i like 1440p gaming 5 hertz isn't it yeah yeah 165 hertz 1440p they have 4k 240s now i can't run most games at that anyway no one can samsung samsung uh has a display that'll do 4k 240 hertz i'm sitting here going sweet what's

that for what can run that yeah exactly so like i i i think i still feel like my monitor is still at kind of a sweet spot i have really liked 1440p and really high refresh rate. So it's fine. So yeah, I'll probably just buy a cheap extra monitor. But yeah. Just wait till you see the QD OLED monitors. Yeah. They'll spoil you forever.

Yeah. Really nice. Yeah. But then like, those aren't really a thing, you know, right now. Yeah, there's only one. Yeah. So like, I think now is not the time. Yeah.

From Kyle. Uh, from Kyle. Hi Linus. What do you think about electric motorcycles? Like the zero lineup, any chance we'll see them on LTTO short circuit? I wanted to like the zero motorbike that I went and test drove. Um,

here, hold on. I'm going to bring it up and I'll see if I can, I'll see if I can find the one I test drove. I, I think think you know we've gotten to the point where range has gotten reasonable enough that they make sense i think that zero has some models that look really cool this is the srs i believe it was like a year ago or two years ago model that i that i tried but this was basically the one that I test drove. It is wicked fast. Where's the actual specs here? 140 foot pounds of torque, 110 horsepower. There's an upgrade to a 17.3 kilowatt hour battery. Where's the acceleration top speed 124 miles an hour you

do not need to go faster than that i will tell you that much ladies and gentlemen full specs do they have like a 0 to 60 or anything like that in here range oh my goodness where's your 0 to 60 why do you not have a zero to 60 like front and center the only reason i can think of is because maybe it's bad but the point is it's very torquey i actually walked into the i walked into the dealership like with the money already funding secured you know like i had a combination of cash debit and credit that would allow me to just buy one walk out that day. And I was going to just do it. And Yvonne was like, Okay, you need to test drive it. I'm like, no, no, it's cool. And my bike is like, it needs a whole bunch of work. And I just want to sell it and start over with something fresh. I want to go electric, I want to be able to just like charge

the bike, not go to the gas station. I hate going to the gas station on the bike. It's just a hassle. It's got all your gear and everything just sucks. So I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do it electric motorcycle. She's like, you need to test drive. I'm like, I didn't make an appointment. I'm just gonna I'll just buy it. Okay, turns out one of the people who worked there, one of the sales representatives was a fan was like, we'll find you an appointment because this was peak COVID times, right? So it must have been a year ago. And yeah, yeah yeah to book everything in advance and there's only three people allowed in the store and blah blah blah blah blah or whatever right so i take it out for the ride and they put it in the equivalent of chill mode i don't know that's

the tesla terminology for it but basically it's not like super crazy torquey they put it in chill mode and i'm riding down the road and i'm like, wow, this is really soulless. It's like boring. So I turn it up to whatever the next notch is and then turn up another notch. And it's just sucks. So I got back to the dealership where they were expecting to take my money for a bike and instead i booked an appointment to bring in my sv uh sv 650s uh it's 2003 it's nothing special it's worth like nothing now um to bring in my sv 650s and spend more than it's actually worth on just getting it full

new tires new chain just i needed a whole bunch of stuff brought it in got it done up and i've been happily riding it this season so glad that i did not go for an electric bike i just i can't it's i'm not even i'm not even a motorhead i'm not even like i don't i don't i don't need that stuff. But it just... I drive a Volt for crying out loud. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. Last question here from Oliver

and again, a few other people, surprisingly. What was the motivation behind switching from Google Workspace to Teams for Communication at LMG? Well, Google kept telling us Hangouts was going to go away, and it's still not gone. They're still, it even seems like they're pushing it. They've added development. Have you seen this crap?

Look at this, okay? I go to share something, watch this. I go to share, and I'm like, Gmail. Oh, okay, well, oh wait, what just happened? Not Teams, what the, what was that? That doesn't matter. The point is, I go to share something, okay. Well, oh wait, what just happened? Not, what the, what was that? That doesn't matter. The point is I go to share something. Okay.

Watch this. I click Gmail. It's like, do you mean Gmail chat? No, I don't mean chat. I mean, Gmail, you even have a separate icon for Gmail chat. You saw it. I swear. I swear you saw it next to it before, right?

The Gmail chat one. Sure. Yes. Like, no, why are you adding an extra click i'm trying to email something you are not chat anymore you told me you're not chat anymore and like the the the way that google has dealt with their chat systems like part part of this question is would you consider switching back it's like no trust them yeah exactly um because like moving an entire company to a new chat system is like really frustrating and genuinely has a cost to it um so like no you

don't really want to do that um would i have suggested teams no well you tried slack and it was a nightmare i don't understand i i was not getting notifications i was not getting notifications for teams i literally showed you a screenshot that i got a notification on teams 172 days late i have a screenshot of this it literally says in the thing like how long ago did this message come in 172d as in days teams is. Teams is a dumpster fire. Yes. It is. I know.

But we tried Slack and it didn't work. So I don't know what to tell you. We've also had a lot of notifications problem with Slack. I would say that recently it's been a lot better. But yeah, we had notification problems a lot in the past as well. Yeah.

Lapsed memory says Google had such a head start in the collab workspace and they just squandered it really it wasn't that long ago that office 365 was a joke and now does anyone use anything else yeah yeah it's the same kind of thing with MSN Messenger. Microsoft had Discord. And not just Discord. Microsoft had MySpace and Facebook too. MSN Messenger had a social network. Yeah, they had everything. They could have owned everything.

Like actually, they just tossed it. I mean, while we're at it, Zoom. Oh, yeah, yeah yeah yeah and i think that's it for the show today thank you guys very much for tuning in we will see again next week same bad time same terrible channel but you like it you know you like it. Bye. Bye. If you haven't got a stealth hoodie yet, there may even be sizes that are out of stock now. How many did I say we moved yesterday? 400?

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