The WAN Show - Intel's Desperate Price CUTS - WAN Show Oct 4, 2019

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

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Wait, did we edit the restream? No. But it's streaming on YouTube, so someone must have done it. Maybe AJ did it? I don't know. I guess we'll find out if we are live. Hi everyone! Hey! Welcome to the WAN Show!

We're off to a fantastic start today. We've got a lot of great topics for you. We just finished filming Scrapyard War, so in the coming moments, we're going to be giving you all the spoilers. I'm totally kidding. It's going to be like two months before everything's out, but we had a lot of fun. That's what

we were shooting all week. We'll give you the details. I had no fun. I actually didn't have any fun. Maybe we'll talk a little bit about it. What else we got going on? Oh, yes. AMD's prices are rising. Intel's prices are getting slashed.

It turns out competition works, doesn't it? What else we got going on? There's some Googles getting sued for a whole ton of money, and a whole ton of people are going to be getting like 750 pounds pounds or 925 US dollars each. What, really?

Oh yeah, it's huge. We'll talk about that later. Also, Microsoft dual screen devices. They recently had a product launch, or not product launch, an announcement thing. And there's some actually genuinely pretty interesting devices coming out of there's some really cool looking stuff microsoft has been a fun company for a while first let's look at the intro whoa wow

so wow amazing graphics Wow Wow Wow. Okay. I'd be lying if I said there's not a little bit of salt from this season of Scrapyard Wars. Do you think it's fair to say this is the most dramatic we've had? And I mean drama in like a salty sense. Salty drama. No.

You don't think so? Four. Which one was four? Oh, with Paul and Kyle? No, no, no, no. That was five. That was five. There was a fair bit there.

Four was Bob and Rod. Because that was the only time there's been aesthetic. So there was a lot of chirping because of the aesthetic. Yeah, I guess there's that. You know what? I don't think it was like genuine drama, though. We'll let chirping because of the aesthetic. Yeah, I guess there's that. You know what? I don't think it was like genuine drama, though. We'll let you guys be the judge. I don't know.

You guys were kind of dicks. So were you guys. So maybe there was some genuine drama. Why don't we jump right into our title topic to start with, just because people seem to like that for some reason. I can't imagine why. So the source here is from Anand Tech. Intel has slashed the pricing

of their high-end HEDT processors. That's not to say that the pricing of the CPUs that were already on the market are going anywhere. It's just that in much the same way that they used to do, like back in the day when they kind of just released new chips that were faster, just for the lulls of it a lot of the time it seemed, they have come in and they're giving you kind of, you know, something similar for less money or something better for the same amount of money,

and schwomp, here it comes. So here's the summary. And schwomp, here it comes. So here's the summary. The astonishingly stupidly named Core i9-10980XE. Whew. That's a name. It's something.

I don't think it's a name. Because there are actually more numbers than there are letters in there. That's a number. Are there? Hold on a second. We got six numbers. We got, oh, we got seven letters. letters never mind it is technically more name than number more more number now than man twisted um so we get a small base clock or excuse me we get no base clock boost hold on a second here yes

we do hold on no right here's the specs uh we get an Hold on. No, right. Here's the specs. We get an all-core boost of 3.8 gigahertz. We get turbo boost 2 of 4.6 and turbo boost 3 of 4.8. And this is a 165-watt part. But none of that's exceptional. That is very similar to the 9980XC we already had. What is exceptional is that it is now half the price. It is $980 instead of a cool two grand. And I remember talking about this.

Back when Intel launched their 18-core flagship, I was like, hold on a second. You guys didn't launch, like you guys didn't launch a new generation. This is not a new, it is a new flagship. How do I explain this? You guys didn't replace, you know, the previous flagship. You guys just, shut shut up it was loud yeah

sorry um you guys didn't replace the previous flagship you just like added a new flagship on top of it because thousand dollars was basically the extreme edition price for the longest time and they were like lol here's one for two grand and so i'm looking looking at this going, you guys clearly haven't innovated. It's like you have two different categories. Yeah, you just went and took a server product that was like super, super scarce, hard to make, and you made it a desktop product, and you just charged way more for it. Like, okay, I guess that's a strategy if, you know, all of a sudden AMD has Threadripper, and you're like, oh, hold on a second, what do you do?

Scramble. So anyway, now that AMD has, and nothing against first gen Ryzen or first gen Threadripper or any of that stuff, nothing against those chips, but they were competitive, but they weren't class leading. Except at the lower end where, where yes they were class leading but only in certain workloads now second gen then is class leading in many workloads and then very close in one of those some of the ones that intel has traditionally been very dominant in so intel for the first times i'm trying to remember the last time because intel is one of those companies where a lot of the way they sell product and you can interpret this however you want frankly i don't care but a lot of the way that they sell product

is not by the specs and the price and any mature company wants to get to that point. That is a comfortable position to be in, where instead of having to scrap it out, like you look at entry-level Android phones, instead of having to scrap it out over who has two more pixels per inch on their display and who has eight more megapixels on their rear camera or whatever the case may be,

you want people to buy your phone because you made it, not because it's like slightly better, more spec here. You want that trust and that- I've bought this thing three times in the past. It's worked well for me every time. I'm gonna do it again. So a lot of Intel's sales strategy is not around just like having the highest gigahertz.

It's marketing. It's building partnerships. It's building infrastructure and logistics to actually be able to distribute chips all over the world. I mean, it's all fine and good to have a great CPU. But if no one in Europe can get their hands on it at a reasonable price, then that doesn't do you any good. So it's all those more businessy, corporatey things that they're well established and that they're very good at, you know, forecasting, making sure they have enough chips. Although it's been a bit of a rough year as far as that goes. For both of them, apparently.

But generally speaking, those are things that Intel's been very good at and they tend to be quite aloof to you know a particular skew that you know performs quite well and is selling quite well like even back when i was at ncix you know amd would have chips that moved really well like i remember the phenom 720 black or something like that this was an unlocked triple core, if I recall correctly. Please don't quote me on that. But that thing moved like bilio because AMD had lots of cheap motherboard options out there so you could get, I mean, not amazing, but you could get a feature complete,

like a good enough motherboard for like 70 bucks. I remember that. Like 72, $73 dollars like somewhere in that range you throw one of these triple cores on there and all of a sudden you've got something that games well enough and it's got like one more core than you were gonna have if you went intel and it's like hey this is this is a pretty good time especially at this price point yeah yeah at that price point it was outstanding and intel took forever to counter it because they were just like, we're not going to trade pot shots on a skew-by-skew basis.

We're just going to have a stack, and we're going to market ourselves as a solution provider, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So the last time that I can remember them responding this directly to a competitive threat has to be Athlon 64. I mean, and even then, even then, Intel went to market. When AMD launched the Athlon FX 51, okay, Intel responded with an extreme edition chip. I think it was like a Gallatin Core Pentium 4

with hyper-threading like 3.46 gigahertz, like furnace of a chip And it was like it was based on their server something something like it was actually kind of a similar response, but get this It was slower. It wasn't as good but they priced it on par with AMD's offering as if to make a statement that like It's Intel. It's our bestest bestest thing therefore you know it's it costs that much and people will buy it and you know what people did buy it i remember i used to i used to spend so much time on online forums just like um helping people

configure systems because it was a hobby for me you still spend oh not doing that but you still spend a fair amount well yeah okay but like specifically yeah i was the kind of person who hung out in what was the then equivalent of r slash build a pc and just waited for people to i was sitting there waiting for people to post what they wanted to do with their system and i'd put together a recommended spec list and then i'd get so i would argue with people about their configurations because people would come in and they'd be like, I'm going to buy this Extreme Edition Pentium thing. And I'm like, that's dumb. And they're like, yeah, but I want Intel. I like Intel.

I'm like, no, no, no. You don't like Intel. Intel is not, they're not emotional. They don't reciprocate your love. And to be clear, AMD is no different. Don't kid yourself. They don't reciprocate your love. You are a customer.

That's the relationship here. And so you should not be buying what is objectively worse for the same price. And they go, well, it doesn't make that much of a difference. You know, it's like five percent different in this game and ten percent different in that game you'd never notice and i go who cares why would you ever knowingly get less for your money like that is offensive to me on such a such a deep level to go in and like knowingly eyes wide open be like here is more of my money please give me less of something worse thank you this has been a tremendous transaction um

but even at even at the darkest time there's some okay there's some stuff if you were trying to evaluate based off of this has never really been that big of a problem for CPUs but if you're trying to evaluate based off of like, okay, I've had experience with their customer support or I've had experience with reliability. That's totally different. I know and I know that's not what you're commenting on. CPUs are all pretty darn reliable. Both AMD and Intel

kind of have it mostly nailed down. Yes, so it's kind of irrelevant here. I'm just saying in general, some of those arguments can have some validity to it but usually no. I just always used to get so mad because Intel would do these things and they would just get away with it. I mean, the number of people. So I was working PC advisor at NCIX when, and I'm changing gears a little bit here, when NVIDIA launched the GTX 480, which was a steaming pile of hot garbage, literally hot. Maybe not literally garbage, but given how many of them probably burned themselves into

a crisp, I'm sure quite a few of them ended up in the electronic scrap heap for scrap gold recovery. And I would just hate that people are like, no, no, I need GeForce. People would have legitimate reasons, like look, I'm a CUDA developer. I'm like, okay, well then you should probably buy four GTX 480s and cram your PCI Express slots

full of GTX 480s. But people who are like, yeah, I'm playing this game or that game, it always made me so mad. It was actually because of my insistence that my position as pc advisor was a non-commissioned position because that way i could be free to tell people whatever they actually needed to know yeah and when they asked me are you on commission which many did many people asked me if i was a valid question i would always say no because i wasn't i did get a monthly bonus for being the PC advisor, but it was a flat monthly bonus.

I just got like $300 a month or something like that for monitoring that email address. What else was I going to talk about? Yeah, oh, just fanboys really make me mad. I remember this one time. I was doing, yeah. I freaked out on stream not that long ago. Like actually had close to a breakdown

because there was this giant war going on on the stream about Linux versus Windows. And I was trying to get it to just stop for so long, and it just wouldn't stop. And then I just kind of spazzed a little bit and was like, shut up. It's whatever's proper for that situation. They both have positives and benefits.

And it was funny because not that long after you released that video. People were so mad about that video. Like the funny thing is I would love to see the numbers for what percentage of the people who were mad about that video daily drive Windows. And to be clear, I know Windows isn't perfect. There's problems with Microsoft's data collection. There's problems with basic functionality not working. Do you remember how long it took them to get the start menu working? It still has some issues in my opinion. It still has some issues, but remember when it just actually didn't work at all? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the search is so bad. It is shockingly bad.

Like, I am- The search is so much better in Windows 7. Holy cow. I am far from an expert programmer. Let's get that out of the way. But I am pretty sure, I am pretty sure that it would be fairly straightforward for Microsoft to create some kind of daemon that runs and just

indexes every file name of every and like sorts it by okay. These are executables These are probably the most important ones. These are batch files These are probably less important and just searches against that it would be You're instantaneous and if you can't do it And so even when it does turn up the right result, you'll type something in, and four seconds later, it comes up the result. It comes up with some stupid result,

and you're about to click the right thing, and it shifts and moves, and you click the wrong thing, and you're like, what are you actually doing? I don't know. Very recently on my work PC, which is the only computer I work on that is running Windows 10, I even ripped Windows 10 off my laptop, which now it doesn't even, like, some of the Razer stuff

is all derped out because of that, but whatever. I typed in mouse because I wanted to check something with my mouse and it showed the actual, like, mouse settings thing for a second and then it disappeared entirely and just nothing was there. So I deleted the word and retyped mouse

and then it showed up properly and I was like, okay, where would it go? Do you want to search the web for mouse? No. Why did it leave? If I wanted to search the web for mouse, I would have opened my Chrome browser and searched the web for mouse. Which is probably already open because that's how people use

computers now. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, browsers are always open. I remember that now. I remember I used to get really annoyed with my mom because like back in the windows 3.1 windows 95 days she didn't understand the difference between minimize and exit so i would always get onto the computer and it would be super chuggy because everything's she had minimized absolutely everything she was doing and i was like yo like my program can't run because you are using literally all the computer's memory. She'd be like, I closed it all.

I'm like, oh, no. Anyway, where I was going with the fanboy thing is I remember one of the most frustrating systems I ever had to build was on this motherboard. This was like a super niche um, where is it?

Where's the pictures? Come on tom's hardware what do you what you got going on here really throwing this video all over the place though yeah i know right um oh this is really annoying it was this super niche platform uh socket 1207 socket f this was oh my god know. Scroll up a little bit. Just pause right there. This is all ads. Wow. All this, all this, all this, all this, and all this is ads.

Holy cow. I just... I just had to see that for a second. That is actually... It's almost admirable at a certain point. That is actually, it's almost admirable at a certain point. Like they have crammed more ad in there than I would have thought possible. So they need to be congratulated for that, I guess. Here it is.

So this was like the stupidest motherboard ever. Can I find a picture of this thing? So AMD adapted their server platform, which wasn't completely dead at the time, even though their desktop was like dying a fast death in terms of competitiveness, and was like, okay, we're going to go after Intel on core count. And they built this platform called 4x4. So I don't know why they called it 4x4.

Maybe it was four PCI Express slots. Four... cores times two sockets. I don't know. Anyway, you could put two quad-core processors in it, if I recall correctly. And I remember building this system, and just, like, it driving me absolutely nuts

because the thing was so overpriced. Is that a 24-pin, 24 pin like mid near yeah the design of the board is terrible because i'm sure they rushed this thing because no one like they knew that's rough like a few hundred people were gonna buy it like nobody was gonna buy this stupid thing the performance was terrible the power consumption was terrible and i was just like looking at it going again why why would anybody buy this and it was it was like not it was just like looking at it going why why would anybody buy this and it was it was like not it was not a great board because what tends to happen at the very high end you can buy a six seven eight hundred dollar motherboard and get a very very poor

experience because the thing is the bios development that goes into a board is kind of not quite but kind of the same regardless of whether you sell 500 of them 5,000 50,000 or 500,000 of them and so it's like okay well where do we sink the the little bit of extra polish into the one that's going to turn into 500 annoyed customers on the asus forum or the one that's going to turn into 500,000 annoyed customers on the asus forum uh duh like it's usually better to buy the mainstream thing than the super halo niche thing from my experience. Yeah, I was just going to say,

LTT has had experience with that many times actually. Here we go. Especially back in the house. I remember that quite a few times. AMD's QuadFX, technically quad core. Oh wait, no, hold on. Each physical, never mind. It was dual cores and then two sockets so that you had a total of four cores of course you're dealing with

numa nodes and like let's go ahead and have a look at what the performance looked like compared to here's gaming performance so this was a gaming machine i was building like it's just so I'd have people say well, it's not that far behind Conroe. It's like So what it is behind and it's a terrible value Where's the power consumption numbers? It's like just this thing was just such a shart, you know Performance per watt is literally double on the QX6700. And remember, guys, this is an extreme edition. This is already a dumb CPU that no one should be buying. Those were, okay, those were given out as Intel Retail Edge Program things, though. Later.

This was still early. Okay. Yeah, that was much later. Because I was going to say, those ended up being on market for pretty cheap because a lot of people bought them and then flipped them. Much later. And these CPUs, the top-end one was $ $1,000 and you had to buy two of them. And it goes up against $1,000 for a single CPU and just gets utterly destroyed. So it made me so mad to build this thing. So this was... Anyway, I'm finally coming around to the point of this story.

to build this thing. So this was, anyway, I'm finally coming around to the point of this story. Arrogance. Every company seems to go through this. They seem to have a cycle where they're firing all cylinders and they kill it. And then they just are like, well, I don't have to drop my price.

I don't have to worry about delivering great value for the dollar because I can ride on the brand that I just spent the last few years creating. And so AMD did get to sell some of these FX70 class processors for presumably reasonable margin. Although actually, I don't actually know that. By the time they like develop this thing and market it and then sell like a few dozen of them, maybe it was a total loss.

I don't know. I'm not sure. But they get to sell these processors. Maybe it was a total loss. I don't know. I'm not sure. But they get to sell these processors. And then people get told they're idiots by their friends for having this stupid computer that doesn't make any sense.

And then you create a bad taste. I don't understand why. Whether it's AMD, back when they were coming out of their dominance with FX and got totally destroyed by Conroe. And then they're trying to still charge a bunch of money for it or whether it's Intel with Skylake and Skylake derivatives being under pressure for so long not just like immediately reacting and that

take to heart some of the specific words in that story and apply them to earlier on where he said like you shouldn't be a fanboy of whatever and I also include that to the other team. Like, Intel is not your friend. And AMD is not your friend. Also no. Also no.

There's been a lot of marketing around, like, yeah, stick it to the man, but they are also the man. We want them to be doing very good, because competition is very good, as we also mentioned earlier, but, yeah. Now, I want to go ahead and acknowledge that our title for today's video was a little bit clickbaity because everything that I've said about Intel's desperation

is false, pretty much. Intel's not desperate. Something that you guys have to understand is that AMD has made up a lot of ground in the last two to three years, a ton of ground, and it's exciting, and it's causing, it's making great gaming PCs cheaper than ever for PC gamers around the world, and it's exciting and it's causing it's making game great gaming pcs cheaper than ever for pc gamers around the world and it's fantastic and we love it and if there was ever an

emotional attachment that i could have to a company like amd it would be that i'm super pleased that they came back fighting hard and that the consumer is benefiting from it yeah But Intel is not against the ropes. Don't kid yourself. AMD made up a bunch of ground. That doesn't mean that their product stack, once Intel just slashes prices, like that was the only lever they actually had to pull to go back to being competitive again. It's not like this is an AMD,

this isn't an FX bloodbath where they've got the clear performance crown when it comes to gaming and Intel has no response. So we finally have the response in spite of Intel being, in my opinion, far too slow to react to it. And that is to take their HEDT lineup and make the pricing sensible.

So they have gotten rid of all this stupid stuff that made no sense do you remember that quad core that was on their hedt socket what was this 7740 or something stupid like that they had some really weird so it was architecturally a generation behind but it had like a way higher power delivery limit and it was like this like overclockers only skew that they killed in like four months and we were were like, what even is this? What are you doing? Like you're muddying the positioning. You're already confusing stuff.

And when they started segmenting HDDT by putting fewer PCI Express lanes on them, what are you guys doing? You are literally lasering off functionality that was on that chip for the sake of artificial product segmentation so that people are incentivized to buy one with more cores or whatever. No, just let people buy what they actually want to buy.

And at least we finally got a sensible product stack. So anywhere from four. Except for the name. Except for the name. Anywhere from four to eight cores. That's on your mainstream platform. Anything from 10 to 18 cores, that is on your HDD platform. And we are finally back to pricing that I considered outrageous

back when they first announced their $1,000 Extreme Edition. Or actually, if I recall correctly, AMD did it first with the FX51. But pricing that I thought was ridiculous, but now feels like coming back down to Earth after we've been dealing with $2,000 flagship SKUs. So we've got this very sensible pricing structure where you go, okay, I want more than eight cores. I guess I'm moving to HEDT.

We've got nice high boost clocks on all of these which is great they should all game really really well and you pay basically about a hundred bucks a core or excuse me for two cores as you move through 10 12 and 14 they killed the 16 core the conspiracy theory is that's to avoid direct comparisons to am. Oh, really? Yeah, to the 3950X, which would be hilarious. That could make sense. And so you're paying $100 for another four cores to get the 18 core. The non-conspiracy theory version of that is that maybe by the time the chip is binned high enough for 16 core, it could have just as easily been an 18 core.

So they might as well just kill that and take any of the ones that were borderline and move them down and move them up yeah um but yeah i i like this i am super happy with this when 10 000 series geez 10 is out 10 uh i'll be five generations behind really yeah you're still running a 5960x yeah huh you know it's funny I was running a 5960X until like a week ago, two weeks ago. You didn't upgrade? I went AMD. Oh. That video is coming soon.

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And Elemental is going away as of this fire sale. Once this is over, they are gone and good riddance. With that said, I think it would be hilarious to like bring them back like a year from now or two years from now. And not even try to sell them at full price. Just bring them back as a stupid fire sale item. So there you go, guys. It might come back.

It won't be for a long time, though. So get yours now. They're super comfy. You guys have a lot of stuff on the store now. There's a lot of options. Nick and I were talking about it today. I think we're going to start killing some of the designs. So that's sort of a general thing

to be aware of, guys. If there's some older designs that you like, make sure you keep an eye on them. Make sure we don't run out of your size. Circuit board's going away next. Yeah, circuit board's going to be

the one that goes away next. So keep an eye on that. Circuit board. Oh, yeah. The circle logo. That makes sense. I really like the Cran that circuit board uh yeah oh yeah that makes sense i really like the cranberry circuit board one yeah let's see if i can find it yeah but that makes that's what clothing

brands do yep makes sense it does look dated now compared to the newer designs though and it does like yep and it's it's nice but it does look a little dated now um Yay! Ggstore.com! Yeah! All right, so in other processor pricing news, demand for AMD processors has reached the point where retailers are now hiking up the prices daily. Our source for this is kitguru.net and techspot.com. US pricing lists this chip for as high as $800 on Amazon and Newegg,

up from the MSRP of $499. Like, to put that in perspective, that is the same price that the 16-core is supposed to come in at, and that's just the 12-core. Yeah, that's the Ryzen 9 3900X. Yeah, that's freaking awesome. Good for AMD and retailers. That's the Ryzen 9 3900X. Yeah, that's freaking awesome. Good for AMD and retailers.

AMD confirmed a shortage and announced a delay on the Ryzen 3950X. I believe that was last week. So you know what? That was a controversial thing that I just said there. Yeah, good for... Good for AMD, good for the retailers. Actually, not so much good for AMD because they probably haven't increased their pricing, but it's also not that cut and dried. So when there is a great product that people want, that is good for the people selling the product. And there's going to be people that are mad.

It's more than MSRP. Here's the thing you got to understand. Whether you're buying RAM or whether you're buying computer processors, you are basically buying a commodity. If you don't want to buy a commodity buy a Mac They're not a commodity because they build value around the product in other ways But if you're buying a computer processor This is one of the reasons that it makes me so mad When people go out of their way to spend more for less because you are buying a commodity item. There is no like You know

It's not like a car where you could you could pay more for leather seats because you just like leather seats this is this is a processor it crunches numbers it spits out fps's or rendered videos and it does so at a rate that we can very easily measure and compare and you pay a price for it that is very transparent and out there. It's generally just a price and performance equation. That's all it is. And like we said earlier, there's some components that aren't quite that simple, but yeah.

So I'm taking a moment to congratulate AMD and their retailers on for a change. For once in the last five years, having something to make some margin on. Actually, I shouldn't say that. GPUs were obviously a margin opportunity. Because I'll tell you guys, the computer retail business is really tough. I've had so many people ask me over the years, you guys have the expertise, you have the industry relationships, you have the facility,

why don't you guys like become a system integrator? Why don't you build systems and like sell gaming systems online? Because we are every bit as capable of configuring a freaking gaming system as Many of the system integrators that are out there and I was like because I'm not gonna put all the work into Building the logistics and the packaging and the human resources management and all this all this stuff I'm not gonna. I'm not to dump those resources in to make 6% net margin if I'm lucky. That's bad.

That's a terrible, terrible business. And honestly speaking, e-tailers, particularly e-tailers with pressure from Amazon, with pressure from the fact that there's just nothing hot and new that is supply constrained. E-tailers are lucky to make 1% to 4% net after they cover all of their expenses. And so opportunities to make margin are definitely great. And the thing is, I know that consumers often get really upset about this kind of thing. They call it gouging. No. Gouging is when you have something that people need

and you charge far more for it than is fair or reasonable some people need processors do they need this one no okay then buy something else gouging is when you know that you know you're you're competing dairy farm or whatever had a flood and you quadruple the price of milk or milk may be a bad example because people probably shouldn't drink as much milk as they do let's say let's find something that's actually more necessary water sure controlling the supply of water and the supply of water and charging more for it than you then you reasonably should need to.

That is gouging. Gouging, like, let's think about what the word means. It's like it's vicious. It's like it's cutting. You don't need a gaming CPU. In fact, if Scrapyard Wars taught us anything this season, it's that you can get a great gaming experience. You've been getting Xeons for tons of Scrapyard Wars. Yep.

Like there's... There's deals out there. Yeah. Absolutely. And you don't need... Nobody lives or dies by getting a 3900X. And so I guess I just don't really care that much because I'm also in the same camp that doesn't pre-order games and doesn't pay full price for games.

Yeah. Because you know what? In the grand scheme of of things i'll pay however much i'm comfortable with and it will come down to that price eventually or it won't and you just won't get it or it won't and i just won't get it and that's that's how capitalism works like anyway so good for amd oh yeah so how amd benefits from this is that instead of running out and working with game developers to bundle free games with their processors or their GPUs or whatever else, those aren't free. I don't know if you guys know this, but when you get a free game with your graphics card, that's not free.

And actually, in the old days, they used to be super cheap, like the game codes for NVIDIA and for Ai at the time my understanding is they used to come very cheaply because the argument that was being made was that these graphics card uh companies and intel used to do them as well uh in fact my copy of supreme commander i only got that game because i got a free one with my intel cpu oh yeah yeah anyway i used to try to flip the games yep oh. Oh, yeah, that was a good strategy. I used to do that all the time. But anyway, they used to be cheap

because the argument would be made that, hey, we're promoting your game. Yeah, advertising for it. And not that many people buy a new computer like specifically for a game anyway. So probably most of the people that are interested in your game are going to have to buy it.

And we're effectively giving you a great promotional vehicle for it. Well, the game companies stopped buying that line and started charging quite a lot more for them. So I remember negotiating deals with suppliers being like, well, hey, you know, like, honestly, we just need a better price. Like, you're not price to performance competitive. How am I supposed to sell this thing? And they go, well, we've got these games. And I go, I don't care about these games. And they're like, well, unfortunately, this is a deal we've negotiated. And it's like, you know, between the two games, it's like $18 or something on our cost.

I'm like, what? Oh, holy crap. Like, you guys are actually paying, like, a lot for these games. And a lot of the time, they're hot new games, and these are like $50 games for nine bucks a pop. Like, it is a good value, but only if you were going to buy those games or you have the savvy and the time to turn around and flip them.

So it's good for AMD in the sense that they don't have to run around and work on these promos in order to get their product to move. I really hope that TSMC can get their stuff together. Apparently one of the reasons for the shortage is that TSMC tripled their lead time for 7- nanometer chips from two months to six months because You know It's great if more people have awesome processors at a great price and once the lead time comes down once their capacity goes up The prices will fall but in the meantime

You will have to pay a little bit more the Nice thing I guess is that at least if you want an Intel CPU You can get a 10-core one of those for... How much was it again? Just under... Ooh, wow, I'm super not in that tab anymore. Yeah, I don't remember. How much is a new 10-core? $590.

So you could actually get an Intel 12-core for $689, which is a perfectly reasonable option. The one thing that's going to bite you a little bit there is watch out for motherboard pricing because Intel's X299 platform is substantially more expensive on the motherboard side than if you grab like a well-built B450 board or something and throw a 3900X in there.

I'm going to bring up the scrapyard wars thing again. You probably don't need that either though. Yeah, you probably don't need it. Just to be completely clear. But if you do need it for work. But if you do, that's great. At least we have the Core i9-10920X to look forward to. It's so robotic. And I know you played into that, but it's still, even if you didn't, it's still robotic.

You know what I wanted them to do? I wanted them to just... Actually, I don't know what I wanted them to do but this was terrible what they should have done was what Nvidia did they should have done a reset so I don't know if you guys have been following it for this long but Nvidia's cards

used to be 4 digit numbers and then a suffix so it was like your 6800 GT or GTtx or your yeah your 7900 gtx and 7950 that was like a weird little small incremental bump anyway uh so they got up to the 9800 gtx and everyone kind of speculated what are they going to do um you know are they going to are they going to do? You know, are they going to do this goofy five-digit number? And thankfully,

NVIDIA, while I didn't necessarily fully agree with their naming scheme, had the good sense to not do this, and they came up with the 200 series. So they actually went down to three numbers. I'm interested, because I thought it was alright. What about 100? Okay, well, yeah. What happened to

100? What happened to 300, NVIDIA? What happened to 100? Okay. What happened to 300 in video? Where did those numbers... What happened to 800? Well... Where did all those numbers go? We kind of know what happened to 800, the mobile stuff. Yeah, but like...

It was still dumb. I agree. But so I thought you meant like within the stack, not the actual starting number. Like if you're going to skip numbers, at least skip numbers I can kind of explain. Like if you had skipped 400, I could have been like, okay, I don't know.

They don't want to spook like superstitious chinese buyers or something i don't know yeah you know i was actually kind of surprised that they skipped one and eight and not four because i like i was expecting that jump you know what i mean but oh well okay i'm very interested in this okay sure hit me in in your opinion on this, because you've been using a flippy-dippy phone. Oh, yes. For a while now. Boop. Pretty cool.

Nice floppy phone. I actually absolutely love it. It's buggy. Like, Android Auto on this thing is terrible. Interesting. Yeah, I don't... Probably because it's just not getting the same level of software.

It's the whole niche product thing. It's like, yes, this is a $2,000 phone, and therefore I should be getting the best experience. But if you're smart, you run out and you buy an A series or you buy the S whatever, and you're actually going to get your software updates in a, this is Samsung we're talking about, relatively reasonable time frame. Like if you're expecting this, which is this like weird experimental device

to get the same level of polish and the same kind of long-term support as a normal phone, you are out of your flipping mind. But I really like it. I like a lot of things about the experience. And the idea of having more screen in front of me is just like, look at my business calendar. Yeah, it's really awesome.

Is that not amazing? Like, I have so much space to work, or like, That's really awesome. From a, I actually haven't played a single game on it, so I have no idea how good that experience is, but, you know, TeamViewer, okay? So, firing up, An actually. Okay. So firing up. It's like an actually decently usable amount of space.

Yeah. Like here, let me just, let me just bring this up here. Yeah. Don't worry. I'm good. It's just my desktop upstairs. Yeah. So I have a, like a mega ultra wide monitor on my desk. And normally when I log in from my phone, which is usually vertical because that's sort of how I'm using it most of the time, because otherwise like the keyboard's unusable and stuff. So normally, like I can't even see that much stuff, but like, hold on, let's find a different

browser tab. There we go. Like that is a lot of, that is a lot of browser to be able to see, you know, I have a black desktop background. So, you know know you can effectively see the whole yeah Informational part of this is like it's like really usable like I can really do stuff That's you know bring up my keyboard, and I still have like up kind of monitor you looking size thing like I I Absolutely love this thing from a productivity standpoint

I absolutely love this thing from a productivity standpoint. Like email. Oh, man. I showed Luke this, and he just about creamed himself, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So check this out. So I'm just going to go to a stupid inbox. It doesn't matter.

Okay, cool. So here we go. So here's an inbox I don't care about. Watch this. Oh, wow. It's the tablet view. It's a little hard to see, but you have have like all of your your different emails on the left and you can read the email On the right and it's like still more space on the right. Yeah, I

Pretty well, I really like this thing. Okay, so more screens in the pocket. I am officially on board that train Let's talk about their Microsoft's new dual screen devices yeah okay it's huge that's the main thing i want to get your input on because you've always been a proponent for smaller phones and now you have a small phone that turns into a giant phone but this thing's like kind of always giant i think uh this link was to the wrong thing uh the yeah no okay that's the laptop thing yep hold on i think i clicked the wrong one surface duo smartphone here we go all right so let's bring this up there's yeah there's a picture of her holding it right at the top there we go so it's big they bailed on the idea of a folding display, but they've gone ahead with a folding phone.

I love that it's Android. I have to give Microsoft so much credit for having the stones or having the, I don't even know what to call it, the humility, the something. Self-awareness? Yeah, to just go, okay, our strength is in software as a service now. You know, it's in building,

we're using Microsoft Teams now here. It has issues, to be very clear. I'm not necessarily recommending it to anyone, but like, to building software that runs on hardware, and, but then also building hardware, but then now building software that runs on hardware, but then also building hardware, but then now building software that runs on other people's hardware and software. Like they've just, they've shown a degree of fluidity

that I feel like the Steve Ballmer Microsoft did not have. They went from a huge amount of derpy devices that I think were mostly just fun to laugh at and like question like- What was that was that therapy people love the Zune Okay, yeah, no the Zune was amazing. I loved Zune software was incredible. I never actually owned a Zune I had no money at the time especially because it was up against iTunes which at the time was it maybe it's better now But like even if iTunes didn't exist yeah Zune software was fantastic. I loved it I use it as a player on my desktop all the time.

I mean kind of a little bit after that. Right. They had a lot of derpy stuff coming out. The Windows phone was just awkward and all that jazz. But in the last little while, they've been kind of fun. Surface headphones. Oh, wow. They're surprisingly really good.

They're okay. They're good. They're fine. They're not like the best. I wouldn't buy them. Yeah. No. I wouldn't buy them because they aren't the best for the money.

Oh, wow. Amazing. What a surprise. But if you're into the aesthetics or the comfort or whatever, it could be a solid option. And the controls are cool. Yeah. And then like their laptops have been getting better. And then this is like interesting.

But you're the only person that I know personally personally, that's been using Flippy Phone. Yep, Galaxy Phone. And this is pretty, I just mean the concept. Ah, yes. And then this is pretty different, I think. Because using just one of these screens, I know it flips all the way around, but that's still going to be kind of hard. So here's my sort of, you know, bummer take on the Surface Duo. I think it definitely has a market.

Yeah, it definitely has a market. But one of the things I like about the Galaxy Fold, feel this, hold it. That just feels like a phone. It feels like a heavy chocolate bar. Yep, and when you're using it as a phone It's great. And what's cool about the way that they've designed it is that everything functions exactly as you'd expect There's a selfie camera here that you can use to take selfies and the rear camera is here Just like on a normal phone you want to like turn on your flashlight. Oh, yeah, okay good

It's in the right spot regardless of whether I'm using it flipped open or whether I've got it closed. Okay, you know, all your volume and all of your buttons. It's a little awkward. I have noticed that you use the small screen a lot as well. Yeah. I've seen it with you, with it open too. I'm not saying you don't use either,

but like you use the small screen quite a bit. If I wanna do something quickly, everything is here. Even if it is a little on the small side. If I need to make a phone call, I will make a phone call like this. That doesn't look as usable to me when I don't need the full experience. And what this device has done that nothing has really done for me in quite a while is it has changed the way that I use my phone. I don't just, like, because this small screen is functional but not particularly enjoyable to use, I find myself not just idly whipping out my phone and, like, looking at it for no reason anymore. Because it is a little bit more effort to unfold it.

I actually do consider that for me personally, I consider that to be a good thing. I don't want that compulsive behavior to be any more compulsive than it is. Like it's, so for me, it's like, there's, there's two things that I do with my phone, something that's like quick and I don't need to unfold it but with purpose because I'm not doing it for fun or something where I

really want to get more done. Well now I can do that. So it's like is it worth it to invest the extra time to unfold it and like really do something. Like am I focused on a task right now? This is amazing. And if I'm just like not really doing anything,

making that less fun, I consider being to be a very positive thing. And much more intentional. Yes. So there's- It's not just whatever, you have to flip it open, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, there has to be an intent

to when I use my phone with this thing. It's an interesting side effect benefit thing. And some people might not like that. Maybe you like just the like, you know, the convenience of just being able to like pull your phone and do stuff. And like that's great too. But, and to be clear, you can do that. It just does take a little bit longer. Something that I've been really liking on this is eBooks. Like that is, I basically have a Kindle in my pocket because the OLED display, it's not super fatiguing.

You throw the blue light filter on. You turn the brightness down. That's something that I was really disappointed in with the ROG Phone 2 was that while it's got HDR and 10-bit and blah, blah, blah, one of the things that I really need out of a mobile display is a super dim screen. Like the capability to go super, super dim because I often use my phone at night. And this one goes so dim that I can comfortably use it to read eBooks. Yeah, wow.

Like that does not, that doesn't bother me at all, even at night. Yeah. Like I would have to turn this up to read it during the day. And so it's like- It's a little too bright here, but I could definitely see how that would be.

I mean, we're under studio light, so it's not really fair too bright here but i could definitely see how that would be i mean we're under we're under studio light yeah it's not really fair yeah but like i could use that like that for a very long time without any noticeable fatigue yeah um the fold is super noticeable but also it kind of goes away when it matters most so if i'm like watching a full screen video i don't really notice it um whereas if I'm like looking for it or there's bright sun behind me, yeah, it's there. I don't know, I'm really happy with it. But so right, so back to the, my review of that is coming by the way. So back to the Surface Duo,

I see the inconvenience of using it one handed as being even greater than this one. I think that's kind of a bummer. Yes, definitely. Also, one of the biggest reasons that I'm so jazzed on the Galaxy Fold is having that gigantic canvas for doing tasks that are typically difficult on such a small screen.

And having a bezel down the middle, I think, is going to be a bit of a drag. I'd get over it. And depending on pricing, it might make a ton of sense. I'm sure that's going to be more cost effective and more reliable than the Galaxy Fold, which has been plagued with issues. Yeah, there's specific things that doing it on that device would be wonderful. Yep, especially if you're multitasking. Well, yeah, like being able to have the floatplane website or app up

and messing around in that while talking to people would be glorious. So I was having issues getting connected to my carrier and I needed to copy my APN information over. It was like so amazing having a giant screen, just split screen, copy, paste, copy, paste. Woo! So awesome. I'd be like switching windows on the previous one or even just typing it in on the one side while you just look at, refer to it on the other side.

And this would be great for that. It feels kind of related to when the world sort of started shifting to having a whole bunch of tabs open instead of Constantly making new windows and closing windows and all this kind of stuff for when they're web browsing Because having all these tabs open and like splitting them out and having multiple browsers up you can copy things back and forth more easily I don't share Microsoft's vision for some of these things. I don't see that being a great gaming experience personally. No, yeah, that was a weird photo when I saw it too. But I love it. I love it from a productivity standpoint.

And I am super excited just in general to see Microsoft and Google working together where it makes sense. Because one of the biggest arguments for the Apple side of things is ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem. And realistically, I don't think Chrome OS is coming after Windows anytime soon. And realistically, Microsoft's mobile operating system ambitions are dead and buried. So if you want to not be in the Apple ecosystem,

you need integration between Google and Microsoft, and you need that experience to be more seamless. And they are, it seems to be, this is not the only way, I'm trying to remember what the other thing that happened recently was. Oh, right, just using Android on Windows, like getting your notifications on your Windows machine. Like, it seems to be that they're moving in the right direction to finally take the fight to Apple in that regard. And I'm really, really excited about it because it was kind of cool being in the Apple ecosystem for a bit. I switched to AirPods, I switched to the new iPhone,

and I switched to the Apple Watch. Are you out now? You're done? I'm out now because they still haven't fixed basic stuff that is very meaningful to me. Okay, let's see if I still have any notifications left on this thing. It's locked. One sec.

There we go. OK, I don't have any notifications left on it, unfortunately. But you still can't read an entire email on it. It's like, OK how how useful is that then yeah um and there's just certain things where it's like if i'm the kind of freak that wears a smart watch i don't care about your activity monitoring falling down monitoring like i don't care about that stuff i just just want my notifications fast. I love that it hasn't always on display now.

That makes a big difference to me. But just, it's not that polished. Notifications. We were talking about this before the show. Notifications, like, kind of suck right now on both sides. And not just notifications, but, like, meaningful interaction with them. Yes. Like, I almost want to make a video.

Maybe I should make a video about Mark as Red. That is the most important thing that I need to be able to do with a notification and almost no apps support it. For some reason, Google's SMS app is one that does support it because verification codes, as far as I can tell. Like, I think that's why they implemented it.

But I don't know why absolutely Teams supports it, which is nice. But I don't know why absolutely everything doesn't have support for it. I don't want to open the app in order to not have it be bolded or not have a dot next to it or whatever the case may be. This is irrelevant. It's someone messaging me back saying thanks or something like that. I never wanna see that again. And so people often give me a hard time

about my notification tray being full of stuff. And it's like, yeah, because it's the only place that I can leave them. If I swipe it away, I'm not 100% sure what the app's behavior will be. I can't mark them as red. It's difficult to manage. And one of my biggest frustrations is reminders.

So Apple's new Reminders app is way better than the Android situation. Luke and I both have frustration with reminders on Android. A couple things. So one is you can't, I mean, you could throw custom ringtones on your device, but there's no reason you should have to do this. You can't set a continuous ringing ringtone for your reminder ringtone, which is baffling to me. So you only get like,

like you only get these little short. It should ring until I answer it. This reminder is probably very important. I set a reminder so that I remember to do something, not so that I get a little, a polite little, you know, like. Like I have to, when I so that I get a little, a polite little, you know, like I have to, when I set, when I set the time for a reminder, I have to try to be conscious of like, will I be on my phone at that time? Cause if not, I probably won't see it.

And if you get a lot of notifications that honestly, I don't even like hear them. I don't even feel them a lot of the time. Cause it's just, I'm kind of numb to them. Um, and the other issue is that you get this reminder and let's say maybe you had a reminder that was open already or something. It just gets bundled. It just gets bundled together. It's buried at the bottom of your list,

even though it's the newest thing that just came in. So your phone like buzzes and you're like, sorry, what was that? And you're in the middle of something and then you don't do it. It's like. Something that drives me nuts This is a little bit unrelated but Twitter you get Twitter notifications you click on one and it gets rid of like all of them

Instead of just the one and it'll like load Twitter And you need it to go to a specific tweet or someone's account or whatever and it just brings you to like the Twitter homepage Then it's like oh, that's gone. Good luck finding it. Oh yeah, I love that one. Like someone mentioned you in a whatever. Yeah, you're like, oh, what's this? I'll never know.

Okay. Because now I go to my notification feed and everything's truncated into each other. If someone followed me, it's bundled with a whole bunch of other people.

Who knows where the message is? Who knows like what thread it's buried under? I have no clue. It's so frustrating. So speaking of frustrating, oh, never mind it's buried under. I have no clue. It's so frustrating. So speaking of frustrating, oh, never mind. No, we do have our super chats.

Was there anything else that you wanted to talk about? I brought up the Google thing, owing people tons of money. Google sued in the UK for 3.2 billion pounds. Whoops. So much. 4 million iPhone users in the uk might get 750 pounds or nine roughly equivalent 925 us dollars each which is tons from google's illegal data harvesting which went on from 2011 to february 2019 that is awesome for like a class action settlement yeah like imagine for a second if all of the users harmed

really got substantial payments from class actions, how much more deterred against class actions companies would be. Yeah. Like if you had to pay an actually reasonable settlement to everyone whose data you leaked.

Because usually it's like $5. Yep, it's nothing. So it doesn't, it's whatever. Or like who you defrauded by falsely advertising something or whatever the case may be. Yeah, so they were bypassing privacy settings on Apple iPhone handsets between those dates, so for like eight years. They used data to divide people into categories for advertisements, including ethnic origin, physical and mental health, opinion, sexuality, sexual interests, and social class. Gosh darn, Google.

Real cool, but hopefully everybody gets a payout. That's really funny. I half expect someone to clip this and then me talking about how glad I am that Microsoft and Google are working together and let's put them together. Okay, I almost made a joke when you said that. And I was like, yeah, telemetry from two sides.

I mean, hey, if my personal data is going to be out there, we might as well level the playing field and give it to everyone. Might as well make it super out there. I'm not going to pull a Justin Trudeau and get blindsided with old pictures. I'm just going to publish everything. I'm going to make my own site. You know, like Linus's deepestdarkestsecrets.com. I am now worthless.com. Put everything on there.

I am now worthless.com. What's that? Do you get it? No. Cause like your data has a value or whatever. Oh. So like in a data sense you are now worth, I'm sure it's. I actually don't know why that would whatever. Oh. So like in a data sense you are now worth. I'm sure it's. I actually don't

know why that would exist. Uh. I am now worthless is what I meant. I am now worthless. Cause you put all your data out there. So you are of no value data wise. We haven't done this in a while. Yeah. I am now worthless dot com is three

dollars. Not long. But it's like, it's a terrible but interesting concept. Also available is I am worthless now.com. If you don't catch either of those, you can pick up now I am worthless.com for also $3. Hey Google, you want my information? Here you go.

Have it. Take it. That should just be like... Amiworthless.com is also available. So you can check? If all your data's out there already? The world's saddest website. Nowiamworthless.com should just be an image feed

of people from wall street bats now now i am worthless all right so last thing is we want to go through some super chats uh sembo says a portion of this video was sponsored by me good job sembo uh email says hey enjoying the show guys keep it up wondering if it's worth upgrading from a 980 ti to a 1080 for 120 hertz no uh is the way linus pronounces paste a canada thing or a linus thing paste paste paste paste sorry executive i have no idea what you're talking about me neither uh debunked a little closer for you would that be nice though there we go that's a lot easier actually would you like me to... Hey!

Are you ever going to buy glasses? I own them. I don't know where they are. So, okay. I can't give too much information, because I don't want to give any personally identifiable information. Yeah, like, really no. Don't worry, don't worry. I got this.

But not only do I know for a fact that Luke makes enough money to afford glasses, I also know that he has a close acquaintance who literally works in the glasses industry. Yeah. They're somewhere. I hate wearing them. Also, fact number three, Luke's vision is terrible. Yeah. It's serviceable. I hate also fact number three Luke's vision is terrible. Yeah It's serviceable I can legally drive

Can see a car Debugs someone needs to invent a little storage container that slots into the seldom-used CD drive bay in a case I'd love a place that exists to store like screwdrivers screws at times I'm pretty sure someone made that at one point I don't think they're super popular anymore because a lot of computers just don't even have those yes anymore Eliezer says when are the new water bottle colors coming? Oh, hey Nick you wandered off, eh? Yeah Can I can I say that? Should I show them? Alright, we don't have them here. Okay, soon.

Very soon, TM. Techmoji. You guys inspired me to pursue computers and now BS in computer engineering. Freaking awesome. One year left. Keep at it. Yeah. Trainspot, thanks.

John Espo wanted to say good night. Good night to you, dude. Good night. Justin says, big fan. Just got three shirts and love them. Do you know when you'll restock XL CPU shirts? Hey, Nick. What?

Are we restocking XL CPU shirts anytime soon? Yes. Hopefully next week. Hopefully next week. There you go. TM. Ryan says, Jokes on Intel.

I just picked up a 3700X. Indeed. I don't know what this means. What is GLO gang? And will gang be offended? I have no idea what this means. I have a feeling we just played into a meme. Sorry, Eduardo.

I have no idea. Lego Lad Playwell, just wondering, why are you selling two server motherboards on your merch store? Because we don't know what else to do with them. Adam says, whoa, I finally have a chance to be on Super Chat. You can be on Super Chat

anytime you want. It just costs money. That's all. Maybe it's his payday. Tommy Gunn says, I'd love to see a Many Gamers One CPU, not one MOBO.

He's from epic. He's from Norway. He might watch VODs. You're right. So no spoilers. No spoilers. Total spoilers. I finally got confirmation from AMD's server team that they want to work with us.

And so we might be able to get our hands on a CPU that would be powerful enough to run an entire house worth of computers. powerful enough to run an entire house worth of computers. Apparently, GLO gang or GLO gang is something to do with rappers, and specifically Chief Keef. Chief Keef, a rapper. Okay, cool. Vincente says, hey, Linus, little trivia. Did you know that ano is pronounced like anus in spanish and oh yeah but it's not spanish

people brought that up before yeah uh executive says need more tyler in the videos free idea tyler leads linus playing a community-made character and other lmg staff in a session of dnd channel super fun yeah i don't know if that sounds super fun. Dave says, regarding the leg in Super Mario World on the Alienware OLED, there are tools to eliminate retro leg. Interesting. Retro RGB is a great resource on this. Yeah, I should probably...

Oh! Oh, this is Dave from Retro RGB. Lent you a Virtual Boy recently. Yeah, I think we've returned that. I hope so. If not, we'll get it back to you soon. I think they shipped it out like...

I humbly request collaborative videos. That would actually be a lot of fun. We don't do a ton of retro gaming content, but I will let you know if anything comes up. And yes, I do need to figure out my retro lag situation. I also did just like buy a CRT because I give up. What did you get? Which one? Nothing special. I will say

though, there's one on Craigslist that had my eye if I just felt like spending way too much money. Someone's going to snag this, I'm sure, now that I'm drawing attention to it. But in my searching during Scrapyard Wars, I came across

a GDM FW900, which is a widescreen CRT with BNC inputs. This is basically the king. $1,500. Oh, my God. I saw that. Yeah. Virtual voice coming out on YouTube tomorrow.

Cool. What else we got here? Thanks, Chikashi. Afterstorm. Linus, have you ever used and locate on Linux to search files? It takes seconds to index billions of files on an SSD, and the search is instantaneous. Yeah, probably.

Call me when Adobe Premiere is available. I mean, it's always the same conversation. It's like, yeah, 100% agree cool and I wish you in those situations and our 10 reasons why Linux is better video is coming obviously obviously but what people don't understand sorry that pissed me off so much I'm so tilted about this whole situation I when that came out people brought up ten reasons Windows is better yeah they. Everyone's like, oh, it's just because... They're doing the iPhone Android thing.

We did Mac first. Yeah, and we did Mac first. Yeah. It's a series. Come on. It's not supposed to be fair and balanced. Oh, my goodness. It's supposed to be, here are good things. It's just positivity. And, I mean, in the Windows one, we even did acknowledge some bad stuff. Yeah. Jeez, geez sorry that just wah

I got so many messages about that people just have no clue sometimes. I don't know how to fix it You care this much like error clue not found what you like haven't paid attention to how they do everything ever Come on, uh punit says I was the one on your stream the other night spamming the elemental stuff. Sorry I Did I didn't, I was the one on your stream the other night spamming the elemental stuff. Sorry. I didn't notice. I was busy playing video games. Ashton, greetings from Manjaro Linux. Here, have five bucks. B Gems, yay, the LAN show.

See you guys in the archive tomorrow. You're watching it now. Maybe you caught the end. Digital Realm, started watching guys in 2011 as a 14-year-old. That's terrifying. You are now, holy crap, you are now 22. You are now an adult. I am now a VoIP infrastructure network engineer

thanks to you cultivating my interest in IT. P.S. The office networking videos equal cringe. We know. Thanks, Jeremy. Paul says, Risk 5 and RDNA is the future unless Intel comes up with something major, they will suffer an IBM future. IBM's doing all right.

Risk architecture has been on the way for a long time. Yeah. Irving says, watching this, I feel like when I see my mom while she watches her famous people gossip shows and somehow I don't hate it. Resden Taco says, I kind of miss the TunnelBear ads. Yeah, they're not coming back anytime soon. Something Ninja, more Google Opinion Awards money.

Yeah, I found out about this recently. Yeah. Opinion Awards. Timothy says, I built my first server with just knowledge from your videos. I'm sure you hear that. Good job, though. Oculus42, thank you. Frady03, Elemental T-shirt, go hardcore, all over. What are you even talking about? I have no idea. Doesn't matter. But thank you. Freydiel3, elemental t-shirt go hardcore all over.

What are you even talking about? I have no idea. Doesn't matter. Thanks for the two bucks. Jaypajappers says, there's software called Search Everything that catalogs everything and has instant search and one button search anywhere in Windows with walks. Good to know.

I shouldn't have to do that. Yeah. But good. Is that going to add more than just pressing the start button and typing anthony says motherboard shirt when i don't know we have a motherboard water bottle should probably do a shirt eventually but it's kind of hard to design a cool looking motherboard yeah that sounds difficult paul says go fold yes indeed go fold you do it like the old like you know that play mat that's a city that everyone had when they were a kid?

You could do it sort of like that where it, like, looks like a city, but you laid out, like, a motherboard. Yeah, it might be too much. It might be too much. I'm not a good designer. Chasm says, you mentioned selling mouse pads in a previous WAN show. Are they coming out soon or no? I need a new one, but I don't want to wait too long. What's our ETA on those?

It's up in the air right now. Yeah, it's up in the air. Don't wait. Yeah. All right. If you need it, just get a different one. Yeah, get a different mouse pad. Ours will be affordable anyway. Get a cheap one and then get ours like after. Yeah, I think we're going to be around like between 20 and 30 probably. Albal says, massive thanks to LTT for teaching me the PC basics. Built my own months ago, Ryzen 2700X, GTX 1070, nice little rig. Really happy with it. Awesome. Dallin Law says, what about for costume? Infrared lights and reflector strips that show up

on camera but are otherwise invisible. What about them indeed? I think they have stuff like that, but I don't understand what the question is. SimTV. Thanks. Wilf, heard on stream you have a printer on your desk. Why not use Octoprint to have it elsewhere for a silent setup? I don't have anywhere the question is. SIMTV, thanks. Wilf, heard on stream you have a printer on your desk. Why not use Octoprint to have it elsewhere for a silent setup?

I don't have anywhere else to put it right now, but yes, duly noted, thank you. I really wanna put it in my garage, but I'm deeply concerned about the temperature fluctuations. So the reason I have it on my desk, I've had a lot of people give me crap about having it in a room that I occupy. The reason I have it on my desk is from when had a lot of people give me crap about having it in a room that I occupy. The reason I have it on my desk is from when I put all of my machines

over in the side closet, I put a ventilation fan into that room. So what I do when I'm printing is I crack the window in the room and I open up that door so I have airflow coming right across the printer and out the door, basically. The thick, rough, filtered intake fan thing

that is here would also be a good idea i haven't seen your setup i don't know but those things are pretty legit i don't print that often and i tend to not go in that room while i'm printing and i just don't really have anywhere else temperature controlled that's out of the way to put it right i'm not going to complain because i have an amazing house but i kind of wish i had a bigger house i three kids. They take up a lot of space. Sure, man. I don't even want to hear your whining. Look, your limited living space is voluntary. Yeah?

Yeah. I'm not. I wasn't comparing to myself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, whatever. I'm completely okay with that. I'm not comparing to myself.

I'm just saying. Because you are a C word. You could, like like build an addition a cheap Cheap yeah Yeah, I'm pretty cheap too, but not about certain things not about certain things when it comes to camera equipment I'm pretty sure that I don't see your business when it comes to the business not cheap And Zack is it says is AMD coming back from where?

They're back. Yeah, they're back, baby. Yeah. Thanks Matthew. I was gonna say like yeah, but they're there. Yeah They're coming here Jay says I just checked the 3900 X is still 473 pounds in the UK. We're looking at us Yeah us numbers Okay, what else we got? Robert Mail says, people shouldn't drink that much milk. r slash never broke a bone would like to have a word with you. Okay, yeah, milk is not, that's, okay, calcium. It's probably a joke subreddit.

Oh, is it? It's probably. That sounds like a joke. I am curious. For those who are safe. Wait. Is it like bone apple? Yeah, it's a joke.

This is awesome. Okay, hold on a second. You know what? We're going to experience this subreddit together. Okay, there's a pretty good one. Don't get demonetized. For those who are safe on Reddit. hold on a second, ladies and gentlemen. We have not finished the man show just yet.

Okay, so this isn't the most appropriate, but it's really funny. This skeletal thinks you are cool and have good bones. There's, okay. Wow. The next one after the ad. Oh, man. Good lord. Oh, man.

You've been visited by the dairy dictator. He will grant you enough calcium for spooktober No need to updo What am I even looking at? I like the next one Bones win halves milk Oh my god Okay That's fantastic thank you for that um i think we're just about done here ladies and gentlemen let's see if we've got a couple other ones innocuous remarks says am i stupid for considering a pre-built no of course not some people like you've got stuff to do

don't feel like building a computer. It's all good. Are we going to review OnePlus TV from RanRB? We're planning to, yes. Zion says, Linus needs a tape delay to not maybe leak stuff. Yeah, probably. Detail says, in theory, in the future, if I were to apply for a job at LTT, do I absolutely need a Canadian work permit?

You betcha. And Bob Barry says, are you you gonna have a sale on underwear soon I'm a poor college student and need a new pair well what would be a really good idea would be not blowing five dollars on a super chat to ask me about putting underwear on sale but I'll tell you what Bob if you can send to our email which is publicly facing if you're not smart enough to find it then I don't feel bad for you. We'll give you exactly $4.99. If you can send evidence that you are, in fact, that Bob Barry, I will

personally give you a special deal on three packs of underwear so you will have a full week's supply, alright? And guys, don't send me super chats like this all the time. I will ignore them. This is just because this has never happened before. We're just doing something special for our buddy Bob Barry over here, okay? But, look, poor college student who wastes too much money on super

chats clearly you have a lot to learn it's good you're in college we just want to help you out okay you're in a finance management you're in a bad situation yeah you need to go take some finance courses um we're gonna we're gonna get you a hookup all right all right bob barry yeah all right all right Peace out guys. Thanks for watching. Sorry. Oh, media Mondays will be back soon. Oh yeah.

Our restock's coming, right? Yeah. All right. Thanks for watching guys. Peace out. Bye. Same bad time, same bad channel. I came across kids are effing stupid it's pretty great too I haven't seen that but I love the name I came across Kids Are F***ing Stupid a little while ago.

It's pretty great, too. I haven't seen that, but I love the name. It's a good one.