The WAN Show - Intel's GPU Is HERE... ish? - WAN Show Jan 10, 2020

Episode Date: January 11, 2020

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There we go. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to The WAN Show. We've got a fantastic show for you guys today. Of course. today and for once it's not my fault that we were late. Yeah. I was like hey we should start the show. We're both here. Thumbnails done. Titles done. And then Luke was like. Not exactly how it went down. That's basically how it went down. He's like look at all these people that are signing up for Floatplane. I want to tell you all about them. And I talked to them and they think it's really cool and they want to join.

And there's actually one that's already done a video about going live on Floatplane. And for privacy reasons, I can't say how many people subscribed already. Yeah. But I can say the word already. Yeah. I can say already. Yep. Instead of something like so far.

Yep. Right? Yep. I'm giving no information. Yeah So this is definitely not you know LTT related or anything no, but you know what we're just gonna promote am I gonna get demonetized Just for promoting a channel that gets demonetized all the time? Okay, I'm going to pause it. I'm going to pause it. I'm going to pause it. Not playing any videos.

So Forgotten Weapons has been around for a long time and has struggled in some of the main ways that weapons channels do. And look at this. Look at this. Look at this video. Flowplane. Huh. How about that? It's neat.

Actually, he did a great job. He did. Like, A plus job of explaining what exactly the heck Floatplane is. Clearly gets it, clearly understands the platform. Why anyone should care. And what's really cool is that his audience didn't flip out over it, and in fact,

seemed to mostly just think it was awesome that he was getting involved with us. So that's pretty encouraging. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's freaking awesome. So yeah, massive, massive shout out. And hopefully we'll be able to tell you guys about some of the other people that are planning to go live.

But we can't really say anything until they've said something. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, we've got a great show for you guys today. We're going to be talking about Intel's reveal of their DG1 graphics card. They actually did show hardware. Yep. Right? Yep.

So that's positive. Oops, oops. There we go. We've also, oh, we're going to discuss Sony building their own car. So that's pretty cool. What else we got on the docket for today? own car. So that's pretty cool. What else we got on the docket for today? Yeah, well, based on how

creative their branding is. The drive station. Okay, can we talk about their creative branding? Can that be a topic? Because the internet flamed them over PS5, and I'm so upset about that. 100%. 100% we can talk about it. That's ridiculous. 100% we can talk about it. And I'm so upset about that. 100%. 100% we can talk about it. That's ridiculous.

100% we can talk about it. We've also got Dell showing off their Windows-based Switch competitor, the Alienware Concept UFO. So that's pretty exciting. I actually really think it's pretty cool. And, you might like this, Cherry updates their MX Switches to now be rated for 100 million actuations that is cool um totally irrelevant the amount that most people type yeah they would never even

get close to 50 million let alone 100 even for like rather extreme typists i believe it was rather over engineered in the state it was already at my My keyboard that's having issues. Hold on. That is an amazing name for like a nerdy parody band. Okay? Extreme typists. I would go see them just based on the name alone. They're all keyboardists. Like they play guitar sounds by pressing like keyboard buttons. I love it. The extreme typists. Yeah, anyway, sorry carry on

totally distracted that was awesome my keyboard has seen an obscene amount of use and It didn't like none of its switches are the reason why it's having problems. No Especially not the switches. I mean, okay, we can talk about it a little bit more later first We got a roll the intro and I'm gonna do yeah I mean, okay, we can talk about it a little bit more later. First. We got to roll the intro and I'm gonna do yeah Says is there a quiet ITX bill? Well, there is if you make one? You're welcome, Carlo. World Class Channel says, what about the Sony car that will definitely be launched

with no problems? What about it indeed? Wonderful question. Absolutely love it. You know what? Let's make this show all Q&A. Linus, how to build a budget PC that runs 144 frames on Fortnite?

Did someone ask that in YouTube chat? That's the easiest thing ever, because as long as you don't have to run 144 frames per second, any computer will eventually run 144 frames. What else we got here, boys and girls? He also didn't define a resolution, so you could just downsample that to all heck, and it'll be great. No problem. Could anybody recommend Secret Labs

chair? I have no idea what you're talking about and no, neither does anybody else because it's a secret. Oh. What else we got here? Luke's shirt is not playing well on my TV. That's going to give me a seizure.

Oh. Wait wait what? Yeah, the the camera doesn't like the dots all being close to each other. Is mine any better? No, not really. I guess it's just lower. I think the white Well, like being up here Ummmmmmm It looks better in person! If you want a shirt that Looks like this on camera, you can get one! USB-C t-shirt, $19.99 on the LTT store.

Do you love USB-C as much as I do? Then show your love with the Type-C t-shirt. That's- that's 2020 romance right there. I know, right? Heck yeah. What else we got? I love this. Let's do some more Q&A. Yeah! I know right heck. Yeah, what else we got I love this. Let's do some more Q&A. Yeah Highlight it says Jade can my 60 Hertz monitor play games at 120 FPS Or will it just be stuck at 60 FPS?

The only way to find out for sure is to take that monitor Put it right there in front of your keyboard and see how well plays those games What else we got here um him can you overclock hold on oh this is great franco says can you overclock a ryzen 7 2600 with a b450 mobo i can't i don't have one have one. Vico says Luke sabotaging the land show. He might be but that's not what this show is called. I don't run the land show so I don't consider that to be a significant problem. Hey perfect. Linus how do I get XLR power supply cables? Dear God, you don't. Please do not plug an XLR cable and the other end of XLR into a power supply and then anything else. Yeah, I was going to say, if you touch that to the wall, it might be a bit of an issue.

I'm pretty sure the only one PSU was ever made with them, and I can't find any. XLR power supply cables? now. I'm curious now. We've gone off the rails We both just immediately start going wow yeah, yeah, okay Alright, oh yeah, no, I've actually I've seen these what are we talking about? I didn't know it was technically still XLR, but I've seen these you've probably seen these two They're on a lot more like old retro II kind of stuff. Oh no no no no no no no no no okay? Okay, all right all right hold on a second everybody All right, so these are quite frequent these connectors are quite frequently used for things like scooters like skateboards that kind of stuff

used for things like scooters, electric skateboards, that kind of stuff. What I would probably search for, okay, you're getting a free tech tip right now. I'm charging you absolutely nothing for this tech tip. Free tech tip! You're welcome, ladies and gentlemen. No cost tech tip. Is I would look for electric skateboard charge cable.

And we've got a bunch what what really Hmm okay Hold on let's try something else. Let's try something else okay. Okay? The XLR cable itself is not actually that complicated So how much the cable do you need? Well part of the issue is that a lot of the time They're not like male to female or male to male. They're like hard soldered at one end. Yeah, but like the other end of an XLR cable is often relatively random. Like you can see through a lot of these stuff. The ends are not necessarily the same.

All right, that worked a lot better. Electric scooter charging cable. Woo. His laptop just blue screened. Anyways. And that's what happens. That's what happens with XLR power cables. There you go.

That's why I wasn't recommending them in the first place. That's beautiful. Yeah, okay, so like what I was going to say, actually, Amazon.ca has the ends for XLR power cables, so you could, like, make your own cable if you needed to. Yeah, that's honestly probably what I would end up doing. You just strip the existing cable, and then you put it together. You make sure that the thing is wired up right.

You check the wiring diagram from the manual of your device. And then you use a multimeter. Make sure you actually did it right. Do a sanity check. And then you wrap the whole thing in an electrician's tape or you do it properly shrink wrap yeah that's an option too uh pause in there for a second i feel like the the electrician's tape thing came from some personal experience yeah okay um more questions uh yeah everyone just saying f because the laptop More questions? Yeah.

Everyone just saying F because of the laptop? Yeah, basically. So, all right. Why don't we jump into our first topic today, then? You lead the conversation because I don't have my notes. Yeah, so I guess... Intel announced... No, I'm just messing with... People get so mad.

They're like, Linus always interrupts Luke. So I'm going to shut up. I'm going to be good today. I was reading the comments on a recent wan show and they were like linus never stops talking he never lets luke talk and so i resolved this is my new year's resolution to not cut luke off anymore and not keep talking over you when you're just trying to get a word in edgewise that i feel is really important to our audience really important important for respecting my co-hosts, my colleagues, my friends, people that I've worked with

and had relationships with for a long time. And, you know, do you feel that that's important? No. Because I really feel like... I think if I can get my opinion in here, I think what is ultimately king is content. And if you are going on a good rant, I think what is ultimately king is content. And if you are going on a good rant, I think it is my job to try to either keep you going or understand when it is genuinely too far and then try to derail you.

I don't think it's necessarily for me to add in if you're doing well on your own. I don't have to get my two cents in. Especially now that I don't make videos. I don't have to get my two cents in. Especially now that I don't make videos. Like I don't have to worry about my like presenter brand. I have stalled long enough that my system is booted again. Back off! We can keep looking at XLR power cables! All right, go ahead. Okay, Intel's DG1 GPU shown in the flesh. In recent weeks there have been a few different leaks about Intel's discrete GPU dubbed the DG1.

Most of them not that positive. Yeah. Okay, I was wondering if you were having the same stance as me. Uh, running there... is it Z? XE? I'm calling it XE so far. XE, but it's a lowercase e which dissuades me from... Yeah, is that an element? Oh.

Xenon. Oh wow, now that's gonna get confusing you're gonna have your Xeons and your Xenons The number of times I've heard people call a Xeon processor a Xenon already. Yeah, I actually didn't even think of that yet Wow, so now it's a disaster One more way, please care. Please do tell I'm gonna bring this back up when we talk about the Sony naming thing that everyone's so bummed about. Anyways, their Z, I'm not going to call it Xenon because that's going to get more confusing, discrete graphics architecture. Rather than being hush-hush about it, they just announced it, showed it to everybody. They put it in the laptop.

I believe they showed it in the PCIe configuration. But in that configuration, it's just kind of like a dock for the laptop version, which is like... We've seen that before. Also at the same time, hella disappointing, though. I was planning that, like, switcheroo computer where I was going to do AMD CPU Intel graphics card, because I thought it would be going to be fun.

Now I'm like, ehhh. Maybe not. They haven't really given us any specs to speak of. No, but Steve from Gamers Nexus is hilarious, by the way. So great. He manually counted the frames in a video and determined that Destiny 2

was running at roughly 46 FPS on low 1080p. So performance similar to a GTX 960m or an rx 560 uh laptop edition not not super exciting yeah i mean 960m like it is entirely pci bus powered yeah i mean i guess you care yeah i mean so could i bet nvidia could build something 960 m tier that is pcie bus powered at this point like yeah without much difficulty whatsoever yep um yeah this is pretty uh notably not exciting maybe maybe there's more than one graphics card coming?

Maybe this is the one the leaks were about, so they were just like, hey! I've seen, and the funny thing about, or not funny thing, the lame thing about this is like, you don't know what you can and can't believe, right, because I've seen posts on like Reddit and Twitter, people being like, yeah, I'm like, I'm at Intel, and I can't wait for when

you know the world's gonna see this and like i'm sitting here going really yeah there so a very valid comment is that this is super early on it has been optimized but yeah but that's a lot of performance to optimize. Yeah, you can't optimize a motorcycle into an 18-wheeler, you know? Like it doesn't... When you talk about optimization, you're talking when you achieve a double-digit performance improvement.

You did a great job. In this scenario, it's probably more intense than that. Because, like, no game ever has been made for this type of GPU. Yeah, but Intel knows enough about building a GPU driver at this point that... Okay, here's my counter-argument to that. We've heard this time and time again. Three months, six months months nine months before release. I mean Tom's hardware has this spectacular Running record of almost every new Intel CPU actually I don't know if they've done it lately, but going back a while ago

So, you know like three four to ten years ago They had reviews like nearly full reviews up of Intel CPUs months prior to launch. And they would always, it was always early silicon. And it was always early BIOSes, obviously, because you probably still remember. Even when you're a couple days from launch, you can still be getting BIOSes that'll change the performance by single, sometimes even double digits in certain edge cases. And they would always have these. I love how, just a quick aside,

I love how people pretend like it's been decades since I worked on computers. You probably still remember. Well, no, I mean the. As if it was so long ago. I mean the drama, the drama, not the like. As if I forgot. It's been like the majority of my professional life like Nick

I had to do something I had to work on a computer the other day and Nick was like do you still remember how and I was like what I know you Okay I was saying it as much for the benefit of the audience as for you. I know okay when yeah I don't actually think I think Nick was genuinely a little bit concerned, though. And it's just like, come on. Well, at any rate. Right.

So they would always have these disclaimers in these reviews that go, well, remember, these performance numbers were run on pre-production hardware with pre-production bios, so don't take it seriously. And the comments would be full of, I don't even know why they bothered to publish this. You know, it's going to be, it's going to be way better. It's going to be way better. It was never once dramatically better.

Not one time was it ever notably like way better. Because it's their first time entering the market with a discrete gpu entering the market i know they've worked on it before but entering the market i will give them a little bit they launched the i740 it's like 20 years ago okay yeah first time in roughly 20 remember to who this is though uh yeah this is. And they've got some big names behind it. When they say something is not done, it could be to the standard that someone else would already be shipping.

It's Intel. The fact that they have it sitting there running at all means that it's like Okay, so given that, when do you think it's going to come out? Oh, I'd be surprised if we don't see hardware at Computex. I'd be very surprised if we don't see hardware at Computex.

And if that's the timeline, I think this is pretty much it. I think this is pretty much it. I think we're gonna see, we're gonna see like, here, we're fine. Unless there's more GPUs. Cause they just showed this one, there could be a higher end GPU. That's possible.

There could be one that is four of these glued together, for all we know. But just for fun, we're going to go, we're going to find a Titan graphics card, alright? Sure. Titan graphics card. Here's some release highlights.

Oh, wow. Okay. Any additional information? No. I want to pick a more mainline. Yeah. I mean, it's usually the same release notes. The point that I'm trying to make here, guys,

is how much of a performance improvement you typically expect to see from one driver release to another. Oh, okay. Yeah So here let's have a look at this one Control F percent And nope Well, we got we got nothing specific there. Oh, is it really gonna redo this search every time I hate that I Hate that so much. Now I have to right click and I hate this too.

This triggers me so much when the right click behavior is altered so you can't open it in a new tab easily. It drives me absolutely bonkers. No, okay, well whatever. The point is occasionally NVIDIA release a driver. That's like yeah We've got a 7% improvement here a 20% improvement there I'm expecting that title by title But the other thing you've got to bear in mind is that if Intel is showing

Destiny 2 like if that's what they decided to show they didn't pick a worst-case scenario Yeah, so those like 15% improvement here, 20% improvement there. On 1080 low. That ain't necessarily coming on Destiny 2. I'd love to be wrong about this. I would love to be proven wrong about this, but I think that Intel's discrete graphics is basically gonna turn out to be their integrated graphics

on ROIDs and it's to be great in 10 years. That's a long time. Yeah. I'd say, because, okay, here's the thing. We're going to get another console refresh in a year. Okay, yeah. Every console refresh brings with it a big jump forward in visual fidelity because all of a sudden the consoles are running modern hardware again.

Woo! Yeah, I'm really stoked about that. And game developers can actually design around that. Yeah. So Intel is going to be way behind, way behind, because the games coming for that console refresh in there, whether it's a good port or a poorly optimized one, are going to be more demanding on Windows and Linux, for that matter, or Mac, for that matter.

Hey! Hey! They're going to be more demanding on gaming PCs than anything that we've seen before. And Intel is already looking like they're going to be barely competitive with a last gen mid-tier card, and we've got another generation of NVIDIA cards that will probably have launched by that time as well. Something that you just made me think of is when you listed the Windows and Linux and Mac,

is something that's going to be really cool is once that PC is out, if it's a real thing, whatever, is that gaming PCs will have the whole family back together. Gaming PCs will mean all three of them. That is true. That's actually pretty cool. Go Proton. I like that.

Okay, so they're already behind the eight ball today. They're going to be even more behind the eight ball once another generation of hardware hits us from NVIDIA. I just don't see it being relevant until they've had quite a lot of time to iterate if what they're targeting is this power-efficient mobile gaming type of solution. Behind the eight ball? Yeah.

I don't think I've ever heard you say that. How does that make sense? How does that work? Behind the eight ball? Yeah. It means, like, behind. Why would that mean behind the... Because the eight ball is the last one you're supposed to get in the pocket?

I mean, I don't know the... What is it? Epa something, whatever. Behind the eight ball. Idiot. Virgin. Okay. Behind the eight ball means placed in a difficult situation from which one is unlikely to escape.

Oh, because no one wants to hit it. Because you can't hit the eight ball. Look at that. Well, now I know. To be in a difficult or awkward position, to be at a... Okay, this other definition seems to be more like what I'm saying. To be out of luck in a losing position, to be baffled as to what to do or how to proceed.

Yeah, that sounds closer. I don't play pool, but as far as I know, you can't hit the eight ball until you've sunk all your other things. I believe if you scratch the eight ball, you lose. Yeah. Like, immediately. I think so. Yeah.

So, yeah. So it's difficult. Okay, sure. Scratch the eight ball. When show. Looking up random sayings. Figure out what they mean. Look, I don't make the rules here, okay?

Wait, you can have a stalemated pool game? How does that work? What? If after three consecutive turns at the table by each player, six turns total, the referee judges, or if there's no referee, both players agree, that attempting to pocket or move an object ball will result in loss of game. The balls will be re-racked with the original breaker of the stalemated game breaking again.

Huh. Huh. So I guess if, like, all the balls remaining are so close to going in? Wait, what? That there's no, like, feasible way for you to... I don't understand. I guess if the eight ball is positioned in a certain way, if, like, one of the balls is way, way, way too close to a pocket, I'm assuming,

and the eight ball is, like, no matter what in the way of it, so you'd no matter what hit the eight ball... But they have to take three consecutive turns, which means presumably that they would play a scratch and put another ball up on the table. I don't really... Okay, you know what? It doesn't matter.

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i thought you were going to review that car i still have are you just trolling me right now is that what's going on well no trolling me no because we had a follow-up conversation to this not way too long ago and i thought you said you were going do it For like 2019 mm-hmm and then get another one mm-hmm. Yeah, I was okay, and I didn't okay, I mean I actually Like I have I just I genuinely am not yeah Then I think I got it in like fall of 2018 at this point I've had it over a year what I had actually intended to do was keep it for a very short period of time. And, you know, I like it. There, there's your review. Nice.

So I have not, in fact, ended up changing my car. It's very practical. Very practical, you know. I'm a practical kind of guy. I've had a lot of people ask me, why don't you get a Tesla? And because I didn't, because I paid like 20 grand less than what you would for a Tesla, and I have no range anxiety. Teslas are expensive.

I plug my phone in if I need smart car features. Not a smart car, that's a different thing. Sony, speaking of of cars built their own car okay before we get into this i really want to talk about the naming thing ps5 what do you think well it's obvious it had to be ps5 what else were they going to call it yeah yeah no no i mean i okay i actually i wrote an episode of tech linked for the first time ever. Oh. In all the years that TechLinked has existed as a format. Okay, not back when it was NetLinked Daily. So back when I was just winging it.

But ever since it was a scripted news roundup, I have never actually written it. Okay. Not once. Yeah, okay. I wrote it for the first time on Tuesday for Wednesday's episode. It was fun, and I actually addressed this exact issue because Riley had glossed over it. Clearly didn't watch it.

But I thought it was really funny that people were giving them such a hard time. I don't get it. I agree that they could have done something edgier and more futuristic looking for the design. Okay. I 100% agree with that. I thought the PS2 design was super cool because I'm old and whatever. I thought it was cool. I think that the PS3 one was kind of a little bit try hard.

What does it genuinely look like? Is it this? Like the console-hard. What does it genuinely look like? Is it this? Like the console? Yeah. That's it? I think they could have done something... That's pretty new and different and edgy. Yeah, I think they could have done something

that better matched it. That's all I'm trying to say. That better matched it? Yeah. Oh, you think the name could be something that better matched it? No, no, like the logo design. Like, I have no problem with them calling it PlayStation 5.

Oh, my God. Why didn't they make it a V? See, I don't know. They could have done literally anything, and it would have been more than what they did. Because the console, it has a V symbol on it. Yes. Like, that's not even stretching that far.

The thing that drives me nuts is everyone looks at Xbox and goes, oh well you can't count linearly. And everyone looks at everything else and goes like, why can't you just make it a simple name? And then PlayStation's like we got you. This is the fifth one that we have made. Okay. Everyone's like, wah! USgamer.net

Here we go. That's boring. PlayStation. That was an excellent design for the time. It was. It made the point that it had 3D graphics. It was a PNNS. It looked pretty cool. Fantastic. PS2. I thought PS2 was super cool. It looked very, this is a new generation of thing. It's like, it's way better. It's like performance and shit. Really design of the times like like the the slimness especially when they had the slim out the black plastic the the the logo being very edgy lots of edges on the console lots of edges on the logo it was a great looking console for the time

this very spider-man yes i was not a huge fan basically looks like spider-man font 100 yeah um oh they also say spider-man is it literally the same font is it they they say spider-man basically looks like Spider-Man font 100%. Yeah. Oh, they also say Spider-Man. Is it literally the same font? Is it? They say Spider-Man. PlayStation 3 goes Spider-Man. Oh, there you go.

I mean, everyone thought it looked like Spider-Man, so it's not like I was coming up with something new there. I wasn't a fan of this one either. It got updated to PS3. I was okay with this one because I thought it matched the aesthetic of the rest of the console very well. I just never liked the PS3 consoles. So then, wait, what happened to PS4? Where are the... Fantastic.

Thank you for the excellent two-thirds of an article that you had going on there, and then you just... Now... You done goofed. I really like PS4, but the thing with PS4 is that the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox looked so freaking similar. Mm-hmm. Like, they're both... What's... Is that trapezoid? Is that the right name for the shape?

I could be getting that wrong. But they're both kind of like... Parallelogram? Parallelogramic prism? I don't... Yeah, it's been a long time since I've... Not trapezoid, though. Parallelogram, I think, is right. Yeah. Because both the... Yeah, I think you're right.

Anyways, they both had that, like, same general design. I was kind of amazed that they were so similar. Like, this is the PlayStation, and this is the Xbox. This is a burger. This is a Big Mac. Like, I don't know. They were so freaking similar. But it looked sharp.

They looked good. I just think the logo was fine, but then why not change it? They've changed it at every other stage. I don't know. And to be clear. The thing that I saw was that people were mostly angry, but the, not angry, disappointed, I don't know, about the boringness of 5 in general.

But it may have been mis-aimed aggression. Right. And it might have been that the logo itself was boring because they did literally nothing new with it now a lot of people are pointing out that this is what the dev kit looks like for the playstation 5 i still think that there is at least i would hope that there is a chance that they would launch something that cool looking um i think it would be just like such i think it would be fun everything's so boring these days yeah like the new xbox is so boring hey it's a box it's literally a box what's in the box it's literally a box i sincerely hope that sony allowed

these leaks because there's too many leaks for this to have been an accident. Like, I sincerely hope that Sony allowed these leaks so that they could test the water on this design. That is my personal hope. Because I would love to have a game console that looks like a freaking game console. Yeah.

Alright. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. I think it's cool. I like the black and blue one considerably more than the silver and black one. I will say that. Oh, the dev kits? Here, here, here. I'll share your screen. Let me try to get...

I think the black and blue one looks awesome. Here's the dev kitty one. Mostly silver with black accents. Blah, blah, blah. And then here's the one we're talking about now. It's a tiny picture. Just zoom. All right.

Good enough. Yeah, cool. Yeah, I think that looks way better. I think it looks great in mostly all black with the blue lighting. Now, there's a solid chance it'll look nothing like that, and it'll be a boring black box. Sure. I want to let the record show. I want to state for the record the 90s were like

maybe you know maybe a little too far with the like wow that's crazy but then we toned it all the way back to like zero what you didn't like the clear nintendo 64 i actually loved that yeah okay so what are you talking about i mean in general there was some things what the 90s that were a little nuts the console design in the 90s was great I have no issue with that at all amazing that that oh yeah, my favorite one is the purple this right here Fantastic super legit orange and that one never really did much for me I wasn't that into the red either But the the fraud the smoked black one black one was sick the blue one the purple one oh i think all the bottom four they're really cool yeah yeah i still don't own a nintendo i have never in my

life owned a nintendo 64 that was probably oh that was one of our main consoles our main consoles that we had were definitely n64 no snes n64 xbox and xbox 360 those were like the the base for us all right what if sony made a car would you would you trust your life in the hands of sony you know having experienced their laptops i. Okay, hold on a second. When, though? A long time ago. Okay.

Because, like, I don't know. I don't remember. It was genuinely, like, 2008. I don't remember the last time their laptops were actually designed, like. Or, how do I put this? I don't remember the last time Sony actually cared about their laptops. Yeah, okay. But they kept releasing them for a while after they stopped caring about them.

And this is a car. So, hold on a second. Okay. Something I will give out. I saw a comment about this, and I thought it was great, and I stand by it 100%. Sony used to be nuts. They would just make everything, and they would send things out there, and they'd put tons of marketing and production behind it,

and if it flopped, they were just like, and they would just go try something else. And that's how they got into a whole bunch of weird markets. Then they got really sheepish for a very long time, and then they made a car. So, like, maybe Sony's back and that's cool. Do

I want it? No, not personally. But I hope it does well. Here, let's pull it up. Well, so far it's just a concept. Um, it's... Okay, there's someone in the floatplane chat with the name on floatplane. Like, they made an account with this name and then paid money to

line executives with this like this is their handle for sure it is i7 6969x and that is hilarious i just i just love that like that's what you committed to so here's what's exciting to me about the sony concept car not that i think sony is actually going to make a car in response to your question i think i would trust sony to make a car more than i would trust a lot of car manufacturers to make a car now that they're electric to be yes now that the car is basically a rolling computer, I would have a lot more faith in Sony's ability to design and produce and QC it than I would in a lot of car manufacturers. I would expect Sony to do things like provide software updates over time. And as far as, like, if it's a category by category,

I don't have as much trust in Sony. They're cameras. I have a lot of trust in Sony. Yeah, I was gonna say, you have more experience with the cameras, which might drive you a little more. Whereas some kind of home automation thing. Because we, I mean,

LTT lived off a Sony camera for a long time. off a sony camera for a long time oh yeah yeah for a long time they're still great um and like they're like if they did like some weird uh like skunkworks type like side project i don't think i would have as much faith in them uh would i buy a sony tv i mean that's that's a funny one um lg display not to be confused with LG electronics, LG display makes the OLED panels that pretty much everyone and their dog is using in high end TVs. Sony doesn't actually manufacture OLED panels.

So why is it that for quite a while actually, Sony had what was the best regarded OLED TV? You would think LG electronics and LG Display would be able to work together pretty closely to make sure that LG Electronics has the best darn LG Display-based thing, but that's not quite how it works. Sony managed to squeeze more out of the technology than the guys who basically work right next to the campus where they make them. So if it was something like a TV or a display, I would actually have a lot of trust in Sony. So cameras, I could be 100% sure.

Sony is far and away, sorry, I don't mean video production cameras now, I'm talking about tiny image sensors, like what you would find in a cell phone. Sony makes the best ones, period. So I would trust that a Sony car would be absolutely riddled with them and that they would all be Sony cameras

and that they would work really well. So there's certain things that I'd be like, oh yeah, okay, I can get behind that. They have a lot of talented engineers. They care a whole lot. And a decent amount of the stuff that i would be worried about like working are stuff that is for sure going to be solved by outside companies like the brakes yeah exactly like you can just and the wheels you can build your own motorcycle from scratch you can build your own car from scratch by going and just

buying enough aftermarket tuned components to just actually make one. That can be done. You have to find a frame and stuff. But you can literally also buy kits. Exactly. Yeah. So, you know, I don't think that a lot of the traditional automotive things are going to be complicated for Sony.

I mean, the things that took the most R&D are no longer relevant. The internal combustion engine and the transmission. Like, that was the most R&D are no longer relevant. The internal combustion engine and the transmission. Like that was the hard part. Now I think really the point of this Sony concept car is that anyone can make a car. Yeah. Honestly, yeah, that makes sense. Especially if you're outsourcing the motors at all.

Like the motors and the batteries, if you're outsourcing the motors and the batteries. Now, with that said, I'm not saying anyone can run a successful car company because there's a lot more to running a car company than building one car, figuring out your supply chain and logistics issues, your regulatory issues, all that kind of stuff. That's way more complicated, actually actually than building a car at this point from my understanding so anyway we can talk about it a little bit vision s concept car built for the passengers experience and safety the platform was engineered by magna a vehicle supplier the safety cocoon has 33 sensors in

total including high-resolution CMOS optical solid advanced driver assistance system suite oh no a solid-state lidAR, radar, time of flight sensors, all of which are fused together to create an advanced driver assistance system suite. Individual speakers per passenger seat allow users to listen to their own music. I doubt that that works very well. The dashboard display spans the entire width of the vehicle.

See, I would trust Sony to have great displays in their vehicle. The electronic setup looks really cool. Internet connected, kept up to date, and add new features, has a valet mode, says this platform will be able to support other types of vehicles, like SUVs. No indication of

it ever making it to a production stage. You know what? I've talked myself into it. I would strongly consider a Sony car, especially if they were... If they release their car, you review your car, flip it, and get this one what do you think fine i'll do it i will buy the sony car cool i will put in a pre-order the minute it goes up for sale you hear that sony yeah i will buy the sony car because i don't like tesla's attitude

i've talked about this on the land show before i don't like their attitude and if Sony was to come in and be Someone with because I don't necessarily I'm not necessarily after the like, you know the the wheel alignment experience I'm after because the the computerized features of a car are kind of more important to me at this point. So If someone were to come in and challenge Tesla in that space So if someone were to come in and challenge Tesla in that space where they're providing updates, adding new features, all those things that Tesla does without being anti-right to repair, I'd be very interested in it. What if they still are? Well, I kind of already shook on it, didn't I? That's a relative assumption. I feel like you could take it back based on that. I don't want you to, but that is a very understandable stance if they

were anti-right to repair then what's really the major then i might as well just go buy a tesla because they've got the track record at this point yeah so like i i feel like that's a reasonable out i all right fair enough someone says when did sony start releasing software updates um they do firmware updates for their cameras they release a lot of playstation all the time sony is the cameras that's true and the a lot of the knowledge about sony then goes to the console which like you might want software updates for your console faster but they it doesn't mean they don't release a lot of them yep and they kind of won the whole last console generation yeah lands, landslide victory.

That was, yeah, they took that one home. No doubt. I mean, Switch. We're talking Xbox versus PlayStation. Yeah, I mean, the Switch was like, I don't... It was quite a bit later.

How many people you think own a Switch as their only last-gen console? Ooh, interesting. Probably still a decent amount, because families and stuff. And me. You don't have a PlayStation 4?

No, I stole the Works one for, like, a long time. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, you would have had to get one then. A PlayStation 4? Yeah, would you have just not bought one? Yeah. Really?

I'm that cheap. Wow. Yeah. So you I'm that cheap. Wow. Yeah. So you just, all those games that you were willing to like. I made an agreement with AJ. Steal from me in order to play. Yeah. That was fine.

Oh, yeah. But like $400 of which you're only out like maybe a hundred of it because you can flip the stupid thing in six months. No. No. Okay. No. I made an agreement with AJ. Now, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. No. I made an agreement with AJ.

Now, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, back up a second. Because you wanted to play the games. Oh, yeah. The difference is I don't want to play the games. I just don't care. You wouldn't go out, buy a used console,

lose maybe $20 or $30 on the deal, and flip it again after you've played the games. Bull stuff. Yeah. He would have owned it. Really? Probably not. No, I don't buy it.

Talk about your deal with AJ, but clearly you're a liar at this point. We shouldn't be listening to you. I'll get into why not in a moment. Fine. I had a deal with AJ that I would play Horizon Zero Dawn in 2020. I stopped playing it when it first came out. I was really excited for it to come out. He really liked it a lot. I was like no

I'm not gonna play it and as a joke. I was like yeah in 2020. I'll play it. This was like 2017 It's 2020 now, and I've basically just been like I can't I don't have one sorry Hey AJ. He did say hey AJ. He did say he did say he can still borrow our ps4 anytime he wants I said once the lounge is back up. I might play it from the lounge Because I don't want to take it home, but I might play it from the lounge And the lounge is coming well AJ heard what I said too, so Heard what you said he heard what I said I could play Detroit become human so I might do that instead actually

But and that's on PC Adele that's on the Epic Store, so... Do you own anything from the Epic Game Store yet? Me neither. Yeah. Yeah. That's not actually just because I'm cheap. Technically, my company does, because we had to, like, put Fortnite on computers

so that we could do videos about LOL for a day. It's a free game, though. Well, I have an account. Like, LTT Benchmark has an account. I don't have a benchmark account. Yeah, but you haven't, like, bought anything from the Epic Games Store. Oh, yeah, I guess not. Yeah, you just install the game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if anything, I'm bringing them down. One free download of the game and no microtransactions at a time. Yeah. Woo! Perfect. Dell shows off the Alienware Concept UFO You know what I'm going to use the business insider

Source for this story Look at this thing It's a Switch Yeah But you can do PC games on it So straight up I haven't looked into this like at all Is this a remote play thing Or are these playing natively off the device

No these are playing natively off the device Does it support remote play Well, or are these playing natively off the device? No, these are playing natively off the device, as far as we can tell. Does it support remote play? Well, presumably it would, because anything with a Steam account supports remote play, so there's that. Oh, wow. Thank you. Thank you, Google Docs. It always does this. I'm halfway through

the show, and it just logs me out of my account. That's wonderful. That's great. Oh, appreciate you so much, fam. Yeah, so basically, it's a little portable console that looks like a switch it looks like it's maybe a little thicker looks like it's maybe a little wider the controllers in my opinion ergonomics don't look entirely there but they might even end up being a little bit better just because they are a little bit bigger and we are holding a single controller by itself yeah it's a little small on the switch um i was hoping that they would fix in my opinion the one issue that i have with the switch is the joysticks are so small that like they become annoying to use if i'm trying

to play something very seriously and if i'm trying to do like a game where you have to hold the joystick in a direction for a long time, they become a little frustrating. I have little caps on mine, and even then, it's, like, still not great. But they look really small on this one, too. It's got an 8-inch screen compared to the Nintendo Switch's 6.2-inch screen, so it's larger and noticeably heavier. The side controllers are detachable, just like the Switch, with a connector to turn them into a standalone controller, just like the Switch.

It's got a kickstand for seated gaming and can dock to be used with an external display. So it is otherwise a fully-fledged Windows PC. Here, I'm going to share your screen for a second there. It looks, like, it looks very large. It looks really big. Like, if you look at this dude's hands, or maybe, I don't know. But if you look at this person's hands, that controller compared to a Switch controller, unless this person has tiny hands,

is huge. It's really weird the way the perspective of this image makes it kind of hard to tell that this is a straight down line. It looks like an angle. It looks like the screen is

a trapezoid. But it seems, and this looks straight down instead of angled. There's more of a gap here, or less of a gap here. Yeah, exactly. But just the way that this image is shot, where it's closer to the top and farther from the bottom, makes it kind of look like this is straight down, but it's clearly not.

The screen has to be square. So it looks like they slide on at an angle. It looks like the screen, yeah, it looks like the screen, the display is square, but it looks like the framing is genuinely. The frame is like A-frame. Yeah. Yeah, and that's a really weird choice. I don't know why you would do that.

That might be okay because your natural hand position isn't. That might be okay, because your natural hand position isn't... Yeah, but you could have just as easily just made the device thicker and had a bit more room in it and made the controller a little bit straight. Like, I don't really get it. I don't know. And, like, do these controllers clip in? It looks like it, yep. Do they slide in?

Oh, hard to tell from that picture. So Dell insists this is a concept, but those who had hands-on said it appears to be very polished for a concept device. This is speculation on our part, but with Intel's demo of their new Xenon discrete

graphics... Wow, look at my... It just jumped because of ad loading. Thanks, Business Insider. But look how... Oh, my God. Maybe it's possible this device was a demo for that and they just couldn't talk about it.

Look how huge that is. Yeah, it's pretty chunky. It's not small. And especially in a lady's hands now, it looks that looks difficult to use really unwieldy. Yeah Huh all right Cherry updated their MX switches for a hundred million actuations, which is really funny Because I remember talking to them when we did our factory tour And they were like well the whole however

many millions of actuations is basically just a dick waving contest and we're not going to participate well they participated competition's getting a little bit more spicy we talked to them while we were there about like you guys need to produce more because there was a huge error there which I think a lot of people have forgotten about

where like certain places couldn't really make mechanical keyboards and certain companies that were making mechanical keyboards were having supply issues because they couldn't get enough Cherry switches. And Cherry essentially was like, hey, anyone ever interested in making a Switch company, if you want to just come take a

giant amount of business from us, that would be great because we're just not going to produce anymore. And then companies did, and now they're here to stay for sure. And they're actually doing quite well. To be clear, they didn't literally say that. They just sat on ass. Yeah.

That's the point Luke was trying to make. And I think now they're hurting. Yep. That's what happens. Trying to claw back in. And I'm kind of disappointed because I was a Cherry fan. Yeah. And I still kind of am.

But like, they shouldn't have had to do this. They should have just had better production. We saw their, like, entire production, and it was, like, a relatively small room. Yeah. Like, what? Cherry increased the gliding surface area on the key switch stem as well as the included eight guide rails

on the inside of the switch housing, and they're calling this new solution Hyperglide. They also showed off their new Viola switch design aimed at more budget-oriented keyboards. And this is the company's first fully mechanical switch for the value market meant for keyboards that will cost between $1500 so I'd be I'd actually be quite interested to try that out I guess that's pretty much all I have to talk about for now do you really care that much about that pot stash box oh no I

was I was just confused with the name of the okay well whatever there's a pot stash box and it's got just i was just confused about the name of the thing okay well whatever there's a pot stash box and it's got facial recognition wi-fi and bluetooth there's a built-in scale that works with the mobile app ha um okay sure it's a box they won an innovation award even though you're not allowed to have cannabis at the exhibition because they didn't mention cannabis. It really needs this. It has an LED display, backlit LED display, just in case you didn't think it was backlit, that shows the time and outdoor weather.

So it disguises itself as a clock. Cool. That's pretty funny. I mean, it's fine. It's just a box, though. All right. Like, maybe it has, like, stuff that makes it so you don't smell it from outside of the box. It does really look like a clock.

Oh, here, hold on. Oh, my goodness. All right. Oh, wow. Way to ruin everything, Luke. Well, I think they have a thing that's like, are you sure you want to be here? Yeah. Are you 21 years old? So can i even show this um no yeah okay okay uh well it looks like a clock it does yeah it looks like a really old desktop clock like a really old one all right we're gonna get to our super chats in

one memento please i'm really happy the innovation award went to a desktop clock that is also a box great great work are we in the wrong line of business like maybe maybe we should make boxes yeah should we just make like a cute one? We always do all the hardest stuff. Let's start a new company making YouTube videos and then let's start a new company hosting videos on the internet. We're always like what is the highest difficulty possible thing? Yeah. And we could just, I don't know.

Make boxes. Yeah. Just what if we just. That has like probably under 99 cent from China electronic little clock in it. Like what if we made a cookie jar that like, you know, when the kids walk up to it is like, you better go ask mom first. Done. How many millions of those do we sell?

You can make it look like a flower pot. It'll look like a little cat, you know? Perfect. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Sweet. You know, you could have like... It has a clock on it. Yeah, you know? Perfect. Nice. Yeah. Yep. Sweet. You know, you could have, like...

It has a clock on it. Yeah, you could have, like, tokens. Why not? Like, the kids could go get, like, it could have, like, a little fob that goes on your keychain. So the kids have to go use the fob in order to open it and give your keys back. So, like, you know, it's, like... There. Boom.

And it just, like, complains... Million dollar idea. It complains until it's properly closed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it makes noise while it's open. Like, honestly. Do we just go get a hardware engineer right now and just make this thing?

I don't know who to be more disappointed in. The awards company thing for giving a box with a clock on it, the Innovation Award at CES, or the entire rest of the consumer electronics industry for not making something better than a box with a clock on it. Like, I don't know which one. I don't know. Who knows? But there you go.

All right. Carpool Critics, guys. We have a movie podcast. It's over at carpoolcritics.libsyn.com you can find it on twitter at carpool critics uh james riley and david are the main talents i don't know if they did one this week because they were down at ces but generally speaking they'll be hitting a new movie every week and ltx save the date august 8th and 9th these These need to be corrected. You can find the full details at ltxexpo.com. We highly recommend that you be there.

We already have creators RSVPing. I forget which ones I'm actually allowed to say because we have to ask them, hey, is it okay if we confirm? Yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, there's already creators that are going to be there and I'm really, really excited.

It's going to be a lot of fun. So Super Chats, I hope the LTT offices are insulated and your pipes are covered. Next week it's going down to minus seven. Oh my. Yes, it's insulated. I can't show it to you. Wait, you know what? I'm going to show it to you now. Do you want to read some Super Chats while I show them the

insulation? Sure. Where were we? Da da da da da. I sub to Floatplane but I watch on YouTube to improve monetization. Is that the best way? I mean, sure, if you're into it. I would just watch on Floatplane because the better quality.

But, I mean, you can do whatever you want. If it's satisfying, do it up. Insulation on the wall. Actually, it's for noise dampening, but whatever. Minor details. Still kind of works, I guess. Someone deleted their message. If they were smart.

Here's an interesting, spicy question. PIA rep on Wanshow, when? You guys mentioned you were going to explain like a month ago. Been a PIA customer for a long time. Acquisition worried me. So I think we were supposed to have done it already but then something something the three different time zones of the parties involved we had to push it but it is still going to happen at some point okay um it says don't forget to hire madison okay i i don't

she would there would have to be a position she was qualified for that we actually had available so we'll see she can apply like everyone else um aiden says forgotten weapons is a super cool channel excited to see them on flow plane some guy in twitch chat asked where can i buy luke's shirt ltdstore.com go go go uh ilia says so right here i guess he knew that that was a joke my bad so women's ltd underwear is real now by the way amazed by the form of the mother of three great great job Yvonne. I will let her know. And no, it's not real. She just made that out of scrap fabric. Yvonne made ladies underwear.

Out of... I attend the internet. Ah, fair enough. Ben says, remember when Luke was wrong? Legally, this has to be brought up every year. Do you remember when it was over? I don't. You don't?

I don't anymore. No. I do. It was a Pokemon. It was the typing of a Pokemon. Oh, okay. I don't remember which one. Robbie says,

Are you going to do anything with Oculus Quest Steam Link VR? Yes, we have a video coming soon using the link cable and all that kind of cool stuff. Alright, sorry guys. I'm only gonna be able to do so many of these. We're actually way over time on the show today. I just realized that. Would a 3900X be a decent upgrade over an i5-3570K? Do you even have to ask that? You spent five dollars to ask that instead of upgrading your CPU. Cake ya boy 1337 you got to get yourself together over there. Cakey This is a great idea

Tim Wade says scrapyard wars idea each team gets a GTX 1080 and has to barter their way to the best benchmarks Interesting. I like it. I think we should start with something better. Like, we should start with an RTX 2080 Ti or something. I don't want us to have too much money, though. Like, that was a, yeah. Right, but you can make, when you're talking trading, because you can't sell it. Oh.

Okay. So when you're talking about trading. Trading for money is like a thing. No. Yeah, no. Okay, I now understand you. I like it as bargaining. So trading for items.

Yeah. So like we're old school, fiat doesn't exist. Yeah. There is no Bitcoin. Chickens and eggs and milk and cows. Okay, so this could go two ways. You could paperclip it where we start with like an old kind of not great system. That would take months.

That might be kind of impossible. Yeah, it would take months. So we're starting with something crazy. So we're like trading someone a really nice graphics card for like their whole computer. Yeah, but then... That's probably how that would kind of end up going. And then we have that and we can work from there. Yeah, because otherwise you've got too how that'd kind of end up going. And then we have that, and we can work from there. Yeah, because otherwise,

you've got too much value tied up in one thing. So you have to get the best, like, multi-item thing. Because you could trade it for anything. You could trade it for a car, for all that, you know? Ugh. Interesting. One of the... A fun rule could be that the first trade

can't be a computer part. Oof. That would take so long. It would probably take too long. It would take forever. It would be entertaining, but it would probably be impossible to document properly. Mexinen and Cheese says, How about not a mineral oil PC, but a deionized water PC?

30-minute computer? 30-minute computer, yeah. That would be kind of an interesting video, though. How long will it last? We've talked about it before. I put a hard drive in water and it died. Instantly? Not quite instantly, but pretty fast.

Yep. Is there any way to constantly... And not one with breathing holes. A sealed one. Oh. Okay, yeah, you're good. Is there any way to constantly constantly progressively deionize water? Like, could you counteract the chemistry?

I honestly don't know. That'd be fun. Alex? Pasta Pochkin says, First year anniversary with my girlfriend. Could you shout out Jaria and Dil? Yes, I can. Jaria.

Jaria and Dil. Jaria? Jaria and Dil. Oh, I see what you did. Hey! I'm just messing with you, Jaria and Dil. Jaria? Jaria and Dil. Oh, I see what you did. Hey! I'm just messing with you, Daria and Jill, both of you. FaloFlaw says, I got here late. Did I miss Intel's funeral?

Oof. Ouch. Ouch. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Luke, can you do a kickflip? You didn't ask for this story, but back when my brother and I were kids and skateboards became really popular for our generation

because they phase in and out constantly, we had this old, terrible scooter. And it had like a bolt-on handle thing and it had a flip up at the back, but the front was flat, and it was just horrible. I don't even remember where we got it from. But we decided, hey, it's a skateboard

if you unscrew the handle, right? So we did that. Not really. We tried for so long. I mean, like, genuinely a very long time. I don't think either of us ever were able to land a kickflip. What we did do, though, was some pretty sick, you know,

when you're standing there, you just stomp on the tail and you watch it flip for a while. That was entertaining. Because that's pretty much as far as we got. There you go. Ben Quigley says, Got Spectrum here from the forum, seeing as it's my birthday. Just a reminder that the LTT folding team exists.

Come fold, people. There's no event. Just folding. Yeah. Sounds good. Johnny Lombak says, thank you for recommending CrossCode. I bought it recently, and I absolutely love it. You still haven't played it.

You suck. I've played CrossCode. You suck. I haven't beat it. I've played it. How far in are you? I bet my son's further than you. Probably.

He's actually gotten shockingly good at it. I think the babysitter's been letting him play video games more than she's supposed to because he's like actually really good like he's using The tech tree and like using abilities to beat bosses that like I know for a fact I didn't show him and stuff like he's getting to the age where he can actually figure out games on his own Okay, actually I need your guys's help This reminds me.

What is it called? There's a Final Fantasy VI mod. World Reborn, is that what it's called? I think so. Brave New World. Okay. So I got an email from someone recently saying, hey, I know Final Fantasy VI is like your favorite game of all time.

This mod makes it better in every way. Okay. So here are some of the, and i need your guys's genuine honest thoughts if you haven't played it shut up are you gonna stream it if you've played it oh i don't know i hadn't really thought about that um i would i would watch you play that i would watch that stream okay complete overhaul of final fantasy 6 featuring character-based Esper restrictions, so you can't just put any Esper on anyone you want with the

level-up bonuses that come along with that so you could, you know, turn you know, Strigo into like a tank or whatever else. So you can only assign, I think, the maximum for like the magic-heavy characters is like they can have up to six Espers. Or seven. So you can only assign, I think, the maximum for the magic-heavy characters.

It's like they can have up to six espers. Or seven, seven or something like that. New stats boosts that promote greater diversity and allow for customized development. An esper leveling system that disassociates esper bonuses from traditional levels. So you don't have to have the esper actually equipped at the time that you level up. You buy the bonuses from the espers i don't mind that so it's more like a credit for esper bonuses instead of having to like in between every random encounter like go into the menu and see who's about to level up next and flip around their espers like that was really tedious and stupid um new and reworked formulas

which rescue everything that isn't magic or magic evasion from the dump stat heap. So basically the idea is that it makes physical and magic both important. Like worth investing into. Evade was just outright broken in the game. Like it actually just didn't work. Didn't function. And apparently it fixes that. Rebalanced equipment, items, spells, and skills that aim to remove dead weight and give players more and better choices. Overhaul of enemies from their stats to their behavior to better challenge veteran players and newcomers alike tons of bucks bug

fixes a new script that's a little scary that restores much of which what was lost in translation now you can just put like the game boy advance remake script in there if you feel like it or the original bill will see script if you really want to do that too is my understanding. So they're not necessarily changing the storyline. Maybe. I heard that the script... Okay, so I read some posts on Reddit that were really focused on 1.9, which came out quite a long time ago.

And they said that the updated script had like pop culture references and like memes and stuff in it. Now, the original script also did. Oh, so maybe it's... Like Biggs and Wedge are the names of the two first characters that you meet. No, no kidding.

That's cool. Not by accident. I hope they don't change that. That's pretty sweet. But there's very little of it. Like very, very little. So I want to know, should I go play... It's not a difficulty mod,

but it is harder than vanilla Final Fantasy VI, apparently. Should I play it? I will take feedback from Floatplane first. You guys... Oh, Broken Trim Chain says they just ignore us here that was it you wasted your comment that i was gonna read on that way to go over now it's all over now that was the end yeah um so no there's nothing in there have you played kotor i didn't get into it you didn't like it? I didn't get into it. By the time I touched it, it was already a pretty outdated RPG. Yeah.

And you know what? No offense to the people who hold it very near and dear. It did not age well. Yeah. It's, like, tough to play. Like, the targeting is— the combat is really rough. The conversation stuff is fine, but the combat is very, very rough. So I didn't even manage to get into Neverwinter Nights 2,

and that came out, like I tried to like it because I paid for it with my money. And that was three years later with what I think we can probably agree is fairly um three years worth of progress better gameplay um the first one of those sort of dnd inspired games that I really got into was dragon age and I know that was pretty normie so that should give you guys some idea dragon original Dragon Age was sick though the original Dragon Age was a great game but I know a lot of D&D hardcores were like

this is too dumbed down this is they've gone mainstream now and sure they might have done that but it worked great for me I loved that game so KOTOR was really not something I was D&D is a little mainstream if you're in the

tabletop space though. Just saying. There are other games. You could spread out. You don't just have to play D&D forever. You play other tabletop RPGs. We've got someone else after your own heart here. Astoroth says nothing aged as well as World of

Warcraft. Yeah! It kind of did. it did age very well uh drandy says everything you're saying is going to start a riot linus like what do you guys want from me um so did you know okay in a video a while ago you look at the camera and you say brb tornado while ago you look at the camera and you say BRB tornado yeah did you know that was the guild name yeah oh yeah you told me that okay yeah yeah yeah yeah I didn't know because like that was immediately screenshot and just put everywhere because people just loved it yeah yeah I was just messing with you okay okay I thought you were I just wasn't sure the second the second someone sent it to me, because I didn't know about it,

I watched it and the way you looked at the camera, I was like, he's talking to me. So this is pointed. The SebiGamer says only play it if you've played the vanilla before. Well, yeah, I've played the vanilla before. It's like my favorite game of all time. I would like to watch you play it.

That would be my vote. I would watch streams of you play it that would be my vote i would watch streams of you play i have to stream it okay yeah i think you should stream it i'm getting surprisingly little feedback um the sink says i agree i don't know who you're agreeing with uh i have multiple friends who liked it and still speak highly of it but when i tried it no thanks it's just not as engaging as they said. They're biased, simple as that. Okay.

Got it. I did not play Morrowind. So Morrowind was another perfect example of a two deep RPG that I just didn't get into. Morrowind's amazing, but it's really hard to go back to if you didn't get into. Morrowind's amazing, but it's really hard to go back to if you didn't play it. I can go back to it because I remember all the systems and it doesn't feel that foreign to me. I played Oblivion first.

That was my first Elder Scrolls game. Oblivion's a lot easier to go back to. And well, it wasn't a matter of go back to, like it was my first Elder Scrolls game. And so I was like, that was a great game. I want to play more Elder Scrolls. And I went back and tried to play Morrowind and I was just like, I walked down some path,

got immediately just... Dunked. Just like crushed into the gravel. So in my opinion, the best way to go back and play Morrowind, especially if you haven't played it before, if you have played it before, you might not have to lean onind, especially if you haven't played it before. If you have played it before, you might not have to lean on this. But if you haven't played it before, it's to cheat.

There's a few different skills and things that you can artificially crank up that make the game just kind of not stupid. Like an old, and this comes from D&D, but an old gaming thing is just that you like miss all the time. And it's not fun gameplay. Yeah. And Morrowind is extremely in that realm so you walk up to like this giant dumb crab that can't do anything and you have a sword and you stab it in the face and the game's like miss and you stab it like a million times and you have to get your long sword skill up or whatever then there's individual skills for like every very granular type of weapon which is cool, but also makes the gameplay really annoying.

You just can't hit anything. It's like I'm the world's most masterful swordsman, but I can't even pick up a bow and arrow without it immediately falling out of my hand. There's really clunky things in the game. To get past those tedious game mechanics, cheating and just individually cranking some skills will probably make your experience better.

Patrick Finney says, I prefer the original Japanese release of Final Fantasy VI versus the US Final Fantasy III. And that is, I guarantee it, exactly what you sound like. What else we got here? Okay, I'm pumping a straw poll out here dominic says remember when everyone was saying the original wolfenstein graphics were so realistic and you go back and look at it and it looks like a multi-cade game. Yeah pretty much. So nobody seems to like have played this thing or like know

anything about it pretty much. There's a couple of posts in here but I'm reading basically everything that I see but someone says they want me to stream it. So you know what? Maybe I'll just give it a shot. I've got I've got a legit cartridge so I can I won't feel bad just playing Final Fantasy VI. Votes are pouring in, but I think we've already kind of got our percentage breakdown. Okay, so apparently I've got to play it. And I can tell you, I feel like I'm going to hate it. Because a lot of why I love Final Fantasy VI so much,

it's grindy. Most of the skills don't matter at all. The puzzles are honestly not really challenging by modern standards even. Maybe part of that is that I know the game like the back of my hand. Not like the back of my hand. I've never min-maxed it or done any, like, challenge playthroughs.

I did a min-max of Oblivion, and it gets ridiculous. But you can, like, jump whole buildings and stuff. It gets nuts. But that's why I think you should stream it. Because if you're going to replay a game, like, I had a lot of fun. I did this when I used to do those charity streams where I'd play one game for an hour. One second. I need to ban Mike Godovin

He says sorry Final Fantasy 6 is trash Okay, I am reporting you for hate speech and her actually can I do harassment and hate speech? No, I got have to pick one. Would you say it's harassment or hate speech? Would you say it's harassment or hate speech? I was gonna say harassment Your charity streams. Yeah, right, so I was listening I'd play for one hour each game whatever doesn't matter But I played Morrowind for an hour And I just had to pack in like all the as many not all not even close to all but as many of the little

Secrets and tricks I've learned over the years years, it was really fun and people enjoyed it. And I think showing people that stuff and showing people why I liked Morrowind was one of the big reasons of why I enjoyed that segment. I don't even know if there's a great reason to like Final Fantasy VI that I could demonstrate to people. But I think... The music is great.

But I think watching you go through the experience would be a form of entertainment, even if it's not like, hey, exciting. it would be a form of entertainment to see you relive a game that I've heard you talk a lot about. You know what? I actually had a, I ended up killing like two hours reading this blog the other night. And it was amazing. So it's a translator who works on Japanese to English translations. So it's a translator who works on Japanese to English translations. What was I looking for?

Ah, here it is. You should read it. It's absolutely fantastic. The site is legendsoflocalization.com. Oh, yeah. Do you know this? I know of the website. I haven't seen this one. Clyde Mandelin?

Mandelin? Whatever. It doesn't matter. Created this system for seeing the dialogue from five different versions of the game on the same playthrough at the same time. That's really cool. And he goes through and just, there's streams to go along with it. But these are just like the highlights. I'm a reader, not a stream watcher,

so I ended up just reading it. But just kind of talks about, so here's the original Japanese, which he'll often say like, you know, how close the various translations got to because he can read it. They've got the Game Boy Advance translation, this fan translation that's famous for being terrible,

and then talking about how great it was compared to the Bill Woolsey translation, this fan translation that's famous for being terrible and then talking about how great it was compared to the Bill Woolsey translation, which is the original North America release. And then they've also got Google in there for fun. And some of the stuff that Google spits out is absolutely amazing. Some of the stuff

That's pretty cool. Yeah, some of the stuff, the fan translation or the original one that I never realized how confusing some of the dialogue was because when I'm going through and playing for myself, I know what's going to happen, so I don't need to worry if foreshadowing was done wrong. Right. You know?

Yeah. But there's some stuff where the meaning of what the characters are saying was dramatically altered. I'm like, oh, okay. Apparently he famously had almost no time to work on it, and there were some censorship issues with Nintendo of America where there's some pretty explicit

language in the Japanese one that he had to be like, do you want to come sit with me? Soldier boy! When the Japanese is not that. Like, oh, you know, to let you through here, you got to bring me some liquor. Whereas the boys like, yep, apple cider.

Okay. Anyway, okay, maybe I'll try it. Maybe I'll try it. I think it'll be fun to watch. Okay, there's one more Super Chat that I really have to read because it's like $100 Super Chat. You're nuts, Mr. Idnetguy2004. No idea what... He has done $100 Super Chats multiple times.

He's done these for... This is like the third... There's more than one. There's two on this one. What are you doing? I think he's got to be close to like $1,000. He's donated through this. What are you trying to achieve

i'm back yeah we see that but like there's three there's two i'm back two just no i think there's just one i'm back yeah just one i'm back yeah okay but then okay okay there's a legit question in this other one here hold on a second linus how can i get 10 gigabit Ethernet to my house? And remember me? Um... 10 gigabit Ethernet. Well, it doesn't really work that way. So, okay. So if you want 10 gig LAN,

you need to get a 10 gig switch, Cat6a cable, and 10 gig network cards for all your devices. If you want 10 gigabit Internet, it won't come over Ethernet. It'll come over a fiber connection that you, like, literally pay contractors to dig a trench to your house and tie into your local ISP. I mean, he might have the money for it. Yeah, I mean, if you give out $100 Super Chats for no apparent reason. Like they're candy.

Okay, I'll just read the ones that are related to the Final Fantasy VI mod. Al Baker says yes. Yugi Satan says yes. Daggerfall? Glurung says, you realize Final Fantasy VI is older than most of your audience. And on that note, I think we're done here.

Thank you very much and good night. Good night.