The WAN Show - Is This The Worst Rated Game EVER? - WAN Show Jan 31, 2020

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Let's do the thumbnail during the stream. Yeah. Let's do it right now. We're live now! How's it going everyone? We're trying to figure out how the heck streaming works now that Linus is gone because we haven't used the YouTube dashboard in a long time We're gonna have a great show. We have tons of news We have more updates on on your blizzard on my blizzard stuff escapades at this point. Yeah, yeah We're talking with the next folding phone from Samsung. Yes. Also, we have a topic literally just called Huawei UK.

So that's awesome. And Eve, when I first read this title, I thought we were talking about the video game. But no, we are talking about the like crowdsourced monitor. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the E5? Yeah. Okay, good. Good. Good Good, that's gonna be an interesting conversation actually. So yeah catch us after the intro There we are this is so weird now that this is the intro that's just been going on for years

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I'm all right. I'm good. I woke up at 3 a.m. I'm tired, you know, but I'm okay. Wow. Yeah. Take a thumbnail. Take a thumbnail. We'll do that. When you want us to do that literally

right now, I'd have to title it and everything. No, we're not doing that. Yeah, that's silly. That's baloney. I'm great. Thanks for asking. Sorry! Things are fantastic here at LMG. There's so much action lately. How has been...

This will be an interesting conversation. We won't talk about it way too long. But how was being a part of LMG and seeing Linus do the retiring stream? Oh, I felt... I don't know. I thought that... I assumed everyone had the same reaction that I did.

But I heard that the next day, people who work here were reaching out to him being like you're okay um but i saw it and i was like yeah like i i knew that already like i knew that for the last whatever amount of time like year or something he's thought about these kinds of things and especially when earlier last year the channel was dipping, he really was sensitive to that and was trying to think of all the different things he could do. And that was great, and that's how you survive in this business. I think that's why we've gotten as far as we have.

Because he takes that seriously and he re-evaluates everything. He's like, what about our titles? What about our thumbnails? What about the stuff we're covering? And audience sentiment and everything. Work on all of that and also diversify revenue streams. Yeah. Survive.

So, yeah, I saw that stream, and I saw immediately from the titling of it, I've been thinking about retiring. I was like, okay, this is not any announcement of anything actually happening. Yeah, I love it. There was so many people debating about, like, oh, I wish it wasn't so clickbaity,

and I was like, it wasn't, though. It was actually one of the least clickbaity things. If you know Linus, you know he's not wrong. You know he's not lying with that title. But you should also know that it's supposed to be click worthy. It's click worthy. Yeah, it's click worthy. Not technically bait because it's very true.

And I don't mean to say that I think that his emotions were contrived or put on at all. Like he's being authentic in that video, 100%. But I wasn't worried by it at all. I actually did message him after I watched it. I was like, bro, I'm down to make any environmentalism videos that you want. I always have weird little questions like when I'm just going through my building. Like I wonder how much energy per year these lights that always stay on use. Or how much energy does my elevator take?

Should I take the stairs? Or, like, when I'm streaming music? Do you know? How much does, like, two elevator rides a day? I did a casual lookup on an elevator, and it wasn't a deep dive, but the things that I read were, like, because of the counterweight systems, they don't take that much energy. Oh, okay. But that might still be, like, a lot of energy, but maybe just not that much compared to the mass that you're lifting up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But Linus is fine. All right. So, Linus is fine. You wanted to talk about the Warcraft stuff first? Do you want to talk about the game? Hold on.

There's just so much more exciting stuff to talk about at LMG. Like today I hosted My first video ever for a new channel. I don't know if Lance has talked about. I'm not gonna talk about it It's on floatplane, which is why I'm talking about it at all Yeah, it's public knowledge to some people but yes, we are starting a new channel, which is cool. The name You can probably give them that. I don't know. No? You can subscribe on Flowplane and see the name. Yeah, we'll leave you hanging. I'll throw my own little... And if you're on Flowplane, you can actually subscribe to the channel

because there's a link to the channel. Oh! The actual YouTube channel has been created. It doesn't have any videos on it yet. It doesn't have any visual assets yet. You can be one of the first. Well, yeah, there's like 200 subscribers at this point. And another thing that's awesome here is a new podcast we have yes that's been out for a while since like all of 2020 but there's a new lmg podcast that's not the wan show it's

basically it's an audio only podcast it's not on youtube although it is on floatplane in video form and it's called carpool criticsics. Why is it called that? So it's me and Riley and David and David's the camera person here. Riley's on TechLinked and me, I'm here right now.

The three of us and Lloyd used to carpool together. We all lived in Vancouver but then Riley moved like an idiot and it sucked

because we used to have these really sick conversations in our carpool all the time. You know, when, know, as just a millennial white dude, you're like, every time we have a good conversation, you're like, this should be a podcast. We should be recording this right now. There was a lot of that.

And then when Riley moved, we were like, man, we miss Riley. I wish we could find a way for Linus to pay us to hang out together again. And so we pitched Linus the idea of having a movie podcast, and he loved it. I think in part because of the whole retiring speech thing. It's like we need to think of new ways to create this empire. So, yeah, he liked the idea, and we've been doing it. I think we've released 10 episodes. We've recorded probably 13, but some of them didn't

make it but we there's 10 now in full force and you can get it wherever you listen to your podcast and it's fun i told i thought your your comment about the like just talking makes you think you should make it a podcast thing it reminded me of uh i think about two months back i sent linus a message and i was like we should have an off-topic podcast so we can just have an excuse to hang out more. It's like, eh, if we can monetize it, it'll probably happen more often. I mean, people don't not want that. There's tons of podcasts that you listen to. It's just two people that you think are interesting talking for three hours

because you're just driving or cooking or whatever. Yeah. And so this podcast is a little bit of that, a little bit of movie analysis, new movies, old movies, and it's awesome. Carpool Critics, wherever you get your podcasts, and you can follow the Twitter, which is carpoolcritics site at Twitter, and you can email us too.

We've replied to every email. So here's a question for a podcaster, and you can't answer your own. What is your favorite podcast? Oh, I have like a short list, but one that I really admire is Reply All. A lot of our listeners will know that one because it's tech and internet culture focused. Those guys are so funny, man. I love Reply All. Do you know this podcast? No.

It's awesome. I'm not very much on the, I'm not a very podcast-y person. Oh, you should check it out on your drive home. They're shorter too. And they do awesome like super tech support things where someone will be like, why am I getting random charges from Uber in Romania? And they'll be like, okay, I'm going to find this out for you. And they'll

go and do some journalism and come back with a really interesting story. That's kind of cool. It's a great podcast. I'm very into the audiobooks. Oh, really? I've only done... I do audiobooks really hard. I've done a couple. I do like very high double digits Every year for sure Really

Probably in like the 30s or 40s I was into that until we started Well same with podcasts All that ended when I started carpooling That makes sense to be fair I'm almost always alone in the car So I'm just like audiobook And then I'll get way too into it and just sit in the car

Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. I have to get to the end of this bit. I did Dune by audiobook and I was like on the SkyTrain just pretending I'm on the phone, but I'm just listening to it. I don't want to buy Bluetooth headphones. Hey, so... And I'll hold it to my face. I saw a note in here that

your Blizzard thing has been resolved. Yeah. You were banned on Blizzard for like, you were suspended for six months from WoW. I was suspended for six months from WoW for cheating, was the original thing that they told me. And then I pestered them a million times with a whole bunch of different

tickets, and they eventually told me that it was for unauthorized external program use is I think the exact way they phrased it, but I could be slightly off there. Did they tell you that after you got in the live chat with the guy? No, the live chat guy just wouldn't tell you. He was a jerk, and he wouldn't say anything. Okay.

So this was email correspondence from before that, and he referenced, I believe, he didn't say what email specifically, but I believe he was talking about that email that said unauthorized third-party programming. specifically but I believe he was talking about that email that said unauthorized third-party programming after that last WAN show and I think in large part the LMG clip that was made of that segment someone reached out and got me a phone number of someone at Blizzard that I was going to call but literally before I could call them I was gonna call them in like 10 minutes I received a call from they actually called you

They called me they found my over the number. What did the number come up as it was just a It was a random number and I was staring at it being like I don't want to pick up like a call Like right before I did that it it flipped to like Blizzard Entertainment. Whoa, okay like screenshot flipped to like blizzard entertainment whoa okay like screenshot i so yeah i answered it and i don't know like to what level of detail they want me necessarily go into because i know uh that their reason for not wanting to give me more details was that they don't want it to help people avoid bandsans, but no, there was no external program. They didn't even necessarily, they had no particular program in mind.

They just had a suspicion that I was using one. And they did some stuff to kind of solidify the decision that they thought I was using one, but they had no, there was no like, oh, our application detected this running on your computer. There was none of that. It must have been some kind of, like, algorithmic flagging that happened at first.

Yeah, I don't want to go, like, way too into it. But effectively, no, I wasn't, so they unbanned me. Huh. That is the conclusion. And, like... Well, it's a good thing you're Luc Lafreniere. So, this is where, like, and I've told some people, including my dad and my brother and my mom, who I play WoW with and I brought this up a million times, that, like, this part sucks,

but I think for journalistic integrity reasons I have to bring this up, even if it compromises my account in the future. But, yeah, that's terrible. The only reason I got unbanned was because of this show. Yeah. Which, like, thank you guys for creating a ruckus, and thank everyone for- thanks to everyone for, like, tweeting them and sending emails and contacting people that you know at Blizzard, because the guy on the phone was like, Yeah, I heard from everyone about this. Wow.

So we decided to look into it further. And it's cool that they did that and unbanned you, it just sucks that that's not available to everybody. Yes. And, like, the communication up to that point was horrible. Yeah. The tickets that I sent in, no one ever... I had no legitimate conversations. And then by the time I actually did have a legitimate conversation, the guy was just a jerk.

Yeah. And, like, super sassy and completely unhelpful. Kicking you to the curb until they're, like, see your name tag. And then they open the Velvet Robo right this way, sir. Yeah. And, like, that Battle.net account has CD keys on it from 20 years ago. Yeah. like see your name tag and then they open the velvet robo right this way sir yeah and like that that battle.net account has cd keys on it from 20 years ago yeah and has purchased every single game they've ever released all this kind of stuff they they found a very dedicated customer and just

six month banned out of nowhere and then like the first communication that i sent out being like what even just happened part of the response was like yeah well usually this would have been a permaban so like you should be thankful stop sending in tickets so like i don't know the communication from them was was really terrible i'm happy i'm unbanned but i feel bad for like every kid out there that didn't do anything wrong and is also banned for six months or permanently if that was well i don't think they do perma bands anymore I think that was their comment was like this used to be a permanent used to be yeah, okay I might have said that wrong, but they were they were saying like yeah, this same thing used to be a perma band So yeah, I don't know I feel I'm happy. I got on band, but if I feel I

Didn't do anything wrong And I don't know if this is the right emotion but I almost feel guilty just because I know there's other people out there in the same spot, and they're still banned, and they can't do anything about it. And that makes me feel bad. I didn't do anything wrong. I don't deserve to be banned. I'm laughing because you could take the word banned and exchange it for something way more serious on Earth.

Put it in jail. You know? Yeah. They're still mutilated. Or whatever. I shouldn't laugh at it. We're only talking about being bad. It sucks. Yeah. There are worse things, but. Yeah.

And there's still other parts that suck. Like, I lost that time. Like, I lost that progress. And there's certain things in the game where, like, if you're not. What progress? Like, uh, like, PvP competitive ranking stuff if you if you don't do it it your your rank decays oh yeah so while i was banned i like deranked oh man sucks and like there's a bunch of other stuff but like ultimately it doesn't matter the only thing is

just how frustrating the whole experience was and the fact that if I did not work here I would still be banned. That's the part that really frustrates me. And that's the reason why I'm like, I'm happy I'm unbanned but I'm still actually really mad is because most people would not be able to get out of this situation. Who knows, maybe they'll change something after they see this. This is one thing I want to drop because the phone call was relatively short and I thought of a bunch of stuff I should have brought up afterwards,

and then if I called it back, it would just go to some random number because I don't have the extension. But if you guys want help reforming your customer service, holla at your boy. I've got some ideas for you. Seriously, that was a terrible experience, and I have many ideas of how you could improve it, and I would be happy to help, free of charge.

I'm imagining just like the most white glove phone call that they call you up, and they're like, your rank isn't going to decay. In fact, we're going to give you extra double plus. I don't even think they like that. There's a pizza on its way to your house right now. We know you like thin crust. It's not going to change the tone of the conversation. But yeah, I would just like toin Crust it's not gonna change the tone of the conversation

but yeah I would just like to help you fix it Blizzard's been in a bad way for a long time and we're gonna talk more about that later on in the show when we talk about Warcraft 3 Reforged and potentially one of the lowest rated games for user scores on Metacritic

of all time and why it's so low and I honestly think they are for... Why don't we just talk about it right now? Let's do it. I think they're for surprisingly related issues. And the guy that unbanned me is probably so pissed right now because this show is so negative.

Well, you should have sent a pizza. Yeah, there. Perfect. I lied before. You're like stuffed crust. Yeah. Stuffed. Yeah, but Warcraft 3 Reforged, it has a Metacritic critic score of 63.

Although I noticed WCCF Tech, one of our favorite sites to bring up on WAN Show, gave it a 75. Although their opening statement with giving it a 75, this blows my mind, is Warcraft 3 Reforged isn't the game that was promised. But 75. But 75. But 75. Okay, well, without going any further, I can see how that might happen. Like, today at lunch, I'm talking to Jake about Star Trek, and he's saying how he loved Discovery.

And I haven't seen the show, but the consensus I've heard so far is like, yeah, it might be an okay show, but it's not Star Trek. Star Trek is about going to new planets and experiencing new cultures and figuring it out and figuring out what it means to be human. And in Discovery, as far as I can tell, it's more about intraship drama and not about going to new places. So Jake, who's like born in the year 2000 and doesn't have all the canon,

all this reference point, he just sees this show as he sees other shows and is like, if you go in without those expectations and all that baggage, it's a good show. So is that what they're saying here? If you had no expectations, if you didn't know what Blizzard was promising, it's a good game? Potentially, because the next part of that line is,

but it is still a valuable reconstruction of one of the most influential titles in the history of video games. So I think they gave it a 75 because Warcraft 3 was really good. So what was promised? There's, so in terms of the promises, there's a few issues there. I don't know enough about this. And if you want to learn more about it, there's some actually like very good videos on YouTube detailing all of the issues with Warcraft 3 Reforged But I'll go over what I do understand part of the issue as far as I know is that

Some of the the especially the cinematics there's one cinematic in particular That's quite egregious and is actually still on the Warcraft 3 Reforged website as far as I know as of right now it was like I As far as I know, as of right now, it was, like, I think nine-ish hours ago, but I don't know if it still is. But the trailer for the game talks about, like, new awesome cinematics, and they have an example of one. That example is the same thing that they showed at BlizzCon. That example is not in the game.

Oh, okay. And, like, the equivalent of that cinematic is way worse. And most of the cinematics in general are way worse. Worse in what way? They're just... What do you mean the equivalent? Like, it's the same one, it's just, like, lower res, or... Like, basically, instead of a cinematic, if I remember correctly, and again, you should

probably go to a better source for this if you're all that interested, but it's basically just, like, a lowered camera angle of the units talking instead of an actual proper cinematic. Okay. And what was advertised looked like more of a cinematic. They might be able to get away with it by being like, no, that was a trailer that we mentioned new and improved cinematics in, but we weren't talking about that part. Okay.

Even though that part was a cinematic from Warcraft 3, like they could probably hop and skip their way through it. But, yeah, it's just kind of awkward. Then, so if you move past the like cinematic and graphics and stuff that people do have some amount of issue with, and they were apparently possibly going to be changing the story,

and then they reneged that, which was probably a good move, and a few other things. People don't like retconning. Well, actually, that's not even retconning. It's like revisionist. Yeah, that was just kind of weird because StarCraft got reforged or whatever. I don't know if it had the same title, but it got remade,

and basically they just upped the graphics, and then we're like, there you go. But they didn't even up them that much. It still had the kind of spirit of the original. Yeah. I don't think anyone could get mad, really. No. Sweet, bonus.

That's probably what they should have done here. The really egregious part, in my opinion, and I'm pretty sure this is why it has a user score of 0.7, and I think this is really why everyone is so mad. If it was just the cinematics I could see some like lowered scores and some people being kind of upset, but I think this is where people go go kind of off the wall is They changed how the custom game stuff works and Warcraft 3 like I played Warcraft 3 an amazing amount I ended up buying multiple copies of the game so kept on losing my darn CD key

The only thing I ever played, I played the campaign like once, maybe twice, and then custom games forever because custom games in Warcraft 3 were amazing. You mean they just changed like the interface or? No. So they added a bunch of rules which probably make a lot of sense

and other companies have started doing these things as well where they have more rights to your content and controlling your content. And a lot of that comes in with, like, you can't use other IPs in this game. So you can't have, like, Super Mario Bros. Tower Defense in Warcraft 3 because that's an issue for a bunch of reasons. And that existed in the original Warcraft 3.

That wasn't really a problem, but the landscape has shifted, and this might be an issue now. You can still do poker tower defense. Yeah, probably. So, like, there was some stuff like that. I don't think anyone cares about that part. The issue was they added on a thing where they own outright everything that you do with no, like, they don't have to pay you for any of it or anything. Titles, art, as far as I know, it's literally everything.

Oh, so if you make a really badass game or a new map or something like that. Like Dota. Yeah, okay. They own it fully. Or like Big Game Hunters or something like that. Sure. Then they just, oh, this is great. Let's just put this into the circulation of tournament play and we just own this now.

Yeah, Wintermall Wars. You just made Wintermall Wars TD and for some reason it popped off bigger than Dota. Blizzard owns the entire thing now. It seems very pointed at Dota, I think. They were like, there's a custom game that ended up becoming a highly successful individual game. We don't want that to happen again without us having control of it,

so let's just own everything on the platform. That's bad enough take that a little bit further they went back to warcraft 3 the original one and they changed that oh and this is where i think like the same rules this is where if again i'm i'm fairly certain i'm right here but you should definitely definitely look this up because we didn't have notes for this before the show and I'm just kind of spitballing off of things that I've heard. But as far as I know, they applied all the same rules and they killed Bnet on Warcraft 3. So you, like, have to play through Warcraft 3 Reforged now. Oh.

I'm, like, glancing over the chat just in case someone corrects me. But I think that's how that works. But either way, they sure pissed a lot of people off. There's currently 7,729 ratings on Metacritic for user scores, and it's at 0.7 overall. One dude rated it a 10, and 75 out of 1,400 users rated it as helpful. That rated it.

So, like, the opposite amount of those people rated it specifically as unhelpful. Oh, God. 0.7. Can you give a score of zero? No, I think, yes, I think you can. Someone gave a one. All these people gave zeros. Yeah.

What are they saying? What's, like, these these short snappy ones? This is... S-H-I... Dot, dot. Slower. Like a snail. There is also a lot of...

A snail on Quaaludes. So what that guy's talking about is there's a lot of performance issues and a lot of people are having like full stop inability to play the game type of problems. I really don't think that's the reason for how tanked the score is. Right. But if it compounds it. That is not helping for sure.

But yeah. I've seen, I watched a video really quickly of one creator talking about all these issues and he brought up like, Blizzard used to be known for their absolute polish and like things launching well i'm like well did they not really a lot of blizzard launches have been really rocky um but i think their appreciation for community uh looking at the the the band stuff that we were just talking about looking at how they're

treating modders with work of threeorged and all that kind of stuff is at an all-time low. That's not good. It was called Remastered, I think, StarCraft. Okay. Yeah. Okay, there we go. Should we do some tech news?

We should do some tech news. Well, before we get into the Huawei stuff, what about the next folding phone? Okay, do you... I think you and I did talk about the Galaxy Fold. Yeah. The big one. Linus ended up loving it.

Yes. Were you excited at all for that phone? No, because it was just purely too expensive. Yeah, it was like $2,500. What if there was like a $1,000 version? A grand? See? That's like an iPhone.

Yeah, but I'm not a very good target for this. What the heck? I don't like this. Google Docs, you should change that. I'm not a very good target for this just because... Are you going to show us? Yeah, I'm working on it. I think I have to do my screen.

There we go. I don't know what this is supposed to be. It's an ad that didn't load. Not loading. But I'm still running a Pixel 2. Okay. And I'm happy with it. And like in not way too long,

I'm planning on just like swapping the battery out so it'll keep going. Oh, nice. I don't game on my phone. And everything else works perfectly fine. So. It's really that or pictures, and the pictures are still good.

Yep. They're good enough. Yep. This thing, though, is interesting because the premise of the Galaxy Fold was that it's going to be about the same size as a normal phone in your pocket, but then, boom, you basically have a tablet,

and you can do all this new productivity stuff. But it's kind of, like, double thick. Yeah, it's going to be like a candy bar. So it's, like, a little bit bigger, but the thickness, I don't think anyone's complained about phone thickness for a long time. It was pretty fat. It was probably thinner than this, though. Yeah. But it was also narrower. It was like a candy bar. But this device is kind of just like this. But folds in half. But folds in half. I personally see no benefit to that. What is the benefit to that?

Because then you've just got something in your pocket that's double thick. I think it's... What about lady pockets? Man, even my pockets. I don't like putting this in my front pocket. Like, I'm not going to ride a bike like that. Yeah.

That is, like, stabbing me. That might be better. If that was just like that, but chonky, that's like... But would you buy a whole phone specifically just for that? But it's not just for that, because it's still a good phone in every other respect. If you're going to buy an S10... Is that going to be the deciding feature for you

to buy one phone over another phone? You know what it would be? The sweet action of being like, okay, got it, click. Boom, like flip phones phones hanging up or answering. Hello? I love that. I want that in my life again. There's definitely some loss of satisfaction there. I used to have a

slider phone and just being able to like the as you're pulling it, like you slide it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The satisfaction of as I'm like pulling it out of my pocket, sliding it up to answer the call was so cool. Have you ever had a fight on one of these phones?

No, you take a hike. Carefully put down. Something nice about the cheap corded phone that you can throw across the room and like slam down on the receiver. The other thing that's sick is when it's closed, I can just confidently put it in my pocket with keys or something. Because the screens are so sensitive.

I'm so careful with all my phones. I usually run naked, maybe a skin, like a D brand, with no case. Yeah, I like running naked. Run naked through the woods. And I'm so careful with the screen. I never put it in the same pocket as anything sharp like keys. It has its own dedicated pocket. No coins in there, nothing.

I put it on the table always face up because I had a pass phone, like, get a scratch. Must have just been from slagging it. And still, my Pixel 4. After having it for like three weeks, it does have a scratch in the top corner. Really? Why? On the screen. Yes.

I don't get that that often. How? I'm fairly careful, I guess. I don't, I've never, I don't put my phone in the same pocket as my keys. I do wallet, phone, one pocket, keys, other pocket. Yes. As a rule all the time. Do you use screen protectors? I usually do.

This one doesn't actually. And I've had this phone for a long time. I just feel like they just add a little layer. I don't want that on there. You know? Yeah. The only screen protectors I ever used long term were tempered glass ones. Luckily, those have gone down in price a lot.

I haven't even seen that. Really? Have I? Phantom? I had the one that you go in the mall kiosk and they put it on there. And there's a video monitor that shows a drill hitting the phone ghost armor that's what i had ghost armor ghost armor yeah okay not familiar is it flexible well my phone wasn't so how do i know well it's just on there yeah so yeah this is a it's a leak this is not an official announcement. This phone is called the Galaxy Z or Zed,

and it's probably gonna come out pretty soon. Maybe it's early as Valentine's Day at MWC, or maybe at, oh wait, am I screwing this up? I might be thinking of another release date. It might come out soon though. We actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. We don't know if that's gonna be pre-order or for sale, and We don't know if that's going to be pre-order or for sale. And we don't know if it's going to be $1,000 or $1,500.

I would kind of bet it on it being $1,500, honestly. You know, they had, like, back in the era of slider and flip phones, when those were king, they had those kind of, like, square-shaped phones that could flip out. Do you remember those? I had a Keebo. That was a slider, but when it slid,

it was like a horizontal keyboard. Okay, but that was a rectangle. Yeah. And you, yeah. Are you talking about like the same dimensions as a Game Boy Advance SP? Yeah, kind of. Yeah, they had more square formatted ones. I always thought those looked super stupid.

And that's, to me, what this looks like. You know why they keep showing it in 90 degrees like that, though? Is because it doesn't, it's not a binary flip. It's not closed and open. You can actually ratchet it. Or it's continuous. Why would you do that? I don't know. But you can.

You can put it on a table like that. Okay. Maybe you could, like... Make a mirror? Yeah, or maybe just, like, a video and you're, like, it's, like, its own kickstand. You're eating your cereal And there's a little video playing okay, but like in the in the era of so many people having those popsocket things on the Back of their phone yeah, you can use those as kickstands. Yeah, I don't like them

But like a lot of people have a lot of people do by the way I think that we should have an Linus tech tips pox Sock pop it seems like a pretty easy thing to do. I think we should do it. Guys, Linus, he keeps ignoring me. If you guys... Oh, my God. You should do the chin photo.

Everyone should tweet at Linus. You should do the chin photo. It shouldn't even be the LTT logo. It should just be the Linus chin photo in a circle on the back of your phone. I bet you you'd sell a bunch of those. That'd be great. We have to do something with that photo.

It's too sticky. It's so good. You guys should also do a shirt that's just super zoomed in of his face in that chin photo. Yeah, it should just be the blue shirt. Like the blue background is the color of the shirt, and then it's just his head. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah, that'd be great.

Innovators. Okay. Next topic. I guess that's it for that phone. Okay. There's so many phone news. There's a lot of talk about this Huawei scandal. All right, let's do it. Have you read about this yourself?

No. You know? So what happened was, I guess, the UK is trying to build out its 5K network infrastructure. 5G. Sorry, 5G. No worries. And they were, they had, it's like a bid.

Like there's lots of different companies to go with and they don't have anything domestic. So they have to rely on a foreign company to build this for them. Yeah. And the headlines are all, you know, despite US pressure, UK allows Huawei to build out their 5G infrastructure. And everyone's like, ah, spies. So the UK government says it will allow telecom giant Huawei a limited role in building its new 5G data network. They say that they're not going to let them do any of the sensitive stuff.

So the UK's National Cyber Security Centre, which conducted a security and technical analysis for the government's 5G supply chain review, says it considers Huawei a high-risk vendor. There's a list of these high-risk vendors. Huawei's on that list. But rather than banning the company from its important new network, the center is asking British companies to use Huawei in a limited way so that it can collectively manage the risk. Now, this agency, the NCSC, formed a special Huawei Cybersecurity Evaluation Center 10 years ago. I think at that time, members of the government were just thinking of using Huawei for their network infrastructure

without, like, nobody knew any of the risks. And they're just like, oh, that seems like a good vendor. And then someone else was like, wait, Hold on. We need to create a whole agency to investigate these guys and They and and this agency also warns other countries that they should not include Huawei in their 5g network plans unless they have a really robust regulatory system and yet Yet they they themselves they aren't doing are hiring Huawei. It's like, how good are Huawei's prices? Seriously. Yeah, I don't know.

It feels, that seems like a self-dig to me. What do you mean? You shouldn't include them. I guess they're partially, yeah, I don't know. You shouldn't include them unless you have a really robust regulatory system. And then they're including them, but only to a certain degree. So I think they're just saying like, ours is okay. I think they're saying that this is robust.

They say that they're not going to use them. There's two conditions. They're not going to use them in their like core infrastructure, the like really high security stuff. And they're not going to use them for greater than 35% of the network. But all of this is problematic. That's still so weird. The sensitive core parts of 5G and other high-speed networks. So that agency's explanation is this.

They say that they weighed all the options, but they blame a broken market for limiting their choices for large-scale 5G suppliers to just three, Nokia, Ericsson, and Huawei. And Huawei is, of course, the high-risk one. In that environment, the best strategy for the UK is not to become nationally dependent on any one supplier. So they're going with all three suppliers. And that's why Huawei is limited to just 35%. It's just like they're doing a third of it.

They're getting their part. And the other companies are doing each a third of it as well. Yeah, yeah. So that's kind of like contrary to the headlines that you saw. That like, we're letting them do it. It's kind of like we're letting everybody who bid on it do it we're trying to diversify to to help save ourselves if if like one or two of these companies end up being terrible yeah but there's some problems there's this um article that we have

listed here this uh source number three it's from this australian dude who used to be a member of the australian signals directorate and this is a group that tried to design a suite of cybersecurity tools that would give the Australian government confidence that a hostile intelligence service could not leverage their national vendors to gain access to 5G networks. So they said, this is a quote, we asked ourselves, if we had powers akin to the 2017 Chinese intelligence law, that's that law where the Chinese government has to have access to whatever data from any company. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. So that's called the 2017 Chinese intelligence law.

They're saying if we had that law to direct a company which supplies 5G equipment to telco networks what could we do with that power and could anyone stop us and we concluded that we could be awesome that no one would know and if they did we could plausibly deny our activities safe in the knowledge that it would be too late to reverse billions of dollars worth of investment and ironically our targets would be paying to build a platform for our own signals, intelligence, and offensive cyber operations. Yeah. It's like, if that's their goal.

Yeah. But like, I don't know. In Huawei's defense, the CEO is like, I would rather shut this company down than create a backdoor for the Communist Party to exploit. That's the statement, but it's like the counter to that is like, we don't believe you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all you have to say. And, like, maybe how involved in actually, like, doing that kind of stuff is he? Like, the Chinese government could have people as part of the company that is setting this up completely under him without him having any control or mind of it at all.

Like, how does he know? They're a gigantic company. Yeah. One really interesting point that this person makes is that this defense that we see in all the articles is that they're only going to be involved in a limited way they're not going to be involved in the in the core stuff but you know i don't i know very little about 5g but this guy's saying that the idea of core versus edge that is the paradigm for 4g does not apply to 5g in 5, if you want the benefits of 5G, it's more of a distributed system rather than centralized.

And so you need to be able to handle sensitive data at the edge, really close to the clients. So there's just no way to have a protected core. It's all out there. So when you say that Huawei's only going to do 35%, well, it's like, which 35? It's all vulnerable it's all important hopefully not your neighborhood yeah who knows that's weird i don't know this whole situation is very odd i'm kind of surprised the u.s didn't jump in more just because of how

aggressive they've been about other countries using Huawei 5G. I'm kind of surprised, even though it doesn't make a ton of sense, I'm kind of surprised the U.S. wasn't like, we'll help subsidize this, don't use them. Because they've been very aggro about it globally. Yeah, well, at first they jumped in and were like, hold on, I have it here. U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said the U.S. will help U.K. reduce risks associated with involving Huawei in its 5G network.

That's the latest. That's the update. Before that, he had previously suggested that Huawei's equipment posts a spying risk, saying that we won't be able to share information with nations that put that into their critical information systems. It's like, we're not going to play with you, UK, if you do this. Wow. But I guess they reneged on that, and now they're just going to try to help mitigate the risks.

Which, yeah, interesting. Which increases the cost, because if a lot of this is like, hey, Huawei has really good technology, and it's a pretty good price, then it's like, well, what are you factoring into that price? Notwithstanding the price of secure data, which is priceless, you still have to invest in all these mitigating features. Yeah. Interesting.

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easy to do one day these were off the wall and i had to put them on the wall and i was like oh no i don't know how to do it and And then I was done in like almost immediately. Just because like this sticker part, I was like, it might be confusing. It's super straightforward. And then if you ever want to swap them out because you decide you want to put a different one up, very easy to do that.

Very easy to change their orientation. You can do whatever you want with it. I'll fix that because it bothers people sometimes. There's tons and tons and tons of different versions of disc plates that you can get. I know fix that because it bothers people sometimes. There's tons and tons and tons of different versions of disc plates that you can get. I know at Linus Media Group... There's even some with us on them. I think you have your own, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not the only one. Yeah, I think there's four? I think there's like an Anthony one where he looks like Morpheus. Oh. They're fun. My dog's on there. Yeah.

And ducks, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He comes from my old Twitter. Is that still my Twitter banner? Where I was like, when I was getting married, I was in this really cool hotel. I had a bunch of weird tchotchke in it, including a stuffed bird, and I was just like, just holding it, really gravitas-like. Anyway.

Anyways, it looks cool. They have over 250,000 different arts, spanning a bunch of different styles, and influencers, including LMG. They plant 10 trees for each disc plate purchased, which is very cool. And we're going to jump to... Hold on one second.

And they designed that poster of me, by the way. That wasn't us. Yeah, they just looked on my Instagram and stuff, and all the ones of us, they put together. That's cool. I didn't actually know I had the link for this. So now that I have the link for this, we're going to check it out really quick. Once it loads.

Oh, yes, there's a couch. Oh, I'm right there. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I thought there was four. Apparently there's five. But here's the James. Oh, my fat kitty. That's fantastic James oh my fat kitty that's fantastic what is that girl one?

oh it's a girl holding it it's just her holding it whoa I think they just is that chopped? I think it's just green screen did she really hold? yeah

yeah I'm pretty sure it's just green screen and then they just swap them on was she holding me? really? did she hold my display? um but yeah

anyways those are super cool if you're into that. And moving forward, LTTstore.com! LTTstore.com! For as often as we say LTTstore.com, it's actually really hard to say. LTTstore.com. LTTstore.com. LTTstore.com.

Why is it hard to say? The T-T-Store. Yeah, it's the T.T.S.T. T.T. Store. T.T. Store. Nice. I haven't seen this yet. Anyways, 10 million.

I was going to say. No, I haven't seen it on the website. Oh, the photos and stuff. Yeah, okay. 10 million t-shirt, limited edition. I believe they are pre-orders. The shirt, as it says on the screen, is going to be gone forever at 11.59 p.m. Pacific, February 2nd. A-prime is in there.

It is limited. It's limited edition and limited quantity because they're only able to get a certain amount of the black shirts they need to print the logo on. That's this weekend, guys. Yeah. So if you want one, and these are really cool. They are cool. They have this, like, speckle. I don't even know if you can't tell in that image. You cannot like speckle. I don't even know if you... You can't tell in that image.

You cannot tell in that image. I don't think that image has it. They have these speckles in here and it makes it kind of look like it has a patina. Slightly like weathered. Yeah, it looks like I'm wearing like a sweet like

Vancouver Grizzlies basketball team shirt from the 2000s. Yeah, I don't think... I love all these characters you never get to see. Mark's on there. The man himself. The Linus, that one's a given.

Where's he going to put that? Ten. You know it was Linus. You know he went... Right after the photo, yeah. Of course he did. 100%. There's probably a photo with that, and they decided not to use it.

Yeah, on the cutting room floor. There's a bunch of other cool stuff, too. The USBC shirt, the LTD hats. They have T-shirts, sweaters, hats, water bottles. I don't know if they sell the Zashraps anymore. Hoodies, Constellation shirts. That's one of my favorite shirts ever. Underwear.

Their underwear is great. It's my favorite underwear that I own. I'm not just saying that. The lanyards, very high quality. TechLinked can support them. I think we need a... I love the lanyard, by the way. Everyone buy one.

If you have the type of partner, like my wife, who, she doesn't put stuff in a spot. When I get home, I put my keys in the dish, you know? They're always in the dish by the door. She doesn't have any kind of reason like that for things belonging places, so I got the bright orange lanyard, and I put that on her keys.

It's so high-vis, I can find it so quickly now. Yes. That's actually, that's pretty clever. She doesn't like it, but I don't care. Yeah, I... What was I going to say? You need a Carpool Critics thing. Like merch?

Yeah. Ah, maybe one day. Man, like four emails came in during the show. I don't necessarily mean now, but like... Yeah. Sometimes. I don't know what it would necessarily be. I don't know.

We have... There's like some imagery if you watch on Flowplay and there's like a little bus that goes by and... Yeah, no, but I don't know what item it would be. I know you guys have your logos. Geez, I don't know. And your tape and stuff. Yeah.

You guys have some logos. We got three emails since we called out at the beginning of the show. What does that mean? People have been emailing in talking about how much they like the podcast and stuff. And one person who, A, is a girl, and B, is a floatplane subscriber, was, like, trying to give us money. Candice, you don't need to give us money. Well, they already are. Just don't skip the ads.

Because it's a floatplane. Oh, she's a floatplane. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so I guess we can continue the show. Yeah, I want to talk about AirDrop, but for Android. Oh. Okay, so I guess we can yeah, I want to talk about airdrop But for Android oh so weird that it took so long for air airdrop to hit Android So for those of you don't use an iPhone like me the what air drop okay? So not actually airdrop, but it's it's analogous to airdrop. It's the same yeah same tech

Yeah, so, but I thought you meant like exactly the same thing because there's some Apple to Apple stuff That's only gonna work if it's actually AirDrop. Like what? As far as I know. I don't actually have examples. Well, this is going to be – AirDrop is still Apple to Apple. And then this, which is going to be called Nearby Sharing or maybe FastShare. No, Android Beam is gone.

Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's called Nearby Share or something like that. And it's just going to be Android to Android. Nearby Sharing. That's way less cool of a name. AirDrop is so cool of a name. Yeah. Nearby Sharing? Nearby Share or something like that. And it's just going to be Android to Android. Nearby Sharing. That's way less cool of a name. AirDrop is so cool of a name. Nearby Sharing?

Nearby Sharing is not. That sucks. It sounds like the category name. Yeah. Beam was way cooler. It sounds like Android Beam and AirDrop are nearby sharing services. They kind of are. So Android Beam was NFC.

So you put your phones close together. Tap them. Hold there. That made the handshake. And then I don't believe it actually sent by NFC because that's really slow. NFC is like what you use to tap your credit card to pay for stuff.

More authentication based. If you're in Canada. So that did the handshake. And then after that, I believe it was Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. But the way AirDrop works is it uses Bluetooth to do the handshake, and then after that, I believe it was Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. But the way AirDrop works is it uses Bluetooth to do the handshake, and then after that, it sends over Wi-Fi. Now, not over like a Wi-Fi network like your home network. It just uses your Wi-Fi antenna.

So you guys don't need to be on the same Wi-Fi. So that is coming to Android. There was an announcement like a couple weeks ago where Chinese brands were doing that for Chinese phones. Like Oppo and Xiaomi were doing it, BBK group phones. And that's probably still going to be the case in China because this Android version is going to be available wherever you have Google Play services. So that's outside of China. But it's going to be sick. But here's something I don't understand.

I have a question for you. but it's going to be sick. But here's something I don't understand. I have a question for you. Because it says that you can, it'll be over Wi-Fi unless that sucks, and then it can do like a Bluetooth fallback for like really small files. But there's also a setting where you can specify

that you want it only to transfer over LTE. Why would you want to do that? Like if the other phone doesn't have a Wi-fi antenna only over is kind of a weird option maybe like a temporary allow or something like that would be cool because if you just don't have wi-fi or something and bluetooth but you don't you just need a wi-fi antenna don't you like i can be in the middle of the woods and i can airdrop. Oh, so you could make a spot. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty odd. But wait, do you need a hotspot? If you had Wi-Fi, one of them would have to receive.

One of them would have to send. They could absolutely do that. It's not an issue. I thought devices just like you can be in the middle of the woods. You don't need to make a hotspot. And because you have a Wi-Fi antenna and I have a Wi-Fi antenna, it like goes. No? Am I dumb? I don't believe so.

I think one would have to be accepting connection from the other one. Yeah. But, like, does it create a little LAN or something? But this is a new... I don't know how they set it up. Yeah. It's a new implementation. Yeah. I'm not sure. Okay. I just don't know why you'd want to use this LTE thing.

Like, oh, yeah, send this over my data for some reason. At that point, you can just like send it via Instagram DM or something. Some other form of file sharing. But apparently this would be faster than a lot of those. Someone in the chat said it's more secure. That's interesting. I know with

AirDrop that it's encrypted. Are they talking about AirDrop? Correct. Wi-Fi direct doesn't need a router. Yeah. Ad hoc network. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Ad hoc, baby. Good call, good call. Nice. One question is, is this going to be

released at MWC or is it going to release at Google I.O.? Nobody knows. Is it going to be a pixel-only feature at first? That I doubt. Because it's not like a kind of thing that sells phones. This is only useful if everyone else has it. So they're probably just going to push it to everybody. Yeah.

Like, I mean, kind of if I was like, oh, do you have a pixel? Oh, sweet, I can set it this way. That's awesome. You should get a pixel. I don't, I would never really use this. Okay.

Would you? Are you actually gonna use it? There's only been like probably five times in my life where I'm like And that's what I mean. Yeah, where I'm like, oh, I'll just send it to you via Bluetooth or something. It's usually when I'm at like an Airbnb at a ski resort and they're just, the Wi-Fi is crap. Like I can't just text it to

you or make out or email it to you. Like there's no service. Yeah. I guess so. But I think in most of those scenarios I'm very rarely in one of those scenarios to be fair. What about if you're traveling? Have you ever been traveling and there's like wifi at the hostel but everyone's

on it and it's just so slow? Not only are you in a developing country, but 50 people are trying to use it at the same time. And I need to share a file? Well, you're like, oh, yeah, we went there yesterday. Here's my pictures or something. Or we're traveling together, and I want to send them from my phone to your phone.

And I know this is a specific scenario you just gave me, and I'm going after it, but whatever. Usually they would just be in Google Photos, and I would just send them a link to my Google Photos, and that's not transferring the files, because it's in Google Cloud anyways. Oh, so you're just sending me a link then? Yeah. And you can send that easily? If you're Google's Photos person, I guess.

Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like I have already solved this issue by using tools in other ways. So, I don't know. It's cool. I'm happy it exists. I am certain some people use it. I know AirDrop is very useful for, like, my mom.

My mom works in the movie industry, and they like to be able to quickly share things that way. And they, like, have requirements on some shows that you have to have like devices that can use airdrop without any third party like yeah so you can peer-to-peer because they they use it so actively so having an android competitor in that space is great i'm just personally i just don't see myself using it or at least very often maybe they just um they're just doing it now just so they have an answer for every ip iPhone thing there is. Yeah, but iPhones have AirDrop. And you're like, no, we have this.

They're trying to answer iMessage with RCS. Because it begs the question, why now? Why not like 10 years ago? Yeah. I have no idea. I'm happy they did it eventually. But yeah, I think if this came out 10 years ago, I would probably use it now more often.

But because it didn't come out, now I'm just so ingrained. I'm over 30. I'm crystallized. I'm not changing my ways. Yeah. But I feel like I've found reasonable solutions to these problems to the point where I'm probably not really going to use it. There might be the odd scenario where I'm like, oh, hey, yeah. Okay. I know this tool that can solve our problem there

are settings in here where you can make like visibility settings where you can make your device always visible to your contacts or certain contacts or you can make it like ask every time I want you to make yours public to me okay and so from my like seat I can just like send you I can airdrop you stuff all the time from my desk. But then like, okay, that's great and I'm totally down, but why not just use a traditional messaging system? Because I want to do this. But that's my point, it's like it just, it doesn't seem to like, we're at the point

where there's so many other solutions. It's just faster, it is faster. Like if you send a video. Instant messaging, oh. Yeah. solutions this is faster it is faster I give you send a video instant messaging oh yeah yeah but that's if you like downloaded that video or I took the video on my phone yeah yeah you're gonna send me our log videos yeah I'm gonna send them a little faster awesome yeah what's that video gonna be? It remains to be seen. Not for your eyes, stream audience. Remember EVE?

Yes. This crowdfunding company? Yeah. No, they're a hardware company. They had a crowd... A little bit of both. Tell me what you remember. These guys were kind of a blip to me.

I didn't jump on it. It sounded very weird, but I was excited to see where it went, and then were kind of a blip to me i didn't jump on it it sounded very weird but i was excited to see where it went and then it kind of took forever and weird stuff happened around it so i stopped carrying i think that's about it i think it was like in 2017 they basically made like a microsoft surface pro yeah it was an all-in-one thing it's a copycat to that but it was just significantly cheaper and had some improvements like it had usbc yeah it was a crowd developed crowdfunded windows two in one um but then they were terrible at getting it out to backers because i mean it's a crowdfunded thing and that happens basically every time um what they've done now is they've announced a... Kick-ass monitor. A really cool monitor.

So they ditched the two-in-one idea and just went monitor, which I think is cool. Well, I read an article from February of 2019. It was in the aftermath of, you know, that people were really interested in the two-in-one they made, but then they had such a backlog that it was like you gave them some money for the product and you didn't get it for nine months or maybe even over a year.

Then they finally fulfilled all the orders, I think. People got their stuff. Now, some people got stuff when it was like, great, this 2017 era CPU is not so cool anymore. Plus, I probably had to buy another laptop in the interim. I was waiting so long. But as far as I know, everyone got their stuff, and many people who got their stuff loved this stuff. When that was done, they then were, like, talking to their backers about, what should we do next?

Like, just taking ideas? And I guess this must have been one of the ideas. It kind of makes sense. Again, it's, like, not that far of a departure, but it's something that's quite cool. And potentially even the people that were already using their stuff, if you already have the 2-in-1, you could still benefit from a monitor. Yeah, that's true.

If you have your most valuable customers, if you do another laptop, they're just like, well. Okay, well, I guess I could get an upgrade. And if you take two years to ship it to me again, then who knows. But, yeah, I like that the current customers could still integrate it into their setup, and I like that it's probably a little easier to do. So let's talk about how BA these monitors are. They sound pretty sweet. So they're 27-inch IPS panels, I believe, made by LG.

They have one millisecond response times. They have 98% coverage of the DCI-P3 color space and 10-bit color depth. And that's all very cool. But here's what really matters. A QHD display, so 1440p, 240 hertz. I don't think that exists as a mass market product. Okay, yeah. It's pretty sick.

And that's HDR 600, QHD 240 hertz, $509. That's super competitive. The monitors, once you start getting into wicked high performance, price up very, very quickly. 4K at 144 hertz, again, Display HDR 600 for $609, and QHD at 144 hertz for $369. I'm double checking that right now, because I thought I read that the $369 one was 1080p 240 or something.

I thought it was 240. Oh wait, I should just follow the link to the forum. One thing while he's looking that up is they have some crazy ports on these monitors. They have two USB-C ports, three USB... It just says A. Yeah, that's a normal one.

Two DP 1.4s and one HDMI 2.0A and a 3.5mm jack. No, I was wrong. Even on the form, it says it's a 1440p monitor at 144Hz for $369. Now, that $369 is the early bird price. That would be a sweet price, but I think it's going to be at least 10% higher than that. Well, apparently it's already gone up. It was 349.

And it's Display HDR 400. Yeah, nobody cares. Yeah, it's still great. The question is, though, should anyone trust them again? I would be concerned. If I backed this and wanted this monitor, I would make sure that I'm already happy with the setup I currently have. You know what I mean?

Don't be in limbo. Yeah, and this would be like a nice addition to it, but I'm not worried about when it shows up. If you back it, it's refundable. It is. Forever? I don't know. Like the Tesla truck, like the Cybertruck?

Yeah. Because if you read the story the, like the Tesla truck, like the cyber truck. Yeah. Um, cause if you read the story, like what the CEO says, he's like, we've made every mistake there is to make, you know, they got a lot of experience from being one of the most notoriously hated. Are you going to again? Like, who knows? They said that what happened, they working with the same distributors. So they got a new, they got a new distributor and said that what happened before... Are they working with the same distributors? No, they got a new distributor. And they said what happened before was they had a flash sale, which generated a ton of orders. Those orders flagged their payment processor,

and so the payment processor froze everything, so they couldn't fulfill all the orders. And they had warned the processor that they were going to have big numbers, but I guess the processor didn't take them seriously. I can sympathize with that. Working with payment processors has been horrible. Terrible experience. They make so much money, and they just don't care about you at all.

Yeah. Yeah, it's not great. So, I mean, we haven't been frozen, but I've heard of many, many people who have had that issue, and you're kind of screwed. Yeah. It could happen again, though. Yeah.

Frozen 2. I was waiting for that. of screwed. Yeah. It could happen again, though. Yeah. Frozen 2. I was waiting for that. Oof. Yes. Yeah, so I don't know. I would have concerns, but... We're going to get it. We're going to review it.

How about that? Sure. New video coming out 2022. But, like... On our no longer new channel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. I think that would be the thing. It's like, I would look into it more,

make sure they had 100% deliverables, make sure they actually got everything out. If they did, I would make sure that my setup does not rely on this monitor. And then if I wanted, I'd go for it. It seems like the price is really good. Sounds like it'll be a really baller monitor. Should we do some super chats?

Yeah, let's do it. Super chats. You know what we need on this show is a soundboard. I love other shows that have, like HC has that. They have a soundboard. He can press a button and go, super chats, super chats. That'd be so fun. We had, for like one or two shows,

we had a mixer that had like a swear button. Ooh. That was kind of cool. Like it would bleep out your swears? Yeah. So if you want to swear... You hold the button down, swear, then let it back up. That's so fun.

Yeah. Make a doo-doo. Never mind. I don't know how to do this. I don't know where they are. Oh, can you just scroll through the chat? Viewer activity? Oh, it's viewer activity. Nevermind. I don't know how to do this. I don't know where they are. Oh, can you just scroll through the chat? Viewer activity?

Oh, it's viewer activity. Why is it viewer activity? Why don't they just call it chat? Oh, okay. Any gooders in there? There's not very many in general. I think it's because we haven't been reading them very much. They don't like us.

Yeah. All right, well. Machinist here, there's a formula to get the right cutting speed slash RPM for the material slash end mill sizes on a mill. I can what? How is this related? Did we talk about anything related to that?

Get the info from the guy anyway. You know, knowledge is power. I'll take it. None of this makes sense to me based on what we were talking about. I feel like this is from a different stream. One super chat just says, we want Apple. Another one just says,

big oof. Yeah, I don't know. Greetings from Spain, my boys. Cheers. Greetings to you, amigo. Hey guys, if a viewer skips an integrated sponsor spot or uses a browser extension like SponsorBlock,

never heard of that, be hurting a channel just as much as AdBlock, or is it impossible for a sponsor to know? I think that it's possible for us to know when we look at YouTube analytics, because you can see a graph of when people stop viewing and how they taper off. And sometimes you'll see a spike,

and that means that people repeat it. They watched it twice. They thought that joke or something was so funny that they'll go back and watch it again. Interesting. So you could see the viewers are here. Like 100% of the audience starts at the beginning. And then you get to the ad,

and then it drops off a bunch, and then it might pick back up after the ad. So we can that but it's whether or not um a youtuber exposes that to the sponsors that they work with and that would probably be inconsistent but unlikely probably they're not yeah they're not sharing that yeah so you're probably good but that could vary depending on the channel that you're following um linus isn't here to say no how about some straight up floatplane merch not this ltd slash floatplane synergy nonsense wow that's nonsensical i don't the the last the the ltd slash floatplane shirts actually apparently sold decently well i don't remember i think well i don't know if it was decently well or if it just exceeded expectations.

Because those are technically different things. But, I mean, maybe sometime. I find, I love the idea of LTT merch, and I love, or sorry, well I do. Flowplane merch. But Flowplane merch, and I love seeing it on people, but I'm also surprised that anyone cares. Come on. There's that. James, nice to see you hosting.

Thanks, man. You've got a string hanging off your left sleeve. No, I don't. Gone now. You know what you guys should have for float plane merch? Is bomber jackets. You know those like pilot bombers? Oh, my God. Like those leather jackets?

That would be sick. They're $500. Yeah, that'd be really expensive. They come with aviators in the pocket. The aviators have a tag floating on them. You can't remove it. It says Footplane. That's the logo.

Thank you guys for the super chats. A lot of these are very general, so I'm just skipping over them. One says, look at this plate. Look at this plate. That was actually pretty funny. I like that a lot. When is WANVOD coming to Flowplane? That's a feature that we will have.

It's not the highest current priority feature, but it is a feature that we will have eventually. Which is more Canadian, Corner Gas or Letterkenny? I haven't watched Letter Kenny very much. Corner Gas is very good, very Canadian. I can't speak to that. I feel like Corner Gas is probably slightly more realistic. Okay.

slightly more realistic. Okay. But Letterkenny is more entertaining, not unrealistic caricatures, I guess. Because everyone's very extreme in that show. Okay. Like you look at Stuart. Stuart!

Don't know these references. Oh, okay. You haven't watched Letterkenny? No. And a friend is close friends with one of the guys. I'm like, I had dinner with him once. And I'm like, oh, you're on a show? Cool, man.

Like, these girls came up and, like, suddenly were like, he was taking a picture of these strangers. And I was like, what's going on with that? And he's like, oh, he's on Letterkenny. And I was like, oh, okay. And I had no idea. So if you're a fan, I'm sorry. You should be sorry.

I should have got a selfie. They are national heroes. He's a nice guy. Basically. Great smile. Do you remember? Okay, hold on. This is important content.

What, you're trying to find out which one? Yeah. I don't know if I want to say. Do I? Yeah, sure. Who cares? This is only four. It was the blonde guy with big curly hair.

Maybe this good? Oh, yeah. He's awesome. Yeah. From Fort St. James. the blonde guy with big curly hair. Maybe this good? Oh, yeah. He's awesome. Yeah. From Fort St. James. I mean, they're all awesome, so it's not too surprising. But yeah, that's really cool. Middle of the province.

Anyways, they're both great. They're both unrealistic, but in different ways. But they're both very Canadian and awesome at heart. I don't want to pick one. I don't want to. Moving on. Where's Linus? I don't know, where is he?

He's in Miami. Partying in the city where the heat is on. The heat is on. Can we just end on a Will Smith reference? Yes, sing us out. All night on the beach to the break of dawn, welcome