The WAN Show - It's Coming For Us... - WAN Show June 17, 2022

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

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See app for details. How are you all doing, ladies and gentlemen? Welcome to the WAN Show. We got a bunch of great topics for you today. We got a bunch of great topics for you today. In internal news, there has been some development in the Lab 2 condition drama. We have actually been contacted

by the previous tenant slash owner, and I will be giving you guys an update on that. Some of it is promising. Some of it is extremely disappointing. And yes, you. I'm looking at you. We'll also be talking about the supposed... Actually, no.

Let's talk about this instead. Crypto winter is upon us. The crypto market cap has slumped under $1 trillion for the first time since January 2021. We're going to be talking about that. What else we got? Google engineer reports that AI is sentient and he was suspended for it. Are they covering something up?

Are they hiding the takeover? Or did they just breach their NDA? Or did they talk about things they weren't supposed to? Also, Amazon has an insanely high turnover rate. The percentages actually made me gasp and i'm not kidding let's talk about that it's amazing well let's roll that intro first shall we whoa what happened here what is going on wow your head is huge why are you gonna be like that why are you gonna be like that because you make me carry the couch every week We know my ego's out of control

Okay? You don't have to Wait, whoa, it's running again You know what? The The sponsors are there The show is brought to you by Alright, update on Lab 2 Here's the situation

We posted upset about some of the all the state of some of the things in the building um i went back and re-watched the video some of the things in the building were apparently our guys very small things we did not cut the safety railing uh like peeling those stickers but we never said in the video that that was the previous tenant the things that were the previous tenant were things like the replacement of the ceiling tiles, the removal of doorknobs, uh, cutting that safety railing up where the air compressor was.

Um, I, I don't know if I actually mentioned in the video, I forget now that the racking was not secured. It was not seismically sound. Yeah. Clearly it was not, it was not permitted properly.

Um, so we talked about that and some members of our community apparently took it upon themselves to go out of their way to find out who was in that building before us and send them harassing messages not rich guys what the that's not how you do it no that's not how you do it at all You may have noticed In the freaking video We blurred the signs We blurred signs

That had the previous tenants names on it Why? Because you guys Look I know most of you are chill And we're fine But there's Do you think You can be scary sometimes okay do you think you're helping yeah you know you're you're not a white knight at that point

you're like a you're a evil knight like honestly though it's not it's not helpful it's not constructive i don't know how to condemn this in strong enough language that it never happens again. Don't get involved. It's it's been bad. There's examples of when it's been bad. Yeah, well, for sure. So do not. And it's just it's utterly inappropriate.

Like, yes, I was I was frustrated. But like, how do I I don't know. I don't know how to see the thing is i don't know how to address this because it's one of those situations where i don't understand what the headspace is of the people that are seeing that video and going i need to go harass the employees of that previous building individual employees too so what do i what do i tell you do i tell you i don't need protection do i tell you do i lecture you about how cyber bullying is not okay do i point out that that employee more than likely had absolutely nothing to do with the decision making process that led to those things happening what do do i do i how do how do I tell you that you should never do that? Other than that, what I just did there, is that strong enough? Is that strong enough words? Are

we never going to have this problem again? I sincerely hope so. So I'm really frustrated. The good news is that we did hear from the previous tenant slash owner. It seems like they would really like to make things right. In which case I'm, you know, I'm, I'm happy to, I'll be happy to say that yes, everything is resolved. I don't, I don't know that that is how it will turn out, but I really, I hope so. Some things do seem to be kind of a miscommunication the agreement said that the stained ceiling tiles would be replaced there is a box of ceiling tiles on a mezzanine somewhere apparently i haven't seen them technically that is replaced um i pointed out that if i were selling a car and i noted that there were scratches on the bumper and it would be replaced I would think the buyer might expect to find that new bumper installed on the car

as opposed to in the trunk but I do see it both ways so we'll see I mean I yeah I mean I don't really to be completely honest because like you can take that bumper analogy so much further the the doors are all dented. The doors will be replaced. And then there's just like doors like strapped to the top of the car. Like that doesn't count. I don't know.

They should be replaced. It's a different thing. I mean, as I said, when we originally talked about this on the WAN show, the state of lower mainland real estate is such that you basically have not much in the way of recourse as a buyer yeah you either take it or you get nothing um i saw this i saw this hilarious post

on reddit where someone uh someone posted a a letter that they received from an investment company that wanted to buy their asset and they basically posted like a public reply to it saying this is not an asset this is my home yeah and also that was pretty fuck you you vampiric horrible people who are buying up all the homes as assets so that people don't have them yeah um and i was like bravo no this is my home and i intend to live in it like yeah good job um and that's the situation i mean it's it's honestly no different in commercials so so much of the commercial real estate here is just getting snapped up by investors. And there's just nothing you can do about it as a homeowner, as a business owner, as an owner-occupier is the term that we would use. So the units that we have here were purchased for $333,000 each. And that was for 2,000 square feet.

And when I say 2,000 square feet, I mean 2,000 square feet of plate, of actual concrete slab. Because 2,000 square feet of 1,000 foot slab and 1,000 feet of mezzanine is not the same thing because it doesn't have the same potential to be further built out. So when you run those numbers, calculator, what's that? Okay, so price per square foot. So $333,000 each divided by, there are about 2,000 square feet each for the units

that we bought initially. So that's $166 a square foot. Lower mainland commercial real estate pricing in the last six to seven years since we moved in here has gone to over $700 a square foot. We paid about $700 a square foot down the street. That is a quadrupling of pricing that is a quadrupling of pricing more than quadrupling of pricing it's absolutely nuts like we couldn't have afforded at the stage we

were at then to move into a space like this now it would have it would have stunted our growth honestly at this point i'd love to move out of vancouver but we have like i tried i know you you pushed for it you pushed for it luke that's all that's all i want here i don't need to dig it in i just i actually tried so hard you weren't wrong but i also think that this was this was all right. We did okay. Yeah. So the update on Lab 2 is that we are hoping to reach a peaceful resolution. Peaceful peaceable? Whatever. A happy resolution to that whole shenanigans.

It seems like they have at least started the conversation to try and get these things resolved in good faith. I'm really happy to hear that. Has there been any conversation about how they're going to fix the safety rails? But I want to point out that it was nothing to do with people brigading and harassing people. That is not why they reached out.

All that did was make this process more difficult and more stressful for everyone. You have not helped anything. Yeah. As for the safety railings, I mean, we're honestly at this point we're just doing everything through our realtor we'll let our realtor talk to your realtor because you know clearly it's easier to just let that happen yeah sure i'm not sure yeah what do you want to talk

about next uh should we talk about the google thing the amazon thing is like more fun yeah okay so funny amazon's turnover is so high that they're running out of people to hire they're running out of people to hire they're expending entire communities how does that even work how do you actually churn through employees so fast that literally an entire community of people is either already gainfully employed, works at Amazon, or previously worked at Amazon and is now gone for some reason or another. Oh man, the turnover rates are insane. We'll get to that in a moment though. There was a leaked memo from Amazon that claims they could run out of people to hire in their US warehouses by 2024.

And what I mean by that is all of them uh internal models expected that the phoenix arizona warehouses would run out by 2021 and the warehouses uh in inland empire uh 60 miles from la that would run out by end of year 2022 amazing the turnover rate is so high it's tracked internally on a weekly basis weekly three percent weekly or this is the one that really got me three percent weekly like that doesn't sink as hard wild that is insane that's like if we had one person going in and out the door every week but what about 150% a year? Wait, that would be...

No, wait, hold on, hold on. Hold on, let me think for a second. We have 80 people. So if we... Holy crap. That'd be like us losing two and a half people a week. What?

And then you have to hire new ones. 150% a year. So you're going through your entire team and a half. Every year. percent a year so you're going through your entire team and a half every year whoa like that's crazy wow um there's some discussion questions when amazon runs out of employees uh that want to work in the area will they start shipping them uh in from other areas or will they start housing workers as well? I could absolutely see that.

Yeah, why not? I mean, just start up Amazon Immigration Services. Smile. You know, Amazon Smile Immigration Services or whatever. Prime. Prime Immigration. And just put them in farms and call them dorms. That'll be good.

Yeah, I mean. Sell them Amazon food. Pay them in Amazon bucks america's done this before right yeah i think it was a long time ago yeah back in back in the early colonial times spin it back up let her rip out of context for those of you who don't pick up on verbal irony very well we are not seriously suggesting that that's horrible yes the It's satire. We are saying that because it should be so awful and unthinkable that nobody should take it seriously. I'm just spelling that out for you. Little reminder along with that to not harass employees of companies that we have trouble with.

Yeah, that's nuts. There really isn't a ton else on the topic and i don't really know what else to say it's just actually crazy i mean the only real solution to this this is this is this capitalism self-correcting finally is this it doing what it's supposed to do i wonder amazon runs out of people to hire and has to raise their wages like i wonder if to a certain degree they're because like it doesn't sound like there's a solution being proposed internally i'm wondering if they're trying to just like see if they can burn out until a point where they'll have robot replacements there's a lot of stuff it's a race against time it's really hard to replace people for you you can replace a lot of roles though there are a lot

of roles that you can replace certain things that are tough and you kind of need supervision from people yeah or not i mean not even just supervision from people you just need the the flexibility and the dexterity of people is just not there yet. And you think about, okay, if all I had to do, right? If all I had to do was manage like similar sized boxes, I could probably have a robot doing that today. But it's Amazon. They sell fricking everything.

You know, some items are shaped like this and some items are shaped like this, lttstore. know, some items are shaped like this and some items are shaped like this. LTTstore.com. Some items are shaped like this. And if you handle them wrong, they'll break. You have to have that human awareness. For now, yeah. Or you're going to lose more efficiency.

Man, this is another really funny thing I saw on Reddit. There's this robot that apparently exists only to find spills and then make noise so that a human will come clean it up and uh there's this amazing clip of it like knocking something over itself dragging it around while the people who are just like oh oh oh there's a point where robots just create extra work for people as opposed to actually saving them any work that's awesome yeah yeah yeah does that three percent turnover rate include their aws side no i believe this is just warehouses um i have heard very anecdotally based on basically nothing um that their software development side has a lot of turnover as well, because I've heard it's like hyper competitive.

And that makes sense. Very tough. But it's a different form of turnover that the warehouses would have. It would be hyper competitive. So it would be like burnout due to effort. Yeah, I could see that being very challenging. I mean, we already kind of see the effects of that i mean the number of people that come in and interview with you and say you know hey i'm i'm looking to kind of like

not deal with this crazy breakneck pace of of. 80 to 100 hour work weeks. These crazy number of hours. I mean, the really funny parts of those conversations are when they also say, because we actually do work, like just normal work hours at our companies. So the funny part is when they say, oh, by the way, this is what I was making at a Fang

and I want you to match it more like you want to work less than half as many hours and get the same pay it's like that well you let us know how that works out and wherever it is that you're gonna go try and pitch that you might find somewhere with some some hella vc money that might make that work but yeah we're not it i'm saying it chief like i mean yeah we we don't we don't claim to be everything to everyone but what we do try to do is achieve reasonable reasonable life balance and you know what it totally makes sense like i i could see myself telling my kids like hey yeah get some get some coding education get a couple projects under your belt go just you know trial by fire be be forged as a developer at at a fang like company and get out after a few years with basically your down payment taken care of and

like a super sick resume that you can take to basically whatever thing you decide you want to work on after that yeah it's not a bad path find something that you like actually want to work on i've also heard that the projects can be extremely soul-sucking. I mean, if I was at Google working on one of their 18 chat applications, how demoralizing would that be? Yeah. Well, this is all just going to get thrown in the garbage in a couple years. Yeah, I mean, I think the mobile games...

Time to go get drunk, guys. How do you even keep working on it? Something I've thought about for a long time, and I've talked to you about some of the mobile games development stories that I have from friends that work in that industry. But I find it very interesting that people in, say, our generation grew up playing the games that we grew up playing and decided that

because of those games they wanted to become developers so they could make more games right and then they ended up in the mobile games development industry and every single one of them that i've talked to that's in that industry isn't in that industry because they're making games that they like it's golden handcuffs they're making so much they like. It's golden handcuffs. They're making so much money that it's a really difficult internal logical argument to say like, I should go work on something else because you're like, well, I'm going to lose like half of my income

because I make incredible money from this like soul sucking parasitic industry that I guess I'll just stay here. But it's like, I don't know, man, it doesn't seem worth it to me, but it is worth it to some people. And some people have relatively big families and there's like, or, or relatively big, whatever type of financial commitments and for sure, they just have to do what they got to do. And the thing about financial commitments is as your means grow, you find ways to make more of them like my financial commitments are such that

if i don't make millions of dollars a year i will be ruined like i i actually just have mortgages that cost half a million dollars a year like just right there into the mortgage i i like internet internet bills that are on the tens of thousands of dollars a year. Like it's, and to be clear, I'm talking commercially, okay? Not personally. I was gonna prompt that in a second, but. Yeah, no, no, no.

My home internet's like a hundred bucks a month. Yeah. And so I can see how it's really easy to fall into that trap where you go okay if i'm making less than 250 000 a year as a mobile game developer or whatever i can't survive because i've gone and i've i've i've adopted a lifestyle that necessitates that kind of of income and that can look like a lot of different things. It can look like, you know,

houses, cars, sugar babies. I don't know what, what costs money. Oh, geez. Medical bills in certain countries.

Like what does a sugar baby cost? I don't know. Asking for a friend. I have no idea. And like, just in case there's anyone in mobile game development industry that's watching that is feeling highly offended um i'm not judging these are just stories from people that i know that are in that industry that feel that way

no and there's mobile games that are that are not gonna be soul-sucking there's 100 percent they're like i mean uh what what was that one that man what was that one that i really want to play when once it's finally not Apple Arcade exclusive? It was the Final Fantasy... Yeah, I'm not going to remember the name of it, but I know what you're talking about. Can't remember, but it looks absolutely amazing, and I can't wait to play it once it's on a platform

where I know I'm going to be able to put my save game somewhere that I will actually still have it at some point. Yeah. Let's see, what are people talking about? Diablo Immortalablo immortal no that's not the one that's that's not it i don't think my thing's catching on i knew it wouldn't but which thing getting people to say if they're making like a stupid purchase getting people to say i'm gonna diablo immortal it or i'm gonna di it no that's not gonna catch on be so great

fantasia that's the one thank you i do enjoy people that have done the play on words of calling it Diablo immoral. It's pretty good. I mean, okay. If you know that you are preying on people's addictive personalities, there's an argument to be made for immoral in that particular one. What's not immoral is telling you about our sponsors. I got to get this out of the way quick today

because I've got the writing team. Speaking of things we try to do to make working here about more than just money, we're all getting together. We're hanging out tonight and we're going to play some Takelings house party.

Oh, that's cool. It is so freaking fun. Also, i joined the discord and i got in touch with the dev i was wrong i was wrong there is still active development oh it's just that it's just one guy that makes sense so he's got a content pack coming sometime in the next few weeks that's like three more levels and i was like sweet dude i don't want to tell you how to run your jam over there but like just release one at a time it's a lot better to release one at a time once every nine months than have literally nothing in your dev blog for like three years and then drop a huge content update yeah come on that is cool though that. If you haven't tried it yet, Take Link's House Party is legitimately

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It just doesn't matter. Yeah, it's just funny. It's hilarious. My kids absolutely love it. Yeah, very cool. You only need one headset it. It just doesn't matter. Yeah, it's just funny. Hilarious. My kids absolutely love it. Yeah, very cool. You only need one headset as well, just in case you're wondering. One headset and like a TV or a large monitor or something.

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Should we talk about the Google AI thing? I want to talk about crypto winter is upon us let's do it i have spent an embarrassing amount of time doom scrolling uh crypto crash like hashtag crypto crash memes and to be clear to be clear i am not uh i i'm not enjoying other people losing money uh i've i've lost money on investments including crypto in the past to be clear i hold i hold nothing today except some my meme stocks and um not even all of those i think yvonne sold them or something i don't know the point is i i'm out i think i have no idea what for how what for um so i but not all of them them i don't know i basically i don't have the

investment account anymore i was gonna say it doesn't really manage long story um but framework so i have my framework investment and then i have whatever crypto i have from mining on the land center gpus and then i think we were running the editing machines after hours for a while but then the editors complained because, like, NiceHash caused, like, kind of weirdness on their systems or something, so I don't think it's on there anymore. I don't know. Anyway, so I'm trying to disclose everything.

I'm trying to be extremely thorough. So I've experienced it. I have lost money. I'm not saying that's a good feeling or that I would wish it on anyone, but they're just so funny. I saw this one where someone had green and red peppers and laid them out on their countertop to show the gains and losses chart and mirrored the real one for Bitcoin. That's hilarious. That's so random.

When you buy the dip and it keeps on dipping like just ah i don't know because that community is so meme-y whether crypto is going like this or like this they're memeing right it's gonna be there's gonna be jokes there's gonna be memes yeah i just i i love it i love it oh i guess we should talk about it Bitcoin has fallen to roughly 20k USD, not seen since December 2020. Ethereum has fallen to roughly 1k USD, not seen since January 2021 slash December 2020. And the global crypto market cap is currently at $893 billion at time of writing, which means it's probably changed, given how rapidly it's been changing over the last little while uh ethereum mining is no longer profitable for many miners um and and to be fair this is a

big massive monumental crash that is causing huge problems and companies to fold and all this other kind of stuff but people are losing their jobs which is yes which is always lots of always not cool um to be fair other developers they'll find other jobs um uh but it is not the it is it's true um wow you are so you are so bitter right now he spent the entire week doing interviews this week. Can you tell he's a little mad? It is true. There's so much demand for developers. I think that's like... I think that's understated sometimes.

But if your job sucks, if you like hate your job and development, just like look for another one. There's probably lots out there. Like it's actually crazy. I, I, it is not uncommon for me to be interviewing someone and they'll be like, just to let you know for transparency, uh, I'm currently in talks with like five other companies. I have job offers from three. Uh, so just, what's your timeline?

Cause like, I'm going to accept one of these. And it's like, okay, that's cool. Why not, right? They probably should. I'm not going to hold it against them. But there are people out there that are hiring lots of developers. So I genuinely think they will land on their feet. So I'm not as worried about that.

I'm not trying to be negative. I think they will land on their feet so i'm not as worried about that like it's i'm not trying to be like negative i think they will be okay so dread over on twitch says as a software dev i agree with luke lol yeah like it's they will actually probably be okay um so it's it's not like that huge of a deal uh so what i was saying before that though was like there has been times in the past where ethereum has not been profitable to mine um people just kept mining it there is a quote here which i think is kind of interesting which is at this point you are better off to just buy ethereum rather than run your cards um if you were trying to buy the dip i'm not suggesting that i'm just saying this is not financial advice not at all we are not either financial advisors or crypto bros yeah no

um i just think i know the people in the crypto space that have been in the crypto space for like a really long time have weathered some crazy storms oh yeah they've seen it worse than this yeah so like the the like real like super og crypto people you know what it probably kind of sucks right now whatever whichever winklevoss twin is like a crypto billionaire or whatever gonna be all right yeah yeah it's gonna be okay um so with that said yes are you buying the dip no no i'm out i've been out for a while i on, uh, I think I've talked about this story on WAN before. I'm not sure. So I, I was, uh, I was in a little bit a long time ago. Um, and I had ordered some hardware wallets and they had come in, but it was like, they had come in the same week this event happened and I hadn't had time to like migrate things over to them yet so i had all my crypto in a platform called quadriga cx and now it's all gone if you want to look into that it's actually a very interesting story there's some like possibly the owner of it faked his own death

and all this crazy stuff uh but it's gone so once that happened uh i was like man i can't believe this happened and a bunch of people in the crypto space pointed at me and just said i was like an idiot for having an exchange and i was like you know what i'm just not gonna do this anymore i'm done i'm out have a good one so yeah that's it for me and honestly they weren't even like entirely wrong i should have set up those wallets earlier. I should have migrated things to them earlier. I should not have trusted the platform. Yep. But I just, I was like.

I mean, we knew the platforms were shady AF. Yeah. So like, you know what? Yes. Okay. I just don't have the time. I got other things going on. It's like, it's a big time investment to properly be involved with this stuff.

Yeah. That's the thing is like, on the one hand, it's like passive income bro you just run your cards bro but on the other hand if you want to actually know be dialed into what's going on in that space it moves fast capitalizing on the next big grift you've got to be you've got to be right at the beginning of that, of that parabolic upswing, right? Like you can't, if you catch the peak, well, guess what?

You were the bigger fool, right? So it's, yeah. So it's, it's tough. Yeah. It takes a lot.

It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of energy. It's really against people who have inside information that you don't have. like, uh, what's, what's their, what's their face?

Like ant miner, for example, apparently they will mine on whatever their new hardware is yeah for a very long time and then literally release that new miner once their next one is like ready to go so that they are always way ahead in terms of mining efficiency and so they're literally just like selling used hardware that they already abused it's like oh okay now be clear, this is all allegedly. I don't know this for sure. Yeah.

So blah, blah, whatever. I've heard it from a few pretty good sources. I've heard it from some people who probably know. Yeah. But it's still allegedly. It's still allegedly. Yep. It's still allegedly.

Yep. But there's been some good sides for people that aren't uh deeply in crypto uh graphics cards have like really sprung back not only are we at msrp but there's a lot of options that are below smrp smrp msrp uh the used market is feeling i wouldn't necessarily say completely vibrant yet but like if we were going to it would not have been a good idea for a long time and now might actually be a solid idea yeah apparently there's uh 30 80s on ebay as low as 575 bucks wow that's like actually crazy personal anecdote from uh nicholas plouffe who prepared this one i walked into langley memex on Sunday and saw tons of cards. Apparently they've had

stock for about two months. A buddy of mine who's building a new computer messaged me being like, hey, should I get this card? It's like discounted. And I was like, what? What are you talking about? And I thought, oh, he must be

crazy. So I opened the link and I was like, they're all discounted. That's insane'm so happy i'm happy to have stuff to make videos about again i'm happy people are going to actually be able to build computers this has been stupid it's it's been nice like kind of you know dropping the race flag for a bunch of friends that have been like should i build a computer for the last like few years and be like no no no hold off hold off then i'm like go go, go, go, go. Yeah, go. It's go time.

Man, there's so much great hardware out there right now. You've got AM5 coming. You've got Alder Lake here now with potential upgrades to Rocket Lake, which is looking really promising. The CPU space has been... CPUs have been great for a bit. And then on the GPU side, you've got well i don't know how

to feel about i don't know how to feel about intel art graphics at this point apparently they're launching china only which is never a good sign that always means that you are either a can't produce enough for a global launch or b want to just focus on a market where you can move all your inventory through oems rather than have to actually compete in the open market on its own merit so we'll interesting interesting how it goes that's an interesting idea scrapyard wars but with new hires so like we remote control we remote control our people because that like put like a bug in their ear i actually probably wouldn't have a problem anymore but you're like just screwed everyone's gonna know who you are center i can't go freaking anywhere

yeah i went out with yvonne we went like we went to do uh like a glass blowing class got some fast food and did something else and i literally got recognized at all three of those places and the funny thing about it is that i i'm not famous really i know the two things i just said sound highly contradictory but you got to understand the difference between being famous if you are if you're taylor swift no matter where you go you are going to get absolutely mobbed right whereas for me the issue is that i happen to run into like young dudes in all of those places so with that demographic like very well known yeah the odds of the like the odds of me getting recognized at a badminton club. Also, you're in your area.

So it's not weird for someone to spot you here. No, that doesn't really matter. I could be in Malaysia for all it matters. The demo is the demo. It just is what it is. Whereas if I'm on a construction site, which I've been living on for quite a while now, if I'm on a construction site, which I've been living on for quite a while now, if I'm on a construction site,

the odds of like a, like someone who's like a, like a pool contractor knowing Linus tech tips much lower. And then if I go and hang out at like a, a crafting center, like a crafting club, literally 0% chance I walk in, I am the most anonymous nobody nobody i might as well have a

gee fox mask on i am anonymous i am no one so it's it's just it's a it's a funny thing i i don't know uh i think that's pretty much it for this topic There was There's the big layoffs that we did mention There's more details on that Coinbase laid off 18% of their staff Which is

1100 people I think What? Coinbase Had Sorry Coinbase had over 6,000 employees. What were they doing all day? They're a huge company. What do you mean?

Yeah, but they need 6,000 people? I guess that's a good point. Apparently, they didn't. When I said my thing... So there's that uh well i think that's mostly because they're they're saying it's because they like grew too quickly and stuff it's probably mostly because the crypto crash i don't know i could be wrong um but when i read that number i um i uh automatically assumed uh developers but it

might not be because they're like an exchange right this could be business people account and stuff like that this could be all over the board i guess if you're all over the world you'll need a ton of accounting too man international commerce is a nightmare and it's probably even a little bit more crazy when you're converting crypto and stuff still six thousand people a lot of people that's mind-blowing yeah cavalry connect over on floatplane says yo linus i wore your shirts in the oil patch everyone knows who you are okay well that's a high-tech industry you might not think about it that way but like gas oil and gas exploration super high-tech industry so it depends i might actually expect that as well but if i were to go

uh okay at least up here popular popular with the young adults yes whereas like the every any roofer that i've ever run into is like oh yeah so what do you do like i'm youtuber like oh yeah cool i like youtube okay yeah fair enough like it's just it's different it's just it's hard to i don't know where i encounter it probably most is the parents of like my kids friends really yeah because interesting there are pretty much two like tracks right there's people for whom technology and the internet is a huge part of their personal culture and then there's people for whom technology and the internet is a huge part of their personal culture and then there's people like the guy i bought a used clarinet from on facebook marketplace last night who whose entire life is like skateboarding around and like busking on in parks and hanging out with friends.

And I was like, yeah, man, yeah, cool. I hope you enjoy the clarinet. I'm like, yeah, okay. And then some guy walks past in the lobby of the building where he lives, and it's like, it's just one of those things where if you're a real celebrity, people will know your name regardless of whether they follow that space or not. But internet celebrity is like this, it's like this C tier, D tier.

I don't think that's necessarily true. To be completely honest, I would not recognize Taylor Swift. Yeah, but you know who she is. I know her name. Yeah, whereas if you don't, if you're not dialed into the technology space, you would not know my name.

Yeah, fair enough. It's just different. It's just super different. I do think it's different, but I don't think the mark is that everyone would recognize you. You know what I mean? There's a lot of celebrities that I don't really know because I've never cared about that space.

There's a fair amount of people that I might recognize their face because they're in some movie that I like, but I have no idea what their name is. Yeah, I don't know. some like movie that i like but i have no idea what their name is uh yeah i don't know so the discussion here is scalping prices are gone but will the 40 and 7000 series continue to drive our expected prices for gpus i suspect so up and i think they will i think that nvidia and amd i think nvidia in particular is kicking themselves over the introductory pricing of the 3000 series. I think that the crypto MSRP increases were an opportunity for them to right this wrong for their shareholders.

And I think that as we see 4000 series introduced, they're going to be willing to take the pain that comes with the jump in 4000 series over 3000 series launch MSRPs. I think they'll hide behind. Well, compared to where 3000 series ended up, this is very reasonable. And I think, yeah, they will continue to try to drive, especially at the high end halo halo tier product pricing up because the funny thing about it is that i'm gonna blow your mind right now and sound super out of touch but it's the truth gpu pricing even at the high dollars is not that much yeah it is hold on let me let me explain okay have you ever gone back and looked at like london drugs or circuit city flyers okay yes i'm not done is not fair and you know it from the late 90s okay great okay nice where a complete

setup and we're not even talking something that might be suitable for gaming this might not even have a 3d accelerator in it okay a complete setup is going to cost you three four five six thousand dollars yep now you account for inflation then it's like way more if a if a like personal computer cost four thousand dollars today that wouldn't even be that ridiculous now obviously we had a period in between where we enjoyed extremely low prices yeah where top tier gpus were 500 bucks and the rest of the system it went in could be had for 500 bucks and that was a pretty that was a pretty good time the sub 1000 like high-end gaming pc was a cool man the early 2000s was a wild ride wasn't it yeah like our like mid 2000s

i guess the mid 2000s was when we really peaked before ati amd and nvidia figured out we can charge a thousand dollars for just this like gaming thing yeah yeah but in the if we look at the entire timeline that's not how anything works i don't know why you're making this argument that's how lots of things work no it's not avocados work yeah but avocados are not cheap use and you know that cost of technology goes down over time that's just how it works it's not going to work that way anymore that's the thing

I mean Apple's M2 is not even on a whole new process node it costs so many billions of dollars to keep having transistors shrink it's not going to keep up anymore I think we might start running into different types of computing though people are like bad take linus i mean okay can i can i do this again do i have to do this again guys obviously i'm having a little fun with him right now

obviously okay let us do our thing we're okay you don't have to come to linus's defense every time he's he's a you time He's a grown man He can take care of himself They're not coming to my defense they're telling me it's a bad take Look the point Is Yeah margins have clearly gone up in that industry But also investment

Into new technology in that industry has gone up And I don't think We're not going to be able to take for granted That technology price go down I'm pretty sure margins have gone up more than investment Has gone up yeah and i don't think we're gonna we're not gonna be able to take for granted that technology price go down i'm pretty sure margins have gone up more than investment has gone up um i mean over the like since the pandemic with the inflation yeah yes but in the couple of years prior to that i actually don't know we should we should everyone should start referring to inflation in quotations that That would actually be fantastic. NVIDIA's margins have gone up consistently, but a lot of that is shifting from gaming

into new segments like AI, HPC, data center, right? That's not from them actually just making way more money on gaming cards. Yeah. But also their reinvestment has gone heavily into those sections. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So I don't know. So their reinvestment has gone heavily into those sections. Yeah, that's true. I don't know.

But yeah, I think we'll eventually start hitting different types of computing. Like we've been sort of talking about for a long time. But it's still going to take quite a while. I think people have been thinking that those alternative forms of computing are like, Oh, they're like two years away. And it's like, no, they're probably closer to like 20. But yeah, it is what it is. I think it's time for us to do some merch messages. You guys may or may not have noticed,

but we just pushed a big, big launch on LTT Store. Is it out of season? Yes. But does it look amazing? I mean, look. It's always in season if you're inside with the AC on, okay? It makes Colton look good. Whoa.

This is the short circuit hoodie. It's basically the same hoodie as the WAN hoodie. Colton's an attractor. But with this sick short circuit colorway. Hey, did we just reveal a new employee? This is Natalie from the Creator Warehouse team. I guess you guys are meeting her for the first time. We've got Riley looking a little sus.

Looking a little sus, Riley. Showing off all the zippers. Got the phone pocket. There's James modeling. I like this. That's a good pose. That's fun. Yes, we know that half the pockets

are not that useful or easy to use. But they're just cool. Don't care. They're just awesome. We just love pockets and love zippers. What are you going to do about it? Keep a flash drive with three different OS installations on it and keep it in a random arm pocket and whenever the time comes

it'll be awesome. That's all I have to say. So excited to launch this product for so long. Guys, it looks so freaking good. I really, I really liked the colors. You know what? You know what we didn't show very well in the, in the imagery.

I don't think I saw anyone wearing the hood. The purple? Yeah. The sick purple lining on the hood. Yeah. It's awesome. I think it's cool. the hood it's awesome I think it's cool just when it's resting on your shoulders little accents and stuff I like the colors

WAN hoodie and this one because the underlying garment is the same they're extremely technical garments it took a really long time for us to get them produced and the delay on this one was that we wanted to get the gradient printing perfect. Yeah, and it's great. So like, honestly, that was probably worth it because this one pops really nicely.

You should have seen the early samples. Man, we could do the gradient printing here in Canada perfectly. But the garment production was like, I don't know, you want to spend $300 on a hoodie? Okay. Or we could do the garment production overseas, but the gradient printing looked awful. So it was like, well, we've got half of a solution either way.

I guess we're boned. And you might think, well, why don't you just produce them over there and print them here? Well, the problem is that because the panels are pre-printed and then sewn, that's how you get that super, super seamless look. Like here on the shoulder as well. You can't do that. You have to print it, assemble it gotcha yeah so and that's a lot of shipping freaking love it love it bite pond says love the processor hoodie the

french terry is awesome now there's a short circuit one a similar colorway it looks awesome and it's the same material yeah a very similar material i don't know that it's exactly the same material don't don't quote me on that. Also, there's an upgrade update on screwdriver shafts. Yes. Apparently, we're going to sell both black and silver. Yes. Black shafts will be a limited run.

I can give you guys the full kind of... Actually, I think... Did Nick do another... Did Nick do a newsletter today? I can check. I hope it's sent to this email. I hope it's sent to this email. I think it's sent to this email. I will check. I got in trouble for being logged into my proper email last week

because I... Yeah, something bad happened. I don't see anything on this one. I don't see anything either. So I'll just... Nick sent me a draft of it. So I'm just going to get that for you guys. Cool. Okay. anything either so i'll just nick sent me a draft of it so i'm just gonna get that for you guys cool okay before we jump into today's topic he wrote i want to quickly follow up on last week's hotly debated screwdriver color conversation that ended in like almost exactly 50 50 some of y'all

got where we were coming from but a lot of people were even if they understood pretty upset by the last minute design change felt kind of rug pulled, bait and switched, however you want to phrase it. This is one of the reasons why we didn't do pre-orders. Yes, because we didn't want you guys to get surprised having already paid money by a last minute change. Yeah. However, even though we think the silver shaft

is the right decision for the long-term enjoyment of the product we understand that some of you do not agree and for those of you who do not agree we've decided that we are going to offer both versions man there's so many it was really frustrating seeing a lot of the comments around this some people i think really got it and other people like i don't know if it's like a tinfoil hat thing or whatever else. People were speculating that we were trying to save a buck. It's not about that at all. I was the one who pushed for a black shaft. We tried so many different ways to get the black shaft to work and it was like they all have the same fundamental issue. We want a stainless steel shaft because it's super strong. We want this thing to last a

lifetime. And that is the way to do that. And stainless steel, whether you're talking Cerakote, whether you're talking dark nickel plating, no matter what it is, you get into like really exotic ways of turning it black. At the end of the day day they're all deposition they're all a surface layer on top of it and they will eventually chip so it's always going to be the same problem which is why we settled on the silver shaft with that said at launch we are going to offer people the ability to back order a black shaft version of either the all black or the black and orange colorway and then we will just discontinue it at some point and then the silver one will be the one that continues long term so whatever whatever reason you have for wanting a black

one whether you just want it as like a limited edition item and you won't use it or whether you like that wear that worn out look we will we will get you guys taken care of all right uh silver fours are faster says cerakote is stupid tough though it takes a legit beating i'm right it has its own issues though it's not great with skin oils um and it will eventually chip because what the thing about that dark if it's not great with skin oils um and it will eventually chip because what the thing about that dark if it's not great with skin oils a lot of people are going to want to turn by the shaft yeah well it's designed for that a dark nickel plating is really tough too like that's a freaking awesome coating we were really happy with the toughness until i actually used the thing for three months or six months i had one of them actually started and

they just it's not that it's like it breaks down it's that there's certain wear points that get hit a lot okay yeah like particularly if you're building computers you're like digging in through a heat sink or something and there's a spot that's literally got a heat sink fin right next to it as you are turning the driver that's's going to destroy any finish. So we're going to get you. Don't forget to season your screwdriver, says Technetium. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Is the silver also nickel-plated? No, it is raw stainless steel. So my expectation is that it will look pretty much like it does on day one on day 100 and on day 1000 silver only in the pop-up it'll be silver only at the pop-up shop yeah i don't think we'll have any black screwdrivers there oh i have some exciting news about the pop-up shop though confirmed we are going to have we weren't able to get a ton of them 300 units of backpack nice nice we're getting the like top of production backpacks air shipped it's costing 56 a unit to airship them oh geez

that's that's the yikes do you have a rough uh do you have a rough timeline for the pop-up shop yeah i do actually i and how are you gonna um how are you gonna control attendance i don't know oh one of the ways we're going to control attendance is we are only going to announce the final date at the last minute we don't like local people we do not want people traveling around the world for this like i'm sorry but we cannot have 5 000 people show up that would be a huge problem it would be uh so where we're planning on having it like that just doesn't work yeah i'm i'm i'm yeah we'll we're just gonna yeah we'll do it a last minute announcement uh do not travel for this uh we're working on uh trying to figure out how to do

tickets for the land so people can like pick seating and stuff like that oh okay that would be cool yeah i don't actually see the dates for the pop-up shop, but it will be, if you were to buy a backpack at the pop-up shop, you would have it for back to school. Okay. Yeah. I can say that much. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Merch messages? Oh, yeah. We should definitely do some merch messages because we've got a lot of them this week. My goodness, you guys are into this short circuit hoodie. Tommy says, oh, sorry, Bell, that's your job. Union grievance. Oh, My goodness. You guys are into this short circuit hoodie. Tommy says,

Oh, sorry, bell. That's your job. Union grievance. Oh my goodness. Tommy says for Luke, any tips on how to find the Linus in your life,

both in mentorship and friendship sense. Okay. We're going to Luke cam for this. I'll see you later. Probably don't take the route that I did. Okay. Care to explain? Because I highly recommend not doing that to me.

I mean, I, like, lied on my resume. And then we had, like, a... How long was our interview? I don't know. Like, hours. Yeah, we... Like, many hours. I think we stayed, like like after the office was closed yeah

you had to drive me home because the buses stopped our interview was like legitimately like i think like six hours or something and i brought like a super nintendo and he was late because he's late to everything so when our us first meeting i i think it was like half an hour late or something and i'm in school at this time and'm like, I was at the top of some of my classes. But I was like pretty high end in general. So I like wasn't thinking I was actually going to get the job. So I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to study. Because like I need to keep my school stuff going.

So by the time he comes down, I have like papers all over the place. And my laptop's out and I'm working and stuff. It was honestly very unprofessional. Yeah, I don't know uh i think if you can afford to try to take some chances when you have less responsibilities. Yeah. It's dangerous advice. So I feel. It's tough. Worried. I feel the same way when I talk about,

you know, something like Yvonne, like how do you find the Yvonne in your life? And it's like, I don't know, get really lucky. Yeah. Yeah.

Like I try, I tried things that were non-conventional before i tried working with you on youtube videos like i had done other like weird odd things to try to see if i could find success i don't know if i've ever sought out friends to be fair we didn't meet by seeking out friends yeah but that's the thing is like, I think, but I think that was the question, right? Like, how do you find, oh, I guess there was the mentorship angle. Mentorship thing.

And that could be a professional thing. I mean, they asked you, but I would say being open to mentorship is a huge part of finding mentors. I found great mentors. That's fair, yeah. And you won't, they won't keep you around if you don't listen and adapt and and change and and

seek to better yourself they can't they can't change you you have to want to change so that's something alex steel actually has a a take on that that i think is pretty good yeah which is that you have to be worth their time so if you if you want to like if you want a mentor in a field be worth their time um so like find a way to be valuable to them uh and then if if i mean if they're like a good person that will be rewarded right that actually reminds me uh my badminton coach right now um is like one of those people where i work really really hard because he could just not yeah and he could get paid by someone who has a chance to you know represent uh you know us at nationals and or like internationally he could just like train them instead. And I'm just like some over the hill, like tech guy who just wants to get better at the game.

Um, like, yes, I, you know, I'm paying, obviously he's not cheap, but he doesn't have to train me. Someone else would pay. And so I work my ass off in training. Like I go hard. I honestly, I end up with my brain as tired as my body at the end of a two hour session because I'm just trying not to do anything wrong. Yeah. Um, I, I used to, I used to edit videos in class and I would have to walk between classes

with my laptop open in my hand because if it was close, like I could close with screen on whatever, but it would like get too hot. So like literally just having the screen away from the laptop would help it because it was like such a struggle. I mean, we've told stories about how little sleep I used to get. Yeah. I wouldn't say abuse your body the way that. Yeah.

I probably went a little hard. But you do that. You probably. It's kind of your charm. But, but yeah, you don't have to go that far but but yeah try to be worth their time um and and you can do that in a variety of ways you can do

that the way linus is doing with the badminton coach of just like making it very clear that your effort level is extremely high so that they feel like their investment in you is worth something. Yeah, because good teachers don't teach for money. Good teachers love to teach and love that they can make money and live comfortably by doing what they're passionate about. It's like, it's that whole thing. Find a job you love

and never work another day in your life or whatever. It's not rewarding to teach someone who's just not paying attention or caring. No, it's so demoralizing. Yeah. Absolutely demoralizing. So care a lot, try really hard and understand that things might be uncomfortable

or not like the absolute most beneficial, but make sure that you're choosing the right person so that it will be beneficial eventually, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Okay okay hold on people are people are taking exception with my whole uh being over the hill from a professional athletic standpoint yeah 35 is pretty over the hill over the hill is relative like esports you hit 25 what are you doing what are you doing here old man old man? Like, your reflexes are just not as good.

What is it the... I surprised someone with this the other day. What age does your reaction time slow down? 24. Yeah. Yep. Sorry. Every day, I get slower and dumber. I feel in fps weaker and i know i had this conversation

recently i know i don't play fps games as much as i used to stuff like that like that's definitely part of it but i i can feel it i can't twitch like i used to be able to like i i just it's just it just doesn't happen as fast like it's not it's not that i don't play the games as much i just it's just the the connection is just not as good as it used to be it just isn't uh and that's i mean that's fine but like i'm not gonna be able to be as good as i used to be which kind of sucks but it is what it is like it's it's fine you'll probably still do okay at the land you can carry me okay okay uh oh uh joe's probably gonna come up nice so he can maybe carry both that's gonna be awesome yeah joe could joe can hard carry next questions from samir what changes other than more creators are you planning for the next ltx with it being the first one back after so long definitely we want a lot more cool technology for people to check out.

So not just sponsor booths where they're showing like their new thing they launched or whatever. We want everything to be super interactive. We did an okay job of that one at the last time at the last one, but I think we can do better. And one of the other big ones is that whether it's through volunteers or whether it's through hires we want to make sure that the LMG personalities that you guys want to interact with are not bogged down running booths we want there to be way more interaction with creators at the show nice cool from Connor for Luke what's been the hardest challenge uh tech challenge you faced building

floatplane tech challenge um what tech challenge have you not faced building floatplane that might be an easier question to answer there's been a lot um we made a framework choice early on um that honestly at the time with the information that we had, uh, like if I, if I could, it's hard, but if I could put myself back in those shoes and if I could look at the resources that we had at that time, it seemed like a pretty solid idea. Um, but it like fairly quickly became effectively abandoned wear and it was a, it was a framework that we were sitting on. So that has been quite the pain um that has been rough sales sales yeah that that that's probably been the the i know that's maybe not what you're looking for but yeah selecting the the wrong framework i guess um has been has been and was and will be very painful.

But we're dealing with it. It's fine. From Matthew, also for Luke, where did you want LTT to move originally? Kamloops, BC Interior, somewhere in Alberta? Taiwan. Yeah, it was a bit of a long shot. I also had suggested other places,

but Taiwan was it, really. It's a tech center. The cost of living ratio, we've always had this thing where a lot of the income for Linus Media Group was USD. So the conversion into NTD would have been very beneficial for us. It would have been very... I could have paid you guys pauper wages and you could have lived like kings. Yeah. It looked pretty good from the business side.

But it's also across the world and you were having kids. I get it. I understand why it was difficult. It's just that there was a lot of variables at the time that were like, whoa, this could be like really positive. It's, there's people in chat going like, whoa, sales. Yeah. At the time it looked really cool. Okay.

It just got abandoned. It could have been cool if they kept working on it. Anyways, but yeah, Taiwan was the big one that I really wanted to push for. When that fell through, I think at one point in time, I was just like, please, anywhere else in Canada. Because especially when we started hiring developers, it's like, oh man.

I was super into Vancouver, Washington. Just because it's like, no income tax because washington state and you can cross border shop in oregon for no sales tax man again like living like kings would have been kind of amazing but vancouver is also pretty sick. Vancouver has benefits. It's pretty nice that like, if I feel like snowboarding, I can literally go snowboarding in the middle of the week after work and be home for like a late dinner and wake up refreshed in the morning.

Like that's actually crazy that that's even possible. And there's like, yeah, Vancouver is a cool place. It's just really, really expensive. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaking of expensive, from Alan, for your home theater, Linus, if you didn't go with SVS for your main setup, were there any other speakers or tech that you were interested in checking out? It's a space that I honestly just haven't followed that closely because it's been, I've spent my entire life with it either out of my price range or irrelevant because i have absolutely nowhere to put a product like that it's also like it's a space that honestly so much stake oil and like not everyone's really even invited yeah you know what i mean yep i do know what you mean like if you're not big mega baller,

they don't care. Yeah. At all. And they're, they're not even advertising to you. Like you, you might not even know what it is. You possibly never even heard of it. It's,

it's, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I know, I know Kef. I, I used to have just some,

some like a Kef 5.1 satellite set setup and then like an avr receiver hooked up to my computer like way back before that was cool um i was really happy with those i like the sound signature but i haven't looked at their products in 15 years or 12 years or whatever that works out too so i just i don't know i i i went with svs based on, I think it was James's recommendation and it sounds great. We haven't even treated the room properly yet and it sounds great. From Isaac, question for both of you.

What's a video you're most proud of? Oh. Hmm. I don't know, man. That's a a tough every time someone asks me what's the video your most X to go through a backlog of like 10,000 videos yeah it's yeah a lot of work I feel like no matter what I say I'm gonna give you the wrong answer so why don't I just pick something recent um it was it was really exciting for me to be one of the few people ever invited to film inside an intel fab um and to to do the same thing at an ibm development lab like a month apart

it's just those are really cool yeah those yeah those are really that's like uh that that's like because you know there's tons of haters that are like, oh, hashtag lie-ness, you know, he's just a YouTuber, you know, whatever else, right? And I'll question it. who have worked in the fab silo at Intel for over a decade, watch these videos and go like, yeah, no one else has really captured what goes into this like this before. And I go like, oh yeah, no,

I'm actually really good at this. Like I know I don't have the deepest knowledge of everything, but what I feel like if i had a superpower i feel like my superpower is knowing enough to ask the right questions because you know i see what i do in a in a video like that as really easy because all i do is listen i just listen and i type really fast so i just listen and i transcribe and then i filter out stuff that's boring and i leave in the interesting stuff and i reorder it and then i

put on my presenter voice and i get all enthusiastic because i am yeah and that's it it's a lot easier when you genuinely are that's a video right and what i what i was trying to figure out is like well why can't just why can't any reporter just just do that and i think the answer is because they don't ask the right questions they don't know who the right people to talk to are yeah and they don't listen i've had a a lot of comments in flowplane chat that have mentioned a lot of videos that i i think could be fantastic contenders for me i've also had a lot of videos that i i think could be fantastic contenders for me i've also had a lot of people that have posted things like pizza warmer which is definitely not it uh that moment when you completely misunderstood the concept of the video

um someone brought up scrapyard wars 4 that was like that's probably is that the flaming one yeah that was really cool like i actually really really enjoyed making that with with rod that was that was quite the positive experience i also really liked my uh wtf is going on with those like few videos that i did in that strain that was probably not at the right time and it probably took too much work it was really funny oh that kickfarted yeah kickfarted was cool uh there just wasn't really enough stuff to like cover that was actually good to cover but yeah Neptune Pine kickfarted was really fantastic yeah but you're asking for stuff that is not good enough to be good and not bad enough to not ship. So it's this really narrow slice.

You got your Neptune Pine. You got your Jibo. You kind of genuinely run out like on a hand or two. Like there's really not that many items. Fallout Bomb PC, I wouldn't say that was my favorite. It was cool, but I wouldn't say it was my favorite. Like I enjoyed making the Scrap Red Wars 4 flaming computer more than i enjoyed making the fallout bomb that was super cool um yeah i don't know there's been lots though how to hide your yeah still valid today

just have to make sure my kids don't find it yeah yeah yeah some good tips in there Just have to make sure my kids don't find it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's some good tips in there. Pun intended. From Matt. If I have a water loop that the top is five feet above the pump and reservoir,

what should I do or use? Why? That's a good question. I think a D5 has over five feet ahead. Use a D5. You're probably going to have to turn it up a good question. I think a D5 has over five feet of head. Use a D5. You're probably going to have to turn it up a little bit. D5 head pressure. I generally like running D5s really low because they get nice.

Maximum head pressure of 3.9 meters. Yeah, just use a D5. There, easy. Easy answer. Very reliable. From Chris, Linus, and Luke. from chris lannis and luke do you think micro led and mini leds led tvs will stay relevant with the way oled and qd oled technology is advancing micro led is going to be an interesting one mini led is going to be a low cost option for quite some time costing reasons i think yes yeah uh reasons, I think, yes. Yeah.

Well, sort of. Okay, so the problem with mini LED is that it can only get so cheap because you have to have the logic to drive that full array local dimming in order to benefit from mini LED because if you're not packing the LEDs in super tight, why did you bother to use mini LEDs? So yeah, mini LED, does it get kind of pushed out by more traditional, just

edge lit basic TVs on the one side and then QD OLED, like sort of OLED backlighting over like a quantum dot layer on the other side, or just LG getting more aggressive with WLED? I don't, I don't know. I don't know what mini leds future places but micro led still has displays and if the if if the cost can get competitive enough it could be the only thing that matters because as tv sizes as consumers demand larger and larger tvs it's not going to be practical to ship them as a monolithic piece of glass like you won't be able to transport these 100 plus inch tvs so modular tvs right now my understanding audio no audio oh audio died oh it's back apparently micro leds are to my knowledge the best way to create a modular

display at this time and modular has benefits both for transport as well as for manufacturing to building many small panels could yield or could help you achieve better product yields than really, really large pieces of glass cut from the mother glass. Also extreme size displays. Yeah, extreme sizes. Also different aspect ratios. So micro LED displays could be a great way to have, you know, like a 21 by nine display setup

other than a projector. Like I see see i absolutely see a future for that technology like in the home in the home tv space i'm not obviously there's other applications for it i don't know for sure i mean rollable rollable, rollable OLEDs. That could be the way to tackle transport. And you could have the giant... Get your TV in a tube? Yeah, tube TV.

That would actually be amazing. If someone like marks it that way. Yeah. Buy a tube TV today. I think you can actually go now. I was making 100% sure. From Cameron, about the screwdriver. Does it have a gearless ratchet system I think you can actually go now. I was making 100% sure. From Cameron, about the screwdriver,

does it have a gearless ratchet system or is it a really fine-tooth ratchet? It's not gearless. Fine teeth, right? Fine teeth, yes. As far as I know, I have one at home, actually, a gearless one. Oh, like the roller gear or roll gear or whatever it is i think that's it yeah yeah yeah i've seen those um i like the feel i like the sound of of a ratchet uh yes it's

just a really roll gear that's it yeah it's just a it's just a really um good ratchet mechanism from david have you heard about Kaleidoscope, a high-end home theater alternate to streaming services? I looked it up, and it does look pretty interesting. I'm Googling it right now. Oh, boy, I'm getting lots of irrelevant search results because Kaleidoscope. Oh, sorry, it's Kaleidoscape.

Kaleidoscape. Kaleidoscope. Oh, sorry. It's Kaleidoscape. Kaleidoscape. Kaleidoscope. Okay. Yeah, this is probably not it. Kaleidoscope Theater. We're all about imagination. 2022 to 2023 season. Got your education programs here.

Kaleidoscape. What is this? What is this for? Escape. I don't know What is this for? Escape. I don't know because I haven't managed to find it. Collide Escape. The ultimate movie player. Fidelity source material for the ultimate cinematic experience.

View comparison. Yeah, this is probably good. Is it a computer? What are you talking about? What is this footage i don't know uh did i tell you about the time that i was at a i was at a convention and i was gonna make a video at a booth uh and i started laughing at a piece of marketing they had because it was showing like 60 hertz versus 120 hertz uh and i started laughing

and i i went to go like film a thing with it because i was gonna like make fun of it and one of the people ran over and grabbed it and ran away did i tell you about that because they like figured out what i was talking about and i guess they were like more well informed than most of the other people there and then just like booked it grabbed it and ran so that you couldn't make a video mocking it. That's hilarious. That was epic. So I just mentioned it in the video. It's like,

you're not fully getting away with that one. I might not be able to capture it on camera, but it happened. I'm sorry, but I just really don't understand what I'm looking at here. It's a... It seems like a computer.

It's a Media... Strat OC, 4K movie player. So it's a 1U thing. Mount it behind a TV. Ultra HD movie player player high dynamic range what what is it so then what you buy your movies through it or what what am i looking at here there's a lot of fast and furious very fast very furious i think you do buy your movies through it you buy your movies through them

yeah if you click on the the movies button at the top uh yes like you said you can get every fast and the furious i believe there's also like 14 000 other ones okay when i purchase it do i your only wait your only source for 4k ultra hd and blu-ray quality downloads so is it just blu-ray quality because i could just buy blu-rays uh show scenes i mean i uh i don't know i guess i am learning about this for the first time and i don't really have any thoughts on it because i don't really understand it fully yeah they say it's blu-ray quality but in that chart it's supposed to be better than blu-ray so oh well this apparently has a like double the bitrate of blu-ray version of it i mean more bitrate i'm i'm super down but when i buy this what am i buying am i do i actually

download this file like do i do i do i keep this file i feel like you would download it to that device which you would not be able to pull it off of if that makes sense oh that would make sense so you that's why you might like the hold on a second where where's the oh my goodness i'm like lost on their site that's always a good sign this movie is 42 and a half gigs that's not that much gladiator was 95 hello kaleidoscope.com so in a full plane chat oh full plane chat is is debating right now wow probably not about that i think everyone is fully aware of what just happened uh that's why you've got these different servers with different amounts of storage because whatever you buy is has to go on there got to be locked to that for best in class hard drives allow

the system to stay up and running in the event of a drive failure are they though they're best in class luke tell me what they are. They're from a leading hard drive manufacturer. So basically, Seagate or WD. Because there aren't a lot of other options at this point. Oh, man. Increased ability to play back and download content at the same time. How much does one of these cost?

How much is a of these cost? How much is a Tera movie server? That's what I hate about this stuff. Like, you don't have pricing on your site, but everyone knows the pricing, so you're just making me Google it. Like, why? Why waste my time? Just have the pricing there.

The 72 terabyte server is $24 nice nice awesome wow all the places that it's available are like super high-end like home design stuff here's the place sound and vision.com wait is this reviews or? What even is this? Oh my goodness. Look at these ads everywhere. Get this out of my way. Man, yeah, okay. This appears to be a review site of some sort.

I clicked on one and it just says, the future home of something cool. Neat. That doesn't sound like a currently operating company. What even am I looking at here? Me being me, I decided to transition just about my full disk collection, and that's why I needed not just one, but two 24 terabyte Tera servers for my setup.

Really? Who are you? Hmm. setup really who are you I continue to love and highly recommend this hold on a second uh I don't know don't share my screen for a sec I do I find this interesting there so this is one of the websites that is apparently a dealer, Lux Audio Video Solutions, Manhattan, Southampton, Greenwich. I scrolled down, I saw this one. I'm like, okay, this almost looks like a render, but for sure. I keep scrolling down, I see this one. There's no seating space in front of that TV. Do you know how much those

speakers cost? No. I think those are meridian speakers uh i'm looking at them real small here hold on i mean never mind no no i don't think they are i thought they were the speakers i saw when we did the meridian tour that was uh sponsored by lg and i was like whoa because apparently they're like a hundred plus grand each yeah you can we can go off it now um but yeah i just there's no there's no couch or seating space in front of that tv and the whole place looks extremely expensive but it's this like relatively small looking tv it's just like a weird picture to include i don't know it was odd yeah oh check out maybe it was a meridian does it did it look like this one does that look right

yeah just white yeah it looked like the one on the on the right yeah okay yeah i think it was yeah that that speaker is like tens of thousands of dollars for one wow okay kaleidoscope encore And the Tera 6TB version is 7,614 GBP. That's some money. That's got to be some real nice hard drives in there, you know? Apparently, those Meridians are cheaper. They're only $15,000 MSRP each. Only $30,000 for the pair. Yeah, just $30,000. Not each. Only 30 grand for the pair. Yeah, just 30 grand.

Not a big deal. They did sound great. But then again, having never additioned a tens of thousands of dollars speaker pair before. It sounds great. Not spending 30 grand on speakers sounds great. The 24. Okay, let's see here. The costing difference between a 6 terabyte Tera,

so that's the 7,614 pounds, and the 12 terabyte Tera, that goes to 9,000 pounds. Oh, wow. You actually found somewhere that just has it in proper pricing, just listed. Jumping from 12 to 24? That's a lot of money for some

hard drives for some hard drives now that's some niche content we could get into I think Apple just got one upped that's some niche content we could get into like if you are the kind of person who can spend $12,000 on a computer

then can you like replace the drives yourself and trick it like get it like that is a really small overlap people who can afford this kaleidoscope thing and people who want to save a buck on a hard drive right there okay so if you buy the terra six terabyte for it's a still ridiculous 7,614 pounds. It's only six terabyte. If you wanted to upgrade it to a 24 terabyte, which is like, I mean, that's not nothing in hard drives.

Yeah. But it's, you know, it's not an almost doubling of price. Yeah. Yeah. So you could save, I think it's's like six thousand dollars or something by doing that we saved six thousand dollars on this hard drive upgrade yeah but then we also wasted a bunch of money that we could have just wasted a lot of money um anyway what else you got i think we learned we need it for labs uh one of our first tests, $30,000 in speakers, $30,000 in a Plex server.

Yeah. Oh, that'd be one heck of a Plex server. That would be like, whew, that'd be a spicy Plex server. That'd be sweet. Yeah, you're really far from your mic. That would be sweet. From Marksy, and maybe this is a related question, if you could have absolute control of any tech company,

which would it be? Man, I don't think any one person should have absolute control of any tech company. I think that's kind of the problem right now. You know what? I'm not even going to go any further. I'm not even going to come up with one that I'd want to be mostly in control of.

I think it's like an enormous, one of the problems of our time. I feel like pretty much any of them. I mean, the one that I would probably change the most is Apple. Really? No, that's not even true. The one I'd probably change the most. Oh, my God.

They're all. I feel like if I got control of Facebook, I would just close it. No, Facebook could absolutely be a force for good facebook marketplace keeps so much trash out of the landfill like it's like actually good facebook could be an enormous force for good luke okay anytime they're not it's because they choose not to be so yeah that's fair so so taking the easy way out of making an improvement would be to close it but you could make more of an improvement by just making it not evil

by making it great yeah cool from Pedro I'm an animator I'd love to know if you guys enjoy animated movies and if you have any favorite ones or ones that had an impact on your life yeah sure I love animated movies I man I ones that had a big impact on your life? Yeah, sure. I love animated movies. I, man, I, ones that had a big impact on my life.

I mean, I was an adult by the time. Okay, well, okay. What kind of animator are you? We're talking 3D animation. Then I was kind of an adult by the time those started to really be a thing. But to pick an animated movie that had an impact on my life uh that's tough that's tough i like them i can't really think of one i mean i know that land before time

had a big impact on like my mom's life i was kind of young for the symbolism of everything that she was doing but my parents split up and so one of the things that she gave me was a tree star and the idea was that uh whenever i had my tree star i'd know she was around or something like that but and i was like a little kid i was like i've got my little little foot stuffy and my and my tree star and i'm like this is cool it's from my mom but like you know the weight of something like that doesn't didn't fully impact hit you when you're yeah you know four or whatever right i've never been super into like movies and stuff um so i think the most impact that an animated movie on me has had is is uh i don't even know i think it i think it wasn't

called baymax i think baymax was just a character in it uh big hero six yeah yeah okay his like when they would fist bump and he would go yeah my girlfriend and i did that for like years so i feel like that would be the biggest impact did it have meaning behind it no but it was just like a thing that happened yeah i don't know archer goes bugs life taught me the ways of carl marx it's amazing that movie got made there's like man there's some there's some there's some serious like symbolism in in animated like kids movies you know one of the one of the most wild ones to me me is like what is up with Wreck-It Ralph like it is clearly about colonialism and like stealing someone's land and somehow turning them into the bad guy and I'm kind of sitting here going is nobody gonna talk about this why is Wreck-It Ralph the bad guy here? He was literally just chilling. And then, you know,

Fix-It Felix and the Nicelanders. Like, even the name. It's like, the civilized people come in and, like, build their crap, and he's like, hey, you shouldn't do that, and tears it down. Like, oh, I'm sorry, he's the bad guy now? I'm sitting here going, like, huh.

It's been a long time since I've seen it I don't know yeah Conrad mentioned anything from Studio Ghibli I really need to watch those I have yes you do yeah yeah I do or wait no Bugs Life no not Bugs Life Ants Ants is the one the the ways of Karl Marx where they seize the means of production or whatever yeah no no no not uh not bugs life i don't remember bugs life at all i haven't watched that since i was definitely way too young to understand a question from carl and surprisingly like two or three other people uh what's your guys's favorite laptop or one that like stands out to you of like uh this was really good for its time or is currently really good every laptop i have ever purchased still works which is kind of nuts because the first one that i purchased was in 2009 and it literally still functions um my bamboo still works i think my parents like lost it but they they have it somewhere. They'll find

it. Um, I, I bought this Toshiba, um, that was probably my like favorite individual one. I'm not going to remember the model, but it was this like silver and white laptop that had a backlit keyboard that I really liked because I'd use it in the dark and I could see the keyboard and like, yes, I don't need to see a desktop keyboard to be able to type on it, but I kind of do on certain laptop keyboards because they have varied layouts, right? And yeah, that laptop's just still chugging. It worked for like ever. Eventually, I don't remember if it was my brother or myself, but one of us put an SSD in it and that like brought some life back to it. At this point, it's literally a laptop from 2009. So there's not so much you life back to it at this point it's literally a laptop from 2009 so there's not so much you can do to it to make it not just like borderline useless but like it can web browse

it can edit a document it can't do either super perfectly but it can do it which is cool uh and like average laptop lifespan, as far as my understanding, when I used to work in retail was like three years. So the fact that I've never had any of them die is pretty cool. I don't know. I don't know if I could choose a favorite. I actually haven't owned a ton of laptops.

I guess the one I had in uni was kind of cool. The M5N-E. It was one of the only bare bones laptops you could get i was like determined to like piece it together myself saved a couple bucks that was all right cool question here from mystic man i'm curious if you guys do any daily reading whether it's news sites web comics or anything of that sort i read news daily I doom scroll twitter which I shouldn't that from Nicholas now that you've

gone through some of these troubles with the lab and with lab one and stuff like that is there anything that you would do differently now that you're where you are now in the progress of everything um no i would have recruited someone additional internally to help me with hiring because over 10 000 resumes was a lot yeah joe's been helping me out just for like some transparency but i brought him in not right away um and having someone who would be able to uh potentially even like do interviews

and stuff would have been really nice i don't know if that would have even been possible at the time i don't know but yeah it's been like quite the process because it's just been so much work because anytime we have a developer position up, we just get insane amounts of applications, which is great. Like I appreciate it, but it's so hard work. Question from Justin. Do you have any other plans for Steam Deck videos?

It's another one we've gotten quite a bit after we didn't do the using it every day for a month because you just gamed the whole time. Yeah, we are going to be uploading a video where we hot rod cooled the Steam Deck. I saw that picture. I pitched this to Alex a while back and he's like, I don't think it's going to work.

Spoiler alert, it's awesome. It looks like it wouldn't be uncomfortable too. It's fine. Which is cool. It's amazing. Basically, the whole genesis of that project was a conversation with the CEO of AYA, who makes the NEO, that competing handheld.

And I was like, hey, noise on these things is a problem and cooling is a problem and cooling is a problem. Here's a solution. And it was actually inspired by those, you know, those little water cooling kits you can get for phones where it's like just a backing you put on it and then you run tubes to like an ice bath or whatever just to like cool your phone while you're gaming on it so your FPS doesn't drop. It was inspired by that.

And I was like, OK, what about that but less stupid so you just have uh because you've got your your die and then you've got usually a heat pipe of some sort running off to your your heat exchanger um what if just on top of that heat pipe you had a spot where you could for sure yeah where you could just put like a secondary cooling element that sticks out of the casing and then you could just have a cover for when you're not using it that'd be flipping awesome right and he's like oh i don't know manual performance mode that sounds pretty that sounds pretty dumb it sounds pretty 90s to be completely honest and then i sent him a picture of the result and i told him the results and he was like we will explore this that's cool that's cool i like that we did it with the steam deck rather than an ineo just because the steam deck's layout is more conducive to a a janky uh you know kind of half-arsed implementation

without ruining like your your hand-holding experience, I guess. But I would love to see that actually become a thing. Yeah, that's cool. That is pretty much it for questions. We just get a lot of passionate Roku people over the last couple weeks. Hey, what's up? Shout out Roku people.

There is the thing. I saw someone ask about RTC up? Shout out Roku people. There is the thing. There is the thing. I saw someone ask about RTC batteries on framework laptops. It started some controversy on the forums. I've looked at it now. I see that they are replying to people about what went wrong and what they've changed.

So I guess we'll have to just keep an eye on that. But it seems like in terms of transparency, they're doing okay now. I know I say it wrong, but there's the app Hydravion. Apparently it's French for float plane. Hydravion. Hydravion.

I'm guessing. That makes sense. Avion. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Hydravion. It's, yeah, apparently it works great. I don't know.

I've heard very good things about it. Again, I haven't personally used it. I don't have a Roku, but I have heard very good things about it. Again, I haven't personally used it. I don't have a Roku, but I have heard very good things about it. So yeah, check it out. I'm not saying we won't make one eventually. I don't personally have one, but I've heard great things.

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm done. That is pretty much what I was doing. And I think we're done here. Thanks for tuning into The Wanchill. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel Bye

Okay, hold on a second Hold on a second, stop the intro Hold on, I gotta go back to Cam only here I wasn't trying to pronounce it in French It was an English pronunciation of the French. I was like,

hydravion. It would be hydravion or something like that. I know it's not hydravion. Okay, enough. We're trying to kind of help people find it. So we're saying it a little bit more English phoneticallyetically you know

oh man you guys want to see something funny hold on before we go before we go something funny uh here's my shared screen people are like uh law linus ignored youtube chat guess what this is still broken. Super chats and members. There are literally super chats right here. And new members right here. And yet they are not under viewer activity. This is why we just don't bother anymore. So dumb.

There's a funny moment in the stream where usually when we share screens, we share your screen. So there's Twitch and floatplane chat up. And then they like fight. Something that's been really funny is lately twitch chat has just been saying really nice things about floatplane chat so floatplane chat looks like a bunch of jerks uh which i find to be entertaining um but when we shared my screen i don't have twitch chat up so it's just floatplane chatChat drawing arrows to themselves saying negative things. So, I love you, FloatplaneChat, but you kind of got owned.

Oh, so funny. Alright, bye guys. Bye.