The WAN Show - I've Made a Terrible Mistake - WAN Show July 1, 2022

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

Protect your eyes and headset with Reloptix at https://lmg.gg/Reloptix Visit https://www.squarespace.com/WAN and use offer code WAN for 10% off Save up to $130 during Secretlab’s mid-year sale at https://lmg.gg/SecretLabWAN Timestamps: (Courtesy of NoKi1119) 0:00 Chapters 1:20 Intro 1:53 Topic #1 - Linus's haircut 3:27 Summarizing the ChannelSuperFun video 9:20 FP's new poll system, "fake" videos 12:54 Luke's story on hairdressers 14:10 Linus struggles with polling, is Luke mean? 15:20 Topic #2 - YouTube battling bot spam 16:22 Blame the platform, not the victims 20:43 YouTube's update, why this is not enough 23:22 Scamming is a large industry 26:07 Bot comment examples on LTT, blocking users 32:16 Problems with removing bot comments 35:18 Linus planning to chat with a Telegram scammer 38:20 "Trend" dashboard, lack of informative metrics 46:18 Linus is done repeating himself to YouTube 50:25 LTTStore new sweatshorts & hoodie, editing comments 55:33 LTT deskpad promo, JRE's razor knife 1:00:04 Topic #3 - YouTuber Technoblade passed away 1:03:55 Sponsor - Reloptix 1:05:30 Sponsor - Squarespace 1:06:32 Sponsor - Secretlab 1:07:25 Merch Messages #1 1:07:45 Old & new milestones for LMG 1:12:31 New smart home tools 1:13:40 Harmony remote issues & alternatives 1:16:49 Home theatre second-row solution 1:17:31 HPE ProLiant RL300 & ARM in the server space 1:19:07 Linus's "free Microsoft Windows" prediction 1:22:06 Cel-Fi repeater update 1:23:03 Pros of Linus's haircut 1:23:40 LTX booth or panel in VidCon 1:27:14 Topic #4 - Intel's Blockscale ASIC 1:27:32 Specifications, performance 1:28:08 Luke does not thinks it's too late 1:29:11 Power efficiency, costs to run 1:32:47 Linus's PSA on the LTTStore screwdriver 1:34:44 FP's Poll, live stream & comparing with other brands 1:38:47 Topic #5 - Nvidia releases GTX 1630 But for who? 1:39:20 Specifications & pricing 1:40:16 Recalling AMD R7 240, stop wasting money 1:43:07 Linus uses Telegram 1:43:48 Topic #6 - Sony now sells headsets & monitors 1:46:26 Topic #7 - SSD oddities on Macbook Pro & Steam Deck 1:48:28 SSD cooling issues on Steam Deck 1:49:20 Telegram issues, attempting to call the scammer 1:51:38 Topic #8 - GSuite is not the same as the free versions 1:54:32 Telegram now works, contacts the scammer 1:58:48 Merch Messages #2 1:59:10 VR gaming as GPU prices dropping 2:01:49 Labs update content-wise 2:02:38 Space science, Mars probe upgraded after 20 years 2:03:46 Best and worst thing about Linus's house 2:05:02 AMD fusing multiple dies on next-gen GPUs 2:05:45 Hopes for Nothing Phone 1 & headphones 2:06:39 Linus on Sony & Pixel phones 2:07:21 LTTStore coffee mugs, an idea overdue 2:07:36 Advices on running software development remotely 2:09:38 Thoughts on used server parts for home server/NAS 2:10:53 Why does LMG place employees under probation? 2:12:12 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Travel better with Air Canada. You can enjoy free beer, wine, and premium snacks in economy class. Now extended to flights within Canada and the U.S. Cheers to taking off this summer. More details at aircanada.com. Welcome to the WAN Show, ladies and gentlemen. We've got a fantastic show lined up for you today. And a lot of great topics including what happened to my hair yeah yeah yeah i will say this much there's a channel super fun i've heard you're not going to want to miss it we'll be talking about that we're also going to be talking about youtube's new features to combat comment spam. It turns out they care.

Or at least they care a little. We're going to dig into it. What else we got? I'm scrolling. It looks like the dock is still under construction, but we are working on it. This one's pretty good. Oh, well, I turned the text yellow

instead of highlighting it. There's a Google engineer explains why business versus non-business G-Suite accounts work the way that they do. And which is to say that the business ones, the paid ones don't work. Yes. Yes. It's very interested to hear about that. It's pretty much what you'd expect, but it's interesting to hear it like from someone that

actually works there, you know, like it's that's good. That's helpful. That's nice. I'm not going to do this one. is it there it is oh yeah intel's block scale crypto miner is out early but also late yep bad timing intel let's go ahead and roll that in that seems to be a theme theme for them lately. The show was brought to you today by Reluptics squarespace and secret lab let's jump right into what i know is on everyone's mind first and foremost what the heck happened to my hair yeah do you like my haircut do you like the new well i'm glad i can count on you for your forthrightness i don't think it always i don't

think it's like horrible but i think it's a clear definite absolute downgrade uh i mean and being a downgrade over doing nothing no no see like four months see but i don't pretty rough i don't necessarily agree with that because there's a lot of different like men's hairstyles that you can get away with that are like attractive and are actually genuinely good. I should not be drinking water. That take very little maintenance. Yes, tell me more.

And you found it. I feel like you had hit your like apex. You had figured out your beard. Your beard was good. Now it's like smaller, I think. I think you trimmed... Did you trim the beard back? Well, I was good. Now it's like smaller, I think. I think you trimmed, did you trim the beard back? Well, I didn't.

Oh, he did that too. Yes. Yeah, it doesn't look as good. So I feel like you had figured that out and then that's downgraded. And I feel like you had figured the hair out because you don't like doing tons of maintenance with your hair. No, I don't.

So you had something that worked really well, and it was a package, and it was good, and you were doing good. So you're saying basically... And now it looks like someone who like... I peaked, and I'm on the down slope. I'm on the down slope. Now it looks like you saw someone else's haircut that worked really well for them,

and you're like, I'm going to take exactly that, even though it doesn't work for me. Okay, do you know know what the video was because it sounds like you know what the video was i actually don't dennis went to yvonne and asked her for a reference picture the reference picture she chose was uh chris hemsworth like thor chris hems, but with like the you know, like this one sorry, I swept it the wrong way, it doesn't matter the point is, it's supposed to go up a bit at the very least she picked that Dennis then had

three hours of professional instruction from a top tier hairdresser on dummies and everything learning to use all the tools to learn how to give that haircut then he had one hour to execute that haircut including beard trim on me and obviously this is going to be a bit of a spoiler for you when show viewers but i promise you the

journey is just as much fun as the destination, if not more so, because there were some additional challenges, some curveballs that I threw into Dennis as part of the whole challenge. But I will say this. I have often gone to the hairdresser and not really understood why they do things the way that they do. Do you get it now is that the direction no oh i still don't get it okay because dennis did things that were like proper the way that a hairdresser would do it like for example do you use just like a guard and a trimmer and a and a shaver to trim your beard yeah okay according to the hairdresser you should never go against the grain you always go with the grain so been doing it wrong yeah i don't know how you you can't get certain because

it just flattens it well let's talk about that okay when i trim my beard which i think i've got down to pretty much a science i think it's been pretty good it takes me about 110 seconds like it actually takes me pretty much no you have your guard length figured out yeah it's number four pretty much across the board i go a little easy here because i have like kind of a thin spot right here neither of us i'm assuming not exactly masters of beards oh no not at all take this for the don't take advice complete ignorant nonsense that it is okay yeah yeah but i just grab a number four i just go grab everything that everything that it will cut you know kind of blend a little bit here

try not to take off too much in that kind of weak spot right there and then i take off the guard i fix up the cheeks and then I just kind of go, and then I'm done. It actually takes me less than two minutes. Meanwhile, Dennis, following the proper way of doing it, where you go down, managed to get as low as a number one without taking pretty much anything off. And then he goes and he starts cutting freehand around the mustache, which was terrifying. Oh, like no guard? So I do that.

Well, no guard, but not like, like I rest against my lip because it won't cut it. Yeah. So I, I like use the lip as a, as a, as a guide. No, I mean freehand, like, like, like a pencil. Just like, like holding my head And going like one slip And I'm looking like I got like a bear spot here

You know what I mean It was madness Can I see the back of your head And can you take the headphones off And like just turn a little bit I'll ditch the headphones off How do I look Okay

Wow I spent half an hour on this fade yeah yep okay see i don't i don't know i know nothing about hair but like it doesn't really seem like it's blended properly um because like you can see the layers which i don't think is like what's supposed to happen yeah i don't think so i don't know you've got some stuff going on back here yeah yeah yeah yeah i i don't think dennis was familiar with the concept of a cowlick which was interesting okay yeah and he kept saying oh your hair is so thin and i'm'm like, yeah, Dennis, I'm not Asian. I don't have like coarse hair. Yeah, it's thin.

Oh, it's so curly. Like, okay, A, it's not that curly. I've got a bit of a wave, but it's not curly. And like, yes, yes, I have white guy hair. What do you want from me? That's sort of what I was talking about, though, is it doesn't look like it was cut for you, which might be the problem with the source material or whatever.

Honestly, the second I saw you, because I ran into him in the stairwell earlier today, and the second I saw you, I was just like, huh. It's just more weird than anything, because personally, i don't think it suits you this is great twitch chat twitch chat be like wow linus balding af bald spot above the right ear no no no that would be dennis's hand to work

wait what wait what is this oh no no that's just okay okay there we go yeah so yes some hairline receding but no that's not just like a bald spot that's just, okay, okay, there we go. Yeah. So, yes, some hairline receding, but no, that's not just, like, a bald spot. That's just, well, he didn't really take any length off. That, too, it's really long. It's really, really long. Like, the hair on the top of his head. Really long. But also, like, down the back.

Like, there's hair that's really long down the back. I know, well, he barely touched the top. He spent half an hour of his time on this fade that is extremely uneven like it goes from nothing to hello yeah yeah yeah yeah and then probably another 10 minutes on the beard so the poll on floatplane is showing 72 percent no 72 percent do not like the hair here i'll share my screen with you guys. Here's a, we have a new polling system on Floatplane, freaking amazing.

Massive shout out, Floatplane team for putting that together for us. Way easier to generate polls now. But yeah, that's, are you going to leave it? I have to. That's part of the like, them's the rules? You can't have stakes.

See, I always talk to people internally about this. I hate fakeness. I hate fake reactions and fake pranks. I just didn't know like, okay, you have to hold it for the rest of the week or like what? The fakeness that is online content in general. Oh, constantly. I was doom scrolling on facebook in the middle of the night like i don't know it must have been a couple of months ago it's got to be one of the worst things to do to scroll on pretty much i came across this video that's like

she surprised her her she she surprised her husband with a visit from military duty or something. And it's this thing that she's wearing like an old man, like a rubber mask and like dressed up as someone else entirely. And he's a doctor and he's like sitting working his computer and she manages to completely strip down her costume to like her army fatigues. While he's working. While he's supposedly working and not noticing any of this and i'm sitting this has like 20 million views of course like just just and i'm sitting here going i was watching it as part of like i continued watching it i i figured out it was fake immediately but i was continuing watching it just to kind of see what are people watching you know reading the

comments right there's some people where they're like commenting like they're playing along obviously but there's a lot where you look at it and you go no unironically you you don't realize that this is just a complete setup i don't i it. Anyway, I refuse. I refuse to participate in it. So a big part of the challenge, I think, for Channel Superfun, for me, is that the stakes, like the scale of stakes for, you know, fun, like skit or prank or challenge videos on YouTube has been thrown so far out of whack by both people who are just actually wild and willing to go to just unbelievable extremes for their content and people who fake the consequences, right?

Yeah. So as an actual company with an employee agreement and work safe policies, we can't really compete. But what we can do is we can be genuine about what we do. And so from my point of view, unless I actually had to live with the haircut for some substantial period of time, there's no stakes. There's no risk.

And if there's no risk, there's no tension. And there's no tension, there's no content. What's the substantial period of time? So how long are we talking? I'd say at least a few weeks before I touch it up, yeah. Because are you worried about a decrease in video views? Should you use old pictures of you as thumbnail shots? What the f*** did you just say to me?

I think your appeal may have gone down. Have I ever told you the story about how I went from one hairdresser to another hairdresser because the first one was so bad? I don't think so. It sounds like a really compelling tale, though. Please do share. I decided I'll go to a nice hairdresser. Because I've always gone to just really very cheap ones. So I'll go to a a nice hairdresser because i've always gone to like just really like very cheap ones so i'll go to a really nice hairdresser so i went there they did the haircut i wasn't really super i was already like yeah whatever but i realized as i was walking out that they never did the mirror thing so you can see the back of your head

and as i was getting in the car i just brushed the back of my head and realized that she did literally nothing like it was super long so i just drove the back of my head and realized that she did literally nothing. Like it was super long. So I just drove to my previous hairdresser and I was like, yeah, I'm not going to like explain this, but if you can like fix what happened, that would be awesome. That was sweet. As part of this video, the hairdresser that trained Dennis actually said that whatever he screwed up i could go in and she would fix it but like i said yeah you gotta you gotta live with it for a certain amount of time for sure yes i i think two to three weeks is probably the right amount of time for me to have emo linus videos going up it's just so long it's very long it's very long you're being very mean though by the way and i think the community's

with me here i don't know how to post polls but i'm sure someone will post it for me oh you can't do you need the main screen oh okay main screen turn on uh no oh okay okay luke too mean. Yes. I got roasted. If this situation was swapped, you'd be going in just as hard, if not harder. No way. Yes, you absolutely would.

I have never gone this hard at you about anything, and that is the God's honest truth. I don't believe that at all. I'm going to vote no on this one. You're going to vote no. Yes! Okay. Flowplane, whose side are you on here?

Probably mine. Clearly Luke's. He's a rude, mean guy, and you guys are really not giving me the support that I feel that I deserve. You know what? I don't even think he's a rude mean guy I think he's a nice guy who does rude mean things I'm not mad I'm just disappointed

floatplane that's funny okay but enough with the uh enough with the the hair let's talk about YouTube's new feature to combat comment spam we talked about this as recently as last week we did a dedicated video about it when theo joe released his tool that would basically do youtube's job for them through api calls to check comments scan them for obvious spam like tap to masturbate my like that kind of stuff well like honestly honestly yeah they're they're pretty blatant they're they're they're right there they're they're in there you know they got the just oh yeah and they got the the pornographic profile pictures and everything like it just honestly it doesn't seem it's either it's either that spectrum or it's the the the the fake channels like oh lois tech tips is doing a giveaway for whatever yeah

mr beast is doing a giveaway for whatever contact me on whatsapp and the thing is guys you gotta understand they wouldn't be doing it if it doesn't work and it's not constructive to blame the victim here we have to blame the scammers first and foremost and then second since you're not going to get the scammers to stop asking nicely you've got to blame the platform because it didn't seem that complicated no offense theo joe nice guy do i think he's a world-class software developer no by his own admission he's a hobbyist who taught himself how to make a really cool tool make this tool yeah like he's an amateur guys literally by the definition i'm not trying to throw shade but he's an amateur and he was able

to create a filter just by just just looking at the comments caring enough i've had youtube representatives ask me oh can you send examples no i can't send examples they're everywhere go on a video you should have just linked them youtube.com well yeah right because they're literally everywhere it's been so frustrating? Well, masturbate's not a bad word. It's the correct term, okay? For pleasuring yourself. It's not a bad word. I'll try to read the comments under.

Sorry, they're asking why I didn't beep it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, anyway. I'll try to read the comments under WAN show, and I'll see someone say something, and I'll see a reply, and I'll be like, oh, I'm actually interested to see

what other people think about this statement. And I click view reply, and it's like, go to my telegram it's like oh my god come claim your giveaway all you have to do is send me $80 for shipping I mean they must have been making bank the point is it's been going on for so long that I mean I understand I I felt this way myself I understand the community's frustration and the community sentiment that YouTube clearly just doesn't care. I mean, the last conversation that I had with YouTube about this was,

look, guys, at this point, you guys need to do what you do and go way too far for a solution and work your way backwards rather than trying to implement quarter measures or half measures to try to stop the bleeding you need to just get that is it tourniquet tourniquet i guess tourniquet depends on to stop depends on the tourniquet would it in french would it be tourniquet i don't know q-u-e-E-T en français. Oh, pronunciation.

I have no idea. Anyway, tourniquet. You need to just get that thing on that leg that is clearly off, cinch it, get the blood to stop. The suggestion I gave them was like, look, you guys need to stop allowing anything other than official language, alpha numeric characters. That's it. That's it. No special special characters just block it all usernames message contents all of it

figure out your shit and then start to slowly bring it back because this is clearly costing people a lot of money I might have an unpopular opinion here but i don't even know if you need to bring it back from why do you need special characters in the comments yeah i'm not trying to i'm not as long as there are no languages yeah that are that are screwed with no exactly but there's there's a huge amount of characters that are essentially only used for fooling people exactly only used for exploits or abuse like oh this looks like an eye, but it's not an eye. It's some other thing or whatever else. Like, there's tons of that stuff.

So, I don't know. I just, I can't. Thorium says alphanumeric would lock out other languages. Sorry, I'm using the term. That's why I specifically said, like, what you need for languages. I mean, they're alpha characters, whatever those would be. Now, I know that there could be some challenges associated with that like i don't know much about what's involved in typing in simplified or traditional chinese for example so there could be some

misleading characters that you absolutely do need that you have to have yeah there definitely would be yeah but there are also ones that i really just don't think you need that badly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, turn to K in French. Don't pronounce the T. All right.

So there you go. Got it. Sure. Anyway, they finally have a response. The talking points from Adam here are funny. No, we are not running a giveaway and we certainly aren't doing it through Telegram. Yes, thank you, Adam, for that.

YouTube has finally announced some updates to combat the spam and impersonation that has been rampant in the video comments section. The updates listed are that they are no longer allowing channels to hide subscriber counts. This is supposedly to make impersonation more difficult. As much as I like the attempt,

and I do agree with what you were saying about how they need to go too far the first time, I don't think this is going to make pretty much any difference at all. Well, let's get through the rest of the changes. Sure. Okay. They are improving creator comment moderation in the YouTube studio. Increased strictness in the held for review tab is now available to all creators.

So it's a moderation level, a new moderation level. I have still seen significant spam creep through. We have had access to that feature for some weeks. Okay, yeah. And they are limiting the type and frequency of special characters in channel names removing characters that can be easily misread for other letters from the allowed character set for example uh here i'm just going to share the doc here with you guys for a second whoop this is no longer allowed.

YouTube. That's a YouTube of sorts. Welcome to my video site. Yen, ooh, whatever that T is, oob. YouTube will then continue monitoring the situation and investigating other ways to remove spam. Okay, I agree with you. I don't think this goes far enough. I don't understand why they don't just remove the special characters also from like body text why i don't i

don't know it's a problem so just block it yeah just the channel name being special characters is probably not enough um there's also a lot of like to use mr beast as an example there's a lot of uh channels that he has that are derivatives of beast yep i don't know what they are but yep so you could mislead someone by having like a beast plays with a zed instead of giveaways beast giveaways yeah yeah beast prizes that's exactly the sort of thing that these scammers literally spend their entire day brainstorming and coming up we figured that out in a few seconds they'll figure out much better things and the thing you guys have got to understand too is that these scam industries are not maybe what you think they are they're they not just some person who can't get a job, sitting alone in their

basement, coming up with clever scams. There are sizable enterprises dedicated to coming up with ways to rip people off online. And the really wild thing is that they can have employees that don't even realize that they work for scammers. They're just developers working on features and they get a paycheck and they might not even realize it. So these are sizable teams with significant resources. Anywhere where there's a lot of money you can afford to hire talent so there are actually talented people working on this stuff and in youtube's defense it's a non-trivial problem to solve and you have to find a balance between site usability and blocking scammers and spammers the the yeah i i do think it's non-trivial because it's an arms race um though like theo

joe's thing did work very well so and there's there's things that could have been done uh that were not super ultra high effort you know what i mean there's low-hanging fruit solutions that were not implemented and i don't honestly think that these measures are going to like solve it i don't think hiding subscriber counts is going to solve it when i bet you a lot of people aren't doing that level of due diligence anyways because if they were they would obviously be able to tell it wasn't the same channel um in a variety of other ways because if you're looking at subscriber count there's you could look at the videos that are on the channel um like there's there's other ways it's also i mean you got to remember a huge part of scamming is social engineering right once you are once you've

started a conversation with someone you can talk your way through a lot of problems yeah you could just say yeah we don't have any subscribers on this channel because it's just the one we use to contact people. Some low-level employee manages it instead of Jimmy himself, Mr. Beast. Oh, okay. I could see someone saying, oh, well, that sounds plausible enough. And it does. I don't think it goes far enough. The increased strictness feature is really the one that needs to be good yeah and it needs to be better like the rest of these are kind of whatever um increased strictness needs to be good it's clearly you're saying it's not it's working i'm not doing enough it is better okay

but it's not solving it we have it enabled across all of our channels now and it is better but it is not perfect let's see let's see let's see how fast you can find a spam comment on the most recent ldt upload that one might be a little challenging just because it is from yesterday so we don't upload on friday do they like take a while to well i also don't know if we're still running the theo joe script Well, I also don't know if we're still running the Theo Joe script. If we are, that almost certainly would have found it. Oh, never mind.

I found something already. Okay, I take it back. So here's how long it took me. I popped open the comments, video comments. I haven't responded. This filter is enabled by default. I don't know why. So I was scrolling down, looking.

This is all 42 minutes ago. One of the things that YouTube employees have pointed out to me in the past is that right in the minutes after a video goes live, there can be a lot of spam because the bots will be triggered by a video going live, and they will post all their crappy spam right in those first few minutes. And then there, the thumbs up and thumbs down are ways that the community can help to moderate the comment section, making it so that those comments might still be there, but only a creator would normally see them because as a creator, the way that I consume comments is probably very different from the way that you would consume comments. I look at them in chronological order because I

don't want to miss things and, or I want to make sure, well, mostly I don't want to miss things and or I want to make sure well mostly I don't want to miss things I want to see everything not just what got the most upvotes so I will look through the whole feed so I will see all that crap but if I were to actually look at it in the public view sorted by by best or whatever the the default sorting is top I I wouldn't I wouldn't really see it personally I just like the thumbs up and thumbs down to be public again um like they are on reddit which is i mean it's got its own toxicity but at least has very little spam from my experience except in very very like small threads on really obscure communities you'll find spam there but any reasonably moderated community like human moderation just kind of seems to be the answer anyway the point is I'm on this video.

Um, and this is from quite recent. We managed to have to go as far. Oh, um, first of all, yeah, this definitely rest in peace.

Technoblade. Oh, did you see that? Have you watched the video? I did. It's heartbreaking. That's yeah. Have you seen the merch?

I, I'm planning to buy myself the uh limited edition um uh the the the two-sided one i forget exactly what the graphics are but i was thinking about getting the gg easy uh here we go from three hours ago this is a video that went up yesterday uh here's our reply so this is basically the chief tech, whatever. Hello, fan telegram, Linus tech tips official. Thank you for watching. Congratulations. You've won a price. I wonder if that's an intentional typo because they've done it twice here and they've put a little emoji next to it of a gift. So it's amazing what the human brain can do when, when you're reading, like you can have the first, what is it? letter and the last letter correct and then everything else random and you will still be

able to read the word like easily it's pretty crazy so stuff like that is almost certainly intentional because you will see this emoji gloss over it probably not even notice that it's a typo but that's probably how they're getting around this particular filter and the thing is i could go could go in and I could put in text filters. I could see this. I could go, okay, well, let's not allow the word prize, right? In our, in our comments. But clearly, YouTube, the fact that they're doing this means that YouTube is already responding to the word prize in comments. I can't block the word price, but I don't, I mean, again, am I just being, am I just hating on people's personal expression when i say i don't really understand why we need emojis and i think emojis i think emojis are fine i don't

think that really matters i i have a need them uh if it's a question of user safety and emojis i'd like to see them implemented again there's a lot of things in life where if you put safety as the paramount thing in the equation, then we just don't ever do anything. That's literally the definition. This is why we can't have nice things. It's basically what you're saying. And I have no problem with them re-implementing it,

but they need to do something now. Something big. I have a message from Telegram line of Sec Tips official as well on my screen. I found it on, I believe, a different video. And it says, something huge for you. Text me to claim. There's no emojis, not needed.

And you got to understand too, I actually moderate our comments. When I see these guys, when I'm just doom scrolling comments on the can, I will block user from channel, which is a much more useful tool than it used to be. I've complained about it so much. The fact that there isn't a single button still,

for years, years, I've been asking for a single button. I want to report spam, delete the comment, and block the user from the channel. One button. For years, I've had to choose. Choose a function. No, no, no. Now, block user from channel does now at least delete that comment.

But I don't know if it reports it to YouTube as spam because it should only take a handful of spam reports to flag a review okay is this spam yes nuked you do have to be careful with uh so flag review yes auto banning is is spooky i understand that as a weapon people will abuse it absolutely they will abuse it but that's why you have to review it. Yeah. No, for sure. And you said it the right way.

I have another one. Telegram Line of Sectives official one. They added a number. It's a different channel. And it's essentially the same thing. They're doing the price with the gift emoji. And just to validate that we do, do in fact have this setting enabled hopefully i'm not going to show you guys anything i wouldn't too horrible in the dashboard here i should be fine

um defaults hmm i don't actually is it channel guidelines welcome message okay oh example guidelines uh well here here's a good guideline no self-promotion or spam uh okay i actually don't know where in the dashboard this is i'm gonna go ahead and block what am i looking for here defaults ah yes here we go. Okay, so verified. This is in fact, this is in fact enabled. And yet, discard changes. Well, I didn't make any changes, smart guy. And yet here we are. So I found a block of them here from about three hours ago, where this Linus Tech Tips official Telegram account is just replying to people. And I can go in and i can hide user from channel still can't report it at the same time and so this one probably won't be there anymore oh that's so stupid i hate man inconsistent ui stuff drives me crazy every other site on the

entire internet you click the timestamp and it will load the page with that comment. No, I guess I'll click here. Sure. Why not? Let's do it differently because we're just different. This appears to still be here. So what just happened then? so what just happened then uh we do know that there's a like is that the exact one because we found line of tech tips official one as well so is there like a a special character these all

appear to be from the same one telegram line is tech tips official i don't remember which one i removed but let's see is this one still here and it's just, you know, at the volume, yeah, this appears to still be here, at the volume of comments that there are on a channel our size, and you'll see it on evergreen content in particular. It'll be on the brand new videos that were just uploaded and the old ones that still get a lot of views.

You can't, it's not manageable for us to moderate this stuff manually, unless there are tools. Like if the community could report it to us and it was as simple as going through a daily report being like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. Right, like that's manageable,

but we can't go digging for it. It's absurd. So anyway, this is all the evidence that I need night pause and floatplane chat said it's easier to kill a channel by using by falsely i'm adding some things here it's easier to kill a channel by falsely using dmca than it is to get rid of spam well there's been some there's been some controversies i haven't had the time unfortunately to look into some of the recent controversies in enough depth to talk about them oh here's another one telegram me at official linus sebastian all right you know what i will see if you just have like a cordial conversation with them yeah why

don't we just uh why don't we just why don't we just have a chat why don't we have a little chat you should you should call it oh is your telegram tied your phone number oh hold on i've got my i've got my drug dealer phone ah very nice very good i don't think it's charged though crap my iPhone's not charged may I please have a lightning charger thanks alright should we move on in the meantime

yeah let's move on in the meantime hold on I'm just gonna hide this user from the channel so yeah this is it's clear that what they're doing is not enough. My challenge to YouTube, go nuclear. Go nuclear.

Get rid of it. Slowly re-implement. Because that's the only way. Change one variable at a time. See, okay, does this, and the thing is is is you might say oh well that's that's too much it's too far well okay then we'll know soon enough won't we because there will be zero spam or maybe there won't be because that's the other outcome maybe they'll still be able to get around it maybe it turns out the nuclear option actually isn't even enough and they need to do

more but we won't know unless we actually do something and i don't think they've i don't think they've done enough it's starting to look like everywhere look at this look at this just every single comment and so whenever a youtube employee asks me oh can you please send me an example like look i don't want to be disrespectful use your own website for seconds do you even use the platform if you haven't experienced this spam and you haven't witnessed it being a problem the only conclusion i can come to is that you don't even use youtube like i don't know sometimes i get i get very i may have a reputation for getting quite fired up by things when i engage with youtube employees

and i feel bad about that i legitimately do i actually i i went off on here's another one here's a freaking another one i'm not even trying to look for them here it is same video how about we make them a comment moderator yeah for sure that would be good so it's so frustrating so i i went off on someone that as far as my knowledge goes is fairly influential in the mobile creator studio app because oh you have no issues with that at all because there have been a number of changes made that i whether this individual had any influence over them or not honestly it's hard to say because a lot of the a lot of the problems at youtube seem to be coming from somewhere higher,

is all I'll say. But I basically lost it. I was sitting here going, okay, I spent a bunch of time talking to you about this, laying out things that would be useful, like period over period comparisons is something that used to be in the Mobile creator studio app.

So I could easily see this month over last month, for example. Instead, they replaced it with this compared to your typical performance line. So it shows kind of what your typical range is for performance and then where you were relative to that. The problem for me is that I've experienced the shortcomings of the typical performance metric. Typical performance might look at some kind of rolling average of your last three or your last six months or something along those lines. And if you were at the low end of your typical performance six months in a row, guess what happened your channel got way smaller and you've got this little green check check mark in your in your dashboard that says everything is okay no it's not okay looking at month over month is the way that any functional business operates so you will look at

you'll look at period over period. You'll look at this period year over year. That's how you monitor trends. You don't monitor trends by going, oh, compared to typical. What is typical? I mean, if, okay, if you want to have a section of the dashboard

where I can define typical, where I can say typical is whatever my last 28 days was. I still don't think that's like well no it's obviously it's a stupid workaround to a problem that should have never existed anyway the point is i absolutely went off on this person i felt i felt terrible because i i know i know deep down that many of these changes probably nothing to do with this individual and they were they were either directives or just sort of general general directions that youtube is going like for example

there's far reduced visibility for dislikes yeah in the creator studio app and it's it's really frustrating because okay my workaround for this this this is a really good one. Okay, so let's go look at this. It used to be that I could see like-dislike ratio right here. So it was just like right when you click on a video. Kind of like a key metric of a video. It would be like right there because right after I publish,

that's one of the first things I look at. Okay, do people even like this thing? And because I'm comparing apples to apples, my own channel that uploads every day to my own channel uploading again today. It's just, it's a really quick and easy litmus test. Oh, well they moved it. Well, thanks for that. Now I get to click go to video analytics where it is conveniently not on the first page below the full, I get to go click engagement. And then finally I can see a ratio,

but not absolute values. i can only see a percentage now what do you what do you notice about this ratio this is a video that was published yesterday seems pretty high well that's channel average okay where's the actual ratio it says na doesn't it oh that's actually oh okay i was reading it completely wrong okay it takes there's a delay for it to populate now my workaround for this used to be that i could just that i could click the i could click the go to youtube icon in the creator Studio app in order to see analytics, right? And then I could go view it on the actual YouTube app, but guess what?

I can only view that if I'm logged in as that channel because I can't see dislikes anymore. And you might think it's not an inconvenience to be logged in as the actual channel because clearly I was in the creator studio. But because we have multiple channels, we actually have a multi-channel management tool where I am logged in as my work account. I have no way on my phone to see the like-dislike ratio of this video we uploaded yesterday. This is absolutely f***ing basic information that I need to do a f***ing job.

I love how when you're like, I went too far. Rant number three, baby. Let's go. The point is that I shouldn't have targeted an individual. I shouldn't have gone off on an individual. Now, in fairness, I didn't call names. Like, it wasn't like that. But I went after these problems in a way that made it seem as though I thought that they could immediately fix them. And clearly, I understand that they can't.

It's just, it's very frustrating. can't it's just it's very frustrating you know they're sitting there not solving real problems breaking solutions that i already had to my problems like i i just i i don't know how to i don't know how to i don't know how to talk about it anymore because i've asked nicely i've been happy to hear about the that that they plan to do better for HDR. Sure. But I have often thought that they have been going in very weird directions developmental wise. I've just. Just like working on really odd things, taking features away instead of adding features.

Like not doing things that you would hope for a company to do if you wanted to see that company grow. You know what I mean? It seems like they're trying to control their current user base more than they are trying to grow their user base. That might be because they think their user base is the entire world. Well, they're trying to go on. I'm somewhat correct about that. And they are trying to grow their user base, but it's through tools like Shorts, for example. It's not through necessarily, I don't know. I don't even know what to call this. I mean, how is it even possible

that in the analytics dropdown, there's no custom date range? How's it even possible in the year 2022? That's such a crazy list to go through. We've got seven days, 28 days, 90 days, 365 days, lifetime, June, May, April, March, February, January, December, 2021, November, 2021, October, 2021, September, 2021, August, 2021, and July, 2021. No custom. Why would I ever want to see a custom date range? Now, as I recall, and I'm a little rusty on this because it's been a while since they completely up the mobile creator studio, little rusty on this one, but I believe there used to be a way for me to just drag it. There definitely was on desktop, which was amazing because on the desktop one there was even a little bar below where you could see like a much larger time oh yeah and then you could take your highlighted period and you could move it

and do like a quick like okay what if i want to see one year over one year and you could get and all the analytics would just like immediately there's a bump here what was that yeah you could just go look at it it's very easy and and it would it would update everything below it like what the top viewed videos in that time it was like oh it was amazing then clamping down on social blade too well yeah i i have i have sent yet another polite request for them to give social blade proper api access again so they can store the data for longer than two years uh it's just it just sucks because these are, these are tools that we use to do our jobs. Right. And, you know, I get it.

Maybe, maybe you don't care about me doing a better job of making videos, but gosh, darn it. You probably should. That's probably should indeed. Sort of fundamental, you know, trying to find a type C port. Yeah, fundamental, you know? I'm trying to find a Type-C port. Yeah, no, I got this. I'm going to charge up my iPhone.

We mentioned it. Should we move on? Yeah, I guess so. I'm done. These are all conversations that I've had before. And instead of just, no offense, shouting into a vacuum because there's nothing you guys can do to fix it,

I've had these conversations with actual people who work on these actual tools and it's still been ineffective. And one of the really frustrating things has been that, you know how we did a video recently talking about the deplorable state of HDR on YouTube? So I already talked to you about how fires have been lit over there.

And now I'm hearing it from third parties that fires have been lit over there. Cool. Sort of. Because... It shouldn't take that? It shouldn't. I shouldn't have to make a video. I shouldn't have to.

I should say, hey, I'm a content creator on your platform. I'd like to think a pretty successful one. Here, I'm telling you. I'm telling you what I need. These are my tools. You actually don't use them. No offense. You don't use them.

Like talking to a YouTube employee. It's like when I was at NCIX and the president would have changes made to the product management team's tools and he and the developers would get together and have a meeting about how they should work. And then we'd get them and we're going, hey, there's extra clicks and you increase the loading time so that you can add this extra measure that I don't even use. Literally none of us use it. And then you won't revert it because now you've spent a bunch of, you've got this sunk cost

fallacy nonsense going on. You spend a bunch of money developing this feature. No, we don't want it. It actually made it worse. You have to talk to people who actually use the tools. I mean, one of the things I've been saying about the Mobile Creator Studio app for the longest time is it should be a one-stop shop for creation. I should not have to use the player app to upload a video, for example. I should not have to use the player app

to look at the comments on a community post, for example. And yet, I do. Why do i have to do that why are they not developing that i would even see it more acceptable if it like didn't work the other way around like if you were in the studio app and you wanted to watch a video and it like launched it in the player app i'd be totally fine with that but you should be able to do okay i don't even know but you should be able to do all of the creation and like analytic viewing and everything yeah where am i better like comment moderation tools yeah that should be in there in here yeah like it's just it's

infuriating like why can't i why can't i manage who my moderators are in here because apparently we need some apparently there's been some unruly stuff in in youtube chat today but i have no way to control that personally so oh my god here's another one telegram me at linus tech tips 20 yeah it's not working guys it's not good enough and you should have known that immediately oh yeah because you've already been trialing these features on channels like mine, where it's clearly not working. Why do I have to be the one to spell this out? Maybe you should hire me as an executive so I can come in and have an ounce of common sense. Hmm. If this isn't working in our limited trial, maybe it's not good enough. Maybe to determine if it's working or not, all I have to do is go look at a video.

That is the weirdest part. Like when the fact that they asked you for an example is actually astonishing because you can go anywhere on YouTube and they're just all over the place. So I don't know. It's very odd. Let's move on.

I was going to say, you done? Okay. I think we should mention that there's new stuff in the store thanks for watching thanks for you can go to hell but like i can't do this all day no what are we talking about new stuff in the store store. Oh, new stuff in the store. Okay, let's talk about cool stuff for a change. LTTstore.com. Oh, man.

Have we ever got some stuff for you guys? It's summer. Sun's out. Calves? Legs out. Calves out. Calves out? Yeah.

Man, my legs are pale. Knees out. But that's okay. Don't worry. Our shorts will not make your legs look as pale as mine. They've got waterproof zippers because that's just how we roll. YKK, baby.

They're made out of the same 100% cotton French terry fabric as our sweatpants. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this as Adam's employer, but I'd say they complement the assets. In my humble opinion, okay, in my humble opinion, we've got sizes from small all the way to 3XL. Don't forget that, oh, channeling my inner muscle man. Don't forget you can mouse over the picture. Oh, not all of them apparently. Some of them are, oh yeah, yeah. You can mouse over the picture. You can see who modeled them, what size they're wearing. That's a really, really cool feature.

We love zipper pockets around here. Good place to keep your phone. Is it my butt? That's my butt. Let's go. Is that your butt? I think so. Oh, nice butt.

Nice. Nice butt where you frat. It's not the greatest pickup line. While you're at it with your shorts, we've got two printed hoodies that i believe you've got one more week to order the hard drive hoodie please do not use this graphic it is not representative this one there we go we should make that the default graphic for it it looks absolutely flippin amazing in person the exploded hard drive, as well as we're doing a reprint of the processor

hoodie, which also gets a ton of comments. This one looks amazing. Absolutely amazing. So you guys can check those out. Really good reviews. Great hoodie. Glad I got a size up. Oh, import document declared. So I was charged tax. We review just so you guys know, we review all low star reviews and make sure we get in touch with people. By the way, we did come up with a plan for what to do about, oh, I didn't get my order. I didn't get my order. Like one star reviews when it was just like lost in the mail. There's nothing we can do about that.

What did we settle on? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're going to just do a respond feature. But it's going to take some time oh yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah so we'll just um i'm not sure if there was like some customer service back end stuff you're talking about or whatever but yeah in regards to the reviews it just replied also i think there may that that exists by the way oh we just have to implement it or what you just have to do it oh all right well i will uh yeah i'll have to talk to um nick about that they may not know how

by the way i just want to clarify something when i was talking about editing the reviews before i think there was a bit of a miscommunication because the way that okay for example i've edited people's posts on the forum before because i'm an admin and i have that power sometimes i do it to troll people but i would never make it seem as though the words came from that person so the way that i meant was in like old school forum style so their post would be there unedited and then it would say edit bold respond response from linus tech tips team this commenter said that we could say that we got this resolved and here's how we did it like it would be a response so essentially the response thing was exactly what i was asking for i think if they're yeah i just am dumb and didn't come up with that right well it exists so yeah so

anyway i just wanted to clarify that because there were some i saw i saw some comments on the forum and on twitter like man linus is really getting into shady business practices. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. I'm not making it seem as though someone said something they didn't. People are a little bit less cool with the comment editing stuff. Give me one quick second. Oh.

Oh, okay. Apparently Nick didn't know. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, you can reply. It's a thing. Whatever. I don't know. People are you can yeah you can reply it's a thing whatever i don't know people are less cool with the comment yeah yeah so like back in old school forum days that was standard and accepted but i think i think you can't do that on like reddit so now it's like super weird oh to say like edit blah blah whatever else really because i because that's

not that's not like a new internet thing. But that's the more transparent way to do it. No, I think it'd be a reply. A reply. But then it might not be seen. Whereas like, I'm not talking about editing the original... Because I mean, I believe in transparency. So I'm talking like you would leave the original post. No, I know.

I know. It's just if you... It's a line that can be crossed that now there could be suspicion of whether or not you are editing parts of the original post of anything, right? I guess so. But I don't know. Oh, apparently, no, you can self-edit on Reddit. No, you can self-edit. You can't edit other people's posts.

Oh, you mean like moderators. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, sure. You can self-edit you can't edit other people's yeah okay okay okay okay okay yeah sure you can self-edit on reddit um also there's the there's the jerry rig razor knife uh yeah so this is interesting we got in touch with zach jerry rig everything and we were all like hey we've got these giant desk pads. They're so big that it turns out this particular one is maybe makes more sense as a desk pad, as four desk pads. So I believe the one we're running the promo on is the 1.2 meter by 700 centimeter desk pad. This boy, this boy right here. If you pick up one of these,

so this one right here, let's go ahead and add that to cart. I believe it applies automatically. Bonus spin? Nope, I have no idea how this works. Oh, oh my gosh. Did we actually do it this way? Okay, apparently idea how this works oh oh my gosh did we actually do it this way okay apparently we just carry the jerry rig racer knife now so if you add the giant desk pad and a jerry rig

knife to your cart you will get your jerry rig for $0. You can use it to cut up your desk pad into four desk into four mouse pads. And you will also get a Jerry rig knife. So we reached out to Zach, we were like, hey, we've got this giant desk pad. We think, you know, for some people, it might make sense as four mouse pads, but they might not have a knife do you have a knife do you have hundreds of knives could we maybe buy hundreds of knives and he was like i got you but balder it was like that but much balder nice and musclier i mean you know how zach is right yeah uh so that's it that's the promo add the 1200 by 700 millimeter Northern Lights desk pad to your cart. Add the Jerry Rig knife to your cart in whatever color you like, and you will get the knife for $0 and four mouse pads. You should also pick up some other stuff that we actually make money on, please. That would be terrific. How about a water bottle or the new shorts or

one of the one of the hoodies the shorts are nice yeah i've stoked about the shorts actually uh oh wait a second did we launch the women's sweatshirts as well oh cool uh we also have the women's one so we have the unisex ones and the women's ones. Designed for all and relaxed fit, smooth front turn. Oh, wow. Look at that. Can I just say massive shout out to our staff for being such good sports about like modeling the merch? Like we get contributions across every sort of spectrum that you could possibly think

of. And I think it gives us a really cool vibe. There's so much more variety in our merch pictures. They're real people instead of just like- Yeah, it's not like one person who took a photo with a green screen shirt one time. Yeah. And then it's used on like every single product ever. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. As someone who gets kind of frustrated by the concept of clothes shopping online, because it's nice it's nice as someone who gets kind of frustrated by the concept of clothes shopping online because it's like how the heck is this gonna fit me ever um it's nice to be able to see

quite a range of like body sizes and types so i can figure out actually how something might fit me yeah foos king zero says i wouldn't model unless i was paid i mean to be clear they're all paid but but modeling the merch is not part of their regular job duties it's something that people just do because i mean our shooters do make it kind of fun actually yeah you kind of you kind of do like random stuff all the time kind of feel like a model you know it's yeah it's pretty fun yeah it was a good shoot shorts was a good shoot glad to hear it did you shoot with oh uh is our i think graphic designer off probation yet i don't believe so i was gonna say i think it's still a probo okay cool let's go ahead and jump

into our next topic shall we less cool news oh we should do some merch messages oh sponsors right okay well luke you go first a little card oh man well should we should we talk about i'm gonna highlight it it's above you can scroll up oh what scroll up a bunch i thought you were higher than you were oh yeah up a little bit oh down a little bit yeah there oh yeah let's uh we did allude to this earlier why don't you why don't you run through it um techno blade has died at 23 years old 23 the. The, yeah, crazy. The Minecraft community has gathered to remember Technoblade, a YouTuber with 11.9 million subs, who died at the age of 23 after announcing he'd been diagnosed with cancer in his right arm last year. While sick, he wrote a farewell letter, which was read by his dad in a YouTube video to his channel yesterday,

letter which was read by his dad in a youtube video to his channel yesterday uh titled so long nerds which remains at number one on youtube's trending page in the video technoblade reveals that his name is alex not dave which i think actually so funny they they pranked you gotta watch the video because there's a lot of other... Just, you gotta watch the video. But they pranked their audience by making them think that his name was Dave. They made it seem like Dave accidentally was leaked. It reminded me a lot of trying to essentially hide my address when I used to live in the basement suite. The same type of tactics. Yeah, I don't know.

Friend and co-streamer tommy in it posted a minecraft screenshot of an in-game note left by technoblade uh saying that having abolished all governments of men i have ascended to heaven to take on the kingdom of god which is just pretty epic um and hours after his death his family released planned merch um with the a portion of the proceeds will be going to the sarcoma which i believe is the type of cancer that he had um sarcoma foundation of america um and the planned merch is all like it's uh yeah like gg easy good game um yeah i've got it up now yeah so yeah this is the one i like the so long nerds one so long nerds that one's really good but yeah consider checking it out um portion of the

proceeds going to a good place and a portion of the proceeds is going to go to i'm assuming to to help his family which is also a good thing so yeah watch the video too yeah for sure i mean that's that's one of the ways that you can support them in this time. Watch the video, leave a comment. You know, that was something that affected my family more than, and actually me, more than I realized it would. When my grandpa passed, the one that we did the Grandpa Meets Google video with, there were many members of my family that just kind of sat and read the comments, just the outpouring of good vibes from the community. And it was just, it was very helpful for them. You

know, they just sat, thought of him, sat and, you know, read these positive, these positive messages of encouragement. It means a lot. So I would say that, you know, you don't have to spend money to support someone. Go leave a comment. Um, you know, watch the video. His, his dad hosted the video and like, that's gotta be an incredibly tough thing to do. Oh man. His dad hosted the video. And like, that's gotta be an incredibly tough thing to do.

Oh man. I can't even imagine. I host videos every day and I have no idea how I would even begin to host a video about my son passing at the tender age of 23. I do not want to outlive my kids, man. Tough dude. Like, like just watching him host that video

the whole time I was like holy cow the fact that like he can do this at all is yeah answer man yeah big agree yeah that one's rough I'm gonna come up with a good

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Since the start of LTT what milestones Have you had for the company and have you surpassed them are there any new milestones that you've set that uh you haven't crossed yet i mean the goal was four to five people and it being having enough revenue that we can all make like a real i want to have a real wage you know um that was it from there it went to i want to be a real, I want to have a real wage, you know? That was it. From there, it went to, I want to be a real company. And then, and Luke can attest to this. I did actually do the voice.

And I did actually say that like seven, eight, nine years ago. I've been saying it since very early. Definitely happened in that exact voice. Yeah. I want to be a real company. One million was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah.

One million was cool. 10 million was complicated. Honestly, didn't really care. Yeah. I did a lot of personal reflection at 10 million just because so much of my life has been poured into this. I'd say for me personally, my goal is for that real company to be able to function without me. That's the next level because there's a big difference between a CEO that is running a

successful company and a good CEO. And to me, just because this company is successful with me at the helm, doesn't actually mean that I built a good company. The true measure of a good company is that the culture and the hustle and survive with mismanagement, the decision making a good manager can survive without me. So that's really my next goal. And that's a big part of why labs is so important because right now I feel like it's my personal passion that drives a lot of the change in our content. And it's not just me.

There are different kinds of changes that are driven by different people. The camera department is notorious for constantly pushing me for better production values, for example. The HDR R&D that is being done here has not been done by me. I had a briefing with Ed on it today where I was like, oh, what have you been working on for the last while? And he showed me all the stuff that we've been doing, all the calls we've been having. We've been talking with YouTube. we've been having with we've been

talking with youtube we've been talking with adobe um you know learning how to how to use these tools it's like oh okay well cool we got keep at it right like but i feel like the that passion that drove me to stay up until the middle of the night replying to people's threads on the forum to make sure they didn't buy the right thing that's something that we don't have an obvious internal replacement for and our writers are great but you need that it has to it has to trickle down you know what i mean like like the the writers and the editors and the shooters they're not the the bosses of each other do you kind of get what i mean and so if you can't have an individual that is injecting that passion and that drive then what

you need is a department whose entire job is to have that drive. And so that's a big part of why labs exist. Or to pull something into more of an analytical space so that you can create actionable items instead of just forcing it to be passion all the time. Yes, exactly. Arm the team with the tools that make it easy to put that analysis into the work that they do. And the lab is not just for video reviews.

The lab is for consumers. The lab is for our business team. Man, one of the first things I want the lab doing once they are fully set up is vetting sponsors. I mean, when we have a charger company come in and say, okay, we've got a 65-watt charger. It's this small. Make sure. And if it's 66 watts, then let's talk about that. And if it's 64, well, then we're changing the

talking points, damn it. And like, I just, I, I feel like it's, it's the solution to so many, maybe not necessarily problems, but, but future potential pitfalls having that having that team in place and and building out that that infrastructure yeah uh what was i supposed to be talking about right now this was a merch message do you have any milestones that you haven't hit or is there yeah well that's new milestones yeah i think i think that was voiced yeah we're good yeah that one cool from michael i'm working on making my house smart but would like to air gap most items what are your thoughts on smart locks i don't have any smart locks um do you want your lock to be picked physically or through software or both what difference does it make quite frankly there's

going to be security vulnerabilities with both 100 there's this quote from someone i don't remember who and i'm going to misquote it so i'm sorry because you probably said it better than i did whoever said it but it's like there's something along the lines of like software engineers want like like traditional locks because they know the software is not secure and like people who are good at like machining and mechanics and stuff want smart locks because they know the software is not secure. And like people who are good at like machining and mechanics and stuff want smart locks because they know the mechanical locks are insecure. There's problems with both. Just try to find, I don't know.

There's some creators on YouTube. Lockpicking Lawyer is a fantastic one. There's other ones as well that review this type of stuff. Just try to find the best thing you can yeah from trey interesting oh sorry wrong message from ridge hey love you guys been watching since the ncix days a couple weeks ago you mentioned a potential compatibility issue with your harmony remote i'm also in need of a replacement but not sure what to buy would you consider doing a roundup or have you done any research we actually got this question three times today about my remote yeah uh my harmony remote

the compatibility issue that i ran into was that the database entries are not really getting updated anymore because logitech doesn't give two hoots about Harmony because they don't even sell the products anymore. So it was a Marantz slash Denon. I don't remember the actual brand on it, but it's like their parent that makes their receivers. It was this little HDMI 2.1 switcher that is meant to add more HDMI 2.1 inputs to those first gen HDMI 2.1 receivers that don't have a ton of inputs, which is like stupid because that's the whole point of the receiver, right? So it's a really cool product. It's this pretty inexpensive. It's just a few hundred dollars. And I think it's three inputs, one output. And it was a really good way to have a PC, Xbox and PlayStation 5 all running HDMI 2.1 to a 2.1 TV.

And the cool thing is you don't even need their receiver to use it, even though all of their marketing materials say it's an accessory for the receiver. I can tell you from personal experience, it totally works without it. Goodbye. Anyway, it's not in the database whereas the old model is now i was able to train it you can you can add something new manually but that's a hassle that not everyone wants to deal with and i suspect that as the software continues to not get updated it's going to get more and more difficult to use like their desktop software clearly hasn't been touched since like oh i don't know windows eight days maybe this vista it's a it's a really clunky interface and it takes a it's very time consuming to use one that i have not used yet

but i have one sofa baton sent over there i believe it's called sofa baton x1 it's a fantastic name x1 yeah i believe this is the one that they sent over. Boop. To be clear, I'm not endorsing it. I have not used it yet, but I have heard good things. This appears to be the spiritual successor to Harmony. I do intend to try it because I want to have universal remotes at each watching location just so that like my kids or or like it's little things you know the babysitter is over we're out the kids are in bed like yeah sure like watch tv i don't i don't care sorry mr sebastian can't figure out how to turn on your tv like that's that sucks that's stupid no so it's it's nice to have a universal remote right guess i'll just sit here yeah i guess

i'll just stare at the wall i mean she brings her homework but like whatever summer there's no homework okay you want some tv like it's nice if they're if they're able to use it so that's the one that i'm aware of next from david i know in your home theater setup you had to raise the second row up did you figure out a solution yeah the solution is a big plywood box we actually had an outlet wired into the top of it so that the powered couches can plug in and then the backing covers it so the whole thing is super clean it's got a single stair so it's one stair and then up it's 13 inches and then we carpeted it and stuffed the whole thing with uh rock wool so that helps that helps prevent it from creating like a reverberation chamber in the middle of the room. Yeah, seems great.

Makes sense. From Kevin, any thoughts on HPE announcing the ProLiant RL300 ARM server this week? Do you think we'll see a video on the channel talking about the server or thoughts on ARM in the data center space? Oh, server...

Server applications are extremely difficult to benchmark in a meaningful way because so often the companies that use them are running their own software that is completely proprietary and even if it did have benchmarking tools they are not available to the general press and wouldn't be because to even run those benchmarking tools you would are not available to the general press and wouldn't be because to even run those benchmarking tools, you would have to probably be a developer. That's the problem. There are outlets that do it, in my opinion, great job of covering server hardware. And I think this is one of those situations where we're just going to leave it to them. Maybe go check out serve the home. I'm sure that they have some thoughts on it it it's something you might see from us in the future but right now

we are focused on consumer and then server to the extent that it touches on our own business yeah thanks the move the move away from x86 is going to be good, but I'm a little wary about how ready we are. Hyper-specialized situations, like maybe what it's doing is going to work really well with it. If that's the situation that it's deployed in where they know it's going to work really well with it, that's fantastic.

But I don't think we're like, as an industry, I don't think we can just like flip over right away or anything. This message is from Jonathan, but also a few others. On June 21st, 2019, you predicted that Microsoft Windows would be free in three years. Do you have an update on this prediction post-pandemic? I mean, it was sort of a cheat of a prediction because functionally using Windows

does not have to cost money. Microsoft has eased off of their piracy protections to such a degree that it is pretty clear that they don't care. It's also really funny. If you Google buy Windows 11 in the sidebar... Oh, not even sidebar. The last time I did this, it was in the sidebar oh not even sidebar the last time i did this was in the sidebar right here 23 from turnkey point i'm sure they could get this taken down but they don't the the reality of it is microsoft wants the whole world running on Windows. That is far, far more important to them than collecting $100 from custom PC builders.

They want Windows to be the standard so that companies like HP and Dell will buy licenses in enormous volumes. You got to understand. They want to sell business licenses. They don't care about selling them to you. You got to understand. They want to sell business licenses. They don't care about selling them to you. You got to understand, guys, the custom PC space is this tiny splinter in the eye of these companies.

We are the loudest, most obnoxious minority. We're lucky they bother listening to us at all because from a business standpoint, we don't matter. Also also such an obscene percentage of people in this space just pirate it anyways yes so like like we suck but in my i think my theory my theory for why we're getting a new prediction to us okay is that we're influencers we're the recommenders. Exactly. Everyone watching this show right now is an influencer.

It's very likely that if you're watching this, you are like the tech person for your family. So if Microsoft or Intel or AMD or NVIDIA mess with you too bad, well, you're going to stop recommending their stuff and that multiplication effect, it ain't worth it. it ain't worth it so no microsoft hasn't officially gone free to play with windows 11 but i'm not backing down it's clearly happening

there's more and more ads and uh more and more ads and adjacent services included with Windows. You look at the way that Xbox Game Pass is advertised when you do a fresh Windows install. They are clearly on the trajectory. I just got the timeline wrong. There. From Daniel, any updates on the CellFi cell repeater installation it's been good i have cell reception at my house i don't know what to say about it other than that you know if i have a

wi-fi issue for whatever reason i can flip over to mobile data and it works and if people call me i can hear them and they can hear me i think it's one of those things cell repeater is such a non-sexy it's a it's a thankless installation yeah it gets there it works right away you're like sweet and then you never think about it again never think about it not even once more yeah and if it doesn't work then you're really mad it's like a lot of um it's like a lot of it work and like server work stuff in general it's like you don't want to like invest a ton in it you don't want to care about it and stuff and then it stops working or something goes down and you're like oh we need to solve this no we need to throw

everything on this okay i will say one positive thing about this haircut it is very easy like when i'm mad to get this vibe going oh my goodness same same energy for sure from ryan yeah just watch the vidcon vlog on flowplane it was great i know you have ltx but have you ever considered having a booth or hosting a panel at broader events like vidcon no no that sounds like a lot of work we have ltx i mean yeah the thing is i just i know you are gonna come at me about this but oh i'm ready i don't even know what it is in-person promotions why in-person yeah like it's just it seems like an utter waste of time i think in-person promotions

of you or like a youtube channel i would agree because i know you've gone after intel for abandoning packs for example they are maintaining a, and they are. Maintaining a booth there. And they are wrong about that. Okay. But I don't think you need to have a booth there. So, well, okay. But you got to remember, I'm not just me anymore. I don't think Linus Tech Tips. There's 80 people.

I don't think Linus Tech Tips needs to have a booth there. Who work for Yvonne Umbrella Corporation. There's been a few creators that have, like. work for i have been umbrella corporation there's been a few creators that have like there's been a few creators uh that have had booths at shows before and i've been like why are you why because how many people can you possibly hope to reach with a physical presence dozens hundreds thousands ten thousand maybe there's also a medium thing right like you create or the company whatever right because we're not talking about you specifically linus media group and all the derivatives that create that's we need a name for that um

they create videos they create online content if you go to youtube you're there to see their stuff right yeah you don't go to these places to find products, to find new companies, to find peripheral things. And it's also like, I'm not going to go to a show and be like, okay, I'm going to evaluate Linus by his handshake. I might go to a show to evaluate Corsair keyboards by how it is to type on them.

Yeah, okay. Like there's reasons why these companies should be in these places and I don't think it's the same as the Corsair. Yeah, okay. Like there's reasons why these companies should be in these places and I don't think it's the same as the first. Well, should we be there with our merch? That increases, like, yeah, having a pop-up shot at a certain thing could make sense.

I mean, it's low-key, an enormous part of our business. No, that could totally make sense. I don't necessarily think we should have like a personality panel that might be something that you could do to draw attention to that booth in the exact same way that other companies might hire an influencer

creator whatever right to bring attention to a booth it might be the same thing effectively it would actually be really funny if you just hired other creators to bring attention to the ldd store booth um you know that we're doing some influencer marketing around our products right yeah like we have uh i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to name the names i want it to be a surprise but we have like wan hoodie promotions going up on other influencers channels we definitely have some stuff lined up for screwdriver launch like it's going to be amazing yeah uh by the way far now over in over in Floatplane Chat, okay, hear me out. What about Yvonne and Partners?

Not liking that name. I think it's great. Got something to tell me? I'm seeing... Partner implies two. That's not really a partnership. You don't have partners, Yvonne. That's not really a partnership. You don't have partners, Yvonne. Why don't we jump into our next topic?

Intel's Blockscale CryptoMiner is out early. They finally shipped their Blockscale ASIC. It was originally slated for Q3 release, codename Bonanza Mine. Secure hash algorithm, it's a secure hash algorithm, 256 hardware accelerator that can do up to 580 gigahash per second

with just 4.8 to 22.7 watts of power consumption. That is freaking incredible. It's 14.2 millimeters squared, which is actually a pretty tiny die, meaning each wafer can produce a theoretical 1250 chips and is manufactured on the cutting edge TSMC N5 process. This thing sounds freaking awesome. If it was six months ago.

I think, I don't know know i think that take is wrong and maybe this is a hot take really i think take me baby i think it's still fine that it comes out now i did a tech link today and i said what was in the thing and then i came here and i saw this and i was like okay now i can throw my own spin on this. And I don't think, I don't think it's too late. Really? I think these will fly. You think they will fly? I think they will fly. Well, okay. For one thing, the cryptocurrency industry is clearly in need of some more efficient hardware if prices have crashed. Yeah. Because like a lot of the, like discourse that I've seen online, a lot of the prop like discourse that i've seen online a lot of the problem is that the calculation of performance per watt is just not there now it's not people

being like oh i don't want to do this anymore it's oh right now technically if i turn my machines on i'm losing money which is a situation that crypto mining has been in multiple times in the past. Because difficulty ramps or whatever, right? Now, this topic was populated, was filled out by Nicholas Plouffe, who did some very helpful math. Thanks, Plouffe. You should be a writer for LTT for a living. One of the issue, I mean, aside from the fact that there was a crypto crash and investment in the space is going like like this is that intel talked a lot about the energy

efficiency of this of this asic um over a thousand times the performance per watt but the issue is that they compared themselves to discrete gpus which is fine for certain algorithms but compared to dedicated asic miners is not very good and according to ploofs math the new bonanza mine block scale asic from intel seems to be worse than a an ant main bitcoin miner s19 xp hydro that's not necessarily going to matter too much um did he do a wattage calculation yeah so what's the difference that miner is 255 terahash per second at 5300 watts and 256 of Intel's chips would be 148 terahash per second at 5,800 watts. Oh, there's less power vision. So then cost will just be the equation. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing about that industry is it's all just down to cost. It's funny. I saw

a tweet today. Someone was saying like, oh, it turns out that a big part of the silicon shortage was mining because apparently there's just like in certain industries did we not know that inventory is piling up and i was tagged on uh yeah anyone who's been paying even sort of attention like and i'm one of the people tagged obviously knew this yeah um but yeah like you're you're in an industry where it's all just money driven it's a calculation what you're attempting to buy is a money printing machine yeah but that money printing machine money very well then you won't buy it that money printing machine costs money to buy and it costs money to run so it's it's a fairly simple calculation so they

they need if they can get their initial cost really low, then there's potential value there. And if you can find customers where their power is cheap or whatever, they have some way of generating their own power, who knows. If the initial cost is low, maybe they'll be interested in buying your product. If AntMine is sold out like they always are. Yeah, Bitmain never builds enough inventory. Then maybe you will have inventory at all so they'll sell out i yeah i don't know the calculation that it's worse is kind of funny um but i i still and i didn't know that when i was trying to defend it but i still kind of suspect

that they'll they'll probably fly because there's a lot of people that are still mining there's a lot of people that still have profitable mining operations as well, which I think a lot of, like, I've just said a lot of people a lot of times, but I think people are looking over that because it's more fun to look at the, like, the wasteland. Yeah, people who are flipping all their GPUs on eBay right now. But that is not everyone. There are people that were more prepared to weather the storm.

And I think just because the gold rush is over, I don't think mining is going to end. I think people are going to find a way to exist in the new environment. And yeah, we'll see. PSA, I would like people to stop making assumptions about the ltd screwdriver until we actually deliver it we posted a picture on the ltd twitter handle like of the components blow up yeah and i have just seen the most wild assumptions i've seen everything from the ratchet mechanism is

not durable which you would have absolutely no way whatsoever of evaluating because you cannot see it to that the handle will not stay attached to that you will be able to twist the handle because to that you will be able to twist the handle because there's not enough of a flange to the oh man what was one of the other like really really wacky ones i saw um oh i don't remember but guys it's been in development for two and a half years. Do you think we've just been twiddling our thumbs? We have the concept for the pop-up shop all locked in. We are hoping that the pop-up shop will happen sometime in the next month to month and a half. At that time, you will be able to in person,

assuming you're in Vancouver, you'll be able to in person, feel it, screw things in with it, screw things out with it. We will have drivers from competing brands on hand. You can try them all out for yourself. Until then, maybe just shut up. That might be good. Rather than compare a thing that you've never held in it's a tool there's a lot more to it than what you can convey in a picture it has to feel good it has to like it it has to be durable it has to just stop your poll is terrible i didn't make that poll they've been twiddling their thumbs yes no i won't tell okay i have to know floatplane come on guys i've had enough of you guys anyway the point

is the point is we're gonna get people to try it in person our intention is to have live stream cameras there have i talked about that yet yeah i think that was my idea is to have live stream cameras there have i talked about that yet yeah i think that was my idea we will have live stream cameras there where real customers will be able to give their real impressions of it and just i am so winter stasis over on twitch yeah 4chan says it's a rebranded generic screwdriver sorry bro yeah exactly exactly that's you know what there I'll admit it that's what it is thank you 4chan it took how many years

of development to rebrand I'm really glad that you guys were there to tell me what happened over the last two and a half years here lobster roll says wow damn we pay you this is how we're treated how did you guys treat me okay did you consider that how you treated me 58 of you said or 76 of you said yes we've been twiddling our thumbs rude so rude they're almost as rude as luke zatharian says snap-on will be there too absolutely oh we'll be there to check

it out oh no i mean well we'll have their screwdrivers there they don't need to come and bring them but they can bring more if they like that would actually be really convenient there's there's been a couple comments in the chat it took them a really long time to find the right font for the rebrand logo yeah exactly yeah years and engineers you had to put some like some real engineering work into that font. There's been a couple comments about the poll. I just wanted to point out a few things. The mobile version is coming.

It's not here yet, but the mobile version is coming. And we have some other kind of like feature ideas. Right now, the admin of the channel, because this is going to be rolled out for all creators, the admin of the channel can see all polls that have ever happened on the channel who created them and who closed them and all that type of stuff in an admin panel um but right now that's not viewable for the users so we're we're trying to figure out like the best way to maybe do that i know like twitch polls and youtube polls they just go, which is how the floatplane poll currently works.

Right. But we've been thinking like maybe once it's closed and done and the timer fades and all that type of stuff, it could like migrate under the player or something. I don't know.

But right now it will fade after the poll goes up. But yeah. It's a well-known fact that engineers are bad logo designers. It's true. Maybe we should have hired a graphic designer and we would have been able to bring this thing out a lot sooner

oh man i just yeah it it makes my brain hurt because people will say no it's a it's a it's gonna be a bad product because it's from an unproven company it's like well hold on a second we licensed ip from megapro they've been been around forever. Their drivers have held up fine, just fine. So there's the people that will say it's unproven. It's like, well, no. And then there's the people that say it's just rebranded. But also, well, no. Have you noticed that it looks absolutely nothing like a mega pro driver like nothing like it yes it uses some of their patented mechanisms like the bit loader um and we sort of used their ratchet at this point we've basically redesigned it but we definitely paid to use it um so it's it's it's

somewhere it's somewhere in between because you're not allowed to just build something that uses other people's patented technology unless you license it so yeah it's it's a combination of things but yes it will it will take the things that give good reliability to it from megapro and it will take the things that we think make it a great screwdriver especially for building computers and uh add those to it. All right. What else we got to talk about today? NVIDIA released the GTX 1630, a dumb card that no one asked for. Okay. We have asked them to stop editorializing

quite so much in these talking points, right? They're not wrong though. We have. NVIDIA threw Intel a bone by taking the prize for most pathetic gpu of 2022 with the release of the gtx 1630 yes not 30 30 or 2030 but 1630 geforce 10 series is still here sorry 16 series the specs are turing architecture 512 cuda cores 1785 megahertz boost, four gigs of GDDR6 and a 64-bit memory bus. It costs a whopping $200 from EVGA, $169 from other manufacturers. Nice. And it's about 33%

slower than AMD's RX 6400 and the GTX 1650, meaning virtually every other card will get you more performance per dollar than this. Meanwhile, the 1650 Super was released for $10 less back in 2019. This was clearly a solution to yesterday's problem today. Priced for a different market. Yeah, there's been a lot of that. A lot of solutions

that came like almost exactly too late it's like it takes lead time and engineering to make things it's crazy um but yeah i think what's what card was it back in the house there was a rant video about a graphics card that i believe was a 30 series graphics card. It was AMD. It was the 5450, if I recall correctly. Let's see if my HD 5450. Let's see if my recall is good. That was an Nvidia card. Oh, no, I screwed it up. No, it's not the 5450.

I thought it was like a 7030 or something. I don't know about that. Oh, NGPU, Linus. Are they still? Oh, well, there was a second one. Okay, so the first one was an R7 240. That was shot back at the house. Okay, that's the one I'm talking about, though.

Not mine. I'm not talking about mine. Oh, okay. But that one with the AMD card, I already forgot the model whatever it's very forgettable r7 240 um that one was like i really liked that video and that video for me was was somewhat affirming of like you know i know i think we're getting pretty good at this that was that was a that was a pretty key moment for me, actually. And people are still buying them. Yeah.

A low-end GPU never makes sense. And I'm sorry, it just doesn't. People have been, the comment section is so mad. They're so, so mad about that video. Well, what about if you just need more display outputs for an office monitor? Then pick up something worse. A low-end gaming card is always the worst buy yeah well what if i can't afford something better then buy something

second hand or second hand buy something second hand we're not telling you to we're not telling you to just get more money we're telling you to spend it like not an idiot yeah and hopefully less of it yeah because that's like one of the biggest problems is they're they're expensive for what they are i just uh it makes me so it makes me so angry the performance per dollar is so low can we not just can we not waste money please we should definitely we should definitely revisit i'm i'm making a note I'm making a note here Huge mistake, huge success What's the line

Need to re We're just going to redo that video in 8k Redo the low end GPUs Video again Because people clearly haven't gotten the point I think that'll be a solid intro I wouldn't have to make this video if you guys got the point the first two times.

And yet, this product exists, so here we are. Let's go. That's actually not bad. I should just open it like that. Hey, Bell, can you clip that and just send it to me? I'll just throw that right in the script. That's pretty good. Pretty solid.

No, you didn't miss the telegram thing i think i have telegram now oh that's test flight sorry i saw i saw t and immediately went for it to be fair like from here and that screen's really good so i can actually see it pretty well i thought that was telegram as well your phone i don't know my phone number this is my uh this is my drug dealer is it in the about of your phone or whatever you're setting somewhere i don't know iphones i yeah i don't know it's got to be in here somewhere general about here we go well definitely got my carrier in there you want to figure that out while i do a topic yeah sony launches pc peripherals i know right new in zone brand has launched with a monitor and a headset an m9 which is a 900 27 inch 4k

144 hertz ips monitor which has 96 dimming zones hdr 600 and auto hdr tone mapping m3 which is a 530 27 inch i'm not going to go through all of these, but there's a M9, M3, H9, which is their wireless headset. H7, which is wireless as well, but not as fancy. H3, which is wired. I've seen a complaint from a few people. I think this is in the doc as well, that the wired headset has too short of a cable, which is, you know, that can be annoying, has too short of a cable which is you know that can be annoying but you can also extend those so it's not exactly the end of the world either um and they're like very easy and very cheap and not cumbersome to expend as well or extend as well i will say that kind of mind-blowing sonia didn't do it earlier hey yeah i think it's cool i'm down with this i don't think it's a bad thing

apparently the monitor's really solid. I'm not surprised. I mean, it's like they know display technology. They know audio technology. Sony is one of those really funny companies to me where they have all this expertise and then just kind of decide not to use it, it feels like, you know?

Like they're actually surprisingly limited in the in the space of well less now uh but they have been limited in the in the space of products that they actually do make um and they used to have like stores they used to have dedicated stores i don't know if they still do that like they're just kind of different approaches to things um but yeah people are reviewing things so far fairly positively. Sondergaard thought the headsets were solid, but too short of a cable. Yep, yep, not surprised.

Ploof likes the M9. I'm thinking Bob Saget for my username. Nice, do it. No, you should just make it like Linus and be like, hey, it's me. Oh. What are you doing? You want me to do that? I think so.

Well, I wanted to tell them that I like like i wanted to ask them what i won okay yeah i was just going for like straight confrontation oh you want to confront well i don't know but why don't we pull floatplane okay okay all right if you guys want to participate in the poll you better sign up for floatplane really fast you're not gonna have extremely quickly you should sign up for floatplane we've had so many amazing behind the scenes over there don't don't take my word for it float plane subscriptions have been going stonks lately just because of the awesome content that the social team has been putting up there it's it's been kind of amazing great job guys guys. We've got another topic that I can do in the meantime. The week of SSD shenanigans featuring the M2 13-inch MacBook Pro and the Steam Deck. Early reviews of the M2 13-inch MacBook Pro have shown the SSD in the base model is half the speed for reads and 30% slower for writes than the same laptop with an M1. This appears to be

due to the M2 version having a single 256GB NAND flash module instead of two 128GB ones. The latter config can enable reading and writing in parallel across both chips, increasing performance. Unfortunately, the slow SSD also appears to act as a bottleneck thanks to Apple Silicon's unified memory, so the base 8 gig M.2 model can take close to twice as long to complete certain intensive tasks compared to the same laptop with 16 gigs of RAM.

This is the kind of thing that just like Apple has no excuse for. Like they shamelessly just charge a lot, which is fine, but then they should just build a lot. Like it should just be good. Yeah. Meanwhile, Valve also, stealthily, downgraded the SSD in new Steam Deck models, lowering

bandwidth from PCIe Gen 3x4 to 2x2. Valve says there is no impact on performance, but that still sucks, Valve. You should still have said something because people rely on independent reviews to get an idea of how a product is, it can be expected to perform in the real world. And you, you went, you participated in that ecosystem, you, you seeded review units. So now to maintain your transparency, you, you have to talk about how the new ones aren't going that, how that wasn't representative of what you've actually delivered. Now, I believe you that there's no impact on You have to talk about how the new ones aren't going, how that wasn't representative of what you've actually delivered.

Now, I believe you that there's no impact on performance because, I mean, I've seen games launch off of a flippin' micro SD card without there being a big impact on performance. So yeah, Gen 3x2 is still flippin' a lot more bandwidth than a micro SD card, but it still sucks. Also, also, a deck designer said, Lawrence, Lawrence Yang, I think. Hold on, why don't I just click the thing?

Yeah, Lawrence Yang. Deck designer said, please do not do this in response to a mod that was posted replacing the deck's 2230 sized SSD with a larger 2242 size drive as it apparently affects the cooling situation the original modder apparently agrees which i think is pretty funny that is mod at your own risk i am taking risk and working on this as a proof of concept that's really funny uh i mean yeah fair enough it's worth noting that lawrence did not say not to cut a hole in the back of your steam deck and bolt a cooler to the back of it yeah still going ahead who's the steam deck modder king now by the way the poll ended uh 43 57 uh 43 57 in favor of direct but i will say

you probably have a higher chance of them responding if you don't go direct. Yeah. I'm going to go not. Well, wait. So what did they vote for? Direct. Okay. Well, we have to do what Flowplane says.

I mean, they do like pay your salary. Okay. So in that regard. Okay. So I'm going to add a picture. Allow access. I would call them. All photos.

Call them. Yeah. Okay. So here, hold on. I'm going to add a picture allow access i would call them all photos call them yeah okay so here hold on i'm going to take a quick picture wait what how does this this is so stupid what is this interface does this not look like i should be here i click the camera does this not look like i should be able to take a picture well he does what why am I not? Hello? I don't understand. Why are computers hard to use? Start fake and then go direct. What are computers? That is the standard.

The standard is to start fake and then go direct. Start fake and then go direct. Well, yeah, but I'm not going to be able to. I mean, if it's the username, right? Like, here, let's just. They're not going to respond yeah so i mean so then make it fake okay so bob saget then yeah rest in peace yeah okay a bunch of people tried to dude we should do that more often i've still got my own profile

picture though a bunch of people tried to beat the, we should do that more often. I've still got my own profile picture, though. A bunch of people tried to beat the race. An error occurred. And they signed up for Flowplane, but they didn't make it in time for the poll. Oh, seriously? I told you guys. I mean, you should sign up anyway.

Is Bob Saget a blocked name? Or does someone else already have it? Bob... Oh, no, that shouldn't matter. That shouldn't matter. Lots of people have the same name. Bob McBobberson? This shouldn't be so hard an error occurred please try late what air by signing up you agree to the terms of cert what i do i have

to put my real name is it gonna like does it have some way of checking is it checking my phone to see if it's my real name an error occurred please try that way to go telegram okay for real though maybe i'm an idiot did i do it wrong you you try it floaty mcfloat plane i do like that uh in the meantime let's talk about from a google engineer's perspective why g suite versus the non-business non-paid free versions of Google services don't work the same. I think this person's anonymous, so I'm not going to name them, but everything they said sounded pretty reasonable. I will start by saying I will give you reason. I don't think it's a good excuse, but it should at least give you some insight.

I'm a software engineer working on, I'm not going to say exactly what they work on, within the workspace organization, and I'm a primary privacy advocate for some product. So I have firsthand experience as to why it is so dumb. The primary reason that business versus non-business accounts can't share data is due to the differences in our privacy policy between these accounts.

A business account cannot have any of its data used for ads or product development and cannot have any of its data used for machine learning models that aren't specific to that account. Fair enough. Video suggestions is a good example of an account specific model where each account has a model that is trained for that account's suggestions, but for consumer accounts, everyone's data feeds into a single model. Fair enough. The reason this causes problems with sharing data between consumer accounts and business accounts comes down to laziness. Lack of effort. If a consumer account, for example,

asks for Google Assistant to do something, the logs and events are used to further train the assistant models. If they ask to do something and the device you events are used to further train the assistant models. If they ask to do something and the device you're interacting with is owned by a business account, we have to take special precautions not to use that specific data for the models. Since even the name of the device is considered personally identifiable information, and that chunk of audio can't be used in models, because our systems are so large and complex. And due to the way success is measured for projects, doing the necessary work to filter that data is an afterthought and not typically worth the effort in some engineers' minds. I disagree with this approach. Google takes in these cases, with the approach Google takes in

these cases, but do appreciate that we take users' data privacy seriously within workspace. and I can't speak for ads or any other org that's a good disclaimer right there I just wish we followed through better and I'm constantly filing bugs internally and advocating for these same things that you rant about it's just a lot of people to convince and a lot of money at stake so yes that is an explanation but it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's an, yeah, it's a bad excuse and it sucks because I am a paying freaking customer and it doesn't make sense that my G suite account should have limited functionality compared to a flippin ad supported free account. What is this? what is this uh oh my god well apparently we're supposed to build someone

build someone a six-figure computer nice okay i'm not going to reveal anything other than that so you guys will you figured it out what did you do i don't know oh did you just keep doing the same things and it just eventually worked or what uh i exited out of what you had been doing and then i needed the phone number and i didn't want to bother you so i just called myself got the phone number put the phone number in and then it just like worked i don't know okay oh does not have access to your contacts okay for crying out loud let's just let's go let's go uh okay i i don't actually have any of those up anymore do you have any of those up anymore uh no no uh okay well it shouldn't be that hard to find oh no never mind i've got one which which one was it at the linus tech was that the one that we wanted to do?

It was Telegram Linus Tech tips official. I think it was it. Is that right? I think so. Can anyone remember? Chat, what's up? Who are we? How do I even? Oh, okay, cool. So you can just search. I don't use Telegram much, but so you can just search for an at. I don't use Telegram much, but so you can just search for an at. There's at least a couple. I searched for at the Linus Tech and there's at the Linus Tech tips and at the Linus Tech. At the Linus Tech appears to be one of the ones that just posted.

So let's wait. Oh, crap. I searched for the wrong one. Here we go. Okay. At the Linus Tech. Dang it. I feel like a boomer right now.

At the Linus Tech. Oh, that is the one. No messages here yet. Okay. So I'll go with, hi. I saw I won a prize. I'm very excited. How can I get the prize? Should I spell it price?

I like it. I like it. No, I'm going to spell it right. I'm going to spell it right. Okay. How do I, how do I, can I just like call someone? Do I have to have them as a, oh, I can call them. Should I call them?

Sure. Okay. All right. I'm going to call them. I'll call them. Okay. Telegram would like access to your microphone. Okay. Here right. I'm going to call them. I'll call them. Okay. Telegram would like access to your microphone. Okay.

Here we go. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Did they hang up? Oh, what? Man, they canceled the call. What if they, like, know? How do I get you my information? Okay, well, oh, last seen eight hours ago. That makes sense.

Probably in a different time zone. Well, we could try one of the other ones. There's plenty of Linus Tech Tips apparently here. There's definitely more. I can hunt for more of them. Do you want to do some merch messages? Yeah, sure. I'm hunting.

Oh, here's Linus Tech Tips. line oh you're just like searching for them yeah i saw i won a prize hold on hold on uh hold up okay come on siri help me out oh crap crap siri help me out it now says i didn't even know i entered the contest period what did i win question mark oh let's add another let's add another question mark let's add three okay last seen yesterday apparently this is edwin not trying to be very convincing here. Oh, man. This is such a bummer.

Little did you know, Edsel's just been working on the side. Yeah, it's literally Ed. It's like, my alter ego, Edwin. This is the version of me that wins all the time. Get it, Ed? But win, like prizes? Ha! Okay.

Sure. Why don't you hit me with some rich messages, Bill? To confirm, did you finish all your thoughts on the Google account types? Yeah, that was it. It's stupid. I hate it. But thank you for the explanation. I appreciate your honesty.

That's sort of, yeah. I think you come to that conclusion. but just big company doing big company things. Yeah, that suck. Speaking of big company, Tim asks, with GPU prices dropping, is it a good time to get into VR gaming? Are there any headsets you would recommend? Yes, and no, it's Facebook. But like, get a Quest 2. Sorry.

Man, nothing else touches that value per dollar when did that come out quest 2 a couple years ago yeah is there a quest 2 rumors quest 3 you mean that's what i meant sorry um i think so they have been showing off a ton of headsets from ar to professional ones yeah yeah i was gonna say like it might actually not be the greatest time. You might want to wait until the next step comes out. Yeah, but it's also like $300. Like it's not like it used to be where you were spending $1,000. Yeah, but $300 is still a lot of money. I know, but the depreciation is not going to be what it was.

It'll still be worth something. Like if you were buying a first-gen headset and you were spending like six seven eight hundred us dollars only to have it immediately be worth half as much yeah that is terrible whereas if you buy something for three hundred dollars and something better comes out but that three hundred dollar thing is only going to depreciate by at worst maybe a quarter like it'll still be worth something used it's standalone depends how much like it's just not going to hurt you as much extra cash you have going into a

recession and a used quest 2 is still going to be the low bar for entry into vr they're not going to undercut it i mean i guess it's possible there There's no way though. There's no way they undercut it. So I just don't see it as nearly as, I don't see it as high risk of maneuver as it used to be. I was trying to read this article about like Quest 3 release dates and I landed on pcgamesn.com

and it is just ads. There's this like four lines of text and then, yeah, no, that's actually chopped off. There is four lines of text and then yeah no that's actually chopped off there is four lines of text that are not obscured by ads i mean technically this banner up here is not an ad uh okay that's not technically an ad sure and technically this except for once you get to free games where did my mouse even go? There it is. I need to get out of here.

I love it. If you don't want to give Facebook your information, they do sell an Enterprise one for like $500 more that doesn't require a meta account. But I think you lose the value at that point. Yeah, I'm sure they definitely, definitely aren't monitoring. I didn't know you could do that. Yep, that's a thing.

Anonymous asked about labs. Any updates on if it's going to be getting its own channel or when it'll be producing more content now that we've had a lot more hires and people are out of probation now? There will almost certainly be lab channels, but they won't be the priority at the start the priority is get data and then we will find ways to present that data probably in a text form first and also through videos on our other

channels like short circuit and ltt and from there eventually i would expect labs to branch out into its own video content, because video is just, it's the only way to make that kind of an enterprise profitable. You can't, you can't do it through text. From RC, are any of you guys into space science? Any updates on the, or any thoughts on the Voyager probes powered down and being updated with Windows 98 in 2022? Oh, it's the Mars probe that got the Windows 98 update. That's super cool. That's actually awesome. 24 years later. I absolutely love it. you know there's got to be an insane engineering effort that goes into something that like,

you're going to fire in a tube to a different planet and then hope it still works on the other end. Like, you know there's going to be this insane effort. So then to be able to see these things work wildly beyond the expected lifespan is just really awesome. I don't know. That's very, very cool. I've been reading about the Voyager probes

and their impending shutdown. And I didn't even realize, for example, that they powered down the cameras on them ages ago, that this whole process of slowly shutting down their systems in order to extend their lifetime has actually been ongoing since very early in the mission. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool stuff. Really interesting.

Oops. Someone asked, what's the best and worst thing about the house so far? I accidentally just yo-ed it into the abyss. Best thing is having more space and the theater room. Worst thing is basically nothing being in its final state. So every time you pick something up, the place you put it down is not its final resting place because you don't have your furniture they're still like contractors crap lying around in places where you'd like to put things

only in a few places there's still some ram board on the floors that like the the storage room is full of painting equipment from the painters so we can't put anything away so the living room is still a sea of clutter. It's just, we're not moved in properly yet. And it sucks. And I want to be moved in. But obviously, champagne problem. I'm loving the additional space. We can't go in the backyard because it's all completely dug up.

It's a disaster. There's apparently some kind of concrete mixers strike. So you can't get concrete. So they can't shoot the pool. So we probably won't swim in it this year, which again, champagne problem. But you know, it's disappointing for the kids, right? That sucks.

I'm disappointed. The big kids are disappointed too. I'm disappointed. I was going to go swim in it. Yeah, heck yeah. From Dave, any thoughts on AMD using multiple dyes or chiplets on the next gen GPUs? Oh, it's super exciting.

We saw what they did with chiplets with zen it seems to be the direction we saw what apple did bolting together two of their m1 chips to make a gpu that was built and then fused together i don't think i i didn't think it could be done with complete transparency to the application and to the end user like that. If AMD can pull off something similar, we could see a legitimate, huge improvement in GPU performance. Yeah, thank you. From Diego, what Android phone would you pick if you couldn't pick a Samsung? Is it crazy to have high hopes for the nothing phone but nothing one or whatever it's called phone one i know nothing about it i got him hey i mean we know that one plus turned

worse when carl pay left we know that carl pay left over creative and management disagreements with the existing one plus team we know that carl pay is in charge of this team maybe that helps wasn't there some negative afterthoughts about the headphones i i don't think the headphones have been a smash hit i think they've done like okay nothing special hey yeah that's when they discounted the nothing special oh wait is that actually okay that'd be pretty great actually if they did that i don't know yeah uh yeah a lot of people in the in the chat talking about pixels a lot of people talking about sony phones very frustrating my issue with sony phones is a super trivial one but i cannot

get over it they do not allow you to reposition the back and the task switcher button sony just do it it's it's it's in like basic android you you took it out put it back in do they have their small phones still yeah they have some pretty compact ones, like skinny. They're skinnier, which is really nice. I would love to daily drive a Sony phone, but I refuse to reach all the way across my screen for the back button. Yeah, that's really hard. I'm not doing it.

From Michael, any plans to start selling coffee mugs? Yeah. Matter of time. I'm amazed we haven't done it yet it's kind of stupid i i'm yeah i'm pretty surprised it hasn't happened i don't know question for luke from anon do you have any advice running a software development or engineering org that's mostly or fully remote uh try to find people who are in the same time zone as you yeah time zones are more difficult than you might suspect um and if you're going to have someone that's yeah let's let's make it more

about time zones because this is a topic that could go on for hours so we'll just talk about one one section of it um but time zones are tough uh if you're going to have someone who's going to be in a drastically different time zone, you're going to need to have the right type of person that can work in that drastically different time zone. They're going to need to be quite motivated on their own. And the team is going to need to be ready to work with them. And they are going to need to be ready to work with the team. What I mean by that is both sides need to be ready to work with the team. And what I mean by that is both sides need

to be good actors. Like if they need to schedule a meeting, if you need to work with someone, because a lot of times you don't, to be completely honest. But if you do need to work with someone directly, both sides are going to need to play ball and play ball in a nice way to try to make it so that you're working around each other as best as possible uh if someone has to have a really bad sleep schedule one night maybe you trade off next time um just have that give and take act in good faith have give and take all that type of stuff um yeah i'll focus on just the time zones part i wouldn't worry too much about like plus or minus almost like five but once you start going beyond that, it gets pretty rough.

And pick a time and try to be very logical about it for your meetings. And then tell people in the interviewing process that are remote what that meeting time is. Because if they're just like, oh, that just like won't work with my sleeping schedule or whatever. Well, then.

Guess it won't work. See you later. Guess it won't work, yeah. But I don't know. Yeah, I could go on for way too long, so I'll just keep it to that. Question from Josiah. Linus Luke, what do you think of used server hardware as a home server or NAS? Is it a good idea or do you have any input? I have more things up, but you can't see them.

Yeah, it's a good idea. You won't get the same kind of power efficiency that you would out of modern hardware, but what you will get is ample access to mountains, mountains of discarded hardware from enterprise companies that still works and was built to a level of quality where it was intended to function for longer than they ever intended to use it. Your problem that you might run into is motherboards. Yeah, I wouldn't buy hard drives. Yeah, hard drives would be a little sketch.

Motherboards would be a little sketch. But like CPUs are... Well, you're stuck with used motherboards if you're gonna buy used cpus so no i know i'm just talking about resiliency though like your cpu is almost guaranteed to just make it but there will be mountains of other motherboards so yeah go for it yeah and you'll save so much that yeah some stuff will die and then you will go and you'll replace it and you might even learn something while you do it and you'll still be out ahead in all likelihood uh dylan didn't get the

memo about sending merch messages by buying something on ltt store instead of sending super chats and sent 20 as a super chat please don't do that anymore i have always wondered this why does lmg do a probation that prohibits uh use? And I'm assuming other things within LMG. So the reason is that we don't want to create, it's not video use, it's credits like public, public facing appearances. And the reason that we have a probation is that in BC, there is a 90 day period where either the employer or the employee can just say, this isn't working out. I'm glad we tried, but I think it's time to part ways. And as long as there isn't a committed relationship of any sort, it doesn't make sense for us to have people in public facing roles,

where all of a sudden, it's going to create a bunch of questions about why they departed. It's just easier if we just make sure that someone's a good fit and that they're going to be here for the long term before we introduce them to the audience. Just has a lot of potential to create drama that is entirely unnecessary. We've been burned by not adhering to the policy in the past, and we are certainly never going to be making any exceptions to it in the future ever again. There you go. That's it for merch messages.

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