The WAN Show - Keep Your Filthy Day Pass - WAN Show March 8, 2024

Episode Date: March 9, 2024

Start your day on the right foot with AG1 at http://drinkAG1.com/WANshow Sign up for Oracle DevLive: Build with Data and AI at: http://bit.ly/DevLive2024 Visit https://www.squarespace.com/WAN and use ...offer code WAN for 10% off Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119): 0:00 Chapters 1:08 Intro 1:31 Topic #1 - NVIDIA's GeForce Now supports variable refresh rate 4:18 $10/mo, Linus's morbid example, $399/mo Priority Day Pass 6:19 Luke on a trial period FP scenario, Linus on LMG's sponsors 8:40 Discussing the pricing, Luke mentions first month contribution 13:08 Floatplane exclusive Super Chexx after party 14:22 Topic #2 - Nintendo sues Tropic Haze's Yuzu over piracy, quickly ceased 15:42 Citra shut down, Ryujinx rejects invites, DraStic is now free 16:40 Should emulator developers be concerned? Linus discusses legality 19:30 Effect of Nintendo's lawsuit, the impossibility of shutting it down 22:24 Linus on piracy, Nintendo dev kits, recalling NVIDIA super phones 27:16 Linus tells Nintendo to "f-off," mentions Sony & Microsoft 33:12 Luke to host FP content, chicken, game companies & old games 39:14 Making old games fun, HD2's system req, CS2, defining "game" 47:04 Linus's chess example, Luke's VR idea, chess games 50:49 LTTStore's new LTT hat & hat pro, free shipment promo 55:30 Luke on headphones, cosmetic difference, Linus on "waterproof" 57:25 Merch Messages #1 1:02:18 NVIDIA-sponsored LTT video, COMPUTEX & CES attitude discussion 1:05:48 Upgrading the worst setup, LTT Hat Pro's holes 1:12:15 Topic #3 - Warner Bros shuts down Rooster Teeth 1:13:06 Warner Bros delists Adult Swim games, plea to transfer rejected 1:17:54 Physical media, Rooster Teeth shows, LTT's acquisition offer 1:21:22 Topic #4 - Linus covers his tax write-off rant on LTT's RYMC video 1:28:38 "After party is a tax write-off," write off regulations 1:36:48 Sponsor - AG1 1:38:07 FP exclusive - Maria shares funny writers thumbnail drawings 1:39:33 Sponsor - Oracle 1:40:24 Sponsor - Squarespace 1:41:33 Merch Messages #2 1:44:06 UV protective shirt update? ft. Antimicrobial coating 1:50:05 Have you noticed issues with DDR5 on AMD V.S. Intel? 1:55:14 Topic #5 - LTT owns Lumafield's Neptune X-Ray scanner 1:57:46 "Scanning Elijah's brain as a tax write-off," LMG auditing 2:00:29 Linus on app bloat, Luke likes this, Linus on SharePoint 2:03:48 Showcasing X-ray scans done, "tax write-off shirts!" 2:09:19 Topic #6 - Samsung ruins OLED's branding 2:18:48 Topic #7 - Microsoft to end support for Android apps 2:25:21 Topic #9 - Nikon acquires RED cameras 2:27:47 Topic #10 - Linux user base hits 4% of total computers 2:34:22 Linus's monitoring device idea & pricing, Luke on WoT cheats 2:43:13 Topic #11 - Euro NCAP requires physical buttons on cars for safety 2:44:53 Merch Messages #3 ft. After Dark, Dan leaves to set up Super Chexx 2:46:26 Does Linus monitor his solar with his tech-infused house? 2:58:56 LTTStore cargo pants update? LinusCatTreats? 3:01:01 You get a bad monitor, what spec you'd want to be top of the line? 3:01:58 Have you seen Chrysler Pacifica's plug-in hybrid minivan? 3:03:28 How does the LTT hat pro handle head sweat? 3:04:14 Non-tech public service jobs you'd do? ft. Side hustle, VEVOR 3:12:18 Thoughts on YouTubers retiring & MatPat's impact? 3:16:45 Why make cables when many cables already exist? 3:18:10 Which rig you had the most fun building at LTT? 3:21:05 Doing more real world reviews like u/Frashure11's backpack? 3:23:00 Tax write-off, hardest FP problem Luke solved? ft. Monitor 3:28:56 What do you consider important skills for PC enthusiasts? 3:30:14 Odd things you've seen wired up to a computer? 3:31:11 Managing screen time for kids? ft. Kids & parenting stories 3:46:10 How to manage performance anxiety when the stakes are high? 3:48:31 When will the water bottles be back in stock? 3:50:22 How's the SYNCRO Q7 case handling? SFS PC for home theater? 3:52:52 Failing to figure out how to end the show 3:55:15 Outro ft. "BYE" shirt Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the WAN Show! We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. NVIDIA just announced day passes for GeForce Now with one day of their game streaming service costing you as much as $8 for a single day. Who do they think they are? Wait, no, they know who they are. They're the, like, two trillion dollar... Okay, whatever. The point is, we're also going to be talking about the big news that took place just after the WAN show ended last week, which is the makers of Yuzu, the Nintendo Switch emulator, settling with Nintendo, shutting down their emulators, and sending shockwaves through the emulation community. What else we got this week luke warner bros shuts down rooster teeth and d lists adult swim games off of steam and potentially
Starting point is 00:00:51 other places but definitely steam uh and also we have a we we bought a ct scanner oh that's crazy it's pretty cool yeah yeah i mean i'm looking at some of the stuff it's produced. We'll talk about that. That got the most reactions. We should just title the show like we bought a CD. Bought is a strong word ah the show is brought to you by ag1 oracle and squarespace let's jump right into our headline topic geforce now just got a pretty significant upgrade it now wait is this not in the thing uh
Starting point is 00:01:41 but no all right okay well whatever the point is that geforce now supports variable refresh rate which i have to confess having not been briefed on this by anyone at nvidia or done any research into it whatsoever i have no idea how that would work knowing that in order for your monitor to know what refresh rate to run at it talks to your gpu and the fact that your gpu is streaming over that their internet um pretty freaking cool now it sort of seems like it might have something to do with nvidia's own drivers because right now variable refresh rate is limited to people who are running a relatively modern Nvidia GPU. So GTX 1650 RTX 2000 and up,
Starting point is 00:02:36 which sort of raises the question why you're paying for G force now in the first place, because you already have a decent GPU, but then hold on. That theory gets kind of thrown in the garbage place because you already have a decent gpu but then hold on that theory gets kind of thrown in the garbage and uh lit on fire the second that you realize that on a mac you have support for variable refresh rate on apple gpus or get this amd gpus on the older intel based max so what the heck that would seem to suggest that nvidia
Starting point is 00:03:07 is just kind of arbitrarily yeah locking windows users who don't have geforce gpus into fixed refresh rate operation on geforce now then again you know if the market share numbers that i was just looking at earlier this week or anything to go by that's basically nobody matter yeah nvidia's market share in the discrete gpu space is unbelievable and what's what's really wild about it right now is amd has a pretty competitive lineup if you're not looking at ray tracing if you're not looking at um you know... Which most people aren't. AI-powered frame generation, where they do still have a significant advantage. People do care about that.
Starting point is 00:03:51 They do. Yeah. They do. That one, the ray tracing part... But if you mostly care about rasterized gaming performance, traditional gaming performance, AMD actually has a pretty competitive lineup between their older 6000 series and their newer 7000 series cards. amd actually has a pretty competitive lineup between their older 6000 series and their newer 7000 series cards i will say though if you look at like settings guides for games everyone's
Starting point is 00:04:12 turning that stuff on these days everybody yep and it kind of makes sense um anywho uh it is now ten dollars a month and that gets you a premium rig with RTX on, up to 1080p resolution, up to 60fps, and up to a 6-hour session length, though you can start a new session at any time. Weird. Well, I get it. Just in case you're idling? Let's say you were a popular streamer slash YouTuber and were gaming when your heart unexpectedly stopped beating well then this way uh geforce now or nvidia would not be on the hook for streaming all that game data over the course of an entire weekend sure it's not hypothetical oh wow this guy knows i don't it was a whole thing wow oh boy so anywho
Starting point is 00:05:15 the point is that oh ultimate is 20 a month and gets you an rtx 4080. I'm up to speed. With RTX on, up to 4K resolution, up to 120 FPS, and eight-hour session lengths. I really don't see the six-hour session length as... Yeah, why is there a differentiator here? That big of a problem in the first place, but hey, you can game for eight hours straight with GeForce Now Ultimate. The weird part to me is that it's only two more hours.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Of course, of course of course none of this is what i'm upset about all of that is pretty cool there are some limitations around the variable refresh rate support i don't believe it works with multi monitors for example but overall i think that is super cool the thing that i'm kind of butthurt about is their priority day passes now in fairness to nvidia okay in fairness to nvidia i am not super supportive of the you know the the free month concept give us your credit card and you get a free month yeah however i don't think that this is the solution a priority question yes would you enable that for flow plane if there was trials on flow plane yeah you said you're not a huge fan i'm not sounds good sorry it's it's well enough established practice at this point that i
Starting point is 00:06:47 i'm looking at it going as long as it's very easy to cancel and super transparent that's our bar so when we're working with sponsors for example sometimes community members will flag for us that a service is difficult to cancel whatever else exactly um and that's where i draw the line whereas a free trial is a free trial especially if it gives you very real access to the service and in our case this isn't the kind of service that is effectively useless for the trial period like you know you look at some services like oh here i'll pick on a long time sponsor i'll pick on squarespace squarespace their trial exists oh yeah not so you can actually like have a website for any amount of time set it up and see if you're satisfied so
Starting point is 00:07:31 you can dink around with it a little bit and right so so something like that you know honestly someone could if we had a trial period someone could queue download the entire site if squarespace had a if squarespace had a paid trial i believe their trial is free so if squarespace had a if squarespace had a paid trial i believe their trial is free so if squarespace had a paid trial um you know i'd be a little annoyed by that let me let me just see yeah get your trial start no credit card required so because there's this kind of useless during the trial period they're doing the right thing and the trial is free so for our part if we're giving if we're taking payment information my expectation is that the service is very unfettered usable yeah during that time yeah so i don't know that we would offer a one month trial maybe we'd offer a shorter trial
Starting point is 00:08:18 but what i can say is i'm thinking like a week or less we probably wouldn't be doing this for a one day pass for the regular the regular tier or the priority tier priority day pass you're gonna pay four dollars which i guess is fine except that a full month is ten dollars what exactly is nvidia trying to achieve here with a four dollar day okay so ultimate is going to cost you eight dollars compared to twenty dollars a month why would anyone in their right mind pay 40 of the price of an entire month for one day and again in fairness to nvidia i'm not a huge fan of the whole take your credit card now and then hope you forget about the subscription model it's become the standard you know what would be cool but everyone knows why they do that and this is something but why not i mean it, it's just, who cares?
Starting point is 00:09:25 It should be a dollar or $2. This idea is free, and I love this idea. Sure. What if it contributed towards your first month? I would be far more okay with that. It's a pretty brutal percentage, but if you do subscribe for the month it's like well i got to try it now i feel i still feel like it should be cheaper but i would like it
Starting point is 00:09:51 if it contributed to it honestly i think it should just be i would be happier with a free month trial it shouldn't be a dollar it's too cheap or just have me subscribe for the full month and prorate me a partial refund if i'm not happy with it or something like i just i just if the idea i just don't really understand what nvidia is trying to achieve here if the idea was to create a very low barrier of entry so that i can try it before i buy it then it should actually be cheap yeah the barriers they don't want to process a bunch of two dollar payments which is fair enough but if processing that two dollar payment locks someone into a subscription if it turns them into a subscribing customer mission freaking accomplished and and i can understand nvidia not wanting to just give away g-force now because it as we know is extremely expensive for them to run both in terms of processing like like actual power, and in terms of bandwidth.
Starting point is 00:10:49 This is a very premium service. Even on Nvidia's side, their costs are high. So I get that they want to cover the costs and they don't want to do free trials. Weird non-solution that I just, I'm having a hard time imagining the sort of the penny pinching that was going on in the board meeting where they were making this decision. Like, are they actually worried that on a one day pass, someone is going to do, you know, four, six hour sessions in a row to like, to really get the maximum out of it. And so they have to charge $ dollars versus a buck or like come on you guys if the idea is just to get the credit card which realistically from a from a marketing
Starting point is 00:11:33 standpoint is 90 of the battle is getting someone to create an account and enter their credit card there's a free tier that's worth the few dollars yeah it's uh it's ad supported yeah so realistically is it really your concern that you're gonna lose money on people who want to try priority and ultimate if you don't charge them enough i just i can't really i can't really follow i i just don't i just don't really follow. I just don't really follow. Yeah, we've got people saying like the four bucks should get you a week. Yeah, if $10 is a month, I could totally see $4 being a week.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And then at least we're kind of talking about people kind of paying approximately the same amount per time used. about people kind of paying approximately the same amount per time used. And we're talking about a period of time when you could actually potentially, you know, when you have a vacation, binge a game. Like, it's actually useful. Where is $4 for, I don't know. I just, I have nothing else to say other than that I just don't really get it. I think it should be a lower price.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, it should be a lower price the day pass idea i actually love i think that's really cool if we could do a float plane day pass i'd be i'd be super into that we haven't built the mechanisms for trials and for i don't think it works very well for our service to be completely honest i mean it could i don't think unless it doesn't include download i think yeah yeah something like that could work might It might be all right. Yeah. There's definitely some stuff that we need to explore in terms of driving people to floatplane. We're going to be trying something new today.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We're going to be doing... Are we? Hopefully. Are we not? Doing what? Floatplane exclusive after party. Oh, okay. We're playing Super Checks.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I already forgot about that. I'm down. That was like six minutes ago i immediately started to think like some feature launch or something i was like oh no what am i not ready for i don't i don't know you actually looked extremely frightened i lulled inside oh man uh all right why don't we jump into our next thing that we're supposed to do dan help me topic number two luke you want to pick it sure yeah uh index finger or pinky i asked if you want to pick it why oh really really luke it's a little early on the show to go there twitch is still watching they're sensitive virgin eyes they haven't been sent to bed yet um let's do yuzu i think let's do yuzu yeah yeah makers of yuzu shut down
Starting point is 00:14:34 emulators telemetry data worries and other shockwaves through the emulation community a week after nintendo just a week this is like the craziest part to me a week after nintendo filed a lawsuit against tropic haze llc the makers of yuzu switch emulation software tropic haze has agreed to settle the case by paying nintendo 2.4 million dollars and ceasing distribution of the emulator man that happened fast like that was lightning fast there is no way that this wasn't all kind of going on behind the scenes at that point yeah yuzu uh some observers have speculated that the devs may have settled to avoid discovery which may have verified claims that the yuzu team dumped and shared games between themselves
Starting point is 00:15:18 or helped get switch games uh up and running on yuzu before their official launch date yuzu apparently had telemetry that logged a lot of information and now that all devices and hard drives owned by the llc are now in the hands of nintendo leading to fears that they may take further action against the emulator's user base oh boy why did that telemetry data need to get logged? As an additional result of the lawsuit, Tropic Haze has also discontinued support of the 3DS emulator Citra. The discussion has caused a wave of chaos. Decision.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah, there we go. The decision has caused a wave of chaos in the emulation community. The official Discord channel of Yuzu's competitor, Ryujinx, Ryujinx, okay, had to temporarily stop accepting invites in response to the influx of users from the Yuzu Discord server. A popular Discord server for the Steam Deck, for the time being at least, shut down its entire emulation channel to prevent potential legal repercussions. potential legal repercussions the developer of popular nintendo ds emulator drastic uh stopped charging for the software on the google play store and intends to pull it down and open its
Starting point is 00:16:32 source a decision made more urgent by the uzu uzu settlement our discussion question is what will the results of this decision be and should emulator users and developers be concerned i mean we're not legal experts no when it comes to emulation or realistically anything yep yep i was going there i was going there so take all of this as not legal advice these are yeah but it's been pretty clear for a long time that emulation is very, very murky legally. It's heavily dependent on the region that you're in, on the region that you are defending yourself against. Everyone likes to thump that emulation is legal, but it's like... Some aspects of that are somewhat proven out.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Some aspects of that are not as proven out. somewhat proven out some aspects of that are not as proven out and as we've seen recently like looking at uh in particular a high profile long-standing decision that was overturned by the u.s supreme court somewhat recently just because something has legal precedent for it doesn't necessarily mean that that can never be overturned if there is sufficient pressure on the legal system uh or if there is a new argument that can be presented in order to get it changed i do think that there are probably regions where it is unlikely that that an emulation developer would be um at as much risk but it is very clear that if especially you pursue any kind of monetary gain yes through the development and distribution of any kind of copyrighted material you are painting
Starting point is 00:18:14 a target on your back and a big one you are going to be in trouble i think that what uh drastic is doing is probably a pretty smart defensive play open sourcing it and sort of trying to trying to make the target broader and less easy to go after if it's just an a community of open source developers compared to an organization that is clearly making a significant amount of money. I mean, if you have $2.4 million to pay as a settlement, what I would assume is that that's somewhere near everything they had. And that's probably the negotiation that has taken place over presumably the weeks or months that have led up to this announcement and then the subsequent announcement of the settlement i bet you nintendo wanted it to be fast because it probably shows that it's scary how fast it happened is scary
Starting point is 00:19:16 oh absolutely and i i pretty much guarantee you a pretty significant portion of this was wanting to instill fear they don't want people to do this so they they want to make a example the thing that sort of baffles me right now is that nintendo thinks that that will be successful that people will maybe stop emulating games and emulating their systems totally will from a from a paid perspective i think we're going to see a somewhat universal death of paid emulation i don't think so i think we might see that in some places i mean you're i think you're you're probably not considering what's going on in places like china where you can buy easily readily available systems that are completely jammed packed full of emulators and pirated roms so more in like somewhat legal havens yeah and and that's the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:20:15 where that i mean we've seen time and time again um just basically since the inception of the internet you can't stomp out anything yeah yeah yeah yeah you'll never completely get it there's always somewhere it can hide whether it's whether it's you know uh you know online black marketplaces or whether it's we saw this with wow private servers back in the day before they made wow classic they they would just bounce around to data centers yep oh that one gets whacked another one comes up it's probably a new group of people whatever they're still gonna accept payments they gotta pay for servers i mean look we we discussed this a little while ago this actually cropped up on the subreddit people were
Starting point is 00:20:51 asking whoa why why was linus all talking about the pirate bay like don't use the pirate bay um and it's because the ownership has changed multiple times and there's it's not it's legitimately not what it used to be it is actually not what it used to be and not run by the folks that used to run it but what i can say about it is it's still there i mean the number of times that the pirate bay and that the power of the entities who have tried to take down the pirate bay uh the number of times they've shut it down only for it to crop back up again yeah is mind-boggling um especially when you consider the the the limited financial resources of a website um and you know they definitely ran ads that we know from experience have
Starting point is 00:21:42 higher cpms on them you know advertisers who won't get you know more legitimate sites to display their stuff um to be clear we haven't actually run them we've just seen offers but uh still still it's it's a it's finite resources and you're going up against entities that have effectively infinite resources like the motion picture association of america or the uh what's the r.a.a recording industry artists association or something like that i can't remember what r.a.a stands for but these like gigantic american um media organizations recording industry association of america thank you um but yeah big yeah, big deal. Really big deal.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, I'm worried because I'm at a point in my life now where I really do pay for the games I play. I don't legitimately do not remember the last time I pirated a game. I would have been still living at my parents' house, I think. Maybe not. I don't know either. No, probably not. Call of Duty 2. Okay, let's look at Call of Duty 2.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Wait, no. No, I didn't. I didn't pirate Call of Duty 2 because by then I was working at NCIX and I got codes that... Even if you did, that was 2005. Yeah, no, hold on a second was it cod 2 19 years yeah anyway the point is it's been a very very long time long time basically since steam got good i i could not afford to buy the games at all it didn't there was there was no like it wasn't gonna make a difference and i was pirating games and then i could afford to buy games and i bought games so as someone who
Starting point is 00:23:29 has played nintendo games on an emulator and owns every game that i played i mean look i'm not going to pretend that i went through the rigmarole of ripping my games yeah and ripping my bios not going to pretend that you have a but i've got the cart got a cart yeah got the cart but i don't want to play on the switch it fucking sucks and so that's honestly that's my problem with all of this i'm not even looking at it like but my free games like it's not about that it's about i want to i want to play my games at 60 frames per second that's mudahar's take as well you guys have the same oh really yeah oh it's hilarious he's just like i want it to be better yeah and if nintendo if i even gave them i gave them my fucking money
Starting point is 00:24:17 once for the switch second time for the switch oled give me in the game give me a switch to or switch pro i saw i saw a rumor i don't know what source it was from i have no idea the credibility but i i saw a rumor that kind of lines up with other rumors about the upcoming switch replacement that it's based on i want to say turing it's already gonna be old um where where they were basically saying yeah the hardware has pretty much been done for like two years which kind of makes sense from a from a development standpoint like if nintendo's like look we don't want to rush this we want to have dev kits that are basically finished hardware so that the games at launch have years to be developed and are awesome or what like okay i get it um but like it's like a seven it's a seven-year-old console at this point mobile and it sucked when it came
Starting point is 00:25:15 out yeah just give me something it was weak at launch yeah like nvidia i remember nvidia coming to the office at ncix and pitching do you remember nvidia's super phones yeah yeah i remember that super phones nvidia let's see if i can let's see if i can find any materials oh my god from super phones to super computers what is this what year is this from uh but the nvidia fact sheet uh 1910 million tegras shipped what am i even what am i even looking at here this is like obviously ancient collateral uh 2011 let's go okay so nvidia had this super phones initiative around their tegra chips and the idea was that they were going to power you know the computer the pc um or sorry they were going to power the data center uh your pocket and everything in between and um tegra tegra kind of sucked like on the gpu side of things it was it was good it was solid uh but the the cpu was not competitive at the time and nvidia wasn't able to iterate on it fast enough
Starting point is 00:26:34 and get enough design wins to put the r&d back into it to get the cycle going it just never it never snowballed and a few years later, out came the Nintendo Switch with this kind of crappy, when it was launched, which was years prior, mobile chip in it. And it's like, oh, please.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Anyway. Yeah, this sucks. This sucks because my issue is not paying for games. My issue is wanting the games that I play to be the best possible experience and Nintendo having no interest in that whatsoever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I mean, even just the fact that your save games are locked to the Switch with no way to export them and the only way to back them up being a monthly subscription i've said it once i'll say it again f**k off nintendo with that bulls**t i'm not into it why do i keep giving them money because unfortunately they make good games yeah they do though yeah they really do and you know looking at looking at sony's move i'm i'm worried about the console future oh yeah microsoft has already telegraphed that they are just utterly disinterested in the hardware side of the business they want to be a a netflix for games it's it's all it's off i always forget what it's called now project x cloud
Starting point is 00:28:13 whatever it's actually called what what what is the xbox streaming service called xbox gold or something any any anyway uh it's all about um Anyway, it's all about... Xbox Cloud Gaming, really? Yeah, it's all about Xbox Game Streaming. Is that what it's called now? It's called something. It's all about their streaming service, and it's all about Game Pass at this point.
Starting point is 00:28:38 The website says Cloud Gaming. Sure, Xbox Cloud Gaming. So it's all about streaming. It's all about Game Pass. It's all about leveraging their data center expertise to become like a game gaming company, but not necessarily just sell consoles at, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:55 at cost or, or at a loss. And seeing how heavily they've promoted the Xbox. I mean, in terms of price like there were there were holiday deals last year that were very very aggressive on the series x and the series s and seeing how they've just kind of evidently thrown in the towel on sort of making money on the hardware and they've invested everything into buying up developers it seems pretty clear to me that microsoft's interest
Starting point is 00:29:25 in the hardware side of things is fading which i think puts some weight behind what microsoft said in their defense of sony's accusations that they were buying up these ips to make them xbox exclusive i think i'm at the point now where i kind of believe them that those games will come to playstation because they're looking at the cost of developing these mega triple a or uh quadruple a games the future of gaming and going look if we don't target the largest possible install base we're taking our own foot and basically turning it into swiss cheese with a gun right so i think i kind of buy it now but here's the thing sony seems to be way faster way more suddenly i guess than i anticipated coming around to the same thing
Starting point is 00:30:21 what even uh i was talking last week i think about the the console tier list video that we have coming where we were looking at the ps5 going you know what are the exclusives that you know cement this console as uh as as you know iconic you know a console for the ages because that was one of our definitions is like, what were the games that defined or the experiences that defined this console? And if all of its best games are going to make their way to PC or heaven forbid, you know, Xbox or Nintendo Switch 2 or whatever the case may be, it's kind of hard to defend the PlayStation 5 as a piece of hardware that needed to exist at any point. a piece of hardware that need that needed to exist at any point and so looking at both microsoft and sony headed the sega route hopefully not with the same level of disastrousness um but heading the sega route of being more of a more of a software company than an actual hardware company is it possible or or even probable that n Nintendo is the last one standing? Yeah, I think that'll be how it goes.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I don't know if it'll be soon necessarily. I feel like PlayStation is going to hold out for a long time. I don't think we're actually that close to PlayStation being done with consoles. Although I almost feel like it might be better for us. What if it isn't? If they do stop making consoles why oh well because you would need some type of host device at home yeah better for us if they stop making consoles i don't know i don't know As PC people. Because it almost feels like some of the most interesting games are the ones where they, like, it's like you've got this positive feedback loop where you make money selling consoles and you dump that into games, then you make money selling the games, and then you dump that back into the console and it's like it's a it's a it's a self reinforcing it's an ecosystem business model slash like there's through the through the hardware the game and the subscription services it throws a lot of money into a pot that at some point
Starting point is 00:32:39 if they want that if they want that machine to keep turning, has to go into developing great games. And it feels like if they just become software companies, well, they're going to have all the same challenges that the entire rest of the games industry does where they just need to count on absolutely crushing it with software sales every single time and then funding it unless we want every game to just be
Starting point is 00:33:05 a game as a service and even those even those seem really risky these days i have this is going to sound very off topic of course but i uh starting next week we're filming a bunch of things with me for flow plane because apparently we're doing like some content with me i don't know um i'm cooking that chicken finally uh apparently that'll be probably a very boring chicken's not the only animal he's going to be showing you how to cook wow oh boy uh if people know the context that's rough okay your mom's probably not watching yeah i don't know um one of them is going to be starfield review i'm not going to talk about starfield at all my plan is to entirely talk about the death of like the gaming industry that we grew up with because like bethesda is a rotting carcass as of
Starting point is 00:34:03 right now blizzard's like dead activision's like dead ubisoft is like dead yay's like dead like all the biggest in fairness we always kind of hated ea yeah but they used to release bangers it was annoying because we didn't like the company but like they released good stuff old school need for speed was sick okay that's fair old old school need for speed was like actually an amazing game all right fair they had other stuff that was really good i'll allow it um but yeah i mean and then like the yeah the atari thing i saw people talking about this online they're like this pattern started with Atari and we're just seeing the second stage of it. Now, the first stage was Atari becoming, you know, big and lethargic and failing and the good people from it quitting and forming Activision.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And now Activision is big and lethargic and boring. And now people are leaving Activision. Studios are leaving Activision. Key people are leaving Activision and they're going off and building things making their own little companies and we're seeing like the big slam omega hits over the last little while elden ring baldur's gate 3 hell divers 2 these none of these are from the studios you're expecting them to be from you know speaking of which uh did you get a chance to try out storm gate from frost giant studios yet no i haven't played it okay all right i'm excited too though
Starting point is 00:35:30 i didn't pay enough attention i think they did like a play test weekend and i didn't play that weekend yeah these are some ex ex blizzard devs uh who are making what's supposed to be what they're trying to turn into kind of a spiritual successor to warcraft 3 starcraft 2 which are ips that just um starcraft in particular just feels like it's rotting like just do anything with that no no here's another diablo gotcha game i think pretty much everything blizzard has is rotting right now if if I'm being completely honest. I mean, Diablo seems to be printing money. Is it? I think so. The mobile game.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah, exactly. The desktop game. Oh, well, sure. Yeah, but I mean, mobile. I mean, when Microsoft completed the acquisition, okay, here, let me back it up. The fact that King is even in the name of Activision blizzard king it's just yeah like it's not like those are the only gaming companies that they have either which is interesting to me no but
Starting point is 00:36:36 the fact that king is like it's up there in the name of the company yeah was mind-blowing to me and then and then to the the revenue share that king has of the entire of the entire company it's crazy it was just yeah and when you look at utterly mind-destroying when you look at the revenue of all the like game series and titles that we like care about because we grew up with them they like all suck it's like oh okay i guess i understand why they're dying but like i think there's also a reason david david told me the latest final fantasy is really good yeah this is so this is in my notes is that square enix is like one of the only ones that's held on like almost everyone else has totally failed and square enix had some dips but they've recovered
Starting point is 00:37:25 every time yeah they've done some dumb stuff yeah but they've also existed for like ever so they're gonna do some dumb stuff and pretty much every time that they do like with their launch of their mmo the original launch of the final fantasy mmo was terrible but then they were like you know they really turned that around we're gonna make it good and they like destroyed the whole first thing that they had if i remember correctly they like canceled the entire thing refunded everybody rebuilt it came back and then had this slow successful burn over time and now it's beloved it's like okay all right diablo immortal has stabilized at anywhere from about uh five to seven million dollars a month that's ridiculous so so diablo immortal is generating
Starting point is 00:38:07 on a recurring basis somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 70 million dollars a year um and that's and that's like well into its life cycle here this is from statista and you take these numbers with a grain of salt that they need to be taken with um i don't know exactly where these ones came from but i these this seems somewhat believable that it did you know tens of millions of dollars per month in the first couple of months so this game is is so far beyond its roi point um and is now into gravy territory with that said games as a service don't have quite the traditional okay we hit the roi point now everything is just gravy uh that we that you used to because the development is ongoing but there's no way that the development is costing them five to six million dollars a
Starting point is 00:39:01 month a lot of that is absolutely absolutely gravy um i was i forget who i was talking to about this but um it is pretty funny to me how clearly nvidia seems to see the future and how much of their development seems to be going into making your old games fun to play again if you if you look i don't know at the big picture why does rtx remix exist it's not like there's any shortage of new games to play so why would anybody need to go back and play morrowind but like in 8k with ray traced lighting people love nostalgia stuff um that's part of that's gonna be i i don't think it's because games are getting worse i i actually have a different opinion on this no no no no no i'm not saying it's because games are getting worse necessarily what i'm
Starting point is 00:39:55 saying is that they are recognizing that the old model of here comes a blockbuster game that everyone is going to play every gamer is going to need or they're just going to get left behind by their gaming crew is dead so they can't count on that to sell gpus anymore because like i i think the two you can't just point at balder's gate three and say and say that that that proves the thing. It's one game, Luke. The problem now is that I have two. Sure, Dark Souls. Helldivers.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Helldivers is killing it. Okay. Is Helldivers going to sell GPUs? Let's have a look at the Helldivers 2 system requirements, shall we? Yeah, I don't think those are super high. need a core i7 4790k hey man and a gtx 1050 ti i don't think you'll necessarily enjoy your experience with that so my so my but my point though was that nvidia can't count on these triple a games pushing nvidia sales that everyone's gonna buy to to make it so that you have to buy an rtx you know 69 69 gt ti whatever last epoch and pal world are not going to help me counter lines they really aren't they are really not so n NVIDIA is investing heavily.
Starting point is 00:41:26 These are not cheap efforts. NVIDIA is investing heavily in tools to make your old ugly games kill your current GPU. Yeah. And not in just like a meaningless, stupid way. Some of those shots of Morrowind are actually insane. In a meaningful meaningful i would enjoy this game more oh yeah playing it this way oh yeah kind of way and it's just i don't know it's
Starting point is 00:41:50 i don't remember how we made it onto this topic of conversation me neither but it's it's it's clear that they've identified that the industry that they grew up in no longer exists yeah fair enough i just i think it's i think it's yeah i think it's a life and death cycle i think we're seeing new companies rise up i think we're seeing creative ideas come out uh like a lot of people are looking at hell divers and be like why isn't this halo like where is halo halo infinite took so long to develop and is trash like what i like it sort of oh i like things about it yeah it's the game i play if i'm just like i'm gonna play a game for an hour i've given them zero dollars for it though so i'm definitely part of the problem um wait no no i bought the campaign i bought it and then didn't
Starting point is 00:42:40 play it yeah it's so i guess i contributed i actually like didn't play it. Yeah, it's not good. So I guess I contributed. I actually didn't like it. Yeah, well, you played it without me, you a**hole. I'll still play it with you if you want. But, yeah, it's like if your girlfriend goes and watches the movie that you were going to watch together, and then you're like, yo, WTF. And they're like, well, I'll watch it again, but it sucked. You never have any time. I'll watch it again, it sucked you never have any time I'll watch it again but it sucks yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna drag
Starting point is 00:43:08 you through this experience you didn't even enjoy I'll happily complain about it yeah because that's gonna make it more fun for me it might it might be the most fun part what a dick oh man but like it's I don't know we're looking at this stuff and just
Starting point is 00:43:26 kind of like where where are these old companies you're looking at these games that are killing you're looking at the things that the community is asking for they're just not making them um and it's frustrating you hear stories about like how people at at 343 have effectively pitched almost exactly what Helldivers is because like if you think about it Halo already has their ODST Helljumpers like they literally have this thing it exists in their universe
Starting point is 00:43:54 you could make a game around it um uh they just didn't so I don't know Capcom is another company that's been doing good games. I agree. Isn't Capcom Japanese again?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yep. Yep. So, there's a bit of a theme going on there. And they also did this thing, though, in my opinion. Capcom's had some dogs. Oh, yeah. And they're recently on a rise, for sure. But they were definitely mostly forgotten about for a little while there
Starting point is 00:44:25 all right dan what's next what about valve they like don't make games anymore yeah what about valve hey we made cs2 and pissed everybody off i mean did they i mean what even is cs2 is cs2 a game define game kind of hard to tell at this point i feel like they just like don't want to maintain uh go anymore like seriously define game it's counter-strike but the smokes are cool okay they're pretty cool you can splish splash in the water that's pretty cool yeah see people are no know what games is chores smoke is cool see this is this guys this is pretty cool yeah this is this is what i'm talking about i i know i'm doing this i'm actually i'm doing this okay here we go dictionary.com what is your phone doing what's that charging oh yep what is a red light uh because
Starting point is 00:45:34 it has a cool uh it has a cool multi-colored light that you can have it do different lights for different things such an ancient feature yeah i know that everyone abandoned yeah well it's cool the note nine is it's the phone that has the all the things um hold on actually let me double check i think it has that i've never actually tried to configure it um rgb uh notification light i think it has one light colors mean i'd be so yeah yeah if they released another Portal game. Yeah, it definitely has that. Okay, so the definition of a game. Noun. Wait, what? Portal 2 is released in 2011, my dudes.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Stop reminding me about the passage of time. An amusement or pastime. So, what does CS2... What does CS2 anything that... way anything's versus cs go the smokes are pretty cool okay so it's an amusement i can look at the smokes okay cs2 is a game i can look at the smoke and i can throw a fragnate and then i could go oh it all went away i just mean i guess what i'm trying to say is i don't think they developed a game with cs2 because the game already existed it's basically like it's basically like if you electronify my menu yeah if you that's a big one no they made a market they made a store it's like if you take chess okay and you
Starting point is 00:46:58 create a marketplace for different pieces that you can put on the board different different board styles and you make the board look really pretty nice write this down write this down you have write this down you haven't made chess chess is the game you didn't make it you accessorized you know it would be sick oh my goodness okay apple vision pro app it's a chess app, but you can play, it puts you at a table at chess events. You can, like, Magnus Carlsen can be beating somebody up right next to you, and you are playing someone at your table. And when Magnus Carlsen does his thing where he's bored because he's destroying, and he just looks at other people's games
Starting point is 00:47:41 and evaluates them because he's waiting for the other opponent to finally do something, he can look at your game game and that could be the built-in game evaluation sick okay i uh really think that that is a much worse idea than where i thought you were going with this i thought you were just i thought where you were going was just you know developing uh uh an exciting remember how do you remember battle chess i actually i i look this up every once in a while i want a campaign-based chess game and they just don't exist as far as i can tell battle chess is sick what is this this is battle chess obviously oh my what he picked up oh he has no arms it's only a flesh wound though yeah it's the it's the flesh wound meme yes oh no what happens now oh okay it's battle chest what is that don't oh my bishop man they got they got god powers
Starting point is 00:48:53 anyway are those queens uh yes wow you can tell from the uh yep queenly um yeah oh the rooks are epic yeah they're rock monsters but yeah i want i would love to have like a wait people fps chess what is this a thing what's fps chess anyway what i was going to say was basically you create like a like a chess with you know microtransactions essentially so you can buy like skins skins for your chess fps wait what the heck this is amazing oh my god of course this is a thing here we go well you can fly and stuff hold on hold on here we go here we go what is this what am i what am i what am i looking at wait for it just wait for it just wait for it headshot headshot and then wait rocket jump and then they're flying what what's happening okay so when you fight for a for a space king you can not win necessarily maybe I have no idea
Starting point is 00:50:06 I don't want this I just want a campaign is that a suppress sniper wow rook wins well that's something that exists uh cool very positive reviews came out inuly of 2022 i don't want i don't want i don't want
Starting point is 00:50:29 5d chess with multiverses and time travel that's that's cool that's neat that's interesting i just want to campaign chess mmo i think that's just chess.com i think that's just chess.com. I think that's legitimately chess.com. Google en passant. I know what en passant is. Anyway, we're supposed to do some merch messages. Hey, guess what? We've been talking about this forever. The hat? The hat.
Starting point is 00:50:58 The hat's the. Okay, okay. So remember when we did a poll on WAN Show and we asked the people, hold on, let me just, it's not, it's not obvious outwardly, which one is which. Can you tell from the bands? You know what?
Starting point is 00:51:13 Nope. No, these might, wait, did they seriously? Oh, they only, okay. These are the same hat. One is large. One is medium. Okay. The point is ages ago we asked you
Starting point is 00:51:27 guys hey do you just want like a more comfortable uh you know us designed there's no smarty so it's it's like super comfy it has a nice size adjuster um yeah no no no smarty it has a has a quite a nice size adjuster and it's you know just the right depth quality hat do you just want like a quality you know basic hat we're bringing back
Starting point is 00:51:50 you know the basic hat or do you want an expensive hat that's like waterproof and made out of this super expensive material and you guys basically voted
Starting point is 00:51:59 50-50 so we were like alright thanks for nothing that's not very useful and we made both the ltt hat and the ltt hat pro now i saw some really cool when it was in thumbnail mode i was gonna say like who is that? It's you. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:27 These guys were having way too much fun. Colton Rockin. So you can see the water beading on there. So we've got two versions of the hat. We've got the regular hat, and we've got the LTT Hat Pro, made exclusively for professional grass touchers. It's water resistant for everyday use. Okay, what's the fabric?
Starting point is 00:52:44 There it is uh ventile cotton with incredible water repellency repellency excuse me by design got a whole bunch of information here really nice comfort no matter how you wear it forward backward one of my requirements was that it should still be comfortable even if you wear it sideways like a complete f***ing tool okay look you know what it matters to me okay it matters to me that works surprisingly well i just i i didn't want the uh wait i can yeah okay please please stop sick beats there look it totally works please actually stop everything that we're looking at right now is not okay i got a question asking if it comes in tall tall no medium and large sorry medium and large um but the main feature is just that is comfortable anyway it's there it's on the store and you can pick it up this week and while you're at it you can leave a merch message the way to interact with the show is not through super chats or um whatever they're called whatever the things
Starting point is 00:53:51 on twitch twitch bits or twitch bits or anything like that it's merch messages because instead of just throwing money at your screen you should throw money at your screen and get quality merchandise in return and by the way we will also take your messages they'll go to producer dan who will sort through them and either pop them up on the screen like anonymous is here who just scored a noctua edition screwdriver or we'll forward them internally to get you guys an answer reply to you or even curate them for me and luke to address and these days often dan as well all you got to do is put something in your cart and there will be a little box anytime we're live that will allow you to leave a merch message so
Starting point is 00:54:32 we're going to show you guys kind of how that works and oh right there's another promo for the store uh i didn't see it on the home page but we are yes we have a promo running on the retro screwdriver all you got to do is add the retro edition okay so retro colorway to your order and you will get free shipping for your entire order oh nice yeah nick uh was like hey we should do a promo it's march which is a pretty traditionally slow time for retail ah and uh i was like and then uh we did it so there it is order a retro screwdriver get free shipping on your whole order let's go all right dan do you want to show us uh how much messages work i will say one quick thing before we go on
Starting point is 00:55:30 it's actually a lot nicer with headphones because of the no already bean thing i know yeah but there's no pressure point oh like everything else we do this hat took an embarrassing amount of time have you noticed how long we've had no hats on the store oh yeah that's because we were working on development of the hat and we're like well let's not reorder any more of these other hats because like we're gonna make a better hat eventually yeah yeah so we're both wearing the regular cotton one and then the ventile one is like double the price or whatever because that material is like wildly expensive yeah it's 20 bucks and it's uh 40 bucks and it's just a really comfortable hat or it's a really comfortable hat with water resistance it's up to you uh one thing to note
Starting point is 00:56:12 is that the little like holes are not on the pro that's the only cosmetic difference that's why i was so confused when i was looking at them because i thought i had one of each oh and i was gaslighting myself to think that they're they the the the one with the waterproof fabric had a hole on it sorry i want to be really careful with the word waterproof okay i don't use the word waterproof from my understanding this is a waterproof material but it's a word i just like to avoid because water will literally cut a path through a mountain so nothing is waterproof but the the water what's cut a path through a mountain so nothing is waterproof but the water what's the point of having a water resistant little hole in it so i was really
Starting point is 00:56:50 confused firefighters don't like fireproof yeah yeah so it's like really how much fire how long how hot yeah yeah we could melt basically anything so like come at me bro yeah so that's why that's why we had that whole thing with vessi where uh we changed our talking points to vessi vessi says they're waterproof instead of us saying they're waterproof because i won't say anything is waterproof in fairness to vessi they're good good shoes i like them but nothing is waterproof all right anyway uh dan yep sure sup little large and dad so you know those white circle easy peel tabs on food and stuff why the actual f do those always rip and make peeling not easy at all you make products how could this happen i don't think i've ever ripped one of those oh yeah some of them sometimes like apples apple sticker ones yeah sometimes they're made of paper if you get them wet
Starting point is 00:57:48 so i've made the mistake of washing an apple before peeling it and what happens is the paper layer um delaminates from the adhesive layer and then getting that adhesive layer off completely without pulling out the isopropyl alcohol and like cleaning your apple. Really? Whereas the plastic ones come off even if you get them wet first, but from my understanding are more environmentally impactful.
Starting point is 00:58:19 So hopefully that answers the question. But the one that really drives me crazy is um the the ocean spray craisins the dried cranberries the pack that they have at costco maybe i'm about to reveal that i'm a complete idiot but as far as i can tell, there's been an error in the packaging such that if you use the like pull thing, the resealable mechanism for it doesn't work. Oh. Is it the Craisins? I don't know. brand thing that they carry at costco where if you use the pull tab it uh you the the reseal thing doesn't work and you have to get out a knife and you have to like cut it yourself in your own spot
Starting point is 00:59:13 instead of where the little indent is and i think it's the craisins but some people are agreeing with you so yeah i think you're right it might be yeah is it craisins uh people are saying yes they had the line cut underneath the resealable zipper yeah thanks okay yeah that has been like that for i kid you not like five years and it's it's such a it's such a simple it's such a the fact that nobody at ocean spray ever bought a fucking pack of their craisins and was like this is stupid is mind-blowing to me it is absolutely mind-blowing to me i mean i've talked about this on the show where i think that the president of every car company should have to drive only cars that they make they should they should rotate through them they should have to drive every single car they make because how else are you going to get anything done like the number of if they think it isn't safe enough they shouldn't make it and i mean not just that like if if they
Starting point is 01:00:16 come across something that is annoying and in so many cases costs nothing to fix literally actually nothing you know to move a button where you can reach it more easily or to whatever it is right the the fact that they don't act as their own harshest reviewers just grinds my gears so hard um you know you talk about man and anything is like this you know like if you are if you if you run you know public transit for the city of vancouver if you don't ride it at least once a month you how could you possibly how could you possibly even hope to make decisions that impact the people who do ride it. Yeah, ideally, if it's only going to be once a month, you should ride it, like, a lot that one day.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Shouldn't, like, get on one bus. It should probably vary locations and stuff. Anyway. Like, I use floatplane. Every day. Yeah, I use it i mean uh i had a i had a meeting with dennis earlier this week where we were talking about his uh his like creative uh creative sponsor spots and uh he asked me about the ones that we did for wicked cushions um at ces and i was like brother do you think i watched sponsor
Starting point is 01:01:42 spots i whenever i watched like adam's video or any of the other host videos i've watched them on floatplane yeah the fuck you think this is i'm gonna watch on youtube like some kind of pleb like no watch without the sponsor spots on floatplane uh and he's like oh that makes sense i'm getting called out because i mentioned i don't watch all the lct videos and i said I watch every day. There's more stuff on there than LCT. Yeah. Yeah, we're not the only ones.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Just saying. Yeah. Just saying. I also do watch LCT videos. I just don't watch all of them. But you guys release a lot of stuff. Sorry. So much content.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Man, we've got some good stuff coming. Hey, speaking of NVIDIA, who we roasted in the first topic of the show guess who's back back again no way nvidia sponsored a video i know right what it's been hold on i think the last i think the last time they worked with us in a non-editorial capacity and even that seemed begrudging for quite a while was the launch of the rtx 3090 so that was september of 2020 three and a half years ago in that time in that time from my understanding um some people have moved on yeah at nvidia yeah oh no i think that's not even that's just true well it's more than just one person whose butt i hurt okay uh so i mean that's not some people have some people have moved on or are in positions of lesser importance um and i wouldn't be surprised
Starting point is 01:03:22 if that controversy contributed. Anyway, the point is there's, there's, there's a new sheriff in town when it comes to media engagement. And we actually first, I first sat down with them in June of last year. And they were basically like,
Starting point is 01:03:39 no, no, we're different now. We're different now. And I was like, sure. And they were like, no,
Starting point is 01:03:43 but like, you know, we really want to, we really want to, we really want to work with the media. We want to work with you guys. We want to, we want to be good citizens. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:53 sure. And I basically, I always feel bad when this happens because it's not, it's not his fault, but I basically tore a strip out of him. I was like, look, this is everything that NvidiaVIDIA has done wrong.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Ever. How long was this call? Like, I'm not even trying to... No, this was in person. This was at Computex. Oh. So I sat down with... I mean, I don't know if one of these people is, like, publicly everyone knows what they do.
Starting point is 01:04:23 But Jacob was one of them. You remember Jacob from EVGA, right? So they do. But Jacob was one of them. You remember Jacob from EVGA, right? So Jacob was there. We had some, I truly believe he would try to do good things. Oh, Jacob's great.
Starting point is 01:04:32 He's awesome. Yeah. But anyway, so we had, so Jacob was there. The other guy who's handing media relations now, and I don't know if his name is public and I don't want to like out somebody, but Jacob's a public figure.
Starting point is 01:04:41 So I don't, whatever. Jacob's fine. So, so Jacob was there. Someone from our business team was there. I was and then the the media relations guy uh from nvidia was there and like jacob had just made the transition from evga to nvidia and so i i i'm not going to put any words in his mouth because he didn't say much um but it was it it definitely was an interesting dynamic
Starting point is 01:05:06 having me from the media side jacob from very recently the nvidia partner side and then the other guy from the i'm sure you brought up things they've done to their partners not just media so i basically laid out everything from nvidia that i've seen over the course of my career that has that has illustrated that there's a significant attitude problem not just these isolated instances of of bad behavior um and he was like okay i'm gonna take all that and uh you know i'm gonna work with it and i'm gonna get back to you and anyway we we connected briefly again at ces so this is six months later and three months ago and he was like yeah you know we really want to work with you guys and you know what in fairness
Starting point is 01:05:55 everything i've heard from gary from the lab has been that nvidia has been taking feedback like like actually like really seriously um you know anytime we're we're finding any any odd behavior with the product or or bugs or whatever else um they they seem to the geforce team even though i i i've talked about actually well these these things actually kind of go together but the geforce team seems to still care a lot about gaming even if nvidia as a company has largely moved on to ai um and i talked about how i i would actually be really interested to see nvidia just split off g-force yeah as a separate entity that can just be scrappy and not have to have the same kinds of margins or else they're stock tanks or whatever else and just focus on gaming because those guys are passionate oh yeah they're passionate yeah so anyway we are um we are
Starting point is 01:06:48 working with nvidia on a sponsored video that is going to be upgrading our worst setups or our worst setup so we had people at the company submit their personal rig setups or work pc setups there are some you're gonna see some stuff personal setups um not everybody owns a vacuum
Starting point is 01:07:15 apparently I don't know that for sure but what I will say is I didn't see one and I didn't see evidence of one existing I feel like this should be two videos any who should just be reacting and judging to the systems the point is i was on my way to that shoot i forget how i got onto this topic and i was talking to dennis about the creative reads and i hadn't seen uh anything that was on youtube because i watch floatplane uh uh one quick thing the uh lt pro
Starting point is 01:07:47 hat in the pictures has holes oh okay it has the circles i don't know if it actually passes through but i'm seeing on on multiple people maybe it just maybe it just does have holes then maybe that's the thing either way it is definitely a layer of something under it because those might be structural it is definitely made of the water resistant material so make of that what you will yeah here i'm just gonna look at uh colton oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it has the hole still okay there you go i can actually even see through it i wonder why it has holes yeah i can definitely see through this one yep all right that it definitely has holes but it is made of the water resistant material all right uh where was yeah where was i going with
Starting point is 01:08:31 the story about uh oh yeah anyway well nvidia nvidia is back so we are they they are sponsoring a video upgrading our worst setup and yeah you guys are going to see some stuff uh i i you know i the person who i'm talking about will know who they are oh no and um is going to watch this i know that for a fact so you know i uh i didn't want to touch anything when i was there he's going to watch this yeah they're definitely going to watch this i think i know who it is don't you don't don't don't say anything because the video is going to start with us meeting all of the finalists and then it'll it'll go from there wow and uh and and all i know so far is that i have been to all the finalists setups i have seen all the setups um but we're gonna do we're gonna film um probably on tuesday we're gonna
Starting point is 01:09:35 film announcing to them who is going to be getting uh the setup upgrade and then we're gonna do some stuff and you elijah lmao everyone's saying it's me it's not i promise uh i will say this much it is not elijah there it's not elijah another merch message yeah hit me i don't even remember what that question was a sticker's bad basically okay oh yeah oh right wow whoa i either have a gift or a problem i just i'm enabling you to be perfectly honest it can be both it's okay to be both many businesses in the tech sector seem to be aiming to sell themselves off to a major player is there any subsection of the market maybe such as high-end leisure products that could avoid that future i mean as far as i can tell the point of starting a business is um to make money what and the best way to make money is to find
Starting point is 01:10:42 some sucker with a lot of money and take it off their hands for them. That's like how, yeah, that is the goal in software is to sell, generally. I mean, that's the goal in basically anything that's not mom and pop. And I feel like, I mean, I wasn't around when it was any different, but I feel like it wasn't always like that. i feel like it wasn't always like that like the point of running a business was to serve your customers and and and make money but but not make more than you make necessarily by by just selling to someone else um but part of it is like it seems to be driven both ways i've talked about this before but i have that friend who's a vet who bought the practice that she worked at and ended up bidding against a large veterinary acquisition company
Starting point is 01:11:26 and so it seems to be a push-pull right because on the one hand you've got people whose goal whose sole goal when they created their business was to sell it for as much as possible but then you've also got these acquisition companies who exist only to acquire other businesses not to create not to create anything and you know that can sometimes lead to really tragic results because someone who wasn't there and didn't build it with their sweat blood and tears is not necessarily going i shouldn't say not is never going to treat something with the same respect as someone who did and you see this time and time again warner brothers getting into our next topic here shut down roosterteeth now i want to kind of preface this with saying i didn't really consume
Starting point is 01:12:21 roosterteeth content i didn't follow any of the controversies that have taken place. I don't know if they were resolved and everything was cool or if they were not resolved. So there could be a myriad of reasons why Rooster Teeth shut down. But what we know for sure is Warner Brothers has has shut them down at least 150 full-time employees will lose their jobs um whoa and many of roosterteeth's existing properties will either be sold or transferred elsewhere within its parent company um warner brothers hasn't uh that hasn't been the only controversial move that Warner Bros. has made recently. Warner Bros. is also delisting an unknown number of game titles
Starting point is 01:13:11 originally published by another subsidiary, Adult Swim, according to several of the game's developers. Michael Mignarney? I think this might be a typo in my doc, but anyway. The creator of sound dodger plus says he begged his warner bros rep to transfer ownership of the game to him on steam rather than remove it since seeing as he still owned the ip and the game rights and this is a quote i sent him a link to steam's transfer page and explained clearly that it takes literally three clicks
Starting point is 01:13:43 to transfer the ownership to me he rejected my request so the problem with this is clearly that it takes literally three clicks to transfer the ownership to me, he rejected my request. So the problem with this is not that it necessarily affects the ability of the game to still be available. He can relist it himself because he owns the rights, which is really great. But he loses anyone who ever wish-listed the game. He loses all of the reviews of the game the historical reviews of the game another dev owen deary responded by offering a free download of his game small radios big televisions on his website rather than have it completely disappear um so our discussion question
Starting point is 01:14:19 is why would warner bros delist these games rather than just leaving them alone the only thing that i can possibly guess tax thing yeah that's one possible option uh speaking speaking of uh seamless transitions into other topics i definitely have some more to say about uh tax write-offs and tax deductions later on the show because anyway it's the whole thing this week from the uh from the we read mean comments video um but that that's one that's one potential option another one is they just uh don't want to fund development of these and make sure that they don't have any security potential liability i yeah i don't know i don't know i i it's hard for me to imagine a mindset where you have something that is as far as i can tell completely passive
Starting point is 01:15:13 um requires no input from you whatsoever and generates any amount of revenue however small and just going you know what I'll just turn that off. I don't get it. It doesn't make any sense to me. Does anyone have any additional context for this? Floatplane chat, anyone? I don't think so. I also don't think,
Starting point is 01:15:37 I think it's fairly accepted that games, especially single-player games, they're not going to get security updates past a certain point, and kind of who cares one dev according to on a head catch um was told that he could relist the game if he removed everyone in adult swim games from the credits like what i uh weird i don't get it very weird yeah i don't really get it um i i saw you kind of i saw you kind of googling um roosterteeth did were you were you checking if their controversies were resolved or what were you i looked that up um they like fired somebody for something and there's some other stuff but
Starting point is 01:16:17 there's they've existed for so long that there's like been stuff over the years it seems like they've mostly resolved it though uh this is what i was more recently looking at well adult swim games okay what are we looking at here robot unicorn attack one of my favorites oh okay the the rick and morty games there's a few of them in here uh rick and morty the virtual game thingy yeah and pocket morty's what else are we looking at i don't recognize i don't recognize most of these most of these that doesn't mean that it's okay we have no idea exactly i had no idea there was a robot unicorn attack too being delisted is it any good i don't know i don't know if i'll be able to know now i don't see number two on steam right now in fact i don't see any robot unicorn attack on
Starting point is 01:17:14 steam right now is it already is it already pulled i don't think i don't know i don't think the first one was ever on steam oh okay this isn't a list of their games that are on Steam. This is just a list of games. Well, where do you buy it? The first one you didn't buy. It was just a free web game. Oh, okay. Robot Unicorn Attack 2 is on mobile. Ah.
Starting point is 01:17:39 So maybe it's just like a mobile port that's not really a 2. I'm not sure. Not sure. Okay. maybe it's just like a mobile port that's not really a two or i'm not sure not sure but yeah that sucks any times anytime this kind of stuff happens it sucks um i like physical media physical media is good now if it's physical media that just like links you to a thing that you have to download from then then it is irrelevant and doesn't matter. But real physical media is good. 150 people working for Rooster Teeth. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It does seem like kind of a lot. How many shows and stuff did they have? I know they have their own dedicated website. So that'll be a chunk of it. I'm really not sure i i i don't know what the uh i don't know what the revenue model was bought by full screen which in turn was bought by otter media before research became part of warner media under at&t's ownership in 2022 discovery closed the acquisition of warner media to form warner bros discovery okay so it's
Starting point is 01:18:46 changed hands a lot whoa i don't really know how this works but i went to uh rooster teeth's website and clicked on shows and uh this this is a lot of stuff oh wow okay so is this stuff that people are watching loading wow i don't know how this stuff that people are watching? It's loading. Wow. I don't know how to tell that. Apparently, in addition to the 150 employees, there's also tons of contractors and stuff, too, that are getting the boot. This is so many different things.
Starting point is 01:19:19 I know at one point, they were killing it with their own streaming service. They had tens of thousands of monthly one point they were like killing it with their own streaming service like they were they had like tens of thousands of subscribers like monthly subscribers and stuff like that this is actually just getting to be ridiculous i'm wondering like how many episodes all these things have and is this actually all made by them like wow well how old is some of this stuff click something like yeah what's that how many episodes when's the last time this got an update
Starting point is 01:19:51 four seasons sorry not four okay play latest episode 2016 okay okay nice yeah okay oh not a single comment that's uh not a good indicator well okay uh yeah people are saying it seems like at some point roosterteeth had the mindset of green lighting just about anything and seeing what sticks uh arbiter k says if lmg sells please sell to good people and not to a warner bros type and that i think brings us full circle back around to the point that i was trying to make as i transitioned into this topic that there is nobody who would buy lmg who would treat it the way that we did and it's possible that we could find someone pretty good. I think that the party that made an acquisition offer, was it last year or the year before?
Starting point is 01:20:49 They seemed pretty good. They were pretty darn close to what we would be looking for if we were to do something like that. But I think as you guys have seen, we didn't do that. And instead, we've made significant reinvestments for the future. And we're sticking around whether you like it or not. So get over it. Something something taxes?
Starting point is 01:21:16 Are we done this topic or no? Oh, we can talk about taxes. Sure. Do you want to talk about taxes? Oh, there's more stuff. And no, there isn't. Never mind. Yeah, we can talk about taxes.
Starting point is 01:21:24 All right. What's up? So, in our line of... These mics are tax write-off. Yep. Basically free. Actually, I think they provided these mics. I don't think they're write-off at all.
Starting point is 01:21:37 You have to break them for them to become a tax write-off. These mic stands are tax write-off. Okay. Basically free. So, just a second. Can you just relax for a minute here? In the Linus reads mean comments video. He's shaking.
Starting point is 01:21:53 It's vibrating. I ended up going off a little bit at the end of the video. Yeah. Because Elijah put up not one, but many comments from people yes talking about how you know whatever linus just does whatever he does because it's a tax write-off it's a tax write-off yeah um true and so i i basically was like okay okay i need a money i i i need a money and I got a fake $100 bill. I even said it was fake
Starting point is 01:22:28 in the video. The number of people that didn't realize it was fake. How could you rip that? You're so rich you can just rip money? Ugh! You are not helping. So, I was like, okay, let's say I made $100 and I ripped it in half to demonstrate
Starting point is 01:22:44 that by the time you pay corporate income tax, personal income tax, and it doesn't quite work like that because I don't have to pay both personal income tax and corporate income tax. I either pay personal income tax and the company doesn't pay tax on the revenue, or i pay corporate income tax and then pay out a shareholder dividend that works out about the same so whatever so by the time you pay income tax to get it into my own hands and the various you know other taxes that we deal with around here sales tax and whatever uh we're down to about half by the time I actually get the money and use it for anything. And then I explained that if I use it to buy something, say, for example, a slate, like a video slate, then I spend $50 on that. OK, now I have a slate and then I still have to rip the remainder in half and I get only $25 of of my 100 to actually use and do anything with personally most people it seems like followed along pretty well but one of the comments was accusing me
Starting point is 01:23:55 of using my pool as a tax write-off you did really okay explain to me yeah this is not financial advice how i can use my pool as a tax write-off use it for work events it's in videos do you have any idea how far the cra would kick my rectum up into my body if I tried to write off my pool on my taxes. Used for work events? Used very specifically for multiple videos, really. I mean, your house could be just an entire tax write-off. We've shot videos in it before. Yeah. We could be making money.
Starting point is 01:24:42 You guys are actually behaving like ignorant viewers right now. That's what you guys are doing right now. That's the goal. I hate you so much, both of you. This will maybe make you feel better. Some people said that you didn't say that it was fake, and I had people go look at it, and you did say it was fake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Confirmed. I know I said it was fake. Of course I said it was fake. Confirmed. I'm not going to admit to a felony offense on camera not that stupid like writing off your pool like writing off my pool um so i just wanna i just wanna i just wanna back up a little bit here the number of people that think because people did point out that what i said was an oversimplification linus you don't have fifty dollars and taxes or twenty five dollars and taxes you have twenty five dollars and a slate and you paid some taxes and you paid you paid half as much tax. I thought you said that. I did, I did. But what they seem to have a hard time with
Starting point is 01:25:47 is that I do not have a slate. The company does. Linus Media Group Incorporated has a slate. Which he owns. I don't need a slate, though. I can't eat a slate. I can't drive a slate. I can't swim in a slate.
Starting point is 01:26:05 You could definitely drive a slate. I can't drive a slate. I can't swim in a slate. You could definitely drive a slate. So Linus Media Group Incorporated should own the pool in your car. No. Because, and so I will... You can rent it from the company. No. You set up a subsidiary corporation, which you own, that rents it from Linus Media Group, that then is paid for by Linus Media Group.
Starting point is 01:26:30 So it's like infinite money. This is not financial advice. If there was actually an infinite money glitch, everyone would use it. And all of this is going to vary depending on your tax jurisdiction but what i can tell you guys about ours is that no not every meal i eat is a tax write-off no not everything that i own is a tax write-off that's actually not how it works now i i will say this for the pool if we were to use the pool for a shoot okay what i could I could do. Yeah. Like a portion, whatever.
Starting point is 01:27:05 What I could do is if I were to set up a, like a, like a biz, a separate business entity or, or I, the person were to, were to, what's,
Starting point is 01:27:17 what's it called? Um, if I were just to operate as like an independent contractor and I were to reconcile all of this on my, my annual like personal taxes and everything what i could do is i the owner of the pool who paid for it with after tax money could make an invoice for the company billing the company to rent our pool as a location for a shoot and then the company could pay me and then i could report that income and then i could pay my income tax on that that is a way that i could subsidize the
Starting point is 01:27:54 construction of the pool but i could no no i could i could it's possible kind of like how if you uh if you have a house bad though if you have a house. Is it bad, though? If you have a house, you can write off part of either your mortgage or the interest on your mortgage. You can write off part of your house expense. It's an office. If you have a certain square footage that you use as an office space. That's what I do. Yes, that's totally legit as long as you're actually using it for work, for a revenue-generating enterprise. You put down a percentage of how much you used it in a year, right?
Starting point is 01:28:29 But, folks... No. Like, really? Oh, there's some good ideas in Twitch chat, though. What now? What if we hosted the after-party from the pool? Twitch, do we really need more hot tub streams okay is that really what you want yes oh hot tub super checks how'd i get it yeah now we're talking oh my god hot tub super the splash goals like after someone scores the like
Starting point is 01:29:06 big splash yeah and so hype dude so yeah minus ignoring us some people seem to understand that while that was an oversimplification that is basically how it works and there's a lot there's a lot of regulations that dictate what i'm allowed to write off and what I'm not allowed to write off. For example, the EV chargers that we have here at the office. If I install them in a parking stall that is designated for my use, I cannot expense those. And I cannot participate in any subsidies. What if you did for taron no however if they are for general reuse of the employees then oh wait no no hold on hold on this is the hold on hold on
Starting point is 01:29:56 this one was separate uh if if they if it is for my personal use then it counts as a taxable benefit that's right yeah so a taxable benefit is something that the company is something that the company pays for but that you the employee still have to pay personal tax on so if i were to as the business owner install an ev charger in a stall that only i can use then any money of the use of that charger and the electricity use counts as a taxable benefit for me that i have to declare on my personal taxes and pay tax on even though the company never actually gave me any cash so that's that's the kind of loophole closing that they do to make it so that i can't have luke who makes ten000 a year. So he only has to pay like zero income tax,
Starting point is 01:30:48 which would be nice. And then I just give him $40,000 a year in Costco gift cards and $10,000 a year in Cineplex gift cards. Wow. And $10,000 a year in steam gift cards. Wow. Right. I've got weird priorities.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Anything that has a cash equivalency, he would have to pay income tax on. You can't just pay people in gift cards and vacations and like, ha ha, we figured out the system. We beat the system. Whereas there is a carve out here in BC anyway, if we install an EV charger that is for anyone to use and does not belong to to any that is not in like a designated parking stall then nobody has to pay
Starting point is 01:31:33 has it has to count as a taxable benefit anyone can use it and and you just essentially get to charge for free on the well the company pays for it but um the company gets to write off our energy usage because that's not money we made you don't pay income tax on money you didn't make right so we write off the taxes and then they don't have to pay income tax so it's it's optimization but no one is actually no one is able to avoid paying taxes outright unless they are unless you're expensive unless you are doing something very either very clever or very illegal and so if you were to say well yeah but linus could just expense his car because he could write off his car because he shoots videos with it in it once in a while and he could write off his pool because they shoot videos once in a while yeah you could also walk into a grocery
Starting point is 01:32:25 store and f**king take everything in it you could but if anyone catches you then it's going to be a problem unless you live in california you could not return the shopping no if you took everything in it you would exceed the the limit and i mean that's true yeah yeah groceries are really expensive that's a whole thing yeah you probably couldn't even get like two grocery carts thanks that's uh life sucks you know why life sucks because we can't expense our pools that's why god it's so difficult being wealthy and rich um duck 3269 says at linus during the wan show you talked about potentially buying a samsung the wall luke said it's stupid for anyone to pay that much for a tv and you said it's not going to be that much because you will make some videos to subsidize
Starting point is 01:33:17 the cost statements like this make it seem like you're buying expensive things and using making videos as a way of subsidizing the cost i am yeah even if i have to pay even if i even if i have to pay tax on the income if i get content out of it i'm gonna make money on the content that's that's super above board yeah that's fine the government actually really wants you to do that yeah if they're they want more money to move around because when more money moves around more taxes move around that's like the whole point of the economy is to buy things yeah elijah bro he wouldn't have bought the 115 inch tv if he couldn't make a fucking video guys 99 of the tech that i acquire is to make a video the camera that you are watching this through the laptop in front of me this stream deck weird fun fact yeah his house was less of a tech disaster
Starting point is 01:34:16 back when we didn't make videos about it yeah because i just it was like actually fine and everything worked uh and he even had like... You'd have like a controller die and he'd be like, I have a solution for this. I have the world's biggest battery charger and 17 Eneloops and we can just immediately solve the problem. And everything worked all the time and there was batteries for everything and everything was fine.
Starting point is 01:34:37 And then now he makes videos about it and everything's... Well, the problem is that other people who don't have to live their work on the videos. Ah, okay. I mean, that makes sense. And so so but so you wouldn't have to do that if you didn't do this whole thing but the content's good so you do it anyways i do it on purpose i i suffer for you i uh i i i legitimately love new tech and i love tinkering around with things and and it's not like we're not doing things that i'm approving or are or are my idea in the first place but i would a lot of what we do is done the way that we do it because who else would do it that way i did not need to use solar panels, and server heat to augment my pool heating.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I didn't. That's stupid. You didn't need to use your pool to cool your server room. No, not even a little. There's a lot of other ways to do it. Easier, cheaper. Way cheaper, way easier. I could have just put air conditioning in there. In fact, I have air conditioning capacity for that room i choose not to use it a because i
Starting point is 01:35:50 feel like it's pretty stupid to air condition in the winter when you could just move the heat through much more energy efficient means okay like you know yeah cool yeah i like it and and b because that's lame when you could put a water cooling loop in your server room um so yes if you if you have a conspiracy theory that i do things on hard mode just because it's hard mode and because it's more fun that way you're right i was just gonna say yeah the amount of times we've been like here's a video idea it will be a banger and he's like uh too easy like okay all right oh man it's great um oh sponsor oh yeah speaking of uh speaking of tax write-offs let's write off this message
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Starting point is 01:41:41 With more and more places asking for biometrics to log in what happens when a database of fingerprints gets hacked do i need new fingers theoretically the biometric services that you're using assuming you're talking about your iphone for example theoretically the way that it works is that the actual fingerprint itself is not stored on that third-party server it's just just a value is created from that fingerprint and then it ensures locally on your device that you are close enough and then it sends an authentication token that's like yes you biometrically authenticated and we made sure that you did that but you're not actually just shipping your fingerprint to anyone however there are exceptions to that for example
Starting point is 01:42:32 i applied to renew my uh my nexus card uh yesterday and you very much in a government database are storing your actual biometric information. So I, I didn't scan my fingerprint into my computer when I, when I signed up for it, but that just reminded me that there are definitely places where there are gigantic treasure troves of real biometric data.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Government acts are that brutal. And they happen. Did you do the retina? They have my retinas. Nice. You can get new eyes. Yeah, that's easy. I don't think I've done the retina scan.
Starting point is 01:43:13 That's for air travel. With U.S. border services. They definitely have facial ID for me and they definitely have fingerprints for me, but I don't think they have anything else. Man, the number of countries that have my fingerprints is very unsettling if i ever decided to be a criminal i would have to be the kind that takes uh takes a belt sander to the old meat paws ouch yeah i think though a thing definitely a thing yeah prove i haven't already now luke's mind contains my fingerprints too yeah or wear gloves look we don't have a policy on that says gold to us can we 2fa your fingerprints please
Starting point is 01:43:54 linus isn't allowed to show his you gotta unlock your phone pads of his fingers to the camera anymore oh yeah there you go uh any updates on the uv reflective or blocking shirt you mentioned in the past it might be dead oh i'm very sorry so what happened was there was a bit of a miscommunication um we were not moving forward with the original supplier for it due to um things that were not our fault and while i love the sample shirt that i have we were we were not able to reach an agreement on moving forward with the mass production run so we went in search of a new supplier for it and somewhere in there uh my requirements for the garment were not fully communicated and we've got a new supplier and we've got a new fabric but while it has the uv blocking properties of the original fabric
Starting point is 01:44:55 and a very similar hand feel good stretch characteristics everything's fine what it doesn't have is the antimicrobial properties of the original garment, which was part of what I loved so much about it. So I could just wear this thing to the beach, go out swimming in the ocean, not do anything, just dry off and not stink and not be sunburned. It is a flipping awesome garment. awesome garment however there are problems with antimicrobial clothing um construction techniques you can put an antimicrobial uh treatment on it but realistically that's going to wash off in 20 washes 30 at most if you're if you're lucky anything you see advertised as antimicrobial or in most cases waterproof it's just it's just a coating and given that um man what was that like really good there's a lot of really like high-end scotch guard doesn't exist anymore not the way that it used to
Starting point is 01:45:56 which is a good thing because of how many people like died um it's a whole thing no idea that's a whole rabbit hole scotch guard as you know it on the shelf today is not scotch guard huh yeah it was like birth defects and like a whole thing yeah the point is that these coatings are they're they're nonsense they're not they're not intrinsic to the materials so i don't feel comfortable advertising them so we could have done that but we're not going to do that now there are alternatives the thing that made the original garment antimicrobial was that it had a bamboo component to the fabric itself. But what our compliance person, who I don't know if they're off probation or not,
Starting point is 01:46:38 and Tatiana, our materials specialist, have informed me of is that bamboo bamboo even though theoretically it's a super renewable resource um in most cases the production of fabrics using bamboo is extremely environmentally harmful unless they're in like a closed system that involves recapture of some kind of something or other and yes you know cotton is too but bamboo is apparently horrible bamboo fabrics weird so um they basically presented that to me and were like so um you know it's your call and i was like no bamboo silver is an option but silver has recently been found, because of the size of the particles, to have potential detrimental health effects on the people who wear it. So any silver in the fabric, not an option now that we know what we know about it. Yeah, Grisildor in Philippine Chat said, my wife is a biochemist PhD and teaches slash researches the microbiome.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Don't get antimicrobial stuff. And as far my understanding goes yeah that's like a thing because you're you have as like icky it is as it is you're covered in it all the time well i mean there's good stuff i you want to kill the good stuff i doubt that just from wearing a loose fitting garment it's not a shirt right it goes on top well is that right it's it's it was like a super light hoodie so it was very loose fitting and with the amount of body hair that i and probably a lot of you have realistically it's not like it's killing everything on your skin it's more that it's more that whatever gets off of your skin onto it is not going to just fester there right um so i'm not i'm not i'm not actually worried about that aspect of
Starting point is 01:48:31 it but and like i don't know i don't know yeah and people are saying it's almost like things harmful to microbes are also harmful to humans i'm not convinced that bamboo containing fabric is particularly harmful to humans i seriously doubt it but i um but yeah basically we're not we're not doing it uh merino wool has strong antimicrobial properties as well but is very expensive to the point where that garment would be like 150 sun hoodie and like come on what do we even people already hate we we make cool merino wool things people like it's really expensive it's like yeah it's really expensive really expensive i don't know especially when you like i'll make the rules do cool things with it because as far as my understanding goes it's difficult to
Starting point is 01:49:11 work with so like yeah if you try to make more complex better designs it gets more difficult and more expensive so a pretty scary rate i've asked them if we can do it um yeah if if we can if we can do it if we can find a source for a bamboo based fabric that does the recapture thing or whatever i still i still want to do it but i um i think it's dead for now but hey positive side i've got mine already i mean it's a write-off darn it that that is why we that is why we develop things sometimes because it's just a thing that i want epic all right next up i think last one last one yeah uh hey guys i've been loving my screwdriver have you guys noticed issues with ddr5 on and platforms compared to intel i feel like it's
Starting point is 01:50:15 worse boot times on amd oh i think you're talking about the memory training issues on am5 um i don't consider it to be a huge problem but the first time that you boot up an am5 system there can be a long and i mean long like sometimes minutes long memory training period where the system does not indicate in any meaningful way that it is doing anything and just sits there seeming like it's just on but not outputting anything and doing nothing and then suddenly boop it works and then every time you reboot after that it's quite a bit faster i'd love for them to make that better and smoother it would seem like a more you know mature refined experience if they did but i don't think it's the end of the world because i haven't found overall on a well-optimized bios that subsequent boot
Starting point is 01:51:05 times are really any are really any worse so minor problem in my humble opinion dan oh you want you want a fourth merge message yeah sure hit us with one more okay um what does luke think were the best and worst linus lead development ideas linus led development ideas and can linus guess what they are it's been a while i don't even remember we haven't done things like that in a long time no matter what indisputable and if you disagree with me you're actually wrong one i know that one for sure but like doing float plane at all uh okay i didn't go that far but okay yeah i mean i'm i'm sure there were some terrible ideas on the forum uh remember when we remember when we launched like a half-baked um like way of way of getting rid of old like uh equipment like we did like auctions on like live auctions on
Starting point is 01:52:08 the forum that was something live auctions yeah remember it was they were live they were after the wanshow i thought it was garage sale i thought we just announced it for sale though i didn't realize there was an auction we remember we would sit there and we would like adjust the pricing we've done some stuff i know we've done some really weird stuff no live streaming the thing we're doing right now i really wish we didn't go down this route um but look at the float plane people look how happy they are yeah okay but we show them how happy we could have had a chat some some love some love in the. We could have had a chat. Some love in the chat. We could have had a chat that enables when the live stream is live on other platforms.
Starting point is 01:52:48 They would like it better like this. I mean, Luke, it's a tax write-off. It's so... I think it is. My husband is ignoring my phone call for your show. Please let Martin Nguyen know that his dinner's in the fridge. Randy, your sticks! Oh, oh man that's an old reference that is an old reference um yeah i don't know there's other stuff like that most of it's like
Starting point is 01:53:18 the the problem was that we were trying to make a verified actual gamer program that was linus led development that was linus led development that was pretty cool that's pretty cool i think that's probably the best one in my opinion that one was pretty good yep i'm not against that i wish we could have gotten more support for it wasn't actually for floatplane no that was entire full plane actually hadn't but they didn't say floatplane they just said best linus led development ideas fair yeah yeah yeah i really liked that that was a cool project and i i wish we got more use out of it but it wasn't a one-off it was at least four times i think more even no there was
Starting point is 01:53:53 the text one there was the picture one yeah the game the game was used multiple times and there was there was one where it was mixed of text and pictures okay so we did three before the game and then the game got at least the game got two or three plays i don't remember how i think two okay yeah it wasn't that many i do wish the game got more ease i do wish that more gpu makers had actually yeah cared yeah about their gpus ending up in the hands of gamers at a reasonable price. I think it was pretty clear by the end of it that the whole thing was kind of lip service because it's not like we did that
Starting point is 01:54:31 to make money. We made very little money. In fact, by the time you factor in the development cost We probably lost money. I'm not going to say we lost money, but we also got some RMAs and stuff like that. There was a bunch of development time. Okay, we probably Let's say If you also account for opportunity costs of that development time not just that
Starting point is 01:54:49 sure yeah then we definitely lost money but that's not losing money that's losing opportunity not making other money yeah so you know i i try to be words mean what they mean i try to be careful with them for the most part yeah what nothing go ahead say it nothing why don't we talk about our new ct scanner yeah what is this cool or what it's i mean the images from it are sick oh this thing is so cool did anyone put any information about it? Did we even name them? Nope. You guys, hold on a second. Elijah's asking, can I scan my head?
Starting point is 01:55:43 No. It's x-rays, you f you definitely i think we should try that no i mean with the amount of times he's hit it it's probably just empty fascinating okay so hold on just this endless void mom says it's my turn with the brain cell okay so these are the guys that we're working with uh luma field so we got the neptune well it looks cool too ct scanner y'all what looks super cool uh basically uh what it does is it um at varying exposure times slash i'm not sure if the energy level actually varies, but the exposure time definitely varies.
Starting point is 01:56:31 It moves around an object, blasts it with x-rays and spits out an extremely high fidelity 3D view of whatever object you put inside it so i believe the one we have is the uh neptune x-ray vision for engineers yeah um from talking to lucas from the lab who it seems has spent most of the time with it so far the largest object we can do is about the size of a basketball so unfortunately it's not big enough for us to do something like a laptop, but we could do something like a smartphone. Do you have any issues with magnetic stuff around it when it's going? Nope. Because of the box, that's not a problem?
Starting point is 01:57:18 Apparently, the exposure outside of the box is less than you would experience by quite a lot than just sitting on an airplane. Okay, yeah. Yeah,'s it's no big deal um oh but that's not the here we go so what you're saying is it's elijah headside seriously no dan nobody is saying that elijah's saying that if we if we like i said okay nobody who is allowed to make those kinds of decisions is saying that there mike d says i work at a university with a whole department dedicated to studying brain injuries send elijah my way could we use that as a tax write-off no they could no that's not how any of this works we'll hire a media consultant we'll have to make a video it'd be advertising
Starting point is 01:58:11 i hate you we're gonna be in the green for once we can afford new microscopes amazing we're doing business the funny thing is you guys are memeing a lot of other people in the comments are going to be memeing because they know how much i get triggered by this kind of tax write-off but a significant number after i did the spiel like a significant amount of the comment section is still well it's like completely do not they don't it's like they don't want to understand one of the things is that i think you you are operating above board but a lot of people aren't uh and there's like this whole thing going on right now where like the irs was partially defunded in the states we don't live in the states but the irs was partially defunded in the states and apparently
Starting point is 01:59:01 a bunch of people were getting away with like improperly doing tons of tax write-offs, but maybe they're going after them now or something or whatever, I don't know. Sure, let me put it this way. I am not a small enough fish that I could possibly hope to get away with that. Our companies have been audited all of them multiple times in the time we've been running them.
Starting point is 01:59:21 And if we had anything, if we had anything even approaching the egregiousness of trying to write off a home renovation i would get f**ked like six ways sideways every bad way the cra does not f**k around yeah it's a little different so it's a little different because like i've i've heard stories from other people in the industry and other people doing business stuff in general that are like pretty crazy in regards to how they deal with taxes and write-offs and all this other type of stuff it's all americans in my experience i think i think their whole tax code being so insanely complicated kind of works both ways there's like no way to do it right so they can
Starting point is 02:00:12 screw you over no matter what but also there's no way to do it right so people are just gonna do a lot of stuff wrong anyways so like i i, I don't know. I think it's bad on both ends. Pretty much. But, I mean, I don't know, because I don't have to deal with them. Oh, man. I'm so annoyed. Dan, yeah, confirmed. We have to use that one app.
Starting point is 02:00:38 We cannot use a different one, and that's very, very annoying. Yeah. Luke, what? Seriously? This is new. I think so sorry where did this whole can we deal with this on monday conversation even start uh because i was logging into my work account before the show and it told me i have one more warning before i must use this and then i used up my one which work account well this one uh the maker of this tool yeah yeah yeah so this so i'm type can we yeah i mean we'll talk about it we can do with this monday but okay
Starting point is 02:01:21 so is there is there no other option for the app for this no well that's stupid yeah and i'm very unhappy about it i have to have an entirely separate app just for this one stupid login okay hate app bloat i don't like extra apps I think I kind of like this actually explain I don't know if I can right now but I think I kind of like this I'm interested
Starting point is 02:01:55 we'll talk later well I think you know which side of this battle I want to win right and there's reasons why this one is currently winning but I don't want that one to win I want the other one to win right and there's reasons why this one is currently winning but I don't want that one to win I want the other one to win yeah
Starting point is 02:02:11 so stuff like this is great for me because my team's losing and after all that I don't have access to the SharePoint share that Lucas sent to me why is it on SharePoint? I don't know i'm just trying to click a link in the doc luke it's not supposed to be a sharepoint computers it took me this long
Starting point is 02:02:31 to click a link in the doc he's supposed to be using google drive okay well somebody using sharepoint yeah do i have to break fingers yeah oh my god actually like you should make a note for monday i don't even have a, I don't even have it. There was a prompt to request access to it and I'm not getting a prompt anymore. That's because it's SharePoint. I'm not even getting a prompt. I am so upset right now. I'm sending a scheduled message to this person and it's just all capitals.
Starting point is 02:03:00 I'm coming for your fingers. No, you can't. No, you can't do that. I will ask Ariana to tell me where they live and just go there after wancho you guys can't do that i don't even think you can joke about that i think the gas for that trip is a tax write-off there you go i'll use the company car and then the overtime well the thing is that you will have one less employee to pay so i'm like i'm saving your money it'll be two yeah because i'll be in jail double tax write-off that's not a tax write-off oh yeah that's just being business savvy and
Starting point is 02:03:39 saving your money yeah which might be a tax write-off if you think about it anyway uh i can't show you the scan of the mouse because it is in sharepoint and i don't have access to it but this is the inside of that promotional d brand rubik's cube how cool is that so you're seeing like the uh uh the magnets for aligning it or something like that and then you're seeing the internal gear mechanism for rotating it around yeah luke rubik's cube oh yeah that picture is sick really like that super cool uh here we go here we go here's a noctua edition ltd screwdriver on an overnight so this is a 12-hour scan the longer you go uh the more detail you can get so here it is pretty sick and there's there's things that we can refine there's things that we can fine-tune uh one of the things that we agreed
Starting point is 02:04:38 to was that for the first three months uh anything that we're going to publish in a video we would send it to them to make sure that like everything was set correctly because this is a this is a real tool it's a professional tool you can there's a lot of parameters that you can adjust but oh my gosh how cool is that that's it that's the ratchet mechanism there's the bit storage that's pretty absolutely love it uh oh my god uh i mean dang it um uh maybe hold on i really want to show you guys uh okay i hate this but i'm downloading a file from teams then i'm gonna have to upload it to drive then i'm gonna have to open it on there because i'm not logged into teams on this for what are probably fairly obvious reasons what if you just have them send it to that email
Starting point is 02:05:30 at this point i can email it to myself faster than i can have someone else send me the stupid thing so i'm just gonna do it myself sounds good um okay all right hold on now i gotta reply i love coordinating stuff like this on the mic. Yes, thanks. Okay. Anyway, that's the internals. Oh, here's a metal 3D printed key cap scanned for 80 minutes. Pretty cool as well. Guys, how freaking cool is this?
Starting point is 02:05:58 And it's a grain. It's apparently super accurate, like super accurate, like to within point one some things i can't remember what they are but they're small um really excited about this man the options are endless and what would you guys like to see us use it for oh my god we're not doing tax write-off shirts could you tax write off the shirt? What if you hired a consultant to do the design? I mean, yeah, we can write that off. Very wise.
Starting point is 02:06:40 We will help you business. We're going to be a business factory factory together we will become a real company is this what my mom always says get a real job can we have is this a real job now can we talk about the cool ct scanner now okay can we talk can we talk about the cool luma field ct scanner that is really cool what's what's your favorite that they're letting us use that what what's your favorite thing you scanned um like is rubik's cube your your favorite one so far well i don't know it might be the mouse but i haven't seen it yet did you write off the rubik's cube no that's what are you even talking about you're not even trying to make it kind of make sense anymore what do you mean it's a it's a prop it's probably it was probably on one of the shelves and one of
Starting point is 02:07:28 the backgrounds of one of the videos i'm suspecting someone didn't bring the rubik's cube from home look i'm gonna be honest with you here the rubik's cube i i didn't pay for it at all d brand sent it and it doesn't even no offense d brand but it's worthless we i don't think we declared it i don't even know where it is i i don't i don't care i don't care about that rubik's cube i don't bother to build the company when we use my house as a location it's not it doesn't it doesn't register luke i don't care about the rubik's cube i hate you guys so much screwdriver though screwdriver looks really cool it does actually that the whatever
Starting point is 02:08:11 12 hour scan one is pretty wicked yeah uh okay how it picked up the knurling and stuff is pretty cool okay here it is here's mouse1.mp4 finally flipping so wait what's happening on the right right now not sure let me move you guys sounds like something a big nerd would know oh it's moving it's moving yeah it's it's like going through it so the the left is like the final image and the right is i think so how it's like building the images. Yeah, the slices. Yeah. Freaking cool, man.
Starting point is 02:08:49 That's pretty wild. Freaking cool. Where are the... Okay, I see at the bottom there. That makes sense. So we can see the internal trace layout of a PCB potentially. Not on anything super complex in all likelihood, but on something relatively simple like
Starting point is 02:09:05 a mouse yeah so the switches are so small small small boys or as i call them line of size boys uh okay what are we supposed to be talking about now samsung samsung samsung samsung Samsung. Samsung, Samsung, Samsung. Okay, they are doing some of the coolest display development right now. Quantum Dot OLED technology is amazing. We did a sponsored video for them around the time of CES for Samsung Display, which, by the way, is not the same thing as Samsung Electronics.
Starting point is 02:09:42 So we worked with Samsung Display. We hung out with those guys a little bit at ces i shouldn't say hung out we went to their booth we went to their booth at ces um i i i genuinely like i would have been happy to make that video without a sponsorship check i don't even care i love this tech it's so cool qd oled amazing samsung electronics what are you doing bud they announced their upcoming oled tv lineup but for unknown reasons the company has apparently chosen not to state whether a given television uses a quantum dot oled panel the kind that samsung display makes or a w oled panel the kind that LG display makes. While all of Samsung's high-end S95C TVs will be QD OLED,
Starting point is 02:10:31 its mid-range S90D series will apparently be sometimes QD OLED and sometimes W OLED. Samsung has previously heavily advocated for quantum dots both for color purity and for avoiding burn-in which appear to be very legitimate advantages of their technology but according to korean media outlet the elec samsung has decided not to explicitly advertise their tvs as qd oled due to a request from lg display not to position white their TVs as QD OLED due to a request from LG Display not to position white OLED as inferior to QD OLED. What the actual f*** is going on?
Starting point is 02:11:13 I put this in as a topic because I get so flipping upset every time a brand obfuscates the underlying technology of what's being used with a deceptive naming scheme and we've seen this time and time again remember when um okay very recently amd not very recently on an ongoing basis amd has created a different um numbering scheme for their mobile processors compared to their desktop processors so that you can't compare across generations and know what exact... know what generation of zen architecture they're using even though traditionally the model number has gone up to correspond with a move from zen to zen plus to zen 2 to zen 3 to zen 4 and i'm trying to think of some other really good examples of this i mean nvidia's had some gpus where you might get uh one architecture you might get another one, and the performance characteristics can be different across them.
Starting point is 02:12:27 We've seen from, man, I'm trying to think now. I'm pretty sure Intel has pulled this nonsense at some point or another where at the low end, they were using a previous architecture, even though it had the same like family name in the branding, like the same generational branding. And I just, it drives me absolutely crazy because I don't have to, like I don't imagine, right? I don't imagine for a second
Starting point is 02:12:58 that when I buy the low-end product, I'm getting exactly the same thing as the high-end one. I mean, sure, if I buy the, you know, whatever 90 instead of the 95, I thing as the high-end one i mean sure if i buy the you know whatever 90 instead of the 95 i might be getting lower end processing i might not be getting as many uh hdmi inputs uh it might not be available with the same degree of anti-glare coating technology or whatever but if i'm buying this generation of product my expectation is that i'm
Starting point is 02:13:22 getting the low-end version of that not that i'm getting a completely different thing and i don't think that that's an unfair expectation i think that that should be a baseline expectation yeah that's all i have to say about that yeah discussion question is if customers are getting an equally good product does it matter that they don't know or understand the difference between two products that are being sold as the same thing? But that's the thing. They are getting an also good product. WOLED has advantages. When we're talking pure brightness, WOLED can achieve higher highs, especially on white. And you know what? A lot of your specular highlights,
Starting point is 02:14:08 a lot of your pinpoint stars, or, you know, whatever, a lot of the things that are really bright in the scene happen to be white. And so they can achieve really... It's something like fire, like the really bright points of it might be white. They can achieve really amazing performance in HDR,
Starting point is 02:14:23 which is how we're evaluating the latest generation of displays, because they're all going to do a great job of SDR anyway. So we want to see how well they do in HDR. Also, LG's own TV. So again, LG display, LG electronics, not the same thing. But LG electronics displays, as we saw when we checked out that Flanders Scientific display, can do a great job, even though they have, you know, inferior panel technology when it comes to color brightness, because that's the thing that QD OLED does so well, is when you're talking about the brightest possible representation of a pure color, QD OLED is superior to W OLED, because it's not washed out by that white subpixel when it's trying to achieve that level of brightness.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Red is just the red subpixel going full bore baby not red with some a little bit of white in there let me just sneak a little bit of white in there mix things and so it's not about superior or inferior even necessarily it's about understanding what the fuck i'm buying and my understanding when i was buying a samsung tv was i was getting if it was oled i was getting qd oled and samsung has marketed it really heavily so for them to do this about face so that they can you know not make their w oled panel based tvs look too bad is really frustrating like by all means have w oled panels but just tell me that's what it is and market it as such because they're not the same thing creating confusion so that it basically amounts to creating confusion it's
Starting point is 02:15:56 intentional it's not like this is accidental oopsie day blue like at this point why did you even make white OLED well because LG display if they stop running the fabs is basically like la hooped and so if I had to guess I would say it's because LG display needs to sell panels Samsung Electronics moves a lot of TVs and so they've done a deal to move LG panels, and as part of that business arrangement, this kind of makes sense, there's a combination of what's being reported here, which is that LG has asked, hey, respectfully, if you're going to buy our product,
Starting point is 02:16:38 don't take a big f***ing dump on it in your marketing, right? So part of it is that, and another part of it is that from samsung electronics's standpoint they're sitting here going well if we just market everything oled as oled and we're getting a deal from uh life's desperate over there hey lg has spent the last eight years hyping oled why don't we just stop talking about the differences in the different kinds of oled and we can take these discount oled panels position them you know right alongside ours charge a premium price for the display and
Starting point is 02:17:18 no one's the wiser so there's so samsung electronics has their own incentive for not positioning QD OLED as that much better than W OLED because you got to understand Samsung Display, Samsung Electronics, yes, they are definitely related and they definitely co-benefit each other. But Samsung Electronics has to buy panels from Samsung Display, and it's in their best interest to take as much of the margin of that finished product away from Samsung Display and into Samsung Electronics because that makes them look good. And they don't ultimately care nearly as much about how Samsung Display looks. So if they can use LG Display to put pressure on Samsung Display so that they can get better deals across the board, they're going to do that. Regardless of whether LG asks them not to make w oled look bad so there's a
Starting point is 02:18:11 whole complicated dynamic at play here but at the end of the day it's all about making money and none of it is about helping consumers understand what the f**k they're buying and that's what I don't like. There. And none of this is a tax write-off. Stop. Although there are plenty of tax incentives and tax write-offs in the operation of their businesses, I'm sure. I'm sure lots. Yeah. Especially in South Korea.
Starting point is 02:18:38 Yeah. Like, the whole, you know, the government and the big companies things. Well, it's something. It sure is. Speaking of something, Microsoft suddenly drops Windows 11's Android app support. Yeah, how about that? On March 5th, Microsoft unexpectedly announced
Starting point is 02:18:53 that next year it would be ending support of the Windows subsystem for Android, which allows Android apps to be used on Windows 11. The next day, the Windows subsystem was no longer available for download the feature debuted in 2022 but it always lacked formal access to the google play store which was the whole issue to be clear meaning that users typically relied on the amazon app store while microsoft has not stated the reason for the decision it's broadly expected to be a result
Starting point is 02:19:23 of low usage levels particularly due to microsoft no longer producing consumer focused tablets discussion question is microsoft right to drop this feature or should they simply have invested more into making it popular i have an alternative weird theory which is that they might be trying to get their own android app store going but actually now that i think about it that's a bad theory so i take it back um i think it's just low usage um supporting features that no one sucked or no one uses sucks uh you have devs working on this thing and and a lot of developers want to work on something that people actually use um so you you might have like a literal morale issue if you get people to focus on using this or maintaining this thing that people don't utilize anyways. And that sucks. And then just like, why are you wasting your time supporting this thing that is mostly supporting Amazon anyways?
Starting point is 02:20:19 And no one's using. I just couldn't find a real reason to use it. We wanted to make a video about it. I was either earlier this year or sometime last year. If it had access to the Google play story, it would be sick, but it shouldn't matter anyway, because couldn't you just use an APK anyway?
Starting point is 02:20:38 Not everything has those available. Um, every time I've looked for one, I've been able to find one, but I'm not are you sure it's not something i've done often yeah there's just like apk repository sites and some of them seem real but not advice uh some of them have seemed reasonably trustworthy and i've downloaded things from them and not had any problems yeah i don't know if most people want
Starting point is 02:21:03 to do that though like i think your install base of people doing that's gonna be really low yeah that's fair yeah i just i just couldn't find i couldn't find any reason to use it compared to apps that are readily available on windows already or phone link yeah that too someone mentioned that full page out i didn't think about myself but it's a it's a good argument i just i don't know anyone that uses it if it had access to google play store i would probably use it um but i don't want to use the amazon store that's a whole different rabbit hole though um speaking of things being disabled roku disables tvs until users accept new terms involving forced arbitration and worse what the heck this week many users found themselves unable to access the roku tvs unless they accepted
Starting point is 02:21:52 new dispute resolution terms roku's terms have had a forced arbitration clause for some time but the company quietly changed its terms as of February the 20th to require a further step of informal dispute resolution where anyone with a legal complaint must first call and discuss the issue with Roku's lawyers, even before seeking formal arbitration. Users will likely only have a narrow window of time to opt out of the new terms, which Roku requires to be sent to them
Starting point is 02:22:25 via snail mail huh uh discussion question is how much does intentional inconvenience prevent people from exercising their rights how can you in my opinion the tv my opinion, this is just waiting for a challenge. This is just waiting for a class action. I hope they get dunked on. This is crazy. They're basically going up
Starting point is 02:22:56 at a baseball game. They're in the crowd. They're pulling down their trousers. They're calling the pitcher's name. They're pulling down their trousers. You know, they're calling the pitcher's name. And they're pulling down their pants. They're turning around.
Starting point is 02:23:10 They're going, take a shot. Come on. I think they're going to get a hundred mile an hour fastball up the butt. Where is that from? Is that from something? Do you just make that up? I mean, it's from, you know, baseball. Where is that from? Is that from something? Do you just make that up? I mean, it's from, you know, baseball.
Starting point is 02:23:33 I'm sure someone's pulled down their pants at a baseball game once. Do you just think of these things while you go get snacks? Look, a bird got killed by Randy Johnson. There's no way no one's ever pulled down their pants at a baseball game. Those things being related is amazing. No, I just mean that the odds the odds are i love that you know i you know planes kill birds all the time yeah there's probably someone who has pants themselves in the middle of an aisle on a plane it's probably happened yeah exactly yeah it totally makes sense it totally makes sense you've seen that clip of Randy Johnson hitting the bird, right? It's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 02:24:05 I thought it was fake. For years. I'm like, oh no, that actually happened. That's unbelievable. Pretty wild. There is baseball in Canada. It just sucks. It's called basketball up here. Stop it. Basketball?
Starting point is 02:24:24 Man, that's the kind of movie that I would not want to go back and re-watch as not uh you know 14 year old yeah it's probably terrible probably doesn't hold up that well yeah i remember it fondly but me too and everything i remember i will not go back and watch yeah it's probably it would not convince me to re-watch it yeah i mean hey it's one of those ones where there's a big difference between what professional film critics thought and what the audience thought i often like those movies yeah what just happened what even is this website yep that's uh i mean that tells you everything you need to know yeah the fact that he's holding two of those and where he's holding them yep yep anyway yep nice nice okay what are we supposed to be talking about nikon buys red yeah i know
Starting point is 02:25:22 red digital cinema what see you later acquired by nikon is this a good thing do we like this i i think we just don't care i think no one really cares about red anymore and so yeah it's one of those things that's sort of noteworthy because it's like oh yeah i remember red you know when they were making waves and big films were using red cameras and then like prominent online creators were like cool you know red cameras we should on red now how many ak how many k's how many k's can you make and then crispy red just didn't do anything for a long time and to completely faded from relevance remember the red phone i know right a completely faded from relevance and i just kind of forgot they existed like sony is completely eaten the
Starting point is 02:26:18 sort of low-end filmmaker space uh ari never really seems to have regarded red as anything other than a minor inconvenience um who else exists exactly by the way mike d and philip panasonic said july 16th 1990 steve lyons of the chicago white socks pulled down his pants after making it to first base he's lucky he didn't get a baseball in there yeah you never know oh come on black magic i think black magic is more interested in the ecosystem than cameras these days yeah and like doing like their green screen stuff is so cool yeah that was an acquisition the The one that we have upstairs. It's so cool.
Starting point is 02:27:06 So cool. My goodness, that's cool. Yeah, hardware accelerated, baby. Although I got to imagine the next level of that is going to be AI accelerated and it's going to absolutely blow your brainstem away. Yeah, probably. Canon apparently does cinema cameras too.
Starting point is 02:27:21 Oh. All right, shows you what I know. Imagine just being able to describe. Meanwhile, the WAN show literally shot on C200s totally forgot about them yeah there's that sony's killing it man what cameras can we put somewhere not feel sad about um yeah uh i have a c100 yeah that's not great those were we use those for a while yeah um linux hits an all-time high according to research firm star counter linux has reached a historic 4.03 of desktop os is worldwide don't crap on that four percent is a freaking lot it's it's more than a lot of desktops yeah uh not including chrome os by the way which i thought that was it when i first read this i was like yeah it's chrome os no chrome os accounts for another
Starting point is 02:28:14 2.31 percent linux also shows strong upward momentum having only passed three percent of global market share in june 2023. That's actually massive momentum. That's crazy. Much of the recent growth in Linux comes from adoption overseas, such as in India, where Linux is the second most popular desktop OS after Windows, with over 15%
Starting point is 02:28:38 market share. In comparison, Linux has a 3.85% desktop share in the u.s pretty cool wow 15 it's huge now what i'd like to know and i i don't know if this is addressed in any of the coverage ars technica did a good article about it um i don't know if this is addressed in any of the coverage but what i would like to know is are they counting something like a steam deck yeah there's a note in here asking essentially the same thing i suspect they would be they they might be but because apparently the data is collected from web
Starting point is 02:29:17 traffic so i think it would be so then it's also possible that steam decks would be massively undercounted because the steam deck is first and foremost a game console it's a it's a console everything about it is designed to be a console to the greatest degree that valve was able to achieve that from the instant wake to the uh power optimization it's it's yeah you can plug it into a dock you put a keyboard and mouse in there. A lot of people aren't going to do that. They're just going to game. They're just going to do nothing but run Steam and game. And they're not going to visit, they're not going to browse the web with it.
Starting point is 02:29:55 So in my mind, this number is probably underrepresented. Now, you could make the same arguments for other operating systems. underrepresented now you could make the same arguments for other operating systems uh you know oh well on this kind of you know on pos terminals that run windows of which there are millions worldwide you know they don't browse the web on those sure sure sure fine enough that's fair enough but given how small the linux number is and given how many steam decks i suspect that valve is selling i think i think it would be a significant impact compared to Windows. At the same time, I think it might actually be the other way around because this is arguing desktop OSes.
Starting point is 02:30:34 So if that's the case, then Steam Deck's involvement at all, I think is almost cheating. No, because desktop OSes includes laptops. They can't tell the difference. So if you're going to include one mobile device, you to include a different mobile device i don't know i don't consider the steam i consider the steam deck a computer i know i just said it's a console but i also argue that the ps5 is a computer so i'm standing behind a computer no it's yes but it doesn't have any kind of general purpose utility. Steam Deck does, for sure.
Starting point is 02:31:09 Steam Deck does. It's a computer. Yeah. I think that's probably fair enough. I'm trying to pick it apart, but I think it's fair. I think it's kind of on the edge, but I think it's fair.
Starting point is 02:31:17 We made a very similar argument once the... The Switch is basically a calculator. Once you could put the xbox in dev mode and install you know emulators on it and a browser and whatever it's okay it's just a computer now yeah like if you plug the right things into it you can literally run uh jayden used a steam deck as his development computer at work for a while because we didn't have a pc for him so he it was temporary and he actually kind of liked it and it worked fine so like yeah i think the argument's fine
Starting point is 02:31:52 it's exciting yeah it's cool it's good is it time again no not yet i wonder i think it would be too early valve where is steam os yeah come on man let us run another computer especially with um all these like hyper invasive anti-cheats which are like the only way forward because there's a unprecedented insane amount of people cheating in multiplayer games right now um i like would we're talking about how the console's dying i think gaming device is gonna be a thing though so i think you like might legitimately not want to do all the things you do on a computer on your gaming computer if you're playing a bunch of games that have these hyper invasive kernel level anti-cheats so like there's some idea there our software has opinions
Starting point is 02:32:50 on kernel level anti-cheat yeah I know hmm man how do we fix cheating in games the way that they are right now? You can't fix it at an OS level. You can't fix it at a game level.
Starting point is 02:33:13 You can't fix it. Can't fix it at a driver level. You just can't fix it. And video games. Can you fix it at a hardware level? In my opinion, you have to fix it. And you still won't be able to fix it. have to try to alleviate it this is this is why i push so hard with tarkov which they're never going to do it
Starting point is 02:33:32 um but this is why i push so hard for them to have the replay system yeah um because like people used to love love love love the the whatever it was called system, Overwatch system for Counter-Strike, where reported users would go into this Overwatch queue and users in good standing could review the Overwatch queue and then like basically vote on what they thought it was. And they would show it to a bunch of different people to get like a vote on if this person was cheating or not. like a vote on if this person was cheating or not um people liked it so much that counter-strike creators would just stream themselves going through the overwatch queue because it was interesting um and i i actually think it helped very significantly because they're never going to be able to detect everything it's just not going to happen tell me this if a game developer was willing to implement support for it so by support for it i mean locked off servers where only people who have this
Starting point is 02:34:33 device can participate would you buy a device that is essentially a camera camera and a piece of software that monitors the screen that uses machine vision to track your actions on your peripherals and hold on hold on just i'm waiting locally locally tracks what's happening on your peripherals and locally tracks what's happening on your peripherals and locally tracks what's happening on your screen and ensures that they correspond it's not enough why not in tarkov people cheat this one's very debatable how much it's used but a lot of people think it's a lot and like if you remember goat's video he was only detecting people that were doing this style of cheating where it's a cheat that's on your screen they can see through walls they can see wireframes through walls all that type
Starting point is 02:35:29 of stuff there's another form of cheating and this form of cheating is in multiple games where you have an external computer so you have a yeah what is it dma device direct memory access device you go to an external computer and then you can see people on the other computer so you're talking about your own screen some people cheat within a completely external screen no that's true but yeah i guess that wouldn't help because then everything would still correspond and unless it's watching your eyes okay so next eye tracking is next level now you're not allowed looking at a spare monitor though um well you're not allowed to looking at a spare monitor though. Well, you're not allowed to,
Starting point is 02:36:10 basically you would still be able to do some stuff. Like you'd be able to stop moving, look at something else, mime that you're doing something. No, you wouldn't because you're just looking at something else. You'd be able to take your mouse off, your hand off your mouse and pretend you're looking at your phone over here
Starting point is 02:36:24 for a little bit. And then you'd be able to take your mouse off your your hand off your mouse and pretend you're looking at your phone over here for a little bit and then you'd be able to go back to your thing but that would put you at a significant competitive disadvantage in a lot of games if you if you actually so you okay so it theoretically remember guys this is a theoretical product so theoretically it is a device that has a camera that monitors your hand movements, an eye tracker that monitors your eye movements, and then a piece of software that is tied into it, or better yet, not software, a third camera that monitors the screen and ensures that everything is synced. And how does this work?
Starting point is 02:36:59 It reports an everything okay signal? Basically, it's an everything's fine alarm all the time and it so it'll ping it'll ping the multiplayer server saying everything's okay everything's okay everything's okay and then if any if it ever stops then you're kicked immediately if it worked let's say it's i'm gonna on, let's do stages of this. Hold on. It's just, it's what I've described so far. Would you consider buying it? If there was a big enough ecosystem that you knew that in a game you like to play,
Starting point is 02:37:39 other people would be using it and you could play on a cheat-free server. It sounds so susceptible to, this sounds like such a massive honeypot. Ignore that. Let's say it worked uh and like wasn't the giant honeypot for people to come everything was essentially locally stored other than the everything's okay alarm yeah people could um yeah probably to be honest okay and i'd just cover up the cameras when i wasn't playing well let's talk about the pricing oh i mean that doesn't oh hello buddy um that doesn't sound cheap no let's say it's 300 does it work in multiple games it works in any game where the developer implements support and has cheat free like like cheat eye or whatever you want to call it can we assume this is like
Starting point is 02:38:21 not 100 but pretty ubiquitous. It's not ubiquitous. No, it's supported in a handful of games, but one or two of them happen to be ones that you like to play. I would consider it depending on the games. 300 bucks. I would consider it depending on the gaps. And let's say it was supported in Tarkov.
Starting point is 02:38:38 Yeah. You, would you play, would you play, uh, whatever, not raids, not extractions,
Starting point is 02:38:43 whatever they're called instances. Right. Sure. Would you play whatever, not raids, not extractions, whatever they're called. Instances. Raids, sure. Would you play raids with this device and this device alone if it was available and would you spend the money on it? I think you'd have to be in lobbies only with other people using it. Well, yeah, you would. So you'd have exclusive. And I think there's, like I said, the external monitor thing is still going to happen. Exclusive.
Starting point is 02:39:02 And I think there's, like I said, the external monitor thing is still going to happen. I don't know. It's not a guarantee because the external monitor thing. Because we really have no idea what percentage of people are using that. Yep, that's fair. We know it's a lot. We know it's like actually a huge amount of people.
Starting point is 02:39:25 Because there's a weird thing where that's the easiest way to cheat with your friends as well. Because it's the least suspicious to the other people that you're playing with. Right. If it could get around that, yeah, I think I would. Because, to be completely I, to me, it's completely honest to me, like first person shooter style competitive games right now are actually just ruined. I don't think any of them is.
Starting point is 02:39:54 I don't even think that's a controversial take. Someone told me like, Oh, but there's no cheating in Valorant. They have the kernel level anti cheat. And it's like, but like, bruh,
Starting point is 02:40:04 YouTube it. They're everywhere like maybe it helps them maybe but ultimately this is a this is a like back and forth that will go forever okay so here's one elijah uh said something else but it made me think of something different yeah good job elijah um you're doing great it's a value it's a valuable it's valuable skill knowing that there's going to be knowing that there's going to be a cost in terms of latency right you're going to probably it'll cost you a frame of latency let's say 15 milliseconds would you play a competitive shooter from a cloud stream service? If you knew that every other client connected was also using the same cloud stream service and the whole thing was running locally so they could monitor what absolutely everyone
Starting point is 02:40:55 is doing. So nothing goes in, nothing goes out other than mouse and keyboard inputs and frame data. Would that be more fun these days? If everyone's doing i think so if everyone's on it the biggest thing is not it's not getting owned because like you know i'm getting older i'm getting a little bit slower i'm not as good at fps games as i used to be i also don't play them as much like it's just not that's fine i'm gonna lose um it's it's just not... That's fine. I'm going to lose. It's having a very legitimized theory that the person that just beat you might be cheating. Yeah. And, like, in...
Starting point is 02:41:36 That seed of doubt. It just ruins the whole thing. And, like, in Tarkov, they added a thing where you can view people's profiles after they kill you. And it's like, oh, cool. this guy has a 75 extraction rate probably just died to a cheater go into the next game this guy has 17 kd that is definitely possible there are people that are really good definitely legit that definitely have kds better than that that dude's probably not one of them right like i don't know um and it just sucks time to break out world of tanks let's see let's see world of
Starting point is 02:42:15 tanks cheats cheats are world of tanks world of tanks banned thousands of cheaters in february how to cheat in world of tanks the legal aim cheat world of tanks doesn't want you to know about all right multiplayer competitive games are covered in cheaters right now it's actually crazy it's mostly in like games that involve projectiles so i was gonna say first person shooter but i don't know if hell divers has a problem does it you know in a pve like multiplayer game people suck teamwork yeah if you if you're cheating in hell divers you are not a citizen. Wow. That is not very democratic of you. Declared not a citizen. Got him.
Starting point is 02:43:09 Not patriotic at all. Service guarantees citizenship. You belong to the bugs. All right. Are there any other topics that we really need to hit here? European New Car Assessment Program has declared that all cars need physical controls like buttons, switches, and dials for important features like turn signals, windshield wipers, horns, hazard warning lights, and any built-in SOS features. I mean, that should have been common sense before, but hey, thanks, Tesla.
Starting point is 02:43:33 Yeah, personally, I support that a lot. Yep. And Oregon passed a right to repair law that Apple is not a fan of. of um basically they're going after uh locking components like serializing components and locking them to a particular device uh google has been vocally in support of the bill but apple has expressed concern saying that the bill's language around parts pairing could force them to allow third-party biometric sensors to work in our devices without any form of authentication which could lead to unauthorized access to an individual's personal data to the detriment of customers everywhere because they do not have the ability to restrict such provisions regionally. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:13 Yeah. You're going to have to just figure it out, Apple, which we know you can. So just do it because you did it before. So just do it like that. Yeah. The bill covers all consumer electronics, but excludes motor vehicles, farming equipment. Really? Medical devices. HVAC systems. Why HVAC systems? yeah the bill covers all consumer electronics but excludes motor vehicles farming equipment really medical devices hvac systems why hvac systems game consoles why solar panels and electric toothbrushes so right to repair doesn't that is what is this the oral b lobby like
Starting point is 02:44:38 what's going on yeah why can't why can't you do that like colgate like what's what's gonna happen if you fix your own toothbrush what do you what risk is this your your teeth data is gonna be you know it's a medical device i don't know unbelievable all right i think it's time for one show after dark all right now fine i'll do it yeah now do you guys want to read your own merch messages and then i go upstairs and prepare things so that we can have a we can do faster switch over yeah i can eight percent i can be dan uh what am i doing when after dark that's the button okay bye good luck he's lias is also leaving uh i'm just gonna i'm just gonna take one of these that i can answer um i'd click to broadcast to that do the thing i think so um
Starting point is 02:45:38 hello dll is using macros for gaming cheating such as entering a key combination enabling a stratagem in hell divers uh as much as i just roasted people for cheating in hell divers uh because i just think it's sad um it's a pve game so like i don't really I really, really don't think that you should do it because that's part of the game. And like failing the key input is part of the game. So I think you're robbing yourself of the experience, but it's a PVE game. So like, I don't care personally, but that's also not very democratic
Starting point is 02:46:23 and you're not a patriot got him yeah all right should we do some merch messages i just did one oh good job hi dll is oh that's what i did last year i installed solar on my house says andrew q with an ev uh was close to net zero electricity linus do you monitor your solar if so how has your electricity usage been with an ev and many electronics i actually do monitor my solar occasionally uh to give you some idea of how often it is i forget what the app is called but i do have it i just need to find it it's not very good in the winter because we don't get a lot of sun here in canada which is why the roi point for solar in or in canada there's some parts of canada
Starting point is 02:47:13 that gets on but in vancouver we definitely don't get enough to make it make a ton of sense uh but in the summer in the summer it's not bad dang it I forget what it's called. It's one of those stupid apps where the name, it's not, you know, solar or, you know, energy app or anything like that. It just has some random stupid name and I have to remember exactly what it is. iPool, for example, the app for my pool, instead of being called AquaLink, is called iAquaLink. So when I'm going through all the apps, I don't really use all that often. I have to remember the pool starts with an I for some reason that
Starting point is 02:47:54 I can't possibly imagine what it would be other than... Apparently you can rename apps? No way. I had no idea. Okay, I had no idea and that is super cool. When Bingo Chronified said, remind Linus he can rename apps in the drawer I don't know how to do that I don't see an obvious way to do
Starting point is 02:48:12 that app details in store how do you do that um select item okay I select it depends on your launcher okay well I don't have a custom launcher i cannot find this i'm sorry this is very embarrassing i just hold on the app should
Starting point is 02:48:30 bring up an edit button yeah so you probably yeah it doesn't i don't have that um well i give up fake news stop if i find it i'll let you guys know in the meantime we might have to move on to the other one but basically on my best days uh i'm about neutral and most days i i'm not i'm still i'm still paying for electricity very much very much so this is driving me absolutely bonkers right now. The fact that I cannot find this. Oh, it's probably not on here. I probably had it on my fold. I think I probably just haven't bothered to install it on here because it doesn't matter that much. Oh, you know what? I think home assistant has the tracking for it as well. I will double check. Okay. Home assistant. Let's go energy. Let's go. Yes. yes okay so today the total was the um wow that's it
Starting point is 02:49:33 6.1 kilowatt hours from my solar with meaning i drew over 100 kilowatt hours from the grid nice however i could pick a summer day uh let's go back to last summer so i don't know uh arbitrarily august 23rd there we go so on that day um oh wow when i said that i was even on some days that was a big lie because that was 27.7 from the solar but still over 100 from the grid i have no idea what was going on that day occasionally i i see big spikes where it's obvious that i was like charging my car uh like here's one where i get home after work and the blue is yeah i'm very much charging my car um yeah yeah it makes a small difference not much okay here we go what's next oh right dan's not here uh do you want me to read them out uh it's up to you no because right now i'm curating potentials
Starting point is 02:50:33 yeah why don't you do that and i'll read them out we got we got this how did we ever do this by just ourselves i don't i think i read them out i don't remember we didn't have merge messages before we had a producer i just mean how did we do the land show before but i don't think the producer originally did it really yeah oh i don't know uh anonymous asks how's taryn's chrome pc office coming along and sorry for not suggesting it uh we i to my knowledge we haven't really made any progress because i think we were trying to source a really some really wild stuff for it and we expect that to take a little while uh victor asks can we sponsor luke to gush about games on air i mean given how much he mostly hates games hates games i hate games i mean you seem to hate a lot of ball this gate three's pretty good got him let's go so if your name is
Starting point is 02:51:27 larian studios then zero dollars um no i mean i i gush about games all the time i hell divers is fantastic ball this gate three is really good balatro came out of nowhere uh as a slave aspire hyper nerd that game is awesome very excited about that games have been pretty good for quite a while though i feel like we're out of the slump this is kind of what i was talking about i feel like the old big companies are honestly people just kind of ignore them now like assassin's creed mirage came out you didn't hear people hate on it you also didn't hear people like it a lot just dude nobody cared even see if thieves was in the news for like two days see if these lasted a little bit three days then yeah i saw
Starting point is 02:52:13 as someone summit like single-handedly kept that game relevant for a decent amount like one twitch streamer was like able i'm seriously though because twitch streamers can kind of do that they can like drag a game on but other than summit like people didn't really seem to care um yeah but to talk about another pirate game i don't even remember the name of it right now the one ubisoft just released the quadruple a game uh skull and bones there we go people were like including myself like sorry i meant skull and bones i totally loved that yes so yes i completely agree that not cfd's cfd's stayed relevant for that was for a while yeah i meant skull and bones yep skull yeah it was it was like
Starting point is 02:52:58 three days in my news feed and then it was gone completely gone uninteresting and before like you know halo 5 comes out and people are mad for like months yeah yeah halo infinite people are mad for a long time but i think people are getting to the point where they're just like whatever shut up indifferent now all these new companies are stepping up making really good games some indies are coming out and just killing it battle bit was a huge success bellatro is a huge success. Bellatro is a huge success. Dave the Diver, massive success. There's other ones that I'm forgetting right now,
Starting point is 02:53:29 but they've been killing it. Baldur's Gate 3 killed it. Hell Divers killed it. Elden Ring, massive amazing sales. Did you even say Pal World just now? Pal World, insane. Games are just like over and over and over again breaking player limits on Steam,
Starting point is 02:53:43 breaking sales limits on Steam. Things are actually very good right now and i think it's largely studios that are not in the original big grouping are releasing bangers and players are more willing to buy games that aren't just from like these original big companies the funny thing for me is even that some of the big traditional players are doing great like when sony announced those layoffs they also announced like record profits in certain areas though if i remember the layoffs that happened were with a studio that did not have record profits um i think that was the four i think it's forespoken that's the name of the game did not do very well as far as my understanding goes um and i think they laid off like that studio
Starting point is 02:54:31 um or disperse them within the company i don't necessarily know what happened um what is your take on city skylines 2 uh it's not really so much my game my type of game but the city skylines fans are really hardcore i don't i'm assuming they like it but i don't know they're pretty mad oh okay the game's super demanding and in a lot of ways it doesn't live up to the full experience of the previous game because it had like 10 years of modding this is a rough point of those types of games and if you're a fan of that type of game you'll get there sort of just have to get used to it'll get there this is a thing with civ when a brand new civ game comes out it's probably not as good as the last one but then they'll release a couple expansions and then it's like really sick
Starting point is 02:55:13 like the next ano game's in trouble because ano 1800 is outstanding and it got like six seasons of dlc or something like that which compellingly added to the very good deal not just cosmetic crap or whatever you want because it's yeah great that like dramatically improves the game yeah like the the first expansion the new world is awesome amazing it's a whole new world the whole new world the arctic expansion is sick yeah the uh whatever that jungle kind of one is is great yeah um and so ano whatever is coming next it it's gonna suck by comparison yeah for probably a while i like playing snow runner with my dad uh they're releasing a game called expeditions a mud runner game and like yeah it's probably not going to be very good for like a while
Starting point is 02:56:07 and that's okay because it'll get there i i believe it'll be all right civ 5 greater than civ 6 i also believe this but i think that's a preference thing i think you and i we probably don't like the districts that's the only reason why i don't like civ 6 is i'm not so into the districts but i also know people that love civ 6. So it is what it is. Yeah, and it's one of those things where everything we're saying is kind of a generalization. Like there are going to be
Starting point is 02:56:31 preferred entries in the series. But we just mean in general, when you follow up something that had many years of bug fixes and optimization and in some cases, mods, extra content. You can't like GTA 6, man man no matter how good that game is the online experience is going to be it will not live up to gta5 online or gta online i guess they
Starting point is 02:56:57 call it but you know what i mean the online experience that that gta5 ultimately morphed into that is far beyond what i certainly i expected pit boy saying give us a little feeder on the starfield review vid this is it actually the starfield review vid i'm going to talk about starfield almost not at all the that's a closed book the game's garbage um got him what i'm going to be talking about is is this stuff um is the industry is moving and as much as i'm going to sit here and mourn the the loss of some of my like favorite things um like i do not expect the next elder scrolls game will be like worth playing at all which sucks that's bold
Starting point is 02:57:40 but unless they make dramatic changes in that studio it's not gonna happen like i i don't know um but there's sick games coming out that are really fun i'm having a great time playing new stuff my my era of like i played morrowind i went back and played the games before morrowind i played oblivion all like this is oh my god all of these things are amazing and i can just like guarantee that the next one coming out is going to be sick that's kind of over but that doesn't mean that good games are over so are you ever going to finish final fantasy 6 yes i will i'm trying to progress right now figure out uh why my computer is blue screening multiple times a times a day. What? It's having problems again? New, completely new problems.
Starting point is 02:58:28 Raid port zero something, something. Yeah, I don't know. Very confusing blue-screen. Did you get moss in your van? It doesn't seem to be related to overheating. That's weird. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:58:42 Still trying to figure it out. All right. Well, bummer. AMD drivers? No, he's on NVID. Okay. Still trying to figure it out. All right. Well, bummer. AMD drivers? No, he's on NVIDIA now. Unless they're talking about the CPU. Oh, I mean, that's possible, but unlikely. Is Cursed with personal PCs?
Starting point is 02:58:56 I wasn't until the AMD challenge started. I never had any problems. But now I'm not on an AMD car anymore, so I can't talk about that. Chad asks, hey DLL, Alien Special Edition is the best. but now i'm not on an amd car anymore so i can't talk about that chad asks hey dll alien special edition is the best aliens special edition okay yeah yeah cargo pants when um i don't know we are at oh i should say we're at least two to three months out because we haven't started mass production yet but they're going to be pretty similar to this, and they're not going to be cheap. All the pockets and everything ended up
Starting point is 02:59:26 significantly contributing to the cost of this particular garment, and our order quantity is not super high because we haven't had a smash hit in pants yet, and so we're taking a fairly conservative approach to ordering, so there'll be a bit of a low volume tax, but they're really nice.
Starting point is 02:59:47 I really like them. Richard says, thanks LTT and team. Question for Linus if he gets it. What treats do you like to give your cats? Oh, we're really bad. We just give them like friskies, like name brand ones that are probably full of garbage and gonna kill them or whatever.
Starting point is 03:00:04 We don't give them to them often, but they, they do like them. Sometimes we'll put them in like 3d printed stimulus toys that are fun to play with. And they like, you can try to get it out of it. Uh,
Starting point is 03:00:13 but I, I like giving them catnip, even though I know you're not supposed to, you're not supposed to. Yeah. It's, I don't know. It was like bad for them.
Starting point is 03:00:19 It's like, it's drugs, right? It like messes them up a little bit. I don't know. It's a drug. It's funny. It's really funny. They get all weird and affectionate and they like roll around that's the stuff so it's e
Starting point is 03:00:30 yeah for cats yeah i don't know um yeah temptations that's the one jay jay sit on in float plane chat um are the 3d printed toys safe for them to be chewing and licking they don't they're not dogs like they're they're like fidget toys. Like they have like spinny bits or they have little like, uh, thing sliders that they can try to get the, the, the food underneath.
Starting point is 03:00:51 It's, it's fine. Apparently the nip is perfectly fine. Uh, some people are saying occasionally it's fine. Natural is fine. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:00:58 I don't know. Whatever. Someone told me at some point that it's not the best. I'm going to give it to them anyway, because I don't give a fuck. So there you go. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Bad bad pet bad pet dad uh roderick says if you were forced to use a monitor where all of its specs were as low as they can go but you could choose one spec to be top of the line which would it be size refresh rate color, color accuracy, et cetera?
Starting point is 03:01:27 Ooh. It depends what I'm doing. Yeah. If it's for gaming, it's going to have to be a top-of-the-line refresh rate. But am I allowed to also have top-of-the-line pixel response times? Because if I have the fastest refresh rate and trash pixel response times, that'll suck. Everything's just a blur. Then if I have to pick one, then it would be pixel response times.
Starting point is 03:01:49 Unless it's for anything other than gaming, in which case it's going to be color but size color but size hold on minimum size for work how small is that size yeah i don't i mean these days i would say like these days probably yeah probably something like that yeah it's probably not going to be size that no uh garrod asks have you looked at the plug-in hybrid chrysler pacifica yeah i almost got it when we bought our odyssey it was coming soon and i didn't want to be the first person to buy a chrysler all new model so i was like this looks super cool this is right up my alley plug-in hybrid i could do a lot of my you know just putting about dropping kids off at lessons on electric uh totally my jam right chevy volt guy um but it's a chrysler and this is the very first one i don't even know if they
Starting point is 03:02:42 had a plug-in hybrid before that uh no they must have because um they're they're also under general motors but i don't know that chrysler specifically had done anything yeah i i don't i don't believe in i don't believe in first gen even an established product line i don't want a new a breath an all new i don't want an all new i want the facelift or or i want the last one before the facelift or the second one after the facelift i forget what like the ones are but i don't want an all new i know that for sure apparently no chrysler's not gm it's fiat chrysler that's right sorry sorry sorry sorry my bad i think there's one dealership locally that does chrysler and gm and so i i get that confused sometimes yeah so i i would just no no i was not i was not into that
Starting point is 03:03:32 oops what's up i just curated something that there's like two of the same thing for so nice anonymous says being water resistant how does the ltd hat hold up to head sweat compared to the standard version uh well what i would imagine is that it would not pass through it as easily but i would have to get back to you on that um i have no idea how to do anything with respect to following this up so maybe someone will see it and we will update the product page at some point but i would say that if you sweat a lot and your main concern when it comes to your head getting wet is from the inside then you should just get the regular cotton one and save yourself 20 bucks
Starting point is 03:04:14 and it'll be like very breathable and that'll be good michael says if the government forced you into one of the currently vacant non-tech-focused public service jobs, what would you be excited to do? Forced you. And what side jobs would you do to actually pay the bills? So, I'd be a teacher. He'd be a firefighter. Saved you the trouble. Thanks.
Starting point is 03:04:39 As for side jobs, man, I feel like, you know know what i was looking into this recently i feel like i'd figure out stuff where i can buy a small piece of equipment and then turn that into like a recurring profit at home a rental yeah no actually what i had in mind was more along the lines of like you can buy there's this really weird chinese company vivor and they have kind of everything like they have ultrasonic cleaners and they have like super high pressure compressors i don't know how trustworthy they are like the reviews are like oh yeah this compressor like works pretty good as long as you you know make sure you're like supervising it really carefully because otherwise it'll explode if it goes too
Starting point is 03:05:19 high it doesn't have a safety cut off and also like i had to redo the oil in it when it first arrived because it like wasn't sealed right and like uh anyway um but i was gonna before i realized how dangerous that thing was i was thinking oh that would be like a cool side hustle for like my kid it's like hey you know here learn to run a business um i will i will invest you know the cost of this high pressure compressor thing you're responsible for having a web presence and for uh handling you know client communications and and for actually fulfilling people's tank filling requests and you could use it to fill probably not scuba tanks but you could use it to fill airsoft uh or like air gun or paintball gun uh high pressure air tanks and so i could see myself doing
Starting point is 03:06:08 stuff like that so making small investments like uh into a bad yeah yeah these guys into like a badminton stringing machine um and then streaming streaming badminton streaming badminton stringing machine and stringing people's rackets for them and stuff like that man these guys got everything so uh yeah don't go to cleaning equipment just go to like the main the main site it's like super weird company man like is that a milking machine or like what the what the fuck am i even looking at here is that a lawnmower i don't even know what is this i don't even know like a still i don't even know price is as low as 68 a curb ramp like would i trust a jack from these guys i would not trust this right like the lowest price ever oh good i don't know if i want that from a jack yeah what yeah weird weird company dude
Starting point is 03:07:00 multi-effect deep detox temperature control and timer foldable and portable sauna blanket for infrared heating okay jaws 14 said i literally had their sauna heaters open chrome already yeah they just have some of everything um random archive anonymous says hey dan and the talent what is the most comfortable ltt merch to wear while traveling my wife and i are flying to the maritimes in april to see the total solar eclipse and want to get us some merch while flying man i i would take the dropout. That hoodie is awesome. The dropout is just so comfortable. And I mean, if you're going maximum comfort
Starting point is 03:07:49 and you just don't give a fuck about what you look like, pick up the pajama pants. Yeah. They are so comfortable. So that, yeah. I second both of those. Yeah. Like if I just wanted maximum comfort,
Starting point is 03:08:01 I would probably just go that route. I mean, there's always the onesie if you're totally shameless. What's the scenario that you're in is this they're flying flying yeah you can have some printing issues with the with the the yeah but you could wear the merino underwear and that would keep the print there you go contained uh well depending Well, depending. Get help. You really got to brag about that? On a live stream?
Starting point is 03:08:31 What's wrong with you? You're in a public place. What's your problem? That's all. What's your problem? I just don't wear those in public places. Yeah, you wear them to work. It's not anymore. Yeah, well, because I told you not to.
Starting point is 03:08:40 Yeah. Okay. Nathaniel says, Linus or Luke tried Quake Champions. I stand by it being the best shooter around at the moment similar vibe to halo but much faster movement and no aim assist i haven't tried it i would probably enjoy it i i love quake and it's quake rivatives yeah i feel the same way ryan s says i was able to play super checks with my fiance for the first time this week. She was playing it similar to foosball, all power, no finesse. Any tips for how to consistently win?
Starting point is 03:09:12 Defense. Defense. Defense. Defense. It's all about cutting down the angles. So you basically have to look at whatever part of your net is exposed you put your goalie in whatever the most likely spot they are to hit is and then you get a player in between the puck and the rest of the net and you can our our games tend to be very tight checking games
Starting point is 03:09:39 uh with there was i specifically remember one conversation that we had that you after the conversation were semi-regretting having where we were discussing how to block certain shots um and that that conversation i think was quite the inflection point in like the quality of overall gameplay yeah because we went back and forth a bit on like i outmetted him for quite a long time yeah and then because neither of us is that into that um whenever he outmet as me at something he explains what he's doing and whenever i outmet him at something we both just generally want to be better we'll win we'll we'll win some games yeah if we figure something out yeah but then we'll be like hey once you've kind of got it on lock the reason i'm scoring with my left winger like every game all the time
Starting point is 03:10:32 is because you're not you you're moving this guy this way and you should be moving him this way um nowadays you like you either have to get lucky and you just like start hitting hard and hoping it like bounces off something and goes in. There's some of that. There's some of that. There's some of that in real hockey too. A hundred percent. Or you gotta,
Starting point is 03:10:50 you could, man, you gotta make a good play. Make some plays. Try to, try to do a pass. So instead of just like, I have the puck,
Starting point is 03:10:58 I shoot it at the net. Yeah. Try to like, you know, they're guarding one angle. Cause your player has the puck instead of shooting at the net, pass it to your other one and be ready and smack it right when it gets to you so they don't have time to react and move their players and stuff.
Starting point is 03:11:11 Also, you just generally got to work on your muscle memory. Manage your goalie. That's a big one. Whenever the puck's on this side, get your goalie to that side and then proceed to play. And then when it moves to the other side, get it over there. Get back. Just keep your goalie so that he's best cutting down on the angles yeah daniella hey lane
Starting point is 03:11:31 lindsey and delilah as a floatplane subscriber for a long time i feel like i have missed out on all the dennis ads that appear in videos could we get a floatplane compilation of them love this show that's a really good idea be really fun be really fun to is like Dennis going over like his like favorite top five ones or something. Um, that's a, that's a, that's a super good idea.
Starting point is 03:11:52 I will, I will send that to already. Um, Dennis presents his favorite Dennis ads, period. Idea for a floatplane exclusive where Dennis acts as the host and shows them some of the best creative sponsor spots that he's done because they don't see them. All right.
Starting point is 03:12:20 Yeah, that's a really good idea. Antonio says, hey, Linux, Luke Skywalker, and Dirty Dan. With the retirement of MatPat, what are your thoughts on YouTubers retiring and the impact theorists have had on the gaming community and game development? So thoughts on YouTubers retiring. Man, I've been tempted myself many times.
Starting point is 03:12:42 I mean, I've said, guys, I'm not doing this for the money anymore. Don't need more of it. I do have a tendency to develop greater ambitions once I've achieved what I have. Yvonne calls me insatiable. But I assure, I swear, the badminton center's the last thing no it's the last thing
Starting point is 03:13:09 it's the last thing luke well i mean the lab still like is not done and the badminton center is still not i just mean i'm not gonna add any more massive projects I don't believe you. What I do somewhat believe is that at the very least, a pause on purchasing real estate, which will limit the ability to do certain things. I know part of me believes that you're just like, not going to aspire to more. That is just hilarious to be completely honest.
Starting point is 03:13:50 Um, what that more is, I think you might be able to, especially knowing you, you might be able to word craft your way out of it being quote unquote more because it's an expansion of something we're already doing in some way whatever sure but you know what i mean um i feel like i'm just getting completely roasted right now there's absolutely nothing i can do about it
Starting point is 03:14:15 but yeah i don't know we're gonna use the the labs team and and this other something thing to to make extremely high-end uh pool toys or something it's like okay sure dude it would be cat toys before pool toys but sure yeah yeah but you're like it's not an expansion because we use the labs team to design it and we use the warehouse team to make it yeah and so it's like well what's wrong with that so you've built all the teams that you need to build to do whatever you want and you're like now i'm not expanding no that doesn't count that counts no no that's legit stop product development it's all a tax write-off yeah as for matt pat's impact i, yeah, man, the creative industry, just, yeah, sure, gaming.
Starting point is 03:15:10 But honestly, I think he's been in some ways more influential to people who have watched him and not necessarily gone into gaming or game development. He's just been an icon. And that's just a theory. Like the Green Brothers, where you're just like an innovator, uh, is, is the word that I would use to describe him. I've only,
Starting point is 03:15:29 I've only had the pleasure of meeting him twice. I want to say, um, but he's one of those people that a is exactly the way that you expect him to be based on seeing him on camera. And B somehow still manages to surprise you. If that makes sense. Charles says,
Starting point is 03:15:53 Hey DLO, I recently became a father and when helps keep my sanity through the sleepless nights, the last few Fridays, what is a piece of advice you wish someone had told you when you became a parent? Um, just be firm be firm and never ever break ranks the second you and your so say anything that contradicts the other you are done
Starting point is 03:16:20 they will find that tiny gap in the armor and they will wedge their way into it um and i don't mean that they're evil i just mean that they're people little little people annoying people beautiful people but they're people they're smart so watch out and they're and doesn't matter how smart you are because because remember, they're your genetic junk. They're every bit as smart as you are. Anonymous says, Hey, parasocial figments of my imagination. You've said before that you try to only make products
Starting point is 03:16:58 if you can add value to the market. So why cables? It feels like there are several quality cable brands. So my issue with cables is that they're often not available in the lengths that I want. And cable management is something that's a bit of a personal passion of mine. I like tidiness. I like order. And ours will be available in in-between lengths.
Starting point is 03:17:21 The other thing that we're going to do really well is cut out the bs so instead of super ultra mega speed our cables will simply be labeled with the maximum data rate that they can handle and with the maximum power that they can carry that's it no bs just excellent cables i also haven't seen many if any cable manufacturers use super high quality silicone sleeving. Apple used to have some cables like that, but they haven't done them in a long time. I've seen it in DIY electronics cabling and like wiring rather, but seeing it in actually finished cables is pretty rare.
Starting point is 03:18:01 So between the quality of the cables cables the availability of middle lengths for optimal cable management and the just no bs labels i think that there's an opportunity for us to make a difference uh anonymous says hey linus and his two carers just curious to know which rig you've had the most fun building at LTT. P.S. More of the jank water cooling guy, please. The most fun. Oh, I don't know. Cause there's a fine line between fun and derangement.
Starting point is 03:18:42 I almost feel like, like, you know, we have, we have that video coming very soon of us reflecting on our favorite builds. So I curated this as a call out for that video coming very soon of us reflecting on our favorite builds. So I curated this as a call-out for that video, basically. Well, I'm nothing if not predictable. We got there. We got there. The mineral oil PC was just sheer joy. It wasn't that hard. It was just, let's go to the pet store and buy a castle and put it in a computer.
Starting point is 03:19:13 Right? her her let's go to the like pet store and buy a castle and put it in a computer right like it was we already knew how to do it we had a kit like it wasn't uh it's just fun yeah yeah that was pretty fun uh we've been we've done a lot of fun i always come back to that one man like and some of it's just like wow even less purpose like i did that one where we had a heat sink like an air cooler heat sink and we just like ran water over it we like we put it in water to see water cool can you water cool air cooling right like that's just fun it's just fun did we build a computer really i don't know more we ran a you know science fair experiment but it's if we weren't having fun we wouldn't do it hey speaking of fun um we did how to clean your water cooling recently and it ended up being a really fun video that's cool um we were we were going to do it and then a toothbrush sponsor wanted to work with us on a sponsored
Starting point is 03:20:01 video i went holy the timing of this is unbelievable because we were just going to do a like how to clean your water cooling thing and we weren't really sure if there'd be enough of an audience for that so it wasn't a high priority uh even though we did want to do it and then and then things got even better because one of my favorite degenerates that works here david who doesn't take care of his stuff which you guys would have seen in his intel extreme tech upgrade hasn't touched those water-cooled systems since i built them and they had some scary stuff in them so we combined checking in on a previous upgrade with how to clean your water cooling with we needed to do a sponsored thing for like a like a like a super high vibration rate electric
Starting point is 03:20:45 toothbrush and it ended up being like a really good video it's informative it's fun and funny and it's sponsored so hey keep the lights on yeah i mean not very on swan show after dark but only only a little bit on a little bit yeah yeah we gotta pay dan somehow i mean he oh oh he is off working yeah i know i'm saying that for them uh archive sean says hey dillell just got my screwdriver have you considered doing similar real world reviews with other work battered items like you did with the miners backpack no that just kind of happened by chance um it's kind of a cool idea but i don't think it's the sort of thing that will go out of our way for if you want to see people's real world reviews ltstore.com is chock full of them like if you ever have any doubt in the product feel free to you know peruse the reviews where you will find lots and lots and lots of real world impressions
Starting point is 03:21:50 of our products there's over 8 000 reviews for the ltd screwdriver many of which include photos or some of which include photos i shouldn't say many many they can include photos um a lot of people don't use the feature but they definitely can yeah man i every once in a while i'll just sit and like read reviews i can't even keep up look at this all of these are from the 6th of march okay so we're on march 5th here here we go all of these are from march the 5th okay now we're on to march the 4th like people are really passionate about this product even the ones that aren't five star are like dang i really appreciate the behind the scenes decision this is a reflection of the dedication of the quality of ltt like i can't read all the amazing
Starting point is 03:22:38 wonderful things that people say about our five star one includes a lion saying i signed up for the precision screwdriver exactly exactly oh man i'm i'm glad i can support great content with actual great products like dang man yeah exactly okay so i've dealt with all the incoming and potentials nice okay i can read if you would like you want to participate for a change how about i read one for you ryan g if i buy this with my company card is it a tax write-off yes no i'll use the mouse pad for work oh then yes maybe partially maybe uh also luke what's the hardest challenge you've had to solve at floatplane other than live streaming oh yeah uh payment processors that's been very annoying um i think the biggest one is protection accomplishing what hr with the team size that we have um i i can't really understate how crazy it is that we were able to pull that off a very talented team um shout out actually kind of nuts um and any time that like yeah i don't know i i don't want to get way too into it
Starting point is 03:23:54 but like building a new feature when you have like oh um yes this individual person is responsible for um all of the apps and all of the front end yeah we like know of other sort of creator um you know platform things and they have a team of like a lot of people that do that entire team has less responsibilities than that one person and the thing that that it just has a lot of things that were kind of like, Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:27 So not shouting out anyone in particular. No, just our team is very talented and they're great. Yeah. And you know what? Their leader is pretty great. Yeah. Thanks man.
Starting point is 03:24:37 Oh, you mean you? Oh, I mean, you mean you? No, I mean, Taryn.
Starting point is 03:24:41 Oh, that's just, I was just bugging you. Was that? That would be right, though. Yeah, I'm not in their reporting path at all anymore. Wait, is it? Because he's the leader.
Starting point is 03:24:54 Is he? No, hold on a second. Am I still CEO of something? Yeah! You're still CEO. That's hilarious. I probably shouldn't be. When you don't know
Starting point is 03:25:06 i never thought about this at all yeah that's so funny um you can tell that reporting line was important yeah whoopsie doodles oh okay um elia says hey linus have you switched to that alienware aw2725df monitor that you unboxed before circuit don't want to get back oh so i haven't gotten one yet because i'm lazy also it's really small so my incentive to upgrade to it has been pretty low i do want it though man it was just i couldn't miss i couldn't miss luke it's like i was cheating i'm tempted but it's so much money it's so good it's so much money and i'm like trying to get away from shooters right now because how many cheaters there are do it you coward how much is it oh it's like 700 us dollars or something
Starting point is 03:26:00 oh and my next monitor dies it'll be cheaper then yeah it's like a thousand canadian dollars dude oh yeah dog i was talking to i was doing not salary but contract rate negotiations with someone today um and they told me their u.s number i was like nice and then i converted it and i was like oh nice we'll see man look at these reviews though this monitor is true wow factor best monitor i ever owned astounding oled monitor that is the wave. It's the wave. This is almost as good as our screwdriver, Luke. Look at this.
Starting point is 03:26:51 That's genuinely pretty nice. Actually, this is... Oh, well, hold on. It's the sort by highest total. That cannot be the default, Del. What the f***, Del? Wow. Okay, ours are sorted by most recent.
Starting point is 03:27:01 Okay, so let's see what they end up with then. What just happened? Did that just do anything i don't think so oh my god most relevant hello okay that one changed okay most recent a shining star on my desk okay is this okay i don't know what just happened here anyway it may be even better than the LTT. Oh, died after a week. Dude, this is... Okay, other than DOA, it gets five stars. Which is going to happen with monitors.
Starting point is 03:27:33 Disappointing packaging, so it's got a problem with it. Screen lottery risk. Packaging, again. Anyone who gets a working one is like, OMG, the best thing ever. And I back that up. Epic. Had to get a replacement. packaging again anyone who gets a working one is like omg the best thing ever and i i i backed that up epic had to get a replacement literally every single one that isn't five stars it's like it's brokey that's pretty epic someone said doesn't linus pay for uh luke's computer stuff for the
Starting point is 03:28:00 tower yep that's it yeah that's where i draw the line i'm not i'm not i draw the line i'm not complaining i'm not complaining monitors and peripherals and stuff see this right here this is some of them sound hella scripted yeah some of what oh maybe yeah sure i mean they might be fake we don't know ours are not yeah um mike says i'm saving this gift card until i can buy an ltd tax write-off shirt in big and tall sizes linus please tell me when i'll be able to spend this i'm not guaranteeing that i'm gary i guarantee nothing but thank you for the your tax liability gift card it's not a tax liability it's just a wait hold on is it no i think it might be because it counts as an asset but it's not i can't remember how it works but gift cards are actually like
Starting point is 03:28:52 sort of inconvenient in a sense like they're uh they're a they're a liability when you count your business assets or whatever yeah it's fine though please buy gift cards or whatever um igor says just got a job as a computer teacher for teenagers and young adults. Aside from PC building, what do you consider important skills for PC enthusiasts? I really want to light a fire in students. Troubleshooting. The rush of solving a problem is one that can't be under, can't be over, shouldn't be under, it's good. Yeah. over what it shouldn't be under it's good yeah i think a security focused lesson where you make it like the the students i don't know trying to teach kids security stuff and trying
Starting point is 03:29:42 to make it fun could be kind of cool like maybe you could have split the team into like split the class into like four teams or something uh and give them like they have to like send emails to each other and they have to be able to detect which email is like sketchy or something i don't know um it could be interesting. It would need some workshopping, but it could be fun. If you could find some way to teach kids good, you know, internet usage practices in regards to security, that would be super, super valuable for them. And if you could find a way to make it fun, that would be great. Hello, Linus Tax Tips. I'm Chaz. What are some odd things you've seen wired up to a computer? I.e., I'm wiring up an aftermarket car stereo from the 2010s to my PC for audio and CD slash DVD playback.
Starting point is 03:30:33 That's an odd one. Alex wanted to run a subwoofer off of a computer power supply for some reason. He wanted to build the computer into a sub enclosure. We didn't actually do that, but he wanted to build the computer into a sub enclosure we didn't actually do that but he wanted to sounds cool cigarette lighters are one of the funny ones from the like late 90s early 2000s you could get five and a quarter inch bay like cigarette lighters um i have personally just run power out of my computer for fans that are not actually in the computer or lights that are not actually in the computer or lights that are not actually in the computer.
Starting point is 03:31:07 They're just somewhere else. Cause it was just convenient because it was a Molex connector. And I was like, here we go. I mean, power is power, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:31:18 Give it to the people. Christopher. Hey, LLD first time buyer, my partner and I can't wait to read this to our baby who's arriving in a few weeks. Heck yeah, ABC's a gaming, let's go. Any tips for managing screen time
Starting point is 03:31:29 for young kids as ours grows up? Don't use it as a crutch. The biggest obstacle to managing kids' screen time is parents. You have to learn. You have to be disciplined enough to force them to be disciplined enough to not just stare at a screen.
Starting point is 03:31:47 Your kids are going to scream and cry in a restaurant. So, you have two options. You can have a pleasant meal by giving them your phone, or you can soldier it out. You can grab your kid, take them out of the, not like this.
Starting point is 03:32:03 I just meant grab your kid. No shake. Take them out of the restaurant not like this. I just meant grab your kid. No shake. Take them out of the restaurant. I used to do this all the time. Your food's going to get cold. Your steak is going to get tough while it sits there and you are not eating it. You sit them down outside the restaurant and you go, the way you're behaving is not okay. Do you like being out here?
Starting point is 03:32:26 No. Do you think I want to be out here? Well, what do we need to do? You need to stop the noise you're making. That's not okay. Nobody wants to hear that. And when you're done, we can go back inside. If it takes too long, you go back inside.
Starting point is 03:32:46 You leave them there. You stand there. You watch them through the window window you make sure no one's going to take off with your kid or whatever you wait it out there will be times when it will take an hour but what they learn is when you say you will eat this food. You will do it quietly. But that's what will happen. They can have a lot of tears in between, or they can yell, or they can do whatever. But that's what's going to happen. I mean, I've never had to hit my kids,
Starting point is 03:33:22 never had to, like, you know, be... We focused on whatever we say will happen and we will wait you out and it has been so effective i've seen some of it time yep and i don't mind putting them in a slightly unpleasant situation i also like as a as a childless person um i kind of appreciate it because if you just sit there if you don't do the phone thing but you just sit there and don't do anything then it's just annoying for everybody else so by like removing them from the scenario it's like okay and there will be escalating levels of unpleasantness. Like the first place I might put them when they're not behaving at the restaurant is inside the restaurant, sitting at the front.
Starting point is 03:34:11 And I just ignore them while they do not get it. They want attention, right? So don't give them attention for that. And then if they keep doing it, well, hey, next up is outside. Yeah, he said had to, He would never hit his kids. Yeah. It was just a verbiage thing.
Starting point is 03:34:26 Don't worry. I think some people justify it by saying that they had to, that there was no other way. Yeah. And I strongly believe that patience is the most powerful tool because they're not disciplined. They're kids. They are not patient.
Starting point is 03:34:43 If you're willing to, you can always outlast them always and like i said i'm not it's not that i'm not willing to put them in an unpleasant situation so at our old house step one of time out was the laundry room step two was through the door in the garage and step three was out the back door outside and i don't care what the weather is i don't care how late it is i don't care how tired you are if i said brush your teeth you will brush your teeth you will and then when we're done i say okay did i say brush your teeth okay did you brush your teeth yeah could that have gone a lot faster and a lot more pleasantly okay well then next time why don't we do it that way
Starting point is 03:35:30 and you've got to be you've got to be willing to stand your ground man i remember this one time in ikea man i could hear i could hear everyone around me like talking about me uh because my middle my middle child was crying for over an hour in the food court because i said she had to take one more bite and she didn't want to and i felt awful because she was overtired i knew i knew i knew as soon as we were getting into it that she was she was overtired she was overdue for her nap, and it had been kind of a long day. And realistically, it was crankiness. It was not because she's a bad kid or whatever.
Starting point is 03:36:14 But I had already said, you have to take one more bite. So it's been stated. The word has been uttered. And as soon as they find the gaps um now if i act overtired i can get away with x they're smart they're too smart um and so oh that's and that's a big one is when they finally take the bite. Huge positive reinforcement. Like, that's really good, too. Big snuggles and pick them up and, like, whatever, right?
Starting point is 03:36:52 Oh, and never bribe. That's another one. Always reward unexpectedly. Never, okay, we can get the toy if you eat your meal. You will eat the meal. They eat it. You go, good job. Why don't we go get a treat?
Starting point is 03:37:14 Never treat up front. Never, never, never, never. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good point. Yeah. Has there been any funny parenting story? I mean, I thought the one in the Ikea was pretty funny. I thought it was pretty good. It's terrible.
Starting point is 03:37:26 There was the one time my eldest, who was very shy, almost made us miss a ferry because we were at the park playing. And as we were leaving, he had borrowed a toy from another kid, like a little truck or something. And I said, okay, go give the toy back
Starting point is 03:37:42 and thank him for letting you borrow it. And he went and he put the toy back and thank him for letting you borrow it and he went and he put the truck down and he left I said hey I said you need to thank that boy for lending you his toy I remember this I wasn't there but I remember the story and he and he cried and cried and cried because he he just had this sort of this petrification he was he was so shy sometimes but it doesn't matter you will be f***ing polite and you will be a decent f***ing human being i don't care how shy you are if somebody does something for you you will thank them period and uh that was one of our biggest battles it was also
Starting point is 03:38:19 one of our last ones um because he was getting to the age where he's kind of getting it it was he where he where he was getting it and uh and we made that ferry by like 30 seconds i i it was barely and we were at that park and my wife's like we are gonna miss this ferry like and it was important for some reason it was important for some reason we had to make this ferry yeah and i was like well then well, then you better, then you better get with me on convincing him to go thank that kid. And I think our compromise was that she got to play good cop a little bit, which you must always agree on.
Starting point is 03:38:56 If someone's going to be good cop and someone's going to be bad cop, you agree, you take turns, but she was going to be good cop and she was going to go with him. She didn't hold his hand all the way there. She didn't talk for him, but she went going to be good cop and she was going to go with him she didn't hold his hand all the way there she didn't talk for him but she went and she stood behind him which gave him the confidence someone's got your back that makes sense yep yeah but once we once we say you will do it you will do it so now the kids are just like you say something and they just do it. So now the kids are just like, you say something and they just do it because they know they will.
Starting point is 03:39:27 So I could do it now or there could be like a big fight and consequences and it could suck. I wonder how this is going to go in teenage years. It's going to be different. We already see it, right? Like it's, um,
Starting point is 03:39:39 and, and the thing is, you've got to be ready for that. Your authority is not always going to be absolute. We're already having that conversation with the eldest where we're going like, look, you are going to be making a lot of your own decisions ongoing here, a lot more of your own decisions over time. And so we start to involve him in them.
Starting point is 03:39:57 Like, he had a bit of a persistent injury and really wanted to keep doing his badminton training but we have some concerns about developing a chronic injury before you're even an adult and we're basically like okay so here's what we're going to do we're not going to we're not going to tell you what you're going to do we're going to outline all the different possibilities and all the different options pros and cons we're going to tell you which one we think you should do and then you are going to make a decision so you have to start going through those processes with them because otherwise you're not really equipping them for the future when they will have to make their own decisions do you talk about like how you came up with those options and how you establish the pros and cons and stuff yeah so we kind of go okay look you can stay
Starting point is 03:40:40 uh doing exactly what you're doing um The pro is that you enjoy it. You're going to improve. The con is that you might not improve at the rate that you think you're going to because having an injury can affect your form. It can affect your performance in games. It can affect you mentally. It doesn't make people happy to not be improving, right? You can go cold turkey, which I think will be best for your recovery uh or
Starting point is 03:41:06 we also presented the option of training on an adjusted schedule on a like at a lower rate and he ultimately made his own decision and uh you know that's the next part is you have to respect it even if he makes the wrong one because that'll happen you kind of need to go that through that too so and you know i've you know realistically guys i i get the opportunity to talk a lot about you know the things that go right and i get to put you know my own my own spin on it i'm sure there's times that my kids have been unhappy with the approach and i'm sure there's ways that everything that we're doing uh could backfire you know the strategy that works for one kid does not necessarily work for another. So don't take all of this as just like, oh, yeah, mine thinks he's a perfect parent.
Starting point is 03:41:47 I don't. I make all kinds of mistakes. Everyone does. Be ready for that. Own it. That's a big one. Apologize. Seriously, when you get something wrong say sorry man i felt i felt bad when uh i i was so tired of
Starting point is 03:42:10 reminding the kids on weekends to brush their teeth in the morning because they do it automatically on the weekdays but they just get distracted and forget in the mornings on weekends and i came up and the girls hadn't brushed their teeth and i basically went okay no treats this weekend at all nothing nothing with sugar in it period i didn't realize one of them was going to a birthday party that day oh but i said it now that i've said it it is said so she got no cake she got no treats i felt terrible and i know this happened because um yvonne went to the party with her she got nothing you know what you know how many times she's misbrushing your teeth goose egg
Starting point is 03:42:54 yeah that makes sense but i apologized i said sorry i wouldn't have said that if i had realized that you were going to a birthday party and And, you know, so you kiss and make up, right? You like, Hey, I'm sorry. But also when I say something, it's law.
Starting point is 03:43:11 It might've been Dan. Not sure. All right. Uh, this is the same one. I just said, there's a comment in full pinch at mind. Paradox said,
Starting point is 03:43:19 my daughter tried scream shaming me into buying her candy and Walmart. When I said, no, she threw herself on the ground and flailed hands and feet screaming about how i never buy her anything i'm chaotic neutral generally so my response was to throw myself on the ground right next to her and scream i can't afford to buy you everything you want while flailing my hands and feet her four-year-old self was up in a flash and and from full-on tears to screaming to daddy daddy please are looking people are looking that's pretty good very funny i pulled that once over a donut
Starting point is 03:43:49 i was probably about eight oh yeah okay that was the one time i was spanked oh yeah he i've i it's it's like a core memory my my dad immediately dropped whatever groceries we had grabbed me by the arm took me to the car gave me one good one and went don't ever do that again i didn't i remember but i don't agree that that's the way to do it i'll give reminders like this is one of my favorites you've probably seen me do it i think so yeah that might have looked lighter than that though i've seen you it's pretty light like it's not it's not no actual pain is so i uh i was inspired um by watching like uh like some kind of bird remind its young about something and so i was like yeah uh so when they forget like a please or something like that and i i don't want to have to verbally remind them because we're
Starting point is 03:44:50 i'll just give them a double a little double index finger tap on the head they're like thank you or you know or whatever i remember these are these are not these are not great but um my my family did spanking it was very common back then i'm not my parents are great i just to be very clear um but it was once we hit a certain age it was very ineffective on my brother and i uh they were into it we played a lot of combat sports combat sports contact contact sports um so like that type it's just it it didn't matter um once the like hair brushes and spoons started breaking and we would just laugh um that was like you know that like the mental damage being inflicted was significantly heavier on the other end because they're like trying to
Starting point is 03:45:43 inflict punishment and you're just laughing amongst it uh there was also one point in time where my brother did this then i copied him because i thought it was funny we ended up doing the thing to be clear we weren't that bad of people but um my mom was like trying to get my brother to do something and he just laid on the ground and was like make me because he's like huge football player dude he's like what are you what are you gonna do uh yeah just to taunt them for a second and they did it anyways because he's a good guy but yeah um oh man it was great um okay evelyn hey wandy l the curling team i coach made it to the league. Bonspiel.
Starting point is 03:46:30 What do you all do to manage performance anxiety after an important win and when the stakes are high? I suck at it. I actually, I haven't competed much in my life, like in competition. Obviously, life is a competition. But like at even like stupid recreational badminton tournaments and stuff when it's a big match, even not even at a tournament, even when I'm playing against like the people who are like realistically too good to play with me. And I like want to do my best. I get all,
Starting point is 03:46:55 I get, I get tense, man. I, I, I really struggle with that. I have no advice for you. My brother and I both get adrenaline shakes pretty bad um i find if i'm doing
Starting point is 03:47:08 i never even knew this was a problem until i was a bit older because whenever i was in sports physical sports it would take care of itself kind of i don't know why i guess the energy was being physically expunged enough that i didn't really get the shake so much but if i was in like i used to play counter-strike at a decent level if i was in like a counter-strike tournament my hand would just and it was very frustrating i don't know how i necessarily figured this out but eventually i was still able to make shots while that was happening just compensate i have no idea sheer forceer force of will. Let's go. Brain figured it out somehow. But it was a concern for a while.
Starting point is 03:47:48 Have fun. Remember why you curl. Have fun. There's a bit of a trick where if you breathe in really deeply through your nose, and then when you've breathed in pretty much as much as you can, pause for a second and then try to breathe in a little bit more. Like. Then breathe out through your mouth and it's calming that can that can kind of pull you down a little bit um i've done that before that can genuinely help um so yeah people are giving it
Starting point is 03:48:20 a bunch of different names in full-length chat i don't know i just know it works at least it works for me you got used to the pattern of the shakes yeah maybe i don't know what it was it was it was annoying recoil compensation okay so i have to draw seven but like this yeah uh chris asks any idea when water bottles will be back in stock uh hopefully soon i um i don't know we we the store has grown a lot the business has grown a lot over the years and we haven't necessarily kept up in our processes and we've got some consultants that started a little while ago that have a lot of experience in e-tail and business management and are going to be kind of helping the team. Taryn brought them in, and I'm pretty excited for some of the differences they'll be making.
Starting point is 03:49:13 And I think just sort of inventory management is one of the things that we're going to be looking at how to do better. And that doesn't mean that we suck or we're stupid or anything like that. It just means like you're not born knowing anything i think and it takes time i'm pretty excited about because i think like we have we've promoted within a lot which is cool people like that but it does mean that i mean a lot of people that work here have at a career level of job have only worked here like i would consider myself only really having worked here i've had a ton of other jobs, but they weren't really career jobs. They were just jobs. So that means that we don't have a ton of experience in how other companies do things,
Starting point is 03:49:55 which sometimes means that we'll run into a problem and not really necessarily know what to do, which we might actually end up on the right answer, but it takes some triaging or some trial and error and hopefully we'll end up there um whereas sometimes people can just come in externally and be like oh yeah i've worked at like five different companies that are all like oh mega big this is how they do it it's like oh okay cool why reinvent a wheel yeah sometimes it's worth it often it's not yep we've invented a lot of wheels that have been pretty good wheels but sometimes there's a better wheel already yeah uh josiah asks hi mr tool tips and the gang i recently loved the ltd video on the k-swap to the synchro q704 which i
Starting point is 03:50:37 had to look up to remember what it is it's that one with the one connect power supply from um see sonic super super cool wait no this isn't the right one oh yeah yeah yeah yeah this this one yeah exactly this is the one so it has that like a power distribution thing uh from alex's from alex's upgrade anyway the point is uh they ask uh has he had any issues not that i know of um, can you do an SFF PC plus theater setup video? Honestly, if you have the space for it, I wouldn't recommend doing a small form factor for a theater because you want it to be as quiet as possible and small form factors tend to compromise on cooling.
Starting point is 03:51:21 So if it was me, i would probably go with as big of a of a of a media sort of friendly looking enclosure as i could get away with in order to have big fans in it that move a lot of air without spinning too fast that would be the best advice that i could give with that said i definitely am going to do a video turning our original steam machine prototype into a home theater pc at some point we still have it kicking around i want to build like a rip and fast compact machine in it so no but yeah and i think that's it thank you so much for tuning in we will see again next time same bad time same bad channel wait don't do it yet for float plane subscribers oh yeah assuming
Starting point is 03:52:05 dan has it working i don't know maybe there will be an after party today uh you can join us for um our uh not traditional what's the uh what's that what's the word is not traditional customary not customary give me some more give me some more words. Traditional, customary, ritual. Yes, ritual. That works. That's the one I want. Our weekly super checks ritual. Best of what?
Starting point is 03:52:33 Five? I mean, really? For the people? For the people. My throat's in like a lot of pain, but i can do seven well you have to decide ahead of time you can't know i hate this well you can't because you can't decide what it's going to be out of midway through i feel like you can't no you can't not unless you're tied but then after one game you might not be tied anymore so people are like best of eight come on you what no okay i'm i'm i'm gonna have to let the people decide i guess oh my goodness okay
Starting point is 03:53:14 let's not let the people decide let's let luke decide but he'll decide sometime between now and when we start yeah how about that all right cool okay so i guess at least five at least best of five probably best of five, probably best of seven, but we'll see. Okay. So what do we do now? I don't know how to end the show anymore.
Starting point is 03:53:31 I don't know if he wants it to be, he was talking about streaming from the other computer. So we might need to end the show and then start another one. But that's okay. Cause we can spam notifications. We're just sending notification of low plane. Yeah. So that's fine.
Starting point is 03:53:42 Yeah. I'm assuming that's what he wants to do, but I't actually know he hasn't come back down but i don't know how to end the show like he doesn't have us ended anymore there's a thing he does no you don't just press that i can probably go figure that out uh okay well i mean no you have to be here though oh to say the thing yeah so like what do we do i can call dan okay let's do that I can call Dan. Okay, let's do that. Speaking of rituals,
Starting point is 03:54:13 I haven't heard from him during the show, so I actually have no idea what his status is. oh already added that uh fun idea of dennis presenting his sponsor spots to uh their content calendar okay sounds good yeah we need you to end the stream okay bye we're helpless now dan we don't know how to do things for ourselves well apparently it was good timing he was coming down anyways because i think he's done oh nice so i think we're good to go okay sick that's awesome i did that on purpose perfect timing on purpose nice he could tell by the the percussion of the footsteps yep yeah I could tell Hopefully that wasn't too disturbing
Starting point is 03:55:06 I could tell by the angry swearing no longer happening There was a lot of that Pulling my head out Head out I think you mean hair Okay anyway Bye Oh man We need a shirt that just says bye
Starting point is 03:55:41 i love that i hate it

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