The WAN Show - Let's Find Out If I Was Wrong - WAN Show February 2, 2024

Episode Date: February 3, 2024

Get 15% your puzzle order at http://oddpieces.com/wanshow Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video. Get 20% Off + Free International Shipping with promo code WANSHOW or visit http://manscaped.com/wanshow Visit https://www.squarespace.com/WAN and use offer code WAN for 10% off Timestamps: 0:00 Chapters 1:20 Intro 1:46 Topic #1 - LTT's RTX 4070S, 4070TiS & 4080S video 2:51 Reason behind omitting the 7900 XTX, Linus mentions LTT Labs 10:02 Goal behind the review, RTX 50X0, halo V.S. realistic PCs 16:10 LTT video's analytics, Linus on embargoes & pricing 20:40 Views isn't why LTT makes videos, upcoming Chromebook video 29:44 Linus & Luke are tired of being mad, LTT's used GPU video 35:58 Luke mentions XBOX & game pass, Linus on exciting GPUs 40:15 Would young Luke be into PCs today? Luke checks eBay 47:56 Linus mentions FB Marketplace, seller fees 49:03 Linus mentions FSI's 55" TV, Amazon's category V.S. search 1:00:02 Linus on buying & unboxing a 56" TV to fit in his Taycan 1:10:50 LTT Going through u/Frashure11's backpack newsletter 1:11:31 Free shipping for orders including 3D down jacket 1:12:27 LTT precision screwdriver newsletter 1:13:16 Merch Messages #1 1:28:53 Linus showcases YT's superchat bug 1:50:27 Sponsor - Odd Pieces 1:51:40 Sponsor - Manscaped 1:52:39 Sponsor - Squarespace 1:53:48 Topic #2 - GM will bring back PHEVs 2:01:42 Topic #3 - Linus tries to cancel Arcade on Apple TV 2:06:13 Topic #4 - Japanese government lets go of floppy disks 2:08:34 Apple Support site requires iTunes, Linus makes a call 2:10:45 iCloud & Apple ID, Linus on devices to unsubscribe 2:13:58 Topic #4: Apple Vision Pro released, good reviews 2:15:27 Meta Quest now supports 3D spatial videos & gamepads 2:18:30 Linus's conclusion, a funny Windows main menu search 2:24:18 LTT ordered a Vision Pro, updating firmware require phones 2:28:13 What is the Vision Pro for? Luke on the laptop side 2:33:48 Linus on whether it's worth it, recalls Google Glass 2:41:20 Topic #5 - Nightshade's data poisoning AI tool 2:46:35 Topic #6 - Universal Music Group removes songs from TikTok 2:47:10 Topic #7 - Spec Ops - The Line delisted from digital stores 2:48:56 Topic #8 - Edge steals tabs from Chrome 2:49:25 Merch Messages #2 ft. WAN Show After Dark, Teams & default browsers 2:50:33 Wisdom of hosting video services ft. Pokimane, IVS, stats 2:59:24 Worst thing that happened during a CPU upgrade? 3:02:38 Wearing the "Steve" shirt for senior software engineer interview 3:03:33 What do you do to continue paused projects? ft. Replacing wipers 3:20:57 Linus's opinion on the MIG Switch 3:24:34 What franchise you felt let you down the most? ft. Games 3:35:09 A good way to market tech skills to non-tech employers? 3:38:03 International projects you're anticipating? ft. Stormgate 3:40:27 What is the next step for LMG? 3:42:31 Ever realized you were doing something you'll remember forever? 3:52:25 Will we be able to buy LTTStore products at the LAN center? 3:53:11 Thoughts on the Apple AirTags notifying thieves they're tracked? 3:55:42 Why is Linus built funny? 3:57:42 Luke's favorite build on Slay the Spire 3:58:46 What's the weirdest hardware thing you've ever seen? 4:00:56 Favorite janky cooling video on the channel? 4:02:37 Any way to combat poor communication as a team lead? 4:07:59 Thoughts on pre-ordering Framework laptops? 4:08:19 Have you tried S24's AI features to find faces? ft. Dan's phone 4:12:56 What are some of the cooler tech put in PC cases? 4:13:41 Most expensive tech employees don't use as intended? 4:15:41 Topic #9 - Knickknacks in the WAN Show set 4:17:38 Luke finds a $5,900 ceramic rhino 4:18:19 Linus on Montauk Sofa, Moooi's $6,498 horse lamp 4:22:07 Linus recommends Luke to visit the store, explains Carriage House 4:24:31 Luke points out better lamps, Dan's looking for 4ft 3D printers 4:26:26 Hardest decision to make in 2023 that should've been simple? 4:26:48 Outro ft. "I regret nothing! Nothing!! NOTHING!!!" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the WAN show! Sorry, one sec. Oh, no! Not this time! Dang. We have got a great show lined up for you guys today. We are finally going to be doing the segment where I find out if I was right or Reddit was right about the difficulties that I had unsubscribing from apple arcade on my apple tv actually even if it does work properly that might mean something changed but we'll get into that a little bit later we're also going to be addressing the community response

to our nvidia super series review and hey maybe i left something for luke to talk about he's got to pick topics now so he can't be distracted by his phone. Yeah, that's what I thought, Luke. Did he talk about the EVs? Nope. Oh, nice. Okay, so GM is to bring back plug-in hybrid EVs, which is awesome, actually.

Yeah, hilarious. Something that we've been asking for for a while now. Ever since they stopped making the Volt. I was like, wow. Which was an amazing car. What a terrible decision. Yeah. How could they make this? they make this oh okay yeah they unmade the decision very cool which is great good job um did you talk about the neural link nope and neural link was put in a person someone someone agreed to do that luke could you pay less attention yes not much though Yes. Not much, though.

No. The show is brought to you today by Odd Pie manscaped and squarespace uh why don't we jump into the uh community response to the nvidia super series review so uh we decided rather than to spread our coverage of nvidia's super lineup the 4070 super 4070 ti super and 4080 super over i think it was a grand total of i want to say i think it was nine it was like it was it was somewhere between seven and nine total embargo dates uh between the no i think it was seven i think it was seven because they had the announcement then they had unboxing embargoes for each card then they had review embargoes for each card no then they also had a separate or something they had a separate review embargo for partner cards rather than founders edition cards for at least some of it was it was some ludicrous number of embargo dates

and i was kind of sitting here going okay so basically what you want is you want video after video after video after video that is just dedicated to talking about a mid-cycle refresh. Sorry, no. So what we're going to do is we're just going to consolidate it into one video. However, there is one super thing that people are pretty upset about in this particular video, and that was the non-inclusion of AMD's RX 7900 XTX, seeing as it's widely viewed as an important competitor to the 4080 super uh not least of which because it is at the same ish msrp it's actually a little bit lower from

the listings that i've seen somewhere in the kind of 930 40 to 950 dollar range um oh usd yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah not not in rubles canadian canadian price i was like that's really far off yeah no no no no no no so basically i was in the room when it happened when we made the decision to not include the 7900 xtx um i have some of my own thoughts about why we ultimately made the call that we did to include the suite of cards that we did. But I'm going to start with the news team summary from Adam, who was the writer on that project and who worked with the labs on it. Basically, point A, the decision to exclude the 7900 XTX was based on a combination of relevance and testing capacity. We saw this as a review of the new Super series as a whole.

It was not a review of the 4080 Super, even though we did target close to the 4080 Super embargo, since that was the last one from the lineup. The 4080 Super is anywhere from 2% to 3% faster than a base 4080, making it more of a refresh with a price cut, essentially, is how we kind of laid it out in the video we referred to it as 4080 refresh 4080 um internally we were calling it 4080 refried 4080 redux um retesting cards for up-to-date results takes time we tested a total

of 11 cards for this video we haven't fully rolled out our our new standardized test benches that allow us to test in parallel yet so there was a limited number of cards that we were able to if you are interested in that there's a video on that that's awesome yeah where they test all the cpus go back and check that out um we actually ended up adding a couple of cards that weren't in the original meeting and there was one more spot where we kind of went, okay, can we test one more card? If so, what will it be? And the debate was between the 7700 XT and the 7900 XTX.

And the decision was, okay, let's go with the 7700 XT. We don't want to cut the older cards. We've gotten really good feedback from people that it's really nice to have popular older cards. So we chose our previous generation cards based on what is still holding really strong in the Steam hardware survey.

We didn't want to cut those because we've gotten really good feedback on them. And we figured that the 7700 xt would give additional context for the lower priced cards that would be relevant to the greater number of viewers obviously not everyone agrees um number two is being selective about how many cards we retest in every video is an important consideration to avoid unnecessary stress and overtime. This is one of those funny things where it's always kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. Catch-22, if we test 35 cards, I'm going to be questioned on why we have so much crunch here.

If we test three cards, I'm going to be questioned on why we're so lazy here. At the end of the day, there's always trade-offs, and we ultimately made the trade-off to go with the 7700 xt rather than the 7900 xtx there's a lot of stuff going on in the tech world right now and i gotta be honest with you guys this wasn't the most exciting one yeah and you know coming back to sort of my thoughts on it first of all we are going to we're going to address it um i think someone is it's doing some ot this weekend to test 7900 xtx we're going to get those numbers added um but you know the reality of it is looking at the percentage of people that are are very upset about this versus the percentage

of people who are actually buying a 7900 xtx um they're very very different and what it seems like to me is that this is one of those things where maybe video is just like not the right format like one of the one of the challenges too is you can only include so many cards if you want to have averages, which do matter. Legible chart. And 1% lows, which in my mind are actually more important. If you want to have all of that

in a 16 by nine graph, it starts to get kind of illegible past a certain point. And I'm kind of looking at it going, man, you know, maybe the solution is why exactly are we doing a review for a gpu anymore i mean we killed power supplies 10 years ago we killed motherboards like nine years ago

as sort of here's a product that merits a full ltd video it didn't particularly perform better no no it didn't particularly perform well at all in spite of the fact that it was a ton of work like man let me tell you the cards that we did test guys it was meticulous we put so much flipping work into this stuff and i'm sitting here going if it's not about what you're actually going to buy which is the feedback that i'm kind of hearing right now and it's more about what you just you want it you want to see it compared right like you want to see you know the green horse versus the red horse which one ran the fastest and that's fair enough that's totally valid but that doesn't need to be a video and maybe the long-term solution is the lab's website and we just basically go okay yeah the card comes in

we test the stuffing out of it and if it's actually interesting then we make an ltd video and we put all the all the effort into all the different ways that we present the graphs and so they're paced with the script and all the things that go into making an entertaining uh dense video i mean i'm actually other than that one miss which i acknowledge 100 yeah looking back at it i flagged it um i was like hey we should probably have the 7900 xtx and the argument that was made to me as i recall was well here's the thing the 7900 xt has dropped in price so much and that it actually makes a ton of sense now and so by taking this end of things and just having the 4080 Super be there as a $1,000 card, I mean, to be clear, we never recommended spending $1,000 on a GPU at all.

So just, yeah, having that thing sit there and be its thing, and then looking at anything that we actually think might be worth buying in more detail is the right approach. And I kind of went, okay, I mean, I, the i the enthusiast i'm curious i'd want to know okay how does the 7900 xtx stack up against the 4080 super it really is a fairly apples to apples comparison but i accepted that i accepted that reasoning and i accepted the rest of the reasoning that's in uh that's in our notes here today and we ultimately didn't include it um other than that honestly i'm i think it's a great video it's really short um one of our goals going into it was to spend absolutely zero zero time wasting the viewer's time so from the moment this video starts there we go oh viewer time wasted there we go yeah exactly from the moment this video starts

to the first performance graph is sorry sorry it happened really fast is uh five seconds we wanted to get to the point right away. And then our next graph where we basically start laying things out. Here we go. We compare it to an older card comes at about a minute and then we get into actual results within about 80 seconds. spent a total of 13 minutes to go through this whole kind of sort of interesting launch we talked about the changes in pricing we talked about the changes in performance and yeah there's a card missing from the graphs but i found it oh what'd you find i found the card so card located yeah i can actually tell you about that. So noticing that, hey, maybe we should acknowledge this card. I think Gary actually ran some testing over the weekend, and then we added that table. But we didn't remake all of the graphs because we were like,

okay, it's a $1,000 GPU. How many people are actually buying this versus for most people actually shopping um how much of the information have we presented in this video um yeah swing and miss but overall i'm still i still think this is a good direction reducing the amount of time that it takes to process these sort of uninteresting refreshes. And the main takeaway for me from this whole experience of that, man, do you remember when one NVIDIA GPU was like millions of views and people were excited? And now three NVIDIA GPUs. like millions of views and people were excited and now a pile of free nvidia gpus i saw one comment that really stood out to me um and it gpus are boring i don't care and i think i think nvidia feels the

same way yeah what's their stock up like six points today or something like that i don't even know yeah it has nothing to do with the rtx 40 series super launch um five points i don't know it's it's funny reading comments like this. I usually agree with Linus, but, uh, you know, hard pass on this reasoning. What reasoning? I said it was a miss. What do you, what do you, I'm explaining why it wasn't in there. Cause that's what people want to know. And then I'm saying it was a miss. I don't really know what there is to disagree with at that point. Here was our reasoning. No, that person thinks it shouldn't have been in the video i'm joking oh well that makes more sense now he's agreeing with the original decision um yeah i i just

i just i just think video just might not be the right format for this anymore though and i think it might depend on the card right but what cards yeah name okay i bet you a 5000 series launch even if the difference is this small i bet you a 5000 series launch would kill here's the problem the problem is that 5000 series is going to be flipping fast because nvidia has to do all of the development anyway in order to make better ai accelerators yeah so it's going to be flipping fast but i wouldn't be surprised at all to see a 5090 or you know whatever they end up calling it ti super rti who who knows anymore what their naming scheme so whatever the 5090 whatever that equivalent halo to your card is i wouldn't be surprised to see it at two thousand dollars

and what gamers have shown nvidia time and time again is that they'll pay yeah because some something to consider something that i think the the components buyers don't necessarily think about that much because it's a really different perspective is that for most people a 400 difference in the gpu is actually only about an eight percent difference in the total cost of the system they were planning to buy if you're buying a system that would have a 4090 or 5090 or whatever else, like some kind of Halo spec card in it, you are spending probably somewhere between three to $5,000 on that computer. And so when you play around with the sliders, you're not looking at,

oh, I just spent twice as much on my GPU, you're looking at, oh, I just spent 25% more on the total system for you know so let's say call it a 50 increase in performance or you know whatever that increase is generationally so the calculus is really different and most people don't build their own computers so the market reality that someone like an nvidia is setting their price according to is not aligned with the reality that we see when we put together like a price to performance like a like an fps per dollar chart or something like that because the fps per dollar that we calculate is based on only the card pricing whereas someone who's buying a computer someone who's buying a fully

completed system is not actually looking at it that way yeah anyway yeah we got a million views and so i'm sitting here going do you think that okay like do you think it would have gotten more views if the uh if the sentiment around it was better because the 7900 xdx was included no i don't think so i think it's a it's it's it's separated it's a small number of people who are upset about it uh in the grand scheme of things the like dislike ratio in this video i can bring this up for you guys is actually not abnormal in any way um here let me pull it up um here let me pull it up

there we go analytics so it's net positive for subscribers engagement is about a percent below channel average but it started out for the first probably eight hours or so, a percent above channel average. It started out being received extremely well. And then over time, as people have piled into the comments, it's been received much more poorly. Sentiments shifting. Yep, sentiments shifted. I've seen that before. And so, oh yeah, view duration is, oh, view duration is oh view duration is extremely low

wow you gave them the whole story at five seconds oh this is amazing so yeah this is this is what happens when you're basically like okay yeah here's the deal here's what's up with this thing in the first two minutes so we get to 1080p results and everyone's like, see you later. So this gray band right here is your typical duration for a video of this length or your typical retention on this channel. So this is specifically relevant to our channel. All anyone wants to see is a graph and then the rest of it is just kind of like noise apparently um so this is one of those things where i think people think they want to see a lot of graphs and a lot of visualizations and a lot of analysis they want it to be interesting but what they actually want is to

watch an interesting video and what really stands out to me about this particular one is and to be clear i'm not saying we're not going to cover gpus i'm just saying it's probably going to end up being on short circuit or not be like a default you're not going to cover it by default anymore or we'll do it but not bother doing it at embargo why are we bothering let's test it sure we'll test it before embargo we'll make sure the thing's actually interesting and then let's put together a cool project with it or something rather than just saying here's a gpu because or or maybe we consolidate it you know we do a quarterly gpu update that's kind of cool i would i would click on that personally because the problem with the

problem with at launch videos and this is an inherent problem this is not something that i think anyone can solve is that you're taking the manufacturer's word for what the street pricing is going to be and that ended up causing a lot of backlash toward the reviewer community back when nvidia and their partners were increasing pricing on the 30 series because we would review a card with the best information we have at the time and then it would turn out that it would have a street price that's 20 30 50 100 percent higher and all of a sudden it's our fault and we're sitting here going crying out loud guys yeah in the past they've been off by a little bit but my goodness this has never happened like this before and so if we do something like a quarterly update then we can

basically just go okay yeah here's the actual street pricing here's the testing for this particular card the one that anyone is actually buying because because we can look at, okay, what's getting the most reviews? What is actually ranking high on bestsellers at sites like Newegg or Amazon or Best Buy or whatever the case may be? And we can give you guys a snapshot of what the market looks like without any constraints, like being limited to pricing information that is provided to us in a very optimistic form by the GPU chipset maker.

Yeah. Right. So the reason I had brought this up was because... Here, hold on. I'm just going to filter by... And to be clear, guys, views is not the be-all and end and end all it's not the only reason we make videos we make videos because we think something's really cool or we make it because um we some we think this is something that's never been done before or because we think it's something people really

need to know um occasionally it's just because i'm really passionate about something i want to talk about it we have a video coming up soon that is not going to get a lot of views uh it's going to be called stop calling them chromebooks oh and it's basically um i don't know video essay or kind of a a chat about how i believe that chromebooks are going to become laptops we're not going to call them chromebooks anymore we're going to call them laptops because did you know that it is one checkbox now to just turn chrome os into i chrome os is linux chrome os might be with the team fortress two hat so that that's my thesis how many people i just speed ran how many people i can piss off i know i know sorry that's not going to get a ton of views. So my point is that it's not the only calculus,

but it is something that we have to at least consider. We have people who I actually, it turns out, cannot pay in graphics cards and water bottles. They do need to be paid with money. And if we aren't making content that people and and and the other thing is that if it's not getting views well that's an indication that it's something people don't want to watch and so we should definitely be making videos people want to watch and i mean have a look at have a look at the other stuff we uploaded in the last little while

so for this graphics card um we get you know this will end up probably in the 1.3 1.4 range uh it has a below average so our average is around 97 and a half percent for like dislike ratio okay so i did a tour of a building we bought talking about how we're gonna run lands there people flip in love it way more viewership uh we collab with someone cool like meddy electro boom that video is fun people flip in love it and watch the crap out of it we just we come in on the weekend and just upgrade the network infrastructure above average. Even this, even this dry as toast, hey, here's 12 CPUs and we tested them.

Yeah, it didn't get views, which we knew it wasn't going to, but we just thought it was really important. This is a sick video though. So let's see how far back we have to go to find something that people are just as apathetic about as NVIDIA's super launch. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. I mean going i mean even okay here we go here we go here we go no even this sponsored video on asus's zephyrus laptop refresh can't get that low let's keep going and guys no i i don't think that all this negativity just comes down to

that people are actually that upset about one gpu that wasn't included here we go here it is for airjet where we like mangled that macbook um where we mangled that MacBook. And I think that really a big part of that was probably the title. We've updated the title now to include for systems, whatever. That usually happens anywhere from a week to three weeks after we upload.

We'll add a better descriptor at the end. But I think some people thought it was going to be more something Apple can do immediately or something. And so there was a little bit of bounce off of that video. But overall, it was going to be more something apple can do immediately or something and so there was there was a little bit of bounce off of that video but overall it was one that the comments are overwhelmingly positive on so i think it was just um i mean everything is just kind of like crystal ball um at a certain point you know why why did people like this or not like it and you can you can read a lot of comments you can look at a lot of analytics but it's there's always going to be a little bit of guesswork involved uh but at the end of the day

yeah this um it's a high risk low reward video i i like the idea of we'll still produce that type of content yeah it'll just be an article on the lab's website it'll be a craft and if it's in the creation of that we're like whoa there's a cool story here now there's a video now there's a video because that's that's something we've discussed about how the lab site could work for a really long time yeah so you can still come to linus tech tips linus media group to get this type of information just clearly you're sniping the video for graphs anyways so just go to the site and get the graphs yeah yeah like that's that way there's just there's zero wasting of anyone's time this is all you want to know anyway yeah and then we need to test the stuff anyhow because i want to do i want to do more build videos and stuff like that i want to

i want to do cool builds i want to do more uh i want to do more roundups i want to do more build videos and stuff like that i want to i want to do cool builds i want to do more uh i want to do more roundups i want to do more um just kind of updates keeping people up to date so we have to do the testing anyway but we don't have to do it on embargo day we don't have to do it under constraints like yeah not having proper access to what the exact pricing is going to be prior to publishing time like crazy fever dream all-nighters and work on weekends and stuff like that. Yep. I think, you know, at the end of the day, this is not entirely my decision. This is something that we're going to talk to the team about, but

it's also not something that I think is that outlandish anymore. And we've seen this decline over time. This is not the first time we've asked the question should we do gpu reviews anymore i think the first i'm trying to think i'm trying to think of a gpu that launched um looking at all the negativity around 40 series that was that was certainly a time when we wondered i would say probably around the time of 4060 series and the 7600 we were just looking at it going if amd and nvidia can't even care about this category how can they possibly expect their customers to care? And if their customers don't care,

why are we covering it? Yeah. Man, I'm trying to think. Probably the peak would have been the announcement of the 3080. When was that exactly um i think you'll be surprised how long ago it was trying to so that was also at a very particular time which makes sense why it would have peaked uh september 17th 2020 when everyone was like here it is i'm gonna stay indoors for a super long time. This was the peak.

And you can play video games on computers? 5.1 million views. And yeah, it's been three years or whatever, but don't kid yourself. Nobody's watching that today. That took off like a rocket ship. And then the actual review. Yeah, that was the last time people cared

about a GPU launch. Yeah yeah what was the 4080 launch brutal uh yeah we can have a look 4080 right 1.1 million no way no one cared no way pricing it's a00 graphics card who gives a shit $1200 I could buy a Playstation 5 I could buy an Xbox Series X I could buy an extra controller for each of my bros for each of those consoles

so me and my little brother or my little sister can play together and some games no because it's $500 each for those consoles is it? well okay not if i get the not if i get the digital edition but if i'm buying first party controllers you're also probably getting bundles if i don't buy first party controllers though yeah i might even be able to squeeze in a tv maybe maybe it'd be that i was i was assuming once you added the second console

and stuff i was assuming you weren't going the TV route. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Or, to your point, I could buy a console, a full complement of first-party controllers, and a decent TV. And your console's very likely coming with a bundle. It's f***ing ridiculous. Like, it just doesn't make any sense anymore. Yeah.

So, I don't know. and I'm tired of being mad isn't anyone else just tired of being mad I don't know if they are but I am it's exhausting yeah yeah it is I don't know and like to be completely honest um a lot of the old cards are fine i don't know uh like 1440p monitors uh 90 to 144 frames per second decently old cards are running a lot of new games no problem yep i mean very respectable settings we did this video a little while back only you can this is a this is probably a bad title i i don't know how to fix it though because it's sort of um yeah i don't know how to fix it but basically i i scrap yards scrapyard wars a single gpu the only solution to gpu pricing yeah um what a great intro that was and begged a gpu anyway the point is um instead of being mad just don't give them your money yeah buy a secondhand gpu there's a lot of them out there and they're generally in a really good condition i don't think i've or not personally ever bought one that ended

up being a problem or with a little bit of macgyver know-how i mean the one that i bought in this video had a fan that was a little bit squeaky yeah um okay but that's fixable with like a four dollar fan off of aliexpress like the i uh i'm i'm i it would be very off brand for me to say well then i don't know the fan could, the fan could make a little bit of extra noise, so you should probably buy a brand new card. Yeah. That's not me. That's never going to be me, guys.

Yeah, someone in chat, I think I lost the message, but let's see. Red Pigeon in chat said, my 3080, that's a pretty high-end card, but my 3080 still runs everything i play perfectly the only game it struggles in at high settings is cyberpunk which is like an extremely insanely hard game to run especially in high settings it's also one game yeah so play it and then just run it at like medium and then yes it actually still looks really good at medium yeah um i feel like we do end up

i feel like we do end up getting kind of taunted into spending more on a gpu sometimes by just the existence of higher detail sliders i do i do wonder as much as as a geek i love that cd project red just keeps adding yeah new technology to cyberpunk you don't have to turn it on it's the coolest thing ever i mean it's the new it's the new crisis they they literally add settings that they know that no modern hardware can possibly push at a reasonable frame rate but i i do i do wonder if that ends up almost having a negative effect on people.

The existence of that slider makes them feel bad about their GPU when if they just set it to a lower setting and then just never looked at it at Ray Trace Ultra overkill preset or whatever

they would just enjoy the game and and and be happy with it yeah i mean some of the biggest games this year pal world you don't need a freaking powerful gpu to play pal world no not at all ball's gate 3 is going to run fine oh yeah uh i i for a period of time ran ballers gate 3 on a uh titan rtx which is 2080 equivalent i think roughly no problem whatsoever 2080 ti 2080 yeah 2080 was a lot lower than 2080 ti because nvidia's naming scheme means nothing it's ridiculous yeah um but but still that's that's multiple generations back and i i don't think i noticed a huge difference when i put in one of the newer more powerful cards it's just whatever so that's two of the biggest games in the last quite a while neither of which would have an

issue with a 2000 series card let alone a three or four you can run lethal company on potato that's another game that blew up recently yep speaking of running games on a potato we finally did it potato powered computer no okay good run for like a second if you got it to turn on at all you probably could i have no idea. The potato computer. What? It's water-cooled. What? Because of course it is.

You're not going to explain, are you? It's a potato computer. There's nothing to explain. We built a computer in a potato. In a potato? Is this like a special variety of potato that's extremely large no oh it's a russet potato see that's probably going to get more views than the 4080 super refresh oh it'll get way more yeah and it's also way cooler because it's interesting honestly it's it's technology that's actually moving really fast right now.

Like we, because what we're highlighting is AMD's APUs and how, and so there's this really cool minis forum system that we use to, that we dismantle in order to make our potato PC that is shockingly small. Because I haven't seen anyone integrate these processors, these really powerful apus that amd has been coming out with over the last year or so in anything other than a handheld

gaming pc or a laptop where you can only make them so small because they have to have screens and batteries and and things that you don't need in a standalone pc so things like this big it's it's freaking tiny and we were like can we finally do it anyway a lot of shenanigans ensues because it's me and david who we seem to have developed a bit of a vibe uh for the projects that we work on together but uh you guys aren't going to want to miss that one it's a lot of fun i just want to jump to this to to talk about your previous point oh sure um so there's an xbox series x oh that's canadian pricing though yeah yeah oh i see my point though yes is that it comes with 24 months

of game pass ultimate oh wow so for um half the price of a 4080 super. Yeah. You can have this and two. I think this is actually slightly less than half the price. And two years of playing. Does it come with EA Play 2? Yeah, it comes with both. Yeah. Hilarious. So, and like this is Canadian dollars.

So when you look at 4080 Super in Canadian dollars, there is easily enough money to get a very solid TV on top of this. you have to maintain, you know, your margins in order to make sure that stock price go up and all those things that you have to do, I guess, in order to, in order to maintain your health and, and keep investing in the future of technology and all that stuff. And they do that stuff. They, they build really cool technology. I'll never hate on Nvidia for their tech. It's amazing. But guys, you have to kind of understand what's going on here right now. You are alienating your evangelical users. You are even worse than alienating. You are creating a culture of apathy in the gaming enthusiast community.

They're just bored. And that is a huge problem. today not tomorrow but it will be that's going to be an enormous problem unless you just don't care and if you just don't care then fine um but you know if there's anything that you can do to convey this to the higher ups that it would be maybe prudent at some point to do something exciting um i think you should consider it and it's not like i'm sure that went nowhere unfortunately oh yeah i know yeah but i mean i had to say it sure what am i going to do not say it yeah i should say it and nvidia nvidia knows how to do exciting 8800 gt when nvidia decides to be exciting they can do it 30 series launch that was exciting

and when they decide not to be exciting well they know how to do that too no no when i say exciting guys i don't just mean worthy of purchase at all i mean exciting 8800 gt was a moment of gaming excitement all of a sudden for literally half the price with some compromises it had less vram but you could get performance that was close to what the the day prior would have cost you $500. I have to make some clarifications. Sure. Apparently the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate All Access something or other, whatever I called it,

is some form of financing option thing. Oh, is that why? So you pay for it over 24 months and then it comes with game pass ultimate so you you pay for like the console and game pass ultimate as a subscription for 24 months oh okay but then i think you own the console at the end or something i don't know okay well however it works you were so far below the cost of the gpu anyway that i still think we're in the clear yeah because i found this anyways that's us dollars yeah so there you go oh they're oh wow they're under 500 now wow microsoft must really need to move some units i don't think sony's discounted ps5 if anything they've increased the

price it's freaking february yeah what apparently it's zero percent interest that 24 month payment thing okay i don't know i don't know anything about it i'm not suggesting finance models i just found the one that isn't financing is us dollars because that's the main thing we're having the conversation in and it's less than 500 bucks so the point still completely stands here's our discussion topic you are now let's say 15 year old luke you are now let's say 15 year old luke sick yeah i know you know you're stronger i'm happy smarter faster things are improving in general yeah i'm not as broken do you need to talk are you okay things are great okay so you're 15 year old luke yeah um the one the one thing is going well the one thing that's worse is that you don't have any money i was very broke everything else was better but you don't have any money yeah do you take up pc gaming right now uh probably not or do you just because back then i was i didn't really care

i cared i mean this is still honestly kind of true just pcs can play so much more now that's true but back then i i was in it for the games for the most part and i got interested in computers mostly because i needed to learn how to work with them and fix them and keep them going to be able to play games. And like, I needed to learn basic networking because my friend and I wanted to play Diablo on LAN. And then I needed to learn still basic, but slightly less basic networking because we wanted to have lands of like a bunch of computers and multiple Xboxes all at the same time. And I wanted to be able to host servers for things and all this kind of stuff that was all largely because of games and that's what drove my passion for technology but we pretty much always had consoles at the same time and i would always

pretty much play both um because like i talk about how morrowind is my favorite game of all time all the time i didn't play it on pc i had it on xbox i played the crap out of the halo games not on pc yeah i played them on xbox we had a some of my favorite memories of playing games with my dad were on super nintendo and n64 like and he played warcraft 2 on playstation 1 not on pc i'm just kidding please don't do that no uh then we we had pcs, but it was, it was about like what game I felt like playing at the time. And if PCs were this hard to get into, um, yeah,

I mean, we didn't have a ton of money. It would have come down to a costing issue and would have stuck with consoles. Like just is what it is. And I probably still would have gotten interested in technology because I still would have been having lands. So would have had to network these consoles together and stuff. But like, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, looking back, when I got into computer games, I got into games that could run on a computer. I wasn't, we didn't have a fancy computer. I don't think we had a dedicated graphics card until I needed to play Civilization II Test of Time. And in order for the full motion video diplomats and stuff, emissaries to show up, you had to support some level of Direct3D.

I forget what it was, but I basically went to bargain bites you know some hole in the wall computer shop in mission of all places and i was like okay uh this is the minimum requirement on the box i'm pretty sure i physically brought the box i need something to do that too i need something that this and until then we didn't even have a dedicated graphics card. So everything was like CPU accelerated. My point isn't that we couldn't have bought a GPU instead of a console or something like that. My point is that it was just there. I fell into it.

We are asking for people to make an enormous commitment to PC gaming before they ever actually fire up a game yeah the fact that the 40 super refresh didn't do anything for the sub 500 range is what people should be talking about right now yeah the fact that 40 60 series nvidia kind of looked at at this point and went yeah that seems fine is ridiculous to me i'm trying to see on new egg right now what i can get for less than 449 usd like if i'm an american shopper yeah And so I set my filter down here to four 49 cap. Um,

so I can, I can get an entire Xbox series X. Yeah. Um, with the controller and stuff, or I can get, there isn't really like, uh,

what's this? Hold on. Hold on. Have you filtered for things that are in stock and shipped by new egg? Um, sold by new egg. Yeah. we go in stock a lot of pop-ups new egg new egg has turned into a gigantic piece of shit lately it's very annoying it's it used to be an oasis of easy filtering and and somewhat intuitive shopping and now it's just awful, though. It's not nearly as bad as Amazon. Uh, did you see, I added a, I added a segment, uh, just called like Amazon sucks or something like that. I want to do, I want to do a fun little demo for you as

soon as you're done with this. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying different filter options and stuff i just did best rating um sure okay so what do we got 4060 ti awesome i think is probably our best one so for 400 is that the 8 gig version though nice yeah so for 400 do you know how much eight gigs of gddr6 costs i'll give you a hint not a lot like nothing yeah oh man yeah 460 ti i'm not really seeing above that i think um. There's 7600 XTs and stuff, but those are lower. At that point, you're saving almost $100. I'm not saying it's a bad deal. I'm just trying to look for ones that are closely priced to that Xbox. There we go. Here's $425.

What do I get for $425? $3070. Okay. When did the $3070 come out? Because there's a pretty Monster deal on this. So basically I can buy some ancient card from October of 2020. That's right, friends.

I can buy a three and a three and a quarter year old GPU that launched for, hold on, hold on. 3D70 launch price that launched at 499 sorry what was it priced at today uh 4 425 oh man and who do we blame joe biden this sucks because yeah uh this sucks because we we were telling people to go by used but oh these are canadian prices that's why yeah yeah yeah never mind so these so it is a lot cheaper to buy yes actually and there was some cheaper ones down here so like in this if you're

going on new egg to buy a 30 70 like you're also probably doing it yeah that's not bad like that's 230 or so us dollars that that fe for 300 bucks oh no that's that's bids that's bids so sorry that's not a buy it now um right now 454 yeah so it's around around 350 not that you should do the buy it now necessarily no and honestly i've had a lot of luck with facebook marketplace recently just because there's no seller fees. So on eBay, it used to be that you could get really good deals, but eBay seller fees are quite high now. And I understand why, because they offer buyer protection, which basically, as far as I can tell, is just a nightmare to administer.

So there are services that they offer that do add to the cost of running the platform. I get it. But the seller fees are quite high so if you can meet up with someone in person and if you can verify that the thing actually works then more times than not it's uh it's it's a way to go it's a way to go people are like eight gigs for 30 70. Right, but you weren't getting anything with more than 8 gigs at that price anyway. Yeah. So yeah, it's awful. No one's debating that.

Yeah, yeah. The whole point is that it's rough. Yeah. 13% is the seller fees on GPUs at the moment, apparently. Yeah, that's freaking a lot. Oh, here, can i play this game with you let's play the game called i'm gonna go to amazon.com and try to actually buy something uh okay so i don't know so here's the thing i don't know if this is going to happen the same

way that it did when i was sitting in script review with someone earlier this week right because i don't know it seems to be just like rng let's see what's going to come up when you click on something on amazon these days but i was trying to figure out what was kind of the going rate for a 55 inch tv because we've got a really cool video coming on this um flanders scientific heard of them no okay they do instruments they also do mastering monitors i was gonna say wait maybe i have yeah yes i have all right so uh what is it flanders scientific instruments fsi i think uh flanders scientific inc sorry okay fsi whatever flanders came in and was like hi diddly ho guys i hope they actually said that they didn't um and they

brought a 55 inch mastering monitor that's based on samsung's latest qd oled panel okay and we were writing an intro for this video and i was like okay you know what would be kind of fun is to do a bit of a like well switch you know switcheroo where we start the video in kind of like a ranty form like who would buy this thing for twenty thousand dollars it's got bezels that looks like it i dragged it out of my grandma's basement it doesn't even come with a remote control and it doesn't have an hdmi port for crying out loud right so we kind of just roast yeah we kind of we kind of roast it which is was even more fun because the uh flanders scientific guys were in the room while we were filming this

um the the unit they they basically hand carried the unit because they were on their way to do a demo somewhere or something and allowed us to make a video and test it because normally we would not have access to this kind of stuff and then when we were done they had to take it away with them um anyway so we so we do this bit um and as part of that i wanted to have a comparison point for okay well what's a what's kind of your going rate for a 55 inch monitor monitor? Because sure, you could spend $1,200 on a 55-inch, did I say monitor? Sorry. The Flanders Scientific is a monitor,

but I was talking TV. So you could spend like $1,200 on a 55-inch TV, but you could also spend X. I wanted to know like how low have they gotten these days? And so the exercise was electronics, television and video, and trying to find a television there's one here's a 40 inch vizio here's an antenna some of these things an antenna okay here's a magic stick i think there's a song about that yeah yeah yeah it's the the the penis of magic right

magic stick a man of culture i see here's a usbc cable here's some sponsored results for a toss link cable that's cool did i do something wrong amazon.com maybe um nenhancer says i've never had the issues you've had with amazon but i never searched by category

i just searched what i want to say i wonder if it's a category so i just searched what's going on with me right now laptop yeah i just searched the I want to find. I was going to say, I wonder if it's a category. So I just searched. What's going on with me right now? Let's go to Luke Laptop. Yeah, I just searched the word television. Sure, but like, I want to browse Luke. Is this not browsing? See, look, they figured it out. The filters on the side are all TV filters. Oh my God, but why?

Why is, why did what I, why is it that what I did didn't work? I searched TV and that worked too. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that I... You're just saying to get good. Am right. I mean, okay, maybe try and find it then. Maybe I missed it.

I legitimately don't use Amazon. So where is it? Where's TV? Isn't it in here? You could try movies and television that's not the one i clicked on okay or what did i what did i what did i click on exactly i switched i looked at televisions and video products where's okay no that was that was that was i don't think i have that seriously hold on i don't know i no you don't i am not kidding it's under electronics

under electronics it's nested yeah. Yeah, there we go. There we go. Okay, so fine. Where are the bloody TVs then? Television video. What even is that? I don't know. It's cool though.

It's a replacement lamp. For a projector, I guess? It looks sick. Yeah, for a projector. For the restoration of color it will bring you a feeling of being immersed people are telling me hold on hold on people are telling me i need to go hold on we're going back to my screen people are telling me i need to go one level deeper oh no i don't there is no level deeper model year what's that movie i mean at least model year brings up some tvs yeah but you gotta go deeper i don't think there's a deeper layer what

is this the universal big button tv remote yeah wow they sold six thousand six thousand reviews of this thing what what is this this is a sabrent thunderbolt ethernet adapter what is this doing here this is an absolute quagmire get that bread sabrent and i don't see i'm sorry guys i don't see 3d really what year is it smart tv you mean every tv okay this might help this might help okay so if i click smart tv then that's actually i think a lot of the same results i got when i just searched tv that's the magic hack so that's the deeper level and i understand why you would just search tv but let me explain why i don't want to do that sure because if i search then i am at the mercy of whatever you're being paid the most to promote 100 i am just i am letting my in my logic if you go to the department it's

the same thing you don't think they're going to advertise on the department level well no because on the department level i want filters that's or or i expect to find filters but i got filters i know but that's ridiculous a little bit why don't i get filters yeah like if if i just go to your category view the the all the first results are sponsored 100 like that lamp replacement thing is a sponsored post so it's right there you're seeing this ad based on the product's relevance to your search query no i am not sorta no i'm not this two-star lamp replacement is very relevant dude this is a dumpster fire yeah i can't even believe this well it's the it's the where even is the mute button it's the notification of uh i don't think i did that properly yeah well fine good job of of amazon and other various websites right like it's just getting worse but this isn't

sustainable go to try amazon so here hold on what's really what's really wild to me is if look okay you know the the category that i drilled down into just doesn't have the tvs in it or whatever i could see that but But no, it does. Because when I click on Smart TV, they're all here. They just didn't think that that was relevant to my interests.

I mean, what even is this stuff? Okay, an HDMI splitter, sure. But a Sega Genesis HDMI adapter? What are the odds, Amazon? What are the odds? Hey hey amazon.ca is actually better people recommended that and they're not wrong um wow so i i went i went to all and then i had to scroll down further i think uh shop by department electronics computer and office is this what i did yeah and then tv and home theater so there

was two more layers here so that's probably what that person was talking about and then i clicked on tv and home theater and it brought me here and then there was another layer where you just have to click on televisions which is fine because all these other things are related to what i've done so far so televisions and then boom i got a bunch of tvs let's see uh some people are saying that oh hold on hold on uh ship some people are saying that it might matter that it says ship to canada in the top so i'm changing it to why is it not i'm gonna go back to oh my god why is it not in the drop back to, Oh my God. Why is it not in the dropdown United States? Minor outlying islands. No.

Why? Is that what Canada is to you now? A minor outlying? I'm just, I'm trying to find, I'm trying to find ship to us in the drop down. It's not here and it's not here. Is there another,

have they changed the name to amerikistan or something like what where where the heck is america whatever i just i put in i put in the only zip code i know so 90210 uh here we go let's refresh the page nope sorry folks electronics you gotta put in a 2500 televisions and video products here we go yeah all right cool america's attic we are not no we're the hat come on on now. Yeah. Figure it out. Really nice hat. Warm. Yeah. A beaver hat, you might say. Beaver hat. Sold out of...

What are we supposed to be doing right now? What even is this show? The Hudson's Bay. Who knows? You know, it's amazing how much of Canada the Hudson's Bay Company owned. Oh, yeah. Like a couple hundred years ago. Yeah.

Like actually owned the country. And now they're like almost gone yeah kind of what a what a way to fall yeah what a what a what a story arc amazing canada actually has some genuinely very interesting history oh yeah yeah for sure like like actually yep and i'm not even just saying that because i'm also canadian but like it actually does yeah anyway it like literally was the fur trade for a while that was its only point in existing and that's why hudson's bay like owned it all it was it was super weird i don't know oh hey luke check this out what's up tv and video up

here oh hey now you got that canadian page now you click on televisions yeah no no no yeah no hold on hold on okay so what happened so from the home page if i go here and I go to shop by department see all electronics TV and video what the just happened alright at least I can find televisions now so that's good so i want to know how much a 55 inch

great 50 to 59 inches then fine i'll settle anyway we found the answer before it's about 250 bucks is what the kind of going rate for a basic 55 inch tv is in fact i think this might be the one that we settled on it is amazing oh no that's not it that's 50 inches it's pretty wild that you can get a nice 50 inch tv for 260 here it is this one tv prices are something that have not gone the road of graphics cards it seems no no they They somehow managed to keep getting cheaper. That's wild. They have, man, I've talked about this before,

but I actually got to experience it firsthand for a while. Firsthand for the first time. Because for the first time in my life, I went to a store and bought a TV. Not to make a video. You know, I've only ever done that once too. Just to have a TV so that I would have it. Yeah, me too.

I've only ever done that once. My grandparents had a pretty small TV. It was like 38 inches or 40 inches or something like that. And their vision is not what it was. And they do not have at their age they don't have the capability to go to a store and buy a tv at this point anymore so i was over there and they were talking about you know some of the some of the hassle with it and i was like tell you what uh merry christmas new tv sure um so we went down we went down to visit them uh last weekend and i was like oh i still

owe you your christmas present it's late january uh peace i'll be back and so i went to london drugs of all places because it was that is the thing they actually have a surprisingly solid electronics department they always surprise me they they carry samsung lg high sense oh wow sure um and sony yeah and so i was like okay well let's have a look um i don't i totally understand or actually no i don't understand how how enough people are buying makes no sense especially with shipping costs like lg and samsung tvs uh given how much more they caught like i understand why i understand why tcl and hisense are gaining so much ground in north america right now because it was literally half the price and even to my eye i was like yeah it looks good enough for me ma and people uh so so i

ended up with a high sense i know right like got rid of my tv buying virginity with high sense of all people um right i'll remember it forever though unforgettable moment so so anyway uh look again looking at does your dan sigh from behind the camera i always think about things that i want to say and then they're just absolutely not appropriate again looking at the pricing the difference between 55 inches and 65 inches is basically negligible so i was like okay yeah uh let's well let's get them a 65 inch tv let's get something nice and big so they can you know see national geographic or whatever it is that they watch figure skating i don't know cool yeah my grandma likes figure skating all right so so 65 inch tv very impressive so i took my i took my son with me on this errand

because he doesn't do enough errands and i was like you're gonna do an errand um let's go get a console we needed to get a new console table because we discovered you know we found the tv we wanted and realized it had the new style stand because it's cheaper for them to make with the two feet on the edges instead of the single thing that kind of supports it at the back so we had to go to ikea we had to get a little a new little console table so we got that threw it in the trunk uh we went back to learning drugs picked up the tv that we'd gotten the quote for they had put it aside for us dragged it out to the parking lot and went oh doesn't fit it's a good lesson on running errands why would i drive the taikan you were just trying to be

a dad who teaches his son things why did i take the taikan though that's that was it you were just trying to be a dad who teaches his son things why did i take the taikan though that's that was it you were trying to teach yeah but why did i take the taikan i don't know it's because i didn't think about it i didn't think we were gonna go out and buy a tv no because you were trying to teach him a lesson i'm trying to get you out here man come on i would have taken the minivan yeah um so the real reason i drove the taikan is because I like driving it and because it's electric. Yeah. I hate going to the gas station. Yeah. Like hate it. Yeah.

So for those wondering, for those Taycan drivers out there who have a Taycan, um, you cannot fit a 65 inch TV in the trunk. Unless in the rain, you unbox the TV in the parking lot, put it in with about this much clearance to either side, take all the accessories out, put them under it, drag the box back inside, say, hey, can you throw this in the compactor for me and then hope to whatever deity you believe in that that thing is not doa you could have um i've done stuff like this before yeah you could have plugged it in and

turned it on while you were there yeah i i didn't think of that that's fine that's amazing anywho this is actually this is actually not, that is a different lesson. Yeah. Maybe not the best one, but you get her done no matter what. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean that, that's definitely the lesson. Yeah. And, uh, me, mom and people now have, and it works at new TV.

It does work. Mission accomplished. Thank, thank the maker. Uh, high sense in this case. Yeah. Yeah.

Good job. I've actually had to do that before the last time was buying sorry sort of in floatplane chat i can't got him but it could in this case so it is still a taikan so a 65 inch tv does fit in a taikan no that's not the lesson i actually take away i actually have had to do this before and it was way worse uh when we moved so this is the second time you've moved a tv with the no no it wasn't a tv okay yeah no the first time i've had to do no i mean i mean unpack something in a parking lot ah the first time was way worse it was at costco which should give you some idea where I'm going with this, and it was a king sized bed frame. For some reason, because I don't believe in planning.

I already had a bunch of stuff in the back of the van. Nice. Good. So I had to completely dismantle, and at Costco I was, I don't know, I was afraid to even ask them to take the packaging for me so i basically tetris the crap out of this thing putting in the pieces every way that i could

trying to use the packaging to keep it from like to keep the pieces from destroying and scratching each other and at the end of it i was able to shove the trunk latched. Completely full. Completely solid. Yeah. So plan ahead. You won't. Well, it's like what?

I'm going to pay for delivery? Come on. Oh, man. And like that bed frame, it was wrapped in that you know that really really thin foam wrap so it was wrapped in that it was a windy day and it's like blowing all over the place and stuff i was in the loading zone in front of the store so people were like watching me do this i'm pretty sure at least one person walked by and was like, Hey Linus. Cause like, it's not like I'm anonymous. Oh my goodness.

That's fantastic. Won't pay $10 for delivery. So I'll spend two hours packing it. But yeah, that's two hours that he wasn't working. Yeah. Delivery for $10. I can't get Uber Eats delivered for $10. Nevermind a TV.

What are you talking about? Yeah. $10. Yeah. What's that line that Bill Gates, do a backflip bill gate the bill gates character on the simpsons says you don't get rich by writing a lot of checks or something like that yeah oh man that's such a great scene when his goons come in and just start like trashing homer's living room i don't know if i've seen he created like a website right yeah something like homer.com with like all the junk on it and the ads yeah and he was just he

was just bandwagoning on the dot com get them boys yeah and so bill gates rolls up and is like we'd like to acquire your company and it turns out acquire just means like wreck the joint because it was like a home server that was basically just his computer and they just destroy it with baseball bats i wish the internet worked more like that your website is cancer i'm just gonna destroy it we're supposed to explain merch messages so the way to interact with the show is to leave a merch message don't do super chat don't do a twitch bit it's not like twitch needs more money actually they probably kind of do we'll talk about that later actually why don't we yeah why don't why

don't we expand that thing we were doing before the show into a bit of a more of a topic twitch and the no good very bad week um pokemon left yeah yeah so that's that's interesting hey who um merch messages all you got to do is head to lttstore.com and put something in your cart and you will see a box for merch messages. Once you complete your order, it'll go to our producer, Dan. There he is.

Who will either forward it to the appropriate party, reply to it himself, or curate it for me and Luke to respond to. We've got a couple of merch announcements before we do a couple of merch messages to show you guys kind of how it works first up we have a new newsletter this week going through the minor backpack oh here it is so make sure you are signed up for the newsletter because we are trying to provide some really cool behind the scenes content tatiana actually hosted a video over on floatplane where she went through that backpack that had been

used in a coal mine and contrasted it with a brand new one this was in the lead up to the discovery that the bottom panel was not actually doubled so there's some really cool learnables from all of this from our materials expert uh what else do we have as an update for the merch team um okay i am a little confused by this one oh okay we have a 3d down jacket promo right now i'm just gonna have to go to the store to make sure that this is working but as winter reaches sort of the end of winter this is my favorite jacket ever uh jackets here we go if you order the 3d down jacket which is a relatively light jacket but very warm for how thin it is good reviews and there you go you get free shipping for your entire order oh so if you live somewhere where shipping is expensive and there was some stuff that you were planning to pick up anyway then maybe pick up a 3d down jacket at what will amount to a pretty sizable discount so there you go you just gotta click that box then you fill out this thing and

it's pretty cool and then you go ahead and check out your order. The last thing we have going on on the store this week is precision screwdriver notification signups. There's going to be a couple of reasons that you're going to want to sign up for the precision screwdriver notification. So that's right here on the homepage where work meets play because it's, oh, that's, that's cute with a twist because it's got a really nice hybrid ceramic bearing in the top, so it'll spin for like a minute if you just kind of lightly give it a little spin. Anyway, there's two reasons you're going to want to sign up.

First is you'll be the first to know when you can buy it, and second is you will be in the pool to potentially get a chance to be one of the first 100 for that first batch of Top of Production samples. And then after that, everyone else is going to have to wait for mass production. So you could end up with it much, much earlier than anyone else. All right, Dan, do you want to hit us with a couple of merch messages? Yeah, I've got some here for you. Hi, LLD. What do you think about Pal World?

Luke, how do you feel about regionals in Pokemon Go? Do you even do Pokemon Go, Luke? I do. Yeah, he's a Pokemon Go guy. I didn't know that. Awesome. I disagree with pretty much all of the things that the Pokemon Go community seems to care about

because I play it for wildly different reasons than I think most people do. So I don't care at all about region regionals in pokemon go i don't even care slightly yeah for you it's just more of a like touch grass thing right yeah yeah so like whenever there's some feature that's like the whole point of pokemon go am i missing something oh oh oh okay i would can i just say that i would like if I'm going to be cancelled I would like for it to be for something other than Pokemon Go

this is the only time I've actually feared for my job you're poking the hornet's nest here that reaction when he's like oh we're here now let me address the community really quick before we go further not that I'm not going to go further, but just...

Control Z, Control Z. You're going to use those mute buttons and that would be the time loop. Oh man, that was really funny. I'd like, if I'm going to get cancelled, can it at least be for something cool? You know, like... Yeah, I don't know. Like graffiti. I don't know!

People would absolutely, yeah, hate all my takes on pokemon go and that's fine and they can just be mad about things and that's okay but yeah i don't really care about regionals if a regional happens can you explain what a regional is for those of us who don't pokemon go got it certain pokemon are only available to be caught in certain areas of the world right i don't need them right i don't care right and now if i happen to be there and i get one right neat and then for anyone in that region i guess it's like if you want it that bad then you can pokemon come rather than go yeah come get it yeah totally yeah totally probably a different game it also incentivizes like i wouldn't be surprised if it exists though probably exists um yeah what is it rule something something yeah um

oh there's so many jokes there but i'm just gonna leave it where it is um but like when i was in japan uh there's a apac regional which is far-fetched so i caught a bunch of them yeah when i came back i've just been giving them to people when i'm back so you don't even have to go get it yourself right if someone you know or someone in the pokemon community around you which it's very likely one of them will travel at some point happens to go somewhere and gets a bunch of them you can just trade them something when they come back and then you get it like it just i don't know who cares why do you care but i i've been i mean it's literally the tagline of the entire franchise you gotta catch them all okay okay i just no but this is a very good point

i'm just saying i know it is i've been mulling it is thank you I make very good points once one time we both know I'm never going to make this and that's fine but I've been enjoying the mental idea I've been mulling on this video idea of we all suck at playing video games and my whole point

is that we're doing it wrong yeah we're never making that video just cause the tag no i'm not saying blame the community video rarely goes over well yeah yeah but just because the tagline has got to catch them all does not mean that you've got to catch them all like you should find a way that you have fun in a game and then do that right but i mean let's look at the pokemon company's entire raison d'etre like why do they create new pokemon so that you won't have them all like they know that this is a compulsive and behavior for people

that they need to have them all and they and they feed that they do it on purpose for sure they not only do you have to have them all you have to have them all in this game then you have to have them all in cards oh by the way did i mention there are shiny cards you need to have them all in that form don't forget you need digital you need digital cards for the digital game so you can play it online don't forget about all the collectibles well you're gonna have to have all of those too i mean the whole thing is just designed to exploit people who just compulsively need to collect things right to a certain degree you should want that because that means there's more content. But you just got to not be obsessive about the content.

Oh, my God. Listen to this guy. You just got to not be obsessive. Do you have any idea who you're talking to? I don't know. These are people who are so into computers that they are now. Hold on one second. There's this thing called shadow.

They are an hour and 23 minutes into this podcast about nothing what have we even talked about yeah but we're second monitor you're not obsessed hold on we're second let's find out what monitor we're on i'm putting up a poll you got to include third as well you're on my fourth fourth yeah but we got we got to stop it somewhere i do need i do need more we still have to talk about that oh my goodness we'll get you one of those 55 inch tvs and just divide it up no that doesn't work i did that at home and it's terrible for productivity i miss multiple monitors yeah multiple monitors are great okay i'm doing a two minute poll here we go all right luke carry

on okay so this is gonna be nothing to you but there's a there's a thing in the game called shadow raids and in just leaves well it's nothing to me i was gonna get a snack that works i can just talk to them no i'm no i'm kidding i'm actually kidding um so over the pandemic i i quit playing over the pandemic because the reason i would play it was to go outside but um over the pandemic they added something called a remote raid pass yes you wanted to do a raid, you could buy, because I don't think there was any opportunity to get them for free. Maybe there was at some point.

There isn't now. You could buy a remote raid pass. Sure, but, sorry, can I interrupt for a second? What if I wanted to catch something other than a bug type? Well, raid wouldn't be very effective against a bear. Oh, my God! Actually, I have to applaud you for that one. It's very good.

I wasn't sure where you were going. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. Raid is a brand of insecticide here in North America if it doesn't exist elsewhere. Yeah, yeah. Raid is usually for more rare types of Pokemon. I think the most commonly done one

by at least groups of people would be legendary raids, which are the harder ones. They introduced these remote raid passes so you wouldn't have to go outside in order to raid a cool idea we're actually primarily on primary monitors just just saying wow 45 that's the float plane people though yeah so what they said they all use firefox why don't you make this why don't you make this point that you are apparently going to make it okay eventually okay um um oh i just poked that hive um can you not antagonize our most loyal diehard community members please so there's there's these things called remote

raid passes really cool idea during the pandemic they still exist whatever sounds good people are really pissed that you can't do more of them per day right raids remote raids remote raids you can do as many local raids as you want oh okay but you have to actually get off your chair yeah and go there um i heard a lot of them are like churches and stuff now or something like a lot of locations or gyms gyms yeah like churches have embraced like the whole pokemon gym thing so that people will go to them sure anyway that's a whole probably separate conversation yeah anyway um i doubt it works to be honest because people show up for like a few minutes and leave they don't really anyways whatever um but shadow raids you which have a certain type of pokemon don't worry about it doesn't matter you can't remote raid into them and shadow raids shadow legendaries so like a

shadow zapdos is only going to show up on the weekend uh they can't see it they have to move you and i luke created a poll called i did not dan did this dan why they've kept it perfectly neutral his i respect that a lot good job guys that's actually amazing it's 50 50 his poll here is is everyone on float playing a liar yes yes luke had uh luke had the polls closed uh that was for him more than anything. So sorry about that. That's where I find that amazingly entertaining that it's 50-50. Good job, Flowplane. That's impressive. I'm genuinely impressed.

You guys are great. These shadow legendary raids, they only happen on weekends. You can't remote raid pass into them. Got it. That has created this emergent behavior where I will try to organize with people to meet up on the weekend yeah and go walk around and do these rates so you're so you imagine that's really cool so you're the true scotsman that's fantastic but no one else is a true scott exactly what i want and people are mad because they want to be able to remote raid pass into shadow raids and i'm like actually i would rather if we couldn't because now if people want this thing if people are gonna go catch them all then they're gonna have to come out for a walk right okay so like i have differing opinions to

the majority of the community which is fine they can want to play the game however they want to play the game that's no problem but i play pokemon go for a reason that i don't think most people do right i i i play it because like this weekend there's a thing going on and i'm probably going to walk like 15 plus kilometers in a day and that's great because getting myself to do that without a gamified motivation is harder but now i'm like excited to go walk a crazy amount of kilometers some people are just going to put a bunch of lures down and sit on their butt for the entire event and that will be very effective but i don't care well they can just be kind of like the npcs and in that region yeah like the yeah the trainers that are just like walking back

and forth between two points and they're like i like bug in the grass do you want to battle that would be fantastic um if you don't move enough you should turn into an npc and when people encounter you you should have to battle or something is that is that a thing is that a mechanic they have because if not they totally should pretty sweet like if you don't move you're just like you're one of the people on like route it puts like a vision cone in front of you like anyone that walks in front it challenges them to battle um someone said i agree but as a wheelchair user there needs to be a wheelchair mode is wouldn't you just wheelchair around well depends not everywhere is wheelchair accessible like man it's it is that's fair where i go to every time i do one of these is very

wheelchair accessible i had a um i had a pretty bad knee injury a number of years but i understand not everywhere such that like walking was actually really hard and it was shocking like how hard it is to get around anywhere and i was still on my feet it's crazy um and the thing is that like as someone who's working on a building right now if you guys missed it we uploaded a video earlier this week outlining the plans for the badminton center slash land gaming center as someone who's working on a building right now um i i recognize a lot of the really good things that are being done in the building code to make things more accessible you have to have handy accessible spots you have to have x percentage of handy accessible washroom stalls and sinks and all of that kind of stuff um so you're like your counters have to be such that

you can you can roll up to them and use them all that's really good but what's interesting is that building code just straight up doesn't apply to anything that was already built. And 98% of everything, actually, no, 100% of everything is already built like today. You know, there will be things that exist that will become that they have been built. But my point is just that the overwhelming majority of things were built before that and the planning was terrible. So yeah, yeah, that's a that's totally a fair that's totally a fair point and that's something that you know Niantic should

address but I also don't think that that invalidates Luke's point that a lot of people are able-bodied and just don't want to go out I would love if there was solutions for that type of stuff I'm not against solutions for that type of stuff. I think there's ways to accomplish that. Like maybe make it that you can invite a maximum amount of people to remote rates per day. And you have to be a certain level of friends with them because like there's a,

there's a, if you hadn't stolen my phone, I forgot about that until now. I knew you would. There's a, there's a, there's multiple apps there's a ton of different apps that you can use uh to host uh which i'll do sometimes or or to to remote raid in to other people's things so the community element is just fully digital now um

i don't know i i i understand the countering argument because you can play the game more and honestly probably enjoy it more and played at a more competitive level and all these other types of things and be much more immersed and in the pokemon go experience if uh you're able to remote raid more and you're able to catch more things from your house like if your catch radius is bigger so you can get more things from your house sure all this type of stuff i get that but the reason why i want to play the game personally on a personal level is because it gets me outside and moving and more active and and in the sun and all that type of stuff um my motivation is less about pokemon it's more about personal health and fitness and well-being and stuff like that so i like the idea that i don't have to do those things alone

and i have genuinely received the response i've been like oh i want to go do this thing like let's go to whatever park and walk around and try to do as much as we can i have genuinely received the response of like i'm probably just going to hang out at home i'll remote rate it and it's like oh that sucks i don't know but to each their own right did we just spend half an hour on the first of the two merch messages we're supposed to do right you didn't even answer the full question oh what was the question what was the question also what do you think of how world oh i haven't played i've played it um i hope it's a major wake-up call the pokemon and that's honestly pretty much my only feeling about it yeah it's the best pokemon game that has released in many years it makes uh what was it called legend of arceus or something

what was that game i don't even know whatever it was even called because it didn't matter at all uh it makes that game look like a joke yeah um and hopefully game freak wakes up and does something with that ip because it's incredibly frustrating as like a person who does like pokemon that the pokemon game's like i don't know yeah and it's not like nintendo is i mean nintendo nintendo can be really stuffy and really kind of set in their ways but they can also be kind of edgy and unique and fun and so yeah i don't see why they couldn't do something a little more creative with the pokemon ip i mean you look at like a super mario rpg or look at zelda yeah sure yeah yeah zelda's been changing evolving improving yeah how ironic that pokemon wouldn't evolve

yeah for real though we should do a a super chat really quick here someone didn't get the memo and sent a 200 super chat that is a perfect way for me to highlight why we don't do super chats and why we moved away from using this dashboard entirely. Check this out. Hey, love the channel. Columbus, Ohio is getting new Intel chip factory. Yeah, that's super cool. It's kind of crazy that semiconductor manufacturing is like coming back to the States. Who'd have thunk it?

Anywho, look at this. I've had people call me out on this and say, no, Linus lied. The dashboard is perfect. No, Linus didn't lie. The dashboard is not perfect. That message, okay, A, I can't apparently unselect it.

Anywho, is not here. It's not in- What happens if you refresh? The viewer activity. No, it's not here. Check it out. Not there. not there and eventually things do fall off yeah that will go away that's only still there because it's such a big donation that's the bug that made us develop merch messages in the first place

how many years ago was that two three somewhere around there yeah it's been a while it's still not fixed how is that even possible like tell me something how complicated is the database that needs to store these text inputs these text entries like is this is this more complicated than an excel sheet help me out here well yeah no no but on youtube scale yada yada yada yada but it shouldn't be a big deal it has to store a username an amount a timestamp and a flipping it should not be a big deal for youtube to do it it doesn't even have to store image anything like it's are you kidding me so anyway that's why and as for why i don't turn them off if people want badly enough to do things

wrong then i say power to them yeah all right dan hit us with another merch message sure hi dan luke and linus too i guess what industry have you been most surprised by the amount or kinds of technology that they use man just about just about i think i'm more surprised by the opposite oh ones that don't use technology or or that like oh they're still running the same computer with serial cables from the like early 90s i remember finding out in like 2010 or something like that that one of our competitors at ncix still used fax to place pos i'm just like what japan just email them like obviously i don't know if this is in the doc right now but japan is dealing with like the fact that a bunch of businesses are still sending the government like floppy disks yeah apparently they just changed the legislation that forced that

so maybe they can finally move past the floppy diskette after all these years all these decades i will say being in japan a lot of the more tactile things still being around is kind of nice more things tend to have physical buttons um more things tend to have moving moving physical components involved that don't seem like they're going to break often did i ever tell the story actually like pretty cool about getting the insurance and registration taken care of for my car oh yeah and how like not only did they require fax like like uh like like signed fax uh like a signed fax but they actually required the original form

for like the business registration for the dealer to be mailed to the insurance broker in order to register the car because some ICBC is our insurance provider in BC. They have a monopoly because that's legal for some reason. If anyone was looking for a platform to get elected on in BC, it would be to abolish ICBC's

monopoly and then instant you're elected, just in case anyone's wondering. Anyway, the point is, yeah, the fact that even a fax wasn't considered good enough. How is anything more than an email required? I just am sort of baffled by that. And then, yeah, the fact that things have to be physically present for signatures always blows me away. Hey, the superb owl is coming up really soon. Sports tech is really cool. Sports tech is really cool, especially in the NFL, actually.

Yeah. I mean, have you watched an NHL game recently? Hockey game? No. I heard we're doing well but no remember how bad those digitally superimposed uh boards now they're really good i have seen that i have seen that they like move and stuff and looks really good yeah yeah um but but genuinely uh if you're if you're into tech at all even if you hate sports if you look into the tech that the nfl uses um for for nfl games it's it's really pretty wild

that is actually an extremely tech forward uh organization yep yeah you wouldn't know it from all the nfl uh co-branded merchandise we did that video where we bought sports tech it's the cheapest cheapest absolutely of aliexpress garbage with a silkscreen logo on it was amazing yeah but when it comes to their games and like how they do reffing and all this other kind of stuff really impressive yeah hawkeye is super cool i might have some news about hawkeye for you oh okay well here why don't i first explain what hawkeye is it's what they use for tennis badminton oh yeah yeah to to track the projectile and i didn't realize this but it's not actually that the camera array is seeing where the ball landed or where the shuttle landed it's that it is

calculating based on the initial trajectory where it will go so hawkeye might not actually always be right because this is less true of a tennis ball probably where you could do a like a nasa style to compute thing where you have Hawkeye, try to figure it out. And you have something that watches it and tries to figure it out. I think they do have that. Okay. But it has to make a decision and it is the final call.

Hawkeye is. Yeah. If cause Hawkeye only comes out at least in badminton. I don't know how it works in tennis. In badminton Hawkeye only comes out in the event of a challenge so they have uh erob 18 full plane chat i don't necessarily know how true this is but i've worked with hawkeye at a grand slam tennis tournament it's not 100 yeah they use a lot of cameras i i know they use a lot of cameras uh it's like interesting in the dozens if i recall correctly like it's a flipping ton of them

uh but aside from the cameras my understanding and hey feel free to correct me my understanding is that the cameras are more about feeding data into the computational engine that decides where it landed because the the point of contact is so much smaller than the actual projectile. Think about it. For a tennis ball, only the part that mushes touched the court. And if the edge of the ball that doesn't mush onto the ground is over the line, well, that doesn't count. So no camera, unless it was positioned at ground level, is going to actually see how much that ball compressed, or in the case of a shuttle,

how much the cork compressed as it hit the ground. So they cannot see where it landed. They just have to have a pretty good idea of where it landed. And in tennis, I could see this being less of a problem. But in badminton, the shuttle is fragile. So if you knock a feather off of it with a with a really powerful smash or something like that its trajectory may not be as anticipated um man sports projectiles are a fun rabbit hole oh yeah have you ever watched a baseball get made yeah they apparently like tried to cost them down and make it make it like machine sewn or something and they were like no

this doesn't work so they are hand sewn like every single baseball that the players are just just like huck it to the fans which they should that's a part of the experience of the ball game. It's like handcrafted. What? What's that thing about like... Badminton shuttles too. Man, badminton shuttle manufacturing is wild. The fact that they only cost like about $1.50 wholesale US is mind-blowing to me. Yeah, baseball rubbing mud. Anyway, Dan, tell us about Hawkeye.

Yeah, so we had some really good feedback after the Badminton Center video came out, and some people have been recommending a bunch of equipment, especially for the audio, like something like Q-SYS came up a lot. And so I did some digging with Matt, and apparently Q-SYS has a lot of and so i did some digging with matt and apparently qsys has a lot of partnerships with intel and dell and then also with sony and so apparently sony also works intensely with hawkeye and we may this is sounding really expensive we may be able to get a hawkeye system what

maybe we'll see there might be there might be some major partnership stuff but we'll we'll have to see how much time i don't know but like full sony full sony badminton center filled out um build out um but if you could have if you could have a hawkeye system uh okay like just it would be installed and it would be permanent it would be yours generally you rent them just for just for people that's my understanding anyway just for people in the audience we do a hawkeye video and then i mean we do a hawkeye video we explain the system i am we do a full build out not only it is so cool that would be a sick video it would be an incredible video and then you know we put that

in with the qsys system because they've got some really amazing they're all based on like dell servers what is qsys qsys is sort of like the same audio management system that we're planning to put in okay like dante yeah but it works with dante like there's a controller box um and all of them are kind of in the same kind of integration thing they've got okay uh and then they're also partnered with sony so you know how we're going to have our tvs all over the lobby yeah yeah so qsys actually has a partnership with sony because the sony like professional display tvs uh-huh have a qsys integration so all of the media and everything can be controlled under the same banner in the same system okay so we'd really need to change like a lot of stuff well we'll see but i was it might be worth it i was just planning to buy cheap tcls and then replace them when they burn out yeah like that was my and put usb sticks in

them with a looping video like that was actually the plan it was minimum viable product well i mean all of it all of it was designed under minimum viable product except the facility could easily accommodate what dan's talking about so we yeah yeah yeah sorry so so basically what we did so just to give you guys a bit more context here is we built amazing bones yeah and then we planned to put the cheapest possible flesh on them yeah with the idea being that in the future we would you could upgrade or you could replace we are decked the fuck out when it comes to networking and power because that's how we roll those things are annoying to run once you hopefully don't think about it again but knowing that technology only gets cheaper

unless it's a gpu um we had planned to just go minute bare minimum for the initial implementation and then to kind of see how it might need but if we i mean look i'm i'm like i need to take my sweater off excited if we could have a hawkeye i mean yeah this is kind of what we're working on because after that video came out just everybody started jumping on me for for that audio setup but like it would just hurt but of course right minimal viable product that's what we need to have can you come and pick up can you pick up our car please dan's plan made complete sense given the bounds that we gave him to be very clear like we could have told him you can spend as much money as you want he could have come up with a different

system my client gave me exacting specifications for that yeah right so leave dan alone but but looking into qsys like some stuff some good stuff did come out of this and like because we have people with intel and i think matt's already reached out to a couple of them because all of them like qsys has a heart and the head is intel and there's dell as well and god all of them know what we're doing and they know qsys and then this is hilarious and then sony and then also hawkeye we need to release preemptive videos for every future project this is why we never build anything reasonable because the second we say that's our plan either the community or our industry partners

jumps on us they're like what what are you doing that could be eight percent better so for for for me right so the system i designed for your for your minimal viable product cheapest that we can get going yeah it can do like like, I don't know, maybe 16 channels or something like that. That seems fine. The problem is that the Q-SYS things that have the Dell logo on the front of them that run on the Intel servers

are designed for airports. So they have 256 independent channels of Danteante and like a thousand different individual paging zones um and so uh some people were asking like so how many paging stones do you need i'm like well the spec got changed so it's one because we didn't we didn't want to buy a second microphone so we're just gonna do one okay well i need i need an airport i know but you're making me sound like such a cheap head no that was reasonable it was okay all of it is extremely reasonable should we tell you so reasonable stand should we tell them what my plan sure sure okay so i'm known as the cheap guy. So I threw my plan into the ring and it got upgraded because my plan was rough.

If you want to know what my plan was. Not a 610, a 5300. It was like, I don't remember fully, but it was like Raspberry Pis connected to speakers and they're all logged into Discord. Oh, I've done a full house install. I've done a house install like that. You would just move your talking thing around in Discord and then speak into a mic. It was really cheap. to jim channel it was very cheap and then so we went from my garbage solution that

would cost practically nothing yeah and we looked at because there was conversations early on we looked at traditional paging systems as well there was there's months of discussion right oh yeah so we we went we went way above we went way below and then we found the pretty reasonable spot in the middle and now we have offers that might result in it being way above again in a facility that we plan to have a grand total of about two people on staff at any given time we're gonna have to have a six-person IT team. So this is the problem. I mean, that's why I went with that system initially, because that was one of your requirements.

It just has to work with no training and be really simple, right? I love that. Look at him. He's freaking out. What if you could keep it? What if you could keep it, Linus? What if you had a hotbed system at all times? I mean, you might have to put a Sony sticker on something. Badminton Center in Canada.

They also do Florida ceiling nano LED walls that are all also controlled. It's digital signage, right? Why not? No, those are like millions of dollars for an install. You could put a Sony banner on the outside. I don't even want to.

The Sony Linus Badminton Smash Sony Champ don't even i don't even want to sony linus badminton smash sony champs i don't even want to owe them for badminton players my soul who can't read good and want to play badminton at that price no no that would not be reasonable but no full hawkeye video would be actually incredible because i don't think there's been any media on it like really at all there's a little bit but there's it's kind of um it's pretty dry like kind of explainer type stuff and i don't think that i've seen anyone who's like an independent media who has gotten a chance to benchmark it like i would be really interested to put hawkeye up against yeah real eye and like an array of like you know 25 cameras around a spot oh how good is how good is hawkeye i mean

this is the kind of thing that they're probably looking at going we're not gonna we're not gonna do that are we sick though and then that's that would be really interesting to me and then of course that also means that you know the the cameras that are going to be recording the uh the courts they would probably also be sony oh well that's good we have found that sony one we really liked the only reason i was going to go panasonic was because it was cheaper well they're also doing like uh someZ cameras, PTZ cameras. Yeah. Pan, tilt, zoom for those not familiar. So they are remotely controlled. Yeah. And a lot of it is in like maybe tracking and stuff as well.

But I don't think those are going to be super necessary. But, you know, huge buildup. Very exciting. Yeah. One bit of a downer. I saw one comment where someone was like, hey, I work with BWF, which is the badminton world federation or whatever. Um, one of the, one of the big mistakes we see a lot of centers making is, is not investing properly in the lighting and the, uh, and certain other elements to make it a BWF standard. So we'd love to work with you guys to make it so you could like host international tournaments and stuff um i don't think that's feasible as much as i appreciate the outreach um because a we don't have any kind of um we don't have any kind of spectator capabilities really like you could be up in the in the lounge but we don't have parking to

accommodate if you know hundreds or thousands of people wanted to watch or whatever we could handle video but you know part of a sporting event is is the crowd right at least to to a degree yeah we do have a crowd section though they can all be on treadmills yeah exactly and then number two is that we don't actually have a high enough ceiling. Oh, really? Yeah. So I'm trying to find it right now. But yeah, here it is. According to the minimum ceiling height for a badminton court at Olympic Games,

Youth Olympic Games, grade one, grade two, and badminton BWF level is 39 feet. Ours are, I want to say, 32. Yeah, I think they're 32 or 34. I can't remember exactly, which is for even a high-level recreational player, more than fine but those professional players man do they ever hit hard and there are certain instances i actually saw i saw so many people in the comments on that video who just they don't know anything about badminton and i get it in north america we most people know absolutely nothing about the sport i didn't and one of the one of the big comments that i saw from people is what do you need all that vertical height for for badminton

well let me tell you uh high level players if their opponent plays a really tight shot over the net where they're basically just coming in like this and just kind of popping it up so the shuttle tumbles and it just barely it just barely rolls over the net. What they're going to do to counter that is they're going to come up and they're going to hit it as high as humanly possible, way, way up and toward the back of the court. And the more ceiling height you have, the more travel they can get toward the back of the court. And that's really important because the closer it is to the front, the more likely it is that they are going to be eating that shuttle when their opponent smashes it down at them.

So having it really, really having the ceilings really high is actually incredibly important. So we're not going to be able to host like a BWF sanctioned tournament or anything like that. That's not in our future. There's that's how high the ceiling is. There's absolutely nothing we can do to change that. It'll be a quality facility.

It'll have some of the highest ceilings in the lower mainland, but no BWF tournaments for us. Hawkeye would be cool though. Hawkeye would be sick. Just for any tournament. Even if it was just a video. Yeah. Yeah.

Even if we had to tear it out, that's fine. I'd be down. Yep. Yep. Uh, you got one video. Yeah. Yeah, even if we had to tear it out, that's fine. I'd be down. Yep. Yep. You got one more. No, I'm just... It's sponsors.

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Why do we even bother? They don't talk about them anyway. This is the worst it has ever been. I'd be upset.'t be let's do a few topics let's do some topics sure please gm sure let's talk about gm general motors yeah they were bound to do something right eventually you know broken broken clock is right at least twice a day it's like it's like they got 10 on a scantron but they figured it out at the end. General Motors has announced that they will be bringing back their line of plug-in hybrid EVs, which they retired back in 2019

at the worst possible time with the end of the Chevy Volt. The company has been under significant pressure from dealerships who have been struggling both to meet consumer demand for hybrids and to sell battery only evs

in the quantity that's required by their carbon reduction quotas how many times have i said the volt was an amazing car it was just ahead of its time and if if they their problem was the lack of demand so their dealers have apparently figured it out they could have sold man they could have sold this thing it's such a cool car yeah you only have to burn gas if you're going plug-in hybrid just makes so much sense they're awesome most people and they just couldn't figure out how to sell it like man i'd read anytime i want to just be angry i'll go and read like chevy chevy volt message board messages and stuff people be like yeah i worked at a dealership this guy brings his car in and uh he brings it in for a trade-in and i'm like oh yeah the the like lifetime fuel economy

is really high he's like yeah i never plugged it in like not once not once. What the f*** are you doing? You could do your daily commute on battery, and then anytime you need to go far, you just put gas in it. It's the best of both worlds. You don't have to strip mine into the entire country to get all the lithium, because they just have small batteries, and you don't have to just, like, put gas in every week, because you just really like consuming gas!

Because the vast majority of most people's driving is a extremely predictable and b not super long range but you want your car to be able to do that sometimes so you don't have that anxiety solution is enormous batteries yeah and they're not so heavy because they don't have gigantic batteries so they actually end up being crazy fuel efficient and i get it they were pretty expensive to produce but they managed to discontinue it right before car prices went like this in general anywho other manufacturers also seem to be jumping on the plug-in hybrid electric vehicle bandwagon as of now there are 33 different phev models available in the u.s six different automakers have three 33 different phev models available in the u.s six different automakers have three or more phev models available and even lamborghini launched a

plug-in hybrid in 2023 though they don't plan to introduce an ev until 2028 our discussion question here is was ev adoption pushed too hard and did elon musk bamboozle all of us when really we should have switched to hydrogen and called it a century i mean i'm not going to try to speak to the whole hydrogen fuel cell thing i got to be honest with you guys it's not a technology that i understand well enough yeah to comment on all the infrastructure challenges that would have been involved in that but what i will say is that for most people at the time of the introduction of the model s when the chevy volt was still in its early days like the first gen chevy volt kind of sucked um and that's the

reason that i didn't buy a prius prime back when i bought my second hand chevy volt was because the range wasn't good enough it was like 30 miles or something like that it's not enough the second gen volt though could do think, something like 55. I only know it in kilometers. It'll go anywhere from 60, 70 to 100 kilometers, depending on the weather. And once that thing launched, for most people, I think it made more sense than a full electric vehicle. Yeah, it was pretty expensive up front. And I could see a lot of people looking at it going, oh, well, I might as well just go full EV.

But that's the thing. Depending on your usage, you could basically go full EV. I did well over 80% of my driving in that car on battery. And then anytime I needed to go really far, I could. Yeah. I know, the sex appeal not much i get it but you can make plug-in hybrid cars that have a lot you could you just they just didn't yeah actually i i think the volt was an okay looking car i think it was fine i think it could have been i think there could have been things about it it had notable family car energy oh yeah um

but i i don't think it was bad at all definite dad energy yeah the 2024 prius um people have been like drooling over this thing and it finally has decent range um and it's just chevy is not there to participate in a market that they practically invented it's just sorry gm so chevy the sub brand of gm chevy volt general motors it's just mind-blowing to me how at every possible turn gm can get electrification just 180 degrees from correct degrees from correct yeah it's kind of frustrating yeah cough ev1 says uh syphilis in floatplane chat a hundred percent yeah new priest prime looks pretty nice actually um what's the what's the range on this thing though blah blah blah blah blah blah and that's oh man see this is the other thing that people don't realize about these plug-in hybrids is that not only do you drive

on pure electric a lot of the time but when you are burning gas they are just wildly efficient yeah 4.44.6 city highway like what yeah that's wild that's awesome uh specifications here we go okay show me my show me my all battery range though where are we at here horsepower kilowatts okay what is this measure is horsepower a metric uh sorry anyway hold on one sec like what what are you what are you even talking about okay hold on why is. Like what, what are you, what are you even talking about? Okay. Hold on. Why is this dimensions? Why is horsepower a dimension? That's actually really weird. I don't know, man. I just,

well, that's odd. Stuff happens. You know, I just, I've decided to be less judgy. Okay, I don't know. Maybe someone knows. That 4.4 is liters per 100 kilometers. Just want to clarify that. I'm on the Canadian site. Kilowatts are metrics in engine power.

You know, I know, but how are horsepower and kilowatts the same? Are they? Are they, though? Kilowatts versus horsepower? There's no way that a horsepower is exactly 1,000 watts. I don't believe that. A power level of one horsepower is approximately equivalent to 746 watts, or 0.746 kilowatts okay and there's the mechanical and hydraulic horsepower

i don't even care anymore to convert from horsepower to watts simply multiply by 746 no i'm over it to convert from watts to horsepower modify by uh multiply sorry by 0.00134 yeah so anyway um good job toyota yeah missing an absolutely critical spec from the page altogether how far it can go on battery and then also um horsepower is a dimension yeah sure yeah uh what else are we talking about today we're talking about today oh is it time yeah let's do it all right um i i'm it's i've just been hearing you talk about this forever so no apparently turned off well dan's supposed to do it right no no i no no i got this i just i think i just need i probably went to sleep it's a sleeping itty bitty apple okay so one thing i'm not going to be able to show you guys,

or rather I could, but I don't feel like going through the entire initialization process for this thing, but it is shockingly difficult to sign up for Apple arcade without an iPhone. Make sure you don't blast your credit card, by the way. Uh, yeah,

yeah. That should be fine. Okay. What just happened? Okay, sure. That makes sense. Um,

so I have already, the, the issue is that getting your apple id signed in on this thing pretty much requires an iphone uh it was it was it was a real pain in the butt oh i hate this touch sensitive remote i always accidentally click it i feel like watching my grandparents operate anything technological okay so oh oh oh handyman's bringing a good point make sure it's updated are there any updates that this device i don't know but it looks like it says i can cancel anytime so it looks like

they've either changed it um so it should be under subscriptions i guess um no i forget i forget where it's supposed to be you leaked your name yeah that's fine uh blah blah blah blah blah blah uh apps maybe i can't remember there's definitely there's definitely somewhere it's supposed to be uh yeah that's a game that I've played. Uh, system. Okay, well, it was not easy to find. No, seriously, though, where is it supposed to be? No, maybe it is still hiding.

Uh, okay, well, going into the Apple Arcade app is not the solution. There's no, you just scroll. There's no unsubscribe in here. Dan, do you mind moving the topics piece of paper? Oh yeah, let's go to account. Let's go to account. Yeah, general account, I think.

Or you're supposed to click your username, some people in Flipboard chat are saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it's supposed to be in here somewhere because I Googled it and I did manage to find it at some point um like find where it was supposed to be here we go here we go subscriptions yeah that's what i would do okay what the actual f**k can you just sign in manually i have already signed in on this device to change the settings sign in yeah that sounds like a very normal apple

thing though um because they always make you re-sign in or re-pin into like everything when you have an iphone unsubscribing from something when i am signed in should be one click exactly one click now hold on i don't think that's true for like anywhere because they ask you to confirm okay oh my god uh let me see if i can find this Now, hold on. I don't think that's true for like anywhere because they ask you to confirm. Okay. Oh my God. Let me see if I can find this. I actually don't know my iTunes password right now. And I think the only way for me to see the screen is for me to share it with you. So it's possible that this has been fixed now,

but I can actually do a thing. I found, no, no, it's fine. I found this before the show. So back when i tried to do it i came across this discussion thread on apple.com which showed that someone else ran into the issue where there was no cancellation button for apple arcade the button to cancel was physically not there this is from february 2022 and i came across this post of someone that had the same issue because for me it wasn't there i clicked on this and this still has no

reference whatsoever for how to cancel a subscription from the apple tv so this is how i ended up being forced to install iphone to install itunes in order to get rid of the subscription there is absolutely no way from within a browser to cancel a subscription which is absolutely wild to me within a browser i couldn't believe it here i'll uh let me sign in. Let me, oh man, oh, this is not going to be, this is not going to be easy. I'm going to need a new, okay,

maybe I'm not as prepped for this as I should be. Should I do another topic? Yeah, sure. Why don't you do a topic while I get this going? Sure. I'll do the one that we kind of leaked earlier. Japanese government finally weans itself off of floppy disks. Since 2022, Japan's ministry of economy trade and industry has been pushing for the modernization of over 1900 submission protocols throughout the japanese government which still required companies to oh

whoa so it wasn't that companies were necessarily just happened to be submitting this way it required companies to submit official documents in outdated and defunct media formats like mini disks, floppy disks, and CD-ROMs. This year, many but not all of those requirements will be sunset, finally allowing companies to move beyond 1.4 megabyte floppy disks, which stopped being sold by their last major manufacturer, Sony, in 2011. Globally, many industries still use floppy disks for legacy hardware, like medical equipment and older planes. Notably, the U.S. government only modernized its nuclear launch coordination system to stop using floppy disks in 2019. Discussion question is, why do institutions hold on to legacy media?

Why is it so hard to modernize i think a lot of it is if it works don't fix it kind of mentality which is honestly often not the wrong kind of mentality um especially for things that were fine um i don't know yeah like if all you need to submit is a document and their system works that way, it's probably okay. I know there's like, there's issues at scale at like government scale as well. And you only have a certain amount of budget. Like if your it team only has a certain amount of budget, they're going to have to cut um to be able to do other things right um and if i'm if i'm assuming that they're not misusing this budget which is highly questionable but if i am

assuming that they're not misusing this budget they're gonna put it towards other things that might need it more um than something like that i don't know also there's there's someone who brought up isn't it really hard to hack into really old tech? It's not necessarily true, but it might not be as much of a target or people might not know how to do it. But I wouldn't say it's necessarily harder. Okay, I've got one little update for you guys. So if you go to the Apple support site,

which is where I ended up, and I clicked on TV, and I clicked on billing and subscriptions, this all seems pretty good, right? Start your cancellation. This is what greets you. What is the fine text there? If you don't have iTunes, download it for free. Why the fuck do i need itunes to cancel a subscription that is a little weird so download it why

why no really though i would actually like to know what the justification is for that i don't know i can't tell you i can't think of any reason why i should have to do that isn't itunes dead well clearly not okay so people want me to go to my icloud account okay so hold on icloud let's let's sign into icloud okay here we go let's do it let's let's let's let's let's play let's let's have the experience it is entirely possible that at some point i missed something oh my god people are also pointing out a bunch of different things yeah purchasing things as a government entity is often very interesting uh because you can't just like go out and buy the cheapest one

you have to go through like all these processes and yada yada can end up costing a lot more than you would expect um i don't have my iphone on me so i guess i need to get a phone call now yeah pretty fantastic why does it have a british accent at that scale wouldn't time saved outweigh the it works mentality clearly it just did or more probably in my opinion it was enough companies complaining about it all right here we go what's new on iCloud don't care okay I did not think to sign into iCloud I somehow got signed into um like the Apple support site before I couldn't even find a sign in today but I did manage to find it at some point you should continue to be careful as document names and things are being shown oh I'm not this is all complete garbage look at this this is from 2020 or something yeah don't worry about it uh okay your iCloud plan we're getting into dangerous settings sir I think you should

off I'll be fine there's nothing on here luke i promise you settings i click no apple id settings sure let's try apple id settings what are people saying uh okay yeah say family sharing uh yeah the really bizarre one was that it wouldn't let me remove the credit card. So I eventually did install iTunes and it wouldn't let me remove my credit card because I was the, uh, the family owner. Um, it looks like I can change that in iCloud. It didn't tell me where to change that.

It just said, you can't. So I didn't know that. tell me where to change that it just said you can't so i didn't know that uh role organizer how to change your family settings this is freaking hilarious check this out okay so i clicked on my role organizer you have access to these subscriptions shared features how to change it on an iphone ipad or ipod touch go here on a mac go here don't have enough of our products go f*** yourself seriously where is my where is my unsubscribe button here? And look, guys, my point wasn't necessarily

exactly the exact steps that I went through or didn't go through. My point was this is a prime example of some of the most ludicrous dark patterns that I have personally encountered. It was far more difficult than it should be okay so hold on a second let's uh can anyone else i'm open to suggestions here can anyone else figure out where in my icloud account i should go to there's some people that are really

mad i'm trying to get the steps that they want you to do from them sure no no i i know how to there's some people that are really mad i'm trying to get the steps that they want you to do from them sure no no i i know how to do it i did cancel my subscription guys i did figure it out but it's not that easy oh but they but but it's right there on the apple tv yes yes yes okay we'll go back to the apple tv now oh lordy okay here we go what's going on with that okay uh oh hold on i have to do this dan am i able to see it but not them yeah give me one step okay i love the i love the floating merch message yeah all right i can see it luke's gonna do another quick topic right sure yeah apple launches the Vision Pro.

The Vision Pro released today after reportedly taking just over 200,000 pre-orders. First impressions from customers have been broadly positive. Some of the ones that I've talked to personally, this is not in the notes, have been very positive. Though the handful of reviews that went up on Wednesday were a bit more mixed. That is very true. The Vision Pro was praised for its crisp displays minimal latency pass-through mode very impressive and hand eye control interface we already knew that the vision pro was going to be on the heavier end of headsets although i'm gonna add a note here

uh still lighter than a number of other ones um but most reviewers noted that they really uh that they really noticed the weight especially after a few hours um due to how front heavy it is yeah the back is just the strap a lot of other ones have either a more substantial strap or something weighing off the back so it helps counterbalance this one's weight is basically all at the front of your face impressions of the floating intangible keyboard range from clunky to usable eyesight the vision uh pros digital representation of the user's eyes on the external display is also apparently very uncanny looking in real life yeah it looks very different i think marquez

made a big note of this it looks very very different than um the the examples in the like i don't know what you'd call it product announcement trailer videos whatever uh meta likewise announced today a new update adding playback support for apple's stereoscopic spatial video which can be recorded on iphone 15 pro and pro max to their own quest headsets as well as support for using gamepads with the quest browser i don't know who wrote this, but it says I Googled and while vision pro supports game pads, it doesn't look like it supports the browser thing,

but anyway. Okay, cool. Discussion question. Is this the most out there? Apple product launch? You can remember, man,

you sure picked a meaty topic. Hold on. Let's finish this off. All right, there we go. Oh my God. I have new terms and conditions to accept. Okay. Yep, I'm good.

Oh, where'd it go? New terms. Oh my God. Okay. Require password. Okay, subscriptions. Seriously? I just signed in uh round two oh boy okay you know what it doesn't matter the point is it was there it was there so that's good

So that's good. Tell me something, Luke. In fairness to me, would you have found that? What? Would you have found where to manage your subscriptions? Where was it? It's under users and accounts, and then you click on your name. You go down to subscriptions where would you have looked to unsubscribe from apple i would have gone into settings

would you have or would you have gone to apple arcade uh that's a good point i would have done settings probably okay i immediately went to settings when i turned it on because that would be where i would manage my account sure where did you subscribe to it did you subscribe to it in the apple arcade app no i subscribed to it on my phone okay then i might go to settings getting subscribed to it was a pain in the butt for some reason i forget why okay because i didn't have an iphone on me yeah i might go to settings then i would scroll from here. I wouldn't immediately go to users and accounts. I would scroll down.

And I would look, look, look. Okay, then I would probably go to users and accounts. Yeah, I would want subscriptions in that menu immediately. I don't know that I would click on my user now. Absolutely not. No, I would. I would get here and then I'd probably go, what? And then go away.

I must have missed something. And I think that's exactly what I did too. This doesn't look right. Yeah, and then leave. leave and then what you want to go into game center now now that you figured out that you need to click on your name you go down to subscriptions okay is game center the thing that you were subscribed to no oh i don't remember what game center is it's something else entirely okay sure yeah it's like uh you can friend people and you can play mobile games together or something like that i can't remember exactly what it does or ever sure or did so in conclusion

i didn't find it it either moved or it was always there or it was a regional difference or it wasn't. And outside of that, the resources that I could find from Apple's own website did not direct me to a meaningful way to get it canceled. So here was another person who was trying to do the same thing that I was and who was directed to this help article, which included no information about how to do it on an Apple TV in order to do it on a Windows computer I needed to use iTunes and in order to access and in order to remove my credit card I needed to change my my family sharing which it didn't direct me how to do. And then now I know how to do. I actually had no idea that you have to do that by signing into iCloud, which is great. I would never have done that.

Now I know that. So I retract what I said about it not being there. I maintain what I said about it, not not immersed in the Apple ecosystem. Just to balance the tables out, should you show your Windows search thing? No, that doesn't matter. I was just memeing with you guys.

It was pretty fun. I searched for sleep because I just reformatted my desktop. Just to make it clear that I hate Windows just as much as I hate anything that apple does i i searched for sleep in the start menu because i wanted to tell my computer not to go to sleep because sometimes i need to remote into my workstation i just reformatted and the result was i can i can show on my yeah oh if you have it up then by all means go ahead and share it no so this isn't the exact same so if i search it on my laptop it shows view recent sleep time and then sleep country canada in his example

view recent sleep time was not there uh it was it was just sleep country canada so if he typed sleep and then quickly pressed enter it would have just it would have just like googled sleep country canada if i said it's hilarious if i send this to you dan can you put it on screen uh yes i should be able to okay uh how do i send it to you in a convenient way teams oh okay then you already have it because it's in the topic approval chat oh no you're not in the topic approval chat okay all right i will i will send this to you this is actually crew yeah i don't know i'll send it to when show crew Crew. Sleep country Canada. Yeah. You should probably buy a mattress somewhere else. I did.

Nice. If you live up here, that's a jingle you know. Just how it works. Well, I think they have the same jingle in the U.S. Oh. But it was like sleep country USA. And I heard it once when I was south of the border. That seems not fair. I was like, of the border that seems not fair I was like what yeah yeah one county valley yeah it feels gross I don't like that yeah it's our jingle

image button file not found I know I didn't attach a file I know what I'm doing I don't know in fairness to Apple it was like the middle of the night when I was trying to do this too. And I think that a lot of my frustration was already teed up from trying to get signed into that bloody thing without an iPhone, which was a really frustrating experience as well in iTunes. There's no way to manage your family group, by the way. So that was really annoying.

I just, it was a more frustrating experience than in my opinion it should be i don't think subscriptions should be buried anywhere i think they should be super super easy to find speaking of which i need to cancel my subscription because you just started yeah because i just started again i've got the uh the picture ready i played fantasia exactly the number of times i need to play it which is 90.99 times i only haven't finished the second the third phase of the final boss i got through the played it 0.99 times yeah oh like played it through yeah oh i'm just gonna fade it in there you go there you go that is the result for sleep on my brand new windows install it tries to auto correct it to sleep country canada and it best matches to sleep country canada that's absurd

i hate current year that's absurd settings nightlight? That's the setting? They got rid of this computer, so you can't search this computer. Why is it nested? Why is that nested, Dan? I don't know. I hate it. How is this this bad? I wish I could pay more for no ads.

There should be no ads in Windows. I mean, especially because we do pay for it. Yeah. This is unbelievable. the fact that everyone knows what a complete useless meme windows search is and the fact that it doesn't improve indicates that this is microsoft's desired behavior for it yeah to me and there's a whole there's so many settings in windows dedicated to sleep yeah like so many like how about sleep yeah yeah yeah now i'm angry that's a bug check windows admin i don't believe you i've seen it on basically every

windows machine i've touched in the last few years it If it's a bug, it's one that exists on purpose at this point, I'm sorry. I'm not even shopping for a mattress. Get better Intel. All right. Yeah, advertise better, nerds. All right, Apple Vision Pro. I did the intro. I want to try it. i haven't i haven't gotten a chance to yet the thing is apple only seeds to media that they get along with which i

you know is a thing um and being in canada and not being one of the first people to click the button um our unit isn't arriving until i think monday so i haven't tried it yet i the way that the way that it looks to me from the outside i've actually tried not to find out too much like i just sometimes i can't help it and i'll click an article and i'll read some of it or I just... Yeah, mostly that. I did watch the one Apple promotional video where she's packing for a trip or something like that and she's wearing a Vision Pro headset for some reason. So I have been exposed to some stuff, but I've been trying to keep my reactions as raw as possible because we're going to shoot a short circuit on monday

when it comes in and then after that my main mission i think is going to be to figure out how to use it as a non-apple user i've certainly had my frustrations using the apple products that i do daily drive i mean i've talked about this one before but you know there's absolutely no way to update the firmware on airpods without an iphone right no you cannot that's not through itunes not through icloud this one i'm sure about you simply can't um and and there's also features that are extremely inconvenient or impossible to change depending on how uh like i think there's third-party apps that have managed to uh you know change what the long press does and stuff like that except if you

have an ipad oh i'm sorry a big iphone will also solve the problem for you um apparently you better have an iphone or you won't be able to use the vision pro properly i think i have a 13 pro at home somewhere i will have to check unless unless i have it with me um no i don't have it i used to be a big like always two phones guy like i'd have one in my side pocket one in my back pocket and over the years i found that whether i'm on an iphone or whether i'm on an android phone i just don't really need it anymore either of them can kind of do everything and people who have this kind of super intense brand loyalty one way or the other i think they just haven't i think they just haven't tried the other in a while so the one way or the other

is an important point because run jun just said in floatplane chat i can't update my samsung earbuds on my iphone either really but what about on a computer i don't know you can only do it on an android device that's they didn't say that they didn't say that oh don't know. You can only do it on an Android device? They didn't say that. They didn't say that. Oh. Don't hamburger this hot dog. Okay, because that would be

really stupid. They said they can't on an iPhone. Yeah. They just said no iPhone. Sheesh. Can you do AirPods on a PC or Android? No. No, you can't.

We'll see if they respond. You can, but you have to install Samsung's iTunes. Okay, no, that's a joke. Very funny, you guys. Yeah, you have to use their Wear app, a handyman said. Well, that is equally stupid. And I hate it just as much. Yeah.

All right. what else we got uh do we talk enough about vision pro oh right yeah so i'm trying to figure out what it's for it's obviously not for gaming i think it's monitor replacement sure so it's a 3500 monitor it's a 3500 monitor that you could have in scenarios, but you can't have a monitor. Yeah. I think is, is it.

I mean, one of the ideas I had for the video was just yeeting the monitor off my desk at work and only using the vision pro as a monitor. I think you should use it in more scenarios than that. I think you should have, uh, like Yvonne drive the car and you work on your laptop i thought you're gonna say and wear the vision pro no okay yeah i mean based on their low latency pass through

it feels like that might be possible um but i'm not suggesting that you do it cool that might also be literally illegal i would think so i would hope so to be honest um but uh yeah no uh if you're going on a trip sometime wear it on a plane and set up a bunch of monitors instead of your laptop and see if it's interestingly productive and i can only use it with a macbook all right is that true well? Well, I'm already preparing myself to go back to the MacBook. Return of the Mac. One second. I mean, MacBooks are kind of killing it right now. Oh, I mean, yeah.

No question. It's just... Yeah. And you know what's really, really interesting? I think if you were to plot the amount of time that it takes me to go from completely fresh install. First time I've seen the desktop to my computer is fully set up and I can do everything I need on it. It would look like this.

When I, that fresh format, I was ready to do basic things on it in about four minutes. Oh, and I was, and I'm, and I'm ready to do pretty much anything i'm talking drivers are installed so so not that and then beyond that probably about another 10 minutes

and i can do 98 of what i need to do on it and there's there's things that i would set up on my personal machine uh or there's tinkery things that obviously i haven't bothered with like uh okay i want to play around with nvidia's ai hdr conversion tomfoolery and yeah sure that's the kind of thing that obviously takes a little bit longer to get everything dialed in exactly how you like it but that computer was completely usable for me to do my job in like 15 minutes yeah and that's assuming that the writing team keeps using the office suite instead of switching over to google docs which is something that we may do in the near future so having just gone through that experience i'm kind of sitting here going okay uh what exactly would prevent me

from using a macbook then because almost all of it is either cloud-based or something that i could easily install on a mac it's not like teams doesn't exist for mac yeah it seems makes me want to throw it through a wall anyways maybe i should do the apple challenge again maybe maybe i should just switch maybe why am i as much as i don't want to i know it would be fine for me i I work almost exclusively in browsers. Why would it matter for me? Well, you'd go to do a thing and you'd be like,

why can't I do this thing? It'll happen. I'm sure it'll happen. Yeah, for work though, honestly. Like one of the ones that drove me crazy last time was how poorly it handles mapped network drives. It's just a nightmare. So stupid. Well no why don't you get a thunderbolt why don't you get thunderbolt like no thunderbolt is a stupid solution for uh for that like direct attached storage in general is just a stupid solution i'm sorry i'm completely over it um apparently by the way someone did drive

with the apple vision pro and did get pulled over and got arrested well pulled over at least why does that not surprise me that's fun um i'm being told that you can only do one monitor replacement with it um i know i saw people with more than that of screen so maybe you can do one monitor replacement and then other apps around it why on earth would they care how many monitors you replace with it i guess it would have it would come down to how mac os handles maybe display management or something i have no clue which was awful last time i used it by the way it was just like terrible just clone window just clone aerosnap i'm talking specifically for the laptop usage, by the way.

Oh, okay. What I'm saying, I'm sure I'd be fine on a MacBook. I'm saying just to replace the laptop that I have. Oh, I see. I would still need the desktop. 100%. Right, okay, okay, okay. I understand.

Yeah, I would be going just, I use a MacBook now. Yeah, see, that's a little bit more drastic. If I was just replacing my laptop, genuinely, I think it would be completely fine. Yeah, okay, so apps it would be completely fine. Yeah, okay. So apps can be the other ones. You can only screen share one MacBook screen. And that's at 1440p, apparently. That's what Chad's saying.

I mean, that seems fine. Which I believe. Yeah. And Matt, who was doing monitor replacement, Matt from the Labs Web Development team, who was doing monitor replacement um sometime last week with a quest had three monitors on the quest so it is kind of a weird limitation and i wonder if you're right i wonder if it's something to do with mac os i don't know no idea i mean these are all things that i guess i'm gonna get to discover because the main question right

because everyone and their dog who's oh it's based on the display yeah see i i don't know don't don't don't take the things that i'm reading from chat as like Oh, it's based on the display. Yeah, see, I don't know. Don't take the things that I'm reading from chat as like 100% fact. It's just interesting to discuss. Everyone and their dog who's Mac friendly has already looked at this thing. So if we're going to make a video about it, it has to be from the angle of, okay, but hold on a second.

What if you're more like me? Should this be interesting to you at all? Or should you just be waiting for a second or third generation clone from a pc company that kind of works or something yeah and i think the answer is going to be you don't need to care about this right now unless you're willing to switch into the ecosystem so then my question becomes is is it worth it? They're asking for a pretty big outlay. That being said, I think they're going to have a bunch of tech people that are going to be happy to jump into it.

Wasn't Google Glass like $1,000? Something like that? I forget what Google Glass announcement price. I find people have a very intriguing amount of money whenever there's something interesting to buy. Yeah, it was $1,000. And do you remember how many people were wearing Google Glass at CES that year?

Everywhere. They were freaking everywhere. And I just, I couldn't believe it. I was like, I bought one of these because it's my job. I used it for a while and was like, okay, I have used it now it's pretty useless and now it goes in a pile and how are you people still wearing these i don't understand this and then by the following year all of them were gone i don't more in chat is saying a thousand dollars is way different than 3500 yeah yeah for sure sure it's still that's not my point it's it's also i would say

it's still in a range like to spend that much money on something very fresh experimental stuff like that is wild is wild it's asking a lot of those amounts are in the that's wild category are they the same no not at all no but like man google glass was only five years ago you have over a thousand dollars of throw it away this might be complete trash spending money not even it might be complete trash i don't think it's going to be trash but it might be sits in the box and doesn't get used yeah the battery man the battery life is a big concern for me i know i get that i get the pack in non-removable cable on the pack not true no it's removable yeah it turns out it's like a jumbo lightning connector or something oh that's sick it's kind of like the non-removable cable on that

iMac that we oh yeah yeah yeah yeah live on the land show as far as my understanding goes you just stick a thing in a hole and it pops out. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. I'm actually really happy about that. That makes me feel better about the world. Yeah. It is lightning.

I mean, it also just didn't need to be lightning at all. But hey, whatever, it's lightning. Sure. So that's something. Yeah. Five years ago was definitely not correct. Oh, yeah. No, that wasn't five years ago.

Hold on a second. Okay. What is this? Why am I... Was it longer than that? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. ago hold on a second okay what is this why am i was it oh no no no no no this is enterprise sorry this is enterprise edition 2 announced for 9.99 in 2019 hold on enterprise google glass here we go it was 1500 in 2013 yeah it was 10 years ago yep here you go sorry about that guys i'm excited for the display yeah it's supposed to be amazing out of everything i care about i think that's the one i care about most because that means progress for all the headsets and if i could just use my windows computer with that display

that would kind of be my ideal while i wait for and that would also be a way that i could kind of justify it as well because that oh no even then like that's a boy is that an ever an expensive monitor i do think a lot of yeah traveling tech people will find a legitimate way to justify it. Yeah, it's going to be tough, man. Dude, it's going to be tough at work too, though. Even just for privacy reasons. I work collaboratively with people a lot.

Yeah, you do. What am I going to... No, I know. Well, yeah, but I'm reviewing it. So I'm trying to think like, what the heck am I going to use this thing for? I don't think it's for you, to be completely honest. I mean, I want to like it, actually. I'm excited about it. I think it's for you to be completely honest i mean i want to like it actually yeah i'm excited about it i think it's really cool tech particular device is going to

be great for you that being said i do think you'd be able to see if it had value for other people i don't think you're like not an applicable person to review it to be clear i just don't think it's like okay here's one thing i'm not going to get any calls on facetime i don't think it's like, okay, here's one thing. I'm not going to get any calls on FaceTime. I don't know anybody with an iPhone. Yeah. That's one of the reasons why I wouldn't be for you, but well, yeah,

but so I, how am I even going to, how am I even going to applicable anything? Like I just sit in a chair and pretend you're on a plane. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Okay.

Obviously, but you can do it. Yeah. I know. I know. I can do it. I know. know I can... You can do it. I know I can sit in a chair. Good boy.

Sit. Do you want a Welch's? Do you want a Welch's? You've got a great point. All right. No, but yeah, I think it's... The price tag is a big holdback for the vast majority of people, right? It's going to be a huge issue.

We were just talking about the price of GPUs earlier, a VR headset for $3,500. I mean, we were balking at VR headsets that were less than $1,000 not that many years ago. Now it's $3,500. Yeah, it's obviously crazy. I think there's going to be a market of people that are interested in it. I literally know people that have already bought it. Yeah. Oh, no, not me. I thought you were saying you do too, and then I realized that you were saying already bought it yeah oh no no not me oh i thought you're saying you do too and then i realized that you were saying i don't know anybody but i know other people as well yeah

um multiple actually um and pretty much all of them are unanimously saying monitor replacement not at my desk so they're not trying to replace their currently existing multi-monitor setup but they are trying to make it so that that's a really that's a really extravagant i'm writing my novel in the starbucks and i want to do it like like next gen yep accessory absolutely it's gonna have to get a lot more useful than that yeah for the vast majority of people yes so it's a dead they had they had 200 000 pre-orders and they're gonna sell a bunch more i guarantee it apple's a hell of a thing honestly straight up if meta released the exact same headset at the exact same quality

people would tell them they were idiots. Yeah. But then, hey, maybe their stock would go... Maybe. ...bazonkers like it did today or yesterday or something like that. It went... Really? I think developers...

Yeah, Meta's going, like, wild, like... Well, if it was Windows-based, I think developers would hop on that within an hour. What happened? I forget. This is the five-day... this is the five day this is the five day it's their it's their year efficiency or whatever i don't know who knows it's the stock market even at biden bidenomics oh man okay cool earnings apparently they declared a deal they declared a dividend on the stock so owning it means you like get money instead of just you only get money when you sell

okay all right that makes sense okay cool um what else have we got here do you want to talk about the ai poisoning tool yeah i thought this was something different until i read it in the doc and now i'm like way more interested i didn't bother reading this i'm gonna run to the washroom while you go through it i've already read it sure uh i didn't bother read into this earlier in the week because i assumed it was like is it on that one yeah i assumed that it was um just like you know a way to jail AIs that we've had forever and people just bought it for whatever reason. But that's not it. That's not it at all.

It is way cooler than that. A team at the University of Chicago released their new free AI poisoning tool called Nightshade. It was downloaded at least 250,000 times in the first five days nightshade is intended to disrupt uh art generation models that scrape art without permission by identifying the subject of the image then applying a tag that subtly alters the image at the pixel level so other ai programs see something totally different than what's actually there. Interesting. Gradually, this will poison the AI's training data by making it misclass even when the image is screenshotted, cropped, compressed, or even filtered. The same team has previously released a separate program called Glaze, intended to confuse AI training algorithms so they interpret the image as having a completely different style than it actually does they

recommend using both together for the best effect there's a discussion question which i guess is dan and i now can we expect the notion of copyright to change in the ai era and how uh because you know everything is eventually made using tools that involve some kind of ai trained on some other type of copyrighted material etc etc etc um yeah i don't know all i know is i think this is super cool um i i find the the tool war of ai to be an extremely interesting thing i wish i had read into this more so before the show because i think it's super interesting thing i wish i had read into this more so before the show because i think it's super interesting and i will do so i will i will dive further into it after the show there is a really cool um page just nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu slash what is dot html i might as well do the whole thing and they have a whole write-up um talking about it you should check that out if you are interested super cool i love this kind of stuff fantastic

i like that if you don't want your stuff shared you have some tools in order to uh you know make it worse which is great very good is that miss vicky's yeah we've missed vicky's now yeah i've had miss vicky's for ages i don't usually look at the snacks that's cool though miss vicky's are great chips yeah they're good chips this is not an ad for miss vicky's nope not even a little nope um they'll kill you yeah see if it was an ad they wouldn't let me say that yeah yeah it's amazing how many people think like we have secret sponsorships and stuff that are not disclosed when we will, when we will say stuff that's just like, clearly you don't know anything about working with sponsors.

There's, there's absolutely no way any brand would have you say anything like that in a video that they sponsored. Oh boy. like that in a video that they spot oh boy um some uh actually somewhat interesting ai news this week google uh the bard chat bot can now use google's own image in two model to generate images congratulations you're slowly uh feature matching other things um generative ai chat is being added to google maps uh awesome that's great now it's probably going to direct me to the wrong place some percentage of the time because of hallucinations i don't want that at all uh amazon announced rufus a chat bot oh rip rufus usb uh announced rufus a chat bot in beta that will help customers shop on the platform maybe you'll be able to find

tvs more easily um and apple according to tim cook apple is putting a tremendous amount of time and effort into ai and plans to share more details later this year that's uh okay uh perhaps something related to their published paper about getting llms running locally on iph, that would actually be cool. That would actually be sweet. That would make buying an iPhone significantly more intriguing. Apple's been putting neural processing into their Apple Silicon, or do they call iPhone Silicon Apple Silicon?

I can't remember. But anyway, into their A-series chips for quite some time now. So I see no reason why they couldn't do this. Having a local L llm on there would be fantastic because maybe siri would be useful yeah maybe yeah that may be nice i mean they could have done that without it being local though and then it would be annoying and suck universal music group pulls tick pulls music off of tiktok um and then spec

ops the line was pulled off steam that's actually the second one that's a little more interesting to me but a bunch of tick tocks got muted because uh licensing negotiations broke down between umg and tick tock this week imagine tick tock caring about that i i i must have missed i blinked and tick tock went from just yeah we just use whatever music whatever we don't care we're from china and we don't care at all. To now they mute licensed music. Interesting. Anyway, the critically acclaimed 2012 game Spec Ops The Line was suddenly delisted from digital storefronts earlier this week. In response to a question from The Verge,

2K stated that the removal was due to the expiration of multiple partnership licenses, which The Verge took as a reference to copyrighted music on the game's soundtrack. So it's been 10 years, 12. That's a weird expiry is a weird one. Anyway,

the game's director, Corey Davis called the removal devastating personally, both for him and the rest of the creative team. And he likewise stated that this is not the end for spec ops, the line, but what future the game might have is currently unclear these kinds of licensing issues have come up before wasn't there a gta game that had a bunch of licensed music in it that had to be changed at

some point i'm not sure i'm not sure if i i'm not sure if i i'm going to be able to remember exactly what it was but i know we've definitely seen stuff like that before that's corey balrog uh gta4 apparently yeah vice city oh okay apparently there is gta4 vice city fun fact i haven't actually played through a gta game at all i played a bunch of one that came out for android i forget which one it was it was three maybe uh on my nvidia shield but i didn't beat it i think i beat five cancel them boys yeah i know but that would have happened like almost 10 years ago so i don't know it's been too long to really remember i didn't beat any ones other than five i don't think but i haven't played any gta game in a hot minute so i'm not sure mafia i i actually liked the mafia games more yeah that's on my list of i need to get around to this at some point because mafia 2

remastered came out a little while ago and apparently just flipping awesome so i liked mafia 2 um finally edge got caught stealing chrome tabs yeah what is this an edge feature that allows it to import data from other browsers has gotten more aggressive, much to the surprise of several users, including Tom Warren from The Verge, who found that after their most recent Windows update, Edge opened automatically with all the tabs from their default browser, Chrome.

One user had even uninstalled Edge and deleted all of its app data, only to have it open with all his Chrome tabs imported after an update. So that's bad uh time for a round show after dark yeah have you noticed teams is just like ignoring default browser stuff yes i have um that's over the last couple weeks i guess right i think it i think it might have gained a setting where you can now set teams's default browser to something that isn't edge

but when it first happened i don't think that was possible which is awesome awesome and then people were having we're we're slowly there's going to be notes in the monday morning meeting about this uh for people that work at the company but we're slowly working on a migration and it will be announced as a full migration on monday to everyone in the company using teams for meetings instead of google meet through calendar and in doing that we've been finding a lot of problems with teams meetings teams has also been especially having trouble the last week or so i think it is maybe that's it and maybe it'll get better let's hope. I wouldn't count on that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyways, After Dark. Sure, let's see what we got. Hi, LLD. You've spoken of the difficulties running video hosting services. Think there's a wisdom to be gleaned from the older sites? For example, Newgrounds, on track to 30 years of hosting user content. Actually, we were having a fun conversation right before the show started

about Twitch and the no-good, very bad week that they've had. Pokimane announced that she's no longer exclusive. She will stream wherever she pleases. And, you know, obviously, Pokimane's not the biggest creator on the platform, but she's certainly a prominent one. And she's just one of many prominent creators who have left or multi-stream now to platforms such as YouTube and Kik. of the conversation around you know how could they let pokemain go or whatever is probably going to end up coming around to money and uh luke came across a calculator that i think you guys might find very interesting can i switch over to your screen yeah so the calculation that i have on screen is roughly for this show on public channels so i think there was like 2000 and something on

twitch there was like almost 13 000 or something on There was like almost 13,000 or something on YouTube. And then I threw in 20 for good measure because Facebook exists. And I did the standard plan because I don't know, whatever. There isn't a big difference between standard and basic. So I did standard and then 1080p because that's what we're streaming in. I'm saying the WAN show is roughly four hours. We have that many viewers and this is average viewers. So I did did 100 of the stream because i don't have the total amount of viewers in order to give a lower percentage so we did 100 of the stream and uh yeah 8 000 us dollars

now this isn't some number that luke pulled out of his butt no this is from amazon's actual cost estimator this is amazon ivs cost estimator this is the thing's actual cost estimator. This is Amazon IVS cost estimator. This is the thing that Kik uses. And Twitch uses. And Twitch, yeah, effectively. This is someone mentioned Pirate Software. Yeah, I'd seen this before, but I saw his thing on this, and that reminded me of this site, which is why I showed Linus.

Pirate Software is really cool. Yeah, then I looked over here and was like, how many people are alive right now on these different websites so let's go uh 3262 channels yeah let's let's play a game let's let's play a game 3262 channels oh that's a big number um and let's go viewers right now what's their like average let's kind of let's kind of we'll kind of eyeball this. Let's eyeball this. Grab halfway up a slope. They look like halfway up a slope is around here, actually. Okay. Maybe even higher.

So what's that? This is fairly low, as far as I can tell, for average. Let's say 180,000. Sure. And then... Okay, and then let's... Yeah, that's all the time. But that's all the time but that's not four hours that's all day ah yes now obviously they would have volume discounts probably very significant ones

mm-hmm obviously this is marked up this is not not Amazon's raw cost to run Twitch. Oh, and Twitch has, I mean, way higher numbers. Let's have a look at what Twitch's numbers look like. 2.2 million viewers and 140,000 channels. Do we even want to input this? This number obviously means nothing, just to be very clear. It's just fun. Don't take this too seriously.

But it's entertaining to throw it in the calculator anyways. Woo! For a day! Obviously, this is not representative for like a billion different reasons. So again, don't run too hard on this. For 727 billion different reasons. It obviously doesn't cost that much but the point is that it doesn't make sense to give gigantic payouts to streamers to stream on your platform when streaming is expensive when those are the only ones that

you're making money on anyway um and you are you've basically been operating at a loss from the moment you acquired this company until now with absolutely no end in sight for it operating at a loss the only reason kick exists at all is that it's just gambling money yeah so yeah and then you throw like uh amazon prime free subscriptions into the pile as well like so a lot of people have asked us hey floatplane why are you guys like slacking why don't you like have a free tier and why don't you do more on streaming and do this and do that because because we don't because we don't like putting money in a fire yeah streaming streaming we we offer streaming on flow plane but it's like it's it's an avenue that i honestly wish we never went down uh we

can't take it back now but i mean we can yeah but we shouldn't we shouldn't um and yeah it's it's rough what what i like in my head kind of wish we did was was just develop a live chat that detects if a twitch or youtube or whatever else stream is live and then generates a subscriber only live chat for you or something like that i don't know but i mean we did it it's here now so we good team we do the streamings um and it's just it's a fun it's a fun calculator to to to play with i guess yeah uh it's it's rough too because something that was actually very surprising to me using the steaming uh streams charts site i don't know how accurate it is i just found it uh today but stream charts twitches was really high right 140 000 channels 2.2 million viewers

this was surprising to me yeah youtube is low-key kind of a big deal whoa it turns out i didn't think for live streaming though i didn't think they'd have like twice the viewers dude it's youtube wow everyone who's like yeah man like you know rumbles you know youtube youtube sucks it's good we're gonna youtube is just unfathomably powerful they peaked what is this yesterday seven days ago they peaked at eight million viewers yeah they don't they don't they don't need to they don't need to offer giant packages to prominent streamers they don't need to i mean they can if they feel like it but they also just don't need to yeah that's wild because like i was looking at our numbers and we had yeah 13 000 live on youtube and then 2900 on on twitch um i don't know why anyone's watching

on twitch uh colton insisted on turning the ads back on so that's why they're back on nice so you should just good watch on float plane or watch on youtube or watch on facebook apparently because that's a thing yeah yeah i don't know it's just it's an interesting it was it was a fun dive uh because i yeah yeah it's just a fun dive seeing the numbers of these companies is interesting and you know you know there's going to be like insane volume discounts especially when you start getting to the numbers that we were talking about like it's going to be a totally different world um but it's still interesting to see it's a lot of money being pumped through ivs yeah this is uh this is from arcane canned on twitch

uh twitch no longer offers big streamer contracts because dan clancy said i can tell you the cost of retaining those streamers would have been far more than the revenue generated that is something we've been very clear about we don't want to do that because the only way to do that then is to have this imbalance where we make up for that on smaller streamers yeah it makes a ton of sense yep yeah yeah it's pretty wild um and like it's it's an interesting the streaming economy in general is really interesting because there's all these companies just losing money hand over fist and then the viewers and a lot of the streamers uh are really mad because the viewers are angry because uh sites like twitch are inputting more ads or making different viewing experiences uh worse in certain ways or potentially pressing the creators that they like so they're mad for the creators to do

like their own transcoding or whatever else we've seen um and a lot of the creators want to make more money because obviously why not why wouldn't you want to make more money because obviously why not why wouldn't you want to make more money everyone wants to make more money um but all the money's being burnt so i don't know it's interesting vc money is a hell of a thing yeah more questions yeah during a cpu upgrade the ihs was melted into the copper plate on the cooler half the pins were bent when i removed it from the motherboard uh what is the worst thing that has happened to you during a cpu upgrade that shouldn't be possible that thing yeah that doesn't make much sense i mean the worst that's happened to me is obviously dropping it worst thing i happen had happened was i was handling a hard drive while doing uh

some work on my mineral oil computer and my hand was oily and it went nice and there was nothing coming off that drive from there on was unfortunate just went to facebook and it has 29 viewers so i underestimated i'm sorry i apologize sorry i guess 20 i didn't count nine of you yeah i was your mom one of the ones you didn't count she actually genuinely probably doesn't watch through facebook yeah no i know is a youtube viewer i suspect okay next up hi ll dean i work for a major general contracting firm and we are seeing some amazing technology come into construction.

Do you think at a certain point technology usage will plateau in skilled labor jobs? No. Not personally. It'll just get faster, more efficient. Until we can, like, just... There's a building. There's going to be some amount of progress. Hey, LLD. there's a building there's going to be some amount of progress hey lld i'm an icu nurse and have long enjoyed watching your videos ever had a negative tech related health care experience the amount of tech we use just to keep one person alive is wild

i haven't had too many health care experiences personally um so no I can't say I've had a negative tech-related experience. My only negative one was the ultrasound machine uses Windows CE, and it was hilarious watching it boot into Windows. I had a friend who was an MRI service technician and passed away over the covid period um and was working like insane hours because of covid stuff and just talking to him the fact that all that stuff works in the song and dance that it has to work in is is pretty impressive it people that work for hospitals. Good job.

I think they're nearly classed as biomedical engineers. I didn't ask them. It kind of depends. I know that some of them are like, if you want to think about it, as IT for hospitals, but you need a special engineering degree just to serve as a cow or something. It's kind of ridiculous.

A computer on wheels. Sorry. Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry. It's like a computer on a cart. They call it a cow.

Yeah. Not like veterinarian tech. I was like, I need an engineering degree. We're jumping to vets now. No, no, sorry.

Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good. Hi DLL. Do you figure wearing the Steve shirt during an Apple interview for senior software engineering position will be positive, neutral, or negative? That's interesting, actually. I think it's going to depend on your interviewer.

Yeah, a lot of it comes down to that. Yeah, you don't have to tell them where it's from. But I think if they don't recognize the shtoil of it they uh probably aren't paying very close attention so then it would be neutral and if they do recognize it i would say most people would probably think it's kind of cool that you have you know a steve style shirt you just don't tell them you got it from lTT Store. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. I just might not mention that. Yeah. If they ask, just say MAC address. Yeah.

It does have MAC address branding on it. All right, let's see if I can get this one right. Hello, Dynas, Nuke, and Lan. Mr. Lefrafarf. Lefrafarf. When picking back up an old project that was untouched for months what do you do to regain interest in continuing and remembering what you have made that's that's all that's the story of my life oh god that's all i'm glad it was just luke preemptive work

um right you gotta try to leave good crumbs for yourself i have a piece of my uh i have a piece of my motorbike sitting in our sandblasting thing right now uh yes still yes wasn't that started years ago well no no well no okay it was started a year ago oh i thought it was way and i only put it in the sandblaster a week ago and And then I had to have Tynan help me because the bottom had to be taken out so that it could fit enough that I could actually get the gun and the hoses and everything to the right places on it. Anywho, the point is, I put things in organized piles. I label and I make notes for myself. That's why I said preemptive work. Like I, oh my God, it took me two and a half hours to change the windshield wipers on my

Taycan the other night. Why? You're either going to love my reason or you're going to hate it. Okay. So here's the thing. If you buy the full assembly, I think it costs somewhere in the neighborhood of like 20 to 50 depending on the car and the bottle year and whatever else yeah okay so it comes with oh it comes stop i just stop i love it though okay so it comes with the the like the plastic and

metal thing and then there's like a clip and it goes into the thing you can get oem ones from the manufacturer or you can get third-party ones as long as they have the right compatibility type or whatever else anyway. The more economical way, and you can get these for as little as like a few dollars in some cases, is to slide out the actual rubbers and buy new rubbers and put them in. In my case, I went with silicone blades because they have good performance characteristics and they last a long time. And I was having a heck of a time. As it turns out, there's not a lot of people who drive Taycans.

As it turns out, there's not a lot of people who drive Taycans. So the resources for DIY projects on them are relatively limited. And the resources around trying to save $13 on your Taycan are especially limited so when i was searching for someone who makes just the rubber component just the rubber strips that it can be can be installed on a tycan and then just swapped out uh just that part um anyway i ended up with this article that was like the top five windshield wipers for the Taiken. As it turns out, they hadn't tried installing any of these, apparently, because I ordered one of them. It's probably generated.

I ordered one of them where the pro, one of the pros, was that they sell just the replacement rubber strips. I was like, great. So that's good. I will put on aftermarket holders once, and then every other time after that, I won't have to throw away that whole assembly, creating a bunch of unnecessary waste, and I'll save a buck. It'll be awesome.

So, they clearly never tried it. I ordered them. They didn't fit at all. It was immediately obvious that they wouldn't fit. Credit to the store I ordered from. I wish i could shout them out they have a compatibility stage in their order fulfillment and they actually they ask you your car when you order windshield wipers and they messaged me they were like hey we noticed

this isn't compatible like officially so if you know something we don't know then go ahead and click this button and then you can't return them i was like okay fair enough so they arrived they don't fit at all and cool of them though yeah yeah that's very very cool of them and so i'm kind of sitting here going okay but i need to windshield wipers what can i do get this the oem porsche assembly other than having this weird little aerodynamic blade or something that comes out the other side so so it's got like it's a shape like this it's like this like this and then there's a third one and then it comes out like that it's like from profile profile view of the thing it has a fin that sticks out the other side that doesn't go against the windshield and i don't know whatever

who cares other than that thing the actual profile of the rubber identical sort of get to that uh so that got me thinking huh maybe instead of putting on the third party assembly and then swapping the rubbers on that, I could just take the rubbers out of my third party assembly and then I can just order more of them after if I can figure out how to get them into the OEM wiper blade assembly. Well, that took a while. well that took a while first i had to figure out how to disassemble the porsche wiper blade which it was very obvious to me it had this plastic end cap that had some wiggle in it so clearly clicked on at some point as it turns out not designed to come off it's not designed to come off at all there's absolutely nothing you can do no amount of prying and i fixed it anything under it could get that off the only way i could get it off was to just forcibly rip the old rubber blade out

and then there are two metal strips that sandwich it and as soon as you take the blade out, you can move them together and you can pop the end off. So the way the assembly process works is they put it together and click on, but there's no way to

remove them. These are at both ends. That was only part of the battle. I had to figure out how to hold these two stupid strips together while I fed the other thing through. It turns out that is not the way to do it. The best way to do it is actually to put the rubber thing into one and then put the other one on and then click the middle and then slide on these two little retaining clips and then put the other one on and then click the middle and then slide on these two

little retaining clips and then pop the end caps on uh but this is all trial and error because i can't find any resources for this for how to rebuild no one's ever done this before a portion stupid oem wiper blade thing so i don't know what my hourly rate is but whatever it is that was the world's most expensive windshield wiper change i've only changed i'm too cheap to generally do it so i've only ever changed windshield wipers once and it was on my current car you live in vancouver yeah it's fine oh my god no it isn't it's bad for your windshield it'll scratch it up windshield's fine so i've done it once uh i didn't know there was insert things but i assumed so i went to

canadian tire and asked for them they said they don't exist they didn't they didn't tell me that they don't have them they said they don't exist and then i said okay what one of these things do i need for my car and the guy handed me one i went outside it was clearly incorrect i came directly back inside because my plan was just swap it in the parking lot like i don't care yeah um you were talking about opening the mattresses of the parking lot but absolutely i was doing maintenance on my car in the parking lot um i go back inside i'm like this is wrong and they're like you can't return it so i ended up spending if we're talking about hourly rate longer than it was worth convincing them to take it back and they did eventually take it back and then i bought the right one which i just figured out by googling um and then finally

swapped it and that was actually i mean other than debating with them about how i should be able to return something if they were literally the ones that told me it would work whatever um it ended up being very easy yeah took me like 45 seconds oh yeah no i know how easy it's supposed to be um anyway i learned something and now all i have to do is order the replacement rubbers which required some modification by the way because the way they click into the the third party assembly uh there's a little um indentation in the molding at the end where two little metal hooks kind of grab onto it that doesn't exist on the porsche one because it has end caps so i have to cut that off but that's fine because they're actually about a half an inch too long anyway okay so i just cut that part off as long as yeah as long as i get a nice clean cut um they work great i rain next my

windshield i put on my new windshield wipers and it's like dead silent everything removed i'm very happy there's some kind of um there's something in either the rubbers or something that causes a metallic residue on your fingers never figured that out that formed that formed at some point most likely carbon or graphite sure uh lubricant why would that be on um uh would that be on there yeah help you get it in yeah oh okay all right cool unironically luke yeah i know i know i know cheesy little grin you put that away. That would be my answer.

Anyways, someone asked if I made a guide now that I have figured it out. The answer is no, I didn't. It was very late by the time I was done. Maybe next time. You know, I'll upload a YouTube short. Yeah, that would be a fun channel. Linus tries to change his windshield wipers. Like saving $10 by spending hundreds of dollars

worth of hours and that's the whole premise of the channel yeah that'd be sweet yeah i'd watch it you know what i'd watch it too they'd have two viewers yeah i mean oh man it's like i i you know i've got a i've got a button fell off of this, and the only way to get a new button is to travel to Pakistan for the factory where they made it. See, that would be awesome. I would love that. It's not even sort of worth it. Not only are you spending more money to do the fits, but it also makes sense in time.

That would be sweet. That would be so sweet. Oh, I do probably have security footage of me doing this. Hold on a second. Oh, I do probably have security footage of me doing this. Hold on a second. Oh, man. That's how we resurrect Channel Super Fun. Channel Super Fun. That's Channel Super Frustrating.

Yeah, new spin-off. But it's fun for the viewer. Wasting $30,000 of my time to save 65 cents. I mean, I've done that before on my car where the part that i'm trying to change is like four dollars and then it takes me 15 hours to change the part but that's like doing maintenance and mercedes would charge me i think the last one i did was like six grand because you have to take the dashboard out oh my god and but if you know how to do it you can do it by crawling underneath with a pair of a couple of pliers and,

and redo it. Uh, so you don't have to take anything out, but it does take ages. So basically you're saying you want to be the host of this channel. No, no, no.

I'm saying that's a reasonable way to save thousands of dollars. What you're doing is not like replacing a button and you have to go to Pakistan or like, you know, I, but I, I i mean stuff like that is um the consumables can get really expensive and it's unnecessary as well what night did i do this it was a while back why is this yeah see coburn gets it it's not about the wipers it's about not letting them win yeah i am i am so for that mindset yeah that's one of the reasons i respect linus so much is because he does shit like that it's awesome like yeah i don't care how much your car costs

i'm not spending i already bought the car yeah yeah yeah that's exactly why i don't want to spend more it's already a perfectly fine wiper assembly on the car. And there's obviously like a consort. It's like light bulbs, right? They all got together and they're going to go, okay, well, these wiper blades are going to fail. How much material science and experience have you had in the world with every single car ever having wiper blades

and you can't make them last longer than three months? I have very strong feelings about a lot of things that linus is describing that he did so i'm like yes you go linus thanks dan you go too oh you know what i can figure out if i effectively stalled for time yet no no i can i can figure out when i did this because i created a doc for myself so okay so yeah we're coming all the way back to what actually got us here auto care car documents and tips keywords tycan car windshield wipers rain x yeah because you have to help find things on google drive because the search is so bad yeah so details hold on i created this doc january 27th so okay that'll help me narrow down where exactly i need to go to to find my little project so yeah we were talking about how you pick up the merch message from half an hour ago was we were talking about how you re-pick up projects or tasks

or whatever that you've put down for a significant period of time. And the, the core idea was that it's all in, in the preemptive work. It's all in the work that you do while you're already working on that project. And that is generally a note taking organization, planning stuff like that. I don't know what Linus is trying to do. Um, and you can extrapolate this to things that aren't serious as well.

So you should do this for things that are serious I think we want to switch to oh no that's the wrong one that one so there it is that's how to do it yeah give yourself notes keywords are key

here also here I am. Here I am. It works. Reading, researching, inspecting. So we're at like nearly an hour now? Yep. This is the most ADHD thing I think I've ever seen. Okay, I think by this point I have switched to Rain-X. It's about an hour and a half?

Yeah. That's not too bad, actually. I was so frustrated because, like, it shouldn't be that hard. It's a little plastic clip. It can't be that hard to, but if I break it, well, I have to buy a whole new one and I'm not going to have new windshield wipers on my car tonight.

And I can't put my old ones back on because I ripped the rubbers out. So unless I can get it apart, I got no way to put it back together. Do you know, Darius? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At at the whale land that we had in the lab warehouse uh that night was a very interesting night for a few people i ended up i think staying there and gaming no i i think i went to go sleep for i don't remember what happened to me um my dad stayed up all night and then went and uh taught a plumbing lecture

and then came back and kept gaming so he didn't sleep at all and daris i thought he went home to go sleep he went home remembered that his truck was like partially taken apart and like i don't remember exactly what he did he like uh replaced the fuel injectors or something i don't remember what it was but he did this like whole maintenance project on his truck for the entire duration of the night didn't sleep at all and then came back um which was why when he was in the left for dead tournament before the finals game he he jumped out of his chair and just did a bunch of push-ups because he's trying to like get his blood flowing so he could wake up so he could play better absolute mad lad i very much enjoy surrounding myself with these types of people it's a very interesting life garan ninja says luke's dad is a machine

yeah we're we we're we're convinced too yeah yeah that was, that was a heck of a weekend. Alright, Dan, hit us. Sure thing. Hey, Duke, Lan, and Dynas, what are some of your favorite 4K HDR movies to show off QD OLED TVs? Also, I watched Hackers and it was ridiculously cheesy

and hilarious at the same time. Thanks for the tip. No problem. Encanto, bad ending to that movie. Absolute visual fiesta. It's so beautiful. That's definitely my favorite right now. I apologize if this has already been asked, but what is Linus's opinion of of the mig switch that was announced at the end of

last year and is set to release this month okay this is my first exposure to the mig switch it appears to be a uh an r4 or whatever whatever that thing was called for the ds oh this yeah i didn't know it was called that and honestly based on the website it's kind of hard to tell but yeah looks sketch what am i even looking at here is that rasputin i don't know who it is but uh oh it is yeah it totally is yeah uh what man what was that sense of the colors what was the one before the r4 r4ds or like what what are what are these things called just like um i don't know i don't know just like pirate cartridge it's a non-hardware modification way to flash cards flash cards okay there you go

flash cart um i don't know i would be i'd be interested in trying it makes which is the only backup and development device for all Switch consoles, regardless of version, firmware, and type. That's wild, actually. And requires no installation or modification of the console, just plug and play. I'm surprised that the Switch got this broken.

Right before the new one comes out or gets announced at least yeah kind of bad timing um you know it's like yeah you can pirate games on the switch and finally um i mean if you can if you can i mean it's still cool it's still very cool because you can get micro sd cards that are like a terabyte right uh yeah i think yeah i think so so i apparently can't buy one i go to the website oh but so they either got taken down or they're not up yet or something like that yeah one terabyte micro sd card is 100 bucks you pair that with this thing, you get a lot of games. Super easy to get in China. France, apparently pretty easy. Italy, no problem.

Mexico, no problem. Watch out, guys. Something to keep in mind is that these can be illegal, depending where you're from, even if you use them for their official purpose, which is to back up your own cartridges uh so yeah thoughts are yep this is a thing that apparently exists i am very curious to try it but i also uh does anyone have one like are you guys uh so the canadian store doesn't work but

you can go to american stores that ship to canada okay yeah i'm kind of curious i think this is just shopify yeah there's just shopify stores that shipped to canada got it okay yeah interesting you can get switch banned with these um says mcbain nintendo can ban the game's unique serial number oh very interesting i don't know i just i just buy my games guys i um i am at that era as well yeah like i i uh i don't subscribe to services though yeah that's fair enough yeah if i was if i wanted to if i wanted to rip off nintendo i think uh a steam deck and emulation is probably the route i would go or a um an ally and emulation if you need the extra performance

yeah yeah all right okay what else we got oh uh let's see hey lld my wife bailed on the pokemon franchise when she lost the ability to have the entire pokedex in one game what franchise do you feel has let you down the most that's an interesting take if your tagline is you got to catch them all and then you're just like you can't yeah but i feel like pretty interesting eventually the sheer number of pokemon because they're always releasing new ones so that you have new ones to collect would have just been it would have just gotten completely unmanageable like how many are there now there's like 150 in pokemon blue and red if i recall correctly that's right first gen is it 150 151 oh sorry god 1025 game so maybe you are correct but in that generation there's 151 yeah you said the games though um 1015 is that what you said 1025

apparently 1025 over a thousand let's say that yeah like how could you possibly hope to balance a game that has a thousand yeah playable battleable pokemon yeah and you can put all those pokemon in something called pokemon home that i don't know anything about but i know you can put pokemon there from all the different games yeah like that's ridiculous no i get it um what franchise has let you down the most though i mean it's got to be final fantasy for me um i i loved the games and then i just didn't can i just say a company blizzard bethesda oh so also blizzard are you games to start with b are you off the starfield like bandwagon now yeah yeah okay so you're just over it yeah i tried really hard you really did it was sort of admirable i gave it every effort i possibly yeah you really did it was actually

kind of sad yeah it's sad to watch yeah yeah the disillusionment it only comes that much stronger it was replaced with rage when you try that hard yeah like is it less of a piece of shit now or is it just no yeah okay no cool and i have no faith that it will get cyberpunked because the problem is just not that into it anymore they're on fire tonight it took me a sec these have been very high quality that was a deep cut i am uh i'm appreciative wow he's not there to fix it in my opinion the the problem is the company yeah and that's why i said i wanted to say a company not a not an individual franchise uh i don't think they're capable anymore i actually don't because you look at

that you look at the trajectory ever since oblivion and actually in my opinion every game from every franchise from bethesda ever since oblivion has been some form of regression and people are going to be pissed off because everyone loved skyrim but in opinion, Skyrim was kind of the beginning of the end. In like a huge amount of different ways. Okay, but maybe Blizzard never let you down because, hold on. First of all, this is a different company and also I don't agree. Hold on. Because maybe Blizzard just changed their name okay have you seen this no storm gameplay reveal is this like some of the original devs or something this is folks who worked on starcraft and warcraft 3 uh they just oh that looks so cool. They just shattered their Kickstarter.

Seven months ago. How had I never heard about this? I'm not sure how you missed this. Look at that micro. I love the art style. Yeah. It's so defined and everything's really easy to read. And we've been watching this for 40 seconds

and I understand whatever. RTS games are notoriously difficult to follow. So, so good so good i've never even seen this game before and i can fully understand what's going on great character models yeah love the ui uh and even like the terrain as well like the trees and all of the terrain is it's great there's a lot in really well there's a lot of really cool ideas uh i am i am floored that you haven't seen any of this yet storm gate it's called yeah i've maybe heard of it but i haven't seen that video don't pre-order you know whatever but also it seems like what they're doing is really cool so if you want to support it then is there an estimated uh i i don't remember people are talking about

modded versions of the elder scrolls yeah but that's not the game um there's i i skyrim modding is fantastic uh starfield modding is uh required to even have a potential of enjoying any percentage of the game but is nowhere near as good the person who made the multiplayer mod for skyrim was looking into playing making a multiplayer mod for starfield and just didn't bother his quote on it i wish i could find it he just eviscerated them yeah it was brutal like back to something that maybe doesn't suck um stormgate yeah is this the future looking at all the layoffs in the games industry looking at all the challenges facing triple a gaming and the enormous budgets required to bring the next gta or the next call of duty or whatever it is to market don't people just want fun i strongly believe don't people just

want battle bit i strongly believe so and i still enjoy battle bit i still play every once in a while and and um love it like i where what what the heck happened to rts yeah what it's not as it's not as profitable as the gacha game like how did we get i think rts is harder to continually monetize through microtransactions because people don't care as much about the skins look how did we get two f***ing diablos since the last RTS from Blizzard? Yeah. How does that make any sense? Yeah.

It might be smaller teams making more bespoke things. Baldur's Gate is not an RTS. I'm trying so hard to not somehow force Baldur's Gate into this conversation. And yeah, it's not an RTS. Come on. I think that's one of the things that amazed me about Palworld when i tried it for the first time yeah it was just a game it's just fun you push go and then you're you're playing the video game there's no uh like stuff that wastes your time um one thing that i figured that wasted my time was the most was death

stranding that was a huge yeah unrespecting game same with probably starfield as well but power world mario the first mario party for switch whatever whatever the name of that one is just brutal just let me play the video game let me have fun please and they could have patched it so easily all they had to do was make cut scenes skippable and the game would have been way better even even i'm gonna mention bg3 now even bg3 you just hit the right mouse button and then the the line is gone right going from that where i can skip through dialogue really quickly yeah or listen to it and then going to starfield terrible i don't know stormgate will be released on early access through steam in 2024 uh d martinez says the game is boring bland and the main draw

of bethesda games exploration in a lively and handcrafted world was completely gone the modern dude i'm not gonna put my heart and soul into a mod for a game as mediocre as this get them get them wait february 5th no way Stormgate's coming out in two days no is it really did this sneak up on me like that wait it's the second you live somewhere that isn't here it might be early access or something no no exact release date's been confirmed yet

it's a complex game so it may take some time blah blah blah blah yeah no no no closed beta apparently okay well I'm not in that but i mean you're influential enough that i bet you could be yeah anyone know anyone who works give me in there luke wants to play i realistically won't have time but i do and you have a new computer is it working now yeah okay good it's so it works with the side panel off um all right well we'll all right we'll it will let the people watch the video i've put it through some stuff though and like when it when

it um i haven't recreated this scenario yeah but when it did overheat that one time i was pushing it very hard but can you play final fantasy 6 i haven't tried yet i am planning on playing all right tonight slash tomorrow all right cool i i gave him my manual from when i was a kid it's actually super cool yeah have you looked through have you like thumb through and stuff yeah i haven't even before i was able to play i was like well that's what it used to be like i love stuff because your parents wouldn't let you play the game all the time i also and so you had to just read the manual i enjoy tactile stuff in general but like when we were playing ano which i would still like to play again sometime yeah yeah we should go back to our world and like you

know finish some stuff figure out what the heck we were doing but uh when we were playing ano i used to take written notes on a on a like notepad um so that we could figure out what the heck we were supposed to do next time steam has since introduced a feature that i try to be uh you told it to me through a video actually so i learned this from you um but it's like the coolest thing ever and no one seems to know about it but steam has a feature where if you bring up the overlay you can have notes for a game that are cloud saved and game specific which is like the coolest thing ever yeah um so i would have just digitized them if that feature existed back then but oh it's also a you play game you can probably force steam overlay onto it but not sure yeah um anyways yeah storm gate that looks sick uh i i kind of hope that the future

of games is actually aiming a little bit less high on the difficult, expensive things. Now tell me this. And still aiming really high on the fun. Now tell me this. What if that means these small teams have to use AI in order to achieve their goals? I don't even think I want to get into that conversation. This is dangerous. You're asking for... There's knives to my throat right now, man. i don't even think i want to get into that conversation this is dangerous you're you're

asking for it's there's knives to my throat right now man uh the usage of ai how much you should do how much you can do all that kind of stuff is very very intrigued i don't want either of you to touch that let's have another let's have another merch message black smoke rise says we are never going to bed lol i have a sign if we go down i have a sign chat we have a sign for this it's fine uh hi dll i've worked for my high school's it department for three years but i'm going to study civil engineering in college what is a good way to market tech skills to non-tech employers uh i mean i did this i'm assuming you probably did to a certain degree as well back

in the day no so i used to walk into uh most i would try to profile places that i thought would need it work so i wouldn't necessarily walk into a grocery store i don't know that's just an example yeah sure no chain because it's yeah especially no chain what i would try to look for was small mom and pop probably this is the only location that exists uh medical or legal practices because i'm just off the top of my head with both of those uh tons of regulations around data regulations data retention security for different things sure that's when true crypt was super sick back in the day and nobody knew what true crypt was so i could

basically just like get them set up with true crypt and show them how to use it and that would be like an automatic win and i could often do that part for free yep and then get my foot in the door and be like all right now that your data is encrypted so you're not breaking a bunch of laws because you probably were because most of them were by the way just so you know um uh i can do more things for you you're gonna have to pay me now but i can set you up with you know like uh data redundancy so that remote access remote access do all these different types of things make it so that if this one computer dies your entire company doesn't go up in flames and you can give some um some uh cases of like here's an example of a company where they had a fire uh they lost all their records and they just immediately went bankrupt because they're a legal or medical thing or whatever and that like can't really

happen um huge risk in legal and medical field if you don't have good insurance though yeah uh i didn't know that back then let's move forward uh but i think that is probably a thing um i think the insurance might be on the i don't i don't know there's some stuff this is not legal advice this is yeah this is definitely everything he's saying right now is the opposite of legal not even sort of but yeah it's beagle lice but find a way to communicate how being more technologically advanced can financially benefit that business the one bit i'll pitch in with this don't jargon them show them what they can do with it yeah for real show them the result because there probably is a lot of these companies like they just don't know what is possible technologically.

And they might be able to save a bunch of their own time. Maybe they're making enough money. This is the only storefront they want to have. But there's some tedium involved. And if you can help them skip that tedium, you might just make their life a bunch better. And if you can do that at a cost that is reasonable, they might run with it. All right, Dan, hitah's duke and lan i work with superconducting magnets that will be

used in the lhc at cern oh what a chad what's international project are you excited to see the outcome of that one um eiter how about garbage patch cleanup i'm gonna go with that yeah there's actually really cool things there yeah there's another really cool one that we became aware of recently uh they're finding like old sunk uh like ships and they are mapping them and then going down and trying to retrieve the fuel from them yeah no that's cool i've heard of that before yeah not because they like need fuel for ships but it's that way it won't leak out into the ocean a bit of a time bomb yeah yeah yeah that's really cool i want to show this really quick before we keep going i don't know if we showed this earlier but apparently stormgate it's over two million was raised yeah i know you said

they beat their target but like two million versus 100 grand is crazy yeah people are storming the gates to get that game co-op yo yeah i didn't know make games that are games everybody copy this it's good do this make it nice that's so cool just do cool things just play it's a game just make it fun no games have co-op and it's awesome and so does bg3 all these games that i love if you have co-op in your game and it's at least decently fun i'm pretty much gonna get slap shot rebound yeah you know what's fun playing games with your friends yes five five v5 or six v6 i think it supports slap shot rebound is eight oh yeah i think you have to go in the bigger arena but i think you're right yeah it's freaking nuts super fun the potential to find five more friends maybe don't care if it makes the game unbalanced it doesn't matter no one cares i've heard that

example from a bunch of people oh we can't like balance the single player campaign around co-op who cares no one cares you just you just team up and then you just avengers stomp everything you encounter and that's fun yeah just please it's fun games are fun games are supposed to be fun anyways just make them move on from stormgate i'm wildly more excited now that i know it offers co-op that's really cool hi dll i know the lab and the landminton court projects are huge but what is the next step for lmg growth enhancements expansions i love you guys i think the main focus for us is getting the lab uh improving the lab. I mean, it's, it's obvious that we have things to work on, we've had things to work on, we have things to work on with that. I think that it's really clear where we want to get to. And there's a lot of investments and a lot of time that it's going

to take in order to get there. But that's something that i think is probably the most important thing that we are doing right now is building that database that will exist to help just demystify things and make this information that you can pull up at a moment's notice rather than something that you have to sit through a video that clearly none of you want to watch in order to get with city with cities in the uk now increasing parking charges for evs with the reason giving that they have higher lifetime emissions than traditional cars are we starting to see the beginning of the end for evs no what kind of question is that evs are not going anywhere i mean i do hope the plug-in hybrid model sort of takes over um i think it is a better solution for the vast majority with gasoline i don't know that i'm not

convinced but i mean and i with with i mean hydrogen fuel cell if it works as well as it like pie in the sky should it kind of sounds amazing um i still feel like i don't know enough about hydrogen fuel cells to talk about this to be completely honest yeah i know i know enough to know that it's on paper just outstanding because the refueling times are more like gas yeah and the emissions are more like nothing it's super cool absurdly expensive though yeah but it's it's a long way it's a long way away is the biggest issue yeah hey double hey d double hockey sticks have you ever realized in the moment i don't know there's just they're going crazy with the names all of them all of them are like this every single

message is like this hey d double hockey sticks have you ever realized in the moment that you're doing something you'd remember for the rest of your life yes was it uh i'm not going to repeat most of them but i i think it's we have a bleep button i think it's an important thing to do actually not not only in the moment you were doing that you can't say i mean sure how else do we make more people but it's truly a noble goal i was i was thinking more like trash bags and a large carpet and then like a ditch yeah yeah yeah if you're using a condom it's all for nothing yeah linus knows how to replace rubbers now. There's still a percentage chance that it's for something. He's not wrong.

Anyways, I think it's actually very important and valuable to you as a person. Not necessarily even when you're in the exact moment, but when you're in a period of time. When you're like recognizing, I will at some point in time look back at this and think of this as good old days for whatever this activity type of thing is i think it's actually good to recognize that and like bask in the warmth of that to a certain degree um because if you don't i think it's easy to fall into negativity even though you are in a very good time because you're only thinking about the the bad things and allowing yourself to just like actually be like no you know what in a lot of ways this is really great um and i'm gonna be very happy thinking about this in the future is a good thing there's too much negativity in the world i don't take enough candid pictures me neither like

this moment why would i take a picture of this? It's just, it's just, uh, we're, we're walking to or from school or something. It's just Yvonne and our youngest daughter. She's,

she's carrying her for, you know, what might be the last time? Yeah. Right. Like she's getting to the age where you don't know when the last time you carry them somewhere is going to be right um and so i'm trying to think about that stuff more but honestly i'm i'm really bad about it i um we took some pictures when we were at the badminton center

because like i realized that we took no pictures of our Renault when I was trying to pull a cable through conduit. And I was like, yeah, I have no in progress of any of this. And the most fun pictures for me to look back at are always the candid ones. Just like, oh yeah, we had the furniture like that in that room. That means more to me than like... I try to screenshot float plane every once in a while. Yeah.

I have a bunch of historical screenshots of the forum. Things change more than we realize. I think. Yes. I sent the ones I took, uh, to Yvonne because yeah, I took a bunch of reference pictures.

Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. Dan, just what I was laughing at, by the way, was Dan just like slid out from behind and took a photo of us. I thought that would be cute.

Dan, you're always cute feeling cute right now might delete later my screen protector goes over the front of it so it's blurry as hell but that'll be fun yeah um i don't know i i actually genuinely think it's very important um i don't think i've done that enough in my life but it's something i've tried to make an effort to do more so over the last, I'd probably say like three or four years. And there's been a few times where I've even like said it out loud to other people and they're like, what do you mean?

I'm like, I don't know. I feel like we're kind of at a peak with this thing. Not that that's a bad thing, but I think we should like appreciate that and enjoy it while we have whatever this is. And that might be a friend group that like if you have a friend group in high school even if you stay friends with them after high school it's

different it's different you're probably not going to see them very often yeah someone might move away it's not going to be the same someone might be that low percentage even when they do use the thing that they have kids then yep yep uh you might have like a dnd group that you play with eventually that's probably going to end not guaranteed but probably and you should just recognize when you're in the moment like this is fun i like these people this is good this is a good thing that i have i this is yeah i don't know i'm gonna stop ranting about it uh speaking of things that um i'm making memories, remember last week I was trying to point out bannable comments,

and I realized I hadn't really screenshotted any of them. Well, I screenshotted some for the show this week. Here's an example of a comment that will get you a shadow ban. I wonder how mocking the blatantly failing commercial name strategy of Ingredia every 30 seconds helps in any way the consumers understand

what to choose naming choices start sucking more than hell at 4000 series launch and unlaunched not grown better however lmg says we're pro consumers okay fine deliver info stand-up comedian should be for super fun channel ish shadow what are you even talking about yeah i don't know like well actually what are you talking about no idea um yeah so this one's good this is from the land center badminton video at 5 16 i make a comment about how the women's washroom has the natural light because of course the women's washrooms are always nicer what a completely unnecessary comment like if you're so bothered by women having the changing room with nature lighting change it you own the company this is so toxic and not even true to be honest what shadow ban nice you're actually done you have nothing to contribute i've just i've seen

some questions from people like okay is linus just like silencing dissenting opinions no it's just like actual wastes of characters on youtube servers like there's what do you it's a it's like it's a thing you know the women's washroom is always nicer and cleaner and smells better because it just does because they just take care of things like it's, it's just a thing. And the natural... Obviously, I know I could change it. The decision was made that the women's washroom should just be nicer because they're just always nicer. I thought about shadow bands for the people who talked about

the privacy issue of having a window there. I considered it because obviously we're not f***ing stupid. We're going to put security film on it. Come on! Come on, people! but i decided to leave those ones i decided to leave those ones anyway bit by bit i'm cleaning up our comment section and i'm actually noticing a difference yeah good it is a shockingly small number of users contributing to the vast majority of the stupidity in the comment section like a decade ago or something i used to be against that type of stuff but i think in the modern web you just have to yeah i don't think it just is what it is

and i think honestly an argument to the other side is just an argument asking for a bad experience. Yeah, I don't know. How do you know the women's washroom is better, hmm? Sus. Says Azerti32. One of the most mortifying experiences of my adult life was in the library at UBC in university when I just went to the washroom, used the bathroom,

came out to wash my hands. And there was a woman washing her hands at the sink next to me. And I just left without washing my hands, which probably didn't make it better at that point. I just hadn't paid attention. I just walked into the women's washroom. It was pretty bad. I've almost, but never actually done it.

I've gotten up to right in front of the door and then be like, oh, and then switched. Yeah, I've never... Yeah, no, I went in, did it wasn't it wasn't a busy library it was like the it was like the small one it was uh which one was it yvonne and i used to go hang oh yeah and yvonne was there like i i i left and came back and i was like completely red. And so I told her immediately like, okay, don't take this the wrong way, but I just checked out the women's washroom.

Hey, nice washroom. You guys are doing great. Yeah. It wasn't a labeling issue. I just completely spaced 100%. I have to redeem myself at super checks. So we do have to start getting through some of these merch messages at some point. Luke beat me last week and I'm so upset.

Got him. Overtime game five of our five game series. They're really good games. They were really tight games. Hard fought games. What did I win the first two? Or was it one, one, one, one. I know you won the first one.

I think it was. I think you did win the first two and then i came back yeah and he came back and took three in a row yeah because the first game was like really close or something and then the second game was i don't think it was and then i came back i think i don't remember anyway yeah yeah i should have noticed there was no urinal, though. Yeah, people say that, but I don't know. If you're spaced enough, if your head's somewhere else, thinking about somewhere else that you walked into there in the first place, are you going to notice the urinal thing?

I don't know. Yeah. All right. Let's see see what else we got here hello dll with the land center coming soon will we be able to buy ltd merch and other cool stuff from the creator warehouse there thanks for the cool tools uh there'll be some stuff there like i would imagine we'd have water bottles and stuff probably but you might as well have at least like a couple screwdrivers and backpacks screwdrivers and i don't want it to seem weird like it's a badminton pro shop it's not a screwdriver store that makes sense we do want to do a physical location at some point but like i also don't want it to just look like a weird ltt garage sale you know yeah it makes sense um like

i could see like we ltt has uh like uh like athletic pants and stuff like we we would totally have those there but beyond that no i don't think so hey lld what are your thoughts on the apple air tags now that they notify a thief they're being tracked had my ltd backpack stolen last year with one in it and never got my stuff back so i only found out this week that as an android user you can ping any air tag that has been like near your phone recently or something like that so yvonne discovered this she was like yeah i had to use my because i i threw an air tag in her purse because she went through a period a little while there where she was just like leaving it everywhere.

And I was like, okay, well this is getting really inconvenient trying to track down where you put it on the security cameras and stuff. Like she's usually really good about that stuff, but we just, she wasn't getting a lot of sleep and she just kind of like, she left it somewhere like twice within a few weeks or something like that.

And I was like, okay, this needs to stop happening. So I threw an air tag that I happened to have because d brand sent one over for some sponsored something it had a linus meme face on it checked it in her purse and i was like okay well just let me know if you need to find it because and i'll have to grab the utility iphone because neither of us daily drives an iphone and then this was i don't know six months ago or something but earlier this week she goes oh yeah i had to use the AirTag for the first time.

I'm like, what do you mean use the AirTag? How'd you use it? I don't even think you know where my iPhone is. And she's like, oh yeah, no, I just go into this thing and you can see recently connected trackers and just beep them. Like you obviously can't use UW, whatever it is, like the super, super dirt UWB,

I forget what it's called. But you can't just point it and you know to within 30 centimeters or whatever but you can you can ping it and i was like oh okay interesting so it seems like over time apple has gone from sending an occasional notification to you can actually like ping the thing um what i will say is this is true to the intended functionality of the device. It was supposed to be for you to find your own thing that you misplaced. It was really useful for anti-theft. Um, I don't want it to be used for stalking and stuff though, but I understand why these

changes have been made. Yeah. Um, yeah, man, I, I get it it i understand why they had to change it but for the law-abiding citizens it's this is one of those things where the narrow do wells wreck things for everyone if just if nobody used them for stalking totally this wouldn't be a problem and you could just track your personal air tag anywhere you wanted anytime you wanted and it sucks that it has to be like this yeah this is why we can't have nice things de martinis on that same subject that's a great segue um i love this is a great take on um a comment i get a lot hey linus i've been watching since elementary school when you

didn't even have your own channel yet and was always wanting to ask you why you're built funny it's just very strange why i'm built funny like do you mean physically like my build if you'll be taking this so long so many ways i live in your walls why are you so weird i i often make that joke when people walk up to me at a trade show or expo or whatever or they're like i've been watching you for 10 years. And I'm like, really? I didn't see you. It's great.

That's horrible. Have fun with it. I know. I love it. She's it's it's yeah, this is great. Uh, built funny.

Um, I have kind of wide hips for, uh, for a male, for my, for my body type. The fashion team tells me that, um,

robust child birthing hips. It's good than that uh you know i'm kind of short but it's all in my legs my torso is normal so if i wanted to get that like height enhancing uh surgery i would actually look quite proportionally sound okay i can't play sports anymore at all well like i'm sure you at all could do something but they definitely say like is it because the bone structure is not as strong or like what's the reason i would assume that it is not as strong as it used to be and probably it messes up your muscles a little bit but yeah i don't know if you guys know you can recover from both of those if you're short you can like have your legs broken

and then they like pull your bones apart and they brace them and they grow back together or something. It's wild surgery. It's kind of nuts. You won't be able to play sports because you would be too powerful. Here's one for Luke while you go through some of the potentials. What is your favorite... You'll have to throw me. Oh my goodness. Luke, what is your favorite build in slay the spire i always love when a shiv deck can come together with the silent uh that's kind of funny that's one of my favorite

builds in slay the spire uh all my favorite builds are going to be not all the majority of my favorite builds are on the silent the silence my favorite one by far um i would probably say that honestly i prefer poison over shiv but shiv is fantastic um they're both very very good um i find both of those very fun another one that i like is just raging super hard on ironclad and going full strength and just trying to like one to two turn every single combat and if you fail you die that's very entertaining uh so those are my three favorite glass cannon i think that type of thing is called yeah yeah because he's often built as like a block machine so he just like defends like crazy so you just build them in completely the other way which he is also built for but a lot of new players won't go for it you just go strength super hard um yeah hey dll i remember an old ltd video about haunted hardware which had

fraps working on vulcan when it shouldn't have been aside from that what's the weirdest hardware thing you've seen uh recently i wasn't able to play back video on my machine at home it turned out to be i needed to reinstall my amd drivers but even with hardware acceleration disabled it would barely play anything it was super weird i wish i i wish i'd recorded it because it's the kind of thing where you tell people they're like oh yeah but i'm sure it was easily solved no it was not easily solvable everything youtube twitch uh local media players i just couldn't really odd i couldn't play media yeah um i mean i don't know i've seen some weird oh oh my uh my old boot drive for my system one of the reasons that i was like

okay just f**k it let's reformat this thing was that um windows hello will not work i cannot change my password it's it's just like it's just it's just broken i i have a i have a webcam that supports it and on the fresh install it just immediately works the way it's supposed to. But there was some weird authentication thing where I was using a local account, then I was using a work account, and then I was using my Hotmail, and then I was just something, something. It has no idea what's going on. It's completely broken.

I think my most modern example, at the very least, is when we used to do remote calls for the WAN show, um, we used to, I'm talking like within the last, the most recent one that isn't the current one we're using. Uh, we used a system called ping.gg from, from Theo, which was great. Um, he said, I think afterwards, I don't remember. i know he said it afterwards i think he might have said it beforehand as well that it doesn't work on mobile um but when i was in that airport in serbia and i had to call in for the wan show i did it entirely through my phone on mobile and it worked flawlessly the whole time and i remember i told him afterwards and he was like that shouldn't have worked but

yeah it was it was flawless so that was kind of fun it was also really important that it worked at that time so i'm happy that it did oh no uh oh yeah what's your favorite janky cooling video on the channel one of my favorite series favorite janky cooling this one holds a very special place in my heart i don't know why actually because there are other ones that were more fun there were other ones that were more visually interesting like when we used water to cool a heat sink uh like we we used put an air cooler and we just poured water through it or like the fire cooling that hacks heat sink uh like we we used put an air cooler and we just poured water through it or like the fire cooling that hacksmith came out like we've done so many janky cooling things but the computer in the fridge which obviously didn't work because obviously that

won't work uh but i don't know why but this when you ask that question this is the one that stuck out in my mind baby alex building the world's shittiest mold oh my hold on hold on those are the failed attempts just a second oh my god i have not seen this video holy crap i remember this but it's so old so this is it in order to get it mounted to anything uh we basically had to just cut the one oh my god i love this this is it mounted cool the cpu with a channel seems cool i should subscribe um yeah it didn't work at all pretty much it's a complete piece of shit i think alex still has this next to his desk. I would keep that forever. Why wouldn't you?

Yeah. That's beautiful. Amazing memories, man. I love that. Uh, I ran into a lot of issues at my company around poor communication. As someone who is here do you work anywhere yeah as someone who is leading a team are there any ways you have found to combat this

the roles here are all work from home as well oh god please please email us if you know if you find out save us if i knew the answer i'd be writing a book and i wouldn't have to work here anymore yeah if you find out sell it to the world yeah i'm a trillionaire so i think the answer is no communicating with a large group of very different people is extremely hard how people take a certain message is going to be very different depending on who the person is when they receive it all that type of stuff also some people will just not be very interested in reading messages from certain messaging apps. So there might be people that prefer to read messages from something

or another thing or someone who ignores one type of routine email, maybe, that you put information in, but they just don't think it's normally very important to them, so they don't read it moving forward, etc etc etc fun fact on our monday morning meeting notes the first line is actually monday morning media is important you need to read it or something like that and i'm sure i don't remember the wording because uh he doesn't read it because i can't see it anymore because it's always there there's no there's no workaround for that yeah so like i don't know man it's uh it's a big problem and i i think being too angry at your own company about it is not going to get you anywhere because if you leave

that company and go somewhere else you're gonna run into the same problem so have fun is it good to uh yell constantly at your direct manager who sits across the room from you yeah yeah is that help it's a good strat does it make him less stressed i said go for it yeah do it um and that he is powerless to make any changes no i make some he has power yeah don't kid yourself he has power if he's not changing something it's because he doesn't f***ing want to i will continue to yell then no i'm just somewhat fair enough i can make changes um it's just you can't fix communication completely you can make efforts you can try to improve things when someone that

helps a lot yeah if both sides are making an effort you can get a lot done yeah and like part of that is going to be like if if you notice a problem with with some form of communication that's happening voice it make sure that you are also not a communication problem or as much as you can. And just try to understand that it's going to be an issue. Do what you can to mitigate it. Do what you can to improve things. If someone comes to you, I think you mentioned help leading a remote team. If someone comes to you and mentions a communication issue, try to act on it best you can. I find layering is helpful. So, and I don't always do this perfectly. I also have my own

communication issues. Don't get me wrong. Stop it. But try to do it multiple times. So, like, if you say something vocally in a meeting try to have it in text as well um if someone received something through an email uh that that is important yeah they received it but they might just not read that email or something um copy it out put it in another chat uh tag people directly require reactions this is something that uh oh that. Dan... I have adopted that into my entire life and all my dev circles. It's brilliant. Dan from the Labs web team started doing this with his team, and then I copied it in every scenario I possibly could,

which is like when there's a PR, if you see it, you have to react with the eyeballs reaction. And if it's good to go, you have to react with the check eyeballs reaction um and if it's good to go you have to react with the check mark reaction and it just means you have actual good receipts because red doesn't mean anything because notifications are totally broken things get marked as red all the time maybe you open your computer and it's on that message but you're looking for something really quickly so you just immediately click off of it well it just got marked as red you're not going to see it again but if someone goes through the effort to do that reaction you know that they actually saw it so if

it's important enough you can require reactions and then you can check the reactions to see who didn't do it and you can go after them directly to make them read the thing that was a lot nice yeah i love that system actually. Uh, what else? How is the struggle dealing with doing things you love, but also doing it for a living and the livelihood of others? Is it a, is the burden ever too much? It can be exhausting.

Um, like I, I still haven't tried the wireless Vive, uh, Vive, uh, index adapter. I got it plugged in.

It's, it's in. It's charged. It's ready. And I just have been, I've needed some decompression time when I've been at home lately instead of tinkering with tech. Sometimes it's all I want to do. Sometimes it's nice to have a break.

And even though it's, I'm really interested in it and I want to know how it works. I just look at it and I go, right, but before I can do that, I'm want to know how it works i just look at and i go right but before i can do that i'm gonna have to spend an hour just like fighting with it i'm gonna have to take notes while i do it which saps a lot of the joy of the discovery yeah it makes it feel a lot more like work it's tough it's tough i don't i don't have a perfect answer hi linus and team you always say not to pre-order things but what would you say about pre-ordering a framework laptop? I actually did and can't wait receiving it.

I would tell you the same thing I always say. I would say don't pre-order things. If I were to give you a different answer just because I was an investor in the company, then you should never trust anything I say ever again. hey lld has anyone tried to use the s24 ai image search on faces for example linus would it find the ldt store mousepad memes linkedin what about other people with love the guy that luke signed his word 1997 i have not tried it but that actually sounds kind of awesome hello wan.dll first merce matches hold on i'm actually thinking of getting one i really like it i did an unboxing for short circuit that went up today um s24 it looks kind of sick i still hate hole punch cameras but obviously i'm not getting away from that anytime soon um you can with this phone the screen's incredible what phone is that the anti-glare coating on it it's unbelievable what phone do you have dad i have the sony uh one x yeah sony i can't figure out how to move the stupid back button to the right though what it's just like a toggle it is

not toggle it prove them wrong uh-oh fight time it's gonna be my second apple arcade moment of the day it'll be great either that or it'll be dan's first apple arcade moment of the day oh my god he's right yeah ridiculous right why wouldn't they it's it's it's part of like aosp or whatever oh no i can no longer recommend this phone how do they how do they like what the heck? And I get it. Some people like the back button on the left. That's nice.

I love that you like the back button on the left, but it is, it is as far as I can tell, just like a toggle, the developer of the Android skin can just enable. It's absolutely part of the top level. I don't think I use it. I think I swipe from the side all the time. Yeah, that's fine. I don't like gesture. And I like three button and I like the back button on the left.

And I'm not going to tell you guys not to like your ways just like I will not allow a phone manufacturer to tell me that I'm not allowed to like my way. If I want the back button on the right, then I want the f***ing back button on the right. Wow, okay. No, I'm never recommending this phone to anyone again. No, Luke, you don't understand.

That's actually enough for me. No, I believe you. I am insane. At this point, I've worked with him for a while. I fully believe that. Yeah. No questions there at all. Don't buy a Sony ever again.

The back buttons. Dan, would you recommend that people work at linus media group oh uh do are you the kind of person anybody out there are you the kind of person that would own a porsche like linus and change the blades of your wiper blades just for the principle of doing it if you are then i think you're you're going to fit into the team here okay so a conditional yes a conditional yes if if that honestly makes sense if not giving the user the right for a risk like it's part of android but the basic thing to be able to switch the buttons if that was something that somebody had to develop for or like you know touchwiz doesn't support it so you do your own launcher then all right fine

you know uh but for just just not turn on a knob like it took efforts to probably disable that yeah in my opinion bothers me so much man and if it's not in the debug or anything like that, like, God damn. I mean, I actually hate, for me, like, I like when Android 11... Now you got me fucking... Now you got me ranting. I'm angry, man. Oh, God, I almost said it twice. Everything on Android is giant now. All of the buttons are huge.

All, like, the clock. This screen has the highest pixels per inch of any phone on the market and how's that information density 660 pixels per inch can use of that density i can't because android is garbage i hate it abacus give me an abacus i'm going to the forest i I'm going to live with the forest things. Yeah. See you later, Dan. Bye.

What the fuck is this show? I still don't know. My meds are off now. I've been hosting it for over a decade, Luke, and I still don't know what it is. There's no more faux quest i'm gonna go i'm gonna go write an app to switch those switch those buttons it like intercepts your input moves yeah oh geez geez hello

when dll first first time merch message. I'm so sorry, man. What are some of the most cool or unusual pieces of tech you've seen put into a PC case? For example, I saw someone put a discreet car stereo into one ages ago. Back in the old days, people used to put all kinds of wild things in the front of the five and a quarter inch bay.

The cigarette lighter. Yeah. Wow, that really shouldn't be there yeah you shouldn't smoke around your computer the the amount of like cigarette smoke tar that i've had to try to remove from computers over the years like just stop yeah go smoke goes right into the intake fan because that's how fans work yeah that's a good answer last one am i curated we basically use an apple tv as a coaster with all the smart tvs so i'm curious what is the most expensive piece of tech the company or employees

have that does not get used as intended at all i mean i did my thing on that super expensive circulation fan last week so i won't talk about that i could talk about our 3d printers man the kinds of things that i've seen people using 3D printers for internally. We do a lot of really good things with them, prototyping products and, you know, creating holders for our slates and pens for the sets and all kinds of very useful things. But one stood out to me, and this was for a LAN event of some sort. We apparently 3D printed a gigantic batch of trophies and i was sitting there going these are the most generic trophies that could ever have existed could we have bought

these for like a dollar could we have bought these at the dollar store and the answer is often yes and it happens all the time we will design something that is actually available at dollarama we'll put the insert we didn't design the trophies oh they just downloaded file we did not design the trophy i've seen things get designed unfortunately you have to design yeah that's what i thought we we designed i think more than once a like holder for a computer for our barcode scanner station he's talking about me right when i was like guys you know the microsoft surface exists you know there's one in inventory right now. It has a kickstand built into it. Just use that. And that's the stuff he complains about. Actually very reasonable, but also not.

Okay, yeah, that's it. I'm done. I hope that rhino isn't 3d printed the rhino no that is uh that is ceramic yeah i hope we didn't pay for that ceramic rhino i'm sure we did i'm sure we did i hate man i hate how much just like knickknacks cost drives me crazy that thing does nothing table balls if it cost more than two dollars it was a waste of money where do you think it was from? If you had to guess, I hope it's from value village and I hope some other way to get paid $200 for it.

And I paid $2 for it. Ceramic. What were you saying ages ago with a super expensive table balls? Uh, what about them? I was just saying, I hate that. There was a whole rant months ago about yeah just i think it was

just basically this like like knickknacks it drives me crazy how much they cost oh was it the bit about how i think the whole thing is just a conspiracy where designers um buy this stuff because they get a commission bait for for the project based on how much they spend total so they'll just pad it with like stupid line item things that are like just an overpriced glass ball that they spend four hundred dollars on so they make 40 bucks i'm not sure because we used to know like one of those interior designers oh and some of this stuff just is like expensive i mean the thing is you go to like home sense or something

like that and it's an 80 table ball okay but like this interior designer was like well we went to an artisan who would craft a table ball and it'd be like 300 bucks sure i mean it's not like i don't understand that things are expensive i mean you're talking to the person who made a solid gold xbox controller i get it yeah but that's a little bit different than like a knickknack that's an art piece if you want to think about it that way i think of it as more of an investment i don't think of it as i made a solid gold xbox controller i think of it as i bought some gold so that's my justification for that as for like the artisan table ball made of glass or whatever i don't know about you guys i couldn't justify it i couldn't find this rhino, but I did find a $6,000 rhino.

Oh my God. How tall is that? It's 24 inches tall. It's like, what? Is that four feet long? It's by France. By France? Good job, country.

Yeah, what the heck? Let's go up. Cursor up. Here, right? Up right up up left oh wow by france yeah france france made it good job france look at the other i love it what is this oh it's eight thousand dollars what is that i had a wow all right so this is the type of stuff that they would put in your house i had a blast um there is a there's a second hand shop okay someone at a partner sent me this couch brand that they were like man it'll change your life you sit on this couch you're never going to want to sit on any other couch and i'm like knowing you um this couch is stupid 10 grand or something

like you're not even close, dude. 40 grand? Probably closer to that range. Anyway, this couch company is so far up their own ass. They already look like it. The store in Vancouver, the store in Vancouver, Luke,

does not have a sign on it. Ah, yep. If you don't know where it is and who they are. Oh, I've been to this store. You don't deserve to be there. Anyway, so. That looks very comfortable to say that.

They had like a $12,000 beanbag. Yeah. I think it was hand-knit or something. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Anyway, the point is not this. The point is that I went there for fun because there's no way that I would spend that kind of money on any couch. It could give you an orgasm every time you sit on it, and I wouldn't buy it.

There's other ways to get that, and they're cheaper. But I went there just to check it out, to humor my... Questionable reusability factor. To humor my contact. Also the danger of the cheaper ones. Yeah. The number of people that say laundering when they see stuff like this,'s like no no that is actually just their business it's not everything is money laundering it's just like how people just cry like tax write-off no it's not how that works

anyway um so i went just to just to just to know what a couch that costs as much as a whole ass vehicle. A new one. Yeah. Would be like, really nice couch. Great couch. It looks very comfy. But what I had the most fun with was actually the secondhand store a few doors down. Okay.

If you're telling me I can get that comfy of a couch there for cheap, I'd be happy. While I was there... Hold on. Or is this one of those crazy expensive second-hand stores? It was a second-hand store for things like those couches. Okay. Yeah. While I was there, I found this. I'm excited it's a lamp

okay in the shape of a horse alright it costs I can't see the book 6,500 euros euros and it is

oh my god how are their pictures so bad hold on 95 how are these their only pictures you don't need to see it you do need to see it it's the size of a horse oh wow it is it is a horse-sized so you. So you also have... Where the fuck would you put this? Well, you also have an enormous mansion that you need to fill with things. I guess so. I would... If I owned this,

I would put it at the bottom of my pool. Just because you can? Yeah. I mean, that would be reasonable. You can scuba dive inspect your nine thousand dollar horse lamp five-year warranty though nice oh man sweet yeah so it weighs 120 kilograms so that's about 250 pounds whoa it is 2.25 meters high so that's about seven feet it's enormous man this place just for a trip go on a date go down to chinatown okay get some food yeah go with the missus just go hang out in this store

for a bit hey do you want to see how certain people live just play the how much do you think this cost game and you just like keep score bring a little notepad and then play prices right rules and see if you guys can just just to have some fun it's actually fun it's a blast so i think the hundred gex song is just about that lamp so uh to give you some idea of where it is um yeah it's it's definitely it's definitely it's kind of uh east of chinatown southeast of gastown uh and it's called oh man no that's not it might be i think it's this one um oh no this might not be it this one's in the heart of an upstate yes yes yes yes here it is here it is okay i've got it

it's called carriage house affordable luxury yeah that horse was like half price uh if i was if i was more of an idiot i'd be like wow what a deal and i would buy it um so they are vancouver's premier luxury furniture store which is not actually quite right because they're actually this an upscale consignment boutique so if you're not familiar with consignment basically you drop off your thing and then the price goes down down down down down down down down the store handles this for you until it sells and then they keep some percentage and they give you some percentage so obviously uh it's in their interest to curate the items in the store to make sure they're offering a variety and it's in your

interest to have it sell presumably at the highest price possible so it's almost like a reverse auction where it starts high and then goes low low low low low until it sells or until i think you like come back and get it so it's kind of like a classy pawn shop um man it's just that horse would be a great way to get people in the door freaking wild though dude like i don't know we should we should get that horse and put it in the lobby these lamps aren't that bad i mean more than i would spend on a lamp ralph lauren lamp why is there a ralph lauren lamp i don't know because it doesn't look good i don't know it looks like someone put a lamp head on like a tripod

like it looks like it has the three legs connecting. $900. Here you go. Like a camera tripod. That doesn't look good. Well, you get two though. They're half price. Yeah, two.

But like I'm not even trying to, like if that was $15, I'd be like that's an unattractive lamp. Okay, show me a lamp that you think looks good. I don't know. Google lamp and you'll probably find better looking lamps than these. Let me Google lamp. What a hater hey i immediately found multiple better looking lamps and i haven't even like clicked in on it like what do you mean yeah there's a christy projector lamp who doesn't like that a bunch of these look super cool

they're also really expensive these are very lighting is flipping lighting is really expensive they know where you've been shopping for the last five minutes. Also probably that. That's probably a thing. But here we go. Look. This is a cheap lamp. That looks cool.

It doesn't have enough animals in it. It's not a horse. It needs more tessellation. I only like things that are tessellated like it's not a horse it means more tessellation i like things that are tessellated like it's 2009 so you'll know that i've completely gone off the rails when i own that horse lamp that's your that's your uh canary in the coal mine yeah is you buying that horse lamp yeah what if we 3d printed you lost it i'm looking at some very large format 3d printers why uh obviously for content okay four feet tall yeah i'm into it yeah we could do we could do a minute we could do a shetland

lamp oh my goodness um i'm 3d printing a horse okay the last merch message is uh when dll what was the hardest decision to make in 2023 that in hindsight should have been simple um letting the wan show go for four hours at a time it's just so obvious now how long has the show gone on today four and a half hours all right how was it get the how was it so short before i don't know what did we even do differently i don't know you spent an hour and a half on the first topic well way to go dan yeah it's dan's fault yeah technically look what you've done yeah i regret nothing we'll see you again next nothing same bad time same bad channel bye nothing We'll see you again next week. Nothing! Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye! Nothing! Nothing!

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