The WAN Show - LTT Released 3rd Party Investigation Summary - WAN Show May 24, 2024

Episode Date: May 25, 2024

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show we've got a great show lined up for you guys this week google's ai overviews feature launched and is doing all kinds of wacky things citing the onion recommending the health benefits of drinking urine um good job google uh in other news spotify bricks its thing which is going to make a lot more sense to you if you know what the thing is which we will cover later what else we got today ltt released third-party investigation summary and the arm windows revolution might come packed with a privacy nightmare oh yeah that's going to be very interesting we'll talk about that do i need to oh okay the land show is brought to you by ridge acronis mo End, and our new WAN Show partner, Secret Lab. We've been sitting on their chairs for years, so it just made sense. Check them out at the link in the video description.

To start us off, we've got the LTT release third-party investigation summary. LMG committed to releasing the results when this whole thing started, and they did so by posting it on X, formerly known as Twitter. The W wan show is not the place to discuss hr matters so we won't be talking about it here go check it out yourself if you are interested i also need to note that any comments in live chat or merch messages about this topic will just be ignored and any bullying or harassment of any involved party could result in consequences including a permanent ban so let's just not but let us continue on with the show yeah do you want to jump right into spotify bricking its thing yeah okay so first

of all i had completely forgotten about the car thing yes okay so it's an accessory forget about it i never knew it existed slash infotainment device and the idea was to be able to have Spotify in a car that doesn't have Android Auto or doesn't have CarPlay, or maybe you just don't feel like using Android Auto or CarPlay, and you just wanted this dedicated device to connect to Spotify.

And what's kind of cool about it is that people weren't just using it in their cars. I saw, was it Snoozy Loads? I don't know, it was someone. Someone on the internet said that they kind of used it in their workshop don't know it was someone uh someone on the internet um said that they kind of used it in their workshop but basically it was just an interface that allowed you to interface with spotify um it was invite only and it was launched in april of 2021 and then launched publicly in february of 2022 for 90 it was then pulled from sale just five months later meaning that

many devices many users who own these devices have had them for less than two years and nobody who has one has had it for more than about three years now just this week, Spotify, okay, hold on. First of all, Spotify began noticing people that, began notifying people that the car thing will be discontinued as of December 9th of this year, and it will be rendered completely inoperable. So not only are they discontinuing it, they're actually going, okay, this is the date. This is the hard date. Throw it in the garbage. It gets better.

I mean, worse. Sorry, worse. That was a verbal typo. It gets worse. Spotify is neither offering a refund nor is it even offering a store f***ing credit. It is basically going, hey hey thanks for your 90 dollars we hope you enjoyed the limited amount of time that you had to own that product that we i don't

know i guess this is now a retroactive lease agreement um i think you might have basically just specified this but when was the last what like when people someone have ordered it the same day that it was discontinued no people could have ordered this as recently as march april may june july as recently as the summer of 2022 okay so a little less than two years ago that's wild though i don't get it i don't understand why like i i could understand saying like okay we're going to end of life this thing it's not going to receive updates but it would probably keep working for a pretty considerable amount of time well yes and no because whatever whatever api hooks it might rely on maybe it doesn't and i

mean this is a funny one to me because it is mind-blowing to me my understanding and guys correct me if i'm wrong here my understanding is that it's it's just like an android-based pretty simple thing um so from my point of view i don't really see the reason why this wouldn't have just been like running the Android app in the background and the interface wouldn't have just been the same as any other device. In which case to Luke's point, there's no reason it couldn't just keep working for a very long period of time.

Kind of like when pebble stopped getting updates to the app. Yeah, dude, that worked for years. They didn't actually kill it. Yeah. They didn't actively shut it down. Yeah.

Um, people are trying to sell them. I'm finding uh like ebay.ca people are trying to sell so the only reason i can think of for them to actively kill it right now would be if they created some kind of custom back end or custom interface for it to interact with and this is something that maybe you can explain to me okay because i don't understand it when i read comments in the youtube creator studio app they are yeah you've talked to me about yeah i've talked to you about this okay they are not the same as the ones that are publicly accessible okay so example, if I sort by newest, the Creator Studio app

will be like missing a bunch of them. And if I go sort by newest on the live site, they're all there. There's more of them there. Why the ever-loving f**k do they have two databases of the comments on this video?

No, no, no, no, no. Hold hold on hold on that stop typing stop typing stop typing now they're typing yeah i know what they're typing too okay youtube is a massive service that has people accessing it from all over the world it operates at a scale that is barely imaginable to the lay person they absolutely have geo-replicated servers running their services i get it that's not what this is i don't i don't think it's and i know this i know this for a fact it's it's i'm hooking into a separate for whatever reason that i can't possibly fathom it is it is a sub it's a subset why why would you redo work help me well i don't i don't think they did redo work um i don't think they're pulling from two different data sets um i'm not necessarily sure what's going on it doesn't make a ton of sense to me but i don't

know how the thing is built and i mean this isn't this isn't my actual job either so i'm sure developers out there could give a better answer but to me it feels like you have two you have probably two different front-end solutions pulling in different ways pulling at different times um why the creator one like you're saying it doesn't have ones that are on the live one that feels almost backwards to me yeah i would feel like the creator one would pull like more frequently you would think that that's what i would think so the fact that it works the other way around feels weird to me yeah i don't know i i can't fully explain it personally okay personally i if i was building this thing i would expect them to act identically well yeah i can understand how there would be two

different entire teams like the the team that works on the youtube studio app is probably a team of people that is completely different but why are they doing anything other than tapping into the same api why so they could but they could in a different way okay why are they doing anything other than tapping into the same API? Why? So they could, but they could in a different way. Okay, why? Maybe they pull comments less frequently, whatever else. But why? They probably don't talk to each other, so they don't necessarily know how the other team's doing it.

I would think that there would be some form of standardized thing, but I have no idea. I haven't worked at a company in that scale. And it just doesn't make sense to me at all. So I'm trying to make assumptions about something that I don't get how it would become that way. Yeah, it's a baffling thing, dude. I think it's teams not directly communicating with each other, accessing the same repository, but in different ways. And that's creating a frustrating

experience and there was another discrepancy that i found a while back that just completely broke my brain i'm gonna i'm gonna see if i can pull it up because i i sent it to our youtube rep who is a wonderful human being and one of my favoritest persons that i've ever had the pleasure of dealing with that uh at a tech company um oh this is a funny one might only be the same repo separate i don't know all right um anyway what is what is the oh yeah yeah here we go here we go so i sent a follow-up in uh in march uh so a couple of months ago um creator studio mobile app shows 98 replies on this thread uh second screenshot

is showing everything that shows up when i scroll all the way down come on folks uh so you can have a look at my screenshots here this is the creator app. So it even managed to log the number of replies there are supposed to be. Okay. And this is, Oh, dang it. Uh, great.

Here we go. And then here is everything that comes up. That's all of them. That's every reply. There is no more room to scroll. It's like eight. And when I accessed it publicly, because the reason, the reason that i was

that i was drawn to this one in particular was because i had replied to it so i replied to it and i was checking i was checking in on replies to my reply because it was an active conversation i not only can only see these eight responses i can't see my own fucking message when had you had said are those is there a time thing so are all those messages from before a certain period of time this is this is what a decent amount of my theory is so i think those messages are yeah i think it is truncated here but what i can't imagine is any reason why yeah i don't know i just i think i think that whatever's pulling it is not happening at the same rate that it happens on the live no because i could go back ages later and they still wouldn't be there oh yeah yeah so this this is this is the

kind of stuff you guys think you got your new youtube interface and you're all mad about that guys that is the least of their problems they can't even figure out how many comments are in it are in a chain like man i i remembered i remember talking to someone someone at youtube about this years ago i was like look if you guys want to be a social media platform you could be you could be the biggest social media platform like practically overnight but you've got to deal with comments you've got to deal with user to user interaction because it's it's a cluster bomb right now and to their credit they've done a lot with respect to um with respect to moderation automatic moderation of like um bots and stuff like that it's not perfect but it's so much better than it was a year or two ago but the fact that they don't have like

i can't imagine people aren't posting like ascii tanks anymore but there sure is a lot of others there's a lot less porn spam a lot less like way less and it's far less overt there's no more whatsapp numbers and usernames they have they have cut down on a look what i'm seeing a ton of and i'm seeing this ubiquitously on every video on the platform is amazon's groundbreaking new cryptocurrency i haven't actually seen a lot of those lately either sorry um is is replies that look extremely real and then you look at the little photo yep and you're like i still come across a lot of those but i see those all the time

dude what's even the point of those those have got to perform a lot worse yeah those can't be that effective so in terms of cutting down on the if i wouldn't be too surprised if there are some but those comments a lot of the time users clicking on profiles hoping sure look we can acknowledge the improvement work they wouldn't do it but we can acknowledge the improvement they don't do it as much yes not even close it's improved so the names needing to not be like phone numbers and whatsapp ids and stuff that's a big improvement okay so i know that it's been at least a conversation i don't know internally at google but but externally to google sure for years that what they should be doing is they should be doing

like a more of a reddit style upvoting and downvoting system if they really want to improve comment quality and do they not is there not can you not downvote you can upvote and downvote but what you can't have is conversation uh threads within a parent comment okay so you can't have like multiple branches off of of a that actually gets pretty confusing when people are replying to each other within that does get confused so so this ended up on speaking of reddit this ended up on the ltt subreddit when i replied to someone on the um the pool cleaning robot video and and people started kind of saying why this is super aggressive and defensive here?

When they thought I was replying to the parent comment. But what I was actually replying to was one of the comments that was a sub-comment under it by the original poster. So because I added them, the assumption was that it was replying to the parent comment, but it wasn't i was i was directly addressing things that they had said and when some people noticed and were like

um actually people were like oh what he said makes way more sense because he was actually replying to a completely different comment but it gets even better and this is this is where i'm going with this uh tying back to the mobile app when i sort by newest i can't see if a comment is a parent or child comment so i never even knew that the original post existed i replied directly to their reply to their own comment not knowing that it was a child comment rather than a parent comment so when i saw some of the backlash to what i said i was completely thrown for a loop i was like oh youtube youtube youtube but we can't live with you we can't live without you hey thanks for this career um anywho spotify what should they do what can they do to make this right

because i mean it's not going to do us any good to just say oh yeah spotify bad people i hate them forever what what can they do now some amount of store credit would probably be good at the very is that enough um how much it was a 90 device this is not a cheap this is not some throwaway meme product this is something people bought for nearly a hundred us dollars i mean probably a hundred bucks by the time they pay for shipping for it i don't know if they free shipped it but whatever in the neighborhood of a hundred us dollars that's not like meme i bought it at the dollar store money yeah um i don't know you have to be able to stop supporting things eventually yeah that's a really good point and and whatever reason they did it for the way it interfaces with spotify is not in

a generic way that will continue to work until some unforeseeable time in the future so yeah you've got to be able to discontinue stuff but like this clearly isn't right too early um they did stop selling it what a year and a half ago so that's good you should probably i believe you should give it more legs than that um and then i mean it isn't turning off for another seven months so it will have been two and a half years by the time it actually turns off. In my opinion, you should never really like deactivate things. Just let them rot eventually. I don't know.

I'd want to see. I don't think you're going to be able to allow like my brain wants to is thinking about like when when games shut down we always ask them like oh make it so other people can i don't think that's necessarily going to be able to happen because this isn't like you probably can't like plug a usb into this thing and like reprogram it i mean easily if it's if it is is it android based does anyone know because if it is then you almost certainly i've never seen one i mean so i could be wrong you 100 can't okay well then they should do that yeah but i mean and look it's linux based why don't they do that okay people just do that anyways can i make an argument hold on hold on hold on it's hackable wait one second i know but we're gonna get there we're

gonna get give me a second all right i. I can understand. I was hanging out with, I was having a good time. I know that. We were vibing. I know. That's why I took it away. I just hate seeing joy on your face. I, um, I can understand why they might not necessarily be able to do that. There may be intellectual property concerns in the code, right? Oh yeah.

Okay. There could be. Okay okay there could be okay there could be okay however i think at the very least some kind of nudge nudge or facilitation for the open source community to to to take it over is in order here i understand why legal might not have allowed it but i hate this this is such a terrible precedent it's such a terrible way of behaving as a company that it almost doesn't really matter what the legal advice was you've got to find a way to do the right thing yeah and the right thing is obviously to make it able to continue to work and the very very least they could have done is to not actively brick it so apparently people have already done a usb unlock of it there's already a jailbreak yes what i think would be

pretty sick in my opinion there's apparently a subreddit already i love it car thing hacks nice uh what i think would be pretty sick is if they if they gave some spotify developer time to the open source project i think that would be that would be such even if they're still gonna shut it down in december or whatever i think that would be such a a good faith good guy move that people would be willing to look past a lot of the crappiness of this situation. It's not great.

It hasn't been conducted great so far and they can't commit to, I'm just going to defend them slightly. They can't commit to this forever. No, you can't support something forever, but if they're like, that's the problem with smart devices. That's why I didn't buy that,

that floor cleaning robot, because I told you about that conversation right where i was like okay but what happens if you go bankrupt does it operate without your cloud thing and they're like well yeah it's not going to go away i'm like right but if it does what happens is it a brick well yeah but we're doing great we're not going to go away you're an idiot i'm not gonna buy it was like $18,000 or something like that I'm not gonna spend that kind of money

on something that just turns off a lot of things like that like infrastructure like that is gonna be in deployment for the entire

existence of that building I could expect that robot to work for 25 years I don't think I don't know even if your company doesn't go under you could get acquired

by someone who doesn't give two shits about floor cleaning robots maybe they wanna use use your your automated pathfinding technology for a military application or something i don't care about my stupid badminton building yeah see you later you never know you don't know yeah but so i yeah i think i think that would actually be very cool is if spotify software developers spotify software engineers were given a little bit of time, it has to be limited. It's not going to be able to be a ton. They're discontinuing this for a reason.

But a decent amount of time, enough time to make a really solid contribution to the open source project. Don't take it over. Don't have anyone become leads on it or anything but try to contribute really heavily and get it to a point where the open source community is like pretty stoked on it and then just let them have it and leave and that's not like a happy ending but it's a neat ending i don't think it's that kind of device i mean i'm sure in open source that does exist I'm sure it does too

alright oh man what is our next topic going to be imagine the fact that he can't even get it out this is not a good sign he's never had this problem i haven't been canceled in a while just imagine being like yeah you know what this isn't good

enough i need i need to push contributing code imagine like just having that thought open source open legs i need some people to test this one push the contributing code then you gotta pull it i'm on the alpha version of the the new thing i don't need to really access all the features works with android 15 oh man all righty you want to pick our next topic yeah yeah yeah should we do our new channel yeah actually i want to i want to see like because i think a lot of people don't know that it's live i want to see comments live of what people think of like the voice and stuff because it's a relatively short video so people could go watch it i mean it's our own video we can watch it yeah

we can react to our own video dang it do that we can do that it's the internet it's it's online it's it's brought to you by um a secret lab secret yeah there's their logo sure whatever that one's not even legible yeah way to go luke oh what a guy it's obviously my fault um all right i've got i've got it loaded up dan are they able to hear if i if i do stuff why don't i do a couple pings you can make sure my audio is working yeah i can see that coming through it's here folks i'm just gonna play it for you we're gonna watch it together and we're gonna talk about how it came to be can we hear that's the question uh i mean luke and i have listened to it but okay or whatever hopefully we can, but yeah. Yeah, it'd be nice.

I'll see what I can do. Okay. I don't hear it now. All right. Linus Lapp. That's what the button says. Okay. What?

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all of the following testing at an ambient temperature of 20 degrees Celsius. The full test suite, including tests at extended temperature ranges, is available on the lab's website linked in the description. But before we get to the results, here's a message from our sponsor. The Corsair RM750e carries an 80-plus gold rating, and we measured 90% efficiency at 50% of its maximum rated load. That's equivalent to power supplies in a similar class. Throughout the full rated output power range of 750 watts, there was a 0.162 volts drop on the 12-volt rail, which is within ATX specifications and similar to most other power supplies we've

tested. The rest of the output rails met ATX specifications. This stability should provide a steady platform for the operation of other components in the computer. The peak-to-peak signal ripple of the fully loaded power supply's 12-volt rail was average for its price and wattage at 31 millivolts. The 5-volt and 3.3-volt rails had signal ripple of 17 millivolts and 21 millivolts, respectively. Modern power supplies typically have no issue complying with atx ripple stacks and this unit is no different we test the power supplies resilience to momentary power dropouts and ripples using our brownout test that interrupts the input power for

a few milliseconds this allows us to measure how long of a power dropout the sample can sustain without interrupting the output power the corsairorsair RM750E was measured to withstand 13 milliseconds and 14 milliseconds dropout at full rated load for 115 volt and 230 volt inputs respectively. This unit performs similarly to other power supplies. The excursion test momentarily applies up to 200% of the rated load to test a power supply's ability to support components that may temporarily require more than their rated current the corsair rm750e withstood a subset of the excursions but failed with others it's compatible with most systems but may struggle with high-end hardware connecting the corsair rm750E is equipped with the protections as listed,

providing the full suite of protections for you and your equipment. We measured the overpower protection to engage in a maximum of 131% of rated load, while the 12-volt rail alone is capable of 81 amps, 130% of its rating. This is equivalent to similarly rated power supplies offering good protection against component faults, while also allowing the power draw to slightly exceed the official rating. We can recommend the Corsair RM750E because of its good load and line regulation and resilience to cross loads. For full specifications and test results, follow the link to the product page on the LTT Labs website. All right, so let's talk about it. I jotted down some notes from chat while we were going

um so a couple of these i think i can just answer immediately a couple of these maybe become discussion uh one of them is voice too slow in that case in my opinion just adjust the video playback speed you know it's funny because i actually saw some comments saying that it was too fast on full plane adjust the video playback speed yeah like not too fast someone said that normally they watch at one and a half speed and they had to slow this one down to to 1x interesting so it's going to depend on your familiarity with the subject material i think i suspect people are saying like the voice cadence is off and stuff that'll improve over time um considering where we started it's way better the first time we previewed this was probably about three or four months ago something like that

man this is this is a big improvement so it will consistently improve some comments that i saw were like it's not taking uh like breaks to breathe i mean it doesn't breathe so that makes sense i heard a breath though i heard it take a breath did you really it's irritating yeah it has a breath yeah it doesn't like pause like there's the sentence pauses are not yeah it doesn't run out of air yeah i noticed that as well yeah um so like stuff like that'll be improved over time yep um someone said i'd stop watching. That's completely fine. One of the reasons why people have been asking why we chose AI Voice for this,

because these aren't going to make any money at all. Well, it's not just that. These are not going to get any views. Which is why that's going to be a thing. Which is why they're not going to drive any revenue. And I suspect watch time isn't necessarily going to be amazing. Stuff like that. There's,

there's comments like I'd stop watching, not enough emotion, stuff like that. That's fine. It's not supposed to be hyped up, really exciting, interesting content to watch. It's supposed to be like,

I am interested in purchasing this product. I would like a very on the point information, heavy cookie cutter video third party validated give me the information and then if you're interested in diving into more because you saw one part that you found is interesting then you can jump to the labs website and get more info there it's not it's that i don't suspect unless you're like i really freaking love power supplies dude um i don't expect you're going to watch every video on this channel i i suspect the subscriber conversion for a channel like this

is not going to be super high but if this was back in the day and i was building computers this is the exact type of stuff i would have tried to find because this is why i would look at content on youtube was because i wanted to see video of the thing out of the box that was like a hundred percent what i was looking for i didn't care about the unboxing experience i wanted to see the thing after it was out of the box and to verify some assumptions i was making and there's going to be people that are going to watch a lot of videos on the channel sure but they're not going to subscribe for entertainment unless maybe they work in the industry like if i if my if my job was procurement at a system integrator and i was just like totally oh well this is convenient if these guys are just going

to test every power supply and i can just get a notification on my phone so i can make sure that i'm keeping up with with what's good because it's like my job absolutely i could see someone subscribing but for the average builder who's putting together a system for you know their roommate this quarter and you know doing something for their sister six months later you're not going to subscribe to it but it's very likely you'll watch one of them or you'll or you know what like we haven't given much thought to playlists i guess i just it just popped into my head maybe maybe bell uh dick belevance is the channel manager for this but yeah um i don't think we've given a ton of thought to that yet but uh you know something that would be cool is if we had playlists that are like at various wattage ranges or playlists that are at various price points

price points will be tough because they're going to change so unless we had a way to unless there's a way to like hook into youtube's API and, and manage your playlists automatically or something like that, based on, you know, pulling real-time pricing information or something. I don't think we'll be able to do by price, but if we could do it by wattage range, for example, then that would be a really cool way to go through the channel and basically go, okay, out of 500 watt power supplies. Okay. I want to learn about some of these. Of course I understand. And this is, this is a comment that I saw uh i guess it was over on over on float plane where someone was like this doesn't see or maybe it's on maybe it's on twitter um this

doesn't seem to add a lot compared to reading an article you are right the correct format for a power supply one pager is a page yeah not a video but what we have to recognize is the realities that exist in the techosphere in the media sphere that have made it so that this abomination is now how you will find out about the the testing data of a power supply viewer habits have changed to video the money that used to be in written media is a fund is functionally gone compared to how it was in the in the you know early to mid to even late 2000s will not read something people will not read something and even if they did that site that writes that thing that no one's reading would have an extremely difficult time surviving so the equipment that's involved in this and the

personnel that's involved in this um is is so expensive i just don't see a path where you could do this testing in a written format unless unless it was you know like to my point earlier about being very interesting to people who are in the industry unless it was like a paid subscription or something like that but that's not where we want to go at least with the basics of is this thing okay to buy what kind of computer can it power what kind of do its safety protections actually work like that's not something that we want to pay well um i do think that there could be more detailed testing data that might only really be useful to you know people who are going okay can we procure uh you know thousands of these for our systems for next quarter or something like that and okay an example of that or like i have

an extremely particular type of load that i need to put on this sure um in the long term you know i could see us scaling up the number of those chroma testing units that we have and we could go okay yeah i mean or even do like paid testing yeah we'll we'll test 10 instead of just one we'll test 10 we'll run your suite on it whatever yeah or whatever the case may be so in in the in the long term there's all kinds of different directions that we can go with it but the reality is if we want this content to exist we've got to go where the reader is and the reader is now watching in video form um so and how many people that's a big question mark right is one of the answers we were trying to

find when we were working on the concept for this channel because this channel exists because we want to make it we want this information to be available but one of the things that we had to figure out is okay how do we make this self-sufficient it's not the question wasn't even how do we make money the question was how do we make this make any sense um because don't kid yourself this is a creative company we're a media organization if you don't think that there were some misgivings internally around ai voice for example oh yeah come on guys there were absolutely misgivings but the way that we're looking at it and the way that we've messaged it internally is look this is not replacing human intervention a human developed this test suite and a human needs to test this

power supply by the time we do that i'm sorry but there isn't for the for the two to four thousand views we're going to get on this video there just isn't any budget for the the media side of things and in the long term i want that to change i would love for that to change i would love for every look i would love in the longer term for us to be able to count on a hundred thousand or two hundred thousand views per video and for us to go okay let's scale it up like why are why are we doing this all cookie cutter now now that we've got this kind of momentum um but i don't know if it'll ever get there if it starts performing like that sure i just i don't see it happening personally well maybe i i see it happening in spikes like i i suspect if some

like flagship gpu comes out and we have a gpu equivalent of power supply circuit so i'm making multiple assumptions here um it could be a banger but i think the day-to-day releases of that channel are not going to be able to and you might be right and see i i'd be happy to be wrong but like one of the one of the kind of tough conversations that i had to have with someone who um to their credit approached me about it sure approached me with the concerns, right? Like, that's what we want. So they approached me with the concerns and they basically went, look, I have serious ethical concerns.

I have serious creative concerns. I don't understand who this is for. Help explain it to me. I basically went, okay, here's the situation. We went and we looked at the very few channels that are left that are even trying to do dedicated videos on power on, on an individual power supply skew. Um, we are expecting at the very best at the very, very possible best somewhere in the neighborhood of like 5,000 to 10,000 views on average for each of these videos.

That puts our budget somewhere in the neighborhood of $10 to $25. What would you have me do? I want people to have this information. I need to get it to them in video form. My options are either that I outsource to some place where I can pay like slave labor wages, which we have never done and I have never been comfortable with, or we pay proper wages to the testers, to the people who are working on creating this data. We try to find a way to scale that from, you know,

10 to 25 bucks to maybe we can scrape together some affiliate revenue to make sure that this is sustainable in that form. And we lean on automated tools as much as we have to to make this even remotely have a chance. And they kind of went, well, i hope the voice can be better and at least it is at least it's better than it was it's a lot better in my opinion and and i i do like i said earlier i suspect there will be continual improvement there i just i one thing that i disliked a lot was when it was your voice when it was a modification of

your voice that was that was odd for me i didn't like that so the funny thing is one of the reasons that we had actually leaned that way initially was that there seemed to be less community backlash to cloning my voice versus cloning a random one because i don't know why but it seems like the perception was less that we replaced a voice actor with an AI. And the perception was more, we are, we are applying a, an efficiency factor to Linus's time by saving him the trouble of reading the

lines. And the, the distinction is arbitrary. Yeah. What, but, but, but that voice sounding like me made it an extension of me instead of...

This whole landscape is weird to navigate right now. Oh, I know, right? It's true. Because we're all figuring out kind of how we feel about these things and where the lines are and stuff. And while that's still happening, it's a little tricky. But I think this is okay. And I like the idea of if the channel does start performing

well we could you know get talent for it or whatever that's that's interesting i do suspect the quoted number of views that you just said i think some of the videos on these channels are gonna do a lot worse than that oh yeah and i think some of the videos on these channels will smash that out of the park i think so too i think um and it's going to be very up and down i think very inconsistent here's something that i bet you guys didn't necessarily realize is the ai voice is not the only automation tool that's being used for these videos i don't think i knew that a human editor only watches the output of the video yeah whoa yeah so so the reason the script is a little bit formulaic sounding

is because it's actually yes a template you're doing the same shots so are you are you naming the files in a certain way is that how it's doing it so all the shots will be the same all the graphics will be the same with the same names ish um the exact details of how it's done are going to be ed's department not mine right um but then the the the the little cut the little color commentary because that was something we realized about the first one that needed to be fixed. It had no context. It was just like, however point, whatever, miller ripples,

like it didn't sound like anything if you don't already understand it, right? And so I was like, okay, look, guys, we have to come up with a way to create a script that allows for some color commentary or we are going to completely lose any chance we could possibly have of people watching this thing and learning anything so when it says this is as expected for power supplies of this class there's basically variables

there's almost like a drop down box this is worse than expected this is better than expected this is as expected so when it did like the cables are of acceptable bendiness or whatever the cables are of exceptional bendiness the cables are of subpar bendiness compared to our expectations and now a human is involved in in bending those cables and seeing okay yeah we know the depth of the power supply but like really what can you fit it because that was something that i asked to be added because the depth of a power supply, but really, what can you fit it? Because that was something that I asked to be added. Because the depth of a power supply doesn't tell you what case it can fit in. You need to know, once accounting for cable bendiness,

how deep it is, right? So that's something that a human needs to do. This is not AI content. This is highly human-created content that is edited together and voiced by automation tools it's something that i have no idea if it's going to work but boy do i ever hope so given how much we've invested in it because i don't think the labs website on its own is going to have a chance of of reaching any kind of break-even point. It's got to be something that can be funded

by the other branches of our company, and that will allow us to reinvest in it and continue to build. We have some ideas to help it, but it will always kind of struggle a bit. Yeah. Exciting, right? Well, I'm excited.

Oh, right, we're supposed to do merch message i'm excited to tell you guys about those uh do we have any store updates that we're supposed to talk about i haven't looked at that part of the oh oh yes we have a huge promotion that we are running right now on the ltt screwdriver this applies to any screwdriver. That's right. Classic colors, retro, Noctua, or stubby. If you buy any LTT screwdriver by, oh really, by midnight today. Wow, that's a really short draw. Okay, you'll be entered into a draw to win either a giant LTT screwdriver.

Check that out. That's from that stream we did earlier this week. Or a $2,200 gaming PC check that out oh that's from that stream we did earlier this week or a 2200 gaming pc as seen on our pc building stream this last wednesday for the full details and legal info you got to go to ltstore.com slash products slash screwdriver so cool right anyway uh one of the things that you can do if you decide to order a screwdriver right now is you can leave a merch message in the shopping cart we don't want to just take your money just you throw your money at your screen and then what we like acknowledge your comment no no no no you should leave a merch message

so you can throw money at your screen and get great quality merchandise in the mail in the cart you'll see a little box whenever we're live to leave a merch message it will go to producer dan who will pop it up on the bottom down there like that reply to it forward it internally to someone who can best get you an answer or oh sorry dad curate it sorry uh sorry my bad the button's broken yeah for sure or he will curate it for me and luke to address on the show dan do you want to hit us with a merch message to show the folks how it works sure absolutely yeah we've got a few here let's see uh would you make an apple leather jacket no

so please make a medium tall i need to replace my leather jacket so bad so please you know how we did tall shirts yet dan we're losing this war i don't care i will have them custard custom tailor me one you know how we did that mock neck yeah that we called the steve where it had the seam down the middle just like his iconic okay so i had oh no i had the jensen the steve apple i had planned so matthew from creator warehouse his amd ultimate tech upgrade is coming up okay and i don't know if it's going to make it into the cut because it's sponsored by amd so who knows what the it might not make it through our own internal business team you know right whatever and it's not like it's it's not make it through our own internal business team, you know, right, whatever. And it's not like it's, it's not like it matters in terms of our editorial integrity. If we can talk about a future product or whatever.

So it's not the kind of thing, that's not the kind of hill we're going to die on. So it might not make it through our internal team. It might not make it through AMD. But one of the things that happened in that video is matthew and i decided to tease a potential upcoming product called the jensen the jensen because we've wanted to do a leather jacket for a while i don't know what kind of leather we'd use we actually haven't gotten that far but one of the things we have decided is that the jacket will be designed by ai because of course it would oh he's already got some really great concepts so obviously because you know we have designers um we would make it actually function in the real world but it would have like pockets that don't

open zippers that don't go anywhere at least it doesn't have to do hands. You know, AI things. The AI jacket. The Jensen. Huh? Huh? Dan? Dan? Huh? If it's in a medium tall, I will buy two.

Right? I think... That sounds sick. W Calgary 2 in Floatplane Chat has summarized my thoughts so far of that's going to be a really expensive joke. How many do you think you're going to sell? You're going to sell two to Dan? It's going to be a really expensive joke how many do you think you're going to sell you're going to sell two today it's going to be a really expensive joke he's going to use his employee thing and i'll pay out of pocket i don't care dude i get okay so you're selling two to dan

i guarantee you i guarantee you okay guys come on let's hear from you who wants one dan i need i think we need to get a poll in here oh yeah right away yeah uh firefox let's get that poll and besides and besides if it doesn't sell in the in the google find your life video one of the one of the top comments was like along with all the floatplane users i am 70 of people that use firefox or something like that i don't remember the exact sign and i i burst out laughing i was like oh but think about it this way luke even if we don't sell any of them, infinite money glitch, we just write them off. All right, we'll get that going.

You mad? Are you mad, bro? I'm voting no. Brother, are you angry? I do need to replace this jacket, though. Why? Oh, I'm so excited. I can't find a leather tailor to actually work on it we're still

looking i'm trying to find an artist collective around here that could recommend an artisan but it's very very difficult i know a person who works with leather goods who lives on vancouver island because he came to uh ltx oh yeah you're not talking about that person are you is it someone i know no oh okay never mind um i can't find any company that makes them anymore so yeah well bummer for dan yeah so yeah maybe we'll get him a jensen that'd be cool okay where's our where's our do you want pockets that don't open and zippers that are to nothing do you want that is that a good is that is that dude clothes more interesting clothes are supposed to be self-expression artistic self-expression and in this case the person who has one brand of socks and right i've been wearing one jacket for 10 years of t-shirts 10 years i've been wearing this jacket in this case i haven't

even changed my shoes in a decade in this case the use multiple pairs of the same one to be clear the use of ai actually makes sense it's it's so meta like it's an it could be an ironic expression it's on that it's nvidia of like hating ai it needs a little uh where's the ding it needs a a pocket. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm talking about. That's the first time I've had to do that for Luke. He deserved it. Disgusting. It needs to have a pocket on the chest for your humane bin. Yeah, but it should be like the wrong size because an AI has no concept of scale. It doesn't fit.

Do you have all the product failure pockets if like the we'll make it out of rabbit leather 45 000 jacket that's a lot of rabbits mood murdered yeah um oh it'd just be android anyway sorry uh were we supposed to be on a topic right now? Because I actually wanted to come back to PSU Circuit a little bit. That was the second merch message? That was one merch message. Oh, that was one. Okay.

Hit me again, and I'm just going to leave this page open so I don't forget to talk about it. Okay. Yeah, sure. Same sort of thing. I'm curious about the amount of stolen items found during tech upgrade videos. Were the items actually considered stolen, or is this just a joke about the amount of stuff employees take back with them? Both? A little bit of both, think yes both is good um okay sorry i was eating jerky um okay so part of it is that i was a little bit legitimately annoyed in some of the very early ones to find work property in people's homes nothing that mattered um in the grand scheme of things

what were some of those things like what like cables like a like a cheap usb dock that realistically we didn't pay for and and probably they intended to return at some point because remember we started this series when work from home was a lot more common at our company because of all the covid lockdowns and stuff right so people had a lot of stuff at home that they were probably going to return it, but it wasn't asset-tagged inventory, so nothing would have prevented them from just keeping it. And so it was this kind of gray area where it kind of started with me being like, hey, come on, man. And then, then obviously i ended up with a lot of false

positives because legitimately people do end up with a lot of stuff that used to belong to the company you know we got ltt store well we also have the lmg store which is where people can sometimes get access to you know a unit that came in for B-roll for a sponsor and ended up having cosmetic damage. And they were like, well, we don't want it back. And it goes in the, it goes in the giveaway pile. We have a giveaway pile. Um, we also have wild Christmas parties, not in like a, like a tech bro, Silicon Valley games industry kind of way in like a, wow, I can't believe the giveaways, kind of way in like a wow i can't believe the giveaways um that they're giving that they have at this uh you know to drink maximum otherwise pretty you know controlled party um so so people end up with stuff from the christmas party uh people end up with we have done on occasion in

the past um the christmas party is a lot of stuff it's hundreds of things every year we have done on occasion in the past, like extra credit things that people can do for what we call LMG bucks. I don't think we've done that in a long time, but in the early days- I've never even heard of that. Yeah, no, we would have stuff that's like,

this power supply has a broken fan in it. Linus could open it and put a new fan in, or if you wanted to just like take it home with you and put a new fan in it then you can have 50 lmg bucks or something like that and if you if you buy stuff when i was off float planning yeah i've never heard of this almost no almost no one used it but this is just an example of one of the ways that people could have obtained stuff over the years um i used to just get paid in hardware that i mean no yeah not by me yes well topped up you were above the legal limit otherwise yes yes yes yes you can't say stuff like that luke

you gotta people are gonna you know how people are it was fun anyway so lmg bucks uh for stuff that's in our inventory that's like used. We don't if people want to like buy it and we don't need it. We don't charge full price for it. So people can use LMG bucks to stretch a dollar pretty far. So people people use LMG bucks a lot. So people have stuff that they've bought from work stuff that they have won from work stuff that they've taken home from work for legitimate purposes. And in the case of Dennis, stuff that they've just f***ing taken, because I don't know, he thinks he has tenure or something.

I'm not sure how that works in his head. So it is a combination of things. And like anything, it's been amusing for me to see the community speculation around it, because the number of people that are outraged either way is baffling uh the people that are that are outraged that i am that i am such a that i'm such a i don't know overbearing horrible boss that i'm gonna be berating someone in public over this cable that they took um is a probably about equal to the number of people that hate me for being such a such a disorganized corporate overlord that i can't even inspire my team in this horrible toxic work

environment to not be stealing anything that isn't bolted down like it's it's amazing how you could just take a a joke that's just a meme and interpret it as i've always i've always wondered like if we do one at my place what stuff like what stuff will not be stolen i because it's a lot of it like i don't even know like i i don't know well that's what asset tags are for yeah but sometimes there's asset tags on stuff that was given away really yeah oh really yeah okay well we'll see uh i might remember and then i think i have like three generations you know i personally select the items for the giveaway every year right yeah yeah that's what i know but there's there's three generations

of computers in my place that are from my like weird upgrade thing that i have well i guess we'll see i like found some graphics cards at my dad's place and i recognize them as work property yeah yeah so i think we'll figure it out but i didn't even know but i did so like it's yeah it might be interesting. Guilty? Oh yeah, I've taken stuff home. I don't anymore. But like, I don't know. The line used to be a lot more blurry when there was like three of us. It used to be as simple as like,

hey, my GPU died. I want a game this weekend and I like don't want to go to the store. Yeah. Can I borrow a GPU? And it'd be like, yeah, don't take one of the ones we need for this review on Tuesdayuesday yeah i need these ones it's like okay i'll grab some other ones yeah it used to be pretty loose it was pretty fluid but that was that was a really so

the stuff that i have is going to be like ancient i would say these days the vast majority of what i'm memeing on on camera i am memeing on yeah it's it's mostly the, yeah, it's mostly going to be the really old stuff. This is why Luke hasn't gotten an upgrade yet, says Bell in the chat. Yeah, I love it. Every day is set up.

Every day I'm upgrading. Sorry. Right. So I had wanted to come back to the lab's website for a second here. Oh. Because we also have the written

version of that video yeah which i didn't mention before so you know that's pretty cool so it's it's just like we want to make it so that this work that we're doing is digestible easily by as many people as possible so we have the written version which is as deep as it's going to get, basically. And then there's also the video version for people that don't like reading stuff. Yep. Depending on, you know, what part of the world you live in, you might be more interested in 115 volt versus 230 volt. Power excursion, productivity. Might also be easier for you to just like Google Translate the lab's website.

Yeah. That way. Yeah, exactly. So we got that there and then this is really cool they also did and this is uh co-authored by oni um our test technician and lucas who is our power supply uh wizard um that is to help you power up your knowledge and it's basically a how to how to watch how to read cool right where they go through our graphing formats kind of explain uh why we've laid them

out the way that we have how to interpret them uh what matters what doesn't uh this oh man this was this was an entire probably half an hour to 45 minutes of a meeting. This graph and breaking the sine wave and the interruption during the brownout off onto this separate graph. And I got to make one of my best jokes ever in a meeting that I think I already alluded to on WAN Show before, so I won't make the rest of you suffer. Yeah, I thought that was wrong. Hold on one sec. I think you slipped. Oni's title is Senior Content writer not technician oh sorry sorry sorry writer writer writer yep thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you sorry sorry sorry sorry um he was just focusing on the next thing he was gonna say it's sorry oni yeah enjoy your gpu that you got consolation prize something yeah she was in a video oh yeah she was oh yeah yeah no i saw that i saw um that's a pretty sick consolation yeah um anywho so yeah

there was a there was a lot of debate about this graph um and like you know how to make it more readable so yeah we gave a lot of thought to. And if you guys want to know what the thinking was and how to interpret it, this is a really great primer on how to understand if a power supply is any good. Very exciting. Okay, what do you want to talk about next? We're off Merch Messages, right?

We're doing other topics. I want to talk about- That's what the paper says. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to talk about- I just read what's on the prompter you san diego the arm windows revolution might come packed with a privacy nightmare oh i know right okay all right do the thing this was this was the topic that hit me this week i dove into this a little bit but i'm going to read these notes first and then i'll tangent into whatever i'm thinking of uh this week microsoft officially unveiled its new lineup of laptops featuring qualcomm's 12 core snapdragon x elite

and 10 core snapdragon x plus chips all of which are based on arm that's like the big drop here these laptops reportedly have a battery life of 17 to 20 hours and several apparently outperform an m3 macbook air acer asus dell hp inspiron i thought it was hp inspiron is inspiron a different brand uh inspiron is a dell brand so i don't know don't worry about it samsung and lenovo have likewise announced new snapdragon powered lap snapdragon snapdragon powered laptops um laptop lineups as well these laptops will launch with native arm versions of adobe photoshop lightroom firefly and express it's an interesting setup to not have premiere but it does say with premiere and illustrator coming later in the summer microsoft is no longer calling these ai pcs

instead calling them co-pilot plus pcs which really makes me think of uh gnu plus linux but anyways um the company is heavily emphasizing their ai capabilities including uncontroversial features like ai upscaling but all it's not completely uncontroversial but sure um but also a recall feature this is the one that stood out to me uh that has raised some concerns among uh i almost said piracy among privacy advocates recall gives co-pilot a kind of literal photographic memory by taking an automatic screenshot every three seconds this would store around three months of a user's recent activity by default according to microsoft the feature can be turned on or off and these snapshots which the vast majority of windows users will never turn it

off because the vast majority of windows users never go into settings and change anything so keep that in mind so you might most people won't um these snapshots are encrypted and stored locally and may be deleted at any time further users can create blacklists that prevent recall from taking screenshots when certain apps or websites are open likewise these images are tied to specific user profiles on the device. Critics, however, have expressed concern that the feature could still wind up capturing sensitive information, because of course it could, which might be abused by someone with access to the device, especially if a person unknowingly borrows a device or uses a public device with this feature

enabled. The UK's Information Commissioner's Office has announced that it will be making inquiries into potential security issues posed by the feature. I mean, this is one of those topics where we read the thing, and then I think we basically go, that's bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Elijah in chat, who i don't like acknowledging because he's supposed to be working but it's after hours so i guess it's fine elijah says for his amd ultimate tech

upgrade which by the way is coming oh he's gonna switch to linux over this feature and you know what oh i don't even blame him based even though you can turn it off it's like yeah you can turn it off now and then windows will update and i'll turn it back on and it won't tell you and we've seen it time and time and time and time again and you know what i i think with man with the with the way that things are developing right now man that's so based on game compatibility on linux um my understanding and i haven't talked to emily about this much but i have a little bit because she's been pushing me to do another steam os gaming check-in or not steam os uh gaming on linux check-in okay because it's been a little while and i kept saying look i

want to do it when steam os gets released broadly and she's all like yeah but like is that ever going to happen i i've been like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah now i'm not i don't know who knows it's a good question yeah it's a good question so anyway we're going to do it um but from from that conversation she was basically saying yeah and nvidia driver support is looking like it's like gonna get a lot better like like soon like like they care um dude like is linux going to be the gaming operating system wait and windows becomes the like or like is linux going to be the like the x86 gaming operating system and is windows i mean looking how hard microsoft is pushing are they going to become like the arm the the arm productivity you know operating system the mobile like laptop only operating system computers and here's what's really confusing to me about

this is why is microsoft so focused on beating the macbook oh dude dude. What the f*** is Apple's market share even? This interview opens with him talking about Apple. I know. I know. The first line mentions Apple directly. It's weird. But here's the thing. This is Apple's market share, according to Statista.

16%. Yeah. So, like, what are you you doing so f***ing what it's like it's like intel at the the prime of their market share which was not that long ago but intel at the at the height the prime of their market share opening a new feature talk by naming amd why like what are you doing you already dominate it's weird i don't know man and i like yeah like dude oh apparently this is this is in the united states too so that's going to be way higher than it is worldwide yeah Yeah, 100%. And I get it. They're competition or whatever else. But at the end of the day, you're kind of chasing this minority shareholder.

Not shareholder, but a holder of market share. I don't know. And you know what? Look's capitalism baby you got to grow and taking some of apple like taking taking 10 like this is the thing if they can take 10 of the sales that would have been a macbook okay they grow their market share in the u.s by 1.6 and And I get it. You got to show growth. But do you even think that this is the solution to that? Because I don't know. I think the solution to that is making really good AI stuff that works better on our processes,

convincing people to upgrade. Because we know that from the COVID era, people bought a bunch of stuff and they don't need to upgrade it because there's no point. Here comes a hot take. So make things that are worth upgrading your hardware for.

You know what I think is happening right now? I think that Microsoft is contributing to a significant improvement in Qualcomm Mindshare among computer buyers that is ultimately going

to be exploited by Google. You ready for this? You're falling back on your Chromebook thing. Chromebooks. If you wanted a machine where battery life you ready for this you're falling back on your your chromebook thing chromebooks if you wanted a machine where battery life was of the utmost importance are you going to be running windows anyway no chrome os supports linux applications now chrome os supports steam gaming on linux is getting better all of these things are happening right now.

So is Emily saying that there has been... Because I haven't looked. This is not me countering to be super, super clear before it, because you know the Linux people can get a little defensive sometimes. I'm not relaxed. Is Emily saying that there's been significant steps since we did our challenge? Yeah.

Because I would love to switch. I would love to switch i'd love to switch it just wasn't quite there if it's there i'm gone because honestly i don't mind windows at all i actually kind of like windows 11 in a lot of different ways and i know people hate windows 11 i don't care i enjoy it the things that i don't like are this snapshot thing them when you update windows them overriding some of your settings and changing things forcing ads into my operating system go away and then making search just the worst thing in the world those things are the only things i actually dislike a lot of what windows done windows search is the worst thing in the world all right maybe

exaggerate a little bit but But the ads is too far. This snapshot thing, which you know it's going to turn itself back on, is too far. And the search being trash and constantly searching the internet when I want it to search local. And even when you tell it to only search local,

now it just can't find things. Yeah. Which is crazy. There's no reason for that. So, yeah, I'd love to bail out i really like mint actually i like using mint my biggest problem is constantly jumping back and forth for applications mostly games and some applications is just really annoying i want an operating system that can do my stuff i'm excited i uh i i think i think the the age of

the chromebook is dawning you're excited about chromebook well it's linux it's kind of cut down so you so you think by chromebook taking over linux will become stronger because of more contribution look at the trajectory of chrome os. Chrome OS started super, super locked down, basically only ran Chrome. It started out with all the devices having completely locked down firmware, so you couldn't even install a different operating system if you wanted to.

Now, you can run Android apps on it. You can run Linux apps on it. I believe some of them have, you can run Linux apps on it. I believe some of them have, some of them allow alternate operating system installs by default. Don't quote me on that last one. We did a video on this recently,

so it's kind of in my brain, but has fallen out a little bit. I think that if Google is smart, this is their opportunity. Kids up using chrome os millions and millions and millions of kids grow up using chrome os and so all chrome os has to do is keep getting a little more functional now google is also a tech giant like microsoft and is absolutely capable of succumbing to the same hubris as microsoft and just screwing up chrome os and making it so bad that we couldn't possibly switch to it but no i absolutely do believe that linux is the beneficiary of chrome os gaining more popularity and chrome os stands to be a beneficiary of Linux

gaining better support and gaining better access to applications. People want to run. Yeah. A hundred percent. One thing that's interesting is, is as based as, as Elijah's move is. And as much as if,

if significant improvements have been made, I would yet again, be happy to consider it. At least I don't think most gamers are going to care what about productivity i think workplaces are going to stay on windows for the foreseeable future that's my problem yeah like we can't want we can't run wan show on linux unfortunately yeah yeah there's what doesn't work okay so that's an interesting one handyman uh in flow plane chat linked me something that is pretty cool which is uh works on woa.com and then in

this particular instance slash games i'm gonna go to my laptop you can search the games that are that will work on windows 100 asian cats i have no idea some game okay norp analog i know the norp analog yeah that's fun yeah i like that yeah so like some of these you've seen the amount of games on steam right there's gonna be some weird names i'm not i'm not talking about the there's seven ways to die i don't know that's a game i haven't heard of a lot of these but it is what it is but yeah there's there's already sites popping up like this what's what's the home page what else is on here oh just games cool um can you can you sort by like category popular like games you've heard of is that a thing or okay looks pretty bare bones for now but um yeah in the long term maybe it's still be oh well there's

there's 1348 results i'm expecting they're not all tagged properly that makes sense um so the the category stuff is probably not working great but interesting site you could what do you want to search for how about that um let's go with dark souls cool dark souls cool hmm close it got ring i mean it's better than windows search it's just extremely fuzzy fuzzy search it's comfy blanket search um yeah i don't know that's that's neat but it's coming along i i just i don't like this i care i appreciate that it's stored locally yeah but some of the stuff stored locally does not mean secure encrypted does not mean secure

nothing is impenetrable nothing is fully secure do you hear the argument for why we should be okay with it because this is all just coming anyway and we should just kind of deal with it everyone's going to have an equivalent thing like man we're talking about them having capabilities like i forgot my my password for my for my mobile operators you know online portal what is it um cortana yeah you can't be you can't you can't be storing that stuff yeah it's sketch yeah this interview on bloomberg television um i think this is the interview at least at some point in time the interviewer asks satya nadella is this it yeah i think so i'm not 100 certain this is the right one but i think

it is um at some point in time in the video uh she asks him like this is kind of creepy basically and he responds with effectively what linus just said which is like i don't know ai stuff is going to be like this so get used to it not obviously not exactly that very pr he wordsmithed it quite a bit better than that yes but that's basically i'm not nominating you for new ceo of microsoft although they might go in a good direction with you at the helm. I don't know if they'd make money, though. Probably not. Yeah. Oh, question. Syncplane asks, hey, can you ask Dan again what doesn't work on Linux for WAN show?

Yeah, I'm very curious about that. Oh, that's the vMix. Yeah. That's basically just vMix. Yeah. It uses too much of the Windows libraries for, especially because almost all of it is gpu um it's very very stable because it's a pretty much 100 gpu compute someone's this is this is

one of the problems that we run into and now i'm gonna piss all the linux people off um so there's a couple things we start talking about how we could we could maybe adopt linux again and floatplane chat erupts with you should use this distro with this thing and this blah blah blah that's that's scary for new users and then the other one is tell me the software that didn't work because they know some way to magically get it to function in some way somehow yeah I'm running it on metal I'm not going to emulate an operating system underneath it yeah yeah there's always there's always that one program and it stops working and then we want to go live on wanshow but it doesn't work so you have to tinker with linux to make it function it's like

yeah it needs to be or we could just spend a hundred dollars on a windows license yeah this is windows 11 that has vmix installed on it and chrome this that is all that is on this computer this is why business i don't really see them moving um and and at home as well like there's always that one program that i need to be using that doesn't exist you had a rough day at work driving home three different people cut cut you off someone scraped the side of your car you're upset you go get some coffee and you spill it and you finally get home you just want to play video games and you sit on your computer and they won't work for some reason and it happened a lot

guys i think if you're being honest with yourselves you it doesn't bother you because you enjoy the tinkering there is tinkering which is great which is fine fantastic i have lots of things that i do the hard way because i enjoy it i don't have to paint my own motorcycle believe it or not i'm doing it i have pictures i was gonna say speaking which i put i put white on it nice um primer nope no it's primed gray um but the frame needs to be painted white because the pink that's going to go over top of it doesn't shine through as brightly if it just goes on gray primer. I apparently don't have pictures of it. So forget that.

How much longer do you think? The paint shop keeps telling me today, bro. Don't tell me today. Like, tell me tomorrow. Give yourself some wiggle room for seven or eight business days. They've been telling me I'll have it for me today. Like tell me tomorrow, give yourself some wiggle room for, for seven or eight business days. They've been telling me I'll have it for you today. Is it today or is it, I don't know.

Yeah. It doesn't matter. Sometimes, sometimes you have the best intentions. I know. I'm just, I'm waiting on the mid coat and the effect coat and then I can do the whole thing.

Like I'm, I'm ready to paint. That's exciting. Yeah. I'm really excited. Someone said, yeah, it's also perfectly okay to only partially move to something if it doesn't work i hear that but then like i said earlier in the show like i don't want to be switching between operating systems all the time why are we training up our level one technicians on two operating systems yeah no no man we got grub on the computers now and like oh you make

a mistake and now now you won't boot and i've dealt with that before i used to i used to triple boot between osx uh windows and linux on one machine uh back when you could do the hackintosh stuff yeah well i work for you obviously that's why we hired you yeah it sucks i just want to go home and and not do work basically there's there's some significant bumps to get over still i'm sure those are i mean i haven't touched in a long time i'm sure those are still problems um but you know the more bumps microsoft puts in front of windows Eventually those roads might start looking pretty similar and when they do I think Linux starts to win.

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That was awful. I should have dinged all of those. Yeah, really. That was the worst. The dancing cow was pretty great, though. Was it Dancing Baby? What year is it? I don't think it one-upped me apparently being Dan's dad.

Yeah, it was a little weird um is it too late for an abortion like why does he have a beard i came out of the womb with that bearded baby oh boy what do you want to do next three merch messages oh yeah right sorry yes dan yes yes sir sure okay sir uh having trouble balancing work and time with my partner she says we compromised on shared time too much but i made two-thirds versus last year i work odd hours to get overtime but get three days off advice three days off is a lot right but do those hours always coincide with her time off because yeah if you have three days off but you spend two of them like gaming in your cave and to be clear i'm not saying

you're doing that i'm just saying three days off does not necessarily equate to three days together totally i mean that's a tough one you gotta you gotta make time uh relationships do not autopilot you also need to set realistic expectations because as they said i made two-thirds versus last year economic times are tough right now you can't just like not push i mean i remember we talked to we well no we didn't talk about it but we alluded to it last week when yvonne was on the show with us um where yeah we had some really tough conversations and what i often fell back on in fact you know being across the hall from us and those with those paper thin walls uh what i often you've probably heard me say this before but what i often alluded to was that that old expression sometimes they would go downstairs to like the living room area thinking that it did anything anyway um i often would talk

about making hay while the sun's shining yes like that's a if you have a good opportunity now but then you also can't like depending on your financial situation you might not if the sun's no longer shining you might not have an opportunity to not you might just have to make hay anyway i mean the answer is kind of the same either way, I guess, is like, at the end of the day, work is our modern equivalent of going out and foraging for food and building shelter. If we don't do it, we don't eat and we don't have shelter. And there are alternatives.

You could be a mountain man and you guys could go to the mountain and you could forage for food and build shelter um but what i suspect is that she doesn't want to do that um i mean maybe maybe in which case i hope you're ready for some significant lifestyle adjustments might be sick you won't be watching wan show much from out there i don't think a little tough yeah it's tough i mean i think that the most important thing in any relationship in any conflict is you got to communicate you've both got to communicate okay what are my needs what are your needs what are the realistic um challenges that we face to uh to meet both of them and what's the closest that we can get to a middle ground yeah and like you you're pointing out yourself i made two-thirds versus

last year uh she might not be as financially minded or financially focused um i find there's usually like one person in the relationship that is more so like for for for you yvonne is more financially focused i think um she's better at it i'll say that much probably good um but okay man this is this is one of those things where i feel like in in trying to make sure that people properly appreciate that yvonne is not just the boss's wife and take your wife to work day i i've talked a lot about how good she is at that kind of stuff guys don't kid yourself i'm not some idiot like i i know how to budget things and stuff so i was yeah i was memeing on you but i yeah i know well the problem is that they don't know that yeah there seems to it's fair enough there seem to be a lot of people that when i build someone else up

and i kind of have like i have kind of a self-deprecating style of humor. People seem to take it at face value, which. Well, hey, I see you and that's OK. My my literal friends. My my point was is it might be a good idea to sit down with the books. With her. Try to explain, or with them. Try to explain.

Oh, no, it says she. Okay, yeah, with her. Try to explain, like, this is why. Okay, I made two-thirds versus last year. These are my financial goals over the next while, which will put us in these financial positions where you know retirement might be more comfy we might be able to uh i don't know rent a better place or buy a better place or buy a place at all or do whatever have more insulate financial insulation

if something bad happens say one of us loses a job this will give us more of a runway like explain all of these different types of things but if i could give a little bit of advice don't mansplain it ask questions totally ask questions like in the event that one of us lost a job how long would you expect us to take to get a new job and how much of what we're making now would we be willing to settle for so you can ask a question like that lay out a scenario and then do the math together rather than doing it all ahead of time and basically giving a presentation because that can have a little bit of the ick. Totally. That makes

sense. Yeah. Yeah, work with them on it. I don't know. I'm showing my seven-year-old some games from my own childhood. For example, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Worms, and Age of Empires 2. Classics. How has your children responded to older games like these as they grew older? Did any really get into some?

I haven't played older games with my kids that much. But what I will say is they tend to enjoy things the most when you do it with them. So if you just give them roller coaster tycoon and walk away i doubt that's going to be very effective but if you sit and make coasters with them that will be super effective um like uh my son would never pick up liero on his own like he doesn't he could um but he loves playing it with me so that's that's the kind of thing you got to do right if you if you want them to kind of enjoy the same things as you and you want to kind of make that connection just make sure that you understand it has to go both ways i've had to spend more time than i otherwise would

have playing minecraft dungeons um because my kids like it and it's what it's like it's diablo right like it's it's a stupid just click on everything dungeon crawler game right like and and to be clear if you enjoy minecraft dungeons that's fine there's good gameplay mechanics and i'm sure at like a high level you can be good at it and stuff it's not just click on things or whatever like some of the raids are pretty challenging and like we got wiped and stuff so no disrespect intended it's just not really my genre and um i've played a lot more of it than i would have if my kids hadn't asked me to right and let's see what's our last one here hello daluli i recently sent my 89 civic hatchback into a tree at 35 miles an hour a day before i went on

vacation have you had anything catastrophic happen before an event, but found a way to go anyway? What a specific question. Oh, no. Oh. Before an event. I mean, I'm sure I've had something terrible happen before an event. I mean, you get sick anytime you go anywhere,

so that's kind of catastrophic. Yeah, I'm worried. Remember that time you went to Japan and then just stayed in your hotel room the whole time that was taiwan taiwan sure whatever that's where i'm going again nice hopefully i'll get sick again i thought you also had to stay in your hotel room a lot in japan yes yeah so i'm not wrong so wow i haven't i haven't not been why you gotta be like that why am i being so defensive right now i haven't not been sick

during a vacation for three years nice and we're rolling the dice again nice seeing how it goes yeah yeah maybe it'll work out you got i'm not sick don't worry thanks unless i am oh we'll find out soon yeah i mean it'll affect me too i guess let's hope neither of us is sick yes um i don't know it's happened a bunch of times tell me this i don't really want to give examples tell me this okay now obviously i'm not going to ask you if you're going to wear a cloth square on your face but would you consider using one of the like organic particulate filters like I have for my painting booth? Would you consider wearing one of those on the plane?

Because close quarters on a plane? Look, I don't give a f**k if you believe that COVID was a government conspiracy or whatever. I actually don't care. The cold, hard truth is that proximity, especially over an extended period of time to people who are infected with any kind of even remotely airborne illness increases the chances of you getting sick. Stop. If you're going to say anything other than that,

being near sick people makes you sick. You're actually stupid and you can go away. So if you were to wear like a real filtering mask if that was an option because it is they're like 100 bucks and the cartridges are much cheaper they're like interchangeable cartridges yeah i have i have one i used to use it for working with cement how badly do you not want to get sick i think not badly enough to wear that which is funny because yeah why i actually find them wildly more comfortable to wear yeah they're not that uncomfortable but people like

hate it so much i don't know why i tried it before when this whole thing first popped off my immediate reaction was to go get my old like cement mask thing yeah because i'm like they have removable filters i'll just buy the n95 ones because those exist and you can just click them in and then i'm good right and the whole world was like no we have to use these really annoying one size fits all they don't fit your head they're going to literally cut your ears masks and i'm like why like when i when i'm on planes you know what i actually do yeah i wear those old noise canceling headphones that you got for us 2014 i don't even remember i don't remember when you bought everybody noise canceling headphones

for trips like a billion years ago okay uh i still i still have those and i i hook the mask around those so it doesn't cut into my ears if i don't i i've actually bled from masks before my head's too big i 30 printed a bunch of um ear saver it's so annoying and i'm the one with the ego you have you have that makes sense i did it for that was um during covid they were the blood people the bloodletting people i can't remember they called like life labs and stuff like that oh the bloodletting people you mean the clinic yeah the clinic where they let your blood go into the tubes do you call your doctor a sawbones it'd be funny it'd be very funny dr saw bones please i have the i have the vapors um

and those worked really well because they were having to wear masks like for like 10 12 hours a day and they were all bleeding as well so you could try one of those although they'd probably be pretty silly i don't know what happened i used to i used to get sick decently often enough that it was annoying but it would always be for like really short periods of time and it was like usually pretty easy like i would get sick on like a thursday or a friday and i'd be better again by the time i'm back in i work on monday and i'd like lose a weekend and it would suck but like it didn't really matter and now i'll get sick and it just doesn't go away for so long and like the most recent two of them i tested and

they weren't covid so like it's just something i have no idea i don't know man i um for me the uh i i don't wear a mask anymore because we don't have mandates and lockdowns and there's you know there's there's a lot more certainty about uh and its various changes over the years and all of that. So I'm a lot less worried about it. I mean, it's the unknown that was the reason for a lot of the protective measures. We didn't know what it was going to do. We didn't know what the impacts were going to be long term. So I don't wear a mask anymore.

But what I do still do is i wash my hands way more than i used to that's a new one for me i never get sick anymore think about it when's the last time you saw me miss a day of work because i'm sick yeah like basically never remember and in the old days i used to work anyway but i'd you go back to some of the old videos and i'm like i'm hosting it like this because i have no voice and stuff. Dude, I never get sick anymore. Washing your hands more. And it's not like I was like a dirty, gross, disgusting person before anything.

Like I wash my hands when I use the bathroom and stuff like that. But I switched my mentality. I used to wash my hands whenever I did something dirty. Now I wash my hands before I'm about to do something that requires cleanliness yes and also that yeah and that has made probably the biggest difference out of every behavioral i'm also really hardcore about um when i go to the gym i'm really hardcore about not touching

my face with my hands sometimes i might you know there's sweat or whatever i'll use like my arm i'll do it but i'll make sure that i've washed my hands first well i'll do that but then at the gym you're touching things in the gym there's no way yeah so i i pre-wiped down every surface that i use in the gym including bars like barbells whatever else and then even despite that if I need to touch my face, I'll use like, you know, you do this with your hand so you can have a point with this part of the wrist.

And then I'll like use that if I need to, or just my whole back of my arm or whatever. Like I'll find some way to not use the inside of my hand that I'm touching things with. Unique username reminds me that you just had a UTI line. I'm sorry for the reminder. I did, but that's not

related to yeah transmissible although there there are person-to-person transmission things that can cause a uti which actually reminds me of the time that my doctor in front of me basically told yvonne oh honey he's cheating on you. Have I never told you this story? No. What? Anyway, antibiotics, they're a miracle. I'm fine now, thank you. As far as the UTI goes.

Oh. It's like, oh no. But I got an unrelated blood test for something what's happening i got okay i got an i got an unrelated blood test for something or other and uh i tested positive for i'm gonna get all the details wrong because i am not a no i'm not a doctor and it doesn't matter to me in my daily life but i i tested positive for like the the associated proteins or the antibodies or something of one of the hepatitis um okay and basically whichever one it is it's one that you that is is sexually transmitted um so i went in for my for this

totally unrelated blood test it was probably something to do with um uh getting my blood tested to figure out if i had arthritis because um i had these issues with inflammation in my knees and now they think it was juvenile rheumatoid arthritis so it's kind of gone in and gone into remission it'll probably come back with a vengeance when i'm old but for now i'm doing pretty great um anyway so i was i was probably in for a blood test for that or something and they basically go okay but you've got this like antigen or protein or something it was something to do with some one of the hepatitis and um they basically i basically go okay so like what does that mean and they're basically like

well it you know usually indicates that um you've you know gotten that you've had at some point uh this this sexually transmitted disease and yvonne pipes up and she goes okay but he hasn't because I don't and I never have and she kind of goes well that's how you get it so I think you guys might have to have a conversation about this

and look for me and Yvonne it's perfectly normal and acceptable for us to have a meeting with with our doctor like with each other but for her to basically like and it really was that obvious um now so we left like obviously yvonne and i have a lot of trust in our relationship because as we were leaving um i was like um no and she's like yeah i know um but yvonne having a background in pharmacy having an actual medical background herself oh man that's something that i think it's gonna be useful makes me more angry than almost anything else like and i i don't know what it is i don't know if it's the general you know arrogance that you

can see with doctors sometimes i don't know if it's like a misogyny thing i don't know what it is but the number look down on the number of times that i have had to stand there while a medical professional talks down to yvonne when she clearly understands everything that's going on very easily especially when they're talking about drugs for me to pipe in and go she's a pharmacist you don't have to explain what a corticosteroid is you can move on and for them to keep going through it explaining to her like she is three years old I don't think anything makes me more angry than that anyway so the point is this doctor who i probably have had that conversation with already because i understand these things pretty well whether it's from just paying attention in school or

it's from taking some some first year biology classes or from doing flash cards with yvonne i've picked up a lot i don't i don a lot. I don't need someone to explain to me what an anti-inflammatory is. I don't need someone to explain to me what an NSAID is. I know what these things are. Aren't you paid by the number of patients you see? Let's do this thing, right? So I tend to kind of jump in with that.

She's a pharmacist. You don't have to explain this. She knows what aspirin is. Let's move on. Anyway, so Yvonne starts asking probing questions so dismissive the doctor was so dismissive of her questions where she was basically probing for okay well what are the other like the doctor was treating her like she was basically asking if she could get pregnant from a toilet seat you know like is that how he got it did he but what she was actually asking for is like okay look i'm a little rusty on the antigens versus the proteins versus the antibodies is there some other thing

that could have caused that could have caused it and as it turns out when we went for another blood test and we came back for the results the doctor with no apology whatsoever for the incredibly awkward situation she'd created that could have in a different relationship caused a ruin it a pretty big stir okay because even if even if you did end up figuring out that it wasn't true irreparable damage could have been done no apology whatsoever is basically like yeah he like had he had some exposure to it at some point through a vaccine and had the the whatevers um but we didn't check for that last time so i didn't know you like you actually don't get to do that that's's not cool. And don't worry, I have a new doctor now. That was, it was a clinic doctor.

I hate going to walk-in clinics. It's basically useless. But we didn't have a family doctor at that time between the two of us. And my, technically still my family doctor is like out in mission because he was my family doctor from before Yvonne and I like moved to not mission. So like, I just didn't have one yet and I was super young and super healthy.

Mine is super far away. It's like 45 minutes. Yeah, it sucks. Am I, I, the walk-in clinic. Four minutes from the office, baby. I lucked out. That's pretty sick. She's amazing.

That's awesome. Dude, she tried to call me on a weekend about my results for the UTI thing. She like calls me on a Saturday. I don't pick up because I don't answer my phone because it's leaked a thousand times and I just give up on changing my phone number at this point. Um, so she calls me on a Saturday. I don't pick up because I don't answer my phone because it's leaked a thousand times. And I just give up on changing my phone number at this point. Um, so she calls me on a Saturday. I don't pick up.

She texts me. She's like, yo, I dealt with all your stuff. Go pick it up at this pharmacy. It's the one near you. I checked what? Holy crap.

She is sick. She is absolutely based. I love my doctor and she's like my age so i basically as long as she doesn't retire um dr t please please yeah as long as she doesn't retire i i'm keeping her for life she's awesome yeah yeah yeah i the only at this point the only reason why i go into a walk-in is if i am 100 hundred percent confident what's going on, I'll go in and like tell them and then they can get me whatever. Yeah.

A lot of the time they'll argue with you anyway, though. Honestly, the one that I go to, usually they just like verify really quick and they're like, okay, sure. And then that's pretty good. Cause I have this problem. I, I've explained this to you before. My like ear canals are kind of weird. I can't have the squishy earbuds cause they just fall out.

I also sometimes have a hard time um when i get off of planes sometimes my ear just won't pop oh that's bad so i have to go in and like they help me do it oh that's rough so i'll just like tell them like this is the problem this is the way that you guys have successfully done it in the past and let us be like okay let us do that's pretty straightforward it's like cool man though like man walk-in doctors or just like any doctor that just like doesn't care um it's such a it's such a kind of it's a scourge dude i agree but i get it here because here we have such an insane shortage so they have five minutes with you how are they going to care if they have five minutes i get it five minutes one question what are you going to how are you going to get invested in this person like i it sucks dr t please don't leave me yeah and some people are like time to switch doctors it's not that

easy it's not that easy we have a significant shortage and insane shortage she probably doesn't have open spots she probably has a system where family can get added on so any of these families that are growing that's her new clientele she can get added on. So any of these families that are growing, that's her new clientele. She can't bring on more people. And it's really challenging because there's, there's, there's dynamics at play that are not as simple as just like,

Oh, I don't know. Why don't you guys substitute our substitute? Why don't you guys subsidize your, your, your doctor training programs? Like it's not, it's not that simple. Like if you,

a lot of the problem is that we have a brain drain down to the united states where doctors make a lot more money but a lot of the reasons that doctors make a lot more money is because of how bloated and broken the u.s medical system is like that whole you know here's your 30 band-aid thing that goes on where insurance companies um where there's where there's these outrageous fees that are being charged because insurance companies will just pay for it and then we'll just you know bilk their their subscribers for it let that whole that whole system is hyper inefficient and facilitates doctors who will work down there making way more money such that a more efficient system can't compete with it and to be clear i am not saying the canadian system is efficient i am saying it is more efficient which

is objectively true i'm so sorry my american friends um they get like some of them get like super super super super mad about anything to do with, that sounds even remotely critical of anything about America. And I apologize sincerely for that. That's, that's, that's my Canadian way. But your system's not very good. Yeah. Apparently there's something called earplanes that can like help with the thing that I have. Maybe I'll look into this.

Some sort of eustachian tube dysfunction the band-aids have freedom i don't remember the names i have it like i i figured it out with my doctor like i think it was like the second time we went to ces so this would have been like 2013-20 that's why we have guns so we can end it when we get sick doesn't the canadian government also recommend that some of the americans in our uh in our chat spicy yeah all right guys uh yeah yeah langley man says i've been waiting eight months for an mri for a rotator cuff injury love canadian health care yeah yeah it's not a perfect system i will not even begin to pretend it's a perfect system um everything's it turns out everything's corrupt wherever lots of money is involved yeah that's what we learned yeah up here the weights are

brutal like i when i was i was really sick i don't know three months ago something like that um and it was like go to a walk-in and they're, they, they basically, I did once and they were more or less like, I don't know. Okay, cool. And then I went to go schedule an appointment with my actual doctor and he was like, well, it's going to be like a month or a little bit more before I have an appointment open. Because it's not an emergency. I was clearly not like dying dying i was just sick for a

really long time he's like well you can book an appointment and i was like well i'll probably be better by then he's like yep okay you can always book it and then cancel it when you're close and then an opening will be available to someone who needs one soon. Just saying, that's the system. We're apparently supposed to do When After Dark? We haven't even made it through all our topics. Luke has to leave in 18 minutes. But we didn't even talk about Google's AI citing the onion and recommending the health benefits of drinking pee.

What? Google's AI overviews in search appear to be drawing information from very questionable sources with limited discernment, including telling a user to try making cheese adhere better to their homemade pizza, to add about an eighth of a cup of Elmer's glue in with the sauce. The source for this wisdom appears to be an 11-year-old Reddit comment made by user F***smith. wisdom appears to be an 11 year old reddit comment made by user smith ai overviews likewise recommended eating at least one small rock per day which it attributed to uc berkeley geologists but is actually a recommendation made in 2020 in a 2021 onion article another user asked what mammal

has the most bones and was instead told that snakes have the most bones of any vertebrate not a mammal i'm afraid these errors included medical misinformation such as recommending smoking two to three cigarettes a day while pregnant even prior to the full rollout ai overviews were making similar mistakes including telling at least one user to drink large amounts of urine in order to dislodge a kidney stone i mean you can't prove it wouldn't work a google spokesperson says that the mistakes came from generally very uncommon queries and aren't representative of most people's experiences i mean that's the thing about hallucinations in it you see most of the world as it is except for the ants that are crawling out of your skin that cause you to rip your skin off you know um anywho users can use the web tab to remove these elements

or automate the process by changing their browser settings to add udm equals 14 to the end of their search url in other ai news which is awesome the chinese website for cooler master is apparently advertising their new cryo fuse 5 product which comes in six different colors as competitive ai thermal paste the official name for the product translates as thermal paste ai sports lottery um anywho they have apparently apologized for that and it was a translation error or something but i just thought it was funny to put in with our ai news that's funny i fix it has dumped samsung they're officially dropping them as a partner saying the company seems unwilling to make good faith progress towards making its devices more repairable however they will continue to provide parts and repair kits for samsung devices to consumers

um since partnering with ifixit two years ago samsung has apparently kept parts price high and continued to engage in unnecessary parts pairing according to a leaked contract samsung also required independent repair shops to report the personal information and repair details of customers and to immediately disassemble samsung devices that were repaired with third-party parts so with the amount of rules that repair shops have like so eat samsung basically um i criticize this kind of stuff when apple does it and i would spend a lot longer railing on this except luke has to go so um dang sorry cold ones reviewed our screwdriver oh really oh uh dan we tried every youtuber product it's a pretty sick video

this is the ltt screwdriver i mean nice yep i'm a i'm a man i'm a man nice this really gets me going whoa that's fucking sick look at this oh you fucking bits in there that's clean have you tried it out have you tested it oh no i just keep swizzling it it's good it's like a autism toy this is good i would love to put a pc together with this yeah if you got the wrong screw bit then i'm pretty sure this product like exists on the market but this that concept exists but this is definitely a very good execution of yeah it's simple it's sleek i was rough and it fucked the screw not the screwdriver that means the tips are good the linus tips i'm thinking a tier just from holding it that i have absolutely no issues with it yeah i'm happy with

a all right do you want not bad huh we're a tier boys nice what's s there's shoes and as this is a joke oh they only put like these stupid meme shoes in s everything a is effectively the top tier beautiful yeah i'm super i'm super excited and honestly dude not a lot of stuff ended up in a tier like we are among pretty legit company up here so So what is the other stuff in 8 here? I'm kind of interested. Hold on. Okay, man. You've got to ask me for all these details that I don't know.

Okay, well, let's switch to 4K. Enhance. Enhance. Okay, we've got a Babish tongs and something, some kind of cooking thing, I assume. Cool. We've got whatever this is and whatever this is and whatever this thing is.

Nice. And then... And whatever this is. Joyride. and whatever this thing is nice and then and whatever this is joyride oh those are those i would not consider those particularly a tier they were fine but they were too expensive aren't they aren't they uh oh i see aren't they like more healthy or something we beat the jerry rig everything knife which ended up in b tier we beat feastables which are fine i guess I guess that's about a B. We definitely beat... Are those more Feastables in each here? I didn't actually notice that MKBHD had a product in here.

What is it? Is it just a mug? How do you even rate a mug? Yeah, I don't know. They use like a merch company for their stuff. So it's just like basic. I see there's more Feastables down there down there though okay prime is actually pretty decent tasting i think there is prime is not good i think they're just memeing on them there's but no there's issues outside of flavor oh okay oh so okay when i rated when

when i rated um influencer drinks i was only going based on flavor yeah okay prime is not good crunch labs b they were not into uh mythical cereal same as me i'm sorry mythical but it tastes like shit it's it's not good i i've i look this is one of those things that's kind of tough for me because i think crunch labs is really cool i'm surprised crunch labs wasn't i've met some of these people um and so like for me to be out there just like yeah it's not good um feels a little awkward but look i got my i got my integrity boys yeah and uh mish mash is not good sorry rough uh they did not like um pokemanes cookies they are d tier and dude perfect whatever this thing is they also do not like uh hold on i'm trying to switch to my laptop uh whatever this thing is i don't know what this is oh mr b's chocolate ended up in both

e tier i tried saying this i think three times and b tier oh it's because there's different revisions of it yeah people are saying that the newer recipe is up higher than the older recipes down low okay well i'm about to i'm about to have a hot take here um you think the cold ones you guys have got no taste oh the original recipe mr beast bars i could be wrong i could be wrong are way higher quality chocolate i could be wrong hold on no i think you're right i don't know the new even looked at one of those. The new recipe is like basic mainstream chocolate. Like if you're like, Nestle Aero Bar, that's quality.

You will like the new recipe. But the old recipe is a way more like traditional proper chocolate. Can people confirm? Okay, so the order is correct? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, so they just, they went mainstream and basic probably because people were like ew and they were sitting there going okay well why are we spending so much to put so much real cocoa in this we might as well give them the the swill that they like sorry swill is a drink thing but uh yeah give give them the trash that they like yeah um man honestly i don't get it though because you can just get lint chocolate at the grocery store which is gonna absolutely destroy both his original recipe and the new recipe but hey like you know influencer product right if you like what mr beast does and you want to support him i i i got i got no problem with that but i do think their branding is like world's best chocolate bar is um how do you get away with that world's best chocolate world's best pizza what does that even

what does that even what does that even mean define that yourself yeah i mean i guess but i would think you'd have to i don't know i i'm sure whoever worked on his marketing gave some thought to it or something. Elijah Lint is gross. Yeah, but Elijah, have you eaten any foods? You tried a mango for the first time a month ago. What do you even know about food? I'm sorry. Was that the first time? That was the first time he'd ever eaten a mango.

It's like, come on, man. I don't know with him sometimes. Because his whole innings thing no he knows he's just trying to mess with us yeah so you think he's trying to mess with you no no i don't think so you don't think you think that's actually the first time yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know i don't know i'm 27 years young had never eaten a mango i'm a little sus a little sus i don't think he would lie about that were you there for you weren't there for the conversation i thought i was there for him eating it though yeah no no we offered him some

man he's like i've never tried that before hockey night yeah yeah that was before i got there i had mango drinks and dried stuff so he had dried but he'd never eaten fresh mango okay okay okay so basically what i'm gonna take food advice from someone who's never tried fresh fruit like no i'm sorry i'm not i'm not gonna do that it's not gonna be like that um right all right what's next right i'm trying right i'm trying to blow through these things so that we oh oh oh this is very important uh we need you guys to help us um i've got notes from tanner i have an entire doc about this good lord i might have to do this later holy crap it's like four pages though this is very very important okay

tanner dan don't let me forget i will get to this after uh we've got a float plane early release guys if you're subscribed on float plane you're going to want to go check this out we've got cable managing sammy's setup sponsored by secret lab this is a whole new series for us so we've got an early release i think this is coming out this weekend or something like that anyway um we are going to be starting by doing a couple of internal people setups so we started with sammy dan is coming next we will be cable managing his setup. And then, assuming that people like the content format, we are going to be opening it up to the audience. If it goes well on this continent,

we will be opening it up worldwide. I will personally show up at your f***ing house with cable management products in hand, and I will cable manage your disaster. How did you agree to this? I got to sell magnetic cable management. You don't like travel management yeah but i gotta sell the cable management wow i mean the whole thing's basically just an ad for cable

management products and like we vlog and we have some fun and it's it's entertaining it's a good video it sounds fun it's legitimately i'm just surprised you're willing to fly for it like we got all these tips on like i think it's gonna be great great ways to manage cables totally it's it's look look and that way you'll find more unique setups. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times, I am all about how many W's I can stack, right? Win-win is not enough for me. I want win-win-win-win, okay?

So I want to personally win, you know, by selling some cable management. I want the company to win by getting, you know, great content for our audience. It'll be good our audience and making money and paying its employees to develop new products. I want the audience to win. I want the audience to win getting content that they love to watch.

They love these kind of vlogs where we're working on upgrading people's setups. And the big winners, the ones who actually win the prize, I want them to win. I want the sponsor to win because they've got these good vibes associated with their product everybody wins you know if you if you start jet setting this often all you need to do all you need to do is make a cool many more millions of dollars no big deal right you got that uh and then buy a plane no problem and then floatplane support joe has offered to be your your private pilot so a plane not that expensive a hanger oh that too yeah yeah very expensive also planes that can go across continents dude quite expensive you are talking

small cessnas are one thing the second you can do super long range you are talking to someone who has flown one time one time in his entire life in business class oh yeah me too one time it was by i don't remember some sponsor ended up doing the flights for us and we realized like as we got on where on the plane we were going it was brandon and i were both just like what and we came out of the experience you know some people are like i did it once i could never go back we came out of the experience be like i'm never paying for that because we looked at the price difference versus what we got. We're like, bro, no.

I mean, we both got here, right? Yeah, exactly. Like, I don't know. Yeah, man, there is, I cannot. Oh, man, I'm trying to think. Okay, because like, like Taylor Swift was like flying from her like overseas ass concert

to like watch travis kelsey play in like super bowl or whatever and like you know what i get it if you've got that kind of resource man i got such a kick that's an irrelevant amount of money i got such a kick out of people being like taylor swift is now a billionaire earlier this year i'm like are you kidding me okay if my stupid company no offense to my company got an offer my highly intelligent company yeah if if this if this got valued at a tenth of a billion dollars at one point are you kidding me that she just crossed the line you don't think taylor swift is worth a hundred of me not 10 times please are you kidding me anyway um okay so on the one hand like i get it when you have that level of resources if you

can just just buy a plane joe if you can just if you can just hop to your boyfriend's football game like i can see why she would do it, but I legitimately, I legitimately have a very difficult time imagining a world where I would do anything other than commercial air travel. Like, I just, I don't, I don't, I don't think I can, I don't think I can accept it.

Helicopter. I mean, Joe can't fly that. Helicopter. That would have done great for Kobe. I'm serious actually reasonable those things are death traps the amount of times I hear do you know why they call it the Jesus nut?

because it's not because he did it on your face no it's because there is one nut one nut because it's perfect and he doesn't need two sorry because there is one nut. One nut. Because it's perfect and he doesn't need two. Sorry, sorry. There is one nut. He lost the other one in an industrial accident.

We don't bring that up. There is one nut that gets torqued onto the top of the rotor assembly that holds the rotor blades in place. If it comes loose, for whatever reason, on this vibrating ass, spinning ass contraption, if it comes loose, the rotors go, and the helicopter falls out of the sky.

So you call it the Jesus nut because you pray to Jesus it never comes off. Okay, those things are flipping scary. Okay, have you flown in a helicopter you've been in a helicopter average helicopter crash at around nine per 100 000 flight hours that seems crazy high okay luke have you been in a helicopter before yes a few times okay they're made of fucking cardboard yeah that's kind of true i was i was looking at the thing i was going like that's it okay so that answers the question then not the helicopter route time to buy a plane and joe can fly it for you easy you know what okay taryn you know constantly coming up and down yeah that there's got to be a cost to that there There's got to be a cost to that. It's a lot less than a plane.

You could just get a plane, and then when he's not, when he's not going up and down. What about a plane timeshare? This is what I'm saying. You could rent Taylor Swift's plane when she's not going to her boyfriend's football games. Taylor Swift doesn't know who I am.

Be the change you want to see in the world. Maybe if you went to a foosball game once in a while when you say football like that it's a black and white ball when when he's not flying terran you know he can fly other people boom now you have a new company boom new company oh lordy um solved i'll say this when personal like one passenger plus like your backpack v tall never gonna happen will not happen in our lifetimes have you met people who drive cars what what sorry i can't tell whose side are on you think it's going to be ai or not you i i think the only possible way is if it's like predefined routes or ai driven or something that i don't think it's like traffic accidents gone up since tesla introduced self-driving cars

i don't know man no idea there's a lot of companies trying to build these things they're gonna fail stop it and that's okay that is something that i would legitimately move for i would relocate to an area that allows me to have my own personal like like little quadcopter that i can fly to work in see if you just if you just want a personal plane you can already do that yeah but that where am i gonna fly it to i don't want to go anywhere on staff who can fly it i just go to work and back you just you just buy a plane it's simple look i got a motorcycle it's simple and people are like oh yeah you know like i i did like a six hour ride up to squaw mission back and i did this

i did that i'm like yeah i drove to work i excuse me i rode to work and then i rode home i don't go anywhere i don't i don't want to go anywhere i just i just want i just want to go to work in my little private plane that's all so anything that i can't land in my backyard i'm not even interested in i don't even want it there you go joe there's the specs for the plane it has to be able to land in linus's backyard there's a pool there careful careful oh man get a heli land in your yard and land at the office do you have any idea the kind of letter i would get from our strata council if i tried to land a helicopter at our office. You don't think they'd like it? Is that guy still around?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Neighbor Steve. He might be down. He's our neighbor. Just tell him you're friends with Taylor Swift. There we go. Yeah, but it's never going to happen. Laws are not going to allow this.

I will move. I will move to the UAE. No, you won't. I won't move to the UAE. No, you won't. That is false. uae no you won't i won't move to the uae oh you won't that was false where where would potentially allow this nevada that you yeah they're in a desert there's not a lot of like you know people where are you even flying to at that point texas texas i will join mr musk in texas if i can have a jetson you

wouldn't move to texas i i would consider it i would strongly consider it is that where we're gonna have the cult can we have these in the cult um you know what you can wash mine in the company of texas i'm down cultists are allowed to wash my personal aircraft do thank you sir thank you for the property will be insanely more affordable. I need to pause for a second. Cult. Cult. Guys, that's a joke.

This is a joke we have where we should form a cult and I should be the leader. I am playing a character. Touch grass. Okay, cool. The non-joke is that Lys is going to buy a plane for Joe to fly. No, that's not happening. That is totally happening. We do live near the islands.

He could buy a float plane. Yeah. They are. Joe can train to fly a float plane. And land it extremely. No problem. And land it where? Fraser River.

Yeah, your lake cabin. You go to Bowen Island. So what, I'm going to live on the Fraser River? Port Browning is really nice. It smells disgusting. It's a little icky. Ganges. Go to Ganges. You know what? I am sure that Joe

could drive the car from the float plane dock to your... Chauffeur? Yeah. Chauffeur. Plane and car chauffeur. There you go. I don't think he'd mind. As long as he gets to fly the plane. We did a fraction of our topics today. We are less than half of the way through our topics.

And I need to kind of sort of go. You have to leave three minutes ago. Okay. If you have to go, then you've got to go. But it means that we are in for... I can hear. I can check, maybe. We are in for an adventure.

The U.S. government has put a 25% tax back on Chinese assembled motherboards, PC cases, and graphics cards. The tariff was paused for a year to collect industry feedback. It's unknown when it will resume, but the Biden administration has indicated that it will be steeply increasing tariffs on other Chinese goods like semiconductors, lithium ion EV batteries, and electric vehicles. The tariff on semiconductors is the steepest and will be increasing from 25% to 50%. This is going to be a problem, but it may not be as much of a problem as you would think

because a lot of these companies moved their assembly or at least diversified their assembly outside of China in order to get around this back when the Trump administration put it in place. Scarlett Johansson is having a bit of johansson sorry excuse me um is having a bit of a tiff with open ai over a voice that um people including her say sounds eerily similar to her which is her that is to say uh the movie her which uh is like the ai in the movie her which is voiced by her which is uh scarlett johansson who is having this dispute okay she did the voice, her, which is voiced by her, which is, uh, Scarlett Johansson, who is having this dispute.

Okay. She did the voice for her. Um, so we're good. We've got a couple of quick voice comparisons here. Can we, can we listen? Can we listen?

We ready? Oh, also while, while we figure that out, uh, I, I won't say the thing we're doing, but I have a response from Wendell.

Cool. Is he down? He's down and he has some suggestions. Nice. I knew yeah okay when did you give it to yourself well right when you asked me if i had a name i thought yeah he's right i do need a name but i wanted to pick a good one so i read a book called how to name your baby and out of 180 000 names that's the one i like a bedtime story about robots and love i got you covered gather round barrett once upon a time in a world i actually don't think those sound that similar um maybe the inflections the first one was actually her right yeah yeah okay because i was listening to the first one

and i was partially focused on my phone when you were teeing up the topic. God, what a sexy voice. And I was like, that sounds... What? She has a super sexy voice. What? Who? Scarlett Johansson.

You don't think so? What a comment. What? Why do you think she was cast for the part? It's just a weird comment. It's not like it's a controversial take. All right. You're basic.

Got him. it's a controversial take all right you're basic um got him you like the voice that whoever directed this movie thought you would like sorry sorry sorry you know what i like the backstreet boys too what are you gonna do about it that is pretty basic come at me that is that is pretty they're cool they're the backstreet dads now and they're just as cool as they were if not more so yeah listening to that first one i was like wow that does really sound like her that i didn't realize it was from the movie the second one it it sounds like uh you know inspired by uh i don't even think it does i don't think it sounds anything like her I don't think it sounds if you yeah like I didn't hear it and immediately think her but maybe it sounds like a bad

impressionist trying to be her if that makes sense like not an actual impressionist just like your friend yeah I don't know I I'm afraid anyway there's a whole thing where like they apparently reached out to her to be the voice and she refused and then there's some other stuff going on over at open ai and people are concerned about the company's direction i don't

know i i'm i'm so sorry i feel like this is almost like uh what what was it like lindsey lohan or something that was upset about one of the gta cover art things what was that lindsey lohan or something that was upset about one of the gta cover art things what was that lindsey lohan i think so i don't remember who it was but i remember that was a thing gta yeah yeah this like really i i i'm sorry but that is that is the most npc npc you know blonde bikini person ever like your hair's curly here hers isn't i'm like i don't know man i just no like people posing with the peace sign at that time was super common check your messages oh no not yours oh well for you never message anyway what i'm kidding uh there's a bilingual brain implant i don't know maybe next week um

yeah okay the last thing that you really need to weigh in is that battle state games has tripped over their own again again yeah so you don't know about this okay following battle state games decision to undermine its 150 edge of darkness edition of tarkov with a 250 unheard edition with an exclusive pve mode and various other pay-to-win goodies yeah some players caved and shelled out the additional hundred dollars to upgrade a few days later battle state reduced the cost of upgrading by half but instead of refunding those players the 50 difference they gave them a single use 50 in-game voucher if the player buys something that costs less than 50

they lose the remaining value yeah could these guys be more cartoonishly anti-consumer if they tried i think this is maybe just something that we didn't cover at the time but this is this is fairly old at this point um i think they've gone somewhat quiet for a while just realizing every single thing that they were doing was bad and dumb um so they stopped doing things because that was actually better for them i mean that's not a terrible approach yeah um it was sure weird especially the lose the remaining value thing but i think i get it i'm assuming that they just don't have like a credit system yeah probably hanlon's razor it's probably not malicious it probably i think some things that they do complete and utter incompetence yeah but hanlon's razor doesn't say there's never malice right it says don't attribute

to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence and i think you're right i think this falls under probably incompetence i think so just because like they try to do all the things themselves right oh so popular hello can you check my message okay please do that okay this one's a lot closer maybe it's kate upton i don't know i don't remember who it was i mean was it no no it was lindsey lohan oh okay yeah yeah yeah but reddit was looking for something that was more similar apparently yeah sorry apparently a bunch of people thought that was their phones my bad i lied i have one more topic okay icq is no more oh yeah i didn't know it was still a thing me neither okay but it's set to shut down on june 26th which is in two days after nearly 30 years of operation should we buy it

oh mate be better than teams can we use icq internally please can we can we ssoQ? Oh my gosh. ICQ Slack integration. Guys, that's not actually an option. I'm meaning it. You suck. It's June 26, not... Oh, sorry.

It's May. I got my hopes up. Yeah, I don't know. Should we buy it? Wouldn't that be hilarious? Is it potentially for sale? I don't know. Users are encouraged to migrate messaging platforms from parent company vk vk who is this i don't know probably it's venture capital with a k like it's probably some holding company who knows have i

ever ever i've ever told you about the name of ea game one of the ea games is mobile companies no capital games i hope they sit on tax oh that's pretty good it's pretty good it's pretty good yeah it's pretty good wow ah worse uh okay we've got something really important for you guys yeah here sorry one sec i'm just gonna yes yes yes capital games yes yes oh it's funny sorry uh yeah oh so i've got my notes from Tanner here. We need your help. Okay?

So this is up to date as of three days ago. We are trying to digitize the full quality masters of Reboot, the first computer animated TV series. The Reboot master tapes are in a D1 format. There were only six models of VTRs that used that format, and only two or three of them will likely be able to read

these particular master tapes. The VTRs that will work are the DCR-300 and the DCR-500 from Broadcast Television Systems, which was a Bosch and Philips partnership. We purchased three VTRs. Oh, good Lord. We apparently purchased a dcr 300 and two dcr 500s and we've had some small playback test successes confirming that the tapes

are in surprisingly good shape and it says yeah see bottom of dog it looks great okay so here we've been working on this in the background for a while because we just think this is pretty sick and good vibes and oh my god yeah that looks so good yeah okay man now i want to watch some reboot okay anywho yeah oh man that's super exciting um very clean all right the problem one of the dcr 500s was working for a short time however it is now experiencing errors and while all three machines have some sort of issue there should be enough to cobble together something that works the main error we're getting across the machines is servo reference v pulse frequency too high the machines will not load or play back without clearing these checks we've tried tracking down the company that made them so far none of our contacts have been able

to find anything um these particular machines were manufactured by bts from 1992 to 1995 which meant a different thing back then phillips took over bts in 1995 which then turned into okay this is a lot of thank you tanner uh these are a lot of tanner details uh let me distill it down um thompson broke up a blog a grass valley inc may have taken over the d1 hardware back catalog but our contacts there were not able to find anything the parts that didn't go to grass valley inc were sold to partner capital group in 2008 something something something prasad Studios didn't have any information for us. They are based in India where it appears the D1 format was never in use. Replacing capacitors

is something that we have tried and we apparently had replacement rollers fabricated and replaced where they were degraded. What we are looking for, ah yes, this is what I was looking for. Manuals for the DCR-300cr 300 and dcr 500 we're missing operators manual circuit diagrams part one and bts's internal service manuals we also are looking for some specialized tools we would like to get extender board 1409 for tape deck adjustment tape dr5 and any additional calibration tapes we also would love to get in touch with some experts if you have hands-on experience with bts d1 machines particular the d particularly the dcr 300 or dcr 500 doesn't matter what region you have experience in um they had offices in netherlands

salt lake city utah singapore brazil france burbank california and mulgrave australia odds are good if anyone knows about these machines they would have worked at or near one of these locations what we are not looking for armchair technicians that think they might know what the issue is we have plenty of those internally sorry my finger slipped um rude we are not looking for technicians with similar for a familiarity with similar players these were produced in a time when tech standards were fast loose and constantly changing we are not looking for anyone to cold call any of the companies involved do not cold call on our behalf we've already done it don't harass people it's it's stupid um we're not looking for anything

that is built for a tape deck that is not the d's stupid um we're not looking for anything that is built for a tape deck that is not the d1 format and we are not looking for external options to capture the tapes we want to learn and share the knowledge not just hire a capture service the contact information is right here this is very important reboot rewindewind Doc at gmail.com. If you can legitimately help us with any of those things we said we do need and not the things that we said we don't need. Very hopeful that we can restore Reboot to its former glory. That would be super cool.

I had heard we were interested in doing that. I didn't know Tanner was doing any work on that. Yeah, dog. This is very cool to hear. Epic. Yep. Keep going. Yeah, I was like, blank check, let's go.

And then apparently we bought three f***ing machines. Apparently it's an extremely blank check. Yeah. A blank check with a really long underscore on it. Look, I think it's... I think it's... It's cool. It's very cool.

It starts a lot of conversations about how we think of the internet, It's cool. It's very cool. of data creation have gotten larger and larger we are actually at risk of losing more and more and more unless we make a concert a concerted effort to preserve what we had what was important and this is again you know back to you know the skin that i have in the game it's a canadian show uh produced here in canada and it is i i believe of historical significance being the first animated computer animated tv show so yeah toy story pretty special moment um reboot also a pretty special moment in in computer graphics but i also have to leave see you later goodbye sort of not end of show asks how's this better quality than blu-ray you can't make a blu-ray without the master tapes these are the master tapes these are where the episodes are stored they're not available in their original quality

anywhere else so this is so that there could be a blu-ray potentially yeah so cool um all right so i guess it's uh just you and me oh uh hi let's go with not this view, maybe. I mean, yeah, that's not great either. How about that? How about just move yourself over there? Is that a thing that you... You didn't even manage to go in the right direction. It's backwards.

It's backwards. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, sure. I don't know if we want to put Dan in the chair because he's logged into all this stuff over there and it'll be a bit of a hassle for him to do that over here and we've still got to do merch messages i think it's time for when show after dark so uh shall we shall we do that sure i really sincerely wish that i had used the uh fact that luke was still here to run to the washroom earlier because now i just get to hold it for the rest of the show cool all right hit me

dan sure sure we'll try and make this uh working uh hey so now echo and nad i recently got an rfid collar cat feeders to prevent them stealing food from each other and they have been awesome is there any pet related tech that you ended up loving i had one of those rfid um kitty doors and the idea was that one of the cats would be allowed out into the garage and one of them wouldn't they ended up being so strong our cats um the bangles that they were both able to just force the door open in either direction but the concept was pretty cool because the idea was you could authorize in, out, in and out, or nothing on a per microchip basis. I have not actually ended up investing in much pet technology. My cats just seem to be too smart to care about anything that's not actually human controlled.

Like you can't just have a little you know thing on a motor that just kind of moves around they just they get bored of it hey dll when did ltd writers start getting more screen time and what goes into deciding when a writer is or isn't featured on a particular video this has been a different answer at various stages in the company's history i mean the first time a writer was featured on screen was when Luke joined me for WAN Show like 10 years ago or something like that. As for what goes into deciding when a writer is

or isn't featured in a particular video, there's a number of criteria that we look at internally. James is actually the one who created kind of a rubric for determining whether someone should be on camera and what are the success metrics that we're going to be looking for. It's something that's not actually rolled out yet, because up until now, it's been a little bit more gut feel. But there are definitely things that we that we look for. I mean, we look at subject matter passion. That's something that's

really important to us because you can you can train people to be somewhat functional on camera but you can't train someone to actually care about the thing that they're talking about and genuine caring about it is in a lot of ways a lot easier than learning to act like you care about it right so if we just take people who are genuinely really interested and passionate and excited, you know, even if they are, you know, let's say a relatively low energy personality, right? Like, you look at your high energy personalities, the people like me or an Alex, and you compare that to someone that is maybe more of a low energy personality, like a Nicholas Plouffe, he can still be really excited and you can still get engaged with that um because he just genuinely cares right so it makes up for a lot of differences

in style that might otherwise not really work um one of the things is you know how well do we want the video to perform it's no secret that a video will perform better if it's hosted by me. And the more hosted by me, it is the more better. I mean, it's something that Mr. Beast has talked about on his videos where his supporting cast appears for an extended period of time, retention goes down. It's people subscribe to these channels and the closest parasocial relationship they have is with the primary host of these channels. The closest parasocial relationship they have is with the primary host of these channels.

And you can kind of, you can have other personalities be part of it, but they are less permanent than the primary hosts of these channels. I mean, like, I don't, I don't know for certain that Luke will be on LTT forever. I think so. I mean, we're buddies. We're good. He believes in the company he believes in our mission all these things are aligned but at the end of the day you know an employee doesn't have the same level of permanence as the owner founder host um so you know that's something that

has to be carefully considered when you're going to start grooming someone for on-camera appearances and and investing in both that that training of them for for the new job that they're doing and training the audience to get to get used to seeing them right so there's man there's a lot of things to consider but i'd say the biggest ones are are just you know how much is the audience going to like this because at the end of the day, you guys are the boss. And if you guys like it, then it's good and it works. And if you guys don't like it, then it doesn't work and the whole thing collapses, right? Oh, let's see.

Hey, Dale L., who would you like to invite next to the WAN show? I find myself still thinking about the conversations with Jim Keller and telling anyone that will listen. I find myself still thinking about the conversations with Jim Keller and telling anyone that will listen. I find myself still thinking about the conversation with Jim Keller. That was great. I have not had any particular thoughts on someone else we'd like to invite to the WAN show. That one just kind of fell into my lap. I still have a lot of the same concerns that I had around having him as a guest, right? Like we almost never start on time because our schedules are, are hectic and, and, and difficult. So anytime we have a guest who, you know, earns more in a day than I'm worth in six months, right? Like I, and I don't necessarily

think that Mr. Keller is paying himself that much. I just mean, if we were to bring on, okay, let's say, let's say Jensen, right? If we were to invite Jensen to the WAN show, it's like, I don't know, how many cents did the NVIDIA stock go up in the last half an hour while he's been waiting for us, right? Like I, it's something that I feel self-conscious about. That's for sure. I don't want to disrespect anybody.

And if I know that I'm probably not going to be on time, then I'd rather just not book the meeting. So there's a little bit of that and a little bit of just like, it's tough to find the right balance, right? Like I've definitely seen other tech creators that have platformed people that I honestly wouldn't have been that comfortable with. A lot of people are hyper influential, but um have things to answer for that i would feel obligated to ask them like i i there are a number of people in the billionaire class that if i had them on the show like think about it for yourself with jim keller it's no problem let's talk about you know

microprocessor design future of computing amazing conversation what a great guy um but you know he doesn't have a lot of baggage as far as i'm aware like if if i had one of like one of the the you know the real titans like one of the one of the one of the billionaires right if i had one of those on the show like if i brought if i brought in jensen if i didn't ask him why he doesn't give two shits about gamers anymore would you guys be happy with that right so what am i going to do i'm going to bring these guys on i'm going to do a puff piece i'm just going to like ask them questions they want to answer and and that's it like look at man look at how much um elon musk's demeanor changed as soon as don lemon started asking him the questions that he should be answering he basically goes i don't have, I don't have to answer your questions.

Yeah, because that's his attitude. He doesn't think he owes anybody a f***ing explanation for anything. It's that arrogance that I would feel obligated to challenge if I have someone here on my platform in front of your eyeballs. That's my responsibility, and I'd honestly rather just not have him on.

Hey Linus, when renovating your home was it worth it to you to install outlets with usb both type a and c in convenient places or did you decide using charging block was better i wish that i had done some of them with usb ports i uh we didn't we just left all the original outlets because we didn't want to throw money in a dumpster for no reason uh but i i definitely wish that I'd strategically put some in. In fact, I bought a couple and they're still sitting in my bin of stuff to do to strategically install like under the kitchen counter and like in a couple of other places, I, I considered at one point replacing all of them. And if we were going to replace them, I was going to be like, ah, screw it. I don't know, get the USB ones.

Uh, but then I looked at the price difference. I like oh okay actually you know what just forget the whole thing put the original ones back in uh but yeah i'm gonna go around i'll do it myself in an afternoon or something like that it's if you i i i'm not recommending that you do that in fact in some places it's illegal to work on your own house in that manner but i um i have the capability of replacing a duplex receptacle so you know just to turn off the breaker, make sure all the things go in the right place. So I do intend to do that at some point. Hi, WAN.dll.

Buying this as a Father's Day gift. My question is for Luke. Well, hmm, awkward. I've worked at a startup that does web scraping. What are your thoughts on the laws that protect from it? Right now, it's a gray zone. Linus, do you have any thoughts for Luke? Sure, yeah.

Luke generally believes in an open internet and understands the complexities and challenges around allowing anyone unlimited access to your API. So that's why you obviously can't just pull as many requests that way as you want. So that's one of the reasons that screen scraping is done. He also understands the value of protecting your data, protecting your content, and understands why, you know, a website might try to protect against screen scraping. you know i think he's going to balance that knowledge against his general belief in um that information should be openly available

to people and so i think he would probably have a nuanced take rather than a yay or nay this should be a thing or this shouldn't be a thing there. I did my best. I'm pretty sure that's something like what Luke would say. I got another question for Luke. Dang it! I, uh, whoops. Have you followed anything with the game Dark and Darker? Have you? You don't play extraction shooters.

Nope, I haven't. Luke? Luke? Okay. Luke? He's not going to answer. Luke! Hey, Wundal!

Question mostly for Linus. Hey, we got one. Nice. Are there any other VR games aside from Beat Saber that you use to work out? I personally love Until You Fall. Man, Beat Saber just kind of became my thing. I definitely liked Hollow Point before that. It's a, wow, is that ever a dynamic game.

Once you get past the first couple of levels, you're diving, you're ducking, you're dodging. Really cool. If you haven't played it before, basically basically you've got a bow and arrow and you've got to you've got to shoot these things that they turn red gradually and then when they do they fire something at you and when you break them they fire something at you so you basically have to hit them and immediately dodge every single time you take one down you gotta and you gotta be looking all around you all the time because they they spawn in and then they start changing color and then you get up a little bit higher and then

like guys start coming at you on the ground it's it's it's crazy when the pandemic yes i was trying to do the aunt beru voice thank you for catching it quantum rand when the pandemic hit we went from one to one chromebooks we went to one to one chromebooks as an it teacher trying to certify students in the a plus i have students that have never used windows it's becoming an issue how can i prep them you can't um uh yeah no but this is what i'm talking about this is what i'm talking about you've got an entire generation of kids who the only computer that they might interface with on a regular basis is a chromebook um i think a plus is going to have to kind of like figure that figure that out a little bit and that's going to have to be part

of their prep materials that they develop and let's see last one i've got for you here hey lld i've seen some big youtube channels starting their own streaming services recently. Did they contact you about Floatplane? Has the moment for Floatplane as a service arrived? No, I think we would need to hire someone whose entire job is to build out Floatplane's offering. And it's very clear to me that there are streaming services that could benefit from our team's expertise i i i tuned into the canucks short-lived playoff run and i discovered that um sportsnet plus which

is owned by rogers which is a media giant here in canada um isp slash mobile network provider anyway they they own the broadcasting rights for um that particular series i think the nhl in canada i don't know whatever i i forget how the rights work it's been a long time since i've followed it closely the point is i was watching on roger sports net plus and um hilariously i discovered that they have not figured out a DRM protection scheme that protects their streams from users simply logging in, opening a stream window, getting a session key, and then just sharing that with anyone.

They are not actually doing any user account authentication. We solved that like five or six years ago. And I'm sitting here going, dude, we've got like half a dozen people. What are you even doing? So, yeah, there's definitely opportunities there with companies that have money. We just haven't developed that business because we're doing other stuff. I don't know what to tell you. I would love for Floatplane to really take off but as it is it's it's still doing fine like we've got i

think like 35 000 subscribers on floatplane right now to ltt alone we've got other creators on the platform um but it's just kind of doing its thing it's doing its thing uh yeah sure um hi friends it's my husband's birthday on the third and he always listens to the wan show on podcast could you give him a shout out he wishes there was more wan show throughout the week well it would help if you told me his name um but hey i'm gonna do this the best way that i can um shout out mikaela m's husband so that's that that worked out great and i think oh we've got a problem oh no we do we do have a problem hold on i think i have a solution i can't push the button i think i think i have a solution it's illegal uh i i've got this i've got this hold on uh hey we've got a bit of a problem

what all right thanks for tuning into the wan show we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye! Thanks, Luke. Bye. Outro Music