The WAN Show - Microsoft DOESN'T CARE - WAN Show Aug 16, 2019

Episode Date: August 17, 2019

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Let's do it. We're starting streaming, we're live, just so you guys know, and you know, we're on the WAN show. Welcome. It's a NAW show, dude. It's been a- it's right, it's a NAW show. This is a bonafide NAW show. Cause it's James and I. It's- yes, it's backwards. We did like a half NAW last week.

What is that called? A-wanna- a-wanna. A-wanna? Either way, we got some stuff to talk about this week, including the jackets, but not currently right now. We have to talk about Microsoft continuing to listen to voice recordings for stuff like Cortana. We're talking about Facebook opening privacy cafes, like actual physical locations.

I have an opinion. Where they serve you drinks and teach you about your Facebook privacy settings. Okay. All that and more. After the intro. Rally intro. Yeah, only two topics announced.

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Pia. Back to the show. Okay, so let's talk about our title topic right away, just because I think that makes people happy. So, Microsoft continuing their human listening program. In recent weeks, reports have emerged that Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook, and now Microsoft all have audio recordings from their various services reviewed by human contractors to assist in the development of virtual assistants slash AI. This includes Skype and Cortana, as far as I know, from Microsoft's side.

Some of these groups, as far as I know, have said, okay, we're going to stop this. I believe Apple said that. It started with Amazon. It started with Amazon. It started with Amazon. It started with Amazon and then Google and then Apple was like, hey, we do that too, but we stopped already. Oh, nice. They tried to get ahead of it. They tried to get ahead of it, yeah.

All right. And then I guess Microsoft instead was like, you know what? No. I'm doubling down. We're going to continue. We're doing it. With the dozens of people who talk to Cortana. Yeah, I was going to say, no one really uses Cortana.

I don't know. Do you know anyone who uses Cortana? No. I asked someone on Twitter recently. Have you ever tried? One time I tried to Google what you can do, because they actually have a rare opportunity insofar as I would actually love for my PC to understand. If I could do power user type tasks,

like tedious things, like rename all these pictures, James, and then enumerate one, two, three based on date. So if I could you could do that. Like, if I could do something like that. But it's a lot easier to just tell something. I could do that tediously by clicking and typing. Or I could do, like, a script. Yeah.

But if I could just tell my computer to do that, that would be wicked. Verbally. So, there are some things you can do in Excel that are kind of like that. But I don't think it's, like... Well, yeah, you wouldn't really be creating any new functionality, but you'd be making it a lot easier. Well, that's... You'd just be like, hey, you wanna, can you do this thing real quick?

And there's tons of tedious things in Excel that you wanna do like that. Because there's lots of things in Excel that you can do if you're an Excel wizard, and you also deal with the Excel quirks. Yeah. There's tons of quirks. I think taking people who know nothing about Excel or programming at all and giving them a voice assistant that can do some stuff like,

hey if this number is whatever, and this number is whatever, let's do this other. Like fairly simple if statements are actually a pretty big block for people that have never done that kind of stuff before at all. Yeah, that's true. Especially because they're written a little bit funkily in Excel.

If you've done programming, you're like, oh, that's easy. It's no big deal. Yeah, especially because they're written a little bit fungally in Excel if you've got programming, but you're like it's no big deal Yeah, yeah, but if you haven't touched that stuff before at all ever and you're you're like relatively tech illiterate But you need to do some like weird Excel sheet thing for work, and you've never done it before and bubble Yeah, if you just be like hey Cortana do this thing that would be pretty it's funny How with every it seems like every subject? There's like it's not linear when you're learning. There's things that are like S-curvy. It's like, if you're learning guitar, once you know bar chords,

then you're good to go. Or like, once you know if statements in Excel, then you can do so much more. Yeah. Yeah, because Excel is pretty basic until you start diving into some of those. The thing that's weird about this is like, actually, if you are like the odds that, let me restart. If you're on Amazon, okay, or Google Assistant, and you say something to Google Assistant, the odds that your recording is the one that one of their employees listens to is so little.

Because there's so many people using this stuff. Like, what are the odds that they actually listen to my recording? So few, but no one uses Cortana. So if you actually use Cortana, the odds that you're one of the people that's getting listened to are like way higher. But it might be 50-50.

It might be all of them. Might be every person. It is Cortana and Skype. So if they completely mix that pool, then maybe it's not that high. It might be every person. It is Cortana and Skype. Okay. So if they completely mix that pool, then maybe it's not that high because there are definitely still a pretty big user base as far as I know for Skype. For sure.

Mostly old people as far as I know. That is actually an assumption that I have is as far as I know, it's more business-y kind of folks that use Skype. It was popular there for a little bit in the gaming space, but it was a little annoying to use, and then Discord showed up and was like, what up? There's a concept called excess inertia.

Yeah, excess inertia in economics, where if something, basically it's like, you will stay on a platform longer than you should, and you're suffering because of it, but it's just because it's what we all use. Like, we all should have switched to Google Plus instead of Facebook. We know it's better, it has better features,

but there's network effects with social media, so we're already on Facebook, and my friends are on Facebook, but if I go to Google Plus, no one's on it, so there's no value then. So none of us are switching, right? I feel like in the B2B world, that is harder. Way more hardcore, yeah. Like, hey, you work here?

We've been using GoToMeeting for 10 years. So we're still using GoToMeeting. And no one else is using that anymore. One of the things I find amazing is when I have calls with relatively big companies that have relatively expensive conferencing setups setups and they just sound like garbage Like it's really hard to understand anyone. It's super crackly. It's terrible and I'm like I use my setup for gaming And it sounds great And I understand there's like they're doing with multi array mics and a bunch of people in one room and stuff

but still like, wow. That's because gamers are mean to each other. And if you start talking, someone on your team will be like, why do you sound like dog crap? Why is your mic in your throat? Whereas that never happens in business. It's always like, hey, how are you? The worst though is when you're on a conference call

and if someone, if two people talk at the same time at all, if their voices overlap at all, it's just like no one heard anything. Yeah. We all have to restart. All useless. Sorry, what was that? Anyways, the company has updated its privacy policy

and FAQs for Cortana and Skype, Skype Translator, okay, to make it clear that audio may be listened to by Microsoft employees or contractors to ensure accurate transcription. So they're telling you now, but no one's going to read that, so not really. Yeah, exactly. They're basically like, we know that our... We did the legal stuff. Yeah.

Whatever. I'm not mad at this at all. Like, the whole... I don't even agree that the other companies, Amazon and Apple and Google, should have even changed. Because it's like, what do you think? Like, we all want our cake and eat it, too. Like, do you want the Google Assistant to understand you? Do you want these voice things to, like, really work well?

I do. I want that to happen now instead of five years from now. So can we please just like, yeah they're listening to you, who cares? I feel like it should be a more overt consent thing. Like I will throw Microsoft a bone here. When you're setting up like Windows 10, there's all those little switch settings.

Like what do I want to share with Microsoft, more or less? And I think it would probably be better if you could be like, yeah, no. I realize most people would say no. But the thing with that is like... But I would like that option. You're using Microsoft for so many different reasons, whereas like when I buy a Google Home,

when I buy an Echo, it's like that's what it's for. Yeah, but it's listening into stuff that it shouldn't. Like they've, in these articles, it's been like, oh yeah, we have tons of audio of people banging and whatever else. And I don't think someone was like, okay, Google. Like, I don't know. You know what I mean?

Oh, sorry. But I'm sure everyone just got their phones and devices pinged. But, like, I don't, like, there's a lot of false reports. The amount of, if I've gone through my, like, audio log, like, all the saved audio recordings it has for mine, a huge amount of it is just me driving. Okay. I'm not intending to talk to my phone. There's tons of me just driving.

One thing you can do is... Can you do this in the car? One thing you can do is you can make there be a sound when it's listening. When you're like, hey, and it goes... Now it's listening. It goes... But I have my phone fully muted all the time. when it's listening, when you're like, hey, and it goes, now it's listening, it goes, ba-doom. But I have my phone fully muted all the time.

Right, your phone. I'm talking about the one on my Google phone at home. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. It goes, ba-doom, and then I speak, and I also have it on continuous conversation mode. So if I just have a one line that I want to say to it, which is most of the time, I go, hey, ba-doom, thing I want to say to you.

It goes, okay, but then it goes, badunk, and listens again, and it'll listen for like eight more seconds, and that's usually, I'm not saying anything to it in that time. So that's like, that means that almost every time I use it, there's eight seconds of it listening to not be talking to it, which is a ton. But I know, I want to say that they can't, like it's data that is useless,

but wasn't there a, there was like a news site where they actually, they heard the recordings and then they tried to find the people and they called people up like, hey, we reached you just from listening to the recordings that, I'm so brain dead today. Whichever company. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying.

Yeah. But I just, I'm okay with this kind of Whichever company. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. But I just, I'm okay with this kind of stuff if it's more overt. I don't want it in the terms of service. I want it in your face. And if someone's like, yeah, okay, whatever, cool. I just think a lot of people, for some reason, still assume privacy. Like they shouldn't with any of these devices but they do so they think like oh this recording is just going to some AI and

then doing whatever and then there's no human listening and everything's fine but they assume privacy and I think as long as you're like hey not private that's fine because it's a it's not a government thing it's a company thing you're not obligated to own this thing you could not buy it and uh like apple for instance is going okay we're not going to record stuff so you have a competitor it's not like the entire monopoly of all of them is not it's that's the wrong term but it's not like all of them are doing it now so i don't know i i don't like it i don't want that to happen i want it to be an opt-in switch, all that kind of stuff.

But they can do whatever they want. Like, if you want to have one of these products and then also be as private as possible, like those two things at the same time. They don't combine very well. No. You have to say, like, okay, don't talk about, like, your address or your social and search number around this device. Yeah, but that's your phone, so like, you're probably screwed. But you could turn it off on the phone.

Like the fact of being able to hail it with it locked. Yeah, mine only goes from, or it's only supposed to, but I think it got reset somehow, only goes from holding the home button. But I think it activates. It didn't activate when I just said it. So maybe I made it some weird phrase or something. I don't know.

But I don't really use the voice activation stuff, personally. I love it. Yeah. I loved it. I liked it for a while, but I don't think it's good enough. I want it to be like... Boom! I want it to be like... If you want it to be good, they need to... No, I use it to be like Boom! I want it to be like

If you want to be good they need to they need- No I use it. Okay. Yeah, I use it a lot But I just do it manually. Yeah, well they used to have Yeah, yeah, no, but they were still using that those voice clips of when you do it manually and then the humans are listening to that Yeah, that's fine. They can listen to me set a million alarms. That's, like, basically what I use it for entirely. I don't have any home automation stuff or anything, so I just, like, set an alarm for blit, set a reminder for blit, and all my reminders, like, it doesn't understand what I'm saying at all, so it's just, like, complete garbly gook that I have to translate on the other end.

It's just, yeah, I want like, what was that movie? Is it called Her? Yeah. The like super AI thing that you form a relationship with? I want that level of AI. That's the best. Then I'm in. Everyone's in with that one.

I want a bro. I want a pocket bro. Him. Yeah, exactly. That's fantastic. I loved them. I thought the ending was a little bit of a cop-out. Personally.

I liked it. Okay, we don't want to spoil it. Yeah, let's not. I mean, the movie's five years old. You guys should check it out. Yeah, whatever. I thought it was realistic. We should move on.

You've got comments. Facebook to open up. Pop-up privacy cafes. This just sounds hilarious to me. Like, I don't really even know what to say. This is such a waste of money, you guys. They just have so much. Oh, they had to spend 20% of their annual revenue

on a fine from the EU this year. So it's like, you don't have that much money. Like, this is costing you millions. We're going to set up these little cafes that people will go to, and we'll give them free drinks in there, and then we'll teach them how to... We'll teach them about our current privacy rules.

Instead of adjusting our rules ourselves, it's not our fault. We actually have the optimal rules. We leaked all your passwords in plain text, but you should change your privacy settings. Yeah, you guys should just understand more what you're sharing with us. It's a you problem.

Yeah. That's brutal. Who's going to go to these? No one. And, furthermore, they shouldn't be cafes. They shouldn't be like a Starbucks that you go to. It should actually be like lawn bowling.

They need to set up something that attracts old people. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I feel like it's going to be old people and, like, vloggers who are going to be like, I went to the Facebook cafe because that's hilarious. I think it's going to be people who want free Wi-Fi. It's going to be like, I don't have to buy anything. I can hang out in here all day.

And Starbucks. Yeah. Starbucks is amazing when you're traveling because they're everywhere. The other day. They all have free Wi-Fi. And they have air conditioning when you're in, like, Asia. And you're traveling because they're everywhere. They all have free Wi-Fi. And they have air conditioning when you're in Asia. Yeah. You're like, ah. I don't drink coffee.

Love Starbucks when I'm traveling. The other week, I was just walking down in North Vancouver, just downtown, really had to pee. I was about to get in my car and drive for a bit. I saw a Starbucks. I was like, I can pee in there without talking to anyone. Yeah. Free bathroom. Yeah. Free bathroom. Thanks, angry people in America.

It's a form of privilege, because homeless people, they just, they walk in, and then the people working are like, no. Well, no, they don't do that anymore or whatever. Where? I thought there was this huge thing in the States, because they said no to someone, and then that person freaked out, and Starbucks had, had like sensitivity training workshops for their people and all that well there's maybe for

starbucks in particular but there's lots of different establishments that have like they've got locks on the yeah on the door and like you have to get a code and to get the code you have to talk to the person working there and they'll just just, like, say no. Or the stick with the key on it or whatever. Yeah. I think that's more of a gas station thing. Subway. Subway over here. There we go.

I love when it's just huge. It's kind of embarrassing to me. Yeah. Walking around. I need to pee. Hey, everyone. I'm going to go touch my pee-pee. I promise it won't be for too long,

but probably more than three shakes because that's just a meme. Yeah, I don't know I I just find this funny Like that the last note in the doc is seems they still don't freaking get it and yeah Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. Ah do you think no one's hilarious though? No people will go people will absolutely go Because like I wouldn't be surprised if the drinks were free. They are. Yeah. They are.

So people are going to go. It's free coffee. Do you think, um, maybe it'll work. Maybe if you, there's, like, a critical mass. When you get enough people, like, this is only London, but maybe if you get enough people who really understand how it works, then eventually you'll have, like, a culture where, like like those people are talking online and they kind of spreads around and then we just all kind of get it eventually.

Sure. You know, it doesn't happen with monkeys or something. But doesn't Facebook reset your privacy settings every time they release new privacy settings? Oh. I don't remember. That could be a complete hearsay thing do not take that as fact but I don't know either way yeah check your Facebook privacy settings also

pro tip don't post anything on Facebook it's great there's add-ons for Chrome and I believe Firefox that completely get rid of your news feed and they just put a quote there and if you have to have Facebook for communicating with family through the messenger portion you can still use that And if you have to have Facebook for communicating with family through the Messenger portion, you can still use that.

Or if you have a family group thing, you can still use that. But your news feed, probably useless. So just get rid of it. That sounds awesome. Problem solved. It's on my phone, though. Yeah. I just immediately go to the groups thing.

I actually don't use Facebook on my phone. I like to think about it. I just use the Messenger part. I used immediately go to the groups thing. I actually don't use Facebook on my phone, now that I think about it. I just use the Messenger part. I used to do that, but now I can't for reasons. Ah. Yeah. Pages. Like, there's a comedy,

there's a Vancouver stand-up comedy thing. See, but you don't use the feed. So I guess on your phone, there's probably no way to get rid of it, but just bypass, go directly to the group. Completely ignore the feed. Just don't eat junk food. Just say no.

It's harder than you'd think. YouTube allows creators to record videos to appeal demonetization. This is actually amazing. I love this. This is super cool. When I first read it, I was like, that's weird. But no, I'm totally down. Let's see if this will load. This is super cool. When I first read it, I was like, that's weird. But no, I'm totally down. Let's see if this will load.

From Ziverge. This has nothing cool on it. Okay, we're gonna go back to here. Yeah, so currently, if a YouTube content creator has their channel slash video demonetized, the only option for appealing decision is to fill out a form and wait like 30 days. Now YouTube is doing a pilot program which would allow creators to create a video, the thing that they do and are probably a lot better at than just writing appeals, about why they shouldn't be demonetized.

YouTube will reportedly respond within seven days. I think this will be a lot better. I think YouTube creators are going to be a lot more efficient and better at conveying themselves over video. And you will also be able to, I think understanding someone, the understanding of something that someone is saying improves when they're saying it to you, whether it's in person or through video. In person even more so, but video definitely as well. You know you're talking to a real person, and you know that like, you know that they can talk. They have a channel.

You don't know how good their writing skills are. So it's kind of And there's body language cues and all this other kind of stuff. If they don't want to show up on camera, it's still probably beneficial because they can show what they're talking about. So if they show their video and they scroll through the part and they explain like why it doesn't matter,

that's gonna be more effective as well. I just think it's way better overall. The program was described in an email sent to a creator and posted on r slash YouTube. Creators are, why? Okay, normally. I think this is so awesome. I wish that more things would do this.

Like, you know when you get a speaking ticket or some kind of ticket and you want to dispute it and you have to, like, go to court and, like, miss work so you can go to court and then show up and the cop has to show up and everyone has to, there's a bunch of people in the room. Can they just call me? Can I just FaceTime them and be like, look, I wasn't speeding, okay? There was a bee in there or whatever it is. Like, it would be so much faster if the judge could just be on eating popcorn and just say,

hey, it doesn't matter if it's a bee in there, you're still sped, dude. He's like, okay. I can do that on my lunch break, you know? Yeah, like Estonia. They do all their government stuff through the internet. It's crazy. People seem to like this new system.

Yeah, so do we. That's cool. It makes tons of sense. I like it. It's crazy. People seem to like this new system. Yeah, so do we. That's cool. This makes tons of sense. I like it. It's great. Fantastic. They also say the wait time should be lower. They say they'll be responding within seven days

instead of 30. That's weird to me. Well, they're just trying harder overall. But yeah, maybe they're just pushing. That's cool. I appreciate that, because this has been pissing people off for a long time. Actually, no, don't do it, YouTube.

The more you screw up, the more people want to join Flowplane. Ha, ha, ha. Darn. Anyways, Amazon sold gas for 30 cents and the police had to intervene. So Maysell, Maysell Day, I don't know, is Amazon's latest marketing campaign for the Prime video series, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. Maisel? I suppose.

I've never seen this show. Apparently it's... Me neither. There's been more than one season. Have I told you? They sent me a physical piece of mail telling me to use Prime Video. Amazon did. Oh, yeah?

Because I've had a Prime account for forever, and I've never once opened Amazon Prime Video. Oh? I don't really watch shows. It's just, I don't care. What was it like? It was like, by the way, you have access to tons of amazing content. And then you flip it over, and there's a bunch of descriptions of the shows and stuff. And I was like, wow, this is weird.

Okay, I'm not going to cancel my Prime account. You don't have to worry about it. Don't send me physical mail about the thing that I don't care about. Thank you. Goodbye. I want to watch The Boys, though. Okay,'t have to worry about it. Don't send me physical mail about the thing that I don't care about. Thank you. Goodbye. I want to watch The Boys, though. Okay, I might actually watch The Boys.

I know nothing about it, but everyone's like, hey, have you seen the show yet? I just listen to Brandon, and Brandon's like, hey, have you watched The Boys? Don't listen to Brandon. Hey, Brandon, can you hear me?

Brandon likes that stupid... He's not there. Okay. What show? What show? I want to know. I want the inside dig. What's it called? Oaksha? That show? I want to know. I want the inside dig. What's it

called? Oaksha? That show about... There's this director. He also did that that movie where they're on they're all on a train. It's post-apocalyptic. I'm too brain dead today that... A train and it's post-apocalyptic. Good God, what was that called? Oh, it was all wintery on the outside. What was that called? Snowpiercer. Something piercer. Oh! I hate that director. I hate him. I hate his guts. And he had a previous movie that's about this weird, fantastical animal.

It's kind of an animal rights movie, which I'm into. Brandon loves this movie. I thought it was hot garbage. I love Jake Gyllenhaal. Jake Gyllenhaal hurt me in that movie. And we argue about it. I can bring it up at any time if I ever want. If I was ever trying to distract Brandon,

if you were trying to sneak by him and he was right there and there was no way you could get by him, if I just walked up and was, hey, dude, that movie sucks, you would be able to sneak by him. You could just push a big cart with cake on it right by him. Oh, yeah. You'd have no idea. Anyways, I have no freaking clue what this is, but they did a promotional thing for it

where in Santa Monica, they rolled back everything to the prices that it would have been in 1959, including 30 cents per gallon gas. And hot dogs. And hot dogs. And 51 cent movie tickets. Hotel rooms, movie tickets, milkshakes, and more were all reset back to 1959.

That's awesome. This caused a massive traffic disruption as tons of eager customers were like, give me someone to 30-cent gas. Yeah, and the police had to intervene and shut it down for a bit. But then they got it going again with more organization. Yeah, so Amazon intervened and was like, no, we want this marketing thing to go by, we want to pay for a huge chunk of everyone's gas. So they just limited the amount of people, the amount of cars that could be in line.

Gas is really interesting because there's no real like one per customer with gas. Someone could have went up with a pickup truck full of jerry cans and just been like, that one, that one, just all day. We're talking like an order of magnitude less money. That's awesome. Yeah. Gas does expire, but you're also very likely going to use it

before it does expire. And you could just resell it to your friends. Oh, yeah. Not like widely. It probably wouldn't go that well, but to your friends you could absolutely. Here's a jerry can for twice as much as I paid and half as much as what you would be paying.

Or you could always symbolically burn something down. You know, cleansing. Perfect. Yeah. Hey, Brandon. What's that movie you like that I hate? Oakjaw. Yeah, Oakjaw.

Oakjaw? I have never heard of it. I'm happy for you. Stay that way. Okay. Don't waste your time, that. I'm happy for you. Stay that way. Okay. Don't waste your time, dude. I need both of you to watch it with me. Okay, how about this?

Just so I can hear the commentary on it. I'm sure the chat's going crazier. They're crazy about it. If people super chat about it, whoever... This is too cringe. I was going to say, if there's two super chats about it, whoever super chatted the most, that's who's right. Wow.

Wow. And it settles it forever. What? It settles it forever. So if someone super chats a dollar and says that Brandon's right versus someone buck 50 and I'm right, then it's like, I see you just going on your phone in a second. Done.

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I don't actually have much experience with comic books themselves. I will also say both of these boxes were surprisingly rigid. It is just cardboard, but it's relatively decent cardboard, and there's an inside sheath thing. I don't really know how to, so there's the outside cardboard,

and then there's inside sheath, and then. What do you have to type in to get this? M&Ms. M&Ms. Type in awesome superheroes? I wanna read that one. Oh no, that's the back. It's Spider-Woman. It's Spider-Woman. Okay. I want to read an M&M superhero comic now. And then inside the package, it's, it's wrapped in this plastic stuff, which probably sounds terrible through the mic. I'm sorry. And then, on top of that, well I guess,

around that, I guess guess they have little shields Superhero shield thingies that protect your comics again, so they're looking out for your stuff. How much is this? I don't know it doesn't actually say. This is oh it does every month You'll get something to read as well as something to collect I mean yeah use code Linus and get six6 off your first box. By using this discount code, you'll be entered to, you'll be entered for a chance to win a copy of New Mutants number 98, which is worth over $400. Sick.

Chief, chief. I don't think it actually said exactly how much it costs, but you can save money if you use offer code Linus. So do that. That's actually pretty cool. If you have like kids or you're like a teacher or something like that You could just read these and then just pass them out something that I really like about this kind of stuff is

If you have like little nephews and nieces and stuff. Yeah, you just always have that's what I'm saying presents. Here you go Yeah, this is a lot. Oh, hey, haven't seen you for a bit. Take five comics. Yeah. I'm the cool uncle. You're the coolest one. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaking of cool uncle, Savage Jerky! Savage! Dun-dun-dun-dun! Reaper is scary. I'm not surprised that one's not open yet. We have Reaper, Sriracha Bacon, and Habanero Buffalo Sauce. I have been told we're getting more soon, because part of the problem at Linus Media Group is everyone eats it all the time. So we, like, never have the jerky for the actual ass box.

We need a vending machine. Oh, my goodness. That, like, costs money for other people, but on the WAN show we have, like, a thing. A WAN show token. A token with a string on it or something. Yeah. Yeah. That would be awesome.

What makes a great jerky? You may think it's flavor, but that's the half of it. Savage jerky is handcrafted in small batches and used the best ingredients to create the highest, it just says highest product possible, but I think they mean highest quality product possible. Look how high this is. It's out of France. It's extremely elevated. Without the need for nitrates or preservatives,

their goal is to make a fantastic snack that tastes great. And they have 13 different flavors from their sweet teriyaki to the intense, spicy Carolina Reaper. They also make hot sauces, which they have here and are amazing. And are actually, I like the jerky, but the hot sauces are my favorite part. A hundred percent. They're very good. They also have spice rub as well, which I haven't I have tried and was good. That was just a really long time ago

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earlier was that it's great and it's not bad for you, considering the preservatives and nitrates not in there kind of deal. Good stuff. Tastes good. Good for you. Their sauces are fucking amazing. I would really like to smell this. Can I open this? I have smuggled out.

Sorry? Can I open it? Maybe. I don't know. Later. Jono's writing on the dock. Can we open one of these? Jono, I want to smell it.

I see you type in there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, I hear footprints. He's running. I hear them. Boom, boom, boom, footprints. He's running. I hear them. Boom, boom, boom, boom. He's running down the stairs. Now he's down the stairs.

I was gonna go to the next section, but we're gonna wait. This is like Godzilla when you see the water, like, shaking and the cl- There he is! He's here. There he is! He's approaching us. Lower third! Lower th-

OHHHHH NOOOO! There it is. There it is. Okay, well we're still doing the thing. Can I open this and then smell it? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Can I put my tongue in there and, like, lick the- Oh. You can keep the bottle. I can keep the- OHHHHH! You were just granted a bottle. Doing the thing I open this and then smell it Can I put my tongue in there and like lick the oh?

I can keep oh you were just granted a bottle these are really good. Which one is that? I'm not telling you It's mine. Well is it a reaper cuz you're gonna. It's a reaper. It's a reaper hot sauce We don't mess around in my place all there's more open. Oh that comes off easy Okay, this is the one I've tried. This one's really good. And the spice rub. Spice rub. Okay, so they've got like a just savage jerky spice rub, which is probably really solid. I've also got the herb blend, which I believe is more in the mojo side of things.

Give us a sniff. Sniff too hard. Sniff harder than you would. You get goosebumps? A little bit. It's than you would. You get goosebumps? A little bit. It's like... You get a little bit of the spice response. I can feel it in my throat.

Wow. Pavlov the dog over here. On the other hand, this one probably smells delicious. This is Carolina... Carolina. Sorry, John. Carolina habanero pineapple. Oh, that's got like a mustard smell to it.

Definitely does. Oh, but then... Like spicy mustard. But there's like this deep within there, I'm getting triggered, like nostalgia of when I was a kid and I used to like get McNuggets and like, and dip them. Some of this smells like the dip they had in McDonald's in the 90s

It's deep it's That's in like my okay, you know, okay. Yeah, I think I That's a weird Recollection, but I think I see where you're coming from in a good way to be clear completely. Yeah completely That's that's interesting. I want to steal that all right. I'm going camping Pia all right private internet access private access is a variety VPN sorry supports a variety of VPN protocols and types of encryption and Sorry. Supports a variety of VPN protocols and types of encryption

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that you really want to be going through a VPN, you don't want the VPN to drop and keep transmitting because then that data will be seen. What is bare metal server? What does that mean? That just basically means they're not necessarily, they don't just have a bunch of virtual servers all over the place. They have a whole box for themselves.

They have over 3,000 whole boxes. I wouldn't be surprised if they were VPSed within there, but they have control of 3,000 whole boxes. IRL servers. That's like some meat. I got some meat going on there. Put that on your middle. Yeah, yeah.

Put that on your middle. Let, yeah. Move back to this scene. There we go. It's been too long. Anyways, jackets! Oh my god. People have seen these for a long time. They're stylish. They're available now, baby! They're fancy. The hood's huge. My brother would love that. I can be a Sith real quick. What up, dudes? They're stretchy. They're stretchy. They're stretchy, but also not stretchy.

They stretch and then they stretch until they're not. And then they don't, because they're, what do you call it, a swatchit? They call it a swackit, that's what it's called on the LTT store. Yeah, so that's because this color of gray, the more notable gray material, is like tough jacket material.

And then the black material is sweater. You can see the pockets are like really stretchy. The arms stretch like for half an inch and then they're really rigid. Because this little bit will stretch forward. So you have a little bit of stretch in there, which is kind of nice. We also noticed last time we were on WAN,

which I could, I mean, I'll just do it, whatever. He's gonna do it, guys. He's doing it live. I am. Hold on. One second. Use your motor skills. I'm trying. I'm struggling. Okay, that was not the jacket's fault. I kept repeatedly having my shirt be in the jacket, which wasn't great. Okay, hold on. I'm gonna use a different LTT product. Mike definitely got that. Oh, no.

I dripped all over myself. That went on my shorts, which isn't going to come off. You're doing a great job. But it's on the sweater part, and it still comes right off. Oh, you did that on purpose? Yeah. Oh, I thought you were... I thought this guy can't zip, he can't drink.

Like, holy cow. Yeah, no, the sweater part is, like like water wicking to a certain degree as well. You can see that's already dried off, which is awesome. This part of it? Yeah. Okay. And this is the stretchy sweater part. Yeah, yeah.

So like it's, this part isn't as jacket-y as this part. That's the sweater part. But it's still, yeah. That's the jacket part. It's still water wicking. Oh, but nonetheless, it has jacket qualities. It still works kind of like a jacket. It's not going to be as good.

If you're in, like, torrential rain, it will probably soak it. Sure. But, like, a little bit of water, you're still going to be okay, which is pretty sweet. You got this, though. Yeah. There you go. Perfect. There's also, like, there's a big inside pocket right here.

This is where the sizing and how to treat it and information is, by the way. Information. Big pockets on each side. What else do they give us? I don't know. Oh, there's the new hats? These are the TechLinked. Are these like officially what they're gonna be? TechLinked hats. I don't know.

But I've been wearing one. I think they're cool. These are super cool. They're not that in your face, you know? It's like, hey, what kind of hat is that? That classy, cool, snazzy hat that guy's got going on. Yeah, it looks all right. Here we go. I think this is all just stuff that's... There's also, so to keep talking about the jacket, these lines, this silver line, and I believe...

Those are high-vis. This orange line seems not quite. It's just very bright. I'm just gonna be wrong Yeah, there we go It's just doing it the phone light is it's doing nothing too bad to do it But yeah, this silver part is hive is which is actually nice if you can be walking around at night That's a good thing. It's very good thing There we go. I'm keeping this hat on now now. Perfect. I don't think I look great in

hats, but I think it looks good on you. Let me see it again. Nah. Yeah, see? Nah. I just gotta go with the no hat. That's okay, though. All the other LTT merch. I know, it's weird. My wife hates when I wear hats and hoodies. She thinks I look like I'm from Abbotsford. My girlfriend loves when I wear hats, but I hate it. Abbotsford is

far from Vancouver, but not as far as Chilliwack where Colton lives. They all wear hats. I was going to say it. I was like, it feels more like the people where I grew up. It's more that direction. Anyways, is that the show? No, we ought to talk about Huawei.

Huawei. The other one's kind of not that interesting. Huawei's folding phone gets delayed again. Oh, no. It's kind of interesting. Is it? Yeah, okay. Go into it. All right.

I want to hear. I want to know. Samsung has been developing this folding AMOLED display tech for like six years and spent billions on it. Or not billions. Not billions. But tens of millions. Hundreds of millions. They spent a lot of money on it,

and apparently, I didn't know this, I missed this story, but in November of 2018, they had their technology stolen. Did you hear that? No. Yeah, there was like, people got prosecuted and stuff. And so, I don't know how they pulled it off, but some people were able to steal like blueprints and other relevant documentation

such that they were able to sell it for $14 million. Oh. And I don't know if it's public knowledge of who bought it. They had some shell company stuff going on. Maybe Huawei bought it. I don't know. But so that is why Samsung rushed to market with a product, their folding phone, that they didn't, obviously they didn't test it enough because all the YouTubers and stuff who got early access to it, there were so many problems they had to recall it. So they rushed and the question is why?

And it's because they didn't have the head start that they would have had they not had the tech stolen. And so the funny part here is that Huawei, whether or not they stole it, I don't know. Huawei is just another company that still, that also can't bring this to market. Yeah. And so originally they said that their folding phone, the Mate X, I almost said Mate 10, thanks Apple. The Mate X was supposed to come out mid 2019, which would have been, I guess, July, June, July. It got pushed to September because of the tariffs, the Trump tariff stuff.

And then now they're saying it's getting pushed till November. And they're saying, we're really going to make that deadline because they want to hit the holiday season. But we'll see. Yeah. That was a lot more interesting than the notes, so thank you. Because I didn't care, but now there's this whole conspiracy behind it and stuff. Yeah.

I love it. Not even conspiracy. They caught them. It happened. That's real. It's beyond that. That's pretty cool, actually. I like when that kind of stuff gets interesting.

I just like, I don't know, it's a, what, like a $2,700 phone? $2,600. US? Yeah. I'm not buying it. Like, that's more than people are spending on high-end gaming PCs. Like, that's crazy. That's more than, I believe, any of my friends' first cars. Definitely more than mine.

Yeah. That's too much. How long do you think it'll take for them to be mainstream? I think it'll take a while. But that's the thing is like I'm not that interested in the early adopter tax on this. I paid early adopter tax on a bunch of like VR stuff that was terrible because I was super interested in it. And I feel like this is the same kind of situation, but I'm not super interested in it. So I don't care.

I'm sure some people are, but like whatever. It's just a phone. so I don't care. I'm sure some people are, but whatever, it's just a phone. If they had some crazy new insane technology for computers, and it was overpriced and junk, I'd probably still be into it,

because that's more in my realm. If Apple released AR glasses, that would be sweet. Dude, I'm in. Yeah. Let's do it. AR is amazing to me. I'm totally on that.

But it's just, yeah, it's different. This one, I'm hoping Dbrand sends us one, and then Linus hates it so it's just on the shelf and then I can use it for a week sweet yeah let's do a daily driver swap for one week okay do you think though that it'll push once it becomes normalized it'll push the prices of normal phones like the ones we're using down or do you think these phones will stay at a grand or $1,100 and then these things will be like two to three hundred dollars more at all times and it'll just be like now we're all just paying more for phones yep yeah yeah uh we'll see that's the thing about prices nothing's really

worth anything it's worth as much as you'll pay for it yeah and you start it's all relative and there's whatever your anchor point is that's where the price is. Yeah. And they have been getting some backlash because the generational improvement isn't really there. And the prices have been going up. So phone sales are going down. And I think they're starting to feel that. And they've done some price zoning and stuff around that.

So I wouldn't be surprised if something happens to prices. But I don't think we're going to see these phones go down in price because of the folding phones, is what I would say. No, no. They might go down in price due to other factors. Yeah, thank God we have China here to commoditize this whole category. But I don't think it'll be because of the folding phones. Another thing Huawei is in the news for is that they helped African government spy on

political employees. Sweet. The Wall Street Journal reports that Huawei Technologies intercepted communications from government opposition in Uganda and Zambia. Zambia? Zambia. Bunch of zombies live there.

Zambia? How do I not know how to say that? That's Zambia, bro. Zambia. I mean, maybe it's Zambia. I'm terrible. No, I think it's Zambia. Zambia.

Zame, zame, but different. I feel like I haven't read that name in years. I looked at that and was like, video game location? I'm terrible. I need to get on the geography train. I'm sure John is so upset with me right now. Yeah, Zambia is right next to Wakanda. Yeah, it's a fictional African state. See, I can pronounce that one.

They delivered them to police, encrypted messages were gathered, and political opponents were tracked using cellular data. Representatives of Uganda and Zambia deny their... Zambia. I'm going to go... I'm just going to own it at this point. Zambia. Deny the allegations. Huawei underwent an international investigation

and found their employees weren't involved. There's literally insert large eye roll. Indeed, the Wall Street Journal does not indicate that Huawei executives were aware of what was happening in Africa. But like, yeah, I don't know. Some underlings might have been paid off, but kind of doubt it. Considering, isn't there a huge amount of Chinese investment going on in Africa?

Oh, tons. Yeah. Tons on tons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're trying to like pseudo-own Africa as far as I know. I wasn't going to say it on air. Oh. All right.

Well, I'm not, to say it on air. Oh. All right. They give really large and very low interest loans, and it helps them when there's like a vote on Taiwan or something like that to have different political leaders vote their way because they kind of owe them one. Right. Yeah. Interesting. Smart move for them. Is there any other news?

I don't think so. I have a little bit of a bone to pick. Uh-oh. You do the keyboard stuff at Linus Media Group, right? Okay, yeah, maybe. Why haven't you guys jumped on the custom train yet? What do you mean? There's whole YouTubers and a bunch of really big Twitch streamers.

I know, wow, he plays Fortnite. His name's NotNinja. It's a different dude who plays Fortnite. He's been in... Shay... Shay... No? That guy.

He's been in MrBeast videos. Okay. MrBeast has done a few things for him. Okay. I don't remember the dude's name. Tfue. Oh, not what I was thinking. He's been in MrBeast videos. MrBeast has done a few things for him. I don't remember the dude's name. Tfue. Tfue has a custom keyboard. Scara has a custom keyboard.

A bunch of these streamers are getting custom made keyboards. Are you talking about a merch keyboard? An LTT keyboard? Custom body, custom PCB, custom plate, custom switches. I actually would like to do that. I've been fantasizing for a while about my ideal, like my wishlist keyboard. I actually did pitch this to Linus.

I thought of a series where we do our wishlist product. You know, we did do a video that was like, what would the perfect monitor be like? Or no, the perfect TV. Remember they did renders of like, it's a TV with a display port and this and that. And I was thinking, we should just do a whole series where we try to get these made.

And I get my wishlist keyboard and someone else gets their wishlist headphones or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I wanna find something. I think the easiest way to do this, give me one second. People are wondering where my wishlist keyboard is.

Oh, let me tell you. Okay, so this keyboard. Oh, wrong screen. This keyboard right here. Just blackboarded keyboard. Those are custom keycaps. That was like a, they were Topar switches with a cherry stem, and I got custom keycaps for it to make like an LTT theme out of it. It It was a really cool thing and it was like the LTT keyboard for a little while Okay, and we featured it in a bunch of videos and all this kind of stuff. I want v2. Oh, I don't want to do it

This is your call do it. Yeah, but like it on how much does it cost? Oh, they can be pretty expensive I saw like a kit. I was checking out Zillow. Is that how you pronounce those? There's is really popular in the keyboard enthusiast. I don't know how to pronounce anything apparently. Maybe don't look at me. In the keyboard enthusiast community right now, people are so amped on Zelio switches. It's kind of spelled like zealot, like Z-E-A-L.

And I was like, I need to get these for an upcoming video. Cause I think what we're going to do is a blind test of what switches people actually like. We're going to try to have the same backplate and key caps and everything. And the only variable that changes is the switch. And we're going to set up all of them. Roamer Gs. People are always crapping on Logitech Roamer Gs. We're going to have all the different cherries.

We're going to have Kale. They have new things coming out. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to see if they want. Those look sick, too. Maybe they'll be interested and we'll get those new Logitech key switches Gs. We're going to have all the different cherries. We're going to have Kale. They have new things coming out. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to see if they want... Those look sick, too. Maybe they'll be interested and we'll get those new Logitech key switches

that are just coming out. We'll have the Zelios in there and some other enthusiast ones. And we'll just have a bunch and people will... They won't know what they are and they'll just rank them. I think to do that...

I've seen a lot of keyboard blind tests and the last one, last time I did, which I think was like a year ago or more He brought me down randomly and it was like a terrible Keyboard, I think it's cooler master. Sorry guys, but still it was really bad

And it was like a fake mechanical switch or something and it was terrible Oh, yeah, and then they had like a real mechanical switch and like immediately. It's like okay, obviously But when they're kind of close and they're all really good switches I think just like set them free and let them take their time because sometimes it's hard. Yeah, it's exactly what I was thinking Yeah, I didn't want to have like because we did one the other day here. It was a cherry versus kale spoiler alert Nobody got it. No, not one person And but you know why right Not one person.

That's actually pretty cool. But you know why, right? Cherry's manufacturing processes went into public domain, and the caler just copied them. So they're like the same thing. That's good. Yeah. Well, I guess someone would argue that cherries are more durable.

They're going to last for more million clicks. But, yeah. I've never had a switch from either of them die on me. So, like, good job to both of you. I'm still using the same Cherry-based keyboard, and I type a lot, and I'm always on my freaking computer. That's why my back screwed up. Hooray.

But I have the same one from, like, 2009? All the switches are fine. Like, I don't know. Yeah. I want to customize. Anyway, I was going to say, I was on their website for Xelio, and they had, like, these kits that you get where you get the back plate, and you have to buy switches to put it in everything.

And it was still $600. I was like, what? What is this hobby? There's wildly expensive keyboards. Like, one of the guys I'm talking about, he's got a YouTube channel and a Twitch page. I'm trying to find his. I'm going to butcher his name, but I think it's Taeya Types. It's T-A-E. There's such nice stuff out there.

T-A-E-H-A Types. He made Scarra's keyboard and a few other big time streamers' keyboards. And I think he worked with, like, Random Frank P and a few other big youtubers working with keyboards with those guys And their stuff looks super cool. Yeah, we should have more Yeah Custom work what was it called me and Luke didn't see that video Yeah, we're making an all-metal one soon. Yeah, I think so.

I think one of the new people is doing that. How to do a custom keyboard. Did I just miss this? Can you build your own mechanical keyboard? Wow. Wow. Way to know our catalog. Wow.

Wow. It even got over 2 million views. Lol. Wow. Not all of us get to review every single video, Nick. Okay, how custom did they do it? Okay. Everybody go and watch that video right now.

I want 3 million views by Monday. Yeah. Oh, that looks pretty custom. It's custom AF, bro. Did they just buy a kit, though? Because the current dudes that are doing custom are, like, getting their own bodies made and, like, all this stuff. Yeah, they didn't do that. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah

Yeah, we knew this. Yeah, we knew that we're getting what we're talking customer. I want beyond No, exactly. That's why I'm bringing it up now. It's cuz like I'm talking beyond the like mass drop Yeah, it's super cool. And if you want to do a keyboard that way I want a whole new alphabet man letters You've never seen whole new punctuation and tarot bangs You know the interrobang yeah, okay, you know what that Well anyways, I think that's it do we miss anything Nick okay How do you they're nice I like the hybrid nature they They're like my shorts. Or there's the... yeah.

I feel empowered in it. Cool. Seriously, I feel like I'm a superhero. You definitely look like a superhero. Yeah, it goes along with the comic books thing that we've got going on. This'll be great in the fall. I'm really warm right now, but... Yeah, under studio lights it's a little warm, but that's sort of the point, I think. Oh yeah.

So like... It's supposed to be warm. A lot of people are picking them up, so... Oh, really? Yeah. We sell our stuff fast. We sell it fast. Yeah. We sell it fast.

And we didn't order that many of those. So, like... If you don't want to wait, like, six months, you get it out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they have to do restocking stuff, like, actually. So, like, if they run out of your size and stuff, they'll have to restock,

and that will probably take a while. Because everything that we make, is custom yeah like this was designed custom yeah in partnership with a garment manufacturer yeah like it's not like we're just like oh order this like random a1 model no like we we make it from ground up so it takes a while to restock these guys are like sending emails to Pakistan and stuff guys like I don't watch the news Okay, that's the end of the show Thanks for watching Intro oops didn't do there we go in a boat

I'm dead Intro oops didn't do there we go in a boat Who says it's a couch Savage Jerky! P-R-E! Why did we just both? It's so fun. That was amazing. Let's try it again. Come on, McGrath! We failed.

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