The WAN Show - More Xbox Series X Details - IT'S A PC! - WAN Show Mar 20, 2020

Episode Date: March 21, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that goal to beat your personal best?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Keep chasing it. Drive your ambition. Mitsubishi Motors. Very live. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the WAN show. I actually had the best day ever. You're lying. No, no, no, really. So for me, it's not about how my day was because my day was terrible. I heard a lot of swearing. Yeah, there was. Oh, yeah, I guess I was.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I heard, like, a loud swear. Like, I thought someone, like, got their toe smashed or something. No. So what happened there was I actually spilled water into the underside of the back plate of not one, but multiple GPUs that are all attached together with this big like manifold so the GPU stack of Titan Vs. Yeah when they're all attached that way they're not cheap GPUs. And they're not easy to get at and dry out.
Starting point is 00:01:18 That tower's like this big you just like rock it like drain. Yeah it was it was that was not a lot of fun but the reason that today was a great day got your stress ball stress ball going the reason today was a great day was that we came through in the end that's all that matters to me that video is done yeah but we were supposed to do another one that video is we were supposed to do two more but that video is done wait no we're supposed to do two more. But that video is done. Wait. No, we're supposed to get seven and we got six. Right, yeah, so we're good. And that video is done. And, and, and, it's for a good cause and I have more good news. So this
Starting point is 00:01:57 is a bit of a spoiler for the video. Sorry, I keep creeping closer to James. I'm trying to maintain our one to two meters here. Stay away. So this is a bit of a spoiler for the video, but it's like an ultimate folding at home machine. So we're using the six workstations, one CPU rig to run folding at home. And it's also kind of like a quick and easy guide for how you guys can get set up folding, preferably, of course, for the LTT folding team,
Starting point is 00:02:21 but it actually doesn't matter that much as long as you're folding. The folding project is contributing to the COVID-19 pandemic right now, so it's totally a good cause. Contributing to combating it. Yes, thank you. It's a Friday.
Starting point is 00:02:34 We got all weekend to set our machines up, so remember to do that. I have to admit, I haven't set mine up. It even has a setting in the app so that you can tell it, don't operate when I'm actually using my computer. Because, well, that used to be a problem where you would set it to a low priority, but it would still kind of derp when you're trying to play a game and stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So now it's just you can set it so that when your machine's idle, it'll run, and when it's not, it won't run. If I already have that Folding at Home app. Get the latest client. Oh, okay. Yeah, just make sure you get the latest client. But, yeah, so what's really cool, cool though is that in us trying to do this what we discovered is that the folding project has a big problem the problem is that it's basically 10xed since the covid19 thing took off
Starting point is 00:03:17 and they've got so many users that are trying to submit completed work units that their servers are choking on it. So what's awesome is that in doing this project, we found this problem because we were getting terrible numbers out of six Titan Vs and 56 CPU cores. And we were like, what's going on? And it turns out we weren't able to submit. So we actually contacted them and we are working with them to roll our own server. So what's the flow then? We're solving
Starting point is 00:03:45 little puzzles on our machine here and... Like we're solving protein folding simulations basically. And once they're done, you have to submit them to go to the server elsewhere to be verified or just put into an archive or something? Exactly. Where they can actually
Starting point is 00:04:01 analyze them and see if the data is useful. So basically they've run out of bandwidth and so we contacted them we were like hey so we want to do this video showing this but um we can't even show this ultimate folding rig because we can't submit enough work units is there a way for us to set up a folding recipient server here at our office and they were like, yes. So we are, so part two of this project, which should actually be easier than the one we just did because that machine has been sitting in mothballs for ages
Starting point is 00:04:33 and was kind of broken. But part two is we're actually going to be building a server utilizing our 10 gig connection here. So we'll partition off a big chunk of it. And then you need a bunch of storage. You need a big fat internet pipe. And we will actually be able to contribute on the other side of the equation then then no no there's another level sir we're pretty set up to do that that's pretty good yeah so we got in touch with our isp
Starting point is 00:04:54 to um put some security stuff in place to make it so that when we do that it's not going to open us up to um just any unnecessary vulnerabilities we, hey, just doing our due diligence. Let's make sure we're doing this right. And they go, oh, wow, that sounds like a really cool project. We'd love to get involved. I can't share too many details, but there could be a part three where we 10x it again. OK. And anyway, so I'm-
Starting point is 00:05:22 Would that be on this site or a different site? It would be off site here. We can't get a 100 gigabyte pipe in here. I mean, maybe we could, but we're not. Wow. That's crazy. So how many servers do they have now? I actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Like several? I have no idea, but my understanding is it's multiple servers and they're all just running like gigabit connections. Yeah. So we would be contributing hardware, and we'd obviously be trying to find partners to help us build up these servers. And then our ISP is working with some of their partners
Starting point is 00:05:57 to help us get bandwidth. And then I'm trying to work with a drive provider. I've reached out to Seagate. They might be interested to get the storage that we need. And then we basically try to have these rolled for the next, I mean, those guys are probably going to want their stuff back eventually. And, you know, once there's some big breakthroughs in COVID-19, we might not need all this computational power for that project, but we'd like to keep it rolled out for at least a little while.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Man, it'd be amazing if this community contributed significantly to a breakthrough like that. I mean, it has on other projects, so it's a really important thing. Like, if you're gonna use your idle cycles for something, better that than crypto mining, quite frankly. That's wicked. Oh, we should totally talk about
Starting point is 00:06:44 what we're gonna talk about on the show today. Oh, yeah, the LAN show. Yeah, the LAN show. Hey, got him. Direct X 12 Ultimate unveiled. Xbox Series X specs unveiled. Those two things, hand and glove. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:57 What else we got? GameStop apparently thinks they're an essential service and shouldn't have to close. Lordy. That's interesting. And, oh, also beware of folding at home, fishing and malware, not the real one. So you Google folding at home, you go to that website, the first hit and you download the client off there,
Starting point is 00:07:17 but there have been some scams going around. Just like this scam rolling our intro, boom. You're just like wired for Segway. I know right? You just just like wired for segway. I know right? You just can't turn off segway. My battery never dies James. Rafiqsa says, Linus you were on a Pulseway ad. I actually do know that because I was on set for two days.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh yeah, you were there when they filmed you there. Yeah, I was there believe it or not. True, yeah, you were there when they filmed you there. Yeah, I was there, believe it or not. That must be going really well for them. They seem to have put a lot of spend behind that spot. Sweet. All right, so let's, you know what? I think one of the first things I'd like to address, I wasn't on the show last week.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Where the heck was I last week? What was I doing? Where were you last week? Well, Luke is self-isolating. Yes, because he thought he might have been exposed. Well, he's a couple degrees of separation away from somebody who was confirmed, I think. Okay, got it. So he's playing it safe.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Where the heck were you? I don't know. Okay, it doesn't matter. Anyway, I wasn't on last week, so I want to take this opportunity to talk about... You went home early. Oh, that's right. Yep, I remember where I was.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So I had a bit of a situation with my cat who got... It was an accident, but I still consider it to be a fairly negligent thing to do. The law calls that manslaughter. Yeah, when it's a man. So we call it cat slaughter. But my cat was killed by my children's caretaker last Friday. She accidentally ran him through the clothes dryer. So if you follow me on Twitter, you'll already know about that.
Starting point is 00:08:59 We did our best. Yvonne left work immediately after we found out, took him to the vet. They had him in the oxygen chamber and everything. Like, we were just like, look, he's a young cat. Quite honestly, like, just do whatever you need to do. Our vet's really good. Like, they wouldn't send us a, you know, $15,000 bill. They're not idiots.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But, in fact, our vet is amazing. I'm not going to call out her name because I don't know if she would want me to she's kind of more of a private Person, but I will say massive shout out to Fraser Heights Animal Hospital Those guys are awesome the the guy that runs it is actually a long long time family friend and his staff is amazing They're all amazing just great people there But it was a real test in professionalism because I was speaking to the editor. We happened to be filming a video while this was unfolding,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and Yvonne left and then was messaging Linus all these updates of this evolving situation. And obviously Linus was really affected by it, but then we happened to go, okay, high energy level, make a video that people are going to watch. And I spoke to the editor of that video, and he was like, it was traumatizing to watch Linus keep getting these updates.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And then you eventually left. That's why you weren't on the show. So we decided to go just because it's sort of our son's cat, and we basically decided that whether he lived or died at this point so he was like a cat yeah whether the cat lived or died he was like in an oxygen chamber his breathing was elevated his kidneys and liver were both damaged according to the blood work that they did brain swelling as well yeah we needed to be there to let our son know because he was like his cat um he sleeps in his bed every night and like he's the first thing so we were at Disneyland a little while ago and the first
Starting point is 00:10:53 thing that my son said when we were on our way back from the airport was I want to see Shadow and I was like you know great I mean, at that time, that was possible. So anyway, that's what I was dealing with last Friday, so that's why I wasn't on WAN Show. We actually got the call when we were driving home, and we managed to, we were only a few minutes after my son arrived home, so he didn't have time to kind of ask too many questions, and we just kind of took them all upstairs and explained what happened.
Starting point is 00:11:24 So you got the call that the cat had passed? Yeah. Okay. So by the time you had to explain to your kids, it's not like you told them one thing and then... No. I was driving up 184, and the vet actually texted Yvonne, so she was checking her texts in the passenger seat and said, hey, it looks like his breathing's normalizing a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:38 We've got him in the oxygen chamber. Oh, boy. And then she called 15 seconds after she texted. Oh. He's gone. Oh, boy. Yeah, so she said it seemed to happen really suddenly. He was hopped up on all kinds of meds.
Starting point is 00:11:53 She figures he probably didn't feel a thing, but... I mean, he suffered enough. Definitely had suffered enough by that point in time. So, yeah, anyway. We promised the whole show's not going to be that good. Yeah, yeah, I'm really sorry. I mean, I will say that it has, I don't know, I've just had a lot of perspective-changing experiences lately.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So the perspective change that I had here was, like, you know what? Accidents can happen to anyone, but, you know, I know myself well enough for a fact to know that if i was there taking care of my kids um you know my my furry kids would be fine too so uh yvonne and i have both actually resolved to at least unless we find a unicorn caretaker for the kids someone amazing we're both cutting back to 80 days days here in the office, and we're going to be doing one day a week each with the kids and getting more family help. So our kids are just going to be raised by family moving forward
Starting point is 00:12:52 if we're able to. Anyway, one of the other things that I haven't addressed on WAN Show because I wasn't here last week is a lot of people have asked, hey, are you guys open? So what is Linus Media Group doing in order to keep its staff safe? Because obviously that's a top priority for us, not only just for ourselves. Quite frankly, Linus Media Group is a super young company. I don't think we have anyone here over 40. Actually, our accountant, one accountant might be. Yeah, I think he's like 43.
Starting point is 00:13:20 But we don't have anyone really with any significant risk factors. But just because you don't personally have any risk factors doesn't mean that this isn't a big deal. Because you could easily transmit to someone who does. And it hasn't been demonstrated that being young is a huge risk factor. But being very young is obviously a big risk factor. We've got a couple people here on staff that do have very young kids now. I don't know if they've talked about it publicly, so I'm not gonna... I have a baby, she's like nine months. Okay, there you go.
Starting point is 00:13:49 There's one. There's one. So I don't know how private people are about these things, so I try not to be the one to kind of break that sort of news. But, so what are we doing? Obviously mandatory hand sanitization, hand washing after any time you're basically interacting with anything else that someone else is interacting with and when you first get to the building we're trying to be really militant about people heading straight to the sink yeah like let's say you're walking in carrying your lunch you don't put your lunch in the fridge and then go wash your hands no drop your lunch don't touch that fridge handle I've been on people on
Starting point is 00:14:21 people yep so we're doing that anyone who can work from home. We've had them working from home We've had probably about half of our staff in here Which is kind of nice to be honest because it makes the whole social distancing thing a lot easier Anyone with symptoms they are being immediately sent home any kinds of symptoms. So we're not just limiting it to kovat things like fever like my understanding is that... Someone who works here. Is it sneezing or... Oh, I thought you were going to say, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:14:51 No, no, there's some respiratory illness symptoms that are not necessarily COVID related, but just anything that looks like respiratory illness, we're having people get out of here and go into quarantine immediately. Typically, I've been of the position that the salaries that we pay are good enough that if people need to take the occasional sick day, they can just take a sick day
Starting point is 00:15:11 and they'll eat that. But what we've done as an exception during this exceptional time is we've implemented a sick pay policy. So people, we basically put aside kind of a fund that if it runs out we will re-evaluate but for now we've put a bucket of money and basically told people like look don't abuse this this is for people to make sure that if they're exposed to something or they think they're exposed to something or they have any symptoms whatsoever that they're able to self quarantine um for two weeks so we're making sure that people are not going to be falling behind on their rent or anything. I was reading a really horrible article earlier this week
Starting point is 00:15:51 about someone who basically got laid off because their restaurant shut down and they told their landlord and their landlord was like, well, then you better get another job. Like, what job? The economy is shutting down. like what job the economy is shutting down so for us the main thing our our mandate internally is we're going to be following all of the guidance that comes from the bc provincial government so right now we are in compliance with everything that they're rolling out and if they roll out a lockdown or they say non-essential businesses need to
Starting point is 00:16:25 close then we will cross that bridge when we get to it it might end up being you know riley wipes down a camera uh takes it home and writes and shoots tech linked at home it maybe sends the files to one of our editors then they still make videos we're gonna make videos i don't think it'll be at the volume that we're doing now because like the cold hard truth for me is that this is a huge deal but also life needs to go on and like come on we're a tech company there's no excuse for us to not be able to use technology to do our jobs like there's certain professions there's certain industries that are not going to be able to work around this but but we should have that power. So we're going to do our best to make sure that everyone is staying at work.
Starting point is 00:17:11 You actually really did surprise me on Monday. Every Monday we have a Monday morning meeting. That's an all hands meeting. Everyone in the company is in one big room. And even though only half the amount of people were here on Monday, we had everyone who's in the building had the meeting virtually. Everyone was at their own desk, like teaming in to this big video chat. I kind of thought it was like,
Starting point is 00:17:33 is it really that big of a deal? But it's true. If we were all in that room, we would have to be at least within three feet of each other. And that was just a little thing that was cumbersome, but it reduced our risk factors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 And we do have a couple of people who think that they might have been exposed at some point so those people are currently taking advantage of the no not taking advantage of they're currently utilizing the sick pay policy that we've put in place to to deal with this problem. I just I wanted to make sure that people don't have any incentive to be here if they shouldn't be here. That's that's the thing with it's not like in normal circumstances if you had a bit of a sore throat or a little annoying or a little tummy ache or something you probably just come in but in this case we don't want that yeah you shouldn't
Starting point is 00:18:16 yeah you know what i reason to you know what i really hope i hope that the one good thing that comes out of all of this is that we all take a moment. Did you see those pictures from Venice, Italy of the water running clear? Yeah. And apparently there's like dolphins getting closer and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:18:37 There's few things that bother me more than an in-person briefing or an in-person presentation for some new product or something when it could have just as easily been done as a WebEx presentation. It really will be interesting to see how many companies realize, wow, actually working from home made us more productive and it's just cheaper for us
Starting point is 00:18:56 and half our companies should be doing this at all times. And I haven't shaken hands with anyone at a public event except when I have a very dirt moment because I'm exhausted or whatever in years strongly recommend it i haven't gotten sick in years i hope handshaking goes i wonder to what extent this will change our culture permanently from here on out that's what i was just i was just thinking about that the other day like all the teleconferencing that people are doing the way that all these companies are switching to just doing their product announcements online. Like the problem that I see, like the thing that I see that could ruin it is that if they do all this stuff online and they all have a terrible year,
Starting point is 00:19:37 because it's going to be a terrible year. They won't be able to parse those apart. The people who are going to be hurt the most are the people that are in your blue-collar labor jobs or service industry jobs where nobody's going out, right? You can't bring people together to manufacture something. You can't have people sitting together enjoying meals together. So how are those people going to have jobs? Those guys are going to be hurt really, really badly, and they're not going to be able to buy stuff. So what I worry is that companies are going to see, oh, our sales sucked when we did all these product launches online and correlate something that may not be correlated. Maybe when the economy recovers next year or the year after, who knows how long we're going to be in this for.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Maybe if they stayed the course with this, we could actually just reduce our dependence on air travel. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, well, environmentally, that's a huge, huge suck. It's going to be rough for anyone who's hoping to buy American Airlines in the dip, but yeah, we'll see how that goes for you. Maybe we should get on to one of our tech topics. Yeah. Sorry, I guess I feel like I got a little bit off topic, but people don't seem to mind for the most part. Mario Madness. Yeah, I used to get sick at CES every year. I stopped shaking hands.
Starting point is 00:20:53 That was it. And I would carry around hand sanitizer, and any time I, like, derped, and I was like, oh, shoot, I forgot I don't shake hands anymore. Hand sanitized. Stopped getting sick, period. Also, not touching my face. So are we all going to grow our hair out for the summer or what?
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'm going to get my wife to cut it. We won't even notice the difference, probably. I was just thinking. Funnier than you. All right. I was just thinking about that the other day. How do I go get a haircut while maintaining my social distancing bubble? I've got a huge unibrow now.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Surprise, guys. I get my eyebrows did. It's not going to be possible. How are you? Sorry. Yeah, sure. You might really want to get into tech. We will talk about the Xbox.
Starting point is 00:21:37 How are you staying fit? Beat Saber. Okay. So I wasn't able to play Badminton on Monday. I had actually already skipped last week for some reason or another. So I haven't been playing badminton, which is my primary form of exercise. Do you plan to continue, even though you're social distancing? Badminton?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah, it's pretty... Well, badminton's pretty social distancy. I had planned to continue to play, but just maintain a big bubble, sanitize my hands in between matches, because you do touch the shuttle, and everyone touches the shuttle, and then no high fives at the end of the game. So that was kind of my plan. Maybe switch to playing singles instead of playing doubles,
Starting point is 00:22:13 so I don't have to be close to anyone. But the place that I play at, that my friend runs, they shut down for two weeks at least, so I don't really even have anywhere to play. Backyard? Backyard Badminton. What do I look like, a white person to you? Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Backyard Badminton. It's not even the same game. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so I got two plans. One is I'm going to be playing Beat Saber every other day for at least half an hour. It is, have you played? I'm sure it's a cardio workout.
Starting point is 00:22:46 It is phenomenal exercise. I've played DDR, like fast. Okay. It's cardio. Yeah, it's a phenomenal workout. And then what I'm gonna do is I'm going to put some badminton lines in my garage, just with tape, like on the concrete slab there.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And then there's footwork drills that you can do that are really brutal. Have you seen the size of a badminton court, right? Yeah. So there's a really great drill where you just take a couple shuttles and you put them in one of the very far corners. And then what you do is as fast as you can, you lunge around the court, picking them up all the way off the ground,
Starting point is 00:23:17 and then back to center, and then pick a corner, and then you go and put it down in that corner. Like put it down gently. Because what it really trains you to do is do controlled lunges and then push off strong back off of it. And so you do what is effectively 12 sets. So you grab one and take it, grab the other, take it, grab that, put it somewhere else, grab that, put it somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And then you go back to start. Do you typically do drills like that? When you're training? Yes you though but when i'm just playing no no i don't really maybe you'll come back a better player like lance armstrong after cancer and drugs i would love to i would love to it should be it should be doable because that is one of my biggest issues is that i don't work out i just play really hard um and I don't play enough for that to really maintain me. Yeah. I mean, I'm doing all right, but like. I'm screwed, all my things are high contact.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Oh yeah, jujitsu is like. Jujitsu is like, I went a couple weeks ago, yeah, it's like someone's face on your face. Right. I went kind of when this was popping off and people were starting to wonder what they should cut out of their lives. And I go there and like within the first few minutes
Starting point is 00:24:25 i got someone spit on me like the guy's kind of lispy and like some spit like landing here i was like this is done this is over then if you lift weights that's that's over yoga group class that's over like i can't do anything i might go for a jog and i hate jogging i hate jogging so much i'll go for sprints sprinting's fun i have bad knees so jogging is like. I'll go for sprints. Sprinting's fun. I have bad knees. So jogging is like the worst. Basically the worst thing you can do to your knees is jog around in the city. Like on the pavement. Yeah, yeah. I would do pavement. Yeah. So actually,
Starting point is 00:24:54 okay, here's another personal update. I swear to you we will talk tech at some point. So I don't know if I told you but I did end up going and seeing the orthopedic surgeon about my knee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it turns out that I have a meniscus tear and it looks like it is probably not going to heal. So there's like the red tissue and then the white tissue that doesn't have as much blood flow. And if the tear goes into
Starting point is 00:25:18 the white tissue, then... Is the red tissue also meniscus or only white? It is meniscus, but it's like more likely to heal. It's at the outside. Because of blood. Yeah, because there's blood flow there. And basically what he thinks, the MRI was not conclusive, but what he thinks is that there's a tear there that might be kind of like a hangnail.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So if he just went in and, like, kind of clipped it off, it would stop kind of moving around and bothering me. And then maybe he can put back together the part that's torn and that would that would totally fix it with just two little holes and i'd be off my feet i'd be on crutches for six weeks but that's a long time that's a long time to be on crutches especially in my job like i move i actually move around a lot at work upstairs and downstairs carrying products around like i i i some people sort of talk about like oh how's how's linus looks so fit i only i play badminton once a week for two hours and i move around a lot at work this is like a 10 000 square foot warehouse and more than probably anyone else i am upstairs
Starting point is 00:26:21 grabbing something downstairs checking in with someone uh grabbing a bunch of products from the warehouse over there, taking that back up to my office, opening them all up, putting them down, picking them up. And you're the type of person who often chooses to run up the stairs. Oh, yeah, I do things fast. I always do things fast. I always walk fast, take two stairs at a time, all that kind of little stuff. It makes such a difference.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I remember one of the most life-changing moments for me was in my sports psychology class, like sports psychology 100 in university and The the professor basically said you know how to have a six-pack Just flex your stomach all the time just when you're walking around just Just flex your stomach all the time. I Haven't done a sit-up in three years, at least. But it's just like, that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Just everything you do, do it hard. And I was like, oh, and I'm not in great shape. I could have better cardio, and particularly my legs. Like, I think if I do those footwork drills, I will come back, like, way better. But just little things make such a big difference. That's why they say that Okinawans in Japan live the longest.
Starting point is 00:27:28 One of their contributing factors is that they don't sit at tables and chairs like this to eat. They dine on the ground. They sit on the floor,
Starting point is 00:27:35 right? And when you're just standing, going from, imagine my grandma. In the West, so many of our elderly people are overweight.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Like, getting cross-legged and then standing up would be like a trial. Probably have to lean out and grab something. if you did that a hundred times in a day oh your longevity just yeah that's a good point okay okay we will talk tech i swear wait wait i'm just joking just joking uh stephenois, weird flex but okay. I was actually impressed by that.
Starting point is 00:28:09 That's what I look like. I'm not, like I don't have a lot of punch because you do a lot of cardio and just hold yourself. Do you think you eat well? No. You go to like A&W, how many times a week do you go to A&W? Or fast food like that? Okay, guys to be clear, Canadian A&W is not the same as American A&W. I would not eat that garbage.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But Canadian A&W is actually a lot better. It's still fast food, to be very clear. It's burgers and fries. It's burgers and fries, though. Or onion rings. There's some veggies in there. Oh, yeah. I like the onion rings.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So my biggest thing over the last year is I've cut out sugary drinks, including fruit juice. I basically don't touch it anymore. That is such a huge thing. I feel like that's easy. It is not that easy. I think it's easier. For me, if I have to choose, do I want to eat a whole bag of chips and slam an ice cream or have pop? I'm going to cut out pop.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's going to be way easier for me. I love orange juice. Really? I love Tropicana whole bag of chips and slam an ice cream or have pop, I'm going to cut out pop. That's going to be way easier for me. I love orange juice. Really? I love Tropicana, lots of pulp, orange juice. Oh, man. It's good, but like. I love it so much. Once you cut something like that, you find that you look at it and you're like, that's
Starting point is 00:29:16 disgusting. I don't need that anymore. No, I still love orange juice. You still see it in one? And I love that. I love that Nestea, man. Oh, your childhood. I can put back like.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You probably had so much. I can put back a two liter of Nestea, man. Oh, your childhood. I can put back like... You probably had so much. I can put back a two liter of Nestea in like a single meal. Like I'll make bathroom trips, but like, oh, I love that stuff so much. That's so much sugar. Ice cold, man. Ice cold. Love it. So no, I wouldn't say that I eat particularly well, but I also try not to just like go out
Starting point is 00:29:43 of my way to eat garbage. So I mostly don't eat cookies and ice cream and some of my favorite things like I used to. But the big one is probably just cutting out sugary drinks. Don't read any chats. That's why we keep not talking about tech. Yeah, no, no, no. I swear to you guys, I'm going to do this.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Okay, here we go, here we go. Xbox Series X specs announced. This was posted by Vegetable Stew on the forum. So, the CPU is gonna be eight Zen 2 cores at 3.8 gigahertz, or 3.6 with SMT apparently. So SMT, formerly known as Intel Hyper-Threading, but now that AMD has it, we're going back to the generic non-Kleenex name.
Starting point is 00:30:22 We're going with the tissue paper name. The variable refresh rate compared to G-Sync. That's right, so it means two threads, or actually more, is it IBM that does four threads per core on some of their CPUs? I think so. But it means multiple threads per core so that the pipeline never gets empty.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And there is a power toll there, so that would explain why they might need to drop the frequency down a little bit, depending on what the console is doing. Yeah, that's right. 7 nanometers. So basically this is like a Ryzen 9, whatever, the Ryzen 7 something or other. I can't remember which one.
Starting point is 00:30:57 The 8-core, like 3 high gigahertz one is. The GPU is going to be a 12 teraflop, 52 compute unit, 1.825 gigahertz custom RDNA2 graphics card. It's going to have 16 gigs of GDR6 memory. So it looks like we're seeing a return of shared memory between the GPU and the rest of the system. And by the way, that memory spec is the same as the PS5, but those previous specs, CPU and GPU, are actually a little lower than the PS5. The PS5 is clocked lower than that, and it has two fewer teraflops than that on the GPU side. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Interesting. Gonna suck! Interesting. Storage is gonna be one terabyte of custom NVMe SSD. Why are they doing a custom SSD? Just use M.2. Why? Yeah, especially considering my first thought was maybe it's just the design of the thing
Starting point is 00:31:50 so that it fits in this really tight chassis that they're making. But M.2 is tiny. It's tiny. There's no way. You're already just a computer. Okay, other than the shared graphics memory for the CPU. So we get a 4K UHD Blu-ray drive, 120 FPS support.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I'm interested in the 4K Blu-ray drive. Why? Because I want... Don't you have Plex? Get good. I don't have Gigabit. Get good. You don't have Gigabit?
Starting point is 00:32:19 I just got Fiber. You don't have Gigabit networking in your house? Oh, no, you don't need... My building just got Fiber, so I have, I think think 150 up and down oh okay no no no no so you can run your plex thing in a closet though but i don't have a plex server i have an account my friend has one and i like i'm on there okay well okay so wait hold on be careful what you say here because you're about this close to jane's getting upgraded for a video. Okay, so my point is that the better way,
Starting point is 00:32:48 if you're going to like watch a blue, because it really is the best way to watch a movie, especially if you have a nice TV, which I believe you upgraded your TV. I have an OLED. Yeah, you have a nice TV. And by the way, I bought my OLED from a liquidation auction sale
Starting point is 00:33:02 from like something gets returned to Best Buy. I remember that. Yeah, I remember it had a little scratch about this big. On the front. Yeah. And I remember I looked at the photos before I bought on the auction. I was like, oh, that scratch. It was kind of an extreme close up photo.
Starting point is 00:33:16 So I had no scale for the scratch. I didn't know if it was this long or this long. I didn't know where. If it was in the top corner, in the middle. I didn't know at all. I show up there and it's like right there in the middle i didn't know at all i show up there yeah and it's like right there in the middle like on this screen it would be like here and it's like about a centimeter long and i was like uh and then they gave me the option really you don't have to take it you want to you can leave it take it or leave it and i took it and then like when i got home i
Starting point is 00:33:41 was like why did i take this and you'll remember I came into your office because I was doing a bunch of research on how to fill in scratches like that. There's a bunch of techniques on the internet. You wanted to make a video out of it, but then I think you wanted me to sacrifice a different TV so that we could find out the right method so that you could do it on yours.
Starting point is 00:33:58 No, no, no, I want, no, no, no, no, no. You said, we'll do it on your TV, but if it breaks you're just screwed. And I said, no, we'll do it on your TV, but if it breaks, you're just screwed. Yeah, I think I did say that. No, we'll do it on my TV, and if it breaks, then you have to pay for it or replace it or something. I was like, I get nothing out of this. You get a video, and I get nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:15 You would have gotten free scratch removal kit or whatever. It would have been the video that I write. I would have had to have done all the research. Well, I would have paid you to write it. Anyway, it's a non-issue. I don't even remember that the scratch exists. video that I write I would have to have done all the research I would have paid you to write it anyway it's a non-issue I don't even remember that the scratch exists most of the time unless I'm watching it on a sunny day
Starting point is 00:34:31 because the light has to hit it so the blu-ray really is the best way to watch a movie but and a 4k blu-ray player is about 120-150 bucks which is a great value except that you can just so I will confess to you i don't
Starting point is 00:34:48 bother ripping blu-rays anymore but much of my plex library not all of it some not all of it's possible um not all of it's released yet some things i admit i've been lazy about and i'm a little bit behind but much of my plex library is physical media backed, but I don't bother ripping them anymore. But the ultimate is ripping real Blu-rays to a Plex server and then just using that to stream the media around your house or out of your house. So I have a good enough connection that from anywhere I can just watch a full quality Blu-ray copy. What bit rate is that?
Starting point is 00:35:19 So it goes up to as high as like 80 plus, depending on the movie. Yeah, so it's pretty heavy. But as long as your server is okay and as long as your connection is good enough, which yours is, as long as you've got a symmetric fiber connection. If I was invited to yours and I streamed that,
Starting point is 00:35:37 could I ever get that bit rate, considering my fiber connection of 150 up and down? Yeah, yeah. My in-laws are on it. So you're saying I need to get on that? No, I'm not saying that. I am comfortable, I'm comfortable sharing it with people that I could just as easily share a physical copy with.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You wouldn't lend me a, you wouldn't, I lent you a book and you've had it for like nine months. Okay, so here's, that's true, I haven't finished yet. So that, so here's the thing though. That's where I think you end up in this really, really slippery slope. And I know that slippery slope arguments are inherently flawed, but for me, the line is, as long as I have in good faith made every effort to have a physical backed up copy, I don't feel bad about what is effectively not permitted, copying this media and hosting it on my own server for my own consumption. But you're considering the distribution that you're doing to be within the confluence of what you would do with physical media. Yes. And so it's easy enough to say, okay, well, hey, we all work here together every day. Why don't we all just buy one 30th of every movie that comes out
Starting point is 00:36:48 because we could just share them with each other, create a work repository of Blu-rays. We've got a bunch of board games over there. That's our physically, we do, and people can borrow them. So our physically backed up digital library that we all share, and it's like, okay okay now we're getting pretty close to a torrent site which is effectively what that is now not always and actually yeah in basically every case any good quality torrent would be from someone who paid for the content
Starting point is 00:37:17 yeah a good quality one yeah yep i guess no even a bad one even a cam you still paid to be in the theater technically yeah so so that's well unless you work there so so i don't know so that's that's a slippery slope so my line right now is family i'm not offended you have many employees family that's another slippery slope someone else might be like oh i want to be on it luke's on it too so family and luke luke's my except he's he's on my google play music account too i put him on like literally years ago i know it was on wan show recently freaking guy you can you can watch that on the lmg clips um oh yeah we're actually talking about the specs of this okay right so it has a blu-ray player that's 4k which i agree is a big deal if you like are live in the stone age and you like rent blu-rays at the store or whatever you know what though there's a blu-ray there's a video
Starting point is 00:38:11 store by my place that i would love to support but they don't have 4k blu-rays and they probably don't have them because no one has a 4k blu-ray player because they cost more and i'm wondering if when this is really saturated and everyone has a PS5 or Xbox Series X and they all have these players, maybe that store will start stocking more. Yeah, because the 1S has it, but the 1S as, I would be interested to see the true numbers, but I suspect the 1S is a relative, like the newer versions of the Xbox. Like the 1X, S and X. S and X I believe also has it. No, X is the better one, so it would. I came out after the S. It was more to do with when they were released,
Starting point is 00:38:47 because the original Xbox is actually better than the S, if I recall correctly. Is it, or are they the same performance? I can't remember. Is the S just a smaller one? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The S has, I think, a better hard drive, and then the X was a stronger set.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You can play 4K. Yeah, okay, okay. So anyway, yeah, so I would suspect that because those didn't come until later in the life cycle, was a stronger set you can play 4k yeah okay okay so anyway yeah so i would suspect that because those didn't come until later in the life cycle a lot of the xboxes out there do not have these 4k uhd blu-ray players um so once we have a new console that gets you know a year or two into its life cycle yeah i think we could expect your local movie rental store if it still exists yeah to have uh to make it through this uh slump
Starting point is 00:39:26 right that's the type of business that might not make it through oh yeah for sure like streaming like if i'm netflix right now i'm laughing if i'm disney i'm laughing a lot less because disney plus i'm laughing but my theme parks i am oh boy i'm not laughing they did you see they man we are never going to get through these specs did you see they were talking about reopening Disney World? With like reimagined visitor experiences or something like that. Like they were working on it basically. I was like how are you gonna do that?
Starting point is 00:39:57 That doesn't make any sense. And I don't know, who would go? How did this hit the media? Like that seems like something someone's thinking about long term, but they would never have announced yet. Yeah, maybe. I'm not sure. Okay, let's just ignore that.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Let's pretend that never happened. So, potential for 8K resolution, although I would not expect to be gaming at 8K, unless we're talking, like, you know, back catalog, like Xbox 360 games or something like that. Raytracing technology, although we don't know exactly, you know, what form that's going to take. It certainly won't be using
Starting point is 00:40:29 any of NVIDIA's proprietary nonsense. And compatibility with Xbox One accessories. That, to me, is like the coolest thing out of all of that because everything else was basically expected. What other CPU were they going to use? ARM. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. else was basically expected what other cpu were they going to use arm yeah exactly exactly we're going back to this we're gonna we bought sony's cell processor unit and we made a new cell process get real you know remember the killzone shoe trailer yeah 120 fps wow what a big surprise that an HDMI 2.1 connection can run 120 FPS.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Saying 8K or 120 FPS doesn't mean anything because we don't know what actual details the game is running at. You could go get an Xbox 360 and if you had an HDMI 2.1 output, you could run a game at 8K 120 FPS. It might be Pong, but those are just- The smoothest moving balls. Right, the highest resolution pong of all time.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That ball, so round. It's like that ball is coming right at my face. Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything. To me, the fact that they are finally stopping this practice where we just get milked on rebuying the same plastic controller especially when it's the same controller especially when it's basically the same they perfected that controller i have four of them i don't want to buy four more exactly expensive exactly so whether whether whether they did it through an adapter or whether they just made it natively compatible
Starting point is 00:42:03 doesn't matter to me as long as there's some way to keep using them because that's one of the coolest things about the PC is that I can still use my Logitech dual action that I bought in high school because why not it's just a USB connection everyone's just using USB and so if you're gonna just use industry standards then just just use them it's just a driver it's just that's all it is just just load it on there so they're finally doing it cool to Microsoft pills love it huh I'm the last thing the bull I'm looking at your car even though I have this I'm calm I was at the last I'm completely calm well I have to talk
Starting point is 00:42:41 through the sponsors do you want to do the Vessi demo with me, or should I let Nick go first? Nick's here. Nick, what can I do for you? We have a store. Oh, that's right. LTT. Even in these trying times. What store is that?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah, we actually have a couple things in stock, even. We've got the water bottles back in stock, which is pretty sick. We've got their back. Black on black? Black and orange. Do we have black and orange? Black and orange, yes. Black and black, no, not right now. Okay. They're coming back soon. Black on black? Black and orange. Do we have black and orange? Black and orange, yes. Black and black, no, not right now.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Okay. They're coming back soon. What's happening? There we go. So yeah, we've got black and gold. This one is sick. This one's actually selling really well. We have black and white.
Starting point is 00:43:16 We're still giving away stickers with every order, right? Yep. This is the most creative way to arrange your stickers. And have we loaded up some of those just like old items? Or not yet? You said we were going to talk about that next week old items not or not yet we were going to talk about that next week oh okay apparently we're going to talk about that next week very limited quantities of the swack available again yeah so guys we did not do another run of it and we are not planning to do another i mean should we do another run of it probably not are we still engaged with that factory or did we find that they weren't very good well no it's it's all
Starting point is 00:43:43 good okay no we're not doing it but we. Okay. No, we're not doing another one. But we're not doing another one. Okay, we're not doing another run of the Swacket. You heard it from Nick. You know, if you want to complain about it, that's going to be at Nick underscore LMG, I think, on Twitter. Just Nick LMG. Yeah, just blow him up, all right? Blow him up.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Nick LMG. Yeah, no underscore. Yeah, no underscore. Promote me right if you're going to promote me at all. Yeah. Underwear is still in stock, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. 3XL, I think, no underscore. Promote me right if you're going to promote me at all. Underwear is still in stock, right? Yeah, yeah. 3XL, I think, is out.
Starting point is 00:44:09 3XL's out. All right. Sorry. Sorry, big boys. Go in commando. We'll get you covered. We'll get you covered again later. And for all of those of you who were just really hoping for this,
Starting point is 00:44:21 the cable ties are, in fact, still available. I know. I know. You can see there's so much demand, I can't even load this page quickly right now. We haven't even talked about how this is the first time you're seeing the new store on WAN Show. Oh, that's right. Did they not show it last week?
Starting point is 00:44:37 I think they did. Oh, yeah, yeah, the redesigned store. Well, no, I mean, I had obviously seen it before we launched it. Give me a tour. I actually haven't spent time on here. So it has the, like, carousel style. Wait a second. It's more than one page. Yeah, yeah, I mean I had obviously seen it before we launched it. Give me a tour. I actually haven't spent time on here. So it has the like carousel style. Wait a second. It's more than one page. Yeah, yeah, I know right. So it has this rotating thing up here.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I like the LTT logo and line work there. That's cool. Yep, so that's cool. And then it's got like our favorites, which is sort of like a combination of like top sellers or things that are limited time or you know whatever else or new um then there's clothing and gear and we're gonna hope to add a lot more stuff over the next little bit but as you guys know it's been an extremely challenging time i mean even just keeping something as basic as a black t-shirt in stock has not actually been that trivial so yeah especially last few months have been pretty brutal yeah we're trying to get a lot of restocks so massive massive shout out to the team they're they're working through it we've got all kinds of stuff going did i ever upload that story about the um the uh the little squishy
Starting point is 00:45:34 thing don't you have that in your hand right now no no that's that's something this is just because we're like oh man even starting early yeah i'm really excited about that one though all right all right anyway doesn't matter doesn't matter all right let's move on to our sponsors for the show today you were also on an episode of carpool critics we talked about contagion yes i you know what the shameless self-promotion if we're gonna do it let's do it boys so uh carpool critics is a sort of like what would we call that like an incubator project or like uh like a skunk works type of project. I don't know how it exists in your mind.
Starting point is 00:46:06 This is news to me. I don't know exactly. Basically, Riley, James, and David were really passionate and really excited to do just a movie podcast. And they were like, do you consider this to be a conflicting media? Because in our employment contracts here, we say, look, you can't utilize your Linus Media Group fame and influence to just go and be your own tech YouTuber on the side. That's not really how this works. So we work with people who want to create on their own, like Taryn, for example, where we say, OK, yeah, it can't be conflicting.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Or if you feel like it might be conflicting, have a meeting with me about it. Like I try to be accommodating. Write a first refusal, basically. Basically. So they brought it to me, write a first refusal. And I think it was a big surprise. I was like, he's not gonna want it, but all right, we'll have the meeting.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I was like, yeah, because the concept I thought was great. I didn't like the original name or like some of like kind of the direction you guys Sort of were pitching it at me from but what really excited me was I loved hearing these guys just talk about movies Really loud when they should be working out in the studio Because we would get into these Spirited discussions that sometimes would make their way over onto Twitter. They would overflow. Like, what's a better movie, Hercules or Mulan?
Starting point is 00:47:27 Don't get David started on Disney stuff. Don't get David started, especially on Hercules. He thinks that movie is so much better than it is. He is right. It is better than I thought it was. I rewatched it as an adult. It's actually not that bad. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:47:40 But it's not better than Mulan. And I'm not going to be on that episode. I don't want to. I don't want to i don't want to i don't think our relationship can take it but uh the origin story was that we carpooled together and then the carpool ended so we wanted to keep talking and making you pay for us to do that but that's why it's called carpool critics but one of the problems with that name is a lot of people are like why isn't this in a car yeah and i was like that was one of the reservations i had about
Starting point is 00:48:04 naming it carpool critics but uh the spirit of that was one of the reservations I had about naming it Carpool Critics. But the spirit of the origin is in the name, but we actually record it with good audio quality here in the studio. Yes. And it will get better. So when we finish the Renaults, we're going to redo. Actually, we're going to try to integrate the WAN show into the new podcast set. We're going to do Carpool Critics there.
Starting point is 00:48:20 We'll get some disc plates or something so that we can kind of make them look different. Nick and I had a meeting about this today, actually. So we might not always be sitting beside each other in WAN Show in the future. It might be just on you and then camera switches to someone else. That kind of change. I know, it's going to be rough. I've got to hold on here. I've got to hold on.
Starting point is 00:48:36 The earth's shifting. What do you guys think about the background? Because we were talking about different options for having different backgrounds. Because let's say you have one room where you're going to use multiple different shows and they each should have their own brand identity. You want a quick way to turn a room around so that when you're looking at Carpool Critics, you know you're looking at
Starting point is 00:48:52 Carpool Critics. One option is mountable posters that you can turn over. Maybe TVs that have different browning displayed. Maybe a curtain. TVs are tough to make look not tacky. I like curtains. And they reflect. They're hard to shoot. I also like rolling or sliding, like, solid backdrops.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Oh, we had an idea today that was novel. A shelf that has memorabilia on it, like a bunch of movie stuff on a shelf, and that stuff is glued to the shelf. And you just take the whole shelf. You take the whole shelf off and you bring in the next shelf with all the gaming stuff on it. I actually kind of like that. That's a pretty clever idea.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I like it. That's a pretty clever idea. I like it. That's going to be sweet though because we'll have a proper room with proper audio stuff and it'll be a closed off room so that we don't need to interrupt filming anywhere else in the building because that's a big problem we have right now. Right now the podcast is just in a random office up there but it's right beside Linus's office so if they're doing a vlog in Linus's office we can't do the. And then there's other sets down here where you just can't film in the kitchen while we're filming in the bedroom, for example.
Starting point is 00:49:49 The podcast gets very spirited sometimes. So anyway, we decided to do Contagion, which was a perfect fit because David wasn't able to make it because he's in self-isolation because he was advised that he may have come in contact with an airport worker, I think. So he came back from our trip to Toronto two days or three days after me,
Starting point is 00:50:10 like just a little bit after me. And that was basically the difference was it had spread that much more. He came back on a Thursday. He came back on a Sunday. Yeah, and he was advised that he should self-quarantine for two weeks. And so to, I don't know, I wouldn't say celebrate, Yeah, and he was advised that he should self quarantine for two weeks and so To I don't know. I wouldn't say celebrate but to Yeah to fill a void we needed him good Brandon's on vacation so yeah, you do them so we decided you can contagion
Starting point is 00:50:40 Hey, can you click on our YouTube channel? Yeah, she's sure. Can you show us show us the banner and everything sure yeah show us the thumbnails carpool critics i'm not pink you know you like that pink look at this sexy guy here and james yeah he's shooting me look at this sexy guy here and daniel radcliffe has a boat for whatever reason that was that was a weird choice doing this one i know brandon really wanted to do it though we i was happy to be that we did it, actually. And it actually performed pretty well. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I was afraid an indie movie would just... This is a super experimental thing for us, but if it takes off, hey, cool. It's just another way for us to kind of talk to you guys about something other than tech, because believe it or not, we do have lives. I've been tempted at times to integrate badminton into a video in some way i know uh like uh we actually had a sponsor that had this product that was like it was like a like an auto firing type of birdie
Starting point is 00:51:39 dispenser no no like a robot that has an arm on it that can rack it. We actually did do that video. I went to China for that video a couple years ago. Oh, yeah, okay. I watch her stuff. Yeah, anyway. So, no, it was this, like, all-in-one, easy-to-use, like, live production kit. And so it was kind of like the equivalent of, like, a Nest Cam, but with, like, an app. So it all went through your phone so you could do like live switching and stream it um and it was like all wireless or something and so i was like oh that
Starting point is 00:52:11 would be pretty cool so i could just go to like my badminton night and that could be the video is using this to effectively like broadcast a badminton match anyway they they ended up pulling out i think my suspicion is that the tech just didn't actually work well enough for what we wanted to do and so they didn't want to send them to us to try it every once in a while those kinds of things will happen they'll reach out and they'll go like yeah we've got all these great capabilities we'll be like yeah heck yeah let's use them and they'll be like oh we were actually really hoping you would just unbox it
Starting point is 00:52:40 and say it's good that's really a a fast moving sport. Maybe a pet camera implementation would be better. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, I should really get through our sponsors that actually sponsor us. So Vessi, oh we gotta do the demo. I didn't wear mine today. Oh, that's okay, we got this. I've been wondering about this demo.
Starting point is 00:53:02 What are we doing here? We're gonna put it on the table so that we actually, can they see? Oh, yes, I can just. We'll take that lower third off. Do that. Hey, got it. Vessi shoes are 100% waterproof using a knit material.
Starting point is 00:53:15 The Dymotex material regulates the temperature of your feet. On hot days, it'll keep you cool, and on cool days, it'll help keep your feet warm. They're flexible, they stretch, they're crazy light. Like they're super light. Like look, I could throw this at James. I have a pair of these and I like them. There'd be no danger whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And check this out, I'm gonna put it in water. That's right, I'm gonna leave this Vessi shoe in water while I do. Can I do this also? Yeah, sure. Because I've seen you do this on WAN Show and when you pull it out, I'm like, that looks like a wet shoe. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:53:42 So I'm gonna leave it in here while we do the rest of our sponsor spots. Vessyfootwear.com slash linus tech tips also sponsoring also sponsoring the show today oh you just oh you've overflowed it into my shoe how when you like it went over the edge when i took it out it made a wave uh yeah okay well my hand's still dry whatever man you know what's sweet i didn. Forget it. My arm's wet now. Whatever. It can sit there. Private internet access.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Or no, Displate. Dang it. Dang it. None of my lower thirds are working. Okay, Displate. Here we go. Over 35,000 artists from 85 countries around the world have contributed to Displate. They have over 800,000 unique designs.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That number keeps going up. Including ones of us. They plant trees. When you buy Displ disc plates they've already planted over 11 million trees They use a magnetic mounting system that decreases the risk of damaging your walls and allows you to switch between your display It's very easily you'll notice we often have very different ones back there. No we should do yes I should try to get like fan made ones like people should tweet up us their fan art like every week And we'll pick one, and then that week, that one will be the new display. That's something
Starting point is 00:54:47 Hacksmith does a way better job than we do of, of, like, compiling fan art. They have just, like, binders and stuff of just this amazing fan art that people have sent them, and we've had so many. Tons of fan art. Not as much fan art, but a lot of fan memes, which I consider to be an art form, by the way. We have
Starting point is 00:55:03 so many fan-made memes that are just outstanding. How is there not a display of the Linus face? Yeah, we... What a missed opportunity. We owe it to ourselves. Let's get that. Can it be the one with the gun? It can be all of them.
Starting point is 00:55:16 There are no tech tips. Take off your clothes. A little racy, but... Yeah, well, I don't like the rules. 100-day return policy for a 100% refund, which is kind of nuts. And you can pick between matte and gloss finishes, different sizes and frames for every artwork.
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Starting point is 00:56:50 But, like, obviously, eventually it'll leak. But it uses the same kind of concept as, like, the micro-Herozona bug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, where it causes the water to bead. I think that just means that on a micro level, the surface is rougher than the, like... What's that? There's a cool name for this rougher than the, like, what's that? There's a cool name for this. Like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Whatever. It's a like whatever. The tensile strength of a bubble. You know what? Like whatever. Let's talk about at least one more tech topic before we go. We should talk about DX12. Because it's pretty late.
Starting point is 00:57:19 How long have we been streaming for? Oh, wow. We've been going for an hour. We did a whole WAN show and talked about one tech topic. Darn it. DX12, posted by Vegetable Stew on the forum.
Starting point is 00:57:28 On their blog, Microsoft calls DX12 Ultimate the culmination of the best graphics technology we've ever introduced in an unprecedented alignment between PC and Xbox Series X. That's pretty interesting, actually.
Starting point is 00:57:42 It is pretty interesting. Now, to be clear, this is not a new API. It's more like a standard feature set. And that was one of the problems, actually. Starting with, I think, actually, I don't know if it really started. DirectX 9 even ran into this, now that I think about it, where you had 9b and 9c,
Starting point is 00:58:03 and there were all these kind of like optional parts of the spec that some developers would use or some graphics card makers would support and others wouldn't so basically this is like okay we're going back to basics this is direct x12 underscore 2 but we're going to call it direct x12 ultimate and And there's branding with it, too. So you'll be able to buy PC components that have this branding. And if you buy an Xbox Series X, that's crucial. That console is launching while this API exists. I believe 12 came out halfway through the lifecycle of Xbox One. So developers couldn't, they didn't know what features.
Starting point is 00:58:40 You can't go all in on DirectX 12 when you know that there's millions upon millions of devices out there that you're going to have to do a DirectX 11 code base for anyway. So these are the features that you know you're going to get if you have that branding. DirectX ray tracing, variable rate shading, mesh shaders, and sample feedback. Mesh shaders and sample feedback are way beyond me. I don't really understand what they do. Have you tried to look into those? I am especially not familiar with sampler feedback.
Starting point is 00:59:12 This is the kind of thing that we're probably going to have to do. Actually, we should send John a memo. We should do a tech quickie on this, get him to look into it. They're quite technical. Mesh shaders has to do with the geometry pipeline. But the upshot of almost, well, especially those last two, well actually all three
Starting point is 00:59:29 of those other than ray tracing, the upshot is that you'll be able to get more performance either by only rendering, like just rendering more efficiently. Like not rendering parts of the scene that you don't need or because it's more efficient you can render higher resolution of the things that you do want to see. Direct X12 Ultimate is intended to serve
Starting point is 00:59:48 as a common baseline for both PC game development and Xbox Series X development. Thank goodness. Like, let's just do away with bad console ports. Now we've got mouse and keyboard support on the Xbox, we've got Xbox controller support on the PC, there's just no excuse for, like, bad navigation
Starting point is 01:00:04 through menus and stuff like that, which makes it all the more unbelievable that I bought the Master Chief collection last week to play some Halo Combat Evolved multiplayer co-op with Luke on my night off, and it was a hot mess. What did they give you? A cursor that you move with your thumbstick?
Starting point is 01:00:19 No, it's not that bad, but it's just the way some of the menus are laid out just made no sense whatsoever Joining a multiplayer lobby was super unintuitive and it was really buggy no matter how many times I restarted the game Restarted my system rebound the action either to default or to something else that I had assigned There was no way for me to swap my weapon So I was stuck with the stupid assault rifle the entire time and i would i would i would look down at the weapon i want to pick up and it would say hold whatever i
Starting point is 01:00:50 had assigned to swap weapons and no amount of doing it would make it work fortunately we were just kind of dicking around anyway so we uh yeah well that's what you're relegated to yeah the secret cartographer level um we managed to get the warthog all the way down to the map room oh my god yeah yeah i have i have that brings me back i have screen capture it's amazing we're basically pulled up to it like a drive-through because i um i like hit it and then i mean old games right like just the way that they worked was kind of more cobbled together. So I activated it and then there must be some kind of a delay between activating it while the cut scene like switches to cut scene mode or whatever, but I was able to turn and get into the hog. So I'm like
Starting point is 01:01:36 hanging there in the driver's seat. In the cut scene. In the cut scene. This is an in-engine cut scene. In the warthog with the secret cartographer looking like a drive-thru window. That's awesome. Yeah. Did you ever play Elder Scrolls Morrowind? I didn't get into Morrowind. That one was jank. There was a bunch of really steep hills that you're not supposed to walk up or climb,
Starting point is 01:01:57 but if you just keep hitting jump while you do it, you can just like glitch your way up. Like edge your way up. And get into these stupid spots. Amazing. Someone out there has the same childhood as me. All right. Want to do super chats? Sorry, did I say secret cartographer or silent cartographer?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Sorry, sorry, sorry. I thought that sounded weird. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we should do some super chats. If you need to go, that's totally fine. I get it. I don't really. Do you think that GameStop, by the way, GameStop,
Starting point is 01:02:21 all these stores are closing. They've been ordered to close. GameStop is like, you know what? We're not closing. All of you chains, you stay open. And if the cops hassle you, show them this memo where we claim that we are an essential service because people are staying home and working remotely
Starting point is 01:02:35 and they need our software. They need games to play when they're remote and we're staying open. This is ridiculous. If you work there, it's like... We believe GameStop is classified as essential retail and therefore is able to remain open during this time, the retailer said
Starting point is 01:02:50 in a memo to staff. Are you for real? GameStop, you are the least essential thing. No offense. I think they're probably like we will go out of business. Which is a fair point. But like... Apparently this has been updated and the California stores are closed.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Okay, there you go. Oh, interesting. Apparently people lined up at EB Games today to buy Animal Crossing and Doom? In Toronto, yeah. Really? I think you had to have it pre-ordered though. Why are people like...
Starting point is 01:03:19 Oh man. Animal Crossing, bro. Yeah, you know who was saying they were going to play a bunch of Animal... Was it Riley that I was talking to the other day? I think so. He was making some Animal Crossing references today. Yeah, you know who was saying they were going to play a bunch of Animal Crossing? Was it Riley that I was talking to the other day? I think so. He was making some Animal Crossing references today. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Or it could have been... Did you play it? Wait a minute, Mark. I have never played an Animal Crossing game. It's one of those games where people explain it to you and you're like, I don't get it. This is stupid. And then you play it and you're like, I'm not putting this down for 80 hours this weekend. Huh, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I don't need another game like that. I played six hours of Anno last night. Oh I was up until like 3 30 in the morning get engineers oh I've got investors now yeah did you play Silent Moon I never did Animal Crossing is kind of close to silent moon okay well that doesn't do me any good does it cuz I never played either of them. Well, you know what? Farmville. Harvest moon. Did they say silent moon? Oh, I never played. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:08 What the heck is that? Well, it's silent cartographer, secret harvest. Oh, my God. We've got a hidden message here. Linus has a small dick. You know what? Fine. Let's go ahead and show this one.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Oh no, it's got a bunch of other junk in it, but you know what? I'm not gonna hide it. I'm not gonna hide it. It's got an Asian wife. Yeah, I don't want it. Do I need? It's all relative, baby. Robert Mayhell says, just closed on a house. What are some good IT slash life quality of life improvements for family and kids good wi-fi you know what i spend a thousand dollars on a wi-fi access point like four years ago or really whatever really i bought a ruckus r700 i spent my own money on it so many people were like this is so sponsored no one would ever do that actually lots of people do them they're for commercial deployments or lots of people do that it's for commercial deployments it was the best quality of life improvement that i have made
Starting point is 01:05:09 technologically ever and i would definitely say with confidence that going back especially now that the performance leaps per generation are not that big as someone who previously would upgrade every generation i would say i would skip a generational upgrade who previously would upgrade every generation, I would say I would skip a generational upgrade and I would upgrade my Wi-Fi instead. I would go back and I would do that 100%. Wow. Because the difference between crappy consumer Wi-Fi that drops out or has crappy coverage versus an enterprise Wi-Fi hotspot, especially at the time when I was doing a lot of game stream on my NVIDIA Shield, night and day. Just the amount of frustration and just like,
Starting point is 01:05:52 hey, the Wi-Fi is cutting out, calling me when I'm on a business trip. I can't deal with that. Okay, so for Robert, though, what use case does he have to have for that to be worth it for him? If it's only him and his partner and no kids, and if he's not game streaming.'s not game streaming depends on the size of the house i would say good wi-fi is like like if you have a house guest over and you have like crappy wi-fi do you feel obligated
Starting point is 01:06:16 do you feel do you feel obligated to apologize for the crap wi-fi in the late guest room i would maybe like that sucks like how are they supposed to maybe they don't want to talk to you for you know a couple hours you know you're a nice guy james but i need a break need some me time you know can't go watch my netflix on my phone that sucks i can't really relate because most millennials don't have guest rooms yeah fair enough fat cat fat cat don't eat me please i would say get a bidet if you've never used one of those you've heard of the bidets they have in Korea and Japan. If you've never used one, I would say get one. Get them for like 30 bucks.
Starting point is 01:06:49 What? Yeah, the one. Well, okay, you don't have to get a super fancy one. Okay, let me tell my story. I went to Southeast Asia where they don't have the fancy bidets, but they use like what I call, some people call a bum gun. I call it a butt hose. It basically looks like the vegetable sprayer by your kitchen sink.
Starting point is 01:07:08 It's by the toilet. You grab it and you spray your butt. I thought that was amazing. I was like, this is better than toilet paper. It's like zero waste and it's cool. You could argue it's more hygienic. So I got one in my house. It's a little different in Canada because it's not a tropical country where you kind of just dry off really quickly.
Starting point is 01:07:24 But we use reusable diapers so it sprays out. It has multiple functions. However, I was pretty satisfied with this bum gun. Dennis comes over, and I'm like, you're going to love this. As an Asian, I got your setup in there. You're going to love this. He goes in there, and he's like, what the hell is this? No one uses these.
Starting point is 01:07:42 They only use it in like Indonesia and Thailand and Philippines and stuff. If you're from like Taiwan, like Dennis, like they have the good ones. They have a throne. I went to a hotel in Victoria and used a good one. And they range from like 300 to like $1,500. And first of all, have you sat on a heated seat?
Starting point is 01:08:00 Oh yeah. It's amazing. I've traveled in Japan. You have muscle memory for like, when I hit the seat, it's gonna be a little cold shock and when you're surprised and that expectation is subverted and it's warm you're like whoa this is a game changer and then like the water is warm and like it blows dries your butt it's sweet i i had to get uh a shuttle picked me up uh from the airport when i went to japan for Omron factory tour. And the shuttle driver didn't speak a lick of English. So when I had to go to the bathroom halfway through this, like, two-hour drive,
Starting point is 01:08:33 it was real hard for me to communicate. I was like, you know, toilet. Like, I don't know. I was just, I was, like, trying to mime what I needed to do. So he pulls over at what is essentially, as far as can tell like a greyhound station like not like nothing really around it I go into the bathroom at this thing so the building is like the crappiest facilities you would expect it's like I would expect the bathroom to kind of smell I would expect it to smell like urinal cake at best right okay it wasn't like
Starting point is 01:09:05 a disgusting building or anything but like i wasn't expecting a nice bathroom the toilet was the nicest toilet i had ever sat on in my life because this is my first japanese toilet i was like it had a heated seat i couldn't believe it it's mind-blowing that this hasn't taken off in the west and the funny thing thing is, like, you don't even need, like, toilet paper and a bidet don't necessarily have to be entirely mutually exclusive, but you can dramatically cut down on the amount of toilet paper that you use with a bidet. Oh, dude, we have this in our WAN show notes.
Starting point is 01:09:37 There's a thing on here, because of all the hoarding that's been going on with toilet paper, someone made this awesome website where you can, like, calculate how long your stash of toilet paper is gonna last you it's at the bottom okay here i'll i'll go to your screen oh okay sure i have to plug it oh all right how much toilet paper.com how much toilet paper.com okay my wife she doesn't even How many squares do you use? Do you know the number? It's... I would say...
Starting point is 01:10:07 Okay, depends. You use depends? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Depends. I don't know. You don't know? 10? 10 or 20?
Starting point is 01:10:19 What? You just go like... I don't know. Okay, hold on. What would 10 be? It's like that long. Okay, so that's probably more like five or six. Dude.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I fold over. I don't like to risk. Yeah, you fold over, but you can do that with two, dude. I'm rocking two. And when I was really aggressive with this, you can do with one. You do the fold around two fingers.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Man, that is unethical of you. That is- All right, I'm being shamed. That's obscene. Damn. I'm being shamed here. That's fine. Anyway, you can go onto this website. You can enter how many rolls you have and how many toilet visits per day and it's going to tell you how long your hoard is going to last. And it looks
Starting point is 01:10:56 like the default here, when it says 375% of your quarantine, it's there to shame people who hoarded. But these dimensions are just not enough you need to hit advanced options and you can get into squares per wipe average number of wipes per trip sheets per one current value too that is just that's for people like me but i guess does this scale even go high enough for linus there you go 10 max out
Starting point is 01:11:20 10 is too much that would clog the toilet so. So I, okay, I don't pay that close attention. I just want to tell a story about how my wife just, like, grabs, like, a mitt and dabs herself with it, and then you're just like, hurt. Unbelievable. Grabs a mitt. Fat cats. Um, please don't eat me.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Um, alright, so, wow, that was a long super chat response. We're gonna have to go a little bit more quickly here. Ben Quigley says LTT folding team leader. Thanks for the shoutout Yeah, yeah, they shouted out wrong last week They called out the PC master race folding team those guys have got like four times as many folders as us Let's go boys. Someone tagged me on the forum being like PCMR is slaying right now. We need more help. It's like yeah Do this team LTT Like I don't know
Starting point is 01:12:05 if you guys know this but the ltd forum has a huge folding team like we're significant join the team um billy c are you excited about half-life alex i am as non-hyped about half-life alex as i think a vr enthusiast could possibly are you a half-Life enthusiast? I liked Half-Life 2. I played it all the way through. Did you play the first one? I did not play the first one. I wasn't really into PC gaming yet at that point. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And I tried to play it after playing Half-Life 2. I was like, oh yeah, Half-Life 2, I'm sick. I was like, oh yeah, this is not as good. Which makes sense. Half-Life 2 was, like, great. I guess for me, as not already a fan of the Half-Life franchise with those memories, with that nostalgia for it, I was so much more impressed by Far Cry
Starting point is 01:12:57 because it came out of nowhere, launched, like, months before. Like, Half-Life 2 kept getting delayed. Doom 3 was... I don't remember if Doom 3 got delayed but like basically it was all the media hype I think Doom did get delayed. Doom 3, Half-Life 2, this is gonna be amazing! And then out of nowhere this tiny scrappy Crytek delivers arguably and equally visually beautiful just delivers arguably an equally visually beautiful, just way ahead of its time game with this kind of free roaming level design.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I thought I played way more Far Cry than I did Half-Life 2. Is that game related to fear? Remember fear? I loved fear. The first one was great. That was one of the first ones with Havoc. Or was it?
Starting point is 01:13:42 I remember the physics being like unreal in fear. I don't remember. I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't remember if it was one of the first with Havok. Get that piece of more if I'm not playing Half-Life. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'll play the remake. Didn't that Black Mesa project or whatever it's called? There's like a reskin of it in Source Engine.
Starting point is 01:13:59 I do wanna try it. Wow, you can tell how tired I am today that I was up all night, because I get like these kind of rings around my face what were you doing i was up uh playing ano oh yeah right no i played for six hours yesterday after i put the kids to bed i was like i'm gonna go play ano for a bit oh when you hate yourself when you look at the clock and you're like that's too late but you keep playing and you know what i was talking about cutting a lot of junk food out of my diet i ate an ice
Starting point is 01:14:21 cream bar while i was sitting there those are nothing one of the mini ones though the little haagen-dazs ones are nothing those are like irresistible to me i love ice cream sandwiches the almond the almond caramel one that's like slight salted caramel almond haagen-dazs bar i talked to my local grocery store because a lot of the time they don't have it in stock and that's the only time i buy it because they don't carry that flavor at costco thank goodness because if i bought a costco thing of it and it was like there in my freezer watching me but anyway i only allow myself to buy one box at a time which is three bars and then only when i shop which i i don't shop that often
Starting point is 01:14:54 my job is laundry and yvonne does the shopping uh i just i i hate grocery shopping oh really can't do it like i i don't like laundry either but I was like look I will do all the laundry in this house if I never have to go grocery shopping laundry so easy well well I just folding it's easy yeah I fold and then I have to supervise kids putting it away so not actually put it away but putting it away would be easier than like making them do it was actually my chore and I had to put away my wife's clothes folding women's clothing is sucks it's all oddly shaped you're like what do you do I can't even tell what this is it's like some weird shawl like what drawer does this go in so I actually don't put her laundry away yeah I supervise the kids I do mine my
Starting point is 01:15:35 laundry is so simple if it goes on the top it goes there if it goes on the bottom it goes there if it goes under either of those two things it goes here and here that's it we have the same dresser my friend i know right i used to have no dresser that was the move there's no folding at all you just go hanger hanger it's way better really if you have a closet for it take up a ton of space wouldn't it i lived alone okay fair enough yeah all right uh what were we even talking about half-life alex i, I think. Oh, yeah, right. So, right. I said I hated myself.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Okay, yeah, anyway. Half-Life Alyx. No, I'm actually not that excited about it. Like, I played episode one. I played episode two. You'll be excited when it's here. They were, like, good, but I don't... You're going to get it, though, right?
Starting point is 01:16:19 I thought Portal was better than any of them. There. That's not a hot take. Portal's great. Portal's a great game fantastic um i found half-life 2 a little bit repetitive apparently the especially the bit where you're firing around the saw blades in that like creepy village or whatever oh yeah there's that we don't go to a raven raven yeah or whatever yeah i yeah i ended up getting kind of bored at parts of it but i like really wanted to beat it and like Some of the segments where you're going around on the bridge,
Starting point is 01:16:46 I think it is, you're kind of going, okay, go up this and then over here. It's a lot of hiking around. I played Trespasser. Never played Trespasser. A lot of hiking. You know what that game is?
Starting point is 01:16:58 No. It's basically like a Jurassic Park game. It's old. It's old, old, old, 90s. I'm going to play it, though, because I get it for free with my index so like oh nice i'll play it for sure one more uh yeah yeah yeah one more sorry guys um semi on lee says you play on the index a lot have you dealt with it not getting recognized all like 50 of the time i have to like restart headset after I launch Steam VR No apparent reason doesn't matter if I like activate the controllers first or like I don't know It's been like that basically forever. That reminds me of Android Auto. Oh, I love Android Auto, but man, it's so buggy sometimes
Starting point is 01:17:38 Sometimes I get in the car and it just like I can feel the phone go like the phone knows but then the The car doesn't it only happens in the one car that I have. So brutal. Thanks, Richard Joy. Sorry, I'm just doing like some of the really big ones because I feel really bad if I miss those. Jastek says, we started a new gym a few months ago. This is affecting us a lot. We're offering online personal training.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Oh, that's a pretty cool idea. Good for you. Yeah. Way to adapt. Okay, last one. Astier says, feathers or nylon, Linus? Oh, that's a pretty cool idea. Good for you. Yeah. Way to adapt. Okay, last one. Astier says, feathers or nylon, Linus? Excuse me?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Okay. Okay, someone called me, okay, somebody called me low-key racist or something like that earlier when I was talking about white people badminton. When I say white people badminton when i say white people badminton i mean like like american like north american perception of what badminton is like i i mean have you ever heard of the book stuff white people like oh that was a shuttlecock reference the nylons i thought it was like a fetish thing i was like no no no no no okay so stuff white people like is this this book slash blog from like ages ago and it's like yeah stereotypical like like suburban freaking white people um so white people those white people think that badminton is this game that you play in the backyard like this like croquet yeah yeah and the shuttle's like
Starting point is 01:18:55 this big and it's like floppy and like has a big like you know rainbow colored you know fuzzy like foam ball on the end and like that's not the sport that I play. Now, to be clear, there are some places where people with white-colored skin do take badminton very seriously. Denmark, for example, has arguably... Oh, like that jersey in your office. That's from Denmark. Yeah, that's Peter Gada, who was a real innovator when it came to, like,
Starting point is 01:19:24 trickery on the court, trick shots, and he just had a really interesting play style. Are you saying that white people do it the best? No. You are racist. Oh, my gosh. Anyway, so Victor Axelsson, really big player for Denmark right now, arguably one of the best.
Starting point is 01:19:38 He just won a big tournament over in the UK. There are some British badminton players that are are really good but the powerhouses for badminton are china um malaysia actually they've got an up-and-coming player that might be able to take lee chong-we's place but i was going to say maybe not so much for the next little bit but indonesia it's huge india absolutely huge so it's mostly it's more of a southeast asian thing um so that's what i mean It's like playing for realsies. Those are South Asian countries, bro. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:20:08 India is not Southeast. That's a fair point. But it's like, it's huge in Southeast Asia. Absolutely huge. It's really big in Taiwan as well, Korea. Do they now, obviously table tennis, ping pong is huge in China as well. Do they have like all the racket sports are huge there, like squash and stuff?
Starting point is 01:20:26 Do you know? I have no idea. I mean, the thing about China. How about pickleball? You've got over a billion people. Pickleball's for old people. How about it? How about it?
Starting point is 01:20:35 It's fun. Have you played? No. Oh, it's a blast. It seems like it's really accessible. Yeah, they used to move the nets down after one of my badminton sessions at the rec center like 10 years ago. And my doubles partner and I would stay sometimes and play with the seniors because they would bring the nets down and switch it over to pickleball like right after the badminton session.
Starting point is 01:20:53 A nice cool down for you? I actually, Yvonne and I found this great site that's like, it was like 150 things to do on a date. And we were like, you know what would be fun? If we do all of these things. Oh, cool. Like one by one. We're just going to do them all. So one of them was. How far did you get? Well, we were just you know it'd be fun if we do all of these things oh cool like one by one we're just we're just going to do them all so one of them was how hard you get uh well we were just starting okay yeah but one of them was sign up for a class together and we were like okay why
Starting point is 01:21:13 don't we do a pickleball class because that's like you know fun it's something we know enough about racket sports that we wouldn't be complete derp idiots but you know we'd still be learning something new and they literally didn't have a session that wasn't like in the middle of the day oh wow because it's it really is just like seniors only like all the promotional imagery was all you know senior citizens i was like okay well i guess we don't have to play that game i really didn't want to play i wanted to take a class with my wife one time and i was like how, how will it dance? I've done dance classes in the past, and she was like, I'd rather die. And, like, we were closer to taking calculus together.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Really? Than dance? Yes. Ouch. Maybe it's just she doesn't want to dance with you. No, I've seen her. We met on a dance floor. Did you?
Starting point is 01:22:02 The extent of her dance is jumping. She'll just jump up and down. Okay, so she could, like, go to a Simple Plan concert and not look out of place, but beyond that, not really. I've seen her. We met on a dance floor. Did you? The extent of her dance is jumping. She'll just jump up and down. Okay, so she could go to a Simple Plan concert and not look out of place, but beyond that, not really. Yeah, maybe. More likely to find her in Vegas or Ibiza. She used to be into EDM back in the day. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Is that enough? Yeah, so in response to your question, feather shuttles, although that might change they've actually got a synthetic feather shuttle that they are uh trialing in top level tournaments that apparently offers 25 better durability so they'll go through they'll go through a lot fewer of them and apparently plays almost identically i haven't tried one i really really want to try a synthetic shuttle or synthetic feather shuttle um apparently flies just about identically and um should be a lot less traumatic for the geese so cheaper feather shuttles are made they're handmade which is like it's kind of shocking that you can get them for like two dollars and fifty cents or whatever each when you're trying to baby when you look at them um but they are they're handmade and it's only from the feathers
Starting point is 01:23:10 from the left wing of a goose left only the left why the reason is that it affects the aerodynamics of the shuttle and the way that it spins oh you want all of them to be consistent and they all spin like one so they're they don't kill the geese but they do pluck them live and that's apparently all spin like one direction. So they don't kill the geese, but they do pluck them live, and that's apparently... Traumatic? Sounds pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Pretty traumatic. That sounds pretty 10 out of 10 terrible. Can you imagine like a goose farm that's just like... What do you do with it? So you pick all the feathers out of their left arm, and then what?
Starting point is 01:23:36 You like... Foie gras? Yeah. I don't know. Would you let them grow back? Or do you think the geese are just like, please, the other arm! Please, just once the other wing! Yeah, I don't know. This you let them grow back? Or do you think the geese are just like, please, the other arm. Please, just once the other wing.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Yeah, I don't know. This one's so calloused. Yeah, I don't know, man. Anyway, so thanks for... That's it for the WAN Show, guys. It's time for us to go home and enjoy our weekend inside. There's no jiu-jitsu. No jiu-jitsu, no badminton.
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