The WAN Show - My Latest Business Is Not A Stupid Failure - WAN Show November 15, 2024

Episode Date: November 16, 2024

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Red one we're coming at you is the movie event of the holiday season Santa Claus has been kidnapped You're gonna help us find you can't trust this guy. He's on the list. He's a naughty lister naughty lister Dwayne Johnson We got snowman Chris Evans might just go back to the car. Let's save Christmas I'm not gonna say that say it. All right Let's see Christmas. There it is. Only in theaters November 15th. The WAN Show!

We've got a great, great show lined up for you guys today. Only the best. Only the best show for you guys. I forget what our headline topic is, but Amazon is gonna be taking on Sheehan and Temu with a new sub twenty dollar Amazon haul. Also our headline topic, I am less stupid than some people

think I am. I didn't say buy much. Yeah, I didn't say buy much. Just less, just less. New business, apparently pretty cool. What else we got going on this week? If you go to websites on boxes, it might be a good or bad week for you, depends on what you think about certain websites.

I'm gonna leave that as vague as it is. The wicked thing? Oh. I mean, it's in main news topics. I know, but- But there's literally only two things- Really, we're getting pornographic within the first minute of the show?

There is only two things in main news topics. I told them it was a good show this week. I'm going to take both of them, okay? I know but there's literally only really we're getting pornographic within the first minute There's only two things in main news topics. I'm going to take both of them. Okay. I told them it was a good show It's not necessarily bad It's just a news topic hot take we're not saying that's a new record matter is good or bad All right, just what else we got let's get the intro going geez and this is this is I think objectively bad Sony employees allegedly selling personal data of users cool The show is brought to you today by Squarespace, Ridge, Rocket Money, and of course our chair partner Secret Lab, our laptop partner LG, and our rap partner Dbrand.

Why don't we jump into not our headline topic? Oh. And why don't we talk about the channel hiatus stuff from this week? Yeah, we should probably get that kicked out as as quickly as possible. I want to preface this by saying that we will not and have not and are not going to be commenting on anything to do with personnel changes here at the company. That is our policy and that's the way it's going to be. So, with that in mind then, I've got a small FAQ that I can go through with you guys and that is about all we're going to be able to say about it. So, one, what happened this week?

We put three channels on hiatus Tech Quickie game linked and MAC address For the past year and a half ever since sort of our our week of reflection We've had extensive discussions about ways that we can improve our operations and function more smoothly as a company We've spent that time working through operational and communication challenges that we've faced Realistically since our hyper growth period from about 2020 to 2022 2023 and even before that We've learned a lot during this time and we feel that Refocusing and refreshing is the best path forward for the long-term success of the company and even those channels

To what do you have planned for these channels? The hiatus is to allow our team to evaluate and refocus. 3. Is LMG becoming evil and corporate? And the answer here is, if anything, I think a little bit of corporate responsibility is long overdue. Some business management experience was brought in for a good reason. I mean, we brought Taryn in to kind of take a look at things so that we would actually have a full-time CEO instead of a like, when I have time for it CEO, we did all of that before the August controversy last year. We did it for a good reason. We've allowed unsustainable business practices to carry on for far too long

in our past, and this has caused significant issues to morale, to growth, to audience sentiment that are just unacceptable and we need to streamline things. Number four is can we give suggestions about what we want to see happen on these channels in the future? And the answer is totally. Acceptable places for that would be the lenistechtips.com forum. We'd love to see the best one. Yeah, we'd love to see your suggestions on the subreddit as

well. But it's a little more ephemeral, you know, harder to deal with a little harder for us to track down in the future. But the LTT forum would be would be the best part. And that's it. That's all I have to say about that. Yeah, why don't we jump right into... Oh man, what do you wanna do? Oh.

Yeah, my business isn't stupid. One of the top comments on just about every video about Smash Champs, the badminton gym slash LAN gaming center is... Is that really a business? Like, is that a thing? I got, what? To be fair, I think you have even said publicly

in the past that you don't suspect it's gonna be like a super profitable endeavor. You just kind of want it to pay for itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I had a high degree of confidence that it would do that Yes, and it seems like that confidence has not been echoed by members of the community One of the comments is also that it seems very cheap. Ah Well, is that we'll talk about talk about that, but first a quick review of smash champs

Minus his new badminton facility from Mark Makes Jetlag Games. Sorry, what's that now? It's not that quick. Oh yeah, it's really not that quick. A short summary that you have to scroll through. Made the drive today to give it a try. My usual spots were full. There's a soft opening so you can register for a drop-in session.

I booked online and paid with their system. I worried based on pictures that parking would be an issue, but the lot was huge, so that was no issue. Drop-in was $12, which seems pricey, but you get three hours at prime time, and the courts are way nicer. The videos they posted don't do it justice. It's beautiful and bright. The change room especially stood out to me. The courts were fantastic, comfortable, bright without lights in your eyes and easy to see the shuttle and lines. I felt like I played a lot better defense than normal. This may have had an effect on that, who knows.

Actually it's probably more to do with the high ceilings but we can talk about that some other time. Apparently the delay for opening was some kind of manufacturing defect on the courts. It seems fine but hey, good job committing to the highest standards. And blah blah blah, how drop-in works, the Pro Shop seemed fine, the pricing isn't anything special. Yeah, fair enough. All in all, I was very impressed. I would love to make it a regular location, but it's far from me. So, okay, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, so that was pretty cool, pretty cool to see. We haven't opened up reviews on Google Maps yet.

I read this whole thing, so I thought it was cool as well. Because we're not open yet. We're still soft open. And I don't think anyone has, I don't think it's really occurred to anyone to leave a review on Facebook. But yeah, it's exciting to see it not, you know, be totally, totally, totally dunked on. I think the team's been working really hard,

I think they've been doing a really great job, and it's worth noting that any comments on pricing, ignore, because this is soft opening pricing, and I don't know that it will remain exactly the way that it is in the longer term. Yeah. Random comment on the like, I feel like I played defense better thing.

If you feel like you're in a better environment, you'll often placebo yourself into doing better. So like that is potentially even a thing, even if we're not accounting for the high ceiling. That probably isn't it though. So most of the centers in Richmond have lower ceilings. And the impact that that has on the game is it speeds it up. And the reason for that is twofold. One is that when you lift up and when you clear,

when you hit all the way to the back line, you are hitting lower. So it's a shorter time for the opponent to react and hit it back. So it speeds up the game that way. And then the other impact is that it changes the angle of the shuttle so that you are far more likely to strike the cork directly You think he was playing better defense because shots were going like all the way to the roof. Hold on. Hold on I'll get to that. Okay So it changes the angle that the shuttle will that your racket will impact the shuttle

So you hit the cork first instead of it dropping straight down and hitting the feathers and then the cork Which absorbs some of the power? Instead of it dropping straight down and hitting the feathers and then the cork, which absorbs some of the power. So what happens is if you have a higher ceiling, people are more likely to hit it up higher, giving you more time to get into position to defend. And then the other impact is that it is more likely to be falling straight down, making it more difficult for your opponent to generate power. So your defense is probably better because you can see better, because you have more

time, and because your opponent is having a harder time generating power. Now your opponent having a harder time generating power does not mean that like our facility is bad because the ceilings are too high. It means the other ones are too low and people are more easily generating too much power. In fact for international play, you should have a ceiling height of at least 32 feet which is about I think it's What is the smash? I'm so I forget ever were 32 feet. Yeah, so so yeah pretty cool very excited All right, I think it's time though for us to change the subject to talking about Elijah Week.

And we have a special guest here on the WAN Show, the one, the only- David. Yvonne. Oh, we both went for the same joke. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

Is there a mic or am I just supposed to walk on? Wait, yeah, does he have a mic, Dan? Oh, there he is. Holy crap. Oh, look at that. Soft opening, you say. Wow. What? Really?

You're saying soft opening about badminton, sorry. Yeah, but you're going to. I was just reading the comments. It's been six seconds. You're going to make a soft opening while you got this in your hand? At least use two. One's hard.

One Topic's on brand. Is his mic on? I mean, does it matter? It is, but you guys can't hear it is but you guys know it's on me one sec It's gotta get warmed up just give him a minute So what are we some we're entering Elijah week right try rubbing it no not the top You're gonna get verys on it. I need to talk to Arianna after this. You're gonna hate everybody.

Alright, everybody's gonna hate you. No, they love you. Nah, they don't. They'll hate me for telling you not to rub it. Actually, did you know the uh... Did you know the trailer for Elijah Week has the most dislikes? Really? Out of all the other trailers. Wow, what a polarizing figure he is.

I think it was because we kinda like, everyone was wanting Sarah week after she did that pumpkin carving scenario It is and then the next announcement being my week everyone was like no, so it's not that you're unpopular It's just that you're less popular correct all right cool, okay? So yeah Elijah week happened. There's three videos up on float plane. You can go watch right now. Oh, it happened Yeah, it already happened apparently They're having me after because if I went before it would probably you know make people unsubscribe So they wanted to at least let it finish before But you can meet the team which is me. That's hi. I'm here

There was another one which was me showcasing my very first script this script I did not get hired because of I wanna I haven't watched this yet, but I don't get it Sorry, what do you mean? What do you mean by that? So I applied for the writing position back in late 2021. Oh, you didn't work here in late 2021? Correct, I worked here in 2023. So either I missed the email for a whole year or- Yeah, awkward. Yeah, it was really bad, my bad.

Okay, just quick interjection. Unironically, and if you're out there, sorry, I unironically had someone respond to an email from me from 2019, which was progressing them to the next stage of the interview process with the things that they needed to give me for that step. No note of like, sorry, this is so many years late or anything, just here you go. And I was like, what? I mean, they got your attention. That's incredible.

I'm not hiring that role anymore. Yeah, but if you were. We have a great person in there. I'm very happy with how that person's been doing. I just, it's like, it actually blew my mind. I sat there looking at it for like an embarrassingly long period of time trying to figure out like Did I do something wrong like is this actually am I reading some is this a newer email? It's like you've been married your for years

You have like three children and this like guy you asked to prom is like I am so down to go to prom with you This isn't happening anymore. This is over. Oh, that's great. Sorry. And also you dazed horribly. Oh my god. Man, attending the 20-year reunion, I gotta tell ya, some people, like man, do they ever age on like a very graceful curve and then man some people it's just like your wall yeah that's that's rough that's rough I'm I'm sorry for you my ten year reunion next year I'm scared to go are you going definitely not so he's too cool to go yeah we discussed this last week I just I'd be too famous you know this is what I'm talking about oh Oh my god, that hurt me to say, I'm sorry.

Do you think reunions like that are of diminished value now that we have like, highly connected social media? Because I think so. Not that like Facebook is a thing. I don't think- I've always thought that the idea of reunion from people from high school is useless. Because if I wanted to stay friends with you, I would have stayed friends with you. Too cool. is useless because if I wanted to stay friends with you I would have stayed friends with you yeah like no I don't know I was friends with no one in high school so like why do I want to go back to a bunch of people that bullied me like it's also kind of fair if that's your experience nice above it I am he's

risen he's like the cream he's the cream well soft opening. Anyways, The last video in Elijah Week was Creator vs. Superfan. Cringe cringe name. We both said it was cringe when we started filming. Nice. Sammy definitely stacked the questions in Linus's favor. No, he didn't even. But if you haven't gone and watched it, you should still go watch it. He didn't even. I love this look on your face. The confidence of you and me being stuck face Is this even a post thumbnail

It's just a random slide from the video I think all yeah, I definitely is slides Are you gonna explain what creator versus super fan even is are you just gonna leave them out? No, basically What happened was based on the Sam upgrade video? We did a couple months ago, there was one snippet in that video where Linus mentioned that I have an encyclopedic knowledge of LTT and everything. Like our videos. I've been surprised by this a few times.

But it's a thing. It's actually like... It's a thing. James asked me today. And I got an answer. Tell you what, tell you what, why don't you come on my podcast and instead of me talking, you talk. That sounds good. It is Elijah Week.

That's a pretty good point. No, no, no, I was trying to pump you up, I was trying to fuck your feathers. No, no, I was trying to- This is like high school again. What's going on? What's up? You're fucking bad about me. No, no one's talking bad about you, Sammy. You're doing great.

Yeah, we're not talking bad about you right now. Not right now. That was before. You're doing great. Go watch the fight. Okay. I'm working. Anyway, what I was gonna say was.

Why are you here? There's literally been times when we've been looking for like a prop or like a product and Elijah will be like Yeah, there's that video like two years ago where you guys used it and we like go and it's like still there Like that has actually happened. So so his his knowledge of our videos is actually Unsurpassed or at least that was the theory. Yes. Where does your encyclopedic knowledge begin? Oh, I would say Langley house. I watched during NCIX days, but I would say I mean you were like nine

Yeah, exactly So I would say that I was became kind of a hardcore just watching LTT every day when you guys were in the Langley house That was a very Based period of time to be watching every day. I remember when you guys were in the Langley house. That was a very based period of time to be watching every day. I remember when you guys passed a million. Everyone agrees that the content was better then and has only been downhill since then.

100%, whole room water cooling too, let's do it. I mean, who even are these like ancillary characters we have now? What the f*** is an Elijah? I remember when in the Langley house, we started scripting videos. Who is all, he's a prophet. For the first time and it was like controversial.

We did what, sorry? We started scripting videos for the first time. Oh I know, super controversial. You know what sucks about that though? I used to be like so good at ad-libbing and I suck now. Like I have to do multiple takes of things. I used to have some of that. That's for losers. Because of hosting live at shows,

and now I don't have it anymore. Yeah. Not at all. Dude, it's a thing that you can practice, and you can get really, really good at. Like the whole getting a product briefing on something and being like, okay, shut up. Turning to the camera and nailing it.

And then doing like eight more of them in the same day. Yeah, you can practice it, but if you don't practice it, it doesn't matter how good you are It doesn't matter how experienced you are. It is not like riding a bike. Yeah, okay, Elijah could do it someday Maybe I'll ride a bike that was Alluding to where I don't know how to ride a bike. We're home. Yeah That was actually up for debate being the third video on Elijah week. I had pitched backflip tutorial Colton had denied that uh yeah, which why did you even ask Colton? I didn't I? Sammy and I I said we should beg for forgiveness instead of absolutely not

What if what if they went to like a gymnastics center? I don't care Look, he's talked about this publicly already So I'm not disclosing personal medical information that he hasn't already put on the internet for some reason. Elijah has had half a dozen concussions. Which is bad. Literally the last one had to relearn his own birthday. Dude, listen, I'm building...

So when I say no f***ing backflips, it is coming from an extremely serious place, and I am saying that is not happening at work, or for work, or for clout on my watch. I'm building resistance though. That is- The more concussions you have. Not how it works. No, fake news. That's obviously fake news, don't believe that.

Please, for the love of, please. Very much the opposite, really. So when I'm talking about this, and I'm like, no, Elijah's not allowed to do backflips. It's not a meme, I'm not memin'. I'm 100% serious. But. No.

But yeah, I mean, why was Riley allowed to do one in his trailer? I don't think he. Elijah. To be fair, I didn't know Sammy recorded that. My, uh. I didn't know that he was putting it in that video. Until you saw it.

My dad had a, he had a thing that he used to say to me Okay, I'm probably revealing more about my childhood than I ever have before but he used to say you're cruising for a bruising What does that mean can you show us I'll let you figure it out Dan cover the camera the camera. Oh god. So uh, anyways, no backflips. Oh no! Linus, please don't get blood on this set. Ow! Do you know how hard it is to get blood out of this carpet? I mean, look, since we're being very honest right now, why don't we just reveal why we have a rap sponsor for the show. Oh yeah yeah To cover the table oh Just in case something gets on it this would probably make it easier clean too. I don't know about that, but I'm assuming

Dbrand's skins clean very easily with a soft cloth Fortunately Over a thousand men tested. Man hours tested. Fortunately, fortunately, no one's seeing this because everyone's watching the Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson fight. Because otherwise we are so cancelled right now. Well no, they'll watch the VOD, so we're screwed either way. We can delete the VOD, we're good. That's true, we can do that. No, it goes on. I was actually asked to come on here not only to promote Elijah Week, but apparently talk about one of the topics.

Oh. Did you want to talk about it? Why'd you pick that one? I have a screenshot from James that says am I allowed to say the P word? Like corn oh Am I allowed to say that of course you picked that one okay? I'll say yeah because of course he did no I didn't I guys are fucking degenerate I didn't I guys a fucking degenerate Literally he's owned it to the point now where we can't even criticize him for it anymore I already forgot about that whole topic so I was really trying to be like what one would you have picked?

I know I sent I sent James a couple and I was like here's the ones that like I'm fine and comfortable talking about on On stream and he said how about we go with seafood. He said pick the corn one That's on that's on brand for Elijah. You can say prawn. Prawn? Okay. We'll go with seafood. Sure.

So this is a very seafoody topic. Why don't I do just the talking points and then we'll open it up to discussion. I'm sure you'll have some thoughts. We're just like reacting? Oh, I know about it. The original article is from The Verge, also CNBC. Basically, this has been reported on.

Wicked, originally a Broadway musical, by the way, excellent, so good, is getting a theatrical release on November 22nd. Toy company Mattel released a variety of dolls and other toys which, pun intended, were for purchase in stores and online retailers. On the packaging was a link to a website, www., please don't go there right now,

especially not at work or if you're in a family setting. Well, you know what, I'll just say this, www.thenameoftheshow.com. I'm just gonna not say it, which led to not, not the show. Well, it's a show of sorts. A different show. A seafood show. Don't link it in chat, why? Stop it you guys. I've got it on my third monitor.

Stop! To be fair, I did fact-check this at work, so sorry Luke. I was joking. Wait, did you actually? No, of course not, I'm sorry, Luke. Um, just wanted to say. I was joking. Wait, did you actually? No, of course not. I'm not a psycho. So the link was- I'm gonna check. The link was-

I will not. The intended link. Shut up, shut up, shut up. The intended link was wickedmovie.com. So that one we can check. Okay, we're gonna go- Don't share the screen just in case. We're gonna go to wickedovie.com So that one we can check Okay? We're gonna go Don't share the screen just in case We're gonna go to WickedMovie.com and hopefully nothing bad will happen

Okay, we're good Alright, okay, WickedMovie.com November 22nd, everything is okay And we're still live on Twitch Mattel has since apologized for this and removed the toys from online storefronts quote parents are advised that the misprinted incorrect website is not appropriate for children or Elijah. Sorry, I added the last bit. However, the removal of the toys didn't stop scalpers from trying to buy what remained on

physical shelves flipping the original misprint for as much as $2,100. To be fair, I don't know if any sold yet. Let's open up. Let's open up for discussion here. Our first discussion question is, do you think this type of thing happens often in media and we just don't hear about it necessarily, e.g. phone numbers, addresses, or other, you know, placeholder info, or supposedly fake info. Do you think this happens all the time? I actually put a note in there. This happened in one of our videos, where we had put a placeholder something. Is this the encyclopedia knowledge thing, or were you a part of it? I was a part of it, and it became a big thing.

After what was this? I'm a part of it and it became a big thing after. What was this? I'm not going to say the exact video because I don't want people to try to archive, like go back and find it or whatever. But there was an address in a video that we had put that was supposed to be fake. Like a one, two, three, four fake street except fake street is an actual thing. It ended up being a real place and we didn't realize it until a day later because someone had left a comment. It was one comment on the video like no one else had decided to go check

this and we did check it but we must have either misspelled it or got it wrong or something but then all of a sudden I get a message that said is this an issue and I was like probably it was some random address. You gotta just use 1600 Pennsylvania, the White House address. My official address on Netflix is still the White House. Really? I wouldn't be surprised if they mail pamphlet things addressed to me at the White House every once in a while. And the thing is, I haven't only done that on Netflix.

There's some sites that'll automatically block it if they see that, but that's been on a bunch of sites. So like they almost certainly get... Speaking of the White House, that's another famous example of the importance of top level domains. Oh yeah. Do you not know about this one? It's whitehouse.gov.

Yeah. That's the right one. Yeah. That's the right one. Yeah. Don't, don't go to any other TLB. Someone linked it, is it bad? Oh yeah. Yeah, please remove it.

Well, it was at some point. They said it used to be. Yeah, it used to be. It used to be a- You're getting close. It used to be a seafood website. Oh, there's a lot of them out there. Well, seafood's very popular.

Oh. Most of seafood is very popular. Most of the internet is seafood. I hear the fourth most visited website is a seafood website. Is it? It's, it's, it's in the top 10. I know it peaked at four at one point. That's a little surprising. Probably during COVID.

TGA Friday's unlimited shrimp. And I know in the top 20, there's like three or four. That would be a really interesting dive actually. What happened to the internet during COVID? Like, how did people change how they use the internet when they were all stuck at home? There is an amazing we could have a whole series we could call it divers And look into the things that happen Seafood divers trends

There's an amazing graph for twitch when kovat happened, yeah, which it's like oh oh yeah, we're slowly growing and then April like just like doubled. It was insane. Yeah. But yeah. Do you think this happens in any other media though? Can you think of any other examples? Like, I've heard of this type of thing happening before. But I don't, I don't have examples off top of my head. I don't know if this one is true, but apparently there was a tip line that the US military published and it was accidentally like a pay-per-minute phone line. I have not validated that, but it wouldn't really surprise me that much because a lot of those high-priced, like 1-800 paid numbers were that.

So if you were to accidentally typo it, it would be pretty easy for it to be one of those. Okay, and then going into question two though, what do you think, how long do people have to hold on to these domains or phone numbers? Yeah, so that was my discussion question that I put in because in some cases it can be a situation where you publish printed materials.

So whether it's on a package for a product or whether it's on a pamphlet or whether it's on who knows a sticker. Like it doesn't matter. I come across all the time whenever we look at anything retro like games for example. The Nintendo helpline yeah they'll have help support lines they'll have websites how long is like the statute of limitations

for having to keep paying for that domain I mean not every website can be freaking spacejam.com okay spacejam uh oh uh oh what's gonna load is this the White House? no way you told me to not go to it you went to it Yeah, I said not I said I went to dot org

Space jam calm is down we buy it No way It like tried to redirect me to space jam new legacy like that like the new one I didn't know that space jam was down. You gotta go to space jam.com slash 1996 All that sucks. It does kind of suck Cuz they did they do they do a new movie or something. Yeah, they did. Yeah, yeah apparently It was like not very good, but like realistically was the original one really good? I don't know. I didn't I didn't rewatch it. In my nostalgia glasses, it's good. Don't worry Luke

I'm with you, but I'm not gonna rewatch it just in case it's actually garbage. Honestly, don't even know. I don't think I've seen the whole first one. I've seen bits of it. It hasn't held up in my opinion. Yeah. All right. So yeah, so how how long should they be responsible for continuing to pay the renewal fees for a domain? Would you have to just like pay upfront for that whole time or something to like prove that you're actually going to do it? You can buy a hundred of your domains, right? Like I understand it's expensive and especially if you're getting like, I don't know, x.com because that's going to cost a million dollars or whatever, but at that point, if you're launching some big product and getting a new domain name for it,

you should buy 100 years. Sure, but why should you have to do that? We don't. I don't even, yeah, we don't. We've had domains, like I think, do we still have, hold on. Oh yeah, we apparently still have this. When I was doing an eval I had so many questions about that domain. This is f**kingyourwallet.com which we included

in one of our videos ages ago. So many questions. Hold on, did I? What just happened? Okay, yeah there we go. Okay. It's working now so this was included in one of our videos like a bazillion years ago, and it's just a simple little game where you dodge the expensive products. There's razor laptops And why does your why does the money spent go up even if you don't touch the product? I don't know you're just spending money because we live in a society. Yeah, your wallet, okay? So it's like rent and yeah So it's razor laptops iPhones and red cameras that just come flying out of nowhere, and you have to try to dodge I don't really really oh, it's really super hard. It's easier on a bigger screen. You're also on a trackpad

So but some of them some of them come in yeah, I know they think they cut those red cameras come in They come, those red cameras come in hot, brother. They come in real hot. And I think the red cameras target you, so you have to be constantly moving if you wanna dodge. Oh, no, no, no! Oh, God. So, like this is a question that I legitimately have. How long do I have to keep paying for this stupid domain

because we made a video with this joke in it Like these are iPhone 7s or something. This is from like seven years ago We should make a mirror of LTD store comm or everything's just like ten times the price and then just redirect that to it See if anyone buys Domain going forward because if someone that would help cover our like old domains. And like there's lots of domains that we've bought over the years cause we've like, I don't know, thought like,

did we buy makeup for bros.com? I think so. I think we might've bought that at some point cause I thought it'd be like a cool channel idea like 12 years ago. Like men's makeup tips and stuff cause men's makeup was totally becoming a thing. Yeah.

We bought adequate. Adequate video service? Yeah, we bought adequatevideoservice.com. I remember some videos where you jokingly said a URL, and then at the end of the video, I hear you go, please go buy that right now. And then I went to it and it just redirects to LTT Store. So like every time you crack a joke,

and I think part of it also... We've let some of those go over the years. Sure. But I think part of it also though of those go over the years sure Yeah I think part of it also though is like if you do say that or claim it and then People who trust you are trying to go to them in the case wicked. You don't want it to Be malicious. You don't want it to you also don't want someone to be able to get it and then set up a site That looks like yours. Yeah

That's one of the reasons that we've stopped Meeming on like coming up with domain names on the show That's one of the reasons that we've stopped memeing on like coming up with domain names on the show. We used to all the time. Because people would buy them and it became like a thing and they would redirect them to LTT store or to the forum or whatever. Hoping that we would say that it did that. Yep.

And then conceivably, I don't think anyone ever did this. Not that I'm aware of, but conceivably after we talk about it, they could- I know of a singular bad example. You do? Okay. So they could take that domain and they could use it to harvest data, they could redirect it to somewhere malicious. And we would be...

We would feel bad about it, whether we're responsible for that or not. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer. And you're not a cop. So who knows? But but but I but I'd feel hurt in my feelings. These so we don't we so we don't do that anymore. That's fair.

All right. Well, someone just said. Where is it? It's like someone just said adequate video service dot com should redirect to full point it does that one we own, so it's fine. And I don't think we're gonna get rid of that one because I keep telling Luke that I want, I've wanted it for years to be like something that if people dug deep enough into Floatplane's

sort of workings, they could like find it. Does it actually like run any services right now? I think at one point we like thought about it. I don't remember if we actually did it or not. Okay, I still want it to. That's flow plane, adequate video service. It's a little joke, but it checks out. Well, cool.

Okay. Is this you wanting to leave? I don't know if I'm supposed to. I feel like I'm like Elijah's dad. He's trying to get off the phone. Well, I don't want to overstay my welcome. I'll stay here all day if you guys need me to. I just don't want to overstay my welcome. I'll stay here all day if you guys need me to I just don't

Want to overstay my welcome sounds good? Okay, I Had to change because of him we were in the exact same clothes oh Wow, really you had a red sweater, and we both had the cargo pants What sweater are you wearing the I Actually don't know the name really I just got it given to me, okay? It's like I want Elijah. It's like I come what's on the front of it a plant Tree okay, and what's it made of wires? Okay? Try again try again cables

Try again both technically correct Thanks, Dan starts with a C Cables. Try again. Both technically correct. Thanks Dan. It starts with a C. Well, cables. It starts with a C-I. It starts with a K. It does not. Circuit.

There you go. So, so it's a what? Yeah. It's a tree that's made of circuits. Okay, try it in the other order. It's a circuit that's made to look like a tree. Okay. Now other order. It's a circuit that's made to look like a tree. Okay, now shorten it. It's a circuit that looks like a tree.

Reduce more. Oh, circuitry! That's so good. It's good. So yeah, we were accidental twins today. We even are both wearing black shoes with white soles I can't get my leg that high yeah which is why I don't let him do backflips

oh my god so I can do a backflip I believe you I don't wish for you to show me no I don't want you to show me okay you can't on the under table and thanks for having me okay bye bye where do I put this just on the ground floor Matt Man says, OMG Elijah, I wanted to believe he was being deliberately obtuse.

I don't know, sometimes the brain just doesn't do stuff. Muted? Who's muted? Which one was you were muted, but now you're not. He's acute. Aww. Aww. Okay, get out of here. I'm recording that. Go watch your fight.

I'm recording that. Oh no. Small watch your fight. I'm recording that there, yeah. Goodbye. Oh no. Small angle. All right. Wanna 1v1 me? F***ingyourwallet.com. Oh, wow. Dan, do you wanna set a timer?

Yeah, sure, I wonder if I still have that. I feel like this is gonna be really hard on trackpad. I wonder if I still have that timer for the wheel of pain. Okay, no, hold on, we'll have to start at the same time. But yeah, you can warm up, get warmed up, get warmed up. Can I do this as an overlay? Okay, we're doing this thing. Oh no, oh no! It starts to go off the rails so fast!

Oh! Okay, one minute timer. Oh, dude, he's got it, look at it go. Is that a one minute timer? I don't know, it looks like something. You could just time it on your phone. Are you ready? Okay, so we'll press F5 to start Yeah, and then can you show our screens?

You might need a sex if you're Camera on or no, you can also just switch between us You if you just stand in one spot you spend a lot of money No, yeah, the Reds man the Reds the reds are pretty they're pretty brutal They they're gonna get you Those reds they they add up real fast, okay? That looks good enough to me. It's so hard on the trackpad. Oh Look at this guy. He's such a sweaty gamer. Oh, but he has to wipe his hands off before he plays yeah literal sweaty gamers yeah all right let's do this

thing I hadn't I hadn't thought about this site in so long what's hosting it I don't know I mean you tell me I think this is like way pre the infrared team Probably on like some Jake thing you think so probably oh That actually kind of makes sense That's hilarious. Well who even made this game. I have no idea. I don't remember anymore I don't think it was my group. Are you sure I Immediately started questioning that in my head when it came up on screen, but I don't I actually I actually don't remember This was so long ago Some Jake thing ouch, that's not an ouch. Yeah, it just has a lot of different things

I can't really like to yeah, you can keep track of it Okay, Dan. That's that's good enough. Just set a timer on your phone. It's fine No, you just have to call it and then it counts down. Oh Brilliant countdown. Okay, you wanted right? Yeah, brilliant. It's a countdown. That's what you wanted, right? Yeah, brilliant. Okay, ready? Yeah. Yeah. Three, two, one, F5.

Here we go, here we go. Here, oh God, oh God, I got hit by a, I got hit by two reds already, dude. I am like done. I don't think I, I will never financially recover from this. You can't, you can't hang out at the edges you get all I got hit by another red dodging

I'm getting I'm leaving I'm trying I'm making oh my god look guys this is way way harder than all shoot it's way harder than it looks I think I was doing better before I was competing no no okay hold on 20 seconds oh crap so long no okay, okay? Focus I'm pretty sure he's crushing me. Oh my God two more iPhones ten seconds two more iPhones another razor blade Oh, oh, oh my goodness. I had five

four red cameras right For me two one and the winner is look $300,000 spent so Linus is nine hundred and thirty thousand got hit by so many red cameras All right, you can get rid of that that's gonna take like half an hour. Sorry GG. Oh, yeah, that makes sense Okay, I'm gonna just yeah cool. There we go now. I can close that What are we supposed to be talking about about announcements? What even is this show? I can't even tell it doesn't matter Does it look was less than 50k for so long? Yeah, I was killing it for a while And then I started getting smacked those red cameras Dude, they come out of nowhere. They're so fast. They crank your score up so much

anyways GG GG brother GG indeed Yeah, we're doing announcements. Yeah, let's do it Well, you just call the merch measures Merch messages we're doing merch. Oh, okay explain merch messages do we get a here's a question before we do that do we get a new name for it what I'm not even part of that team I'm kind of tired of it being called merch that makes sense what are you I keep call bonus bin items oh yeah what do you guys call the bonus bin items again? That's an internal name. We don't know

Something totally stupid. I want the merch messages named like that item upsell or something upsell. It's the fuss the free upsell shelf That's an internal name. Okay. I want merch messages to sound like that Oh man, yeah, okay. So what are what are other competing products? Oh message guys you got super chats That's what YouTube calls them. You've got twitch bits or cheers or what? Well, they've got like a billion different ways you can throw an additional live order comment What is that a L-o-c Yeah, that's really not rolling off the tongue Dan. Yeah, that was the point

money talks Money talks yeah, it's good. It's not bad super bits Parasocial message Parasocial message is pretty funny super bits is pretty funny send me a PM like which one of you is gonna sue us We took half of both of you, okay? Totally changing the subject. Why did we stop calling them PMs? Why are they DMS? Because they aren't always direct one-to-one, but they're always private

What the fuck I don't understand it group chats The fuck? I don't understand it. Group chats? I'm a boomer and still call them PMs pretty often. Or... No, you're converted. No, no, I was just thinking about it too much. POs pretty often. I think sometimes it also...

Luke, you need it again, I need to fix something. What's going on? Oh, Luke's muted, got him. Okay, well, whatever. It matters on the context. Like in video games, I still call them whispers. Right. Cool. Apparently it's fixed but like I bet you if I was on Twitter I would call it a DM because everyone calls it DMs on Twitter yeah so I think it's the the context of the

platform and you'd never say like like slide into your PMs that's a little weird yeah it sounds like slide into your night which I mean realistically is probably my same deal but like I feel like if you're on the if you're on the That's a little weird. Yeah, it sounds like slide into your night, which I mean realistically is probably But like I feel like if you're on the if you're on the forum you call it Private messages. Yeah, if you're on Twitter, you call it DMS video game. You call it was functionally. They're all the same thing pretty much Whispers but um handy daily deliverables HDD the acronym is good but so yeah the alliteration of merch messages is really good I mean okay would it satisfy you if we just change it to merchandise messages like I'm because merchants just

short for merchandise I'm tired of the like, perch messages? Yeah, like perches. Cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep. Perch messages. So affordable. Now they're PMs. Perch. P-E-R-C-H? Yeah, you gotta send us a PM. A perch message.

I don't know. I am forever calling them additional live purchase comments. I keep reading threads where someone's like, oh, I bought the screwdriver and it's like the best screwdriver I've ever used and I'm totally converted so surprised considering its youtuber merch and I'm just like, ah, yeah, I know It's painful because that's For a lot of people the foot that we have in the door. Yes to get them to try it. I

Instead of it just being a good product yeah and then everyone's is like it's good for being they'll say in the same grouping of text they'll say like this is the best one ever and it's good for being a merch product and those things sound so different they are separate. They are really very different things I bet it wouldn't even take me that long to find To find a comment like that yeah, they're all over the place because I don't necessarily think that people understand What the takeaway from that is for like us? You know what I mean? I don't know. I think I'm just kind of over it at this point I mean I know I'm not like I get it but I also just swag chats swag is worse in this context oh yes like stuff we all get means just

like garbage Aliexpress stuff that is rebranded it's a lot worse we can leave it it's just I don't know I just I want Creator Warehouse to be able to break out of the the bubble that they get put in with a lot of other Creator merch. Well, what's really frustrating for me is that if if they don't belong there, if more people used creator warehouse then more merch would be merchandise instead of being merch But I mean realistically I say that we have to open the doors We don't really have the capacity to take on other creators Anyway, like we still have we still have a lot to learn some of them want it. I know real bad I know poor Luke every time he tries to pitch floatane to a creator, they're like, okay, neat, but... By the way, what

about that other thing you guys do? Can I get in on that? And it's like, um... I think that the... Not yet. And I also just, I think the Creator Warehouse model is inherently incompatible with a lot of creators because it's not merch. I have tried to... I don't know if I had this conversation with you, but the most recent one that we had that conversation with, which they're theoretically joining Flowplain as well, but they are also having this conversation. I tried to talk them down actively this time. I was like, I wonder what that'll be.

So I started going over all the, I don't know if I want to say downsides, all the difficulties of doing it the way that we do. Yeah, where you have to like, hold inventory and pay for things upfront with no net terms and like, it's a hyper risky. Oh no, I totally understand. Want to do it that way sounds good, no problem. And threw out a number of like, yeah, I expect like getting inventory for this stuff would like cost about this amount.

And I was like, wow, I expect like getting inventory for this stuff would like cost about this amount. And I was like, wow, yep. That sounds probably about accurate, including like R&D involved and everything else. It's like, okay. This is a- Sounds good. I think a really positive example of a similar thing. I've been looking for a screwdriver like this one for years.

I don't care about this being a YouTuber product. It's something special. Do yourself a favor and pick up one or two. Yeah. Like I don't, I don't care about this being a youtuber product it's something special do yourself a favor and pick up one or two yeah like I don't I don't mind it in that context I do agree but there's absolutely ones like you said usually like that yeah that's okay that's okay I mean yeah I with how long shop talk shop talk oh shop talk no that has a super negative connotation It's sound it the flow is good and as much as like, you know I never shy away from an innuendo like our verified actual gamer program your band from

like saying Saying yeah, you have to you have to say the full name verified actual gamer program shop talk. Shop talk. Yeah. Well, it's like locker room talk. Like, Oh, yeah. Like it, the, the, the like, is that a dressing just the boys, you know, kind of, yeah, I

think it, I think it has a pretty, I think it has kind of a toxic connotation. Probably just disconnected from this. I don't know. Yeah. I've never heard of it. Just go dumb with it and call them peepee poo poos I mean honestly purchase PM's you know peepees all right I got a big peepee here from you know maybe not purchase merch no it can't say merch. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Additional live purchase comment.

We're not doing that, Dan. Stop trying to make- Connor has been chatting, I'm so down replacing all the coffee with pee-pee poo-poos now. Why is my dashboard changing? The reply button just says poop Man I love I love no chance

Reply and then you you pee it for us to reply. I see show it on this. I see here people here saying Talking shop means something else entirely. Yeah, that's some M. Liper 89. That's totally fine. That's totally fine. I mean, other than that people like, often don't like it, because you're supposed to be in a social context and you're talking shop. Like that's usually the context that I hear that in. Can we not talk shop right now? Like that kind of thing.

Talking about work outside of work. Yeah, yeah, that's talking shop. Which never bothers me, but I understand. Yeah, I know., I don't like their jobs Luke it's my job is my whole life so I literally Really turn off have other things to talk to people about and realistically because of my job It's usually what people want to talk to me about anyway So what is the point of me even like do people want to hear to me about anyway, so what is the point of me even like, do people want to hear about my cats? I mean, some do, but like tone down the parasocial relationship. Like, a lot of people ask what my birds do. Yeah, that's true. And I don't actually have a problem

with that. I like talking about my cats, but I just mean usually when I run into someone at a social function, they're like, okay, whose dad are you? Like, you know, which, which sniveling, you know, snot-nosed crying creature, you know, belongs to, you know, came out of or, or into, you know, your various guy or lady parts, right? Like, it's, it's basically, which critter is yours, essentially. And, and then they're like, okay, yeah, so like, what do you do? And I'm like, oh, I, I, And then they're like, okay. Yeah, so like what do you do and I'm like, oh I I Usually I try to not I try to say I work in media or I take I make videos I do tech Yeah, okay. That's more true for you than it is for me I try to give a true answer that doesn't sort of I make them pry on paper sort of oh, what do you mean? Then I'll be like, okay. I mean I make YouTube videos and I'm pretty sure you're still actually a CEO

Yeah, technically I Might technically still be more than one CEO. I'm not sure Because don't don't forget about all the companies that like are not Like the normal companies. Okay, but you're a CEO of a company that has employees. Yeah. Yeah, I know Yeah, yeah, I'm technically still the CEO of float plane, but that is such horse shit So I remember when you told me one day that it was gonna be me and I was like, yeah sure If you want the promotion go talk to my boss No, it's fine, I don't really care I just do all the things

Pretty much. Pretty much. Call them product placements. Hmm. That's kind of interesting because they buy a product, they place their message. Product placements. Yeah, that's not bad. I always like alliteration. PPs. Yeah. So does it... PP is super on brand. I think I was talking to somebody else about that today because I'm deploying this thing but it's for production

and it's going into production so it's the production production and then we have LTX Expo which is the Linus Tech Expo Expo and we have whale land we hosted a land event land event. Yeah. The whale land event. That's pretty good too. Right. So this one's pretty good too. RAM. Yeah. Random audience message. That's the one I just reacted to. That's land event. That's pretty good too, right? So this one's pretty good too. Ram. Yeah, random audience message That's the one I just reacted to. That's not bad. That's pretty good I kind of like that one. Then you can say Ram me, Dan. And then and then we could stop letting we could stop All right, I think that's enough show for me for today. It was so fast. It's been a really nice Friday. I had a great week.

You can't go off camera after he says that. You can't go off camera to where he is also off camera. NO! STOP IT! Subscribe now for only $15.99 per month. When are we starting OnlyPlains.com again? Not today, because we had to ban people making those links I think we do only planes. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure we own only play like we we probably did but don't go check Yeah, don't check. Oh

My goodness Just blurted out It was so bad I didn't have time for my brain to think about that, sorry That's sometimes a lot of the best things happen Blanchill will calm down soon Can we get through some peepees? Oh, we apparently do not own Only Plains

So... Okay I think that was because we decided we were going to call it something else Oh yeah, that's right If we did that, because it's kind of a terrible name. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it makes absolutely no sense. No, not at all. Yeah.

What are we supposed to be talking about right now? You're supposed to explain what a merch message is. Oh, right, yeah. And then we read one. Merch messages are the way to interact with the show. Actually, no, I'm gonna call them product purchases or product product... Checkout chats? I like checkout chats a lot. Oh, checkout chats! And Conrad coined it, I'm sold. It's almost like having you know people who you pay and who are smart and who

do things for a living. Highly technically competent. It's better than just listening to your audience. He also named it Fuss. That's a good name, shut up. Free Upsell shelf? Yeah, that's not as good. I mean. But I mean, that's the thing. It's an internal name. Check out chats.

You only, yeah, check out chats. I'm an endless defender of internal names being basically whatever you want as long as you can differentiate between what the things are. And Fuss has always been very clear for our team. So it's been fine. It's not clear.

It's gonna stay fuss. So dumb. It's never changing. Okay, checkout chats. Okay, checkout chats. So if you wanna send a checkout chat, all you've gotta do is go to lttstore.com. So instead of doing super chats or Twitch bits

or anything like that where you throw money at your screen, you get nothing in return, we have checkout chats. So you go to to LTT store.com add something to your cart. Oh cart chats Maybe I don't know and it was the point is it's in the cart not the checkout which is part of the checkout Doesn't matter the point is there the check out process when we're live there will be a box in the cart you fill that out and it goes to Producer Dan I still like checkout chats better It'll go to producer Dan who will pop it down there. Like if you have a shout out for your mom or you know your brother or

whatever if it's your birthday something cool like that. Dan will forward it to someone internal who can answer your questions. Sometimes Dan will answer questions himself and other times he will curate your checkout chats. Oh we got all the C's. Wanswars? It's not always Wanshow. Sometimes he will curate your checkout chats and he will give them to us so that I can say, ram me, Dan, and.

And he will. People are saying that we should keep the out in the acronym Check out chats mmm Okay Why oh stop? I'm saying people are saying that I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that myself The some of the people have been saying that and then if we have like a checkout chat counter Then we could spell it with a K.

Yes. Is that really where you're going with this? Not me. Should I just stop leaving any ambiguity here? We're going to call them cocks. Just kidding. Dan, cuck me. I've had a lot of practice over the last year, so yeah.

All right, I've got an additional live purchase comment also known as a checkout chat, also known as a merch message here from Thomas. Sorry, no, not from Thomas, somebody else. Hello, Dan and the photon reflectors. I used your AI support bot last week. Was that in response to the secret shopper video or in the works longer?

Kudos for including I need a person escape hatch That's a that's a dashboard thing from them, but I think it was in the works for a lot longer. I Had heard about it. Yeah way long time ago Basically, I think if you go back to the WAN show where chat GPT like went public beta or whatever I think we probably talked about like support chat bots becoming way better and we probably like talked about it on that show or shortly after that. Yeah, I think they had been kind of riffing on the idea

for a while, I'm 99% sure that's just the creative warehouse team working with their customer support tool provider. Yeah. Yeah. And how about a, what? Are there really that few? Just something Conrad said. Dan, are there really that few curated ones today?

Okay. There's still like 30 in income. He's been busy ramming. There's been a lot of interruptions, but I got some more here. Okay. Do you want another one? Yeah, sure.

I mean, I don't know. HeyWayne.dll, is it likely that the commuter back- You're not too tired. No, no, I can go all night. Just get some water. I'm used to doing this for six hours, you know. This is easy. easy hey hey when I'm out of words hey when that DLL is it likely that the It doesn't matter. I think the hope is to launch it before the end of the year, but I think the odds of you

getting one before Christmas are basically zero.'s that's what I'll that's what I'll say with confidence launched a little bit too late for shipping to be able to line up I think so it might even be launching after Christmas shirts yet. No, it's dude Do you have any idea how long production and shipping takes? I don't care. I just want it. I know I don't think doesn't work that way. This is the whole on it Luke this is the whole thing where our model like doesn't work for creator merch because we're just if something goes out of stock If we gap out on something we're out of it for like four months We don't we're not just buying fruit of the loom t-shirts from some local distribution warehouse like we we make stuff the worst part of this is that I I was like, I feel like I have a dealer.

And now I'm in like forms of withdrawal. Because now I only have two shirts. The first hit was free. And now I put on any other shirt at all. And I'm just like, wow, this is notably inadequate. Where is my proper shirt? But then doing laundry like literally every day because only have one short sleeve one I don't want to wear long sleeves every other day. So doing laundry literally every day for a shirt. It gets a little nuts

By the way before any of you try to solve his problem. Oh and send him a shirt. I Thank you so much for the thought I appreciate the gesture the person who it was very kind who bought some of our tall shirts Packaged them back up from overseas and sent them back to Luke overseas shipping and everything Unfortunately, they were not Luke size and also you don't have to do that He gets as much merch as he wants. Yeah, it's fine Did you send them back? I haven't yet, but I will be okay. Yeah super nice thought but Don't do that. He's he's just whining. I appreciate the concern. He doesn't actually want anyone to solve this problem

Part part of a type part I'm kidding. Part of it is that I'm trying to hype the shirts up because I want them to keep doing well because I have a personal vested interest in the tall shirts doing well. Because if the tall shirt's doing well, there's a higher chance that- We'll do more colors,

we'll do more designs. Printed versions, more colors, more letters. So like I wanna keep kind of reminding people that they exist and they're awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're on it, we're on it. Cause it's good for me. Yeah, we're on it, we're on it. And I think genuinely a lot of people

that don't really fit in normal shirts very well don't even necessarily know that there's like an alternative. Yeah, to like having their belly poke out every time they lift up their arms. Honestly, yeah. So, yeah. All right, should we? Announcements. Yeah, should we do announcements finally?

Yeah, let's do that. Announcing Black Friday, Cyber Monday 9000. It's our big freaking Black Friday and Cyber Monday event. Not only are we going to have some big freaking deals on some of our most popular products that are going to be happening all week, I heard that LTT Store is working with some of our partners to deliver some big freaking bundles that will include some really cool tech. Okay, I found out about one of these bundles literally on

set earlier as I was doing the read for it. And I kid you not, I didn't fake this. I'm not that good of an actor. I was like, is that right? Because it is an absolutely smoking deal. I had a colleague, I had a colleague back at NCIX that used to refer to deals of this magnitude as s*** hot. It is a s*** hot deal. That brought back weird memories. I feel like I heard this phrase. Anyway, there will also be flash deals that are gonna be happening throughout the week, popping up at random times.

So if you've been eyeing anything on the store, I implore you to head to lmg.gg slash bfcm and sign up so you don't miss any of the deals that are happening. Some of them are that good, you are not going to want to miss them. The branding's also sick. If I can just say so myself.

This looks pretty metal. It looks awesome. If you scroll down, they have the, scroll all the way down? The biggest freaking deals. I get it. Sorry, sorry, I'm going, I'm going. What, what? No, well, we can't go that fast, Luke.

We're trying to promote this. Yeah, but there's a funny line of space. So these are examples of things that we might have deals on, okay? Big freaking deals happening throughout the entire week, moments noticed you'll want to be signed up for, multi-bit ratcheting screwdriver, scribe driver, magnetic cable management, big freaking bundles. Is that a keyboard? One of the question mark things is pretty obvious what particular product it is. What this one? The middle one. I actually don't know what that is. Really? Oh! Anywho, this is cute. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get you to scroll through. Yeah, big freaking deals. So guys, make sure you sign up. I'm actually serious right now. I'm talking to you as a parasocial friend, not as a as a shyster trying to sell you sh**.

Yep, sign up because you will actually be kicking yourself if you miss some of these. There's some there's some really really good deals coming. All right also introducing the circuitry hoodie. So the one that Elijah was wearing, the one I'm wearing today. Ever been told to stick to your roots? Well if you're even half the nerds we are, we have the hoodie for you. The Circuit Tree Hoodie. Get it? It's circuits that are shaped like a tree. Anyway, they're made from our 100% cotton hoodie blanks so they're gonna be nice and soft for this winter season and they are gonna be print to order

So if you add one to your cart everything in your cart will ship once these are ready get yours today at LMG.gg Circuit tree we also made LMG.gg slash circuit tree Hum in case you hate puns. Oh, I see okay, so you can spell it either way That was actually smart. Circuitry and also circuitry. That's smart. Who ever thought of that as smart?

That's actually, that's actually pretty- Good job. Yeah, that's smart. Probably Artie, I think I would- Good job. That seems like an Artie move. And then finally, we have a November Float Plane Early Access Drop.

We have another Early Access release. It is our Smash Champs Badminton slash LAN hall audio update vlog featuring the one and only Mr. Dan. Alright that's me. Oh is it obvious from this thumbnail that the car is being towed away? No and your car looks dirty. Is your window open? Yes the windows open. Did they really in the rain? Did they really? When they did the to- I wasn't there for the towing stuff. Did they really? Is the window open in the rain? Okay. We- oh shoot. Okay. Anyway. Okay. Anyway. It's a... yeah, it's a me and Dan video. And Dan talks about the cool PA system that we implemented in the LAN Center slash Badminton Center.

And it's going to be really useful for both LANs and Badminton. So I'm pretty excited and it's cooler tech than it sounds like. Alright? Is this movie magic? You didn't even see it happen. You didn't see it get toed I did see it get toed, but not when I was filming that shot. Oh Yeah Because that would have been like kind of a hassle because it was like out on the street and the audio is terrible So yeah, that's the whole thing. But yeah, no I was I was there when they told it. It's pretty funny

No, sorry. So I was there. I saw the tow truck pull in but then I was like having a meeting If they not actually like take it they just like moved it for a shot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Okay, look it's a Dan Remember that one time when you had to undo all of the audio stuff And then redo it again and then undo it and then redo it again. Was that fun Dan? Where on earth was that? Oh And then redo it again and then undo it and then redo it again. Was that fun, Dan? Where on earth was that? Oh, that was like the first one.

The first one we did. Last week? No, for the all hands. Oh, God. I blocked that out. That was so stressful. You did an inside out too, just like, boop. Just throw that into the void.

No, that was brutal. but it worked, I guess. Someone said, uh, shyster is a bad word, just FYI? Is it? I'm not aware of it. Someone else posted the definition. It's considered a negative slang term that can be offensive and derogatory, but used to describe someone who's unethical, dishonest, or unscrupulous, especially in the practice of law, politics, or economics. For example, you might call a used car salesperson a shyster if they tell you a car is one price,

but the fine print reveals a higher price. Like I'm not aware that it has any kind of like, like racial or gender or like whatever connotation. So I was- Know that it does. Yeah, I don't, I don't think so. Not that, not that I'm aware of. I mean, there's always new, there's always new words that I'm finding out for the first time have some kind of connotation. I had no idea that the function. Someone in the chat said it's anti-Semite,

but there's a link on law.com that currently goes to a 404 page, but it says it's not. Yeah, I mean. It's not a 404 page anymore. I'm not aware of that being that. So if it is, I had no idea. I mean, dude, there's a- At a certain point, like-

There's all kinds of stuff that I just don't know. Like, okay, you know the main selling point of our screwdriver? I had no idea that that, in the context of something that's like shoddily done had like a like a super... Can I say it? Maybe just don't. But I have no idea that it had this like super racial undertones in certain contexts. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So... I knew it. Yeah, okay. We used that word here to describe like something that's kind of shoddy like Shantytown and or like cobbled together and then we

we used it in a video at some point to describe something Alex made you know and people were like like really upset about it so I don't know I don't think I'm just getting old maybe it's's a combination. Okay. I'll concede that it might be a combination, but things just actually move too fast these days. And there's too many words and too many things to keep track of. It's like actually difficult. Jared Suellentrop It is. It is legitimately difficult. Pete Slauson And at a certain point, you got to just... Jared Suellentrop I try my best.

Pete Slauson Yeah. You got to understand that not everyone's gonna know the like weird secret alternative hidden Meaning of every single weird random word like I don't know some there's there's you got to understand intention behind certain things You know I Don't know I think you're asking a lot. I think so, but it still like needs to happen. I'm asking a lot Of money from our sponsors. Yeah like Squarespace Do you have a unique hobby? Wow, those are creepy Why not turn it into a business with our sponsors Squarespace? Squarespace makes building a website Ridiculously easy dog yoga so easy that even Dennis could make this dog yoga website in minutes

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subscriptions by going to rocketmoney.com slash when. Alright. So rocketmoney.com slash when? All right All right sure we can all right Dan is that is that another ram joke? Muted oh you if you want another ram joke. He said we're a little behind on topics I mean you certainly aren't talking about mine. I'll tell you that much More topics sure yeah Sony employees time with our sure Sony employees allegedly selling personal data of users

In a recent 23 minute Instagram video Guinness record holding trophy hunter Hakum has claimed that his user data was sold on Telegram's black market by Sony employees. Hakum has over 207,000 trophies, including 7,311 platinums. Wow. There's a note here. I'm going to read it verbatim. These are not my words. Dumb PS fanboy David. I think David actually wrote that, so that's why I'm saying it. Has less than 3,000 total trophies and three Platinums for reference.

Wow. Whoa. So Buddy has literally, as far as I understand goes, am I reading this correctly? 7,311 Platinums means I. 2,000 times the number of Platinum trophies as dumb PlayStation fanboy David. Yeah, a little bit more.

Am I correct? Platinum means you got every trophy for the game? I think they're just some of the harder trophies. Okay. And a Platinum trophy might also also include get every other trophy. I'm sorry, I don't know because digital trophies for playing a game are not real awards. Hot take, controversial take. I think some of them can be fun to go after.

I didn't say they're not fun. But games are meant to be fun, and if it isn't fun, then f*** it. Challenge can be fun? Sure. I'm sorry I'm I I am oh boy. Should we just move on? There are more important I feel that there are more important things to feel a sense of achievement over. Are you being that reporter talking about the Tetris kid?

Maybe a little bit. Maybe a little bit. But touch grass. That kid though seemed to kind of have his life together other than being really good at Tetris. So. You don't know that Hecum doesn't. seemed to kind of have his life together other than being really good at Tetris. So... You don't know that Hakum doesn't. No, no, I'm just speaking generally.

Hakum might totally have his life together. I'm just saying Tetris Kid, I wouldn't have said that about Tetris Kid because I think there was additional context that the reporter was ignoring. Like, apparently he had good grades and was an active kid who was just really really really friggin good at Tetris So I don't know Anyways, the trouble started when his Hakim's PSN account or PlayStation Network account got banned in September while trying to recover his account he got messages with screenshots from a good Saudi guy

Well, I think it's Saudi but sure Saudi sure Showing that Hakim's personal data and PlayStation account info was being leaked on telegram The same source also claimed that the accounts had acquired the info by bribing Sony employees Although most of the evidence in the video was blurred to protect Hakim. It's probably good It does include a screenshot of one of the offending seller accounts using an email with the official polyphony polyphony polyphony Polyphony polyphony, I believe it's that's pronounced the game with me the game studio. I don't know digital domain

Maker of Gran Turismo. Okay, sure He then started getting calls from one scammer using multiple numbers who claimed to be from Sony's customer service But would eventually ask for Hakim's credit card number Around the time he got answers from the real Sony who claimed the original ban was due to suspicious activity on his account Such as having multiple PlayStation devices in different locations It's possible he had people helping him get trophies, which is against the TOS, as well as popping platinum trophies after just seconds of gameplay. This is possible both by playing trophy farming games, or when auto-popping by loading a 100% PS4 save into a PS5 game or a 100% save into the save

game from a different region? What? Okay. Why do you- so, okay. Can I go back to my point? None of this is real? None of this is going to get you girls. Uh. Really? There might be one. PlayStation trophies.

There might even be two. Tell you what. Some could say, possibly three. You go find them. I could go as far as saying maybe four. Add this box right here. Next week. Someone might step up. Someone might step up. A girl. They might. Who would be like, wow, you slide up next to her at the bar. What up? I got 7,311 Platinums and PlayStation. Check my PSN.

And she's like, damn, can I go back to your house to see them? Maybe. Really? Maybe. Really? Maybe. There's a lot of people out there, you don't know. Someone in chat says the show's dedication. I'll let you continue.

Where even was I? After two weeks he was 20 sec says you won't cheat well I don't know because the the story is claiming that I mean on her because you've got no time oh yeah in PlayStation I mean it's pretty good argument after two weeks he was informed his account would be reinstated after 45 days with strict Censorship, but then there's a note here saying that I think he means monitoring which makes sense. Well plain chat is great She'd be a platinum digger

You guys are great you guys are great why did I ever look at the other chats, okay? Sorry, although he wasn't informed at the time he had been taken off the press list. Don't know what that means. I wish there was more concrete or verifiable proof of the data leaker being a Sony employee as... I think this is Riley. This is text in the dock. Yeah. I think this is Riley text in the dock. Yeah As personally, I don't think the presented evidence is sufficient to be 100% damning definitely spooky though And yeah, I mean I would agree with that statement

I mean the other part of this this is just kind of one example of how your personal data is not really that safe Yeah, we've seen other examples of this in the past. I mean Tesla employees famously were swapping videos that were recorded on people's Teslas. If you put personal information on the internet it's not safe. Well I mean yeah but there's certain stuff that people have an expectation should be safe. Another example that was given was someone trying to, and I have no verification of this whatsoever, but someone trying to find out if someone was cheating on them and trying to find an employee to give them access to the account, to the email account,

by bribing them. Conceivably, there are reasons that certain departments within a company could have access to just about anything. Like any department that's in charge, for example, of monitoring for child sexual abuse material, CSAM, could conceivably have access to just about any DM or PM or email or whatever the case may be. Pretty crazy. By the way, rest assured says, fuck me in the ass messages. Tried to get him. Tried to get him, I was saving that.

You're a little bit too late. Dang it. I'll get him someday. I'm gonna get him someday. All down his shirt? It's been a long time, but I don't want to bet against that. I'm gonna get him. Dan, I just got that.

Go back to your show. I'm gonna leave now before I get beat to death. You're getting close. My goodness. There are discussion questions. Sure. If 2FA wasn't a thing, do you think you could hack into other hosts' accounts and steal their info? Um, hosts?

Yes. Accounts? Like you mean like our like like our hosts who work here? I'm assuming he means, this is a WAN Show comment, I'm assuming he means like us. Oh. Yes. Um, yeah, I mean pretty pretty easily honestly. To be honest, without 2FA? Like I have, for instance, I mean am I allowed to use every tool at my disposal? I mean, I think so.

Because like, I can access... If it's acquirable by... In fact, I think all three of us have access to the surveillance cameras. So all I would have to do is contrive some situation... Oh, okay, set that up. ...where I have you log into your account sitting like close enough to a camera and I can just like see your password. Like two-

I'm not gonna go over all the reasons why, but literally any account you have would be hilariously easy. And like these ones- And I have literally gained unauthorized access to Luke's accounts before. I made a joke the other day. Do you remember that?

When I literally logged into one of your accounts or one of your computers I believe it fully and I was just like you were like, huh? And I was like, yeah, I like guessed your password and you were like, right the other day. I was making a joke about Like Anyways, I was making a joke that the conclusion was that like someone would need to be able to access the stuff on my desktop And someone made the comment of like how would we get in? I was like a joke that the conclusion was that someone would need to be able to access the stuff on my desktop. And someone made the comment of how would we get in? I was like, Linus knows the password. So yeah, you already have it to some of my stuff.

Yeah, so it's one of those things where the easiest way into someone's account is obviously social engineering and the better you know someone, the more easily you can social engineer them. Do you know how quickly and easily I could social engineer Luke to type in like a dozen of his passwords? All I'd have to do is go get an OMG cable, put a keyboard in front of him and be like, okay, let's do like a typing challenge test. But I don't want it to be random things. I don't want it to be random things.

So like, okay, I'll tell you what, just like lead the doc as it is, but like type your most common, like type your keeper password and type this and type that. I'd probably sniff that out. That's a little bit I could I could come up with something better than that something But like realistically if you have physical access to someone I could just put an omg cable on his case

And then eventually I would find everything. Yeah, I mean it said hosts, right? So I mean these have a lot of like extensions and stuff. Yeah, I'm sure you can hide something under the table For sure never really notice. Yeah for sure. yeah. That's why I was so confident in media. Now, like we have physical access to each other's computer. Yeah, so easy. Like, it's over. I can see all of your cables from my desk. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Super easy. Yeah. It is what it is. The next one is, what can we do to protect our info against such vulnerabilities as bad actors within a corporation?

Not much. Don't share passwords across sites. Try to like lower the impact of the potential damage. Use auto-fill. Auto-fill is better than typing in passwords because it closes the vulnerability to a keylogger or to an OMG cable. It's still not perfect, but it helps a lot.

It helps a ton. No, but it helps. Yeah, and... Record recur says air gap. You can't air gap, nothing is air gapped. Not really. Yeah. Well, I mean-

Yes, but no. Yeah. But yeah, but also no. Because there's ways to deal with things when they're air gapped as well. I've talked about this before, people disagree with me, that's fine. I hate that we use the term air gap for things that aren't quite literally air gapped drives me nuts

There's a there's a company that makes network equipment actually pulls it out that like physically disconnects the port. It's pretty crazy over the management interface And like I was like does this really need to exist and then I was like, yeah And like, I was like, does this really need to exist? And then I was like, yeah. Depending on what the level of security that's required is. Yeah, I could see an administrator being able to literally remotely disconnect any port. Yeah, I could see that having a huge value.

Anyways, moving on. We got more stuff. Yeah, what are we talking about? An Intel AMD merger is an idea that was reportedly floated by the US Commerce Department. Our headline says it might be less outlandish than it seems. But I actually strongly disagree. I think it's I think it's pretty I think it's pretty outlandish I also think that the rumors of Intel's demise are Have been grossly Exaggerated over the last little while like I think it's more a very serious difficult to properly recover from trip

Not a fall. Yeah Intel is not Intel is not like going out of business tomorrow. Also, my understanding of- They got free coffee now. Yeah, also my understanding of the whole like x86 license-ness is that actually, oh, I don't know, Intel and AMD both agreed, yeah, I guess there's no third party

that would step in and say no. Also, just as consumers, I don't know, if Intel and AMD both agreed, yeah, I guess there's no third party that would step in and say no. Also, just as consumers, we don't want this. Having literally only one x86 company, also, I just don't see the synergies. Like, AMD has their own designs, their own jam, their own drum that they're marching to right now. They're a fabless company, and they're killing it at that. Pete Slauson Doing better.

Jared Slauson And Intel, for all of their challenges with it over the last few years, is a fab company and that is their competitive advantage if they can regain it. And I just don't see what they would need from each other necessarily even. It is worth pointing out that this sort of thing has happened in the past. I think this is from the Digitimes article. Lockheed and Martin Marietta were merged during the Cold War. JP Morgan Chase acquired Bear Stearns in 2008. In 1968, the US government encouraged Pennsylvania Railroad and New York Central Railroad to merge. That I don't know if I'm convinced any of those things were better for consumers in

any way. So let's not root for this, I guess would be all I have to say about that. But generally less competition is bad. Yeah, there is immense endless proof of this. Yeah, you don't want consolidation. Yeah. Cool. Nice. Speaking of highly consolidated companies, integrated companies, Amazon is apparently taking on Shein and Temu with a new sub$20 Amazon haul. It's a mobile- only? Okay, that completely kills, like, my plan for this for Wanshow. The only reason this is in the

dock is because I was like, Luke and I should shop for lulls. What am I looking at? Is that- A phone on a dock that is capturable by the stream, I think. I think Dan's away for a second, but that's set up for something else, but I that's for something else But I think we could oh cool. Okay. Well. Yeah, anyway. I'd wanted us to maybe that is set up for this I'd wanted us to shop well Dan's not there Luke. He's not there. Who are you talking to? You're like looking past the camera at Danny. He's literally not there. You can see he's not there. Yeah He's he's there in our hearts though Anyway, come back. Come back. It's so it's a mobile only shopping experience. Can. He'll come back, he'll come back.

So it's a mobile only shopping experience. Can we just call it a store? This mic is still on. I just kicked it by accident. Oh, no, just because we can hear it doesn't mean that. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Hey Dan, what's this phone for? Oh, that's for a segment.

Oh, it's for Hall. Yeah, so it is for this. Oh, sick. What a guy. Bad timing, but that's cool. No, it's cool. No, no, you're good. Okay, so it is for this. Oh sick! What a guy. Bad timing, I'm sorry about that. No, it's cool. No, no, you're good. Okay, so we're gonna shop.

Do you have to do anything besides that? What double phone is this? Alright. Watch me hack it. Oh, there was some reason. Watch me hack into this phone. Dan explained. And hacked.

Whoa! He's elite! He's in the Gibson. Elite hackser. Elite Hacker. Okay, cool. So does it have the shop on it? Yeah, I'll do the thing. Oh, I mean, I could have hacked it. I could have hacked it.

Yeah, probably. I can hack it. Yeah, probably. Okay, we got a Luke's laptop. Oh. Oh! Oh, that's cool. And now it's a mouse.

Now it's a, wait, now it's a what now? Now it's a mouse. It's a mouse. It's a dex, because I couldn't find the iPhone. Oh, we're using dex. Luke's cool. And now it's a mouse. Now it's a, wait, now it's a what now? Now it's a mouse. It's a mouse. Because I couldn't find the iPhone. Oh, we're using Dex. Luke's laptop. Okay. What? Yeah, Luke's laptop.

What's on? What's supposed to happen to Luke's laptop? Oh, brilliant. It should be in Google at the bottom. Genius. Okay. So you mean Chrome or, oh. Oh, I understand.

Oh, that's funky. Okay, hey, there we go. We're on mobile, but also not mobile. Okay, so it's Amazon Halls. Amazon Hall. Way to go, Dan. Okay, as Modern Retail points out, Hall is already inundated with misleading AI images

on product pages. This program marks a strategic shift for Amazon as it directly competes with platforms like Sheen and Temu in the cheap junk market. Amazon Hall's focus on low cost goods raises concerns about product quality, sustainability, and ethical sourcing. I mean, if those weren't already concerns for you on Amazon. I think a lot of people will say that they care about that and then they'll go to a website to buy something and be like, that's expensive. And then go to something like Shein or Tmoo or something like that and be like oh wow I'm gonna buy that I suddenly don't care.

Dude the number of people that virtue signal to me about all kinds of stuff and then immediately you're gonna be like four dollars for a little mini broom what a rip-off I could get it for two it's like well yeah anyway uh Luke laptop. It's like, well, yeah, I'm like, anyway. Luke laptop. So- It's important until it affects my wallet. Okay, so what are we looking at here? This is a little bit eye strain-o-vision, not gonna lie.

Dan, how much do you know about Dex? Is there a- I don't know. I couldn't like figure it out in time, unfortunately. Cool, okay, well, what's this? Let's let's look at some stuff. This is mobile only which is why we're on decks. Really don't think it's a shoe Luke. And it's probably designed for phones not for a

16 by 9 monitor. Yeah I mean that makes sense. What was it? What was this product? It says below the picture. Did I just add this to cart? It says below the picture? Above the color selections. Above the, what? What are you talking about? Oh, shoelaces for athletic boot. Shoelaces for men and women, one pair. Okay, well, where's the price?

Where's even the price for it? Is the price in the bottom right, Dan? Are we covering the price? I forgot, yeah, maybe you- Are we requesting a desktop version of the site? I don't know. What have you done, Dan? I don't know.

I tried to get it together very quickly. You know what? Good job, Dan. Okay, let's go- Luke, you have to rescind your head pat as well. Yeah. Okay, what's this? We got-

We're like a RAM. Where's the price Can't see very well, I don't know I don't know where the price is What is this product? I think it's pants or are these are these other products. Yeah, these are just completely other different products Weird you buy a These are just completely other different products. Weird. Do you see any AI images yet? I mean, this is just badly Photoshopped.

Like that person is clearly not standing in that room. Oh, you've got to pick- I almost wouldn't expect it to be better if it was an AI image. Jordan said that you have to select one for a price. You have to select one. So go back up and- I thought we did.

But didn't I select one? Are we on a product page right now? Yeah, I'm on a product page right now. No, no, no, you you got to select a variant. Oh Okay, this one But what no, no, no, no, I figured it out. I figured it out this one. Okay double tap to zoom Nope, not necessary picture viewer almost certainly you need to go back. Yeah, go back. Oh Okay

And down just a little more. Yeah a little more., there you go. This, now pick a size. Oh, I have to pick a variant. I thought there was a default. And a size, size, size, size, size. Oh my God. Okay, so a medium. Okay. Cool. Where's the price?

Where's the bloody price? Down a bit more. Grass green, more like ass green. Did it say unavailable? Go back up. Oh. Up, up, up. Oh my goodness, look at this guy's biceps. Ripped. Dang? Go back up. Oh my goodness. Look at this guy's biceps. Ripped.

Dang. Go back up. Dang. Wait, how, but how is his shoulder so small? How can he have biceps this big and a shoulder like that? Deltzer, Deltzer really hard to grow. I always skip shoulder day. No.

I don't, I don't, I don't buy it. Egyptian cable lateral raises. Okay. Okay. What is this? No, those are awful. So free shipping on, shipping on twenty five dollars. What am I even?

I feel like. I feel like we may need to just use the mobile app version of this. I'm going to try to verify it. So wait, it's an app. I can't go to a website. It is only a website. It seems to be. It's only a website. It's only a website. What is it called? But it's only mobile Amazon Hall. Yes, is there a way to force is that is there a way to force? The browser to open the mobile version. I have absolutely no idea

you might be able to try the The kebab menu top right I can't see it because of the two to three more topics thing. Oh, okay. So I can't, I can't, oh, hello. Sorry. Okay, cool. So no, this is mobile site, but we could call for desktop site.

So I'm looking on- I think it's just amazon.com now. I'm looking on my phone too, and I also do not see price. Yeah, this is just Amazon. Actually identical. Okay, so how do I do this? So wait, is the website just terrible?

I don't understand what I'm looking at at all. It's in the Amazon mobile app. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you can, yeah, someone just said you can use web tools. I want to buy this. True, sorry. Let me buy it. Okay. I don't know how to get to the site even.

Yeah, sorry, where do you want me to't know how to get to the site even yeah sorry where do you want me to go though like what is the domain uh I don't know it's just Amazon.com search in Amazon Hall how do where is that very make something Amazon Hall I don't know if you if you close this out the search bar is refilled with search in Amazon Hall. Uh-huh. Wow, this is absolute chaos. Go back to the top. Okay, so I'm back here.

See the search bar says search. Oh God, sorry, there's a lot of gestures on this track pad here. This is the worst experience. What am I? This is like watching my grandparents try to use a computer. This is horrible. And I can't, there's nothing on here so I can't like fix it on here and then go back

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desktop so I can more easily navigate. OK. OK, so now what? I don't know where it is. Yeah, Amazon Home. Okay. Okay, so now what? I don't know where it is. Amazon.com. Yeah, Amazon home. Did you Google Amazon hall? Yeah, Google Amazon hall.

Oh, oh, amazon.com slash hall slash store. Here we go, here we go. Chat to the rescue. Guys, I'm so sorry. This must be incredibly hard to watch. Oh, yay, okay. Unbelievable finds. What do we wanna do?

Men's golf pants stretch? Let's do it. It's an unbelievable find, okay. Unbelieveable finds. What do we want to do men's golf pants stretch? Let's do it It's an unbelievable find Luke Okay, here we go Where's the price? Free shipping on $25. Yeah, I got it. If you keep scrolling down and just switch it just loads things forever. I Don't understand. where's the price see oh there was apparently an error at the top of the need to be logged in login oh

okay long story but I do not have the 2FA for my Amazon account so I cannot login was that taken away from you? No. Were you a bad boy? No, I just don't have it. Because Yvonne has it. Okay. Yeah.

Well we both use the same account. Yeah, sure. And only one of us has our phone number on it, so... There you go. I mean there's solutions to that. Yeah, but I don't care. Yeah. Cause like, whatever.

Fair enough, fair enough. Who cares? It's an Amazon account. Apparently you can use the whole app. But yeah, cuz like whatever Who cares it's an Amazon account Apparently you can use the whole app, but yeah, we're trying to show it to you guys So we want to use the site I could sign into it, but like I don't really want to sign anyway Yeah, I don't blame you So cool, Kouichi says you can borrow mine nice. You know what I don't know if I care anymore Yeah, cool Nice, I think I'm over it so Amazon hauls everyone. Yeah

Thanks, Dan I thought when you had the whole rig it was an app okay? No, that's why I had to do the whole rig because it's just a bloody website You can just request anyways, because it's just a bloody website. But you can just request, anyways, whatever, it's fine. Okay, whatever, I only learned about this 20 minutes before the show started. You know what, I'm just gonna show people how it works,

because it is actually like- That's probably a really good idea. Okay, so- Do some learning for this traffic fire. I didn't mean to do that. Okay, if you have 12 12 and then click on this little oh I already did it so if you have 12 and then there's oh you got to hide the merch message at the top there we go this little button right here that

shows like a laptop and a phone if you click on that you can get different you know responsive design dimensions so now it thinks I'm on a phone right so you can view and experience websites, potentially your own website if you're trying to do development, in different formats, different screen sizes, stuff like that. So you can, you know, you don't have to own every single version of every single crazy,

stupid Android phone. Also, I just noticed this, what is that? I don't know, but it's cute. That's awesome. Aw. Anyways, that is actually like a cool, fairly handy thing if you didn't know about that. It's kind of neat.

All right. Speaking of things we didn't know about, we have talked a couple of times about the Sydney Island deer cull on the WAN show. Yeah. And I received an email this long. Wow. About our discussion. Apparently I was very wrong and misled.

Okay. And I did click this link and I spent probably about an hour poking about on it and it is less, far less stupid than we have been led to believe and led you to believe. So I'm open to mind being changed. I have a hard time believing that but I am open to facts. So what what we talked about was there's this island that has an invasive species of deer and we were laughing about how the Canadian government has apparently hired international helicopter hunters to come and shoot them and we kind of talked about how hunters would have paid to hunt those deer and etc etc etc and there are a lot of reasons that I

wouldn't have considered for why that is not actually a real solution. So one of them is that they have attempted that multiple times and the problems with the solution of just having hunters cull them is that they don't get everything. And whenever they don't get everything, the population bounces back. Pops right back up. Not only that, but when that population bounces back, it is every single time a more difficult population to cull.

Because what the population there has learned is that during hunting season or during hunting activities, there are places on the island which is populated by humans, there are places on the island that they can go where they cannot be hunted safely by recreational hunters, and they will camp out there, they will hide there, they'll wait there, and they'll just wait it out. Closer to people, I'm assuming, because you can't shoot? Closer to residential areas, so they'll hide there,

they'll hide in areas that are extremely, So how does? extremely difficult to access on foot, which is where the helicopters come in. Gotcha. And basically, what I was not aware of, and what I have now had my mind opened to, is that rage bait headlines like that

rarely tell the complete story. In response to your question before the show, did it really need to be like a culling company from New Zealand coming across the entire half of the freaking world to come do it? Well, they did a bidding process and they won the bid. It was that simple, that decision. So they were looking for someone who was qualified

in this type of call They put out a bid and that company won the bid. So that's why I thought it okay And one of my problems here is I'm getting a lot of my information from like random sources that I've come across here or there Yeah, I thought it like didn't work very well, and they only got like 80 of them or something So I think it's don't quote me on this But I think it might have actually been paused for now like I don't know if I don't know if this I know it's paused Now but as far as my understanding goes that that is because of the fencing Killing deer that they didn't want to it's like non-invasive or something. I think it's completely unrelated

So it is possible that this won't work But When we were laughing about this on the WAN show and we were like here's all the other things that could have tried they have okay they have tried that's fair enough I still massively questioned the whole helicopter approach so apparently there are parts of this island that are extremely interesting to me inhospitable to human traversal yeah you don't want to be like you're hanging off a cliff trying to shoot a deer, but deer can access them

Yeah, so there's an entire There's an entire Parks Canada Like micro site about this whole thing. What's the issue? What's been done? What have we tried? For literally 40 years We've tried hunting and culling and etc. etc. etc. Eradication, a globally proven conservation method. Here's the timeline. Why are we doing this?

Here's a huge FAQ. That is a lot. I spent a lot of time reading it. It may not work. It may not be excellent use of funds. It's not obviously stupid either. See, I think my biggest problem was the use of funds made it seem stupid. Sure. Like this is the, I think, the specific article that I had found. Yep. So like, I don't know. And that's, you know what? That's fair enough. Maybe it didn't work and maybe it turned out to be stupid. I don't know. But it was not their first choice. Yeah. I don't think I said it was

their first choice. No, no. We didn't. But they're basically, it's not just a completely irrational, completely stupid thing either so all I'm saying is that the truth is often nuanced and rarely just Yeah, I do know that some of the prices that were thrown out were wrong because The that wasn't the caught that wasn't the cost of the helicopter shooting people. That was the cost of the entire project, which as it tends to go with government stuff, included a lot of other things, not just the helicopter crew. It involved a huge amount of steps in the process,

dealing with things in a trillion different ways So the the like millions of dollars number I think is I don't know if I would necessarily say inflated But I think when people were describing the project They were only describing the helicopter part and then putting the dollar value on which I might have also done So it makes it sound like that was just for the helicopter portion, which I don't think is true. I think there was like paying native tribes and doing a variety of other things. Wow. Apparently Netflix video quality is like all over the place right now is, is the main event happening now?

Is that being streamed on Netflix? Yeah, I thought it was a Netflix deal. Oh, wow. Um, has Netflix ever had a fight before? I don't know. I mean, Netflix does all kinds of stuff, so who knows? I don't know. See, people are saying not yet.

Oh, it's the women's fight now. Well, I mean, that is the only real fight. It's on Netflix. That's like an actual main event. That's apparently like an important fight. Oh, okay. Yeah, the like actual legit fighters and stuff fight. Yeah, quality is

apparently terrible Yeah, minus likes cat fights confirmed. No. No, I don't I'm not really I'm not really like a combat sports watcher but I know that Andrew is I really liked watching one of them is Irish and I also know that You know, apparently this is this has been the whole The whole circus show that is accompanying you know this this women's fight Has been very helpful in promoting women's boxing so okay. I think that's really cool

Sure, so that's where I'm at on that I Liked watching GSP because it felt very technical. That kind of got me interested in jujitsu. That was a big thing that led me into starting to actually train jujitsu was like seeing like, oh, this is this is like I don't know. Anyways, I've really matter. I've watched a sick like half-hour YouTube documentary on this guy Okay, he is an incredible story I again like I'm not into combat sports. I don't really care

but Butterbean is like officially my hero. Oh, it's butter bean. Okay. Yeah, I didn't recognize him. Yeah So it's one of those things where like I can I can definitely appreciate Certain characters or styles and I can definitely get behind like an underdog nobody story and stuff like that But it's not I Don't know. It's not It's not like my thing. I don't fall. I don't follow it closely or anything like that Wow, M poc nor 47 says Netflix won't even load Midwest US. I mean, that's the thing.

I think people don't, I think people for the most part don't understand what a fine balancing act infrastructure is. It's also streaming, they do a lot of VOD. Like how razor thin the margins are in this industry in some ways and how hard fought the efficiencies you gain are and how dialed in and tuned your architecture is for your anticipated load, for your typical use case.

Like Langley Man said, Langley DC has 4K Netflix. So it's probably not a origin issue. It's probably more of an edge issue. Yeah, so it could be that where you are, all of a sudden there's like a huge influx of Netflix users, for example. Taking it down. Possibly.

That's crazy. That's genuinely pretty crazy that Netflix is struggling under this. That's pretty wild. Yeah, but also it surprises me and also doesn't. Mm-hmm. Because, yeah, that's a thing. You see like... But some big game will come out. Yep.

And like, oh, oh my god, everyone, like half of the Eastern seaboard is, like internet speed is low to a crawl. Like these things do happen not often anymore. And credit to the folks who design and maintain these systems. But it's a thing guys. And like Lu said, live. Live is tough. Live sucks. So much harder.

Like yeah, I paid for Sports I I paid for sports net when during the playoffs last year and like yeah I was freaking annoyed. That's the video quality was so crap kind of like And that wasn't the player sock too. Yeah, like yeah I don't know if we're like how much the well one of the details was that you figured out how to pirate streams Just exploiting their player So that's one thing That sucks about it. We literally have better DRM than

Roger Sportsnet, which is pretty embarrassing. I learned so much about online video from doing that. I wanted to try to steal it from my own platform. And then you can just do that for everyone else's. Yeah, you learn.

Pretty funny. Um, anyway, like I remember being annoyed about it, but on the flip side, And then you can just do that for everyone else's yeah pretty funny Anyway, like I remember being annoyed about it, but on the flip side, I mean for how much they're charging I should definitely have gotten better video quality, but but on the flip side I do understand that streaming video is really freaking hard stuff All right, what are we supposed to be talking about right now? All right, what are we supposed to be talking about right now? Oh, the EU fined Metta nearly 800 million euro over Facebook Marketplace. They're saying they violated EU antitrust rules by tying Facebook Marketplace to their social network Facebook, which gives Marketplace an unfair advantage over rival classified ad services. The EC also found that Metta exploited data gathered from Facebook users to benefit Marketplace,

further solidifying Marketplace's position and hampering competition. This includes using personal data to display personalized ads on Marketplace. That makes sense. The EC asserts that Metta's anti-competitive behavior limits choice and innovation in the online classifieds market, that consumers face fewer options and potentially higher prices. I will say before there was like a bunch of options and now everyone just uses Facebook Marketplace. But what I will say is I use Facebook Marketplace because it is way better than everything that came before.

Everything before was pretty much terrible. Text on a page. And the integration with Facebook and tying it to a real identity and a real user account where you can like rate someone's transaction and it like appears on their real like actual identity assuming that they are using a real account. There's obviously fake accounts, but I'd like to think I can tell the difference pretty easily. That is a fundamental... What? I just... You're talking about how they're kind of crappy sites and this stat has just always floored me. They make that much? 50 employees, annual revenue, 694 million. They just rake it in and always have,

and then just, you know, what should we do with the website? I don't know, just make it. I love Craigslist. A tech site with HTML links. It's what Google should have stayed as. It's so basic. I love it. You back off my Craigslist.

Craigslist is a stunning company and website that people don't really think about. And then- And they don't even have like sex work anymore. Yeah, that was a thing, wasn't it? Oh, 100%. That was the only reason Craigslist existed. Yeah, I don't know.

As far as I could tell. Yeah, it began in 1995. So it's been running for 29 years, revenue 660 million. Wow. Okay. Crazy. Absolutely crazy. Just one of those companies that, yeah, doesn't get talked about a lot and just rakes it in.

Anyways, sorry. Okay. Cool. So, anywho. Yeah. Okay, cool. So, anywho, yeah, so I don't know. On the one hand, yeah, they're right from an antitrust standpoint. They're like 100% right. And I wish that other jurisdictions enforced antitrust the way the EU has started cracking down on it. It would absolutely be a good thing. I don't have much hope for the next little while

as far as that goes, but hey, Lena Kahn, we're rooting for you over here. Please hold on. Yeah. I know there's nothing you can really do about it, but please. From my point of view, at least for now, until Facebook abuses their position,

Facebook Marketplace has been a very good disruptor. I love Facebook Marketplace. I think there's things that they could do better. What's the differentiating things that you like? I like that it's tied to an actual profile that you maintain and care about that is a reflection of your personal image. I think that improves accountability compared to the number of times I've been ghosted on something like Craigslist. Do you ever try to sniff out if an account is real

Or not. Mm-hmm. I like that. I like that messaging is integrated That's super convenient. It's it's on an app that I already have on my phone and already use so another layer of convenience Craigslist emails are a little annoying. Mm-hmm And and the fact that so many people don't include any way to reliably contact them Like people don't like putting a phone number on Craigslist for obvious reasons. But if you don't have a phone number, I mean, the best you can hope for is maybe 24 hour return round trip times for communication. It's not fast enough.

So I like the immediacy of arranging things. I like that maps and locations are just integrated into the platform. People have to say where stuff is on Craigslist, but it's not validated in any way. of arranging things. I like that maps and locations are just integrated into the platform. People have to say where stuff is on Craigslist, but it's not validated in any way. Whereas Facebook, it's just, it's like your location that you've selected at some point and it's just like part of the whole listing is my understanding. I'm actually not sure about that last one, but everything else that I've said are things that I love about Facebook. Marketplace.

The instant messaging makes trolling people that post things for free or a dollar and actually want it for a lot more, very fun. I'd love to see Facebook crack down on that. I'd love the ability to report anyone who puts a price that isn't the actual price, but that's probably the only area where I would like to see them innovate,

where it would be a meaningful change. And then at that point, it would be basically basically perfect for me I wouldn't need anything else. I know they're a sponsor but like they're not sponsoring this I think they're pretty much just doing computers and stuff. Java? But Java seems pretty good. Yeah they only do computer hardware though and that's a little limiting. Not everything that I buy and sell trade. Is computer hardware itself trade computer hardware is computer hardware But I like first covered was I had a genuinely good experience What's cool about Java is because it's so focused on computer hardware

You can have like filters and you can have you can have it's more like a shopping experience for used For used hardware. Yeah, and there is absolutely a place for stuff like that But when it comes to just random stuff, I need like scrap wood Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be hyper local to yeah exactly marketplace is the solution. Yeah for that. Yeah Valve no, I know the valve when I talk about that on on when show all the time valves like the most profitable tech company There is per employee. And it's not close. That stuff's annoying on sites like Zillow too. No, I don't want to see a listing

for a brand new home for zero dollars. Show me real results. Dude, house shopping is so archaic. It just sucks. As far as I can tell. It's terrible. As far as I can tell, the powers that be, have no interest in me.

Like it that way. Yep. They absolutely like it that way. I am fully convinced that's true. Because they want their commission and they want to be as necessary as possible No interest like it that way. Yep. They absolutely like it that way because They want their commission and they want to be as necessary as possible for as long as possible. Yeah, and I'm not like this is not like just some conspiracy theorist stuff like or anything like that. This is just looking at the money Following the money seeing where it goes and why, and going,

oh, okay, it is in literally, no one who's in a position of power has any motivation whatsoever. To make this better. To make this a smoother, easier experience for the buyer and seller. Because all that would do is make it so that they circumvent you.

Yes. That's it. So why do that? Because a lot of these sites, they do even have ways to circumvent you. Yes. That's it. So why do that? Yep. Because a lot of these sites, like they do even have ways to circumvent having a purchasing realtor. Yeah. Because there's ways to directly connect to the selling realtor. But, you know, yeah. Yeah, no, anyways, I didn't want to talk about skeezy realtors. I'll be right back. Sure. I'll talk about an amazing topic while you're gone. Pizza Hut's Pizza Warmer warms pizza with PS5 exhaust. Oh I don't want to miss that one. Fine fine do it without me. I can go to another one. Oh do it do it.

Yeah the Pizza Warmer is a 3d printable device oh So it's just a box that channels air. Okay. I mean that makes sense. It's a 3d printable device I don't know if you want to put your food on 3d printed 3d prints are food safe exactly one time Because the small pores trap bacteria, and you cannot clean them. Can you just put a plate in this thing? Maybe that would probably you want to heat up a thing that goes around food that is 3D printed? That should be... I mean we're already full of microplastics anyway. Shove more in there. Why not? Let's go! Or be able to extrude more out to make more pizza boxes.

I don't know. Generally, who knows? I want to see the microplastics. I want macroplastics in my system. Check. I'm not a doctor of pizza science. Anyways, while it's designed to keep pizza warm... Yeah, macroplastics. Yeah, thanks. ...using the PS5's exhaust heat, there are concerns about its ability to heat evenly. Additionally, placing a plastic device near a heat source raises safety concerns, and obstructing the console's airflow could cause overheating." The PS5 heating box does not heat very easily, 8 out of 10 on TechRadar. I always message this internally by a writer. A writer who is highly capable, in my opinion, of making a sick version of Pizza Heater version

2. And I, I, I, I, I'm sure I came across sarcastic and I was mostly, but I, I hope that they take up the banner. I've always wanted to like, we could do a collaborative version. I don't ironically go back and make one that's actually way overbuilt and super sick. Most of the people here could have that done in like 20, maybe 30 minutes. I don't even mean 3D printing though, like make it sick. No, I mean like do the design for a sick one. Yeah, we have so many.

And we have every single tool. Yeah. So like I think it would be wicked Yes, we were just like copper. You know what? We're gonna go back to this project. That was genuinely terrible And make it really good. I mean like there was the there was the car they did a car As I'm doing so many things I don't know it's such a weird marketing as far as I can tell if you like whisper project ideas near Sebastian things just happen. He's already texted me a couple times. It's got aluminum trays you're not like eating the pizza off of the the plastic. I

didn't realize it sits on top. When when I read this topic originally I was imagining that it was like a tube that kind of came out of the back of the PlayStation and then like Wrapped around into a box, but no it seems to sit on top. Maybe we should click on the link and show people Hold on. I know how to host a show sometimes. Wow the bare minimum Well, it does sit on top. What are you talking about? No, no, no, that's what it actually does I thought it was like a tube out the back, but I don't own a PS5 Is the exhaust on the side of the PS5? The PS5 has a giant fan hole in the side of it.

Yeah, okay. But dbrand made some plates to expose because they patented that or something. This is vaguely what I expected. Yeah, so it goes all the way around it. Well, that's fine. Yeah, it doesn't look like it heats very easily. Garbage product. Pulling inspiration from Pizza Hut's red roof.

The lid seamlessly opens like a laptop for easy pizza access. Those things don't line up. What Pizza Hut roofs easily, seamlessly open? I also keep my pizza in laptops. Designed to snugly affix to the top of your gaming console, they don't want to say PS4 or PS5, with a tray that fits several slices. It won't go anywhere and you won't have to either. Oh god. Channeling worth from the gaming consoles warm air

pipe straight to your pizza slices. Science and engineering for the greater good. Great pizza. Maybe this timeline is okay. I like this a lot. This is an alright part of it. This makes everything okay. I feel much more like secure as a person now. Can you approve a project for us doing- I don't have to be involved at all. I feel so validated by the PS5 warming thing, by the way. Not a stupid idea. Just bad execution. This was not called heater. I never. I never pitched a heater.

Okay. What do you want? I think people at the company should actually make one that's like sick. We should do it. We have abundance of talent in that realm at this point. We wouldn't take a lot of design time. I absolutely think we should do it. We should do it. It'd be sick. I'd be so down.

Yeah. We'd have to figure out whatever the most like efficient way of capturing the heat is. It should be like overly scientific. Yes. We have the analysis. We would do flow calculations. We could play around with the fan curves in the system to make sure that like our our target temperature is like me is as hot as possible So basically we we basically run we'd run it at idle or we'd run it fanless when it's at idle so that we could keep

So we could keep the actual temperature of the CPU as high as possible. Yeah Dude, I would be I would be super down. I think it's sick. I Think it's sick. You could probably even like work with Pizza Hut Like imagine getting Pizza Hut to sponsor it. You just make like the the PC version Yeah, you're into reaching out to brands and things now I'd be kind of sick actually like unironically be kind of sick to work with Pizza Hut on this do it I don't know. I certainly wouldn't work with pizza hut Why?

You know like a pizza. Do you I don't know when the last time I had it. I have no idea Yeah, I just think they have a funny red hat opens like a laptop Yeah Pizza hut is like not good pizza. Okay. I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter. Is there a certain point pizza chain that would have, you know, money to do sponsorship that does good pizza? I like Panago is Panago Canadian only though. I think so. Pretty sure it's Canadian company. Oh, okay. Well, let's see. At least it was when I worked there.

What just happened? I tried to load this site and it just... what just happened? Okay, I'm trying to go to... okay, contact us. Okay. Man, remember when companies used to have it about us and it like said where they were based and stuff? Yo, they're from Abbotsford. No way. What? The first three stores for Panago Pizza opened in Abbottsford in 1986. Abbottsford British Columbia. And operated under the brand Panagopolis

Two for One Pizza Place. I remember when it was called Panagopolis. Well apparently the actual name was Panagopolis Two for One Pizza Place and then it changed to Panagopolis Pizza Place. And then it later changed was Panagopolis 241 Pizza Place, and then it changed to Panagopolis Pizza Place. Huh. And then it later changed to Panagopolis, so you probably saw it then.

Yeah. And then it shortened to Panago. That's crazy. I didn't know about any of the previous names before Panago. I had no idea they were just a local company. Crazy, the headquarters is down the road from Seven Oaks Mall. Okay, well, there you go. So probably not Panago then, but... I mean, I don't think they are now. I think they're like nationwide now, but yeah, I don't think they're outside of Canada. All right, then they've always been pretty solid. I

Don't know. Maybe it doesn't matter. I don't think that pizza has to be something that I like personally endorse It's just literally a warm object to keep warm. So maybe I maybe I don't care that much Okay, so business team if you're watching this I'm open to working with whoever as far as the pizza goes. And it's not like I have to say, mm, finger lickin' good or whatever. Their pizza is good. Yeah, yeah, I think it's okay. You're saying their pizza is being kept warm.

Like it doesn't. Collaborate with Pizza Pizza. Their pizza can serve as both a construction material and content. Yeah, okay, you're talking- Is Pizza Pizza also Canadian? I've never had Pizza Pizza. It used to be called Little Caesars. Oh, what? Right. Really? No, I think it's a sub-separate brand, I think. I thought that- well that was their slogan, Little Caesars Pizza.

That was like their thing, Pizza Pizza. Wasn't it? Little Caesars was American though. I know, but we had it here. But Pizza Pizza is a Canadian brand. Oh it is? Yeah. Oh never mind. I know this. Apparently it's not the same thing. Pizza Pizza is East Coast. Wait, it's separate. They're different. Okay. I don't know Little Caesars used to have Pizza Pizza as their like jingle. You know I only know that Pizza Pizza is a Canadian brand because of Baby No Money. I was trying to figure out like how do I know this even though I've never been there? And that's why.

Brilliant. Yeah. All right, cool. Yeah, Pizza Pizza was just a slogan. Okay, well, shows you what I know. Speaking of things that I know, I gave bad advice for washing the backpack. In 2022, someone asked on the forum if the LTT backpack was washer safe. And Linus replied in the thread saying it's probably fine.

Anything with lots of little hanging pieces should be placed in a mesh bag before putting it in the washing machine. This is much for the safety of your washing machine as the garment. I don't think we officially advertise our bag as washing machine safe, but I'd be blown away if anything bad happened. If you run it on cold, do not put it in the dryer. Turns out... Hey, not sure if Nick has already messaged you about this, but can we please delete this comment from Linus ASAP? Context, customer followed this recommendation to disastrous results. You scroll down and there's the photo. Turns out it wasn't fine. It's weird to me that it only really seems to have happened in that one spot.

Like the rest of it looks fine. I don't know how that would have happened. Yeah, me neither. But anyway, we only recommend spot cleaning. Machine washing is not recommended. The bulkiness of the backpack is likely to lead to it being damaged in the spin cycle or something like that. So you can mix water with a small amount of laundry detergent, use that to dampen a washcloth

and wipe clean, then allow it to air dry by placing it upside down in a well ventilated space. I am blown away that something bad happened to it, but we did replace the backpack. So that's specific of an area and like, trust me, bro, I will give you good advice or I will replace your backpack. Yeah. Whoops. Pretty funny.

I wonder if what happened to that is the same thing that happened to one of my shoes, where you know how, you know how washers have those, like the arm things, panels to help mix up the clothing. Um, one of my shoes got stuck in between the sidewall and one of the, the, whatever you want to call them so like maybe the bag got like stuck in there or something I have no idea because that is weird and very oddly specific I'm not sure how that happened but anyways anyway trust me bro guaranteed of the rescue

apex legends overwatch and fortnight all launch classic modes as gamers play the same games over and over and over and over. A recent study found that while the console and PC games market grew by 2.6% in 2023, 90% of new game revenue belonged to just 43 titles, most of which were live service games. So if you were wondering why live service games are everywhere like a cancer, that's why. This is why. It's gamers fault. Five games accounted for 27% of all playtime. It's only gamers fault. Fortnite, Roblox, League of Legends, Minecraft, and GTA 5. 50% of time spent playing new games,

a maximum of two years old, was on sequels, like EA Sports FC, FIFA, they lost licensing deal, ha ha. Nick Ploof apparently worked on this one. NBA 2K and Call of Duty. Apex, Overwatch, and Fortnite all came out over five years ago and are still going strong. Apex sees about 18 million active players monthly. Overwatch 2 sees about 6.4 million daily.

Not on Steam, apparently everyone hates it there. Fortnite sees about 3 million daily. I have a really hard time believing... Overwatch 2 is bigger than Fortnite? By over double? Yeah, I have a really hard time believing. These all have citations. Fortnite.gg. That's a 24-hour peak, like just in the last 24 hours. So I'm sure they've had,

yeah, they've definitely had bigger peaks. The point is just millions of players playing these old games. Remasters and remakes, also incredibly popular. Warcraft 3 Reforged was recently updated. Actually, I'm really excited about this one. Warcraft 3 Reforged got a 2.0. You can toggle between the old and new graphics, and it apparently like tries to fix a bunch of the issues. And this was released alongside Remastered Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2. I kind of want to buy it. It's like 40 bucks. I don't know if I really want to give Blizzard Activision money, but I really want it. I tried to dig out my old Warcraft 3 disc and I like I still have my key, but I Lost my disc and I but I have it in I have it in a like a file

Type that no I no longer have any way to like mount to anything. I'm just like Demon tools demon tools anyway Diablo 2 resurrected GTAogy was recently updated to fix a lot of issues. Multiple years later, Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered, why? Nick Ploof. Resident Evil 1, 2, 3, and 4. That one is weird. Final Fantasy VII Remake, don't forget about the pixel remasters of the earlier Final Fantasy games that Luke is never gonna get around to playing. He will. Anyway, the point is, it's a very long list.

Recent video game remakes and remasters. Da da da da da da da da da. What is, basically our discussion question is... There are plenty of games that need a remaster. Horizon Zero Dawn was not one of them. What is the deal with this? Gamers suck. Okay, another reason.

New AAA games are expensive, while free to play games are free. A lot of these games are free to play. Not all of them are. But it's free to play a game you already bought like Minecraft, for example. My issue isn't at all with the play time. My issue, I think, is with the revenue being so concentrated on live service. Ninety percent of new game revenue were forty three titles, most of which were live service games. That's the part that stands out to me.

If you're still playing a live service game five years later, are you really playing the same game, though? I mean, the fact that they had to release classic modes at all sort of suggests that or acknowledges that I kind of do agree with that. That the game has changed enough and that's their whole

model right is to keep taking that money that they're making and putting it into new content that keeps people engaged now that can obviously manifest in sort of really negative manipulative ways but on paper the idea is not that crazy. It's almost like episodic gaming, but more money and more effective, I guess. Yeah, and to be clear, like, you know, if you play some free game a ton, spending an amount of money on that game that you think is comparatively worth the time

that you spent on it in order to reward the dev, I don't think it's necessarily bad But I also know people personally that like back in 2015 had spent over two grand on League of Legends. It's just like bro Avon Fox relax makes a really good point here Intellectual lock-in once you've put that much time into getting good leaving the game feels like I think that like waste of time And it's not fun to suck. I think that's part of it, and I think I think it's not fun to suck and people are so sweaty these days

like wow I like Genuinely spending your evening Just sitting in an aim trainer all night is not a thing that anyone would have done when we were growing up and if you did people would have shamed you like there were custom maps and stuff for things like Counter-Strike or whatever but that was abnormal that was something that like people who want to go pro do or something that was not something that average gamers would do most the custom

maps for Counter-Strike were like Warcraft 3 mod so you'd get like lightning bolts that go along with your m4 shots and stuff like it was I don't know is a totally different no I mean they were like aim-oriented I know I'm saying like now a lot of them are like that back then they were weird little fun games like that's not I don't know man that's not fun to me. That's like another job. Yeah, I tried it once and was like, mm-hmm, I'll just be worse I guess. Okay, crazy, crazy side, side tangent or not tangent, but a bit of a reach here.

Sure. Are we attaching more importance to our accomplishment and our hobbies because we're feeling less fulfilled by our work. Are we looking for fulfillment somewhere? That sounds so likely that it's frustrating. I can't, I probably couldn't prove this. I think that's right though. I mean, there's been so much commentary

about how there's no real progression. You can't, not only is there no real progression in your work, you're not going to be able to progress financially in your personal life. You can't afford to buy a home, for example. You can't afford to buy or really own anything. So is this like people who dress up their dogs and stuff because they can't afford kids? It's something to be able to measure. It's something to be able to grow and be good at. Achieve. It's an achievement yeah maybe definitely maybe I know like there's this

there's the whole male pattern anxiety thing I don't know enough about this I might say something wrong go figure it out yourself go watch a different podcast if you want to hear knowledgeable people yeah yeah the land show is the land show it's always gonna be WAN show. We talk about ramming. That we know about. The whole male pattern anxiety thing is that, and again, please go look this up, don't take me at my word, but average male anxiety and average female anxiety are different things. Obviously there's crossover, whatever, blah blah blah. female anxiety are different things. Obviously, there's crossover, whatever, blah, blah, blah. But a lot of men tend to get anxiety spikes because of not being able to enact positive

change. If they feel like they can't improve their environment, if they can't improve their work, if they don't have agency to to try to drive things forward. Rob Dogg here says, what am I actually even achieving in my 40-hour work week? My hobbies, I do much better. Yeah, and that's a huge problem for a lot of people. They have, I don't know what they're called, like ghost jobs or whatever. That's like a very real thing. I don't know, it sounds pretty likely. Sounds pretty likely to me. Especially with how seriously people approach it. Because that's the biggest change that I've noticed. It's like you could try to be good, but you were playing a game. Now it's you're trying

to be good and it's like life or death. Like I was lucky. You know, I happened. It's not like I planned to work at a company where progression was possible. Like I got a little lucky. I worked hard, I earned my promotions, obviously. But what I was lucky in being able to do was having the opportunity to earn a promotion. That's not always possible.

Whether you have an obstructionist boss or whether you just have a corporate structure or a union structure that rewards time, you know, rather than just be nowhere up to go. Yeah, yeah. Or you're or you're in a company. So you can be in a company that's either too big or too small to properly recognize, you know, the exceptional work you're doing. There can be a thousand reasons why career progression is not is not a thing. But and so I don't I don't relate to this, but I can understand it, if that makes sense. Like, what would I have spent my energy on if every day I clocked in, did the same damn thing, and clocked out? in, did the same damn thing and clocked out.

I'd want to achieve something. I'd want to feel like I had power over something. But like for me, my job is what gives me fulfillment, but I also have the privilege of having a job that can give me fulfillment. And I do think- And I think that is a notable, not necessarily very common privilege at this point. No, I see that.

And I do think that there's a push and a pull. I do think that part of it is a structural problem. And I do think that part of it is an attitude problem. I think that there are, it's a spectrum. There's gonna be cases where it's a hundred percent on the structure of this organization. I know people in my personal life that I've talked to you about their work life and They'll complain about how they they can't progress and then they'll also talk to me about

The stuff that they do at work and I'm like and there are situations where it's a hundred percent because you're phoning it in But I think as is almost always the, the truth probably lies somewhere in between. Yep. For most people. But yeah, it's just, it's made gaming kind of not fun for me, to be honest with you, because I don't have time to be sweaty and I don't have the wherewithal to be sweaty. It's also, I mean, we've talked about this extensively on WAN Show, but the cheating Because I don't have time to be sweaty and I don't have the wherewithal to be sweaty It's also I mean we've talked about this extensively on Wanshow, but the cheating problem is crazy now Shroud was fairly recently quoted saying that he thinks in random pickup games on counter strikes in

counter strike The chance that you have a cheater in your lobby is essentially 100% Really we know that effectively to be true with Tarakov. Yeah. Like if you're playing a shooter game, you're going to have cheaters all over the place. It's like cheater be cheated essentially at that point then. Like it gets- Which is sad. Pretty brutal. That's like, that's a completely sad state of affairs. I used to love playing online shooters and like, you always knew that was a problem. That had been a problem since when we were kids, but it was, I always knew that was a problem. That had been a problem since when we were kids,

but it was, I don't think I was just naive to it. I think it was way more blatant. You were either very obviously cheating or you weren't. And now it's like, a lot of the cheats are a lot more subtle. It's like, okay, you- Better situational awareness. Yeah.

You can't, you can't catch that on a kill cam. And people are like kind of trained on trying to hide it now. Like it's it's and and the barrier of entry doesn't exist. Yeah I don't even remember the last time a major streamer got caught cheating. Oh there's. Which given how many of them got caught cheating in the old days or maybe it just doesn't make headlines anymore. Yeah okay seriously there's there's a YouTuber that has a series that has very many episodes in it that is just streamers getting caught cheating. Yeah. Sad. It's rough. Well, I think it's time for... Darn Clara, dude. How is it that Dan

leaves for like 30 seconds every time we actually need him today? Yeah. Okay, well, why don't we kill time while we wait for when After Dark people are talking about Netflix being like bad. Is there any other topic we need to go over? No, I don't think so. The onion one? Nah, I'm over it.

I just thought it was funny. But it's apparently sort of unresolved now, so got it. We'll let that kind of sort itself out. Yeah How are you guys doing How are you doing? I'm all right ankles, how long do you think it'll be uh, I sprained my ankle at this doofus's party. I blame you. I blame you. Fair enough. Basically what happened was I used to play paintball all the time and I- It's crushed a bit of an itch for me.

Yeah it was fun. I- well sorry it was complicated. I made a concerted effort to have fun. It had... I... Go ahead. Public paintball fields. I've always had a problem. This one had more than I've had before. In one game, I, not even speaking for Linus, who had a worse experience than I did,

I had to replace my... You call them markers. I had to replace my gun, my the markers. I had to replace my my gun my marker three separate times in one game That's a little bit of a lot Yeah, especially for how long I was waiting for I had to replace my marker five times across two two matches And I didn't even and I could have replaced it more times for the issues that I was having just like sputtering Oh, yeah

I mean I had that constantly I didn't have a single gun that actually worked properly But you know the worst that I you would usually have was like every third trigger pull it would actually shoot and then it's like Okay, I'll just shoot more in the first round the likes there are the second round of the speedball map. Yes Um, I like coordinated with my team. I was like, okay, you and me are gonna go this way hard We're gonna like draw their fire and we're basically just gonna like lay down cover. I saw you guys are gonna go this way My marker didn't fire one ball. If this might this might pat you on the back too much But I saw that movement happen and I knew it was you Because like we've played a lot of yeah, we've played paintball together before but we've also played a lot of video games

So I know the type of like strategizing that linus will do and I saw like one person hang back at a barrel Which I guess was you and I saw I think three or four different people like launch up one side all the exact same side I'm like, that's not normal human movement. That was a plan. I'm pretty sure I know who did that So the problem is that because I was shooting blanks, you know, in more ways than one, there was no reason for anybody to duck because there was no actual paint landing anywhere near them. On that map, yeah. So they just lit me up.

We did start noticing on other maps that even if your gun... the fact that when you get to this level of strategizing, you know, it's kind of bad but we noticed that even even if your gun stopped functioning it would still make the noise and you'd get the like puff of like kind of smoky so people would fake yeah people would fake and I ran out of work when I was on that first map people figured out that I wasn't firing anything I like my first map it was I would have lit up like between four and six people. I think- Like I was, they were wide open

because everyone was looking at my guys that were running up the other side. It was just stacked oil barrels. So on the first map, people were ducking away more from the sound of the paint balls hitting the empty drums. On the future maps, that wasn't a thing. Yes. So it was more effective later on.

Yeah. But, but I would have been able to keep everyone's head down and I would have been able to hit like half a dozen people but because I wasn't firing a single shot instead everyone's like and let's all these like pubs at the field are like Pretty bad and I got up dude I got I got Obliterated I got team killed on that map because I was so far up on one of the sides trying to get far enough up that I could shoot you guys

broadside basically. And I was on the side of the barrels because that was actually more defensive than being behind them now. So I was on the side of the barrel and I saw one of you, but I had to get back around to get an angle. So I come back around and my chest is facing back at us and just square right in the middle. Nice. And I was like, they were literally at the first barrel next to the spawn, never moved ever. I had one opportunity to shoot someone the whole game and it was me.

Nice. Okay. So anyway, back to the story. I used to play all the time, and I would just play in whatever, like, ratty shoes I didn't care about destroying. So I never had any traction. Specifically, the organizer of this party, bless her, by the way, put in the thing, hey, make sure you wear hiking boots, do this, do that. And I was like, oh yeah, I always like, I never take my hiking boots for paintball. That obviously makes sense. I should just put on my hiking boots. So I brought them. Anyway, on the second

map, I was like trying to do a push. I was trying to grab a couple of the noobs that had barely fired a shot because they just hung around at the spawn. And I'll talk about why that is especially stupid at this place and a little bit. But they just hung around at the spawn. And I was like, okay, come on, let's go, let's push. Okay, you guys are with me. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. And so I was like, okay, come on, let's go. Let's push Okay, you guys are with me. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go Let's go and so I was like trying to get up ahead of them so that I could kind of cover them to get into a position that Would be moderately useful and I went sliding into cover

Except I was wearing hiking boots instead of just garbage shoes Sudden traction. Yeah, so man, I immediately knew that I was very hurt. So that's why Dbrand has all those videos of me hobbling around their facility with a cane. Because I, at that point, thought it was probably a grade 2 sprain. I think now it's just a really bad grade 1. I was on the badminton court last night, so this is about a week later, and I would describe my strength as about 30% and my range of motion as a hundred percent with only a little bit of pain,

but if I try to actually put any load on it it's probably like a four out of ten. Like it's still pretty painful. I have a tournament coming up so I'm super especially not stoked because I was wanting to be like training a few times a week and like get getting some last minute you know feeling and now I'm just upset pretty much. Anyway let's talk about why this field is trash and I'll be naming names because I'm actually super mad. Yeah why not let's do it. Boom get roasted. Some some of the ways in which Delta Force paintball in Maple Ridge is trash are subjective so it's here hold on let's let's get let's get the right location here. Delta Force in Canada, hold on.

What is this Calgary, okay, here we go. The website is maplereachpaintball.ca. Here we go. Okay, so some of the reasons that this location is garbage are subjective. For example, it's a 50 cal field, which basically means that the paintballs are smaller. For the uninitiated, that's gonna sound big

because of rifle rounds. Yeah, but standard paintballs are 68 cal, so quite a bit larger. Now, the benefit of 50 cal is that it's friendlier for like children and people Who are p***ies? So that's good. It makes it a little bit easier to go do your like stag or corporate event or whatever else there But it comes with some very objective problems So one of them is that because they have less mass They don't carry in a straight line for as long.

Yeah. Wow, they were inaccurate. Well, there's multiple issues there. So okay, sure. Let's talk about the inaccuracy. So they're inaccurate. And here are the other contributing factors to the inaccuracy. I don't know how good the regulators are, but none of our air tanks were full.

So they were kind of like, they were full-ish. The barrels are garbage on those rental markers, which is pretty typical, but they were garbage rental marker barrels. And then number three is, as far as I could tell, looking at their prep area, their process for like, for maintenance and cleaning was to like hose things down essentially Then like they'd use a dirty barrel squeegee and be like, okay, you're good to go They actually got mad at me for taking my barrel off being like this is wet. They're like, no, it's not I'm like bro Quite bro. It's it's wet. There's absolutely no possibility whatsoever of a paintball coming out of this going in a straight line

It's got in trouble Yeah, anyway, sniffed out was like don't do the burrow So so so they're inaccurate Problem number two is that they because they have less momentum inertia kinetic energy Let's go with that because they're carrying less kinetic energy But they have the same thickness of shell kinetic energy, but they have the same thickness of shell with less overall weight and a higher shell to goo ratio. They're far less likely to break when they hit you.

So in many cases they can actually end up hurting more. One of the maps, the actually the most fun map that we had, I didn't really like the game modes that we did. It felt designed to- Well, I can get into that. Expend your paintballs. But anyways, one of the maps was a, they call it capture the flag, but it's really raise the flag. So you had to pull on a rope and raise a flag. And

one of the ladies that wasn't in our group ran up to the flag and started pulling it up. My brother just shot a million times and she was like reacting to all the shots, but the paintballs weren't breaking. And the field rules were if the paintball doesn't break you're not out so she got a shot a ton of times and it probably hurt quite a bit but we like won the round because the paintballs didn't break. My brother was just like what? Anyways. For context they were on different teams. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that's that's issue number two with 50 Cal. Issue number three is kind of tied into what Luke just said where the game modes appeared to be designed to make you expend as much paint as possible. So they did like constant respawning over longer rounds.

They... respawning over longer rounds. Part of this is just new player behavior, so I can't really blame the field for it, but they have you so far away with this paint that is inaccurate and doesn't break that you, because you're a novice player and you don't understand you have to get closer to actually get a kill. It was also difficult because I find the 50 cal, it was really hard to tell on the first map, the speedball map, you could kind of tell if you were hitting because you could hear it hit the drums, but it's so hard to see. Like normal paintball, whatever. It makes a big mark. Normal to me paintball, you can see a big mark. 68 cal is normal. I can also often see the projectile, I feel like. Like I can tell if I'm firing properly. With the.50 cal, I couldn't tell if I was hitting or not.

So I had to kind of like shoot at someone for a little while, then be like, no, okay, I think they're out of range and then move closer. So the problem number three is that you can fit so many paintballs into your hopper that it's easy to just like use everything without really thinking about it. But that's as much a player issue as it is anything else my my let's call this my real number three Is that because 50 cal is a bullsh** standard that nobody uses except crappy Fields for like crappy rental markers. There's a handful of conversion kits that I'm aware of but for the most part There's a handful of conversion kits that I'm aware of, but for the most part, none of the custom decent equipment.

And I don't even mean high-end stuff. Like I never had a high-end marker. I have an A5. It's just like a beater, huck it into the back of the car, drop it in the mud and pull it out, wipe it down and keep going marker. Tipman? Yeah, Tipman A5. No decent marker is available in 50 cal.

No decent barrels are available in 50 cal. So I do understand why fields want to disincentivize these like gravy seals from showing up at the field with their fully auto. That can be very annoying. Their fully auto markers, their crew of everybody in camo head to toe with a case of paint each and just like light everybody up. That's not fun for new players. It kind of destroys the balance of the game.

I 100% get that. But the flip side is I can't even use anything that fires reliably because like I had my a5 in my trunk it literally can't even use it because of their garbage field and their garbage 50 cal markers. So those are my issues with 50 cal. My issues with the field are many. They do have pricing on their website. You can see if you go into pricing, you can, hold on, hello? There's probably a lot of people on it right now.

Yeah, so there's, okay, hold on a minute. So we've got packages, so you can have a look at adult paintball prices, so you can see. Here's your 1999 admission, includes four to five action-packed games, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, packages on the day. Oh, you can get the Recruit Pack, Commando Pack, Black Ops Pack, shows you all the things. You get gloves, a green guard, blah blah blah, gets all

this stuff. Sorry, what? A half case for a hundred and sixty Canadian dollars? They don't. They warn you, they tell you on the day. Remember, I was with a group and a lot of people will be. I mean, yeah. So I was there with a group. So they tell you on the day. Believe it happened? I didn't hear it.

The paint is, it costs more after your first round. So you got to buy your package ahead of time. But what they don't tell you is that everyone in your group has to buy the same package. So if not everybody wants a black ops pack with a thousand paintballs, um, TS basically. And 500 rounds sounds like a ton until your guns are incredibly inaccurate. For the basic recruit pack. Yeah. Until your guns are incredibly inaccurate and they have no range. So you're like test firing 80% of your rounds and your guns are incredibly inconsistent.

Not 80%, but a lot. and your guns are incredibly inconsistent. Not 80%, but a lot. And your guns are incredibly inconsistent. So you can't actually tell if they're even working or not half the time. So you end up over firing a ton. And I'm gonna get to the very worst part. So the paint is ludicrously expensive, which again, I actually do understand the argument

that I've heard for expensive paint at friendlier fields is that if you have those guys with their fully auto markers showing up and essentially playing speedball with fish in a barrel, you're basically trying, and it makes those speed baller guys avoid those fields, which is a more noob-friendly environment, or a more intermediate-friendly environment. So different fields are tailored to different groups, and there will be days at some of the good fields, I doubt Delta Force does this, but there will be days at some of the good fields where it'll be like a bring-your-own-gun-only day,

and the paint's paints cheaper for example So I so I'm on board with that but a hundred sixty dollars plus tax So the total charge to my credit card was one hundred and eighty dollars for a thousand rounds is Utterly Ludicrous it's crazy pricing, ludicrous. They couldn't even give me a full case for that. They gave me half a case. And like, there's a bunch of stuff that comes with it.

If you buy ahead of time and if you buy it after the fact, you just get the paint and then you go, holy crap, that's expensive. And then they throw in like a couple of little random little extra things. Like here is for here's for context here's a 2000 count case of Marbleizer from Empire which I don't know if this is premium paint it probably isn't but I recognize the brand I haven't really played in a long time so whatever the point is $65 so the markup on their cheap-ass 50 cal, remember less paint even, the markup on their cheap-ass 50 cal compared to

Badlands is, what's the math on this? So it'd be like $32.50 for a thousand at Badlands. So they're essentially charging me what does that work out to like five times the price? Ridiculous. And I haven't even told you guys the worst part. They don't count headshots. That is beyond a shadow of a doubt designed to make it so that you just are plink plink plink wasting paint at each other because marker shots count but headshots and they didn't even mention that I had to ask yeah yeah headshots do not count 75% of the exposed opponent is their head. All you see is a hopper, a barrel, which you're not hitting with these useless markers. Yeah, definitely not.

And their head. Yep. So, pretty much... Also the safety... Never go there. The safety presentation... Sales pitch. I don't remember anything that was about safety.

Sales pitch. Other than headshots don't count. And then, and I don't think I'm exaggerating this time, 80% of it was a sales pitch or more. Crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. That being said. And I was also.

Due to no positives of the field itself, I had a pretty great time. Yeah. Yeah, I had fun. Just because paintball is just fun. Running around in a field With an objective is fun. I got pretty mad about the number of times that my marker didn't work Yeah, and I had just bought a case of paint for the group. So I just spent like almost two hundred dollars And I sat out for probably a third of that round

Actually, probably more just like waiting around for like a replacement mark. Because so many people were getting replacements. So I walked off, I was basically like, look, I think that I should get a partial refund with all due respect. This is- You couldn't even play. You only get three rounds, you can't play.

This is ridiculous. I've had to replace my marker five times over one and a half rounds at this point. Because I walked off during the middle of the second round, I was like, this is ridiculous. And also I had hurt my ankle. So I was like, yeah, I think I should get a partial refund, like I'm done.

And it wasn't even my money for the refund, like it would have gone to the organizer who, bless her, did an amazing job of putting together an extremely special party for Luke, which was really cool. Genuinely really freaking cool. Yeah, so anyway, and they were basically just like, no. We're not interested. They blamed it on the weather.

After buying the expensive case. And I have played plenty in adverse weather conditions. If your markers are maintained properly and not complete garbage in the first place, they will operate just fine on a misty day like we had. Like yeah, if you don't clean or dry anything, yeah, obviously like, you know, balls are gonna curve or whatever else, but the way the guns were not firing at all, or they were sputtering and you'd cock them back and there's just like So much paint casing just like caked into these things that you can't even you can't even properly pull the bolt all the way

Back or it'll go all the way back and it'll get wedged there and stuff. Like it's just poor maintenance Don't fucking tell me that it's because it's misting and also if it's misting in Vancouver, that's a pretty normal condition So you should probably account for it so yeah I left them an absolutely scathing review on Google Maps and you Delta Force paintball there's also I don't know if you were there when we figure this out but a bunch of the

Google reviews talk about how they incentivize leaving five-star reviews yeah they have no like access to pay water on site. They don't have running water and they'll give you bottled water if you leave a five star review right in front of them. Yeah. So some of the negative reviews point that out. They're like don't believe the five star reviews. They tried to get us to give them a positive review by like essentially bribing us with free water. Yeah, because like I've I haven't gone paintballing very much but I've gone some amount of times

probably half the amount of times I've gone have been with Linus but I haven't had a field experience that bad before so I was stunned when I saw the rating was so high and then somebody in the group found that they had yeah there was a bunch of a bunch of the low rating reviews were like I saw someone leaving a five-star review because of getting a free bottle of water or or whatever else which is like ridiculous because it's effectively a paid review at that point yeah anyways apparently the fight starting so should we just give up on retaining people on WAN Show at this point?

Probably. 8.30. Yeah, I gotta go to your place. Oh yeah, right. Okay, Dan, do you have any merch messages for us to kind of blow through here? Yeah, sure. Let me do the after dark while you get in position there. Greetings, DLL, waiting for Cargo Pants to come back in 32.

I was wondering why LTD on the YouTube mobile app has picture-in-picture without a premium membership Can't do this on any other YouTube channel Apparently it was like a pilot program that they applied to our channel or something. That's what I that's what I saw on reddit I don't actually know anything about this. I don't remember anything So there you go, by the way, I got you something. Me? Yeah. Your sweater?

What is this? Oh my God, this is horrible, I suck. Oh, nice. Nice. These Coffeezilla shirts arrived a thousand years ago. And they've just been sitting on the set. I keep forgetting to bring them out.

So this was from the speaking of the Paul brothers. This is funding Coffeezilla's legal battle with which Paul is he fighting with? I think it's Logan Paul. Coffeezilla? Yeah, Legal battle with which which Paul is he fighting with I? Think it's Logan Paul

Yeah, Logan Paul. Yeah, it's Logan Paul. So the the one that isn't fighting Mike Tyson, so There you go, and it says I Used to like coffeezilla Until he investigated me which I thought was pretty funny because he actually did upload an investigation of me at one point, but I still like him. I went to Micro Center recently and I noticed the OLED monitors looked much worse than the OLED TVs I see on display at Costco. Is this a Windows issue or OLED panels just that different? It's probably a Windows HDR issue. OLED monitors should look pretty good. probably a Windows HDR issue. OLED monitors should look pretty good.

Might have been a content issue as well. Not everyone setting up a retail display knows what the crap they're doing. Longtime listener, first time merch messenger. I don't think we're calling them out anymore, but okay. How has your experience been maintaining both a forum versus a Discord server? What led to the creation of the LTT Discord?

We don't really maintain the discord server to my knowledge I prefer forums I never really go on the discord but I still use the forum I've been on the discord a couple times I think I just kind of moves too fast for me there's old there's the floatplane chat on the discord so I lurkk that. But I'm traditionally a lurker, like OCN back in the day, NCX forums back in the day, all that kind of stuff. I didn't really post much. Just kind of hung around. Long time listener, first time c***er. Love it. Thanks, float plane chat. Love it.

Thanks for playing chat. There are one of the chats of all time. Hey, the genius bird whisperer and Linus, get a butter up the curator. And well it worked. No, I hate that. To Linus genius bird whisperer, do you really just reheat your family's Friday night dinner when Wann goes really long?

I mean Friday I'm never there for dinner so realistically that's one of the nights that they have something I don't like so I'll just like have breakfast cereal for dinner. I'll make like a I'll make like a tray of like cheese triscuits. I have food prep so I go to the fridge and go into microwave three minutes eat. Cottage cheese. I think I'd rather die they eat cottage cheese cottage cheese chicken it actually has the consistency of vomit and I can't I can't abide it what's the name of bok choy cottage cheese chicken

rice Frank's red terrible add the Frank's Red. Good. Huh. Interesting. Hi LL and Dan. It's the day of my cousin's wedding and I got a cold just to mess with my day. What's the most inconvenient time you've gotten sick at the wedding reception right now? It's a hoot. Inconvenient. The most recent scrapyard war. Oh yeah, that was super inconvenient. That's not inconvenient time I've gotten sick, uh What's nice sick at LTX once

I'm not sure. I don't remember. I just I don't have time to be sick. So it's Like I usually just work through it I did take a sick day this week, but that's pretty- It's like one. That is pretty unusual for me. Wait, wasn't it Monday? Does that even count if it was Monday? Yeah, Monday's my work from home day, but I was supposed to be in office this Monday, I think.

No, no, I was at Dbrand this Monday. I was in Toronto this Monday, and I was still not feeling 100%, but I just, yeah. No, it was last Friday, but I just Yeah, like yes No, it was for last Friday, and I just still came in for Wancho. Oh, yeah, I think that was it Or maybe it was Thursday. I don't know the point is Inconvenient sickness There's some really funny videos I think there's like an ASUS monitor video from years and years ago where like my voice is like super low like frog croaky

I missed a shoot on Thursday. That's what that's what it was last week I missed a shoot on Thursday because I was sick and we've actually got a clip of me calling in sick Yvonne's got her phone next to me. My voice is hilarious Like it's one of those situations where when you call in sick You call and you say hello, and your boss is like, oh, you're sick. See you in a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like I sounded horrible. It was a different era. You know, pre-COVID was actually a very different time. It's hard to reframe and remember what things were like. So I'm just prefacing it with that. But at one of the packs East, I was sick. And I didn't know about, know syrup at that time and I don't think you know I had enough to do anything like that but I had a buckley's

oh boy and oh candy little sugar candy o-ring looking things and before every major take I would take some Buckleys and an o-ring and then I just go for it and I was just one-shotting every single video so every major take was essentially a whole video and then we would we would go to the next one and then like I couldn't talk and then I would take some some Buckleys and eat the gummy so that I could get rid of the like cringe basically. And then just send it into another video. I thought you were just slamming lean. We did basically. Yeah. I don't think it was enough to like actually do anything.

Wow. Cause I was just thinking like little bits. I don't think it was enough. Um, years later I heard about that and was like, huh. That's just what you did. I know, I wonder if that affected me. Again, I don't think it was actually enough to really do anything. You need very specific brands of coding sort of.

But you like- I don't know anything about this, shut up. You couldn't understand me talking and I had to host videos and there wasn't really another solution. I wasn't know anything about this, shut up. You couldn't understand me talking and I had to host videos and there wasn't really another solution. I wasn't gonna not host the videos. So it was like, okay, we're just doing it. I'm trying to think what's like a crazy thing

I've missed because of being sick, but nothing comes to mind. I also just have a mind like a sieve, so who knows, for certain things. Hey everyone, my company is currently running an insane cost savings program and cut our Microsoft Office licenses to browser use only. What are your thoughts on cost savings

that result in unproductivity? Well, they don't really cost savings then, are they? Yeah, you're shifting expenses. I mean, it is a big decrease in cost, but it's a big decrease in cost of like 10 bucks a person so yeah and it so it depends on like what you're doing it also depend like not to call you out in certain cases it could be a user issue or like the browser thing might be fine now if you're doing advanced stuff with

Excel that is not true. The local version just is better. So I don't know, for you, maybe it is actually nerfing you. But I think sometimes people just hate change and there's a significantly cheaper way to do certain things. And sometimes you just got to kind of catch up. I think both can be true. Yeah, I can also understand like if an employer is better to cut office than

to cut exactly if they're having a really hard time making ends meet for a while and they're like, well, then you might want to be pretty supportive of the cost saving measures that are that don't involve people. Yeah. So, try to make it work. That's all I can really say. Hi DLL, I just built an MFF PC with a BTF motherboard. There are very few cases and even fewer motherboards that support this standard. What do you all think about the BTF standard? Is it a dead tech? I hope it's not dead. I think it's kind of cool. It seems to be more of a thing in China than it is in North America, but I guess the only time we'll tell. The good news is that if you buy a case, most of the ones that I've seen that

are back-to-front compatible with the rear connectors, like on the back side, are also compatible with regular boards. So you can build a BTF system now, and then you can just put a regular motherboard in your case if it doesn't end up being a thing. So it's something that doesn't really cost anything to buy into, other than just that it limits your case selection. I think it's cool though. Sorry, what's up with all these one-time drops recently, like the dip-dye hoodie not having restocks? Also any plans to do classic t-shirts again? I don't know, I think we struggle sometimes,

especially with apparel, to turn one-time buys into run rate business. And I think part of the problem has been that our skew mix got too broad for a while there Part of the problem is that we still have a lot to learn about marketing that isn't just Leveraging our social channels and our YouTube channels But the reality of it is those items that we sell through and then don't restock we don't restock because they Just don't have the demand to sustain another order

at the large minimum order quantities. I think people underestimate how many of something you have to order when you're not just like paying slave wages to some poor Temu slub to effectively like carbon copy one-offs, you know? like we can't just make 30 of something. We we have to make 3,000 of something. So if if it takes us five months to move through them, we're not gonna reorder them. Hi, LLD. I think I remember Luke mentioning the possibility of a Creator Warehouse gym bag. Any updates on whether this is still in progress? He said he wanted one.

We are not working on that right now. Why not? Because we can only do so many things, Dan. It's fine, it's fine. Hey, LLD, as long as you spend all your time working on tall shirts. Hey, LLD, my work did a team building exercise and got me thinking. What's the most surprising thing you've learned about yourself since starting LTT and how has it impacted your choices from,

for the brand? We're approaching, we're not that far away. It's not that close, but we're not that far away from this being half of our lives. So almost everything. Yeah, I mean, most of my adult life is Linus Media Group now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's kind of crazy to think about it that way, but it's totally true.

More than half of my life is Yvonne era, and more than half of my adult life is LMG era. So... You had a career level job before this. I didn't even, this is my first career level job. This is technically my first job out of post-secondary. I think it's kind of cool that we think of it as a career level job now. You know, that wasn't how we felt about it in the early days. That is very true. how we felt about it in the early days. That is very true. That's an achievement unlocked, I suppose. Yeah. What did we what did we learn about ourselves?

I had to I had a lot of growing up to do. Me too. That was that was a big thing for me. I had to kind of like tear down a version of myself in short or rebuild. Yeah. Because I was like certain ways that I'm like reacting to things, certain ways that I'm dealing with certain problems are just like not cool. Like I need to fix this. And that was not the easiest thing in the world, but I think I more or less did it. And that was largely driven by work

To be honest, I've definitely made observations, but I don't know how many of them I didn't know because yeah to Luke's point I had a job before like I even had like a somewhat of a leadership position before I've definitely had a lot of things confirmed. I have I don't suffer fools. Well, I Can be a bit of a control freak those two things are Pretty both of those though. Mm-hmm. That wasn't a learning a lot of the reason that we started LMG I Didn't want to work for someone who wasn't you a mentor and

Didn't I believe have the capacity to be a mentor? Someone said you've previously previously shared that you get hype about big challenges. Yeah, but I already knew that yeah Yeah, he definitely knew that like a lot of core parts of who I am already already knew like I would like to think that by the time you hit your 20s you kind of know who you are as a person. I've in some ways learned to be way more patient and keep my cards closer to my chest. Yes. But in other ways I've completely lost my patience because I've just seen everything so many times. Like, like I can in ways that only business owners can understand. I have seen, I've seen so many train wrecks that the second the locomotive goes on the rails, I know what's going to happen and it can be very frustrating for me to watch everybody else go,

let's see how it plays out. You know, and pain is nature's teacher, right? So, I've learned these lessons through pain and I understand that the only way other people can properly learn them is through pain. But it can be exhausting to not have people just listen. But it doesn't work that way. People have to learn for themselves. And what's frustrating- It's literally a management tactic where you have to kind of pick your battles there. Where if you think, okay, I am 99% sure this is going to fail, they really want to try it. I don't think the impact on this is going to be super big. Okay.

And what's really frustrating though is like as a business owner, right, is that their fail pain is not real. It's just like, oh, I am morale sad. It didn't hit their wallet You know, they take home the same pay that day in a lot of cases There's also the equal and opposite of that though is when they have huge successes it also doesn't hit their wall Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's that's the dynamic, right? That's why that's why a lot of people decide to take the paycheck and why fewer people decide to take the entrepreneurial path

insulated from the ups and downs. Yep. Not entirely. Yeah. But day to day. Yeah. In a big way. Next.

Sure thing. Hey, DLL. You all got me buying hoodies every week. Let's go. The phone pocket is so nice. Who at LTDT came up with it? And what other neat features have you creators come up with? And their dishwasher is still broken, apparently.

Oh, you should probably spend money on your dishwasher instead of an $80 hoodie, but. How are they gonna wash it? A $60 hoodie and a $20 t-shirt, sorry, sorry. I don't remember Hmm Nick would probably remember but there is absolutely No way that he is doing anything other than watching the fight right now and he does not want to talk to me right now That's true. So

It's true. I don't know. It was Linus. We're gonna say I think I think it might have been me But I'm not 100% sure. Did it come from, did the original land hoodie have it? Were we inspired from that? No? Okay, I don't know. I could be wrong. I'm not sure. I could be wrong. You know what? I don't remember. It might have been me, it might have been Nick, it might have been Lloyd, it might have been just something we saw somewhere. I'm not sure. Howdy, DLL, faithful VOD listener here. I'm repainting my room soon and I'd like to know how you do edges. You said before that tape just slows you down. I'm curious how a master like you does it. I'm not a master. I'm just, I have a reasonably steady hand and an ounce of common

sense. That's painting. And highly opinionated.ated painting is not rocket surgery Basically you dip about this deep into the paint you whack it against the sides of the can. It's called bang loading Don't worry about it. I'm saying nothing you hold it like a pencil. I'm loading. Okay, so not like this like this and then you should be using a I think it's called a sash brush. So basically where it's like, where it goes down but it's angled at the bottom. And so the very longest part is the part that does the finest edge. And then you use the shorter part to kind of put on the bulk of it. And then you just paint a straight line. I think the brush is something that I'd been missing for a long time. I didn't realize that there was a specific kind of angled brush that really helps with that.

Oh, yeah. That's good advice. If you try and do that with just like a blunt, slish square brush, you're fucked. Like, you can't edge like that. Tools really help. Yes. And last one I got for you now. Hey, DLL, I live in the US and need to upgrade my GPU with the looming potential tariffs.

Do you all think I should get the 4000 series on Black Friday or still wait for the 5000 series? Literally greenlit that video concept today. We're gonna have a full video coming on that. I think Elijah's working on it That's all I got. Well, then we'll see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel You're gonna go watch the fight at the watch party. Oh, no, you can't you gotta go do bird medicine Dan you're go watch the fight at the watch party? Oh no, you can't, you gotta go do bird medicine. Dan, you gonna watch the fight? Uh, no. Maybe, are they upstairs? Maybe, oh they're in lab.

Yeah, they're in lab. Cool, y'all go say hi. All right. Good luck everyone. See you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye! Apparently the anthem is starting right now.

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