The WAN Show - New YouTube Demonetization Controversy - WAN Show Feb 22, 2019

Episode Date: February 25, 2019

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Another? Has there ever been a spectacular WAN show. Another? Has there ever been a spectacular WAN show? Well, another. If you liked previous WAN shows, then this is pretty much more of the same. There's been some pretty spectacular WAN shows. I think there's been some pretty spectacular WAN shows. We've got a bunch of great topics for you guys today,

including the big controversy where YouTube is demonetizing channels over the comments that other users post under their videos. More on this at 11. I love it. I'm so happy. I'm just, it's so great. There's also Samsung Galaxy Fold.

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sense yeah whatever we'll cover we'll cover the sponsor stuff later in the sponsor spot sponsor where it's supposed to go um so i actually had a really cool week we did some really neat videos this week um i'd love to tell you about them but i no longer you know what let's talk about this first i no longer do the wan show on my daily driver laptop yeah because some of you may or may not have noticed this but over the few weeks, there have been a couple of LAN shows that mysteriously went la-missing. And they were either just not uploaded immediately after we broadcast, or they were live for a short period of time and then gone. What's weird is YouTube just glitched.

Oh, no, wait, that makes sense. Wait. That doesn't actually make sense. No, that doesn't make sense. What's weird is YouTube just glitched as well. Oh, no, wait, that makes sense. Wait. That doesn't actually make sense. No, that doesn't make sense. Did our side? YouTube froze for a second. Let me just...

I have actually noticed this computer is probably long overdue for a reboot, if nothing else. So we'll get to that. No, it's been rebooted. Okay. I don't know. We'll... It seems fine now. Figure that out another time. It seems okay.

Anyway, a couple of WAN shows disappeared. And the reason for that was not contrary to some fairly aluminum foil hat type speculation. I heard people saying it was... Yeah, it was... I slammed that down because that was not it. Nothing to do with Vox. No. Nothing to do with Google.

Google did not pull down the WAN show. Nope. And nothing to do with me trying to suppress information that I had said on the WAN show about like the whole content ID claim

thing that went on. Nothing like that. What actually happened was there was some personal information of mine that was leaked yeah in uh one of them and then there was some personal information of some of our staff that was leaked in another one so in order to ensure that i don't have spreadsheets or other things that works super well open on my laptop um i have gotten a different one however it's not a perfect fix because actually one of those times I was already using this one, but I was signed into Chrome.

Which like? Which carries a lot of personal information with it. Things are hard, okay? Yeah. I never claimed to be some kind of tech guru. They put me on that pedestal. No, you did. No, I didn't.

You named the channel. I, your name's in it, and then Tech Tips. I didn't name the channel, actually. That was your boss. That's my defense. You didn't exactly fight against it, though, I'm sure. I named the NCIX channel, which I hosted, NCIX Tech Tips.

So I am partially responsible. Oh, man. Yeah. So what was I talking about? You were talking about your laptop, but I'm not entirely sure why. I don't remember why. I actually have no... Oh, oh, oh, oh.

LTX. Okay. Remember I told you there was an update? Yeah. Okay, so Colton, because he is a small, small man physically, Because a small, small man physically has, like, he's just, look, he's power tripping right now. He's power tripping. He has put a gag order on me.

He's put a gag order on me. He said that I can't tell people how many ltx tickets have sold already oh so we did a stream a few hours ago announcing that ltx tickets were on sale i wish the stream had been on time because by the time we did the stream vip tickets had been sold out for over an hour i had comments of people telling me that they tried to buy them but by the time they got through the captcha, they were gone. And they had bots watching the site. That's what I was saying previously. I was like, I think the price might be a little too low because people are going to grab them too fast.

But then you feel bad if you put it too high. I totally understand. Do you know how much of an asshole I already feel like charging people hundreds of dollars to come hang with me and the team? Like, that feels inappropriate. No, I know. But the only way for us to slow down the velocity of those tickets would be to charge, like, two, three grand for them.

Yeah. But it's like... But then that's ridiculous at the same time. Yeah. And then you're making it so that a lot of the people that should probably be the ones that are there are not able to get there. There's no way to make everyone happy

unless I set aside like three months. Yeah. And do one on. No, not even. Like not, no. Like legitimately wouldn't be enough time. So I can give you guys. So I can't tell you how many tickets have sold.

But what I can do. VIP is gone though. I can write it on my dock here. And then Luke can react to the number. I can't even compare at all. No, you can't. Because compared to last year. People know how many tickets we've sold in previous years.

Yeah. And they would be able to do the math. How many are there available, maximum? So it's a little fuzzy. It will depend on the final layout because the fire marshal is going to look at the layout and say, here's how many you're allowed to have. But the absolute maximum of that space,

assuming we put nothing in it is six thousand go buy your tickets yeah that's crazy i wonder like i'm sure part of its dream hack, but I wonder if it's a pretty significant amount. It's just the tone Because like this year's gonna be way different. Um all the office tours are sold So the entire prior Friday I'm taking groups of I think it's 20 or 25 on Tours every I think it's half an hour or 40 minutes and on tours every, I think it's half an hour or 40 minutes. And so that's, however many, I think that's like 10 tours.

All of those are gone. Jaden and Will, because you'll be here by then, you guys got to be in office that day so Floatplane can like show up. Yeah, Floatplane has to like flex hard, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I didn't tell them!

I didn't tell them! Look, Napoleon! What, did you call me? I called you Napoleon! Because I'm short? You're like an inch taller than me! I know, I'm allowed to make short people jokes! Napoleon wasn't short. Yeah he was.

Well, he wasn't tall. He wasn't short. Hold on a minute here. He was like average height for the era. Yeah, he was not short. That was a fabricated thing. Anyways. 5'7". He's like an inch taller than me. But that's back then.

Yeah, that's true. Okay. Anyways, ticket sales are going really well. Yeah, apparently. It's going to be sick. Yeah, I know the number. Oh. It's going to be sick.

That's pretty sick. Yeah. I don't, I can't. I want to give comparatives, but I can't. You can just say we've sold more today than we did all of last year we can say that? you weren't going to let me say that okay alright so in the last

don't say whatever bye he just runs he just runs away in the last okay here's what I'll say in the first two hours, we sold more tickets than we did last year altogether.

And it's not like it stopped dead after two hours. That should give you some idea. Yeah. So, yeah. I'm so stoked. I am like so excited. It is going to be just like and the crazy thing is even if we were to sell every ticket that we could it's still borderline whether we would even break even yeah yeah but like if the idea was let's have a crazy get together of like tech enthusiasts and tech creators and have a giant two day just fun event,

then well, if more people show up, then that's cool. I'm really, really excited. That's really cool. That legitimizes a lot of it. Your first day of ticket sales, I know being a buyer, you're like, oh, whatever, I kinda wanna buy last minute so I can make sure I do my hotel, whatever it's like my mom needs me to help her

move something then I can go do that that day instead yeah but as a ticket as the person selling the tickets you want to sell them all really quickly because then you know that there's a lot of demand and then you can scale up next year and all that kind of stuff so it's nice that you buy tickets now also if you want to go apparently you might have to buy them now yeah that's a that's a pretty big number people are saying maybe amd can sponsor more space no i i've actually they're done i checked in with colton even like a couple weeks ago because i've seen how much hype there is about the event this year and i was like hey so convention center do they have more space he's like no look you could stop asking me

there we have like the whole like okay if we were doing this again next year and we wanted to scale up in that same building yes there is okay yes okay like if we finish ltx 2019 the next day we're like yo vancouver convention center same bat time, same bat channel, next year. We need double the space. Like they've got it. Okay. They have multiple buildings even. Yeah.

So we're just in like. Because it's cool to be able to scale in the same building for a while. I think we're in like three ballrooms of one building right now. It's like a massive space, but like there's room. That's legit. There's room. We could go for it. Very cool.

Yeah. So excited. for it very cool yeah um on the topic of things exciting i'm excited to have something controversial as a headline even though i personally don't necessarily think this is a huge deal i think it's great okay so it's wonderful i'm reloading on the forum posted this Basically what's happening right now is? User comments on your video could get your video Demonetized so a report from wired on Wednesday claimed that videos of Okay, children in their underwear or showing their exposed buttocks and genitals are racking up millions of views on YouTube with the site displaying advertising from major cosmetics and car brands alongside the content. Now, to be clear, and you know, it's such a weird thing to talk about.

Like, I take pictures of my kids where their butts showing all the time stuff on the wall at my parents house of me i've seen this yeah um it's pretty normal if it's not perverse yeah like i mean how do i like i... Like, I bathe these children. Like, to me, there's nothing sexual about it. They're just my kids being cute little kids. And that's natural. That's how your brain is supposed to work. Sometimes they happen to be naked, and they're adorable. And so, with that said, I don't upload them don't upload them you don't share them yeah so my photo

backup solution is one on a private server that i own um it's actually something i didn't realize when i first set up a plex server is how great it is for photo library backup because not only can i check out my photos but i can see my wife's and before you ask yes to FA yes okay yeah don't worry anyway it's important yeah um and plex is quite great so plex is kind of amazing I'm down with that anyway so so the thing is the people uploading this content might just be uploading, haha, a funny video of when the dog pulled on Junior's pants and his butt was showing, but there's comments under scenes of these videos

where exposed things can be seen, like where a child does the splits, like in, say, a gymnastics video for example or lifts up their top showing their nipples um demonetize that appear to be from a dollar sign pedophiles who are documenting these time stamps for each other to find wow and then effectively create what they've effectively created is like a soft core child pornography um like loop or ring uh so right back to the part about how these videos are monetized in some cases by big brands now obviously if i'm pers, I don't think there's anything particularly inappropriate about the buttocks of a baby. No.

It's literally my job to make things that go against them and keep them dry and velvety soft or whatever. Yeah. Right? And Pampers was just an arbitrary example. I actually have no idea who even, which multinational conglomerate owns the Pampers brand. Just hypothetical example. No idea. But when all of a sudden it's being twisted and deformed

into something that is being, whether it was intended for it or not, used as pedophile wank material all of us well no seriously like do I want my brand on it no so on Wednesday YouTube announced that it had banned more than 400 channels and disabled comments on tens of millions of videos. So some of the demonetized videos are from perfectly innocent creators. So source four here is, um, here we go. Let's go ahead and pull this up. Jessica Bollinger, my five year old son does gymnastics, is a happy, sweet, confident boy.

YouTube not advertiser friendly. I find the timing of this very disheartening for the YouTube community and apparently a lot of people agree. YouTube posted an update and blah-ba-dee-bloo-ba-dee blah blah blah. So, when I prefaced this, I said that I didn't think it was that big of a deal. Um, do you want to go first or should I explain that probably quite controversial stance? Uh, no, you can go for it. Okay. I could, I have stuff to say, but you can go for it if you want.

Okay. So one, I fully understand why brands would be hypersensitive to being associated with anything that is not just illegal, but disgusting like pedophilia. today for them to imagine that their brand appearing next to this with those comments under it might turn off some people or spark just widespread furor is not necessarily unreasonable i posted a tweet earlier this week of me holding up an accessory for the xbox um i believe it's called the accessible controller. That thing's super cool. So we're actually working on a review, which is why we have it. Anyway, I held up a picture poking fun at this accessory because they reused the molding from the Nintendo nunchuck. And I went, good job, Microsoft, you invented the Wii nunchuck and I went good job Microsoft you invented the wii nunchuck because it's got like a giant Xbox logo and stuff people were so mad they were like

how dare you make fun of disabled gamers what and I went That's not... What are you talking about? I'm making fun of them reusing plastic molding as a cost-saving measure. Like, it was a purely technical joke. Not a... Look, look. You've got to figure out who the real enemy is here so that's that's yeah that's what that's the problem yeah you gotta figure out who's on your side okay so this comes back to oh man i'm going on a tangent now so this comes back to the whole tampons versus pads controversy with the Amazon Go store video. I shot an intro of that video where the actual joke

is that you're a moron if you feel like feminine hygiene products are too icky to go get them for your significant. That's the joke. But I say it in a way that is sort of intended not to offend people too much, I guess. Like I beat around the bush a little bit. So I basically go, you know, if there's a feminine hygiene emergency in your house and you are too embarrassed to talk to a real live human being while you go by these things,

well then, great news. For you, there's the m1 go store i'm poking fun at the idea that we are so fragile we are so fragile and we are so desperate to avoid any kind of human contact whatsoever that we need a store with no cashiers so we can buy pads that's the joke but people are mad at me because they're like you are normalizing the the like misogynistic view that females are gross i'm like what are you to figure out who the enemy is so back to this back to this accessory the actual backstory here is that i had to go buy this bloody thing including the the controller because mic Microsoft isn't seeding them for whatever reason.

I was like, okay, fine, you know what? Forget it. This is such an important product to cover, which we've actually talked about in the past too, that fine, we're just gonna buy it so that we can try it, because people need to know about this. Because it's super cool. So I post one tweet teasing them about reusing plastic molding.

And it's like, now I hate disabled gamers or something. I saw the commercial for it watching the Super Bowl with my family. It's unreal. And I went on a rant about how cool it is that they made it. And how it's like not a profit play, but it's like really cool because it could really enable different people to be able to play these games more effectively than they could already super super cool product so so yeah what i was basically going to say was that it's not fair to take down a whole bunch of these channels where it's clear i did have one more point go for it okay sorry yeah i got no you're

good got off on a yeah yeah thing there you did's fine. So point number two is that in the case of any one of these videos where the subject matter is minors, there's a really, really gray legal area around monetization of YouTube videos containing minors. monetization of YouTube videos containing minors. So on the one hand I could say, you know what? Any video that I shoot with my son, I am his parent or guardian. It's my video. I'm monetizing it. That's, you know what? I'm gonna spend some of that money on stuff for him. What is it? There's a... No, there's a clause specifically for this It's named after someone who so I pay my kids whenever they appear in our videos Yeah, because I think there is going to be a huge poop show

Especially when with a lot of the family vlogger channels, where these kids who were minors, not under the protections and the stipulations of how minors in the film industry are supposed to be treated, where these minors are gonna grow into adults and they're gonna say, "'Hey,' like some of the big channels, there's literally millions of dollars at play

over the course of all the years they've been running. "'Hey, where's my check?'? And no, the roof over my head and the food in my tummy is not payment. So to me, monetizing content with a miner who you are, let's face it, probably not paying. you are let's face it probably not paying you're not paying little johnny for the ice skating video that you're posting on youtube and you know what there's probably not a ton of money involved in it but as soon as there's any there's potentially a problem here so we're looking at content where minors are potentially without fully understanding the ramifications of being present on social media, where minors are being monetized. I guess what I'm trying to say is...

Yeah, so wait, there's a law. I knew about this. The Coogan Law, I knew it was named after someone, was enacted to protect the earnings of child actors. This is different because it's for movies where that child actor is paid and then the parents take the money. It's different. Is it?

It's different right now. But it's probably going to end up covering the same stuff. And what you're doing is probably quite logical so i guess um yeah i guess we're just in a i guess we're just in a bit of an interesting situation it'll happen to someone i don't think necessarily that it is um that it makes sense for people to uh unless they're doing everything by the book and employing their children as actors, I don't think it makes sense for them to be monetizing this type of content. So I guess YouTube, and I'm I am speculating I've not spoken to anyone at YouTube about this, but I guess YouTube is looking at this going okay we have a

problem with our advertisers, they don't like their ads on anything that could be perceived as pedophilia, okay. We have problem number two, our own perception. We don't want YouTube to be perceived as profiting off of pedophilia and child pornography, however soft core it may be. And problem number three is that this has the potential to freaking blow up at some point anyway. Is this even really right?

I think it's a distant third to be very clear. Cause YouTube has a lot of stuff on it that I kind of go, yeah, is even really right i think it's a distant third to be very clear uh because youtube has a lot of stuff on it that i kind of go yeah is that really right but there's there's my argument there's my argument for why i actually don't think they made a bad move here sorry i will let you go now i realize i talked for a very long time no that's fine i i think that's all super valid. You've got as long as you want. Thanks. I think that's all super valid,

especially the part about the child actors. It's not the same technically, but I think it's going to go poorly at some point in time, like I was saying. Someone is going to be the main host of a YouTube channel who's a child, and then they're going to grow up and be like, where's all my money?

And those videos are still going to be monetized, and they're still not going to be making money off of it and there's going to be some new law or an addendment to the coogan law or whatever because like legally a minor cannot actually it was only recently that a minor could even create a google account so i pretty much guarantee you most of the google accounts therefore the youtube channels that are run by kids are owned by their parents. Yeah. That makes you their employer. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, so like that's going to have to be handled

somehow and that's its own entire problem. I don't think it's completely fair in the, like, okay, we get to a problem where Google isn't the government. So like it doesn't matter if it's fair or not. It doesn't matter at all if it's fair or not they're a private company they can do whatever the heck they want so whatever but if we were looking at it

that way which is not fair to Google or YouTube but it's it's I don't think it's entirely fair to to take these channels down or demonetize them when it is the complete opposite of the intention of the channel. It's not their fault some weird person on the internet likes it. And maybe those people should look into disabling comments or like that lady actually said in her chain of tweets, she's very militant about like cleansing her comment section. So she's probably already kind of taking care of it.

I just have a question If all you're doing is removing the comments Are you solving the problem? You saw the problem of that like network thing you were talking about because I'm assuming what the idea is they were going to someone's Channel that doesn't have videos and can you still search up where someone comments on things? I'm not sure I don't know you used to be able to go to someone's page on YouTube even if they didn't upload any videos and you could see their comments across the whole site

And I'm assuming they have like central accounts and they go to those and they see all the timestamps on all the different videos So if you shut off comments and you shut that off Or just make it so you can't see a single accounts comments across the site because what's really the mechanism of that other than? But you could still someone you could still consolidate all this information off-site somewhere else and click on time stamped YouTube links Yep, that's true. Don't chin asks. So instead of the video making money For the creator Google just makes the money. No, so instead of the video making money for the creator, Google just makes the money? No, they're pulling the advertising off them entirely.

Yeah, so Google's not making money at all. I mean, I guess what I more meant was, like, if you're a concerned parent seeing these comments on, and I'm not judging. Everyone's in their own situation. I don't know what kind of comments were moderated. But if you're a concerned parent seeing comments where pedophiles are watching the content, wouldn't the actual course of action be to pull it down yourself?

Or to cut out or censor or blur the things that are making people so excited. She was saying that her son does gymnastics. So maybe there's parts where his shirt comes up or something. Maybe work on getting him some clothes that doesn't do that or cut out the parts where that happens. But I don't think that all children doing any form of gymnastics should be universally banned across the entire internet. Like that seems a little aggressive.

Yeah, that's madness. Yeah, there needs to be some type of, like you need to be able to do athletic things as a child and like have it be okay, because that's ridiculous. But as a parent, I think it's reasonable to cut out parts where there's clothing malfunctions or to just get some clothes that don't do that.

That's very possible. So part of the issue, this is a great comment from ut rules on forum excuse me float plane um one of the issues was that because the comments were so self-referential and had so many cross links between them once you watched a couple of these videos your entire recommended would be filled with more of them which was how it was so easy to find a bunch of this type of material so yes moderating your comments how are they so would help that like because they have so many of the same keywords and stuff so they become so tightly associated so they would like put in a bunch of keywords and then a timestamp so the algorithm was was figuring well they were like discussing like oh at this, there's a nipple slit and stuff.

Like, the comments are really explicit. They're not just a timestamp. I thought it was supposed to be sneaky. I thought it was just timestamps. How was that not picked up? That seems like the easiest thing. If literally the algorithm can find like comments in order to suggest them

to you, couldn't they just have used that to remove the comments and ban the accounts? Seems pretty straightforward. You've already got it working for similar, you literally are able to detect similar comments and suggest those videos. Like it doesn't seem like a difficult next step. Anyways, I don't like the idea of just purging

all those types of videos. I do like the idea of parents making sure all those types of videos i do like the idea of parents making sure they're they're cleansed videos um and maybe get your kids some better clothes for gymnastics um well the gymnastics thing too like it could just be that it's very tight fitting clothes yeah and a lot of like the thing is a lot of sports attire is kind of revealing i mean look at like tennis attire for example well lot of sports attire is kind of revealing. I mean, look at, like, tennis attire, for example. Well, almost any sports attire. Hockey.

Football pants. Yeah, football pants. They do not leave a lot to the imagination. Like, you're behind the center. You know what that butt looks like. Hey, buddy. Yeah. But, like, yeah, I don't think that should mean

that you can never have a video of boys football. There are plenty of videos of my brother and I playing football when we were children. I don't think any of those are not okay. So it's a complicated issue. YouTube's general policy for this type of stuff is to lay the smack down. And then let it back a little bit.

And then dial it back slowly so that's probably what they're doing yeah there's always collateral damage and there's always bad pr to go along with it in this case i don't necessarily fundamentally disagree with what they're doing but um yeah i don't know what it is. And I mean, you know, the thing too is like, that's easy for me to say, but what if the only thing paying for those gymnastics lessons was the monetization on these videos?

Like everyone's situation is really, really different in their lives. And that's something that we also have to consider. Yeah. One thing we know for sure is that Floatplane. Yeah. Wouldn't be pulling content down. Yeah.

Slightly more of a walled garden because people would have to pay to access that content. Also, your comments section is going to be much smaller and filled with better people, so you probably wouldn't have these types of situations in general anyways. And, yeah. I think it just wouldn't make a ton of sense. It's great. It's great for us. Isn't it great whenever YouTube has like terrible PR?

Yeah. I didn't actually know a lot about this story. I just knew it was a bad PR story for YouTube. So I was like, yeah. We also have to be fair. Which like, I still love YouTube to be completely fair. I spend a lot of time on YouTube, but. Kind of started your career on YouTube.

Yep. And we're like actually not competing with YouTube at all in any way, but the better YouTube does the better floatplane does 100% so I actually Like anytime someone's like okay. There's two sections to this first off anytime Someone's like oh someone just needs to like anyone out there just needs to make a YouTube clone And then YouTube will die first of all first of all I'm like well Hopefully not First of all, I'm like, well, hopefully not. And second of all, I'm like, well, no, that's not how that would work at all.

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There you go. Actually, you know what? We're going snowboarding, right? Yeah. So I'm going to work this off. Bring some. So I can eat the whole thing. Jerky on the mountain is awesome.

Mmm. Yeah. Get that fresh mountain air. If we take like a pit stop somewhere, pull some jerky out. I have not been snowboarding in so frigging long. And you board, not ski? I skied until I was like 11.

Okay. And then I switched to boarding. But I would ski like 20, 30 times a year from when I was like six to when I was 11. And then like three times a year after that. So I've actually skied more than I've boarded in my life. Okay. Do you think you'll board or ski then? I'll board.

Okay. Yeah. I like it better. It would be fun to go back on skis. I'm also a cheapskate though and I own a board. Oh, okay. My board is so old though. And like I'm fairly sure the sides are like actually rusty.

A little bit of rust is okay but you can also give it to there's a shop there. I know. And they can just, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm like actually kind of excited. It's been so long since I've been on a board. Yeah.

Speaking of excitement, this was posted by Zed, Zed R. Maxwell on the forum. The Samsung Galaxy Fold. It was unveiled at their Unpacked event this week. It's got a 7.3 inch Infinity Flex display with a smaller 4.6 inch display that's used for closed mode.

It's got 512 gigs of EUFS 3.0 storage. It's got a Qualcomm 7 nanometer octa-core processor, 12 gigs of RAM because why not? It's got two batteries that are separated by the fold, but combined in the Android operating system for 4,380 milliamp hours and will launch on April 26th at a price of almost $2,000 US dollars. So US, so converted to Canadian and adjusted for inflation,

because AJ called me out when I said this, that phone is legitimately more expensive than my first car. The convertible that blew up on a bridge. It wasn't exactly the greatest car ever, but it still ran for like a fair amount of years and that phone is more expensive than it. You like that notch? Crazy.

What? No. Really? For a second I thought you were talking about the fold in between, but how big is the actual notch? I'm pretty sure it's a notch. I haven't, I didn't watch the Unpacked event. I didn't either, but I've seen concept shots.

Hold on a second. Where's my, uh, I hope I'm not... Blew up, okay, the car didn't blow up. The fuel pump and fuel injectors legitimately did pop, though. Dang it! What happened? There's a video of it on YouTube. Linus was making fun of me, he had to come save me. Yeah, that was great. Blah blah blah. So actually I'll let you go first this time, I'll give you my take on it after. I think it's ridiculous. Really? Yeah. I think it's very cool. I think it's probably one of the better implementations of this that I've seen. I think it's very cool. I think it's probably one of the better implementations of this that I've seen.

I think it's ridiculous because of its price. Oh yeah, that's a notch for sure. Yeah, I think you're right. They really don't show it very much, do they? Nope. I think it's gonna be very hard to not break this. I think the battery life issues are going to be real. So, like, the...

Wow, yeah, that's pretty pronounced. I think it's going to... Whoa, that's very pronounced. They really show it there. Yeah. Holy. Who would play a game like that? I don't really see this as, like, a gaming...

No. Batteries and phones suck. This has been known for a while. I was talking to Jaden the other day. A lot of his way older phones even now have better battery life than some of his newer phones. By the time you're two, let alone three years into a phone, its battery is just trashed

if you use it consistently, like at all. So they're going to expect you to swap this thing every one... Like, if you're spending that much on the phone, you're probably swapping it every year or two. If you're in the market for that expensive of phones, you're probably not someone who's holding on to the phone for three years. You're probably a power user who's cycling their phone pretty quick so you're gonna spend like over two grand on a phone every year every year or two so they say it should last for a hundred folds a day for five

years two hundred thousand fold but no one's gonna keep okay so that's good because then the fold part won't break in the reasonable lifespan of the phone. So that's good. Or it shouldn't. Six cameras. Triple camera on the rear. Well, one of them is 16 megapixel ultra wide, one is 12 megapixel wide angle, and one is telephoto. A 10 megapixel camera for selfies in the front, and two cameras on the inside for some reason. On the giant notch. We're not sure exactly why those are there. Game streaming?

I don't know, I'm just guessing. So I'm gonna say something that might not be that popular. I think this is the future. I don't disagree with that. I just hope it's not this expensive. Oh, no. Give it time. Yeah, no, it's, yeah, that Oh, no. Give it time. Yeah.

No, it's, yeah, that's great. Having a screen that you can pull out of your pocket that turns this big, that's fantastic. I completely agree with you. I don't think that's even that controversial. Matter of time before they'll like fold two ways too. Sure, heck yeah. I want bigger.

The like foldable paper that is digital has been like a dream thing for lots of people since my generation was kids. This is not surprising. I don't think it is not the future at all. I just think it's crazy. This exact version is nutsoid. And I think I wouldn't be surprised if part of the price point that they're doing is trying to get sort of less people to buy it. Because they just want some of it to go out there. And thing's going to be hard to manufacture this is brand new technology

yeah and i mean they're not going to have that many of them to put it in perspective the fact that samsung is confident enough to even sell this thing is mind-blowing to me because the one that i saw at ces from that other company was terrible well wasn't it samsung that went on stage and they showed that terrible prototype? Of their own? The really blocky one, yeah. I thought that was Samsung. Mm-hmm, yeah.

But no, there's someone else that's selling it. That's selling a foldable phone. The thing is awful. It's terrible. This looks really smooth. The screen fold on this looks really nice. Like actually really... That looks like a very nice phone.

If it was that phone, but way cheaper, it would be very cool. So maybe in a few years, hopefully. We'll see. But yeah, I'm far from interested in this version. I'm stoked for the people that are because you get to guinea pig test it for everybody else. I'd want to try it out.

But like, there's no way I would end up daily driving it at this point in time I don't think I mean I could be I could totally be proven wrong though I could 100% get use out of it out of the big screen and all that kind of stuff but yeah I suspect there'd be too many problems the fact that

even new releases of normal phones have so many problems scares me for something like that but for years down the line yeah it'd be awesome all right do we have anything else for topics today apple 2019 leaks so reliable apple analyst ming chi kuo has released a list of suspected apple releases for this year apparently they'll come back to the display market with a 6k monitor uh said to feature a mini LED like backlight design.

Oh, fascinating. iPhones will retain lightning connectivity and will be the same size. Ultra wide band connectivity for indoor positioning and navigation, frosted glass casing. Frosted glass would be cool. That'd be nice. Upgraded face ID, larger batteries.

Ooh, okay. Mac, new MacBook Pro between 16 and 16 and a half inches and a new Mac Pro with easy to upgrade components. AirPods 2 with support for wireless charging. iPod Touch, okay. iPad, two new iPad Pro models. Neat. You know what's funny? Yeah.

Flowplane's probably going to have to buy a Mac Mini. What do you mean? What? For one of its employees. Why? For their computer. Why? To work on. Why?

Because they would like to work on a Mac. I have to buy a Mac? It's a Mac Mini. You know what? We actually are planning to buy another Mac Mini already. Really? Yeah, so a lot of the software for ingesting footage is either Apple only or better on Apple.

So the Camera Den, if we can get the issue sorted out, because so far it hasn't actually been better, but if the Camera Den figures out a can get the issue sorted out, because so far it hasn't actually been better, but if the Camera Den figures out a workflow that's better on Mac, the Mac Mini is kind of unique. It's relatively affordable, and it has a 10 gigabit option. Wow. So it's really small.

Also relatively affordable. Have you seen their RAM options? Well, you can upgrade the RAM. Yourself? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought it was soldered. Nope. So you throw a couple Mac Minis just, like, on the RAM. Yourself? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought it was soldered. Nope.

So you throw a couple Mac minis just like on the back of a monitor or whatever, plug in USB for your card readers and stuff, 10 gig LAN. It's actually kind of like we found a use case where the Mac mini really was the best computer on the market for what we were trying to do. Nice and compact, 10 gig already built in. There you go. I know, right? Who would have thunk it?

That RAM thing is actually really good to know. Can you swap out the drive too? No, I don't believe so. No? Is it just RAM that's swappable? I believe so. Okay. Good to know.

Still Apple. Yeah. It just happens to have swappable RAM. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just thought the drive was soldered in. That's actually really cool. That means J to have swappable RAM. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just thought the drive was soldered in. That's actually really cool. That means Jaden can get way more RAM.

Jaden needs a Mac? He's clearly doing his work on a PC now. Yeah, there is actually, he's been having some troubles with it. And it's easier for him to develop on his laptop at home right now compared to his PC at work. We'll talk about this later and i think that's it for one show for today guys your fault you told me i could say your name thanks for tuning in same bad time same bad channel bye everyone guys