The WAN Show - Not all Sony inventions can be good... - WAN Show July 3, 2020

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Uh, there's some, where, where did it go? I want to talk about the global foundries begins 12 nanometer production so it matters it doesn't matter it matters in some scenarios whatever we'll talk about global uh foundries producing 12 nanometer things and sony launches a portable personal air conditioner oh yeah portable personal air conditioner oh yeah that's what you needed oh yeah and it's cheap it's cheap it's affordable so we'll get to that in just a moment after we roll that intro luke can you shift a little bit to your right it's so beautiful perfect intro's going we clearly have no choice but to jump right into this sony personal portable air conditioner air conditioner so the

source is william cll on the forum who says would you look at this just in time for summer hold on a second i gotta find just the right spot to put this on this page so i don't accidentally show something i shouldn't hey there it is just in time for summer, the Rion Pocket was announced for crowdfunding in July of last year. And Sony claims that at an ambient temperature, so that doesn't tell us what that ambient temperature is, but that it can cool the shirt that it's attached to down to 23 degrees celsius so let's go ahead and have a look at exactly how this works uh actually no no we're gonna we're gonna get to how it works in just a moment um okay no we're not we're gonna jump we're gonna jump we're gonna jump right into it. They began sales Wednesday. The device tucks under your shirt and is worn in a slot at the back of the neck of a customized undershirt.

So the wearer uses a smartphone app to turn the temperature down or up because the device can either absorb or generate heat and it was developed last year after sony secured get this six hundred thousand dollars during a one-week crowdfunding campaign six hundred thousand dollars they raised for this thing i need to get into the business of creating just completely stupid bull that people can put under their shirts here i am busy making shirts for for lttstore.com and i what i should really be making is shirts and shirt accessories uh so sony set the suggested retail price at 13 000 yen what is that what's it says cost of device is 1488 so it's about 15 bucks 1674 so this is a 30 solution and here we go i've been i've been i've been holding off on this been holding off

that's pretty cheap so at an ambient temperature at an ambient temperature of 30 degrees Celsius. Wait, is that 40 degrees Celsius? Okay, this must be 40 degrees Celsius for the hottest thing in the room. But we don't know what that is. So we don't know what the actual ambient temperature is. But something, something, 13 degrees celsius cooler so basically it's uh it does say that it basically just creates a cold spot yeah it doesn't like properly actually cool your whole upper body down it just kind of creates one cold spot so the biggest thing for me i i overheat in every

scenario ever so this is actually mildly interesting thank you uh this is mildly interesting to me yeah but and i don't often care about this stuff but to a certain degree like there's this big like box on your back well you know what hold on a second let's have a look no let's have a look at the device okay because it tucks inside the shirt right yeah have you watched the video uh i haven't yet i haven't yet i was gonna play the video on the show i wanted to i've i've already heard about this and i remember the original crowdfunding campaign when i looked at this thing i was like that's just a tech and uh then i think we might have even covered it on the WAN show back when this was happening. But I think we just kind of moved on pretty quickly because it completely didn't matter.

Sorry, one second. I just need to send a little common sense um reminder to someone okay um yeah so i think we moved on from it pretty quickly i didn't i didn't necessarily think anything was going to come of this but let's go ahead let's let's enjoy the video here together shall we give me give me a second here give me a second here i'm just gonna i'm gonna turn the sound down yeah oh wait no this is not this is not working hold on wait can i wait yes i can hold on i just need to do this very very very carefully careful careful careful careful and stop there we Okay, so here's this guy.

He is... Someone is sweating. Another guy is not sweating. Oh, wow. Are you skipping through it? So cheesy. No, I'm watching the whole thing. You got to see it like...

Maybe pause at... I'm going to get you a second. Pause at 18 seconds. 18 seconds. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Oh, wow.

Yeah, that's not great. That's what I'm talking about. And that looks like that's his dress shirt over top of... Because it's more of an undershirt, right? Yes, yes, yes. That's his dress shirt over top of, because it's more of an undershirt, right? Yes, yes, yes. That's his dress shirt over top of it. So you already have the maximum amount of masking that you could have going on.

Yeah. Like a jacket on top of that. Yeah. Function very well through that jacket as well. You know what's interesting to me about the thermal camera image though is not necessarily the cold spot here but rather the the generally cooler uh spot under the shirt and also what

appears to be like a hot spot where the exhaust might be you notice that where's the what time stamp is that uh no this is in the the thermal camera images from the forum post oh okay one second so there's a generally colder sort of back of the person who's wearing it but then there's like this hot spot on their neck and i don't know about you but i think that for me personally having like a really cold spot right on my back and then like a hot spot on my neck those things might kind of end up working against each other it does it does well his overall body temperature goes down and that hot spot might just be a notably not cooled area if that makes sense i want to try it i want to try it because i would 100% try it i have actually found that like the best thing that i can do on a hot day is not necessarily drinking

water because i don't know about you but i find when i take like chug like a big drink of water on a hot day even if it's really cold i will immediately start just like sweating through however many layers of clothing it is that i'm wearing like it is absolutely disgusting i mean that that is your body temperature regulating yeah but like why is it that when i take the drink of cold water suddenly my body's like i need to sweat now well because it's going like okay i have i have the the the water in order to sweat now i guess so well i hate it so i actually find i'm usually better off taking the cold drink putting it on my neck warming it up and then

drinking you know less cold water like i actually find that works better for me okay i see okay so i would be very curious to try it now if the exhaust heat just like goes up the back of your neck and you're just like cooling one part to warm another that's pretty stupid but if it actually manages to get the heat far enough away from your body that you can that you can really you know cool down with this thing hey i it's a little humpbacky but i i could be talked into wearing it i don't see anything about battery life in here or anything like that but first flight sony.com man official website oh you know what we should we should probably go visit the official website together here ladies and gentlemen 36 degrees 23 degrees celsius no this is pretty much all the same. You know, there's another picture here

where the hump on the back actually looks a lot bigger than the image where you see the undershirt and the device itself next to each other. That looks really big. Whoa. Okay, so in the doc, it says the cost of the shirt is 16.74 the cost advice is 14.88 i don't know where they got that from on amazon it's 22 590 yen right just doing a quick google search uh 22 590 japanese yen equals 285 canadian dollars really yeah

auto mode hold on a second it will automatically like what it'll automatically go get colder while you're walking this is the most over-engineered like usb tech cooler that i have ever seen like so it's there's app control for it it can cool or warm iris it can warm yeah yeah yeah i believe it can warm as well interesting uh if i'm wrong about that i you know i'm sorry but ultimately like who cares you shouldn't probably buy it anyway like here why don't we just why don't we explore and try and find a viable alternative to this so usb beverage chiller okay here we go uh you remember that one from coolant systems way back in the day yeah that thing was so stupid uh i'm pretty sure they still exist though so here's a mug warmer you know i don't see i don't see an equivalent. I can't believe the people who gave that thing a positive review.

It like obviously didn't work. Like obviously didn't work. USB tech cooler. Hold on a second. Okay. Alibaba, alibaba.com. Here we go. Oh, I don't have a USB. You know what? Maybe they have actually created something that does not exist. Although some of this stuff looks pretty good too. Check this out. We've got the personal portable air cooling neck

band fan. I'm liking that one. We've got the kid-sized air conditioner up in here i know there's like jackets and stuff that have had air circulation fans built into them but i don't know if they've had like technically ac you know what i mean did you see uh adam savage built a uh like a personal air conditioner unit um that could go in like a mascot suit, like a, like a fursuit. Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah. That was, that was pretty neat. How do I drive a Peltier? You don't drive a Peltier on a USB connection, period. Yeah. Okay. So here's why nobody's done a Peltier USB cooler since then. There's a good thread on instructables. It's like, yeah, you just shouldn't do that. it's really stupid so that's fair that's fair uh so

i guess sony had to do some pretty uh some pretty fancy engineering in order to bring this thing to life but uh maybe they shouldn't have so why don't we go ahead and move on to our next big topic for the day which is no idea how the the doc got the prices that it got i'm not worried about it your next bmw might only have heated seats for three months this was posted by white brown we called it we called this i mean it's already a thing like tesla is already including features in the car that you then activate you know later on down the line you know whether it's their uh autonomous driving i forget what i i have a friend who has a model 3 and uh he was telling me about a feature that oh yeah uh rear heated seats i believe is uh

is a is a dlc so he was like yeah i found out the hardware is already there um and it's just like you have to pay to unlock it or whatever i'm like really um so here you go after charging for access to carplay on a subscription basis holy smokes i didn't even realize it was a subscription basis bmw has mentioned during a vr presentation that the new BMW Digital Key service will enable software updates to existing and future models based on BMW Operating System 7. Crucially, many options are now available as services, with specific mentions of adaptive cruise control, automatic high beams heated seats really a pay monthly i am like i'm happy to be you know right about things like this i guess but i am so

angry that that they that they can't that it's not enough to pay you know thirty thousand dollars or whatever it costs for whatever bmw car forty thousand i don't know i don't know what a bmw costs i'd never cared um but like however many tens of thousands of dollars you're going to pay for this car and then you're going to get nickeled and dimed for the next 5, 10, 15 years on stuff that's in there. The hardware is in there and it's specifically locking it out. These options can be enabled via the car or the new My BMW app. I mean, is it My BMW at that point? Or is it your BMW and I'm just paying to use it?

Some features can be permanently assigned to the car while others will be temporary, with mentioned periods ranging from three months to three years. So this means that, for example, heated seats could be enabled only during the winter months, which sounds like a savings until you realize that the heaters are clearly already in the seats anyway. Presumably, features could also be disabled this way. Tesla, for example, has already done something similar by disabling autopilot on a used car, as we discussed a while ago.

How infuriating is this? Out of 10. Give it to me. Give it to me straight, Luke. I don't know. I think we'll see over time. Because if it's done through the app, it probably doesn't go with the car. Right? Like if it's done through the app, it probably doesn't go with the car, right?

If it doesn't go with the car, then it would erode the resale value of the car potentially. Mm-hmm. Or they are shrinking their product stack sort of, if that makes sense. Because they'll sell less variants of cars. Yeah. Because all the cars will have the stuff in it yep so you simplify the number of actual discrete skews that the um that the dealers need to carry on the lot so so far i've heard only justifications that are good for bmw though oh yeah for sure um outside of that like you got to give me a number luke i want your number how infuriating yeah how infuriating is this i think it depends on how much this stuff costs

because like does it why why does it matter i think it does why does it matter if if if they make it so that over the course of let's say say, do we know what's the average time someone owns a new car for? I have no idea because I don't think that. Well, OK, I've only I only bought a new car once in my life. And B, I'm only, you know, three or four years into owning it. So I like I I just I have absolutely no context for it whatsoever. I do remember reading an interesting article about how it's more common for millionaires

to drive an older vehicle than it is for people who are in a significantly lower tier of wealth so it's almost like um it's actually not surprising like they kind of like outgrow a car as a status symbol and it becomes just like yeah well what like yeah i don't know it's a car or whatever you know like check out my yacht you know what i mean sure okay like like the like the penis measuring is less about something that rolls and more about something that floats you know what i mean sure okay like like the like the penis measuring is less about something that rolls and more about something that floats you know yeah

um well i just looked it up apparently in 2017 it was determined that uh average length of car ownership was 79.3 months or nearly seven years. So if you would end up saving money, which now that I know that it's seven years, I highly doubt, then that would be cool. But again, now that I know the average time is seven years, I seriously doubt it. And I suspect that this is just a one on top

of the other cost-s saving measure from BMW and everyone else where they want to have less variance in their models and they want to make more money over time. And they probably want to be able to make money from people that buy the car off someone secondhand. You know what's going to happen? You know what's going to happen? Because this is i'm calling it right now i'm calling it right now the incumbent car manufacturers feel threatened right now they feel threatened by tesla they feel threatened by new upstart manufacturers that, quite frankly, the car industry is going through a period of massive disruption right now. So they're threatened by newcomers like Tesla.

They're threatened by newcomers like Nikola. More importantly, they're threatened by low-cost car manufacturers who are coming from places like China, where labor is cheaper, access to raw materials has the potential to be cheaper, and the expertise that your Volkswagens and BMWs and Hondas and Toyotas of the world have built up over the last hundred years is not going to be worth as much as it used to be. I think they feel very threatened because the internal combustion engine is still going to exist for a very, very long time in much the same way that, you know, a satellite phone still exists.

Like, there's going to be a point in the future where it's just all battery-powered. That's going to happen. What's happening, what I'm predicting now, what I'm calling right now, is that they feel threatened and they're finding ways to extract more profit out of the customers that they can retain over the next 5, 10, 50 years. Linus is talking about something he has no idea on. Lol. No, actually, this is going to happen, but you believe whatever it is that you believe. And then what's going to happen is they're going to introduce these consumer unfriendly policies like charging a

subscription fee in order to access features that are built into the hardware of the vehicle. And Chinese manufacturers are going to come in at a fraction of the price. They're going to start out worse. We've seen it happen with Japanese cars, even going back quite a few decades at this point, but they came in kind of sucking, but being lower cost compared to the incumbent North American car makers. And then over time, they grabbed market share by being cheap, and then they used that market share and that volume of sales to improve their quality and eventually took over. Now we're going to see the same thing happen, but it's going to be cheap Chinese electric cars.

Or if it's not Chinese, it'll be Indian or it'll be something else. And I think the Germans are going to be in trouble when they're running around trying to charge $30,000, $40,000, $50,000, $60,000, $80,000 for a vehicle that you then have to have to pay these like stupid, ridiculous monthly fees for. And it's the kind of thing that has a very, very, very long-term effect. So yeah, it might not impact them for the next seven years or even 14 years. And I chose those numbers because you were saying it was about seven years was the life cycle of a car from for a brand new owner. Is that right, Luke? That was the average? Yeah.

So it might not affect your car purchase you've already made. And it might not even affect the next one you make. But at some point, you're going to get you're going to get mad about it. You're going to say this is ridiculous. And you're just not going to do it anymore. So good luck with that you guys does it feel like a like a death throw a little bit yeah like it really does it feels like one of those early like like one of those desperation moves where it's like we need to survive we need to turn we need to to turn our cars into cars as a service. But that's not going to happen. What's going to actually happen is cars as a service is going to be more of a fleet ownership thing. And they're just going to go to whoever is the lowest bidder because that's a commodity business at that point.

commodity business at that point. And so if you're going to try to build your business around maintaining that experience and that relationship with the customer, antagonizing them by charging them extra for things that already exist in the hardware is probably the wrong way to go about it. Yeah. Some people in chat are saying that they don't think that the cost of the hardware inside the car will be subsidized. I think it probably will be to a certain degree on the high end, if that makes sense. So I suspect the high end car's cost will go down a little bit, but I suspect the low end car's cost will go up a little bit, and they'll probably find a way to make it so that they don't really lose money on the hardware

and they're able to charge subscriptions overall. Yeah. on the hardware and they're able to charge subscriptions overall um yeah out of principle i will not buy a car that has a subscription fee to use there i'm saying it right now i will not what if there's no options what if there's no options other than that what if every single car requires some form of subscription and it because okay so uh i don't think they'll all do it there's no way what what if like something in the car has a subscription but you don't care about it but then i'm implicitly supporting this business aren't i yeah not even implicitly i'm explicitly supporting that business becomes the norm that like every car has some form of subscription thing in it

what do you think also what do you someone in chat said just jailbreak it what do you think about that um packing cars is already a thing it is already a thing for the benefit of the user i don't think is a thing yet that's a thing that's a thing there's a canadian company that was offering tesla's um what's it called i don't know it's some kind of performance boost thing on the model 3 they were offering it at half the price of the model 3 now i i'm gonna say that i think that that's fairly um selling hacks fairly yeah selling hacks is is probably not going to take off the way that these guys hope it might um but in terms of you know jailbreaking slash uh rooting um i would be supportive of something like that if it weren't for my discomfort around the amount of

autonomy that future cars are going to have and how that might impact it I mean what if you what if it was not implemented quite correctly and it caused some kind of system malfunction and you you'll run over a lady walking your dog. That's a life-ending slash life-altering thing. And I just, you know, maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I don't think that when it comes to a motor vehicle that I would be interested in any kind of, like, hacky feature alteration, honestly. I don't know if that was your original question.

No, it kind of was. I just, I suspect that that type of reasoning will be why they will be able to hold on their grip to their subscription model. We've got a couple of good examples. Hold on, let me jump in here really quick. We've got a couple of good examples. Hold on, Luke. Let me jump in here really quick. We've got a couple of good examples of things that already exist as options in cars. So OnStar is an example of a service where the hardware is in the car,

but you don't get it unless you subscribe to it. That's fair. But OnStar is, in my opinion, not an applicable example because OnStar has actual like concierge service, like people that you can call and talk to, you know, when you need help after an accident or whatever. And my understanding is that some of that monthly cost would actually go towards maintaining a cellular service subscription, which is something that for

better or for worse is something that we have to pay for on a monthly basis. That's just like how that works. There's no, um, you know, just like government subsidized, you know, everybody has a basic cellular connection thing. Um, so that's one example. Another example is Sirius XM radio. So that, again, I don't feel is an applicable example because here you are actually licensing access to content.

So to me, that's more like a subscription to YouTube music or Spotify. And it's not literally sending power that you are generating through fuel to a device in your car. It's more than that. Yeah. So I disagree. I disagree with those examples. I don't think those are the same thing.

Yeah. Someone brought up a really interesting point in the YouTube chat about how modifying or jailbreaking your car could have insurance implications. And that's a really great point. And I could 100% see that happening, even if the modification that I made did not in any way affect the safety of the vehicle. If, you know, knock on wood, if something were to happen and my insurance didn't cover

me, you know, all of a sudden I could be on the hook for paying. I mean, it is very easy for an insurance claim to be a million, two million, five million dollars. You know, you could end up in a situation where because you, you know, wanted to go a little faster and didn't feel like paying Tesla the money, your insurance is invalidated and you're in debt for the entire rest of your life. That's a life-changing, life-ruining decision. That's interesting because if you know how... I don't know if they're actually doing this or not, so my bad if they're not. But you know how Tesla was talking about how they would be handling the insurance claims for autopilot mistakes?

Yeah, what did happen with that? I'm not sure. But go ahead. I can't remember. If they were, if you mess with their car, I'm sure they wouldn't. Oh, yeah sure they wouldn't oh yeah i wouldn't they're going to like take control essentially of the insurance of their cars they can take control of basically the viability of hacking the car yep yep another really interesting point this is again in the youtube chat is you know one thing that offends uh hold on where are you okay sorry i didn't catch your name oh r potter tg t16 terrible username try better um one thing that they brought up was heated seats are heavy and reduce gas mileage i don't want to lug those around if I can't use them. That's a great point because not only is there just the

offensiveness of buying hardware that you don't get to use unless you buy it again, but there's the wastefulness. And not just the wastefulness of including those materials in the seats in the first place, but the wastefulness of just burning gas to carry around weight that you are never going to use yep kind of brutal i hate it i hate it so there you go i'm i'm saying it now i will not buy a car that has a monthly subscription fee for features that i consider to be hardware if there's no will you just buy like super old cars at that point like say we're like we're 20 years in the future these cars became an absolute norm uh five years from now so you have to buy 15 year old cars would you do that

okay i want to say years after that you'd buy a 20 year old car i want to say i want to say yes i want to say yes but i also told myself i'd never buy dlc and i did buy a couple dlcs for ano 1800 with that said i they're they are like completely new regions that were designed they're not just like dumb skins or whatever and i've put a lot of hours into the game and these are exactly the kinds of justifications that have people spending 150 200 on a game these days which is brutal um to be fair does it feel more like expansiony It does feel more like an expansion pack, which I have bought before and I don't inherently object to. And I did follow my expansion pack policy

in the sense that I waited for all the DLCs to be done and wrapped up so that I know that there's one final price that I'm paying for the entire rest of the content that goes with that game. So I didn't like buy one season's pass and then another season's pass. I waited until the comprehensive season's pass

was available that includes everything forever. And I got that one and it includes everything that was ever out before and everything that's coming after that. EDC 4MA said that we missed the mark on the lower manufacturing costs of streamlining the production of the seats so that they all just

contain the heated seats. So that's a fair point. That is a very fair point because it simplifies the product stack and saves something. It adds efficiency there. But my counter to that is that if you're improving the efficiency of your product lineup in that way then it really isn't that difficult like if it really isn't worth it to you to take the heating element out then you could probably just not charge that much more and heated seats could just be know what come on maybe i'm a maybe i'm a disgusting socialist gross whatever i don't know what what a cuck is that is that a good insult for socialists i don't know i don't know i don't know man i just i man. I just, I can never keep up with all the new slang. On that note, why don't we go ahead and move on to...

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you just want some comfy shirts and you want to maybe grab a water bottle or a stealth hoodie or whatever else while you're at it use code cuck for 10% off oh my god let's let's not do that oh man thank you twitch chat i love you guys so much all right let's move uh let's talk about the facebook adpocalypse you know what this is actually making me so happy this is like as crazy as it as these words coming out of my mouth are going to sound this feels like what responsible capitalism might look like okay what a stream what a wancho i know okay i know but hear me out for the first time in its history facebook is facing an organized boycott from advertisers we're seeing people voting with their wallets potentially towards these companies. So these companies feel like they need to vote with their wallets towards Facebook.

With their big wallets against Facebook. So as of July 1st, 240 companies across many industries have signed on to the hashtag Stop Hate for Profit campaign. These include Hershey, Honda, Verizon, Target, Ben & Jerry's, Dashlane, Eddie Bauer, Jansport, Levi Strauss & Co., Madewell, Magnolia Pictures, Mozilla, The North Face, Patagonia, Patreon, SAP, Upwork, Kind, it's a health snack brand apparently, and Sony, which reportedly said on July 2nd it would suspend ads on facebook and instagram through the end of the month well why does every single company not have a description and then kind is like health snack brand i've never heard of them really yeah so uh kind founder uh daniel

lubetsky lubetsky whatever it doesn't matter if they said if facebook doesn't take visible measurable and assertive efforts to effectively prevent the promotion of hate division defamation and misinformation by this year's end we will feel compelled to evaluate indefinitely suspending our investments in facebook until they do so some companies you think this think this is good? You promote this. You like this, right? That's what you were saying? What I like about it is companies taking a freaking stand for a change. Okay, but so the direction I was going in with that, I guess,

is that you want Facebook to censor things that have to do with hate, division, defamation, and misinformation. I think censor is the wrong word, but I think that Facebook could absolutely do more. I think they could do more to... How do I put this? Content as questionable or something? Yes. How do I put this? Like flagged content as questionable or something? Yes. Because there's an interesting argument here that we are moving into a realm where corporations, large corporations that deal in information. Yes.

Social media networks are, to a certain degree, essentially information brokers. social media networks are are to a certain degree essentially information brokers um large corporations that deal in information are due to this going to directly control the information that you receive we're completely maybe they're controlling in this in this realm maybe they're controlling it in a good way hopefully all the misinformation is actually misinformation hopefully all the the hate speech all that kind of stuff they get rid of it because uh harassment online is like a really big deal yeah kind of like like it actually is especially if if you're you're like someone of prominent figure because you you get all these voices hitting you at the same time uh division

is is a massive thing right now. The whole world is extremely divided. Maybe right now it's going in a good direction. But we are pushing companies to take control of narratives and to control conversations and to decide what information we should and should not get. Companies. Not only governments,

but corporations that are going to financially benefit off of controlling this information are now being pushed to do so. So here's the issue. What they're being pushed to do is do a better job of it because frankly that's something they're already doing anyway so if the ship has sailed already they were trying to do so less and then people got mad as far as i know i could be wrong about this so i think a big part of the a big part of what has prompted this is uh facebook's extremely lax policies with respect to political ads. So they're allowing blatantly false, provably false information to be micro-targeted. uh you know facebook has ad target groups as granular as uh you know people who believe in misinformation um uh you know people people uh what was that category that we talked about i

forget this was a couple months ago do you remember i don't remember but i know what you're talking about yeah i yeah i can't remember exactly what it was but so so do you think it you would prefer like a a basically a mass banning of pseudoscience a bunch of people in twitter saying pseudoscience oh man yeah pseudoscience that was it that was the word yep um thank you chad uh so you're talking more of a mass banning or blockage of the category you got to be careful with the words because when you say censor or ban or block that's not what i'm asking for what i'm asking is that in the age of information people should have access to the best information that they can and right now one of the biggest problems we have is that

you can, it's very difficult to get the right answer when you ask the wrong question, right? Because it's really simple to find good information if your Google Fu is strong. But here's something that I encountered the other day. Yeah, here we go. I sent an email to a friend of mine because I was just, I needed to talk to someone about this um a subject line just learned about shungite have you ever heard of shungite i heard about it through a doctor disrespect meme okay it's like some rock or something isn't it basically people think is powerful for some reason so what happened was I Googled, WTF is Shungite, not literally that,

but I basically Googled Shungite. And I got this sort of, you know how Google will have commonly asked questions about it and then the answers, right? Like that's a pretty normal thing. So here are some of the commonly asked questions about Shungite. What is Shungite used for?

Does Shungite really work? Can Shungite be harmful? How long does Shungite last? And how do you recharge Shungite? If I were to click on something like, does Shungite really work? And I were to get, this is great. And I were to get, this is an elevated answer. This is effectively a promoted answer on Google.

This is from a site called blog.shoplc.com. And it says, if you purchase a quality shungite product that contains high amounts of carbon and fullerenes then it'll be effective at absorbing the radiation it stands to reason that the more shungite you have around sources of radiation the better job it is likely to do only the high quality stuff though dude this is not this is not the kind of answer that i am expecting i am expecting to have at least two different answers to that question. One based on that there is no research to suggest that shungite is going to heal your body in any meaningful way. And one from someone who is clearly promoting this stuff, saying that, you know, yeah, definitely buy more. The more you have, the better. Then there's sort of what I'm talking about with respect to asking the wrong questions.

So if you ask a question like, how do you recharge Shungite? What you really need to know is that this is pseudoscience, magic crystals nonsense. But instead, the answer that I get from karelianheritage.com is to recharge Shungite.

Karelian heritage? I know, it's so close to Karen. No, like from Karelia? No, no, no, it's spelled differently. So here's how to recharge Shungite. To do it, you can leave it for a day under direct sunlight or for a night under moonlight. Use the smoke from sage and incense or fire from a candle. You can leave it for a day under direct sunlight or for a night under moonlight.

Use the smoke from sage and incense or fire from a candle. Wash it under pure water or dig it in a natural soil for a couple of hours. Recharge it with the power crystals such as selenite, amethyst, or quartz. The power crystals. With the power. The power crystals. The power crystals. With the power. The power crystals. The power crystals. And so, you know, for me, what's really important is that someone researching Shungite is not getting information from people who are selling Shungite.

Or if they are, they are also getting information from people who are not selling Shungite. And one of the problems with misinformation is that it's so profitable and it's so prominent these days that it almost becomes like uh it almost becomes an unwinnable game of whack-a-mole because real scientists that have actual important work to do cannot be running around disproving every nonsense claim that someone comes up with i I mean, what happened to the burden, just the concept of the burden of proof? The burden of proof is on whoever is making an affirmative statement. Yeah. Okay. So I guess my competing thing here,

you want more information. But Google can't control... How is Google going to control what you click on? Maybe they go like, hey, here's an article that pertains... In this situation, you ask how to recharge it. So maybe what they do is, hey hey here's an article on this person saying that you need to burn some incense and put it in the circle and and click your fingers or something and then they also suggest another one that that talks against it i mean i had like but this is a controversial topic check out this this is a controversial topic. Check out this. This is a controversial topic. And, you know, you know, whether you whether you link to an authoritative source like, you know, Mayo Clinic or something like that.

Again, though, you know, I don't know that that's a perfect solution because part of the problem with science is that it gets it wrong a lot um which is fine but people have to understand that science is a pursuit of knowledge not not a definitive um having of knowledge uh and good scientists there are bad scientists there are scientists that treat it like uh like uh like a religion like like it's unquestionable but science is questioning what we're told that's the entire point of it um so yeah we've got people saying more information is as bad as only displaying the biased information you overload the user and they ignore it all.

Well, if they ignore Shungite, then that's fine. I think that's probably okay. And so, okay, okay. So Varial says, how on earth is Google going to manually vet millions of questions? Well, I don't think they have to. I think that you can paint with relatively broad strokes. So all of those questions about Shungite can be fairly simply redirected to kind of like what Wikipedia does, where it's like a disambiguation article. It's like, hey, so you're asking this question, but for your reference, here's an authoritative source

that basically says, at this point in time, there is no reasonable evidence to suggest that Shungite does anything, whether it's in a charged or discharged state, and you sort of buy it at your own risk. It's probably not going to hurt you in much the same way that, you know, drawing a special magic circle on the floor of your bathroom before you have a bath isn't going to hurt you. It's just probably a waste of your time and therefore money but what is to stop someone in the uh pro shunganite community from saying that they are a night is is that not what it's called i don't know i don't sure um it's just whatever uh from claiming that they are a researcher and that they have because it's because there's there's some i don't remember what exactly it was i believe she ended up on dr phil but there was some lady that made this drink that you were supposed to drink and i believe it got rid of like or no i don't believe it did this i believe it was claimed that it got rid of of cancer or something and it

was this like horrible drink that like rotted out your body i don't remember what it was called jilly juice or something like that um she claimed to be a researcher she published books on this um jilly juice Um, Jilly Juice. Jilly Juice. Yeah, this looks like it. This is it. Jilly Juice. How do I spell that?

J-I-L-L-Y Juice. Okay. Oh, wow, they're still around. Yeah. So Wikipedia, when you go to the Jilly Juice Wikipedia article, says this article is a part of a series on alternative and pseudo medicine. But they're not like directly being like, yeah, this is obviously... They did say alternative and pseudo.

But that's as far as they went. It is claimed by his proponents to be able to cure an assortment of conditions, including cancer and autism, as well as regenerate missing limbs, reverse the effects of aging, and, oh boy, and quote-unquote cure homosexuality. Oh boy. And quote-unquote, cure homosexuality. Oh, boy. The juice composed of a mixture of water, salt, fermented cabbage or kale is claimed to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's terrible. And it, like, is horrible to take.

Apparently, it tastes disgusting and it just, like, rots you out from the inside. Drinking jelly juice is... is so efficacy on wikipedia it says drinking chili juice is ineffective in treating ailments and cause serious harm including extreme dehydration and salt or death due to its high sodium content like this stuff is horrible. It's terrible. The claims that it makes are horrible. The effects of it are horrible. Like it's dangerous and horrible. But I believe the lady that invented it has published books and claims she is a researcher.

So how as a search engine or a social media website do you get rid of this stuff because then she was going to like science route obviously other a little bit less forms of science have been like uh no it can kill you um yeah. But like, it's horrible. Someone in chat said not peer reviewed, though. I mean, she could probably find a peer to peer review it. Yeah, I mean, that's sort of part of the problem is there's so much money to be made in magic remedies that, you know, it's just a matter of finding,

you know, like, let's say, you know, the population of North north america is what in the neighborhood of like 400 to 500 million people or something like that the odds of finding a handful of unethical enough people to sell their soul for a few million dollars seems pretty good yeah i mean is this something that needs more needs more the problem the problem for me is that you know it's it's not easy to say okay well you know hey we we just need more government regulation of this stuff because unfortunately that can create its own completely separate set of problems i mean let's look at what happened with the whole net neutrality debate which should

not have been a debate should never have been a partisan issue. And for whatever reason, you know, ends up with two sides where, for better or for worse, one of them is arguing that red is orange and the other one is arguing that red is blue. And it doesn't seem like if we can agree on a reality that it's possible to move forward on a solution to our real problems. So there, I don't have the solution, but I do think that I do agree that Facebook could be doing more. Okay. There. I have noticed that almost every time we've looked at one of these things

wikipedia has done something they did something like like with jilly juice there was a big thing in the corner being like this is alternative and pseudo whatever whatever um yeah with shungite if you look up shungite wikipedia is the first result um and someone said that there was a thing but now that i clicked on it i don't see anything um yeah i don't see anything about i actually don't see anything about the oh wait no uses has been used as a folk medical treatment since the early 18th century um okay antibacterial properties okay make use of water purifying which is so it it says that like the rest of it well the the only thing that it says is confirmed is the antibacterial properties of shungite have been confirmed by modern testing okay but it does not acknowledge anything else at all so actually in this case

wikipedia has not seemingly um really done much of anything to dispel um any disproven incredibly difficult thing to do click on the talk page i don't i don't do a lot of this where's the top oh okay it's a tab in the top left hand corner oh okay uh yeah coronavirus 5g conspiracy theory oh lordy oh shanghai can defend against the harms of 5g in relation to coronavirus that's a good one oh that's an amazing sentence my brain hurts so much okay ryan says i love how a moment ago you were simping for capitalism but now suddenly can't stop talking about the blatant issues of late stage capitalismMAO. Here's a clue, Ryan. I'm going to give you one for free. It's not as simple as one way versus the other way.

Ever. Yeah. You're welcome. Why don't we move on to another topic here? Let's see. Yeah, let's just move on to another topic here. Anyways, my thing was basically just that it's tough. Having done the tiny amount of stuff through the forum

and whatever other stuff I've done, it's really tough. Because anytime you're like, yeah, this is obvious, just shut that up. It's like, well, okay, there's essentially infinite other examples. And how do you filter this stuff properly? There's also going to be people that disagree with you sometimes and you can't just say that you are always right about everything because there's no way that's true so it's like ah it's rough anyways yeah let's move on what a great youtube channel idea this has got to exist already like just trying miracle cures i think it does um i i've i feel like i've

i've heard of a a youtuber that does that but i searched for miracle cure reviews and it seems like some people have done some miracle cure like reviews but i don't see like just a channel that's been elevated to the top here a lot of it's about miracle hair treatment which seems to be a specific product or miracle gel which is a nail polish um one of the scary things about this is like stuff like the jelly juice like it can it can just kill you. You're essentially doing medical trials on yourself without the potential. Well, I guess maybe the potential of the betterment. Maybe the potential, yeah.

Oh, I didn't mean of it working. No, I'm not worried about that part. Because medical trials, when you start medical trials, you get paid, sure, but you also have the potential of bettering humanity if they discover something super valuable, right but like some miracle cure junk like i mean hey luke luke you know what i mean we discovered cheese from like scraping fermented junk off of a rock in a cave or something like that or is it cottage cheese i don't remember it doesn't matter the point is

it's a matter of time before these yahoos discover an actual cure to something. Canada had some rotten bread. We went really far with that. The insulin or something? Oh, I don't remember. All right. So the Evo 2020 game tournament has been canceled and the co-founder was fired. This is kind of big news this week it was supposed to feature

series like street fighter tekken and super smash bros it is officially canceled and before the announcement major commentators players and companies pulled out of evo in the wake of allegations against one of the co-founders of underage sexual assault um yeah but there's there's been a lot so the the smash community as a whole is like on fire right now um it has been wild and kind of difficult to follow because there's been so much news and there's been so many people that have been called out and there's been so many people responding to being called out and there's people that have been called out. And there's been so many people responding to being called out. And there's people that after being called out have just deleted all of their public accounts on everything. And there's people that have been like, yep, I did it.

And there's people that have denied it. And there's just, it has been crazy. So, yeah, the Smash community is a crazy spot right now. Yeah. I made a joke that one of the Smash players might win the next tournament by default because there might not be anyone else left. Oh, man.

Which might not be that funny of a joke right now. Yeah, I don't know luke that seems that seems like some pretty edgelord edgelord stuff right there hey man you were making uh you were you were saying cuck all stream what well yeah it's not a swear word it's not a swear word sure it's not one of the hold on what george George Carlin words you can't say. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Seven words you can't say.

Not in there. Not in there. So I don't accept it. Okay, fine. Fair. What are we even talking about? Okay, so originally. I don't know if there's a ton more to go.

Yeah, initially Evo tried to move forward with an administrative leave plan for the co-founder but that wasn't enough to keep people from bailing um just brutal i mean the gaming community as a whole is going through a bit of a reckoning right now in terms of not just not just like hashtag me too but um accusations of people abusing their positions uh whether sexually or non-sexually luke looks deeply concerned i just i don't know i've been trying to follow some of this stuff and i hadn't heard about this stuff yet so i was reading this and like apparently he paid uh multiple boys aged 12 to 16 40 bucks to jump in a pool in just their underwear for 10 minutes like what the heck uh and there was some other stuff where uh he paid someone named uh oh wait no no mikey fam was paid 20 to show images of his genitalia as proof against an asian stereotype Asian stereotype. Like what the heck is going on?

Smash community is messy, dude. Oh, okay. All right. Um, well, another news,

um, one netbooks, uh, one GX one seven inch mini laptop looks like a little tiny alien where 51 M. Uh, the source here is littlepewding.com, and this thing looks absolutely sick. Look at that. It's an adorable little Alienware clone. I absolutely love it. Don't expect Alienware-like performance out of this thing because it's using onboard graphics. Hold on a second. Where's our 7-w 7 watt quad core chip with intel uhd graphics and

24 execution units uh where are the rest of the specs here come on guys there we go 8 or 16 gigs of lpddr3 memory so it's not going to have the same kind of performance you might expect from a gpd win max 46 watt hour battery though that sounds pretty good dual fans dual copper heat sinks and a core i5 10 to 10 y so that is a wow it's a 10th gen processor it looks so cool like it does look really cool apparently there's an idea of being able to attach controllers to the side of it i know right that is so awesome i love it that's kind of all i gotta say about that global foundries begins 12 nanometer production uh finally like global foundries was real quiet for a real long

time there uh so they say their differentiated 12 lp plus solution is optimized for artificial intelligence training and inference applications. Target applications and solutions. Mobile apps processor, 80% higher performance, greater than 2.2 gigahertz, 45% area reduction. So this is compared to their 28 nanometer technology. Oh, okay. Okay, that should be okay.

High performance compute networking though, 60% power reduction with two times the number of cores, greater than three gigahertz maximum speed and 55 area reduction that sounds pretty good so yay yay competition um apparently tsmc is basically at capacity with everything that they're doing for amd and not to mention everyone else right now and the rumor the word on the street is that nvidia is going to have to go to Samsung for their upcoming 3000 series GPUs. So it's pretty clear that we could use another competitor in the cutting edge fab space.

So hopefully Global Foundry's 12 nanometer process is freaking fantastic and gives us more options for cheap computer hardware moving forward or electronics in general. Yeah. Is that it? Would we allow a Shungite promoter on floatplane? See, this is what I'm talking about.

It's hard, isn't it? It's not that simple because the stance that has been put... I don't want i don't want to silence them i believe in free speech and in in that situation someone would have to pay to access their content yep so they clearly they clearly really want it and like you said that if drrespect didn't do anything illegal, that you would take him on the platform. I know he's a promoter.

That's why I looked up Shungite. By the way, you're leaning out of frame again. There we go. No worries. My bad. So I don't know. It's difficult. Because how do you become the arbiter of truth?

Well, I don't expect them to be the arbiter of truth. I expect them to clarify when something hasn't been proven, when it's an unfounded claim. So then on floatplane, would we have to put a notice on every creator that anyone ever claims says something unfounded that they might say things that are unfounded? Because we can't decide what's true, right? I mean, there's disagreements about events in World war ii between like russia and the states yeah for sure and quite frankly i don't trust either of them to give the full story yeah i especially don't trust russia's version of events but that's the whole other conversation yeah um there's literally no debate about shanganite it's obviously false there's no debate to you between you and me

and linus there is no debate there is a debate however there is people that think that it works i don't think it works linus doesn't seem to think that it works you obviously don't think it works. Linus doesn't seem to think that it works. You obviously don't think it works. Someone thinks it works. And like, you know what? Maybe the Shunganite one is a little bit easier, but there are going to be ones that are more complicated. Yeah. Nothing is true.

Everything is perfect. So one of my core values is that your rights end where someone else's begin. And in the case of something like, you know, like, let's say, you know, the problem with like words is that they keep getting, they keep getting warped. They keep getting distorted. So I'm going to say hate speech, but I mean it in the dictionary definition of hate speech, speech that serves no purpose other than to divide and demean. And effectively what your mom told you when you were growing up, don't build yourself up by putting someone else down. That's how I'll define hate speech. So I'm a firm believer in that my right to enjoy my music ends where someone else's right to enjoy their peaceful day begins. And that's how we coexist peacefully and harmoniously and everyone is happy

shungite doesn't really um it doesn't really cross that line for me because unlike the jilly juicer jillian juicer whatever it's called unlike that where there's actual you know bodily harm being caused and you know for me the the value of the yeah but what if and like the 5g coronavirus whatever yeah what if someone like here's here's an example i'm not claiming anyone's doing this but i think shungite is actually too easy of an example so it's it's hurting the argument because there's there's and i can't think of any right now but there's going to be things that are a little bit harder to disprove

than Shungite, because magical healing crystals have been a thing for a long time and people want to go with them all. But let's assume, it talks about 5G and coronavirus, right? 5G, whatever, not too weird. Yeah.

Coronavirus. Let's assume that someone thinks that this will protect you from coronavirus and because of that doesn't wear a mask yep okay so now we're getting into now we're getting into sort of like the you know the the value of uh of a human life right like to me the value of a human life is immeasurable because the only way that you can measure the value of a human life is in other human lives. You know, when someone, when some, some creature, uh, some human creature is, uh, unjustly destroyed, uh, basically what

you're doing is you are taking all of the, all of the time and work and life that someone, whether it was that individual's parents or friends or whatever else, invested into this human being and you are destroying it, you are nullifying it. So to me, that cost is not measurable in any meaningful way because every individual is in a way greater than the sum of every contribution that has been made to every person who contributed to who they are as a person that's the way that i see it fundamentally um and so you know damaging human life whether it is whether it's in the form of uh harming someone so that they're bedridden and cannot enjoy their life

or whether it is killing them or whether it is killing them or whether it is causing them distress or stealing from them like to me stealing material is the same as stealing time because they worked for it and stealing time is stealing life you didn't steal an entire life but you sure stole some of it um as soon as you say, okay, yeah, you know what? This person's irresponsible conspiracy theory spreading is damaging other human life. I go, well, yeah, that's a problem. We should probably fix this. I don't have an easy solution though.

But again, like, so someone in chat and I've paused the scroll on it. So this is from a long time ago, but it was Colonel Sanders 21. This debate about i don't want to silence people is in bad faith action needs to be taken some voices don't need amplification sure but who gets to decide that yeah because what if what if some platform is run by someone who believes in this stuff or believes in something that colonel sanders 21 doesn't like or believes in something that you don't like or believes in something that Colonel Sanders 21 doesn't like or believes

in something that you don't like or believes in something that I don't like? How do you decide that thing? Right now, I believe, again, the person in chat, you and me, are all in agreeance about this topic. But us three don't necessarily represent the entirety of everyone so how do you decide who gets to decide what voices don't need amplification that is a very difficult thing to figure out and nobody wants that difficult answer and measure of harm how do you decide that because the people that believe in the shungite crap yeah might think they're being harmed by suppressing you're harming people by not telling people about shungite which could cure their space aids or whatever yeah and like again i think they're wrong and i think there is

potentially a measure of harm there if i mean, my example of carry the rocks on you so you don't have to wear a mask. I made that up out of nowhere. Yeah, that means nothing. I'm not saying anyone's doing that. But in this fictional scenario, it's not even that far out there, given you can recharge it with moonlight. So like, in this fictional scenario, like, In this fictional scenario, like, yeah, how do you decide which one has more harm? Scientists. Again, we're jumping back to the Jilly Juice conversation. As far as I know, she claimed to be scientific in some way.

She published a book, et cetera, et cetera. So where do you draw the line? And scientists disagree about stuff sometimes. So is this a governmental thing? Does the government decide which side to agree with? Yeah. And hold on a second. It's a really difficult conversation. Who's that,

uh, who's that doctor? Who's that American doctor with the TV show that basically promotes, uh, nonsense, uh, like nonsense cures all the time. Can't remember his name but basically he admitted to just lying

and fabricating like in front of congress at one point yeah dr oz yeah um you know that's one of those cases where you you've literally got this individual admitting to it in front of congress um that they're just a big liar and in it for the money um and yet doesn't he still have a tv show at this point i have no idea uh yep i think so fine oh no final episode date july 26 2020 okay so yes technically the dr oz show is still running as of right now. Great. Yeah, thanks, chat. Thanks, chat.

Chat is now exploding with answers here. It's great. It's brilliant. So that's an example of an actual medical doctor who sold out. Yep. And so unfortunately, we can't just put doctors in charge because doctors are people and people are fallible you know what listen to bodies of experts it's it's this is sorry i mean we could probably talk

about this for yeah for this is an extremely extremely complicated subject i know it seems really simple when you first jump into it but if you really try to discuss action instead of just frustration the conversation starts to become extremely difficult so yeah really though tom cigars in the super chats has the has the real questions here garth brooks where are the bodies buried guys it's a meme okay it's a meme it's a meme just everybody just chill okay uh we should do a couple super chats before we close out the show today i'm just like depressed now because the world is complicated and broken and fixing it is hard ah voodoo child says shout out to my lovely wife who's not really paying attention unless she hears her name alana sup alana okay ro, Old news, Pelce cooler, poor battery life.

Yeah, the stupid Sony cooler. Tom again says, Linus, why did you switch from 3950X to Threadripper? What was the rationale? Because I had to have more SSD speed than the PlayStation 5. PC Master Race for life. That's like, honestly, the flimsy rationale

that I provide in the video that isn't up yet it'll be up soon though um i needed more pci express lanes so that i could put a stupid overpowered ssd in my machine that will make no meaningful difference in real world use that's what i needed to do hey luke do you have your kickstarter hammer yet no cool jackson tint asks hey luke what happened to the floatplane app i reinstalled ios the other day and the app has disappeared luke do you want to get into that i will try to not uh blow up a building um and i will try to not make this take forever but apple basically did not let us update the app in any way apparently Apparently, Jaden figured out

that we would be able to push purely bug fixes because it's not legal or something for them to stop those. And there was some theory about how we'd be able to keep going in that way. But there was issues with a big update that's kind of here. It wouldn't be compatible with that. Basically, they wouldn't

let us continue updating the app because we would not use Apple's in-app payments. We would not use Apple's in-app payments because we operate on pretty thin margins and we literally can't. So that's about it. And I told them that and they were like, okay, well stuff it. So we were left with pretty much no options. Uh, so the,

what we're going to have to do now is push a, a like content viewing only app to the Apple platform. So the Apple platform will have no ability to manage subscriptions. It will have no ability to view any content creators that you aren't already subscribed to. It will have no ability to see payment history or change the subscription type or anything like that.

The only thing you will ever be able to do on the Apple app, unless they change their horrible, in my opinion, illegal policies is view the content from the creators that you have paid for. That is it. We have to make a custom bad app just for Apple. Thanks, Apple. Good job.

Congratulations on making it so that your users get a worse experience. Yep. You, uh, yeah, you'll win. You're the big, you're the big winner here. Uh, all right. Um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, hauling grew says, hi Linus, can you teach me how to do a computer or tech review? Uh, you just, you watch ones that are out there. You kind of figure out what your unique spin on it is and you, you do it. You, the best thing to do is just start doing it and then you'll be really bad at it. Um, and then you'll get better. Uh, pro go-gurt says last year, you said net gear is more enterprise focused, but I think they have a deal with Best Buy because they're the only brand of router available in store. I think I said they were more B2B focused. That doesn't necessarily mean enterprise. Enterprise and business are not necessarily exactly the same thing.

Dave Chapman says, any recommendations on upgrading from a 1080 Ti? I've had the card for three years, but I got the upgrade bug. a 1080 ti i've had the card for three years but i got the upgrade bug um man i would probably wait for 3000 series at this point if the sort of rumored launch period is anything to go by like there's pictures of finished cards out there in the leaks now i'd be surprised if it's more than a few months away so um that's a great time to pick up you know a 2080 ti or something like that uh james says you told me to comment on Beat Saber streams. Where are they? They're on Twitch, not on YouTube. I can't destroy the YouTube channel by streaming Beat Saber.

They're also on Floatplane. And they're also on Floatplane. But unfortunately, I can't have more than one chat thing open in Beat Saber at the same time. Oh, man, what a what a cool like chat streaming integration thing that would be like a chat thing that just like consolidates all your chats so you can multi platform stream really easily yeah um i mean it could be done like super kludgily and manually actually could be it that could be done it could and you could just have like color coding for which platform it came from or like a little icon it'd probably just be one hell of a mess but well yeah but it would be as long as you're not over a

certain size like as long as you're kind of small what's that you have to pay for restream though i think restream apparently might do it really do they support floatplane uh well i think they probably would it's basically the same thing as our restreamer you just have to pay for it monthly i believe oh and then ours is free well sort of oh i understand got it yep say no more okay cool um pricing it's not even that expensive philip rose asks do youtube channels get paid less when viewers with youtube premium listen with the screen off i have have no idea. I would imagine not though. CD says, do you know of any monitors that are 32 to 35 inch 4k G-Sync HDR and 120 plus Hertz primary uses gaming?

Uh, I mean, there's that one from Asus and then the other like Acer equivalent one. I believe those are both 32 inches. Other than that, honestly, I wouldn't go 4k for gaming. Like why? What possible use could you have for a 120 hertz 4k display? What graphics card that's not, you know, gifted to you by an army of angels in the, you know, the Ark of the Covenant is going to be able to run like modern AAA titles at those frame rates at that resolution. Honestly, the Samsung one that, full disclosure, the unboxing was sponsored, but nothing I'm saying right now has anything to do with that deal.

The Samsung one that I unboxed over on Short Circuit, we uploaded that video today. It's 1440p, 32 inches, and ticks all your other boxes. Looks like an outstanding, outstanding option. And it's 240 Hertz, which is pretty sick. Okay, so I just looked for an update on the cold bar hammer and there wasn't one, but someone nine days ago said, I wonder if I'll still be able to give this to my dad

as a gift for Christmas in 2013. Thank you, LTT community, for memeing so hard. That's funny. All right. Thanks, Jacob. As Zeryl says, I think the subscription for features is a way to get more people to buy a luxury car at a lower price and hope that they'll buy access to features down the line yeah that's fair as long as we see lower prices haven't seen any evidence

of that yet uh justin says thank you linus and luke for everything you guys do been a follower since before the langley house hey thank you very very much anthony says there's no algorithm for truth yeah that's fair um i know someone personally that i am a big fan of i like them a lot i respect them deeply and they believe in in ghosts and all this other stuff that i think is crazy it should not be up to me to stop them from getting information about that. And it should not be up to them to stop me from getting information to counter that. I think. Yeah, it's a real shame in it. I remember having the ghost conversation with someone at one point. I was just like, like what i didn't think it was real i thought they were joking for like yeah i think it was years and then eventually ended up figuring

out that i wasn't being trolled and i was like oh yeah okay yeah i had a real tough conversation with someone about uh fortune tellers at one point it's just like oh like what am i supposed to what am i supposed to tell you like i i at one point i i went from sort of uh patiently explaining to i think part of part of my problem and i think part of a lot of people's problem is that it's very easy to fall into mocking because you're getting out of the frame again by the way it's very easy to fall into mocking because it's like the idea that there's just magical clairvoyant people that can see the future is ridiculous um like it's actually straight out of harry potter you know oh you're getting to mocking. I know. See, I did it already. No!

The very definition of the word ridiculous is worthy of ridicule. And I think that's, you know, it's a big part of why, you know, we can't agree because the more we mock and ridicule each other, the more we're divided. I remember I was watching one of my favorite late night hosts and they did a bit on Jeff Sessions where they did his voice, but only sort of his voice. It was clear what they were doing was a mocking Southern accent. And I was watching this and what was really striking to me about it, I forget who it was, unfortunately, and what was really striking to me about it, I forget who it was, unfortunately, but what was really striking to me about it was the words they were saying were a message of reconciliation and understanding, but they were

doing it in a clearly mocking tone of voice that would identify them as an enemy before anyone would ever actually stop and internalize the words that were coming out of their mouth. Like it was extraordinarily disrespectful. And it's like, yeah, we're just we're clearly never going to come together on this as long as we present our points of view in a way that makes fun of each other. It's like, yeah, you know, I'm sorry. This is real bad news. Ghosts aren't real. But, um, you know, at the end of the day, if that's something that you choose to believe because it gives you closure over the passing of a loved one, or because it explains, uh, you know, some kind of, uh, episode you went through where you believe you saw something like that. And, you know, that's what,

that's what helps you come to terms with it or whatever the case may be. It's like, it's not really any of my business to interfere with that, I suppose. You know, I can say like, you know, sorry, there's no, there's no irrefutable evidence that it's real. But it becomes becomes you know sort of a circular argument right because they can turn around and go well there's no irrefutable evidence that it's not real and then you can kind of go well did you ever take like a like a 100 level yeah like 100 level philosophy course it's like because i took half of one and even I managed to get far enough to know that the burden of proof's on you. HTC148, I'm going to show this comment. It was automatically flagged. You can tell Linus thinks

he's a libtard, but he's a hypocritical capitalist. No, no, I'm just someone who thinks it's not as simple as either of those things. I don't firmly fall into a right-wing, left-wing, capitalist, socialist camp. I mean, I'm a business owner, obviously. I believe in some of the merits of capitalism, but I also proudly pay my taxes to my disgusting, horrible, socialist Canadian government and evade and avoid none of them.

To jump on your disgusting, horrible, socialist Canadian government thing that you just mentioned. Yeah. The commenter is probably American and our political systems don't even fall in line with theirs. Yeah. Like our prominent right wing political organization disagrees with the american prominent right-wing political organization on lots of things so like yeah i love this ever rope says filthy centrist i i own it i'll take it i love it i love it moses says lin just stop. You're losing for nothing. I'm not losing anything.

What am I losing? Nothing. All I'm saying is it ain't simple. And if you think it's simple, you're wrong. No matter which way you think it's simple. Riveyas says, hey, Luke, last February, I emailed Floatplane asking to join the platform. I was told by Dan it might not be a good fit.

Best way to find out if that has changed would be to probably send another email. A quick look at your channel would suggest that it's probably not a great fit if YouTube is your primary platform, just because it's more designed as a supplemental income stream for established creators whether it's on other social media or on youtube and it doesn't look like you're that established but if i'm misinterpreting yeah this is a kind of difficult thing to explain through text so the emails that get responded are i think good um but good because we have to use a little bit less examples. But like, Flowplane is not a discovery platform and will often include

some amount of additional work. Flowplane is positioned to make it so that there isn't a ton of additional work, but there is some amount of additional work. Even just uploading the video and setting a title is an amount of additional work. And you might decide to do some exclusive content. LTT has been releasing some really cool exclusive content on Flowplane recently. That's additional work, et cetera, et cetera. And if you're a relatively small creator at this time, all potential work should go into growth and float plane is not a growth platform. So we,

we highly suggest that you focus on, on YouTube or whatever your other main platform is as you probably won't be successful on float plane right now. And it would take away from your, your work towards growth. Once you become larger, the pool of work will become a little bit smaller. These things will start becoming

a little bit second nature to you as you've been doing it for a long time. And the potential of the financial gain is good because you can reinvest that into your business in the way of hardware, cameras, things you might need, staff, et cetera, which can lead to growth in other ways um all right what else do we have here no that's pretty much it wow this was a really long land

show so thanks for tuning in guys this has been a very unusual show i'm sure the like dislike ratio is going to be terrible because the thing about um you know saying it's not that easy is you make absolutely everybody mad so uh i'm i'm ready for that you know what i'm just not even going to read the comments on this when show i'm just gonna have i'm just gonna have a nice weekend got some great videos scheduled for this weekend. So let's see what's coming out. Oh, yeah. We got the Yongnuo. I think I pronounced it wrong.

Andy's been trying to coach me on how to pronounce words in Chinese. So we've got the Yongnuo. I think I'm saying it wrong again. Android camera. It's like a camera, but with a phone built into it instead of a phone with a camera built into it super weird interchangeable lenses and everything um got a really cool video coming uh that riley worked on where we're gaming this is it's so dumb we have lap there's a laptop that a gaming laptop with two screens and he set it up so that we had

one controller one input and we have to play both of the games against each other at the same time and the games are rocket league and then some weird dragon ball z side scroller fighting game that's not fair he plays rocket league all the time that's what i said and i had never even heard of the dragonball game i've seen him play rocket league at work on his lunch breaks constantly he's actually good at it yeah that's not fair at all totally unfair but i i will i will accept any challenge i'll accept any any challenge i'm always down to i'm always down for a friendly competition so those videos are coming up this weekend so i will look forward to uh seeing y'all over there all right thanks for tuning in guys hope you enjoyed the show today see you again next week same bad time

same bad channel bye oh yeah and you can buy our special shungite smoothie over on shungitesmoothies.com thank you very much check discord real quick i should make sure that shungitesmoothies.com doesn't already exist oh actually we probably should um i am not really in a position to comment on this other than to say that it's an obvious tragedy and as someone who spends a lot of time in the public eye and actually i was just talking about how uh sometimes tuning into a bunch of just hateful uh poisonous comments can be can be damaging uh but luke um i uh yeah daniel t posted in the chat a while back any thoughts on the recent news of wreckful luke actually had the pleasure of meeting him um so i guess it's probably better for uh him to talk about it i didn't like we weren't we weren't friends or anything i just met him in

passing once um i just know you followed him as well and like you're huge into the wow community in the early days and now and and he was an amazing player and also just a super nice dude and i think a very positive part of that community for a very long time and a positive part of the the streaming community for a very long time as well um he he i don't never know the correct words to use in these situations he he passed away very recently uh he he did commit suicide um extremely shortly after proposing over Twitter, which I don't know where to go with this. Some people have theorized that the comments that he received for proposing over Twitter helped drive him in that direction. He had some issues that were quite public for a long time. He had done, which I think this is actually super cool and like a really interesting and

good idea, but he had done like therapy streams where he met with a therapist in the past. So this was not, this was not a secret or, or hidden thing by any means. Someone in chat said, did she say yes,

as far as my understanding goes, which is limited on this subject. Um, she didn't even see it in time. Uh, so she saw that and heard of his passing at like pretty much the same time, which has got to be super, super rough. Um, the, she didn't know. Yeah. The whole situation is very rough. Maybe listen to me less and go look into it. Yeah, she was asleep. Yeah. But yeah, it's unfortunate. There was a bunch of memorials. Basically, every server, as far as I know, retail and classic had some form of memorial, which was actually pretty cool.

Yeah, it's rough. Just keep in mind when you're online that bandwagoning someone can actually be really rough. And just because someone has a big following doesn't necessarily mean that they have the thickest skin. I think Linus and I do fairly well in that regard um it's not always easy but it's it's not always easy um it gets hard sometimes especially when you're like already internally uh beating yourself up for something uh when when the community gangs up on you for it it sucks or if there's something that the community doesn't necessarily know is really like personal to you for some reason yeah um

that can that can really suck as well so i get really frustrated when you know i make an honest mistake and you know uh do what i can to correct it you know i can't change a youtube video so you know i'll put a comment i'll pin a comment that's like, hey, by the way, we made this mistake. And, you know, every other comment on the video is why is nobody talking about this? It's like you literally scrolled past the pinned comment about what you're talking about to say that nobody it's like, here you are criticizing me for missing something. And you missed the most obvious thing I could possibly put in front of your face. And the hypocrisy of that one drives me absolutely bananas. Um, you know, generally speaking,

what I find is one of the best ways of reducing toxicity going back to the early days of starting out as a YouTuber is, or has been to completely ignore it. Um the problem with that is that it doesn't really, it doesn't really, it doesn't really show other members of the community that it's like, yeah, we're all struggling with this. And it's something that we all go through. And that it's not easy. I think it makes people think that it is easy and that it's not a big deal and that what they're saying and doing doesn't matter and that there's not a human on the other end of it but there absolutely is yeah and you never you never really know what

what people are are going through. Um, I'm trying to look up like, like Robin Williams. Yep. Um, I would have had, maybe some people knew I had no idea at all that he had any issues with anything. He seemed like the happiest person in the world to me. Um, so you, you have, you have you have no clue um and i'm not i'm not at all to be very clear that saying that you can't you can't criticize things or whatever but when you're when you're just going in on someone just consider the the potential impacts and try to be a little nicer especially in these extremely trying times the world is crazy right now um just try to spread some some happiness instead of some sadness yeah even someone who's like super toxic um i would suggest not bandwagon hating on them it's not constructive thanks guys yeah Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok