The WAN Show - Nvidia 3000 Series IS COMING - WAN Show Sept 4, 2020

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

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That took us a moment. Hey, guys. We have fantastic news this week. Mostly, we're probably going to spend a pretty significant part of the show talking about the new NVIDIA 3000 series announcement. We've been talking about the rumors for this for what feels like 10,000 years. And it's finally freaking here. There's some good news.

There's some things I'm going to complain about because I complain about things. Oh, really? And we'll go from there. Also, Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold 2 uh apparently looks fantastic we'll dive more into that later riley got anything great and the intel also took the wraps off their uh tiger lake in what's it called 11th gen mobile this week so we can probably talk about that yes and happy 35th anniversary to nintendo so hooray they often do fun stuff around their anniversary so that's that's cool uh super mario bros 35 battle royale okay fantastic yeah man anyways intro time i'm most excited to do it hit it it did work that's

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okay love all those guys we're back back at you to talk about all things ampere uh so i'm gonna fire through a lot of the general notes here pretty quick, and then we can dive into deliberation between the two of us. Unless you've been living under a rock, and like seriously, if you're in the tech community, I think that's rather true. You've probably heard about the announcement from NVIDIA of their new lineup of desktop GPUs. The 3080 will be coming September 17th. That's like right around the corner. 3090 September 24th, and the 3070 will be coming September 17th, that's like right around the corner, 3090 September 24th, and the 3070 will be coming in October. It's built on what NVIDIA is calling a Samsung 8nm node called 8n. There's a few things in here that I'm like, I'm actually quite genuinely appreciative that

they didn't get too creative with the names because it's pretty straightforward. The 3080 and 3090 have Micron's new super fast GDDR6X memory that can transfer twice as much data per clock thanks to a coding format called PAM4. Previous GDDR specs used traditional binary for data transmission for two bits per cycle, while PAM4, again, thanks for not being way too creative, I actually appreciate it, can send four. All cores have seen a big boost in performance, which is fantastic. NVIDIA claims shaders and tensor cores improved by 2.7 fold and ray tracing cores by up to 1.7 fold. A bunch of new technologies were also launched, namely NVIDIA Reflex.

This sounds super cool, which promises to greatly reduce system latency, as well as allow end users to visualize input latency all the way through the chain from click to output. That is very cool. NVIDIA Broadcast, an AI powered voice and video broadcasting app that applies effects on camera and microphone inputs and exposes virtual outputs for OBS and other streaming applications.

NVIDIA OmniSense Machinima, which provides a whole new host of tools to create. You're just going through these like crazy. The notes on this are like a page and a half long. Yeah, there's a lot to talk about, for sure. So I'm trying to get us through it. Keep going. OmniSense Machinima, which provides a whole host of new tools to create more game engine videos. Cool.

RTXIO, which allows direct access to high-speed storage by the GPU with hardware-accelerated decompression, similar to the way that the PS5 works. Minor shots fired. Now individual specs. The 3090, this is supposed to kind of be a replacement for the Titan, though they did call it a 3090. The 90 moniker has always been kind of reserved for somewhat special cards. I don't know if they're recycling Titan, but we'll get more into that. It has 10,496 CUDA cores, which is actually just kind of absurd. It also has 24 gigabytes of that GDDR6X memory that we mentioned earlier,

clocking in at 19.5 gigabits per second, resulting at 939 gigabytes per second of maximum bandwidth. Wow. Which is nuts. Yeah. You can do 8K gaming. With a bunch of settings on, like RTX. That's messed up.

That's messed up. That's not, it's unnatural. It's illegal. It's not allowed. I didn't think we would get there. Okay, keep going. Like ever? I didn't think we would get there. Okay, keep going. Like, ever?

You didn't think we were going to get there ever? Oh, well, not in my lifetime. No, I don't know. I mean, I feel like we only just got to 4K gaming really, like, what? Three years ago? Two years ago? Three, four years ago? On the line, even. A lot of the top-end cards had issues. The last few years years let's say that

yeah for sure um now we're at eight day that card is going to retail for 1499 us dollars which like hurts my soul the fact that uh some people that are going to play legal legends are going to go buy that graphics card um but i i i hope not i don't think the majority of people should be aiming for that card. The more spicy cards are what's coming down the line. The 3080, 700 US dollars, 8,704 CUDA cores. Absurd. The RTX 2080 only had about a third of that at 2944 CUDA cores. It has 10 gigabytes of GDDR6X memory across a 320-bit bus, maximum bandwidth of 790 gigabytes per second. For context... 60. Oh, right. 760, sorry.

That's why I'm here. Slightly dyslexia on that one. For context, the 2080 Ti does 616 gigabytes per second. The Titan does 672. NVIDIA claims the 380 will double the 2080's performance, placing it well above the performance level of an RTX 2080 Ti at half the price. That's just rude. Although we're going to talk about that in a second too because the prices of those cards have been very interesting over the last little bit. Right, yeah.

Well, now it's not even... let's let's talk about that now yeah why not there's there's i mean oh yeah i don't know what i saw some 2080 ti's going on ebay or whatever for like 300 300 bucks. That's interesting. So this is why Linus every once in a while talks about like when he would exchange cards. We talk about the buying and selling that we both used to do a lot more when we were younger. And one of the strategies was to sell your card before the announcement. And I think this is the strongest reason why like ever uh because if you sold your 2080 ti before this announcement you probably would have gotten like around or a little bit higher than a thousand dollars and now you're going to get around 300 it's wild i mean and i'm i you know i didn't i'm not quite

in that exact position but we just did this uh intel upgrade thing and i got a 2080 super as part of it when i was really happy about it i was like sweet i had like a i had i was running a 970 before that gtx 970 so like 2080 super is a huge step up i got an ultra wide monitor 3440 by 1440 i was like so excited and it's you should still be excited it's yeah i am excited it'll be it'll be fine still but like you know i having this is the first time that i've really had a high-end part right when something launched and it doesn't feel great that's i mean it makes first world problems but like geez this this free graphics card is really just bugging me man i just i can't handle it i know well there was a budget it wasn't free enough i mean i just mean if we did my video like a month later, I could have had the new card

Mmm So I think I was like, I'm lucky to get the early one. But is there is there anyone down the line from you? Who's next? Yeah, I forget who's next they should make them do it. They should make them do it on like September 14th Right because when what's the dates they're all they all come at different dates yeah september 17th to the 3080 24th for the 3090 october for the 3070 they should make them do it one thing that i wanted wednesday video release on the 16th that'd be ridiculous uh one thing that i did want to bring up is the fact that these cuda cores

you know we're making a big deal about how they're like oh it's more than twice the amount of cuda cores for some of them or whatever but i saw a thing and i'm completely unqualified to talk about this so maybe people in the chat i don't know or maybe you do uh the cores aren't like exactly the same like they're not like they don't map one to one in terms of performance do you know anything about that uh sure let's check it out sorry about the bird i don't know how loud that's coming through i'm just reading off of a reddit post by you la la la philip you got a bird in there dude i do i do sorry if it's coming through now he came over um and he like sat on this perch that's on my desk and i reached my arm up so that he could like jump on my arm so i could show the show but i'm wearing these fancy new uh ltd edition sweatpants and i think he was like

what the heck and just took off i I'm wearing them too. Oh, my. Getting dressed on Wancho. By our powers combined. Anyways, that's for later. You la la la Philip on the hardware subreddit. I just saw this during my news gathering. Hardware subreddit. I just saw this during my, like, news gathering.

He's like, in Turing and Volta, each SM subcore can execute one 32-wide bundle of instructions per clock. However, it can only complete 16 FB32 operations per clock. But Ampere has moved back to executing 32 FB32 operations per SM subcore per clock. Okay? So if you are in the chat and you know anything about what I just said, that's a good point. I have no idea what I just said. I think something to tie into that. And I'm going to, I'm going to actually just quickly

fire through the 3070 notes and then I'll jump into this more. But yeah. Okay. So just hold that thought for a second. The 3070, it should have 2080 Ti levels of performance for 500 bucks. It'll have 5888 CUDA cores. The 2080 has 4352 and should have a higher clock speed as well, delivering better performance for less than half the price, which is pretty awesome.

It's targeted squarely at the console market with that pricing um i i don't know how much i agree with that there's a note that says or because we don't know the exact pricing and it's rumored to be high it might actually undercut the consoles i mean yeah for just the graphics card um i don't think that's i mean but that's an interesting systems out that's an interesting angle at it though because like i think that most people don't expect that amd is going to come out with cards in the fall that compete with a nvidia on the high end yeah or i mean who knows uh their their last card the 5600600-5700 XT, was like, it was okay. And it was like, it was impressive.

But I think that specifically given the timing of this launch and the fact that there is consoles coming out in a few months or less than a few months, it's... There is the... Speaking of AMD, AMD has teased RDNA 2 in a Fortnite Easter egg in the AMD Battle Arena map, which I didn't know was a thing.

Simply stating something big is coming to the AMD Battle Arena, unlocked by entering the code 6000 while playing, which is almost certainly a reference to the naming scheme for those cards. a reference to the naming scheme for those cards. So one of my big things here that has been driving me nuts, and I tried to be spicy in a tweet, and it didn't really hit home all that well. One, because I forgot that I guess I bought my first car a very long time ago, and inflation has happened. So I tried to make a comment about that and

that didn't hit home super well. And I mentioned that like they've been increasing the release dates and that's sort of, but also not sort of true. So like the five 80 came out November 9th, kind of end of the year, 2010, uh, six 80 came out March, 2012, seven 80 came out May, 2013, nine 80 came out March 2012, 780 came out May 2013, 980 came out September 2014. We're seeing mostly year after year releases through 580, 680, 780, 980. Then the 980 Ti comes out in June of 2015. And this sets a little bit of a trend.

The 1080 comes out in May of 2016. the 1080 comes out in May of 2016. And then we don't see 2080 for a while because the 1080 CI then comes out in March of 2017. 2080 comes out in September 2018. We don't see 3080 for a while. They released the 2080 in, 2080 Super, sorry, in July of 2019. Then we finally see the 3080.

So one of my comments was like, yeah, it's not super hard to make like fantastic generational leaps when you release things so spread apart. But that's not super accurate because they've been releasing things fairly spread apart for a while now. They just didn't used to. Yeah. But you're like, oh, well, we're not on a yearly thing anymore. And I'm like, I don't think it's been that for a little bit. Yeah, it's been a little while. It hasn't been that many generations, but it has been quite a few years. No, no.

Because they've slowed it down so much. Yeah, I think like the 700 series and the 900 series were like, oh, wait. But that was kind of confusing because they kind of skipped the 800 series and it was mobile only. The 7 and the 9 were really close. Yeah, yeah. It was once we started getting into the four digit series like transitioning from nine to one thousand and one thousand to two thousand and two thousand to three thousand have all been these like big jumps with a ti in between essentially um i mean to talk about your tweet about the car for fifteen

hundred dollars i mean that's not you can you can find like scrapper you still sort of can yeah it just would have been a lot easier like 10 years ago it would just be like a really bad car yeah yeah that's all you need gets you point a to b yeah i got one response to somebody who was like my first car was like fifty thousand dollars i was like okay calm down um but lucky person but the the, I guess I was trying to make, regardless of how well that tweet actually hit, um, was like, I'm just, I don't, I don't think the, the excitement and the, the braggartness is, is warranted. It's, it's been a pretty big gap. Okay.

That's been a trend for a little while now, but it has been a pretty big gap since the last card. And 2000 series was a massive disappointment. Was it? If you remember the talks around 2080 Ti and RTX when it first came out, there was that, I believe it was Tom's article, talking about, do you want to live uh any amount of your life without rtx and everyone was like no i don't care and almost all the reviewers recommended that people don't really buy it like it was it didn't really hit home all that well um and then they're following up that launch with like an actual improvement it didn't

hit home well because nvidia puts such a heavy emphasis on ray tracing and how it's the future and like blah blah and then it turns out that okay you get a huge performance penalty and it looks really nice but like you can basically play you're like single player games like four days you know 100 fps or whatever you're playing like 1080p 30 but like in a very small amount of performance for for non-ray traced games i thought i don't know it was like it was definitely a huge jump in performance was it not uh i think the community moved to it mostly because the 10 000 or the yeah the 1000 series cards were were cycled out and you might as well buy the new things that price replaced them it wasn't i don't think it was like this massive leap uh so i think it's easier to jump from it wasn't it wasn't it

wasn't this type of leap for sure yeah well okay that's the other thing i want to talk about getting excited is cool but i really don't like the response personally that has happened to the 3000 series cards and i think that's where i tried to like lash out with my not very well written tweet people getting excited about things luke i don't like this type of excitement this feels to me um like people getting super hyped for games and pre-ordering them as fast as they can people are fire selling their 2080Ti's. People are like if you look on Reddit, if you look on Twitter, it's like the second coming of the graphics cards. Like everyone is 1000% certain that this is going to be the greatest thing that has ever seen the face of the planet. That is made out of metal and silicon and goes in your computer. Like, it's crazy.

And it's entirely based off of NVIDIA's claims. Which, like, it just, like, how have we not learned from this? That's the interesting thing is that normally with these launches, they come out and they're like, oh, can you believe it? It doubled the performance. Oh, it's the most cuticores you've ever seen in a freaking thing. Oh, blah, blah, blah. But Digital Foundry actually had their hands on

it and they actually put out some independent performance numbers and it's not like a full review but it definitely served to kind of like at least sort of be like hey this isn't all just marketing that does help a lot it looked like and it helps a lot that it's digital foundry uh yeah specifically because we've we've gotten a lot of good stuff from them in the past and i think they're they're cool and they do really good content. And also it's unfair because like why did they get the freaking card first? Yes. Rude.

Yes. I would hope that people would reserve more judgment. And again, it does help that Digital Foundry is there. But I would hope that people would reserve a little bit more judgment until it's out. At least in the hands of reviewers honestly preferably though in the hands of customers as well like it's i think so i i hey i'm totally with you i hate pre-ordering games i say i tell everybody like don't pre-order anything ever basically because it's offensive to me uh who i feel like. I feel like I'm pretty frugal with my money.

I don't really go and buy things for myself that often. So when I see people pre-ordering a new phone or something, I'm like, just settle down. Just all calm down here. But in this case, I don't think you can even pre-order it. I think that's one of the interesting things about this launch is that they're not allowing people to... Are you am i frozen no okay you were just i was looking at something sorry really great job holding it i don't think i don't think you're allowed to uh

i don't think you're allowed to pre-order these i think they have basically there's some rules where you can kind of like pre-order on the day of release sort of yeah I mean, that's that's probably gonna be a bit of a thing because I'm looking at the hype There's almost certainly gonna be stock issues Right and we've seen that in the past and I wouldn't be surprised if miners try to get their hands on them as well So like there's probably gonna be quite the dash for purchasing these I haven't dove way too far into the Digital Foundry video. Someone's trying to say they did Doom Eternal at 4k max settings and a 2080 was benched against it. 2080 only has

eight gigabytes of memory and Doom Eternal can have issues at those settings when you have eight gigabytes of memory so there's like i don't know i haven't dove into it but one of my things like digital foundry is great i have nothing against digital foundry at all but have always said even when i was doing reviews if you watch me if you watch they're trying to say bye i guess if you watch like when i was making reviews if you watched my review i would making reviews if you watched my review i would highly recommend that you check out other people's as well because there's like always different ways of of testing things and looking at things and you should cross examine wait a second linus let you review a graphics card one at one point in time he never because he never let me review on is it does anthony does

those right yeah but like i'm i'm right here i sit um that was the first i think that was the first segment in the system just you just gotta plug it in the system and just play some games like yeah that's it for sure yeah like i can play doom eternal at 4k at max settings that's no like that doesn't seem hard at all i used to uh i used to be really really into finding benchmarking segments that i thought were really good and like encapsulated a bunch of the different uh things that would stress that card in that game uh and i i used to release videos about these benchmarking segments. Like there's a video of how you can benchmark your own system

on Far Cry 3 using the benchmarking run that I used. There was a video about that. It did terribly. No one cared. But I used to like love this stuff. But Linus never wanted to like pay me to play video games

until I could find a segment that I thought was good. So I used to do it on my stream after work. And it would be the most boring streams ever because I'd get to a segment of the game that I thought was pretty good. And then I'd just play it like 10 times over and over and over again

to see how repetitive I could make it. Can I make this really consistent every time because it has to be yeah that's the same engaging content dude it was beautiful hashtag content but yeah i i just like genuinely this is nothing against digital foundry i think they're fantastic they've released a ton of really great content i'm reading a lot of hostility. No, there's none. Um, but wait till more reviewers get to see it. Wait, wait till maybe some users, if you're not a hundred percent sure, get to see it. Like, like just it reserve your judgment a little bit. The amount of hype that I've seen out there is kind of wild. Um, and I, I get it. We've been, the community as a whole these days is a little

starved for new releases. Like I was talking about back in the day, we used to get graphics card releases all the time. We used to get CPU releases all the time. We used to get everything else under the sun. There was new stuff coming out super, super often, all the time, all the time. So it's fun. It's exciting. I get that. But don't, don't like, I just, I worry because some people get caught up in hype really, really easily. And I don't want someone to spend $1,500 on a 3090 because they think they need it. And like, I've seen a lot of posts like, and I know they're being sarcastic, but they're like, oh, I guess my 2080 ti is garbage now

it's like well no it's not if you spent the money on a 2080 ti maybe you're mr ballin and you don't care and you're just gonna buy a new one anyways but like it's it's still gonna be really good i know people who have like you know them you know them personally and and they go and buy a 3090 or or um you know like a titan in the past and they had just have absolutely no business buying that it's like you you have literally no reason to buy that you could do just well with like a 20 like a 70 series you have no okay wow a thousand percent because you know maybe there are tons of when i when i talk about like the hype for these things, and I'm like, I'm hyped myself because I'm like,

whoa, that is a huge performance jump. I think I'm just imagining that people like... You know, at the same time, I don't know, because a lot of people in the writer's room here, when they... I think Andy came around and did a float plane exclusive video, and he was asking everybody, hey, are you going to get a 3080 or whatever?

Are you going to get a 3000 series? and almost everyone here said they're gonna get either a 3080 or a 3090 or i think one of them i think nicholas said he was gonna get two 3080s i'm like why would you do that the si sucks like it's like i'm the guy who's like all right where right, where's the price to performance? I want the best bang for the buck situation. Yes, thank you. See, that's great. And you're going to get those better price to performance outlooks

once more reviewers have it in hand. And there is things to genuinely be excited about. The on-paper performance is fantastic. And the stuff that Digital Foundry pushed out, great. It looks awesome. And like pushing the industry forward is great. Doesn't mean that you necessarily need to buy one. Oh, no, for sure.

I know of people that will run like 20 TIs and the 1080p monitors. And they're not like, they're not running like 240 hertz. Yes. They're not running like 240 hertz. Yes. They're not running like 240 hertz crazy stuff, gaming at an insane level. They're just like, I just need the, I need the cool new thing that everyone's all hyped up about. That's gotta be a minority though.

Hey, hey guys in the chat. I'm sorry if you're running a 2880 TI on a 1080p monitor, you know, and it's not like 240 hertz or something. Dude, I know people that have 20, I think he has a 2080. He doesn't have an ssd oh dear like there's there's a lot of and i'm working on these people yeah hey don't mean to shame people who boot off hard drives you know it's like you use what you got but for sure you

bought a you had you had enough to buy a 2080 that's not a balanced system that's where i'm that's where i'm going at like it's it's yeah like if i if you're if you're booting off a hard drive if you're making it work if you're having fun if you're interested in your computer that's where that's where i'm going at like it's it's yeah like if i if you're if you're booting off a hard drive if you're making it work if you're having fun if you're interested in your computer that's fantastic not ragging on you at all um but like i mean uh kyle actually has a fantastic video um bitwit on on floatplane i don't know if it's out on youtube yet check out his floatplane go subscribe uh but it's like specking out a system. I believe it's with a 3080. I think he might have one with a 3070 that might be on YouTube now. I'm not sure. But it's actually really good. And one of the things that he talks about in the intro is like, okay, I could have taken the previous build that

I did with the cheaper graphics card and just plunked in the new graphics card and been like, well, it's $200 more. That was an easy video. But that's not really how you should probably plan things. If you're going to spend more money on a computer, you should kind of holistically bring everything up. And I agree with that. So just consider these things. Just be excited for it for sure but don't don't forget your brain um and only bring your wallet just you know what we should do you know

what that means uh in order to make sure everyone has balanced systems uh linus tech tips just has to make everyone a pc who who asks for it they're like please i just want a game please my parents won't give me a laptop please make me a pc we just have to do it for everybody to ensure that this doesn't happen you know you know what would actually be really funny is if you guys did actually do it one time although you'd be setting yourself up everyone a pc no like one person like one of the random people that asked he's like you know what sure you get one one a month oh wow that would actually be quite one a year

oh sorry wow that was too much you should you should 12 pcs you could get a sponsor for that i don't know whatever i'm gonna get off this topic there's more things to talk about video out of this um as we already talked about the reflex reflex go for it yeah you know about that yeah that's another crazy thing because i i feel like with each of these graphics cards launches they try to make it interesting right like yes uh the last one obviously was ray tracing and that was the big deal dlss and the sharpening and all that but this time they have that crazy performance jump and they also have i feel like each one of these extras that they kind of threw in there actually has some value it's not just kind of like we reduced jaggies by 30 percent that has value

uh but yeah i agree well whatever reflex and broadcast slightly different anti-aliasing method you know yeah but this one it's like there are concrete things that they've added that are actually interesting like nvidia reflexes could uh their technology could reduce latency, system latency, total input latency. It's so cool to me. I think in 30 milliseconds in some cases. Whoa, okay. It's so cool to me too, that they're going to let you visualize input latency

throughout the chain. That is super valuable. Just in case you have something that's dragging you back, you can fix that. You can identify it. Yeah, Reflex sounds super cool to me. Nvidia broadcasts, sounds cool. have something that's that's dragging you back you can fix that that's that's yeah reflex sounds super cool to me nvidia broadcasts sounds cool they've been doing really quite quite a great job with their suite of broadcast stuff over the years um voice kind of like the next step in that progression yeah rtx voice is great um nvidiaiverse, like all this stuff seems really cool.

They've been killing it in the like additional cool software things department for quite a while now. Yeah. And unfortunately I feel like that is the one thing where AMD has been lacking. Like I'm cheering for AMD as much as the next guy, you know, the success of Verizon, I've cheered it on from day one. But it's just, it's sad because still in graphics cards,

they're just, they're not, they haven't had that Ryzen level success yet. And maybe this RDNA 2 is the one that hits it out of the park. But yeah, you got to say about NVIDIA, though, they had to, they came up with this reflex technology and they had to say, okay, but we're going to put a module in certain monitors that makes them the special monitors that has the reflex. They couldn't just like, you know, we have to find a way to sell these modules and monitors. Like, right after we got through this whole G-Sync thing and be like, now now we need a new one yeah we need a new one uh yeah it's and from the amd side of things you are much more just buying like the performance of the card um and if they can beat them on price performance that might be really interesting for people because i can

as cool as these features are and I will definitely back up that they are cool a Massive percentage of the audience is never gonna use and video broadcast NVIDIA Omniverse machinima Like all that kind of stuff even in video reflex for a lot of people I think is gonna be a cool like click the button see it go Well, there's nothing I can really do about that anyways and then move on um so i i yeah no absolutely i mean like there there is a level on which all of this is kind of

all these extra features are fluff for sure they're they're really really nice premium features that i appreciate a lot and i'm sure other people appreciate a lot but yeah premium features for a premium gpu that's nvidia click below with your green background right now lttstore.com hey as long as we're killing yeah we might as well might as well go for it i'm gonna i'm gonna you know what i didn't even i didn't even put on the yeah i'm going for it too oh man did i even put the oh oh nice how well did that do the headphones actually go wow this is actually pretty it like got more comfortable when i put the headphones on yeah i don't know why i can see myself gaming like this i feel like naruto

i feel like i need to play a fighting game right now this is fantastic um the the two wristbands and the headband head headband uh the two wristbands and the headband are 100 cotton uh and they cost 9.99 lttstore.com 9.99 for the whole the headband the whole shebang yeah i'm gonna try to see if i can it seemed like it was like a setup that seemed like we had set up that moment i'm like wait 9.99 you kidding me i actually didn't know that was the price. This isn't working. What, me? No, no, no, sorry. My side of things.

There. What happened? Sorry, I'm trying to do ghetto marketing. There we go. Perfect. What are you doing? You will not have seen that. You'll see it on the stream in a little bit if you have it open. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Okay, now I need to go to the stream. I have no idea what you're talking about yes no i don't have an extra streaming anywhere because my laptop sucks apparently yes it has still been lagging a little bit nine dollars 99 cents usd get all three of them uh build your next pc in style and wipe the sweat off as you deal with the heat of that 350 watt 390 that you're definitely buying to use Facebook and play Fortnite. Moving forward. Luke, you can't even see what I'm doing on my camera. Can you do it again? No, the moment is past all right all right all right um so much more to talk about oh my gosh there's so much more i want to talk to you about luke oh my like what the end like the intel tiger lake 11th gen mobile release okay are we are we moving forward before that

i wanted to ask you uh if this is what being a streamer feels like because uh normally on the wan show i've when i've been on the wan show it's like a set and we're sitting there together it's like that's not like streaming but now we're like it's like we're on a discord call yes i might as well be playing league of legends in the background while we're talking about this like i feel very streamery I think the biggest problem I'm having with this show is I think your laggy laptop. Cause I think, uh, there,

there's like vocal lag through discord and we're talking over each other a little bit. Sometimes we're definitely talking over each other. There's a bunch of, there's a bunch of delay. Yes. Um, but okay.

Tiger Lake, let's go mobile. Well, it's a yeah i just i just pasted this in without any of the actual details none of it but i can kind of talk about it off the top of my head because i remember when we did this with tech link fantastic um so this is all mobile it's uh it's designed for thinning lights so it's kind of like what all these parts are kind of like the U variant. But they're but they're kind of switching things up for this one. These are all like they all end in G7. Hold on.

Let me bring up the link. It's 11th gen. They all come with Z graphics built in and the big the big interesting thing there is that um intel z graphics uh in gaming can outperform the ryzen 7 4800u which is like also the thin and light part on amd side and nvidia's mx 350 discrete graphics card i mean it's it's that's like the lowest end one or whatever but um in terms of gaming, apparently, the Z graphics on the 11th gen is going to be pretty good. Integrated.

Can you just not hear me at all? I can't. No, I can't. I'm trying to like, I don't have desktop capture, so I just moved the chart of performance stuff over your window, and I'm trying to like move it along with you while you're talking so please continue oh wow well that's pretty much it okay oh wait oh project athena so i don't know if you've heard of project athena no okay that was their kind of their like it was like the successor to the ultrabook initiative

that was their kind of their like it was like the successor to the ultrabook initiative so oh yes okay yeah ultrabook thing to be like hey thin and light laptops this is a new standard and now like you know when you have a thin and light laptop you call it an ultrabook basically and project athena was like the next step in that so that things would be thin and light but they'd also like boot quickly and maybe they'd have 5g and that kind of thing. They'd be more like smartphones. And so that's been renamed now to Intel Evo. Why are you laughing at me? I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at someone in chat. Keep going.

What'd they say? They're laughing at me because they said Luke, very manly man, can't hear and move mouse at the same time. That's fair. they said Luke, very manly man, can't hear and move mouse at the same time. That's fair. That's fair.

I was just very concentrated. That's fair. Multitasking isn't a traditionally masculine trait. I get multitask for crap. Oh my goodness. That was funny. Sorry. And then, of course, every notebook maker under the sun, Asus, Acer, MSI, all these guys announced like 11th gen versions of the laptops.

But I think that one of the issues is that we're not seeing a price for those. And obviously we don't have full performance numbers yet because it's just the reveal, but this is kind of an interesting answer to AMD's laptop parts that just released earlier this year. So we'll have to see whether this is good enough to kind of like get Intel back on the right track here. on the right track here. I mean, it's 10 nanometer, and apparently the IPC gains for these chips are somewhat impressive compared to the last 10 nanometer chips. Net nanometer.

But I don't know. I mean, there's not much to say about it, I guess, because there wasn't a crazy performance boost like the 39, which I've already pre-ordered multiple times. And again, speaking of which, uh, I would, I would wait for reviews on these things as per usual, um, is there, is there like individual release dates for any of these products? I know they're going to be like in laptops.

So like, did the laptops themselves have, I know it's called the launch event. So are they coming like now or probably hold on a second okay people in the chat maybe even know that more like like off the top their head the first comment i see is 2024 i don't think so 2024 oh geez um september Oh, geez. September? Okay. So, yeah, like essentially now, but maybe they're not on shelves yet. Similar to the NVIDIA stuff. Cool.

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yeah definitely not i don't even know if that's true it's not nintendo right because nintendo's been around since like the early 1900s really shouldn't yeah the the card company or whatever yeah yeah so it's got to be mario and so for his 35th anniversary oh 35th anniversary of super mario brothers that's what it. And so they've announced some weird stuff. And the first thing is a actual live RC car that you can control with your Nintendo Switch.

So you can set up a virtual course around your house and then pick up your Switch and control this actual Mario Kart that is driving around on your floor. Oh, and it's got a camera camera on it and stuff so it still feels interesting yeah i feel okay i feel like you need a channel super fun revival thing here because back way at the beginning youtube channel super fun alliance and i went to a skate park with like a Yoshi and a Mario in, in like Mario cart setups.

This was like way OG. One of the first videos we did, I think. Um, yeah, real, real life Mario cart RC race six years ago, 2.4 million views. You guys recreate that video, but with ones with cameras on it, go back to like, I don't know, the same skate park and then but have people like sit away so they can't even look at the skate park and have the race because you've got the camera on it probably yeah skate park would actually probably be like closer to an actual mario kart track because it's got all this crazy stuff yeah

you guys could bring just some little like cones so you can map out the the track a little bit um totally that would be awesome i don't know whether you like you must you must map out the track before you kind of start going i i can't like it can't just like start driving and then it like lays down things as you go yeah i don't really it does overlay like other virtual characters from mario kart on the screen and like power-ups and stuff yes so it is like playing like actual mario kart but you can see the you know honestly i don't really see the appeal of this i guess it's kind of fun for kids nintendo's for kids, I guess, so I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. So it looks like it's a bit of a checkpoint system. And you lay down these, like, the checkpoint flags, and it can see the, like, QR-style code that goes along the checkpoint, which is the black and white squares. Oh, nice. And then I think it somewhat auto-maps the course out to a certain degree from there. That's pretty cool. I could see it being kind of fun.

I wonder if you could use a Hot Wheels ramp or something and have the... That would have to be a really intense Hot Wheels ramp. Because they're like big cars. They're not little like... Well, put a few of them together. Put a few of the tracks together and then you fit on there. Or something. Because that's one of the coolest things about those new Mario Kart games.

When you kind of go up on the wall and your wheels go... And you're like... I'm going around. That's crazy. Good to recreate it in real life. That's what I want to know. Yeah. I think you guys should do a video on this.

That's all I'm saying. Okay, I'll pitch it. Nice. And then the other thing is a little point of controversy because they've released the Super Mario 3D All-Stars package bundle, which has Super Mario 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy, I think, remastered versions for the Switch. And it's like, oh, sweet,

you're bringing remastered versions of games to the Switch. But you can only buy it from, I think, later in September to the end of March. And then they take it away. People are upset about the fact that it's being taken away? David was quite upset. It seems a little silly. I would definitely... This is what's so confusing about Nintendo.

Like, yeah, just why like so many of their policies yeah really good games we want to play your games and we want to play them online and we want to give you our money for stuff so let us buy the stuff they're like okay but only for these months yeah we like traditionally even want to give you more money than other people yeah yeah it's been a trend maybe i don't want to buy it now i got you know a lot of games in my queue to play but like maybe i want to buy it later you know maybe i'll put that on my wish list or whatever like no after buying now it's kind of crazy special and then the why the super mario bros 35 turns classic mario gameplay into a 35 person battle royale yes and this is a particularly funny because a fan made a uh his own version of the

mario shut it down yeah and they shut it down and that one had 100 players right i think do you remember when that came out uh that seems like something you know about i think it was 75 players oh whoa i just moved it's under the punch yeah 75 the the other one is 75 players oh 75 oops i uh i lied in techlink then guys go to go to TechLink once it's live. I don't think it's live yet because I have to publish it. The Verge says it's 75 players. So I don't... That's the quote on the Verge's site. We'll see. So I might

still be right. Potentially. You're telling me there's a chance. We'll have to pick you and them. The fan-made one had them actually... All the players could run around on the screen at once. And this one one it's like tetris 99 where you're playing a game and there's 34 other people playing on the side and if you like defeat a bad guy the bad guy will like get knocked over to their game and then they have to get rid of the bad guy you ever played tetris 99 uh it's been a very very

long time but yes i actually love tetris and can't have been that long it's only been out for a couple years i think i played it like on launch not very much and then was like oh yeah i really prefer playing this game on other mediums i never went back i mean it was free so but um, you like send things to other people, to other people's games to make it more difficult. And that's how you like eliminate them. But yeah, very, a few strange announcements from Intel to celebrate the 35th anniversary.

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don't let me get really judgmental here but if you like don't want to like spend time or deal with your pet at all but you want a pet i catch i catch fire for this all the time though because some people have these like super affectionate cats i just in in most of my experience they just want to be left alone which is completely fine if that's the style you're going for those cats aren't normal cats which probably spent a lot of time with dogs and then they became more like dogs you can't be like oh cats are affectionate and show your cat that's basically a dog i yeah i don't know i mean your cat is cool because it's like a dog not because it's a cool cat you know um i don't know i've never i've never had a cat so i i can't i can't properly

judge but i had a cat my my my family adopted a street cat named sassy and she was oh my um scratchy anyways let's uh you know we can talk about cats the whole show if you want i i do i'm down or we could talk about the first battery-free game boy yeah what the heck is this dutch well let me tell you or do you want to go you why don't you tell me about it luke i have no idea what it is well it's not an actual game boy it is it is why don't you read the points luke okay dutch computer scientist at delft university of technology oh giving me all the crazy names jasper de winkel revealed that's an awesome name revealed the world's first battery free game boy dubbed engage um rather than having a battery pack the front of the device is covered in solar cells and utilizes other energy harvesting techniques to power itself the project

was grown out of a study involving energy harvesting and what they call intermittent computing devices. Intermittent computing devices harvest small amounts of power resulting in devices that only remain on for a few seconds rather than hours. This is opposed to batteries which continuously drain at varying rates until completed. No more of this.

They wrote a whole essay this is very long um so he gets very excited about writing uh all the details yes so it's actually like an og game boy is that yeah that's what i'm seeing here okay wait now i need to look at the lights i'm sorry like green and black tetris on a solar powered device i think that it's not i think that it's not a uh like they built it themselves like it's all custom yeah like it's not a it's not a officially from nintendo device for sure it runs the game boy emulator though so you can run game boy games on it and uh i don't know if you got to this part yet but like it it's it stays on by having these solar panel solar panels that provide power but it also gets power from button

presses oh and if you don't if you don't press any buttons for like 10 seconds it'll just shut off it also doesn't generate sound oh i didn't see that because sound would take too much power and you know what's funny is like all the framing for this that i saw in the articles are like oh they're laying the groundwork for a future uh the you know the the future devices of no not battery powered mobile gaming devices and i'm like what like this thing can barely stay on and it's running like the simplest two day 2d games the screen is super small yeah it's very small it doesn't have sound um presently engages capable of gameplay for up to 10 seconds at a time by harvesting energy from the solar panels it's definitely it's it's a very cool like hackery project i i very much appreciate it for that um i don't know if it's paving the way of the future but it's it's a really cool like having one of

these would be kind of neat um yeah i i think it's cool that these guys made this but anthony made a note at the bottom said imagine if we could harvest energy from keystrokes and other button presses on a larger scale. Because right now, all that power is going to waste. That's interesting. I wonder if it would be able to make any sort of difference at all. What if your laptop could

get some power from your typing? You have a 3090 and you have this mechanical keyboard and each keypress just takes two pounds of force so that you can like try to try and generate any amount of like actually impactful power he's like i need to turn left it would be a good thing for uh for um self-control you know like you cut your uh six hour gaming in

hashing uh the six hour gaming sessions in half everyone's gonna have these like super jacked like hand and and wrist muscles these like super heavy keys because you'd have to like you'd have to add i see you're a gamer the like the like jerks in the computing community would be the gamers because they want their like very like light, fast key presses. And everyone else has to have these like super jacked up keys so that they can, because it has to have some amount of resistance to like actually generate a decent amount of power.

So we're like... Typing. Yeah. We're like reversing the technological path that key switches have gone down over quite a while. Gosh. Well, actually, I think typists would be more jacked

than gamers. Because gamers are just using the... Gamers would have really, really set up these fingers and the muscles that connect to them and nothing else i guess i have uh what do you call it moba players would maybe have more more fingers oh there you go there you go it would just be left down they'd be asymmetrical well now you just need a mouse

that has like really intense switches in it too you got really strong two fingers. Just like your first day rock climbing, you're just amazing. And everyone's like, what's going on? How are you so good at this? I play League of Legends. It's the future. You guys talked Epic Games and Apple to death last week, right? I think we've talked about them like a couple weeks in a row.

Why? What's up? Well, I don't know. I just feel like that's something I could actually talk about instead of Kudakor's. I'll take an aside there. We had a win very recently that we talked about last WAN show. We've been fighting for months now, actually, to try to get the Flowplane app on the iOS app store.

I forgot what it's called for a second. Play Store was stuck in my head because I do that a little bit more often. But it's been quite the battle. Long story short, eventually I just filed for like, can you guys call me and tell me what the heck is actually going on and the guy picks up the phone was like oh yeah I reviewed it myself and everything's fine so we're gonna approve it um and I was like great sweet we waited for months for someone to actually

properly take a look at it um so that's live now on the iOS store and launched today dark mode is on the play store we finally have dark mode in the float plane app on the play store it will be coming to the ios app as well um we just hit the hit the play store with it first uh we'll see if apple decides that you're not allowed to have dark mode um so we'll see how that goes maybe that'll happen i don't know but yeah as long as you didn't like sneak in a little uh little sneaky uh disclosure about the fact that they're taking 30 percent of purchases or something it should be fine yeah we we did nothing of the story we had dark mode previously in a beta on the play store

now it's in the production line so you guys should all be getting a an update to that very soon. Dark mode everything, man. Heck yeah. Life's dark. I don't like it. You just put it up there as a feature that people should be excited about. No, no, no. Our feature is cool. I think Jayden did a fantastic job with it. I think the design, the colorization, all that is fantastic.

I mean dark mode in general. I find it worse because every time that something like like if i uh if i reload a page in my browser to like flash a white screen for a second or like it when whenever something bright comes on it's like oh and it like actually hurts and then it goes back to dark mode i'm like okay i'm fine but if it's hurting you that much that means that you're you're you're in a very dark room right yeah and you should go to bed it's a nice reminder i'm all about these self-control keep yourself accountable screw screw the the invention of the light bulb we need to go to bed and the sun goes down yeah we don't need that um um yeah no there's not much to say about the apple epic thing other topics elon musk made a made a cyborg pig um

yeah how do you feel about that i i thought it was pretty interesting um they showed the pork yeah i mean as long as i guess I'm not eating its brain. There was a computer in there. But it was in its brain. Yeah, but you could get metal poisoning. Yeah, it was a fairly interesting demo. I think the community was probably expecting more, but I thought it was pretty cool.

And to me, it felt like i think some people were expecting a lot of application when they showed a lot of uh like almost more api level stuff yeah like they showed you like this is what we can expose like this is the information we can expose we're not really doing much with it but this is the information we can expose. We're not really doing much with it, but this is the information that we can expose. And I think people were expecting application. I think it's still super cool. Um, but yeah, we'll have to wait. Elon Musk also like played down the whole thing where he kind of like described it as a Fitbit in your skull. And whereas before, I think when, when most people think of like these kind of brain

machine interfaces and especially coming from Elon Musk, you're like, Oh my gosh, he's making a way for us to live in the matrix basically. Yeah. Yeah. And then he comes out and it's like, well, we managed to put it in a pig and now we know what he's smelling. And like a lot of their actual work has gone into like the robotic surgery stuff and like stuff like that which right you have to take care of these more infrastructure style projects before you can dive into the more fun things yeah i think when i when when elon musk announces these kind of things i kind of like know

to be a little cautious because i know that he likes to move fast you know like tesla likes the hype machine he likes to say that he's going gonna move fast anyways like i think he said that they were supposed to have a fleet of self-driving tesla taxis by the end of this year or something but then obviously that didn't happen but um i think that when he announces these things i'm like okay look we're not gonna have like the thing from black mirror where you just stick it on your head and now you're in like a video game and you do all sorts of crazy things while you're in the video game um anyone seen that episode have you have you ever seen black mirror yeah isn't that the one where it's like the the horror game or whatever there's a bunch of episodes where they like put these things on their head or whatever and they're like in a video game but like the most recent season had a pretty wild uh pretty pretty pretty wild episode i think it's it's not

appropriate but it's a little iffy okay so um okay i don't know if i've seen it or not i didn't think we were gonna get that right away i think that when i see this i'm kind of like all right it's gonna be very you know incremental yeah we're gonna see like oh we put in a pig look the the real thing here is that look we put it in the pig and the pig didn't die great job everybody apparently they got a chimpanzee to actually control a computer so they're getting there human trials are coming soon once they figure out how to not kill people yeah like what? What? Was this ripped off? What did you find out? Oh, no.

Okay. So for some reason, it says that this was uploaded. Oh, Google, like, grabbed the description from a new video, but put it under a different video. Anyways, if you want to go to YouTube, keep this tab open, go to YouTube, open a new tab on YouTube and search Linus Tech Tips OCZ Neural Impulse Actuator. This is like the OCZ Neural Impator plus head brain mouse unboxing. This was the thing.

It didn't go in your skull, but you strapped it to your head in a much more comfortable, in a much less comfortable way than the fantastic nine 99 combo set of sweat bands from ltdstore.com. But, but you could plug, there's an external box and you had to, the wires ran from the back of your head strap thing to this external box.

And the external box had a USB cable that went into your computer. And you could, like, I played Call of Duty. That's like an accessibility thing also, right? I'm sure. I didn't use it that way. But I'm sure it was used that way to a certain degree. I used it to play Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, and it was interesting.

You could, it was a very interesting product back then with what I'm sure was a lot less research backing and a lot less purchases, even though the what is what is their thing called? Neuralink? Neuralink is not out there yet. I'm sure it'll probably sell better than this thing did because it really did not do very well. But but it was a really interesting project back then. And, like, I think this is the grand granddad.

I like how you're trying to draw a parallel between these two things because they're, like, completely different. I mean, like, on the one hand, you have a thing on your head that's letting you point a mouse. But it's just like you're taking a tracker and putting on a putting it on your head no like what do you mean it's not it's not a tracker that you're putting on your head it's it's you'll have to think about it yes oh i missed that there's there's other stuff to it like it the the way that they made it like an even remotely viable product was that some of the stuff that it could pick up on was like facial muscle movements. So you could like scrunch your cheek and it could tell and it could use that as an input. But the more interesting stuff was like alpha beta wave, weird, funky stuff.

And it trains you to eventually without any facial movement and sitting there very, very still because if you look around or do anything everything's going to go wild but when you focus really really really hard they had a tetris game that you controlled by thinking essentially or focusing in different ways um they had various sort of doohickeys that can kind of like sense eegs or whatever and like do things accordingly yeah did you see that jedi toy you could like raise the ball in the tube they had like a star wars oh yes like a sensor thing yeah and you think about raising the ball in the tube and you can like and like the thing can sense the waves or whatever your brain waves and then it like yeah so this is i mean it's it's fairly far removed but like and i guess the near the near link thing is going to be some you know it's got to be not that different from that it's fairly far removed, but like, and I guess the Neuralink thing is going to be some, you know, it's gotta be not that different from that. It's just that the detectors, instead of being on the

outside of your skull or inside your skull. And way more accurate. But like, this is what I'm kind of talking about. Whereas like the, the OCZ neural impulse actuator had a fair amount more application. Um, like I was able to use it in call of duty they're not currently talking about that they're talking about the right the information that they're able to collect not necessarily how they're going to use it or how other people are necessarily going to be able to use it yeah i mean yeah i can't remember whether elon musk like said anything specifically about the actual practical applications of this and like what you're going to i don't think so he's been like you you will use it to interface with computers and i think that

right now he doesn't want to like say we you're going to be able to do this you're going to be able to do this because yeah they're still figuring it out but um at the very least it was an interesting kind of proof of concept that well hey look we can put it in a pig and not make them explode and make it not horrible yeah um and i i think one of the big things too is like i'm sure his various companies will have first party features for it i'm sure uh the the tesla mobile phone app will be able to be interfaced with with this thing um i'm sure neural link will have some of their own applications but in my opinion the most interesting part is is the the api side of things the ability for third parties to come in and and utilize that information

oh some people in the chat are saying that elon did talk about potential medical benefits particularly i'm guessing for like diagnostics. So you could kind of like- There was some pretty major stuff. Brain patterns and stuff. So you could probably maybe get a bit of a headstart on like Alzheimer's or something maybe. Yeah, I'd have to. I haven't seen it, but that's what some people-

There was some pretty big claims in terms of health benefits. We'll have to see how those roll out in the future. But all of this stuff, I suspect, is going to get wrapped up in rather amazing amounts of bureaucratic mess. So it might be quite a while until we see any of this, to be honest.

Somebody asks, how do I skip a brain ad? Which is a great comment. Okay, so I'm going to try to figure out how to do super chats and then i think we're gonna end the show i have no idea how to do that um you don't know i think i do you do do you want to do them maybe wait a second switch account oh i'm not signed in on this computer whoopsies oh boy you have to do them you have to figure it out i think in creator studio there's a live tab or something i think i found viewer activity you can do it i think i think this is it i'm not 100 certain uh

victor debnath says hello from ind India. Hello. Sup, dude. Ross McCoy at like the very beginning of the show, probably before we got into this segment, says, should I buy the founder's edition of the 3090 or wait for AIB models? I think we somewhat answered that. Before we, he must have come in before we talked, or after. Or before. Started the stream, I mean. Either way, he didn't see it.

Kevin Irish says, with the price performance of the new 3000 series, do you think NVIDIA will retire the GTX branding, move fully to RTX, or continue with the 16xx series to keep the GTX name as an uber budget option? I feel like that's a really easy way for NVIDIA to open up some lower tier options if they really need to, if they feel like the market has room for it. If AMD comes out and they've got really competitive cards at the low end, all NVIDIA has to do is just be like, all right, we're just going to disable the RT features on this one and put it out there as a gtx part so i don't know i i i don't think i can't i see them not doing it yeah i don't think they would ever like officially put

the gtx branding to rest because they could always whip it out if they need to at any point in time but yeah GTX give me the new GT oh my Matthew Lang why not do a build off with the new 30 series cards invite Paul Kyle J I love how he specifies gamers next to Steve not just Steve

etc etc do a build post the video on a certain date judge on price benchmarks and cooling announce the winner on the WAN show. Sounds like a great idea. Sounds like remote Scrapyard Wars, but not Scrapyard. It's like remote expensive wars. Well, we kind of did. Actually, I mean, I guess it's not that different from what we just did, which is the PC tech support challenge, I guess, without the tech support. Yeah, and that was live, I guess it's not that different from what we just did, which is the, what was it, the PC tech support challenge,

I guess, without the tech support. Yeah, and that was live, I guess. Yeah, just do a live thing like that, but with the 3,000 cards. Be interesting. Maybe. We'll have to ask Linus. Yeah, so you're kind of talking to the wrong people right now.

Dave Chapman. Hey, guys, still loving my 1080 Ti TI and you should, but I'm tempted for 3000 series. Sounds good. Tempted is a decent place to be at. This temptation, sir. Just, just wait till you get more information and then potentially pull the trigger. Sounds like they're going to be fantastic. And I hope they are fantastic. I just would hope that people wait for more support. I just always, I'm just always so confused about why people need the next best thing right now, especially if you've got a 2080-something. Just chill.

Get one later. You're fine. Anyways. There's someone in here asking about floatplane support. You can just send an email to support at floatplane.com. Super easy. support you can uh you can just send an email to support at flowplane.com super easy um cooper says riley i swear to god if you i wanted to read this first before i read it out loud i swear to god if you shave that mustache i'm gonna fly to vancouver drive to your office

and leave a strongly worded mess uh letter, letter for your manager. Oh, that's scary. I'm not going to shave the mustache for a while, but I am going to shave this beard because I've had, uh, it's a bit of a new dad beard that I have let go. So I'm going to get rid of that. Ah, yeah. But the mustache is here to stay. Maybe. I don't know. to stay maybe i don't know and and last but not least dingle 9707 donated two dollars and said toblaron thank you very much uh for watching the stream everyone preach we will see you guys next week goodbye The outro is coming MSI Vigor Nerd or Die and Ridgewall

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