The WAN Show - NVIDIA Surrenders! Founder's Edition RTX Cards De-listed - WAN Show October 16 , 2020

Episode Date: October 19, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that goal to beat your personal best?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Keep chasing it. Drive your ambition. Mitsubishi motors actually it'll start whatever this thing decides that it will and welcome to the wend show ladies and gentlemen we've got a terrific show for you guys today with all kinds of great tech news this just in amd's Ryzen 5000 series is rumored to be able to hit as high as 6 gigahertz when it's overclocked. When will AMD stop? When will they take away the pain? In other news this week, Microsoft strikes a profit sharing deal with GameStop. We don't
Starting point is 00:01:03 have a ton of details as to how exactly this arrangement works and whether or not it will keep GameStop's bloated corpse from finally sinking below the surface of the lake. But hey, if I was GameStop, I'd be willing to do just about anything to stay alive too. What else we got, Luke? Nvidia is no longer going to be selling
Starting point is 00:01:24 3000 series cards direct online. What? I wonder if this will transition into future releases as well. But how will people get Founders Edition? We'll talk about that later. Also, AMD motherboard with a soldered A9 9820 to offer performance comparable to the Xbox One S. Interesting. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:01:49 I don't know why that matters. But it's in the dock and we'll talk about it later. Fantastic. Oh, TLDR. It's probably the Xbox One SoC. Interesting. Interesting. Ah! Well, then.
Starting point is 00:02:11 How about that? Oh, shoot. I forgot to put the... I forgot to put the thing in there yeah i didn't put the lower thirds so i guess we're just gonna have to skip that okay cool all right oh sorry got a little bit of a bug there sorry sorry about that i love this thing so much all right why don't we jump right into it with NVIDIA no longer selling 3000 series cards direct online. So this was originally posted by PCMag and Tom's Guide.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And basically, if you wanted to buy an NVIDIA Founders Edition card, well, I guess you're just f***ing a lot. Because NVIDIA is not going to be selling them on nvidia.com the only way to get one will apparently be through best buy in the usa with international outlets not yet revealed you know what that's not as surprising as you might think because as i recall when nvidia first introduced their founders edition cards which would have been this was that 700 well oh was it before that dang i can't remember when they transitioned from founders edition or from reference cards to founders edition cards yeah i'm not 100 sure
Starting point is 00:03:41 was it 900 series or 1000 must have been maxwell i don't know maybe it was before that actually was it 6 680 oh yeah i don't remember but nvidia did experiment with making those cards exclusively available at best buy that was one of the first in fact i think that was before they were even selling direct on nvidia.com i I believe Best Buy was the first place that you were able to get a built by NVIDIA card. And I remember it being like a big hubbub in the industry because AMD famously transitioned from building built by ATI at the time, built by ATI cards. So you could buy like a first party card to no longer providing those and leaning on their add-in board partners. And then NVIDIA, who had traditionally never provided a built-by-NVIDIA card and had always
Starting point is 00:04:32 had add-in board partners, now was all of a sudden transitioning to their own built-by-NVIDIA cards, these Founders Edition cards. And there was a whole bunch of upset about, well, okay, NVIDIA is just trying to salvage, no, not salvage, trying to grab even more margin for themselves because if there's anywhere from 5% to 8% profit in a card like an RTX 3080, let's say, for example, at each, the add-in board partner and the retailer level,
Starting point is 00:05:03 well, hey, that's NVIDIA effectively making anywhere from 10 to 15% more per card on the ones that they sell for themselves. So it creates a bit of a conflict of interest because if NVIDIA's partners are relying on them to fairly distribute allocation of these hot chips that everybody wants and are basically like printing money at this point,
Starting point is 00:05:23 like the more of them NVIDIA can make, the more money everyone in the ecosystem can make. And NVIDIA is the one responsible for doing it. So if they have this incentive to take them all for themselves and just sell them themselves for more profit, then why would they send MSI or ASUS or EVGA's full allocation to them?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Why wouldn't they just hold some back for themselves? So Best Buy has been uh one quick thing just to just to insert apparently it happened a lot later than i remember it happening um i think that's just because the the visual style didn't change much but uh it was uh one thousand series cards really yeah oh all right yeah i guess that does kind of make sense once i like saw the article i was like oh yeah okay i just i thought it happened earlier than that yeah i thought there was one before that too i thought there was like a like a 760 or something like that like much earlier i thought it was 700 series as well so maybe we're we're tripping on something but i'm founding articles about like what the heck is a founder's edition card and they're talking
Starting point is 00:06:30 about the 1070 and 1080 got it okay well there you go okay why don't we uh have a look so why why would nvidia stop selling themselves because I said, obviously they make another, you know, five to seven or maybe even 8% profit if they just sell the Founders Editions through their own website. The reason is that they have basically thrown in the towel and said, well, we just can't, shucks, we just can't figure out how to do this without letting the bots get all the graphics cards.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So we're going to leave it to the professionals here. And it wouldn't surprise me if in the future, NVIDIA went back to selling Founders Editions through their own site once the demand dies down a little bit. But for now, they're going to leave it to Best Buy because Best Buy has been overall a more reliable storefront for card sales when compared to NVIDIA. Although it should be noted that that's not by a huge margin a recent restock saw best buys 3080 founders edition cards staying available for only several minutes so none of this is the ideal situation for nvidia but um if they're gonna come out and say that they want to make an earnest effort to eliminate bots or not eliminate, but, you know, minimize the effects of bots and scalpers on availability
Starting point is 00:07:50 of RTX 3000 series cards, then they're going to have to put their money where their mouth is and take a bit of a hit to their profit in order to make sure that customers are actually getting their cards. It'll be really interesting to see how all of these shortages play into AMD's upcoming launch. I mean, we know big Navi is coming in the coming weeks here. And it wouldn't surprise me based on what AMD has done for their past cards if we saw a hard launch with availability.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And if AMD manages to pull that off and they're even remotely competitive they might get a lot of sales just because people can't even buy the other thing yeah just because nvidia can't ship a graphics card to save their life it's a pretty interesting concept but i could definitely see it like i i know i have a few friends that are looking to get 3000 series cards and they've been struggling and not succeeding. So it's interesting. This is a great comment from Ninja Man Away over on Floatplane.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I've never understood why people would buy a Founders Edition card rather than a third party card when the third party cards are normally better. Wonderful comment. So there's a couple of things here. better wonderful comment so there's a couple of things here the founders edition or back in the day the reference edition cards were typically the like minimum but still decent board spec to build a graphics card based on that gpu they'd have no frills or or extra gimmicks or anything like that typically no rgb lighting um no factory overclock to speak of because they were they were meant to be representative of the you know nvidia
Starting point is 00:09:32 approved experience one thing if i can insert is also before this generation uh well and i guess it yeah before this generation because of the troop swap um they they were also blowers yes which in some cases people like really wanted that due to certain airflow restrictions etc sorry keep going so if you had a small form factor case back in the gtx 1000 days then you might have wanted uh like a founder's edition style card because it's the only way to keep your other components from getting suffocated. With RTX 2000, well, that option went away anyway and NVIDIA's Founders Editions moved to like a two fan,
Starting point is 00:10:14 sorry, whatever the opposite of a blower style is. So the one that just recirculates hot air in your case. It's escaping me at the moment. It doesn't matter. It's really not the point. Oh yeah, they did. Yeah, nevermind. So that was with rtx
Starting point is 00:10:25 2000 now with rtx 3000 nvidia has actually positioned the founders edition cards as less of a baseline for performance and more as a Premium option making them not only priced higher than the cards that you would buy from the likes of an Asus or MSI or whatever else actually last gen they were priced higher if i were actually i think they've founders edition has always been more expensive just because that cooler costs so much to make like 1000 series was i think 100 higher on the 80 and i think it was like 60 or 75 higher on the 70 so they're not only priced
Starting point is 00:11:01 higher because of their fancy pretty cooler but nvidia put a ton of work into making the RTX 3000 Founders Edition cards really awesome, actually. Like, okay, there's a couple things here. One, the first party NVIDIA cards did not have any of those black screening issues that plagued some RTX 3000s. And two, the cooler on them is actually outstanding. The way that it not only helps keep the card cool, but also helps cool your system. And I don't have any third party confirmation of this, but what it looks like to me is that Nvidia is creating yet another rift with their partners by offering cards that their partners don't have any realistic expectation of properly competing with. Like, did you see NVIDIA's video about what went into the
Starting point is 00:11:53 design of the thermal solution for the RTX 3080? Yeah, and I do also agree with what you're saying it's it's an interesting position um and i i think it's a much more attractive play to people purchasing cards than than previous founders editions offerings absolutely but what happened was they gave themselves an extremely unfair advantage yes nvidia obviously the way that those guys hold their cards so close to their chest i pretty much guarantee you that their partners had the minimum minimum possible amount of time to work on their uh to work on their board designs for these new chips whereas nvidia was sitting there with first party knowledge throughout the entire development process of this product, knowing, okay, hey, we've got a 400-watt problem to solve.
Starting point is 00:12:53 How can we solve it? If I'm Asus or if I'm EVGA or I'm Galax or whoever else, I'm going, okay, sorry, what? I have a 400-watt problem to solve? And I'm scrambling, right? I'm just putting a giant vapor chamber and a giant heat sink on it and i'm otherwise going with a pretty traditional board design if i'm nvidia i go and i create this fancy pants special angular board and this like flow through design for my cooler that nobody can reasonably be expected to compete with until
Starting point is 00:13:25 they've had another probably six months, realistically, like six to 12 months to come out and build something similar to. And just like we've seen in previous generations, with all the minds that go into this at NVIDIA's add-in board partners, someone is gonna create something that is super cool and totally unlike the reference or Founders Edition card. But if they don't have the time to do it, it's not reasonable to expect them to be able to. So at launch, man, the Founders Editions honestly look pretty good this time around,
Starting point is 00:14:02 except that unfortunately with this announcement that nvidia.com will no longer be selling them, comes the unfortunate news that Europeans or anyone outside of the US who can't just walk into a Best Buy will simply not be able to buy them. Oh my God. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I didn't think about that part. Whoopsie daisies. Yeah, Digidude 512 in floatplane chat brings up another great reason why people like founders edition or reference cards and that's that generally they're the first to get water block support because of how common they are compared to say a strix or an ars card with that said the situation is totally improving the first block we were able to get our hands on was actually an EK1
Starting point is 00:14:48 for an ASUS Strix RTX. That is for the 3090. Actually, I think, yeah, no, it's compatible with the 3080 as well. Yeah, so I think they use the same board design or at least EK thinks they do. And we did manage to put it on a 3090
Starting point is 00:14:59 with some small modifications. So it seems like, yeah, it seems like it's getting quite a bit better. And so many of the board, so many of the board makers actually do their own water blocks now, like EVGA does, or they have partnerships with brands like EK, that it's less of an issue today than it used to be. So Sez says, but the Founders edition cards are not reference cards this year yes that is true the founders edition cards are not reference cards to my knowledge there isn't really a reference card that anyone outside of you know maybe a board partner would have seen even yeah all of the rtx 3080s and 3090s that i've seen from different manufacturers have been
Starting point is 00:15:46 completely different boards unless i unless i'm wrong unless there is a reference board that i'm not aware of so guys feel free to let me know in the floatplane chat i'm looking into it i i haven't heard of anything and i don't see anything immediately but yeah in the meantime why don't we jump into the microsoft gamestop deal that seems to be kind of like a kind of a last ditch effort to stay alive for gamestop i actually think this makes a ton of sense though so the original article here that we read through was on ars technica good article uh gamestop will now get a share in the lifetime digital sales revenue for any next gen Xbox console sold through its stores. And it's not like there's no precedent for, actually here, hold on, let's talk through the rest of the thing first. So this includes for full game downloads,
Starting point is 00:16:39 DLCs, microtransactions, TV and movies, and subscription plans. Now, GameStop at the time of us making our notes here had yet to respond to a request for comment from Ars Technica, and Microsoft declined to request a comment from Ars Technica. And so that leaves everyone pretty much kind of guessing at what exactly is going on here. Some analysts think that the size of the cut
Starting point is 00:17:06 would be less than 1%. Some are saying somewhere between 1% and 10%. Some are saying, I don't believe that it would be a bigger cut because what's Microsoft's incentive here? I don't see how, what, if they don't have this, are they gonna sell fewer Xboxes? But honestly, I think this makes a ton of sense. And I think if I was Microsoft, I would be super into a deal like this. about doing more or less the same thing,
Starting point is 00:17:45 which I'm sure they heard of this partway through the conversation and were just like, well, I guess we're doing that because as dying as GameStop is, you can't just let your competitor have that type of deal because it would incentivize GameStop to drastically push one console over the other. So PlayStation is going to respond. One quick thing I can just interject here is while the founders edition is not on a reference card uh there is reference boards and the 3080 and 3090 share reference board designs as confirmed by ek waterboxx
Starting point is 00:18:17 oh okay i wasn't sure who if anyone was using them though yeah i not entirely sure but um sweet sounds like there is at least a reference board design maybe the more basic cards that makes sense thanks for that um all right so back to back to our notes for this one here um now there are some more obvious benefits for microsoft that are part of the deal so So GameStop will commit to use Microsoft's cloud products and tablets in their stores, as they announced last week. And there's some sort of analysis here that that could make Microsoft look better to shareholders with cloud revenue from GameStop. I don't know what kind of shareholders think that GameStop using a Surface tablet as an
Starting point is 00:19:03 employee device matters like matters of at all, but sure, whatever floats your boat. For me, honestly, I think this is quite a bit simpler than some of the other takes that I've seen so far. I think this is just, even if Microsoft knew that Sony was gonna turn around and make the exact same deal making this pretty much status quo like on the one hand yeah like yeah microsoft they're going
Starting point is 00:19:31 in there they're going to give a profit share to gamestop so that gamestop is going to push xbox really hard people are going to come in try and buy a playstation 5 they're going to they're going to hide them they're going to lock them away they're going to make them leave with an xbox like at the end of the day most gamers already know what they're walking to hide them. They're going to lock them away. They're going to make them leave with an Xbox. Like at the end of the day, most gamers already know what they're walking in for. And at the end of the day, there's no way that Sony wasn't going to counter a deal like this. So if I'm Microsoft, I probably, I'm already playing, I'm already playing 4D chess with Sony at this point. You know, so I'm looking two moves ahead for DHS. I already see that coming. I know that my cloud infrastructure or whatever is a huge benefit for me with Project xCloud,
Starting point is 00:20:13 a just way more robust system for digital content delivery, all that kind of stuff. So you're expecting more digital sales? So I'm expecting a ton of digital sales. I know that ultimately this is all going to be like a war of attrition. And I know that if we're both making the same deal with GameStop, I'm in a better position to deliver on this promise in the longer term. It's going to actually cost me less. The other thing that if I'm Microsoft that I'm considering is like, I don't actually want GameStop to go out of business.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Think about that for a minute. Maybe I'm making this deal because I actually think it's a good thing for, like how many stores does GameStop have? Like thousands? Maybe I think it's actually a good thing for, remember, we're talking consoles as a service is the way that Microsoft is going here.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Maybe I think it's a good thing to, instead of going and trying to build a network of carrier stores like the mobile device industry has done, whether you're T-Mobile or you're Verizon or AT&T or whatever the case may be. Instead of doing that, why don't I just basically take an infrastructure that already exists, take a business model that we already know works where the store sells the hardware and then they get a recurring fee
Starting point is 00:21:36 on any subscription revenue or any transactional revenue. So potentially this could be quite a generous fee and that keeps my distribution network alive. Not everyone is going to buy online. Not everyone. There's even the value of the classic story where you go to the mall with your partner and they want to go buy whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And you're walking around bored and you just go buy an xbox game that's right every time that's right even if you don't buy something it's it's in microsoft's best interest for that store it's in microsoft and sony's best interest for that store to survive it's it's basically a marketing exercise a game stop to me if i'm microsoft a game stop is a free billboard yes actually and like having having your game on the shelf or having your console on the shelf or behind the desk or whatever is super valuable if i walk into a game stop or it's uh eb games up here i'm usually not gonna buy something but i'm gonna look around and i'm gonna to check like,
Starting point is 00:22:46 oh, what new games came out for like, for Switch or something? Because I don't really stay on top of the news for that. But a whole shelf of games in front of me is very in my face when I'm bored in the mall looking for something to do. And I might as well look at some games.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I'll often just like look at the wall of games and then see anything that looks interesting and then Google it while I'm standing there and see if there's any more details. So like they want these stores to survive. So even if like it doesn't necessarily make a ton of financial sense in direct ROI, it's great marketing. Exactly. And like think about it. If all Microsoft wanted to do was sell Xboxes at launch, right?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Well, there's any number of partners, you know, there's your Best Buy or there's, I mean, screw it. When demand is high for Xboxes, you know, you could sell, they could sell Xboxes at corner stores and they would move through them all. But name someone other than GameStop who's not going to be focused on something else six months later. Microsoft needs partners to still exist who are going to be pushing Xbox in five years or six years
Starting point is 00:23:54 when the Xbox, whatever completely bass-ackwards name they give it, the next one is about to come out. When Skyrim definitive long-term reach Platinum Edition gets launched. Nvidia needs, or Nvidia, Microsoft needs somebody to care about that and push the product.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So if I'm Microsoft, I don't want GameStop to go away. I think it's that simple. And back to what you were saying about GameStop being a store that you would just kind of wander into at the mall. I challenge you. You have, I'm starting my timer in five seconds. You have 30 seconds to name
Starting point is 00:24:31 one other store in a mall that you would walk into. Go. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. You got 20 more seconds. Go for it. yeah i don't i don't know you got 20 more seconds go for it uh atmosphere atmosphere okay all right so outdoor outdoor like a parallel time to remember the name but it has happened okay it has happened at least once but i i'm gonna start with game with uh eb games and then if i see everything and i'm like wow i it's just awkward that I'm still in this store. I would wander around until I found atmosphere. Yep. So you know what's funny? I was actually at the mall with the wife.
Starting point is 00:25:11 We were trying to get some. She was helping me buy her a birthday present because I'm a pathetic, terrible husband. Look, I knew she wanted clothes and there is no point buying a woman clothes without her just trying it on. You did. You did the right move. So I wanted the kids to have something to give her. We also did something homemade and thoughtful. And she told me she was very impressed with the bubble letters that I drew on the kids card for them to color. OK, look, bubble letters is not easy for me.
Starting point is 00:25:43 All right. I did bubble letters. She knew that is not easy for me all right i did bubble letters she knew that was a stretch for me she recognized the effort i think i remember this for some reason we had to do bubble letters back when we we worked out of the old house and i remember there being like a whole thing about that yeah i had to do it or something because you and i both sucked bubble letters is not easy for me so anyway we we did the homemade thing and i i put in the actual like effort but i wanted the kids to just have like a gift to give her along with the card and so uh for the first time ever i bought something at lululemon which was interesting shorts are 60 canadian dollars so that's a thing yeah that's like 45 us dollars that's uh she she was
Starting point is 00:26:27 like freaking out about it because she's like the i i i for the price of one of the we got two pairs of shorts so it was like 130 after tax and she was like for the price of one of these pairs of shorts i could completely replace like my entire bottom half, like wardrobe at the price that I normally buy things at. I'm like, yeah, but here's the thing, hon. We found something that fits in a store that was nearby and we could either spend the next two hours walking around this mall or I could pay myself $60 an hour to go do something else
Starting point is 00:27:02 and not still be shopping in this mall effectively. But anyway, it's probably more comfortable and it's a birthday thing and whatever. The rest of that story is, oh, they're all right. I don't know, man. The rest of that story is the one other store that I happened to walk into, Atmosphere. Hey! Because I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:27:20 this is kind of a cool looking store. I didn't buy anything. So we have that's great but i did walk into it i did walk into it we've got people like yeah i don't know i usually do like uh like one kind of slow walk up and down every aisle ish and then just leave. But yeah. Uh, all right,
Starting point is 00:27:48 cool. So, uh, float plane, Chad, Oh, I just shopped a Lululemon. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:55 I, I don't, I still, for myself, I still don't own a single Lululemon garment. Yeah, probably not. James has been trying to get me to wear their clothes basically since the day he
Starting point is 00:28:05 started he's like why do you dress like a homeless person like other than my ltd store stuff and i'm like well because ltd store hasn't made all of the products that i need to dress myself yet we're gonna have to just do joggers or something at some point so that i have pants to wear that are that i've actually i i think i have nothing to do with it so i don't know why people ask me so often but i think i've had more questions about when are you guys gonna release some form of sweat pant than than any other potential products i've had that question a lot so part of the problem is that we have a lot of internal conflict over what type of pants to do jeans are basically going to be impossible for us as far as i can tell you need a team like yeah an enormous team of people to like figure out how to do jeans it is not simple
Starting point is 00:28:50 it's a very difficult garment um so we're not doing that even though i'm a jeans wearer and i'd love it if we had like some really nice jeans um sweatpants were torn because nick and lloyd want to do something that's more like a trendy sweat pant like a jogger type pant and i'm like no if we're gonna do sweat pants let's do like some comfy sweat pants put like ltd across the bum you know what i'm talking about like nice like that kind of sweat pants so basically as far as sweat pants yeah as far as i can tell uh we have no sweat pants because lloyd refuses to design mine and i refuse to green light his so so we're at an impasse i was thinking like uh the the recent sweater non-hoodie thing yes just super similar to that like same color similar material but with ltt on the butt just i was even thinking just like, like same idea of
Starting point is 00:29:47 the like really small branding, but yeah. Okay. Nope. Nope. Big branding right across the butt. That's, that's what I want. That's what I'm all, that's what I'm all into here. All right. Why don't we jump into our next topic? Um, iPhone 12, Apple released new iPhones, the 12, 12 mini, 12 pro and 12 pro max. Wow, that's a lot of iPhone. All four variants will come with Apple's new A14 Bionic SoC. As far as I can tell, this is the first five nanometer chip that is commercially available. It's got six CPU cores, about 17% faster than A13, and four GPU cores that are about 20% faster than A13. So it should be the fastest phone on the market,
Starting point is 00:30:25 pretty much by a country mile. Not that that honestly makes much of a difference to me these days. Um, other than my review of the new Z Fold 2, I guess it's like new-ish at this point, I got it really late and I wanted it to be like a, like a really daily driving it review. Um, so it's going to be even later so other than reviewing that which i don't think i'm going to be able to daily drive because youtube stories is still not fixed with it and there's like other bugs like every time i try and post to instagram it double posts and stuff like that um yeah so if not for that i'm still daily driving a note 9 which is like two-year-old phone has a 16 i'm still running a Pixel 2 XL.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Heck yeah. And yeah, the Pixel line is particularly interesting because they have not only peaked in terms of performance, they're actually headed back down with the latest Pixel 5. Yeah, I know you asked me a week or two ago, and I'm pretty solid on 4a 5G. I need a new phone because my phone is like having notable issues like the proximity sensor and stuff i like i can't even have my sim in that phone anymore because i can't
Starting point is 00:31:30 do phone calls but um what phone calls on a phone surely you mean playing raid shadow legends on a phone raid shadow legends um so blah blah blah neural engine process 11 trillion operations per second all of them are 5g compatible with millimeter wave supported in the u.s and then sub 6 gigahertz globally has smart switching to save on battery life and magsafe is back that's pretty cool sort of i guess i i like magsafe yeah it's like a thing so here's something i find a little bit confusing about it do they really want me to put my phone like screen down on things because i don't like that i think they do because don't they have some usability features like screen down silences it or something um i mean that kind of stuff has existed for a long long time like i remember
Starting point is 00:32:24 getting a briefing on like the galaxy S4 or something like that, that had a feature where you can like... I'm just saying like, I think they do intend for you to have it face screened down sometimes. I've just never given any Fs about that because why on earth would you do that? That is the fastest, easiest way to scratch the heck out of your phone screen for no reason. Like just don't. All it takes is one like micro grain of something and some idiot to like walk past and bump your phone and it to stretch across it.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You've got like a gouge out of your screen. Like that's really dumb. So yeah, it allows for perfect charge coil alignment which is pretty cool i haven't played around with it yet maybe i'm gonna play around with it and i'm gonna be like this is so cool because the magnets are like hella strong and you'll be able to buy like desk mounted pads and you just like basically kind of chuck the phone towards it and it's like you know that it's like and it like lines up perfectly that'd be pretty cool like mag safe that would cause other issues perfect mating you know like mag safe condom
Starting point is 00:33:31 magnets to get everything aligned you know you have a keyboard with like a a real nice plate in it and your keyboard just like slowly travels across your desk over time yeah probably not happening um the pro and the pro max have lidar sensors built into the camera array so that you can get better autofocus and dim conditions so that's pretty cool and for augmented reality oh speaking of augmented reality i will stop just doing my you know obligation of going through the iphone 12 launch information and i will talk about something actually exciting i got the new mario kart today oh nice nice and and because i'm never one to do it halfway uh well actually sometimes we do it halfway it's called short circuit um so we were debating james and i were going back and forth for probably like five minutes which channel does this thing go on if we were just going to unbox the one nintendo
Starting point is 00:34:25 sent us and just like kind of try it for two minutes then short circuit if we were gonna like if we were gonna like i don't know run it through a car wash or something and see which one is the last one to outright die you know then it's channel super fun right sure if we were gonna try to you know stretch the limits of the technology and spend a bunch of time on it and like you know get four of them and do like a like an epic head-to-head race then it's still not really an ltt but boy is that a lot of work yeah so we decided to do an ltt anyway even though it's like kind of off topic for us. And I've got a pretty epic prize that is going to make this video worth watching, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So James is going to work on the technical details of like, you know, making sure that there's an educational factor. But I mean, Nintendo is such a closed book. I don't know how much or how little they're even going to share with us about, know how they got the latency so low or whatever right they might just be like the secret japanese engineering don't don't worry about it um so that's possible but we'll we'll get you guys whatever we can and then the tournament is going to be or we're going to do a grand prix obviously so we'll
Starting point is 00:35:46 do a grand prix and i'll be racing against a few people who volunteered for the video today and the winner is going to get three days vacation the runner-up will get one day vacation so with the stakes so high oh and if i win i don't i do not give out any vacation so even the runner-up doesn't get anything either uh the runner-up would get one yeah okay yeah so so someone will get something i i love this because i'm not part of it so i can just say junk like this and everyone's going to hate me, including my bird. But you just go full evil overlord. And if you win, just no one gets anything.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You're the Bowser of the race. So, yeah, that's going to be a lot of fun. I'm really excited for it. Spotty on Floatplane asks, paid vacation? It's not vacation if you're not paid. That just that's just calling in sick i don't know like yeah uh so yeah it should be should be really fun um so everyone was allowed to take home their copy of the game we got four of them everyone was allowed to take it home for the weekend so you can bet that I will be practicing. Why don't you guys do multi-channel?
Starting point is 00:37:07 You could do a quick unboxing and look on Short Circuit. You could do something on Channel Superfun where there's two teams or something and you have three hours and you have to try to mod the racer to make it go faster or something and then have a drag race so that it's
Starting point is 00:37:25 like not as much of a time investment then you can have the big content on ltt like you don't have to it doesn't have to be one thing that's true we probably wouldn't do the channel super fun because we've got some kind of big ideas for that but you're probably right we probably should just do a short circuit unboxing and then follow it up with the mario one see if we can kind of like build some momentum you know like hey come see this over on ltd make sure you don't miss it because by the way in a week or something we'll have a deeper dive coming on the main channel like that i think that would be cool and i would probably just watch both that's a pretty good idea um we should probably talk about our sponsors for the show today kind of got ahead of ourselves there a little bit.
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Starting point is 00:40:24 LINUS! What? I'm'm fooling around what do you want from me why don't you tell us about the amd motherboard with a soldered on a9 9820 what is this thing this is weird i apparently it showed up on i think it was alibaba okay um and i as far as i know it is supposed to be the xbox one soc which is which is weird um i don't know why you would really want this so much anymore like an xbox one s like not a series s yeah not a series s so what microsoft just like a bunch of these chips fell off the back of a truck and so you can like i don't even understand what i'm looking at here like because the xbox one s and one x use gddr memory so does this chip that would have been custom built for those consoles,
Starting point is 00:41:26 does this chip also support regular, what looks like DDR4? Sorry, I can't actually tell immediately from the notch here. Quite surprising. Okay, so sorry, walk us through what else is going on here? DR3. Loop dead. It's weird. I thought I had said something just a second ago.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I don't get not only why it exists, but why you would really want it. What is it though seems to be what eight jaguar cores then um with an amd r7 350 gpu okay um maybe it's intended for like, I don't know. I'm really struggling here because I think you're muted or something, Luke. I'm trying to get my bird to go away. I'm sorry. No worries. Do you want me to just talk through this one? Do you want me to just talk through this one? No, you're good.
Starting point is 00:42:43 You're good. I, I, it's, it's weird. I think the ultimate answer is like, people don't really know. Um, cause there's, there's debate about what it is. There's some theory that it could be the, the SOC, but, uh, the RAM thing is weird. Like, why would it exist in this configuration? Like maybe this is the board that they used in the, um, uh, what are those? The, like the, like dev boxes that people get before the console comes out um like maybe this is the board they were using in that for some reason uh that that could explain
Starting point is 00:43:12 the ram thing like maybe this is just a really early version and they hadn't hadn't fully converted over yet i don't know but um yeah unless some official information comes out and is like yes this is definitely that i could see some people wanting to like collect it for that reason but outside of that like i i don't why would you why would you want this yeah um there's this chewy arrow box mini pc that uses a very similar motherboard to the xbox one s um so you know that's an example of what someone might do with a product like this like maybe they would try to you know build like a weird knockoff console or something i mean given how bad amd's jaguar cores are by modern standards
Starting point is 00:44:00 i would not expect performance to be very good at all. But, um... Like, there's comments on this article of the Chewy Arrowbox. Like, one of the first comments is, given how god-awfully the Jaguar-based AM1 chips aged, I'd void-list, like, the plague. With that said... I think that's fairly well said. With that said, it's $125 US
Starting point is 00:44:24 for a motherboard cpu and gpu i mean the cpu and gpu ain't anything special but you always got to look at things within the context of what else you can get for that price and you're looking at some pretty aging hardware for like that's it man you got to get one one you gotta do a build with it oh oh we've already got this on order 100 100 like we're we're gonna try it i bet the power consumption is just like terrible yeah i i don't i yeah i don't i would i would just go used at that point like if i was trying to build a a cheap computer i would just go used and probably get better stuff anyways um do you guys want to hear a uh a really weird conspiracy theory that i kind of feel like i shouldn't even talk about because i'm pretty sure it's nonsense uh let's
Starting point is 00:45:19 have a look here though so this is posted by spartaman64 on the forum a redditor claimed nvidia's russia branch cancelled the 30 series launch and scalped the gpus instead um according to the post the russian nvidia store like many others around the world sold out entirely within moments of going live except it wasn't actually sold the launch was allegedly canceled before any cards were sold with um this user uh okay so this is over on nvidia.com being told that it was due to production failures with an indefinite weight let's go ahead and pull this up here yeah there you go tech mob i think all the russian customers need an official explanation right now. Okay, what else is going on here? According to photos on Russian social media,
Starting point is 00:46:09 the address the cards were shipped to matches the address of NVIDIA's Russian distributor, D-House, on launch day. This, combined with inappropriate call-outs and bragging on social media, has led to claims that NVIDIA's Russian arm or their distributors canceled the launch in order to provide influential or simply high paying customers with the cards at the expense of everyday customers in Russia. There's a lot of he said, she said going on here and Nvidia's official response is,
Starting point is 00:46:35 and this is machine translated from Russian to English, "'Friends, at the moment in Russia, "'as in the rest of the world, "'the demand for GeForce RTX 30 products "'significantly exceeds the available volume of goods. I'll stop that now. Nvidia's online stores worldwide operate in reduced functionality mode and we're working with partners to improve product availability in the coming weeks.
Starting point is 00:46:54 We will share all the necessary information in our community. Stay tuned for updates. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Okay. Um. Hmm. The thread and threads like it look like they've been subject to vote manipulation via bots so this is this is a proper mess whether or not this actually happened is definitely remains to be seen and it's possible we will never actually find out exactly what went down. Unless it's proven true.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I think if it's not proven true, it'll always just be this weird thing that was... I don't suspect it will be proven false. In other big news, OnePlus co-founder Carl Pei has left the company. The statement said, after nearly seven years at OnePlus, I've made the difficult decision to say goodbye.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Pei, who co-founded OnePlus in late 2013 with Pete Lau, has been the public face of the company since its launch and played an instrumental role in designing the OnePlus smartphone lineup over the years and also how the company marketed itself. Android Central speculated earlier this week that Pei was leaving the firm because of an alleged internal power struggle between him and lau so lau took an additional
Starting point is 00:48:10 role as senior vice president at oppo bbk group owns oppo realme oneplus and vivo and oneplus has always avoided questions about its ownership structure they kind of branded themselves as like a scrappy underdog even though it like didn't make themselves as like a scrappy underdog, even though it like didn't make any sense because no scrappy underdog can make a phone at a reasonable price. And they like weren't for sure. Pei has said that he left the company because OnePlus has been his singular focus
Starting point is 00:48:36 for the last seven years. It says he's looking forward to taking some time off to decompress and then he'll figure out what to do next. I actually kind of, just my very limited experience with OnePlus, I kind of wonder if there's some truth to Android's central speculation
Starting point is 00:48:52 because I actually dealt with Carl almost exclusively as the face of the company up until I would say about one and a half, two years ago. And then all of a sudden, there was like a big sort of thing about uh pete lau doing his first keynote in english and then he all of a sudden it went from carl being the only one who was at events to pete was the only one at events and then now carl's gone it's like yeah okay that sounds about right um but given that they've never really been very transparent about their their management and
Starting point is 00:49:28 their ownership structure i don't think we'll ever get a better idea of what exactly went down over there yeah yeah that sounds credible enough to me though anything else you really wanted to get to this week? There is one thing that I would really like to get to this week. Not only am I interested, but I feel like if I didn't bring this up, then the Line of Spectacles Flowplane users would disown me. The You Applied at Amazon story. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, i will get to that in a moment first i have to give an update on the drive savers um drama okay yep yeah so i i do i do have to do that so last week basically what i said was hey look i haven't talked to jessa
Starting point is 00:50:21 who claimed that drive savers took credit for her innovative workaround with an Apple speaker IC that allowed a frozen phone to be temporarily booted, all the data to be recovered, and then restored to functionality through a reset. She claimed that DriveSavers took credit in our sponsored video for her solution to that problem. And I basically said, okay, so I'm finding out about this now. I haven't spoken with Jessa. Um, but obviously that's a pretty serious allegation. Uh, here's what she said. Here's what DriveSavers said. Um, you know, right now it's, he said, she said, so I can't really take a take a position here.
Starting point is 00:51:06 What I did do in the week since the last WAN show is reach out to Jessa. She actually posted on our forum and I basically said like, hey, look, yeah, these are these are pretty serious allegations. And it looks like you've got a pretty compelling story here. But what I need in order to take real action on this is some kind of proof that what you say is true and what they say is not. So what she's done is she's created a video about sort of the points of DriveSaver's position on this that she disagrees with. She's also created a post on the forum, which we're going to have linked at the bottom of the video. Sorry, unfortunately, I don't have it there now. So I'm going to add it right now. And I'm going to see
Starting point is 00:51:55 if that actually updates. I'm going to have it right above where the timestamps are going to be. There you go. I've got that on YouTube. And no, I don't have an easy way to update it on floatplane right now. But I'll add it later. I'll add it later. No, I won't because there's no archive. Doesn't matter. The point is, there's a link on YouTube to her post over on the forum, where basically, in a nutshell, I don't have any, there's no smoking gun. But I would say that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence if you kind of get what i mean so there's no there's no silver bullet there's no like hey this is the text message that they sent to me admitting that they stole my technique but there's a lot of uh there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:52:42 claims that drive savers has made that don't seem to quite add up with respect to their in-house capabilities compared to the capabilities of third-party contractors that they use. And it just kind of leads us to believe that there may be something to Jess's story. So as for what I'm going to do, so far we haven't heard from DriveSavers with any definitive proof one way or the other. And we haven't heard from Jessa with any definitive proof one way or the other. going to leave the video up, but we're going to do something that we are able to do under extremely sort of exceptional circumstances. And we are going to replace the video that is there with one that has an edit in it during the time when I'm talking about this technique that basically has text at the bottom that says Jessa Jones from uh from ipad rehab says that this is actually her technique and we're going to have a link in the video description to where you can read through
Starting point is 00:53:50 um you know her statement about you know why why you should believe her side of the story and then what we're going to do moving forward is honestly i just can't deal with this kind of he said, she said nonsense. My life is a drama-free zone. So if I can't operate under an assumption that sponsors and members of the community are all able to be straight with me, then we're just not going to work with any data recovery companies moving forward at all. You know, I just, I have no way of validating who's telling. Yeah, I have no way of validating just 100% unequivocally who is telling me the truth.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And this is one of those things that I just cannot afford to have our company dragged through the mud over because someone is being disingenuous. So that's, um, that's my commitment. I've already told that to Jessa and, um, I've asked, um, I've asked the business team to pass that along to drive savers. Um, I've already, I told Jessa actually that I might make one exception for that. Um, or two exceptions, I guess I told her that I would be open to doing a collab. So not promoting her business or, or drive or device recovery, you know, or anything like that, but just YouTuber to YouTuber, I'd love to do a collab, like maybe just fixing something together. Um, kind of like what we did with Lewis Rossman in the past. And then if deep spar ever came back
Starting point is 00:55:21 to us and wanted to do another video, I think we would work with DeepSpar again just because there was zero drama. They're fantastic. They're so cool. I love what they do. And the feedback from our community was overwhelmingly positive for the tool that we were promoting last time we worked with them. It was a tool that basically used like a cloud connection where, because you can only, like you can only test the characteristics of so many failing hard drives. A hard drive has to fail in order for you to, in order for you to perform analytics on it and, you know, observe its behavior. So what DeepSpar built was this tool that you can use to record the characteristics of
Starting point is 00:56:10 the failing drive that you have or the failed drive that you have and compare it to other drives that were failing or failed and help you determine what the problem is. And then it would add that data to their collective data on their servers so that other people could benefit from it, making it like kind of a tool that gets better and better the more people in the data recovery community use it. It was like super cool idea. And apparently it ended up selling really well. Our feedback from our community was really good. So we would work with them again.
Starting point is 00:56:38 But beyond that, we're just not going to do it anymore. I don't need that drama in my life. It feels almost like, I don't even remember their names but those two brothers that just like make fake drama on youtube constantly oh yeah i'm not gonna say their names i heard if you say that in too much they appear they have three times in the mirror that way that that the other thing too is that as long as i don't mention any names then uh i have plausible deniability for it being any two brothers so yeah two two brothers and there's grandmas and they fight them and there's a meteor coming towards the earth two brothers yeah it should be it should be fine youtuber drama is probably much more interesting to youtubers than to ltt viewers says last digit of pi yeah yeah probably yep um no it is not like the old annotations
Starting point is 00:57:33 so we would have to it's a whole it's a whole thing uh wait what why is ltt's name ruined what are you guys even talking about in floatplane chat i think i think we're okay i think we're uh i think we're i think we're pretty good i think we're pretty good on uh on that all right well i think that's pretty much it other than i should probably have a look at a couple of super chats i saw a couple of big ones come in i need to make sure i at least hit those al baker says many wan shows ago linus asked whether he should play final fantasy 6 with a mod which both fixes bugs and ups the difficulty oh yeah i played through about half the game um it was okay it was different um yeah it was all right wait are you starting super chats yeah no what why i supplied at amazon line it's applied at amazon right it's applied at amazon right at amazon okay all right all right all right all right all right
Starting point is 00:58:25 oh okay all right all right all right all right so back when i had already decided to leave ncix but i hadn't actually i think the way the timeline goes is that i hadn't actually told them that i was going to be leaving yet um i wanted to explore my options so that I would have some idea of how strong my negotiating position was going to be. Because my plan, I had already sought legal advice to determine whether or not the Linus Tech Tips channel could be argued belonged to me. I was going to make the argument that it's in my name and therefore was treated at NCIX as sort of a personal project. I was going to make the argument that I did a lot of the work on it on my own time. I informed the lawyer that I was compensated for that time, but not at like an above minimum wage rate necessarily,
Starting point is 00:59:21 because the amount that I was compensated per video was like i think accounted for like maybe an hour and change of time but a lot of the videos took much much longer than that it wasn't significantly better than mine than it than it was it wasn't very good yeah so um basically i gave a lawyer all this information they They went, no, I think with all that in mind, it's the intellectual property of NCIX. You have no real claim to make here. And I was like, OK, that's fair. It was worth finding out. So what I had decided was I wanted it and I needed to figure out a way to what chips I could offer in return. And I thought that if it was as simple as,
Starting point is 01:00:10 okay, well, you can either give it to me or I can go work for your competitor, they would give it to me. And the way that I saw it, because one of my ideas for uh surviving back then was that ncix should um revise their business model to be more like actually very similar to what amazon does with their with their drop points now i forget what they're branded where you just like have something shipped to like a drop box and you just go pick it up yeah yeah local pickups um i wanted ncix to shift to a model where we had like these little tiny hole in the wall stores that were basically not a storefront at all. Like we could have a service section if we wanted to, because that's fairly lucrative, even in a small town. And then just kind of like a small warehouse in the back. And then we would only stock like the two most popular items from each category. popular items from each category so if someone really did want to come in and configure a custom computer then you could configure a custom computer as long as it used kingston ram in this speed and one of two capacities and like you know what i mean like it's like probably mostly just beneficial
Starting point is 01:01:16 to the service center so that they have something to like throw in when they pretty much and then other than that we would just have trucks that went back and forth across the country so that every, you know, two to three days, one of the one of the big warehouses would have a transfer going out to each one. And people across the country would be able to get items in just like a couple of days without paying for shipping, because it would be we would just kind of absorb that as part of our cost of doing business. Apparently, they're called Amazon lockers. So anyway, that was one of my ideas. NCIX didn't really seem to see Amazon as the big threat, which is hilarious to me now, because Amazon is a monster in PC hardware, even though their site is horrendous for finding it. And so I thought that one of the things that I could do to strengthen my negotiating position, and or just make sure that I could do to strengthen my negotiating position and or just
Starting point is 01:02:05 make sure that I was able to make money after I was no longer working at NCIX if they didn't ultimately give me the channel because I was going to leave no matter what was to try to get a job at Amazon. And I knew from talking to people who had applied there that getting a job there was notoriously difficult. There's like this whole long interview process and it's like a bunch of interviews and like they won't even look at you if you don't have certain credentials. And so I did find a job that I thought was right up my alley and it was like a social media coordinator. And I was like, oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, I don't have the bachelor's degree that they say they want. But boy, do I ever have a fair bit of experience in social media, which remember, guys, this
Starting point is 01:02:50 was eight years ago. This was before, you know, every Zoomer and their dog had, you know, a weird throwaway Instagram account where they repost memes with like, you know, 100,000 followers or whatever. repost memes with like, you know, 100,000 followers or whatever. Having social media, like proven social media success was kind of a big deal. And so I had my Twitter account, I had these two YouTube channels that had significant followings, and I applied. And I mean, that's kind of the end of the story. Amazon had an opportunity to hire me and did not even reply to my application, presumably because I didn't have the right credentials,
Starting point is 01:03:39 even though if they knew what the right credentials were for a social media coordinator, they would have recognized them on my resume. In fact, if you look at my LinkedIn, I don't remember all the conversations from back then. There was a lot. If you didn't get the channel. What would you have done? Would you have started a new channel? what would you have done would you have started a new channel right so ultimately what i what i had what i told ncix was that i would go to memory express who i did have an offer from um or i would go move down south and i would go work at new egg and new egg and memory express for um just sort of like emotional reasons,
Starting point is 01:04:25 I think were a lot more effective anyway. Like I don't think they would have understood that Amazon was the threat that it was. Yeah. And so ultimately we did get the channel. As for what I would have done if we didn't get the channel, oh man, I would have been okay. WD offered me a job a little while after
Starting point is 01:04:42 with the team that I think ended up getting dissolved. So I don't know how long that would have lasted but as for you guys i don't know i don't know what the heck you and ed would have done yeah ed and i were kind of like suicide pacted on that plan at that point i think what we would have had to do is start the channel fresh and we would have just had to eat a lot more macaroni and cheese honestly i don't necessarily think it would have been that bad the first man we had 200 000 subscribers when we started and 200 000 subscribers back then was a lot more than it is now and i guess you probably wouldn't have been able to get away with like posting a video saying that you were going somewhere else
Starting point is 01:05:23 but i just i think a lot of people would have followed is all i'm i'm really saying um like even back then like the community was so much smaller and so much more tight-knit like you'd see the same people commenting on videos across the board because we just really honestly didn't get that many views back then that's true and the forum would have helped us with that. But I think if I recall correctly, when we started, like it definitely would be harder, but yeah, we wouldn't have had the domain even like we wouldn't have had LinusTechTips.com. We'd have had to completely rebrand. And remember, too, that YouTube's discoverability was not as good back then. Like nowadays, we can start a new channel, make a video. And the fact that it has my face in the
Starting point is 01:06:04 thumbnail, all of a sudden, instead of fact that it has my face in the thumbnail, all of a sudden, instead of getting four views, it's getting 40,000 views because the algorithm knows. So it just wasn't that sophisticated back then. I think it would have been really tough. I think it would have been doable. I definitely, I agree with the like, we'd be, I don't remember exactly how you said it, eating macaroni or eating Kraft dinneron or whatever longer but i still think it would have been i still think it would have been possible um so if you guys want to see what my resume looked like that i that i sent to amazon it's basically my linkedin profile the one thing that's new now is that i have founder linus media group inc and um it looks And I haven't seen mine in so long. Yeah, so this is great.
Starting point is 01:06:49 About. I am a self-driven social media enthusiast with extensive experience and success on YouTube. In the past seven years, I have built multiple channels that now total 2 million subscribers and 200 million views. Wow, Linus, that is, you know, that's very impressive.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Good job, young boy. I think you're actually inaccurate now. Rough. I saw someone posted a tweet the other day that ended up getting a lot of traction where they said they updated their Twitter bio before they updated their linkedin and that should say a lot about like what the current like uh like hiring and recruitment space looks like and i'm like you know yeah to be honest like i haven't heard the last time anyone cared about linkedin at all
Starting point is 01:07:40 you know what i don't know because i get a lot of messages and stuff on linkedin from people that are like well i had no idea how to get in touch with you and i like i'm trying to get in touch with you here and what do you have no idea to get in how to get in touch with me the email is literally on the about tab on the youtube channel like what are you talking about um maybe still really big with a certain demographic or something boomers yep because it was super popular around that time like that that would have been 2012 2013 and it was it was huge back then i mean thought it was very it's a it's a big business now though like yeah i don't know man oh man i love my i love my profile i i put like the least amount of effort possible
Starting point is 01:08:27 into my Linus Media Group entry. Linus Media Group is committed to, what is this? Is committed to delivering fun, engaging social media and video marketing solutions. That's what I wrote seven years and 10 months ago and I have never touched it again. Your NCIX entries are like so long and well written i i feel like i remember you and von working on these uh no i did this uh i'm i'm going to be totally honest with you
Starting point is 01:08:56 um i actually did this oh i must have contacted amazon after i had to after i had told ncix i was leaving then because i remember working on this at work while i was just like checked out and had already told them that i was leaving and my main job was just to like be there and answer questions for my replacement so i didn't really have anything to do so that must be the order of operations scroll down look at your publication section publications yeah what are publications you Scroll down quite a bit. You have to get below education. You have to get all the way down to the bottom.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Three publications. Fast as possible, Linus Tech Tips and NCIX Tech Tips. Look at the descriptions too, though. Fast, informative videos about technology. YouTube video blog sponsored by NCIX, developed and hosted by yours truly. Flagship YouTube channel for NCIX.com, developed, administrated, and hosted by me truly flagship youtube channel for ncix.com developed administrated and hosted by me what a nerd why am i such a nerd so we both have just like flagrantly false information on our linkedin i love that i have one recommendation one single
Starting point is 01:10:01 recommendation on linkedin from uh from taryn so for those of you who don't know who Taron is, I totally get it. Who is that guy? So he works as director of sales at Corsair for North America. And he was for the latter part of my NCIX career, he was like my boss. But then he was gone. And that was one of the reasons that I ultimately decided to leave because he was sort of a voice of sanity in the chaos. And the fact that he was gone, I was like, Oh, that this sucks. So yeah, he was the one who was there for the roast. And I had wanted him there not because his public speaking was amazing. As far
Starting point is 01:10:42 as I knew, he did a great job, though. I had wanted him there just because I wanted someone who knew me as a young professional, and I use the term professional very loosely. His recommendation he wrote me on LinkedIn is very nice though. It's more reflective of his later experience with me, I suspect. I remember him telling me at some point on like a business trip, like, you know, you need to learn to just shut up sometimes. Some peace and quiet would be nice i don't know i was just i was just jazzed i was like we never hang out he's like yeah
Starting point is 01:11:17 well why do you think that is now we do whenever we get a chance but it's tough because he lives down in the states that's funny oh boy all right so let's do a couple more okay hopefully the story lived up to your expectations let's do a couple more super chats npgrx says in a youtube story you showed a 3090 strix with an ek water block totally loved the look of the back plate uh it was an it was an ek1 it was a mirror ek1 um let's see you're super blue luke uh there's a comment from uh i can't really do much about it yeah all right got it robert male says join the ltt minecraft server parkour iron rank challenges daily thanksgiving to halloween from me all right thanks robert parkour iron rank what did he what yeah i don't know what it means do i look like i know how to play minecraft i'm like i'm in my mid-30s rylan says linus i wanted to say thank
Starting point is 01:12:16 you to you and your team for all you do your videos helped me start my own small it business at 16 helping out my neighborhood hey that's freaking awesome and i'm about i'm starting my it career in the u.s army heck yeah man uh tiberius says linus when are you going to make women's underwear for ltstore.com if i'm going to waste money buying my wife underwear she won't wear i might as well spend the money to support you guys okay so we have tentatively greenlit the project there's just there's so many people asking about, it'll be a small production run, but we're going to put the work into it.
Starting point is 01:12:50 We're going to do it. I pretty much guarantee you it's going to sell out immediately. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. As actually, I think I might've convinced Yvonne to let me upload the vlog that we shot making that one-off pair that she has. It's pretty funny because we like made a lot of mistakes and stuff like that. So
Starting point is 01:13:11 sorry, floatplane exclusive, floatplane exclusive. I was actually going to put it on the Linus cat tips channel. I could put it up early on floatplane though. That works. Cause I was thinking like, where else would you put that? Yeah. yeah. But maybe cat tips make sense. Channel says, about ways to support phone OSs longer. 15 Fairphone 2 shipped with Android 5.1 now has 7.1 despite no SoC support. And it has a beta for 9, could mean support till 2022. To finance it, the phone is super repairable, spare equals revenue and a bit overpriced. Yeah, that's a fair way to attack that. Theorica says, not much to say hope you and all at lmg are great oh and fp is still upset luke did not talk like a pirate when the bird was perched on his shoulder last week next time
Starting point is 01:13:57 our what do you think luke are you gonna do it are you gonna talk like a pirate i'm really bad at that kind of stuff um and it would probably be super annoying um but i don't know maybe my morning it's been fun having the bird randomly come to visit me but i don't want it to like take over the show my morning woo says my girlfriend finally gave me permission to build a new pc i'm waiting for the ryzen 5900X and I'm going to pair it with an RTX 3080. You better get on that RTX 3080. Give it a, yeah, good luck. The Daily Dan says, can't you compromise on the pants and make regular pants that normal people will wear, but include an iron-on LTT butt patch for people like Linus? That's not a bad idea, Daily Dan. That's not a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Jerry says, you know Amazon has expert installation on their electronics, including computer hardware. What if you, unlike Lyle, build an entire PC this way? We had actually considered doing that. I can't get down to the States right now and I don't think they offer the service in Canada. So yes, it is actually on our list of stuff to do. It's just, it's really hard to do it right now and i don't think they offer the service in canada so yes it is actually on our list of stuff to do it's just it's really hard to do it right now alex the psychotherapist says i wanted
Starting point is 01:15:11 to say i'm a huge fan i love your work i hope you keep up the good work what happened between you and madrinas it seems their whole company is going under so i don't know anything about that drama um madrina's coffee going under i don't know what is this backup of about madrina's coffee are they shop uh cold brew coffee can you okay as far as i can tell you can just like buy stuff uh i mean i could be wrong ncix's site was up and running and you could like buy stuff up until the very end uh i don't know i mean we didn't cut them off i'll say that much but we clearly don't get sponsorship from them anymore so i guess they don't like us because we're bad people i don't know i don't know their twitter's still active active. Like, I have no idea. Ninth Prey says,
Starting point is 01:16:10 Why did you buy the domain UFDstore.com, robbing UFDtech of their store? Seems a bit shady that you did that. Are you an idiot? Do you know UFD at all? Like, Brett bought UFDstore.com and redirected it to LTT store. I didn't do that. Sheesh. All right. Well, I think that's it for today.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Live Bacteria asks, do you know who the Yogs cast are? Completely random question. I guess I've heard of them. There you go. Oh, oh no. Hi. Oh, snap.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Apparently we did buy it. Okay, well, that's good to know. But we have offered to give it to Brett. So whenever he wants it we'll give it to him okay uh okay maybe we shouldn't do that next time what did you buy ufdstore.com oh my goodness Okay. Okay, bye. What? Oh, my gosh. That's funny. Yes, I still got into it. It looks better now, by the way. We are officially a big enough company that like that just happens.
Starting point is 01:17:38 And I, the CEO, have no freaking idea what's going on. have no freaking idea what's going on. This is why I tend to be a little bit more forgiving when Intel has some scandal where the marketing people say something that the engineers obviously wouldn't agree with. Because I'm like, yeah, it's probably just someone doing something and people who know better don't know about it.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I believe that that's a thing that could happen what a beautiful example oh my goodness oh man you and i both were like that's dumb wow i think i called that super chatter an idiot even though they gave me like five dollars that's what i get and they were right oh man get wrecked i'm officially shady all right that's it for the show today we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel ladies and gentlemen consider this my apology video for that big awkward right there all right help me out luke you gotta end this uh bye sorry forgot my standard thing Outro Music

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