The WAN Show - NVIDIA's CEO is FAKE - WAN Show August 13, 2021

Episode Date: August 16, 2021

Sign up for Setapp and get a free 7-day trial at https://stpp.co/WANshow Check out our other Podcasts: Carpool Critics Movie Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt-o... Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119 - Note: Times may be off due to change of sponsors, sorry!) [0:00] Chapters. [1:15] Intro. [1:44] Topic #1: Jensen was fake ALL ALONG!     3:42 How the keynote was created.     4:21 Nvidia's response to an article.     10:13 Poll: Which Jensen was fake.     20:52 Shrek "deepfake".     24:52 Steve promoting LTTstore ft. Linus's rant. [26:28] Topic #2: Gigabyte's PSUs catching fire.     27:13 Newegg bundling dangerous PSU's.     30:13 How bundling directly help companies.     39:12 Gigabyte's response.     42:26 Half of Steve's PSUs failed.     44:08 Discussing Newegg reviews.     46:06 Most those in ETU cheaped out on the PSU. [47:24] Sponsors.     47:33 Build Redux PC Builder.     48:31 Ridge Wallet.     49:15 Honey eCommerce Coupons. [--] Topic #2 Cont.: Gigabyte's PSUs catching fire.     49:52 Discussing PSU selections on ETU.     52:42 Anthony defends his PSU choice. [53:16] Topic #3: Do not sue, for Amazon pays for damages. [57:31] LTTstore new merch. [59:00] Topic #4: Facebook shuts down researchers. [1:00:19] Topic #4.5: House bill against Apple and Google. [1:03:29] Topic #5: Asus's RTX3070-8G-NOCTUA.     1:04:18 Noctua dethroned by Phanteks fans.     1:05:45 Discussing Samsung's new phones. [1:07:35] Superchats. [1:21:27] Wrapping up. [1:22:09] Outro. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that goal to beat your personal best? Keep chasing it. Drive your ambition mitsubishi motors what is up guys welcome to the wan show we've got a great show lined up for you guys today with the big headline topic obviously being that jensen's kitchen jensen's kitchen was a lie and video reveals that the gtc 2021 keynote was fake it was fake it was a rendering it was a simulation so we're gonna i actually haven't seen the footage uh luke has looked through it and he is gonna play a little game with me where i'm gonna try and find the fake jensen i'm actually

really excited about this in other news yeah it'll be interesting new egg has allegedly been bundling bad power supplies like not faulty but just terrible bad power supplies with graphics cards in an effort to dump them this was unearthed by steve from gamers nexus and so you know that it's going to be good let me just say the sparks the sparks have flown there are flown sparks i believe quite literally right yes absolutely yeah yeah yeah what else we got asus might be teaming up with noctua to create a rtx 3070 and there's lots of samsung stuff we're going to talk about it oh there's tons of samsung stuff and some of it yeah some of it's pretty awesome all right let's roll this intro why don't we jump right into the headline topic nvidia revealed uh wait where is the uh

where where's the actual original article from this thing hold on i can oh i got it tech radar here we go so tech radar posted this article i actually read it earlier this week jensen's kitchen was a lie nvidia reveals that their gtc 2021 keynote was nearly 100 fake and okay luke is it is it worth us taking a second and having a look at nvidia's video here showing the behind the scenes um that i i think i this whole thing is extremely confusing because the wording used by all parties involved is either extremely vague incorrect or just like not how you should word that because it's it seemed borderline intentionally confusing let me let me show them let me can i just can i just show them the teaser then just show them the teaser yes okay i'm gonna show them the teaser all right here we go.

GTC first in. Okay. I'm just going to mute this. So check this out. Check this out. They had this goal. They had this goal where they wanted to create Jensen's kitchen and Jensen himself. Okay. Hold on.

Blah, blah, blah. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. So we are going to make virtual Jensen Kitchen. Real-time materials. Real-time textures. Okay, digital twin of the thing.

Wait, this is the wrong one. Where's the bloody... This one. Here we go. There we go. Okay. So they show us how they constructed Jensen's Kitchen using this Omniverse thing. Okay, Bionic Vision Lab, blah blah

etc. Hold on, where's the bloody footage? No, this is the original keynote. What am I looking for? It's all in the doc. The like the three later timestamped YouTube links are all sections of that video that talk about this. Okay.

I just want to find... Oh, here it is. Here it is. So here's where they're creating the fake Jensen. This is super cool. So here we got the... There we go. So they put him in this like huge camera rig.

This is amazing. They take all these pictures of him and then boom. We get fake J jensen leather jacket and everything they worked on like how the materials stretch okay so we got don't look too much further into it okay we got look at look at this look at this they're removing they're removing like the hair and everything crazy town don't look don't look too much further okay all right all right i won't look any further into it anyway so so the point is okay original article title original article title jensen's kitchen was a lie nvidia reveals gtc 2021 keynote nearly 100 fake right okay remember that original title

you saw what they were doing they got them in this in this truck it's a truck that pulls up to jensen's house they take pictures of them all this kind of stuff they got really professional people modeling them etc etc um now we have there's an update to this article that nvidia responded to the article remember the title is saying nearly 100 fake all that kind of stuff yeah nvidia reaches out and says in quotes through all but 14 seconds of the hour and 48 minute presentation from timestamp to timestamp yeah bong himself spoke in the keynote the company's blog post now reads oh okay spoke spoke i don't know if it's just voice or not because they have technology that can simulate voice so i i don't know and i'll go into why it's a little confusing because the first time i read

that i was like oh it's super obvious right but then you see and i'll show you timestamps for this later you see different model versions of him that look incredibly realistic but then there's other ones that don't so i'm going to give you three time stamps okay and you're going to have to guess the 14 seconds that they are claiming okay so your first time stamp starts at 37 22 okay okay so let me bring let me bring it up here 37 22 okay and i have to i guess i have to do it without listening to it okay so here we go uh 37 22 and i watch you can you can listen to it you can listen to it so it won't make a difference okay so he's just in a little tiny corner though yes i allowed to watch it more than once yeah sure okay and i'm not looking at chat right now

guys because i don't want i don't want it to tip me off i don't want you guys to tell me which ones are the the simulated jensen and which ones aren't as we're going through this i want people to remember the original title gtc 2021 keynote nearly 100 fake yeah you got to remember the original title okay okay let me know as you're jumping through these timestamps okay all right hit me with the next one 54 15 okay 54 15 okay four more seconds here um okay so you're still not sure right I mean honestly They both looked kind of fake I don't think he was breathing in the first one And in the second one

I'm just going to watch the second one One more time here It looks like the way his hair is moving Around his neck Is a little kind of unnatural But he also might just have a lot of Hairspray in it Okay okay interesting i've got

some people in uh in floatplane chat trying to call which one they think is fake there's a fair amount of people that think it's 54 15 um now i want you to jump to 102 41 102 41 all right i'm Yeah. Here I go, boys. Oh, that looks very fake. Are you sure? His legs look like... Yeah, okay. Okay. Well, I said that one looked very fake before he disappeared.

But then that also could have just been a VFX thing. It could have. Um, yeah, body movements when you're on camera are tough, right? So maybe, maybe try to like blow up the video and,

and focus in a little bit more on his, on his face specifically. Um, okay. But I'm at a different time stamp now earlier so okay hold on a second i'm i'm blowing it up i'm blowing it up i'm looking at stuff here Okay, hold on a second. I'm blowing it up.

I'm looking at stuff here. I got to confess, it's very challenging because apparently part of the process, I do know this already, apparently part of the process was they actually recorded his mannerisms as well. So if he has a particular way of fidgeting, it's supposed to fidget in the same way that he does. Based on audio, it's really cool.

Okay, so I have to pick one? And this is not one of those misleading challenges where by picking one, I screw myself over? Like it's one of them? One of these is... Well, we'll talk about that. But one of these is well we'll talk about that but one of these is definitely it okay okay uh can i have the timestamps one more time i'm sorry you guys can play along you guys can

play along here i'll link the video uh all right here we go i'm gonna link the video. All right, here we go. I'm going to link the video in the chat. Without reading the chat, I'm defocusing my eyes so that I will not read the chat. It is now linked. Wow, fortunately, YouTube is moving so fast. I don't even have to worry about it. Do you want me to straw poll it? Yeah, sure. Sure.

Hit it with the straw poll. We'll see if you guys get it right. But hit me with those timestamps one more time. 37.22? 37.22. All right. I know what I'm i'm gonna look for this time i'm going for it i'm going for gold okay 37 22 that's kind of cheating because he doesn't say anything oh i wonder if that's my hint maybe that's my hint

um your float plane i'm firing it to you guys. $37.22. All right. That would certainly be the easiest one to do it with. Okay, what's the next one again? $54.15. $54.15. Twitch, I'm going to be dropping into the chat momentarily.

Here it goes. Okay, I'm looking at be dropping into the chat momentarily. Here it goes. Okay. I'm looking at 54.15 now. I'm on YouTube now. Okay. Okay. I'm ready for the next one. 102.41.

102.41. And this is the one that's kind of trippy because he, like, disappears in the middle of it but that could just be a visual effect that they're doing some interesting visual effects here yeah okay i'm gonna say that because that last one looks so much like a green screen i'm calling first one i think it's the first one where he's in the corner and doesn't say anything because i'm pretty sure i saw him reading the prompter in the second one so i know i know it's not that one and then the third one i feel like you put in just to throw

me for a loop so i'm not doing it i'm taking the first one okay okay are we gonna show the straw poll results first let them vote uh we can yeah all right let's do it i fired the straw poll over to you okay wow it's really even really okay let's show these results ladies and gentlemen let's see what you guys thought oh wow i'm actually stunned i mean this gives us some idea if the goal for nvidia was to be validated that it's very hard to tell the difference i mean i think that pretty much says it all and i mean i'm looking for things that i wouldn't even expect an average person to look for like the fact that i'm watching for if the host is reading a teleprompter because that's something that i would recognize very easily um

not everyone would think about that unless they i mean the machine learning would would go off of mannerisms right so if he practiced in front of a teleprompter they i okay i guess that's true but i i doubt they would be able to get that exactly right unless they basically recorded his rehearsal and played it back which is kind of that's kind of a hack i consider that kind of a cheat that's not a simulated person that's a recording of a person that's mocap that's we have that already that's not new so that's that's my that's my defense of of of that if they did that i think it's i think it's which uh which which one did you vote for again i said the first one was fake the first one so that was 37 22 um what i'll tell you is the one that won the poll

so the most votes came in for 54 15 yep that one is not it that one is not it so it was the last one then i will also say that the one that you chose was not it really So it was the last one then? I will also say that the one that you chose was not it. Really? So it was the last one. It was the last one. Oh, interesting. I mean, I did say the first time around, I jumped out and I was like,

that looks really unnatural. But I... It's mostly, I will give them this. It's mostly the body movement that looks unnatural. Yeah. I think they, I don't know if i want to say cheat um but i think they give themselves they put themselves in a beneficial position i'll say that much by having him so far away way out yeah um so his face is not as easy to see um Now, again, they only say speak. And if you go to...

Give me one second. Okay. Go to 102.28. Sure. Yep. Done. Sure, yep, done. Here you can see I'm reading the teleprompter. And play from there, yeah. Yeah, okay. So you see how it grabs him?

He looks like he's changed and slightly displaced, and then the kitchen has a big difference as well. Look at the side of the frame. Replay that shift and pay attention to the edge. Oh, to the edge oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you can see it so everything changes right yeah so i had to i had to time stamp and i think they did this properly actually but i made sure that the time stamp right there show that change so you see a noticeable change which makes me think that the rest of the presentation is not simulated and the fact that this can is confusing at all is a huge credit to the people that worked on this to

be real yeah um watching the the kitchen deconstruction is like really cool they pointed out that a bunch of the things in the kitchen yeah are like there's a a can of like cooking oil or something i don't know exactly what it was but it was rebranded um to like an nvidia product and like there's a there's a little lego figure um of jensen and there's like a few other things in there that are kind of cool but yeah once you see that part of the transition where it noticeably shifts yeah it makes it so that this next part being the the fake part is a little bit more obvious right that makes sense it stood out to me mostly because of the body movement but there is some confusing parts so the continued time stamps that i have further on in the doc oh interesting yeah so this is where it's like okay they said it was just 14

seconds and maybe it was if you read if you look at this first one um if you watch it till 2708 which is a little bit of time they show like okay this is the first version of the face that we got they have the 3d model obviously rendered and and sitting there rotating and trying to talk and it's like yeah that's obviously fake yeah um but the guy in the video is saying like yeah it's pretty good but it's not photorealistic. And then they go forward. Sorry, which one am I at? You're at the first one. You got to just tell me the time.

I'm just clicking on it. Give me one sec. I will get it. Oh, no. Live show. 26.30. 26.30. Okay.

All right. So here, let's have a look at this, guys. NVIDIA Omniverse 26. 26 30 i don't see a head talking um just click the link in the doc it's time stamped maybe everything i just said is wrong what is real question mark the link right below that okay right here oh this is a completely different video all right then oh wow yeah that does not look uh doesn't look real at all right so that's the first version that they had right and he says like okay it's not that great or whatever um yeah but once blue jacket guy goes

away yeah and you get to this they they show like example driving and and results. The results is insane. Oh, wow. The result is like bonkers. And this goes on for a little bit and they show a different, a few different versions of this and the like the tuned in versions of what they have is amazing. So basically instead of using an actor for a deep fake, they're using kind of a decent 3D animation as the source for what is essentially then a deep fake. And then they used a mocap actor. Got it.

For the motions. But then like... And this is using AI. Yeah so machine learning and then you see like how good that is because it looks rather incredible right yeah it looks great um now if you uh you don't want to click on the second link give me a sec i'll get you a time snip oh no i'll click the second link now that i now that i know it 28 minutes. The problem is just that I'm having a really hard time seeing the top of my display because of my lights. I actually can't see the tabs up there. It's blinding.

Anyway, the point is, yep, here we go. I'm at it. So they show that incredible example. Yeah. And then they show this. And now I'm like, well, that example was so good. I don't know if this person here is actually him or if it's digitally rendered. Because the previous example was so fantastic.

But what he's saying is that they had him, like, sit there and do these motions. So it's like, okay, this is probably actually him. And they said that they got these motions and stuff three or four days before the keynote which is like wow that's really that's not a lot of time yeah and then it shows him constructing at 28 like 14 15 it shows him specifically constructing that 14 second scene right okay so then i i think it is the 14 seconds okay yeah there it is man pretty cool um it's it's it's cool that it's kind of i wish they were more clear yes but it's cool that it's so confusing because that means they clearly did a

really good job yeah yeah yeah they did they did they did a really darn good job of it that headline uh from tech radar is extremely misleading i tried to i tried to lean into it as much as i could because when you're when you're looking at this connecting to the metaverse video like i said there's versions there's results they have that are like holy cow and this is this is the video that tech radar was watching to write this article okay um and the video is a little confusing um jared's tech just blew my mind you finish your thought and then i'm gonna blow your mind in turn it's gonna be great uh yeah so i i can just i can understand why it was confusing

to tech radar I think they should change their title but after watching this video I like part of me kind of believed you know yeah so okay Jared's text says they need to remake Shrek with this so you basically use the original Shrek as your source right for your deepfake and then you create new higher resolution like photorealistic Shrek and Donkey and Fiona and Farquaad.

Man. That'd be sick. You're like wait so you're deepfaking an animation or are you trying to put that onto something that looks more real? Is that what you're saying? so you're deepfaking an animation or are you trying to put that onto something that looks more real? Is that what you're saying? So you're basically like doing a remaster of Shrek, but with like machine learning, like deepfake technology.

Gotcha. Oh, yeah. Or you could just like remaster it. Just remaster Shrek. But the point, the problem with remastering Shrek is that it's already a masterpiece so it's um it's just not possible it's just not possible but yeah i don't know after watching the connecting in the multiverse video it was it was a little confusing and i i was on the the believe train where i was like maybe they did do the whole thing um but but no apparently it was just the 14 seconds,

which is like kind of confusing because to me that 14 seconds is like almost glaring and like it definitely stands out and not just because he's in a clearly digital space, but because his body movements are kind of obvious and his face doesn't look as perfect as the example data in the connecting in the multiverse video. So then I'm like, wait, what? I i told you i told you that i didn't uh i told you i didn't take that one

because i thought you were trying to throw me for a loop by giving me something so obvious but um you know i that doesn't change that doesn't change the result i still picked the wrong thing and i'm not going to make any excuses for which is really cool actually that's like the coolest part of this whole thing i thought this article was going to make any excuses for that. Which is really cool, actually. That's like the coolest part of this whole thing. I thought this article was going to be a throwaway because I thought you were just going to pick it immediately. XPYR says, Linus, all Pixar renders in animation are extremely high resolution.

You don't need to deepfake it. Okay, two things. Number one, Shrek is DreamWorks animation, not Pixar. And number two is that I'm not talking about resolution. I would be talking about like photorealism, like the, the actual, the textures of it, just because it's high resolution doesn't mean that it is photorealistic. That just means it has a lot of pixels. Um, a black wallpaper, like just zero, zero, zero RGB values.

Wallpaper can be 8K resolution but there's no it's not photorealistic it's just it just has a lot of pixels yeah I don't think this tech would be used for that no it wouldn't absolutely not

absolutely not but it's the kind of thing that might not be impossible like looking at what they did with jensen right where they they had kind of like a cheapo most of the way their model that does the you know the acting or whatever that is animated and then being able to take a photo realistic capture of him and skin it on top of it conceivably that could be done now you would never actually do it for an animated film because the hard part of the animation is making the things move naturally right like that's that's the hard part so you would never take real people doing a thing turn

it into animation and then use that animation as a source for a higher resolution better version of them doing the thing. You would just do it properly in the first place. You wouldn't do it twice. But what I was talking about was if you were to try to remaster it, like a cheap and dirty way to replace Shrek with something else or whatever, I think it could conceivably be done

once machine learning gets advanced enough. That's all I'm trying to say. It seems like the wrong tech, but if they want to do it as like an interesting tech demo, I'm sure they could. Steve jumped into YouTube chat, said, I love you, Linus, and did a super chat for 50 bucks just to say ltdstore.com oh hey uh thanks steve um and thanks for reminding me to click the viewer activity tab where your super chat is not there even though it's clearly here at the top of the chat here um super awesome feature youtube thank you for it's been many weeks and this is still broken oh Oh, that's hilarious. The other super chat I have, you f***ing cheapskate Ian,

is from Tech Tech Potato, Dr. Cuttriss. So we know who's generous in the tech community, okay? Generous is Steve and one-tenth of generous is Dr. Cuttriss. We also know, you know, I'm just going gonna say i think that anand lived in a pretty nice house and uh when he sold the company i think that he probably got like a super awesome another nice house as opposed to uh giving any of it to anyone else. Not that I know anything about that.

That's just my guess. That's my guess. That's what I'm guessing based on that Dr. Cutra sent $5 and Steve from Gamers Nexus sent $50. Gamers Nexus, Linus, we have an idea and need to 3D scan you while you T-pose. It's completely safe. Don't worry.

It reassembles your atoms on the other side. Hey, thanks, Steve. You know what? I'd be happy to send you a T-pose 3D scan i just got to get me i got to get me a 3d scanner all right let's go ahead and jump into our next topic for the day yeah new way you know oh it's great timing because we were about to talk about yeah something that uh this is uh a news item that broke when Steve from Gamers Next has published this video showing gigabyte power supplies quite literally catching on fire. Not one, not two, but three.

I love that. I love the security camera footage mixed in there. That's absolutely beautiful. So what's happening here? and now the problem for me is that as someone who doesn't know exactly how the new egg shuffle works i was not able to independently validate this but so i'm going to say allegedly allegedly new egg has been bundling these power supplies the p750 gm and p850 gm with in-demand graphics cards as a way to dump them onto unsuspecting consumers. Based on Steve's analysis of these power supplies,

they are extremely dangerous and unsuitable for consumer consumption, but they are allegedly selling them anyway and trying to kind of, you know, allegedly selling them anyway and trying to kind of, you know, shift them out to people who might not be savvy and or might be desperate to get their hands on a graphics card. Now, that stuff that you saw in the video, let's just go back and let's watch that again. This is not supposed to happen on a correctly functioning power supply. This should be impossible. Power supplies are supposed to have a ton of safety measures built into them. Everything from overcurrent protection to overvoltage protection to undervoltage protection, short circuit protection. It is not supposed to be possible for a power supply to literally spew out sparks and light on fire in that manner. It's dangerous

for obvious reasons. It's supposed to be inside an enclosed metal case. But the reality of it is there are plenty of people who put non-metallic things inside their computers, little stuffies, things like that. And there are also other parts of the inside of your computer that could potentially be flammable, things like plastics. So whenever one of those things doesn't trip, that's what happens. You end up with power supply go kablooey. And it's not just dangerous to your house and your body, it's dangerous to the rest of your components as well. When a power supply dies, it can very easily cause a surge or a spike in voltage that will damage connected components. So you could lose your motherboard, you could lose your CPU. I mean, the power supply

is directly connected to every component of your computer. And in an ironic twist, you could lose the graphics card that you were trying to buy when you got this bundled power supply. Steve and his team were lucky enough. The sparks didn't go anywhere. And they were not just lucky, but they were wise to be attentive when they were running a power supply test. So that last one that's on their security footage, you can actually see. They have the unit hooked up to a load tester.

So they were very wise to be sitting there monitoring it while it was running but you might not be so lucky now here's the thing it is unlikely that in the course of regular use most gaming machines would trip any one of those protections. I mean, most gaming rigs pull only a couple hundred or a few hundred watts under full load, except for one small problem. Those power supplies are being actively bundled with some of the only GPUs on the planet that could potentially trip those kinds of protection circuits. Which is epic. That's the problem. I mean, aside from, you know, trying to move out a bad moving product. Now, to be clear, this type of strategy is not a new thing. I remember having a really irate

conversation with an NVIDIA rep a long long time ago where i basically went like uh you know i was talking about i was like yeah we had a great quarter we moved x number of these and they're like i don't want to hear about how many and i forget exactly what graphics card it was at the time but it was it was when nvidia was really struggling i think it was man man, was it Fermi? I mean, it must have been. NVIDIA was really struggling during the Fermi generation. Or was it, man, was it 280? Was it pre-Fermi? I can't remember. The point was we were talking about NCIX, one of the anomalies, one of the weird things about it is they moved pound for pound a ridiculously disproportionate number of high-end graphics cards you know 600 700 graphics cards remember when that qualified as top of the line uh they moved a ridiculously disproportionate number of

them in the country for how many people live here for one thing and for the size of the business that they did overall like they were kind of like a boutique pc integrator in that way and i remember getting this like irate answer back that's like well how many whatever the equivalent back then of like a gt a gt 10 30 was well how many of those have you moved unless you guys can get your numbers up for those, I'm not going to be able to get you any allocation of the good stuff. So the point I'm trying to make is that it is extremely common for brands and retailers to bundle together hot moving items and other items,

whether it's something that is overpriced. And so you're trying to mask the overpriceness on one thing with a discount on another thing, whether it is undesirable, hopefully not whether it's dangerous. So yeah, usually overpriced or otherwise undesirable. Oh yeah, and the last reason that you might try to bundle things is because you're trying to hit some kind of quota.

So the way the MDF programs work for companies like NVIDIA, if I recall correctly, didn't work this way, at least for us. But I know for a fact that Intel's did. The way it worked was you had certain quotas that you were supposed to hit for certain either SKUs or product segments. either SKUs or product segments. So K, for example, at NCIX, if we sold a 2600, we were like, yay, we made $6. But if we sold a 2600K, all of a sudden, yay, we made $6. But also it contributed towards our quota that we had to hit to get our MDF or our marketing funding that we could spend on activities like NCIX Tech Tips. And by spend, what I mean is it's money that you get allocated on the back end from Intel and you put it towards approved marketing exercises that you then pay yourself for out of that pool. It's very common. And before the chat blows up, no, it's not exclusive to Intel. AMD has basically the exact same program. Don't kid yourself. Microsoft's program was excellent as well. So that's how you actually make money. I mean, if you're ever wondering why you go into

the mom and pop computer store on Main Street or whatever, and their prices suck, and they have no stock and no selection, well, that's why. Because if you don't hit a certain type of volume, you're not a player, and you're not going to make any money because all you get is the upfront profit. You don't get the backend that actually drives profitability in this business. So this practice is not uncommon, but to do it with an item that is unsafe would demonstrate either abominable ignorance on the part of Newegg and Gigabyte

or at worst, malice, because selling a product bundled with a product that is the most likely thing I can think of to make it fail in the way that would be very bad is terrible. With that said, there are certain manners in which a power supply can be loaded

that are extremely unlikely to occur in the real world. So the odds are, if you have one of these power supplies, it's not going to blow up immediately. But the question becomes, do you really want to roll that die? And for me, the answer is no. And the pun was definitely intended get it roll that die because it could light a fire and you could die luke's not listening but it was a very funny joke and he would have laughed if he'd been paying attention sorry i'm looking into something ridiculous uh apparently at at 6 29 in the video and i i had to reaffirm this a bunch of times and the reason why i wasn't

listening to you right there was because i was listening to it um but these extremely unstable power supplies that it's bundled with if one of them pops and you want to rma it you have to send in your graphics card as well really they're sending you something they pretty much know is going to become garbage because like over 50 of the feedback for the graphics card on an on new eggs website is people having failures it's 54 of new egg reviews it's people talking about failures apparently it pops like 60 load they're just ridiculous they know it's going to die and when it dies you just have to keep your garbage or you have to send your graphics card back oh wow so this is obscene like holy what the heck that would indicate that um

we are that sounds like fraud that they're very well aware of what was going on which is i believe this is like a previously standing thing like all bundled things have to be returned yeah together no matter what so that if it's an rma of one of them was a policy at ncix but only if you were returning the item not if the item was actually faulty and you were rmaing it for a replacement that was never the policy that you had to return both items so that's what i was kind of asking the chat is like if you're if you're returning it for a replacement that was never the policy that you had to return both items so that's what i was kind of asking the chat is like if you're if you're returning it for a replacement is this still the case but can i just can i can i hit you with a hot take can i hit you with a hot take luke yeah okay here's my hot take

okay why is the penalty for attempted murder any less than the penalty for murder um okay that's my hot take you penalize people who suck less well that that's exactly it just because you suck at murdering someone doesn't mean that you're not a complete yeah like this this seems just super illegal for like a bunch of reasons but here's the problem here's the problem something here because of the way and this is you feel free to correct me if i'm wrong as far as i know because of the way the law works until someone's house actually blows down blows down until someone's house actually burns down and they suffer any kind of actual material harm, there's no real practical way to go after them for it. That is my understanding. Like if

you were to try to class action the out of Newegg and Gigabyte over this, basically you would have to demonstrate some kind of material harm. And so the most you could possibly hope to get is some kind of compensation for your dead motherboard or CPU or graphics card or whatever else, which Newegg and Gigabyte conveniently make sure won't be an issue because they take your graphics card back when you report that there's an issue with the power supply. So you've been refunded for it.

You've been compensated. But to me, I look at it and I go, well, hold on a second. What about the risk? What about the risk that I never would have signed up for if I had known about this in the first place? What about that? Nothing. Nothing about that. It's attempted murder.

Therefore, it's no big deal why is that help me understand this i don't know this is crazy apparently gigabyte has responded and basically been like uh yeah um not a problem. Apparently they've adjusted the OPP trigger point from 120 to 150% from roughly around 120 to 150% to roughly around 110 to 120%. Okay. So over OPP would be over power protection yeah and that's on both models as far as i can

tell the same thing 120 roughly 250 roughly changed to 110 roughly 220 roughly they are saying the testing is the issue now i did say that there are ways that you can test a power supply. So, for example, one of the ways that we used to be able to separate the men from the boys back in the early days of high-powered graphics cards was a purely 12-volt test. supply up to its basically entire rated current delivery or up to its entire rated power delivery wattage. You would run the entire thing over the 12 volt rail and lots of power supplies struggled with it because they were designed and validated by the manufacturers with some kind of load on 5 volt and 3.3 volt, because there was other equipment in your power supply that would draw from these rails. And so a mark of a well designed power supply was that it could deliver basically all of its power on 12 volt without actually drawing

from those other rails. So you would hook it up in this, in this artificial sort of way to power supply testing equipment instead of using a computer to test it. And reviewers at the time would kind of disclaim these results. They'd say, OK, look, a good result here is the mark of a well-designed power supply, but it's not representative of the real world. And if a power supply fails this test, that's fine because your computer will use 5 volt and 3.3 volt power anyway. But the reason that they tested it in that way is that they were trying to look forward to a time when the 12 volt rail was going to become more and more and more and more important. So just because the methodology might be what's causing the power supply to blow up also there's a lot of anecdotal evidence of these things just blowing up in regular use but just because the methodology

might be what causes it to blow up doesn't mean that there isn't a good reason for that methodology and that it wouldn't point to a deficiency in the design or build quality of the power supply so gigabyte is also offering exchanges for these units. So that is good, but you're getting a tweaked one with an overpower protection trigger point that is lower, which basically just means that it's not going to deliver as much peak power, I guess, which to me doesn't really address the problem,

which is that these power supplies are failing I'm not sure if this is Steve or not necessarily but Gamers Nexus in YouTube chat says lol gigabytes response show they didn't actually understand our testing we'll look closer at it and comment on Monday or

Tuesday which is great but also I would bring us back to the Gamers Nexus slide at 4 minutes and 30 seconds 4 minutes and 35 seconds into the video or tuesday which is great but also i would bring us back to the gamers nexus slide you have four minutes and 30 seconds four minutes and 35 seconds into the video um i haven't i wish i watched this before the show this is super interesting i'm gonna have to watch the whole thing in detail after the show but um just make sure you set it to 2x speed it's half half an hour it's 30 minutes long but steve's testing shows 50 failure okay so there could be something wrong with the testing methodology whatever kind of doubt it um new egg reviews show 54 yes people are going to

respond negatively more often than positively because if you buy a power supply it shows up and it works you're decently unlikely to go back and be like yup it functions yeah um but you're really likely to say something if your power supply freaking explodes blows up and takes out your motherboard yes uh that being said that practically never happened so the fact that it is happening the fact that 54 of new egg reviews are this negative is astonishing fairly down yeah i'm not 100 certain what the survey data column is again i haven't watched the full video but like this is rough uh we also have a super chat from steve he says regarding the testing gigabyte misrepresented us and is twisting it they

claimed we ran it for extended periods but the failures were actually within two minutes almost every single time they either didn't understand or pretended they didn't we're going to be replying on monday also like that's very good please reply on monday i went to newegg.com specifically not.ca because i believe that's where they got these numbers from yeah i typed in power supply and the first two things that came up were EVGA 600 BQ 110 and then Seasonic Focus GX 850. I'm checking their responses and everything's basically fine. Well, yeah. Yep.

There's some issues with like DOA on the EVGA one, but most people are happy with it. And the Seasonic one is rated super highly, not surprised. Seasonic power supplies are fantastic. And that does not line up with the gigabyte responses. So there's something non-standard, right? The gigabyte ones are blowing the heck up and the other ones aren't.

Actually, these EVGAs kind of seem to have some um i don't think they're exploding though uh a few of them have apparently popped just like right out of the box that's in that's in like the last 10 reviews there's like three that uh i'm saying they they popped they went they popped off they popped off dude They're popping off. Power supply, man. That's still not anywhere near, not even remotely close to the same percentages as the gigabyte power supplies. Just to be very clear.

Even if we total together, they're done in eggs, on new eggs, on new egg, not stars. So if we total together the one, two, and three stars, so I'm assuming you're not going to give a power supply a four or five star if it explodes on you. If we total all of that together, that equals a percentage of 18.

Yeah. The gigabyte ones are at 54. And I also know that there are some other, like some of these one egg ones are like, oh, it showed up DOA, which is bad, but it's not exploding. These are very different things. Yeah.

These are angry customers this is not a good look but you know the funny thing about it is we preach don't cheap out on your power supply right like don't we preach that yeah you know what i've noticed in the intel extreme tech upgrades is almost i wouldn't say almost, but a disproportionate number of the people who have gotten Intel Extreme Tech upgrades where they're operating within a fixed budget trying to get as much tech as they can for the money have skimped on the power supply.

Chase skimped on the power supply and is now, he actually had just a system power down event because he has a 3080 on like a 750 watt power supply and so he's like yeah i'm gonna have to buy a new power supply james skimped on the power supply uh he tried to get away with i forget exactly what card it was but it was with like a little sfx power supply and those tend to be more sensitive than a full-size power supply um to momentary spikes in uh in power draw and i'm trying to remember who else but oh colton uh colton i think cheaped out on the power supply like almost everyone in spite of the fact that we preach this when push came to shove they chose fps instead of smooth reliable unsexy

power delivery i've got i've got two theories here. Let me pick up one of them really quick. In the meantime, why don't I run through the sponsor spots? Thanks to Setup for sponsoring today's WAN show. Setup curates and brings together over 200 paid apps to your Mac for a fraction of the cost. Each app is carefully handpicked to assist in boosting your productivity. Just navigate to a category and get your hands on the best tools to solve your problems all at once. If you're a Mac user and you're looking for ways to get things done more efficiently,

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did anthony right he used the c sonic uh x connect whatever that that case that has the the breakout like 12 volt only power thing it was pretty sick cool okay okay cool neat and anthony probably got a good one as well i'm assuming trying to remember anthony blew a lot of his budget on like a vr headset and a tv so i'm just i'm trying to remember what his parts list was he must have had a yeah he must have had a computer though i'll check i'll check is it in here oh even i'm processor rmx 650 watt so he went pretty that's a decent power supply but no even anthony even anthony wanted to squeeze as much like he didn't go over 2080 super yeah 2080 super that is that is adequate that was a that was a calculated savings so but it was a savings

a really fantastic solution and a very adequate solution from the little bit more techier people out of the people that you listed so far. I am not surprised. And then what was my other one? Oh, no. Oh, I was going to say the other thing is maybe it was tactical. i was gonna say the other thing is maybe it was tactical because maybe they cranked out the parts that are difficult to get expensive to get etc knowing that potentially the power supply is going to die but that's not really a big deal because you can get power supply yeah they can go buy a solid power supply on their own so maybe it was a tactical decision but the big problem

though the big problem is that your power supply can take out other components and when that happens i mean you will get the run around there i'll say it you are going to get the run around because the power supply manufacturer is not going to want to buy you a new graphics card and the graphics card manufacturer that is not their fault that you bought a crappy power supply. So nobody is going to want to replace that collateral damage. I have heard of power supply manufacturers that have claimed that they will warranty connected components that are killed by the power supply failure. But one of the issues is that it's really hard to prove it. Probably not gigabyte. Well, that's a whole's a whole if they didn't hate me enough already hey all right let's go ahead and move into our next topic

here if you remember the backplate gigabyte i remember the backplate gigabyte anthony says i stand by my choice uh the 2080 super is not a big power sucker and that's fair i did say you did say it was an adequate choice i just said that you clearly didn't you didn't buffer you know you didn't just go go ham on the power supply i said which is which is fine calculated he's on the line like i was saying he's not he's not before the line he had an i5 as well he's highlighted i5 in the doc for me here highlighted i5 thank you anthony all right let's move into our next topic have you been injured by a faulty product amazon says don't call a lawyer amazon has been taking some flack for safety concerns from third-party sellers following last month's consumer Product Safety Commission complaint.

The CPSC wants Amazon to take responsibility for dangerous products offered by third parties under the Fulfilled by Amazon program, since Amazon is the one who is actually shipping out that product. That's what Fulfilled by Amazon means. It's in Amazon's warehouse, comes with an Amazon sticker on it. So from a consumer standpoint they're buying something from amazon yeah dangerous products that have been shipped in this program include 400 000 hair dryers without the required immersion protection devices that could be an enormous electrocution risk 24 000 carbon monoxide detectors that don't work yeah a bit of a fail to alarm bit of an issue

on an alarm numerous children's sleepwear products that are in violation of flammable fabric safety standards equals potentially kids on fire probably not um in case you guys were wondering this is actually why we have never done children's clothes on lTT store because I'm sure there are plenty of you that would have loved to get a kid-sized like WAN hoodie or something. I want one. Not one, I want three. I want them for my kids. And for the upcoming WAN V2 hoodie, I have actually custom ordered. We measured my kids and we are custom ordering one-offs for each of them. But that's the reason that we've never sold them because kids' clothing standards are a whole ball of wax. So the CPSC seeks to force Amazon

as the distributor to stop selling those products, work with the CPSC on recalls, and direct notice for affected customers. Amazon's initial response was to independently do what the CPSC asked them to, but without collaborating with the CPSC. They just wanted to kind of do it quietly. They're now going a step farther though. Any product that is purchased on Amazon is covered by a change to the A to Z guarantee as of September 1st. The changes offer $1,000 in starting compensation for injuries caused by faulty third-party items with a theoretical cap of a million limited to the purchase price of the product plus medical expenses, lost wages, and property damage caused by the defective product.

Wait a second. This isn't good. This is just these payments will come at no cost to sellers and will usually be resolved within 90 days. This sounds closer to hush money so they're trying to just settle with everyone before it totally is yeah they're asking you to not go to a lawyer and they're trying to pay you off that it it is it is hush money yeah yep which like for some people that's maybe what they want to do right and this doesn't make a

difference you can still go to a lawyer it's not like you can't go to a lawyer they're asking you not to but who cares about that that doesn't matter huh okay uh interesting so prior to this amazon was the only party customers could sue with any expectation of success because many of these sellers are from foreign countries, often China, and simply do not respond to lawsuits with no recourse available to the plaintiffs. This is an important detail because the CPSC's case against Amazon uses lawsuits like these as evidence. So if there are fewer lawsuits because Amazon is able to

quiet them down, there will be less evidence and therefore less likelihood that they will be chased in the event of a catastrophic product failure and someone wanting to sue them over it. Yeah, basically Amazon's money is buying them kind of like a liability waiver here fascinating um maybe after a little while it'll be time for us to talk about your your project idea uh maybe once you've made a little bit more progress on it luke it's tough um yeah but yeah yeah all right because it's kind of getting to be time more work has been done but it's it's tough oh speaking of work has been done the ltt store team has been hard at work getting you guys what you demand we now have spout lids for the ltt water bottle

check it out look it's a spout lid it goes on the LTT water bottle also Luke is working his way through this but there is going to be a lower price for the spout lid that should show up if you have previously purchased an LTT store water bottle and if you add the water bottle and and the spout lid to the cart now there is a lower price for it you just have to buy the water bottle at the same time if you have previously purchased a water bottle, like Linus said, should be before the end of tonight, but also three-sevenths of all customers have been registered so far,

but it's going pretty slowly, but customers are being imported and updated that have previously bought the water bottle, and if you're in that lot of people, it will automatically discount the sip lid when you go to do it. Please give us until at least tomorrow so that I can finish this import. Yeah. But if you have previously purchased the bottle. You should get the discount.

Tomorrow or later. Yeah. If you don't get the discount automatically, customer support can help you. Yeah. So it should be five bucks if you don't get the discount automatically, customer support can help you. Yep. So it should be five bucks if you've previously purchased a water bottle. Yay. Go team. Thanks, LTT store team.

All right. What else we got for topics today? There's some pretty good stuff. Oh, man. I don't know. This is more of a quick one. Facebook is shutting down researchers that are looking into political ads running on Facebook and how Facebook is targeting them. So Facebook does have tools where they have approved researchers that are allowed to look into these things in approved ways so they can see what campaign ads are running on the platform.

But what they can't see without looking at it from the viewer's side, The user's side is how they're being served. So this was from, I think it was some researchers at New York University. Yeah, New York University. Basically, they created a browser extension that around 16,000 people voluntarily installed that was looking at how Facebook was serving them these ads. Facebook shut down the extension, shut down their API access, and even terminated their

personal accounts. Because they really do not want third-party independent researchers looking at this stuff, because they might not like what they find. Allegedly, probably. We don't have confirmation of that, because Facebook

doesn't allow third parties to audit how they're serving political ads. So that's pretty cool. Thanks, Facebook. You're awesome. This I mentioned briefly earlier. There's a house bill that takes aim at iOS and Android app store competition the open app markets app basically validates what epic's been saying what i've been saying what apple fanboys uh seem to be pushing back against because they have some kind of weird stockholm syndrome that i really don't understand um the app store is a a monopoly basically um it's it's like a it's not quite a monopoly yes because. It's like a... It's not quite a monopoly, yes, because the Google Play Store also exists,

but thank you, Luke, that's just called a duopoly. And there are certain things that are fair points. Apple and Google, these are their stores and they're allowed to run them the way that they want. The problem is that when they run afoul of antitrust law, that there are consequences for running them the way that they want. And so it looks like those consequences might finally be coming. So what this ultimately ends up looking like for consumers outside of America, probably nothing for the time being, because there's no way Apple and Google are going to voluntarily roll out changes to things like the cut that they take from developers or forcing developers to use

their payment processor, which conveniently includes their 30% cut. There's no way they're going to roll these out in other territories voluntarily. So it'll be America only, at least for the time being, and it'll probably take quite a while. I don't think they're going to expect them to flip a switch automatically. But in time in America, the hope is that this would lead to third-party app stores, which would lead to competition for your app buying and VBUCK buying dollars or whatever it is that you buy, which would in turn lead to Apple and Google slashing their rates and or being more competitive with respect to allowing multiple payment processors and all those kinds of things. Now, if you want to look into why things like

duopolies can be really bad, and if you've only heard of a monopoly and how that can be bad, and you're like, duopoly, well, that's two companies. Of course, there's competition there. There's competition in much more than just two companies as well. Whenever the space gets small enough, and that isn't necessarily one or two, things can get really bad. There's a very, very good video that I've referenced on this show before, but I didn't know the name of it. And I do now. It's called This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things by Veritasium. Louis Rosman is the highest comment under the videos, basically saying, thank you, you planted a seed today about right the videos, basically saying, thank you. You planted a seed today about right to repair all this kind of stuff.

It's a really good video and it talks about why light bulbs suck. It's really interesting. Yeah, it's actually a great video. Basically, planned obsolescence is a thing. And it's something that's taught in schools, which was something that was revealed to me after the last time we talked about this they have planned obsolescence courses in different schools it's interesting it's kind of yeah it's kind of sickening especially when you consider how much waste light bulbs have created over the decades yep oh man in more cool exciting news um the ecc listing of a graphics processors of the asus trademark has an interesting model name the rtx 3070-8g-noctua noctua that's going to be

pretty sweet we don't know what it'll look like. Probably nothing like this. But here's a render of what an Asus X Noctua graphics card might look like. And 10 out of 10. It actually looks pretty cool. I seriously doubt it will look anything like that. 10 out of 10. I suspect it's just going to be usage of fans. I don't think it's going to have a big Noctua badge on it and stuff. Would invite to the backseat of my car after prom.

Yeah. I think it looks great. It's a cool render. Yeah. Looks fantastic looks fantastic made that should be should be proud i just i don't think that's what it's going to look like but i'd be happy to eat my words i expect it to perform awesome i mean noctua is still king when it comes to when it comes to fan performance uh they were recently dethroned by who was it uh dethrone noctua fan oh who is it uh was it um not deep cool be quiet maybe really hopefully it's not as horrible to install as there here it is but oh fan text fan

text here we go oh this fan but but but but but they kind of hacked because it's five millimeters thicker which when you consider how much of a fan is the like structural frame at the back and how much of it is the actual blade being five millimeters thicker on a 25 millimeter fan is actually more than just being 20 percent thicker in terms of the actual spinning part it's like probably closer to like 25 thicker so it does beat um the nf uh the nf a12 x24 but if i'm if i'm noctua i'm probably going to be pretty pissy about this and i'm going to do a 30 millimeter fan of my own and then all of a sudden 25 millimeter fans as the standard are going to be dead and all your cases are going to be obsolete because they won't fit modern fans and the case is going to

get bigger and whatever yeah i mean these things happen these things happen um interesting that they're basically like making a new market segment though you know what i changed my mind i don't feel like talking about samsung unpacked i already said everything I have to say about the Z Fold 3, which is super exciting. Absolutely love it. I just need the YouTube app to work properly, and then I will happily daily drive it. It's amazing.

The Z Flip 3 is still what I think it is. It's a phone that I don't understand why it exists. It's a phone that I don't understand why it exists. It's a novelty item. If you want a screen that shape, then you should just use a candy bar phone. I'm sorry. I don't get it. Maybe I'm wrong. Feel free.

I'm sure Austin Evans is probably online too, trying to argue with me about this. If I recall correctly, he's one of the people who thinks that the Z Flip series is really cool. I don't get it. But it's also water resistant like the Fold is now. That's a big improvement over the last generation. The new Galaxy Watch 4 and Galaxy Watch 4 Classic are here. I'm kind of tempted to give them another try. I mean, I've been wearing this Apple Watch for so long that the meme is kind of dead. It's not connected to anything, guys. It's just a watch. And also, I broke the screen on it with my badminton racket. I followed through on a swing and whacked it, and it cracked all the way across.

So it's seen better days. Maybe it's time to send it into the shop for repairs and then put it in the LMG store, which is not to be confused with the LTT store not LTTstore.com I mean when we have like dead or repaired items or like half working items people at work will often buy them for a steep discount

and there's Galaxy Buds 2 for $149 available August 27th that I wouldn't mind taking a crack at as well these are an upgraded Galaxy Buds Live with better active noise cancellation, apparently. So that's pretty much it for the big topics for the WAN show today.

Was there anything else that you wanted to hit, Luke? No, I think that's pretty much it. Okay. We're good. All right, let's do some super chats then, shall we? I only have the ones after I clicked that tab because YouTube is broken thanks youtube uh geo bear says really enjoying your home automation videos you mentioned that even for

you as a techie person it can be overwhelming will ltd cover communication protocols and recommended devices and why you chose z-wave for your house i chose z-wave um partly because it's got better range without requiring hops. The 900 megahertz does have better punch through ability when you've got lots of walls or lots of floors in your house. And mostly I chose it because the light switch that I like happened to be Z-Wave and everything else I've been looking at

has a good option available that's Z-Wave. And also I don't care about Z-Wave versus Zigbee because I'm using Home Assistant. And with Home Assistant, you can actually have two separate sticks and you can use them both and you can integrate them and have them trigger each other in various ways. So there you go. All right. Cheesy Pie says Z Flip is going to be a godsend for my tiny pockets as a woman. The exterior display was the biggest thing holding me back. I pre-ordered. know what there it is that is me

that is me getting told yeah absolutely absolutely destroyed by words so because it might bulge out a little bit more yep but there is a lot of like women's pockets issues where they're just really really shallow yep and you could you could say okay women just get pants with a bigger pocket but they can't they can't. They can't. I've looked at women's pants. I was like, well, why don't they just have bigger pockets? And they just don't. So, all right.

I have heard that it's because they, I don't know. But I've heard that the manufacturers don't do it because they think they'll sell less because it makes unflattering curves but like given how excited most the ladies that i know get about dresses with pockets or like pants with properly functioning pockets or whatever else i feel like you'd sell more if you just made proper freaking pockets but do you remember what do i know do you remember that horrible trend in like 2001 2002 those awful pants that had no back pockets women's pants they were like the ugliest thing ever they looked so stupid my favorite pants and my favorite shorts have no back pockets but they have many and large pockets elsewhere so it doesn't really matter man how am i gonna man how do i find this okay that's a lot

of pictures of butts on my screen you know what i really i don't need this very much um all right yeah exactly i don't need that either okay what else we got here uh zach says love the water bottle but the gold print on the top so faded after two-ish years about to get another okay it has been a couple of years um and what we have found is that some users have that issue others do not um and it seems like it might have to do with um the ph of your like finger oils so just something to consider uh we don't have the same print fading issues with any of the other ones and the print fading issue is not that widespread just reach out change the ph of your

fingers what no i didn't say that i said i know i'm just memeing i said buy a different color and if you have issues with it you can contact customer support and they'll help you out the customers for ltd store are pretty awesome zovovastria says, can confirm back in November, 2020, I snagged a 3090 bundle with a P850 GM. Luckily I sold the power supply to someone else. Not luckily for them. Yeah.

Nick also says we updated to a new gold ink about 18 months ago. That is less prone to fading. So there you go. Nice. Okay. Dennis says, keep in mind that the power supply fan is often facing down and sparks could literally fly out of the computer onto your carpet if you have your computer down on the floor that is an excellent excellent point uh nardstorm nardstorm says first

time catching the show live just started my career as a network engineer and i'm taking inspiration from you for my personal setup i want to add a nas to my server rack any recommendations for Yeah. Here to outbid GamersNexus with a super chat of $69.69. Have you guys tried Flight Sim on the Series X yet? I have not. As for why, because I have a PC. So there wasn't any reason for me to do it at this time. Apparently GamersNexus lost a GPU in their video.

That is very unfortunate. That's a massive yikes um jason schreiner says attempted is less than the actual crime crime and government the two places that routinely reward failure all right all right that's that's pretty funny uh gamer easy price says just got to even out the good old bank account don't mind me sends 30 and 31 cents for an even hundred dollars of super chats all right thanks gamer easy price very nice josh says i got of course their hx 1000i even though i max at 500 because i don't want to bomb in my expensive system fair Fair enough. Sam Laird says, what is your opinion on Microsoft and Intel

dropping support for S3 sleep? All 11th gen Intel mobile CPUs now only support modern standby. This heavily hurts sleep battery life in Linux and to a lesser degree in Windows. I actually had not looked into this issue at all. Thank you for putting it

on my radar, though. Joshua says, this is stupid, but I have recommended at least a few times to change out the cable to a few power supplies because the cable provided heated up. This should not happen. Yeah, it's an excellent point. That was another really funny thing. Back in the days of when 80 plus was first kind of hitting the market. So 80 plus certified power supplies, there were some assumptions that just because something was 80 plus certified, it meant it was quality. You can build a high efficiency

power supply that is not actually very good quality in other ways. It could have very high ripple. It could have, you know, like we say, it could be lacking or have incorrectly configured over power protection. There's lots of other things that could be wrong with it. And one of the big scams back in the early days of 80 plus was manufacturers certifying their power supplies with cables that were different than what the consumer would actually receive. So like higher gauge cables. So that was a pretty funny one back in the day.

You got to keep an eye on those manufacturers. Hey, Dr. Cutter sent another five pound super chat. Anand took his money and I only got a full-time job after he left. Okay, I was kind of dancing around the situation when Anand sold Anand Tech because I wasn't sure if I was, what if anything I was, what, if anything,

I was supposed to know about it. So there you go. You've got it direct from Ian himself. Anand took the money. I got a job. I'm not cheap. I'm just only on 50,000 subs as a proportion.

My super chats are awesome. Plus, plus. Yeah, you know what, Ian? Thank you very much. Thank you for the super chat. Next time you're live and I catch it, I'm going to be sure to send you super chat back. Also, I miss you. Yeah, I know, right? We got to get together, dude. What am I looking at here? Oh my gosh. Why do we have so many super chats today? It's because we acknowledged them early in the show. Crap. This is too many okay guys i'm only going to do a handful more we don't do super chats on this show uh kinestic says video idea the most dangerous pc in the world a combination of physically dangerous hardware it is thankfully thankfully difficult to find legitimately dangerous

hardware you should do like the the bs machine and just find like build a computer out of like either things that are dangerous or things that had like false claims or misleading claims advertising or yeah just things well we have that stupid uh motherboard recently that um claimed to have usb ports that like pulled faster or something nice toxic bullet xnl says hey linus or luke i was looking at floatplane supporters and what's the difference between ltt supporter or supporter plus if i recall correctly it is 4k resolution okay also there's going to be a change for floatplane supporters we are formally going to be doing away with early access we're going to focus instead on behind the scenes and um yeah mostly on behind the scenes and exclusive content because the reality of it is we haven't been able to keep

up with it for the better part of six months now and we feel like it's hurting our competitiveness to be so far behind certain hot news topics i do think you can expect to see posted posts early on float plane still very often but we're not going to have a commitment to have it be early anymore i also think my understanding here is that you guys are going to be pushing a little bit more in those departments yes so that's going to be a key part of madison's role is making sure that we're keeping up on things like behind the scenes and exclusive content which in my opinion i might be a little biased here genuinely this time but in my opinion that's actually even cooler um because now you're getting like more and and specifically interesting content um that like might not do super well on the main channel so i don't want to release it there

but you can get it on flow plane um and the early access thing is like pretty neat but like whatever you know okay gondomar says finally lol you haven't done early access for years that's actually not true it's been less than a year and we were very consistently early for the entire rest of floatplane yeah gondomar come on i'm pretty sure i know who but it has been very very difficult lately um asasoft says has luke ever talked about the tech stack behind floatplane i would absolutely love to hear about it yes but not for a long time i mean it hasn't really changed um we do a lot of things at floatplane so it's not as simple as like yeah these are the like three or four languages that we use because we use a ton um because we do a lot of things because we don't just like we're not just a payments platform but we do

payments we're not just a video platform but we do video we're not just a streaming platform but we do streaming we do tons and tons of different things uh but it's mostly like javascript and they also do other things like working on ltdstore.com they're working on internal uh like they're working on customizing an open source inventory management tool for us right now so they're they're kind of uh they're this thing but then they're also the only people we know that know how to program anything so we do a lot of stuff we wear a lot of hats it's mostly like mean stack related i I would say. But yeah, there's lots of other things.

We have infrastructure people that barely have anything to do with that kind of stuff. We have, it's, yeah, we do lots of stuff. But it's mostly mean stack related, mostly JavaScript related. J Keyes Design says, I was repairing an HP G7 250 and I was surprised by the repairability of the laptop. There was a video made by HP outlining the process of replacing nearly all the parts, including the screen and battery. I was interested that HP had this much support. That's really cool. Thank you for drawing our attention to that. Here's the specifications thing. I don't actually see any of these resources here, but presumably it's not that difficult to find. So yeah, that's super cool.

presumably it's not that difficult to find. So yeah, that's super cool. What else we got? We got a couple more. Is the beard permanent? It's, yeah, it's here until it's not here, I think, at this point. Thanks, Luca.

Prince Albert asks, why not LTT women's pants with pockets? Okay, we would love to do, at the very least, you least, unisex pants. But pants are really difficult. Because you can kind of get away with not having tall sizes for shirts. Like just wear a size up and it kind of hangs a little bag here. You cannot get away with that for pants. Andrew Wada says, should I get an S21 Ultra or a Z Fold 3?

The master screen on the Fold would be nice with my bad eyes. But the lack of dust resistance worries me. I wouldn't have the lack of dust resistance be what holds me back from a Fold 3. I mean, the price could hold you back, but I wouldn't say dust. I mean, it should be in your pocket most of the time. You shouldn't have a whole lot of dust settle on your

phone. SJ Hockey asks, I noticed your videos mention Unraid and Proxmox a lot. Which do you recommend courses for courses um i run some nas vms on hp dl3 adp server for a small business and was wondering if unread offers anything over proxmox feature set wise for nas well what they offer is unread um so you should do a little bit more digging if you're experienced enough to do what it looks like you're doing um you should do a little bit more digging. If you're experienced enough to do what it looks like you're doing, you should be able to understand it pretty easily.

But what you want to look into is what differentiates Unraid from the normal type of raid that most NASs offer. That's really their special sauce, along with really painless device pass-through for VMs. And just in case you didn't grow up in rural countryside,

Horses for Courses is like right tool for the right job, using the right thing to do the right thing. Use the right race course for the right type of race. Yeah, they're both great is what I'm trying to say. It just depends on the situation. Yeah. All right. I think that pretty much wraps it up for the WAN show.

Nick did message me to say we are apparently working on some women's sweats um so there you go that's that's something that is in the works thank you guys very much for tuning in we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye oh that's a really good idea linus use an iphone 12 pro lidar scanner we need the t-pose says not interested in youtube chat that's a really good idea linus use an iphone 12 pro lidar scanner we need the t-pose says not interested in youtube chat that's a really good idea i should totally send that over i've got one right here send that over to steve can we talk about the cavco stuff i don't have a specific way for them to reach out let's do it next week okay yeah because this is like the very end of the show

let's do it also like other things we need to figure out yeah but yeah yeah at the beginning of the show all right okay bye bye so many comments omg thank you for explaining that saying luke the only reason why i did it was because i thought they might not have properly caught it so they wouldn't be able to google what it was got it all right okay we're done now