The WAN Show - One Of The Shows Of All Time - WAN Show August 25, 2023

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:14 See app for details. What is up, everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show. It is really good to see you. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a while. This is the latest wan show of all
Starting point is 00:00:26 time the streak fortunately is still alive but we are officially 173 hours late is it dan yeah that's about right and for that i am truly sorry we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today disney is not going to be selling DVDs in Australia anymore. Physical media is actually dying, ironically, in one of the places that needs it more than anywhere else with the state of their internet. Also, I freaking called it. For years, too.
Starting point is 00:00:57 For years, I have been saying child influencers are going to sue their parents. It's happening. What else we got today? I don't know. I don't know. GTA 6 leak conducted by a teenager with an Amazon fire stick. That makes no sense to me. That'll be an interesting topic.
Starting point is 00:01:14 What are you even saying? I don't know. MetaBlock's Canadian news? Yeah. And satire. Really? Yeah. Okay, that I didn't know. I heard about this. It's like the Beaverton or something got blocked, I think. And satire. Really? Yeah. Okay, that I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I heard about this. It's like the Beaverton or something got blocked, I think. Bizarre. Yeah. Anyways. oh right there's no logo the show is brought to you today by dbrand sorry about that we'll be talking a little bit more about that later like i thought there was one yep yeah yeah dbrand
Starting point is 00:02:02 sponsored the show today all right all right let's go ahead and jump right into our what is our headline topic disney oh no right the headline topic is one of the shows of all time so um how weird was it not doing wAN show. Very weird. Very weird. Yeah. Like actually threw me off in like a lot of weird ways. Like I woke up on Saturday freaking out thinking that I was like late for work. Literally. Right. Cause my brain was like, I didn't do WAN show last night. Therefore it is not Saturday.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Not over. Yeah. I just wasn't really sure what to do with myself um yeah i mean i'll tell you guys one thing wasn't weird about it and that was that luke and i hung out so we yeah we did private wan show um we didn't talk about tech really much i don't think yeah we had the we had the so's and they don't care they're not gonna be be very interested. Yeah, they're super not interested in that. So I haven't talked tech with you in two weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah. And all the work conversations have been like process and protocol and how are we going to do this other thing and blah, blah, blah. It's funny how a week of introspection has ended up being one of the most intense work weeks in my memory. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How exactly did that happen that we're supposed to slow down and figure it out?
Starting point is 00:03:34 But it turns out figuring things out is a freaking ton of work. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of conversations you've been delaying for a while because they're difficult. But like now's the time. Or they're time consuming. That too. Or there's a lot of people that you need to try and get in the same room and everyone's got a busy schedule. Yep. Yeah, it was, it felt really good.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Missing WAN show, not. That's actually not what I'm talking about anymore. That kind of sucked. But it was the right move. Yeah, it was the right thing to do. I mean, I think that I want to give a shout out to our community manager steven um he he had the sage um idea of asking the floatplane community hey do you guys want to see the exclusive content that realistically we already edited and already
Starting point is 00:04:25 uploaded all we were waiting we're just waiting to hit go uh do you want to see when show do you how do you guys want this to work yeah what do you want to happen here because you know realistically uh i mean i think i already made it pretty clear i was going to hang out with luke on friday night anyway so yeah it really you know doesn't make a difference to me i don't i really don't think it makes a difference to luke if we do one show with a camera pointed at us or if we do it without a camera pointed at us but dan was down yeah so so i you know i want to shout out steven because i think the biggest takeaway from all of this is that at the end of the day the community is the boss and whatever they say goes and he kind of went okay look you guys decide do you want it do you want it do you not
Starting point is 00:05:12 want it and i think the majority actually said go ahead i i i'm not looking at the poll results right now quickly that's true but it wasn't by a huge amount. But about 40%, if I recall correctly, said, hey guys, we actually just want you to put your heads down, figure out what exactly it is that you're going to come back to us with, and let's go from there. I'm glad we did it. I'm really glad we did it. I don't know if you guys have been keeping track,
Starting point is 00:05:46 but it actually ended up being more than a week. We didn't get back to, I can't speak for every team, but on the writing side, we didn't really get back to working on videos until late yesterday, early today. So it was more than a week. And we also just, to make it so that people weren't being interrupted so that their schedules were free to do everything they needed to do yeah we we didn't post even ltt videos
Starting point is 00:06:13 um short circuit videos that have been ready to go um d brand um d brand's response so i already mentioned that they're the sponsor for the wan show today and they're actually going to be the first sponsor that's back on short circuit um i think their take was probably one of the most level-headed and yet completely d brand takes on the whole thing did you see their tweet chain yeah tweet thread yeah. I saw a lot of people speculating that that box of broken glass is some kind of prop. They sent me a box of broken glass. I actually didn't know that. That happened before any of this. I have already filmed that video so they basically either they
Starting point is 00:07:08 are clairvoyant or they just are the luckiest sobs on the face of the earth but they had that one in the chamber ready to go if you want to see line is punished we got you uh it's it's actually it's actually there it's actually there um they're firing back for the secret shopper thing because we we you know told them we had broken glass so you know you should send us a new one and the way we broke the glass was like obviously user error uh but they did send it anyway like massive shout out dbrand they they performed really well in secret shopping our sponsors and uh so they were basically like okay so you like broken glass do you so they sponsored
Starting point is 00:07:56 the short circuit on the galaxy uh z fold 5 there's actually a couple things about that video that have aged since I recorded it. First of all, there's the D brand spot, which has aged like fine wine. And second of all, I say in the video that realistically, my expectation is that my only the only job this phone has is to make me feel like it's worth the effort of switching all of my stuff over from my Fold 3. Well, it doesn't even have that job anymore because my phone is dead. Do you want to know how? Broken glass? No.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It'd be pretty funny if it was. No, it's not, unfortunately. No. My pool has claimed its first victim. Did you drop it or did you drop it? I was running around. I was getting... Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I was running around. Okay. And it's going to be even dumber than you think. It's way worse than you think, I promise you. I was running around getting ready for a pool party. And so I'm, you know, like grabbing hoses and vacuuming the bottom just skimming and like doing all that stupid stuff as I'm like walking My arm moves and knocks my air pods out of that little pocket the little one right here
Starting point is 00:09:20 yeah, like it was not in all the way and I kind of went but and it just fell down. And one of my, one of my earphones went into the water and I went, oh crap. Um, it was in the shallow end. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:34 okay, I can, I can probably just, I probably don't have to get all the way in. I can, I can get this and I'll just, uh, I'll just take my shirt off after.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So I, so I put, I, so I laid down on the, on the pool deck and I like, like blew hard out of my nose so that water wouldn't go up my nose. And I just like laid on the side and tried, tried to reach it.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Well, I didn't get it. It moved obviously because you like fishing around in the water. So I'm like, okay, screw it. And I just go in, I grab it.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I jump out. Obviously it doesn't work. So I, you know, put it out in the sun and like leave it there for now. And that's it. That's the end of the story. I never took my phone out of my pocket in my soggy pants that I didn't change
Starting point is 00:10:15 because I was running around getting ready for the party. So I didn't realize that it had been sitting there in a soggy pocket on a hot day for probably a couple of hours. And I now speak from personal experience. If there's anything that would be worse than having your phone submerged in water, it would be having your phone in a super high humidity environment right after it got submerged in water. When I took it out of my pocket, the camera lens was fogged. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Which is never a good sign. Yeah, that's not good. So I'm kind of feeling like maybe it's a video. Just like, can I, the good news is I backed up. Can I save this phone? Yeah, I backed up everything like three weeks before it happened. Nice. So I lost like a couple pictures.
Starting point is 00:11:02 It's, there were no significant family moments or anything like that. Someone said chlorine water is probably the killer. So is your salt and chlorine? Well, it's salt chlorination. So it's like they put salt in and then there's some... This is one of those things where enough people have asked me about it that I really need to just spend 45 minutes, read the Wikipedia on salt
Starting point is 00:11:25 chlorination and be like, yeah, yeah, there's, there's a, uh, a chlorination cell and it's something, something electricity, something, but basically it converts some kind of salt that you dump into it, into chlorine. And it's supposed to be a little bit less, uh, like chlorine smelly and chlorine feely. Um, but yeah yeah that's the kind um so yeah it's it's still chlorine it's still producing chlorine but it's doing it constantly instead of you just like dumping chlorine into no pucks no pucks yeah um yeah the chlorine probably didn't help now it does turn on i can see a samsung logo but what I suspect is that the battery is dead because it was powered on the whole time that it was sitting there soggy. So it's probably a power connection that's corroded.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Fortunately, Dan. Thank you, Dan. Very helpful. Fortunately, Dan is pretty good with that kind of stuff. And Luke has already given me the go ahead to have dan help me with that project so if we just get like a replacement screen replacement battery i don't know maybe i fix it has like a i legitimately don't know they might have like a fold three refurbished kit or like screen replacement kit or something like that
Starting point is 00:12:40 and we can open it up have a look at it put it back together and see if i can see if i can get a few things off of it It's the kind of thing that I'm not going to that I'm not gonna bother to you know send to a drive data recovery Company or anything like that. It's not no it's not worth it That's like they want like two grand three grand five grand depending on the complexity of the issue. We recover this at home is fun Yeah, why not yeah, yeah, it's good. It's content. It's kind of it's yeah, it's content. Yes I'll have some remember baking your xboxes Yeah, that works. I mean you can do some stuff
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah, well, I mean it's a very temporary fixer Hey, maybe someone just needs to back it up You know can I turn it on for a while? You know what this is a really good point Androids only have this problem. iPhone backs up instantly. It's not quite that simple. But something that did happen is I hadn't opened the Google Photos app since the last time I booted the phone. And so, yeah, even though I have cloud backup configured, it didn't back up those few weeks. So I don't even have the lower quality version.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It doesn't back up a camera roll? So I don't have a pixel oh i'm on samsung so i typically just use samsung's gallery app because i don't know i don't care um well it turns out i should know and care now you do care yeah exactly maybe i'll just use uh use photos from now on especially because i use my work account as my primary account because i own the domain so i don't have any concerns about my work account going away anytime soon. So I have, because of all of our Google Workspaces accounts
Starting point is 00:14:12 and how all the storage is pooled, I have like 600 terabytes or 650 terabytes of total storage available. So I could never take enough pictures from now until the end of my life to to fill up all of it that's pretty funny am i supposed to use that for that probably not right no yeah probably not okay who cares well that never happened maybe maybe it does i bet you you've used one of those photos for work at some point oh no that that's definitely a thing then it's fine that's 100 of the thing. Then it's fine. That's 100% a thing. I think it's fine. I take lots of pictures
Starting point is 00:14:45 for work. Yeah. Man, we finally have the AMD Challenge Part 2 coming. Labs Jake Daines, I guess I could say, is saying that he can help. Oh. Oh. Which he probably can. Makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. Speaking
Starting point is 00:15:02 of taking photos for work, AMD Radeon Challenge part two is coming you have some more stuff that you're planning to look at this weekend when are you even gonna have time this weekend i know i'm seeing you this weekend no okay what you're gonna be gaming also busy on saturday because you're not gaming tonight nope clearly um uh cool well i'll figure it out luke will be like gaming during family dinner Just like okay everyone Everyone just like bring the table into Luke's gaming space
Starting point is 00:15:30 And we'll just all sit around there And Luke will just He'll be facing the other way He'll just turn around and take bites While he evaluates the Radeon experience I'll figure something out To be clear a lot of Luke has spent a ton of time with the card
Starting point is 00:15:42 But I did it like six months ago It was not six months ago it was not six months ago i think it was five months ago okay also by the time we actually released the video it might be six months because it was supposed to come out you know recently and it hasn't yet so yeah yeah but yeah so i have all my notes from testing it back then but if we're releasing the video now it doesn't seem very fair so i'm still going to keep my notes from testing it back then, but if we're releasing the video now, it doesn't seem very fair. So I'm still going to keep some of the comments from back then, but frame it properly as this is how it was like back then, and then test it now with new drivers and all that kind of stuff and see if it's better.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah. Floatplane wants the bread cam back for us, so I guess they can have it for a little bit. Why don't we talk about Disney mixing DVDs inds in australia what is going on yeah this sucks disney will no longer release physical media in australia and new zealand disney movies and television shows will only be available via streaming following the physical release of guardians of the galaxy volume 3 australia and new zealand are actually the third meet uh third media market where disney has cut physical media releases. Disney discontinued DVDs and Blu-rays in Latin America and most of Asia in 2020,
Starting point is 00:16:52 a year after the launch of Disney+, citing low physical media sales. In May of this year, Disney removed over 50 titles from its streaming service as part of a $1. billion dollar content write-off this included crater a disney plus exclusive which was released on may 12th 2023 and removed seven weeks later on june 30th the film is now unavailable anywhere on the internet uh i beg to differ, but okay. Except for some places on the internet. Disney has also censored content such as 1992's The Muppets Christmas Carol, where they digitally removed a cigarette from a puppet's mouth. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:40 So far, only WandaVision, Loki, and The Mandalorian. Those are the only Disney Plus shows that have officially announced physical releases anywhere in the world. Okay, so we need to talk about content. I know that it's not quite exactly what's going on here, but it is very clear to me that the TV and movie business, as we've known it for our entire lives is fundamentally broken. Oh yeah. How many days is the writer's strike going on now? Like 110 or something like that? It's a long time. I was talking about this with,
Starting point is 00:18:20 uh, with Ed earlier today before the show. And, uh, he's got, he seems to feel like the situation is pretty cut and dried. He's basically going like,
Starting point is 00:18:30 yeah, I mean, eventually the studios will have to concede something, and the writers and actors will go back to work, but what he thinks is going to happen is we're just going to see, they'll get paid more, they'll get more residuals, whatever it is that that compromise ends up looking like, but we're going to, you know, they'll get paid more. They'll get the more residuals, like what, you know, whatever it is that that compromise ends up looking like.
Starting point is 00:18:47 But we are going to get a lot less shows and probably a lot less chances. Like, like, you know what I mean by that? They're going to risk less boring things. I mean, that's but that's already the direction it's been going. Yeah, I know. I know. But I feel like it'll get worse. I'm I'm I'm honestly, I'm not sure. Even as someone who doesn't really rely that much on TV and movies for my entertainment,
Starting point is 00:19:09 like if I have absolutely nothing to do and you put a gun to my head and you say, okay, do something to entertain yourself, I'm going to go to a video game. I'm not typically going to go to a TV show or to a movie. So this is kind of random stuff. It's from The Vice. They said the previous writer's strike in kind of 2007 to 2008 lasted for 100 days. The longest strike on record in 1988 lasted for 153 days. Okay, so we're not even record-breaking yet, but still, this is brutal.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Okay, so we're not even record-breaking yet, but still, this is brutal. So far, I think this was as of the 23rd, so that's two days. So it's been 115 days, I think. But something you've got to consider, too, is looking at all the interviews and the articles that are coming out from the writers. They are going into—they're over three months. WhiskeyNerd88 in floatplane chat said, a US judge just ruled today, AI content cannot be copyrighted, which includes TV and movies.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Okay, we're going to be talking about that a little bit later in the show, I think. Or are we? Is that not in here anymore? Oh, okay. Apparently that's not in here anymore. Okay, well, it was planned to be in the doc at some point, I think. Okay, what was I saying?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Something. Right, yeah. So they're over three months now. But from everything that I'm reading, a lot of these people not only are over three months without work now, but they were not being well compensated before that. They don't have cash reserves. And you'll have to forgive me, I have not looked into the previous strikes in the 2000s and in the 80s. But what I would
Starting point is 00:20:52 not be surprised to hear is that at that time, they may have been in a more comfortable position in their lives overall compared to right now. And I am, I'm really worried that the studios are just not going to budge on this and the number that really stands out to me here is just like the personal life impact of going into debt because of trying to fight for this is brutal the 1.5 billion dollar content write-off that number stands out to me and the reason for it is that that's how worthless this content has become to their business. That they would literally rather delete it from the internet, not provide it to anyone, and just use it as a loss, as a tax write-off, compared to keeping it up. So if that's the state of things, what are the odds that they're going to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:52 champing at the bit to make more content? Even before all this went down, I'm not sure if we talked about this on the show before, but the CW, I don't know if you guys know CW Network, but they've done a lot of shows over the years. One of the ones that I liked back in the day was Smallville. I don't know if anyone cares about Smallville anymore. Probably not. I don't watch a lot of TV anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Is that a Canadian thing? CW? Because Smallville was filmed here. It was filmed like... No, it's not Canadian. CW just shoots, did, used to shoot a lot in Canada. But before the strike even started, they basically just
Starting point is 00:22:25 packed up and moved out um yeah because like i've mentioned smallville to a few people and all the americans don't seem to know what it is so i thought it was maybe just like a canadian thing but yeah there's a bunch of people in chat saying it's it's in america so maybe i just happened to my you know my sample size was small. Another big number. So in the UK, you can't abstract how much each of your productions cost. You can't just bundle them all together and say, okay, well, here's a bunch of productions we did,
Starting point is 00:22:53 and this is how much they cost. They require you to report exactly how much you spent on each production. Do you know how much they spent on the Willow reboot? Oh. No idea. $100 million. Yeah. $100 million. they spent on the willow reboot no idea 100 million dollars yeah a hundred million dollars that was up for I think six months before they pulled it down and so the negotiating position for the writers in particular is like these guys already didn't want to make content. They were already just going, okay, forget it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 This is like actually not even worth it. We'll just pull it down. What are we going to, like, what TV shows are we going to watch? How are they going to move forward? Oh, man, I read this really sad article about a dry um, um, uh, a dry cleaner, Hollywood dry cleaner, like the kind of collateral damage that wouldn't even occur to me because your family member worked in the production industry for some time.
Starting point is 00:23:57 What, how, how, what would you say? Well, yeah. Okay. I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:02 on set. Okay. Yeah. Well, okay. That's fair. I know what you mean. The thing I'm about to say, they. Okay. I mean, on set. Okay. Yeah. Well. Okay. That's fair. I know what you mean. The thing I'm about to say.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They work directly. They would have direct experience with this. Okay. Help me out here. Okay. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Okay. So that particular family member, you know which one I'm talking about. Please don't make this difficult. How often, with the way that talent treats their clothes, how often would you say that those clothes probably need to be cleaned? Yeah. I'm assuming I haven't actually specifically talked to her about this, but I'm assuming a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:36 All of a sudden Hollywood dry cleaner. Yeah. Gone. See you later business. Yeah. No. And it, and it's everything,
Starting point is 00:24:44 right? It's not just the productions it's the it's the promotions for the production you just you just fought through the like covid era which even though a lot of things kept filming i'm sure the rest of your traffic was majorly reduced yeah so well yeah they've already like they've been hit hard by work from home because people don't need their professional clothes that too yeah yikes so it's it's not just like woe is me what tv will i watch it's what is actually going to happen to not just this industry it's also like food food services companies are struggling right now what is going to happen to
Starting point is 00:25:17 all the like feeder industries that rely on this money that's coming in from people going to the theater, from people, well, I mean, cable cutting, right? Like there's no money going in for that. Campbell in Floatplane Chat said there's a studio near Berlin, Germany, which is struggling right now because of the strike. It might even have to close. A studio near what, sorry? Berlin, Germany, because I guess whatever they film is written, I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Right, okay. In the U. written, I'm assuming. Right. Okay. In the US. I'm assuming. I don't know. Brutal. But that would make sense. I have a controversial take.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I think that this is a huge opportunity for like the South Korean film industry. Oh yeah. Because they're big. Yeah. And they're doing really cool really innovative stuff dramas right korean dramas though well not just that i mean they they've had theatrical breakouts okay as well um and i think that in the absence of new western produced content i think there's going to be a lot more appetite. People are going to watch something. They'll watch something. People want to be entertained.
Starting point is 00:26:26 What about anime? Does anime jump more mainstream? I don't know that people are going to just cross into different genres. I think you're going to see some of that. Okay, so people like their shows. If you want your dramas, you get your dramas. That type of stuff? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:42 If people like comedy, I suspect they're probably going to watch, they're going to want to watch comedy. Right. Um, but I do think, yeah, you'll, you'll probably see some of that. I think that, uh, the, the, the, the back catalog owners are probably going to benefit from this because they don't have to spend any money producing anything, but they can license out their back catalogs because people are going to want to watch something. I mean, it's not the way that I consume content but the way that yeah don't forget
Starting point is 00:27:08 bollywood yeah 100 thank you chat some bollywood stuff is amazing yeah like actually very entertaining like the real risk to the industry right now is that it used to be that hollywood was the only show in town diversification of global interest type of situation. Yeah. They are totally not. There's some really good quality stuff being done in China now, too. Like China's film industry in like, what, the 90s is basically irrelevant, right? Yeah, not anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:40 But they're pumping now. They're going hard. Yeah, not anymore. But they're pumping now. They're going hard. Whew! Okay, so right. So back to Disney nixing DVDs and Blu-rays in Australia.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So a couple things here. One, we're just seeing this general withdraw from even bothering anymore. Should we drop the bread cam? How long have we had the bread cam up? I don't know. Let me say that. Dan, what the heck the bread is precious um so many people aren't even gonna get it that's why i was a lot of people aren't gonna
Starting point is 00:28:15 get it okay yeah anyway uh what sorry what am i what was i talking about uh content disappearing off the internet. Off the everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Disney's withdrawing basically on every front. Basically going, how much does it cost to print and ship a plastic Blu-ray disc? Oh, yeah. Like, functionally nothing. And if they're basically saying, yeah, this isn't even worth it.
Starting point is 00:28:45 nothing and if they're basically saying yeah this like isn't even worth it for the we know whatever localization that we're gonna have to do um you know and i mean it's australia and new zealand like what what localization are they even are they even doing do all that do you do you guys have dubbing down there and all the characters just like speak in australian accents is that a is that a i'm kidding i'm kidding i obviously know that didn't, doesn't happen. Um, so, so yeah, it's, it's not even worth the minimal localization effort that it would take to distribute content. Um, that, so that's problem number one is like, do they just become a theme park company? Uh, problem number two is that not only does this mean that people who don't have great internet connections are not going to have as easy access to content, but it also means that the highest quality version of this content is simply not going to be available anymore. And that really sucks.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of brutal i i'm happy that like archiving of this type of media has become more of a collective work fairly recently it feels for a long time there it was just like oh you are people pirating for their own personal gain and it's been kind of shifting to groups of people trying to archive things because they're just being i mean 1.5 billion dollars worth of content was just ripped off of this platform is no longer available at all um so i i mean i'm happy people are archiving so tell me this i know from talking to you both on the show and personally yeah that steam was a turning point for you for game piracy yeah i know that spotify or similar was the turning point for you for music
Starting point is 00:30:34 piracy yeah i'm about to ask a spicy question are you going to go back to movie and tv show piracy if there's not a reasonable means to get a quality version of the content? I will do what I can to legally acquire the content. Do you plan a future career in politics? I'm just wondering. Seriously, it's an honest question because you're on this show, same as me. question because you're on this show same as me and yet somehow you managed to come out of pretty much every controversy completely unscathed while i dig myself deeper and deeper into various holes i i've had some i've had some clearly you need to coach me i've had some hits recently
Starting point is 00:31:15 yeah that's fair enough um yeah i uh I mean, I've been totally blunt. I, you know, physical backing of, I have no problem downloading something that I have a physical paid backup for. I don't, like, legally, it's still piracy. Like, I don't care. That doesn't matter to me. If they've gotten their money,
Starting point is 00:31:43 I just don't really see what the issue is. So, yeah, I'm lazy and I just download things if I want to watch them. And then it's just, you know, it's a quick couple of clicks to put something in the pile to make sure that I cannot feel bad about it. But I think that more broadly. Putting people back in the piracy pipeline. putting people back in the piracy pipeline, like making people go to the effort to find a good private tracker or whatever else, once they've got it set up,
Starting point is 00:32:12 are they going to come back to the streaming services, especially if they're not getting fresh new content all the time? Like, is this whole business just dead? Kind of shattering itself? Yeah. I do know a very significant amount of people have been I won't say forced or made to go back to but Heavily nudged back in the direction of privacy and her piracy. I should say sorry
Starting point is 00:32:39 And they've been embracing it the amount of the amount of memes that I've seen where it's like, you know, the the the old meme back in the amount of the amount of memes that i've seen where it's like you know the the the old meme back in the day of like goodbye old friend and he puts the old ratty pirate hat in the box yeah and there's like netflix or whatever there the amount of memes that i've seen where they take it back out of the box because there's like netflix and all these other ones there and now the problem isn't even. It isn't that there's too many platforms and it costs a ton to be able to access everything. It's that you can't. So, yeah, we're going back to old methods.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Oh, crap. We need to do something really quick here. Guys, we don't do super chats here. We do merch messages. And the reason is one that I am about to show you. Hold on. I just need to screen share really. Where's my screen share?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Did you take away my screen share, Dan? I might have done that. Okay. I do need my screen share though. Okay. Can I have it back, please? Are you ready? Yes, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Okay. So this is why. We've talked about this before before I can't emphasize this enough We do not do super chats because look at this. Here's the viewer activity feed Okay, people are sending super chats anyway This super chat for $200 is not in the viewer activity feed. It is broken.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So we almost missed this. Um, you need a solution to super chats. I hadn't read this yet. There isn't a solution to super chats. They're broken. We've told them for a long time about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 YouTube knows we've called this. We've been talking to them about this for over a year this is literally why the team developed merch messages because we could easily miss a 200 super chat because youtube doesn't see fit dan can you can you move us out of the corner so they can see i'm not just like faking this or something i've had so many people accuse me of you know oh it's just an excuse for them to promote merch messages. No, super chats are broken. Merch messages are also pretty cool. They're also, like, way better because then you can just get your order in the mail instead of just giving half of the money to Google, who definitely needs more money.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah, that's it. That's everything that's there. This did not show up. Is that wild or what? I mean, at least your other one did, I guess. So, hey, thanks, Paul. But please, use merch messages. I guess now's as good a time as any to explain what merch messages are.
Starting point is 00:35:18 If you go on lttstore.com and you go to the cart, anytime we're live, you're going to see a little box for a merch message that will go into a dashboard Where our producer Dan? Where our producer Dan will curate them for me and Luke to discuss or pop them up in the bottom Or what is one of the other oh? Yeah, and sometimes Dan will just reply to you so you can go ahead place an order whether it's you know a screwdriver or a Hoodie or whatever the case may be the great thing about merch messages is that, hey, we try our best, but if we don't get to your merch message, at least you get your order in the mail and you're
Starting point is 00:35:51 not just throwing money at the screen for no reason. Dan, do you have a couple of merch messages for us? I do actually. Yeah, I got a couple here. Fantastic. Welcome back, LLD. Glad to see you and the whole team are back on the upswing. if you decide to encase the bread in resin Can you please make it a floatplane exclusive? I didn't want to read that one now, but I did anyway. I'm sorry Do we need to provide people context for this stupid piece of bread Luke can can you explain this to the people? Well, okay, stop as far as my understanding goes, because I was not there when the, how does it go? I was there when the words were written or whatever. Oh, do not cite the deep magic to me, which I was there when they were written or something like that.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, I was not there when it was written. But as far as my understanding goes, the Discord was like, okay, it's actually going to be nuts to just talk about this for however long. So we are now a bread discord. I see. Which I thought was hilarious and people liked it. And now we have this. There was also, I think this was come to after the idea of it becoming a bread discord. But I saw a few people talking about how they liked
Starting point is 00:37:05 the bread theme because uh to find peace you bake bread break it bread and i liked that jackson asks about wireless gpus want to get in on the best savings hack ever only kudos saves you up to 40 on a sweet phone plan reliable home internet and all the streaming you could ever need with Netflix, Disney+, and Amazon Prime. That's right. When you bundle with the Happy Stack, you can spend up to 40% less a month, every month, all year long, as long as you're with Kudo. Dare I say saving this much money has never been this easy? Stack more, spend less.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Like, way less. The Happy Stack. Only at Kudo. The Happy Stack. Only at KUDO! Now with internet. Okay. Oh! We did a video about one recently. It just had, like, wide-eye, like, wireless display output.
Starting point is 00:37:56 No. I don't expect that to take off. It's so niche that, basically, the people who want it are going to be willing to pay extra for an external adapter that just takes a standard video output off your GPU, converts it to wireless, and then beams it to wherever the heck it needs to go. I think the market for a GPU that's built from the ground up to transmit a display signal wirelessly is going to be extraordinarily small compared to the folks that would just have wireless you know sitting in a slot next to it or like bolted to the side of the chassis or whatever else as part of as part of a less integrated but probably overall
Starting point is 00:38:36 more cost-effective solution I mean that was the big problem was the one wireless GPU that ever did exist cost basically the same as just buying a GPU and a wireless HDMI transmitter. So it's like, okay, I'm sure glad we, I'm sure glad we integrated these two products. It's like your, your fork spoon. It costs exactly as much as buying a fork and a spoon, but now they're attached to each other. Oh good. So when I don't need the spoon anymore, I can no longer use this fork. Or like if the spoon is no longer useful, if you guys kind of get what I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:06 because when this GPU becomes obsolete, all you've done is attach a wireless HDMI transmitter to it that now you can't use anymore. Perfection. All right, Dan, do you have one more for us? Yeah, I've got a couple of real ones if you want. Yes, please. Hi there, DLL.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Remember hearing about a progress on a car-focused channel. What's the progress on this channel, and what would the style of video be like? For example, Marquez or Doug DeMuro? Style on the channel, I mean, is going to be... Why would we style it after what someone else is already doing? The style of the channel is going to be Alex Clark, in all likelihood. I know he's really, really passionate about the channel. There's a number of other people internally who I know want to contribute to it. With that said, I think that
Starting point is 00:39:49 the community sentiment, rightly, towards us launching another channel right now would probably be pretty low. And so right now, any new channel projects are on hold until such time as we have really nailed down our processes for the existing channels. Car channel is realistically a matter of time. I think that Alex's energy shines through so much. Like his car videos are just my favorite to watch. I don't even care about cars, but I watched this one on the Polestar 2 and I was just, I don I watched, I don't even care about cars, but I watched this one on the pull star too. And I was just,
Starting point is 00:40:28 I don't know. I just wanted a bag of popcorn, right? Like he's just, he's so excited and it's so infectious. Um, I'm excited for it, but it's not the kind of thing that we're going to rush into right now.
Starting point is 00:40:39 If that makes sense. Yeah, I think so. That probably makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of things that make sense. Yeah. Next topic. Yeah, sure. Why not That probably makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of things that make sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Next topic. Yeah, sure. Why not? Why not? It's a free country. You want to run this one? Child influencers can now sue their parents for wage theft. I think there's some.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I think I'm just going to sit here and look smug while you read it. Illinois has passed a law ensuring compensation for underage social media entertainers taking effect july next year if a child under 16 is featured in at least 30 percent of monetized content i'm excited for 29 attendance in upcoming videos but if they're featured in at least 30 percent of monetized content in a 12 month period a percentage of earnings must be placed in a trust account for the child the percentage is based on the amount of time that that child is featured if they're in say 50 of a video they would be entitled to 25 of that video's earnings how does that math work that seems like an arbitrary video half if're in 50% of a video, they get a quarter of the earnings.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I think it's half of the amount of the video that you're in. Okay. I wonder how they came to that number. I'm not saying that's a wrong number. I have no idea. I just am curious. Yeah, not a clue. While some other states require parents to set aside earnings for child entertainers in movies and television,
Starting point is 00:42:07 Illinois is the first state to target child labor in social media. The idea for the law was reportedly suggested by then 15-year-old Shreya Nalamathu, who felt that parents were putting incredibly intimate and private moments of their children's lives online and that those children were often too young to fully understand the implications which is 100 true very fair and true like absolutely a thing yeah i um i was shocked you know you know sorry you know you know how there's that like shocking horrifying moment uh that's been in tv a bunch of times and stuff where like uh your your new partner comes over to your parents house for the first time your mom busts out the like little kids album to embarrass
Starting point is 00:42:57 you now it's on the internet for every next level hey yeah i was shocked to see some of the bad takes in the community when we've talked about this in the past like they're my kids what's the difference between this and you know washing dishes doing chores or like you know it's no one's business for the state to come in and tell me what how i can raise my kids and it's like this is not about how you raise your kids. This is about child labor. When someone is in a YouTube video, even if it's a YouTube video where they are playing with something, they are working if it is monetized. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It's monetized. They're working. I do think that something they've done well here is that they've made the trust allocation based on the actual money that it makes. There's arguments to be made either way. I think that from a privacy standpoint, from a, hey, now that I'm an adult, I, I didn't consent to that. Um, you shouldn't have done that. I think from that standpoint, we're going to see different litigation. Um, if the content didn't make any money, but at least if the content does make money, they are getting a piece of it. Um, but I, but I, but I like that they're not just entitled to like an hourly wage i think that if they are a star and if they are you know featured in a significant portion of the video
Starting point is 00:44:31 you could over what is it over 30 of the monetized content yeah if they are a star in the content 30 of the monetized content in a calendar year or 12 month sorry nomonth period. That's different. And then also, so that enables you to receive some of the cut. And then it is 50% of the percentage of the video that you're in. That's how the monetization works. Got it. Yeah, I... Oh, man, now I'm torn, though. Because on the ones where they don't make any money,
Starting point is 00:45:05 well, no, they should still be entitled to minimum wage that's what minimum wage is and the other thing too is that it's like oh no it's just social media or whatever but like there's really strict laws governing how many hours a child can work whether it can interfere with their education um how many days they can work over a given period. And none of that is being adhered to. And no, they're not just your kids. They're not your property to just do whatever you want with.
Starting point is 00:45:33 You're not allowed to be exploitative. This is not parenting. This is work, right? And even with this cut, this doesn't address any of those issues. Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to say is. It's beginning. I'm calling it.
Starting point is 00:45:53 But not enough. There's a lot more coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot more coming. And you know what's really interesting about these numbers is there's a lot of like family vlogging channels that have more than four kids how does that work i could actually see the spinning beach ball on his brain give me the math luke what happens now yeah
Starting point is 00:46:21 yeah people are starting to list uh they're starting to list channels that have a whole whack whack load of kids yeah well how do i do the parents take anything because i i i think they should probably make something for turning their family into production i think you know chris jenner probably did okay with all of that and that's probably you know yeah mostly to the benefit of i don't know jayden raises an interesting point sure but i want your take on is uh he says on top of influencers the laws for types of content of kids being posted by their parents even just to facebook for friends and family needs to be tightened up a lot i know know of people that have made Facebook pages in the name of their child who is like zero and then posted things all the way up.
Starting point is 00:47:17 There's so many ways for that to go. It's very interesting. On the one hand, they might look at it and go and go wow it's so cool to have this like catalog of you know everything that i've ever done in my life i'm sure some people would say that but then there's going to be people that are like wow this is a huge invasion of my privacy how could you have possibly thought that this was okay yeah a little rough i like the email idea i've always liked the email idea here's the thing though like you've got what's okay tell me this what is the difference between signing away your kids rights
Starting point is 00:47:52 on facebook and signing away your kids rights on a traditional media or television production it's monetized versus not well the media i mean either of them could be or couldn't be i guess fair enough so what's what's the difference? If people just have power of attorney for their children, I'm not saying it's right for people to just post everything about their child on Facebook. I'm just asking, is it any different? Someone asked, what's the email idea? I don't know if this was an original idea of yours.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Oh, it's not an original idea. So the idea is that you set up an email and then you email that email like journal thoughts about the kid. Little fun stories and stuff like that. I haven't stayed as on top of it as I would have liked to. I mean, there's still time. It's just one of those things that stuff happens and life gets busy and you don't think to like write a bunch of emails but um there's definitely going to be some stuff there it could be cool to kind of pick it back up and keep going and then like give it to them when they move out or
Starting point is 00:48:54 something yeah it could be kind of neat could be cool moving on it still says two more topics yeah heck yeah all right do you want to talk about the gta6 leak yeah i have no idea what this is about the cold hard honest truth is that i have spent the vast majority of the week in meetings deliberating on oh me too and i didn't see this coming until now but i've read the first line and i love it so i'm ready to go uh gta6 leak conducted by teenager with an amazon fire stick oh man that sounds fire a british 18 year old out on bail for blackmail fraud and hacking two u.s telecom companies and nvidia as part of a teenage cyber gang has been revealed as the likely culprit of last year's hack of Rockstar and leak of GTA 6 footage. Shortly before his second arrest, the teen was doxxed by rival hackers.
Starting point is 00:49:51 When he was again released from jail, he was moved to a travel lodge hotel under strict bail conditions for his own safety. There, he apparently hacked and leaked unfinished grand theft auto 6 gameplay using an amazon fire stick he found in his hotel tv which allowed him to infiltrate cloud computing services with a newly purchased smartphone man he also purchased on the internal rockstar slack channel i am uh posted yes sorry what did i say Yep. Oh boy. He also posted on the internal Rockstar Slack channel, I am not a Rockstar employee, I am an attacker. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:32 He likewise allegedly hacked Uber and Neobank Revolu, hopefully. He then reportedly was caught when London police searched his hotel room. Is it wrong to be like, you know, hey, do you like want to work here? I know that happens a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:57 It does. Like it's kind of part of the point, I think, of these kinds of escapades. Some of them. This does just seem to be kind of chaotic. Yeah, I feel like they just want to hit everything they possibly can. Like just do stuff? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 That is actively a way that people get jobs. Okay, can we talk about the fire stick? Absolutely. What does the fire stick have to do with anything? I think it's just like they didn't have a computer. they have a phone which is a computer why do they need the fire stick i'm not entirely sure it doesn't really seem like it goes allow them to infiltrate cloud computing services what does that even mean how do you with a phone and
Starting point is 00:51:38 a fire stick how do you end up on rockstar slack i mean it are is this just social engineering and we're and we're just kind of sitting here in awe of the hacking greatness or is this missing a lot of details surely yes but it's pretty epic regardless yeah i uh didn't he buy the phone with the hacked fire stick maybe it's it's not in our notes yeah um but it sounds pretty epic this is oh that would make sense if if he used the fire stick to get the phone and then use the phone to actually uh to actually infiltrate them um captain jinyu over on floatplane chat says hi i'm a cyber security sme for a living this article sounds like nonsense uh yeah i think because our notes just have no information in them.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah, the original source is from the BBC, so I don't think this is actually nonsense. And here he is holding a shark. Wait, I still don't have a way to switch to my screen. Dang it, Luke. I'll show it. Are you ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Are you sure? Yeah. Because why not? Yeah, sweet. Why not just be holding a shark i guess yeah all right anywho he's been on three hacking sprees now epic i spilled acid in my car yeah okay what is this what you talked about before where it got under the floor mat yeah okay so how bad is it when you have a pool um occasionally you need to adjust the ph so there's chemicals that you'll put in the pool to either increase the ph or decrease the pH. And I, um, uh, one of those chemicals is, can be muriatic acid.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And so we happened to have some muriatic acid kicking around here at the office. And the reason that we had a jug of it was, uh, do you remember that weird, like shmoo that was all over the floor in some parts of the lab warehouse? Dan, did you see the shmoo? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Did you guys ever figure out what we thought that was from? Like it was like, like it was thrown off of some kind of machine or something like that. Do you remember? Not exactly. I do remember that there was a floor polishing step and some shmoo removal step and a whole bunch of ceiling steps and stuff like that. Yeah. I think Jamie had a theory. He thought it was something to do with some kind of machine that was in that space and just flung out glue or some kind of...
Starting point is 00:54:13 Oh, like pre-existing. Yeah, it was from the previous... Not even the previous tenants, but the ones before that was our theory about it. Anyway, they had the idea that maybe they could try putting acid on it to try to make it a little bit easier to get up. It did absolutely nothing. So they just had this jug of acid and I was like, Oh, I need acid. Hmm. Should I really be transporting acid in my car? That just seems like it's, it's got over 10,000 kilometers
Starting point is 00:54:41 on it, but it still didn't have a single scratch. Yeah. Absolutely nothing like pristine. And I was like, do I really want? No, you know what? No, I'm not going to live my life like that. I'm not going to be like, oh, you know, you know, my car is too nice to like carry a bottle of acid or whatever. Okay. okay so the bottle of acid is in a bag just to make sure that just in case it you know spills or whatever it spills into the bag instead of you know spilling out onto you know wherever it happens to be but that bag is open because we opened the acid and we were using it at some
Starting point is 00:55:16 point and i noted as i was making my way over to my car that you know the bag was the bag was open and there was like kind of a little bit of like wetness or something. And I was like, oh, okay, but that's fine. Cause I'll just put it in the back where it, where it will, where it will sit up without falling over. Um, and everything will be fine. As I was pulling into my driveway, I was thinking, man, yeah, it's, it's kind of crazy that, you know, given the state of my Civic, like, do you remember riding around with me in that car? Civic like do you remember riding around with me in that car? Yeah back when we first met yeah often yeah, it was in really it was really well kept a oh yeah
Starting point is 00:55:53 Not full of garbage at all no no yeah So I was kind of marveling at you know how people kind of change You know how how you can go from having the actual trash mobile that is a rolling dumpster. I got so desensitized to it that I, I just, I had a conversation with Linus at some point in time where he just, he was just like, if it's in the, if it's in the like passenger seat,
Starting point is 00:56:13 it's just like not important. And I was like, okay. And I just stopped moving stuff out of the way. I don't just sit on it. It's like an actual conversation and actual resolution that we had so as i'm pulling into my driveway thinking like yeah man i've i even like i even empty out my car when i arrive home now every time i pull out everything except a water bottle my powerball like a pen some
Starting point is 00:56:37 like tissues like i have like a loadout and i'm pulling into my driveway and i'm going yeah it's like kind of a mitt and then went Wait a minute. I Had told myself when I got into the car Go easy on the accelerator. There's muriatic acid in the backseat So I pull in I Get out I open up the rear driver's side door It is literally smoking the floor mats are smoking um fortunately
Starting point is 00:57:11 not that much spilled and the way that it spilled i have i have like all weather floor mats and it spilled onto them and then kind of like like surface tensioned over So it's mostly under. But there's an area about this big where all the carpet fuzz is completely... I don't know how to describe it. It's not melted. It's not burned. It's eaten. It's completely eaten away. Dissolved?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, it looks absolutely disgusting. Fortunately, it was like really late. Fortunately, I kept my wits about me. And instead of putting on soap and water, I ran and got baking soda and like. Okay. Yeah. Hucked it on it. And it like, like there was, there was a lot.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It was pretty bad. But anyway. Is it covered by the floor mat? I wish it was completely covered. It's like so close. So like a little bit? It's actually. Is there anything you could do about it?
Starting point is 00:58:09 It's actually okay. Could you arts and crafts repair this? Oh man. No, I'll show it to you after the show. Arts and crafts repair? You're going to see it. You're going to be like, yeah, that was a dumb question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah, it's really bad. When it rains, it pours, you know? I spilled acid in my car. That's great. I dropped my phone in my pool. So these are obviously champagne problems. What can happen next? These are the most champagne problems that you can possibly have,
Starting point is 00:58:38 but it doesn't change the fact that I spilled acid in my car and I dropped my phone in the pool. Well, I dropped myself in the pool. I actually have it on the surveillance footage too so i have a realization moment on the surveillance because if so that might be a good one you said you're gonna make a video for it that might actually be a good thing to include in there i don't know if i do i might have been inside by that point i'll have i'll have to check but either way I definitely have the moment when the air but oh the good news is the
Starting point is 00:59:05 air pod survived great so all I'd so I still have my air pods pros and all it cost me was a galaxy z fold 3 good trade good trade I should play monopoly and I'd be really good at that game like uh uh here I've got
Starting point is 00:59:21 boardwalk can I can I trade it to you for Baltic? Want to give me a railroad? Yeah, I actually really like the railroads. What? Yeah, they're pretty good. Oh, come on. I wouldn't trade it for Boardwalk.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah. No, the railroads suck. No. They're okay. Okay, float, play, and pull. They're great. They're okay. They suck. What play, and pull. They're great. They're okay. They suck.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Dan. What are the best ones? What are the best ones? It's not railroads. What are the best ones? Hold on. I want to hear from Dan first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:57 What, like the railroads or boardwalk? No, no, just railroads. They're good. What do you think of railroads? They suck. They're mid. What are they? They're mid, yeah. Good early game.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Weak late game. Yeah. I think they're great, but I think they're underrated. They're like a Rush B. And then as you move into the late game, you know, you got your econ and you're back and more stable. I don't know where the Counter-Strike references came from, but okay. Or is this Valorant? Did I just age myself?
Starting point is 01:00:26 No, I mean, I was thinking, I don't know, Counter-Strike? Okay, cool. I don't know, it's very late. Give us the poll? All right, I'll make it. Luke, I want my screen sharing back. No. No.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Did you just both say no? Did Dan also say no? I couldn't tell. You guys both spoke at the same time I think Okay, well I have a monopoly board up on my screen, so can I please screen share? Yeah, geez you guys I'm just gonna steal your stream deck. Okay, so what what do you think the best ones are? Okay, I have a pretty strong opinion on this yeah the best ones are Baltic and Mediterranean
Starting point is 01:01:01 They are frickin OP okay, they cost cuz remember remember too okay do you play monopoly correctly no one does what a statement no one does i'm what i'm what i'm trying to say is when you build up your uh your uh houses and your hotels do you require um players to have only at most n plus one on any of a given color you're not allowed to have a hotel on one and nothing on the other oh within within one color band yeah yeah okay so what's so op about baltic and mediterranean is that you can build them up super early yeah they cost freaking nothing because houses are, I think, 50. And a lot of people don't necessarily want them. So you can get them.
Starting point is 01:01:49 So you can trade for them. So then after that, I am super big into right here. Okay. Love this. All of this is just too expensive. And if you build up this stuff, this stuff, man, I love love this zone if you build up this
Starting point is 01:02:06 stuff early you're never gonna get to the late game there's never gonna be a hotel on boardwalk I like orange really I was gonna say I'm an orange man orange is my favorite yeah okay yeah I am definitely more of a Connecticut Vermont Oriental kind of guy yeah and then I just i i love i i love this row because it's just so cheap it's also it'll like keep you floating very effectively how did this turn into monopoly strategy um i'll never know how our show flows but yeah well maybe if you watched it once in a while and you know then you could know why what i don't know you used to watch the land show so you could do the time stamps you really liked it oh no man that was the worst watching a show that you just spent the last
Starting point is 01:02:53 two hours hosting and watching it back immediately too there's no like nostalgic for something you said two hours ago what were we like back then? Do you remember when we talked about monopoly strategy? Turns out kind of obnoxious. Okay. Hey, okay. Oh, wow. You sound a lot less excited.
Starting point is 01:03:16 What do you think of railroads? Wait, you didn't even put mid on there. Yeah. Way to fail the poll. Because they're just good. All right. I am getting outvoted 7 to 1 because Luke has a future career as a politician.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Not because his takes are actually better. The railroads suck. They don't suck. You're underrating them. They cost too much. They have no scalability. Early game. Early game. Dead end.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Dead end. I think they're underrated admittedly it's better than collecting like seven dollars in rent off Baltic or like whatever whatever it works out to it's like nothing if I recall correctly they're like guaranteed gonna do okay they're not gonna win you the game
Starting point is 01:04:02 they're not gonna do any of that kind of stuff you're saying Baltic will? Okay, they're not gonna win you the game. They're not gonna do any of that kind of stuff What you're saying Baltic will? Yeah Baltic and Mediterranean. Yeah, but you have to get both. You gotta have both. Yeah, yeah I think the rent is actually less than $7. I think it's literally $2 on one of them or something like that Like it's absolutely nothing. Can we get- Have they like- have they interested like yeah? Yep, we were going exactly the same place place is there a monopoly that keeps up with inflation I don't I don't I'm not sure I kind of doubt I've seen memes I've seen like millennial edition monopoly you just like you can't afford anything and every single player loses. Yeah All four of you assuming you're playing a four-player game
Starting point is 01:04:48 Have to like bet your futures in crypto so basically it's just boggle then or yahtzee it's just yahtzee you just roll dice yeah oh man whoever gets the the best dice roll wins oh so horrible I love it. Yeah, you can't buy any of the property and you don't own anything and you'll be happy about it. Dan, I have a complaint. Uh-oh. Yeah. I need to issue a complaint. I mean, this is the week to do it. What can I do for you, sir? It's still on two more topics. You are
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Starting point is 01:08:12 Also, their position being five squares in on each side makes it that one is always at risk of landing on a railroad. Also, there are chance cards that send people to them. The rent caps out at $200. Med. Early game. Yeah, but early game, you're not going gonna have all four of them it's 25 bucks the wiki and the poll disagree with both of you all right well you didn't even give the poll a mid option you did dan dirty there where's the rush b dan you're making it really hard for me to defend you right now rush for bread you're oh my god apparently it's 400 not 200 okay so it's what is it 50 100 200 400 okay
Starting point is 01:08:52 doubles every time i still don't look at that value no what you're never gonna value you are never gonna land on all four of them and no one's ever gonna trade you all four of them they'd have to be stupid by the way can i just say for a moment that there is one official rule of monopoly that I think is completely brain dead stupid. And I, I hate playing the game with it. Did you know that when you land on a property, if you have the money to buy it, you must buy it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure like everyone house rules that out because that's just like weird that is it completely it turns monopoly the game of
Starting point is 01:09:31 fairly minimal strategy but technically some into monopoly the game of literally predetermined outcomes i think that was the point when the game was made though wasn't it? I don't know. I thought it was supposed to be an actual game where you can actually win. If I remember correctly, the original creator was trying to... Yeah, progressive writer Elizabeth Maggie Phillips
Starting point is 01:09:58 created Monopoly in 1904 to teach players about the dangers of wealth concentration. Oh. Because one person just takes off and then obviously wins and everyone else goes bankrupt. So it was never meant to be a game. People are like, it's supposed to go to auction if you don't buy it. Okay, that I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Is that in every version of the rule book? I believe so. It goes to auction if you can't afford to buy it immediately. Yeah. Man, what even is this show? It's the Monopoly show. I'm honestly not sure. Okay, when you land on an unowned property,
Starting point is 01:10:27 you may buy that property from the bank at its printed price. You receive the title deed showing ownership, place the title, blah, blah, blah, the bank sells it through auction. Oh, if you do not wish to buy the property, the bank sells it through auction to the highest bidder. Okay. Can you bid on it?
Starting point is 01:10:39 I did not know that. Interesting. I think the only, okay, I'm with Raging Azaru. I think the only rule of'm with i'm with raging azaru i think the only rule of monopoly is that you make your own rules apparently it isn't wealth concentration it's land specifically but owning land is wealth yeah wealth is like the oldest of wealth is a land is the oldest form of wealth yeah as far as i can tell apparently uh they were specifically very into the land aspect but that is like a huge portion of how people store their wealth. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Gaming stream. We play Monopoly. So boring. There's probably like some like PC version that has like stupid animations and stuff. Oh yeah. I had a, I had a version of it for PC back in like the late nineties. It was actually like kind of awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:32 You had these little like characters that were like, like run around the board. Oh man. Okay. Now I will need to find it. Uh, monopoly for windows. Oh my goodness. This might be like windows 3.1. Um, oh, I'm so excited for the nostalgia of looking at this image now.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I think this might have been the one I had. Monopoly Deluxe for DOS. Extreme Monopoly, Insane Monopoly. I do need my screen share button. Nope. Do you want to show something? Are you ready? my screen share button.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Nope. Do you want to show something? Are you ready? I would respectfully request to have my screen share button back. Nope. Not until next week. Not until next week? Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I cannot find exactly the one. It turns out there are a freaking ton of like abandonware or like old versions of Monopoly. Conrad's saying Monopoly Tycoon. What is Monopoly Tycoon? I have no idea. That sounds redundant.
Starting point is 01:12:35 It kind of does. Monopoly Tycoon. Wait, this is on Google Play? Monopoly Tycoon is a management management construction and management simulation pc game i don't is this the same thing what i might have had this one uh maybe it was this one from i'm not sure okay well i'm not the monopoly rts what is happening what is this monopoly tycoon is like not normal monopoly but it's definitely still the monopoly like are you gonna share your screen or is nobody allowed to share screens no no no it's cool let's go what
Starting point is 01:13:19 this is like a mobile app uh oh mine's like not plugged in where did my cord even go so that was my version i get oh wow look if i can't have it neither can anyone it goes on the other side i didn't even take that i actually just was fidgeting i did not do that on purpose that That's hilarious. I did not test them before the show. Okay. It might have been Monopoly Deluxe for PC. I'm honestly not sure. There we go. Yeah, this is it.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It's like actually a different game. Okay, so it's more of a tycoon game. Rollercoaster tycoon inspired, but Monopoly? I'm taking it. You know, fun fact. Rollercoaster tycoon is the tycoon game that basically everybody cites as like the tycoon game. Yeah, because it's the best one. It's not the first one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:28 one it's not the first one okay the first tycoon game that i'm aware of and there might be other ones is dino park tycoon i was first introduced to this and i think either grade two or grade three we had it in on like man oh i'm gonna be dating myself a little bit here. It was installed on like a handful of the computers in our computer lab. Was your school like that where not all the computers had the same software because the school could only afford licenses for a certain number of computers. So sometimes you'd end up stuck on one of the bad computers and you'd be playing like typing tutor games. And then other times you would get on one of the ones with math circus or with dino park tycoon was the most purely video game one. So everyone always wanted to play dino park tycoon.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And I, I love this game so much that I, I bought, um, or I, well, I asked my parents, obviously I was like seven.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Uh, so, so I got a version of it that I could play at home and, um, it sucks. It's like actually a bad game. No matter what you do, the dino park, eventually just nobody comes to it. Like you max out everything. And then it just gets to the point where nobody comes.
Starting point is 01:15:40 And there's no reason. And there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Is there an earlier Tycoon games? Earlier Tycoon game? Rollercoaster Tycoon, so Sawyer, I believe is the last name of the developer for it, wrote 99% of the code for Rollercoaster Tycoon in an assembly code. I was going to ask if you knew that. That is my favorite fact.
Starting point is 01:16:02 That man is a genius. Rollercoaster Tycoon was like solo dev right as far as my understanding goes it was solo dev or at least extremely close to it um there was a there was an artist a separate artist simon foster um and then but yeah sawyer did did the development and it was in uh assembly code So it ran like incredibly efficiently and on like everything. I don't think Dino Park Tycoon is actually related to the Tycoon series. The first Tycoon game in this Wikipedia list of business simulation games
Starting point is 01:16:36 is Sid Meier's Railroad Tycoon. I do not know if that is a similar style of game though. Build and manage a railroad company by laying tracks, building stations and buying and scheduling trains. Okay. That really doesn't really sound like the same kind of thing as rollercoaster tycoon transport tycoon. I thought,
Starting point is 01:16:58 okay, I got to tell you guys, I thought tycoon was like TM. I thought that that was a, I thought that that was a a series but railroad tycoon doesn't come along until hold on where is railroad tycoon oops sorry railroad um roller coaster tycoon roller coaster tycoon doesn't roll around till 1999 so preceding that was Railroad Tycoon from Microprose in 1990. Dino Park Tycoon from MECC Manly and Associates, whoever they are, in 1993. Sid Meier's Railroad Tycoon Deluxe.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Okay, I'm not really going to count that. Pizza Tycoon from Software 2000 in 1994. Pizza Tycoon. Transport Tycoon. That's probably awesome. Which is Chris Sawyer. Wait, I want to play Transport Tycoon now. So he actually did a Tycoon game before Roller Coaster Tycoon.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Transport Tycoon is 10 out of 10 on Steam. Overwhelmingly positive. Yeah, that's the one I was going to mention. Open TTD. Well, if you ever game stream again, I think we found you a game to play. Is this multiplayer? To start
Starting point is 01:18:15 building a transport. It has online PVP? Oh yeah. Because you're a business and you have to compete with other towns. Like you're the mayor of some town. Okay, you sound like you're speaking fairly authoritatively. Have you played this game? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Is it a good game? It is. Dude, it has... Way beyond my understanding to play effectively. It's very deep. And there's, like, boat routes and trains and, like, buses and all sorts of weird resource management it's basically uh better anno but for different reasons those are big words i just wanted to upset linus those are very big words uh the oh the all time all reviews on steam are over 10,000 are overwhelmingly positive.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Well, not all 10,000 of them are, but there are over 10,000 all time reviews and their average is overwhelmingly positive. And the recent reviews are also overwhelmingly positive, which is awesome. I've heard of this before. I don't believe this has anything to do with Sawyer anymore. This is like kind of an open source-y thing, I think. I think so. It's a different game than a lot of other stuff. I wouldn't even necessarily classify it as a game so much as...
Starting point is 01:19:37 How do you win at business in a game like this? I think you have to have like set rules, right? You can't just kind of vibe with it. Right. Yeah, you can't just kind of have a system and let it live. That's kind of how Anno is, right? Yeah, I think Anno's... Anno is kind of a different beast. I know if Linus likes Anno he may enjoy this, but maybe wouldn't get the same from it that he does Anno. I think a big part of why I like Anno so much is just that I played the first one as a kid.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I don't know that it's the kind of game that I would get into today, even though I could still obviously... I have heard every two-hour warning that you should probably stop playing to the point where they stop being unique. I think that happens at 10 hours of consecutive play. Like, I do.
Starting point is 01:20:30 That's a tough game to play for 10 hours. I like Anno the same way that, like, a cokehead likes cocaine. Like, it's not just liking it. I haven't played in quite a while because it's one of those things that I get into and I'm just like... I still have the notes from our save. Oh, yeah, I mean... I haven't played in quite a while because it's one of those things that I just I get into and I'm just like I
Starting point is 01:20:50 Still have the notes from our save. Oh, yeah, I mean we could pick it up at some point I don't know if it's a good idea. I am I am you mentioned streaming. I am fully still planning on streaming Starfield Dino Park tycoon was apparently the Oregon Trail developer. Oh Yeah, played the heck out of that game at school did you did you ever play the like Canadian version the Yukon Trail I wait I think that might actually be what we had yeah see as a as a young Canadian lad um I don't remember I don't remember when I had this experience but I was conversing with someone and I was like yeah yeah like Yukon Trail and they're like the f*** are you talking about like yeah like Yukon Trail you know you okay so I definitely played Yukon Trail you're on the frontier and you you know
Starting point is 01:21:37 maybe dysentery and they're like did you mean Oregon Trail I'm like what's Oregon Yukon Trail yeah Yukon Trail I played both of these for sure. Yeah. Okay, hold on. Hold on a second. Yeah, see? Chat's like, Yukon Trail, that's a thing? Yeah, no, come on.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Yukon Trail is totally a thing. Okay, hold on. I think we need another float plane. Another float plane poll. Let's see. How do you do polls? I should really this go to the go to the player page oh it's on the player page i never have the player page open to the right of the title all the way across there's a little like uh bar chart icon click on that right of the time oh why is it there i don't know where do you want
Starting point is 01:22:24 it i don't know in the chat it doesn it? I don't know. In the chat. It doesn't matter. Leave it where it is. Okay. Sounds good. Best trail. Yukon. Oregon.
Starting point is 01:22:36 All right. Duration. Let's give them two minutes. Okay. The poll's live. I want to know which one's the right trail. Really? It's going to get slaughtered.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Oh, but you can get the gold. What about the gold in the Yukon? It's a gold rush. Jaden said it's also in the creator panel. Okay. Thanks, Jaden. Everything that I cherished as a child is being crushed. By the way, I want to give a shout out for Jaden. My everything that I cherished as a child is being crushed. By the way, I want to give a shout out for Jaden because Jaden launched a very cool feature during our we're not launching videos phase.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Is he supposed to be doing that? Yeah. What do you mean? I thought people weren't supposed to be like, I mean, I guess the dev team really didn't have anything to do with any of this. We were good. All right, fair enough. We're good. You do your thing with your team.
Starting point is 01:23:30 The thing that we needed to do was keep advancing the platform, which is what we're doing. And there's a new player. There's a new player on Floatplane, and it's very cool. You should check it out. It looks nice. I think a lot of people didn't notice because the visual path that the player went down is like kind of in line with what you'd expect. But if you go look at it, it is different.
Starting point is 01:23:49 The old version was kind of like a bar that would like fill as it went across. Are you going to share your screen or are you just going to be like that for the entire rest of the show? No, I'm just going to describe it. No, he's going to share his screen. I mean, why show a video when you can just describe the video this is it yeah yeah it's cool and it's react now why don't you explain what and there's being react me there's there's dark mode in the live chat now as you guys can see on the right here like i'm five though why does it matter that it's React? So we are trying to convert everything to React.
Starting point is 01:24:28 We've been in Angular for a long time, so it's a framework we've been using. And on the front end, we're trying to convert to React. The state that our Angular was in was not great. And also, I don't know, there's just long conversation, but there's reasons why we wanted to move to React. The development time for something like the live chat improvements that happened a little while ago um if i remember correctly we had spec'd that out
Starting point is 01:24:54 at i'm gonna forget i apologize it was like five weeks or something and then it was reactified instead of left in angular and i think it took Jaden like two days or three days or something. So site should react a little better when you load it and use it. And also it's faster, easier to develop, all that jazz. We're moving off of Angular, moving to React. Okay. So that is good. There is not that much left on the user-facing portion.
Starting point is 01:25:26 We split the site into three sections. There's now user-facing portion, creator-facing portion, and admin portion. And there's not that much left to get the user-facing portion to have the Angular wrapper removed from it. So it will be all React soon. Now tell me this. How much truth is there in this message in Twitch chat? It's Twitch chat, so it will be all react soon now tell me this how much truth is there in this message in twitch chat it's twitch chat so i'm it's probably wrong but um react is the next framework until another new hotness comes out and you just port the entire project to yet another framework
Starting point is 01:25:55 hashtag just dev things are we just gonna oh htmx yeah yeah we already have the internet we already have another one react is like old what are you doing luke that's not that old that's still good i know i know uh it is it is you i think we are getting to the point there where some people are like me i've been working in react for a while i want something new new tiny shiny toys we're a little slow on this movement for sure but i see that is sort of, yeah, I don't know. Hey, it has theater mode now though. Yep.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Show the people theater mode maybe. Uh, yeah. Maybe we just won't share screens. Cause you know, people should just go use it for themselves and then comment on it and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. No, you should show the people theater mode.
Starting point is 01:26:40 They can't find the button. You can't even see your screen. What do you mean? Yeah. Hold on. Totally unprofessional show. worst worst show when show more like when to not watch it show okay now i gotta get rid of this you don't have to do anything we could we oh oh crap we're supposed to be doing merch messages uh dan while luke figures out his stuff by the way yukon trail
Starting point is 01:27:03 lost so i yeah i'm really disappointed in actually everyone right now. Dan, do you want to hit me with a couple of merch messages? Sure, sure, sure, sure. Hi, DLL, the correct acronym. Depending on how the stubby goes, any thoughts on something in between? Normal handle with a short shaft. The normal handle with a stubby shaft. shaft the normal handle with a stubby shaft i think that you sir are a niche user um hacksaw that's a good way to answer that yeah i know dan can you please not give the people really really
Starting point is 01:27:40 bad advice there is literally nowhere on the shaft of the screwdriver that they could cut that would retain the bit holder by a stubby and a normal one and transplant no no that is actually not recommended either here hold on wait um yeah we don't have anything planned for that right now hey theater mode and the chat is still there cool yay yeah good job flow play team it's it's called fill window but yeah and there's a keyboard macro w cool there we go okay oh that did a bunch of the that makes sense yeah cool yeah uh hey linus a belated birthday wish to you have you gotten a chance to celebrate turning 37 amidst everything that's been happening? And how did your birthday go?
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah, I went camping, which I hate. But my kids really enjoyed it. And Dennis and Colton came out, which was pretty cool. We had an extra campsite because it's really hard to get campsites at provincial parks in BC. Like, you basically have to get up at 7am, which bless my wife. Um, she did so cause she's amazing. Uh, but she managed to get not one, but two. And because she had the opportunity to get to, she grabbed them. Cause like, yeah, then we could invite people to come with us. So we were, we were up there with some friends, um, some family and also Dennis and Colton came.
Starting point is 01:29:13 We ate some burgies, went to the beach, the lake, the beach on the lake, the rocks near the edge of the lake. Okay, it's not much of a beach, but it's definitely a lake. And yeah, yeah, we hung out. It was good. Jaden says that he wants the stubby handle with the long shaft. That seems at least more likely. I can actually kind of that i could i could i could kind of see that but the the big handle with the little tiny shaft is um it's a little weird yeah it's one that i i can't an incredibly taxing I was gonna say and it's been a heck of a week yeah
Starting point is 01:30:02 people are confused burghies like snackies drinkies yeah i got it yeah burgies yeah yes burgers apparently it's late for everyone uh dan you want to move one more yeah what do we got sure sure sure i got one left looking forward to you guys moving forward any tech changes to improve production workflow i gotta tell you the. Any tech changes to improve production workflow? I got to tell you, the thing about tech changes is that they typically add work as opposed to actually eliminating work. There are times when in the longer term, tech changes can help to lighten your workload. I think a really good example of that would be the Blackmagic Ultimate that we added for GameLinked. But to get it to that point was a ton of work and so because this week was really focused on
Starting point is 01:30:53 hammering out human Challenges, you know figuring out communication and process building We were not really looking for excuses to play around with more tech toys and and find ways to integrate them into a workflow that already really needed some tlc so no in short yeah all right um a couple more topics what do you want to talk about microsoft removes offensive ai written articles do you want to talk about? Microsoft removes offensive AI written articles. Do you want to talk about AI, Luke?
Starting point is 01:31:28 I'm actually going to interject in front of the AI. Really? To talk about a topic that I think I've brought up for the last four WAN shows? Three? Okay, so what? This is like a new streak? This is like your sub-streak? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Okay, what is it? what this is like a new streak this is like the your sub streak yeah okay what is it uh not much because of recent events but i got some time to play ballers gate 3 finally oh okay and fantastic bear sex no okay not not in my run no i mean i heard that's a thing i think it is yeah so why not i don't know do you not like bears i don't know if I'm far enough in the game yet. What's your problem? Don't kink shame. I know, I know. I really didn't think we were going to go down this path.
Starting point is 01:32:16 And Dan has excused himself. See you, Dan. Just leaves. Oh, wow. No, I think I know what character that would be, but I'm still- Probably the bear. I'm just-
Starting point is 01:32:28 It would be a druid. Yeah, I'm trying to help you. Because they could shapeshift into a bear. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So the bear. I think I- The bear bear.
Starting point is 01:32:36 I think I know. They're not in my team yet, but I think I know who it would be. But no, but it's just a great game. I've really enjoyed Larian Studio games up to this point. They didn't get rid of the Larian Studio ID that is really good. Like a lot of the combat mechanics and camera style and how the game kind of feels at its core still feels Larian,
Starting point is 01:33:01 which is great. But then you have this D&D layer on top of it where there's like dice rolls for things. And you have inspiration so you can re-roll things and stuff. It's just really cool. If you can dress up as like a horny bear, would you say that it's a leisure suit Larian game? He's not here to press the bell, so I don't have to worry about it. I can mute your mic, by the way. That's another thing that I did.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Shut up. And you're muted. You're gone. I still have- oh. Um, okay, well I guess you get to fix that now. That'll be fine. Here, you're back. You're back. I put in- I put in special safety measures and told no one for the show today. The chat's calling them scum saves. Scum saves?
Starting point is 01:33:50 What? You're scum saving the show. Because of the buttons? Yeah. It's great, dude. It's great. I got the idea from you unplugging my mic. I was like, how can I do that but easier?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Oh, no. Did you tell him about the buttons? Yeah, I used it. Oh, my God. Yeah. I want my screen sharing back. Next week. Not this week.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Next week. All right. Fine. You got to be a good boy. I am a good boy. You got to earn your screen share. I'm an extremely good boy. It feels good to do WANhow but yeah i don't know
Starting point is 01:34:26 i was very happy i got to play i didn't get to play it much but i played a little bit and i just you just know within playing the game for like an hour you're like this is awesome that's cool this is going to be awesome and every bit that i played beyond i played with wendell for a while cool is it multiplayer yeah oh sick up to four people. Yeah, thanks for inviting me. Yeah, no problem. I gotta, you gotta be careful with that right now because if somebody joins
Starting point is 01:34:49 your campaign, Yeah, you can't, you can't remove the character. I came unstuck. Somebody on Reddit posted a really good post about how to fix that so you can actually
Starting point is 01:34:57 delete it at the moment. Oh, wow. So you can undo that because I ruined my whole campaign. But yeah, we should play sometime. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yeah. I suspect this is gonna go similarly to divinity original sin yeah i have about 47 000 games that i play for you know a few hours with a single person and then never continue again yeah um that's fine but it's fun anyways i i'm not gonna do it i'm busy playing chain decos every single time i see you online playing chain so you know what the problem is? I have, I think, 70 hours in the game, but I have only made it to the beginning of the third chapter because I just keep falling asleep. Not because it's a bad or boring game,
Starting point is 01:35:41 but it has been a very exhausting week. Do you want to guess how many hours I have in Slay the Spire? Oh, no, I think I know this. I think it's like 5,000 hours or something stupid like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I just leave it open. There's- when you finish a run, it'll tell you like how long it took you, and sometimes I'll finish a run and it'll be like three days. People speed- people speedrun it in like minutes the anti-speed run i get so bothered by it too though because it's like i don't know why i care um but okay uh remember when people were kind of scumming tf2 upgrades or something, or like getting items. There were specific- Those custom maps.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Yeah, those custom maps. And remember Valve's Revenge, where they made it like mess up your stats forever? So I have certain classes where- Oh, you did that? Yeah, where I did that. And so my stats are just completely broken and there's no way to undo it.
Starting point is 01:36:44 And because of the kind of person I am that bothers me So much like I don't even really a part of me is uneasy that other people play beat Sabre on our on our machine because Because there's lifetime stats for like successful cuts and percentages and stuff like that I'm like these aren't real numbers This sucks and it's the same for the Chained Echoes playtime. The second I fell asleep once while the game was running, I was just like,
Starting point is 01:37:12 I don't even know if I want to play this game anymore. I hate it when there's a counter and it's not accurate. It bothers me. So Slay the Spire has something called Ascensions and it's like a scaling hard mode, basically. Every Ascension, there's a new type of difficulty that they introduce. Like, okay, bosses are harder now.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Normal enemies are harder now. You heal for less after you beat a boss. That's pretty cool. Other random... Kind of like New Game Plus. Chances are less likely to go in your favor. Lots of different stuff. So the game gets harder up to 20 times,
Starting point is 01:37:42 and it gets, like, really, really brutal. And I have Ascension 20 on the the silent which is one of the characters i have like 18 on ironclad and then not that high on the other ones um if somebody played on my account and pushed one of the ascensions and it wasn't me that would bother me a lot. Forever. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. I hear that. That would like, I don't know. I've, I've, I've actually like had the thought before, like, would I have to try to like wipe my save and just restart? I have some serious conversations with my kids about, you know, all kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And as a gamer dad, one of the serious conversations I had is okay. You can play cross code if you save over my my save game you are for real in trouble do not do that do you do do you do like um like family sharing or do you just does everyone just use the same steam account no um it's probably time for me to just get around to setting everybody up with their own Steam accounts. There's so many like free to play games that like there's tons of stuff that they can do without using my Steam account. Yeah. But like if I buy a new game, I will typically just buy it on my account so that it's convenient for me.
Starting point is 01:38:57 And so like our TV in the basement is just logged into my account. So I'm like a good Rocket League player now, which is pretty cool. What? Well, my son plays Rocket League. Okay. Yeah, and he just plays on my account. So I'm like, I don't know what his rank is, but it's like... Oh, so you mean like on a Steam observation level, you're a good Rocket League player.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Okay, okay, okay, okay. I thought you actually like were playing with him a bunch. I was like, whoa. No, I suck at Rocket League. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I'm decent now, apparently's pretty cool that's cool um anyways i wanted to take a short aside to just like talk about video games i guess people are saying what rank i don't know if you should i don't actually know okay i i i mean with all the like millions of people at every stupid rank
Starting point is 01:39:43 in market there's also yeah there's an insane amount of... No, I didn't mean that. I just mean, like, people are going to... I don't know. I don't know how good it is. Yeah, I don't even know what their ranks are. But there's a ton of granularity in Rocket League ranks, and they change them, like, all the time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Or at least they've changed them a lot in the past. I don't know if they have changed them much. I'm sure he'd know. Yeah. Hey, Linus, what happened to that game showdown with Ludwig? So here's something awkward. Is there a reason that you didn't tell me that the challenge I was describing was basically a format he already does? No, I did tell you that.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Oh, did you? A hundred percent. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know why I didn't realize that. Oh, yeah, no. We were doing like a float plane meeting in your office and you mentioned that this had happened. And I was like, oh yeah, he like does this.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And I told you about it there. And then you were like, oh, we should talk about it on WAN show. And I guarantee you, you completely forgot between then and when WAN show happened. But I totally told you about this. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, definitely. Cool.
Starting point is 01:40:42 So anyway, I don't know. Yeah, I guess I better ping him. If we're we're gonna feud we should probably like do it properly you know yeah sure yeah all right yeah maybe he's just training yeah there's like a format and everything you submit some games there's some like neutral games or something yeah and he submits I think it's hilarious that like yeah I basically pitched his own format to him it's awkward it's a good job good job Linus yeah yes thanks for having my back there Luke oh hey we have a new segment for WAN Show. The segment is called This Was Not a Video. So as part of our, I mean, this is something that we had already started before the week of introspection, as I've come to call it.
Starting point is 01:41:37 But we have a new process for doing what's called exploratory testing. And so instead of, we ran into this a handful of times where the labs would labs team would get an assignment or get a project pitch from the writers and they would basically run through and do all the testing and then we find out you know there really wasn't much of a story there unfortunately and we can't really move forward with it but we've done like all this testing now and so we we made a new sort of process for pitching exploratory testing and setting a much more limited scope to help us answer whether there is something worth exploring dan thanks dan literally wasted paper um creating a little thing to put on his little sign that says this was not a video. Dan, it's not going to happen every week.
Starting point is 01:42:32 It's not part of the regular program. Okay. The point is that we had a concept for a video that in my brain seemed kind of cool. in my brain seemed kind of kind of cool and the idea was should you disable the igpu on your cpu in order to free up some power budget to get better cpu performance because we know that modern chips can be so power and thermal constrained that any little bit a few extra watts of idling gpu could potentially be problematic And so what we what we decided to do was instead of testing, I think the the scope that I saw when I kind of went, holy crap, are we really going to do all this testing without any idea if this is if this is a completely dead end or not,
Starting point is 01:43:18 was I think we wanted like six different CPUs, three AMD, three Intel, and then like a whole whack ton of different benchmarks. It's going to be like a week of testing or something like that. And I was looking at it going, oh, okay, hold on a second. Can we just take our most likely candidates, you know, the ones that we think are most power constrained, and then we test those ones and we see if there's any performance to be gleaned. and then if there's something there well then we keep digging we go to the medium power and the lower power ones to see if oh actually on those ones you can just leave it on because they aren't power
Starting point is 01:43:53 constrained anyway so the notes say we we recently canned a video on whether yeah this was inspired by the early behavior from ryzen 7000s DGPU we're having a display connected cause the CPU to not sleep properly, so it idled with high power consumption. That is fixed now. So our questions were, What performance impact does the iGPU have on the CPU when it's enabled versus disabled? Does the extra power draw and heat generated reduce max turbo speeds or durations?
Starting point is 01:44:20 Does this change when a display is connected or disconnected? Does this change when you're using the iGPU's hardware encoder, for example, in a streaming setup? And does a disabled 13400 behave identically to a 13400F, which just doesn't have the IGPU from Intel? So whether they laser it off or whether it's done in firmware or whatever else, however they do that, is there some difference between disabling it yourself and having Intel disable it? So in summary, our exploratory testing showed there was no result. The question has no satisfying answer. There's not going to be be as far as we can tell a significant measurable difference and we kind of went well um hmm it's really hard to make a whole video
Starting point is 01:45:13 where from start to finish it's like this doesn't matter here's all the new ways this doesn't matter here's a new scenario where this doesn't matter we know the answer ahead of time too so this isn't like a voyage of discovery yeah yeah um we don't know for sure 100 percent that there are no cpus out there that just not that one yeah we we know that it's modern ones are looking like probably not really a thing and we we just but so so there's no video. But I wanted a way to kind of talk about this stuff. Like if we're going to test them, why don't we at least tell you guys, like, hey, we looked into this and it seems like it might be a dead end. So that's our new segment called This Was Not a Video. And it was should you use your IGPU?
Starting point is 01:46:05 The answer, as far as we can tell, is yes. Go ahead and turn on your IGPU, which is good, I suppose. Music labels are suing the Internet Archive. A group of six music labels, including Sony and UMG, are suing the Internet Archive over their Great 78, an attempt to preserve music that was recorded on 78 rpm discs a format that was didn't we talk about this two weeks ago i'm not sure i don't think so yeah i'm removing it let's talk about microsoft removing offensive
Starting point is 01:46:36 ai written articles they have taken down a series of bizarre articles published by microsoft travel oh this oh it's this. Yes, okay. I want to talk about this. Including an article that listed the Ottawa Food Bank as a tourist attraction with the caption, life is already difficult enough. Consider going into it on an empty stomach. What? What the heck does that even mean um another article on where
Starting point is 01:47:12 to dine in montreal suggested trying a hamburger it gave a it gave a wikipedia style explanation of what a hamburger is that it suggested checking out mcdonald's hamburger is that it suggested checking out McDonald's Yet another article on local delicacies in Anchorage suggests trying seafood which is Basically any form of sea life regarded as food by humans. Probably including fish and shellfish. I wish this wasn't an AI writer. And it was just some writer that was like,
Starting point is 01:47:58 these articles are boring. I'm just going to make them really weird. are boring, I'm just gonna make them really weird. Because that's actually amazing. It's not quite a have you considered genocide moment, but it's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Oh, man. Oh, i needed that um microsoft claims that the publication was the result of human error oh yeah human error to put an ai in charge that's the human error that occurred sorry microsoft i'm not buying it sorry what what they also say in quotes the content was generated through a combination of algorithmic techniques with human review, not a large language model or AI system. Yeah, true. Microsoft laid off a significant portion of the MSN journalistic and editorial teams in favor of algorithmic content curation in mid 2020. In other AI writing news, a U.S. judge recently determined that fully machine-authored artistic works are ineligible for copyright protection. This decision may yet be overturned on an appeal.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Okay, a lot of people are complaining that they couldn't understand me when I read the Anchorage one. Do you want to try to read it and be intelligible? to try to read it and be intelligible? Yet another article on local delicacies in Anchorage suggests trying seafood, which is, in quotes, basically
Starting point is 01:49:34 any form of sea life regarded as food by humans. Prominently including fish and shellfish it kind of is that's what what i like so much about each one of these is that they like it's just art it just becomes art it's not technically untrue it feels almost like malicious compliance writing yeah they're like they got this task they're like all right you need to you need to write about local delicacies you have to write 18 articles
Starting point is 01:50:14 today yeah and they're like all right fine this is what seafood is this is what hamburgers are. Good luck! Go to McDonald's. Food is something that you can eat to stay alive. No one in my generation has any money. Go to the food bank. Seafood is anything that is not land or air food. Oh man. Oh no. Okay. Whew. Um, anywho, um... What an amazing topic. Oh, man. Oh, no. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Anywho. What an amazing topic. Meta is blocking Canadian news, including satirical news. Yeah. So the recap. Meta has been blocking links to Canadian news on its platforms, including Facebook and Instagram, since August 1st in response to a law passed by the federal Canadian government requiring large tech companies to pay news sites when their content is linked on their platform.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Google, meanwhile, says that it will do the same once the law takes full effect. The news block has been criticized for potentially endangering Canadians during ongoing crises, such as the ongoing forest fires. In addition to many legitimate news sources, Canada's own version of the Onion News, the Beaverton, was caught up in the ban. The site's editor sent a letter to Mark Zuckerberg and clarified its page information to indicate that it is satirical.
Starting point is 01:51:38 The ban on Beaverton material has since been lifted. I love their letter, by the way. Dear Mr. Zuckerberg, and I'm skipping a lot, this action is outrageous. To label us and our content as news is not only false, it is highly insulting and defamatory. To be clear, we are satirists, liars, miscreants, fabulists, hyperbolists,
Starting point is 01:52:03 beguilers,sters and every other tuesday charlatans if meta god what a stupid name in brackets chose to block the content of pages that engaged in this activity we would have no choice other than to accept it but to be labeled as a common news organization alongside such dreck as the Rebel and the National Post. It makes us feel dirty just to think about it. Anyway, love their letter. It's exactly what I would expect from the Beaverton. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Thank you. Yeah. Matt from LabsWeb posted in Floating Chat saying, Links to Snope are also apparently considered news. What? Seriously? plane chat saying uh links to snope are also apparently considered news what seriously they're just cleaving too much and then probably seeing who's going to complain and we'll clean it up from there that's my uh god what a stupid name it really is now that the metaverse is well and truly dead and buried it really swing and a miss on that one yeah it it aged like i'm trying to think of
Starting point is 01:53:08 something like what's they should just rename to like ai is it a mayfly mayfly that has like a 24 hour life cycle or something like that like what are they um mayfly life cycle um like whatever whatever the next thing they're working on is they should just rename it that they should have renamed themselves threads for like four days yeah some mayflies live for only eight to ten hours after they become an adult so there you go they had little biology fact that it aged like a mayfly yeah do we even have any other topics? Are we good? Did we do it? I think that's basically it.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Yeah. Credit agency dinged for spam? Yeah. I mean, yeah. And? That happened. Which one? Credit agency dinged for spam.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Credit reporting agency Experian has been fined $650,000 for violating spam laws. This fine? No. Okay, whatever. This fine is 0.08% of their recent yearly net income. Cool. So basically what we're saying is spam is okay. Sorry, I know you were going to read the whole thing, but at the end of the day, none of it matters.
Starting point is 01:54:19 What matters is that none of it mattered. Yep. Cool. That's unfortunate. Rockstar, this is kind of interesting rockstar acquires modding group that it once banned rockstar has acquired cfx.re the modding team behind the biggest roleplay servers for gta 5 and red dead redemption 2 5m and red m despite the fact that they banned cfx., which I'm sure has a name that you're supposed to pronounce in a different way,
Starting point is 01:54:45 principal creators from both games back in 2015. CFX.RE originally set up these dedicated servers for role-playing mods that allowed players to use custom vehicles, maps, and weapons and inhabit those game worlds as virtually anyone. As of April 2021, these servers had a quarter million players. Whoa. In 2015, Rockstar called the GTA server an unauthorized alternate multiplayer server that contains code to facilitate piracy.
Starting point is 01:55:17 In November of last year, Rockstar changed its policy on roleplay servers, allowing use of these servers so long as they are non-commercial, do not misuse IP or trademarks, and do not interfere with its official online and multiplayer services. I think it's cool. I don't necessarily think it's... I don't know the whole history around them banning them in the first place, but I think the fact that they hired on this team of modders is cool. I like when that stuff happens
Starting point is 01:55:45 personally when there was uh skyrim modders getting hired by bethesda i thought that was great i think that type of stuff is fantastic here's a question for you you know um what if we what if we see these projects kind of absorbed back into rockstar's own portfolio in a way that is not as cool and not true to the original vision. Then do you still support it? Are they just buying their way out of people liking this more popular piracy friendly version of their game versus their own official? I mean, that's kind of unfortunate, but now these modders have jobs. And if they accepted the job, like they now have a career and they got there through modding
Starting point is 01:56:25 which is like that's the part of it that i think is cool right like yeah i don't know i like we talked about that hacker earlier and how there's a path for a lot of hack i'm not suggesting you do this yeah but there's a there has been a path that has been observed for hackers in the past, um, where you break into systems and then get hired by the owners of said system to, to try to fix the hole.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Um, and that's been an interesting thing. Um, and then now there's this where you're not breaking into the system, but you're, you're showing that you're, you know, driven to work on this thing.
Starting point is 01:57:05 And then you get hired for that. I think that's awesome. And if that means that you lose certain mods, that's unfortunate. But I'm happy that people are able to get careers doing the thing that they clearly love to do. I like that part. Yeah. All right. Is it time for land show after dark?
Starting point is 01:57:26 I think so. Or you hack valve and they honeypot you and you get arrested. Lol. It says nameless Ted in the flow. There's like, uh, I do not suggest doing it. And there's a lot of specific ways to like,
Starting point is 01:57:38 kind of do it properly. Yeah. You can go. You're good. Whatever you want. Nice. It's when after dark. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:48 I think it's going to be a short when after dark. And it kind of literally is because it's past midnight already. Well, got him. Hit me, Dan. Okay, let's see. Yeah, we've got a few here. Hi, Dan. Okay, let's see. Yeah, we've got a few here. Hi, Dan Cho. Hope you guys and team are staying strong.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Have you ever had any experiences where you thought to yourselves, if I do this or cross this line, there is no going back? I think when we bought the studio. I was going to say, yeah, I mean, that was huge.
Starting point is 01:58:27 What a like enormous life changing moment, right? Like it was a man, how much of it was dead at the time? By the time we did all the tenant improvements and everything like, like built out the space and stuff, like we're probably a million dollars in debt, which was at that point in time the space and stuff. Like we're probably a million dollars in debt, which was.
Starting point is 01:58:45 At that point in time was enormous. Yeah. Like I, I hoped I would get out of it eventually, you know, like it was not, um, it was not trivial. Right. Um, I mean, obviously when we started the whole thing, um, yeah, I mean, walking into my boss's office at NCIX was pretty terrifying when I, when I laid out that I am leaving, because that was the only way that I had any kind of negotiating position. I basically had to say, look, I'm leaving regardless.
Starting point is 01:59:15 So you have two paths you can follow. You can follow the path where I help keep NCIX Tech Tips running and help you transition this. Or you have to figure out how to replace me in like, you know, two weeks notice or whatever. Wait, sorry, what are the two? Right. Either I walk away and you try to figure out how to transition this thing in like two weeks notice. And I go work for a competitor and I will build this again for them. Or you work with me.
Starting point is 01:59:44 I take Linus Tech Tips. I help you keep NCIX Tech Tips running. I help you transition it. And I will give you, he asked for like four months notice or something like that, which in retrospect is way too long. You should never be working at a job
Starting point is 01:59:57 that you know you're leaving for like a quarter by the end of it. I mean, the good news is there was a lot of time to transition things off me the bad news is by the last month i no one was assigning me anything i didn't have anything to do because i think there's some scenarios where it might make sense extremely senior people in certain positions like you want to if you want to leave super amicably i i've seen situations where like you want to give a really serious amount of time so they can recruit and like fully train up the replacement,
Starting point is 02:00:29 stuff like that. Um, four months is a long time, but I've heard of, I've heard of some from very long, long, uh, notice periods,
Starting point is 02:00:42 man. It's late. Yeah. Next up. notice periods man it's late yeah next up uh let's see here hey lld any favorite stories from ltx and whale land hmm man i just uh i i just loved the energy of the crowd. Like even just the kickoff, like welcome to LTX on the first day. It was so positive the whole time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Everyone was super cool. It was pretty cool. Creator Dinner was super cool. Yeah. Just like gaming in the LAN. I never get to do that stuff these days. Just like desperately trying to get my poor team of just you guys tried I love my team but you guys are terrible um yeah trying to get my team to cap some flags in uh blood gulch yeah halo uh halo ce yeah I mean the whole thing was it's kind of a blur looking back on it now but
Starting point is 02:01:44 it was it was a blast of a blur a blur of a now, but it was a blast of a blur, a blur of a blast. It was really fun. I hope we're able to do it again. Yeah. Linus, I am buying this screwdriver specifically for working and fixing equipment for Krispy Kreme. Did you ever think the screwdriver would be as widely used as it is? I hoped, I mean, we, we ordered a hundred thousand right out of the gate. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:10 The hopes, hopes and dreams. Um, I had a lot riding on that. That was, man, that was another, that was another like do or die moment. We were either going to be a physical goods business or we were going to like sink that portion of the business on this like stupid screwdriver and backpack hail, like double hail Mary that we were going to like sink that portion of the business on this like stupid screwdriver and backpack hail, like double hail Mary that we were throwing. Um, so I hoped, but I don't know if I, I don't know if I really believed it. I mean, you saw how stressed I was leading up to the launch of the screwdriver and the backpack. Like I was a mess, man. I think these were like
Starting point is 02:02:41 multimillion dollar bets. Those were, those were both bigger bets than this warehouse, these were like multi-million dollar bets those were those were both bigger bets than this warehouse which i i think says a lot about you know our company's trajectory and also says a lot about stupid vancouver real estate the fact that a building could be worth less than an order of screwdrivers that long ago and now is just yeah yeah. To the point where it's hard to even find space to expand into. It's ridiculous. Extremely. Yo, welcome back, folks.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Love this capacitor design. Racket sports question for you. Have you ever played racquetball or squash? Any thoughts on how the feel, strategy, or flow of badminton compares? Have you ever played racquetball or squash yeah but it's been a really long time i only played squash once i actually played with ed i remember this for some yeah we were in richmond shooting a video and it was like or we there was a flight
Starting point is 02:03:38 and we were early for it or something i don't remember we had time to kill we were in richmond and we're like let's play squash let's go play well he played he played when he was in like high school or something okay and i had i had said like i really want to try it it it just looked so fun like just the the like the three dimensionality of it how you can kind of hit it backwards and stuff like there's no it's there's no it's not a net it's a line on the wall i just i don't know it just kind of tickled me um it's so fun it's yeah it's really fun i've never tried racket ball my understanding is it's on the same court but instead of the squishy ball it's like a like a hard rubber ball but i i don't know yeah, really, really fun. I'm not good enough at it to comment on, you know, how it compares to Badminton or whatever
Starting point is 02:04:29 else. Yeah. Definitely had a blast. I played it like a few times when I was like genuinely a child, like very, very young. So I don't even remember how it works. Hi DLL. Started playing Baldur's Gate with my wife in split screen. Unfortunately, not too many games have split screen couch co-op these days.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Yeah. What are your favorites, either recent or old? Oh, dude, the Halo games. Got a lot of play on the split screen. My dad and I, I don't remember, I think it was Halo 2. I don't remember which one it was. It was either Halo 1 or Halo 2. When you beat one of the missions,
Starting point is 02:05:05 it would show the shield icon for the difficulty level. So Legendary, it had the shield and the two swords crossing and the skull on it, and then it had all the other ones. And we had this mission where we wanted every single icon for every single level. So my dad and I beat every single level in that Halo game on Legendary and the other difficulties. And it was actually like kind of fun. Can I derail this conversation for a second here
Starting point is 02:05:33 and talk about how the gaming culture has changed by having so many options for games. You would, unless you are a completionist and you're like kind of into that, you would never play a game like that anymore. And I really realized this. Free play really changed that. I realized this as I was going through
Starting point is 02:05:56 and there was some stupid puzzle where you're like supposed to push orbs around in chained echoes that I just, my brain was tired and I didn't feel like it. And so I went to look up a walkthrough for it. And then there was also, I was trying to get some information on like crystal combining and like, you know, kind of the rules around that. And finding resources for this game, there's like a handful of Reddit threads on any given
Starting point is 02:06:24 subject, but basically nothing. And this is a game that from my understanding was reasonably successful, but you compare that to trying to find like the way that people will obsessively deconstruct a game. Like, you know, one of my, one of my all-time favorites and like my childhood favorite game, Final Fantasy VI, the way that people have dug into you know every little bug and miscalculation in the combat system and every possible uh combination of you know weapons and relics and espers and other items and whatever else right um the way that people and and i'm sure there's exceptions to this but but the way that
Starting point is 02:07:02 the there's exceptions to this but but the way that the the common experiences that we shared were more common i feel like if you were a gamer growing up in the late 90s early 2000s there if grand scheme of things were there that many really good games for the nintendo 64 goldeneye sure donkey kong mario kart mario kart was amazing mario party smash bros sure smash and like we're gonna probably be able to come up with 10 or 20. And like, we're going to probably be able to come up with 10 or 20. But nowadays, if I were to say, okay, yeah, like how many good games are there for Steam Deck? Star Fox.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Are any, are any two? Super Mario 64. That's not the point. The point is that we're talking about on the order of tens. Whereas now we're talking about a game library smorgasbord on the order of thousands to the point where you and I could both be gamers, play nothing but like S tier awesome games and have absolutely nothing to talk about to each other. Do you get what I mean? what i mean yeah part of that is the historical library of games because i like as much as i'm i'm pumping up balder's gate and we had elden ring come out which was just like incredible and there's a lot of high hopes for starfield and the new god of war games have been fantastic and they're like there's there is actually good stuff going on right now um i i feel like the frequency
Starting point is 02:08:40 of good game releases has maybe decreased in recent years. There are still bangers coming out. You're talking AAA only right now. Yeah, there's some big time indies, but I feel like the indies have slowed down a little bit too. If I could possibly argue. In the like Super Meat Boy era, it was all the time.
Starting point is 02:09:00 Indies were like the best thing to play. But was that just Humble Bundle pumping it? I don't think so. Gen just humble bundle pumping it i don't think so genuinely okay so they don't just just have less marketing now because like i mean i don't know dave the diver diver was a breakout hit fantastic i'm not saying they don't change that i'm not saying they don't exist i feel like maybe it was humble bundle i don't know yeah people in chat are piping up. There was like a golden age of indies.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Technically Baldur's Gate 3 is an indie. They have no publisher. Okay. Okay. Actually, what you're referring to is... I mean, that's really cool and shows a lot of... a huge amount of success for Larian. There was a ton of stuff going around
Starting point is 02:09:43 of people being like no one should be able to expect the quality level of baldur's gate 3 because they obviously had a huge amount of funding from like the the d d owners which i think is like wizards of the coast or something i don't know hasbro basically has yeah something and like the larian studio people were like what that's not how this works like they didn't pay us to make this like what do you mean um yeah i don't know i think it's very cool that they've been able to find that much success um basically on their own i think that's awesome last one i've got for you curated here. Hey, DLL, I love that you're back and the D bread.
Starting point is 02:10:28 When will the, I don't know, when will the stubby screwdriver come to the LTT store? I really, really want it in every color I can get it. Maybe twice. It was supposed to launch this week, last week. Something around there. I forget, something like that. I don't know the exact date, but we have stock.
Starting point is 02:10:48 Like, we're ready to press go. I think we are probably going to launch it next week would be my guess. Yes. Yes, that would be my guess. Okay, we do have a few more potentials to go through, Luke. Oh, man. Chris P. Um, Oh man. Chris P asks, uh, I love the multiple videos about smartifying Linus's home. I'm going through similar projects now. What are your favorite upgrades? Um, you can probably least, uh, list his least favorite. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be
Starting point is 02:11:19 a way easier list. Uh, I think the ones that provide joy to my family are the only ones that i care about because realistically i don't really use any of it my daughters really like their rgb reading lamps that's cool yeah and they're not really reading lamps we did strips around the outside of their bunk bed so it kind of shines off the wall so they can so they can read and they they help me pick you know what color they want and so they're they're super into that i think that's kind of it oh you know what no no i i really like having easy uh garage door access on my phone that's super handy yeah i don't even carry a key to my house like why would i yeah yeah it's just a key to lose like i i i i hate having a bulky key if your phone's dead thing well i don't know be responsible scrub wow yeah i tried your phone what's wrong with you what if
Starting point is 02:12:16 you drop it in the pool you knew that was coming you know i couldn't resist i I'm so sorry. Stab, stab, but don't twist. I feel bad now. You don't feel bad. Look at you. Look at you. Remorseless. Oh, man. First time catching the show live as I'm currently in Japan,
Starting point is 02:12:46 where everything is very different from Europe. In the many trips you had around the world. What was the biggest culture shock? Ooh. Biggest culture shock. I mean, everywhere is so unique. Yeah. And like,
Starting point is 02:13:01 I don't know if I would describe it as a shock, but I, I, I, I was blown away by just how universally friendly people in taiwan are oh yeah like that i know people say sure people will everybody says oh yeah you know go here the people are so nice but i hear people say that about vancouver and i'm just like no dog i i i actually like live in vancouver and people in vancouver are not
Starting point is 02:13:27 friendly and like not that helpful and stuff like you'll find ones that are but in general i think we're we're pretty reclusive sort of keep to ourselves i like feel like i'm more like uh you know on the same team as the people around me in taiwan than here yeah like in taiwan though like everyone is like actually super friendly. You're all in this together. And you talk to Taiwanese people and they're like, yeah, everyone's like friendly to each other too. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's that. Yeah. That's like super cool. That's awesome. Yeah. My badminton coach is from there. So, um, I, whenever I'm like going back there, we just kind of like chat about it and stuff. Um, Australian here, the shipping
Starting point is 02:14:03 is going to hurt. Hey, thanks thanks connor um but want to help support y'all much love for d brand and all their chaotic energy uh is there any other sponsors that have been good or weird to work i don't think anyone is weird like d brand nobody really gets the whole influencer because they don't just do influencer marketing i think a lot of brands do influencer marketing but dbrand um they build relationships with influencers that they see having long-term staying power in their content so it's it's kind of a funny thing like on the one hand if you see a spot for uh for a brand on a channel um you might have like a positive association for that brand based on liking the channel i would say dbrand works the other way as well where if you see a dbrand spot somewhere it's probably because the folks at dbrand actually like think this is
Starting point is 02:15:00 like good and uh they want their they want their product associated with it it's not just um it's not just like scattershot so mad respect to them they've they've put a lot of thought and they've put a lot of work into their strategy it's not it's not just chaotic um i think they uh they they play the character really well but uh make no mistake they're super super smart if you had to choose between all forms of wireless internet or all forms of rechargeable batteries which one would you choose and why so i have to pick between wireless internet and rechargeable batteries what is the point of wireless internet if i don't have rechargeable batteries oh man i'm gonna have rechargeable batteries? Oh, man. I'm going to take rechargeable batteries.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Luke. Really? So you'd have no internet on your phone. Yeah, but then I could at least play, like, Switch games. And drive your car. Yeah. Whereas if I have... Or have a phone?
Starting point is 02:16:02 Well, wireless internet. You could still have, like, calls and texts. So, no, no, I picked rechargeable batteries. No, no, no, I'm saying, like, yeah, you wouldn't have internet on your phone, but, like, what would your phone be like with no rechargeable batteries? It would make phone calls. But what would your... Your cell phone, no rechargeable batteries.
Starting point is 02:16:23 No, no, I pick rechargeable batteries. No, I know, I'm talking about the alternative we're too tired oh oh oh okay what well the alternative i tried to i tried to snap back and it went like you wouldn't have internet on your phone and then i realized hold on a second you might not have a phone i oh i'd have because i don't think it would be super reasonable to have completely disposable batteries for your phone oh yeah no no wireless or wait so hold on a second yeah okay no rechargeable batteries is not a viable option we're in agreement okay see i thought you people said it okay that's funny
Starting point is 02:17:11 all right i'm just going to text reply this one oh i think we both just replied to the european warehouse one hopefully someday okay um okay hold on sorry one sec there's some people in in full plane chat talking about the the re-release of the Atari 2600+. I thought it's just a prop. Isn't it just like a piece of furniture? It works. Is this just like an FPGA? Probably.
Starting point is 02:17:39 That's what I... It might even not be that. It might just be an emulator. It doesn't use an... It uses uses an arm CPU so probably yes okay it comes with a cartridge does it does it play the old cartridges I don't know man does are people asking for this is it hard to find an Atari 2600 emulator and play the games if
Starting point is 02:18:07 you really want to some some people definitely want the hardware that's fair that's fair it looks really cool so i i oh looks like i've got another curated here uh dloss has been a net positive for gaming in general, in my honest opinion, but I have seen a couple videos recently suggesting it's becoming a requirement for games to be playable. Thoughts on DLSS being a necessity? So just before you even say, before you respond to that, apparently it does play Atari 2600 and 7800 game cartridges. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:18:43 That's pretty cool. Yeah. DLSss being a necessity yeah they're just so unoptimized or graphics require so much stuff yeah yeah there's a lot of games coming out right now that are basically just like yeah if you don't have an rtx 4090 good luck running this at you know 4k 60 um so if you have anything other than that you're basically relying on dlss to get playable frame rates 1440p like smooth frame rates yeah um it's inevitable i mean look at how much the pace of gpu development like gpu raw performance improvement has declined from like a, like a year over year standpoint. I mean, it used to be, we would get new generations of GPUs once a year. Now we're lucky to get a new generation of GPUs every two years, three years. Um, and honestly, like looking at how much money NVIDIA is making on AI crap right now,
Starting point is 02:19:54 like billions and billions and billions, they, we may be moving into the end game of NVIDIA caring at all about consumer graphics. I don't know what to say, man. Cause yes, it's still a significant portion of their revenue, but it is so much less profitable and it is so much more work and everyone kind of hates them for it. If I'm sitting there, I'm, I'm Jensen right now.
Starting point is 02:20:11 I'm wearing a leather jacket. I'm sitting here in my beautiful kitchen going. Why am I even, why am I even bothering? I can make way less money and have everyone be mad at me or i can make way more money and everything's cool yeah unfortunate situation i i commented before about how like we just keep cycling into like exactly what would be the most beneficial for nvidia i feel like
Starting point is 02:20:45 that's like if you want to figure out like just investments in general just figure out like what would be the most beneficial for nvidia to happen next in the world and just like plan i know right because like cryptocurrency blowing up and then you see cryptocurrency going down and we're all like yeah and then they're just like the next best best thing. Now it's hyper-corporate. I mean, it's not. Let's go. It's clearly not an accident at this point. You got to give them credit.
Starting point is 02:21:12 They have played the game extremely well. Yeah. They were out there investing in machine vision and machine learning and general purpose computing on the GPU. There was a clear vision. Last merch message would you do a video about floatplane tech i work in a similar space and especially hdr can be super tricky to get right i think the challenge is that it would be hard to fit floatplanes
Starting point is 02:21:40 like a tech overview of floatplane into a video like if we if we do anything for floatplane tech it will probably be uh like a transcoding server we've talked about that before yeah okay that would mostly just be like like an on-site like trans transcoding like this is a really cool server because it's really powerful and this is what we're going to use it for and we'd have to actually do that and not steal it from you guys this time yeah that'd be cool yeah we tried to do that before and live while one of my uh team members was working on it it was powered down so someone could take parts out of it we were like hmm let's not do this anyways all right yeah cool i'm happy to get out of here just I know this is a short show but it's
Starting point is 02:22:27 it's 1230 thanks for tuning in though guys yeah we will see you next week same bad time hopefully a different hopefully earlier same bad channel yeah bye appreciate y'all
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