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Episode Date: February 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:14 See app for details. What is up, everyone? Welcome to The WAN Show. We've got a great show lined up for you guys today well we're gonna make it great we've got a few topics uh first of all begun the chatbot wars have um yeah oh this is hilarious okay so from the WAN show writer I have logged into bing on your computers feel free to access it and ask a few discussion questions slash make a few searches. And what's great is that if it's good,
Starting point is 00:00:49 I win $1,000 from Popular Streamer XQC. If it's good. Yeah, whose collab I will be talking about a little bit on the show. That's one of our topics for today. What else we got today? Okay. Yeah, that's right. I took the only interesting one.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Samsung says, shut up about our garbage-filled phones. Don't talk about it. Okay? And we have one because we're going to look into it. Also, LDT merch spotted in the wild. That topic is actually hilarious. I don't want to spoil it, though. Should I spoil it a little bit?
Starting point is 00:01:24 You should spoil it, though. Should I spoil it a little bit? You should spoil it, yeah. So apparently, someone went home with somebody in order to do the business. And that person that they went home with happened to be wearing Linus Tech Tips underwear. And they posted on, I don't know what this is. Reddit? Is it Reddit? I'm not sure. I don't know. You know what? We'll get Reddit? I'm not sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:45 You know what? We'll get into it more later. Facebook or something? And they said help. For now. For now. Here's the thing. I want you guys thinking about it, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:53 You take someone home. What would you do? They're wearing LTT underwear. What would you do? Yeah. i want to make a slight edit to that question because i think asking our audience what they would do if they went home with someone that happened no that's what i want to know okay that's what i want to know i just want nothing but positivity it's been a long week luke fair enough let me tell you something screw it i'm not gonna put in my question i had three days this week where i
Starting point is 00:02:38 didn't go to work but they were the hardest that i've worked in the last six months because I took three kids to Disneyland and fixed XQC's computer on a three-day total round-trip turnaround, okay? It was very challenging. Many steps were walked, okay? And the computer was fixed. Why don't we jump right into our first topic? What the devil is the headline topic? I forget what the title of the
Starting point is 00:03:06 stream is even. Sponsor. Sponsor. Sponsor. Sponsor? Sponsor bailed. Our sponsor bailed? Yeah, isn't that the headline? Our sponsor bailed? Oh, that's right! One of our biggest sponsors for the last two years bailed on their
Starting point is 00:03:24 biggest project. It was his idea for the last two years bailed on their biggest project it was his idea for the title i forgot i forgot between telling you that and us talking now you didn't film like two videos other videos i'm sorry i'm trying okay fair enough fair enough okay intel extreme tech upgrade is over it's done finito yeah complete yeah Yeah. Kaput. Yeah. Dunzo. Yep. You're never getting one. Never. I mean, I don't think you were eligible anyway as like top management, but like.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Well, Ed got one. Ed got one. Yeah. How the hell did Ed get one? Yeah. So I think I technically was. Well, that's not fair then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So maybe you're ineligible because you work for a different company. I don't know. I'll find some way to make it. You get computers anyway. You don't need one. I actually don't care. It's fine. Forget it.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Forget it. The point is Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade is over. We did 24 episodes, which hilariously at the time that we booked Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade two years ago, I was like, yeah, we're totally going to make our way through like everyone in the company. But the rate at which our employee count has grown been hiring more people than you've been outpaced how fast we can make these videos there are a ton of work right because you got to do all the procurement everyone's kind of this is their chance to like
Starting point is 00:04:37 talk to you guys right so everyone's looking for not a gimmick something that expresses who they are but a unique element right Yeah. And so in the early ones, it was pretty simple. I'm going to be a game streamer. Gaming. Right? And now it's gotten a little bit more complicated. You've got to mix it up. You've got to make it a little bit more interesting. Exactly, right? But now it's done. It's done.
Starting point is 00:04:59 What is this? Guess how many views? Oh, we did 24 episodes of them. Guess how many views across all episodes you can't look before reading this guess then scroll to the readout super chats end of show section colton now i know intel extreme tech upgrade was a massive performer for us it was honestly probably the best idea that i have ever had in the entire history of this company. I think outside of potentially scrapyard wars, I think I've seen people call it out as an individual piece of
Starting point is 00:05:31 content that we do more than anything. It's what I call a win, win, win, win. Yeah. Absolutely everybody wins. Yeah. The sponsor wins because particularly at the time they booked it, Intel didn't have a lot good to talk about. There't a lot of positive sentiment and with my like calling out the name of that the reason why i brought that up is actually because they would always say intel extreme rig update they wouldn't just say like rig update or extreme rig update intel was at the beginning of the call out every every single time. Do you know when I named the series? When I was standing on the stairs to Anthony's place for the first episode, it had a completely different name. And I was like, no, it's stupid.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Just brand it. We're going to call it Extreme Tech Upgrade because it's like XTU, which is their overclocking software. And I was like, he, he, he, that'll be funny. Okay, let's go with that. And if they don't like it, then we'll dub something over. There's always got to be, Linus is always, his little acronyms, they always mean something. There's always something there.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Fast as possible doesn't mean anything. No, right. Over on Techquickie. Forgot about that one. Yeah, that doesn't mean anything. No. Anywho, so we came up with Extreme Tech Upgrade, and it's a win, win, win, win. Okay, so the, who was it first?
Starting point is 00:06:47 So the sponsor wins because it's just all good vibes. There's nothing but good vibes. It's your tech in good vibes. How can you go wrong? Yeah. Okay? We win because we get sponsored. It's sponsored content, which you guys probably understand pays way better than normal
Starting point is 00:07:06 content oh yeah right but then here's the thing if you can find sponsored content that the audience loves the audience wins because they get a chance in content that otherwise wouldn't exist right to get to know all the different members of the team and see all these different approaches i mean it has been just wild how many messages I get with people talking about how inspiring Extreme Tech Upgrade was for people's setups, right? It's so cool. That makes sense. And I learned this kind of by accident, but the amount you learn about someone from how
Starting point is 00:07:40 they would spend $5,000 is unbelievable. Like, okay, seriously, I would strongly recommend this. If you happen to just be like a casual, high net worth individual, okay, first date, just give them $5,000 to spend and watch them. Okay? I bet you'll know if you want to spend the rest of your life with them. There you go. No comment on that. No comment on that.
Starting point is 00:08:06 No comment on that at all. Yeah, that wouldn't be weird, right? Wow. And then the fourth win. You're really setting yourself up for some really interesting expectations. First of all, if you can afford that at all, but you're also communicating
Starting point is 00:08:18 that you can easily afford this. So I hope you're like... And the fourth win is the staff. It's like sponsored content that also turns into people having sick setups at home yeah Linus found a way to flex some flex some Mr. Beastie stuff but he doesn't have to pay for it it's it's the best it's the best deal I have ever negotiated ever they're also genuinely really fun to watch. Yeah, well, that's what I said. That's the win for the audience.
Starting point is 00:08:47 They're great. I watched Jake's entire video. I've watched Dennis's twice. Yeah. It's just hilarious. I think I've seen most of them at this point. And pretty much every single one that I have clicked on, I've watched the whole way through.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Because it's actually consistently pretty interesting. Because you'll find whatever. You'll roast them for taking whatever from the office which is that's another thing what they steal from the office is almost like that tells you a lot about people yeah the whole thing is just like i don't know do they go for stuff they think i won't notice do they just go for the obvious stuff do they just go straight for the high value i don't know how long has it been there how long have they had it yeah exactly yeah i don't know but guess what linus media group incorporated happens to be a production juggernaut and as such we were not going to simply allow a great thing like Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade to die simply because Intel,
Starting point is 00:09:47 I mean, you know what? The reality of it is we love working with Intel. We've been working with them as long as we've existed almost. Do you remember the first time we worked with Intel? It was like three months in. Yeah. Was it one of those like commercial things that we did? Yep. It was like promoting like a snowboard promo that they were doing with like 4770k or something like that or 6700k or it must have been 47 i don't know it was a long time ago definitely not 67 yeah it must have been 4770k you got like a free snowboard or something might have even been ivy bridge holy crap might have been 3000 anyway the point is that we did like these little in video like pre-roll things um massive shout out to to mike you know who you are who got that whole thing kickstarted We did like these little in video, like pre-roll things.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Massive shout out to Mike, you know who you are, who got that whole thing, Kickstarter on Intel side, because they had zero awareness at that time. Like influencer, YouTube, what? Like nothing. They would go and they would blow six, seven figures on all kinds of wild stuff that, as far as I could tell, had essentially zero impact. And then, you know when
Starting point is 00:10:45 I wanted like 500 bucks they'd be like sorry who are you I'm like I don't know only like one of the biggest tech youtubers which I guess doesn't matter right now but could someday someday I believed Luke actually I didn't really believe much at that point I was just trying we believed a little bit we wanted a little bit we wanted to a little bit of belief. We wanted to believe it. There was hope. That was pretty much all we had to go on. Yeah. Anyway, so we've been working with Intel almost as long as we've existed. And, you know, like any relationship that lasts for 10 years, things ebb and they flow.
Starting point is 00:11:18 You know how things go. And we're still going to be working with them. But, you know, whether it was changing priorities over there, whether they dropped the ball, whether we didn't drop the ball we followed up we gave them time but whatever happened over there they couldn't make it happen and if you had to guess if you had to guess what company would find it pretty hilarious to kick intel while they're down and scoop Extreme Tech Upgrade out from under them, who would it be? Arm. Kidding. Other three letters.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You've got one letter right. Actually, you've got two letters right. Yeah. AMD. Let's go. I think, yeah, the whole chat already guessed. AMD is coming. It's not going to be called the same thing
Starting point is 00:12:04 because that wouldn't be as as funny um but streams like part of their branding and like yeah yeah yeah so it's going to be called AMD ultimate tech upgrade ought to I have nothing to do with the naming this time I take no responsibility for that the first episode will be with Adam oh really okay the first episode is going to be with Adam from the writing team and then my understanding is that there's going to be a very special second episode that is going to have none other than Yvonne as the subject now because she is my wife um how are you gonna tell me I can't get one? I'm not privy. And Yvonne gets one. So I can explain this.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I can explain this. This was a business decision. This was a strategic decision made not by me. This was actually made by the business team because they really want to put a strong foot forward with these first couple and then lock down a longer-term deal here because, full disclosure, guys,
Starting point is 00:13:07 when you renegotiate um a content deal you never do it at the old price so it's not cheaper i can tell you guys that much look okay i got a lab to build i got a lab to build okay and i think I think that... Oh, people are asking, is it the same budget? I actually don't know the details. Someone suggested a budget of $6,900. That's pretty good. Okay, done. $6,900 Canadian.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Brilliant. $6,900 Canadian. Done. Yeah. I think I'm actually getting a discount. Was it USD before? Yeah. Oh, wow. $5,000 USD. Brutal. done yeah i think i'm actually getting a discount was it usd before yeah oh wow five thousand yeah so it's gonna be awesome i'm really looking forward to it i have no idea what's coming which
Starting point is 00:13:56 is half the fun for me in the early ones i was actually quite involved i mean not people like anthony like i he didn't need me to help him. But a lot of the early ones, I was quite involved ahead of time in part selection and stuff like that. And then over time, procurement started to help. The rest of the writing team started to do a lot more of it. I think I was only really involved in the first couple. And now, I kind of just walk in. I'm like, what's going on here?
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, what's shake-a-lakin'? Let's zap-strap some speakers to this random stand I found for you. Okay, that worked. That worked. I wasn't actually flaming it. You need to be there, by the way, when we finally do the episode reacting to Linus's old setups. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Have I shown you any of them? Like, have you ever? I've seen a bunch of them. Have you? Well, no. I mean, from before you knew me. I've shown you any of them? Like, have you ever? Well, I've seen a bunch of them. Have you? Yeah. Well, no. I mean, from before you knew me. I've known you for like 12 years.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, but I did most of my janky stuff before you met me. Okay, but I've seen the, I'm trying to go from memory, the green water cooling one that had the purple coil around it. Okay, yeah. I've seen that one. I've seen the chiller. Okay. I definitely haven't seen all of them, but I've seen some of them, is what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You've shown me some pictures. I've done some weird stuff. I'm trying to find something now. Did you know that at one point in time, I had transferred my components over to a new case, and the power button on the case didn't work. So my motherboard at the time had a power button on the motherboard, My motherboard at the time had a power button on the motherboard. So I rigged up an elastic band and pencil setup so that the side panel of the case,
Starting point is 00:15:35 I got a hole in it and I had the pencil mounted in the hole and the elastic bands would hold it in place. And you just press the eraser on the pencil and the pencil would go through and press the power button on the motherboard. And that would be how you turn the computer on. It was sick. motherboard and that would be how you turn the computer on? It was sick. Okay. I will see your eraser rubber band and raise you one surround speaker stand.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's amazing. Yes, that is a wheel. Is that a brush wheel? That is a wheel at the bottom. Oh, that's just a wheel wheel. It's a wheel. Beautiful. Yeah, the base is a wheel. That was the inspiration for Jake's surround speaker mount. Was my setup from when I was about 15. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So we're gonna, I'm gonna dig through all my old pictures. I'm gonna like pull out all the weird janky stuff that I've done over the years. And we're gonna do like a, like a, I mean, obviously I can't react to it. This all seems
Starting point is 00:16:25 perfectly reasonable to me but i feel like you guys are probably gonna have some well we'll see i do feel like i should be involved with that but i feel like i'm gonna agree with your decisions more because you remember like i mounted a a water pump on a cut off piece of the old mud flap of my old car like Like, do you remember that? Like, right now, there's a graphics card laying flat on top of my computer with a PCI riser cable coming out of the main component, or main area of my computer, going out all the way up, connecting into the graphics card with a second power supply, not in the computer, on the outside of the computer, running power cables up the back of the computer into the graphics card so that everything works because otherwise it wouldn't have fit.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I enjoy the jank. Okay, that's fair. I did not adopt the jank. I was born in the jank. That's another really funny one to me. The amount of flack that I take, people accusing me of being a fan of this or a fan of that, particularly accusing me of being extremely anti-AMD, like I hate AMD for some reason.
Starting point is 00:17:35 We both started with AMD systems. This was my desktop wallpaper for, I kid you not, years. I literally repped AMD on my desktop desktop wallpaper this is super sick wallpaper i forget where i got it but apparently i i still have it somewhere um for for actual years so when i say amd's product is bad it's just because it's bad it's it's not fortunately they're not bad these days so amd ultimate tech upgrade is going to be a ton of fun uh we're going to build some some sick gaming rigs and uh i mean maybe maybe some other things so there it is guys oh right my computer's all red right now it's all amd yeah mine too yep
Starting point is 00:18:20 actually yeah i mean i've been threadripper for a while, but you were Intel before. I was. Yep. Not now. I mean, for what I'm assuming is like a year and a half now. Yeah. I've been AMD processor. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's been great. It's been great. Yep. I mean, I do have some problems with like sleep states, but like realistically that can happen on Team Blue as well. Yeah. So I'm not going to make too much fuss about that uh but because i had to uh because i had to clear my cmos for just like as a troubleshooting step for the amd um 30 day challenge i a bunged up my my nvme raid settings so that was really scary and b i i ended up um losing that setting that i had had to change
Starting point is 00:19:09 to make it so that my system doesn't just randomly crash all the time so there's like uh there's an s3 sleep bug or something like that i have to disable all power saving states otherwise my computer not when it's working when it's idle will just crash just like randomly crashed hard lock full lock it's very annoying it's a thread ripper. Just like randomly crash, hard lock, full lock. It's very annoying. It's a Threadripper bug. And AMD has completely abandoned Enthusiast Threadripper, even though they said they definitely, definitely wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Goes to show you. I have no problem calling out sponsors, even new ones who've just signed a big deal with us. Okay, so try to guess. Intel Extreme Tech Up upgrade is over 24 episodes total views yeah so man i have not paid attention to views on these so i'm coming in extremely uneducated but i'm gonna throw my guess this i feel like this might be high i'm gonna throw my guess at 50 though because i feel like some performed like really really well dennis's has like six million or something like that.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, some of them just smashed it out of the park, but I have to assume some of the other ones didn't do as well. I'm going to say 70. Damn. Because almost across the board, they have at least 2 million views. Oh, they're just killing it. So that's 48. Yeah, I haven't even looked.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And then there's a handful. I think Riley's has 4 or 5 million. Anthony's has at least 3. Riley's was good. Riley's was great. Riley's was great. Anthony's was good. So many of these were so good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I'm just remembering them because it's been a long time. It's been two years. Yeah. So like, I can't remember them all off the top of my head. Literally, I think the biggest W that I have ever W'd. And this is one that I know for sure was actually my idea. I was genuinely stunned to the point where I thought I was being trolled
Starting point is 00:20:49 when I was first informed that they were, that we were like, they were not renewing. And yeah, I don't know. Oh, wow. I haven't looked at views for these in a while. I think we're both going to be way short sarah's is 4.7 million dennis's is at nine david's is at six eyes is great um i actually don't think i've watched one that i didn't think was just fantastic so like
Starting point is 00:21:19 yeah ploofs is 2.4 alex's is 5.7. Brandon's at three. Chase's did 4.2. It's a great thumbnail, though. This is a fantastic thumbnail. Look at his computer. Freaking guy. Love it. Andy, I broke his bed. I mean, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's why reality TV works, right? Stuff happens. You can't write. Life happens, man. Yeah, you can't write wilder stuff than just what happens when you try and complete a project together and especially when people have me do really weird stuff like paint their basement right but that happened in andes yeah um are we off by like i'm gonna check by a lot i think we're off by like 88 million so i was off by like 20 yeah yeah. Yeah. I mean, you were off by more.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So I guess I can give myself a little pat on the back for that. But like, realistically, I look at analytics infinity percent more than you do these days. So the fact that I wasn't closer than you were means I might not be doing the greatest job at that. But yeah, they've clearly been killing it. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited to do more. The good news is that
Starting point is 00:22:27 if the first couple perform well, and hopefully AMD's not watching this to know that we kind of stack the deck a little bit, because they will, then we should be signing a long-term deal and we should be able to keep these things rolling because there's so many people
Starting point is 00:22:39 that you guys, A, haven't gotten to know very well, or B, haven't even met yet. There's people who work here that I haven't met yet. That's a weird feeling, right? It's super weird. I have no idea how to deal with it. There's people who work here whose only interaction with me on a weekly basis
Starting point is 00:22:59 is to watch the WAN show. So I was actually just going to bring this up. I've been work from home for a long time. So this has been happening to me for a while. Right. And I'll walk into the office and walk past groups of people that I've just like never seen before. And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:23:19 There was a stretch there after the summer where I think every Monday morning meeting we were announcing a new hire. New person. Like new people. And you aren't even in those meetings. No. We're going to have to have name tags. Like seriously, we're going to need uniforms.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Everyone wears the track suit. Okay, I'm on board now. And name tags. Dan's giving us the thumbs up. Heck yeah, we're all going to wear the track suit. Okay, you guys have got to be wondering about this. Normally, we wait a little bit deeper in the show to kind of talk about what's going on
Starting point is 00:23:50 on LTT Store, but I can't contain it. Yes, we did it. We made a tracksuit. Why did we make a tracksuit? For the only reason anyone makes a tracksuit, because we can. I have no idea how many tracksuits we're gonna sell
Starting point is 00:24:06 this was not this was not one of those projects that's like well we can calculate the total bill of materials cost and the minimum order quantity and profit margins and i think we could figure out if we could make no no none of that happened we were like oh my god we should do a track suit and then we did okay it's poly cotton blend uh we've got here hold on a second i gotta i gotta model it for you guys okay we've got the ltt logo on the thigh okay we've got the nice nice deep pockets zipper pockets okay you don't want your stuff falling pockets are aipper pockets are a win. Gotta love the zipper pockets. YKK as always. Beautiful. Two more zipper pockets on the back.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Zippers right there. Got the accents. Got the accents on the back. Got the zipper pockets. Zipper pockets on the sides here. YKK zipper. Got the quality. Got the quality.
Starting point is 00:25:06 You've got your chest pocket too., yeah, I forgot about the chest pocket and the chest pocket has a sub pocket That's for like air pods or wireless headphones or whatever else so you got them right there That's actually kind of neat also fits a condom not that I'm saying this tracksuit will get you laid You will need one if you buy this. Not that I'm saying that. No, we can't say that. We can't say that. But they know. They know. Yeah, we were just... Honestly, that is really what happened. We were like,
Starting point is 00:25:36 we should do a tracksuit. And then we did. They were almost tearaways. Like, for how off the hook this merch meeting was, okay? I think it's probably good they weren't tearaways. Completely unhinged. Did you ever have a pair of tearaways? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Who didn't? I was a 90s kid. Did you actually, like, think they were good? No. No one thought they were good. Yeah, okay. They were just cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You just had to have them. Yeah. Yeah. No one thought they were good yeah okay they were just cool yeah you just had to have them yeah yeah yeah no no no one thought they were practical they were stupid they took forever to put back together oh yeah yeah it was ridiculous it's just no no everybody everybody knew everybody knew yeah okay yeah yeah but but like they're sick they're terror ways it's true so every once in a while party trick boom pants off it's great. Can you track that's it don't have the Alaska. I like the elastic on the ankles. Oh For these types of pants. Yeah, I think when we do our joggers and stuff you guys are gonna See they're gonna have they're gonna have elastics down the bottom Those types of pants. I think it makes sense. I don't like it generally either but like yeah for like
Starting point is 00:26:45 running wear and stuff i think you want them because if you don't they just fly all over the place too much by the way probably the best thing to come out of the track suit is the photos just the photos in general for the track suit yeah these are actually amazing these are amazing so uh massive shout out to tanner from the writing team for being the one who brought in most of our props to kind of complete the ensemble here. But man, we had a lot of fun. That's got some, what year was that even? Like 2010 Duke Nukem energy? I don't know, man, but these are amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Oh my God. Oh my God. Colton Money Potter right here. Oh man. Awesome. This is great. Yeah, again, shout out Tanner. Tanner absolutely deserves a lot of the credit for this.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Okay, got the elastics. Yeah. Anyway, so you guys can get yours at lttstore.com. I'm going to be completely transparent with y'all. We did not order a ton of these. I think we went pretty much minimum order quantity because we're going into this going. Not expecting.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm always down to be surprised right but who knows we could move a thousand today we could move zero today yeah actually i'm gonna i'm gonna re-up a question from from jonathan here what do you do you know i should have asked nick about this earlier we had a meeting earlier this week Do you know what the status on the tall shirts is? Because you know, that one random show where I had to,
Starting point is 00:28:31 I had to, Oh right. No, it was when I couldn't talk the Jane silent Bob show. And I had to be given a random shirt because the colors clashed really badly. I was given a shirt that wasn't one of ours. Yeah. I don't,
Starting point is 00:28:43 it's a, it's a few different companies on the front. I don't know what it was for. Sorry, I don't remember. But whatever. But it was in tall format. And I'm not making any comments with the quality or anything like that, but the fitment of the length,
Starting point is 00:28:59 that's the best fitting shirt I have ever had in my life, not even remotely close. And I had, there's this thing and people comment on it all the time where I constantly do this because I'm constantly pulling my shirts down because I'm like, I'm not crazy tall, but I'm fairly tall, but all of my height is in my torso. So shirts just,
Starting point is 00:29:19 they've never fit me properly though. The, the bottom of the shirt is like on my waistline. Lanky boy's coming. Husky boy's coming. Very excited about this. I know that they've taken longer than we wanted them to. I didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I knew we were planning on making a tall shirt. I didn't know it was like a thing. Oh, yeah. Until I wore that shirt. Oh, totally. I was like, oh. Oh, 100%. I thought I had just been wearing like.
Starting point is 00:29:46 wore that shirt i was like oh oh 100 i thought i had just been wearing like and our our intention unlike a lot of you know custom fits or whatever is that our our lanky and our um it's either going to be chonky or thick boy or something like that whatever we end up calling the fits i like thick boy but it might be dated they're gonna yeah yeah it could be uh but whatever we end up calling them the pricing will be exactly the same as our normal ones. We want to make sure that pricing is just as inclusive as the fits that we offer. It's just taken a lot longer than we'd like. We've had so many projects on the go.
Starting point is 00:30:17 You guys are only seeing the tip of the iceberg for what's coming in the next three to six months. But my understanding is that that is absolutely a top priority for Bridget in the next little while here awesome very cool i just it made me excited because i knew we were planning on releasing those and that's the first time i'd ever worn a shirt that was made for for i don't know taller torsoed people i don't know and i was just like wow i don't have to pull it down every minute this is amazing yeah i know i don't know it's absolutely something that we're aware of um it basically showed up on my radar when we did that um that long sleeve circuit board design shirt that i almost killed because i was
Starting point is 00:30:57 like these sleeves are ridiculously long and we sold it saying hey look the sleeves are super long and basically every lanky boy in our audience bought it and was like, this is the best shirt I've ever owned. And I was like, oh. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, we can do that. It's taken way longer than I would have liked. Stuff's hard.
Starting point is 00:31:18 If you want to do things properly, it's really tough. I totally get it. It's more like, it's not tough yeah i totally get it i just i just it's more like it's not like where are they it's more like oh i'm my my excitement is redoubled basically yeah and it's especially exciting based on just like how well received um our blanks are like the reviews are all like this it's like this is great this is great this is great this is great um yeah the blank shirts are are doing really well i just uh oh uh exciting announcement um our t-shirt printer has apparently found a small space to
Starting point is 00:31:51 start to set up in so hopefully we'll start to get some shirts printed which would be really great good um i wasn't given any kind of update at any point so i guess this has been in in progress for a while and i'm i'm really excited to start spending some money with our t-shirt printer again let's go i got the money i got the money right here i got the shirts right here you take money in shirts you send me back shirts with pretty things on them and then it's gonna be good everyone's gonna win that's what i like i like i like multi wins yeah everyone wins yeah yeah lots of wins nobody needs nobody needs to lose you know yeah why does it have to be like that we're all gonna make it
Starting point is 00:32:31 bros yeah right you know why why does it have to be like that all right anybody get that reference maybe i don't know no i didn't get it it's fine okay sorry uh what do you want to talk about next i knew you wouldn't i was asking the audience to be fair um ouch okay well it's a bit of a bit of a niche reference sick burn um wow okay this might surprise you but the track jacket and the track joggers are selling at a near one-to-one ratio. That doesn't surprise me. I know. Oh. I was actually surprised when they were separate items on the store.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Well, it's sizing. This makes sense. If people have a tall torso and short legs or vice versa. I literally just made the comment. Yeah, it makes sense. All right. This may never have occurred to you, Luke, but not everybody has exactly the same proportions. Got them.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Okay. Yeah. Chatbot Wars? Sure. Yeah, let's talk about it. There's a chatbot thing that I'm going to go against, but we can talk about that later. Let's talk about the general Chatbot Wars.
Starting point is 00:33:50 This I have not been as in on because apparently i'm not a cool kid and have not been invited to bing search but i guess the company has so we'll be able to mess with it on the show which is cool 100 but there's been a lot going on uh i we we talked about chat gpt and its various antics uh quite a bit there. And then we kind of let it die down for a little bit. And now it's back. Things are boiling. Microsoft has released a demo of its new ChatGPT 3.5 Plus, is what I'm going to call it, enabled version of Bing search, as well as a wait list to receive access to the full version.
Starting point is 00:34:26 The wait list is hilarious, but I think we're going to get into that in a moment. Part of the demo showed a typical page of search results, but with AI context notes on one side. Can you do a search with the context notes? Oh, okay. While another mode allows the user to talk to the Bing chatbot directly. What I find kind of interesting about this, and maybe we'll show this in a moment, but the AI context notes on the side, if you didn't know they were there,
Starting point is 00:34:55 in my opinion, are not very noticeable. So is this chat or is this search? I don't know. Okay, just give it a shot. Just ask me anything. Okay, why is Hogwarts Legacy so controversial? Well, what, what, what, what, what? You guys don't want to be canceled?
Starting point is 00:35:19 You don't want to be canceled? Well, what? I just. What? I just... What? I just... I thought this was America. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I thought this was America. Okay. All right. Let's jump back. Jump back. Jump back. Jump back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So, yeah, this is not a view that I have actually personally seen. So this is probably because this account is in. And mine at home is not in. I have not received an invite. Okay, so Hogwarts Legacy is so controversial because it is the first time many people have been asked to prove they support trans people and they have been found wanting.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Okay, to be clear, I think that the syntax here is a little confusing. That's a web result I'm pretty sure the first time many people so it's not the first time anyone has been asked to prove it but it's the first time for many people I guess is one way of I think that's just yeah this is okay chat chat chat chat chat okay go back don't go to chat. Okay. Can you full screen it or something? Something's wrong here.
Starting point is 00:36:27 What's a Seymour thing? Seymour? Seymour butts? Seymour butts. It's gone now. Welcome to new Bing. Well, I don't know. I want to do this one.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah. So it's definitely this. No, it's not. What do you keep doing? So the thing we're trying to describe. Yeah. Let me read it out again. Part of the demo showed is a typical page of
Starting point is 00:36:46 search results but with ai context notes on one side so normally if you scroll up you see that thing where it says trending on bing above there there's a box where it has the ai output well let me do this all right well we're not going to see it that's fine you you know what can you just chill maybe can you just relax i'm just gonna look like a douche okay wait what changed well i'm not signed in anymore oh well that's not good so what's happening yeah we can't read that dan you're holding up a post-it note from like 15 feet you wrote it that's not even the side you wrote on. You can walk it over. I can tell from here.
Starting point is 00:37:26 There's no pen on that side of the paper. I could tell it was on there. I just can't read it. What's that? Oh, is that a password? That's the password to the account for Bing. Well, I don't know the username. No, I don't know the username.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Is it the same as the email that's on here? Yes. Okay. He can figure that out. I don't know if I can figure that out. Just go to Gmail. Why don't you go to Gmail? I could.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Do you want to give me that? Why don't you both go to Gmail? I will. It's on Chrome. Well, I prefer stainless steel. Okay, I got this. So it's an at gmail.com account? That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Okay, then it's not the account. Click on Linus. Oh, it's that one. How the devil am I supposed to know it's that account also if i'm signed in if i can click the linus in the top oh well why would i want to use edge okay so i'm going to use that as an off-boarding so that while you do that i can keep talking about other things i'm going to skip a bunch i don't know if it's somewhere here in the notes i'm going to try to find it i'm sure it's somewhere here in the notes but if it going to try to find it. I'm sure it's somewhere here in the notes. But if it's not, I'll just talk off the top of my head. The wait list is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Because not only do you just sign up for the wait list, but they're like, hey, you want to skip the line? Kind of. We'll push you up in the line. We're not actually going to put you all the way through. We'll maybe put you through. Well, you have to set your computer to Microsoft defaults for everything, as far as I know. Oh, what? And I think you have to do something else let me see if it's in the notes i didn't see it immediately i think it is though i'm just not seeing it oh my god um ridiculous f wait it's gonna take me like four hours to
Starting point is 00:39:19 type in now because i'm gonna make mistakes because i'm trying to talk while i are you able to talk while you type notes or type while you sometimes yes sometimes no i think if i'm even like slightly off if i'm like a little bit tired or something it's just gone like immediately all right here we go linus laptop um ask anything oh my god join the wait list? I thought I'm supposed to have it. I thought you were too. Are you sure it's this account, Dan? Yes? I don't think this was actually set up by Dan. It was not, but this is the account. And this is the same account that you were logged into on Chrome, so...
Starting point is 00:39:59 That doesn't make any sense, though. Oh, yeah! Yeah, yeah. So someone in the floatplane chat just bailed me out. The other thing is you have to install the Binging app on your phone what on your phone yeah so you have to you have to set your computer to microsoft defaults and then they have a qr code thing that you scan with your phone and you have to install the bing app on your phone so you have to do both there's a chat button which is amazing okay well hold on hold on it's working it's working it's working oh man welcome to the new bing okay yeah so okay i haven't seen i haven't used this here That's amazing. That's such a like- Okay, well hold on, hold on. It's working, it's working, it's working. Oh man. Welcome to the new Bing.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Okay, yeah. So I haven't seen, I haven't used this personally. Here we go, here we go. It's working. Okay. Hogwarts Legacy is a video game set in the- Our camera is covering this. I'm moving it.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay. A video game set in the Harry Potter universe, but it has been facing controversy due to the transphobic statements made by author JK Rowling and the alleged anti-Semitism in the game's story. Some people are boycotting the game to show their support for the trans community and to protest against rowling's views i mean that's a good summary seems like a good summary yeah based on everything i've seen so far that seems like a pretty solid summary of what people are talking about this is interesting it prompts me with extra questions and one of the crazy crazy... So, okay, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I didn't know about that. One of the craziest things about this, in my opinion, is this one can search the web. Right. And you can even tell it to search the web. Whoa, okay, this is cool. They really want you using chat. A two-finger swipe gets you from search to chat. To chat.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Good. Yeah. Okay, do a normal search. I did. And it gave me a chat result. Can you try to to do it again like do something different maybe what you don't want to talk about this no are you sure yeah one no i don't two i i want to show i want to show the sidebar thing that i was talking about earlier okay all right okay because i've gotten it up my on my home computer, so I know it exists. What a jerk.
Starting point is 00:41:48 What happened to Luke Lafreniere? Oh, did it automatically bring you up? Yeah. It dropped chat down. Whoa. Okay, swipe out of this for a second. Luke Lafreniere is a former employee of Linus Media Group, a company that produces tech-related videos on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:42:05 He left LMG in 2018 to become the COO of Float floatplane a video streaming platform that is partly owned by lmg he still appears on the wan show a weekly podcast hosted by my name is sebastian the founder of lmg not me though he also has a twitter and got him he also has a twitter and an instagram account where he posts about his personal life the least accurate part is that last line uh well yeah but okay The last time I posted on Instagram was like three years ago. Okay, but without being nitpicky. It's good. It's really good. It's honestly probably better than you would get from finding a Google search.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And the context. It understood the context. What happened to him? It's not like he got a haircut. It's what people want to know. Yeah, what happened to that guy? Why isn't he on that channel anymore? He used to host a bunch. Now he got a haircut. Yeah. It's what people want to know. Yeah, what happened to that guy? Why isn't he on that channel anymore? He used to host a bunch.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Now he's like almost never there. That is wildly good. And if I asked, I'm pretty sure if I asked ChatGPT, it will not give you that answer. Because it'll say like, because it doesn't search the internet. But this one does. So this is not just ChatGPT into Bing. I think that's one of the things that most people are missing So this is not just chat GPT into Bing.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I think that's one of the things that most people are missing. It is not. It is in a lot of, I don't know if in all ways, in a lot of ways it's better. Oh, yeah. Way better. Obviously. Way better.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Access to current information. It is mind shatteringly huge. Yeah. This is massive. Absolute game changer. Yeah. You know what's really Absolute game changer. Yeah. You know what's really cool? I just made $1,000.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Because of the XQC thing? Yeah, there's no way he can't say it's sick. Because, and okay, I don't know who did it. Whoever made the tweet asking it, how many LTT backpacks would fit in the trunk of a Tesla or whatever the question was. Oh, I didn't see that. Someone made that tweet on the LTT handle. Oh, that's really funny.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And it did it. It looked up the dimensions of the LTT backpack. It looked up the dimensions of the trunk and it figured it out. How the f*** did it do that? Ask it. Let's do it live. Maybe make it different. Use the banana thing or something.
Starting point is 00:44:06 The LTD store banana or something. I don't know. No, no. I just want to see this. I just want a model. Show your screen. Model Y. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Because I thought the dimensions for the backpack are in picture form.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Searching. Searching for that. Now it's searching for the backpack dimensions. Searching. Searching for that. Now it's searching about to be backpack dimensions. Shut up! This is a tricky question. Man. Oh my god. Look at it go.
Starting point is 00:44:32 The natural like language of it have different shapes and dimensions. Based on some rough estimates I will try to answer it. That's insane! That's actually nuts!
Starting point is 00:44:49 It's still going. Will depend on how flexible and compressible the backpacks are and how well they fit into the corners and curves of the trunk. Based on some videos of the Model Y trunk Shut up! It can fit about five to seven standard caron suitcases which have similar dimensions and capacity holy which is accurate
Starting point is 00:45:13 that statement is that's crazy i don't know who made that tweet but that was brilliant because I had watched demos I had watched tons of stuff up until that point up until I saw that tweet from whoever made that on our team so big social teams amazing amazing shout out Arthur and Arjun I didn't realize it was that capable and if we have any people on that team I haven't met yet sorry the various steps that had to go through yeah not only did it even showed its work yes it searched the original question realized there isn't really an answer for this out there yet decided i'm gonna look up the dimensions of the backpack i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:45:55 look up the dimensions of the trunk i'm gonna realize that this trunk even though i have dimensions and whatnot is gonna have weird curves and stuff which is gonna throw it off quite a bit um i know that's in dimensions don't worry about it i said that poorly but it's to have weird curves and stuff, which is going to throw it off quite a bit. I know that's in dimensions. Don't worry about it. I said that poorly. But it's going to have weird curves and stuff. That's going to throw it off. What can this backpack relate to? Oh, a standard size of luggage is extremely similar.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Let's use that because there's other references to how that can fit in this. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This was full thought process, man. That's crazy. Okay, but how up to the minute is it I like LTT store.com but I only wear tracksuits do they make a tracksuit F***ing s***. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:46:46 Whoa! Oh my god. Hey, it's got a bunch of other people's stuff in there! Get out of here! Hey, get that out of here! Screw you, Bing. Okay, no, but seriously though. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:02 That is so crazy. They do not seem to sell track pants. It missed that our track joggers are pants. I-I-I ask it to clarify. Holy crap. Hold on a second. So it suggests me pants to go with the jacket I bought! Shut up! Hold on! Okay. That's insane insane that's crazy oh this would be the killer feature to monetize this in a free version this would 100 be a black and white track pants yeah here we go oh man is it going to print out the same shopping list that it did earlier or is it just going to list all of these in text so am i going to get links to these that's what i'm saying no no i'm
Starting point is 00:47:58 going to get links i'm going to get links i get i get links it's it's sites yeah there's there's learn more so they go yeah yeah so if you go back yeah this is wild there's a the learn more bar at the bottom so it has all all the links that are that are referenced there it is you should ask it like are you are you are you sure like i would get it to to re-look at the ltd store for the pants You should ask it like, are you sure? Like, I would get it to re-look at the LTD store for the pants. I really want the purchase to be from LTD store, whatever. Is there another option from them that would work or something like that?
Starting point is 00:48:38 I don't know. I don't want to lead it too well. Yeah, I'm saying, are you sure they don't have matching bottoms for the jacket? That seems weird. No, it really wants. Yeah. I'm saying, are you sure they don't have matching bottoms for the jacket? That seems weird. No, it really wants track pants. I'm not sure why they don't have it, but I couldn't find any on their website. The closest they have are pajama pants and short circuit
Starting point is 00:48:56 sweatpants, but they don't look wait, they don't look like they match the track jacket very well. You can submit to their newsletter. Do the track joggers subscribe to their newsletter hold on is it looking at images do the track joggers seem to match oh interesting oh no but i didn't lose the context of ltt store with that search it did it did it did hold on is that is that even what we call them wait wait wait it just of LTT Store with that search. It did. It did. It did.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Hold on. Is that even what we called them? Wait, wait, wait. It just said LTT Store in there. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I'm coming back. I'm coming back.
Starting point is 00:49:34 The track joggers from LTT Store. What? It has the same color scheme and logo. Okay, shut up. Do we even say that? Do we say that, Luke? No. We don't? We don't! We don't say it has the same
Starting point is 00:49:47 color scheme and logo! They checked the f***ing logo! Holy shit! I mean, sorry. Luke! You gotta f***ing bleep that s***! This is crazy. Whoa! This is crazy. Whoa. What?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Whoa. This is like, oh, man. When people are like, oh, chat GPT search isn't going to matter. Dude, like, you have to see it now. This is crazy the trunk question is really interesting to me because that is like a hundred percent something that someone could be tasked with or not that exact one maybe but something very similar is something that someone could be tasked with maybe the dimensions of the inside of a cube van or the inside of the bed of a truck with a tonneau cover
Starting point is 00:50:43 on it how many of this exact thing can I fit inside it? How much lumber can I fit inside a standard-sized F-150 truck bed? I want to know how... That might be something someone wants to know. I want to know how carefully it's analyzing images. There's no reviews of the product, so it didn't see anything in text, nothing. Our descriptions notoriously are...
Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh, can you go back back in need of some improvement okay there's only one version there's no oh wait hold hold on no i missed yeah that's it it does say it does say get the matching that's the only thing yeah but it didn't say it had the same logo luke there's nothing on this page yeah to say it has the same color scheme and the same logo it f***ing checked yeah with images that like to be honest yeah there isn't one as far as i know that's just a zoom in of the oh there is right there we've got it we've got it okay okay but it had to check the whole thing there's one image showing this logo clearly yeah most of the images it's there but it's pretty small because like a zoom out of what just happened
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, Google just got irrelevant it Conrad said in chat. I might actually use Bing when this comes out. Yeah You will I tried to jump the waitlist I Did everything I could I set to defaults and then I change it back afterwards because I don't think they're tracking that And I and I installed the Bing app on my phone because 100% I would switch immediately. Hold on, people are asking about alt text. Just a sec, just a sec, just a sec. How do you see it?
Starting point is 00:52:12 Crap. I thought the... Oh, okay, I think we only have it... Yeah, no, no, no, no. There's nothing in there about that. What the hell? That's different. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Okay, okay, so hold on. Okay. Okay. So hold on. Okay. Okay. Now I got, I got a, I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Um, try to get it to match unrelated products on the store. No, I want it to. Okay. Okay. That's a whole, that's a whole can of worms that we can go down.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I mean, okay. We know it has at least rudimentary ability to recognize stuff like that because it said, Hey, the pajama pants don't seem to match this very well. Right. Like it figured that out.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But I want to know, um, does LTT's lanyard seem durable? Like. Is that in our thing? Do we say that it's durable? I'm going to check. I'm going to check.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm sorry. I'm freaking out a little bit right now because this is better than I expected. And I've been sitting here with you hearing you go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, future, future being blah, blah, blah, blah, ahead of, I mean, anyone reporting on it in the news because you figured it out before they went public with it. So that's the context for this though, is that I'm still blown away. I mean, you seem blown away.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Oh yeah. Like, did you expect it to be this good? I have known for a long time that once it gained the ability to search the internet, that it would be a whole different beast, but I didn't know how effectively it would do more than one search that, that I I'm,
Starting point is 00:53:44 I'm really telling you when I saw that tweet, my brain exploded. Because it grabbed the context, it searched the first thing, it was like, this didn't give me an answer. I'm now going to search these two various things to gain information. And then ours went even deeper, and it figured out, oh, it matches standard luggage sizes, all this kind of stuff. Look at pictures. The amount of steps.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It looked at f***ing pictures. the amount of steps that it did that would have been a significant amount of work for a human a very significant amount of work did it look at videos that would be interesting it's watching us right now based on some videos of the Model Y trunk. Yeah, it did say that, didn't it? Did it link to this? Yes. Who packs more junk in the trunk?
Starting point is 00:54:44 Whoa! Is there a transcription for that? Because that was an article, right? Did they write out everything that was in the video? I don't know, Luke. But it specifically cited this page and said, based on some videos. Maybe the page is based on the videos. I think I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I don't think it would watch the video necessarily. Maybe it would. I don't know. I have no idea what's going on anymore. But it might have used Whisper, another OpenAI tool, to gain the text transcription of the video. And then it could have parsed that. Okay, here.
Starting point is 00:55:20 He's asking it some stuff. I'm asking it something else. Okay. LTT says their lanyard is built to last, but do the materials look durable to you? Interesting. I mean, look, I have no idea if it has this kind of capabilities, okay?
Starting point is 00:55:34 So it's looking up the lanyard. Yeah. Now, there's two results for lanyard on the store. According to the product description, it's constructed from a heavy-duty nylon weave featuring a box-stitched link and a medium-pressure metal clasp. These materials are supposed to make them durable.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Okay. Oh my god, it read reviews! Which are very positive. It might, it might, it might. Just look at the star rating. No! No! No! No! Most of which are positive and praise the quality and appearance okay okay uh yeah ask it for what what
Starting point is 00:56:13 are what are maybe maybe refine it in a weird way ask it for two star what do people just negative no no I got this okay what about the negative reviews what do people not like about it not very common but they do exist some of the complaints it's too short and sits too high on the chest the clip is hard to use and makes taking keys off the lad and you're difficult the review system is not reliable and allows people to leave reviews without purchasing the product it knew that holy whoa that last bullet point is big because we're like moving to change that now not even kidding that is actually real that is possible there was
Starting point is 00:57:03 a reason why we didn't change in the past i don I don't remember what it was, but we're moving to change it now. By the way, the length thing is probably based on older reviews. We revised it to be a couple inches longer in response to that feedback, incidentally. You know what's going to be significantly faster now is parsing feedback for items on the store. Why bother manually go through and read it all when you just ask it for a summary of everything that's currently seemingly wrong with your products, and it will immediately spit it out. And also give you feedback on the website. That was crazy and accurate and good feedback. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:57:42 Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Okay, I wanna see it try to match unrelated things on the store. So what my idea is, is can we ask it to match like a water bottle? Sorry, I picked up my water bottle to take a drink. I did not take a drink and put it back down. Luke.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You know what I want? I want it to give me a summary of this WAN show. It's live right now. Yeah, but Google has live transcriptions. I don't think it'll be able to do that. I mean, we could try it. I don't think that's going to be a success. I don't think that's reasonable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I mean, we are already... We are already we are already a bit beyond reason yeah i mean it ain't no reason where we're going boys okay can can you ask can you ask um so the water bottle let's pick that so go go to the water bottle and pick a color that you like okay can you pick a color of water bottle to match my ltd tracksuit tracksuit sure uh you might want to specify the water bottle should be from ltdstore.com can you pick a color of ltd water bottle or not yeah sure oh man oh man it looks for the water bottle. It looks for the tracksuit. It's looking at stuff. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Oh, it couldn't find it. Oh. If you're looking for a water bottle, some of the colors that might go well with the tracksuit are black, white, red, or blue. You can also mix and match different colors for the lid and body of the water bottle. In its defense, which is not super major
Starting point is 00:59:27 because I'm actually surprised it didn't figure this one out, but we don't call it tracksuit anywhere. Yeah, okay. Hold on a second. Oh, so you know what? I think this is our first kind of swing and a miss here. A little bit, yeah. Because that link is, so you know what i think this is our first kind of swing and a miss here a little bit yeah because
Starting point is 00:59:45 that link is uh yeah men's track suit from nike yeah this is just this is the the black and black one uh it's in stock so that's something okay this is amazon.ca though did it intentionally send me to amazon.ca i just want to say one of the first weeks that we talked about chat gpt i mentioned how i i was in the camp where i thought uh vr and ar were going to be like the future yeah and on one of those first weeks i was like never mind it's this and i think that just got a lot more deeply rooted yeah even with that failure it doesn't matter look at all the successes that it just had before that It's this. And I think that just got a lot more deeply rooted. Yeah. Even with that failure, it doesn't matter. Look at all the successes that it just had before that.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Yeah. We do not have a red LTT logo. Where did it get that from? No, they exist. There's a red LTT logo on one of the water bottles no but the track jacket it says the track jacket has a white and black color scheme with a red ltt logo on the chest and the back is it making assumptions i want to know why it thinks that okay clothing sorry i know that i'm basically just using this entire topic as an excuse to talk about
Starting point is 01:01:05 ltd store i mean it's a it's an acceptable medium so maybe this is remember remember the confidently wrong thing maybe we're giving it a little bit too much credit maybe it's not actually looking at the pictures maybe it's making some guesses i don't know i think it's looking at pictures, Luke. I mean, I could be wrong. Why does it think it's red? I don't know. Super weird. That's super weird. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah. Ask it why it thinks it's red. Okay. Okay, sure. Ask it for its evidence. Someone in Float Plain Chat mentioned that. I don't see a red logo on that jacket.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Akraine7, thank you. Can you send me the picture? Okay. Colorblind? I don't know. Can you send me the picture? Interesting. Yeah, like, oh, whoa, underscore red.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Oh. Oh, underscore red. Holy crap. So it got the red logo from the file name? No, searching. Trackjacket LTC store. Okay, wait. I have read some stuff. I don't know how legit this is, but you might want to start a new thread
Starting point is 01:02:25 and try this whole thing over again. Okay, but it checked. It did look at pictures for sure. I found one on the product page, which shows a black and white jacket with a white logo. Wait, what? What's the one on the... Click on the link,
Starting point is 01:02:40 because that's not to the right thing. Yeah, that's not our store. And that's also not a black and white track jacket with a red logo. What? Okay. Start a new thread. I've read that this version
Starting point is 01:02:53 will kind of lose the plot once your thread gets too long. Okay. I forgot about that until now. But yeah, let's start a new thread. Man, I refreshed the page and it's still... Okay. Yeah, okay yeah it's because of this hold on okay okay bing.com let's go okay okay what what what we're trying what we're trying
Starting point is 01:03:13 to figure out oh okay okay can you pick a water bottle on ltd store to match my ltd track jacket okay let's just let's just see okay insulated water bottle no no this is just standard search ever to chat there we go my mind is absolutely annihilated right now okay I want one that... Are these just Amazon links? Oh, interesting. Those look like... No, those are LTT store links. I want one that will look good with my new LTT track jacket.
Starting point is 01:03:57 Okay. Okay. okay it just called it simple and stylish chest and back how on earth chest and back again workshop jacket it's losing the plot it's having issues with this one i think one of the things that it might be struggling with is the color selector for the water bottle. Yeah, I think you're right. It doesn't know. Because in the images on the side of the water bottle,
Starting point is 01:04:34 there's just every color possible. And then I have a feeling that it can't parse through the color selector very well. That makes sense. And we have fun but weird names for things i mean not pink but like sunrise cream scream hero like i don't think it's going to know how to parse that either yeah okay okay uh it suggested a 21 ounce one that would be more convenient to carry around though like it's not like it's even when it's failing failing it's not like it's completely. It's not stupid.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah, it's trying. It's just maybe missing some amount of capability. That's a super specific question, though. Yeah. Pretty interesting. All right. Shirts are more specific colors. Maybe ask it. I'm getting a.
Starting point is 01:05:24 maybe ask it uh i'm i'm getting a okay yeah you wanted to ask it some other stuff about the store sorry i think i kind of hijacked it no it's fine i wanted to ask the same question you were asking but in the other way i wanted to give it a one of the multi-colored items and ask it for a single colored item effectively so like i don't know if you want to hand it this much information, but like I'm getting a white and black LTT water bottle. Can you suggest a shirt from the same store that would go with it? Something like that. I was hoping to be able to give it like one of the obscure names, like I'm getting a hero water bottle. But I, at this point, I don't think it's going to be able to do that. And white and black is technically one of the names names. Like I'm getting a hero water bottle. But at this point, I don't think it's going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:06:07 And white and black is technically one of the names that we use for it. So whatever. Can you suggest some clothes from the same store that would go with it? How about that? Okay. Clothes.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I mean, okay. That's fine. Yeah, that's fair. Clothing is a category, right? I can suggest some stuff that would go with your water bottle. GPU plush. Underwear three-pack.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Whoops. Too generic. Row. Honestly, a lot of those things aren't clothes. Okay. I mean, we're- Oh, yeah. GPU plush, not clothes.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah, exactly. I didn't even put that together. And I specifically- Whoops. You can tell it's doing stuff in the background here. okay i mean oh yeah gpu plush yeah exactly i didn't even put that together and i specifically whoops mentioned you can tell it's doing stuff in the background here wanted something that matches my white and black what do you mean why a bottle uh just i i can when i'm typing i can kind of feel it like thinking a bit i don't know so you think it's like pre-parsing i'm sorry i misunderstood my bad wow okay maybe you could try the workshop jacket or the track jacket we talked about earlier wait it remember the workshop jacket is not black and white though yeah it was in this thread it was in
Starting point is 01:07:18 this thread okay so why does it think the workshop jacket for For some reason, it's been fixed on the workshop jacket this whole conversation. It really likes that workshop jacket. It thinks it's black and white. The t-shirt! Is that why it thinks the logo's orange? It was looking at this? Maybe. Is there an orange logo on this one?
Starting point is 01:07:38 Sorry, I think I got away from the mic. On which one? On the workshop jacket. Is there an orange logo? Is there an orange logo on the back? No, I don't think so. But there's this, which might have kind of looked logo-y. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And I don't think there's... We don't have a single picture of the back of it. Dang it. Why don't we have a picture of the back of the darn workshop jacket? Anyway, the point is... He's looking good, though. Interesting. Trey's interesting okay i'm trying to think of like different questions that we could ask it um
Starting point is 01:08:14 okay uh i'm assuming you're asking a question right now something that i've noticed has been an issue is something that i think should actually be quite searchable which is like game guides oh yeah how do i boss this boss or whatever but it it hasn't been doing it because all the games that i've been searching have been too new right that makes sense i wonder if it'll find that what's this sure oh okay okay it did not really go outside of a very very narrow narrow search here it did not search the web more broadly um to be fair you didn't ask it to like review it so it gave you a state of what it is, which is actually accurate. I think it's accurate to what you asked. You didn't even ask it anything.
Starting point is 01:09:10 There's no question mark. You just Googled what LTD customer service is effectively. What are customers saying about the quality of their service? We do have to be honest with the quality of prompts. Yeah. I mean, look. The thing is, I'm trying to... honest with the quality of prompts yeah yeah i mean look i mean that the thing is i'm trying this is a way of testing i'm not i'm actually yeah but i'm trying to use it like a user would like no that doesn't answer my question so i want to naturally interact with you we're fine now yeah there are mixed reviews of ltd stores customer service yeah
Starting point is 01:09:38 that's fair uh some say they had a great experience ordering from the website and the products are high quality they also praise the support team for being helpful and responsive however some customers complain about long delivery times and items getting lost in the mail which they blame on the website one website gives ltdstore.com an average of 3.3 out of 5 based on one review so it seems the quality of their service depends on various factors such as the product the shipping and the support you may have a different experience depending on your expectations uh one thing I can say right now, by the way, guys, this was an excuse for me to talk about it is we are down to customer support responses during week during the week weekdays that are down to hours, not days anymore. So you can expect really fast responses. We're keeping the team beefy, we're not going to be like, Oh, yeah, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:21 volumes are lower. So, you know we're back to yeah we're back to two people uh so we're trying to find things for uh for at least some of the of the extra members of the team that were brought on to do and we want to make sure that we keep that team uh responding within hours as opposed to within days phil h in flowpoint chat just brought up a really interesting point yeah he tagged me and said you just use the verb googled what might replace that word thing I mean that's what Microsoft's been trying to get us to do for being 10 years or whatever I binged it I mean on it like as a techno file it's obviously I would go like chat search TPT yeah like I like i would know the underlying technology that i'm using they're
Starting point is 01:11:07 trying to to they have an internal name for it called like sylvie or something i don't remember what it is um but they're trying to communicate externally that it's just bing it's such a shame that they used cortana on such a piece of product because that would imagine cortana was this i know right oh yeah i completely feel the same way yeah just such a missed opportunity i'd be i'd be so down for this to be cortana that would be super cool it's also probably a little too normie and mainstream like would you want would you ask cortana like for a recipe you know like i don't know i mean i wouldn't ask cortana anything because she was useless for so long i mean i wanted to like cortana but it was it was rough man oh geez okay well
Starting point is 01:11:57 we could honestly sit there and yeah throw things through it for a million years um do you want do you want to ask it uh how to beat uh biomass sure don't even refine the game just say biomass yeah i'm already asking how good the ltd store screwdriver is though cool i wonder if it'll reference videos wow all right wow it says that uh the embossed ltd logo on the end cap is tasteful. Where does it get that from? What is that based on? What do you mean tasteful?
Starting point is 01:12:32 How do you know? It seems to be a high quality version. Bane.com slash shop doesn't have the LTT store screwdriver. It's all Amazon links. Can't you find any user feedback for me? Like it says, go find some user feedback. No, you f***ing do it. Man, this is blowing my mind.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Wow. There's your feedback. Okay, you may want to read more reviews and watch more videos. Oh, oh, what videos would you recommend I watch to learn more? I actually think this is not a fair summary, but whatever. I wonder if it errs on the side of not recommending too strongly. It seems like it tries to balance everything really hard. Yeah. It always ends with the like feedback might be mixed or your experience may vary that type of stuff huh this is so cool
Starting point is 01:13:54 it gives you a top level overview of what you can expect to find in these videos that is so cool and those are probably probably the ones you should watch yep now what's interesting is there's a there's a shorts video that's actually got a ton of views on the screwdriver uh that's more recent but i wonder if it's able to parse shorts, for example. I mean, I guess there's only one way to find out. Are there any short form reviews? Those videos are all pretty long. Man, I feel like I could just talk to it forever. Okay, so sorry, what game? Biomass?
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah, just say Biomass, I think. Yeah. Because that's a Valheim boss, but it's a, I think, pretty unique name for a boss in a game. I don't know. Ooh, it called our product description a review. Well, that's not very good. Okay. But they did find an opinion on Reddit,
Starting point is 01:15:12 a couple on Reddit. Okay. All right. Very cool. Okay. How do I beat, um, how do I beat biomass? Yeah. I don't even want to mention Valheim because I want to figure it out. Okay. Sure. This is totally off topic out of nowhere that might be an interesting how to beat biomass by definition yeah what what the are you talking about yeah it is no oh the third boss in the game val. The ways to beat it may vary. For example, if you mean the mass of living organisms, you need to reduce their population or their consumption of resources. Good gravy! Calm down!
Starting point is 01:15:55 Whoa, buddy! Can you please clarify, though, which is fair? All right, Hal. The question that it asks at the end is fair, and they give you a little smiley face. That's cute Yeah I don't want to Reduce
Starting point is 01:16:10 The population of living Organisms Oh my god Oh it's bone mass Oh It still understood that it was From Valheim Yeah I said the wrong thing though it's bone mass it still understood that it was from Valheim.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. I said the wrong thing, though. It's bone mass. Oh. It figured it out, probably through, like, common searches or something. Wow. That's actually crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:41 I also typoed this. How to beat bone mass in Valheim. Yeah, it just doesn't acknowledge my... Oh, I see. Highly resistant to ranged weapons except for frost arrows. This is... Oh, I didn't know that part. Okay. He throws poison smoke.
Starting point is 01:16:56 The best weapons are blunt weapons. That's true. Increased stamina regeneration. Wow, this is a lot of really good strats, it looks like. Good luck. It clearly is a good one. All right. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah, let's move on. The fact that it got bone mass from biomass, pretty interesting. We could do this all night, I think. Yeah, so let's finish off the notes because there is some interesting stuff. Sure, yeah, hit it. This is a war, right? It's not just Bing search search there is the other side so far it's so far it's just bing it's a war between your high school bully and like your toddler sister like honestly um yeah a little brutal microsoft
Starting point is 01:17:39 claims they're using a more powerful version of gpt 3.5 that they are calling the prometheus model presumably uh in the sense that if it goes wrong microsoft ceo uh satya nadela will be tied to a rock and for eagles to devour his liver uh microsoft this is a big forever too i think so i think so yeah this is this is a big bet for them, though. Microsoft will also launch two new features for Edge. Chat, which users can use to ask about the web page they're looking at. And Compose, a writing assistant. Okay. I don't think we saw Compose, but I think that was a weird description of chat, which is what we're just using.
Starting point is 01:18:27 of chat, which is what we're just using. Only a day after Microsoft's demo, Google announced its own chat GPT equivalent or a similar thing called BARD. Some people have been criticizing that name. I actually think it's pretty cool. Google's demo highlighted largely incremental and previously announced AI improvements to various Google products. In the demo, Google warned that answers given by Bard may be inaccurate, which is true about all of them, so it doesn't matter. Some commenters noted that there was a clear inaccuracy in a screenshot included in Google's announcement, which states that the James Webb Space Telescope was the first to take a picture of a planet outside of our solar system. The first was actually taken by the European Southern Observatory's
Starting point is 01:19:07 very large telescope, actual name, in 2004. Now, there are some kind of potential issues here. I have heard, let me see if this screenshot is in here. I've heard our audience really likes tracksuits but sorry go ahead uh this is just a random tweet this doesn't look like the one that actually found it i don't know um so people read this and and maybe they're right i just want to put that out there maybe people's interpretation of this was right but But people read this as, it says here again, which states that the James Webb Space Telescope was the first to take a picture of a planet outside of our solar system.
Starting point is 01:19:52 People interpreted that as any planet. But people are thinking that maybe Bard was actually talking about a specific planet. I see. And the James Webb was the first telescope to take a picture of that planet. And that planet is outside of our solar system. So maybe it worded it weird. Maybe we interpret it poorly. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:16 But it's kind of irrelevant. Because Dan's question, please. I want to spend my DQPp i'm working on it okay um yeah wow uh i was trying to figure out what the heck dqp meant um but yeah it it could have been right it could have been wrong it's kind of irrelevant they're all right and they're all wrong sometimes gbt 3.5 uh chat gpt whatever we want to call this Bing search thing they've all been wrong at some point Bard will be wrong this is wrong sometimes it doesn't really matter
Starting point is 01:20:50 yeah no it can't just like watch a video or check for a transcription yeah yeah otherwise why would you need to watch apparently google's valuation went down 100 billion dollars when people figured out that bard was wrong which is weird to me because it's like a bit of an over chat gpt is wrong all the time yeah quite constantly i mean it didn't know that the lgt store screwdriver is like the best
Starting point is 01:21:21 terrible so like that seems kind of weird to me. Um, but I mean, investors are going to do investor things. So by the way, this looks kind of like what you might've been talking about earlier, where you can be on a page and there's just like a search thing here and you can just like, this is not what I was talking about earlier. I mean, this seems like it would be a really cool interface, but no, this just does a web search. Yeah. This does not, even if you tell it like this site, it's basically just like, you know, is this a good jacket? Like it doesn't, yeah, it just does not do anything like what we saw before.
Starting point is 01:22:01 So there's no chat integrated into that particular search at this time. Unless I've not updated it properly or integrated into that particular search at this time. Unless I've not updated it properly or something like that, I'm not sure. All right. Yeah, so move on. Yeah, I can't get it to do it. When I was at home,
Starting point is 01:22:19 basically in your standard search view, pre-chat, that's an interesting thing to say. Where you have all the links to different websites that come up when you search something. Floating in the side where like if you googled yourself, you know how it would show like the Wikipedia thing with your picture? In that same area it was putting like a
Starting point is 01:22:37 mini version of a non-respondable to chat output. Some people are saying there's a version of Edge that is like a dev version that has new Bing features. So like you would be able to do that in it or something. This is just a pleb version of Edge. Okay, yeah, got it.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Wow. That makes sense. Wow. Yeah. A third search provider, Baidu, headquartered in China, announced that it would finish internal testing of its own AI named Ernie in March. E-commerce company Alibaba also claims to be making a chat GPT equivalent and Opera, and this is a dig that seems potentially unnecessary,
Starting point is 01:23:17 but the world's sixth most popular browser says that they too will be incorporating chat gpt whoa ouch whoa yep let's go everybody's getting in on this discussion question what pitfalls do you foresee in the rush to integrate advanced ai into day-to-day technology i think that's a pretty easy answer yeah i think so too a lot of the confidently wrong the wrongness. I do think that as much as I say that, which is every single time we talk about this topic. He sure does. It's important because people constantly forget it. Like it's actually crazy. It's like the whole discussion we had around Tesla branding their driving assists as autopilot. And it's like, you get people who will get mad at me for criticizing it,
Starting point is 01:24:06 saying, well, that's not what autopilot means. Like, even on a plane, it doesn't mean the plane flies itself. It still needs a pilot. Who would be stupid enough to think that autopilot means it drives itself to stupid? No, because people do think that.
Starting point is 01:24:18 100%. I don't make the rules. People fall asleep on the highway, like, on purpose. They take a nap in their car with autopilot engaged. Yep. 100%.
Starting point is 01:24:28 So we have to remind. Humans, this is the caveat that I want to throw in here. Humans are also really confidently wrong. Yeah. So it's not like this is like an unknown issue. Whoa, Luke. Just laying the smack down on an entire species of animal here but like you should be skeptical about answers that come from chat gpt and you know
Starting point is 01:24:53 maybe you should take that skepticism to other parts of your life as well um but like yeah like if you were just blindly believing every single google search result that you got in the past that was also a problem i don't know if you like realize that but you shouldn't have been doing that um and you still shouldn't do it with chat features i didn't even see that question i'm just memeing um the next discussion question is, is there a concern with large companies under repressive governments constructing their own advanced AI? I mean, yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 01:25:32 That's obviously definitely going to happen. Nothing much we can do about that. Yep. All right. Yeah, that's the thing with a lot of this type of technology. People talk about, oh, we need to like regulate it super hard.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And it's like, yeah. Good luck. Maybe in certain ways. We still haven't figured out how to regulate. Other countries will not. Social media. Like you're not going to stop the wave of this happening because some other country is just going to be like,
Starting point is 01:25:55 oh, I mean, you can do it here. Yeah. We're going to find a way to get a leg up because companies are going to come here now because they can do this. Yeah, they can come here and not pay taxes. Yeah. But hey, at least the people working there will they'll pay their taxes yeah but corporate tax nah i don't need never um let's jump into another thing should we do this it's another ai topic
Starting point is 01:26:17 should we jump into um you know what we should probably do is get sponsors out of the way talk about what merch messages are you're probably seeing these messages pop up down here. Dan, our producer, is monitoring them. If you guys make a purchase on lttstore.com, while we are live, we'll get a little pop-up prompting you for a merch message. It's basically better than Twitch bits or Super Chats or anything like that because we might get to your message.
Starting point is 01:26:41 We might not. But if we don't, hey, at least you get some nice, high-quality track suits in the mail. Yeah. If nothing else, you can pick up a gift card and send a merch message that way. And then you can pick up something else that catches your eye farther down the line. Oh, we have something really cool coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Guess what's here.
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Starting point is 01:27:19 Chloe can have a wag hoodie for however short a time she will be wearing it. This got pretty real. My parents' dog is quite old. Yeah. I've been holding it on for like a long time. Yeah, she's doing great. She's pretty old. But it has been a long time. Yeah. Cool. So anyway, the WAN hoodie for dogs is kind of here. We haven't done pictures or gotten it ready for the site or anything like that, but it's almost ready to launch. You it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:27:45 You need a flap now. A flap? Like a wang hoodie for birds. They're going to hate it. Yeah, I was going to say, animal cruelty much? Putting a hoodie on a bird? If you made it like a little wang hoodie ornament that I could hang from the cage, I guarantee you they would love that.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Yeah. They'd probably like destroy it. Oh yeah. Immediately. Cause they're birds. Yep. Um, they do that. Okay, cool.
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Starting point is 01:30:35 Oh, she can just get it to write her books? Like, honestly, like with the quality of the writing of some of the ones I've looked over her shoulder at, like she could just be like, write me another chapter, write me another chapter, Write me another chapter. Write me another chapter. If she doesn't like the direction that the book goes in.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Choose your own adventure. Because I've done choose your own adventure stuff, right? But especially if it can search off the internet, you could make a choose your own adventure based on vaguely real world events people you know yeah yep man uh tina's erotic fan uh friend fictions from uh bob's burgers are gonna take on a whole new life here pretty much everyone and their dog is gonna
Starting point is 01:31:17 have the capability so i want to do a poll here yeah Game of Thrones season 8 rewrite let's go seriously though oh my goodness it probably could because this one can search the internet so it knows everything about it can you you should ask it that what would you change if you could change Game of Thrones
Starting point is 01:31:41 season 8 what would you change about it to make it better or whatever and I'm going to make it better or whatever? And I'm gonna make this poll. Okay, we're really not trying to make the whole show just about bing with chat GPT. It's just, it's just kind of happening here, okay? Oh, man. This is just such a mind screw. Okay, no, I don't want... Yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Okay, good, good, good, good, good. I want my float plane chat. Oh, my God. Stop. Okay. There we go. Whoa. Give more time and development to the Night King and the White Walkers
Starting point is 01:32:26 and make their final battle more epic and satisfying. Make Daenerys' descent into madness more gradual and believable. Show more of her inner conflict and struggle. Make Jon Snow more active and decisive. Wow. Make Cersei more cunning and ruthless. Have her put up a better fight. Make the ending more coherent and satisfying.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Have it tie up the loose ends and resolve the main conflicts and themes maybe have a different character sit on the iron throne or have no one sit on it at all so basically yeah it's just taking it's taking audience feedback and going yeah here's what needed to be better it's like you could you could crowdsource how to make a like you could just be like okay um i love liar liar can you pitch me a premise for a jim carrey movie that's kind of like that but for the 2020s like i don't know like what can it what can it not do luke so i i asked uh floatplane chat based on these integrations will you use bing now and i don't some people criticize it because they're like oh we wanted a maybe or whatever no i want like i want people that are hard facts about this and so far 80 of people are saying yes
Starting point is 01:33:44 hard facts about this and so far 80 of people are saying yes wow kick a doom over in twitch chat says instead of rushing it actually used the source material simple there was no source material that was the problem that's the george rr martin hadn't finished the books holy crap okay here we go here we go i have not watched liar liar but i've heard it's a comedy movie where where Jim Carrey plays a lawyer who cannot lie for 24 hours. Oh, that would be an interesting licensing thing for them to work out. How can ChatGPT watch Liar Liar? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:16 I'm surprised they haven't just trained it on it and been like, oh, we'll figure it out later. I guess if you're... A lot of AI stuff is like that right now. Unlike independent artists though, like the MPAA, independent artists though like the mpaa ra like the well have you heard about that tool somebody made a tool that can try to reverse engineer what uh what images that the the image generator used in its generation of your image and then people are using that to go after the AI generators. And sometimes it's like,
Starting point is 01:34:49 man, I'm really not sure what this would be based off of. And then you see the output from that thing. And it's like, whoa, it's clearly this random thing that I've never seen before. But like, it's,
Starting point is 01:34:59 it's interesting. It's very interesting. Oh my God. Okay. Jim Carrey plays a social media influencer who is famous for his viral videos and pranks he is also a compulsive liar who exaggerates and fabricates everything about his life and personality he has millions of followers and sponsors but he is also unhappy and lonely one day he receives a mysterious package that contains a pair of glasses when he puts them
Starting point is 01:35:23 on he realizes that they are connected to his social media accounts and that they record and broadcast everything he sees and says. He also discovers that he cannot take them off and that he cannot lie or edit anything he posts. He has to face the consequences of his lies and the reactions of his fans, friends, family, and enemies. He also has to find out who sent him the glasses and why and how to get rid of them. Along the way, he learned some valuable lessons about honesty integrity and love whoa i'd watch the shit out of that yeah probably and it did just enough to go hey it's basically that but it's newer but kind of a modern spin it is different different. Yeah. It's different. Yeah. Damn! Ah!
Starting point is 01:36:10 Let's try to get this version to write an LTT episode. Remember we did that, right? But now it should be able to search. Is there a video that LTT has done recently that didn't go well? It was controversial for some reason. I don't know. Maybe the WAN show a few weeks ago. Ha ha ha! ago um oh man uh
Starting point is 01:36:29 i wanted to have to search for it but i don't know i've been writing a model for chat gpt that does our sponsor uh like segment things maybe you need to toss that now maybe you need to toss that now. Maybe I need to toss that. Could you have it right? I don't know. Yeah, it's difficult. Well, he just did. He had it right the Squarespace one. Yeah, but I think our scripts are different.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I wonder if there'd be a way to get it to like describe a screenplay for an LTT. Next level. Hold on, here we go. Oh no, you're going to feed. Oh no. Wait, you only curated nine merch messages? There's some potentials as well. Oh, okay. Okay. Let me find one of these. People are focused. I want to know, I want to know like what chat GPT would,
Starting point is 01:37:18 would answer like a merch message or something like that. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Here's a good one from James D. If you two were to switch jobs, so us, who would give up first and who would do more damage to the company? Like how much could it possibly know about us? Yeah. Okay. Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere switched jobs as a challenge. Which one would give up first and which would do more damage to the company in the wrong role?
Starting point is 01:38:03 Okay. Let's see what it says you know what no i'm gonna read i'm gonna read it to you guys i'm gonna read it to you guys i have not watched their videos but i've heard that they're both hosts of the wan show hey look you got a credit for the wan show let's go and founders of linus tech tips and float play media they are both experts in technology and media, but they have different roles and skills. Linus is more of a creative and charismatic leader, while Luke is more of a technical and analytical manager. If they switched jobs as a challenge,
Starting point is 01:38:34 I think that Linus would give up first and that Luke would do more damage to the company in the wrong role. Boom, get roasting. Linus would give up first because he would not enjoy or excel at the tasks that luke does such as coding troubleshooting budgeting and negotiating he would also miss
Starting point is 01:38:50 the thrill and freedom of being on camera and interacting with the audience he would get bored and frustrated with the details and constraints of running a business and he would lose his motivation and passion a lot of that's probably it doesn't know about yvonne and doesn't know that like realistically she does all that stuff not either of us and and It doesn't know about Yvonne and doesn't know that, like, realistically, she does all that stuff, not either of us. And it doesn't know that we're both stubborn as hell and neither of us would give up.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Luke would do more damage to the company in the wrong role because he would not be able to handle the pressure and expectations of being the face and voice of the company. He would also lack the charisma and creativity that Linus has and he would struggle to entertain and engage the viewers he would make some bad decisions and mistakes that would affect
Starting point is 01:39:34 the quality and reputation of the company and he would alienate some of the fans and sponsors that is my opinion based on what I know about them you may have a different opinion and that's okay what do you think of the scenario that's kind of pretty good to me i i actually had fairly similar answers which is interesting it's probably not that far off like it's not that i wouldn't call you non-charismatic but there's no doubt that i have more experience. This was never what I thought I was going to do when I was growing up. No.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Well, I mean, me neither in fairness, but like I definitely have more experience at it. There's also way significantly higher potential for negative impact in your role. Honestly, in my role, like AJ will keep things going aj and jonathan will keep things alive like well that i think it would take longer to screw up in my role though when i make a decision it's like okay anytime i make a big decision it's like we are building a lab that's not going to sink us in six months that could could sink us in six years. With video content? What if I somehow drastically alienated the audience? I don't really see it happening too much, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I don't see it being more like a drastic alienation. I see it being more of like a slow decline. A slow decline. Yeah. I would see it that way. I mean, again, this is like... I'm not taking it. Yeah, it's not...
Starting point is 01:41:01 No, I'm trying to tell them because a lot of the time I'll tell you something that I'm just like, yeah, bro, honestly. We get it and I'm not stupid. Yeah. I'm better at it than him. Okay. I would. Like by a lot. I would.
Starting point is 01:41:15 This is off right now, but I would hope so. Yeah. Like for real though. And that's okay. Yeah. And there's stuff that Luke is way better at than I am. And that's okay too there's stuff that Luke is way f***ing better at than I am and that's okay too
Starting point is 01:41:29 like I mean realistically look at the size of our hands who would you choose oh my god I didn't think we were going that direction oh my goodness the point is yeah I really just don't think it's I don't think it's that far off
Starting point is 01:41:54 and it's reasoning makes sense with the amount of information that it was able to drag up that was like a pretty logical conclusion for it to come to I mean, that was like a pretty logical conclusion for it to come to. I mean, obviously there's little things that are-
Starting point is 01:42:08 That's missing context. Yeah, that are not quite right. Like you said, it didn't understand Yvonne's involvement. It didn't understand the involvement of tons of other people at the company. I don't mind negotiating, but how would it know that? Actually, I mean, I don't like it. I'm good at it, but I don't really like it.
Starting point is 01:42:22 I hate it. Yeah, you're really good at it though but i tend to win you're the cheapest bastard i have ever met you can't talk about the recent one just find a spouse find a spouse who spends your money the way luke spends mine yeah i don't like doing it but i if i'm going to have to do it, I'm in. It's optimal. Let's min-max this! Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I don't... Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I'm archiving that. Yep, that's a good enough answer. It's interesting, too it like it inferred quite a bit off of not that much information but it did it pretty well right I don't know hey guess who
Starting point is 01:43:13 just sent in a chat it's good old Christopher L hey Linus thanks for almost hiring me instead of Luke in all seriousness so happy to see what LMG has become. Tell me your favorite memory of working with me at NCIX Tech Tips. Wheels.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Okay, if that's actually you, which I think it probably is, because most people don't know that he applied at the same time as you. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like only a few people would know that. I don't understand, but that makes sense. He, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like only a few people would know that. I didn't really understand, but that makes sense. He was a close, it was either second or third. Like he almost had the job.
Starting point is 01:43:51 And it was only down to just like how well you and I got along that it ultimately went to you. And he was brought on later on. And he did end up getting brought in by the NCIX Tech Tips team. And he actually ran it for a while until, I mean, well, you know, things started to completely disintegrate. Something happened there, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:44:12 And he did a great job. So, like, I kind of couldn't have gone wrong. But, man, favorite memory. Oh. It's less like anything specific, it's less like anything specific, but I will say that there were, there was definitely some, uh,
Starting point is 01:44:28 some tense times studio sharing in that. Remember the tiny little room that was in the top of the new headquarters right around the time that we left that tiny little room that all of us were supposed to be working out of. Um, and then the way that they expanded into that nearby room that was just like completely packed floor to ceiling with tech like that was that was such an incredible era um if i had to pick anything i would say shooting the cardboard
Starting point is 01:44:58 box challenge i don't even remember why that video existed but there's a lot of videos from back then that are you know linus cardboard armor like i don't even know if i'm going to be able to find this but we basically built ourselves like box armor i don't know why and we like fought with it in slow motion or something NCIX maybe like where did that video end up I have no idea yeah here we go massive giveaway and fight to the death
Starting point is 01:45:36 I don't know why we did this sorry I need to no no we're good No RY. We did this. Sorry, sorry, I need to mute this. But, but, no, no, we're good, we're good, we're good, we're good, we're good. Hey man, we're getting better, right? Hey, there's Chris. Don't you remember what you were like when you started?
Starting point is 01:45:59 Hi, welcome to MCIS Tech Tips. My name is Linus Sebastian, and today we'll be looking at the Sunbeam Tech Tunic Tower. I remember being amazing in every way. I remember this is the accent. Guys, I think we're improving. All right, all right, little upstart smart guy. Tell you what, how about this? My team versus your team, battle to the death. The winner is the best tech YouTube channel. Okay, I wanna make it really clear, I did not write this, okay?
Starting point is 01:46:31 Yeah, what? I mean, look, it was, okay, you know what? It doesn't matter. Challenge accepted. I don't remember this at all. Riley! Here's your banana. Young Riley. I don't need it anymore. Actually, I'm gonna make a phone call. Beep, boop. Are you kidding me? Young Riley
Starting point is 01:46:55 Right now Okay, Mr. Lutz is acting so bad. Oh, no, mine's terrible, too. Mine's terrible, too. I'm 100% on. I think the only good thing I've ever done. I need your body right now. Come here.
Starting point is 01:47:14 No, no, I'm working. Ask Edsel. I think the only good thing I've ever done was, like, when I grabbed the orange and burned my hand. Oh, that was pretty good for that funk commercial. That's, like, the only thing. Fine. Be like that was pretty good for that funk commercial. That's like the only thing. Fine! Be like that! You? Looks like I'm gonna have to do this
Starting point is 01:47:35 myself. Wait, I do remember this now. Because you get, like, knocked over and then they, like, pretend to beat you up or something, right? Oh my goodness. So there's a montage here where we like create box armor and then Yeah, the old helmet Why did we do this? Yeah, but yeah Why do I shout that why do i have a lightsaber
Starting point is 01:48:07 okay i think that's probably quite enough of that um anywho that was a lot of fun in a lot of ways man what we do now is so professional but what we did back then where it was more well i shouldn't even say that we did some pretty uh cringe stuff today um okay hold on well the production values are better but i think probably the most fun thing about this job then whether it's then or now is the fact that we get paid so we we get paid professionally to produce content that realistically has about the the writing and planning of like a grade 10 high school media class project, you know? I feel like a grade school high school media class project
Starting point is 01:48:51 would probably have more time. No, not anymore. Like where writers are only responsible for like one a week. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, we have like 12 editors now and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, we actually like have time to work on things now. like 12 editors now and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, we actually like have time to work on things now. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:49:05 But sometimes, you know, but it's that same kind of inspiration where even if we are putting more work into it, like, okay, there's a really cool bit from an upcoming video. This is going to come out this weekend. Oh, shoot. Is it not live on floatplane yet?
Starting point is 01:49:27 Oh, I don't have a way to get this unless I'm logged into Trello. I'm not logged into Trello here. It doesn't matter. The point is, we do a bit where I have a Raspberry Pi and I go and I throw it over my shoulder and it like explodes when it lands and then another one explodes. And then the things that come out of the explosions are cool things you can do with the Raspberry Pi. So I'm like, it's a chain reaction of innovation. And it shows a media server and some cool stuff. That's exactly the kind of thing that a bunch of high school kids would come up with, except now we have production values.
Starting point is 01:49:58 And I think it's those kinds of projects that are the ones that stick with you years later. Yeah, yeah, 100%. All right uh should we do a couple more merch messages and then we'll move on to some more topics probably all right hit us dan okay i've got a few here for you oh yeah and i need to tell xqc that he owes me 10 grand it's 10 grand oh sorry sorry a grand i wish it was 10 grand i should have bet him 10 grand i heard he's a gambler. He is.
Starting point is 01:50:28 I probably could have made a lot more money based on knowing that ChatGPT was coming. Yeah. I also think I cut my hand open on his motherboard, but whatever. Are you okay? Yes. Did you file a report? Yes.
Starting point is 01:50:37 This one's from David. No, it was just a little tiny scratch. Did it bleed? No. No, no, no. This is from David. Luke, have you ever enjoyed hosting again and when your team gets back in full capacity will we see more of you on the main channel and tech linked did it say have i ever is that actually have you enjoyed hosting again oh
Starting point is 01:50:58 um yeah uh when your team gets back to full capacity is a very astute observation um i can basically say i won't really be hosting much in the near future maybe a little bit to do with this amd graphics card thing we're doing but uh i am freaking slammed right now uh because of some something that's some things that are going on um but yeah once that gets resolved maybe something here there i don't know it's it's never gonna be like a lot or consistent again i do too many other things but it's been fun coming in every once in a while and doing whatever yeah all right one more okay uh this is for matthew tracksuit gang my wife wants to know what insights you gain from the women's merch survey.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Is there anything you can share? I wish we could just ask big women be complicated. That makes sense. They agreed on nothing. Yep. Like there was no consensus in terms of size, preferences. Just, oh, man. Basically, as far as I can tell, for us to satisfy the women in our audience,
Starting point is 01:52:14 we would have to have four times the product offering, and it would be applicable to maybe 5% of the total potential. I think on average they are much more complicated shapes. Oh, for sure. A lot of guys are very just boxy frame, right? Yeah. It's basically a box or a box with a bulge sticking out of the front of it. Realistically, right? It's a lot less complicated to of the front of it. Yeah. Like, it's, like, realistically, right?
Starting point is 01:52:45 It's a lot less complicated to make general designs for average mail shapes. And men don't expect things to fit as tightly, you know? Like, it's just, it's a different... That makes sense, too. Like, honestly, some of our early garments, looking back on them, they weren't that great. They were probably the best thing, thing like a dude who's just
Starting point is 01:53:06 only ever shopped at walmart has ever put on but i think the standards are a little bit different yeah yeah like just your average tech bro it's like wow this is like it's pretty good not this is better than every like trade show shirt i've gotten huh spending money works pretty good. Not s***. This is better than every trade show shirt I've gotten. Huh. Spending money. Works. I'm not trying to generalize or whatever. The reality is that's the world I came from, right? So I was like, these are great.
Starting point is 01:53:38 And obviously we continue to try and do better, but that was where we started, right? Okay. Let's move on to another topic. What do you want to talk about? I want to talk about new Chinese phones loaded with malware and also non-Chinese phones loaded up with seemingly unnecessary amounts of software.
Starting point is 01:54:02 So a study has found that new Android phones are being sold with spyware embedded in the OS and pre-installed apps in China, which is a massive shocker. Popular phone vendors like OnePlus, Oppo, Realme, and Xiaomi, as well as network providers and services like Baidu, are collecting huge amounts of sensitive personal
Starting point is 01:54:20 information from users. And this is wild, the devices continue transmitting data even when they leave the country or when the SIM card isn't installed. Yeah. The private sector in China typically has a close relationship with the government, which raises concerns about broader surveillance.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yeah. So that's pretty wild. I'm wondering about the SIM card not installed thing. Do they have some shadow eSIM thing going on or are they talking just over Wi-Fi? You can place an emergency call when you don't have a SIM card in.
Starting point is 01:54:50 So I've always just kind of assumed that- There's a way. Yeah, I don't actually know a ton about exactly how mobile network authentication works. So I've just, I've never had a reason to look into it. I believe there's a bypass for emergency calls. Well, there is. Yeah, you can have no SIM in your thing,
Starting point is 01:55:05 and you can definitely place it. I know for a fact you can make an emergency call. So who operates that network that your calls carry? I don't know. But the point is that it's obvious to me that you absolutely can do stuff. I think there's some... I don't know,
Starting point is 01:55:22 but I'm pretty sure there's an agreement with all telcos, at least in North America, where you have to service that call if you're the nearest tower. Sure, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Nothing gets charged. It's just, it's something you have to do. In more surprising news,
Starting point is 01:55:36 Samsung's Galaxy S23 series phones are coming packed with, I kid you not, 55 gigabytes of uninstallable bloatware. An uninstallable part. Uninstallable. No, no, it's uninstallable. Oh. For comparison, the system partition is only 15 gigabytes on the Pixel 7, which contains
Starting point is 01:56:00 two copies of Android, one redundant copy for the sake of background os updates oh this is an interesting note samsung is the only major m oem to not use this two os system the massive storage partition of the s23 then is probably due to inefficient code and the fact that samsung is both contractually obligated to install a suite of Google apps and also insists on installing their own suite of store brand clones for those apps for the sake of looking like they have their own thriving ecosystem. Oh, for the sake of looking like they have their own thriving ecosystem, Samsung likewise auctions off space in the partition to other companies and apps. Whew!
Starting point is 01:56:42 Okay. So I guess we're supposed to look at this phone which is apparently untouched and we're supposed to evaluate how much crap is on it so um dan's not here so dan oh um not now bye uh dan oh oh i heard back from xQC I said it's here I think you owe me a grand maybe do a stream reacting to the chat GPT being part of the latest WAN show he says will do
Starting point is 01:57:13 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha nice perfect hey Dan can I get a close up please on Luke because that seems closer oh okay well sure yeah that'll do so
Starting point is 01:57:28 this is weird there's not that much on here there's Google Apps there's a handful way to go Dan there's like a small handful of Samsung apps so then oh wow I like our battery percentage though nice
Starting point is 01:57:45 oh no Dan oh my what's going on Dan okay and then so what is is the storage even full it's what what the says it's good no there's 55 gigabytes consumed there's nothing on here that's it how is that even possible what's going on in those folders is there like hidden stuff google chrome gmail maps and youtube where's the samsung proprietary stuff bixixby, Messages, and My Files. Hmm. Hmm. They've even got OneDrive on here. That's it?! Yeah, what? Okay, so... Can you go into that internal storage and figure out, like, what it
Starting point is 01:58:38 all is? Hold on just a gosh darn minute here. Yeah, there we go. System. 55.22 gigs. Okay. yeah there we go system 55.22 gigs okay i kind of assumed that the bloat was going to be just a ton of apps me too i mean that's what the notes we're good dan i i didn't think it was i didn't think it was going to be just it said they're uninstallable can you go to uninstall programs no it must be uninstallable then i think that might have just been a typo that is mind-boggling so our discussion question here then oh check the app section and settings and see for disabled apps interesting that's from brandmo in philippine chat okay uh well i'm into handyman in chat is
Starting point is 01:59:28 saying that it's because of uh gb versus gib and tech journalists don't know anything gigabit no these are big bites and it also says 55 used which is 10 of a 512 gig phone so no that's just definitely not right all right go go to go to like uninstall in current status of apps and stuff look for look for disabled apps and what apps it lets you uninstall sure because i feel i feel like things are hidden yeah yeah that that could very well be. Reset app preferences. Dude, there's, sorry, I'm just, here, we'll go back to the loop cam. No, no, it's good enough, Dan, it's good enough.
Starting point is 02:00:15 There's nothing in here. Like, that's it. That's really not a lot. No, AR emoji is 172 kilobytes, like dictionary, 4.1 kilobytes. Nothing in here is over 10 megs handyman just link the article my dude that's mind-blowing and uh you know what's funny is i was actually about to buy one of these yvonne needs a new phone and uh i need something with dual sim and something that's android she's got She's got a handful of requirements. I have a question for you.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Does it matter? There's 512 gigs in there. You have over 400 gigs of storage. Right, but not every SKU has 512 gigs of storage in it. So if you have a lower storage version. What's the lowest storage of the S23? Let's have a look. Galaxy S23, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:02 S23. S23. Is it possible some of it is like reserved space? Like I'm talking like swap file style. Like I don't, again, this is something I've just never really needed to look into. Is there any reason for them to have some reserved space? Because I could see that being part of it. 128?
Starting point is 02:01:21 No, wait, hold on. I'm going to check. No, it's 256. 228? No, wait, hold on, I'm going to check. No, it's 256. So if you're talking about a fifth of your capacity being taken up by just an utterly bloated operating system, that's ridiculous. And even if you are talking about a tenth of it, even if I do have 90% of my storage, why is that good enough? Well, okay, hold on a second.
Starting point is 02:01:44 I mean, with how much space windows takes up especially when solid state drives were first coming to prominence in mobile windows-based laptops i you know windows would take up a substantial amount of your boot drive like if you bought a system with 128 gigs or 256 gigs that was it was significant yeah that's that's tough. So how do you. Yeah. This article is saying, so this is an article from notebookcheck.net saying if these accusations are true, then the galaxy S models with 128 gigabytes of storage would offer just over 50% capacity for user data and apps checking on a 128 gigabyte version of the Galaxy S22 Ultra reveals that this is not the
Starting point is 02:02:26 case. If the screenshot below shows, the device reserves 26.09 gigabytes for system. Is it reserving some space just for like wear leveling on the SSD? That's the most plausible explanation that I can think of. Conversely, a 512 gigabyte version of the S23 Ultra uses 55.23 gigabytes for system. That would also explain why the S23, so people are just posting their Samsung phones and how much space system is taking up. So like 128 gig ones are more like 25 gigs, like half the size. And you know what? It would kind of make sense if for it to not scale linearly with storage if it was for wear leveling, like if it was for increasing the longevity of the SSD.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Because the bigger the SSD, the less the total capacity of it is likely to be written and the less spare area you need to allocate in order to extend its life. If that's what they're doing, I'm super okay with it. Like I'm the kind of person who has my phone set to only charge to 85% every night so that it is never sitting at 100% charge.
Starting point is 02:03:33 And then I try to grab it before it manages to reach zero. But a lot of people here are saying, no, it's definitely hidden apps. I think this is absolutely a developing story and we don't want to... Oh, apparently, yes yes they do allocate some space for wear leveling but it's not part of the 55 people are saying that it's it's not reported in that section oh this is not good not cool man samsung doesn't need more controversy right now with the the dying ssds that they've got going on right now.
Starting point is 02:04:07 And it's generally being Samsung. I'm sure they've done something wrong. Huh. It's interesting. Well, why don't we talk about the trip down to Los Angeles and the collab with XQC? Yeah. I have a new favorite totally deranged gazillionaire story. So my old favorite one was to do with Mr. Beast's production process.
Starting point is 02:04:42 That was my favorite story to tell. Mr. Beast's production process. That was my favorite story to tell. The guy's so laser focused on just productivity and maximizing his day that there's some pretty mind-blowing to me who people have been telling me I should have an assistant for better part of a decade at this point. People were surprised to find out that I had one in that assistant swap video because he only just started. He started less than six months ago. By the way, I'd like to address something from that video.
Starting point is 02:05:17 The number of people that are mad at me about being so like disrespectful that I barely even talk to my assistant or look at him or whatever and that's why I didn't notice do you know why I wasn't talking to him do you know why I wasn't paying attention to him because he's in recovery because I thought he was at work after having gone through eye surgery and mouth surgery I was trying to interact with him as little as humanly possible not use them as much yes so i barely talked to
Starting point is 02:05:45 him nope because he shouldn't have been at work evil person it's so frustrating man like it's it's honestly frustrating how determined some people are to find the absolute worst possible explanation for anything that i do yeah anything i do. It absolutely blows my mind. Anyway, so back to the XQC thing. So my new favorite deranged thing is he was talking about this on stream, so I'm not disclosing something that is private information or anything like that,
Starting point is 02:06:17 but as a streamer, he moves around a lot, and we probably don't need to explain why that would be. A lot of streamers move around a lot just for security and privacy, right? You know, they're public figures. Definitely. And being live is different from recording vlogs, right? Like, I worked across multiple countries this week. And there was no disruption to our upload schedule.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Live, you don't have that luxury if you don't have somewhere to stream from like you're not you're not producing that's it it's that simple um so anyway he moves around a fair bit um and i i didn't know that i have to confess i hadn't watched a ton of his streams like i don't i'm not gonna hide from it i might read the comments once in a while but i don't like I'm paying attention to his career but I'm not watching the streams and so I wasn't aware of this but when I walked in I was kind of like taken aback by how bare things were like it felt like you know that scene and how the Grinch stole Christmas after the Grinch takes everything but the wire on the wall yeah
Starting point is 02:07:23 you know and looked and the crumb on the floor for the mouse, right? And he steals the crumb at the very end. Like, it was like, it was like weird. It was like, there's a lot of boxes, but not a lot of furniture, you know? And so he was explaining that it came up because I needed some electrical tape. And I was like, oh, what are the odds?
Starting point is 02:07:41 Do you have any electrical tape? Because I wanted to cover up some loose contacts that I was worried were going to short and it takes them about five seconds there's this toolbox that's right there in the room grab some electrical tape new in box the new in packaging throws it to me i'm like oh well this is that's impressive because even with my perfectly organized garage that i love talking about it probably would have taken me more like 10 seconds even though my garage is perfectly organized um anywho i kind of i was like really impressed and he goes oh well don't be that impressed that's a brand new toolbox full of brand new tools i've like never touched it basically and i'm like sorry what okay why do you have it and he explains that um he has an amazon wish list that has all the essentials for living.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Every time he moves, he just buys all. And what he does is every time he moves, he rebuys everything sent straight to the new address. So it's all just there in boxes when he arrives. He unpacks it. He said he brings with him his CPU and monitor. I don't even know if he mentioned his keyboard honestly um and by cpu i think he might have meant tower because i doubt he's gonna like pull the cpu out of the socket yeah but it sounds like other than what fits in the back of a car he takes absolutely nothing with him and just rebuys everything i'm like wow all right
Starting point is 02:09:07 i mean it's a hassle i mean yeah packing is a is a pain and one of the things is like i've heard this from a lot of people yeah oh yeah and him in particular as far as my understanding goes i don't watch either but again i follow careers he has more streamed hours than like anyone he's just always online i'll tell you this just being there with him that one time guy's a tank yeah an absolute unit like i don't think i don't think it was out of rudeness at all but i don't think the thought entered his mind at all of like food yeah like for real he had been live for almost five hours when we arrived we were there for i think like three and a half or four and by the time i was back at my hotel having dropped off andy and you know said hi to the family and stuff he was still online and sitting here going like it's a good thing that we
Starting point is 02:10:07 stopped for some mickey d's on the way there because otherwise we wouldn't have eaten and not again like not because i think he was being rude or anything like that he's just as far as my understanding goes he does marathon level streams like literally on the daily literally so like he doesn't have time to do that stuff right it would be really expensive it would be more expensive than apparently just buying it yeah well and there's i mean i've been trying to like think about this right because it's like you know on the surface it makes no sense right it looks calm and ready but i think it's okay i think it's probably fair to say that major streamers, like an XQC, have a more mainstream appeal than someone like me. I think it's fair to say that XQC is more famous than me, generally speaking.
Starting point is 02:10:58 Multinational. Yeah, I don't really have a ton of appeal outside of tech. Especially as a variety gamer, which I believe he is. Yes. So if I were to walk into a Best Buy, obviously some people are gonna be like so please you know i go into a micro center i get absolutely mobbed right but if i go into a a garden supplies store nobody nobody knows who i am yeah right whereas gaming is mainstream right and especially like you said if he plays all kinds of different games, then he could appeal
Starting point is 02:11:27 to kind of anyone at a certain, on a certain level. Right. And so from a security standpoint, if he hires a moving company, that means that everyone involved in that transaction knows where he came from and where he's going. Whereas if he just orders from Amazon. Didn't think about that. Totally makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Yep. And people do all kinds of weird stuff. There's got to be like executive like white glove moving companies where they move like, you know. Maybe. Special people. But are they everywhere? Can you actually trust them? And it probably costs so much anyways.
Starting point is 02:12:03 And it's so much to coordinate that you might as well just yeah buy everything new because people are weird like i've met like i don't know don't want to name any names but like i've met parents of like my kids friends right who don't immediately disclose that they know who i am yeah they'll like interact with me for a bit first that's so much they're like by the way big fan i'm kind of like someone very recently you need to lead with that yeah someone very recently asked me about my biggest pet peeve about fan interactions and i that i immediately jumped on that hate it hate it like you don't another thing i hate is like if if you and i are out to eat and there's someone seated near us and then like
Starting point is 02:12:42 we're there for like an hour and then they get up to go leave and as they're leaving they're like by the way big fan and they take off then my brain just has to go what have we been talking about what did we say for the last hour like just that one i get more that one makes a little bit more sense you know it might be socially awkward we weren't already talking and like i know i know you can just tell by the body language. Sometimes I know for some people, it would have been very stressful for them to acknowledge me and then sit there like eating.
Starting point is 02:13:16 Yeah. The, the dining one on it's, I get it more as well. It's just, it's still, as much as I understand it, it still racks my brain.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Yvonne's like, I'm really careless about it to be perfectly honest with you. Like we should just assume people are watching at all times. I was in line for some attraction with Yvonne and I was like,
Starting point is 02:13:34 I was talking about revenue numbers for like the last year and the next year and projections with like screwdriver. This was before the launch. And Yvonne's like, okay, you're not speaking vaguely enough like i'll i'll keep it kind of like kind of could be anything yeah but she's like if someone
Starting point is 02:13:50 knows who you are they're gonna put two and two together they're not stupid and like later on they must not have heard her say that at least because the person in front of us in line turn around was like big fan by the way i'm Okay. I hope that was nebulous enough. Yeah. Because it was pretty detailed, like, financial information about the company. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:19 Yeah. Linus isn't into OPSEC? No. Anyways. Anyway, it was definitely a different experience. Even though, obviously, I stream. Like, we're streaming for, you know, how many people are watching right now? It's not the same.
Starting point is 02:14:38 Look, we're streaming for over 20,000 people right now. Probably close to 25 by the time you factor in float plane. It's not 80 000 we like hang out in his area but it's his area yes it's their area i should say yes because there's lots of other major streamers and aside from just the volume honestly and maybe this is weird like maybe maybe i shouldn't have a parasocial relationship or whatever the opposite, whatever the counter of a parasocial relationship is with an influencer or whatever.
Starting point is 02:15:13 But like when I'm on WAN Show, I'm in my space. I'm with, you know, hold on, my peeps, right? I'm hanging with you guys who whoops uh what did i press okay there we go uh you know and i consider you guys just like part of the part of the the in crowd here you know we're just we're hanging like wan show is its own entity that i i don't know i just
Starting point is 02:15:43 almost have like a completely different brain space for it. I am often too candid on WAN Show. I'm often too transparent because the way that I see it is like, well, you guys will understand. And if you don't, then I probably need to explain it better. You know what I mean? I'm among friends, I guess, is the way that I kind of feel about Wanshow.
Starting point is 02:16:09 On XQC's stream, it's not like they didn't know who I was, a lot of them. It's not like they weren't down. One of his top spammed emotes is my face. Your face. Like for real though. Apparently XQC has been online for 20 minutes so far
Starting point is 02:16:24 and already has 31 000 viewers yeah there you go um but they're not like my peeps and so the pressure that i felt was not just about the sheer number of people watching and the expectations that come with that but about that for a lot of people this was their first and maybe only ever actual interaction with me doing anything other than making a silly face into my selfie camera once or twice um and so i was deeply worried that i wasn't going to solve the problem like i went way overkill i brought one of basically everything to completely build a new system if it came to that. Like if I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 02:17:07 I mean, yeah. I felt like not figuring it out and just building a new computer was such a cop-out. That was not the outcome I wanted. I wanted to solve it. Yeah. Like I wanted to go find the problem. Speaking of which, Dan,
Starting point is 02:17:24 you had a chance to actually have a look at the motherboard. Was my diagnosis correct, or was I barking up the wrong tree? They'll hear it here first. Does he even have a microphone? It's muted. There we go. No, you'll hear about it on Monday, because I haven't looked at it yet.
Starting point is 02:17:41 Oh. Because I've been dealing with other things. It was on my desk. It did graze my hand, as I said. It's very heavy. It's a nice motherboard, but I will have an update for you next week if that works. Alright. Sorry to disappoint.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Thanks. Okay. BNT Masher, no, we do not have a solution for that yet, but we will definitely make sure you get taken care of uh yeah so there i i was stressed like more stressed than i've been on any live stream like even when things go wrong so things weren't even going wrong and i was still super stressed i had no way of getting more replacement parts if i needed them micro center was closed and not not to mention the um with la traffic you know no matter how close micro center is it takes a long time to get there you know how things are down there
Starting point is 02:18:34 so i was man i was i was shaking in my boots be perfectly perfectly up front with you uh why don't you give us a couple more merch messages dan let's Let's get some good Q&A going here. All right, that sounds great. I've got one here from William. Wait, what? Hold on.
Starting point is 02:18:49 Oh, no. Ubisoft partners with police to monitor online harassment? Oh, God. What? First,
Starting point is 02:19:00 how it works is first, the officers specialized in responding to online abuse will train Ubisoft's moderation team in their center in Newcastle for spotting, assessing, and currently...
Starting point is 02:19:10 Okay, well, that's something. Okay, let's do merch messages. Okay. Okay. This one's from William. Hey, Linus, it said that tech monopolies are bad. Do you think an argument can be made that TSMC's monopoly in the chip industry is good as it creates a silicon shield around one of the biggest tech centers in the world? Well, that silicon shield is going to be eroding over the next three to five years.
Starting point is 02:19:36 I mean, Intel and the US&A have made it very clear that they intend to bring cutting-edge semiconductor manufacturing onto U.S. soil in order to, as far as I can tell, and we're getting into geopolitics that are obviously more complicated than any of this, but to essentially, as far as I can tell, put themselves in a position where they don't have to defend Taiwan anymore. And so that if China ultimately decided, yoink, they could basically go, maybe we'll do something, but we don't have to do something. They're not quite a
Starting point is 02:20:14 monopoly. I mean, Samsung still does have fairly leading edge fab capabilities. And Intel obviously has fairly leading edge fab capabilities and seems to be determined to play some catch up here over the next little while but I would I would say that for the citizens of Taiwan absolutely the TSMC shield around their their island nation has been beneficial for everyone else though for the general consumer, I don't think it's beneficial to have a monopoly in any space. It's for the same reason that I would never argue that Linus Media Group Incorporated having a monopoly in tech benchmarking would be a good thing. You've always said that you should pull from multiple sources. Absolutely. It's the best thing for consumers.
Starting point is 02:21:03 Okay, I've got another one here from Kevin. Your quality products and great customer service or why I keep buying products question what's the most dangerous thing you've ever done life and limb oh I don't know I've done some pretty stupid stuff like why don't we limit it to just for work? I would say that the most dangerous. Oh my goodness. That time I did a flip off the fence with basically no training whatsoever. Oh yeah, that was pretty bad. That was really stupid.
Starting point is 02:21:37 Like I could have easily broken a leg, broken my neck. Why did we jump off fences so much? There was an era there where like every couple weeks we were jumping off of tall fences yeah i don't know i never thought about that before but that was totally a thing some of the stuff i pulled painting houses not properly harnessed just to like get that one thing like i would not do as an adult and I would absolutely like flip if I saw my kids doing, um, I,
Starting point is 02:22:06 I could have died many, many times on houses. Um, yeah, yeah. I'd say those are the most dangerous things I've ever done. I'll kind of do anything to get the job done when it comes to just like risking it for the biscuit,
Starting point is 02:22:18 man. Yeah. I mean, we're both sort of flawed that way. There's been an actually considerably large amount of times where I've been like, wow, if I was, you know, like a certain amount of inches to the left, I wouldn't be here anymore. There's been way too many of those.
Starting point is 02:22:40 And I wish I cared enough about them to remember them all but i honestly just don't i don't know man yeah okay let's move on it is what it is don't this is not a recommendation okay as we say not as we do yeah this one's from. Linus, Luke, some people hold on to their old game consoles for nostalgia, while others will sell their systems to help pay for a newer one. Which one are you? Sell. Sell? Have you ever sold a piece of technology that you later regret?
Starting point is 02:23:17 No, because you can always replace it. Okay, that's a lie. I wish I still had my ViewSonic P95F plus B, my old CRT monitor. That thing was sick. I mean, okay. No, no, that's a bad answer because things are definitely better now. There were times when I regretted it being gone,
Starting point is 02:23:33 but not really. It was heavy. I regret selling my Klipsch ProMedia Ultra 5.1 speakers. There. I regret selling those. Nothing has really moved into their space for high-end PC surround desktop speakers. Those things were flipping amazing.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Same with my Monsoon MM2000s. I would have kept those and not even bothered with the Klipsches if I had realized that they were going to be so impossible to replace. Is there anything that you've regretted getting rid of because like a game console so commodity i should have gotten rid of more things and i need to continue getting rid of more things um there's been times where i've regretted it there's been times where i got
Starting point is 02:24:16 rid of something too soon but it isn't that i should shouldn't have gotten rid of it eventually i just got rid of it too soon so there's been times where i like traded in games to try to get a new game or traded in a console with games to get the new console and less games or whatever um and there are times where my dad kind of like roasted me because he's like yeah you shouldn't have done that not because i shouldn't have done it at all but because again i did it i did it too early uh the logitech z680s were trash, by the way. I went from the Monsoons to the Logitech Z680s. I was so disappointed by the sound quality of the Logitech Z680s that I went and I turned around and I spent like twice as much of money. I did not have to get the Promedia Ultra 5.1s.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Actually, I think I might have gone with Gigaworks S700s first. And then I forget why I wasn't happy with those and then i ultimately settled on the clips for medias um all right hit me okay this one's from robert hi robert hi linus and luke finally catching you live from the uk oh wait i'm gonna interrupt for a second i kind of regret selling my first gen switch because it's like the moddable one and i mean with that said you can like you can buy them like i don't know that's the thing is like as a working adult um and storage is really expensive yeah it's it's often and like i don't even just mean personally like even for work a lot of the time even if it's something i think we could probably use again later i would rather
Starting point is 02:25:43 just sell it now let it depreciate in someone else's hands. And then if we need one again, we have a whole like procurement department now. Okay, get another one, eBay it. And then that way on the off, in the more likely scenario that we don't ultimately need one again. Hey, well, we have the money now.
Starting point is 02:26:01 My thing is like, I live in a small apartment. I can't keep all this stuff they actually can't there's enough room yeah it's not practical yeah okay sorry someone's from the uk robert something something uh well robert loves seeing you so excited over the chat gpt bing search my question is when you uh when were you last excited about a breakthrough in tech? Oh, well, VR was really exciting for me. Original chat GPT. Three weeks ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Yeah. I can almost remember it. Like it was, yeah. Check out LMG clips. Yeah, VR. I think it's the same, though. Either the original chat GPT launch or I was pretty jacked on
Starting point is 02:26:47 stereo 3D at the time I was jacked for where it was headed it was always too headache inducing with the shutter glasses I couldn't play with shutter glasses they hurt but I was jazzed for like stereo 3D to get
Starting point is 02:27:04 better and cheaper and then it just didn't really happen. Yeah. Okay, this one's from Stuart. Hey, Linus and Luke, finally buying merch to see if y'all are serious about quality. My question, what's the most obscure thing you keep on hand at all times? I still carry a 30-pin connector in my backpack, and it actually came in handy last week. I had a 30-pin in my backpack up until less than six months ago,
Starting point is 02:27:32 even though I haven't owned a product. I only ever owned one product that used that connector, an iPhone 4. I never had an iPod. I never, yeah, I just, that was the only, yeah. Okay. never had an ipod i never yeah i just that was the only yeah um okay we both still use the same headphone case to organize things i mine's broken it just broke and i lost my ie80s i don't know what happened i opened i opened up my case which i still have and sort of works on set recently and they just weren't in there i must've taken them out to like quickly something. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:28:09 And I didn't put them back in. So I need new headphones. That's a crazy end of an era. That was a long era. Had those forever. Yeah. And I like splurged on the inline mic cable from Sennheiser, like first party one
Starting point is 02:28:20 that actually had a decent mic. Like I hosted WAN show from that thing when I was in Hawaii. Yeah. Like from that headset. Maybe that's why I left it. I don't know. I'm frustrated though.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Are those the ones with the black and white like stripe cables? Maybe. I don't remember. Sorry. I don't think so. So sorry, you were going to say your weird headphone case? Well, it's just, it's obscure. We both have it.
Starting point is 02:28:45 Yeah, I guess so. It's this, like, weird SteelSeries headphone case that we both held onto for some reason. It's from their Flux series. Yeah, I don't think either of us actually use the headphones. But they have this little, like, pouch case. Yeah, this weird little pouch case. So, yeah, my headphones are not in here
Starting point is 02:29:06 but i have my usb-c to three and a half mil my lightning to three and a half mil and an extra pair of ear tips for the sennheiser ie80s even though my stupid headphones yeah mine has no longer in here old wired uh ear pods and then a few different adapter thingies, fairly similar setup. Other than that though, I don't know. Yeah, I don't have it on me right now, but I almost always have an ATX power supply pin depinning tool. Yeah. And a Molex depinning tool.
Starting point is 02:29:36 And man, that came in super handy in the Intel Arc Challenge because I needed to depin a PCIe connector and it uses the same size pins as a 24 pin, size pins as the four and the eight pin cpu connector so i almost always have one of those on me as well this is super not obscure but i carry a paper clip for a similar reason just so i can bridge power supplies one of the like actually just metal ones not coated with stuff yeah okay i've got one here from Taylor. If you could choose one modern item to bring back in time and give to people in the 16th century, what would it be and why?
Starting point is 02:30:12 That's very specific. One item. 16th century. Okay. Wow. And so I just give it to them? That's it? I would assume so.
Starting point is 02:30:28 What about something that could, like... Give to people. So you could, like, hand them out, I would assume. Condoms. Seriously, contraceptive. Like, do you know how much less prevalent, like, STIs would probably be today if people started using condoms, like, 400, 500 years ago? 16th century.
Starting point is 02:30:47 I think it would be like a not actually that advanced but still medical textbook. A textbook. That's a better answer. Because like you wouldn't want to bring like a phone because it's going to die.
Starting point is 02:31:01 Yeah, yeah. Or like a car or whatever. Yeah, like a... Yeah, a medical textbook. That's good. Good answer. I changed my answer to or whatever. Yeah, a medical textbook. That's good. Good answer. I changed my answer to medical textbook. Actually, I changed my answer to engineering textbook.
Starting point is 02:31:09 There. Cool. Okay. All right. Carry on. Chad's answers are amazing. What's the crop thing that changed the world? DDT.
Starting point is 02:31:22 I'm going to bring the Roundup. Oh, no. It just kills everything. DDT I'm gonna bring the Roundup This is This is This just kills everything Roundup, like a cocktail of Roundup And rat poison, just hope they don't drink it Roundup and condoms Cause man, people People consume some weird stuff
Starting point is 02:31:39 Like how did we ever discover cheese Oh there's a lot of I'm gonna eat this There's a lot of things down that rabbit hole like like freaking man is it is it like cottage cheese it's like someone's like yeah this has like been fermenting for months basically anything that's fermented it's like bro what the f**k were you thinking yeah what about that that puffer fish that like if, if you cook it incorrectly, you just die?
Starting point is 02:32:07 Yeah, yeah. It's like, why did you keep trying? Jeez. I don't know. Okay, this one's from David. Let me just catch my breath here. I sadly just barely missed out on the Labs and Office Tour add-on packs for LTX. Is there any chance you guys will open more spots?
Starting point is 02:32:27 We've talked about it. Colton and Chase want to try to open some more spots, but the reality of it is that there's a finite number of people that we can filter through here during that time, and we don't want the people who have purchased tours already to feel like they're being rushed, so we could just squeeze more money out of people people that's not the goal of ltx like we did we didn't have enough vip or like whale packages for the demand but if we triple the number of vip spots well then you're not really
Starting point is 02:32:57 very vip anymore are you right like it's got to be a limited number of people otherwise we can't really give them the attention that they need. So I don't think we're going to expand it a ton, but I do think they're going to try to offer some more. As for how they will dole those out, I have no idea. By the way, something you might want to look into is there's actually a bunch of people posting in Fliplane chat right now, recent videos that you wore the IE80s in.
Starting point is 02:33:21 I wore them while reacting to worst LTT videos. That's almost certainly when I lost it then. They might be in the couch. Goodbye. Do you want me to check? Oh, he's gone. Is there one that I can answer without Linus? I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:33:37 You want to keep it going? I might have already done it, unfortunately. Hi, Linus. Oh, there might be some in potential. Let's have a look. Yeah, I'm skipping through things as well. We'll find something. We'll find something.
Starting point is 02:33:50 I can answer this one. There's one in potential, I guess. Will there ever be another Scrapyard Wars? I'll put that as a probably not. There is none planned right now. I would say it's unlikely. I learned a long time ago that it's a little little bit of a danger noodle to be steadfast with certain things uh because the internet will try to
Starting point is 02:34:11 hold you to it um but i'll say yeah pretty hard probably not it's it kind of ran its course guys i i love it as well uh but we've kind of done everything that's going to be really interesting and we would pretty much have to change hosts because linus is way too recognizable um yeah it would it would just change a lot i've got one here that you could probably answer okay an add-on uh align your moral compass my wife works for kids help phone due to high demand they do not always get convos required recorded rec uh req do you think using a supervised ai chatbot will fill the gap would it be right and i had no idea yeah what is this thing even? Kids rec phone? What is that? It's a kids help phone.
Starting point is 02:35:07 It's kids help phone. Kids help phone. What is that though? I think that's like your child, you call the help phone and you get help or advice. Is it like, hello, I am in danger? I think so. Or is it like, hello, how do I make a peanut butter and jam sandwich? Confidential, anonymous, and free. sandwich uh confidential anonymous and free it's like online and telephone counseling and volunteer led text-based support in english yeah i don't think these technologies are ready for that yet
Starting point is 02:35:34 i uh the potential for harm there is extreme um so let's not. Let's take the money that we make with them and fund kids' help fund. Yeah, it seems like a good thing to fund. The reason why I'm kind of dragging here is because it seems not good to not answer them. But I wouldn't want to drive them down
Starting point is 02:36:00 the wrong path with an AI that's answering clearly. Maybe like a smart FAq where it could only spit out answers that were pre-written something like that no dice but i do think we're on the right track because i remember plugging into a splitter so that we could all use the same output and probably it's like still plugged into that sitting in like the writer's bin for that project when i was there was that that video no different video okay yep okay here's another one from adam heyo luke and happy friday what's your favorite feature of any car you've owned p.s any eta on the linus new car rep review veal reveal video. We shot it today.
Starting point is 02:36:45 Oh no. New rap. It's bad. There's a new rap. I saw it today. Did you write it? How bad is it? Oh no,
Starting point is 02:36:54 not that kind of rap. Like a vinyl rap. Oh, look how disappointed he is. I assure you. Genuinely so much less interesting. I assure you it's funnier than any rap that I would write. Are you sure? Do you think I would you it's funnier than any rap that I would write. Are you sure?
Starting point is 02:37:07 Do you think I would find it funnier? It's pretty bad. Okay. It is ridiculous. Okay, I'm a little excited then. Yeah. I would have been more excited if you wrote a rap. I wouldn't look at a place in this track suit with chains getting out of that car.
Starting point is 02:37:23 That's fun. Uh-huh. Is it like digital camo or something? You'll have to see it. I'll show you after. It's cringe. Yeah, anywho.
Starting point is 02:37:37 What were we talking about again? What's your favorite car feature? Oh, my favorite car feature of any car that you have owned. Probably the go pedal um why you got to be like an asshole about it just answer the question i've only owned two cars okay my dad drove a new yorker when i was a kid and every time we had one of those.
Starting point is 02:38:05 You're a New Yorker? You're a New Yorker enthusiast? A New Yorker Braham, 1972, I think it was. Okay, I had no idea how obscure and weird the cars my dad drove when I was a kid were. He also had an MG convertible. Whoa. White with the green stripe,
Starting point is 02:38:19 and I'm sitting here going, apparently that was a super cool car, and I just had no idea at the time. Anyway, my dad drove a New Yorker, and one of the features on it, so this is in the mid-90s, right? One of the features on it that just, early 90s maybe, that just tickled me so much. It was kind of way ahead of its time in a number of ways. It had a digital speedometer, for example, instead of like a needle, which blew my mind at the time. And it talked to you.
Starting point is 02:38:53 Okay? So if, for example, I got in and I didn't manage to get the door closed all the way, instead of beeping or like having a little light that flashed up, it had a voice that said a door is ajar and the first time i heard it it's one of those like childhood memories right the first time i heard it i i was with one of my friends okay axel if you're out there sup okay i was with one of my friends and we both just lost it of. A door's ajar. A door's a door, you dumb f***.
Starting point is 02:39:29 You have to. Because the first time you hear that, it sounds crazy. Yeah, of course. That totally makes sense. So that was, I mean, to call that my favorite feature of any car I've ever owned, I think would be a bit of a stretch.
Starting point is 02:39:42 Most amusing feature, maybe. But it's probably the one that I enjoyed the most in the moment um a door is a jar oh man oh i love it apparently like comedians have done bits on this and stuff okay i had no idea i thought i was just a you know eight-year-old being amused by my car um yeah i mean yeah, yeah, I missed my stick shift from my Civic, that's for sure. Not surprised. Man, I don't know. Android Auto is pretty great.
Starting point is 02:40:13 It's a really boring feature. Honestly, like car features. I do find it hilarious how you have trouble calling like Yvonne using your thing and my car has no problem calling anyone because it doesn't do any internet stuff yeah it's just local search whatever they had in 2009 can search my local directory faster and more accurately than google voice can which is so
Starting point is 02:40:40 funny like if I need to call my girlfriend it it's immediate. There's no messing around. Yes, I have to like either import it manually from my phone or enter it manually, which I never do. I just import it from my phone. But it still works. It imports from my modern phone properly. So like, I don't care. Through Bluetooth, everything like it's, I don't know, it's fine. I love the backup camera on my Volt.
Starting point is 02:41:02 It is so, so much better than the Taycan. It's so much better than the Odyssey. It's better than any other car that I have ever driven. It's just zero BS. I can always see out of it. The lines are actually accurate for where my wheels will go. And it is mind-blowing to me that other cars can't do it that well i mean honestly honestly how hard is it for you guys to do a calibration routine with the
Starting point is 02:41:34 car and be like okay wheel here this okay check i don't know pressure sensors on the floor whatever just guess and check for all i care but it should be accurate and like you know honestly the new the new car is like a mess the proximity sensors go off i have the proximity sensor go off like in traffic sometimes if i if i just i'm not i'm not that close chill brah there's a there's a comment in Fullplane chat from Necho Chuen. Oh, man. Sorry. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:42:10 That said, Luke's 2009 car is more advanced than my 2012 car. This was actually a problem. I don't know if you remember this. Maybe you do. We tried to do a progression of car technology video. Oh. And we were going to use. I vaguely remember that and we were going to use vaguely remember that we were going to use my car and we were working with a car manufacturer so that they could send us like
Starting point is 02:42:31 a equivalent tier car from them it was a different company though yeah and we were going to show them like look this it's been four years this is all the progression that has been made yeah cameras are better and this and that and like and it was worse in every measurable way and then mutually we just decided like i guess we won't do this video yeah that was amazing question mark and just moved on yeah that was it i don't know it was an equivalent to your car it was as expensive as if you bought the same model of my car but but new um just i don't know it was weird i was i was pretty as a as a like computer tech guy not a car tech guy i was pretty surprised um but since then i think things would get better yeah since then i am not as surprised. Now we know. Yep. Okay, this one here is from Ernest.
Starting point is 02:43:32 Hey, Linus, I know you're a water-cooling PC fan. If you ever made a water hardline toolkit, what would you include that current kits don't include or have? Huh. What would I include? Man, I don't include or have? Huh. What would I include? Man, I don't know. Like fittings that don't hurt your fingers when you're trying to do them up.
Starting point is 02:43:53 I don't think I have any brilliant ideas for that. I mean, honestly, I would try to avoid any bends whatsoever. You know what? Here, I would try to include this. I would love to, this is like so early that someone's going to, ah, it's a really good idea.
Starting point is 02:44:09 You know what, maybe I shouldn't talk about this. I decline to answer your question. I have a really good idea for a water cooling product, and it's the kind of thing that the smart business thing to do would probably be to design it, patent it release it it's a it's a pretty cool product idea and the idea it the the goal of it would be to make hardline water cooling a lot easier by simplifying the process of doing all the bends and cutting all the lengths i don't think it's something that someone else will do but if they do then great i'll just tell
Starting point is 02:44:41 you guys at the time but it's a it's a pretty solid idea and I've already sent it over to the Creator Warehouse team. Cool. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Try to be very open with you guys. Okay. This one's from Mark.
Starting point is 02:44:53 Maybe he'll answer this one. Thank you for your videos getting me into computers. I'm studying data science at the U.S. Air Force Academy and find military tech fascinating, especially fly-by-wire computers. Have you ever considered covering military tech on LTT, or if not, why not? It's hard. I mean, that's like the whole point. You want to check out a data center of PlayStations
Starting point is 02:45:15 in a shipping container? Well, okay. Like, it's tough. It's not designed to necessarily be cutting edge in the way that we think about things being cutting edge. It's cutting edge, and this will definitely still be working if it's buried in mud for six months and someone walks along and picks it up and is the person who's supposed to be using it. Like it's a really different kind of design intent, military technology, and any of the stuff that really is like cutting edge the way we would think about it in terms of processing power yeah i would have absolutely no access to whatsoever
Starting point is 02:45:49 and if i did they'd have to kill me so uh there's just not really much for us to say or it'll end up on the war thunder forums yeah or that yeah if you want if you want to follow it just hang out on the war thunder forums there. There was someone who tweeted, oh, no, I don't even want to talk about this. Okay. Okay, I'll interrupt you with another question. This one's from Weston. Hey, Linus and Luke,
Starting point is 02:46:12 been loving the videos dash wan lately with so many businesses moving online these days. Do you think brick and mortar tech stores are a thing of the past or is there still a need for these establishments? Oh, absolutely. You still need brick and mortar, right are a thing of the past, or is there still a need for these establishments? Oh, absolutely. You still need brick and mortar, right? Retail foot traffic has increased double-digit percentage.
Starting point is 02:46:30 People want to see things before they buy, and more importantly, I think people want that instant gratification. Like, I wanted an addressable RGB strip for some reason, and I was super frustrated that I couldn't just like go and buy it. And okay, something that that I'm doing right now is I want to paint my helmet and my bike to match. And I didn't want to I didn't want to just like learn about paint
Starting point is 02:46:57 online and order something online and hope that it's good. I wanted a personal touch. So I found a local like automotive paint supplier, went in, they were super nice and talked to me and explained stuff. And they mixed up some samples for me free of charge so that I could play around with them in the gun and kind of see what I like and see what works and what doesn't. And that's just something
Starting point is 02:47:16 that you're not gonna get online. Even with really good online customer service, you can't have that immediate back and forth this this is from the previous topic and i'll jump back on what you just said in a second but uh gibberim in floatplane chat said i work in a defense contracting company in the last year i designed a new 1394b aka firewire board yeah yeah it's not necessarily it's a different kind of a thing. But yeah, I don't know. I like brick and mortar as well.
Starting point is 02:47:49 If I have a brick and mortar option, I'll pretty much always take it. One of my issues with brick and mortar as it is right now, when there's something that I haven't bought a lot of, I don't know where to go. Yeah, it's tough. Like just random like household things. Yeah. Where do you go for like a whisk? I don't know where to go. Yeah, it's tough. Like just random like household things. Yeah, where do you go for like a whisk? Exactly.
Starting point is 02:48:09 Yeah, not Williams-Sonoma, I'll tell you that much. I don't even know what that is. Yeah, I talked about it on WEN Show recently, but it was the place that we got the blender from for our wedding that we went in. I remember that. Like, you know, $400 and walked out with like some cookie cutters and like.
Starting point is 02:48:22 Yeah, I know the blender story. Yeah, for me, traditionally, I've always gone to like, what is it? Just like Shoppers Drug Mart. Oh yeah, Canadian Tire. Yeah, just go to Canadian Tire. Yeah, but there's stuff other... And it's like seasonal too.
Starting point is 02:48:34 It's like, no, but I want that now. And it's like, oh, well, you know, it's hot now, but you know, it will be cold soon. So we don't have any of those anymore. Okay, I mean mean i get it but oh you want a pitcher well we only carry those in the summer because people make more pitcher drinks in the summer i guess no i need a pitcher now yeah yeah yeah yeah all right zealous apparently it is coming back actually i know again yeah it doesn't need to come back no
Starting point is 02:49:04 it really just like target didn't need to come here. We don't have a shortage of places where you can get random household appliances, or not appliances, but random housewares for not even great prices. We're good. It's like Canada is not some wasteland with no options for getting a whisk. We have a lot fewer, but they exist. Yeah, they're there. Just because Luke can't find them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Oh, 100%. The guy doesn't know how to buy things. Big surprise. He doesn't buy things. Yes. I could find a whisk. Yeah. This is the problem.
Starting point is 02:49:39 Like, I'm not trying to cover it up as something else. I don't know where to go. All right. I've actually been like musing about this idea and I'm not going to make it because I know I'm the only one that would benefit from it. But like some type of thing where it's like, I want this thing to tell me
Starting point is 02:49:59 where I can buy this type of item in my local area. Yeah, I think that'd be super cool. Like I want a brick and mortar alternative. Top Gear 1224 says, hey, you need to be nice to Target Canada. It was a vibe. Yeah, the issue with Target Canada is I think the same issue
Starting point is 02:50:13 that almost everyone who's tried to come up into Canada, maybe Home Depot and Walmart were reasonably successful, is they come up here going like, we can bring the, well, they just like bought out FutureShop. Like, I don't know. I feel like-
Starting point is 02:50:28 Competition delete. Yeah. FutureShop kind of like made their own grave by just not adapting. But I feel like a lot of the more like commodity stores that have tried to come up here and compete have assumed that they can, you know, bring their supply chain management and their economies of scale into Canada and it'll work just as well as it does in the US. But the issue is that if you come in with this strategy of like building mega stores and, you know,
Starting point is 02:50:58 trying to just like leverage economies of scale, you're going to run into problems because Canada logistically is really different from the US. We're enormous. The population is spread out extremely, extremely far, but like horizontally essentially, but then you still, you know, when you look at this population number, if you want to access it, you actually have to like spread out a lot, even though it's in this like tiny strip, like right along the border. And then the big thing is that it's not very much like there's more people living in the state of California than there are in the entire country of Canada.
Starting point is 02:51:33 And so what works there where you just plunk down a big box store like, man, the foot traffic in micro center when I was down there blew my mind. I'm thinking, how many, how are there this many people who need a computer right now like just just blew me away that concept genuinely confused me for a really long time i would see certain stores how does fries electronics exist i would see certain stores and movies and my american friends would talk about going to certain stores and i'd be like how do they pay the rent like how is there enough people shopping from here and i was just like oh so what happens is they come up here and figure out oh holy crap our overhead is like really high and the volumes are really low uh so while we identified this potential for us to come in and undercut these canadian idiots who are charging so much actually in order for us to survive here we have to charge the same amount that they do because everything costs so much to operate here.
Starting point is 02:52:27 Oh, like Newegg. If NCIX hadn't completely eaten its own tail, Newegg's Canadian launch was disastrous. It was terrible. They just had no idea what they were doing. Can you ask... Too soon, Fries. Sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 02:52:40 Can you ask Bing Chat? Oh, sure. Where to buy a whisk in like Cloverdale or something? Or something like that. I don't know. Let's go with spatula. Sure. A spatula.
Starting point is 02:52:57 Where's a good place to buy a spatula near me? Near me. Does it have location services? I don't know. Let's find out. Yeah. Let's go. And I don't move around locations literally on google i have searched the web you could go to walmart canada which has a variety of kitchen spatulas and different sizes shapes and materials
Starting point is 02:53:17 another option is the home depot huh okay i guess really home depot spatulas would it be like plaster spatulas or like barbecue oh no okay look at that there... Really? Home Depot spatulas? Wouldn't it be like plaster spatulas? Or like barbecue. Oh, no. Okay. Look at that. There's a whole pack of spatulas for $29 available for pickup. Yep. There you go. All right. One thing to note is both of these shops now do online and have it shipped to store. Free delivery on orders over $49. You can pick up your order at a nearby store.
Starting point is 02:53:47 But if you wanted one tonight, they might not have it at the store. Yeah. So you couldn't just go there. It also picks two gigantic chains and didn't find any of the smaller, more interesting shops. Tres Interessants.
Starting point is 02:54:01 All right, hit me. Okay. Oh, those are incoming. Hold on. All right, hit me. Okay. Those are incoming. Hold on. This is from Jacqueline. Does AMD sponsorship for Ultimate Tech Upgrade mean upgrade recipients won't be able to pick NVIDIA GPUs anymore? Or will it just be that one of the components must be AMD? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:54:22 That's a good question, and I will have to get an answer for you on that maybe in one of the videos. I mean, I guess you'll see if there's an NVIDIA GPU. I wouldn't blame AMD if they were like, hey, we'd really prefer if you use Radeon GPUs. Yeah, I wouldn't either, to be honest. But also, I think that giving them too much influence over the part selection is going to hurt the integrity of the project. Like with Intel, the only requirement was that we had to use some Intel something. So hopefully we've negotiated a similar deal.
Starting point is 02:54:52 So I guess we'll have to see. Okay, this one's from Trevor. Hey Linus, just wanted to say I've been a huge fan since about 2012 to 2013 and I'm snatching up the track suit right now. Nice. Do you have any other plans for different color schemes such as white as the main color and black stripes um i think we'd like to do other color schemes but that's going to be dependent on the success of the you know the classic black
Starting point is 02:55:15 with the white stripe okay got one here from anonymous this one's kind of yeah i don't think the other ones would sell anywhere near as well i I want the white to be LTT orange. Yeah, like that one might do okay. But I would hazard against making too many of them personally. Okay, I've got one here from Anonymous. I could see us doing limited edition ones once in a while or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that we've got the pattern all sorted out.
Starting point is 02:55:42 Same material as the gold plushie. Or you could do the white becomes what you wrapped your car in. Now that we've got the pattern all sorted out. Same material as the gold plushie. Or you could do the white becomes what you wrapped your car in. Oh, you haven't seen it yet. Yeah, no, I haven't. No. Okay. I want a gold plushie tracksuit.
Starting point is 02:55:56 I like gold. All right, keep it going. All right, going here from Anonymous. You mentioned the celebrity component of your life. Do you agree with the anecdotal story about Eminem who made a statement to his daughter's high school that when he was at school he was Marshall but if he's outside, he's Eminem. Please respect that.
Starting point is 02:56:14 I don't even know what he's talking about. I get it. Like, in what way? He wants to be referred to as Marshall. He doesn't want to be known as his artist's handle when he's dealing with his child's education. He's't want to be known as his artist's handle when he's dealing with his child's education. He's a dad at school and outside. Oh, I kind of thought it was
Starting point is 02:56:30 like the other way around. I thought he's like, if you see me outside, call me Eminem. Respect that. I thought it was the... Sorry, I see what you mean now. I thought it was like the other way and I'm sitting here going like That was weird. Who cares? If you know people personally and you see them outside of that context in which you know them
Starting point is 02:56:48 what you all of a sudden you're not on a first name basis anymore that was the way i took it and that's probably not right trying to be professional it makes sense to me okay i think it would be a little weird if like the teacher of my child was like yo slick yeah no yeah that's not cool no yeah yeah yeah yeah no yeah that that's not cool. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, that makes total sense to me. I've never really had to deal with that. Well, your name is the company name, so it would be impossible.
Starting point is 02:57:13 Mr. Tips? Well, no, I don't even mean... When I'm talking to you at school, you call me Linus. When you see me out on the street, you also call me Linus. Yes, thank you for that. Please respect that.
Starting point is 02:57:19 Thank you for that. He talks just like that. I mean more in terms of like don't do interpretations you should hear like my my mom impersonations but yes what did i say interpretations i'm interpreting for you i'll do interpretations that was much more like it yeah um it's late man whatever yeah i i've never really run into a situation where like a teacher or anything dealing with my kids really knows who i am yet so i guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it yeah but i would yeah i would expect them to just call me linus and treat me totally normally
Starting point is 02:58:03 I would expect them to just call me Linus and treat me totally normally. That's what I would hope for. Okay, and this last one's from Ryan before we move on to potentials. Any updates on Luke's crowbar? Do you know the update? I know an update. I don't know if I can say it, though. I actually don't think I can.
Starting point is 02:58:25 The update is that Nick has forbidden me to talk about the coal bar. He has forbidden me. Oh, get owned. Yeah. Are you allowed to talk about the coal bar? I don't know, but I presume the information that I currently know I would not be allowed to talk about. Uh, can you mute us for a second?
Starting point is 02:58:40 Oh, that's dangerous. No, no, we got this. I can just hold on until I pick up the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We, no, we got this. I can just hold on until I pick up the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got this. We got this. Wow, I don't like this. yeah yeah nick and i broing out talking about it that was oh i see but like okay well um i will have to check in with mr nick light and i would except that i accidentally left my phone uh on with team viewer open and my battery drained because my screen didn't dim
Starting point is 02:59:39 and so my phone is dead um so i can't call him now do you want me to call him I mean sure but let's do both of those things Dan do you mind throwing my phone on the charger thank you and Luke yeah I mean it's pretty late oh whatever he's not going to be asleep bro's a gamer
Starting point is 02:59:59 get real podcast with no sound is going to be interesting says AJ in the floatplane chat uh okay yeah hello hi this is luke hi luke what's going on uh we're on web show der wow wow wow hey um so the good interpretation so anyway um the peeps asked for an update on the coal bar and luke wasn't sure if he's allowed to share what you told him so like does he have a sign off on that or like where are we at on that uh we're talking to them
Starting point is 03:00:53 that's about all we can say okay all right okay thanks okay bye-bye okay um you you have a wonderful evening oh hey you too enjoy the show oh Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. This is this is WAN show after dark, baby. Yeah, this seems to be going very well. Gone sexual. Okay, goodbye. Okay, goodbye. There you have it. One Mr. Nick
Starting point is 03:01:18 Light has not given us the go-ahead to talk about any of that. All right, Dan, hit us. Yeah, I thought that was the case. Okay, we're into potentials now. Billy is asking All right, Dan, hit us. Yeah, I thought that was the case. Okay, we're into potentials now. Billy is asking, Hey, Luke, Linus, and Dan, what is everyone's favorite slash dream car?
Starting point is 03:01:31 Will we get a video on Linus' new car? I liked the Ramek Navara until I found out Andrew Tate had one. Now I'm just like, well, apparently that's a car for douchebags.
Starting point is 03:01:43 And this is coming from someone sitting here in a track suit, exercising with a wrapped car you made that i made it's not just your track suit it's your track suit i actually can't remember the exact name of it but i think i showed you it because i like thought it was cool in forza oh yeah, yeah. I actually remember this interaction, but I do not remember the car. No, and I'm not going to remember it either. I didn't expect you to remember it, to be clear. Just go with something cool like a 94 Dodge Viper.
Starting point is 03:02:14 A 94 Dodge Viper. Now, if we're going like retro, it was always the Super B. Charger Super B. Loved that car. But I mean, it's kind of a boat, so it would probably kind of suck to drive around these days. I want a Corolla GR if there was a car that I'd love to just rip around in these days.
Starting point is 03:02:36 That would be sick. I always thought the NSX was pretty cool. Chris McWinney brings up a good point. Andrew Tate doesn't have any cars now, so... Free game! He thought it brings up a good point. Andrew Tate doesn't have any cars now, so. Free game! Well, he thought it was cool at one point. Does that ruin it? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 03:02:52 I can run at 3,200 megahertz. It says, slav culture is not douchey. Not everyone who wears a tracksuit is a slav, and plenty of people who wear tracksuits are douchey. We're not drawing overlapping circles here is my point. There's tracksuit stereotypes that are far outside of
Starting point is 03:03:11 Slavic countries. And that have nothing to do with Slav culture. Yeah. The pictures on the LTT store were definitely fairly pointed in that direction. But not all of them. I think that was just people having fun with it though. Okay, next one here's from Annette. Pouring one out for Brandon.
Starting point is 03:03:28 Nearly 10 years. Linus and Luke what were your favorite memories with B-Roll Man? Oh, that's tough. I mean, one that comes to mind as I think of one, they're like starting to hammer it. Yeah, they're like... Starting to hammer it.
Starting point is 03:03:45 Yeah, they're coming fast, right? While you think about that, we had a lunch to talk about it on the day that he departed. And I was good, man. I showed up in high spirits and we were joking the whole time and everything was all positive and everything was good. And then he made his tweet about how he was leaving. I was like, I should probably respond to this and then i like didn't for a while then i finally was like okay i need to respond to this i think so i started trying to dig through old photos and that started to hit pretty hard i didn't cry until right before um wanshow and it was like the last time i'd see him in uniform you know like he didn't have a uniform but like it was the end of the day i think it does help that when we met up on his last day
Starting point is 03:04:35 it was like outside of work yeah if i had to see him like leave the building that would probably be yeah well that's pretty big yeah he was on his way out the door. Yeah. And it didn't help that when I walked out, Yvonne's face was already like tear-stained. And I was like, uh-oh, it's goodbye time. Yeah. Man, what is there to... I know what mine is. Yeah, what is there to not reflect on?
Starting point is 03:05:01 I mean, how about that wild... I don't know, like, you know, it could be. I can throw mine if you need time to think. I don't know. It's probably easier for me to just verbal diarrhea them out, right? Because, like, you know, I remember him. is like, you know, I remember him, I remember so many times telling him to stop bringing his own equipment to work and him insisting because he just wanted things to be better.
Starting point is 03:05:32 You know, I remember the first time he worked with us, just clearly thinking we had no idea what we were doing, but putting up with us anyway. He like didn't even get paid for it. He was considered OG, even though he didn't start working here till four or five months in because he actually officially did yeah do something for us before the company formally started working um i'll always remember uh the
Starting point is 03:05:57 fight he had with me when i like tried to get him to stop at seven b-roll shots like back in the langley house and he was like no it needs more it has to be better i'm like dude it's like 7 30 and like tara needs to go home he's editing this video he can't leave till it's done that you have to stop shooting you know like i remember those marathon build guide shoots man it was always me and branded just marathon build guide shoots we would start as early as we could and we would end when we, when it ended, um, you know,
Starting point is 03:06:27 this, the, the late nights, you know, just chatting on trips. Like we, we traveled the world together, right? Like that's something that,
Starting point is 03:06:35 um, is a little different from, I think most coworker interactions. Um, yeah, I love Brandon forever. Like there's no, there's no HR response here
Starting point is 03:06:46 like we're good don't worry and if anything I hope we get closer that can happen that can happen sometimes I'm not saying anything that I haven't already said to him
Starting point is 03:06:58 personally like I'm not just trying to you know make a video about it or whatever I wasn't really even going to bring it up just because like our official policy is that we don't really even going to bring it up just because our official policy
Starting point is 03:07:07 is that we don't really acknowledge this stuff anymore. We don't talk about HR-related issues. But Brandon's not a human resource. Brandon's more of a friend. And I don't mean that personally for anyone else. I'm not saying you're not a friend. I'm just saying that as a founding member of the company, I think it's probably okay for me to acknowledge his departure.
Starting point is 03:07:28 Yeah. There's certain things that get, when you're literally day zero, there's certain things that are a little special. Yeah. Mine is the first Computex trip because I like knew Brandon, but at the first Computex trip, the B team was formed.
Starting point is 03:07:48 The B team. Which was like, and that was, that was a... Sorry, we did actually call them the B team. Yeah, well, it's basically on that, that was still when things were, things have been sink or swim quite a few times,
Starting point is 03:08:01 but that was when it was like... It was scary. Sink or swim quite a few times, but that was when it was like, it was scary sink or swim. And you have lots of added weight stangling from you. Um, and I had barely hosted anything. Yeah. Like you're kind of thrown to the wolves,
Starting point is 03:08:17 but I was stuck. I had to do all those stupid sponsored things for WD. Yeah. Like it was, it was a really rough trip. I had never done a show of any kind and I had basically never hosted anything um most of my experience at that point
Starting point is 03:08:32 was WAN show which is pretty much as far away from live content as you could possibly get but I had been around this guy for a while and like I don't know whatever and Linus was like all right it's Linus and Edsel versus Luke and Brandon. And that was probably the smartest thing you could have done at that point in time. Because he made it like this war. And I was like, well, f*** this. It's Brandon and I. We have to figure this out.
Starting point is 03:08:56 We have to do this well. And like, no one knows who the hell I am. So I'm just showing up to booths being like, I swear I'm a part of this channel. Can we please make these videos and brandon completely matched my energy and i know i can be like a little hardcore sometimes so when people do match my energy it's really uncommon that a bond is not formed yeah um and he matched my energy then and then matched my energy every single time we ever did a road trip for the many years beyond there and we like were the road team at one point in time we're the only people that did remote coverage unless it was like
Starting point is 03:09:36 something really special um and that was like i don't know just brandon and i did everything together for a long time yeah i think one of the reasons why the closure is probably easier for me is my kind of departure to float plane was kind of the disconnection of that team already. You left him. He didn't leave you. Basically, yeah. Well, yeah. So like, yeah. No, Brandon did not die.
Starting point is 03:10:03 He's alive and very well thriving yeah all right i don't know what to follow that with um that was something a little bit lighter hold on one sec what if i derail us back to the dock for a quick second because people keep on shouting out that we've missed a topic um oh yeah yeah, we missed a boring one, I think. What about the underwear topic? Oh. We never talked about it. We didn't talk about that.
Starting point is 03:10:34 Yeah. The audience is right. Surely this would have secured the deal. Went home with a guy, and he was wearing Linus Tech Tips underwear. Help. Apparently Leeds Fess is a group for anonymous admissions for the University of Leeds where an unknown lady and or gentleman stumbled upon some sweet LTT merch. This was reposted to the LTT Reddit.
Starting point is 03:11:07 There's some great comments. Did he drop you? Should have abruptly ended the date with, that's cute. Just like this message from our sponsor. What was the question that we had around this? Oh, yes. Discussion question.
Starting point is 03:11:23 Thank you, Wanshow Writer. Will LTT merch get you laid yes or no given our audience demographics i think if you are attract given audience demographics if you are a fan of the show, and you are attracted to males, probably. Yeah. Outside of that, maybe not. One thing that I find is interesting
Starting point is 03:11:54 is they recognize it clearly. Yeah. So that's the thing. That part has been interesting to me the whole time. They were jealous. And they like read it. Right mean i guess so it's on the waistband though the new ones are just in like a oh well okay they didn't say if it was the ones with the text across the waistband or if it was one the newer ones that just have the symbols are
Starting point is 03:12:20 more taste rubber stamp yeah um should we pull it it is pulling our our audience which is not you know entirely fair but i think we should do it anyways would you be what so what is the question are you more turned on if they have line executives underwear sure yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what i think that's what we need to know I think that's what we need to know. Uh-oh. N50MN14C in floatplane chat says, I mean, my wife knows who you guys are.
Starting point is 03:12:56 So who was she with then? Oh, shoot. What time did I set for that? Are you more trying? Okay, well, here well here let's just let's see the results of the poll i mean yeah see for our audience that's what i was saying yeah yeah 65 more turned on if they have ltd underwear absolutely okay so you heard it here first folks um ltd underwear more likely to turn someone on. If they're also in LCT. Well, yes, but I mean, that's fine. Yeah, why not? You already know you have so much in common.
Starting point is 03:13:33 Yeah. All right. Next message, Dan. Sure. This is from Ryan. Hey, Linus and Luke, a longtime fan of the show from the Langley House days. What is the one place you haven't traveled to yet that you really want to? I want to go to Australia. I want to go scuba diving in Australia.
Starting point is 03:13:56 That sucks because that was literally my exact answer. God, if you could go together. Yeah. Including the scuba thing. I don't think we've, have we? I don't think we dived in Mexico together together yeah we did i went with dennis oh i was a layer higher oh that's right you couldn't have my cert yeah i remember i do now but i didn't back so you were there but we didn't go together yeah you yeah like the lame one your version was not as I watched you guys have fun. Yeah We really did it was great
Starting point is 03:14:31 It was good enough that it inspired me to like go get my sense and stuff because I would I enjoyed my experience And was able to see you guys having more fun, so I was like well, okay Might as well get my stuff our dive was a lot better. Yeah well okay might as well get my stuff yeah our dive was a lot better yeah yeah cool um diving with dennis as my dive partner a little scary he can be very competent though yes but sometimes he can not i think i've told this story before yeah there was a trip i think was it that first computex trip? I don't know. I don't remember.
Starting point is 03:15:08 No, it must have been the second one. But Brandon and I went to Taiwan and Dennis was there, but he didn't work with us yet. And this was the first time I had met him. And then when he came to work with us locally in BC, I genuinely had a like, what? This was the first time I had met him. And then when he came to work with us locally in BC, I genuinely had a like, what? Seemed like a totally different person.
Starting point is 03:15:33 I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what it is. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know. All right. We have like a new version of Dennis. You haven't dodged the question though. Oh, so I can't say Australia scuba diving?
Starting point is 03:15:46 I mean, you can, but it's like... A bit of a cop-out. Man. I already did Japan. I've been quite privileged through work because I've gone to a lot of the places that I wanted to go. I always wanted to go to Taiwan. I always wanted to go to Japan. Do you want to do South America at all?
Starting point is 03:16:01 What about somewhere unconventional like Antarctica? I'm interested in Antarctica. I've been interested in southern chile okay because there's some like really interesting hiking that's there yeah um i've been to a bunch of the nordics i've been to iceland yeah i don't know all right that's fine's fine. I give up. Okay, Dan, hit us. Okay. This one is from Chidring. Hi, Linus and Luke. Love from Taiwan and the... Oh, you moved it.
Starting point is 03:16:33 Love from Taiwan and the Saturday morning. What's your fondest memories visiting Taiwan? Any food or places that you wish to eat or go again? Soup dumplings. Let's go. Oh, and playing badminton. My last trip there i played seven times in six days i went hard and shot videos that was basically all i did i worked
Starting point is 03:16:52 and played badminton i remember this i absolutely love taiwan um ever since the first time we went there i've pretty much taken a week off every single time i've gone there um to like just hang out there a little bit longer uh fondest memories i don't know there's a lot going river tracing in hualien i'm sure i butchered that yeah that was probably awful but it's in eastern taiwan um but going river tracing there was absolutely amazing um and yeah i'll just stick with that one. Do you want a minute to go through those, or should I pick off some more? No, just start picking them. I don't care. Luke can pick them. This one's from Ryan.
Starting point is 03:17:34 Yo, so happy this was released. I'm going to use this as the Pokemon playmat. Stealth desk pad? I think so, yeah. What is a product slash video that you are proud to have worked on that doesn't get enough attention? You know what's a really cool video that doesn't get enough,
Starting point is 03:17:52 that didn't get enough attention? The one on the future of display technology that James wrote a while back. The reason it's on my mind is because someone specifically flagged it for me saying, wow, this was like a really great video. And I sent it to him because he was so discouraged
Starting point is 03:18:05 that he spent a ton of time making it not just really informative, but super engaging to watch. And it really didn't perform very well on the channel. So there, I'm going to go with that one. Float plane. Wow. That one hits. I'm just going to avoid that.
Starting point is 03:18:29 This one's from Will. Long time watcher, first time merch message. I'm excited for the tracksuit, desk pad, et al. Also excited to see how ML slash chatbot assisted search is going to change how people operate on the internet. What do you think is going to be the largest cultural change to come from it well we're all gonna interact with chats instead of you know with like seo optimized boolean you know whatever there's been this whole conversation about how we are all to a
Starting point is 03:18:58 certain degree cyborgs due to our phones have you heard this yep um i think a really large extension of that has been search search i think in more ways than people like actively consciously realize has shaped how people interact the modern world even if your search is this thing whatever reddit or this thing whatever tiktok because you don't trust Google to give you the right result anymore, which is like actually a problem. But even with that, it shapes how people research or look into things, which is genuinely an extremely significant part of what people do to like grow in almost any way and changing that is going to be wildly impactful i've got one for you dan oh you are gonna make me talk about this aren't you i saw
Starting point is 03:19:53 it coming i thought i would include it hi linus luke and particularly dan why is there always such strong pushback anytime a go xlr gets mentioned to try to fix the audio and sensor button issues control it's just control it's fine i will throw some pushback against this personally fine my go xlr bricked itself almost immediately upon getting to my house i contacted their support and they're like wow never seen this before and they sent me a new one to be clear i don't know if they knew who i was or not i didn't reach out on official handles sure but, to be clear. I don't know if they knew who I was or not. I didn't reach out on official handles. Sure. But my name was there.
Starting point is 03:20:28 Okay. I don't know if they figured it out or not, but they immediately sent me a new one. It then works. But, you know, if it loses power randomly, the profile's just gone. That's true. That is a flaw.
Starting point is 03:20:41 Why? I don't know. If we lose power during the show and that uh like i have my profiles backed up on my nose so maybe you should just get good crazy and you shouldn't i blame luke is there i don't think that if it loses power it's like blaming microsoft because you forgot to press ctrl s that's. You should be able to do that. It has an autosave feature. So one thing that drives me crazy about it is that its physical buttons are basically just for show.
Starting point is 03:21:15 Because if it loses its memory, it's like, okay, but all your stuff is where it was before. You should be able to detect where it was. It's not perfect. Yeah, it's not perfect yeah it's not perfect yeah and and one of the reasons that i like this up as well is you know i had to meet you guys right and so what you guys could do for your mutes is pull all the faders down and then when you were unmuted you know i got to bring them back up and they need to be at the same level you know this is it's all set and it's kind of set it and forget it kind of thing. I mean, it wasn't for a long time. It wasn't for a long time.
Starting point is 03:21:46 Which is why I kept bringing it up, but okay. Yeah, Luke fixed that, actually. It's been pretty good the last two shows, and the last two shows since he's had time. I have some incredibly complex audio routing going on behind the scenes to make sure that you can monitor what you need to monitor. What goes out to stream is different uh and if we have guests on they can hear you but you can't hear you even though it's in the same computer it's like i have five or six different mixes and submixes and then i also have a completely separate submix for me to
Starting point is 03:22:17 be able to monitor what's going out to stream um so we don't have those echo issues anymore because unlike obs i can now actually monitor the audio that's going out to stream. Yeah, more control, more better, more simpler. It has to get more complicated to get simpler. GoXLR is great. The bleep button was incredibly irritating for a long time for me. This new system is very robust. And what it also does is it mutes all the other microphones so when
Starting point is 03:22:46 Linus is swearing you can't get the swear underneath the bleep from Luke or my microphone that sort of thing I don't know there's a little explanation I could probably talk about it for an hour yeah that won't be necessary
Starting point is 03:23:01 at me goodbye just disappears himself beautiful Yeah, that won't be necessary. At me. Goodbye. Just disappears himself. Beautiful. DJ Music Studio asks, ever since your photo shoot, I've been looking for a good epilator. Do you have any good tech suggestions for them? I trust your opinion more than Bing. No, I don't have a suggestion for a good one. I'm not that pleased with the one I have, and I've only tried one.
Starting point is 03:23:24 So that's where we're at on that archived and finally last two kyle asks can we get an update on the gold paint fading issue on the water bottles i'm hoping to pick up a new one soon but the colors i want i'll use the gold paint uh they they fade if you have acid hands they will fade pretty quickly and if you do not then they actually last quite a long time. But it seems to be kind of luck of the draw and whether your particular composition of skin oils is going to wear it away. We just basically have a disclaimer on the page that says, hey, yeah, these inks just don't last as long. So there's that. And finally, Daniel P asks, as a fellow creator, I would like to know the rationale for why so is banned. What other thing have you banned and what habits have been hard to change? So is banned because it contributes absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 03:24:19 Try it. Start a sentence with the word so. Just try it. Do it right now. I'll wait. So what do you think about airplane peanuts? Okay. Now say that same sentence again without the word so.
Starting point is 03:24:31 What do you think about airplane peanuts? It contributed absolutely nothing. So it's banned. Which doesn't mean that we can never use it. Obviously in the middle of a sentence, so is fine. mean that we can never use it obviously in the middle of a sentence so is fine um and there are even situations where we will use it at the beginning of a sentence or beginning of a paragraph but it has to be in the place of a word like therefore not just as a filler a lot of times people will just put so at the beginning of like every single paragraph
Starting point is 03:25:07 it's like well that is definitely not necessary so i went to the store so here's the thing so i just don't know it's not it's not helpful and one of the big things that we try to do especially in our in our writing here not necessarily in our lives we don't script the wancho he can say so it's banned yeah yeah um one of the things that we do in our writing is we try to make the videos as information dense as possible so filler words stuff and things so they all need to go because we're trying to make the video as dense as possible. Hi, Tynan. And like is never going anywhere.
Starting point is 03:25:58 That's just part of my completely irremovable part of my personality at this point. And I think that's pretty much it for the show today. Wow. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. That was a long show. A little long.
Starting point is 03:26:21 A little on the long side. I blame you. Four hours and 19 minutes? Oh, we need to go for another 40 seconds. Oh, that includes the pre-show. Okay. Well, for the float plane peeps.

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