The WAN Show - Our Sponsor Went Bankrupt... - WAN Show March 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, how are you all doing ladies and gentlemen? I hope you're having a wonderful Friday night or Well, it could be Saturday morning by this point. We're a little late, but I assure you it was for a very good reason We had the one and only David Gauthier one of our camera operators who had a little Problem, okay His problem was that he had five thousand,000 to spend from our sponsor Intel, and he decided to spend it in the most time-consuming way possible. He was not content to just, you know, get a gaming rig and a monitor and a new TV like Riley, or to get a massager and an editing station and a desk like Dennis. No, no. David needed to upgrade his
Starting point is 00:00:50 water-cooled rig with an RTX 3080, and then he needed to build a new rig, a NAS, a network attached storage device with lots of hard drives and storage that was also water-cooled. hard drives and storage that was also water cooled. So today I performed maintenance on one water cooled computer involving installing a new GPU and adding a radiator and built an entirely scratch built water cooled machine for his network attached storage. He also changed out his desk, got a TV that needed to be wall mounted.
Starting point is 00:01:24 It was an absolute nightmare and his living room looks like a bomb in it. I've got some stories that I'm going to upload to YouTube stories. It is hilarious. Anyway, we have got a great show for you tonight, ladies and gentlemen. We've actually got a lot of really good topics to talk about, starting, of course, with one of our sponsors declaring bankruptcy, Shadow. The game streaming service has declared bankruptcy. They want to go through a little reorganization to free themselves from the debt that is holding them back. They've got a little transition period going on. We're going to talk about that. In other big news, OVH's data center was destroyed in a fire. This is a very unusual event for something of this magnitude to take place.
Starting point is 00:02:14 And can I take a moment and just give a little golf clap, okay, to the Flowplane team? Because Flowplane.com experienced... No problemos. Sorry? No problemos yeah experienced basically no interruption in spite of the fact that we did have metal in that data setting pretty sweet right what else we got luke um i took the good stuff hey i'm gonna you did i'm gonna decide this is an important topic because I'm actually pretty interested. You're buying stuff at a pretty high bounty,
Starting point is 00:02:48 three times the current retail price. A bunch of SSDs. Do you have one? Could you make a ton of money and replace with a new drive your current SSD? We'll find out more later. Also, Microsoft officially acquires Bethesda. I know we talked about this like a while ago, but it's like it's legit now.
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's actually happening. It's real. It's not like NVIDIA acquiring ARM, where basically the entire industry wants it to not happen. And every regulatory body wants it to not happen. Yeah. This is different. This is real. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And oh, crap. I am supposed to have a new intro. Luke, I know we only do four topics when we, four teasers. You got to do one more. You got to do one more while I download this. I can do a time transaction for you. I can purchase some time. One thing is a lot of people are saying I am too quiet.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So if you want to maybe change that at the same time i don't know fixed it's nice heck yeah um do you have a slow cpu well radion might be for you we'll talk about that more later but there is some interesting theories around that that have been tested also is amd AMD joining the GPU mining craze? Are they potentially taking a different route than NVIDIA did? Yes. Is NVIDIA's route actually working?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Oh my, not sure. Apparently I might be too loud now. Well, you know what? I already turned it down. So that's when their delayed reaction is bad. It's the worst. All right, I'm ready. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Here we go, guys. It's in. It's in. Hellscape is bad. It's the worst. All right. I'm ready. I'm ready. Here we go, guys. It's in. It's in. Hellscape is here. We are doing a new WAN intro today. Hold on. I just got to get rid of the other one. I love it. This weird style looks like a blocker just like the ones I'm wearing. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, I love it. Oh, but your face is a sign? Right here, this, this. Oh, yeah, that's great. like here this oh it's a big shout out to ed he sent it to me i didn't catch it we're putting that in there
Starting point is 00:05:19 i you know what a plus a plus for effort on that one. We'll get that. Yeah, we'll get that. We'll get that figured out. We'll get the music added to it. Oh, people are saying it's loud. Wait, what? I didn't see it, though. Oh, weird. Okay, well, already then. I didn't see it on my levels. I guess I'm okay with it. All right, why don't we jump into our first topic of the day?
Starting point is 00:05:46 For those of you not familiar, Shadow was a game or is, excuse me, because their site is still up. Shadow.tech. Here we go. Hold on a second. I'm going to display capture. Yeah, there you go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Website's still up. Hey, Honey, it's got some savings in there. Is Honey one of the sponsors of the show today? I think so, actually. There you go. There you go. Last successful coupon. This one right here used an hour ago by a user in Austin, Texas.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Got all that info. All right. Anyway, okay, Honey, love you. I'll talk about you later, though. So Shadow Tech still exists, but small problem. They have apparently declared bankruptcy. So they're not a regular sponsor of the show, but we have worked with them a couple of times. Really cool service.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Luke, did you ever try it? Or was this post-Luke days? That was post-me. Most game streaming services, the way that they work is you're logging into some kind of obfuscated service portal, okay? So you've got a game library, kind of Steam big picture style, and you kind of pick the game in it. All the magic kind of happens behind the scenes and it loads up. What makes Shadow different is that you just remote into a gaming computer, essentially.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So their servers are just, if I recall correctly, they're just these 2U or 1U blades. And then they've got like a 16 core or so CPU, and they slice it up so that you basically get a dedicated GPU in each one of the virtual machines. And it's just passed through. And then you've got like four CPUs, four cores worth of CPU, and they've got a bunch of different tiers. But the trick is that with a Shadow Blade, like a Shadow game streaming server, you are not actually sharing any of the hardware.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So it's kind of impossible for the service to be overloaded with other users because your hardware is not shared. Now, it could be possible for the service to have too many people logged in because you wouldn't necessarily be remoting into exactly the same shadow every single time. So all the storage is done in a completely separate rack and it just like grabs your virtual disk and boots it up on whatever hardware happens to be available at the hardware tier that you specified so theoretically it's possible that they could uh be that they could have too many people logged in at once
Starting point is 00:08:14 but from my understanding talking to them it's not really an issue and you know i would apparently be surprised at what a small percentage of people who use a subscription service like this want to all log in at the same time. So I was like, OK, fair enough. So, yeah, what's cool is that you install whatever games you want. There's no such thing. Like, have you been following how NVIDIA had issues, particularly at the beginning, getting game developers to allow their games on their games on GeForce Now? developers to allow their games on their games on geforce now uh well with shadow there's no way that any game developer could even know that you are running a shadow box because you are running on hardware you are just using the same kind of technology as uh you know valve in home streaming
Starting point is 00:08:59 excuse me steam in home streaming from valve or or what's NVIDIA's one called again? The one that they introduced with the shield. I can't keep track of it anymore because there's like GeForce Now and there's GeForce, I don't know, something or other. Anyway, the point is, it's using the same hardware video encoding on the remote machine to send the video signal over the internet, and then you send your input devices over your internet connection and you're basically just looking at a video stream of the of the gaming rig so they'd have no way of knowing that you're in like a a cloud gaming kind of use case here anyway uh they filed for bankruptcy on March 2nd in France and the following day in California.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Sort of. Sort of. Blade, the firm behind the cloud computing platform Shadow, has filed for bankruptcy. Shadow themselves are wanting to reorganize to free themselves up from the debt that is holding them back. And they plan to transition forward. So I don't suspect that Shadow the service is actually necessarily going anywhere. I was trying to look into this while you were talking and I noticed that on their Twitter 10 hours ago or 11 hours ago now, they have like a live stream talking about new stuff
Starting point is 00:10:19 that's coming in, new tech and whatnot. I'm like, that's pretty weird for a bankrupt company. So I started looking into it and yeah yeah i guess they intend to continue operating um just maybe in a different form yeah it could be a little challenging so yeah i don't know how to pronounce this to crsi i don't know so these guys are the server provider that is claiming back money that is owed by Blade. And what they're saying is that they have the right to take 30.2 million euros worth of hardware from Blade. Now, I would imagine that as much as Shadowtech's technology is really cool, like it works shockingly well, even though I was outside of the formal catchment area for it because I'm up in Canada.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So their technology works great. But if Blade, who is backing them, is now filing for bankruptcy and they have server providers trying to take back their hardware, 2CRI noted that with the shortage of electronic components and more specifically graphics cards there has been interest to buy the hardware uh yeah yeah i mean so if i'm a if i'm a creditor i am i want this resolved fast so that i because shadow's running running really high end graphics cards in these setups, because that's what you're paying for. Like if we go to,
Starting point is 00:11:50 if we go to shadow.tech here, you can get gaming machines with here. Hold on a second. Let's, uh, yeah. GeForce GTX 1080 or equivalent. From my understanding, it actually never includes a GTX 1080 because they actually run quadros for better virtualization support. Oh, okay. Yeah, but it really is equivalent. And then four cores, eight threads, 12 gigs RAM. Yeah, and then you can get a Titan RTX or equivalent,
Starting point is 00:12:17 which would probably be a quadro of some sort, or GeForce RTX 2080 or equivalent. So they actually have like tons of these graphics cards deployed, some of which are probably worth as much as the entire server they're sitting in with the whole shortage and mining craze and everything that's going on right now. And from what we've learned in the last little bit, Alex worked on a really great video this week and last week investigating what the heck
Starting point is 00:12:45 is going on with the current silicon shortage worldwide. As far as we can tell, spoiler alert, this is not going to get better for GPUs for like a year. Like another year. So it's going to be freaking rough. Shadow wants to reorganize to free themselves from the debt that's holding them back in the transition period. They will continue to develop their technology and provide the best service to their customers who are the key to long-term success. And yeah, I think this is going to be a challenging time for them. But if they make it the transition to being, say, for example, a technology solutions provider, and then let other companies come in and be the actual hardware backbone for it
Starting point is 00:13:28 or whatever this looks like. I think there's got to be a path to success for Shadow. We've enjoyed working with them. We think they're really smart people and we wish them nothing but the best, but it's definitely going to be a trying time. A rough road, yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Oh, on that note about gpu shortages luke people have been asking linus you said that this week you were going to launch the verified actual gamer program what the heck happened with that so there was a bit of a miscommunication we're not sure uh where exactly it happened but um something, something. Thank you very much, Trump administration. Tariffs on products from China. The floatplane team thought that someone else was going to deal with it, and someone else thought the floatplane team was going to deal with it. But we have to have a way of assessing those tariffs on American buyers in the cart. That caused some technical details that are nothing to do with our anti-scalper,
Starting point is 00:14:34 anti-bot technology. Totally different thing. I think that miscommunication was on my end. Well, I wasn't going to throw anyone under the bus, Luke, because I think that the bus probably doesn't have good enough shocks to run over a man of your stature. I don't want to. I don't want a bumpy ride for the people in the bus. You want to ruin the bus. That would be a problem. I don't want to ruin the bus. That's why I didn't do it out of consideration for the people in the bus. The wheels on the bus go over top of luke over top of luke um anyway a thing happened next week all right yes but for realsies this time we've got it sorted
Starting point is 00:15:14 out now right uh yeah there's there's a solution it it's not a thousand percent perfect but a thousand percent not a thing it is magical and i i think with the system that we're working with i don't think it's really possible to make it a thousand percent perfect at this time a thousand percent can you stop that a thousand percent perfect you're triggering me triggering triggered uh anyway yeah so we're gonna do this cake we're in pretty good shape but we're not there just yet fortunately where we are there is lots of great more topics to talk at you guys about why don't you run us through the microsoft bethesda acquisition being complete i mean as a gamer do you you think Microsoft has been in a seriously disadvantaged position
Starting point is 00:16:09 compared to Sony in terms of exclusives? And perhaps more importantly, does this solve the problem? Is this it? Silver bullet, done. I think they absolutely have been in the past. And I don't 100% know if this will completely solve the problem because I think a lot of exclusives are very important around console launches.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yep. So it depends on how the timing of these things are going to happen. They made this acquisition now. Maybe they're kind of trying to cook this for the next console launch. Although if there are exclusives coming in the form of, oh my goodness, Elder Scrolls VI and what is the other one? Starfield? Something like that? That would definitely sell some Xboxes because those are going to be gigantic games no matter what you think. Fallout 76 was an atrocious failure and it's not going to matter if they come out with the sequel to Skyrim.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It's going to be kind of irrelevant um tons of people are going to buy elder scrolls 6 it just it's also we have heard rumors um that elder scrolls 6 itself is extremely far out so that could even potentially be a next console situation um or a console refresh situation i was gonna say because i actually i've been making notes stuff i want to ask you about will there ever be a next gen xbox we'll talk about that after yeah that's a whole separate discussion um but yeah this is this is huge because it's not like some people know bethesda for elder scrolls like like one that maybe yeah maybe elder scrolls or maybe fallout or maybe Elder Scrolls or maybe Fallout or maybe both or maybe Doom. I mean, well, there's Elder Scrolls
Starting point is 00:17:49 and then there's Elder Scrolls in a dystopian future. Like, come on. Yeah, or there's Elder Scrolls, but online persistent universe. So yeah, it's a bunch of studios. It's Alpha Dog Games, which makes Wraithborn. It's Arcane Studios, which makes Dishonored, which we could see a Dishonored 3, I think it would be.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Bethesda Game Studios, which is what you're probably most familiar with, which is Elder Scrolls, Fallout, et cetera. id Software, which is Doom. Machine Games, which is Wolfenstein. Roundhouse Studios, which is a new studio with no announced projects currently. So maybe we'll see something down the line. ZeniMax Online Media, which is a new studio with no announced projects currently. So maybe we'll see something
Starting point is 00:18:25 down the line. ZeniMax Online Media, which is Elder Scrolls Online, and Tango Gameworks, which is the Evil Within. So it's a ton of different IPs. And that is 1000% what Microsoft was going for. It's been interesting looking at some of the interviews and stuff so far. Because our old friend Todd Howard has very much openly accepted at this point in time that the launch, he said, if I remember correctly, the quote was the launch of Fallout 76 couldn't have gone any worse or there wasn't more things that we could have gotten wrong or something along those lines. I don't remember what the exact quote is, but he's openly accepting that, which is good. And they're saying that Microsoft tech may have actually helped them
Starting point is 00:19:09 with that, which is probably actually true. So it's interesting. There's notes in here saying that Microsoft is acting a lot like Disney, gobbling up intellectual property. i agree with that i just hope that they continue uh to not star wars anything that they purchase that would be great so microsoft i i would very much appreciate if you don't do that in terms of sheer numbers this is crazy this brings microsoft to 23 first party studios where by comparison sony has 13 first party studios and nintendo has 11 production groups but then many other outside studios as well that is that is kind of crazy i mean is there going to be anything left of you know independent game development houses i mean at what point because ea yeah really big company compared to microsoft like get real and i mean at what point
Starting point is 00:20:16 does ea get eaten up at what point does activision blizzard get nommed up i would be extremely expensive unless you parted it out because like the the ea sports section literally just fifa it would be so much like billion dollar business yeah yeah good old but like you you might be able to take other properties off of them um which which could be interesting. But yeah, this is spicy. There's been a consistent rumor that there's going to be a big press conference. I'm rather certain that hasn't happened, but I haven't been following it super closely. And we suspect there's going to be news about...
Starting point is 00:21:02 Is it Starfield? It is Starfield, right? Yeah. We suspect there's going to be news about um is it starfield that is starfield right yeah we suspect there's going to be news about starfield and um how different exclusives are going to work moving forward and all this other kind of stuff at that event um whatever that event looks like in the time of covid which will probably just be an online stream phil spencer's quote here sounds pretty ominous so i mean he's basically trying to finally clear up the big question about the acquisition. What does this mean in terms of platform exclusivity for Bethesda games?
Starting point is 00:21:31 So here's the quote. If you're an Xbox customer, okay, so he's already not talking to anyone who's not an Xbox customer. We're off to a good start. The thing I want you to know is that this is about delivering great exclusive games for you not for other people that ship on platforms where game pass exists well okay then that's like not even that's like beyond ominous that's just like telling you how it is yeah okay that's our goal that's why we're doing this that's the root of this partnership that we're building okay We want exclusives. We just bought a bunch of exclusives.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And we're going to put them on Game Pass. So either Sony can support Game Pass or Sony can go f*** themselves. Yep. All right then. Neat. Now, any contractual obligations that Bethesda had already tied
Starting point is 00:22:27 themselves into, obviously those will be honored. But beyond that, it looks like this is basically going to be the Bethesda on Microsoft and only Microsoft show. I mean, PC gamers are probably going to be in pretty good shape here because back to your comment about you know maybe the timing of this is so that they can line up great exclusives for the next xbox i i i think that's a really interesting conversation whether there will actually ever be another xbox i think it's over i think that's what the series name means xbox is a series of game consoles with varying capabilities. I think that's what Microsoft is testing the water with, with such wildly different capabilities between the Xbox Series S and the Xbox Series X.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Sony went the traditional way. They appeased game developers by having two different price points, but differentiating them only in terms of their support for physical media. Like Sony decided, no, a PlayStation 5 is a PlayStation 5. Microsoft said, hey, game developers, guess what? We're going to have one truly next generation console experience. And oh, by the way, we're going to have this thing that's like moderately more powerful than last gen. And you're going gonna have to optimize your game to run for it otherwise you're not going to be able to sell on xbox at all so good luck with that
Starting point is 00:23:49 i think that's a sign of things to come i think we could see xbox series x2 or series z or whatever i mean it's microsoft so the naming will be terrible and it'll make no sense whatsoever but i i mean i think they're just going to treat it like Windows. Xbox is a platform now. And so these games will just come out and they'll just be on Xbox. And then at some point, you'll just be able to run Xbox as a dashboard on your Windows computer. And game developers are basically going to be forced to support this ever increasingly diverse set of hardware to the point where it's barely even a console anymore. But that's just, that's just me being all tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. Yeah, no, I think, I think we're going in that direction.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I don't necessarily know if that's going to happen with the, with the next generation. Like, I don't know if we're there now. We definitely could be. I think your point about the name makes a lot of sense um but yeah i think there will be i think there will still be bumps i i don't think you're gonna like upgrade your xbox like i think it's gonna be a new box that you go to the store and you buy and i think it's gonna come what the the main thing that might make me suspect that is i i bet you they would start releasing them a little bit more often.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But what I also think they're going to do is I think they're going to continue support for past Xboxes for much longer. So in the old days, a new Xbox or a new PlayStation launched. And it's not like when the PlayStation 3 launched, you could like update your PlayStation 2 with the new redesigned menu. Like that wasn't a thing. PlayStation 3 navigation is PlayStation 3 system navigation and PS2 system navigation is PS2 system navigation. That's it. It's that simple. So what I think we might see is kind of like the iPhone, where Apple has made an extremely lucrative business out of supporting their devices for much longer and then taking their 30% cut off the App Store, right? So Microsoft is playing that exact same game. They want Xboxes staying in people's living rooms for as long as
Starting point is 00:25:59 humanly possible. And I don't think they care what kind it is because at the end of the day, the difference between a $300 Xbox and a $500 Xbox is sort of trivial to a company at Microsoft size, like $200, please. They don't care about your $200. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They want game pass, right? What's game pass cost now? Monthly US. Here, hold on a second. Trying to remember. I don't actually subscribe to it. So here, we're going to go. We're going to look at Ultimate. Oh, for crying out loud.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Can you just see all plans? Here we go. Ultimate is $17 a month. PC is $12 a month. Console is $12 a month. That's in Canada though. So it's probably like $8 to $12 or whatever that works out to in Freedom Dollars. So, okay. So $200? Yeah, right. No, no. of those so it's probably like eight to twelve or whatever that works out to in freedom dollars so okay so two hundred dollars yeah right no no they want you to run your xbox for the next five
Starting point is 00:26:50 to ten years and they want yours let's say ten dollars a month okay ten dollars a month times 60 months for five years oh that's six hundred dollars yeah yep that's that's, that's definitely, that's definitely the game plan. They've made this very clear. They've made it clear that they don't even consider Sony a competitor in the same space anymore. With that said, I, I think for them to have spoken that a little bit uh i think that was overly confident because if anyone has proven that you can make a business out of doing gaming differently it's nintendo and now that that is definitely proven there is absolutely no reason why sony couldn't continue to innovate i mean they've done stuff in the past that even though not that commercially successful is at least now agreed was amazing like the like the ps vita for example like how many of you would love to see sony revisit the vita
Starting point is 00:28:00 come on let me know a proper switch competitor yeah i mean the switch was wildly successful and the crazy thing about the switch uh hold on the crazy thing about the switch is that it wasn't even that innovative of an idea nintendo launched the shield way before like the switch was probably even a twinkle in into in uh nintendo's eye like uh hold on a second improve uh spam prevention creep okay i got a poll for you guys i got a poll so we're gonna hit we're gonna hit floatplane first here we go straw pull straw pull uh let's hit twitch next everyone in twitch and floatplane chat is talking about the psp2 right exactly okay man youtube chat like that's the thing is like it's not even gonna work
Starting point is 00:28:51 someone who can absolutely move new consoles is nintendo because they'll they'll change it up like when the last time they released and even remotely what i'd consider standard console would have been uh the gamecube right um i mean i was gonna say the wii u but it did have the game on the controller gimmick i would say that because no one cared about that i liked it fundamentally why not count as a person oh you count as a person you just count as one whose opinion doesn't matter wow oh apparently the results are broken oh rip straw pool okay well that controller was actually amazing just no one really like used it i It blows my mind still
Starting point is 00:29:46 that there were like tech savvy people who didn't realize that the Wii U was a next generation console and thought it was like a Wii expansion kit or something like that. The Wii U is actually one of my... I probably played the Wii U more than I played the Switch.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I actually really liked Wii U. It just, yeah. Like when I invited my friends over to play, literally not one of them knew it was a new console. played the wii u more than i played the switch i actually really liked wii u um it just yeah like when i invited my friends over to play literally not one of them knew it was a new console they thought it was just a new controller for the wii like the marketing around that was just the actual worst of any gaming marketing in like the last 20 years i don't even understand why they called it that i mean calling it we in the first place was. And then they had to go and name the next one Wii U. I mean, maybe it's just one of those things that didn't translate. But then it was, it bombed everywhere.
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Starting point is 00:33:53 Run us through it. Let's go. Oh, crap. I lied. Sorry, I got one more thing. Jono added an extra sponsor spot. Channel Super Fun. We're looking for a writer slash producer.
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Starting point is 00:34:17 Okay, Luke, go ahead. What are we doing? Slow CPU? Radeon is actually probably for you. This is actually kind of interesting. An investigation by Hardware Unboxed has revealed a startling correlation that may inform your next GPU purchase. Radeon GPUs run better on slower CPUs by up to 20%. NVIDIA drivers seem to have a much higher CPU overhead than AMD's at 1080p and even 1440p, resulting in a
Starting point is 00:34:47 situation where an RTX 3090 gets lower frame rates than a lowly Radeon 5600 XT or 5700 XT, which is bonkers. That's crazy. Even to more modern mid-range CPUs like the Ryzen 5 3600X, even to more modern mid-range CPUs like the Ryzen 5 3600X, where an upgrade from a 5700XT to an RTX 3070 can lose frames. Interesting. Dang, this isn't limited to just Ampere. The same thing happens with the RTX 2080 Ti as well. CPU utilization with a Core i3-10100 measured roughly 10% to 20% higher with an RTX 3070 versus an RX 6800. Other CPUs tested include, these are all Ryzen 5s, so 1600X, 2600X, 3600X, and 5600X.
Starting point is 00:35:40 The 5600X is fast enough to avoid the bottlenecks, but will still occur in heavily CPU limited scenarios. So look forward to that as it ages. Now, I'm not going to defend, I'm not going to defend like software that causes more CPU utilization. That's a drag. Nobody wants to see that. But I do want to jump in for a moment and point out that this is not in all games. So I mean, there are some pretty significant games in the list. Watch Dogs Legion, Horizon Zero Dawn, Rainbow Six Siege, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Cyberpunk 2077, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and there are more. But something I would like to point out is that most people running an RTX 3090, for example, are not running a Core i3, or for that matter, even a Ryzen 5. So is this a problem? Yes. But is it a surprise that it took us so long to notice this problem?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Not really, because whether you're a reviewer like us, or whether you're a user at home, the odds of you pairing these very low-end CPUs with these very high-end GPUs are pretty slim, especially because you can get a very performant, I mean, even for the last few years, you've been able to get a very high-performance CPU for less than the cost, like half the cost of a top tier GPU anyway. So most people were just maxing out their CPUs in the first place anyway. But are there any patterns that we can look for in the data that Hardware Unboxed found? You're asking me if there's patterns?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yeah, and then I'm highlighting the things so that you'll talk about it. Yes. Sorry, I'm trying to deal with something else at the same time the issue appears to be common to cpu limited direct x12 games cpu limited vulcan games like everything um all dx11 games as well seemingly regardless of cpu load so basically uh everything remotely modern games affected include everything but in this list specifically watchdogs legion horizon zero dawn uh rainbow six siege assassin's creed valhalla cyberpunk 2077 shadow of the tomb raider
Starting point is 00:37:52 etc etc etc yeah i already talked about that all right well uh this turns the conventional wisdom that amd's drivers are poorly optimized on its head sort of i don't know if the conventional wisdom was strictly strictly speaking, that AMD's drivers were poorly optimized, but that they were bad. Bad doesn't necessarily mean poorly optimized. It could mean that they crash. It could mean that they have incompatibilities or visual anomalies or whatever else. It could mean any number of things. The conventional wisdom has been that AMD's GPU driverspu drivers are inferior to nvidia's in terms of delivering a consistently um high performance and functional experience one of the
Starting point is 00:38:33 other things that has made that story a little bit murkier is that there's more to a gpu driver now than just does it render the game on the screen i mean now you've got features like yeah you know really does does nvidia have anything that matters to you and me nearly as much as uh their nvank encoder and shadowplay like that's the man that is such a big one for me yeah and vink encoder and shadow i was gonna say shadow play when you said matters to you and me but the inventing coder is a really good point as well those two are are killer the rest of it uh i find the game optimization stuff incredibly annoying to be honest yeah yeah i ignore i totally ignore that stuff i just turn it off rtx voice is pretty cool but i had some
Starting point is 00:39:19 issues with it and so i kind of stopped using it and And like, I have a, like a pretty near field microphone anyway. So it's not like it's a major concern for me. So much software has that kind of functionality built in. That's like good enough. Like if I, if for whatever reason I needed to, I needed to stream the game stream from a construction site, I'd probably spend the 10 minutes like setting up RTX voice and getting it working. But beyond that, it's not a huge life
Starting point is 00:39:46 changer for me because i would think that most people who stream regularly enough to you know really dial in their streaming setups um probably just can manage to you know put a big blanket on the door if they have a loud neighbor or whatever else like there's other mitigation strategies that are more permanent that you can put in place anth Anthony has a note here that says, do I need to start benchmarking GPUs with multiple CPUs? Now, Anthony, the answer is no. As a general rule, when we're looking to evaluate a graphics card at launch, we're looking for its best case scenario because that's what's going to inform people's purchasing decisions, not just today, but a year from now two years from now five years from now when they're trying to piece together you know how that gpu fits in against modern cards because they're looking at it in the second hand market and
Starting point is 00:40:35 even this could also yeah maybe be like something you could do every once in a blue moon where you go like how how bottlenecked are you getting with different setups? And then you do a specific video about like weird setups and seeing how they bottleneck. And then you move on because people shouldn't be running into those situations anyways. Something it could cause us to change is which CPU we use for our single CPU that we choose for benchmarking. So maybe for something like a $250 card or a 299 card, well, maybe in those situations,
Starting point is 00:41:09 we stop using a top tier CPU or we use the last gen top tier CPU or something along those lines, because we do wanna give people representative data, but absolutely not. I mean, if we're looking at an RTX 4090, for example, a next gen top of-line flagship card, we will absolutely be putting the fastest CPU possible
Starting point is 00:41:28 because we want to know how fast it goes. We don't want to fix one problem, which is that we're ignoring driver optimization differences only to introduce another problem where we are bottlenecking the bloody graphics card and not giving a good representation of what its performance would be in the real world because most people do not buy a high-end GPU and run it on a Ryzen 5 1600X, especially if they're running Ryzen because AMD provides such ample upgrade opportunities for that platform. Update your BIOS, ladies and
Starting point is 00:42:02 gentlemen. Get a new CPU in there. That's the way to go. That's the AMD way. It's cool. It's interesting. I like stuff like this. You know what else is cool? What? Manufacturers quietly swapping out
Starting point is 00:42:17 the hardware in their products to something that performs worse. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool stuff. This is actually super interesting a data's xpg sx 8200 ssd if you have one of those it is now time to rip it out of your system and sell it to me we need five unique variants of this ssd to benchmark them against each other and find out whether ADATA did their due diligence and did a good job of revising the parts that they're using or whether they f***ed their customers
Starting point is 00:42:52 by advertising a certain level of performance and delivering something else entirely. Spoiler alert, it's probably the latter. ADATA has not been forward about the revisions they've made to this SX8200 Pro over time. So we actually currently don't know if there are more variants of the drive that exist than the ones that we know about. So here's what we definitely know exists. Variant A, which is likely the release variant or the binned review sample variant variant uses the SM2262EN controller with Intel, Intel Micron,
Starting point is 00:43:27 so IMFT 64-layer TLC NAND. Variant B uses the same controller, but with Micron 96-layer NAND. Variant C uses a different controller, so a 2262G instead of a 2262EN and Samsung 64-layer TLC NAND. D uses that same controller with Micron 96-layer TLC NAND. And then variant E, which was first spotted actually last month by Reddit user Svarch Impans, uses the same controller with SK Hynix TLC NAND. Now, this drive currently retails for $120 US. But if you're the first to reach out with a verifiably unique iteration of the drive, I will pay triple that.
Starting point is 00:44:16 I will buy your drive for $360 US so that we can do our investigation. When you're contacting us, it's going to be via linusmediagroup.com slash contact us. So you'll have to go on the linusmediagroup.com website. When you're contacting us, include a screenshot of the Flash ID program's window, the date or a rough time frame of when you ordered the drive,
Starting point is 00:44:37 and type out the Flash slash controller specs of your drive. This info is absolutely necessary. Oh, Anthony adds, adds oh yeah don't forget about the sx80 100 that went from tlc to qlc lol way to go a data by the way that's not the one we want we want the sx80 200 yeah yeah like come on we've been talking about this for a long time and it's a data i just want to be very clear it's not the only group that has done this this to me at least is the most extensive i've ever heard of
Starting point is 00:45:10 but that's the whole thing nobody hears about it how are you supposed to know it's not like you and your friend it's you know it's not like a penis you know you don't whip them out and compare with your friends do that every day yeah every day right absolutely yeah in Canada a lot of people don't know that about Canadians okay I um but yeah this is actually quite common in the in the SSD space I and yeah you don't hear about it too often, but I don't think it usually goes this far. So I'm pretty interested to see
Starting point is 00:45:47 what the results of this are. All right, we got a couple more pretty good topics for today. I do want to talk about the OVH data center that was destroyed in a fire. This was not a little fire. This was a big fire. One of OVH's data centers
Starting point is 00:46:02 in its Strasbourg campus, SBG2, was completely destroyed in a fire. You knowh's data centers in its strasbourg campus sbg2 was completely destroyed in a you know it's a big fire when one of the one of the first uh like conclusionary statements that are made about it is that they are very happy that no firefighters were injured and and there was actually there was 100 firefighters and 43 trucks um that got assigned to control the fire. It was crazy. And there was also some pictures of the fire suppression equipment that they had on site and all this kind of stuff. And it's not like they didn't have anything. This was an absolutely bonkers fire.
Starting point is 00:46:40 There was no injuries, no casualties, which is good. The fire spread to SP spg1 and destroyed four of its rooms out of 12 in total spg3 and four uh were completely unaffected spg2 was completely destroyed so uh this building right here and it's gone and a boat apparently i didn't know about that that's i mean it's sad for the person who owns the boat, but it's kind of funny. That's something. Because OVH's servers are typically unmanaged. Oh, yeah. So they're unmanaged servers. So a significant amount of data is likely permanently gone. Why don't you talk through that with us, Luke? What is an unmanaged server?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Luke, what is an unmanaged server? Well, OVH isn't doing anything for you. So if there's going to be backups, if there's management of the server in any way, you are doing it, which is desirable for a lot of people, but not desirable for everyone. If you were using something like AWS and they had an issue at one of their data centers,
Starting point is 00:47:39 you can kind of sit back and shrug and not worry about it. If you're using something like OVH and there's an issue at one of their data centers, you probably need to pay attention because there might be things you need to do, or hopefully you already did things ahead of time, which are going to solve whatever problem just happened. So what are some of the mitigations you could have,
Starting point is 00:47:57 like manually rerouting from that data center to another one when you realize there's a problem or like talk through. So, you know just just saying just saying you know float plane experience no downtime whatsoever i noticed you're wearing the shirt you know got that got that float plane shirt float plane experience no downtime what did we do yeah i mean you can have you can have containerized systems so they're they're very used to and very good at um kind of killing themselves and respawning elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Usually not with fire, but... Yeah, usually it's a little bit more software-based than literal fire and flames. But yeah, they can kill themselves, pop up elsewhere and be agile in that way. You can manually reroute things. You can have systems in place that automatically reroute things based on problems. There's a lot of resiliency things that you can do, a lot of different ways that you can approach it. And a lot of it's going to be based on your tech stack and the various things that you use within it. This is kind of part of the idea of
Starting point is 00:48:59 what a lot of people look for in cloud-based systems like AWS is they're often a little bit more by like there's configuration and stuff that goes into it. A lot of people specialize in AWS management, but it's built for this type of thing from the ground up. It should be able to withstand these types of problems. It should be able to scale and downscale. And one of the nice things about being able to scale and downscale is by losing a bunch of things, it's very similar to those processes. So if you're built for that, it should be able to happen fairly easily. So, yeah, make sure your things are backed up, even if they're in a rather secure and with really good fire suppression remote server in a data center. You still need to make sure it's backed up.
Starting point is 00:50:10 You still need to make sure it's backed up. You still need to make sure it's off site. And you go back to those three rules of storage, try to have it in three different forms and in three different places. And the forum now has a copy that's encrypted on a server at LMGHQ. So don't worry, your rep on the forum is safe. Your post count is okay. Yeah, we got you fam. So that was something that Jake, I don't think, has written an LTT video in the last two weeks. He's been busy setting up the lounge, working on the security system, getting the backup in place for the forum. He's actually done like a crap ton of not, not video stuff, but it's all very, very important forums. The forum is so important to me considering how little time I actually
Starting point is 00:50:40 dedicate to it. It really does mean a lot to me because I treat it like an untainted space. There's basically no ads. There's no algorithm. There's no upvoting. There's just good, old-fashioned tech discussion. Other than making sure that people abide by our rules, which can be summed up as don't be a dick and be excellent to each other um other than that we basically just let people talk tech to their heart's content without a politicized agenda people can criticize us we don't care about that as long as they don't insult each other um so yeah i'm really glad the forums it's a good place that we built on good legs but um yeah speaking of websites that
Starting point is 00:51:26 could have potentially gone down 3.6 million websites across 464 000 domains went down as a result of that event which is bonkers um and it says ovh has stated it will likely take at least two weeks to recover infrastructure i saw that elsewhere as well i expected yeah way longer that's impressive like damn ovh yeah i if they pull that off which i mean this is not the first time i've seen them quote that i wow um good job um in soviet Russia, internet throttles you. Kentik observed that Russia made an attempt to throttle Twitter and ended up throttling their entire internet instead. This was caused by a poorly crafted substring
Starting point is 00:52:20 in a block list slash network shaping tool by the Roskomnodorzor bureau. I don't know how to pronounce that. I'm sorry. So the plan was to slow down Twitter's link shortening service t.co, which monitors the types and quality of links its users share. Russia has fought against Twitter for failure to remove illegal content in Russia, like posts encouraging children to join Russian opposition protests apparently russia blocked domains containing the string t.co instead of blocking the domain t.co so any domain that ended in a t.co or co.uk or.com was throttled now there's no way to validate this
Starting point is 00:53:02 without access to their traffic filtering service but it's just a reasonable explanation that what major websites can you think reddit came to mind right away yeah ends with a t and then dot com but there's there's probably quite a few more yeah microsoft.com like yeah anything soft.com Yeah, that's actually a good point. Yeah, that's a little awkward. There's got to be quite a few. Anyways, NFTs confuse and scare me and I think it's a lot of drug money.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Let's move on. Okay, Luke, Luke, tell me something. Okay, yeah. Okay, if I sold the Linus selfie meme face as an NFT, would you consider buying it? It would be yours forever. You could own a meme. So what?
Starting point is 00:54:01 I can have a digital copy of that meme at any it looks exactly the same i'm tempted i don't know i'm tempted to sell it just you should do it for the meme yeah why not well am i allowed to post it anymore though like that's what i don't understand i have not looked into it i just i haven't looked into this enough either i just one thing that i know is almost everything sells for a meme dollar amount have Have you noticed that? No. Like this news article right now is talking about how a work from a digital artist named Beeple sold for $69 million. Wow, surprising.
Starting point is 00:54:35 You see other stuff that sells for like, oh, every single numerical value in the dollar value is a six or it's all rotating. Six, nine, six, nine, six, nine, six, nine. And it's just like oh my god then you look into what art trading has been majorly used for in the world so far and you're like hmm i wonder what people are going to be really interested in trading extremely high value art in an untrackable way online hmm i wonder what this is for oh my goodness yeah well there you go there you go jacob stem says i would actually buy that so there there you go people are like i'm sure you'd be able to sell it i don't necessarily know how much but i'm sure you'd be able to yeah i i have no idea i have no
Starting point is 00:55:22 idea honestly i'm gonna tell you guys i'm to be completely transparent with you if i did it it would not because be because i believe in nfts it would be because i'm trying to make a quick buck on a stupid fad there you go there you go so if i do it you can you can point to this moment where i where i said that's why i'm doing it and i'm never i'm never going to lie to you guys about that. If I did it, it would be to make a quick buck on a stupid fad. Do I think that it is actually a fad? I have no idea. I mean, it could be around forever. People thought Pokemon was a fad when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:55:58 How'd that turn out for you? Going strong. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think this will be around forever. I don't necessarily know in what form, but there's, there's too much money in it and it's too legitimate of a looking, it looks very legitimate and you're able to move monstrous amounts of money around, which is exactly the same reason why extremely high value art trade is the way that it is.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And I think it's exactly the same reason why this will be the way that it is. And it will just keep going and keep going and keep going. XWeGix says, I support this reason. There you go. Yeah, pretty much. People want a stonks update. All right. I got an update for you, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Hold on. I got to check my portfolio. Okay. Oh, no. Okay. I would log into my banking app, but I'd have to enter my password. Okay. Got a lot. Oh, no. Okay. I would log into my banking app, but it's, uh, I'd have to enter my password and it takes a little while. So I'm just going to use my like cheap and cheerful, like quick, quick app here.
Starting point is 00:56:53 So my whole, my holdings, my holdings tab, I'm up. I'm up Luke. You're up on my meme stocks. up on my meme stocks uh so my original my original purchase was uh 49 455 us dollars and 12 cents and i am now at wait no i'm down well whatever i'm only down like 500 bucks so that's pretty good compared to being down 25 000 which is where I was at a couple of weeks ago. I mean, really, the whole point of that was everyone's like, sell, sell, take your money back, sell, sell. Okay. Here's the problem though, guys, because my wife has told me, my wife's told me, she's been like, you need to sell this thing. I've been up as much as like three or four grand on the whole
Starting point is 00:57:45 thing. And she's like, okay, can you please just sell this thing? This is ridiculous. But the problem is it's not all my money. Like the way that I see it, yes, when you super chat something, it's my money. It's that simple. I own it. But I told you guys that I was going to buy GME and we were either going to the moon or into the ground. I mean, we're not at the moon yet and we're clearly not at the ground. So I think I just have to hold. I think I just have to have those diamond hands.
Starting point is 00:58:17 What choice do I have, Luke? I think he likes the stock, guys. Maybe I just like the stock. You know? To be clear, none of this is financial advice i'm just a smooth brain ape i just i just like the stock okay that's it huddle so uh i don't know i don't know guys honestly you know part of yeah sure part of me is like yeah sure would be nice to have had some fun with this meme and just like not, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:46 not lose a bunch of money. But, you know, let's let's think about it. Realistically, I am one of those people that has benefited more than lost due to COVID. So maybe this is just a way of redistributing some money to some people who are desperate because lots of the people getting in and buying GME are retail investors who might not actually be on great financial footing. So if they take it, I ultimately don't really care. There you go.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Who cares? I can handle it. You guys already helped subsidize this endeavor and I already didn't put the entire 50K in GameStop. Some of you called me on that. I put 10 in AMC and I put 10 in some other stock that WallStreetBets was talking about that actually ended up not really being a meme stock.
Starting point is 00:59:32 That one is up from what I bought. I bought at $99.95 and I'm at $11.637. So that one's up substantially. Oh, wow. Like 16% over the time that i've had it um so you know what i'm just we're we're just we're going for it we're going for it everyone's like sell now sell now sell now i don't know if the wife makes okay so luke you know about this already there's a major life move that yes uh we've been thinking about that I may need every penny for.
Starting point is 01:00:06 If we go ahead with that, I may sell, but it wouldn't be because I don't like the stock. It would be because I actually just need it because it would be a significant upfront payment for something that could be very meaningful for Linus Media Group moving forward. So I think you know what I'm talking about. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 All right. We got one last topic for you, ladies and gentlemen. Is AMD joining the GPU mining craze? I mean, you mean joining it more? Yeah. I noticed that in the title as well. It's like they were absolutely a part of it. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Pat's notes in AMD's AMD GPU Linux driver
Starting point is 01:00:50 for the upcoming 5.12 kernel include mention of a new NV12 SKU. So this is referring to Navi 12 and apparently is without the VideoCore Next component that enables video output. So this could be a GPU mining only GPU. Can I just express again that whether it's NVIDIA or AMD, mining only GPUs are e-waste, they're trash.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Please stop. Yes. However, both of these parts seem to be previous gen that could have been supposedly in production for Apple that maybe Apple doesn't need anymore now that they're using their own GPUs. So we don't know what AMD's strategy is going to look like here. Maybe these would have been junk anyway. I certainly would have rather they were gamer junk.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Just put the video outputs on them and let whoever wants them decide what they're worth. It's unclear whether AMD will add hash rate caps to their Radeons. That's something that's really frustrating for me too, because why not let gamers mine at night and like recoup some of their costs? Like, come on. Yeah. So we'll have to wait a bit longer to see, you know, whether NVIDIA experiences any more PR fallout from the move. If that's the case, maybe AMD will feel safe following them, or maybe they'll just go for it anyway because mining is good money. We've said this time and time again. People have this image of AMD like they're some kind of white knight, scrappy underdog. They've certainly been
Starting point is 01:02:23 scrappy. They've certainly been an underdog, but don't imagine for a second that they are anything other than a publicly traded company whose entire purpose, entire raison d'etre is to make money. Has to be. That's all there is to it, I'm afraid. Yep. So that's it for the show i guess we should do a few super chats here so that the people who sent money for that might feel like they got something out of it personally i don't really understand what they get out of it but hey there you go uh robert mail asks are you even are you broke on gme are you still hodling oh yeah okay yeah. Okay. So we addressed that. Human? With no in-person LTX this year, how about a virtual one? We tried. We tried to come up with a plan that would be virtual but still be LTX, and it wasn't. It just wasn't LTX enough. So we decided not to do it. We didn't
Starting point is 01:03:21 want to dilute people's understanding of what ltx is uh by doing something that we didn't feel was ltx enough so 2022 ladies and gentlemen i i stand i i would i would also stand by that decision although it had literally nothing to do with me whatsoever at all but maybe if if this is still going on which i don't think it will be but if it is you could do like lto like call it something different we thought about that too um we were we were gonna call it uh what were we gonna call it ltx but like ltex or something like that like there was like and i forget what it stood for um i don't know it doesn't it doesn't matter um didn't happen yeah yeah we're not doing it we do have something really special coming
Starting point is 01:04:11 should i just spill the beans on this we have an upcoming collab with oh lordy whohd is in snazzy labs is in um uh brett from ufd tech is in kyle's in paul i think is in it is going to be we don't want to get sued by jeopardy so it's going to be called tech trivia answered in the form of a question those guys to my knowledge are all locked in it's going to be an incredible event three rounds three rounds okay uh so it's going to be an incredible event. Three rounds. Three rounds. Okay. So it's going to be some of the more consumer electronics and Mac folks in a round. Then it's going to be the more like PC hardware centric folks in a round. We're going to take the two winners and then I join the fray.
Starting point is 01:05:00 So it's going to be three and three. And then we take the two winners and then i go against them for the final round so it's going to be a ton of fun it's going to be amazing and this was one of the things that chase was you actually calling it that yeah tech trivia answered in the form of a question that's what the event's called that's the title we don't want to get sued so i'm i'm absolutely jazzed this is one of the things that chase who was supposed to plan ltx but there was no ltx um came up with to have a job this year and i'm we're renting out like a studio that's got like a big video wall so we're gonna have like the questions up on the wall and we're gonna have like virtual presence devices so people's faces will be like on on ipads on like cutouts i think
Starting point is 01:05:51 all the cutouts are gonna be me though so i'll just it'll just be like me standing there but like justine's face on it and stuff it's gonna be great guys very nice it's to be great. I've seen like T-T-I-A-F-O-A-Q. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I've seen the first two rounds of questions. I went through them with James. He wanted to do a sanity check with me to make sure that this was like
Starting point is 01:06:16 sort of the level of difficulty, the kinds of questions I had in mind. He and I know John, our tech quickie writer, they did a great job. They like, these are quality, quality questions. Some of them are easy. Some of them are hard. Some of them are unexpected.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Some of them are funny. I haven't seen round three, obviously, because I need to participate. But going through rounds one and two, I'm really excited to play. I just, man, I just, I'm looking forward to who I'm going to be up against. I'm rooting for Justine because I don't know if you remember this, Luke, but when we did our editing challenge, PC versus Mac editing challenge with her,
Starting point is 01:06:55 there were a lot of people that were like, oh, Justine, whatever. She doesn't actually know anything. She's just like blonde and takes selfies. Yeah, a little bit. You guys got to remember, you guys gotta remember you guys gotta remember nobody nobody who is at the top of this game is stupid whatever persona i mean i've talked about this when we've discussed uh you know remember when pewdiepie was making his living sort of pretending to be scared and shrieking at the camera and people were like oh that guy's an idiot and i was going look i don't watch the content i don't enjoy the
Starting point is 01:07:29 content i don't i don't care about the content but don't kid yourself anyone who makes it to the top of the game at anything is no dummy that's just not how that works so i'm killing it forever and that's that's been proven time and time again to be a very extremely difficult thing to do yeah to stay relevant for so long that's right is a big try to think of any mainstream celebrity that's been relevant as long as justine azaric come come at me there are a handful sure but they're going to be people like beyonce like they're legends yeah uh all right chase says first time catching the wang show live also bought my first ltd store.com merch hey heck yeah thanks chase ltd store is man it has been huge for us over the
Starting point is 01:08:21 last year and a half like the support you guys have shown has allowed us to reinvest into like way better problem we have some stuff coming that is going to blow your minds it's going to blow your minds ltt store has basically funded the verified actual gamer program like that's how that's how we bought all those gs and CPUs guys. Um, man, pretty sick. Uh, Vitor says cool collab idea. Biggest Brazil, uh, tech YouTuber, YouTube tech creators lives in North Vancouver. Quesa de nerd, nerd things. And their two channels of 10 plus years are stored on loose drives on a shelf, maybe collab. I think I've actually encountered them before, but their content, even though tech is very different from ours, and I just wasn't sure where the synergies were. Profits Business Guru says, damn, that sponsorship must have been pricey, made Shadow bankrupt.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Okay, that was not our fault. We're not cheap. And I won't apologize for that because the first time we did a sponsor deal with Shadow, they had a queue for their service for like four months. They were backordered. Like the LTT effect is real. You got a good product. You advertise online as tech tips.
Starting point is 01:09:35 You're going to win, son. So it ain't cheap. But I'm pretty sure we didn't single-handedly bankrupt them. Pasta says, love from Sweden. Any chance of more pink beanie? No. We said it was limited edition We didn't single-handedly bankrupt them. Pasta says, love from Sweden. Any chance of more pink beanies? No. We said it was limited edition and we will never.
Starting point is 01:09:53 That is my personal Linus Tech Tips guarantee to you. If we say that something is limited edition numbered, we will never make it again. I promise. 027 says, Linus best girl. Thanks, Zero. Trevor 426. 027 says Linus best girl thanks 0 Trevor 426 my first super chat I just wanted to share I've been saving money
Starting point is 01:10:12 since October to buy either a PS5 or a 5950X or an RTX 3090 how's that going for you thinking one of them would have been available by now now I can afford all of them but none of them are available oh boy yikes um daniel says thanks for the content payment for a refunded missing package that eventually arrived hey thanks daniel appreciate it appreciate it love that when people get great customer service from lttstore.com
Starting point is 01:10:41 and they feel obligated yeah maybe not obligated but they feel like it was so good that they want to reimburse us thank you so much tristan says take my money because merch ain't my style hey come on we've got stuff that's not just merch okay we got cable ties you can cable tie your shiz don't you like to cable tie this isn't our water bottles i mean i guess it's all merch because it's branded but like water bottles oh we got man we've got a new water bottle design that i'm pretty excited about i've heard about this yeah it's not there yet and i'm actually pretty stoked too the reels gazoos says how much would you pay me to get the linus meme face tattooed oh um wow you know what i think that's on you i'm not going to encourage anyone to make that decision adam west says desk mac desk mat update please looking at the 1200 by 600
Starting point is 01:11:37 we have literally i'm gonna just give you guys the number because whatever we have 40 000 units in order on order okay 40 000 units we are taking up as much of the capacity of the factory as we can we will get them as soon as we can there is nothing we can do to speed it up because like shipping is a nightmare worldwide right now so even though we're it's like ordering rtx 3080 So even though we're ordering, it's like ordering RTX 3080s. Like, yeah, we're ordering them. We'll get them when we get them, guys. But it's not for lack of us trying, okay? We are trying.
Starting point is 01:12:14 We know you want them. Guys, we sold through that first order so much faster than we expected. Trust me, it hurts me more than you that we have not had them to sell. Like, I could have doubled the verified actual gamer program if we'd had mouse pads to sell all this time. And on that note, thank you for tuning into the WAN Show.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Thank you for your super chats. Thank you for buying things at lttstore.com. If you have experience as a producer, don't forget to apply for our channel Superfund producer position. You'll find the links in the video description. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Not same bad time.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Oh, well, yeah, it'll be less bad. Same bad channel, though. Bye. Bye. Oh, it does have sound. Luke, I lied lied so i turned it down a bit okay cool i like them me too it's adorable yeah yeah we gotta get that yeah yeah all right we are off youtube

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