The WAN Show - Razer Got CAUGHT! - WAN Show January 14, 2022

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up ladies and gentlemen welcome to the WAN show we've got a fantastic show lined up for you all today our big topics this week are Razer has egg on their face due to the unqualified product they asked you to put on your face in other big news Nvidia dropped a new 12 gig version of the RTX 3080 and everyone definitely cared about that. What else we got today, Luke? Google calls for White House support to ensure that open source software projects are secure and you can mine crypto on your electric car. Wow. Wow. Great. I'm really excited about that i was just hoping
Starting point is 00:00:48 that there would be more things i could mine crypto on let's roll that intro yeah the comments about you are so funny luke has transcended all right why don't we jump right into our first topic which is of course what the heck is going on with the stream today luke is missing from the nipples down ladies and and gentlemen. Look, I'm holding him up. I'm holding him up here. Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Where'd you go? Where'd you go, dog? There's a person in my household who is sick, so we're trying to be safe, so I'm staying home. So I'm telecommuting today. Doing that safe stuff. Now, there were a couple people asking, well, why the heck didn't Linus just broadcast from home like you guys did and the answer is a because this is amazing and b because my computer is hardcore broken all right you're gonna want to subscribe to my
Starting point is 00:01:57 youtube channel that's youtube.com slash linus tech tips okay if you guys weren't familiar it's my youtube channel get subscribed over there because i'm gonna have a youtube short coming up over the weekend showing you guys the noise that my water cooling pump is making right now i i can do the noise for you luke do you want me to do the noise for you absolutely yes okay it sounds like this it sounds like a pretty cool car yeah that's a water pump that's the noise it makes and it actually it actually rattles my entire rack the entire thing is shaking now i'm not crapping on the lang d5 not by a long shot because that pump is probably nearly 15 years old so it's done its time it's done it it's done its duty sir It's done it. It's done its duty, sir. It is time to retire it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 So I've actually grabbed another one. I just ripped it out of some like pump reservoir combo thing that we had lying around at the office that has clearly never been used. And I'm going to replace it. And hopefully I'll have my computer up and running, but my machine is not running. So there was no way that we were going to be able to do this from home. Now, let's talk about the other big story of the week. Razer's masks, allegedly not as safe as advertised. The Zephyr and Zephyr Pro were originally marketed as N95 rated. So N95 means that 95% of airborne particles
Starting point is 00:03:30 should be filtered if you are wearing such a mask. But here's the thing, they actually have to be tested and certified by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. Naomi Wu, aka SexyCyborg, did a teardown and checked the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health to find out that the Zephyrs were not, in fact, N95 rated. So Razor said the filters used in the mask were tested for 95% particulate filtration efficiency, but the mask itself is not. And this is a problem for a number of reasons. Luke, why is that a problem? Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:09 If you have, if I had an N95 filter on my head, okay, then is that an N95 face accessory? Yes, partially for sure. Absolutely. Done. Solved. COVID immune. Solved problem.
Starting point is 00:04:24 See you later, COVID. This is going to fix the world. I just changed the world right there. I believe Spider-Man's eye covers are N95. The exhale port doesn't have anything stopping you from inhaling through it. A bit of an issue. So there's no filtration there. bit of an issue. So there's no filtration there. The filters themselves are actually pretty small and breathing through the mask in general is more difficult than a proper mask. There's also other bits of masks that you can breathe through that aren't covered by the filters themselves. Razer is removing all N95 references from their website and marketing. And customers who purchased a mask will be notified apparently okay so this is interesting
Starting point is 00:05:06 we just got a merch message from garrett i or l doesn't matter uh i asked for this pillow on twitter in june oh wait uh so thanks okay oh bought the expensive edition pillow we'll talk more about that later also razor is being a meanie about the mask. They are apparently refusing refunds, according to this user, and only doing returns after I really threw a fit. Apparently four reps said no. So that is all allegedly at this time because I have no way of verifying that. But if true, that is not cool right now.
Starting point is 00:05:40 If you pull the rug out from under your users in terms of the features or functionality of a product, if it's misleadingly labeled, you need to step up, do the right thing and accept the returns for it. Right. Like if you don't like that, then you shouldn't advertise it incorrectly. I don't know. This is not. Do you know if there's anyone in the office that has purchased one? I doubt it because doing a secret shopper thing where you try to return it would be pretty interesting it would be interesting i mean honestly this is this is a story i feel like has been long enough that i'm i
Starting point is 00:06:18 think i'm just not gonna worry about telling it i don't i don I don't care anymore. I honestly, I'm at a point in my career where I just don't really give a **** anymore. So, um, this is not the first time that Razer has misled anybody, you know, um, they, they, they are, they're not exactly known for being 100% forthright about the materials that they're using in their products. I mean, I had an incident where, I'm not gonna name any names, but a high-ranking Razer executive who I used to communicate with fairly regularly misled me about the origin of the Razer switches in their original mechanical keyboards
Starting point is 00:07:04 that had Razer switches in their original mechanical keyboards that had Razer switches. I was told, maybe not to my face, since technically it was a phone call, but I was told flat out in no uncertain terms that Razer had engineered their own switches. switches and it's one of those things where you know as a as an enthusiast and as a um as a skeptic as a lifelong skeptic maybe i wasn't a cynic yet but definitely a skeptic at that point now i'm a cynic i i i smelled bs and you know there were a lot of signs that razor had not in fact invented their own keyboard switch like say for example the fact that they had completely recycled wholesale the diagram from Cherry's website showing how the plunger mechanism worked in the switch I mean you remember that Luke do you
Starting point is 00:07:57 remember that it was ridiculous and no matter how many times I prodded and pressed, this individual insisted, insisted that they had researched and developed their own switches. And I went, I don't believe you. And so what I did is in the video that we ultimately made about that keyboard, I basically just, I actually don't remember exactly what I said because I was torn. I was either going to say they're Kiowa switches, which ultimately is what they ended up being, or I was just going to say they're Razer switches. They're a Cherry clone. They're being manufactured by someone else, obviously, other than Cherry, because Cherry would not even consider putting Razor branding on their switches. Get real. I don't remember exactly what I said, but I basically just I decided not to go after them about it because you never know. Right. Sometimes miscommunications happen and an executive might think something and they're just there. It's possible they're completely ignorant of the situation. And you don't want to, you don't want the actions of one individual to necessarily turn
Starting point is 00:09:11 into an attack against an entire company when the odds are I could have talked to just about anyone else and they might have been more knowledgeable about the situation. The point is that misunderstandings can happen. And I had decided at that time to give the benefit of the doubt. But, you know, seeing this situation now, I'm kind of looking at it going, you know, once is potentially a fluke. Dev Snack says, Razer's website still says this. Razer switches stand at the forefront of keyboard technology and innovation since creating our own mechanical gaming switches in 2014 we have continued to refine and design a variety of switches to suit every gamer and his needs well okay we got a couple problems with this number one um okay you didn't create your
Starting point is 00:09:57 own mechanical gaming switches in 2014 they branded them you made a spec tweak That's a huge contribution To an existing Switch And number two, his needs Razer That is not very 2022 of you Yeah, that's actually That is actually not good Every gamer and his needs They should probably change that
Starting point is 00:10:20 Twitch Twitch is already flipping out over it Before I even called them on it oh no oh no rod rod from bs mods yikes girl gamers dot dot dot i i guess they just can't buy from razor anymore right i know right because it's only for his needs gonna have to support a better company razor did a sexism yeah it's one of it's one of those things i um i i i'm honestly not gonna call to cancel razor over over a misplaced pronoun that they probably put on their website many years ago but um you know i i do think they could improve their product messaging to make it more transparent and And this N95 Razor mask situation is a perfect example of that.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So, Luke, did you run through the issues while I was thinking about this keyboard thing? I forget. Yeah, we're already through them all. Okay, so Razor's removing the N95 references. I mean, the discussion question on this one from Plouffe is, what should the repercussions be in a situation like this where the damage is already done? I mean, it's been marketed with that N95 moniker for nearly a year. So there are conceivably people
Starting point is 00:11:37 out there who wore this mask thinking that it was going to protect them from a dangerous disease who potentially were not protected from a dangerous disease but it probably did a lot more than just having nothing on their face i mean they've demonstrated time and time again that not just breathing into each other's faces is beneficial even if it's not properly filtered. So how do you measure, how do you measure the damage that's been done here? Yeah, I don't know. It's pretty intense. It's one of the reasons why like companies in general should be very wary of jumping into health and safety stuff when it's not their field and they don't have expertise in it. safety stuff when it's not their field and they don't have expertise in it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Especially when you're dealing with things like claiming that you have N95, whatever, claiming that there's a certain minimum level of something. If you're making like those plastic face shields, that's one thing. You're making clear plastic and it goes in front of your face. You can see exactly where it covers. That's pretty straightforward. When the like beer and other various alcohol companies started pivoting and making hand cleaning stuff, that was fairly straightforward as well. Making filtration masks is pretty intense and probably should have been done much more carefully. And I'm not personally surprised
Starting point is 00:13:05 that Razer was not careful when they did it. Well, the biggest self-own here is just that there are certification bodies that absolutely exist for these products and they just didn't go through the proper channels. Yeah, they just didn't bother. So at the very least, it's negligent. I don't know that it's malicious uh if anything
Starting point is 00:13:26 i think i've gotten more of a careless uh it won't matter kind of vibe from razors errors over the years as opposed to a uh you know we fully understand the the problems with what we're doing and we're going to do it anyway kind of vibe but carol you know a careless driver that plows into a pedestrian uh is is it are they really has the damage any less than a malicious driver that plows into a pedestrian i don't know you that's a that's the debate i'll leave for the philosophers in other news this week nvidia has dropped a new 12 gig 3080 luke oh so exciting were you thinking you know what i need a ga 102 gpu that costs more yes yeah yeah is that what you're after and that is better for mining and that's better for money okay i wasn't even going to go there yet, but we can get into it. It sports 8,960 CUDA cores over the 8,704-cored 10-gigabyte variant, plus 256 just in case,
Starting point is 00:14:35 as well as 20% more cumulative bandwidth than the 10-gigabyte variant of the 3080 due to a 384-bit memory bus. 3080 due to a 384 bit memory bus there's a clock speed bump to base clock is up 180 megahertz and boost clock nudges up 40 megahertz that's actually like pretty substantial on the base clock yeah the note says that too yeah but these cards almost never run at base clock unless you're like suffocating them so there's that that's fair yeah base clock improves by 14 but boost clock is only up two percent blah blah um it's it's it's funky it's weird this 12 gigabyte rtx 3080 arrives just days after the company announced a new rtx 3090 ti with faster memory and better performance and oh this hurts to say because the really high-end cars being really expensive is one thing but a rtx 3050 for 249 bucks rough the 12 gig 3080 pricing will be determined largely by board
Starting point is 00:15:39 partners evj has priced its own rtx 3080 12 gig at 1249 dollars um but they're potentially not even going to be showing up in north america we have a weird note about that i'm not certain if that is for that specific brand or if that's for all of them in general um but it doesn't matter because you're probably not going to get them anyways nice so you know what's really funny is i was going to contradict you there and i realized that you're not the one who's crazy i'm the one who's crazy you were going through the cards that nvidia released recently going oh well there's the 3090 ti and there's the rtx 3050 for 250 and you were outraged and i was about to jump in and say that's a great deal but i mean what did the like let's go back let's go back a couple of generations
Starting point is 00:16:37 like what did a gtx 950 cost yeah i'm gonna look this up because i don't remember the gtx 950 launched in 2015 at 159 dollars you're not crazy i'm crazy nvidia has managed to take that tier of product and increase the msrp which by the way is not necessarily representative of the price you will actually pay by hold on a second oh bloody hell i don't know how to use a calculator so 249 over 159 they've managed to increase the price by 50 to 60 percent and by the time you factor in your your super clocks and ko and you KO, all your different variants of the card, you could easily be paying nearly double for the same tier of card that just seven short years ago was available for $150. you know something that you could that as a kid in high school you could conceivably work a side hustle and save up for in some reasonable amount of time and you know get your game on you know
Starting point is 00:17:52 what i mean now obviously it's going to be a lot it's going to be a lot faster than that card you know technology's come a long way in the last seven years so i'm not saying hey you should go buy a gtx 950 or anything like that. I'm just saying that we've clearly been conditioned to accept that, you know, I mean, $250. Holy, holy bananas. $250 for a sub 60 graphics card. That's my thing. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Like that's nuts. I don't remember how much the 8800 GT cost when it launched. I think around 300 bucks. No, I think it was less, Luke. I think that NVIDIA, after they launched it and realized, holy crap, we just completely irrelevanted our entire rest of our product line. I think they increased it. Yeah, the 512 meg version the higher end version
Starting point is 00:18:45 was 250 so going back 10 years prior 250 bought you from nvidia a flagship killer card and nowadays 250 buys you literally the lowest tier GeForce card in their entire current lineup that they begrudgingly over a year later finally brought out to get more volume of cards into the hands of gamers instead of focusing on their higher margin, higher MSRP cards. That's crazy. Okay, Snap 725 says, all caps, inflation. And that's a fair point. Let's head to a US inflation calculator. Okay, so let's have a look here, right? The thing is, though, inflation is a funny thing. Because inflation for housing, for example, is a really different number from inflation for food, from inflation for tech. I mean, if you were to look at something like TVs or actually even personal computers as a whole, I was looking at a flyer from London Drugs from like 1995, right? This is back in the Pentium era, right?
Starting point is 00:20:07 And to buy a fully equipped desktop setup was like four or five grand. And that was just what a computer cost. Non-gaming home computers, four or five grand, yeah. Having a personal computer was absolutely not a given. So according to the inflation calculator, that 8800GT, your flagship killer step-down card that comes a little bit later,
Starting point is 00:20:32 should cost you $336. What kind of modern GPU can you buy for $336? And the other thing to consider is that in some areas of tech, we've actually got more of an opposite inflation thing going on. I mean mean how much did a 42 inch tv cost 20 years ago riddle me that what's a 42 inch tv cost today a fraction so if anything it should be possible for technology to buck that trend i mean even
Starting point is 00:21:01 intel who's not exactly known for giving consumers a deal just out of the goodness of their hearts. You go back to something like, you know, the Pentium 4 back when I first got into enthusiast computing. You know, you could get a Pentium 4 Northwood, like, so this is like a, what is it? Northwood's Pentium 4C, I i guess was the last generation of p4 before amd made it completely irrelevant with the f164 so that would have been in like 2004 2005 it was like 500 bucks for an entry-level p4 and intel all these years later it's still like 500 bucks for an entry-level like like core i7 i mean an entry-level enthusiast chip you know what i mean so i i think it's possible to buck this trend but i mean hey why do that when you when you don't have to right like if i'm nvidia the corporation i'm doing a great job right now
Starting point is 00:21:57 finding ways to condition my users and really the entire market to think that this is what gaming should cost i guess that's really all i have to say about that i remember before i was into computers i was i was pretty young um i was i was looking into buying my first computer for myself um this was like this was my i had worked a summer job in a pizzeria uh because i was like 13 like this was this was pretty early uh it's the first time i was ever looking into computer components i was trying to talk to a lot of my trying to talk to a lot of my friends about it like my brother's friends because they were older and more experienced with computer stuff um because i haven't really discovered internet computer forums yet and whatnot and one person told me a decent rule of thumb would be for your for your somewhat
Starting point is 00:22:55 important components and to remember i had like no money for your somewhat important components spend about 100 bucks each sure and I roughly followed that for my first... I ended up shifting things around because I ended up finding forums and stuff. But that was actually not a bad rule to get a working, usable gaming computer at that time. That's so nuts now. It's kind of sad.
Starting point is 00:23:23 JR6955 says, Hey, despite the rising costs over the last years xboxes and playstations still cost the same now that's a little misleading because nvidia unlike microsoft and sony doesn't get to continue to make money on you after you own the product at least not to the same degree. I mean, I don't know what they're doing with everyone logging into GeForce Experience necessarily. There might be ways for them to monetize that data. I legitimately have no idea.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'm not accusing them of anything. I just don't know. But compared to what Microsoft and Sony are able to get in terms of residuals through game sales or, and with Microsoft so focused on Game Pass monthly subscriptions, it just doesn't even begin to touch it. There's a reason that Sony and Microsoft are just trying to shift boxes rather than worrying about making money on them. But that was always true, right? Especially for Sony, who hasn't shaken up the business model to nearly the same degree that Microsoft has.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So yeah, what is up with that? Right? Yeah. Jaden mentions that phones have been creeping ever upwards as well. Oh yeah. Remember when the OnePlus One launched? What did the OnePlus One cost? Like $200?
Starting point is 00:24:44 A lot cheaper than they are now it's getting to the point where like it's really rough 299 like a lot of these phones by the time you're a year and a half to two years into them the battery is starting to feel really bad uh there's probably a lot of other very noticeable issues and stuff like that and it's it's rough to replace a phone that's like a grand or more when it only lasts like a year and a half to two years in a good state. Yeah, so you can obviously use it for longer than that. Yeah, I think that's something I'd really like the lab
Starting point is 00:25:12 to spend some time on because there are a lot of budget phones out there. Like on the one hand, yes, phones have gotten crazy expensive. It costs like $1,300, $1,400 for a flagship now. That wasn't a thing not that long ago. You could get a flagship iPhone for $700 like $1,300, $1,400 for a flagship now. That wasn't a thing not that long ago. You could get a flagship iPhone for $700, $800 not that many years ago. When the first phone cracked that $1,000 barrier, everyone went, and then they just marched right through it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:39 Samsung has a phone for two grand now, Z Fold 3, right? But on the flip side of that, phones have also gotten cheaper than ever. You can get a full on smartphone with, you know, like a big touchscreen and everything for like a hundred bucks, a hundred and low dollars off contract. I mean, that would have been insane too, six, seven years ago. So there's been this split. And one of the things that I would like the lab to do is figure out which of those value phones are actually not awful so that we can have solid recommendations to give people. is that unless the carriers are aggressively monetizing your data, like NVIDIA, they are in a position where the modern business world is expecting companies to have recurring revenue from their customers. I mean, look what's happened to Adobe's stock ever since they launched Creative Cloud, right?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Compared to when they used to sell you a discrete perpetual license for each new version of the software. Shareholders love recurring revenue and that's why Nvidia is trying to build out stuff like their cloud gaming service because that way they can continue to sell you the same GPU over and over and over and over and over again. Sure it's at a lower price but over and over and over and over again. So if you want to sell things that the customer ultimately actually owns, like a phone from a carrier that, or from a brand that doesn't benefit on the backend,
Starting point is 00:27:15 like Apple does through the App Store or Google does through the Play Store, then you do kind of have to keep driving up prices because you look at the profitability of Android phones and how much consolidation there's been in that market. It's clearly they're not making that much money, right? Like that's the really scary thing is how many dead bodies litter the path that we have ultimately found ourselves on. Yes, the prices have gone like this, but in spite of that, so many competitors have just died off along the way most recently and uh speaking of like like prominent ones lg just abandon it or like forget it we can't do this that i think that was a pretty intense market share percentage thing though lg phones were such a small subsection of
Starting point is 00:28:01 the market absolutely but you would think if there's enough margin in the product, they could buy some market share, get aggressive on pricing. But clearly, there's not enough margin. Traditionally, I don't know, pricing is a really interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And I think pricing for phones especially is a really interesting thing because I think people will go into a store and they'll look at an iPhone and they'll see the pricing of the iPhone. And they'll look at the Android phones
Starting point is 00:28:24 and the ones that aren't priced near the price of the iPhone. I think a lot of market research is not done and they just assume they're really bad. Unless it's priced like the iPhone, it's probably garbage. I know people that have shopped that way i mean there's no doubt in my mind that apple absolutely creates a perception of value in every market segment they move into i mean you look you look at the way that people looked at headphones right like 10 years ago 15 years ago outside of the audiophile community, the idea of spending $300, $400, $500 on headphones, it's crazy. Insane.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's crazy. People just used whatever earbuds came with their Walkman. That was the norm. Or with their iPod, right? They just used whatever. It was iconic. People were just walking around with their white $14 right? Like they just used whatever. Like it was iconic. People were just walking around with their white $1499 Apple earphones.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That was it. Apple comes in, they go, hey, over the ear headphones. Well, actually Beats changed the game really before Apple did, but Apple has taken it up another level. Apple comes in, they say, hey, look, earbuds are now worth $150 or $250 in the
Starting point is 00:29:46 case of the AirPods Pros. Over-the-ear wireless earphones, they're now worth, what is it, $549 or something for the AirPods Max. I can't remember the pricing in US dollars because I'm a filthy Canadian. But the point is that Apple walks into a category, declares it now to be worth spending a ton of money for, they normalize that, and then everyone else ultimately reaps the benefit other than consumers. Their competitors reap the benefit, which I've always found to just be a fascinating pattern because there's no reason that someone other than Apple couldn't do this. I mean, remember back, again, this is probably back about 10 years ago, when so many laptops had gross TN panel screens, right? Just awful. IPS displays freaking existed, but it wasn't until...
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah, they accepted it for laptops at that time. They were TN and they were low resolution. It was normal to find a 1366 by 768 15-inch laptop display. And it looked atrocious. And all it took was for Apple to come in and say, Retina, create a value to high resolution displays that you can't make out you know every single pixel this big and all of a sudden everyone else goes okay I guess it's I guess it's time I guess it's I guess people will like this well no you should
Starting point is 00:31:15 have known people would like it before Apple told them to like it and you should have gone and been the trailblazer but I say that and then you look at a company like oh oh shoot who were those guys that made the first true wireless earphones help me out it was a kickstarter we did a video about them the dash braggy the dash how'd that work out for them do they still exist braggy oh that's a wikipedia article for some nor, Skeldic god of poetry or something. Bragi, the platform that, what, something? What is happening here?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Bragi OS, outperforming the giants? Full control with your beautiful OS? I have no idea what they have pivoted to but where there would normally be a buy button there is now a let's talk button whatever that's that's concerning that means solutions ecosystem what even is this concept customization manufacturing? What even? I don't even understand what they do. Okay, so they're like a consulting firm for... Oh, you know what? They probably license IP for wireless audio then.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Because I'm sure they won some patents as part of creating the Dash. Man, don't you love websites where you just have no freaking idea what the company actually does? Yep. I just can't. I don't know what to do with it. Like, no, I'm not going to send you an email. Like, how ass backwards is that? I'm going to send you an email like how how ass
Starting point is 00:33:05 backwards is that I'm going to send you an email to find out what the heck it is that you do but anyway yeah so being the first mover hey not necessarily a huge advantage in the rapidly moving space of consumer electronics um all right why don't we go ahead and jump into our next topic why don't why don't i manage those incoming messages and uh you jump into a topic for us luke i feel like i've talked a lot here i am dealing with a currently evolving situation uh that we should actually discuss about on the show but uh we should actually we should talk about some merch messages and we should probably talk about the thing that tons of people are buying no plans for brian the electrician merch we love brian but we don't need to monetize him so it's not cheap but then i never promised it would be in fact it's so expensive
Starting point is 00:33:58 that you guys will now understand why i ultimately originally canned this product. The original intention, okay, for the CPU pillow was to fill it with 100% alpaca wool. And I saw the price and I went, no, no one will buy this. No one would be crazy enough for this. So we did a blend. We did an alpaca wool and regular stuffing blend for the regular green CPU pillows. And then we sold so many of those that I was like, yeah, and there was this time that, you know, we thought about doing, you know, an alpaca one. Wouldn't it be funny if we did an extreme edition one? And then you guys were like, yes, do it.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So we finally did it. It's black, gray, and gold, which by the way, Intel is what extreme editions should have always been. They should have always had a black substrate because that would have been so much cooler. They are otherwise the same as the other pillows, but they are 100% alpaca wool for that amazing squishy feeling. Guys, to be clear, these are not bed pillows. These are not like head pillows they're not really even intended for you to sleep on them these are decorative pillows but these are going
Starting point is 00:35:11 to be the bougiest tech decorative pillows on the market i i promise you that much just like the originals they have a little uh hidden pocket where can, I don't know, keep your things you like to hide or whatever. There's no seal on the pocket, so the dogs would definitely be able to sniff whatever's in there. But there's a pocket and it's on LTTstore.com and it's not cheap we actually we actually named it the expensive edition pillow which was inspired by the um the original nickname for intel's extreme edition cpus so they call them xe now for extreme edition but originally it was ee for extreme edition so that was how they denoted them in the product name so we decided hey we're going to carry on decided, hey, we're going to carry on the EE. We're going to carry on the EE legacy
Starting point is 00:36:09 because that effectively is what it is. So, okay, sorry. So we nicknamed them. Back when they were EE for Extreme Edition, we nicknamed them in the enthusiast community, Expensive Edition. So we're carrying on that tradition. This is the cpu pillow expensive
Starting point is 00:36:25 edition so uh hope you guys enjoy it oh uh oh man there's a lot of holy crap there's a lot of these coming in luke are you look into that i can start talking about the currently developing issue sure why don't you hit it so earlier this week uh pretty early in the morning i got a call from apple um i i knew it was a call from apple because i've received a call from apple exactly one other time although i actually knew it was coming that time uh and your phone comes up with just apple as the caller id so i was like that's interesting. So I do that. I pick it up. And I wanted to, I was very interested in what this was about. We've complained about Apple a lot publicly to do with our iOS app. So I assumed it had something to do with that. And it did. My customer service
Starting point is 00:37:20 agent told me not long before this that he had dealt with a very interesting ticket where someone had cc'd Tim Cook. And I just kind of laughed and was like, okay, whatever. And we moved on. I'm sure this person also did other things other than just cc'ing Tim Cook, because they said they were going to try to contact people. And what they were trying to do was actually help us. They were trying to contact people at Apple to try to push them to allow us to take third-party payments through the app. What the customer service agent said,
Starting point is 00:37:58 which is now much more relevant due to the stuff that has literally happened since we sat down to do this show. Give me one second to find it. I'm feeling very apprehensive right now luke i would like this story to continue in an expedient matter okay um it's it's okay everything's okay is the final answer um thank you that helps everything ends up being fine that's very good to know. So customer service agent guy says, something that is, okay, where is it? We also can't collect payments on iOS
Starting point is 00:38:34 due to lack of support for third-party payment solutions, Stripe and PayPal, which is a little wacky and I've already talked to him about it, whatever. The problem is for, and it was a pretty confusing phone call in a few ways. If we do Apple Pay, they take 30%. If we do in-app payments, which is different than Apple Pay,
Starting point is 00:38:54 they take 30%. We can apply for a small business thing. We've talked about this on WAN Show before, actually. Like the small developer thing where it's, yeah, it's like less as long as you're under a million dollars before, actually. Like the small developer thing where it's less as long as you're under a million dollars revenue. Yes. So you have to apply for it. We would probably get in, but they take 15% unless you break that $1 million revenue mark, and then it goes up
Starting point is 00:39:17 to 30. And our problem with that is our margins are actually pretty thin. If they're taking 30% on a, I believe, I don't remember how I did the math. I don't remember if it was for a $3 subscription or a $5 subscription, but at one of those two marks, because our costs are fixed, the creators just make whatever
Starting point is 00:39:36 on top of our costs that they charge. But there's no margin left, essentially. At 30%, there's no margin left. So if we somehow broke that million-dollar revenue threshold, we would immediately just make nothing off of all the Apple stuff. So it's not really an option for us. Joining the small business thing doesn't save us because once we break past that threshold, we're potentially screwed.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I did ask, and they didn't know right off the top of their head, and I didn't expect them to because they weren't a master of this section of it. But the person that I was talking to on the phone wasn't sure if the 30% applied to only payments that were past the 1 million, like taxes, or if it was all payments, but either way, it doesn't it doesn't work for us. So we can't do that. But we talked about a bunch of stuff on the phone, because we talked about how we've had a lot of problems with the app in the past. With them trying to use our login for other things. With them denying our app for six months through a variety of different versions.
Starting point is 00:40:32 For no reason. And I talked about how a lot of these different problems, we don't know if they're actually problems or not. People in the public have told us that we're allowed to do certain things with iOS apps. We have then tried to do them and we have had our app denied for them. We have done the exact same thing that other large apps on the iOS store have done to try to get around it that way. And they have denied our app. At one point in time, we took to the exact error text from Netflix to just like, we know this is a massive app. Let's just do it the exact same way they do it. And we got denied because it wasn't allowed. Like I went through all that
Starting point is 00:41:11 kind of stuff and they were good. The person on the phone was very reasonable, very understanding. Yeah. It was a good phone call. But I was airing a lot of grievances and they were good at dealing with it. But one of the things that they said was multiple times was that the app in its current state is fine and i was like yeah i know because it like just got approved but like i'm not really happy with where it's at because we can't communicate to people the whole problem where this was rooted in the person's problem that they had was they weren't a subscriber on floatplane yet they installed the app on ios and then the warning was confusing to them because we can't tell them to go to floatplane.com to subscribe not allowed so we're still not allowed to do that so we can't resolve the core problem they want us to enable in-app purchases but there's the whole 30% things
Starting point is 00:42:00 we can't really do that so we're kind of just stuck where we were but i hopefully have a better understanding of the rules now which is good uh except while we were on the show we got an email and again multiple times they said the app in its current state is fine while we were on the show i got an email saying your app floatplane does not follow the app store review guidelines your floatplane app apple id does not follow one or more of the app store review guidelines for more details uh or contact app store review visit the resolution center and i was like oh my goodness this happened literally during the show so while you were sitting there talking about a different topic i bring up the resolution center to figure out like what's wrong with our app.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And it's a nicely written email from the person I was on the phone with following up with a few references and documentation that I wanted so that I could better understand a few things. But they sent it through the Resolution Center, so our app is now flagged. Why? So our app is now flagged. It's nice. They're a nice person. It's a well-written, thank you for your time on the phone today,
Starting point is 00:43:18 blah, blah, blah, as discussed. Here's a bunch of different links for a variety of different things that will help me in the future. It's nice. I wanted this. I wanted it as an email. I did not want it as a resolution center, like your app is now flagged as not following guidelines thing.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I think our app is still up on the store. Oh, wow. My camera just fell. Welcome back. I caught it. Hold on. Oh, Luke. I had nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I wasn't there. That was not my fault. I dropped nothing. Wow. That was actually really close. It almost, it would would have if it actually falls from where it is it'll whack its lens on the the uh mount of my monitor so that would be bad but anyways i just i don't know what to do at this point guys i we released a an update recently for ios so notifications work properly through iOS now, which is cool. They approved it actually very quickly. It hit the store very quickly. We haven't had
Starting point is 00:44:28 issues since the last time we complained about it. I think the app is still up on the store. I'm going to have to send in an appeal for this informational letter that was sent in to make sure that that flag gets removed. Because right now, if I go to like my admin panel for the iOS store, it says, it has a big warning thing that says there are one or more issues with following platforms, one unresolved iOS issue. It's again, it's probably fine, but this is just like, oh man, it's such a mess.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah, it's painful. And people that use in-app payments have to pay 30% for this trash heap and like to be clear it's a problem on both sides android is having tons of issues recently as well these app stores are just horrid oh i guess i'll luckily i didn't mind the conversation so hopefully we can have another one and get it resolved. In other news, the show is brought to you by Zoho CRM. Thanks to Zoho CRM for sponsoring this video.
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Starting point is 00:48:15 and type in WAN. ShipStation. Make ship happen. All right. What else do we want to talk about today, Mr. Luke? About how Google calls for the White House to support ensuring open source projects are secure. What does the White House have to do with open source software? I actually don't really know.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I thought this was really interesting. I skimmed through it and still didn't really understand it. To go over some of the notes, the White House hosted a summit on Thursday with big tech companies to discuss how to make open source software more secure. The meeting featuring Google, Facebook, Amazon, Oracle, and more comes in the wake of the devastating log4j vulnerability
Starting point is 00:48:55 that seemed to affect just about every tech company on the planet. Generally, open source software or OSS or FOSS, which is a little bit different, is considered more secure because the code can be viewed by the public. Yes, absolutely. This means that issues are often spotted and fixed quickly, unlike in private scenarios where we have seen companies do nothing until pressured by the media, like when the Equifax data breach in 2017. That was actually
Starting point is 00:49:20 that was huge. And this is a big reason to use open source software, but it doesn't, like with Log4j, it doesn't make everything immune to it. It just helps because there's more eyes on it. These open source software projects are run by volunteers and sort of, or companies that are backing them, but whatever, often run by volunteers, I think we should say. And maintaining code and making sure it is secure
Starting point is 00:49:46 is very difficult work and requires a lot of time. Absolutely. Most open source software projects rely on private donations and funding can be very sparse. Again, usually, yes, and they did say most, some open source software projects are backed by massive companies like Apple, like Google, like Facebook, etc cetera. Sometimes huge consortiums of enormous companies. Yes, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Google's Kent Walker said, for too long, the software community has taken comfort in the assumption that open source software is generally secure due to its transparency and the assumption that many eyes were watching to detect and resolve problems. But in fact, while some projects do have many eyes were watching to detect and resolve problems. But in fact, while some projects do have many eyes on them, others have few or none at all.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I really, this is where like, I read that part too. And I'm like, yeah. And if I'm like 14, and I released some open source stuff, I mean, some developers at 14 are absolute wizards. But if I'm like, haha, this open source software thing can tell me when my mom drives in the parking lot. I don't think the government should have to make sure that's secure. I have no idea. Google is asking that the U.S. government step in and assist in funding the open source projects that have become critical to so many companies. Ah, they want more money from the government. Got it. Android is developed okay
Starting point is 00:51:06 android is developed on open source software to ensure there's proper oversight and the code is updated uh my care about this just went from like four out of a hundred to zero um at the moment it is unclear what kind of action will be taken by the u.s government or big tech companies but this is a good first step in making our tech more secure. I don't think just throwing more money at Apple, Google, and Facebook is a good first step. What kind of open source software do you use in everyday life? Have you donated? I have donated to some open source projects.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I use such a massive list that... I should donate to more, honestly. Yeah. I really should. I don't think i've ever donated to obs for example i definitely should i mean the amount of pretty good point the amount of money being made in the streaming space right like did you see that stream labs raised like a hundred million dollars i'm looking at this going what yeah well how does that number make any sense i i don't i don't get it um but i mean apparently there's enough money floating around in that space like to be clear yes i stream but like come on we we do one live podcast episode a week like this is not a streaming operation um so i i was i was blown away to see a number like that for a streaming services provider i i just don't i just didn't understand
Starting point is 00:52:34 it um so i i i guess it probably makes sense that obs should like maybe make some money so maybe i should just do that yeah and you've actually mentioned that off stream before too and i think that would be a good idea um i've donated to a few in real life oh that's why obs was on the tip of my tongue i actually did i actually did i donated to them recently because we talked about it yeah because of the uh the the the what was it? That stupid OBS. The Streamlabs thing. Oh, yeah. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:53:07 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You were like 99% of the way there. You got it. Wait, maybe it's not Streamlabs that raised $100 million. Who was it then? I was emailing some stream.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Hold on. While you look that up, there's another question here that says, what kind of open source software is used by flowplane lots of stuff we also stream elements stream elements raised 100 million sorry correction stream elements raised 100 million stream labs are the jack butts that prompted me to donate to obs because they ripped off their software and branding because they were buttheads there you go thanks guys uh skhs video production asks why was that one message red uh how are they color-coded luke the merch messages uh i think people are selecting i if you spend over a certain amount which i don't fully remember what the amount is i think it's 100 bucks um conrad will probably
Starting point is 00:54:04 correct me here in a moment. But if you spend over a certain amount, you get a little menu that lets you pick what color you want the background to be. I'm pretty sure that's how it's currently functioning. Got it. I'm sure Conrad will ping me. What's some other open source stuff that you use all the time that you feel
Starting point is 00:54:20 like you should probably donate to? Man. I use paint.net every week to make the land show thumbnail yeah rbs is open right now you know who i did donate to though uh christopher vander moten or whatever uh who makes the um the uh the drop shadow plugin that I use for Paint.net. I was like, I can't believe Paint.net doesn't have drop shadows by default. Thank you for making this plugin. I think I donated like 50 bucks or something like that. I was like, this saves my life because I don't want to learn how to use Photoshop just to put a stupid drop shadow on something.
Starting point is 00:55:03 This is like eight years ago or whatever, whenever we started actually doing thumbnails for the WAN show. just to put a stupid like drop shadow on something this is like eight years ago or whatever whenever we started actually doing thumbnails for the wan show the one of the problems with talking about open source and talking about donating for open source is because is is that there's such a wide range like like for floatplane like like aj mentioned and and jayden mentioned like we yeah we knew we use no js and like a billion or aj joked only a billion i think we're at two billion now uh we use a lot of plugins for for node.js as well and we use a lot of other open source stuff and we contribute to a decent amount of open source stuff too personally if i
Starting point is 00:55:37 try to exclude work um man i mean we just got off the Linux challenge. There's a lot of stuff included in that. I was still using Ubuntu and Mint for a while after the Linux challenge was technically over and I would like to go back someday. There's been a lot of stuff I've used in like little automation things on my own personal computer. There's been a lot of different weird stuff for games.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I don't know if you remember, but one night, the Floatplane team played Among Us, and we used this weird little open source voice project thing so that there was proximity voice in the game. That's cool. Were you there? I thought you were there. Maybe you weren't there um but yeah we we used this plugin thing so that you could talk to each other in game you just
Starting point is 00:56:30 couldn't use discord and you could only talk to each other if you were like right next to each other um so it made it like kind of realistic which was interesting that's cool there's lots of little things like that that are that are pretty awesome uh pretty awesome yeah there's even there's even stuff like that people should consider contributing to that isn't necessarily open source um but it's a private project that people are not charging for it's free software right or it's a free service or a free website or whatever um and if you use it actively you should you should genuinely consider contributing towards it i one big one that's that's probably on a lot of people's minds right now is the uh bringing back the youtube dislike
Starting point is 00:57:10 button um oh yeah that's a big one right now a lot of work has gone into that and i bet you a lot of you are using that and i bet you a lot of you are benefiting from that so yeah there's another really cool open source youtube related project we've got a video coming about it soon. Theo Joe, of all people, created a, I don't know if I'd call it a script or a program. It's something. And what it does is it interacts with the YouTube API to check all of the comments on your channel or on your most recent videos um and put them through like a spam scrub and then remove them from the channel and it can do it in like a minute the fact that
Starting point is 00:57:53 that took a community member to make that is so youtube this is like deeply disappointing like how that's so google like come on oh my goodness someone made a comment the other day is that that was like yeah we definitely needed the dislike buttons to go away for for creator mental health when this is what my comment section looks like and it was literally bots replying to each other yeah that's my favorite different things like and then eventually they talk about like the guru that helped them through a tough time in their life or something and it's like okay this is who we're advertising life coach or you know crypto guru or something like that yeah oh my goodness i just yeah i'm dying here um should we go through some merch messages we have a lot here we could do like a few now and then...
Starting point is 00:58:45 We should do a couple. Let's not focus on the ones that are about merch. Let's focus on the ones that are more like video topics. Spencer asks, try and game on IBM slash any POS system. I actually did a video a little while ago where I gamed on a 25-year-old laptop. Lots of fun.
Starting point is 00:59:05 But the thing is that without the nostalgia factor of playing games that I actually used to play on a computer like that, there's not really a whole lot that I can contribute with something like that. Yeah. I don't know how much you could contribute necessarily, but there's the whole doom challenge thing where you try to get doomed to run on just like anything. Um, it could be interesting, but yeah. Um, anonymous asks, would you ever consider
Starting point is 00:59:32 adding more content to your build videos about the jank and the things that didn't work? Sometimes we do behind the scenes on float plane, like we'll do cutting room floor, uh, clips and that they'll, they'll show, you know, stuff that's too hot for TV in some cases, like stuff we couldn't really upload to YouTube because we just don't need the general public seeing it or, you know, little deeper explanations into how we solve the particular problem. There's not always a ton of that, but there is a little bit. We try to plan our projects more now so that that doesn't happen that much. Brian C asks, hey, it's been a couple of years since the Thinking of Retiring video. How do you feel now? Lately, you've been
Starting point is 01:00:10 looking like you're having a lot of fun with the lab and videos. I mean, really, it was it was an attitude adjustment at that time. And you know, that's ultimately the conclusion that I came to in the 10 million subscriber stream was, you know, I have the best job in the world. And I, I have to, I have to want to keep doing it because I want to, I can't just focus on how I'm stuck doing it, because I've got dozens of people that are relying on me to keep doing this. And you know what, honestly, sometimes it's still a a grind it's no secret that content creators burn out left and right and I can tell you guys there's a good reason for it for the smaller ones I feel like a lot of it is just feeling like they have the whole world on their shoulders and every video
Starting point is 01:00:59 they upload is this expression of themselves that even if 99% of the feedback is positive, that 1% just gets right under your skin because it's such a personal attack when you create something and someone goes out of their way to tell you how terrible it was. So I think there's a lot of that. And then on the other side of the spectrum, the ones that have scaled up like us and built teams where no, the whole thing doesn't rest on their shoulders in terms of the content. Well, there's a different kind of pressure because for me, the big one is trying to figure out how to make sure that every person under this roof and many not under this roof. I mean, I'm not going to name names, obviously, because this is people's
Starting point is 01:01:41 personal life situations. But I know that there are families of people who work here where there's one income supporting that family. And it comes from Linus Media Group Incorporated, right? That check has to arrive. It's got to arrive in full and on time. And that's something that puts a lot of pressure on me sometimes to to take a deal that I don't feel like doing or to tackle a project that is going to require me to lose sleep over but it's and and it's exhausting to be clear I'm not complaining like I said in that video I have the best damn job in the world and you guys are you guys are what make it possible. But that doesn't mean that it's not a job, right? That doesn't mean that I'm not tired sometimes.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So yeah, I'm tired. I'm still tired. I'm more tired, probably. But I am trying to channel that tiredness into innovation. And that's where I think I have a lot of fun with LTT store creating, like finding problems. This, this shirt that I'm wearing right now is so freaking awesome because we had a problem with getting supply of good quality hoodies in, you know, colors that we wanted with a good fit, good materials. Solving that problem has been such a journey. And now finally seeing the fruit of it. This is not available for sale yet, guys. Sorry, it'll be up at some point. But it is so exciting. And it's just, it's a different creative muscle to get to flex, right? Sitting down with the merch team and talking through, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:21 to get to flex, right? Sitting down with the merch team and talking through, you know, injection molded plastics issues or making judgment calls on like metal finishes or, you know, talking through design elements. Like this blank hoodie that I'm wearing is actually printed already. So it's got a little LTT logo on the front.
Starting point is 01:03:42 So this was done with kind of like a splatter effect in the original design. I kind of went, ah, yeah, you know what? I think it, it, it obscures the, it obscures the text. It, you know, changes the branding, but I love the colors. Um, and then the design on the back is super cool. It's kind of like retro inspired. Lloyd did it.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Oh, that's sweet. That's actually awesome. So it's a blown up CPU. I think he did an amazing job of the concept. I love the color palette, but I was like, Hey, I think we should do this and this and this and getting to be part of that, uh, that design process and working with creatives like Sarah and Lloyd, um, the engineers, Bridget, Hannah, Matt, uh, that team is like over 10 people now. I think it's crazy. Working with those guys is so much fun. Like creating something physical is just different.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And so I've been having a lot of fun with it and just finding problems and solving them. Like the backpack is such a great example. We just found a problem. Like there's not a tech backpack that really speaks to the IT techie, you know? There's a thousand camera bags, but there's no like, hey, I need a tablet and a laptop
Starting point is 01:04:47 and somewhere to put my Switch and maybe even like handheld PC. We need all these sleeves, right? So we're able to tackle that. So I, yeah, I'm really enjoying that. I'm also really excited about the lab. I think the lab is gonna change online media with the vision that I have for it. We have some amazing applicants.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I have someone in mind who I want to run it, who is OG tech media that I would be really excited to be able to work with on a daily basis. And I'm just going to really enjoy being part of that. Like I'm not, I don't have the education to do a lot of what those guys are going to do. Right. But what I do know is enough to ask questions and enough to learn. And I'm really excited to learn again. So I want to bring in a team of people to teach me more and that I can teach about, you know, what the consumers need and how we can present that data in a way that's palatable and useful. And I just think it's going to be so exciting. So that's what really gets me out of bed in the morning right now.
Starting point is 01:06:00 No, we don't do internships. Sorry. um no we don't do internships sorry it's just like there's so much confidential information around here and it's so disruptive to our workflow we're just we haven't reached the kind of scale where we can make it make sense for us yet i'm sorry um tried to follow along with the linux challenge i couldn't get an e-gpu and couldn't get all of my monitors to work at the same time any suggestions for where to look for solutions i mean honestly that was the problem for me ultimately that was the problem is there there you run into a weird edge case and it's hard to find an up-to-date solution luke did you did you flag that because you've solved it
Starting point is 01:06:40 uh no i didn't i didn't think i flagged that one. Oh, that was a merch message. Yes. Yeah, I don't think I flagged that one. I don't have suggestions necessarily where to look. There's lots of Linux resources out there. There's lots of places that would be very happy to help you. It's going to take some serious work. if you're good you can if it's not solved if you're good you can maybe be a part of the team that solves it but this is this is part of what's involved with being on the linux side of things is fixing stuff this is super cool mn mnt reform how have i not seen this uh this was flagged by jonathan f here have you seen this apparently it's got like detailed schematics and stuff so this is an open source diy laptop for hacking customization
Starting point is 01:07:34 and privacy it's thick the battery pack is just six,650s? Okay. That's pretty interesting. Okay, full disclosure, guys, I am an investor in Framework. Okay, so that's out of the way. Oh, boy. What can I say about this that i can see why framework took the approach that they did making it kind of you know sleek and a little more uh consumer um a little more attractive to more like your average consumer arm 64-bit development tool teaching tool can you can you it's arm based yeah i was gonna say can you can you go look at the cpu
Starting point is 01:08:25 socket yeah there's no socket so it's uh a free scale imx 85mq with four arm cortex a53 core so this is not powerful this is more about just uh how much does one cost to order it's like a grand okay well that makes it a little bit of a tougher sell for me yeah it's 1100 euro so oh assembled is 1300 euro so it's 200 bucks for assembly so that's a bit of buying this you should probably assemble it yourself that's like the whole point tougher sell for me um pretty cool definitely cool concept though good to have others in the space at the very least absolutely absolutely can't agree more uh victor i'm a first year at ubc whose grades aren't good enough for cs all right fair enough any good ideas for an enthusiastic tech nerd i just love coding and software design just bad
Starting point is 01:09:23 at studying for exams. Thanks for all you guys do. There's a lot of work you can get without a degree. There's also a lot of places that will hire junior developers. Like you're probably not going to make a ton of money right away, but there's places that will hire junior developers in order to train them up.
Starting point is 01:09:41 There are people that are legitimately better in a working environment than a testing environment. Um, but if you, if you, if you couldn't hack it in computer science, uh, make sure you do some personal projects and stuff. Make sure you're, you're decently capable. Um, cause you don't want to make a fool of yourself when you, when you get into a workplace, but it's not the end of the road. You can, you can find a place to work for sure. Don't give up. Madison P, your boyfriend just got called out. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I was curious if you guys could try to pronounce my username. Gaming Dominarie. Oh, that's not that hard. I'm pretty sure I got that right. Ever thought about doing LTX East? Honestly, right now, we're not even sure if we're ever going to be able to do LTX at all again. I mean, you can't plan things.
Starting point is 01:10:30 How are you supposed to? It takes a year to put together a convention like that. Ten months, if you're in a hurry. Like, it's non-trivial. You can't just decide tomorrow you're going to run a convention. It's non-trivial. You can't just decide tomorrow you're going to run a convention. And when you don't know if there's going to be some stupid outbreak again,
Starting point is 01:10:51 how are you supposed to book things? How are you supposed to buy and rent equipment and materials? I just, I don't know what to do, to be honest with you. I'm extremely grateful. Again, back to having the coolest job in the world. I'm extremely grateful to you guys that I have a job where I don't need to be in the events business because it looks like an absolute nightmare. I don't know how they'll survive. I don't know how I could in good conscience hold an event right now knowing that it's going to turn into a crockpot of disease. But I don't know how I could not if my entire business was reliant on me hosting events.
Starting point is 01:11:29 So my options are potentially, you know, put others in harm's way or put myself in harm's way. Great. It's the trolley problem, except I'm in front of the trolley. Perfect. You're in front of the trolley and you have the lever. What do you do now? Exactly. Jim N., now that Mint Mobile's a sponsor,
Starting point is 01:11:50 when can we expect Ryan Reynolds on the show? Hey, consider this a formal invitation, Mr. Reynolds, my fellow Vancouver boy. Probably quite early, but what kind of features do you think we'll see in the se3 do you know what the se3 is luke i was really hoping you would know um se3 se3 like iphone se3 is that what we're talking about here okay apparently there's a bunch of rumors all right well that should give you some idea how much i know about what might
Starting point is 01:12:22 show up in the se3 i wouldn't be surprised if it does not get an oled display again now that apple has so few features that they can use to differentiate a lower tier phone i i wouldn't be surprised to see it get uh an lcd display again other than that i don't know i really don't know what i could say they might kneecap it with really limited storage options. Mr. Gigor says, if you were forced to rename every brand under you, what names would you go with?
Starting point is 01:12:55 That is not something I'm going to be able to come up with on the spot. Because other than Linus Tech Tips, which was come up with by my former boss at NCIX, because they wanted something that was similar enough to NCIX Tech Tips, but separate enough from the NCIX brand that if I said anything stupid, they could just blame it on me. All of our branding has actually been pretty, I won't say well thought out, but it has at least been carefully considered. You know, Techquickie was a joke. it's a play on words it's a tech wiki so the idea was that it would be a repository of information about various tech terms and technologies and then there's a sex joke built into it so it's a tech quickie right because the
Starting point is 01:13:41 videos are supposed to be short so it's tech wiki but tech quickie um then tech linked okay that one we didn't put much thought into there were a bunch of names for that internally but we settled on the one that was rubbing salt in the wounds of my former employer because net linked was the name of ncix that's what the n was short for net link computer inc so when i created the show net linked it was supposed to be the viewer's connection to netlink. And we were linked over the net to netlink. So you were netlinked, you know, so that was the idea. So techlinked is just, LOL, see you later, netlink. Short circuit was done kind of by committee. I don't think i came up with that one it's good so it's i think it's really good it's it's it's short and it's an overview that was where the
Starting point is 01:14:32 circuit came from it's a short overview um i'm trying to think of what other branding we have i mean carpool critics did get rebranded to they're just movies i came up with carpool critics because i really liked the the casual vibe that they had because they were actually carpooling when they came up with the idea of it and they would just talk about movies in the car and they were like oh this should just be a podcast um but they're just movies they feel better represents the the tone of it am i missing anything float plane float plane yeah i don't know what the heck to call it it'll either take off or it float but it definitely will float but it definitely won't sink like the vessel that preceded it so that's the name there yeah almost every one of the names has a story behind it i i curated this one because
Starting point is 01:15:12 basically i just wanted to tell this guy like no um just because like if we were going to rebrand anything it would take a lot longer than just randomly sitting on land show to do so oh for sure like even float plane which is probably one of the more controversial of the names. That took us a long time. A lot of names are taken. Yeah, that's really tough. It's a problem. Like getting domains for things is like a huge problem. So you really got to get fancy with it sometimes. Mac address. So Mac address, I actually thought was pretty clever. I can't remember if that one was me or someone else but it's where to go for everything mac and also it's a it's nerdy enough that i think it speaks to what type of mac viewer we're trying to attract not just the it's magic don't tell me it's anything but magic viewer we want people who are like i get it mac address that got him so
Starting point is 01:16:06 yeah i um i i don't know i really i really like our branding i'm actually really proud of our branding i think the team does a great job like i said some of these i had i don't even remember if i had anything to do with i don't know if i came up with them um in many in many cases i don't think i came up with short circuit i might have been the one to come up with them. In many cases, I don't think I came up with ShortCircuit. I might have been the one to come up with Mac address, but I'm not sure. I'm going to call that one maybe 30%. It might have been me.
Starting point is 01:16:31 ShortCircuit, less than 5%. That was me. So I'm really proud of our team. I think we do a really good job of it for a company that's not focused on that. We don't hire outside consultants to do our design work. So like Mac addresses branding was done by sarah uh tech linkedin short circuit were i believe both done by lloyd uh like we just do everything
Starting point is 01:16:50 in-house and we we just spend time we we try to get it right and i'm really proud of it channel super fun channel super fun channel super fun it is what it is it's a channel and it's not just fun it's super fun like that's that's the only rule renovating our second story house in the u.s and want to run ethernet cables for all rooms do you recommend cat 8 for future proofing and where should i get it from infinite cable i don't believe cat 8 is actually rated for higher speeds than cat 6a is it uh blah blah blah blah 10 gigabit per second and lower at 100 meters yeah so oh no okay it's rated at up to two gigahertz wow okay that's pretty cool so i don't know what the cost difference is if it was me um i actually didn't so i did wire my house recently and i
Starting point is 01:17:42 just ran cat 6a so i think 10 gig oh man ran cat six a. So I think 10 gig, Oh man, I'm going to regret this, but I think 10 gig is the most that a residential. Oh, Oh, is he going to say it? Luke,
Starting point is 01:17:54 is he going to say it? I don't know. I think 10 gig is all that a residential address could ever need. Really? Even, even with like localized gaming servers. Yeah. Gaming servers don't need a ton of bandwidth we'll see dude i don't know come on shut up what do you mean they don't need a lot of bandwidth what would they need bandwidth for well if you're if you're doing all of the encoding
Starting point is 01:18:20 and everything you're streaming video oh oh oh oh that that that that that even then 10 gig is lots for your whole house what if every single member of your family is doing we're talking 10 gig per link right like i'm not talking total switching capacity i'm talking per link and remember remember my house has conduit in all the places that I intend to put computers. I can run frickin' 100 gigabit fiber if I really feel like it. So, you know, whatever. I'm good. But in terms of what I actually need for a network connection. It'll be interesting once the COD comes out in 2030 and it's like 580 gigs.
Starting point is 01:19:03 We have to start finding other ways to manage things i mean i'm gonna go multi gig internet as soon as i possibly can you know what i think is gonna happen is more i mean did you notice that micro i don't know how this slipped under my radar but microsoft stealthily added peer-to-peer to windows updates it is so it is so awesome i freaking love it it is so much faster and there's going to be so much less congestion we just need to go to more peer-to-peer if my next door neighbor in my apartment complex has the latest cod why am i not just pulling it off of their machine the power savings right like the energy, the network congestion savings, freaking game changer. We need to get, we need to get more of that going. I'm, I'm super into it.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And you know, yes, there's a, uh, there's a small cost to my neighbor, but that's the thing about peer to peer is they also reap the benefit of it. When they download the next big thing that I got first, I'm a share it back to them. I love it. I'm super into that. So short answer, no, I would not bother to go with Cat 8 personally, especially if there's an additional cost. If it's the same cost, yeah, sure. Fill your boots, right? What do I care? The most expensive mistake I made at NCIX as a category manager. Oh, OK, I guess I made a few. There was the time that we blew like three or four grand on these cases that I had priced like hundreds of dollars below cost from it was either mountain mods or I think it was
Starting point is 01:20:39 mountain mods. So that was that was a big, big oopsie. There were also some times when I brought in inventory that just didn't move and we just had to sort of bundle it out at a loss. So I made many $1,000 mistakes. I don't think I ever made a $10,000 mistake though. So I actually had a pretty clean track record. My biggest mistakes were usually down to data entry as opposed to decision making, because I'm not a very detail. Shut up, Luke. I'm not a very detail oriented individual.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I tend to be more of a picture detail oriented. Is there a way that you could show that desk pad configurator video without leaking one or multiple things? Yeah. Is teams even on this laptop it's not i could probably email it to you if you emailed me a you know what if you uploaded it to floatplane then i could we could you just publish it on floatplane without notifications because that's a feature we have and then i'll just fire it up on floatplane without notifications because that's a feature we have and then I'll just fire it up on floatplane which I haven't signed into
Starting point is 01:21:49 we have a team working on channel super fun jacobw it's just been a little bit slow why don't I do a topic while you're figuring that out sure the wordlepocalypse this was put in by jonathan horst what does your wordle grid look like today?
Starting point is 01:22:05 Okay, there's this discord I'm in that nobody has shut up about Wordle. I haven't actually looked into it. I know nothing about it. You may have seen these grids posted by friends on social media for the word puzzle game called Wordle. It's created by developer Josh Wardle for his partner, and it's a simple non-monetized game
Starting point is 01:22:21 that is completely web-based. This means knockoff Wordle apps started appearing in Apple and Google's app stores almost immediately, some with one-week trials and $30 subscriptions. The developer of one of these knockoffs, Zach Schacht, started bragging on Twitter about the success of his app saying, we are going to the f***ing moon. This created a firestorm on social media where Schacht doubled down on his legitimacy, questioning that Wordle has a trademark on the game. His Twitter account is now private.
Starting point is 01:22:53 On Wednesday, Apple removed all copycat Wordle apps from the App Store. And in a neat turn, the creator of an older Wordle app, which is still in the store, Steven Kravota, committed to donating the proceeds from his app's
Starting point is 01:23:05 new popularity to boost west oakland uh discussion question says nothing so this was just one of those hey here's a neat thing that happened this week you know what else was neat that happened this week if you can't buy a playstation 5 guess what you can just buy a brand new playstation 4 except you can't because they're still out of stock but sony has allegedly decided to build more playstations 4 than originally planned might be roughly in the neighborhood of a million playstation 4s originally they apparently wanted a quick generational transition but the chip shortage means there aren't many playstation 5s and work from home slowed or delayed production on a number of ps5 exclusive titles
Starting point is 01:23:45 so there just aren't that many ps5 exclusives um though several will launch later this year below is what's out right now astro's playroom demon souls destruction all-stars death stranding director's cut i mean the regular version is on ps4 so i'm not sure if that counts and ghosts of tsushima's director's cut which again the regular version is on playstation 4 that is for sony not much of an exclusive game list so the idea is to get more people into the playstation ecosystem in whatever way sony can the issue is that, as Luke pointed out, PlayStation 4s are also sold out. So considering the PlayStation 5 catalog is basically doubling this year,
Starting point is 01:24:35 our discussion question is, is this too little too late? Is this basically manufactured e-waste? Luke, what do you think? I don't know about manufactured e-waste luke what do you think i don't know about manufactured e-waste um i i suspect if someone has a playstation like i don't think playstation 4 is just going to get thrown out um there's a lot of pretty solid games on playstation 4s like it mentioned there are a lot of non-exclusives that run there it mentioned like these this is the short list of exclusives for playstation 5 yeah there's also games that released for playstation 4 that are really bad on playstation 4 uh like cyberpunk so i don't know
Starting point is 01:25:16 how much we should necessarily rigidly follow that list um sure that's fair but like i said i also don't think that they're just throwaways once this is all over so um yeah i don't know manufacturing some more playstation 4s as long as it doesn't reduce the manufacturing of playstation 5s why not you know what i like it solid take solid take are you ready to show off the are you ready to show off the configurator uh yeah i'll just post it as is right now um okay all right i'm gonna fire it up so it should be visible publicly right uh yes yeah all right let's hope for the best let me know when it's up i'm refreshing i'm refreshing he's working. We're going to be talking about cryptocurrency mining on cars shortly. Man, it is just getting to next level cringe.
Starting point is 01:26:14 How many rando crypto schemes are going on lately? I just don't even know. On TechLink today, we talked about jack dorsey's new thing that's like trying to solve the problems of crypto by making it decentralized and so that everyone can get mining stuff and i'm like that's not that it's not a solvable thing right now i want more mining uh i i would love to see more work done in in finding more and interesting ways to make it so that people can gather crypto without just wasting astronomical amounts of energy um that would be super neat whether it's like proof of stake or whatever
Starting point is 01:27:01 else if we could have more things going that direction, that would be, that would be awesome. I'm not even trying to like take money away from the big guys here. I just, just throwing away all of that energy is very odd, very weird. And there's certain places in the world that are run off like hydro dams or whatever, where it's not really that big of a deal, um, or places that are, have very, very good availability of either wind, or places that have very, very good availability of either wind or solar power. And again, it's not really that big of a deal. But there's also a lot of places that aren't like that. And there's other interesting stories coming out where like,
Starting point is 01:27:34 I don't remember what country, but it's very small one. And their whole power grid got like, Shrek'd by Bitcoin mining after some other, I believe it was after some other country banned Bitcoin mining in their country. So one moved to that little country to Bitcoin mine. And then like there was rolling blackouts and all these different types of problems that they had to ban it as well. And they were like, we're going to raid Bitcoin mining places to make them stop mining because we need our country to have power.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Like that's crazy. Obviously, that's not happening everywhere. That a minority it's still processing by the way um but it's just it's it's interesting i don't know i would like to see a lot more uh coin related stuff that requires significantly less power that would be something that I would be very happy to see. So Tesla owners have devised methods to turn their eco-friendly electric commuters into cryptocurrency. Model S owner, Chris Alessi figured out a way to power his Antminer S9 ASIC using the
Starting point is 01:28:42 battery. Oh, seriously? Okay. That's not using the model s to mine crypto that's just plugging a crypto miner into your car allowing him to mine that sweet sweet ethereum okay this headline was extremely misleading there's also there's also um he's using like the internal c, I believe, and something else. Okay, so using his lifetime of free charging on Tesla's supercharger network,
Starting point is 01:29:10 a perk that was available to Tesla's purchased before January, 2017, he gets to run his mining machine for free. He's also mining Monero on the car's Intel Atom-based SOC via an in-browser miner. And that's going to be contributing about this much of the overall mining power of that particular setup. Suraj Raval, proud Model 3 owner, has found another way. By hacking the Model 3's software, Raval has gained access to the CPU and then piggybacked
Starting point is 01:29:40 five GPUs that connect to the car's battery. It's a computer with wheels, he says. It's so simple to hack. Unfortunately for Raval, he doesn't have unlimited charging, so he has to charge his Tesla at home, so he still has to pay for all the electricity that he consumes. Considering that lithium-ion batteries degrade over time, this seems like undue wear and tear on the vehicle. Yes, thank you very much, whoever prepared this topic.
Starting point is 01:30:04 New writer who is unnamed as of yet. Not to mention the loss of efficiency from charging and discharging a battery before delivering the power to the system. This whole idea is fun, I guess, but not practical. Discussion question. Wild idea. Find a really steep hill. Use regenerative braking to power that ASIC. pill use regenerative breaking to power that asic free money and then never go back up the hill you know what else uh we actually made a video about this week is did you know that norton is bundling crypto mining into norton 360 now what it's next level cringe however bad you think it is luke let me just reassure you it is way worse way worse what what do you mean do we have notes on this no no there's a full video coming about this very shortly however bad you think it is it's worse i promise you that is my personal linus tech tips guarantee uh does the user profit from it yes
Starting point is 01:31:08 okay we did a whole we did a whole investigation we benchmarked it we we dug through all the fine print it's gonna be it's gonna be one heck of a video man that's weird all right we're not going to be able to do all the merch messages today i'm sorry guys we just plain can't um radion gpus once availability is better we're excited to use them more luke has linus ever come into work on a bad bo day or is he as tidy as his ocd makes it seem no he's good thanks luke yeah no problem that's usually my issue yeah i've been a lot better with that lately that's good just saying i actually keep a stick of deodorant in the little uh pen holder thing by my desk because i am pretty cognizant of my smell and i'm uh i'm a religious teeth brusher. I honestly, look, I don't want to get judgy right now, but people who don't brush their teeth regularly,
Starting point is 01:32:14 I can't. I'm so sorry, but I cannot. I cannot be near you. I cannot be in an enclosed space with you. It's awful. You need to brush your teeth all the time. Okay, Alex says, would y'all do a new video on the new DLSS features?
Starting point is 01:32:37 Yes, we'd love to. It's not on the docket just yet, but we do want to cover it at some point. Unable to get a 5120x1440 monitor to run at more than 60 FPS on a Thunderbolt 3 link, but it does 240 FPS with a DP1.4 cable. Any thoughts? So depending on how your Thunderbolt is connected to your DisplayPort-ness, that might not be a DP1.4 link in in it so sometimes the thunderbolt port is connected to your onboard which doesn't have dp 1.4 or something like that so that could be something to do with it it also could be that the monitor simply doesn't support dp 1.4 on that input i i'm not 100 sure
Starting point is 01:33:18 it could be the hub you're running through is not dp 1.4 anonymous yes i absolutely think that it could be argued that and i think we did argue that youtube removing the dislike button is anti-consumer definitely max s asks what's the next tv monitor technology that you're excited to see come to fruition uh i i honestly that quantum dot oled that samsung's showing off yes they sponsored a video, full disclosure, but it looks flippin' amazing. I'm super jacked. No more game show episodes planned, Jonathan. Will you develop sandals to go with the socks, Linus? I think you know the answer to that. Is it possible to get captions done for LTT videos? The auto-generated ones can take up to 24 hours to appear. I cannot function without subtitles. to appear. I cannot function without subtitles. Given that they will be automatically generated in a day, we've weighed the benefit of creating them ourselves and decided not to at this time.
Starting point is 01:34:15 The automatic ones are good enough for the vast majority of use cases, and it is very disruptive to our workflow to do them ourselves uh frank says i buy way too much merch but the quality is totally worth it any plans on restocking the party shirt or any other fun designs yes we have some really fun designs that were actually uh created by matt on our team for the upcoming swim trunks and not all of them are going to make it onto swim trunks but so many of them were super cool that we want to do another long sleeve, maybe a long sleeve or another short sleeve button up with one of those designs, maybe some other fun stuff. It is just so cool to like make tech stylish and fun, you know? I recently purchased a 3070 from Micro Center and was impressed.
Starting point is 01:35:00 They are limiting purchases in person, one per person per 30 days, verified with government ID. When will the women's underwear and sizes be released not that soon we are working on it own label stuff like this like this is a blank hoodie but it's like our own ltd label that's going to wait did we do ltd oh interesting if we're going to bring on other creators at some point, we should probably do like a creator warehouse label. Yeah. And we can't have like, like, I don't want to name any names. Could you do labels for the individual creators? Like, could you guys have an LTT label and they could have a, whatever their brand is label? We could, but one of the things that we want to figure out over the next year is how to do a lot more of our printing on demand right now we stock a lot of printed
Starting point is 01:35:48 garments and it's really stupid it would be way less it would be way more efficient for us to just stock blanks and then print them sort of next day or in two days and then ship out orders so we would want to have all of our stock of blanks be consistent. That's something we kind of got to figure out. Yes, we want to add the size that people are wearing to the pictures. When will background player picture
Starting point is 01:36:16 and picture on float plane iOS be coming? I mean, when will developing for iOS not be horrible? Yeah, pretty much. Have you guys had any failures that have inadvertently led to new ideas or products um i feel like everything we've done has been kind of intentional i mean okay here's something that's happening the gpu wasteland um limited edition mouse pad we did we saw some tweets where people were saying, oh, I just immediately wanted to color it in. And so we're actually working on doing a coloring sheet that we're going to have available as a free item with your order once we get them.
Starting point is 01:36:56 So you will hopefully, I think you probably saw the note from Nick about that, Luke. We will hopefully have a feature where you guys will be able to select your free item. We're working on it. Cool. So you'll be able to choose between your sticker pack or the GPU Wasteland coloring sheet. And then I want to add pins and stuff like that in the future as well, which I think would be really fun. Griffin B., as a laptop connoisseur, what would you put as your laptop tier list? Yes, XPS 13.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I'm particular to the two-in-ones, full disclosure. I'm an investor in framework obviously i love their mission um so yeah framework great as long as you're willing to compromise some things right like it's not a convertible it doesn't have a touchscreen there's things like that doesn't have a dedicated gpu i think the flow x13 is those are some of my favorites uh hey guys been watching since usb reviews and unboxings from the park what was one big purchase in the early days of ltd that yvonne hated but was a success or one that she was right and failed you know i think that we've probably
Starting point is 01:38:02 made the joke about yvonne you know being tight with the purse strings too many times because you guys got to understand that she's been very supportive of everything that we've done you know sometimes she'll ask hey do you really need that and if we say yes then you know it's her job to in many cases um you know enable us like she she takes it really seriously to enable us to achieve whatever it is that we're dreaming of she knows that she's great at those fine details and keeping the machine running smoothly but she also knows that compared to her i have this like crazy vision out in front of me that sometimes she acknowledges is just doesn't come as naturally to her. So that's what makes us a really, really good team. And so she
Starting point is 01:38:55 trusts me, I trust her. And you know, everything from, you know, every major, major decision, you know, buying our first camera, buying this building. We don't do anything unless we agree on it. And that goes for work, that goes for parenting. I saw a lot of examples growing up of parents who were not a good team. And I saw a lot of examples professionally of leaders who were not a good team. And to me, as soon as you create an environment where people are undermining each other, it's just a matter of when your downfall will come, not if. So we agree on things, we do them together,
Starting point is 01:39:38 and we either win together or we lose together. It's that simple. Joel F., don't be afraid to lay it on me for some custom Beat Saber song recommendations. Oh, bloody heck. I don't have my library handy, so it's really hard for me to make recommendations. But if you tune into one of my streams, I promise I'll do one in the next week or so. then I will get that for you. I'll show you some of my favorites. No, Jason, are we do not, unfortunately. Are you guys still going to send out new shirt styles to people to test? Yes, we are planning to do something like that, but it will probably
Starting point is 01:40:17 mostly be local. Anonymous asks, I haven't seen a PIA spot in a while. Do you guys still endorse them? We are cautious right now. We have not stopped working with them, but we haven't done as many spots for them because they've made some moves lately that we're keeping a close eye on. So we are in a holding pattern right now. Chris M, upcoming solar car Aptera. I'm very skeptical of what a solar car would be
Starting point is 01:40:46 um no zach s not at this time do you recommend getting the new intel chips or waiting to see what ryzen 7000 looks like ryzen 7000 looks like it's going to be banging so that's pretty exciting but alder lake it's pretty banging so that pretty exciting. I don't know what to tell you. Being a CPU shopper is pretty good right now. If you're looking for performance. We're finally at a point when there's no wrong time to buy because there's something great now and there's something great coming.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I don't know how to lose. Have you tried a Barter King style thing where you start with PC parts of a fixed value, see what you can trade up to within a week? Honestly, because PC parts are so commoditized, I just don't see it being successful. It's not one of those things where maybe you could trade someone a bicycle for a broken ATV and then fix it or something because they really need a bicycle. It's just not really like that. What keyboard are you using these days, Luke?
Starting point is 01:41:43 like it's just not just not really like that uh what keyboard are you using these days luke uh it's a oh it's a drop bare bones keyboard with i don't remember exactly what it's called but it has the high frame um and then i put my own uh novel key i don't know if it's sherbert sherbet sherbet i don't know what how what they intended you to call it i haven't heard anyone from the company call it anything um but those switches yeah all right um yes we do want to do a t-powered pc for spiffing brit eventually it's on the list but there's just been so much going on and no plans for a gpu pillow at this time uh no idea when short sleeve long sleeve will come back because it's probably going to be reliant on when we can get our own long sleeve blanks. We're just not gonna rely on, we're just not gonna rely on the suppliers
Starting point is 01:42:30 that we've had to deal with up until now. It's just been horrible. Do you think GPU prices have reached a steady state? NVIDIA did come out and say that they're expecting things to stabilize towards the end of 2022. The funny thing about that timing is that it seems to coincide
Starting point is 01:42:43 with when Intel's gonna ramp up their production, not, NVIDIA is going to come to the rescue. I don't know if NVIDIA had an opportunity to come to the rescue, but yeah. Hopefully this year we'll see things kind of come back to normal, and I'm really hoping that it's going to, that Intel is going to help. Now Samuel M says, if Intel isn't using their own fabs to produce arc will we even really see a change in GPU availability? I think we will because they're going to be using a different node than all of the other current gen GPUs So this is net new Capacity that is going to be coming online Andrew W says you shouldn't have give you have given me the power
Starting point is 01:43:22 You shouldn't have you let me type anything I wanted into a box and now i will type in this box something i didn't need to hey thanks um jacob w you'll have to maybe tweet at nick if you want to know when restocks are coming love the lanyard had mine for three years i work on diesel generators this is the first i've had that survived heck yeah just don't get it caught in anything because it is strong enough it'll like not break and we'll pull you in probably paul says wanted to give a quick shout out to visual 6502 it's a transistor level simulation of the moss 6502 which powered the commodore 64 among many other things. Visualized in your browser. That's pretty cool. For more transistor level goodness, go to siliconpron.org. Oh, that's super cool. Joshua, had my birthday last week.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Received my first order on my birthday. I'm loving the crew neck sweater. Made way more than I should have. Can't wait for short circuit hoodie. Would you recommend buying the Extreme Edition pillow? No, absolutely not. The Extreme Edition pillow is a pure flex item. This is not practical in any way. Having a pillow this big full of alpaca wool that serves no purpose other than to be a decoration is silly. But you guys asked us to do it, so we did. I'm not going to recommend it. It's there, and you can buy it if you want.
Starting point is 01:44:48 10% of them are already gone, and we are not going to restock them because they're ridiculous. But Joshua asks if there's anything else on the store that I would not recommend. No, I think everything else I can stand behind. Any plans for bedding? Yes, we would love to do
Starting point is 01:45:05 betting i won't catch you live but we'll listen to the show in the car tomorrow shout me out since i know you saw this all right justin c what are the chances of an ltd green screen desk pad oh interesting yeah i thought that was kind of interesting yeah cool for like streaming board game nights and stuff like that there's also I don't know if this would be useful, but I know a decent amount of first-person shooters, streamers, and stuff like that, they have two cameras. They put one of them at their mouse. A green screen desk pad.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I actually kind of like it. That's an interesting idea. Okay. Where's my, okay, do you want to do a couple of merch messages while I send that to Nick? let me bring that up I like it that's a really good idea oh you know what I could do actually I bet this is done processing now processing no because we're having an issue oh for sure it is unfortunately uh totally unrelated but it's affecting that
Starting point is 01:46:13 extremely bad timing hey all right that's fine because I've got another way to show it check this out this is the desk pad configure melator hold on I'm going to start again at the beginning so we're going to be adding this to the store. Luke, do you want to talk them through it? Yeah, so Conrad's been working on this for a while now, and we've actually talked about it on WAN Show a few different times. But the idea of the desk pad configurator is not to configure desk pads, it's to configure your desk so that you can know. Because we have so many options for the different sizes of mouse pads that you can get and a lot of people have different size desks and getting
Starting point is 01:46:49 the measuring tape out and all that kind of stuff can can be a little bit of a barrier and some people are just guessing because people don't necessarily have measuring tapes and whatnot so we built this thing uh where you can throw your peripherals on the desk you can actually decide if they're rgb or not i think the rgb peripherals on the desk. You can actually decide if they're RGB or not. I think the RGB peripherals, there we go. They look pretty good with the Northern Lights desk pad in particular. You can change the desk pad surface
Starting point is 01:47:14 to make it look a variety of different colors. Maybe we'll add some different ones in the future or just keep it how it is, not sure. But yeah, you can change the size of the desk. You can change the mouse pad option in terms of which size it is i don't know if it's currently in there or not but you can change uh which theoretically you'll be able to change which type of mouse pad you have so if you have gpu wasteland or potentially if we end up making a green screen one you can do that one or northern lights or whatever you can move the mouse and keyboard everything around you can tilt things you can move the monitor around you can make it look
Starting point is 01:47:48 like your desk so you know how well it's going to fit where it's going to fit all that kind of stuff so you can be more sure when you're shopping you can also switch between metric and imperial units which is pretty nice yeah so i thought that was a pretty cool pretty cool idea and i think it's going to make it a lot easier for people to make sure that they get their configuration just right. I mean, that's our main, I think that's one of our main advantages is having all these different sizes. But I think for a lot of people, it can actually end up being a disadvantage because it can be kind of overwhelming. Like there's all these different sizes and it's really hard to
Starting point is 01:48:22 visualize. We've had people message and go, wow, this is a lot bigger than I expected. I mean, the dimensions are on the site, but I get it. That happens, right? Like, Oh man, what's that thing Yvonne bought? And legitimately a lot of people, not a ton of people these days have just like a random measuring tape sitting at home. And, and, and if they don't, it's quite a barrier to like buy a mouse pad to go buy a measuring tape.
Starting point is 01:48:45 So it takes this really awesome thing of having a lot of options in the mouse pad just become a little bit confusing. So we're trying to remove that confusion. I remember this time Yvonne bought this like floor standing dollhouse and it arrived and we put it together. She's like. Yes, we're going gonna do excess shirts it'll happen great job on the colored merch messages where does floatplane come from we talked about that earlier in the
Starting point is 01:49:15 past line has talked about sending out the tall and thick to the community I'd love to help yeah you know what matter of time someone said did you ever fix the stereoscopic effect on your Virtual Boy? I know how. No, I didn't bother. What, you're not going to spend
Starting point is 01:49:31 a bunch of time gaming on Virtual Boy? No. What's wrong with you? Not so much. I've been rewatching past WAN shows, which has been making work tolerable. Quick question. Any plans for pullover hoodies?
Starting point is 01:49:41 Lol, wearing one. Not a fan of zippers. Yes, yes. This design is coming to the store shortly and it's gonna be freaking awesome how far out are the short circuit hoodies and a restock on black short circuit long sleeve uh the hoodies are okay you know what i don't want to i don't want to promise anything i'm sorry sorry. Matthew S. says, do you think Steam Deck will actually convince developers to increase development on Linux? Yes.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Yeah, and I think it already has, would be part of my answer there. It's happening. What are the chances of hiring a dedicated sysadmin or a dedicated IT team? I mean, it's probably the kind of thing we're going to have to do eventually, but not yet. We technically have one at Floatplane.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Today, as your fans see it, Floatplane is a subscription-based video streaming platform. Is it more than your fans see, or will it become more? Are there any goals for the company that you are willing to share now or in a Floatplane-focused video? I think you should field this. There are, I guess.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Something that we're working on, which I guess we can talk about here. Our internal name for it right now is Floatplane as a Service. It will probably have a different name in the future, but it's been very easy to just call it FAS for now. But Floatplane as a Service is just part of the idea of we wanted our own platform. And since the beginning, a lot of creators have reached out saying that they're interested, but they want their own platform. They don't necessarily want to join someone else's. And then we have watched a decent amount of those creators end up going down the same
Starting point is 01:51:18 rabbit holes that we have and have had a really, really hard time. So the goal or idea of Floatplane as a service is to be able to provide the backend, to be able to provide the video player, the video uploading, the everything that Floatplane does, but to be able to do it on other people's websites for them so that they can have their own website,
Starting point is 01:51:41 they can have their own subscription stuff set up, and we can just provide all the backend muscle. So yeah, it's still going to take a while, but that is a direction we are definitely going in. And other than that, we're still pumping new features into Flowplane. We're still trying to do new cool things with it. We will always be, well, it's hard to say always,
Starting point is 01:52:01 but we will very likely always be heavily video focused and subscription based and yeah that's it a lot of developers at my company use laptops especially macbooks to do programming would you consider adding more compile benchmarks absolutely once the lab is up and running we want to really flesh out our benchmarking suite omar says apple fanboy watching ltd since the Firetruck video stoked MAC address is finally a thing. Are we getting content on ancient Apple history? Not probably
Starting point is 01:52:32 that much. Every once in a while it's fun to do something, but not for the time being. As for where's Riley with more tech longer? What a wonderful question. He definitely will be working on it. We might need to grow the TechLink team in order to facilitate that.
Starting point is 01:52:47 We're going to see how things go in the new year. Oh, green screen desk pad. I already talked through that. Just been waiting for a reason to get my spout lid. Hey, nice. Please open a storefront soon. Yes, we would love to. I do want to do LTT store not com,
Starting point is 01:53:03 like an in-person store. Michael B asks, do you think console makers will ever support ultra wide monitors a lot of games already ultra wide would it be difficult to add to consoles man even just like the xbox series s generated so many complaints from developers having to target multiple performance profiles. I don't see it happening anytime soon. Hunter C asks, why are your Facebook videos cropped? Is that a Facebook problem? No, it's a problem with what performs well on Facebook. I don't make the rules. I don't have a working car, but I have two luxury pillows.
Starting point is 01:53:45 For crying out loud, Anonymous, you are not the target audience for this. You're supposed to have a working car first, then you buy a luxury pillow. Noah D., last merch message for the day. I know you like the Lambo so much. Why not check out some student racing series? I'm part of a Formula SAE team in the U.S. I thought it'd be cool for you guys to come check out some of the tech behind some higher level. That actually sounds super cool, but I'm not going to be traveling anytime soon, so I don't want to
Starting point is 01:54:13 promise anything. Hey, thanks Jordan H. And that's the last one. So I think that's it for the show. Thank you guys for tuning in. we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye neptetian just neptet on just realized that you are not here that's so funny i love it it kind of sucks doing winch or remote not gonna lie yeah it'll be nice to have you back yep agreed

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