The WAN Show - RYZEN 3000 IS UNBELIEVABLE - The WAN Show Dec 7 2018

Episode Date: December 10, 2018

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WAN show yet this week. Okay. And also Ryzen 3000. So topics that you care about. We're also going to discuss YouTube Rewind. I only made it about halfway through. So really, it might have gotten a lot better towards the end. But okay, I kind of suspect it didn't.

I'll wait. We'll get into that later. And finally, CSGO is now free and also gets a Battle Royale mode because every game. I don't know. I'm refused to talk about that. Just no. No! Oh my goodness.

Oh my goodness. As a prime player, you can choose to... No, you're baiting me. I said I wasn't going to talk about this. I didn't even... No, you made me ask a question. I've been boondoggled. As a prime player, you can choose to not get cued against people who are not prime players. I want to talk about, oh, okay. Why? Okay. No, I want to start with the really important stuff. So Luke and I had a meeting today.

Oh, boy. We are going to be making, oh, wow. Today is actually like kind of announcement-wan show. Yeah. Oh, I'm so excited for one of them. It's going to be incredible. Okay. So first of all.

Good shirt choice, by the way. Float Plane, thank you. Float Plane has some big milestones coming up. Yeah, which none of the team knows about at the end of this year yeah so it's gonna be actually pretty freaking awesome yeah and uh one of the things that's gonna happen before then is live streaming support with chat and all that cool stuff is dropping very very soon um so you can expect if you're a float plane member you are going to be simultaneously multi-casting or we are going to be simultaneously multi-casting to youtube twitch and floatplane.com next friday yeah so that's going to happen exciting i can't promise special treatment for the float plane chat.

And in other news, YouTube Rewind dropped yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so why did you only make it halfway? Okay, sorry. One of the float plane guys just said an inside joke and that caught me off guard. Why did you only make it halfway through? Okay, so here's the thing.

I have a confession to make. I've never made it. No, I did. I think the year PewDiePie became number one, I might have made it all the way through because I remember seeing the bit at the end with him like walking on the beach or something. Does that ring a bell? I don't know if it ends that way or starts with that he like picks up the play button on the beach. Oh, crap.

Maybe that was the start. Maybe I didn't make it through that one either. Back when Rewind was good and had relevant people. Okay, so hold on a second. So I have to confess that I don't think I have ever made it all the way through Rew rewind because I don't really watch YouTube so for me it's kind of like this parade of people that I don't know who the heck they are well I think that's the problem right now so that was one key difference this year is I knew who Marques was yeah I knew who he's amazing have you watched his this is totally off topic have you watched his camera phone

comparison oh the bracket that he's doing i well i don't really watch youtube but i'm aware that he's doing it it's done it's up oh okay yeah it's actually really interesting okay good you should watch okay all right or like skip to the end bracket i'll skim through it okay yeah that's like the most that's a compliment like he's gonna he doesn't watch anything the fact that he's gonna skim through it and like actually get enough information like that's not that's not that's not a side against the video that's that's pretty good anywho uh i reckon i recognize grov uh technical dirigi i recognized uh yep like i don't know for like three seconds yeah because i didn't see him he's like on the

island and he's like oh i think we should acknowledge people who um contributed when they're like jumping different people yeah okay yeah yeah yeah um and then i recognized emma chamberlain who i'm only aware of because i was reading an article on something about something and somehow I ended up looking at the Streamy's Awards and she was the breakout creator and then I spent actually probably about an hour and a half on her channel trying to get it and what I realized is that I still don't really get it and I'm probably not gonna start watching YouTube anytime soon anyway so other than that I didn't really know who anybody was I think okay

so I think that's a big problem with YouTube rewind so back in like 2012 2013 when you should be doing it that long oh, yeah. 2012 YouTube Rewind is like a thing. Okay. 2011? They had one? Oh, 2010. They had a 2010 Rewind. I don't know when they actually started it, but. This was called YouTube Rewind Year in Reviews.

So over 250 million views combined. And it's like kind of a clip show from your TV screen. It has like, oh, that guy's awesome. The Old Spice commercial guy. Oh, it's got a bunch of Twilight on it. There's a crying child. Yeah, so this is like pretty low grade compared to what they did. But like if you notice.

But it goes back that far. You're not screen sharing, by the way, so no one can see this. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. One thing you'll notice from this rewind is it's showing things that happened that mattered that got a lot of views throughout the year and new rewinds are just powered by youtube trends as opposed to powered by youtube arbitrary yeah and and new rewinds are here's a bunch of people doing completely intensely unrelated things for the most part or

like vague fort right fortnight fork knife that was not that was not there no the beginning isn't but later on later on i see i see like this none of it none of it matters none of it actually represented like impactful things for the year there was no t series there was no yeah year review there was none of that kind of stuff how was t-series not even if you don't include pewdiepie because the stuff that's happened with him and whatever whatever that's a totally different conversation well how was t-series not a part of that yeah that what like my it's very it's very it's very cleaned off like google is pushing hard into india don't imagine for a second that

any of this T series and rising in prominence of Indian channels don't imagine for a second any of this is a random accident like Google is pushing really hard they're pushing on Chrome they're pushing on Android they're pushing on YouTube they are pushing into India okay so some people are saying the PewDiePie drama is for teenagers. We're saying completely regardless of the PewDiePie versus T-Series. That doesn't change the fact that it's happening. T-Series is still massive and they're huge

and the Indian YouTube is exploding. Is Fortnite not for teenagers? Oof. Oof. I mean, it featured very prominently in the Rewind and as far as I can... I mean, I went to the Halloween store and there were Fortnite costumes. They didn't have adult sizes. I'm thinking they probably know their demographic.

This WAN show has gotten real uncomfortable. This WAN show has gotten real uncomfortable. I think with Rewind, they're trying to make it extremely advertiser friendly. Yeah. And they're trying to bring in safe acts. And for some reason, they're no longer trying to just show really cool or important or high view things that happen throughout the year. Yeah. They're just trying to take people that are advertiser friendly and put them in front of the screen. I love that Marquez had a speaking part.

That's really cool. But I almost would have liked it better if he was just sitting on one of the seats on the bus talking about his phone and showing it to someone as they had panned along it. I love that he had a speaking part, but it felt off topic. Or if he had a speaking part, I would have liked for it to be... Because if you don't know that he had a speaking part but it felt off topic or if he had a speaking part i would have liked for it to be because if you don't know that he's a tech guy related yeah you won't have any idea from watching rewind another thing in my opinion if they're gonna do it this way

yeah i disagree with but if they're gonna do it this way where they just like scattershot popular people that are brand friendly into the video yeah they should have little things like this is this person yeah because you watch the thing and you're like who are all these that are brand friendly into the video. They should have little things. Like, this is this person. Because you watch the thing and you're like, who are all these people? And maybe the person's on there for 60 frames. Like, you barely see them.

But that's where I think the context comes in as well. Because at least that would help. That would help. It's kind of like, does anyone remember when you're a kid, right? And you're in the grocery store with your parents. And one of your teachers is standing there comparing the quality of apples or whatever. And you're like, you exist in real life? Mrs. Fraser shops at the grocery store?

Because when you see somebody outside of the normal context that you expect to see them in it's very easy to not recognize them and this can even be true of people that you know in real life yeah like if i ran into you know i'm not going to pick someone that i work with every day like if i ran into luke on the street obviously i'm gonna i'm gonna okay even then though if we ran into each other on the street okay oh wait i'm gonna use a story for this i ran into dimitri in germany okay i had no idea dimitri from hardware connects yeah i had no idea he was in germany he had no idea i was in germany we walked past each other randomly on the street and it takes a second because you're like this doesn't make any sense at all right like it what like i totally knew who he was but i was like is this a doppelganger like what's it's it's a weird moment it's very jarring people are like what yeah that happened

that's pretty cool that was really cool idea yeah um so this was a long time i don't know i i only made it about halfway through just because like it's it's not really it's kind of the same reason that i don't watch like the grammys and the oscars because a lot of the time it's kind of the same reason that I don't watch the Grammys and the Oscars. Because a lot of the time it's movies and songs. Movies I haven't seen, songs I haven't heard, and people who I don't really know who they are. There's a handful of very famous actors and or musicians. Musicians in particular, I don't watch music videos. It's not like I have an objection to them or anything.

When I listen to music, it's usually when I'm doing something else and that doing something else isn't staring straight ahead at the screen watching the video that goes with it. It's like something actually totally unrelated. So I actually, a lot of the time, I don't recognize musicians. Yeah.

And so I just don't find it that interesting i don't really follow the storylines like i don't really pay attention to celebrity gossip or anything like that so it's just not really interesting for me to just see a parade of people that i don't really know who the crap they are or why i did yeah like i i liked seeing marquez because it was cool having someone featured really prominently that's in our community and it was really funny to see that PewDiePie's chair made it in but he didn't that was really entertaining

one of the animators that was featured had the chair doing this it's them like moving in a room like going in front of the camera and be like hey and then like moving away and it's all animated it's a little cartoon yeah but the chair that they're in is very clearly PewDiePie's like clutch chair with the like swirly red and black

design got it it's uh hey it's kind of a interesting call out that happened there all right the last day says can you guys talk about something that matters like the fact that jesus is coming back very soon and the whole world is going to suffer judgment um all right so let's move on then from that topic and let's move on to the big announcement for this wan show oh oh my goodness i'm actually so excited the actual big announcement wow it's funny we have made it 20 minutes into the WAN show, and I have not even opened up the topics doc yet. That may be a new record. I'm extremely, like, I might be more excited than the people in the audience about this.

LTX 2019. The details are somewhat coming together. Okay. First of all, mark your calendars now. July 27th and 28th. Two days. Whoa, what? Two days.

Two days? Well, hold on a second. Surely they're going to kick us out of the venue overnight, right? Wait, what? Wrong. What? I didn't even know this. Oh, that's so cool.

I'm so excited. LTX 2019 is going to be bigger, badder and better than ever. Two days. Oh my God. With an overnight LAN party. Oh my God. Powered by our partner for the event, DreamHack.

Yeah. Woo! So cool. So we have been working on this with them since basically oh man the end of ltx 2018 when we went you know what we did a lot of stuff that was better than last year but there is still a ton of room for improvement here um so cool i can't give you guys but but basically we're like yeah we need to take it up a significant notch if you want this to be more than just a fan meetup which it has done a great job of being but last year we had other creators there like coming out of

crawling out of the woodwork no it's d from gamers nexus we had jay's two cents we had barnacles there we had lewis rossman there and we're kind of looking at this going well hold on a second those guys came they had fun all of them and i you know i'm not going to put words in their mouths but all of them expressed interest in at least maybe participating in 2019 so we're looking at it going like hey well we need to like if we're gonna have like step it up big creators coming in and like being sort of part of this experience we need like a creator meetup space and we need like we need better food options and we need we need a we need a bigger space so guess what we got a bigger space we are stepping it up we're moving into the big time so the original plan was to take

i think it was a couple of the a couple of the ball rooms or a couple of them like three of the meeting rooms and then one of the ball rooms or something like that in the i want to say east building of the vancouver convention center so we actually we went even further than that not a hockey rink this and with no with no plan really for exactly how we're going to fill it other than that we're just going to take a lot of what we've done a lot of new ideas from the community oh they're getting so much booth space so we're making every booth bigger good every booth better and we are going to have something to the tune of like 30000 square feet or something ridiculous like that. It is going to be a gigantic space. I think I can say that we are going to have,

you know what, I'm going to check what is in the blog because we have actually added a blog to the LTX. LTXExpo.com. Oh, hold on just a minute here. You're showing the duck. Yeah, that's fine. fine that it really matters oh have we not have we not done it yet oh where that december 7th wow this is this is a really great website very broken there we go ltx 2019 and dream hack coming to vancouver so cool this page could be better but don't worry we're we're busy making the event good.

We don't have time to make this thing good. Huge partnership. Thrilled to be partnering with 3 1⁄2 World Records. Okay. Well, man, I kind of, you know what? I'm going to jump the gun a little bit. There's going to be a BYOC. But we're partnering with, I thought that was like a given well they do other things okay okay so there's going to be a byoc land how many seats can we say how many i know but we can't say okay

okay because you never know there could be like a slight seating rearrangement or it's power constraint restrictions or whatever sure you never know you never know there's still a lot of details to work out that makes sense but we have paid the deposit on the vancouver convention center it will be in the vancouver convention center so uh there will be way better access to hotels and transportation you can take the sky train there tons of food like i've been just gonna be better pax west yeah for as far as i can tell, my entire life. I think the next one will be my 12th or 13th event. I lost track somewhere along the line.

I'm really excited. I'm willing to say I'm more excited about this event than PAX, which is like that's a very hard thing for me to say. You're kind of a PAX fanboy. I am kind of a PAX fan. If you're being honest. Yeah. But like LTX is legitimately,

and I'm not even technically a part of Linus Media Group anymore, so I have no real technical incentives to even say this. LTX is doing everything that I think they should do. Partnering with DreamHack is a really good idea. Making the event two days is a really good idea. A lot of people are flying in. Flying in for one like eight-ish hours we know yeah yeah yeah yeah we always knew it was just and there's growing use and the costs and the it makes sense this year quite honestly um

what okay so this is the biggest bsr ever no theer ever. No. The directive to Colton. So the directive to Colton previously was break even on the event. We didn't expect it to make money, but we didn't really want to lose a bunch of money. The directive this year is, look, Linus Media Group and Linus Tech Tips doesn't really do a ton of marketing and quite frankly a ton of community engagement yeah so this this is our community engagement budget for the year

blow it blow it all hell yeah so we are already engaging so cool we're already engaging with like actual professional booth building and designing companies i can't promise we'll use them but we will at least get some inspiration from them um we we really really want to take it to to a completely different level i think the thing is there's there's i can't really think of any conventions at least in north america that are hardware focused not that there won't be games there but it's hardware focused and it's a community event and there's definitely might be games there yeah pax is uh become less and less hardware focused over time yeah they've been more

and more gaming and it's more and more like giant triple a companies it's not as like smaller company. It's much less hands-on. To be clear, we're aware of the indie zone. Yeah. But okay. If, if I'm not promising anything, but if we had any indie developers show up to, you know, show off their wares at LTX 2019, there would be a hard and fast rule that you have to have a booth that doesn't suck and i get it you're an indie developer and it's hard we would be happy to help but you can't just have a table with like a vinyl banner behind you and like i hate to stereotype, but like two nerdy guys sitting there at the desk with some business card, no. It has to be playable. It has to be cool.

It has to be like, it has to not suck. That's all I'm asking. Yeah. So. It's just, I'm extremely intrinsically excited about this LTX. I think the main things I wanted improved is, like, the lines were crazy at last one,

and the main stage had a few... So VR had, what, three headsets? Yeah. So we figure the minimum for this coming year is somewhere between 15 and 20. Yeah, like, that's insane, but makes sense. Massive oof. Makes sense.

And we just kind of like we kind of like lay it out like so that you can make it somewhat space efficient but like yeah we know absolutely like we know we know we screwed up a lot of stuff last year well i don't i don't necessarily think it's screwed up fun but they had a lot of constructive criticism yeah but i don't think it's screwed up. It's our second convention. It's not TanaCon. It's not whatever that Tumblr convention was.

It succeeded. People were happy. It's just growing pains. And I'm just super excited for this year's upgrade. It was thrilling to me that people showed up to LTX 2018 with signed stuff from ltx 2017 wanting to get it like signed again like where where there's already that grassroots yeah sort of movement to make this sort of worth migrating for and we know that vancouver is not easy but that's one of the reasons that we're announcing it way earlier this time around you have literally seven months to get a passport and or figure out time off or whatever else we're also doing it for two days so that it is somewhat justifiable to come

up here Vancouver is a beautiful city give it a chance we're doing it in the summer for a couple of reasons number one is so that people aren't in school. And remember, that applies to both younger people and older people who are also in school. So we're doing it in July so that people aren't in school. We're also doing it in July because the weather tends to be absolutely fantastic here in July. If you're into hiking, if you're into food, Vancouver is a great place to go for food. Whether you, I i mean pretty much richmond i get so spoiled because living in vancouver i'll whether i travel to asia or the

u.s or like pretty much anywhere it's like yeah yeah food's great but like honestly it's not that different from if i just go to a like there's probably a shop yeah there's probably a shop not that far away that i get essentially exactly indian food chinese food japanese food um dennis said a lot of middle eastern chinese food is better here like okay i could get on i could get into a whole thing about sort of like quality yeah I know where that conversation goes spent enough time in Asia where like people talk about yeah food's cheap in Asia I'm like okay there's a difference between food being cheap and cheap food being cheap I had the most horrifying hamburger and I know that's what I get for ordering hamburger but I had just about the most horrifying hamburger in like Brunei or something stupid like that it

was like look it was a moment of weakness it was like halfway through my trip it was the trip from hell we had two six-month-old infants with us like we were there because someone in the family was dying turns out they weren't dying. He's still alive. And that was like four years ago. Anyway, the point is like it was the worst. And even the more authentic things because the entire rest of the trip I had to eat more authentic stuff because I was with my wife and all of her family. And we weren't going to go to like the white people friendly place because of the one white, actually there were two white guys there,

me and my brother-in-law. And anyway, we weren't going to go there just because of us. We were like, okay, we're going to make the best of it. And I was actually far less open-minded about authentic food at that point. It was rough.

So everything else honestly was not great either. I was like, yeah, no, I can understand why this doesn't cost very much because it's like very low grade. And that, yup, that's fine. Some stuff was really good, some stuff was really good. There were exceptions, but food in Vancouver is great. So LTX, so don't think of it as like

you have to buy a plane ticket just to go to like a one day convention because, A, it's two days now. It's two days now. And it goes overnight, which is something conventions haven't done in a long time. And it's actually really cool because at three or four in the morning at a convention, the whole vibe changes. Okay, so to be clear, the actual booths will not be open overnight. It'll be the BYOC area, I'm sure. That's how it works everywhere.

That's completely fine. But the whole vibe at the convention changes. It's really, really cool. I suggest trying to stay up for a while. I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it. I probably will. Okay, because I'm going to be on stage a lot, both day one and day two. Even if you could.

And the night of the first day, got my backstreet boys concert i heard about that you're actually gonna leave ltx to go there look the concert was booked wow they moved the dates for ltx on me i didn't have it wow look i never saw them when they were relevant so wow i want to see that look look look i'll be there all day it has your name on all day during the day uh no i don't think it does does it l i think isn't that for linus tech tips which is technically like a it's more of a brand than my name it's at least two thirds it's at least two thirds not my name you like to say your name's on the building well i just yeah that's just me like playing that you know, you know, asshat character that I play.

But that's... Yeah, that's Luke. See, Luke. Anyway, so I'll go for the concert, and then what I may do is come back for a bit, but I can't, like, stay up all night. No, you should sleep. I, like, have to be on stage and, like, meet and greeting things. It will probably make

the show better if you sleep but i i'm probably gonna buy a byoc ticket anyway just so that hopefully i can get in and play some games and stuff oh right because yeah no that makes sense well no i could get a free ticket but for me it's just more the principle of the thing i'll just buy a ticket like there's gonna be a finite number of seats and so if I was like yeah you know I want a free ticket my brother wants a free ticket and all my staff need free tickets and it's like you know this is a partnership yeah we need to make sure that it makes sense for for DreamHack and it makes sense for Linus Media Group um because you know who knows you know what this kind of turns into or doesn't turn into.

This is, I think, pretty experimental for both of us. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we're really excited, though. Are they doing, like, tournaments and stuff? I think their approach is going to be relatively low-key this time. Okay. I don't want to promise anything on their behalf. Big professional tournaments.

I mean, like, are they going to do, like... I i don't mean like big professional tournaments i mean like are they gonna do like i really don't know i would love to like impromptu shoutcast a rocket league tournament because i've actually done this before really yeah okay and i actually think i'm pretty decent at it for rocket league okay and that would be really fun well you know what colton i think is watching lan show because he sent me this really upset message i've been trying to fix the blog for an hour lol um so i'm sure he heard you say that colton if you want any amount of free help or labor outside of standard hours i'm down to do whatever i will sacrifice my body to try to make ltx better um i'm not even kidding one thing that might help us make ltx better is making sure that we get through our sponsors for the land show

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All right. Should we do some tech news? We should probably talk about Ryzen 3000, considering that's the title. Okay. All right. Sounds good. So the original article is from Reddit,

of all places. That makes sense. There you go. Ryzen 3000 will be on TSMC 7nm HPC. So basically, Ryzen 1000 and 2000 were built on Samsung's 14nm low power process. This was part of the reason that there was a four gigahertz hard cap on clock speed. Like, Ryzen, Threadripper, they are not overclockable. It's not that they're, like, hard to overclock. They're just not really overclockable.

So because of this limit in terms of their frequency, they had a really hard time making up any ground on Intel's processors, particularly in gaming where single-threaded high clock speed performance is key. So then two is rumored to be made on TSMC's 7nm high performance process. This could give us a 13% boost in clocks compared compared to low power's 4.6 gigahertz, putting Ryzen 3000 over 5 gigahertz. Along with this, we are expecting a 15% IPC improvement, along with eight cores per CCX, which should mean less communication between the interconnects, and faster memory.

So if you were to extrapolate a 15% IPC, so that's instructions per clock, uplift, plus a 15% improvement in the raw clock speed, that could be a 30% improvement in performance. It is also sort of anticipated that the Spectre Meltdown Foreshadow hardware fixes will hit Intel about 10% harder than Ryzen. Meaning, it could be possible that Ryzen 3000 could be 10% faster than Core in single-threaded workloads. This is according to, though, reddit.com slash r slash amdstock. So take it with more salt that is was used to preserve this jerky.

Yeah. I uh Do you own any tech stock? No. There's you know the problems there. Oh yeah that's right. Yeah. Okay. Long story. Yeah long story actually. Yeah.

So no. But, like... It's actually been pretty wild lately. So, take this for what it is. The only times I have ever owned tech stock, I owned, like, a couple thousand dollars of NVIDIA, probably pre-LMG. So this must have been about eight years ago or something like that.

And then I owned, like, I don't know, $5,000 or something like that of OCZ shortly before they disappeared. No, don't, I was, I was, I got out. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got out. Nice. All right. I actually, I made a little bit of money on that stock and it was like kind of thrilling and it was cool. And I was like, Ooh, I'm like playing the market. Um, apparently you did okay with that if you got out before yeah i made money on nvidia as well but i pulled out because well okay i pulled out because i was like i'm new to this you know i made some money okay i'm gonna like call that good

yeah and then um ocz completely went supernova and i I was like, you know what? F this. I'm out. I don't invest. So I didn't put any money back into NVIDIA, which probably would have been a good idea. They were around $17 at that time. Yeah. Oops.

Anyway. I mean, whatever. It's all a game. Then I got into LMG and it really seemed like a very obvious conflict of interest. Duh. a very obvious conflict of interest. So anyway, take this from people who are sitting where we're sitting. I have no ownership stake of any tech company. Actually, I don't think I own any stocks at all right now. Yeah, zero. Zero stocks. And then do you own any? No. No. Okay. What tech stocks would you buy?

And remember, okay, we're not going to be experts when it comes to, you know, the, what is it? The dead cat bounce or like whatever, you know, like, like all that stocky investment-y stuff. I'm just talking as non-investment people. Over the next three to five years, who do you expect to just kill it in terms of the actual tech, which theoretically at some point, although I can't quite find the correlation sometimes, theoretically at some point should affect the stock price. Yeah.

See, okay, that's actually one thing I was going to bring up is like, I don't know what current speculation is. So things could be inflated. I don't know if they are or not. But like if if we completely ignore all of that i genuinely do think amd would be a good position you think so yeah like long amd not short amd is scary because they're like all over the place yeah yeah long amd like just to be clear i track it just because i'm curious but their their platform for cpus

right now is really strong and as we can see whether this rumor is true or not the fact that it's like that could be possible has a lot of potential in it and intel's in a really bad spot they're kind of locked intel looks good on paper because their revenue is great yeah um their forecasting might look pretty darn good. But the problem is that, and we talked about this a lot, back when we talked about AMD launching their 32-core EPYC processors, the long lead time on enterprise, where from the inception of a project like a supercomputer

to the actual putting of CPUs into sockets could be a year, 18 months, two years. Like in some cases, you end up actually building a custom facility for the damn thing before you even actually cut a PO for any computer hardware. Like that's the kind of scale these projects operate on so intel's revenues might look really good because they have contracts locked in from before amd was even remotely competitive but that situation can change and if amd can stay very competitive and or even be a leader in certain aspects of that space we're gonna start to see it soon yeah and like okay i don't want any of this to be interpreted as actually advising anyone to do anything please no as far as i'm concerned

please investing in stocks is gambling yeah you might as well put you know 10 000 on black and spin the wheel as far as i'm concerned, because there are so many factors. I think there's definitely more to it than that, but like, yeah. You could have, well, yes and no. Because look at what happened to hard drives back in, what was it, 2011? When there was the flooding in Thailand, right? Yeah. Thailand flooding. It completely destroyed their revenue. And then, this is the crazy thing. So it destroyed their revenue and then this is the crazy thing so it destroyed their revenue everyone dumped them and then their profit margins went way up because supply was constrained and they were a hot item yeah it's like yo you understand that doesn't even work what is even

going on like the business fundamentals never really changed here i just think like instead of a what is it like 48.5 or something percentage chance if you go on a black or red i think you can try to push that percentage a little bit yeah but you can also push that percentage at the blackjack table that's true like you don't have to play roulette you did use roulette as an example that's true i'm just saying because like war could break out and it's and that will rapidly and that's actually like a scary possibility like it's a funny thing to talk about because in our lifetimes our generation there have been wars there was the war in afghanistan but if we're being if we're being

honest with ourselves scale conflicts that was not a war compared to the second world war yeah like the are the previous generation saw war to the degree that the entire country is mobilized you know people who aren't working are kind of being rounded up to produce bullets in impromptu factories so that the soldiers overseas will have enough bullets. Like, it's different. It's very different. And when that happens, there are some companies that can flourish, and there's other companies that will absolutely not. Tech companies might actually even do okay.

I wouldn't think consumer tech companies would do okay. But certain enterprise tech companies might do completely fine. So we're just trying to say that no matter what it is no matter how sure the outlook is anything could happen so it really is a gamble well i'm the only one that answered though what do you what about you ah i have a i have a few other like maybe interesting idea ones but i want to i want to hear from you this isn't something i've thought about so i really i don't know i actually think amazon is far from capped out personally for sure um like i i i i always have a problem with including them in this type of stack because you're talking i thought we

were talking about like like tech companies where yeah no they make echoes and stuff oh yeah yeah no you're even a hardware company all right yeah yeah i think they make echoes and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're Yeah, I think they have plenty of room to continue to innovate And continue to take over the world like if there's anyone who's gonna be the by and large from Wally It's gonna be Amazon. Oh, absolutely Have you seen their they're like the revenue stack of Amazon versus all these other retail companies? No, it's insane I don't know where that picture is from but it like it includes so many insane i don't know where that picture is from but it like it includes so many physical retailers that are like really big names that are just a tiny fraction of the revenue that amazon's pulling like it's absolutely madness yeah i don't i don't think there's any insight for them either i think

i think there's i think there's plenty of room for them especially because they've already gone global they've got they've they're opening up india um and they are sophisticated so yeah amazon i i wanted to put like a quarter of my net worth in amazon like five years ago which like it wasn't you know like a huge amount of money or anything but it was like a big bet for me and that was around the time that instead uh we founded linus media group so So, you know what? Linus Media Group has worked out great. But Amazon also wouldn't have been a bad guess. So, yeah. I tried to get – I sent a – was it a letter?

I don't know. This was a long time ago. Pre-Halo 1. Yeah. I tried to – the only person I knew that had any form of money um was my grandpa so i like wrote a thing and gave it to my grandpa trying to get my grandpa to invest in bungie pre-halo one before the game was out i was like this is gonna be insane and i'm a kid i I have no money. I can't do it. But I'm like, someone needs to do this. And that was a no.

So there was no Bungie investment at that time. I don't even know if they were. I didn't know anything back then. I don't know if they were a publicly tradable company. Like, I have no clue if that was even possible. I was just like, I think my grandpa was just like, okay. Okay, my boy. Do we have to talk about this? I wait what which one oh uh so tf2 used to be fun tf2 was so much fun and then they made it free to play and there were

hats everywhere that was legitimately when i stopped playing. TF2 used to actually be really fun. The problem with free-to-play is that there's no real venom in the VAC ban fangs. Yeah. Because you can just use... Do they still call them Smurf accounts? Yeah. Okay. So you can just use Smurf accounts accounts and you can create as many accounts as

you want and the ban just means nothing ip is so easy to get around these days very easy get a get a pia subscription support support the channel i don't want to be like that but it's kind of a different community in games where it's people who can afford to pay 20 bucks? Alright so one thing that I'm gonna throw in here is prime status. So you were asking about this early on. If you bought Counter-Strike before it went free-to-play, you have prime status. And if you pay the equivalent of buying the game, you can buy prime status. Forever? Forever. It's a one-time purchase and you can filter matches so that you only play against prime enabled people oh okay so like my account okay I

actually didn't know that only plays against prime enabled accounts so prime status matches you with prime and if I remember correctly for a special gun for prime you have to like you have to put your phone number in. So if your prime account gets banned, your phone number gets banned. And there's some other, I think you have to play a minimum amount before you can actually matchmake at that, even if you buy a prime account. I don't remember all of it, I'm sorry, but there is additional requirements as well. Yeah, prime matchmaking is pretty cool.

There is still plenty of hackers yeah prime matchmaking is is pretty cool there is still plenty of hackers on prime matchmaking wingman before they most people even in the counter-strike community don't even know what wingman is but wingman before they enabled replays and before they enabled um what is it called the like was this person cheating watcher thing i don't know what that's called but whatever before they enabled either of those things was just a hive of villainy in terms of hacking and when they enabled those things it was insane the amount of people that got banned the next day because there was all these replays of people cheating in this special mode that didn't have replays so then just waves of bans it was it was glorious because I I liked to play that mode, but yeah, it's okay

So in addition to it going for you play and the prime status thing There's also a battle royale mode one interesting thing about this battle around like a bill that got passed that I'm not aware of Soon there's gonna be do the battle royale like That would actually be kind of cool. Is that a thing already? like that would actually be kind of cool is that a thing already dota battle royale new dota 2 has a battle royale yeah i was like i'm pretty sure what was this oh i already closed it all right i'm over okay so danger zone most battle royales they're like 100 people right this is 16 that's not really royale. It's much smaller. It's like less than Battlefield.

The map is really, really tiny. Like it says in here, the matches last about 10 minutes each. That makes sense. You can play in solo, duo, or trios. There's no quad. There's no squad or quad or whatever you want to call it. Squad. Yeah, fine.

Yeah, yeah. All right. You pick up guns and equipment and armor and flashbangs and there is a self heal thing which counter strike hasn't had before but there is a self heal thing which makes sense but you also pick up cash

because counter strike has always had the buying mechanics so you can buy stuff but a drone will deliver it to you that's interesting you have a tablet thing so you can see the map and you can see the drone coming to you but everyone else can see the drone and it drops it on you and like if you move a little bit it'll go to where you are interesting so people can hunt the drones down and this is actually a really if you haven't played before do this and get tons of free

kills trust me you hunt the drone down you follow the drone and then you go to where it's dropping it you sit a little bit away you wait for it drone. And then you go to where it's dropping it. You sit a little bit away. You wait for it to drop. And then you just aim where it's dropping. And some dude's going to run up and try to get it. And you just shoot him. It's amazing. There's free kills all the time.

It's, yeah, it's interesting. It's one thing that I like about it is the 10-minute matches. Even if you win, it's like a 10-minute match. Okay. It's a lot faster. That's one improvement. Like, Battle Royale, i had a lot of fun playing pub g not fortnite so much but i had a lot of fun playing pub g like the handful of times i

was able to do it yeah but it's just it's really long unless you could commit like three hours to a gaming session you're not really gonna get into your groove even necessarily like we won our first and third game i think it was so those matches are really long like they actually go on for a very long time and that's been a problem with competitive games for a long time is that their matches last forever a competitive counter-strike match lasts a very long time competitive league of legends match very long time dota 2 very long time lots of these games are really really long so having 10 minute matches is actually very cool and like when you die or

when you win there's a play again button sitting right there click it you get right back into another game it's really fast cool okay yeah one plus's ceo this was posted by dr mcintosh on the forum oh the previous one was princess cadence and the previous one was uh deus of voltage oneplus's ceo tells the truth about 5g the original article here is from the verge and it's from an interview with pete lau about qualcomm snapdragon 855 uh or no it's that sorry it's at the snapdragon tech summit in maui so he said his company is working on both a new 5G OnePlus phone and 4G phones in parallel. He expects the 5G phone will cost as much as $200 to $300 more. Wrap your head around that. Holy cow.

So 5G is coming, but it is not necessarily going to be mainstream. That is one hell of a premium. That's like a G-Sync addition to your phone. So this might not be the case for all new 5G smartphones. Some might try to monetize their existing customer base as much as they can,

just saying, well, you know, people will pay for it, so we're going to price it at whatever we can. While others might try to gain market share by offering 5G connectivity at a cutthroat price. One of the challenges is going to be building 5G phones for multiple carriers that can operate on different frequencies.

So, Laos expects that it will be even more difficult. Now this has gotten easier over time as the antennas that have been integrated into our phones have gotten broader and broader support for 4G LTE frequencies. But now, he expects it's gonna be even more difficult to take a phone from one carrier to another with 5G than it was for 4G. Interesting.

They haven't seen a solution that would cover different carriers, many carriers around the world. Huh. Well, that's pretty scary scary that is kind of scary as if phones weren't expensive enough already so one plus is 5g phone is targeting just one type of 5g network the slower speeds but wider coverage area sub-6 spectrum used by EE, its first carrier partner in Europe. In the US, AT&T and Verizon are both focusing on the faster but lower range millimeter wave. And apparently on the product level, it's much more complex than 4G, like a significantly higher level of challenge, especially millimeter wave.

Huh. It's going to be interesting in places like the US where like I mean Canada has this problem too but I literally think it's worse in the US. The coverage areas are already terrible. Wow that's rough. Maybe like shorter distance, less penetration through walls signals. So this is interesting Walmart has apparently dropped the pricing of their overpowered gaming PCs, I guess to just get rid of them. And then, I don't know, I guess to just get rid of them

and either refresh them with better motherboards or just get rid of them outright. Fascinating. It's too bad because I actually think that there was potential for them to like there were processes that seemed to be fine across the board i was surprised how many people were really upset about the usb3 port being hot glued in oh yeah i mean that just didn't make any sense to me but i didn't think it was that big of a deal yeah but like people thought it was just a horrendous thing really like stuff gets hot glued into pre-built

pcs all the time like that's actually quite common jostle around in shipment yeah and hot glue especially because you gotta remember too i actually didn't test it i should have tested i should have pulled it out there's lots of different kinds of hot glue some of them are actually designed to be quite easy to to peel off like there are lots of electronics that have hot glue on them yeah um no the i thought you were gonna say uh you were surprised people were so upset about the usb 2 on the front and i was gonna say no i was pretty upset about that the front ports were usb 2 come on what year is it literally didn't even know what you're talking about that sounds really stupid um very very stupid especially with the amount of USB 3 front headers you can get now. Like, you can actually put a lot up there pretty easily.

Was the CPU hot glued in too? No. No. No, they got that part right. All right. Bringing us to the end of the show with the Supa Chats. Yeah. All right.

Do an LTT beanie for real, says Andrew. There will be lots more merch stuff. Stay tuned. Yeah, stay tuned. Liam says, will this work? It worked, Liam. Mesh says, what even? What are these super chats?

Well, sometimes people don't, like, they say something within the context of what's happening at that exact second. On the internet, no one knows you're a puppy. That didn't make sense at any point in this stream. Nope, his name is Pup Shepherd though, so. Daniel says, when did you start growing a beard, Luke? Was it when your razor got too dull?

I don't want to talk about it, but I'm i'm looking for a barber because i'm gonna try to have it shaped okay got it i want to keep it going but it's a mess so i just want it to be not a mess dennis asks linus is the 4790k still a good cpu or is it worthwhile to upgrade and if you were to upgrade would you choose ryzen or intel i mostly game i would hold on to it. Oh, but I need more cores for other stuff. Okay. What other stuff? Yeah, that would be helpful to know. If it's just for gaming, no, I would stick with that. Maybe overclock it a little bit. If you need to do other stuff, it depends what the other stuff is and how much of it you do. If you do a lot of other stuff and it needs a lot more cores, I'd go Ryzen. If not, then I'd probably go 8600K or something like that. Post on the forum.

more cores i'd go ryzen if not then i'd probably go 8600k or something like that post on the form yeah um ss amjh says i just bought x470 and ryzen 7 2700x so sad no don't be sad it's a good good comment you're right mr kerwood says subscribe to pewdiepie Subscribe to PewDiePie. Dave says, love LTT. Wanted to make another plea for a retro gaming video team up with retro RGB. I don't know exactly what we do. You know, it's funny. We get, like, collab requests from other creators sometimes. And I got one quite recently that's, like, I'm like, yeah, sure.

That would be kind of neat. But, like. What do we do? what would we do i don't like collabing just for the sake of cross-pollinating it feels icky yeah cross-pollinating yeah i just i just don't care um barshell long sent69 of course he did thoughts on Intel missing the 10 nanometer node oh

so for one thing I do want to point out they didn't entirely miss it they are actually shipping 10 nanometer products right now a lot of people don't know this they have Nooks that do shipping 10 nanometer products right now. A lot of people don't know this. They have nooks that do have 10.

Did you know this? That have 10 nanometer processors in them. Yeah. Yeah. So they didn't miss it altogether. But it's sort of in the same way that they didn't entirely miss Broadwell. Yeah. Broadwell Consumer, to be clear.

Broadwell did make it to HEDT and Enterprise. But yes, they did. They did miss Broadwell, and they do appear to have missed 10 nanometer. Because from what I've been seeing, the rumor is they're kind of trying to go straight to 7 now. Have you seen this as well? Yes. I think we've known, haven't we known that for a bit? So, the thing about Intel is a lot of people like to talk about intel as though intel is a person

with a singular desire and a singular work ethic and a singular um sort of moral compass as though as though it was that simple intel is a lot of giant company there are gigantic companies something like a,000 employees. And they... Even just physical displacement of those employees is very notable. On the one hand, this is a pretty big black mark on what is otherwise an astonishing record of technological innovation over the years. innovation over the years. On the other hand, to me it's less about Intel missing 10 nanometer and more about Intel missing 10 nanometer being indicative of where the technology industry is going over the next 10 years. We have taken for granted that things will just get faster and smaller with better battery life.

We just assume that every year there will be a new iPhone that is better than the old one in some meaningful way. That may actually stop. And it's funny because I remember standing, it was really weird. It was kind of like a Jesus speech. Standing, it was really weird. It was kind of like a Jesus speech. Because Raja Koduri had just come back to AMD,

and I kind of feel like they did it on purpose. Like he was supposed to be kind of like the Messiah to bring their graphics business back from the brink. Meanwhile, he's gone now. But anyway, that's a whole other thing. So he's standing, we're in Hawaii, and he's standing at the top of this kind of hill, and we're all kind of spread out in front of him at the bottom of the hill. No, really.

Wow. We had just kind of hiked up to this thing. It was cool. There were like ruins and stuff. Anyway. There was ruins and stuff? Ruins. Ruins.

Yeah, not those kinds of ruins. I was like, this is getting pretty crazy. No scapey ruins. and he kind of stands up there and declares amd's graphics business to be a software business and remember this was was he wrong how programmable have gpus become in that time yeah and that's effectively what that's that's one piece of this of the puzzle of the direction that we are moving overall and intel missing a node and your applications getting faster and your graphics in your games getting better anyway is sort of an indication of what is to come software tomfoolery like with vr the way that they will inject extra frames to accommodate that graphics cards haven't gotten a lot faster or more

certainly not more affordable software tomfoolery may just be the way it's going to have to be go ahead i think it might be the way it's going to have to be for a little while and then we will change how we're doing things like i mean risk five could come along and really change the game yeah like like there could be completely different architecture styles but that's gonna take time yes okay i i will i will agree with your stance probably for like a little while but i i think i could see it doing that. Five years? For sure. Yeah, I could see that. But I think eventually we're going to change how we do things, and then we'll see advancement again in hardware

or whatever it is at that time. Because like the challenge here, organic computing is a really cool concept. If we could just keep pushing clock speed higher, it would be easier to compensate for some of the trickery that has already made its way into the hardware products. I mean, you look at what happened

with Spectre and Meltdown. Yeah. Anything that requires branch prediction, for example, which dramatically accelerates the CPU. I mean, if you don't have good branch prediction in your CPU, your performance basically sucks these days.

And now all of a sudden there's these exploits that are making it so that it's becoming more challenging to implement these features. I mean, SMT, there was a group that came out and basically said hyper-threading is insecure. We just like shouldn't use it anymore. Meanwhile, poor AMD, oh man, we finally got it. We just added this. So. It's like everyone tells you about this party and you show up. And you show up and everyone's leaving.

It's like, oh. So thoughts on Intel missing the 10 nanometer node. I don't think people are going to stop needing computing devices. And I think Intel is going to continue to be a player in that space, whether it's through innovating their own things or acquiring others or just marketing the heck out of themselves again. But the industry as a whole has gotten less exciting to me oh i'm not gonna hide it and i think that intel is a symptom as opposed to the problem i hope that answer is helpful um i can't read your username but you said fortnite is for children uh war boy please make a video we saw this pc case in half and put it back together with the power of flex tape uh no uh hetriu hi dax hi uh johnny hi wow genzy boy i need a new phone is the vivo next worth it i wouldn't go

vivo next personally i would go something with a better camera mikhail says ordered your coffee should be here in a few days you're gonna be trying it the same time I am because I actually haven't tried it yet. Really? Well, I don't really drink coffee, like, as you know. Yeah. And I wasn't actually in office when they were doing all the testing of, like, the different blends that they concocted for us and stuff. But we had just about a dozen people here try it and like it. Cool.

So what is the blend? Do we know? Can you say? Well, I haven't tried it. Oh, okay. That's fair. So I'll be trying blend? Do we know? Can you say? Well, I haven't tried it. Oh, okay. That's fair. So, I'll be trying it around the same time as everyone else.

And by the way, don't pre-order. But also, I guess, pre-order. Think of it more like supporting LTT and less like pre-ordering. Hi. Cheers. Back to Norway. Qwerty asked, LTX after party? Wow.

No idea. Get back to you on that one. Cameron, time to fly up from Florida for this. That would be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. I can't read your name because you're Russian, but what's the dream hack? Dang it, it's dream hack.

Just Google dream hack. Yeah. Butt says, what exactly is going on at LTX? Lots of stuff. Stay tuned to WAN Show. We're gonna be talking about it on at LTX? Lots of stuff. Stay tuned to WAN Show. We're going to be talking about it a lot. It's going to be great. Gizus says, best phone for gaming, GPS, hotspotting, Bluetooth, and charging. Oh, and charging all at the same time in hot weather without overheating.

I still play Pokemon Go. Oh, no. Hey, Jake, that fan module for the ROG phone, that made a pretty big difference, right? Yeah. Like what, 5 degrees, 10 degrees? I don't know. I don't know exact degrees, but it felt a lot better.

I don't remember. It actually helped. And actually, OnePlus, we found when we were evaluating the Razer gaming phone, OnePlus does a great job of the management of their CPU's power states. So can't recommend those guys enough. OnePlus does a great job of the management of their CPUs power states. So Can't can't recommend those guys enough Clemens says will there be free Madrina's coffee at LTX? Probably not but knowing those guys maybe yeah Tommy says bring channel super fun back Yeah, you heard channel super fun

Really what is it? Yeah, you heard Channel Superfun. Hey, one Channel Superfun video is like half edited right now. Really? What is it? It's the vlog from BAM. Oh, really? Someone's spending time editing that mess? That's a shame. Well, in their downtime. Well, no, I don't even care. I just mean that it must be painful. I think so. It was somebody who didn't go on the trip is editing it too. Oh my goodness. That's kind of funny. Mr. Boisvert says,

Dear LTT team, Australia just passed a very problematic bill to break encryption on any online service. I editorialize to the very problematic bit. This is extremely problematic. What? Have you not heard about this? No. We probably should have covered this on the show today. It's kind of a big deal. Basically, they are mandating back doors. Why?

I mean, I don't think they're going to do it. But if I was Google and Facebook and Microsoft and Amazon. Just don't be there anymore. And I thought I knew what was best for my entire industry moving forward. I would completely pull out of Australia. Like, now. Let the Australian people be super mad

that they can't reach anybody on any services that they are accustomed to using and beat down the doors of their elected representatives and get this fixed the fact that Australia is so messed up in regards to how they deal with internet is just insane it's it's such a mess yeah neon visual asks if I can bring the Backstreet Boys back to LTX oh my god at like four in the morning, we should play it on the speakers.

It'd be so amazing. Yes. Anonymous, got a dream job. Wanna support my favorite YouTubers, sent $500. Wow. Is that the maximum you can send in a Super Chat? I think so. I have no idea.

There is a max. That's crazy. Holy crap, thank you. Thanks Anonymous. We're glad to be your favorite. We're glad someone else wasn't your favorite. Nick says, thank you, Linus and the media group. I like that.

It's kind of like a band. Linus and the media group. For giving me the confidence to build my first PC today. Rock on, man. So does that count as having your name in it? Linus in the meeting group? Wow. Okay.

No, it doesn't. All right. I think that's pretty much it. Thanks for watching, you guys. And we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Goodbye. And we'll see you on Floatplane next week.

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