The WAN Show - Samsung Discontinuing LCD Production?! - WAN Show April 03, 2020

Episode Date: April 5, 2020

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no way for me to really go yeah yeah yeah this this whole uh this whole quarantine thing is working out absolutely great for you I am 100% certain that you are self-quarantined only 50 percent out of concern for the virus the other 50 percent is definitely because you hated going out anywhere anyway yeah i will say one thing i'm actually quite sad because of the timing because i was really i i used to do this thing called sports day and on a certain day of the week myself and some friends would go to a field and just play random sports and i was like really excited to get that going again um you've never invited me to that are we not friends oh that's a no i have actually you have you have i was never able to come i had very young children at the time in my defense in my

defense you might be able to now but now we can't go outside yeah i would be super jazzed to come to sports day now but that doesn't seem to be in the cards i'm hoping that we can get like one in this summer but anyways we've got a great show for you guys today intel's 10th gen mobile processors have been announced and they actually look like they might give amd a run for their money if by give them a run for their money we're talking raw performance as opposed to efficiency which is typically one of the ways that we do in fact measure the performance of a mobile processor in other news razor releases a new blade 15 with a 300 hertz display ouch get it 8400 megahertz ram ddr starts oh you know ouch for everyone of those jokes in a while but razor and all the other people that are going to have 300 hertz displays

ddr5 mass production starts this year that'll be interesting also samsung that'll be interesting really that's all the commentary you have on that no no i want more i want more i know this is the intro but you got to give me more than that we uh we won't see it for a while and its impact on intel side probably won't be that high all right cool all right you can tell me about the samsung thing now the samsung thing yeah uh samsung to cease all lcd production in 2020 uh samsung display decided to end all of its production of lcd panels in south korea and china by the end of this year they announced on tuesday wow that is crazy huge actually yeah why is that marked rumor because our source source is like Reuters, which is generally not

associated with rumor mongering. Okay, we're gonna have to get a little bit of clarification on that one. Unfortunately, all the all the writers are contributing kind of their top stories to the doc these days. And whoever contributed that one didn't mark it. So we're just gonna have to make some wild guesses. I'm gonna guess some wild guesses i'm gonna guess james and i'm gonna guess that it's time to roll that intro they can hear us i think i'm not sure if they can hear the intro wait we did a test can they hear the intro music uh yeah okay cool is it is it super loud or is it is it okay this week it was oh no one's screaming yet okay cool well that's a good sign and the show is brought to you today by backblaze honey

and private internet access i didn't see any of those come up on screen if you did. No, they didn't because I didn't copy the lower third versions of the sponsor pictures. So they weren't there, but I said them. I said them verbally, and I'm pretty sure they still have to pay us if I do that. So it should be fine. That's a goal. That's the important part. Mission accomplished. You know, look, the videos are just a distraction, okay?

That's the shiny object i hold up the keys i'm jangling the keys lttstore.com that's the real play yeah oh that video was so much fun to make actually that was a total blast guys you should have seen luke's other takes because it's possible that they were worse. Yeah, they probably were. Yeah. I actually don't know if they were. I think that might have been the worst one.

I think they might have intentionally taken the least believable take of that scene. And guys, guys, it was amazing. So I actually watched Riley coaching Luke. Like Riley was Luke's acting coach for that shot. And he's like, he's like, he's showing him how to do the cry. Right. And it's like, he's like, okay, no, no, don't worry. You don't have to cry.

You just. Can you do the cry for us, Luke? Can you cry a little bit? I could try, but i'm so bad as everyone has seen and like he wanted me to crunch over as if i got like hit in the side and then just scrunch my face as much as possible that was my like guidance so i was supposed to just be like and that was that was it there was no like follow-up i wasn't supposed to make any noise when he did the um because i told him i told him when we were reviewing the script i was like look riley um that's not i don't think that's gonna fly because he had he

actually had a lot of um more acting heavy uh things written into the original script so colton was actually going to be the mastermind and i was just like a pawn in his game and he had like all these interactions oops sorry guys and he had all these interactions between me and colton like scripted out where he was gonna i was gonna be like oh i'm sorry i'm sorry for doing it wrong and colton was gonna like yell at me it's rog can't you get that through your idiot head like like there was a whole different dynamic to it and i was like look here's the problem the acting skill that you have to work with here may not be up to the standards

that you're accustomed to, Mr. Murdoch. And he's like, no, no, this isn't that hard. And I'm like, no, no, it's hard. Anyway, so when we were on the iteration where I'm like the jerk, because I don't know what it is, but I have a really easy time playing like a total jerk boss on camera.

You know, it's like, it feels like I'm barely even acting, you know? I just, you know, it's just all the things I want to say. I just let them out. No, no, for real though. Like I really enjoy playing the bad guy for whatever reason i have way too much fun with it and when i'm having fun it's just i just find it really easy so we're on the

iteration where i'm just like the jerk who knows absolutely nothing about computers rather than being like a victim in all of this and um he he shows me the the dialogue for your interview. And I'm like, Luke can't act. He can't cry. You can't ask that of him. And he's like, no, no, don't worry. It's easy. All he has to do is. And I'm like, OK, maybe.

That's how he sold me on it. The way he did it was so funny, though. That guy is so funny. he's hilarious it's much much funnier than i am and like i i tried to even explain linus kept on just saying like i told you so because i was trying to explain to riley like i can't do this this is not my type of acting. I can act like upset or angry. Yeah. You can handle anger pretty well. Yeah. Like we've done some,

some skits and like some just kind of goofy, cringy stuff like that where Luke has to act angry and he can do it. Like he's kind of scary. Got like a hundred pounds on me. The, the like sad or interested when i'm not which is a bit of an issue when you're reviewing things and like a few other things i have troubles with yeah yeah anger though anger luke can act angry and i can act like a jerk so like whenever we whenever we've done skits where like i'm supposed to be a jerk and he's supposed to be mad done skits where like i'm supposed to be a jerk

and he's supposed to be mad about it it's like people are like wow these guys can act i was like no not really not really the one dimensional yeah all right why don't we jump into our first topic for the day um you know let's go straight into samsung um to be ceasing all LCD production. So this is South Korean panel maker Samsung Display. This is from Reuters.com has decided to end all of its production of LCD displays in South Korea and China by the end of this year. So just to clarify, this is Samsung Display, which, like LG Display, is not the same thing as Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., the company that you would buy your fancy Galaxy smartphone or even your Samsung-branded consumer TV from. So Samsung Display makes panels that they then actually sell to the separate company, Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. So that's how you avoid a situation where Apple is suing Samsung over copying the iPhone or whatever. And then Apple also needs to buy display panels from Samsung.

Those are two separate companies, actually. And they will definitely continue to work together. One really important note here too is that they're ceasing the production of lcd they're not ceasing the production of screens or panels they're just ceasing the production of lcd screens and panels they're they're moving to oled and stuff like that they're moving on they're moving forward so one thing that's a little bit confusing to me is i i can't um like i it drives me crazy but i think part of this is just like a like a branding thing because samsung can you turn your notifications down because samsung is ceasing uh the production of lcds

but they are going to keep manufacturing. So the investment for the next five years will be focused on converting one of the South Korean LCD lines into a facility to mass produce more advanced quantum dot screens. Yeah, I think they're legitimately, I think part of this announcement

is a marketing ploy. Because they're like, they're new the thing is that they're not the same so so right now samsung's entire qled lineup is based on lcd panels with a quantum dot layer that helps them be more efficient and have a wider color gamut and all those benefits that you get from quantum dots. But Samsung has, it seems, very intentionally branded their QLED displays very similarly to OLED and very separately from LCDs. So what's not clear to me right now, though, is when they say, and this is a quote from the article, when they say they're going to produce more advanced quantum dot screens, what they're not saying is whether those are going to be quantum dot screens with LCDs as the foundational technology,

or if those are going to be the upcoming, I've heard rumors of this i actually haven't looked into it for a while so i don't know how how solid any of it is but the upcoming oled based quantum dot displays because there's no actual reason that you couldn't use an oled panel and quantum dot to work with each other i just think no one has done it yet uh don't quote me on any of that though i just i was like up late reading months ago and was looking into that. But so we just don't know what kind of quantum dot display Samsung's going to be working on over there. Whatever they end up doing, they're far from ending display production. Oh, yeah.

If anything else, they're just like retooling their facility and moving forward. The big announcement here is really that they're investing $10.72 billion in their facilities and research to convert their current LCD production facilities to more advanced quantum dot production facilities. Whatever that necessarily means in terms of what's driving it behind it is slightly up in the air right now. Wait, no, that is in our notes. Oh, good.

Yeah, good. It wasn't in that article, but it must be in one of the other ones. So the first iteration of these more advanced Quantum Dot screens, yay, will use OLED displays and Quantum Dot as a film. They're expected to the market in 2022.

Woo. Cool. So we're good. Yeah. So they currently run two LCD production lines at factories in South Korea and two LCD-only factories in China.

Last October, they suspended one of the LCD Korean lines. They have not yet decided on the future operation of their factories in China. Last October, they suspended one of the LCD Korean lines. They have not yet decided on the future operation of their factories in China. LG Display said earlier this year that they're going to halt domestic production of LCD TV panels by the end of 2020. So it looks like basically what's happened is the Chinese LCD makers have come in and flooded the market with panels at lower prices, and it's no longer profitable to produce LCDs. The good news is that if you're Samsung and you're LG,

you're used to playing this game. You're always trying to get one step out ahead of the curve. So that's why for the last three, four, five, 10 years, you've been working on refining OLED, years you've been working on refining OLED or you've been working on microLED. And so by the time LCD gets cheap and, you know, basically anyone can buy a gigantic TV for a few hundred dollars that's big enough to fill their living room, which is basically where we're at, they're going to have something that's newer and better and more compelling in some meaningful way that they can actually make a decent amount of margin on. So I, for one, am super excited about micro LED getting to a new level of affordability because the performance is already amazing. You haven't done a trade show with us in a while, but micro LED displays have gotten freaking nuts. And, you know, I think we're TV manufacturers are up against a lot of

bottlenecks right now. And by bottlenecks, I mean bottlenecks in the ways that they can make the user experience more enjoyable. So for a long time, it was making your TV, you know, possible to move around and making it take up less space in your living room. Right. Back when we went from CRTs to, you know, plasmas or like the, the early LCDs, I mean, the early LCDs, they didn't have an image quality advantage over CRT, right. Yeah. And they were more expensive. They were just, they were slimmer and that was cool. They weren't, they didn't weigh an obscene amount. They weren't like impossible to move. You could mount them up on a wall, other cool stuff like that.

So next up was the resolution war. So we went from, you know, what is it? 12, 12, whatever, by like 768 being an HD TV up to, you know, now you've got 4K and even 8K displays on the market. All right. Meanwhile, you've got the size war. Actually, the size war probably came before the resolution war. They were really pushing up sizes

with like rear projection and then with LCDs later once those got more affordable. Then we've got the resolution. Oh yeah, then we got the gimmicks in between, you know, your 3D, stereoscopic 3D, which actually was a very cool experience on the first generation LG signature

because OLED pixels are actually fast enough that you got really great separation. And I was actually kind of disappointed that the next generation signature did away with 3D because I own a couple of pretty great 3D Blu-rays and they looked amazing. I was gonna say, I think most people haven't had, including myself, I believe you,

that you had this experience, but I think most people haven't had a very positive like TV, 3D experience. It's because it's LCD, it's not fast enough. It's not fast enough. You have to have that clear image separation and enough brightness. And in a dark room, that OLED, wow.

I think Taren has that at his house so if you could convince him to let you come over for a movie night not right now all right now movie night ain't a thing um but it it is is i i gave him the glasses too he's got at least two pairs of glasses for it so it's worth it's worth trying it's really good um so anyway you had your gimmicks in there and then now we're up against a problem because you can't, you can't make them any thinner, right? It's, it's already at the point where you can literally mount a TV on your wall as wallpaper. Okay. If you, if you're willing to spend the money for it and even the ones that you can't put on as wallpaper are good enough,

you've reached the point where more resolution is actually meaningless. Going from 4K to 8K. And in fact, meanwhile, so the TV manufacturers are pushing up the resolution. Meanwhile, NVIDIA is sitting over there going like, oh, yeah, we can just use like AI upscaling to basically increase the perceived sharpness of the image in a way that doesn't degrade it. And that tech is getting really good. So it's integrated into the new Shield TV. Jake's working on a review right now

and it'll take 1080p content and upscale it to 4K. It's like, it's looking pretty fine, pretty tight. So, okay, that's totally pointless. And then the size of the displays themselves has gotten to the point where you can like the, I'm not going to say the average family, but I'm going to say the like American dream family. Okay. So you got your minivan, you got your suburban house. Um, you know what I'm talking about, right? They can afford a 65 to 77 inch TV, assuming that they're

not buying a new one every year. You know what I mean? Like if you're upgrading your TV on a reasonable cycle, like every five years or something like that, you can, any, anyone, you know, like the, a family can own a gigantic TV, like the kind people used to assume that you had to be a millionaire to own. It's, it's, that's not the case anymore and it's to the point where you can't even transport them there's like i think i think there's like 65 if you find the right chinese panel you can get like 65 inch tvs this might be in u.s dollars to be clear uh but for like 300 350 bucks exactly that's what i'm talking about 300 which is probably a little

higher now so probably close to 350 50, three 99 is like the target big electronic purchase price. It's like your Xbox, your PlayStation, your switch, your TV, they're all around that price. Cause that's, uh, more digestible for that target. You were just talking about the disposable, that's the, like this disposable income magic number. That's why the Swiss, yeah. Like every every game console basically like that's what you know early discmans cost you know mini disc players like that's the price point everyone's going for for a reason um but they're at the point now where you can't really okay we can hdr can get better hdr can keep getting better but to a lot of people that's not going to be as meaningful

of an improvement and now that you can get a 4k 120 hertz tv like you finally bought a tv after all these years yes which one did you go with did you go with the b or the c series the the one you recommend okay i think i recommended the b yeah it's like basically it's amazing quality and i got it at the perfect time because now we're my whole my roommate my girlfriend and i are all quarantined in the house and now we have this sweet tv so it's actually worked out really well have you gamed on it yet uh not much but a little bit yes so and it's it's nice we're at the point now where you can get a 4k 120 hertz oled panel for like you know pretty affordable

and it's got great hdr so so so basically in order to improve things you kind of got to go big again like i think that you could convince you to upgrade if you could have like your whole wall covered in tv for like the same price as what you paid now hold on though hold on we're talking about. We're talking with perfect black levels. Right. Because that's what micro LED offers. It's perfect black, just like OLED. So what you could effectively do is like cover your wall with these panels and then you could have like a configurable TV. So you could have it be like super ultra panoramic for movies. You could have it be like huge for just like, you know, video chatting. You could have a like live wall. Yeah. A live wall. That could be like one of those, uh, you know, the, like the, the TV itself has this, but the Chromecast version is way better when it like play, it puts random pictures on the

screen. Exactly. You had a live wall that was kind of like that. And you could have like a moving i know i just said moving picture but you know what i mean like like a still camera long-term shot of like the hills of switzerland or some craziness like that that would be amazing that's coming and i bet not far behind it is going to be like the built-in eye tracking technology so that as you walk past it like it's like a window and cool stuff like that. It's absolutely coming.

And I think that's really where they have to go to incentivize anyone who's buying a TV today to upgrade because I'm at the point now where the one in my living room, which is basically identical to yours,

is like endgame. I don't desire. It feels like it. I don't desire anything else. Me neither. It's fine. This is small, but I haven't owned a tv

uh i this is the first first tv that i've ever purchased i traded for one i gave someone some ram and a cpu cooler yeah and i got a tv this is the first tv i've ever purchased um and we plugged the switch into the tv because my girlfriend wanted to play Animal Crossing on the TV. And she grabbed the remote and pressed the voice control button and said, like, open Nintendo Switch or something. And I was like, oh, that's not going to work. You have to tell it, like, what input to go through. And the TV was just like, opening Nintendo Switch, and just worked immediately. I was like, what? Stuff's pretty good these days, man.

I think that kind of stuff is pretty cool. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to our next topic. So yeah, they're seizing LCD production, but it's not a big deal because they're still going to make displays. They're just going to be ones

that they can actually make margin on and that push things forward. And microLED is where I'm really excited. The good news is they've got you know five years to eight years while all the people that are still rocking you know early generation lcds get through their upgrade cycle um but i don't i think at the enthusiast level there's not going to be much to incentivize people past what we have now all right let's talk about the 10th gen mobile processor shall we yes this was posted by william cll on the forum and we've

basically got graphs of how much better the new generation is compared to a three-year-old processor the i7 7820hk in games now the notes say that there are graphs um so hopefully I will find them. Is that what this is? Did, oh, okay. Yeah, sure. Oh,

I guess. Oh boy. Do I have, oh, and you're dead. Uh, Luke, are you still there?

You don't see, you don't see the screen. Oh, oh, Hey, look at that. Yes, I do.

Can you, uh, shovel of it a little bit to the right? Is there a way for you to do that? Uh, you know what? No, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Good to do that uh you know what no don't worry about it don't worry about it good no no don't don't worry about it it's good enough all right cool

so you want to scroll us down to those performance graphs there yeah hey there they are look at that okay so intel estimates that the gaming advantage compared to a three-year-old laptop now wait a second are they factoring in that this new laptop is gonna have a better gpu in it where's the wait what is the three-year-old laptop they're comparing against now just a just a just a gosh darn moment here. Okay. Usually, Intel is pretty good about having, like, the configuration of the systems that they're using listed somewhere at the bottom of these claims, you know, with all the little asterisks and stuff. I don't see it. Yeah.

I don't see anything. Oh, wait. Maybe on the 10th Gen Core Mobile processors slide. No, I don't see anything. Oh, wait, maybe on the 10th gen core mobile processors slide. No, I don't see the specs here. All right. Well, at any rate, there's the lineup. So at the top end, you've got the 10980HK. That is an overclockable chip, although good freaking luck. That's base clock 2.4, max single core turbo of 5.3. That is pretty nuts. Then you've got the i7-10875H. Oh yeah, that is an 8-core 16-thread processor.

This next one down is also 45 watts, also 8-core 16-thread, and it turbos up to 5.1 with a base clock of 2.3. Moving right on down, we've got a couple of six cores i think that 10850h could be a really interesting one so that six cores 45 watts 5.1 maximum single core turbo that one's pretty interesting to me that 2.7 gigahertz all core boost or all core uh yeah base or that 2.7 base is pretty nice and then you move down into we've got another six core that's also

an i7 and the i5s are both quad core eight thread but these are all 45 watt tdp processors which basically tells us right out of the gate that the compete level with hamd's um fourth gen ryzen mobile is just it's good this is going to be tough this is going to be an uphill battle and yeah they've got fancy slides in here talking about up to 54 more fps uh versus a three year old pc but like if you are conveniently leaving out and conveniently comparing to a three-year-old pc versus a two-year-old one because the two-year-old one would be equipped with a very similar graphics card like you're if you're ignoring the graphics card upgrades that have taken place over the last couple of years you are really reaching so a question i have for you

yes is in the in the time of this covid stuff and there's there's stuff going around that this might last a couple or a few more months or who knows um laptop purchase and investment what do you think huh because when i saw this i'm like okay so they're they're launching a new mobile processor but i wonder what the what the market for mobile stuff is going to be i could kind of see arguments potentially for both a higher interest in buying something mobile and a lower interest in buying something mobile. You now have more people with the prospect of potentially working from home. You can get kind of nicer experiences for working from home out of a desktop. That being said, if you need to invest in a computer, investing a computer that you can take back to work or back to school

or whatever else when those organizations open up again might be kind of the play. Let's get into that topic in a minute because I just checked the notes. And yes, in fact, the comparable system that they're comparing against, the three-year-old laptop has a GTX 1080 and the new one has an RTX 2080. And the source for that information is one Alex Clark from Linus Tech Tips, it's a YouTube channel you might have heard of, on a conference call with Intel about these processors. So that seems like a pretty good, pretty good source. Well, that's pretty silly data then. Ouch. So he's got some speculation in here. Will these be able to beat the new Ryzen 9? He says,

this is a guess in all caps, probably in performance. He's probably right, but it'll take a huge laptop with much more cooling. And this is also a guess, but probably a correct guess. So there's loads of new premium laptops coming out with these. Um, so we'll be interested to see if, uh, if, uh, if they, if they hold up, you can expect reviews for sure. All right, let's change gears and let's talk about whether now is the right time to buy a laptop or a desktop after this message from our sponsors backblaze yeah i got them beautiful more at 11 backblaze is an unlimited cloud backup for macs and pcs for just six dollars a month they've got over 35 billion files restored you can back up docs music photos videos drawings projects all the basically. That's what it says. That is in my talking points, all the data. You can restore files from anywhere, download them directly

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i think yeah you're biased yeah okay try to be like this try again i'm pretty into desktops i think now would be the time to go in for a desktop you think so yeah you know what oh man it's tough okay you're stuck at home if you've if you've never built a computer before you you probably have time for projects whether or not you're able to've never built a computer before you you probably have time for projects whether or not you're able to fit in building a computer in that project i don't know but you probably have time for projects you could dive into building a computer now there's a bunch of nerds also stuck at home and probably help you if you have a phone you would be able to show a uh like video of you could do a video call with someone and show like

most people are for work and stuff these days uh and show them exactly what's going on and get it fixed no problem i'm sure there's gonna be no issue there and then you'll have the premium experience during the duration of the quarantine yeah i think that's pretty cool i think that's fair you're leaning a little bit to your right there sorry there we go yep that's a little better thanks luke but then i can also fully understand the argument of like i need to get a computer for the home but i won't really use it in my home once quarantine stuff is over uh and having one that you could take with you to your work or to your school or wherever you need to go um so that's why i'm torn because on the one hand it is a great time to build a desktop so we did a we did a machine on live stream earlier today

actually i built a machine that let me just check the the specs of it but it was like 800 bucks 800 dollars um they accidentally the rgb one was actually not included in the $800. Oops. So that was my bad, but hold on. Let me just have a look here. Either way, that's a few, a few bucks adder and you don't have to buy that one if you don't want. So Ryzen 5 3600X, that is a six core processor with great performance. That is basically as high as you need to go to play any game on the market with any graphics card. I mean, you can go higher if you want, and then you can, you know, video encode for days or whatever, but that is a great chip. Decent ASRock B450 board that supports everything you need, as long as you're not trying

to run SLI or like, you know, fancy 10 gigabit per second front panel USB or anything like that. It's got, it's got everything you really need. It's got 16 gigs of RAM. I think we put two sticks of these 8 gig DDR4-3200 in there. 512 gig M.2 SSD. The RTX 2060 KO. So that's the cool one that's using the same GPU as the 2070. And so has a bit better performance in compute applications. Decent case, 500 watt, 80 plus gold EVGA power supply.

That is a good system for 800 you could throw a cheap monitor keyboard and mouse and you are ready to go for under a grand so that's fantastic because the reality of it is i don't know what it is but somehow laptops just seem to slow down over time don't they and there's nothing scientific that i can find to back up to to back it up. But they were fast, and then they feel slow. I don't get it. And they seem to die faster.

That's been my experience with them in general. They definitely die faster. Yeah. I mean, my girlfriend is still using my old 2600K GTX 780 setup. Oh, there's no way you're running a laptop from that era and having a good experience. No, and her experience is totally fine. Okay, but let me give

you the counterpoint to that argument. I need to check pricing on this one real quick here. We also did a video this week on the Zephyrus G14. Let me just see if that one is uh is up yet ryzen 7 second gen yeah no it looks like it looks like that particular model is not up on new egg yet unfortunately um but that's a laptop with a solid solid graphics card in it basically desktop level gaming performance out of the cpu

um laptops have also come a long way in terms so here hold on so rtx 2060 it's got um the ryzen 9 4900 hs which is just an unbelievable chip eight cores threads. It turbos up to 4.3 gigahertz, which on AMD's architecture is awesome. 512 gigs of storage, 14 inch display. You can get a high refresh rate one. So you can get a 120 hertz display. For what is more money, yes. That is a great experience.

And if you hooked it up to an external monitor and you're willing to live that dongle life when you when you sit with it at your desk there is so much high speed io on a laptop these days that you can do basically whatever you want to do i streamed last week it wasn't pleasant because i didn't have the ergonomics sorted out, but I streamed WAN show last week with multiple sources off of an Ultrabook. And that was one that was only a six core. And it was an Intel one that's not as powerful as this new Ryzen processor, which is an eight core. And you can get in like a slim laptop. There's something to be said for being able to take the performance with you. Yes, it's

less on the go and be able to use the same machine both at work and at home absolutely and in terms of dongle expansion you could even just go with one of the like amazon basics desktop usb3 extension not extension uh expansion i don't know but it like powers itself through the wall so it's able to deliver full power to all the USB ports it's it's actually really nice and it's like 30 bucks or something um and then you don't actually really have to deal with all these short kind of dangly annoying dongles because you can place that wherever you want and I just yeah sorry go ahead I I think yeah if you have a very strong argument for the mobility of the computer down the line

when we're out of quarantine, that's its own thing. I just think right now is especially a strong argument for building a desktop. I don't think you're wrong. I mean, the desktop is going to be more upgradable in the long term. It's just that we also happen to be going through a big leap forward in performance for notebooks at this very moment right now.

So it's just a good time to get a computer, you know? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. All right. Join all those crazy amount of people that have started playing computer games. The stats out of like Steam and Twitch and all this kind of stuff is crazy over the last few weeks. Hey, even I got a streaming setup. I want to stream some Anno this weekend.

Oh, there you go. I've got like the key lights and everything. Like you can't see it. I look pretty crappy on your feed just because I've got a webcam at about 10 FPS. I'm moving my head back and forth and Luke's feed looks hilariously bad. But I've got a DSLR that I'm using for the WAN show. It actually looks, in my opinion, quite crisp. I can see it on,

I have the Twitch and Floatplane and YouTube streams. Because I'm on my desktop at home. Desktop, it wouldn't matter because you could plug monitors into a laptop, whatever. Don't worry about it. But I have lots of monitor space. So I can just put everything everywhere. It's great.

You know what? That's another thing too, is like laptop IO has come a long way. I talk a lot about how great Thunderbolt is, but you don't even need Thunderbolt. Like a USB 10 gigabit per second, 10 gigabit per second. That is a lot of data.

You could have a couple of capture cards running off of a single one of those ports. No problem at all. So yeah, something to be said both ways. On the subject of laptops, this was one of Colin's suggestions for topics today. Razer released a new Blade 15 with a 300 hertz display. So that's kind of nuts, full HD, or you can get an OLED 4k touchscreen. If you prefer that, uh, it's got HDR 400 certification on the OLED panel, man, HDR and laptops. We needed OLED to come for that to happen just because you can't do it on an LCD without

full array, local dimming. And you'd have a laptop that's like this thick. Um, I don't want to be, I don't want to be boring, but all of this is like, I don't know, but all of this is like, I don't know, 300 Hertz on a laptop or 4K on a laptop are both things that I would... Are you just salty because you don't have it? They're both things I would definitely not invest my money in. Okay, 4K on a laptop, I'm with you 100%.

Makes no sense. 1440p should have been the laptop resolution five years ago, and it should still be the laptop resolution today. There is no reason to be pushing those extra pixels on a 14 inch, 15 inch device. It makes no sense. As for 300 Hertz, why not?

I'm not, it's not the worst thing. I just don't want to spend my money on it. So I was surprised when we did the test with Corey Shroud and with Grims. I was surprised because I always thought going from 60 to 120 was night and day. And then past there, it was kind of like point of diminishing returns. But the amount of improvement that we saw once we were measuring it empirically from those guys even going up to 240 hertz was noticeable so i would be interested

to see do they actually get another maybe it's just 10 maybe it's just eight percent better but when you're talking competitive gaming i would take eight percent any day of the week i just i would take anything i can get because i suck but that's a whole conversation me too oh shut up shut up now no oh dude i refuse to talk you're talking really high-end competitive gaming i don't know how much of that happens on a laptop i'm sure some does i know people that have been super super into gaming that played on a laptop, but that being their main system seems like maybe a little bit of a stretch to me personally. But I don't know.

It's cool to have those options for people, I guess. It's just very notably not for me. If I want to really try hard at a game, I'll sit down at a desktop. You're really showing off your uh your corona beard here i never told luke that i wouldn't talk to you guys so i'm going to talk on the show just not to him i've got another great topic to tell you guys about here. So 8400 megahertz RAM is now coming. DDR5 mass production starts this year. So we began the transition from DDR3 to DDR4 six years ago. Wrap your brain around that. Six years ago, the transition began. And now memory suppliers are finally laying the groundwork

for the leap from DDR4 to DDR5. Now, DDR4 has gotten better. It's gotten faster. The latencies have gotten better. It has definitely been refined in that time. But we have not had a generational leap forward in quite some time, ladies and gentlemen. This makes so much sense. Jaden asked me. Sorry, guys, can you hear something right now?

I'm not going to go into why, but Jayden asked me for a graphics card and some RAM, and I was able to hook him up. And I asked him, like, do you need DDR3 or DDR4? And he kind of paused for a second, as in, like, what do you even mean? And then was like, DDR4? And I was like, well, I don't know.

But, yeah, I guess no one really needs that sk hynix is claiming that ddr5 will ultimately offer twice the bandwidth currently available with ddr4 modules uh so the current ddr4 modules top out well the jadex certified ones top out at 3200 megahertz although you can definitely get ones that go faster uh so there will be a 50 boost in bandwidth meaning that ddr5 48 there will be a 50% boost in bandwidth, meaning that DDR5-4800 should be commonplace, but speeds will ramp up from there, and they claim they'll reach up to DDR5-8400 MHz in the future.

The modules will operate at just 1.1 volt versus 1.2 volts. There will be on-die error correction for more reliable technology node scaling by correcting single-bit errors internally. That's pretty sweet. 32-bank structure, an upgrade from DDR4, 16 banks per four bank groups. I wonder if that's just for error-correcting memory or if that's for everything.

Burst length of 16 versus 8 for DDR4. Same thing on DDR5. We'll offer a wide range of density based on 16 gigabit and even 24 gigabit monolithic dies in order to meet the needs of cloud service customers. Really? 24 gigabit dies. Huh.

That's the first time I think I've seen like an oddball die size like that. Mass production will begin later this year cool sorry can you guys hear something i'm over i really thought you were gonna bite on that i'm over it i'm back i'm back i forgive you for claiming to be bad at gaming he's so much better than me that to hear him say that he's bad is basically a direct insult to me because it means that i must be gutter trash but this whole debate isn't fair either because you just never play games so once you play a game long enough you're really

good at it no no i wouldn't be i wouldn't we've proven this a number of times my raw skills are just not enough not enough to compete. I'm afraid. Mind you, I'm pretty sure we played three matches of pub G when he had never touched the game ever before. And we won two out of our first three. Yeah,

but I didn't do anything. We were playing with Joe. I didn't do much. I don't remember what the names of the guns are in that game. Cause I haven't played for in forever, but he had one of the lower damage snipers and he would always tag people before engages at least once or twice and then we're able to just clean them up that's super valuable you just didn't get the killing blows yeah i didn't i don't think i got any kills so yeah there's that it's fine it's a support role support

role yeah that's another way of saying that i'm not good enough to play in the front line um i'm definitely better than you at beat saber though so i'm uh i'm taking i'm taking that to the bank i i've been i've been playing so much i've like gotten a lot better too i i don't think i'd ever be able to properly compete with you because i don't have the that type of wrist movement it's not exactly my forte i was showing yvonne uh yeah you're more into uh sorry i was showing yvonne like how i move my wrists for beat saber i was like yeah it's gotta be you're showing yvonne how you move your wrist oh yeah you gotta pronate right you gotta pronate and instead of kind of slicing like this you know instead of being like this you gotta slice through like this and And she was like, oh.

And then we actually got from there into working on her badminton swing. Because I was like, yeah, it should be just like your badminton swing. And she's like, yeah, I'm swinging just like my badminton swing. I'm like, oh, well, then your badminton swing's wrong. We got to fix that. Unfortunately, we can't go anywhere and play because all the gyms are closed. So that blows. But I'm looking forward to getting back into it.

My weird little ball thing has shipped now to like hit against the wall in practice. What's the ETA? There is no ETA. It's shipped via like economy because I wasn't willing to pay $12 or whatever. Okay. All right. Let's talk about this is kind of a big topic. Cloudflare is now offering filtering for pornography and malware.

So this was posted by TetrisGuy on the forum. And if you're not familiar, Cloudflare has their 1.dns, so 1.1.1.1. And they are launching a new product, which is 1.1.1.1 for families offering all the good stuff about 1.1.1.1 which is um faster dns queries um but now with filtering for malware and adult content so if you use 1.1.1.2 that'll block malware that they're aware of i mean obviously it won't catch everything and if you do 1.1.1.3 it will block malware and adult content should we try it live on stream no really you don't want to part of you is tempted you're tempted you're a little i mean i'm very interested i'm i'm honestly more interested because i don't really care about the other one i'm more interested in uh the malware how they decide something's

malware yep um i'm interested in how they decide what adult content is because is it just pornography like are we are we opening up the pandora's box of internet filtration here? Is Reddit banned? I doubt it. I'm sure Reddit is permitted. I doubt it too, but like, is Tumblr banned? Probably not anymore because I guess they did away with that. So here's how it works.

In the coming months, they'll be launching options to create whitelists and blacklists of certain sites, and you'll be able to set the times of day when categories such as social media are blocked and you'll be able to get reports on your household's internet usage so this is intended to be something that much like um there was a product from uh ah shoot i think it was the bitdefender box yeah there was a product from bitdefender that um i showed that you can basically install as your router or in between your router and your broader internet connection that would do this kind of filtration and reporting. But this is pretty much just being able to do it through your router's DNS settings,

which is very, very interesting. It uses the same site categorization and filtering technology that powers Cloudflare's Gateway product. And I'm not that familiar with it. Are you? No. Okay. Well, that's unfortunate. I mean, they have a lot of different stuff. As a parent, man, I could see myself using this. Like just, yeah, kids are always going to be able to get through stuff, but making it a little more difficult, like making it a little more difficult like making it a little less convenient um not necessarily a bad thing yeah i don't know what gateway is i mean i could see putting the uh i could see just

using the malware blocker at the office like you never know if someone's gonna just derp and like accidentally infect the whole place yeah that that could be helpful for some things. Someone in Twitch chat said apparently the filter, as with other similar filters in the past, it has issues with LGBT content. Yep. Inappropriately flagging it. So that's interesting, something to maybe pay attention to.

I don't know. When it's not manually done, it's interesting what it's going to catch and what it's not going to catch. Powered by lava lamps or whatever. Yeah. That's what happens when we trust the lava lamps. It is very cool.

We put the lava lamps in charge yeah yeah all right we got a couple lava lamps we're deciding i i'm in i'm done all right do you want to fire up ltdstore.com because we got a pretty pretty cool update i just go ahead and screen share that so guys you can join the folding team now with your shirt. There it is. We've got a folding shirt. So the profits from this one, not the proceeds. We do need to cover the actual costs of the shirts and printing and all that. But the profits from these are going to go directly to folding at home efforts. We're not 100% sure what form they're going to take yet. It's possible that we will be keeping our folding farm, our folding farm, excuse me, our, sorry, COVID efforts. Okay,

they're going towards COVID efforts. So it's possible that we're going to keep our 3D printing face shield farm running and actually hire one of Colin's maker buddies to run that. So we could cover some of the costs of running that, whether it's filament or a salary for someone to keep that running for as long as Operation Shields Up needs more face shields. We might end up donating it directly, whether it's to COVID or folding at home research. But basically the commitment from our side is

all the profits from the shirts are going to fund efforts around COVID-19 research and relief in Canada. And this is pretty cool. Each dollar raised will be matched towards folding at home directly by Intel up to a maximum of $40,000 US. That's awesome. Thank you, Intel.

Yeah, so guys, this item is sold as a pre-order. All the shirts will be printed and shipped within three weeks. Orders including this shirt, by the way, if you order other stuff with it, will not be shipped until the shirt is printed so that we don't get billed for shipping twice. But yeah, this is just a cool way to rep folding at home, rep the LTT folding team. Oh yeah, I didn't show you guys this, but the back. Which side is it on? Must yeah this side there it is somewhere somewhere

yeah there it is i didn't see anything yeah there's a qr there's a qr code on the back um cool so if you scan it it will actually take you to extreme overclocking to the uh linus tech tips team stats page that That's pretty cool. Just like, you know, little nerdy things, right? Yeah, no, I like that. That's cool. I just actually want to have a look at our stats. Guys, if you haven't joined the Linus Tech Tips folding team yet,

come on, guys, get on this because we are currently absolutely crushing it. So in the last, our 24 hour average is 4 billion points, which is over one and a half billion more than the default non-configured team. Let's see. And then after that, it falls off pretty sharply with everyone else under a billion. So yeah, we're kind of, we're kind of crushing it. So so keep it up guys we've got over 50,000 active folders right now and we're looking to we're looking to move up the ranks here it'd be nice to move up the ranks so let's let's do it oh yes yes very funny okay yes we do also have another

merch item that is that is very hot very fresh you know very very funny very funny joke uh hashtag lie nuss that's amazing nick insisted that we do just like a simple black shirt with white text you know like a spread the word type of thing if you guys this will be a limited this will be a limited run shirt we're never going to bring this back again for sure um it's like one of those haha very funny joke i remember that i got the shirt um but this is not the kind of thing that we're going to have around forever although if if oh it pains me to say this if ltx goes ahead this year i suspect that showing up in one of those would be pretty much the cool kids move i was literally thinking like the probably one of the better ways to troll you would be wearing one of those and like getting a picture or something

yes very funny yes getting you to sign it as a as a signature of authenticity yeah hashtag lie nice uh there's other good store news um The stealth hoodies that we paid $12 shipped per unit, those are in stock now. And we have not altered the pricing, so we're just absorbing that $12. So guys, get it. Stealth hoodie, the classic, $59.99 USD. All right, that's it for all that stuff.

And actually, I don't know if I have uh actually i don't know if i have anything uh i don't know if i have anything else in here that's like worth talking about youtube is reportedly working on shorts to compete with tiktok i mean if it's anywhere near as bad as their stories feature then i doubt it'll compete that much but the stories gets a lot of views i can tell you a lot of people look at them they just need to they just need to improve the app a little bit because it's real it's real clunky yeah um i think one of youtube's issues is going to be notifications and delivery just like it is with stories to a certain degree um with everything that they've tried to do other than just kind of like vod it feel it has the like this site wasn't made for this yeah feel um and like where do you put it i have what category does it even go under um

how do you make people care when someone shows up to the home page how do you decide like oh yeah this person definitely wanted to see a a short instead of a proper normal youtube video they'd almost need like like i wonder if to a certain at a certain point if like a separate app would almost make more sense for these types of things i don't think so i think they have to find a way to bring it all under the youtube umbrella for better or for worse because here's the thing yeah but, but they have YouTube Music. They do, but that's not, that's just music.

That's just them trying to, like, use the licensing for music that they already have for YouTube to make a, you know, have an easier approach to, like, music streaming, I think. As far as I can tell, I don't know why Google Play Music

is going away and YouTube Music is replacing it, because as a branding thing. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Also, Google Play Music is like nice and easy to use and YouTube Music is not. So yeah, there's that good old, good old Google just doing Google things. I mean, here's the thing too, is you and I might be looking at this TikTok clone or stories and not really able to understand it

because we aren't the target audience. But I can tell you that when I'm on top of my YouTube stories, my subscription rate for the channel goes up. Stories are being fed to people who are otherwise not engaged with the content. It's a totally different audience member in a lot of cases. And they can be like a gateway drug to get people into the full-fledged techie content

that we upload, like our longer form stuff. So there does appear to be a value to it. It's just something that I don't really understand that well because I'm not personally a member of that audience. Yeah, makes sense. I think that's pretty much it for the show this week that's kind of a couple super chats maybe uh okay logan game says hey you all righty then robert mail says put this uh five dollar super chat a couple minutes after we go live tgi friday did you hear about zoom

security being poor as all heck yeah yeah we did that was uh that was one of our top stories in tech linked uh on Wednesday when I filmed it shot that in my front yard because I have a new neighbor um who just like is always blasting music in their backyard so my backyard just always has music coming over the fence and it's like it's not like classical music you know it's like annoying music and sometimes the lyrics are explicit and it's like really oh like get a clue like just you're in a family neighborhood maybe calm down a little bit yeah like just just get a clue it's just not necessary and like it's not if they were just listening to it like just loud enough for them to hear that would be fine but i'm not that close and it's loud like if i open my bedroom window i can listen to

their music like it's really annoying because i love twitch chat you're talking about this like loud music explicit lyrics and stuff and somebody in chat just in all caps venga boys venga boys yeah no i don't think so um oh man twitch chat is just like so so brutal and like dumb sometimes it's like this shadow's trying to throw you a bone but he's kind of right i'm just like there's there's one person i'm not even gonna name them they're like aka black rap that is nothing but vulgarity let me tell you i've heard some white rap that is nothing but vulgarity and i've i've heard some some other colors of rap that are pretty colorful too i've heard not rap that's quite colorful that's pretty vulgar yeah let's let's not pretend that that's what this is about there's plenty of rock

music that like is directly about committing heinous crimes but in an upbeat tone so people don't realize oh yeah like that oh man there there are there's some music that i like listened to as a kid and i'm like yeah no wonder my parents didn't want me to listen to this i didn't understand what it was about oh yeah um yeah. MetalGappy says, hey, how are you enjoying the DJI FPV stuff? Actually, Colin's been playing around with it. Hit him up on Twitter. I think you can find his Twitter handle in the credits of any video that he helped do.

So we've got one coming up. The sub $100 3D printer. His Twitter should be in there. DragonboyStudio says, my first WAN show requires that I donate, or my first live WAN show. All right, thank you. Thank you very much.

Thanks, Tekken. That is the standard way of things. This is the way. First WAN show, donate. Sherwin says, what the hell is on your chin? What? Oh, it's a pop filter. I think he means beard, though. I think he means the beard. Pretty sure it's uh oh it's a pop filter i think he needs beard though i think he needs

the beard oh pretty sure that's not just his chin by the way but you know all right um thanks brendan thanks arthur cabs uh what else we got here all right uh justin says are you guys gonna send lu Luke a decent camera and mic for future WAN shows? No, he has a camera. He just needs to find the cable for it. You've lost a lot of cables lately. You lost all your display port cables.

Did you find those? All my what, sorry? Your display port cables that you ordered to the office. No. They're just gone? I've looked a number of times. But yeah, I can't find them. i heard i think weren't cable no yeah i couldn't really find the cable bins last time i was in there and all the

inventory guys were gone so i just left okay maybe they can i haven't been in there for a while okay here t asks a good question this is a question. Is it worth getting a valve index as a monitor replacement? I've been wanting to do this for ages. That's a good answer. It's a good answer to a good question. We are still a couple of resolution bumps away from that. And then a couple of comfort, uh, breakthroughs away from that. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's like the the the dream the pipe dream at the time and dream now that that is uh when you were looking at like dk1 we're insanely closer to it now than we were yeah but we're still probably almost just as far away we're still a long way away yeah um jeff jones says i know you touched on it last week but is it wrong for youtube premium members to fast forward through

your sponsor spots i mean nothing i don't know it's all up to you what's wrong or right i can tell you that we make more on you being a youtube premium member than pretty much any other way that you can contribute other than uh subscribing to floatplane.com yeah and lttstore.com if you buy a shirt every month that would be more than if you're youtube premium member but youtube premium is definitely better than ad support maximum floatplane subscription shirt every month yeah twitch subscriber forum contributor what a shill we're getting up there i'm not going to correct you though it's not wrong you're not wrong that'd be great we can't really ask that of you guys though no that's a lot of shirts all right chris says uh have a good weekend boys i'm going out for a rip all right sounds good just maintain your social distancing all right

yeah all right you're the only one allowed in the in the in the ripping device yeah that's right you got to be six feet apart, that's it for me. What's new with you? Hey, you wanted to talk about your streaming setup for the professors last week. And people informed me that I was very rude and cut you off. I actually didn't mean to.

I was just, I was kind of tuned out because I was trying to fix something to do with the stream. So I wasn't really listening. And it seemed like you were like starting, apparently it seemed like you were trying to start a conversation about it. And I just like moved on. So why don't you tell it seemed like you were like starting apparently it seemed like you were trying to start a conversation about it and I just like moved on so why don't you tell me about what you were doing I did uh oh so were you just done like was that it I was not done

but someone from the IT team of that school showed up in the Twitch chat and probably sent roughly, I'm just going to throw a guess at like a hundred messages, uh, that very much felt like a SWAT team trying to knock on my door, trying to get attention. This is, this is so-and-so from, from this thing. I work in this department. You need to talk to me. I need to communicate with you now. I can prove identity. We need to solve this. And that was like constantly being posted in the twitch chat and then when you raided my girlfriend's stream afterwards he went to there and kept posting it so i eventually had to be like hey man you should probably deal with this internally and not through twitch chat and not talk to me because i'm just trying to help them uh so yeah there's been some some

developments there it i i'm not going to go way too far into it because i probably shouldn't but it blows my mind the lack of rising to the occasion that has happened from certain, uh, departments at certain companies or organizations at this time. Okay. That got real awkward, real fast. All right. Speaking of awkward, I have a poll for our viewers,

uh, that I will be posting. I'm going to hit float plane first. So we'll get their results first. Guys, go ahead and submit your votes. Submit your votes in the poll. Okay. I'm going to get these polls in there.

They're like, this poll is going to be fire. If you know what I'm saying, you know? Know what I'm saying? Fire poll. Okay. I got to know. I just got to know. Okay. I'm going to vote for you. Here we go i'm voting for you i'm voting for you okay all right let's have let's have a look at let's have a look at the results here actually

do you want to pull up that you want to pull up the results sure we'll screen share screen share your side i don't have screen share set sharing setup oh my goodness people are very passionate about this the votes are pouring in they're pouring in my friends we've only got like 10 000 people watching i don't think i've ever seen this high engagement with a poll all right luke's up at 39 with i hate it when mommy and daddy make me choose at 31 followed by linus oh i i said said I was going to vote for you, and I did. But then after I said that, I read the I Hate It When Mommy and Daddy Make Me Choose, and that's what I would have voted for

if I read that before I said I was going to vote for you. Wow, we've got over 2,000 votes. Okay, so it's official. I got to get rid of this thing because you rock it. You rock it better. You rock it better. Maybe development is not done yet. Maybe we this thing because you rock it. You rock it better. You rock it better. Maybe development is not done yet.

Maybe you need to keep working on it. You have the time now. Oh, man. Yeah, I suppose. Although I have been appearing on camera throughout the whole thing. So it's not like I just get to transform from like scrub-tastic to having one. I was going to leave that part out. And the best part is that the videos are going up completely out of order so it's just gonna make no sense for like weeks how's um how has

production been through this whole thing oh it's been it's been frustrating and tiring like i i have to do most of my own setup yvonne's had to like film with me she did a shockingly good job of the vlog where we set up 100 bluetooth speakers in our house though like i was watching it back i was like yeah sure i'd hire her it's all right yeah yeah yeah i'd hang around with that chick you know what i mean no anyway um yeah no it's been we only got five done this week um when we were definitely aiming for you know one per release day so six um i do have something that i like could film tonight or on the weekend but i'm like i'm tired because it's just it's taking a toll on me doing all the setup all the tear down um all the hosting like the team is doing their best they're they're

supporting me as best they can remotely but it's tough right i just don't and sometimes i just don't have all the materials i need like i i needed a secondary camera for the stream earlier today and i realized that the black magic cinema camera that i have um is sdi only and i don't have an sdi capture card and then i needed a longer hdmi cable i had to go tear that out of literally embedded in one of my walls uh in order to get the camera where i needed it just like one thing after another compared to the studio which just has everything there like within reach you know yeah so that's been frustrating but i also think that it's the most fun i've had in a long time because it's kind of like it's kind of raw yeah yeah yeah yeah i can totally see that out of necessity like every video that i work on has to be like just kind of doing something

crazy at home so it's been really enjoyable that way, if nothing else. Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, as horrible as all this stuff is, and it is horrible, the,

the opportunities to rise to occasions are very fulfilling when you can do them. Um, and there's, so there, if you're in a position where that's a possibility it's kind of it's nice i like the i'm enjoying the challenge yeah exactly and and the audience is gonna understand recording this like it's it's pretty obvious why what's happening is happening so you

don't get the like what the heck reaction from the audience you're probably getting more of an appreciation reaction from the audience people are pretty forgiving of the the lapses in quality so far yeah yeah so like it it's kind of it's uh it's not that bad um hey you know what i think we talked about this on a previous stream but i don't think we ever actually showed it um so the the halo remastered whatever thing master chief collection i have that file here i have that file okay guys check check this out okay so you're gonna you're gonna see it on the stream so it's gonna be a little bit delayed i can't believe i haven't been recording this because this was the most fun that i had playing a video game in probably years. Grenade, for sure.

Me too. Rockets can be too much. So Luke and I decided to just kind of bro out one evening. I have no idea how to control this media. Okay. Once it's in OBS, I guess I might just have to grab a screen region. You could play it in a media player and just capture that i'm gonna do that okay let's do that so we decided to tackle the silent i can't believe i have this the level where you storm the

beach silent cartographer you have to get down to the silent cartographer in halo one uh we weren't streaming or anything i wish we were streaming because that was hilarious it was actually amazing display capture that would have been the best stream i've had in in years if not ever and i didn't stream it it would have been my best stream ever for sure all right so here we go here we go let's see if I can find a couple of these classic moments. So you can't see this very easily, eh? Okay, so hold on a second. So here's where we're trying to get through this door.

Out of rockets, but I have four plasma grenades. Oh man, I gotta mute that, I gotta mute that. So basically what we're trying to do is we're trying to get the Warthog all the way down to the map room so you can see we actually i think this one we blasted across the chasm with a grenade um luke are you looking at this one yet is this the one that we hit with the rocket launcher with the grenade oh yeah so we've got two warthogs here now because our brilliant idea for how to get the first one through was to ram it from behind so what we're trying to do right now

is write this one without knocking it down into the chasm here because if we do it dies meanwhile that one at the front is kind of glitched in the door we like for context i just kind of started doing this pretty early on. And we kept on saying, like, it's not going to work. We're not going to be able to get it past this next point. And then we just kept being able to do it. And we ended up accomplishing the whole freaking level and then back out again, which was kind of epic. Hold on.

Where's the part where we managed to get that one through the door? This took forever. Like, it took forever to get through this door really that section in particular took an extremely long time i don't even remember how it went through ultimately i think i got on the other side we we killed the the covenant on the other side and i got on the other side and i think we just shot under it with a rocket and it popped the front end up enough that it was able to get through the door i think that's what happened was that while i was driving it i think so i think this might be this might be the moment are you sure it was a rocket you can see my marker i'm not sure it was a rocket might have been a grenade as well so it was a combination of ramming them through using grenades and using the rocket launcher i think you're holding a rocket launcher here i think this might be it

let's see oh man it's like completely glitched out this is like the dumbest segment of wansho i think we've ever done there it is there it is look this. What even is that? What even is that? So ridiculous. So cool. So ridiculous. Anyway, the best moment. The best moment is definitely the drive-through order of Silent Cartographer. Did we really drive it all the way out? Yes. I don't we did did we really we did we drove it out or we drove a different one out i don't remember because we have three yeah we had three in there that was why we

were up exploring on the surface at some point okay is this looking for is this where we're fighting our way out yeah yeah here it is here it is all right so there we are map room give it a try guys give it a try it was the most fun that i had gaming for a couple of hours in basically ages total blast i don't know how we got it through this one like that is very clearly too small it's trying so hard it's so dumb didn't yeah there you go there it is so we've got the warthog in the cut scene because i think i spend the next little bit trying to uh pull it up like the drive-through yeah and then luke gets in the in the hog i think and

then i try to activate it and then jump into it at the same time because i end up like partially in it yeah something like that here you know the cut scene's about to go our goal was to have a warthog in every cut scene and we we sort of did it yeah cool one of them we triggered the cut scene a little bit too early the warthog was still there it just wasn't exactly where we wanted it to be we were at the end we were trying to get uh the warthog into the pelican yeah that was that was that was too hard we couldn't get the timing right we were like trying to drive it towards it and then uh time it so that a grenade would go off lifting up the front end enough to drive it in um we also tried just like shooting it with a rocket launcher just to kind of blast it in there and we just we couldn't couldn't get it to go if we had more supplies

it might have been easier but we had like i think it was one rocket and like two or three grenades. Maybe at one point in time, I think we only had one grenade because it kept auto saving as we were using more and more consumables. Yeah. And it just got extremely tedious. Um, so,

so we stopped having fun, which is basically, you know, the point where it's kind of the point, any game, you kind of stop playing it. Yeah. So I think you do the cinematic pretty soon here.

Yeah. I think we were discussing, like, how we wanted to do it for a while. Yeah. Oh, hold on. There it is. Okay. Press E to activate the silent cartographer. Here we go.

Here we go. So, yeah, I think... Do I tell you to get out and get in the gun? Oh, yeah. There we go. There we go. So I activated it and then got in. So you're like stuck in the war.

Clipped in it. Okay. Hello. Yes. I'll, I'll have a big Mac and fries, please. The camera's just like in the car. Yeah. So I love stuff like that.

So dumb. All right. Um, great, great show show today thank you very much thanks guys for tuning in we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye now for the next one right yeah yeah yeah one more one more all right we really have to do another one all right okay bye bye