The WAN Show - Should We Move To America? - WAN Show April 28, 2023

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

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What is up everyone and welcome to the WED show! We've got a lot of great topics for you today starting with the passing of controversial Bill C-11 here in Canada. Or should I call it Kanakistan? I mean I've heard people call it worse, especially people who are not in Canada and don't really understand what being in Canada is all about. But that doesn't mean that C11 isn't a cause for concern. We're going to be talking about that. Also a cause for concern, AMD's Ryzen X3D CPUs have been dying,

though they've apparently rolled out a fix now. So we're going to get you guys the update on what's going on with that. What else we got? I'm looking for stuff. You don't want to talk about dead chromebooks oh sure what you don't want to talk about my impending cosmetic procedure cheap laptops die and are annoying to repair i mean yeah more at 11 impending cosmetic procedure what well let's just leave into, obviously, the big topic of the week. Should we just abandon our Canadian roots, make the long trek for 36 minutes to the southern border

and join one of our former colleagues down in down in americaville former colleagues yeah yeah yeah yeah john moved down there oh i thought you're talking about john oh yeah well he's former yeah no he still works here yeah i mean we'll not hear here but here here Yeah, the greater here. Let's talk about why this is even a topic of conversation. Bill C-11 has been passed into Canadian law as the Online Streaming Act after two and a half years of debate. Debate that I actually did get involved in at one point back when it was known as C-10, making my way all the way to the assistant deputy minister. No, I think it was the deputy minister of whoever was actually working on this. I can't remember.

It's actually been quite a while. I remember being on the set of one of our early car videos. It might have been the Model Y video or something like that. And I had this call on the racetrack with this deputy minister or whatever, and it became very clear to me at that time that, well, okay, this won't be a surprise to anyone, but it became very clear to me that the whole thing was political, had nothing to do with actually protecting creators, however they were trying to sell it. And at the end of the day, it was about figuring out a way to extract money from online streaming

platforms, and then, as far as I could tell, waste it. I have a lot of thoughts based on my experience, both with Canadian production services tax credits, as well as just generally interfacing with the government of Canada. And as far as I can tell, most of the funding exists only for entities that are so large and well-established that they can afford both the time and money to cut through the bureaucracy and therefore don't need it. It's a lot of work the companies that i know that capture it very effectively have dedicated employees that are

there to capture it yeah which is like oh man not the not the point yeah anywho let's go back to the talking points shall we originally known as bill c-10 the act allows the canadian government to impose regulations on streaming platforms like netflix and Spotify, as well as social platforms like YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok, through the Canadian Radio, Television, and Telecommunications Commission, or the CRTC. brings online platforms under the same kind of rules that have applied to traditional broadcasters for decades, requiring them to promote Canadian content and contribute financially to Canadian content production. But critics, including many Canadian content creators like Rene Ritchie, Some Ordinary Gamers, CallMeChris, and J.G. McCullough, are worried that the law could affect content that's made by influencers slash content creators, like independent creators, since the act will likely force platforms to change their recommendation algorithms to serve Canadian users more CanCon or Canadian content.

And this is a very real concern, not just because of the moves the Canadian government is making, but because of what I fear an entity like Google might do to retaliate. So let's, and you know what? This is a tough one for me to approach because these are all private conversations. Yeah. But, and no one said anything to me directly

because that would have been insane, but I will tell you, from conversations I have participated in, whether directly or observationally, that Google's not happy about any of this, and that if they are forced to alter the way that they serve content to Canadian viewers, to alter the way that they serve content to Canadian viewers, they might, you know, you never know, something might happen to the way that content from Canadian creators gets served outside of Canada. Yeah, like it sounds all neat for Canadian creators when you hear what Canada wants. But when you think about how anybody's going to react to it, your algorithmic priority outside of Canada is going to be damaged because of your algorithmic priority inside of Canada.

Potentially, potentially. I'd say probably. I have been in none of these conversations. So I would say probably, but I have no idea. Well, see, the thing is, even if Google decided, you know what? Forget it. What's the point of being petty and spiteful here uh if if ltd's viewership is six percent within canada why would we want this to have any impact on their ability to for their content to propagate outside of canada why are we depriving other users of this content that's I mean that's ridiculous but hold on a second if the Canadian government passes this law

which they now have and decides to actually do something with it which at this point is still very unclear actually well they probably won't be the last yeah I mean if I'm Turkey or japan or anywhere really um anywhere that's more of our okay i shouldn't have said japan then but anywhere that's more of a cultural importer rather than exporter um and i'm anywhere that i want to uh you know protect my my local production industry well i'm looking at this going oh okay so you actually can just tell big tech no you may not have a closed black box algorithm that just kind of recommends whatever and doesn't promote you know local or at least within arbitrary geographical boundary x content and so ultimately

the impact could end up coming for us not because because of Canada's first move on this, but because of the other dominoes that may ultimately fall over the next two or five or 10 or 25 years or whatever that time frame ends up looking like. Let's do continue here, though. The government has said, the Canadian government, to be clear, has said that the act is not meant, this is italicized, thank you, Land Show writer, to affect user-generated content. So it theoretically shouldn't affect someone like CallMeChris, but then, in spite of them saying that, they rejected multiple amendments that would have specified that in the law. So as it is now, it's pretty much just left to the CRTC to decide how to enforce this. And if they do ultimately go that route with it, well, that's within their power.

So the law was designed to give the CRTC as broad powers as they were able to get pushed through over the last two and a half years and as a an independent content creator that more and more at least according to many of you is basically a you know corporate media machine um i have no idea where i fall in this how how does linus media group incorporated figure into this am i an independent content creator or am i a media corporation both i think both is good yeah i don't know right okay so let's um let's let's keep moving on one uncontroversial effect of the law could be the widening though of the definition of what legally constitutes canadian content a heritage minister pablo rodriguez is reportedly likely to ask the crtc to include content such as pixar's turning red which is an american movie right produced by an american company but written by a Canadian, set in Toronto, and produced by a partially Canadian crew,

and also HBO's The Handmaid's Tale, which is an American show set partially in Canada and based on books by a... Luke, your phone. And based on books by a Canadian author with a partially Canadian crew. Neither of those would qualify under the current CanCon rules.

What's really stupid about the current CanCon rules is how difficult it is to prove it. Like, look at... This is ridiculous. What is a Canadian certification? Minimum of 75% of program expenses, blah, blah, blah. Okay, what is the points system? Okay, so the director gives you two points. DP gives you one point.

I mean, or two points, depending on what kind you're talking about. But the director of photography gives you one point I mean or two points Depending on what kind you're talking about But the director of photography gives you one point There's some special rules The point is Just like the single point The government hasn't been super clear About how this is going to work

Because they aren't the ones making the actual rules That's the job of the CRTC Who are going to take consultation for 30 days, at least, before publishing a draft. So, our discussion questions are as follows. Oh, this is fun. How will the government force platforms to finance Canadian content?

I mean, that's a really interesting one because so far, if Google simply says, well, I'm not going to pay, I don't think that the Canadian government has shown any inclination to simply block Google services within the borders. That would be so incredibly destructive. Yeah, that would be pretty bad and pretty stupid. However, again, this is from my conversations that I've witnessed slash been a part of. It is my understanding that Google intends to comply with whatever law ultimately ends up happening. So C11, they intend to comply with C11. So I guess, you know, that's not a probable outcome. So then what will that look like? Is it potentially a good thing that we could get more?

Because, okay, if they have to alter the algorithm, they have to somehow demonstrate that they're altering the algorithm. They have to be more transparent about how it works. Does that have a potential small upside here for everyone? And the thing that I don't really understand is like, if I go to youtube i wonder if this is going to happen here because it's logged into a different account uh it did not happen here and i don't know if this is because i click on this content sometimes or what but when

i go on my personal youtube uh it's never at the top but if i scroll down a little bit there's like a what's going on in canada section. Like, I don't know. I know that that was one of the solutions that Google had proposed was like a non-algorithmic solution where they occupy a certain amount of screen space. Like that happens to my personal account for sure. It is almost always like government news,

like Trudeau's face is all over it like over half the content i swear um i don't i don't get like random canadian canadian canadian less canadian but okay guy i mean this is probably just because i'm signed in as me so it's just all our accounts because I don't really watch a lot of YouTube Alright, well well I'm gonna try an incognito tab then Not that that's necessarily gonna make much difference, but yeah I've got someone to float plane chat saying they get the same thing in the UK, so this is definitely a thing Yeah, it might not be all users might only be users that interact with it when shown uh like

i don't i don't exactly know how it works but this is a system that they already have to a certain degree interesting yeah no i don't i don't see anything here maybe it's just because i'm not signed in at all yeah if you're not if you're not like this this one is uh signed into like the way and show email thing that you set up and i i don't have it at all here i just have it on and i don't know that i've seen it on my work account i just know that i've seen on my personal account so i'm not sure yeah there's a few other people saying that they get the same thing uh someone's saying that they get the same thing in the u.s even so this is this is definitely a thing i don't know that everyone gets it uh yeah someone's same in chicago same as the u.s another person saying they've never seen it in the u.s i don't know that everyone gets it. Yeah, someone's saying in Chicago, saying this is the US. Another person's saying they've never seen it in the US.

I don't know who all has access to it. But this is definitely something that they've experimented with. And that's enough, in my opinion. Like, it would be cool if they mixed in content creators from that area instead of just, like, government news. Yeah. Because that's, like, right now it's just, like, Trudeau seven times. And then you can scroll to the right to see if there's more. But it would be cool if it was, like, yeah, maybe one or two then you can scroll to the right to see if there's more.

But it would be cool if it was like, yeah, maybe one or two, like what's happening in my country. I'm not against that. But then some other content creators spattered in would be kind of neat. Yeah, I think a local tab would be a positive thing for the platform. Honestly, the fact that local news is basically dead at this point between the decline of newspapers and the consolidation of local TV stations. It makes it kind of hard to figure out what the heck's going on around you sometimes. Yeah, that's a bad thing.

I mean, so what? I just rely entirely on r slash Vancouver. Yeah, like that sucks. Is that, I'm not going to join a Facebook group. That is, that is an option. It is genuinely an option. Like Yvonne's in like the, you know. The neighborhood group or whatever, yeah. the neighborhood Facebook group and just like I

Okay on the one hand. I'm saying look more local content definitely good thing on the other hand I don't need to know that there's a raccoon in your yard It's like the level of granularity. Yeah, I just I wish there was a bit of vetting Before it hits my eyeballs. Yeah. Yeah does anyone else possibly be interested in this no okay maybe not then uh yeah so like having options like that is cool but changing the general algorithm like no i don't want that what if i am specifically into uh scientific japanese culture sure yeah something i don't need videos on japanese culture only from like canadian creators scientific stuff. Japanese culture. Sure. Yeah. Something. I don't need videos on Japanese culture

only from like Canadian creators. Yeah, probably not. Why would I care if that's what I was coming here for? So I guess you have already really given me your thoughts then on our second discussion question, which is how do you feel about CanCon in general? Do you think Canada should attempt to protect its culture from the evil Americans?

And I put that in finger quotes because in Canada, there is a pretty big perception that culturally, we're pretty much just like America's hat. Yeah, we don't really have our own. Yeah, we have a lot of cultural imports and very few cultural exports. It's mostly things that people meme on. It's like, oh, maple syrup and hockey.

Hey, those are pretty good. Look, maple syrup. The ones we got are pretty solid. Curling, all right? It's not like we're complaining about the things that are uniquely Canadian. But we are largely a culture importer, for sure. A lot of our actors, actresses, musicians, stuff like that end up going down to the States and being perceived as American creators. And yeah, I would like, like you said, a local tab or below my main boxes, a bar that has local content that'd be cool but

that's it i don't want any more than that and like uh you know if you want to talk about you know influences during your formative years i guarantee you a lot more young kids in canada watched friends than kim's convenience right like it's kim's convenience is great though sure but like i found it wasn't hard for me to find i didn't go looking for i'm sure it wasn't influenced by this because this didn't exist yet i think a big problem for me too is what exactly constitutes canadian content because even if we ignore the heavy cultural imports um like you alluded to already canada's such a mixing pot at least in the urban centers, which is the vast majority of the population here, that Canadian content could be basically anything because it's defined by your citizenship. So if you have a Canadian citizenship, then, OK, it's Canadian content now.

But it's like, well, what do you what even is that? I don't know. I don't know. It's a funny thing the whole the whole sort of cultural pride thing is something that i observe in foreigners a lot um but not something that i can really relate to um you know okay on the subject of our of our friend john who still works for us yes um but he's based down in in one of the carolinas i i know which one i'm just not saying which one i have no idea how don't need to narrow it down more than that yeah. Don't need to narrow it down more than that. Yeah, I don't need to narrow it down more than that. Over there.

I think he's pretty public about where he lives, but I don't feel like checking right now. It's fine. Anyway, the point is he's over on the east, in the east in the US. And for him, it's often a source of great pride that a particular hot sauce or whatever was... Sports teams.

Yeah, sports teams. I mean, sports teams, I want to sort of get to that later because sports teams, I think, are sort of universal, at least in North America. I think people form relationships with regional sports teams. But for me, the big one was monuments or people that came from the same school. He would feel a sense of personal pride or a sense

of personal shame when people from his from his post-secondary institution went on to do great things or very terrible things right and that's something that i don't know maybe it's because i don't really know anything about my own heritage that i've just never been able to relate to i don't i don't get it. Yeah, we did a really intensely bad job of this before this bill, and this bill is not going to help. Like, if you were trying to foster Canadian heritage, this is not the way to do it.

And, I mean, honestly, I don't think anyone thinks it will. Not really. As far as I could tell, you know, the justifications that were provided to me, I could tell, you know, the justifications that were provided to me, and they were extremely, you know, well articulated. But if you got even past the very, very, very skimming top skin of the surface, didn't make any sense. It's like, well, you know, how are we going to make sure that Canadian stories get told? And I'm sitting here going, well, I don't know. You could tell Canadians to pick up a cell phone and tell their story.

And if anyone wants to hear it, if it's an interesting story, then you know what's great about the internet, the way that it is right now without you mucking around with it, is that they can tell that story and anyone, be they Canadianadian or american or letter kenny and shorzy are both intensely canadian by the way i know i know i know you guys haven't seceded yet lone star um the uh letter kenny and shorzy are both intensely canadian pieces of content.

Yeah. Amazingly good. The language and stuff gets pretty intense. I could be talking to kids. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that you watch it. If you're an adult, though, it's fantastic content. And it's popular outside of Canada. And it really displays a lot of intensely Canadian culture.

So it's great. It's made made very well and it went very far and it's still continuing to go very far with Shorzy um it's possible we do it things happen yeah and I mean I guess for me like you know part of my part of my cynicism comes from how difficult it was to actually get funding as a small-time creator so when the justification given to me is like well How do we fund uniquely Canadian stories like one of the examples given to me? I just want to interject because yeah the way that you said it made it sound like it's no longer difficult Oh, yeah, it's still very difficult. Yeah, aren't we still waiting for stuff from like years ago 2019 or something like that? Yeah, like pandemic was over a while ago yeah like that that

type of funding timeline i mean sorry sorry excuse me pandemic was over a while ago yeah that that cultural influence from the south has taken over we're already moving we're out the door we'll be there in a minute, America. But those funding timelines don't work if you're not 100% funding yourself already. So like, what a failure. One of the examples that was given to me of, you know, the kind of story that could be told. Because I challenged that, right? I went, well, what story? What story is not told right now? Oh, well, you know, what about the story of an Anglophone?

That means an English speaker. An Anglophone living in an all French community. What about it? So tell that story. And then when nobody fucking cares, then we can all move on with our day. And then if someone does. If you have some way of making it funny or very well written or something, which is possible. Then you'll find success. It'll do well.

And maybe this is just like, what's it called? Survivorship bias or something like that. Survivorship bias. Here we go. Here we go. Survivorship bias is a type of sample selection bias that occurs when an individual mistakes a visible successful subgroup as the entire group so sure i i definitely experienced survivorship bias because i did make it through the gauntlet of of breaking out on social media right and so i'm looking at it going well if you keep pounding your fists at

that wall long enough eventually you'll you could break it down uh and but maybe that's not true and maybe that's not fair and maybe that story does need to be told but then my question you know so my rebuttal to that is is it really being told if you create the content, so you throw money at this thing, and then 46 people watch it? Yeah, because it'll show up in people's algorithms, but how these platforms work, you don't have to watch that thing. You would have to click on it to watch it, so it's just not going to get clicked on. So they're treating this like TV, where the audience is captive to a degree but that's not the case. You still don't have to click on things and it comes down to that age-old philosophical debate. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound, right?

I would make the argument that a story told in an empty room in the dark has not been told. It's just been conceived of, you know know like it's not is it a story if it's not passed along to anybody the empty room in the dark thing doesn't really work but i do agree with the you can definitely tell stories i was just trying to i was trying to paint a lonely picture there's no microphone it's not a sleepover It's dark there's no lights even okay because the energy could be converted to matter it's fully empty Yeah, I don't know

I don't see necessarily a lot of or any value to that because like we know how brutal it is to try to get clicked on. Yeah, I know. So like. So I'm not against funding Canadian content. Yeah. I just don't want it funded because it's Canadian content. I want it funded because it's good. Like it's the same way.

I see a lot of people challenge me because, generally speaking, I am pro-societal good. I don't mind paying my taxes, right? And people will challenge me on that and go, well, yeah, but what about government waste? What about it? Yeah, it f***ing sucks. Not into it, even a little. I spend my life trying to make things efficient around me and the fact that an entire sort of subclass of of of citizens exists to utilize my money in a way that's not efficient is it's bulls**t right obviously but the flip side of that is that i also do run a company now that is

small or medium depending on how you measure it and i understand that when you scale past a certain point bureaucracy is unavoidable waste is just a fact of life and so i don't know i'm i'm split because i do need roads to drive on. I do need hospitals to visit. I do need an education system for my kids to participate in, right? Like there are actual greater good benefits that taxes do allow for. But yeah, that doesn't mean that I'm not mad when it gets wasted. And this is one of those cases where I look at it and I go all right well I mean you like had this money and as far as I can tell a lot of it gets wasted either on like as a as a subsidy for foreign companies you know like it doesn't it doesn't make sense to me how much animation takes place in

Canada for example and how few Canadian media companies there are. Yeah. What? Why? Why are they all just working for American companies? So it seems to me that there are systemic problems that need to be solved before you just go grab more cash from online streaming platforms and then sort of vaguely have some idea of how you're going to use it to something Canadian story something.

I don't know, man. Frustrated. Yes. Yeah. Frustrated. Frustrated enough to actually, you know, pick up and leave. Honestly, no. Like it's so incredibly difficult at this point. So there's that. And, you, how does the old biblical thing go? Worry not about the splinter in your neighbor's eye until you've removed the 2x4 from your own or something like that. Like if as an American you are outraged by how ridiculous this C11 thing looks, you know, it's not perfect anywhere.

There's always stuff going on. Is what I'm kind of trying to say. And overall, the perception that a lot of consumers of American, particularly, American media seem to have of Canada is just simply not correct. Not even close. Like there's, I often see comments about, you know, what life must be like in the Canadian, you know, societal hellhole.

And it's a particular... I think this is true about like basically everywhere though. No, not really. I don't know. I don't see it from a lot of Europeans. And it's not that they I think this is true about basically everywhere, though. No, not really. I don't know. I don't see it from a lot of Europeans. And it's not that they're not talking to me. Like, I read... Oh, I see.

Okay, no. What I meant is that if you watch media or news from a certain country, that when you show up, it's different than what you might have expected. No, it's just that there are there are some types of american media and there's some consumers of american media certain types of american media that seem to be under the impression that canada is some kind of dystopian hellscape um it's pretty chill and it's there's things i could complain about for days but absolutely it's pretty chill overall yeah um a lot of questions here i mean we've got endangered wolf asking would you consider creating an american branch of lmg even if lmg remains

based in canada why would i do that now i get to deal with the broken ass american tax system on top of the broken ass canadian tax system Super fun. Incredibly fun. How about no? Sorry, sorry. In Canada, we don't have guns. So I need... How about no? By the way, we do have guns. We have a lot of guns. I don't personally, actually.

But Colton does. Which is why we've never actually fired him There was there was Quite a few years ago There was a point in time where the like firearms per capita in Canada was like very very high, but it was a lot of Yeah, I'm not even good to it, but yeah floatplane chat finger knife From within what is it six feet eight feet or something like that nice more lethal than a gun whatever that the

Conventional wisdom is why don't we roll into our next topic AMD is rolling out a fix for burnt ryzen x3d cpus uh let's go ahead and um pop this up here this is originally covered by extreme tech i think well maybe not originally but they're one of the sources we've got oh and on tech has covered this as well all right so here you go this is a good look at the picture here yikes that's uh that's a spicy cpu socket right here amd released an official statement thanks gavin we have root caused the issue and have already distributed a new agisa that puts measures in place on certain power rails on am5 motherboards to prevent the cpu from beyond its specification limits, including a cap on SoC voltage at 1.3 volts. This doesn't affect their ability to overclock memory using ExpoRx MP kits

or boost performance using PBO technology. They are expecting this fix to roll out through all of their board partners, and blah, blah, blah. Apparently, ASUS and MSI had already implemented their own fixes prior to AMD and had suggested that excessive voltages in Expo memory profiles had allowed the SoC voltage to reach unsafe levels. They did not clarify if there were any other issues that they found or whether non-X3D processors were also at risk,

but I would be kind of surprised if they were. They've been out there for quite a lot longer at this point and they draw quite a lot more power so if you're yeah if you're running at the same voltages or higher in some cases and you're drawing more current i really don't see um how we wouldn't have noticed this at some point. Steve from Gamers Nexus has apparently acquired Speed Rookie. That's the username of the owner of that CPU. Speed Rookie CPU and motherboard.

So maybe there'll be some kind of further insight. But if AMD has got this nailed down and they're not just issuing a denial, then it seems like it's probably probably solved at this point i mean that definitely looks like power got out of hand yeah um i mean i'm not i'm not an electronics engineer so um dan's holding his phone like this which is a oh oh oh oh car key i see hello. Do you want to say hi to the Wancho? She shrugged. I think that means yes. At least that's how I interpret it late at night, if you know what I mean.

I mean, what? Shrug? It's kind of a scent. Anyhoo. Bye. Bye. See ya. bye bye see ya um riley is adding a discussion question right now lily riley lily riley go home work workday's over uh but asks has more hardware been failing recently than used to be the norm or is this kind of thing more normal than it seems to me i mean cpu's failing yeah that's that's pretty abnormal yeah yeah hardware in general i would say probably no to be honest but cpus yes yeah if anything i would

say the designs for motherboards these days are far more robust than what we used to have in the past with like electrolytic capacitors and stuff like that caps were that was fun at least for enthusiasts the emphasis that gets placed on cooling these days by manufacturers i think that while they're certainly pumping more power through these things there's a lot more heat output yeah there's a lot more attentiveness to um to to keeping things cool and maintaining the longevity of these devices like as a whole the industry has learned learned a lot about the doodads and gizmos that they're playing around with, right? And if you're a manufacturer, you do not want a failure, at least not within the one to three years that most of them offer a warranty on their products. So, I mean, with that said, I'm not saying that mistakes ever get made.

I'm not saying that mistakes ever get made i'm not saying mistakes never get made i mean you ask someone like a lewis rossman about you know macbooks and he'll tell you all about design flaws for days or whatever but you know overall i can't say that i've i can't say that it seems any worse to me yeah oh yeah like we said kind of at the beginning probably not worse overall but it is surprising for it to hit cpus cpus have always kind of been the like rock solid piece of hardware in your computer go through multiple boards for one extremely long-term cpu sometimes yeah yeah and i feel like woefully unreliable stuff was way more common back then like think

about the early 680i motherboards remember those they were awful they failed all over the place everybody knew it i haven't seen just a known bad part like that in a long time yeah i feel like we might have we might have had like a few years there where it was abnormally low and we might be coming back out of that and that might be why he's feeling it more but it was definitely like yeah it was definitely pretty freaking bad yeah floatplane chat shout out ocz yeah i mean their memory modules would just drop dead spontaneously because ram used to like one of the first things i would check with diagnosing computers was does it have liquid caps and if there's a problem does it have liquid caps no okay is the ram dead like and ocz would literally create kits of what was called utt memory okay which is short for untested

they would they would have these utt memory kits they would sell them at like these insane speeds and really low latencies and high voltages and i think they were just playing a numbers game where they they bought this like cheap bargain, basically went, yeah, if anything goes wrong with it, lifetime warranty, we got you. And then they just counted on few enough of the buyers actually running those volts through them. And in the event that they did, few enough of them bothering to RMA it

because, you know what, realistically, what? Do I really even want a replacement for this? Or because the technology industry was moving so fast would i rather just upgrade to something else at this point anyway you know what forget it i i think i think that was the entire basis of their company yeah i mean i agility ssds anyone oh you know what's funny is some of yeah that that model where they just buy all this like trash sometimes some of it works for a really long time I was gonna say so I was actually the product manager for OCC at NCIX for a short period of time and their RAM was fine in those days other than the very high spec stuff other than the very high spec ddr2 but that could have

easily been down to the memory controllers just not being able to handle it because it was early days of ddr2 and it was rough i don't think we've had a worse transition than the one from ddr1 to ddr2 at least not since then anyway ddr3 is kind of rough anyway the point is uh their ram was actually mostly pretty good in those days and Depending on the batch the SSDs were actually super reliable. We had this We back in the day yeah, this green OCC agility 3. I just looked it up to make sure that I was right Yeah, and that thing went through Probably years and years a ton of junk over a lot of years. Except when they had bad batches.

Yeah. This is what I'm saying. Because that's the thing. It was this gamble. Bad QC is not always a problem. It's not. It doesn't mean bad product. It's only a problem when you don't catch something.

Yeah. Right? So that's, this is why. Okay. So we, we used to do these factory tours and we would often get pushback when we would try to show their failures. Because they would have like, oh, a failure bin or whatever, where like something didn't work out. Sennheiser was super mad. They didn't want us to show it was failed drivers for the HD800.

Yeah. And we were like, no, like this is a good story because this shows you're not going to ship them Yes, oh man. We had to twist their arms so hard like I don't like profiling But Germans, okay German perfection There's a sense of you know again. This is something I just like I can't relate to right, but there's's this like cultural sense of pride in German craftsmanship. Right.

So they didn't want to show that there could be a flaw. And I'm sitting here going, no, no, no, no. This is a story about about like painstakingly thorough German quality control. It doesn't have to be a story about make it right the first time, every time. We were trying to show that it was cool that this happened. We weren't trying to dog on them, but it took some convincing.

I think eventually... They did. We did end up including that in the video, and I felt that that was a truly, really important part of the story agreed because they really did care a lot they actually try and i mean i i did that video testing out cheap sports tech a little while ago if you don't match the frequency response of the drivers in each year it's a noticeable problem in the listening experience but that's what they were

doing was they were finding ones that didn't meet their standard and they were Making sure that the drivers were appropriately matched Really great story. Yeah. Yeah, man. That was a hilarious factory seeing the German versus the Japanese Like almost back to back right there was only a few months in between was really eye-opening because we we went to afterwards yeah both sort of both countries and cultures excellence are well respected around the world yeah for exactly that but they come to this conclusion the same conclusion in such utterly different ways, right? So, I mean, man, I forget if it was, was it Sennheiser or Cherry? I think it might've been Sennheiser. These were both in Germany,

but they had these bulletin boards and I will remember this forever till the day I die. First of all, both of them spotless. So clean you could eat off of any surface. This was Sennheiser. I remember this too. This was wild. Yeah, okay. Spotless didn't it didn't look like a factory it didn't smell like a fact they were definitely making stuff you could eat off the floor you you could eat off any surface

yes i swear to you yeah um anyway they had these bulletin boards you know spaced out you know very evenly um and they had things like safety bulletins, schedules, upcoming events, you know, workplace safety notices, all that kind of thing. And then in one corner, I think it was the corner, they had just this arrangement of rectangles.

And I stopped, I stopped the tour and I said, is that to make sure that the way that all the other bulletins are posted is exactly the same on everyone and they're like yeah and and so interviewing people there and talking to them not just the business people we got to talk to engineers as well. There's a different philosophy. So when, and it was really interesting looking at both Cherry and Omron because they both make fundamentally the same thing, right? So at Cherry there was, oh, did we talk about how we were also at ZF?

I don't know if we did in the video. Ah, statute of limitations. I'm sure they're not going to get mad about it at this point. Anyway, the point is we also got to check out some ZF stuff, even if it didn't make it into the video. So ZF does a lot of work for the automotive industry, which is kind of a thing in Germany, right? And anyway, but it's the Cherry MX switch

versus it was the Romer G that Omron and Logitech, who actually sponsored the video was really focused on and after after talking to everyone and seeing everything that we did the the bottom line thing that i came away with you know the the two sort of different approaches to this same ultimate end goal the two philosophies um was the german attitude was make it perfect, make it once, make it last, right? Whereas the Japanese approach was make it pretty darn good, make it pretty near perfect.

And make it twice. And make it twice and make it last. So the way that the Cherry MX switch works, right, is there's a contact, but there's only one. It's a gold-plated contact. And Cherry will talk your ear off for a week about, you know, how they fine-tune the gold, you know, leaf on the thing and the, you know, the size of the bump and blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever else, right? But in the Romer G, there's actually two. So if one of them fails, the other one still works and the switch operates normally. And I just thought, I thought those two approaches to the

design of a reliable switch were so cool, so interesting. Probably there's no cost benefit one way or the other, making it absolutely perfect every time versus making it mostly perfect, it one way or the other making it absolutely perfect every time versus making it mostly perfect but with redundancy but it just came down to design philosophy and i just i thought that was you can see that in a lot of other products a lot of other companies from those countries as well it's very interesting and the omron factory also very clean oh yeah and i would eat off of most surfaces but not quite all you know like it was okay if the bulletins were not arranged exactly the same way on every single board. That was okay. You know?

Yeah. Oh, this is interesting. There's apparently a new... There's leaked pricing for the ROG Ally. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm totally changing gears here. Real quick, Dan. I'm sorry.

I will get to that. I'll get to that really quick. Another leak. The ROG Ally will apparently start at $600 with AMD Z1 and 256GB SSD. If that's true, then this. Then that's just $70 higher than the same storage size Steam Deck. That's so aggressive. For how much more performance you're getting, and more importantly, for how quiet it is,

that is awesome. Like, awesome. The Ally is not a perfect experience, to be very, very, very clear here. What do you say the Steam Deck is, though? No. Well, no. But I'm talking about the Ally in a different way. experience to be very very very clear here you say the steam deck is though no well no but i but i'm talking about the ally in a different way i'm just clarifying for sure game compatibility is much better but the experience of playing those compatible games well there's some hurdles to

overcome still asus has a lot of work to do on the software. Interesting. And so does Microsoft. Windows is not optimized for these handheld consoles. And like, I just, just, I have this, okay, here, actually, I recorded this video on my phone conveniently. I was just, I was trying to do something basic. What the heck was I trying to do? I'm honestly having a hard time remembering. But I was...

Oh, yeah, right. I remember. I was trying to go into the stupid AMD control panel, and I was trying to alter a setting for the GPU driver. And I had a game running. I was playing Stray. I finally played Stray. I had a game running, and I couldn't get it open.

It just kept being Windows about it and yeah i can't i can't find it right now but i i kept i kept you know swiping up and then that brings up a little bar and then i'd swipe up again and then i would click the windows icon and then it would go away and i'd be okay so i'd swipe up twice again then i'd go into the system tray and i'd click the amd control panel and then stupid thing would go away. I'm like, okay, this is ridiculous. I'm not even in exclusive full-screen mode right now. Like, the Steam Deck is a console,

and that's its strength. Right now, the Ally is a computer with a controller bolted to it, and that comes with problems. And there's some things that Asus is doing where they're attempting to mitigate that, but it's a mitigation. Unless Microsoft gets involved, it's not going to be a perfect experience.

Now, on the Steam Deck, I'm not saying it's perfect either, but what it is is it's seamless. For the games that it does play, I shouldn't say seamless. It's less seamy. For the games that it does play i shouldn't say seamless it's less seamy for the games that it does play you can expect that there's been some kind of validation process that has taken place someone looked at it at some point do you think valve would have been interested in packaging steam os with the ally i don't know about the ally, but my understanding is that

they at some point talked to at least some of the competing handheld console makers, and they've certainly taken a fairly open approach to the operating system. It's not like, shoot, what's it called? It's escaping me now. But there's a third party

sort of basically SteamOS now but there's uh there's a third party sort of basically steam os um steam os alternative for desktop oh i can't hollow hollow iso that's the one and it's not like valve is clamping down on that or anything like that they've also i think i mean they committed at some point i don't know if they've actually talked about it lately, but they said they were going to release SteamOS as just a standalone operating system at some point. So at that point, nothing would prevent a third-party handheld maker from installing it

and shipping it. Like, it's free, right? Yeah. But what I also heard anecdotally is that there are certain things that Valve is keeping for themselves, like the profiles that they've created where they've tuned the game to run well on the steam deck hardware anyway that price excited and now is the time to explain merch messages okay those of you sending super chats this is the one time i'm gonna look at them hey shout out uh

prono bozo super cool and uh thanks darcy all right we so we got a couple super chats there you go because the real way to interact with the show is through merch messages uh if you go on lttstore.com and you check out with oh actually don't check out quite yet because we've got a couple of cool deals to announce and some new products some restocks all that kind of good stuff but if you go on lttstore.com and check out you'll see a little box called merch messages and you fill that out you check out your order and you will get your order in the mail which is great which is better than just kind of digital pixels or whatever. Throwing money into the void. Yeah, throwing money at the screen

like you would on Twitch or YouTube. And you might also get a reply from Dan, your message showing up at the bottom of the screen if you just want to say something that means something meaningful to you. Or Dan will select a handful of them for me and Luke to talk about either now or during WAN show after dark which is sort of the

second half of the show now it's a good time for me to go through and talk about some of the exciting stuff we've got going on on the store this week first up is if you wait did Nick get that done I don't see it in the notes um Dan the backpack the backpack thing do we know oh it should be done okay we've got a pretty cool promotion to celebrate almost being ready to ship a solution to the carabiner zipper pull

thing yes we are still working on it we're very very close and we have an update to share with you guys very shortly Luke's actually got them over there we are still working on it. We're very, very close and we have an update to share with you guys very shortly. Luke's actually got them over there. We are doing a promo where if you buy the backpack, so let's go ahead. I'll see if I can show this to you guys. Should be good to go. Okay. If you buy the backpack, add that to your cart and a meme pillow, like say for example this one sad linus or linus selfie we will give you the meme pillow for free there it is free pillow with backpack so it'll it'll automatically apply the discount you guys can check that out at lttstore.com we've also got some restocks we have new towel colors and the existing towels are back in stock so we actually sold out a particularly the large ones extremely quickly last time around

those are apparently better too i don't know if it's in the notes but nick was talking to me about how uh they did a new fabric softening thing in production which makes them absorb more water dry faster and something else that i don't remember i'm sorry nick but yeah apparently they're better go team we've got two new t-shirt design holy crap there really is a lot there's a lot of stuff going on this week um the sketchy pc t-shirt which is sketchy because it's like a sketch. Haha, get it? Hahaha. The Sketchy PC t-shirt is now available. And also, what? Northern Lights?

You could think of this as kind of like a spiritual successor to the old Constellations shirt. Pretty sick. I've already gotten one compliment on it. It was from my daughter. So I'm not sure if that counts. I think that definitely counts. Yeah, she was like, that's a cool shirt. Is that from your store?

I'm like, yeah. Yeah, it is. We also brought back the expensive edition CPU pillow. Oh, for crying out loud, you guys. Okay, well, apparently we brought back the expensive edition CPU pillow. So if you want to show that you have more money than cents, and your way of doing that is by putting something on your couch well there it is for 169.99 you too can be the proud owner of an

expensive edition cpu pillow um really people who buy this thing are happy with it it feels like a rip-off yeah exactly i mean that's what that's what I'm talking about. Wait, it feels empty. Okay. Oh, okay. So that's, it does take a little while to puff up and it does smell bad out of the box. Alpaca wool. Yeah. So that's something to be aware of. Like I have ones that I've had deployed on my couch for a long time and they're very

puffy. But if they've been, if they've just just been like sitting especially under a pile for a while They can compress and I would strongly recommend that you put them out Like to air out somewhere for like a week before you look You know put bury your face in them and smell them because they come from alpacas and so they they smell like alpacas Right out of the box. We actually had a very very low star rating on this product until we updated the description to include this please note that due to the 100 alpaca wool fill there may be a bit of an odor to this pillow especially when you first take it out of

the box uh yeah significant direct sunlight for the first few days. That's what we recommend, and that's been fixing problems for most people. Frey says, mine only smelled for about two days. Okay, there you go. Did you come back every hour and see if it still smelled? How do you know exactly how many days it smelled for? You know what? It doesn't matter. The point is, the last thing that I want to update you guys on is this.

We are apparently doing a onesie. This is Bridget's project, her pet project. I take no responsibility for this. I approved moving forward with production on one print. Not two, one. Okay, so this is the same prism design from the women's underwear so if you want to see a bit of a higher quality image you can just go in the store and check out any of the women's underwear products um and this is the confetti design also from the women's underwear

you can get a better picture of it there and we want to know Luke. Can you create a poll? Prism versus confetti let us know What you guys want to see yeah floatplane chats already like I am so down for this Yeah, okay, no do both No, no, there's no feet no there's no feet i i am just wearing socks it's just a just a an elastic elastic uh ankle all right so we'll get out we'll get a pull up for that and sorry nick didn't even want me to do all this stuff today but i was like no it's okay we'll give more store updates a Luke Luke carabiner update. Oh, let's do it. Hey Dan. Hey Dan Okay, Luke is gonna be our test monkey You're going to space today Luke. Yes. Let's hope you make it back. I'm waiting for so long. Okay

So am I going through the whole process Dan? Don't don't move around too much Just yell at Luke and tell him to go to the right place Okay, all right, let me know when you're ready Don't move around too much. Just yell at Luke and tell him to go to the right place. Okay. All right. Let me know when you're ready. He's working on it. Okay. The poll is working.

Most people are going for confetti so far, but it is pretty close. Okay. It's 41 to 59% so far. All right. Are we ready? He's working on it. The tripod's locked and the cameras are hard. We good? And again, am I going through the whole process?

Okay, Luke cam. Here we go. Okay, so aim a little bit to Luke's side. Nope, nope. You want the table. Table. There you go. Yep, there we go. There we go. Alright. I do want you to do it on the table. So Luke, you get no instructions. You get the defective carabiner, so you want to show the design flaw real quick, okay? No, no stop doing that no Dan. Don't follow him You're gonna give people motion sickness you guys okay, so this is the old zipper Yep, okay, and the design flaw is there's there's like no rail on it

And this is a hard pin down here, so if you press on the side it would break You want me to break it? I mean I don't feel i need to break it you can if you really want to i think it's pretty easy to understand this one has just break it some of them some of them are better than others but if you push hard enough you can break it it took a bit of force like i had to kind of send it most people they haven't failed mine haven't failed but some were had particularly thin walls and failed very easily so so it was clear that we needed to recall it also could come down to like how you actually pull on the zipper and stuff like that like i think the way that i pull on the zipper which i grabbed this yeah part i grabbed this part it's not going to fail for me because i don't apply any pressure to the actual arm but we're

still going to fix the problem and we're going to fix it for everyone so the kit that everyone will receive uh what are you doing right now? I don't know. I'm messing around. Oh, okay. Can you show the parts that will be included in the kit? So first of all, no, stop lifting it up. It's a little hard to see, but you are going to get this little arm that has kind of like a wider flat edge and a thinner flat edge that is for prying open the clasp on the zipper

that you currently have. And then last time we showed this off we had these like clamps that you had to squeeze this yeah that was not the real solution no so now this is the closing mechanism get get to that later we're going to show them how it works later okay so first remove the remove the defective pull so that's with the yep i'm not giving you any instructions so just do your best oh you already removed it yeah i was just kind of fiddling around luke you're supposed to be doing it for crying out loud you take this brass looking thing but it's probably not brass um and put it in the zipper

and then you just turn it to the side okay very easy we'll turn it then show them show the people you have to show the people you put it in geez and you turn it then. Show them. Show the people. You have to show the people, Luke. You put it in. Jeez. And you turn it to the side. Great. Okay. And it lifts it up just enough that you can get a new one in. Nope. Stop. I was trying to find it for myself.

So this, the circle right here, you can see it's very thin on this edge. Yes. That is very easy to get under it once you've pried it open just a little bit. You don't have to send it to the moon because you might actually break the, I don't know what this part is called. Not might, you will. You will. Yeah.

It's not designed to be open and closed a bunch of times. It's also not designed to be open super wide. It's designed to be closed once. But what we found is you can probably get away with anywhere from three to four before they will definitely fail. But you should only ever really do one because we're going to send you

this. These awesome new zippers right here. Okay, great. They're going to be probably a little bit smaller just because I found that with them that tall. They're pretty big. Yeah, they kind of were cumbersome. It could definitely be smaller.

And then these ones are much better at dealing with side to side force. So they're a single titanium piece and they've just got like this little... It's hard to see see but there's like slots in it here yeah which allow it to bend yeah and it's still not like if you if you really oh you could try and break it and you can break it yes of course you'd have to really crank it like you'd have to be trying to do damage to it yeah it's not going to happen by accident just pulling on the zipper which is what it's intended for okay so go ahead and try to install it step one yes i haven't opened actually done this but good that's the whole point i'm trying to see so i have the new zipper i'm going to put it in the thingy majiggy

that i just opened got it this is hilarious audio gary and uh floatplane chat is like can i just buy the zipper changing kit? I have some busted up zippers that this would be lovely for. So now this thing, the only way to really get at it, especially when it's in a bag, on a bag, whatever, is going to be to go inside the zipper. Yep. So there's a little garage.

I'm going to move that out of the way. I'm very proud that I actually did contribute to the final design for this. Part of the whole requirement is that while you do this, you pull a beard hair out with the microphone that's in front of you. So what, okay, I've got that in position now.

That's pretty easy. You just kind of move it on and then it's done. A little garage there. And then I'm assuming you just turn this until you can't because that would be good design. And I feel like I'm probably done okay well let's find out I mean loosen it back and then pull it off look the idea here guys is that we are we are testing this we're testing this with a real user with no instructions like real users will tend to dang it luke okay it's

fine we're good okay sorry i'll do it on the flat surface there you go okay try and get it out try and try and get out of the gap where the people can see yeah that's not coming out again that's a situation like i'm putting enough force on this where i'd have to be trying to damage it in order to do that um okay now you guys are probably wondering well why aren't you just done yet then the answer is that we still have a couple of things to fine-tune uh did tynan provide any of the uh the re-tighteners that broke no No, I don't think so. Okay, well, we managed to break a couple of them in the re-tightening process. Also, as you can probably imagine,

these are 3D printed. Yeah. And if we're going to be manufacturing, let's see. Quite nicely to whoever did this. 40,000 of them. They're not going to be 3D printed. That would be stupid.

They're going to be injection molded. Yeah, that's our fancy new printer. It's really cool. It's nice. Yeah. Anyway, but we're not doing 40,000 parts in it. Tell you that much. It's quite a bit more expensive. Um, so we need to get molds done. We need to get 40,000 parts manufactured, right? Like making one of anything takes some time. Making a thousand of something takes more time. And then there's also all the zippers. One kit, but tons of pulls. Yeah. So we also have to manufacture like 160,000 zippers, right? Well, yeah. Like that's the thing, right?

Is that I remember giving the team a hard time. I was like, hey, we're out of stock of bits. Because some of the bit sets for the screwdriver are out of stock. I'm like, well, can we get more? We've got to get them quickly. And they're like, well, here's the thing, boss. How do you get that many so quickly? Each pack is however many times however many packs.

You're asking me to order like a million bits. They only have so many machines, boss i'm like oh someone in full plane chat said break it show what it takes i don't want to do that because i don't know how many of these they have i have seen tynan take this to okay just do it hold on hold on let me let me just switch to the loot cam and you can just hold it up where we can see what you're doing next to my face okay dan unbelievable oh he was making kissing noises okay so one little thing is i torqued it pretty far already another resting position i don't know if you guys can see that but it's slightly to the side but with how it's made I could just do that and

Yep, now it's perfect again because I just bend it back the other way. We're not recommending that just to be very clear We're not saying do that over and over again. That would be really stupid any metal is going to Degree now is gonna eventually break from fatigue And then I'm gonna try to like put it back Lord II this is very painful there it goes okay that took a lot of effort that would never happen under a normal use case never say never but probably not yeah not everything can break yeah everything can break someone's gonna break one of these happen yeah yeah ideally not the one you broke thanks for nothing wow it's like yeah here you want a sandwich i digested this one already

it's got all the components of a sandwich i mean and some other stuff some of them were used i'll break the water bottle yeah like we... The ability to break something does not mean that it is poorly designed or weak. And like it can be... It can be because of the way that it's structured. It could be bent this way. Yeah. Pretty much an unlimited number of times. Yeah.

Nothing is unlimited. Nothing is perfect. Yeah. But this way... Yeah, you could break that eventually. I got it slightly past 90. Like the use case where that's going to happen is crazy. You would have to get caught on something.

You would have to do something very bad to it. Yeah. Cool. In which case, like, it's just going to be a problem. Like, it takes some effort. Yeah. Sure, you can break it if you drag the metal beyond 90 degrees. Like, I don't know.

All right. I'm excited. It's going to take some time we've got a lot of stuff to manufacture but man we got there oh when we figured out that we were going to have to deal with that to be clear there was never any question of whether we were going to deal with it or not trust me bro but the question of how and at what cost obviously there's those need to be answered yeah um the cost is very high well yeah it's a lot of stuff it's a lot of titanium and they're nice it's four pulls per bag Okay That's okay. That's what profit margins are for right that No profit margins are for profit

Oh, if you must if you must consume them with a product recall then you do it, but that's not what they're for But you need to have some of it just in case they're for building labs. Yeah hiring people so many new people lately all right well that's some bad news about that by the way which we can talk about after the show oh yep all right cool yeah hit me okay first up today's from robertus, what do you think are the biggest advantages and disadvantages of ADHD? If you need help, I forgot what it was, I was going to ask why I was buying this. slash like, you know, dragon energy creativity is, I would say, the biggest benefits for me. The biggest drawback is if I am not interested in something, I basically cannot force myself to do it. And that has all kinds of negative implications in life, you know, whether it's

flunking out of school, whether it's, you know, difficulty, um, fostering relationships because you just ain't interested in what that person's talking about. And no amount of, of trying to make yourself focus on it will make you retain any of it. I, I, I, I, I think my best, my best survival, um, my best survival strat has been to just surround myself with people that I am interested in so that I don't have to deal with that kind of thing. I'm going to make my own company where everyone is someone that I would want to talk to because if there's someone I don't want to talk to, I'm simply not able to do it. Yeah, it's tough. mean and everyone every everyone's a little bit different you know i think just trying to apply one label to everybody when we're all such complicated creatures full of you know chemicals and electrical impulses and all kinds

of fun things is brain drugs yeah it's very challenging right right? But for me anyway, that's my experience. Hit me with another. Here comes another. Next one's from George. How has your approach to content creation changed over the years? And what strategies do you use to keep your audience engaged and interested in your videos? Did you pick related questions on purpose? I try and create a theme. Because basically basically my approach

changes when I get bored and my boredom happens a lot faster than yours because I have ADHD so that's the idea right and it's actually helped a lot yeah like I I remember there was this this outcry from the audience when we stopped doing power supply unboxings right what you're we stopped doing power supply unboxings, right? What? You're not going to do power supply unboxings anymore? And the same thing happened when we stopped doing motherboard unboxings

and all these different categories that we covered at some point and then basically just went, eh, I'm bored, and stopped doing. And even though, you know, a significant portion of the audience was upset about it, the channel never did anything but grow at those points. Because even if they didn't realize it, they were going to get bored.

It was going to happen. And something had to change. And I knew that at that time, we weren't set up to change the way that we approached covering those products. We didn't have the funding or the knowledge or the experience to do detailed power supply testing, for example. So that wasn't going to happen. So the better thing for us to do was to go find something that did excite us and go do that instead. And it worked. We also do listen to the audience. You can't just ignore the audience and just do whatever whim strikes you.

That's not going to be a good content creation strategy either. So figuring out how to separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to audience feedback and then trusting your instincts as well. I mean, don't imagine that we're never going to return to those categories. That's the entire point of the lab. Like we've got, I don't, I don't even remember how much that power supply tester from Chroma cost us, but I believe it's fully set up now, like actually like physically set up. And I believe they're coming for training, like in a matter of days or weeks.

It's not months. And, oh, you want to know something really cool? The RF chamber. a matter of days or weeks it's not months and oh you want to know something really cool the rf chamber two days into its 10-day construction right now oh cool yeah the techs are here building it right now that's awesome yeah i'm really excited rf chamber is going to be great because man covering stuff like wireless router how do you how do you do it right like obviously you know i tried to find ways back in the day like i in in my old house for example i would put them in the same place every time and i had like a handful of places that i would check and then i'd be like okay yeah the signal strength and transmission data rate are you know x and x minus y and x plus y or x plus z or whatever for

all these different products and it's like something but it's it's not scientific it's not repeatable right so the rf chamber is going to change all of that very very excited and not just wireless routers like we're talking cell phones we're going to have our own like 4G, 5G network thing. It's going to be awesome. Like which phone has the best reception? Literally nobody covers that. They're phones ostensibly. And yet we don't talk about the fact that my phone,

I can't carry on a conversation even though I'm on the same network as my wife and she can. I feel like this used to be a thing like it was a decade or more ago totally was and now it's not really covered at all yeah drives me crazy it's annoying i want to know why i can hear luke's phone on the mics and i can't hear linus's or mine right that would be amazing interesting we should test like my stupid phone i've always wanted to know that. That would be interesting. I'm super into it.

Okay, let's do some rapid fire. Now, actually be rapid fire. Okay, what's our time limit? Do you have a timer? 40 minutes ago. Let's go. I told Dan he's supposed to have a timer for rapid fire, but he has ADHD, so he didn't do it.

I forgot. We can use the pain timer. Here we we go my daughter is a big fan she wanted to ask linus is excited for the new legend of zelda tears of the kingdom have you seen the demo footage vehicle building looks insane it was two seconds i i'm i hate giving nintendo money but i'm going to do it anyway it's the only way i can get you a timer this is going to be really confusing all right let's get rid of that then yeah yeah i haven't watched any of the demos for the same reason that i don't watch trailers of movies i know i'm gonna watch i'm gonna play it um with that said i i felt you know when you finish a game or a book or a movie and you're like,

That's good. It ended at the right time. It's done. Yeah. When I beat Ganondorf at the end of Breath of the Wild, I wasn't one of those people who has gone back over the last three or four years and played it more. I loaded it up recently because I wanted to try it on the ROG ally with Simu and just kind of see what the performance like amazing

It's so much better than the switch Anyway, I so I fired it up and even in the in the beginning areas of the game. I couldn't fight anything I almost died just like fighting stupid basic but coblins or whatever they're called and I'm sitting here going Oh crap when tears of the kingdom comes out I'm gonna have to learn this all over again I'm gonna suck whereas like I had

no problem farming like the top tier equipment from whatever those like horsey centaur guys are whatever like that I was I was like good like I beat the game or whatever um ah anyway I hate giving Nintendo money I'm gonna do it beat the game or whatever. Ugh.

Anyway. I hate giving Nintendo money. I'm going to do it anyway. But I'm going to give them my money and then I'm going to play it on my ally if I can. I hate that my save data is stuck on the stupid Switch. Oh yeah, for sure. I want something I can back up. It's actually dangerous.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Okay, next up. With the prices of prices of nvidia's 4000 series do you think their 5000 series will be even more expensive yep okay yeah you're getting better at this atlas os sounds like a perfect solution to bloatware on new setups but how would you work around potential software or data loss using on a machine that has existing software i'm so glad you brought up atlas os because there's been some outcry in the community over our promotion of the project. So first of all, I just want to say we did include a list, not exhaustive,

but it did include most of the major concerns from people in the community of potential downsides to Atlas OS, including the fact that it disables UAC, disables Windows Defender, it handicaps windows update so there are there are definitely issues with atlas os the way that it is the main point that we wanted to feature it was we wanted to demonstrate what an unbloated windows can look like and the atlas os devs are well enough aware

of the issues and they're actually working on them which is which is really really exciting so it's it's great that people are giving their feedback about those concerns and it's great that the atlas devs are taking the whole thing seriously i saw a lot of people making really weird suggestions like you shouldn't use atlas os it's sketchy you should use a d bloater atlas os is a d bloater um it open source. That's not to say that it's perfect in its current iteration. There's definitely stuff that they need to work on in order to make it safer to daily drive for regular users. As it is right now, you should only use it if you 100% know what you're doing. And if you are running a third-party antivirus, if there's any risk whatsoever of you doing something, whoops. Which, frankly, with how sophisticated cyber attacks are these days days is a non-zero chance for anyone like even you

something could happen right yep okay next up i think i think sorry i just want yeah if you're if you're wanting to set it up like like imagine the uh the racing sim up there. Like say it was one of those types of computers. All you ever do is like update the game through Steam. You don't browse ever, all that kind of stuff. Like maybe you can get by with it, but it's not a good idea to run completely antivirus-less. Sorry, keep going.

But I think I made the mistake in that video of just kind of... Brushing over it a little bit too. Well, more assuming that i was talking to my audience instead of accounting for that a lot of people who watch our videos are not like dialed in yeah you know they're not watching every day they're not advanced users necessarily and I think that was a little irresponsible. On that subject, actually, there's another thing that I was probably a little irresponsible about and is worth addressing at this point. We talked about Nebula a couple of weeks ago and their CEO posted in their subreddit that I got basically everything wrong, which is one way of saying it. There are a couple of things that I miscommunicated, and there are a couple of things that I misunderstood.

And I think most of it is just due to the fact that I had outdated information, which I really should have accounted for. I also did a really poor job of explaining when I said that a subscription, out of a subscription, very little of that money would go to the individual creator. And what I meant was that if I, a creator, sold a subscription to Nebula to my audience, I would get very little of that over the lifetime of that subscriber. That's not to say that I get very little money. That's to say that it's a completely different model. I don't know how their thing works. If someone subscribed and then only watched your content,

is it divided based on what content they watch? Theoretically, it's based on watch time. So if someone only watched the person they subscribed to and nobody else ever. That I don't know. Yeah. That I don't know. But based on that, it's an all you can eat platform where you subscribe to the entire library.

Yeah, you'll probably watch other stuff. See, I don't, my goal isn't to out anyone or anything here either. My goal isn't to out anyone or anything here either, but the way that I, the way that I approached that saying that, you know, it seemed like people were more into the part ownership, which is a really good thing, by the way,

the fact that the creators are part owners in the platform, but the way that I approached that saying like, okay, well they're doing this thing where they have these lifetime subscriptions. It seems like they're trying to boost subscriber count. Maybe it's an exit strategy or whatever else. The reason I said that was not because I didn't think the platform was profitable. It's been pretty clear that they're profitable for a long time.

Dave posted on Twitter like a month ago, I think, that they're spending half a million dollars on YouTube advertising a month or something like that. So for me, it was not a question of, are they profitable? It was a question of what's the end? What's the, what's the purpose of this here, right? Like, why do you need a quarter million dollars in funds if you're spending half a million dollars a month on, on advertising through YouTube or whatever the case may be. So the other thing too, is that, you know, as far as, as far as I could tell, and again, this is outdated conversations, right? It's like a year ago.

With people that I've talked to that have left the platform, no, it wasn't generating a significant amount of money for them. So I don't know. So I guess what I'm trying to say is there's definitely things that I missed. Dave made it very clear that they're not heading towards an exit. So I'm still confused about the lifetime membership. There's definitely things that I missed. Dave made it very clear that they're not heading towards an exit. So I'm still confused about the lifetime membership. But sure. And I think that's everything that I wanted to clarify.

I had a lot of people comment to me directly, actually, that they, you know, thought it was weird that I was commenting on a competitor. And Davis said publicly already, and I've said before, I don't see them as a competitor. They're not in the same space. It's a very different model. They have video on their website, but that's about where the similarities end. I think you could say that we're more of a Patreon competitor if you would even if we weren't an ant that patreon would squish under their heel right like we're just gonna do our own thing float planes float plane man it maybe it'll take off someday and if it doesn't hey it ain't gonna sink that's literally what the branding means and it's been

a massive success for us internally. We don't hide the numbers, right? We've got over 42,000 monthly subscribers on Floatplane right now. It's actually been a really exciting last few months for Floatplane. And we passed the one-month anniversary of the hack. So that's people that stayed around. Well, yeah, there's really good content. Yeah.

We actually saw no real noticeable dip on the anniversary of the hack. And like many of the creators that, you know what? I think I've said enough. That's pretty much all I have to say about it. Our model works for us, their model works for them yeah and that's fine yeah and I'm glad they're not heading for an exit because it's something that I've always said is it's been nice having them in the space because while I don't see them as a competitor the landscape of hey you can support us outside of main platform that

we are on whether that's youtube or instagram or twitch or whatever else growing that at all is cool because it legitimizes that space how different companies decide to approach that in like nebula's model or floatplane's model or patreon's model or whoever else's model um they can be ever more different from each other um and i think flip plane and nebula are quite different but it's just nice having more people in that space because it it normalizes it which is good yeah moving on okay oh man what do you want to talk to now let's talk about the mountains of dead chromebooks yeah i think this is interesting i think you're being a hater right now so i'm gonna make you

read the topic you read the topic sounds good struggle with mountains of dead chromebooks during the pandemic american schools bought a massive number of chromebooks according to a recent report those schools now have a massive number of unusbooks. Massive. According to a recent report, those schools now have a massive number of unusable devices. Unusable. I'm your hype man. In part because of the obvious cheapness of the materials, but also because the devices are hitting the end of their security updates.

Officially, Chromebooks get five to eight years of updates. Five to eight years. But their auto expiration date is determined by when the device was certified, not when it was sold. Google tells users to expect an average of four years of updates at time of sale. After Chromebooks pass that expiration date, they can no longer access secure websites, including state testing sites. Okay. Pointless changes to basic parts between different models make the Chromebooks difficult to repair.

For example, six different manufacturers of the Chromebook 11 made cosmetic changes to the plastic bezel that made parts incompatible between models. Luckily, or not, many schools have large stockpiles of busted Chromebooks to salvage parts from. But salvage is inefficient by design. Yeah. Usually, if a Chromebook has a single broken key, the entire keyboard needs to be replaced. One school official reported that a typical repair involves replacing half the device. Yeah. There was an interesting anecdote from Wednesday's TechLinked episode where Gideon Fraser commented,

fun fact, after having worked as a hardware tech guy in a Georgia school, I can go ahead and tell you that these Chromebooks are actually closer to 90 US dollars a piece and these kids obliterate them. If a key is bad, you can go to the back room filled to the brim with broken comb books look for one with a functional keyboard and part match actually you do that with every

fixable component on these god-awful machines we don't really buy any part parts replacements because we already have enough broken ones that we should have any part we would need that would actually be a viable to fix and then another person responded as well as a fellow tech in texas i can confirm those damn screens are just constantly coming in shattered this just in kids not careful with their things especially when they aren't their things yeah more at 11 yeah. I don't think them breaking often would be different if it was a Chromebook or not. I actually don't either. I think that kids would be very likely to break school-owned laptops regardless of whether

they were Chromebooks or MacBooks or Windows books or whatever. I used to get so enraged at how people would treat the computers in the computer labs. The lab that you and your friends built? Yeah. But even the ones that we didn't because like we had such a low budget that like if you break the optical drive on this thing we don't get another one and people would be shoving like garbage they would take like candy wrappers and put in the optical drive and shove it closed like i used to have a little tool i would walk around

with to be able to do the manual pop out of optical drive so i could pull them open and take trash out like it's so annoying like don't like if you don't destroy everything more of the budget can go towards making this place nice yeah can we stop like man it used to be so frustrating so i'm not surprised that people would it's not surprised that people would trash these so this is going to happen with whatever and i don't believe most laptop keyboards that i know of have like user user repairable individual keys so like a lot of these complaints i'm i'm coming down on like i don't know if i can rag on the chromebook for this no it's not chromebook specific but what is very frustrating is the fact that these devices will expire on average in four years. I mean, I just bought a Chromebook for my middle child because she needs it for school next year. And I'm sitting here going, well, I didn't think to check if it was certified like yesterday or a year ago or two years

ago or four years ago it's modern hardware so probably it was certified fairly recently but i didn't think to check that and i can see how that would be exactly the sort of thing that whether it's a parent or whether it's a buyer for a school district or whatever else there's so many other factors to consider other than when the device was certified that honestly i i just i straight up think that this should just be illegal and laptops are better now there was like when i was kind of late high school it was general wisdom that if you bought a laptop it lasted three years yeah within three years it was going to be crap anyway. That's not really a thing anymore. That's not true. You could buy a ThinkPad that's 10 years old on eBay. You know, like that's core, second gen core, third gen core. I mean, oh, I mean, fourth gen core is almost 10 years old at this point.

And that'll be very usable today. As long as you can make sure that you get proper security on it, you update the heck out of it. And then you're just like browsing the internet? That's fine. Who cares? So what is our justification for allowing this stuff to just expire this way? And back to the part that I think

should actually be illegal. Why are we allowing companies to continue selling these products well into their lifespan, knowing that what the customer is buying today is a significantly shorter shelf life than what they bought at the beginning of the product cycle. You should have to, well, you shouldn't really be able to do it at all, but you should have

to communicate like this device has 800 days left until it is garbage when you buy the thing. Well, if you're going to hard lock it like that, I mean, if it's going to be a degraded experience, okay, fine. You know, like Apple doesn't roll out new Mac OS updates for their Macs forever. At some point, you do have to deprecate the hardware. That actually is fine. It would be enormously burdensome for them to have to support it forever. It's not what I'm asking for. Someone in floatplane chat, Mike D78 said, I'm watching this show on a fourth gen i5 ThinkPad. Works fine. Exactly, right? Yeah. And so what I'm saying is knowing

that assuming the kids don't beat the crap out of it, the hardware could still be good in more than four years or even more than five or eight years. It should be communicated. And this is something that I will often tell people when they're shopping for a phone. When people ask me for advice for a phone, I almost never give an exact model because then it's my problem if they don't like it. But what I will do is I'll give them some tech tips. And one of the ones that I will really,

really try to emphasize is, hey, you need to think about it in terms of total cost of ownership. And I know that that's more of a business, the way of considering things, but in our personal lives, it's very applicable. If you buy a brand new iPhone today, right? You can buy a brand new iPhone from the last generation. It's cheaper, right? It's also not as good, but a big part of the reason it's cheaper is not the hardware. It's the support. So if the difference in price between, let's just use arbitrary numbers, between a $1,000 iPhone and an $800 iPhone, okay, is one-fifth,

but that $1,000 one is going to last for five years, and that thousand dollar one is going to last for five years and that eight hundred dollar one is going to stop getting support in four years guess what they're the same are you wanting me to say it sure cost of ownership total cost of ownership exactly now that's not always true right it depends what kind of user you are are you the type of person that uses your devices into the ground well okay then what i just said is very applicable but if you're the kind of person who's going to upgrade in two years or three years anyway then it becomes more of a question of well are the features important to you as opposed to just the the total cost you're going to pay per year of owning the device, right? Because then all of a sudden, they're the same in terms of their software expiry.

So you start to move on to other factors. But it's a really important thing to consider, especially with Android phones. Buying a year-old Android phone, particularly a few years ago, when they weren't getting support the same way that i mean samsung does four years now i think three oh yeah if you don't mind looking that up it would be that would be good to know uh but there was a while there where you know you were getting one two very rarely three major android updates on your android phone, yeah. So they do four years now at least. But it wasn't always that way, and not all vendors have that level of commitment.

And so if you're buying it a year into the cycle, don't be fooled. If it's 20% off, that ain't a deal. You're just buying old hardware at full price, right, for how long you're going to be able to use it. So our latest pixels are apparently five years now, which is, which is really great. And yeah, that's, it's, it's a major factor that you should consider. Uh, we're supposed to do sponsors now. Thanks, Dan. The

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no i thought the same thing i thought it was one of you guys because it's like really quiet next to my head coming out of my microphone but yes it's right it's uh okay we're all going insane as long as i'm not going insane we can continue carbon monoxide filter alarms getting really irritating there's somebody there's somebody on youtube sending 55 canadian dollar super chats over and over again you just can't even and i can't even see them to read them don't send super chance buy stuff on the store we like try to check them but just don't do it and if't even see them to read them don't send super chance buy stuff on the store we like try to check them but just don't do it and if you don't want to buy stuff just buy gift cards and never use them yeah if you must just throw money at us it's like the world's worst bank

yeah yeah you can only withdraw them in the form of products of high quality apparel I mean that's not that bad actually But you get no interest Yeah, except the interest you'll get from wearing That was pretty good that was pretty good Oh one of our topics today was response to the Atlas OS video, I guess I kind of yeah jump in I think we're done that one. Yeah, I think we're good on that one. Big accounts forcibly re-verified on... Do we want to even talk about it?

I didn't say the name yet. All right, you do it. You can skip it. Oh, great. We're talking about it. We're talking about it. A bunch of big accounts are forcibly re-verified on the Twitters. Including the at Linus Tech account.

Yep. And when we say forcibly, oh man, the narratives that people are creating in their own heads about this, like that celebrities were outraged that they don't get to feel special because of their verification check marks or that they're just,

I don't know, that this is, that this matters. It's Twitter, I don't know, that this is, that this matters. It's Twitter. I don't care. Yeah, okay, carry on. For no stated reason, Twitter has been haphazardly reverifying certain prominent accounts without the consent of the account holder. Well, okay, I want to jump in and say the reason that matters is because of what the badge says of what the badge says the way that it's worded makes it sound like you're a

paying twitter blue subscriber it's it it says you are yes quite specifically yeah these check marks still say that the oh there it is still says that the account is subscribed to twitter blue which seems unlikely in the case of figures like kobe bryant anthony brudain jamal a journalist who was murdered five years ago so yeah i mean that makes sense uh sometimes accounts of people who have passed will be managed by a team and stuff like that but yeah probably not that one probably not uh some of the verifications appear to have been given out of spite prominent twitter comedian at drill who has advocated blocking accounts subscribed to twitter blue was given a blue check mark several times as he kept changing his profile name to get rid of it i actually

don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory um or the well the the the the tinfoil hat theory about this. I was about to say I don't think Twitter management is actually petty enough to go find individual users and keep reverifying them. I don't actually know that for sure, but my understanding is it's basically anyone with over a million followers

that's just getting... It's just happening automatically. It's just getting reverified. It just seemed like a bug to me i don't know um probably some security thing back in the day to like fix other bugs where it's like oh this person accidentally lost their verification let's just reapply it yeah drill has 1.8 million followers and interestingly is not verified right now probably because they changed their name slave to woke all right uh several fake accounts were also verified including a fake hillary clinton uh and an account pretending to represent a sudanese paramilitary group when these tweeted falsely that the group's leader had died um okay claiming that celebrities have subscribed to twitter blue when they have not may qualify as in quotes false endorsement and expose twitter

to legal action uh i suspect unless twitter goes sorry it was a bug and then the whole thing goes away yeah i mean i don't know. That could be the defense. They could also come up with something more creative. There was the super creative, you can't tell that that was me. It could have been a deepfake defense. I particularly try not to follow this stuff, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. We talked on the show about how this was going to happen, though.

Yeah. Like 100%. Because when the deep deep fake stuff gets convincing enough you you can not only not really be able to believe what is actually real but you also if something is real it becomes hard it becomes very easy for people to kind of be like nah it's fake's fake. Yeah, this is great. Tesla defense lawyers tell the court that Elon Musk's statements could be deep fakes. And this is in... Do they just mean broadly

or are they talking about one specific thing? The judge in the autopilot death case where this is being presented says that this defense argument is deeply troubling. I mean, it is. Especially because they weren't. But they're saying, but they could be. So anything that he's ever said about the capabilities of autopilot or whatever else,

basically they're saying, unless you were there in person, you have no way of knowing that it wasn't a deepfake. So it should be just, what, inadmissible? What a wild time. Is this a wild time or what? Twitter sucks. It's convenient for connecting to people that you might need to talk to because it has a lot of people on it. It's my number one source of which celebrity

died today honestly that probably makes sense that's how i found out that um oh shoot now it's escaped me i i only know this because uh bob barker was trending and i was like no not bob barker and it was people being glad that it wasn't Bob Barker um oh Jerry Springer oh okay yeah it was Jerry Springer I was gonna say that would make me feel really bad for who it was but then um oof

wow I think that's a too soon right there I can't say I was a fan of the man's work necessarily but I don't know him personally at all I was probably too far I'm not gonna start talking and get you out of this I can let's

start talking about Twitter Linus is getting a cosmetic procedure yeah so I'm not going to start talking and get you out of this. I can. Let's start talking about Twitter. Linus is getting a cosmetic procedure. Yeah. So. What? Why? Where?

How? I'm going to get microneedling. What is that? It's where they take a needle and they stab your face over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Wow. Many, many, many, many times. It's like getting a tattoo, but there's no ink, essentially. Okay.

Yeah, so the idea is that it basically like... Scars you. Destroys. No, no, it doesn't. I'm kidding. Super small needle. I'm kidding, yeah. It basically like destroys all the very top layer of tissue or like skin on your face and it promotes collagen

production like a recycling thing basically yeah pretty much yeah yeah just so it's not it's you know what's interesting is i was are you awake for this oh yeah there's like a numbing cream so hopefully that'll help yeah it's tomorrow. It doesn't sound comfortable. No, it really doesn't. I've had a lot of issues all over the place. So they put a whole ton of needles in my quad once. Oh, yeah? And my quad spasmed because of it, which is something they told me that could happen. Okay.

All right. My quad spasmed, and I bent all of the needles like sick oh yeah you've told me about that that's hilarious yeah that was really brutal is it possible that like your cheek could go and it like bends needles in your face i doubt it i don't see why it would if they leave them in or are they just going no it's like it's like it's more like a tattoo like a sewing machine yeah okay yeah yeah so wow uh i was actually like was pretty, I was pretty anti any kind of rejuvenating procedure until it was actually David here that I was having a conversation with. I'll always remember this because it was on this whirlwind trip to Germany that we took

where we were there and back and like, if it was, if it was more than 48 hours, it wasn't by much. And that's a long flight. And that included shooting a video. It was, it was, it was a tough trip,, it wasn't by much. And that's a long flight. And that included shooting a video. It was a tough trip. But we did manage to get out and just kind of hang out for a little bit. And he presented me with a viewpoint that I hadn't really considered before. And he was like, yeah, I'm not super into altering your appearance dynamically.

But I don't see anything wrong with maintenance. In much the same way that you might put a fresh coat of paint on your house. If it's looking dilapidated, I don't see anything wrong with putting a fresh coat of paint on your body. And I was like, okay. So all it does is it stimulates the body's natural collagen production that lowers as you age. Uh, so it'll, it helps to reduce wrinkles and just kind of generally rejuvenates your skin so i'm like you know what all right i'll give it a shot i'll see why not it's like a few hundred bucks i think i'll let you know okay yeah it's probably going to be very painful yeah well i mean yeah depends how good the numbing cream is but like getting a tattoo on your face sounds like it would suck oh yeah for sure i mean

well if darth maul can do it then all i have to do is channel the dark side of the forest and i should be fine you should like you should troll your kids that way like tell them you're going to get this thing done and then come back with like a like a face paint darth maul face paint yeah i don't think i'll need it oh god face will be quite red. You look really red. That makes sense. Yeah. I'd be really irritated. That makes sense.

Is this new news for LTS? This looks like a lot of new news. Wow. Oh, are we like officially announcing all the booths? This is cool. Yeah, let's talk about it. Sure. Okay. LTS 2023 brought to you by Asus rog i don't know if

that was announced before but that's a thing now um for creators we have a bunch more creators confirming their attendance to ltx 2023 i can bring it up but i feel like you probably should if any other creators are interested and are currently hearing about LTX and want to attend, reach out to info at LTX expo.com. Here's our creators page. There's a bunch. We have a pretty big creator budget this year. Wow.

See any big names? Yeah, you do. I see a lot of names. Yeah, you do. A bunch of them are big. Yeah, you do.

Yeah, you do. Heck yeah. lot of names. Yeah, you do. And a bunch of them are big. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do! Heck yeah. Is this freaking awesome or what? I'm just excited to like meet up with a bunch of these people. I know, right? A bunch of these people I want to meet for the first time and a bunch of them I haven't seen in years because I haven't been out. Yeah, is this sick or what? Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah! Oh, I'm super excited. It's gonna be awesome. Other than meeting very cool creators, there's a bunch of other things you can do there's booths for a 3d printing workshop a Build your own screwdriver with like different colors and all this kind of stuff a sim racing setup with four to eight rigs Wow An NZXT case toss with three lanes. Yeah, three lane case stuff The line was so long it was and we're gonna have more people this year

We I think we have almost as many tickets sold now as we did last time. But wait for it. We haven't published a main channel video announcing it yet. Oh, whoa. Yeah. We definitely did last time. Oh yeah. Wow.

It's like people want to get out and hang out and see things and people i've also talked to a bunch of people that are just very excited because they went last time and it was so good and they want to go again like there's a lot of hype of like we could finally do it i got um there's an epic games uh collaboration with pc building simulator 2 uh They sponsored a water cooling workshop. Super cool. Google Pixel will be sponsoring the meet and greet area. Neat. MSI, Kioxia, the gaming stadium, London Drugs,

DD Mics and Ridge Wallet and Silverstone and more are coming on board to be sponsors of the event. Whale PCs. We announced on Twitter that starforge systems will be building our whale pcs and ltx merch reservations reserve merch for pickup during the expo oh yeah so here is what it all looks like the sweater and the shirt are so sick yeah they're so cool i'm pretty stoked um now there is a way we we talked about this uh before where we had said that ltx exclusive merch so this stuff was not going to be available online we have found a way that maintains the you know the the integrity of the exclusivity of event merch, but also makes it available online.

So what we've done is we've created a digital pass. And it's as simple as subscribing on Floatplane at the $10 tier. So if you're subscribed on Floatplane, you'll get a whole bunch of content from the event. So all the panels, any of the games that we play on stage, we're going gonna have our social team which is like three or four people now yeah yeah they do a great job yeah they do a great job they're gonna be running around filming stuff basically just going straight from sd card

to float plane throw a title on it they're gonna their their directive is upload. Pump content. Upload. No delay. Go shoot something. Walk back to the computer. Press upload. Title it. Walk away and shoot something else.

Like, let's go. So all of that will be going to the $10 tier, all that LTX content. Some of it may be available at the $5 tier. I think live streams, we have no way of differentiating right now. It's just not a feature that the platform supports. So if we were to do anything live, that might be available. And we might do, you know, maybe a more produced summary video or behind the scenes or something like that, that's available to all floatplane subscribers. But what we're going to be doing is we're going to be treating all floatplane subscribers but what we're gonna be doing is we're gonna be treating the floatplane digital pass as The $10 tier and the $10 tier will include the digital That are LTX digital pass. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah

We thought about just doing it as like a one-time like like digital ticket, but the reality of it is that that would be development work and this is too but this is more useful for like other things and kind of scales and stuff like that so it makes sense yeah so this is this is this makes a lot more sense and for those of you who are like upset and worried that this is going to be like a cash grab or whatever else you could just subscribe for the one month like that's fine i don't care like do do whatever works for you so then if you're not subscribed at all it's 10 bucks and if you're

subscribed at a different tier like if you're at the three dollar og tier for example it's seven dollars and then if you're an og once you're an og forever so you can always yeah you can go back to your downgrade back to your three dollar tier so yeah hey there you go right cool not too bad not too bad your og can theoretically rot if you unsubscribe and cancel your subscription entirely for a significant period of time oh really theoretically oh okay if people email customer support we usually just honor it anyways well that's because customer support here has the make it right directive yeah so like trust me bro it's fine um but it doesn't it doesn't go away if you like move your subscription to your round like your your flag is i love all the people

that are looking at stuff we've done lately and been like yeah i think with you know the things that lmg and the store and everything i've been doing lately, you know, I think that, I think that, you know, they can say, trust me, bro. Now it was never different. It was always the same.

Yeah. We were just sitting in a very like potential energy state with like a bunch of things not released yet and stuff like that. But it doesn't mean that things changed. Nothing changed. Um, Ooh, people are asking what if they paid for the year i just saw that that is complicated um luke we'll figure that out and get back to you sick ha uh got him i can't pick up my phone

or else i'll buzz the stream can you schedule a message for me on monday dan about that if you're paying attention thank you huh. Thank you. Huh. Yeah, that's a... That is complicated. Really good question. Could we just issue a partial refund, like prorated, and then they could sign up for an annual... I'm not committing to anything.

We'll figure something out. All right, cool. Yeah, because the accounting department's going to have to sign off on whatever it is we do. Let me... Oh, man. Let me tell you, figuring out how to handle being able to take canadian cash

at the event and multiple currencies for um for like for pre-orders or for reservations been very challenging very very challenging because the last thing we want to do is create a situation where as as exchange rates fluctuate in the months leading up to the event people who reserve before paid more or something compared to when they get there and but if we peg it now how do we avoid that um how do we do the accounting for these fluctuations? If we took the money then, but then the value of that money changed by X amount between now and then,

it's like really, it's really bad. It's really dumb. Cool. Anyway, this is the LTX exclusive merch. We've got the three designer series desk pads, all of which look amazing. I think the toughest decision here is which two to buy.

Um, then yeah, we've got the tie dye shirt, the tie dye hoodie, uh, the flag. So the idea with the flag is that it's, it's not huge.

It's more for carrying around and like, you know, writing messages on friends that you meet there. Okay. Really cool thing to get signed. Yes, exactly. Yeah. And then we've got the gradient enamel pin. Yeah, okay. Really cool thing to get signed. Yes, exactly. Yeah, sweet.

And then we've got the gradient enamel pin. Yeah, because these shirts aren't super signable. No, not really. Whereas some previous year ones with a silver Sharpie were. So, yeah, that makes sense. I've got people in Twitch chat. Good old Twitch chat. The fluctuations wouldn't be that big.

Yes, they would. What fluctuations? Between the USD and CAD. I mean, yeah, traditionally, no no you're right lately lately i mean i might still have a tab open with it because i've been watching it really closely lately um yeah in the last one month it's gone from uh a dollar 36 all the way down to almost a dollar 33 all the way up to a dollar 37 okay that's huge massive in business terms like three or four cents on the dollar over a span of a couple of weeks how on earth are you supposed to plan around that it's wild try try trying to hire people that want to work remote in other currencies oh yeah cool and negotiate trying to figure out

wages and stuff it's a nightmare absolute nightmare anyways that's ltx it's coming soon super excited genuinely super excited. What else do we want to talk about? Oh, we're supposed to do three merch messages. Dan, hit me! Second here. Segway was too fast for me. My level back up. There we are.

Hey, DLL, what are your thoughts on cheaper versus more expensive motherboard chipsets? Is it worth spending more on a high-end or low-end chipsets? Enough for most people. Chipset? That's really going to depend on your use case. Yeah, it used to matter a lot more because vendors would lock important features, like SLI, for example. You could only run two GPUs on a more expensive chipset.

Not because of any reason other than that, well, if you can afford two GPUs, yous on a more expensive chipset. Not because of any reason other than that, well, if you can afford two GPUs, you can afford a more expensive motherboard. Go f*** yourself, right? Like that was it. That was the entire rationale, right? These days though, man, I mean, the first time I saw a B-series gaming motherboard,

almost 10 years ago now, I think, I was like, really? You know, because the difference in price was not that much between an entry level i guess it would have been p series at the time or had we moved on to z yet for performance i'm not sure but between the entry level performance tier chipset boards and this like high-end b which used to mean business i think if i recall correctly um and this high-end like business chipset board it was like five bucks or something like that i'm going well just just get the get the performance tier board and then get unlocked overclocking which mattered back then because you

could actually get more performance out of your chips because they weren't redlined out of the factory uh but these days frankly if i was spending my money, I can't think of any reason that I would go with a higher tier chipset. Like, yeah, you get more like USB ports or whatever. But when's the last time that you were limited by the number of USB ports on your motherboard? Remember, USB hubs are available for as little as $6. Yeah. I don't like them. Sure.

Do you like running a cable farther down to your computer? Oh, come on. You're not charging devices off your computer. I do. Sometimes. My phone. Okay. Then use the front USB port on your case. case that's gross i don't want to do that

front usb ports are just for like flash drives other temporarily plugged in things it's hilarious that you guys call me out of touch what the hell is that luke what is what i have i have a a usb extension multi-port thingy as well i would just go basic especially on amd where there's no overclocking locks and you can do whatever you want even with the low end stuff the only difference is pci e-lanes which it's like okay yeah how many nvme drives do you actually need um and then uh what's the other difference yeah like more USB ports, which I don't need. Unless there's a particular feature that's only really present on high-end boards that I do need. So one of the things that I use a lot is Thunderbolt because I use optical cables to run my system

in various parts of my house that I have conduit running to and I have optical Thunderbolt cables. I know where you're going with this. Just stop. The point is, if there's a particular feature that only happens to be present on high-end chipset boards, then yeah, I guess by all means, spring for it. But otherwise, no, there's no real reason to do that.

Okay. Cheat a d***, Luke. Worst takes. Oh, I've got one here for luke uh this is from steve luke if you had the opportunity to use your development team for another company's product or project which would possibly take time away from floatplane but would provide a bunch of revenue would you do it i mean he does it every day they don't only work on floatplane.com. Yeah. It's more of like an internal development team at this point.

It's like amazing. Yeah, the company that is floatplane does a lot of different things. A ton of different things. We have considered being a dev house for outside companies before. This was a long time ago. And it's a hard sell just because we have so many internal opportunities to work on things to make things better to to expand what we do in general like there's there's so much that we have to do in-house um that it

hasn't made a lot of sense to like kind of of like share with an outside company, if you know what I mean. Is it possible? Sure. But the way that we would probably do it instead is just make a tool and then like sell or make that tool available for a subscription or whatever. Whatever type of thing makes sense for whatever type of tool it is. Probably wouldn't like do contract work for an outside company. That is a thing that dev houses do and they're very good at it. We're just really great. It's just, it probably doesn't make sense for us. Yeah. Speaking of float plane, uh, there's an exclusive that went up today and I'm not going to name any names and I'm not going to watch this video, but at least

one of these people is probably at least a little spicy. Oh yeah. This is, um, this is where we're posting the full interviews for the what's it like to work at Linus. You read the comments or something or just know the person? Oh no, I just, I just know all these people. I work with them and I'm just very sure that at least one of them will be a little spicy. For those wondering, that's Maria, one of our graphic designers. Riley, who I think you know, he runs TechLinked. And have we announced GameLinked yet? Well, soon he'll be managing the Linked team in general. That's Sarah, the one and only Ms. Butt, also one of our graphic designers,

and that's Tim from the lab. Okay, here comes another one. With Luke calling companies and organizing spinning up their own LLMs, will smaller companies that collect training data and create custom AIs become a new space for startups? Hmm.

Can you rephrase the end of that? Okay, he's basically asking, is companies that aggregate data and then create these highly customized large language models going to be a new space for startups? Oh, yes. And it's already happening. I mean, what's really interesting is OpenAI's CEO came out very recently and said, look, the next frontier is not going to be just building bigger models. It's gonna be it's gonna be building better models yeah and I think you've basically hit the nail on the head I don't need a generalized model that was trained on a quadrillion data points necessarily but you might

need like one model that because a huge problem that we're running into is licensing of data and information so a lot of what LLMs are currently trained on right now include things like pirated books and other things that like clearly they should not have access to. And then there's things that like is maybe a little bit of a gray area, like Reddit posts and stack overflow things and stuff like that, which is currently going through the ever churning process of capitalism to figure out how those companies can try to charge open AI for that access or however that's going to go. So the data set that these things are able to train off in the future is going

to be interesting and it's going to potentially change. The current data sets that are out there are out there because they're open source and downloadable. People have them. You can't take it back at this point, but moving forward, it could change. And there is absolutely space. And this is currently happening for say a medical model that is trained from textbooks or papers from certain publishers. And they have agreements with those publishers in order to have that data. it is trained on all that information for helping to educate medical students all the way up to helping to inform and drive medical science and medical practice at hospitals and universities and everything that is currently happening so making llms that are grounded in one specific

space is totally going to be a thing um and is literally already a thing to a certain degree so yeah awesome okay let's head on to some a rapid fire holy crap i didn't even realize this um but the game linked branding is up oh it looks pretty good yeah we haven't um yeah we haven't announced anything yet apparently people are like yeah line is casually just like leaked an upcoming channel uh yeah so we talked about it before we have we have we have oh okay yeah there you go so briefly oh oh oh oh oh we got it we got this moment nice you think it'll have a 100 000 subscriber plaque before it uh releases a video that'd be kind of fun that's always should we try and do that i mean i'm down guaranteed success it's not that i want to take on jack sucks at life for like, you know

Play button collection or whatever, but like I mean, I'm always I'm always down for another play button for the wall someone someone asked me the other day like Man no, no, it wasn't you it was someone else but I was I was showing my my play button wall We were we were shooting shooting at my house. Oh, we shot Yvonne's AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade this week. Yeah, so one of the crew that was there helping with the shoot was like, oh, yeah, you know, her space looks so nice now and so cohesive. And yours just has all those play buttons on that one wall.

Are you going to put anything on this wall? And I'm like, yeah. More f***ing play buttons. Let's go. Let's go. Are you gonna put anything on this wall? And I'm like, yeah more f***ing play buttons Let's go! Let's go! Apparently it's past a thousand already that makes sense Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Now we just have to do that a hundred times See look how easy it is to get a hundred thousand subscribers Yeah, no problem. Just do that then do it a hundred times and then if you want to get a million

Will you just do that ten more times? And if you want ten million, we'll do it ten more times easy. Yeah, I to get a million will you just do that 10 more times and if you want 10 million we'll do it 10 more times easy yeah i don't know why people think it's so hard slash s slash s we just relax all day it's very easy there's no stress here i'm okay everything's fine the carpet isn't for like laying down when you're completely stressed out and need to think the carpets for just taking naps. That's like half of what people do. It's good for crying as well. Just take a break. Okay, rapid fire?

Come on. Okay, I will rapid fire. You better. Luke and Linus, if given an unlimited budget and only allowed to purchase one single item, what would you buy? It's a really hard one to think about immediately. The biggest piece of gold.

That is a very reasonable answer actually the biggest satchel of money yeah something that's a good investment not gold depreciates google microsoft microsoft yeah that's a better answer i'm gonna Microsoft, yeah. That's a better answer. I'm going to pivot. I don't know, dude. Okay, next. When is part two of the ultimate gaming minivan coming out? Never. No.

No. No. No, we're going to... Okay. Look, if I'm going to have those stupid solar panels on my roof... It does look goofy. And I can hear them when I'm on the highway. It's not very aerodynamic anymore.

Then darn it, I'm going to have that battery system, and I'm going to have those gaming machines. Never mind that my kids all, every single one of them, get really bad motion sickness and probably won't even be able to use it. I want a gaming machine. You can play when we're parked. Yeah. Part two of the NCIX PC is also coming eventually.

I think they're making more progress on that one than on the gaming minivan. Part two pizza heater? No. Gaming pizza oven? Hey, Linus and Luke, what is your opinion on interplanetary file system, or IPFS, as a solution to the centralized internet model.

Have you ever heard of this? Uh, no. It's, yeah. Sorry, me neither. I guess I suck. Okay, next. Since Linus has said before that he rides a motorcycle, have you ever considered making a jacket specifically for riding, or even a normal jacket with slots for slide-in attachment

of riding armor? No, it's hard. How would you navigate finding an investor or pitch to a company for an organic groundbreaking chip and computational method? Sim testing better than anything we have today, power and performance wise. That was a good pitch. That sounds like a pitch to me. Seed investment round incoming. Hey, seed investment.

I get it. Because it's an organic chip. What April Fool's Day video is the most fun to... He also said groundbreaking. Plan or shoot. Ooh. I don't know. They're all so epic and amazing.

I actually, I love April Fool's. It's my favorite thing. Truth about Linus Tech Tips exposed. I unironically really enjoyed when you just threw the computer case outside and then we just left the camera on it for like seven minutes or whatever. I thought that was hilarious.

I know my sense of humor doesn't necessarily align with everyone's, but I thought it was great. Referring to, why is this so hard to, yeah. This was like 2013 April Fools or something. Yeah, here it is. Here's the playlist. line with everyone's but i thought it was great referring to why is this so hard to yeah this was like 2013 april fools or something here it is here's the playlist okay so the joke here love that twitch shirt just filming on the street at the old blingley house is amazing good production values the joke here is that that case i accidentally unboxed it twice yeah so it was it was on the market and relevant for so

long that literally made two videos without realizing it i made a video about it twice doing exactly the same thing like unboxing and kind of giving an overview of it so what i decided to do because we just had one kicking around for some reason maybe for a build or something i don't remember why we had it but i was like haha wouldn't it be funny if i was like lol we're gonna unbox this case and we do it a third time uh so the video is 13 minutes long which would have been a pretty typical length for us to kind of sucker people into thinking that it's a real video uh and then we get as far as taking it out of the box and then wait for it wait for it it's a linus classic moment yeah that was on purpose by the way you can tell because i'm a very bad actor yeah not as bad as luke but very bad it's true

and then and now we play the waiting game We play the waiting game. And then we just film the case in the rain for like 10 minutes or something. And people, a bunch of people like hated this. I thought it was so funny. I loved this so much. It's literally just the whole rest of the video. So the thing. That is amazing amazing that's art yeah so the thing is

this uh timeline thumbnail feature didn't exist then yeah yeah yeah yeah so people would watch yeah to say that people weren't that thrilled um yeah people didn't really like it but it's like actually one of my favorite ones just cuz I just my sense of humor Just really enjoys that Okay, so hold on a second where wait with that where that playlist go oh Seriously, you know, how is this navigation? So bad I do clicked on it. Okay, yeah, here it is.

So here's the playlist. Oh, okay. Wait, what? No. The playlist was too down. Oh. Dang it. I can't see my screen.

This mic is in front of it, okay? Here it is. There, yeah. Playlist. Okay, pause. Okay, this is what I was supposed to do. I blame the user, pepcac. Okay, 2016.

That was when we made the video claiming we'd been bought out by NVIDIA. The number of people that- Ah, believed that. In terms of believability, I think this might've been the strongest one because it was a completely straight face delivery of something that, I don't know,

on the surface of it could kind of make sense. NVIDIA wanting a media company as part of their portfolio or something. And the number of it could kind of make sense and video wanting a media company as part of their portfolio or something. And the number of people, so part of our, part of our April fools planning is that I tend to lean into some kind of conversation or some kind of topical to a certain degree perception. And at that time,

one of the big narratives that existed for whatever reason was that i had my lips wrapped firmly around nvidia's throbbing ego and so i basically went okay well given that people believe this anyway why don't we give them what they want and claim that we've been outright purchased by nvidia and so the number of people that believe this one was probably the highest out of any um the following year this one did pretty well that this one didn't take a lot of planning i just like wrote it up it's only a two minute video it's pretty quick this one took no planning so you asked which one was the most fun to plan um this one was really fun to plan because it involved pyrotechnics which i I always love. That was real fire in the video. Man, the number of comments insulting our VFX,

talking about what a poor job we did of the fake fire. It's like, take off your tinfoil hat. It's literally real fire. You ain't as cool as you think you are. That is actual fire. And it's not like we did anything really weird or complicated. We just took a can of hairspray and just lit it and blew it through the the grate in the door you're not you're not clever you're not you're not seeing

through the like that's like someone who's seen too much vfx yeah maybe and not enough actual real fire yeah i guess i'm like wait this doesn't look like my vf. That's bad. It must be bad VFX. No, it's just fire. Chill out. The fire pole one was kind of fun, but very last minute. The execution was not that great. I think that's probably my least favorite. You and I actually went down it. You know what?

This is my favorite. The concrete-cooled PC. That was pretty sick. I didn't get to be as involved in the planning of this one. I love the OnlyFans one, but I think the concrete PC was my favorite because that was one that I pushed hard for.

What one do you think is the best? Because I think the actual execution and the end result of the product of the We Need to Talk potato farm was like... Outstanding. Very, very good. It's definitely the best production value one. In terms of which one was most profitable, that's got to be this review gets stranger and stranger.

The never-ending segue where every sponsor did pay us for it. It's unbelievable. stranger the never-ending segue where every sponsor did pay us for it it's like unbelievable but i still love the concrete cooled pc one because everyone internally was like this is too stupid nobody will believe this and the number of people that legitimately were like how'd they do that i'm surprised this worked and i've read a lot of comments i can tell the difference between the ones who are playing along and the ones that are definitely not just playing along a significant number of people believed we cooled a pc with concrete asked follow-up questions we're legitimately curious to learn more about it and we did such a good job of matching the color of the milk

to the concrete and the way that we filmed it the way we filmed good job of matching the color of the milk to the concrete and the way that we filmed it, the way we filmed it out of order to kind of movie magic, the whole thing together. I was on set with Alex the whole time filming it. And he was telling me the whole time, this is not going to come together. I'm like, no, I have a vision this time. Just trust me. Trust me, bro.

And then at the end, he's all right all right that's pretty sweet okay ready for a few more yeah okay let's switch back to potential here my family uses iMessage to discuss important info and many of my non-social media friends use group text as sm uh tips for those who are trapped by apple stubbornness to use RCS. EU USB-C type law for RCS. Use Signal? Now he's got to convince his parents to move over too. That's...

I'm getting a little fatigued on the amount of different messaging things that I have and needing to remember how every individual person likes to be contacted fine here's my folder of all my messaging apps oh i yeah it tires me out a little bit here here name anyone and i'll tell you where i talk to them uh no all right since you're so close to alberta and make a decent and fairly priced versions of whatever you set your mind to, can we please get an LTT cowboy hat? No. I should offer it a little bit more. I shouldn't just because I tend to focus our product development efforts on things where we

are passionate and feel that we have something to contribute to add something to contribute. I think there's a lot of people who are passionate about cowboy hats and make really great cowboy hats and power to them. We have a store like literally, legitimately, basically down the street from here that sells that kind of stuff but that's not a thing that we're exactly known for you know so yeah hey guys love the show watch it religiously question for luke i am currently i have two budgies and they provide endless entertainment what are some of your favorite moments as a bird owner i was just thinking you put a little knock to a fan in the back.

There you go. That's what you can add. Make it out of alpaca fur. What is my favorite thing that they do? What's your favorite bird memory? Favorite bird memory is pretty easy. Okay, I'll answer that one. Our first bird, taquito, was a fire um near my apartment like a i don't remember if it

was a forest fire or it was the it's another more different fire that i'm not going to specify because i don't want to i want to give away where i'm at uh but there was a fire that was leaving a lot of smoke in the air and a solution that i came up with was uh to bring the the bird in the cage and everything into the bathroom and then run the shower so that there was a little bit of a barrier and the moisture in the air and the shower would pull particular yeah so that was the plan um and i i didn't know what to do i didn't know if he was gonna freak out um because he's like had never been into my room let alone the bathroom attached to it had never been next to a shower all this type of stuff but I put the cage down I just lay down next to the

cage and I'm just like I play music that he likes and he was just stoked he was like oh sick we're gonna hang out oh that's cool and he just like played around and sung songs and was just happy and cool about it and that was just that was a. I tend to, if you listen to me tell stories about anything, I tend to enjoy the ones where there's a large conflict and we are able to overcome. We win. Yeah. All right. Next. Oh, give me one more. You want one more?

Yes. Okay. One more. Um, hi future me. i would love to see a way to listen to the show like an audio podcast on float plane for when i am driving is there some audio podcast that you are listening to on a regular basis oh that wasn't where i thought that was gonna go me too uh that was a that was a statement we could upload an audio form of the for sure that's possible yeah can we can we do that that would just have to be process involved who does that don't we support audio yes yeah so we would just have to someone would have to you know yeah do it but that's like a linus media group process not a float plane process that has to be changed right yeah i think there was something on my to-do list to like look at

the podcast for like workflow uh i'll see if i can automate that okay uh typing okay cool because you can also like edit the post afterwards and add it okay yeah it would just do like an auto-generated why don't we do a topic while you uh work on that then okay i'll get that done by the end of the show uk regulators have blocked the microsoft activision blizzard deal yeah which like might be a good thing i don't know i don't know enough about this but the reason for it was kind of funky yeah that doesn't make a ton of sense to me yeah um so i'm trying to find this i'll read through it once i find uh there it is um uk regulators have blocked microsoft's proposed acquisition of activision blizzard

on the grounds that it will reduce competition in cloud gaming, which is the competition and markets, which, which the competition and markets authority sees as a low cost alternative to consoles. Sure. Cause it sort of is, uh, Microsoft does control around 60 to 70% of the cloud gaming market, which is less than 1% of the total global gaming market. However, regulators cited estimates that it will grow to around 9% of the market by 2026. I haven't seen a ton of things moving that direction, to be completely honest.

Yeah. So I don't know where that number is necessarily coming from but nine percent would be a lot of the gaming market to be happening over the cloud instead of like that would have a very major that would have a significant impact on web traffic yeah like that's genuinely okay that's a that's a big number that i i would kind of bet against to be completely honest um again i don't know if this should happen or not. I'm not weighing in on that. I just, the reasoning seems funky. Blizzard has been struggling with ugly labor disputes and their stock prices dropped 11% after the announcement

was made, while Microsoft's own stock rose by 8%. I'm surprised it's honestly that low. They've been kind of killing it. An Activision spokesperson has said that they will work aggressively with Microsoft to appeal the decision and that the UK is clearly closed for business. Is that a sex thing? Work aggressively together? That sounds like a euphemism. I do know this is...

Like if I said I was going to work aggressively with you, what would you think of that? I mean, I'm down hr is not needed if there's no problem um i do know blizzard is having a problem right now where they're losing a lot of talent uh apparently they hired people during covid um that like was under the stand under which were hired with the understanding that they were full-time work from home permanently. Right. And then they have called them into work. So some of these people were hired

living nowhere even near to Blizzard. And now they need to come into work, which there's problems with that. Yeah, because if they don't live near a Blizzard, they probably don't have snow tires already. Relocating your entire family is an issue. Now these people might have to live in much higher cost of living areas higher temperature areas based on where blizzard is that's actually very likely true for for where these people are are probably coming from um but yeah it's an issue so a lot of those

people are just saying like no uh see see ya, I quit, I guess. That's a really rude hand gesture in some places, but okay. Is it? Peace? This is peace. Did you do it backwards? You didn't show the back of your hand, did you? What does it mean? We gotta blur that.

Inform me. Don't worry about it. Okay. I genuinely don't know. Anyways, they're saying peace and then leaving. Man, it shouldn't even be allowed for two gestures to be that similar, and one of them's cool and one of them's not. That's ridiculous.

Well, I mean, what was it okay and white power being the exact same hand gesture but just the orientation if you do scuba diving come on if you do scuba diving it's like oh well i mean it's so dark i can't tell what color any of us are down here oh man um in the uk the backwards peace side is a middle finger why i don't anyways moving on um yeah so a lot of them are quitting so they're having this huge like brain drain talent issue and it's kind of weird because a lot of actually good things for blizzard in regards to development and getting timelines underway and roadmaps and all this kind of stuff happened over the COVID period with all these people working from home. So like, I don't know, but yeah. Ooh, Colorado confirms farmers' right to repair.

Colorado is the first state to pass a law guaranteeing farmers the right to repair their own equipment. Manufacturers will be required to provide parts, embedded software, firmware, tools, and any relevant documentation to equipment owners and independent repair providers. Failing to provide these resources will be considered a deceptive trade practice under Colorado law. Very good. Very good. law very good very good manufacturers will no longer be allowed to discourage owners from making their own repairs or require independent repair providers to undergo any kind of certification to become an authorized repair provider so it just has to be you know free market and you have to be a good repair provider, and have a good reputation, and business will come, and that's how it's supposed to work.

John Deere stated that the law is unnecessary. Oh, yeah. And will have unintended consequences for its customers. Well, yeah, unintended by you. We know what your intentions were, you jackasses. John Deere is facing a class action lawsuit for alleged monopolization of repair services as well as several antitrust lawsuits.

Now, I can't wait for this to come for the McDonald's ice cream machines. Well, there's actually like a bunch of, do you know about that? Some contract that they have? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. There are currently 15 other states with pending right to repair legislation for farmers and colorado has recently passed another law ensuring the right to repair motorized wheelchairs oh cool like i'm really thinking about that but that totally makes sense

is this finally happening slowly but maybe i keep hearing whenever this type of stuff happens i keep hearing like oh yeah right to repair win and then a few days later you hear like uh yeah but it's bad yeah this one's the same bill they snuck in a bunch of stuff this one seems like it might actually be good it seems yeah which is really really exciting yeah it's good yeah float plane chat all my homies hate monopolies 100 exactly last topic i think no i'm bored of that one okay i think it's boring all right let's switch to after dark all right you ready dan people on lmg clips are super confused about what about when show after dark because it's really dark sometimes? Yeah, because there's just a clip and it's just dark. Yeah, they don't know about WAN Show After Dark yet. So our WAN Show homies who actually watch the show,

you know, if you see people confused, help point them toward the light, or, well, the dark. Yeah. Point them toward the answer. How overwhelmed are the message boards today dan a little bit overwhelming you did a couple segments where i had to not be at my desk um but i almost got through it and now we're here uh so towel sales are up 7867 that makes sense where does that number come from no seriously though how do you derive that from 239 units i bet you it's an average over time and we ran out of stock of the other ones right yeah so it

would have been zero for a very long time maybe we sold one not zero before then in the last you know three months so then it's like point something yeah okay yeah that makes sense cool uh most popular items today you didn't ask but i'm answering it for you our towels you guys are super into the towels being restocked you know what that's probably a combination of also people having yeah back in stock notifications uh screwdriver always popular uh northern lights t-shirt yeah the northern lights t-shirt is gonna be a killer it's a good design yeah um then a bunch of freebies animal sticker packs uh what else we got here screwdriver bit sets we sell so many more bit sets than i imagined

we would i just kind of thought most people would be like yeah i don't know it's a screwdriver i'll just use whatever the bits are coming nope nope the attach rate on bit sets is like over 30 i think it's like 40 or something like that yeah it's wild um backpacks oh right that makes sense because we were doing the promo today um free sequin pillow is that towel actually white someone's asking if it's actually white or gray it looks actually white to me i would say that is i think we should update the color on the site to say actually white yeah i i kind of like that name for uh i kind of like that name for uh just you know a white you know it's like uh it's a great way to describe a karen you know all right dan hit me sure just, just give me a second.

Okay, all right, first up. Linus, what amount per month would it take to have YouTube Premium remove all ads, both AdSense and in video? I'm starting to see videos with 50% ad reads, not LTT. YouTube Premium is supposed to get rid of ads. Well, it would be irresponsible of me or not irresponsible. It would be dishonest of me to not bring up that there is a solution to that problem. Um, it doesn't work on every platform, but there's a third party extension called sponsor block that will actually remove self-promotion, uh, baked in advertising. Obviously as a content creator, I'm going to give you the other

side of that coin you know I can't speak for everyone else but I will say that we're always trying to find a good balance of talking about services we offer like floatplane talking about the merch on LTT store talking about our the sponsors that help make our production possible. Not everyone finds the right balance, but they also might be going through harder times than you know. They might need it. So as I've said in the past,

and as I will continue to say because nothing other people say about it really changes anything, you just, you gotta understand what you're doing. If that's the price of admission that they set for the content, then if you want to consume that content, they're the ones who set the price. There's also nothing that they can do to prevent you from just, you know, pressing the arrow key. Like that's another really quick way of skipping something if you don't want to watch it. No one can force you to watch something that you don't want to watch. So yeah, you just got to weigh how much you want to

support the creators that you watch. And presumably this is creators you watch, right? Because otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up with me. And how much you are willing to not support them, knowing that if you don't support them at some point, they could go away or their model could shift and they might not be able to make the content that you're apparently enjoying. Okay, up next. Oh, I didn't actually answer the question. Oh, yeah, you're supposed to do that.

What amount would it take per month? I think the best way for me to answer that is to refer back to our How does lmg make money 2020 update so we've got a breakdown here uh here we go i hate that the preview doesn't take you like see this preview that doesn't take you to before that image. I consider that a bug. That should take you to before that image that you will see that image. Anyway, 20 to Oh, oh, shoot, it's not done yet. Do we? When do we fill out the whole thing? Gosh, darn it, Linus. get on with it. Here we go. Okay. So right now, 18%, oh, this is 2016.

There's 2020. Thank you. It's great. It's a good, good platform. Good, good video, good content creator. All right. So in 2020, 26% of our revenue was AdSense, with 27% being in-video sponsor spots and sponsored projects. So based on this alone, I would say that there would be absolutely no need for us to have in-video sponsor spots or sponsored projects, which both kind of fall under sponsored videos, if our CPMs were triple what they are. With that said, I don't think that content creators would necessarily see it that way. Like if YouTube came to us and said, yeah, we're going to triple your payout. I think that, I mean, I can't speak for everyone, but I think that for myself, I would go sick. Let's hire more people and build more, right?

So I wouldn't necessarily stop making sponsorship spots or you know float playing reads or whatever else into our videos uh i'd probably just try to build it build it bigger i feel like that will always be linus's answer um yeah i i gotta be me we we had a call earlier this week with with a company who was very very surprised at the amount of stuff that we do and the amount of like collaboration between teams that we need they were like we have literally never seen this and i'm like yeah it's not surprising but we still need this to work yeah i'm going to leave it vague like that but like yeah i i think if there's opportunity to do more stuff, it's pretty much always going to be taken. As long as it's reasonable, I guess.

Okay, next up. What's your favorite memory of experiencing new tech? Did anything blow your mind for the first time you saw it? Thanks for the great content. He's going to say VR. Actually, no. I had a different thing i was gonna say but i was fighting between the two of them in my head the the bing chat reaction that we had on when was like pretty sick yeah certainly recently that's my favorite memory though that's the biggest mind absolutely blown moment yeah i mean god there's been so many and and there's

different ways for your mind to be blown right like my mind was very blown the first time I was able to game in stereo 3d yeah yeah having that at home in my lifetime wasn't a thing that had existed and in such a such a compact manageable package like that band Batman Arkham As asylum 3d vision was sick and then the fact that you could do it with projectors like wow so cool um but like sometimes i'm just blown away by the value of something you know like what about what about the the the bang for the buck of the 8800 gt i mean I don't think anything will ever touch it again. 8800 was a hell of a time.

It was a wonderful time for PC gaming. Oh yeah. It was good. Future felt bright. Yeah, but then like recently man, we were doing this small form factor build. The video's not up yet but it's coming soon. But I forget what the watch of it is, but it was like a 1200 watt power supply.

And it's like this big. What? Right? Like, I don't know. My entire job is basically to get my mind blown on a regular basis. Yeah. It's no wonder I'm always so relaxed

and such a good mood. Hit me again. You're also very honest. All right. Next up, Luke and Lin linus what are your thoughts on game devs hosting old but still popular multiplayer games like team forces 2 without anti-cheat updates and instead relying entirely on modded and community support this might not be taken super people might not like me for this is what what I should say. But sure, it's better than them taking everything out and offlining the game completely. It's not like the best solution. If there's a lot of people still playing your game, I would like to see it supported.

But when was TF2 first launched? Oh my God, like 15 years ago or something like Orange Box 2007. It was launched before Orange Box. 2004 then maybe no 2007. yep october 10 2004. wait no that is the orange box it wasn't launched with orange box yeah it was 2004 was half-life two half, wait, hold on. It was launched alongside Portal, wasn't it? These are like the only two dates that I know. Yeah, Portal came out in October 2007. Oh, wow, it was with Orange Box?

I thought it existed before Orange Box. No. Crazy. Okay, well, never mind then. Yeah, it's been a lot of years. I think it would be quite the stretch to expect companies to support games for longer than that yes it still has a big player base but then are you asking companies they're also still making money on that game so i do expect support but go on are they what are they talking about hat trading simulator yeah they they sell the

hats you can buy them i think so i thought they were just like random loot i don't know i don't have to buy unlock keys unlock crates to unlock the crates and you buy keys yeah and i think there's also crafting if they're still profiting off of it like damn yeah they should still support it properly yes 100 yeah um if they're not profiting off of it anymore um then it is what it is at least they're keeping it up there and they have the availability of people being able to patch things that's great yeah apparently it's big for gambling oh great Great. All right. Next one.

Another one. Hey, LLND and future me. I always watch the show the next morning, but do you think there's any good way to have a town square social platform that truly reaches everyone and can be a public utility? In my utopian nirvana, yes. In order for it to be a public utility, it would actually have to be publicly owned. So it would have to be government run.

And to be government run and still viable, it would have to be efficient, which is sort of a contradiction, right? So we want it to be run with the efficiency of a cutthroat for-profit enterprise, but we want it to have the the openness of a publicly funded entity like a library or a school um no i don't neither i don't see a path to that i mean i would i would have liked to believe that you know through something like

blockchain technology you you could build something like that, but the crypto community has been really busy building Ponzi schemes. So they haven't really had time for... It's super sick that no one cares about NFTs anymore, though. I do enjoy that. It's very fun. Has anyone created a, like,

a how much did they lose website that just has a summary of like that would be very entertaining who lost the most money on nfts that would be sweet more more more yeah i don't yeah i really just don't see a solution and anyone who thinks that the current solution on twitter is an actual solution is has missed the boat is it better than not is it better than not having it absolutely not having like one ego driven billionaire who's the arbiter of you know what is what is truth and what is you know right um is is not actually not a solution that's that that's that's actually medieval like no yeah next one yep hey dll you pretty much have a rapid prototyping team for anything you can

think of with the specs of four framework modules being open source what's a module you'd like to make looking forward to LTX oh man I don't know my framework laptop already kind of does everything that I need it to do other than you know oh it'd be great if someone could make a way to plug an RJ 45 jack into it without it having a you know butt hanging off of the bottom yeah great like that would be awesome but i don't have a solution for that at least not anything durable so i don't know i can't think of anything particularly it has the modules that i would want if i was configuring one it has the things that I would want. Yeah.

No, like, cup holder or anything? Cup holder? I mean, they're this big, Dan. What kind of cup are you going to put in it? It expands out. Next up. Okay. Luke and Linus, what is a past purchase price that you often compare new purchases to or that was particularly good value?

Two of mine were a ps3 for three hundred dollars and test three morrowind for one dollar so this includes deals my perception of value crystallized and i think about 1996 when a a candy bar from the dollar store cost $1. Yeah. And so nowadays, I basically can't get myself to buy snacks unless they're like a buck or maybe like $2. It's very funny. Or I have a really hard time with it. It's very funny to me that you brought up the candy bar for a dollar thing because a can of pop being a dollar, a candy bar being a dollar,

and gas being like under a dollar is singed in my brain. Yeah. If I see a chocolate bar that's more than a dollar, which is all of them. No, it's not. Really? Yeah.

In the packs at like Superstore, they're like 80 cents. Oh, but you have to buy like a bunch of them, right? Yeah. Okay. But I'm talking like a single one. I'm just saying a dollar candy bar is absolutely still a thing sustainable yeah i but when i see that on the shelf single chocolate bar especially when they're like 250 yeah when you get like the fancy ones i just

immediately they're just like oh i used i used vending machines until about grade eight and that's when they moved from a dollar to a dollar 25 for a soda and i was like that's too much i guess i just don't drink this anymore it's probably good yeah yeah that was the best thing that ever happened to me was vending machines machine prices going up increasing past one loony yep okay up next linus with call me Me Chris moving because of stalking, all accredited to her showing her place in a house tour, has this changed your mind about how you shoot videos at your home? Not really.

I mean, I am not subject to the same kind of, I guess, scrutiny that Chris is, which is very lucky. I'm very grateful for that. I don't know whether it's audience composition or being male or being a tech channel rather than something where people form more intense parasocial relationships, some combination of all those factors,

other factors I haven't considered. But the address of my place of work has been common knowledge for eight years um i ain't hard to find nobody does it which is good and right i mean that type of thing has been true for a long time, like TV stations. I mean, you could literally often walk behind the glass on the ground floor of TV stations and wave into the camera. This type of stuff has been possible for a while. And most people are not creeps. Yeah, most.

They exist, but yeah. But some of them are, and I'm very, very grateful to our community for not being awful people. Yeah, no, I can't say it's really changed my mind about anything, because if I couldn't make videos about what I'm doing, would you even watch them? That's the whole point, right? It's YouTube. It's not whole point right it's youtube it's not fabrication tube right yeah it's a really bad situation though you want to get a better paint job at the new place yeah we can only hope chris if you're watching i will happily i will happily help you out

with your painting the last collab was fantastic so that'd be fun yeah i'm down well we won't build a computer this time because that was painful but we'll paint more yes yeah yeah i mean this is the rest of the show dan you gotta prompt me heather i keep interrupting you um no no you're good just talk over us you're trying to get this thing done right yeah sure yeah boss okay uh wondering how the pool at linus's house is coming along i curated this i certainly didn't wait there you go oh oh you gotta you gotta blow a raspberry as well. Jeez. So yeah, how's it going? Sounds good.

I'm sure perfectly. If everything goes according to... This is a very first world problem, but it's just a ridiculous problem. Instead of laying all the tiles one way, some of the tiles on the sides go this way, and the tiles on the ends go that way. They offered to redo it it and we're just like No, just

If everything goes according to plan it will be ugly but finished in three weeks I don't believe it. I've heard this before. Oh, yeah, I I Don't know. I'm on the fence man man i don't know whether to name and shame these guys at the end i'm very tempted though they've basically done every scummy contractor trick in the book um and some that weren't in any books that i read because i don't read in polite books like that i like to a certain degree, I think you probably should. Well, here's the problem.

Because they shouldn't be able to do that. I want them to never do business again. Yeah. Right? Like, based on what's gone on. But here's the thing. Based on what I've gleaned about their operation and what I can assume to be at least a reasonably accurate guess, can assume to be at least a reasonably accurate guess. I think that they are in dire straits right now and are using funding from one project to work on another and then collecting money from

that and then using that to continue to work on the other. And they're kind of bouncing around between job sites right now. So if I destroy their means to collect any more money at all, i destroy their means to collect any more money at all um i could be ultimately screwing over some of those clients as well do i have a responsibility for that collateral damage he has to throw up just thinking about he's very conflicted feeling right now he's oh what did you eat not on the carpet disgusting not on the carpet what that's my crying carpet oh were you insinuating i was like farting or something throwing up ah yes very stinky um yeah i don't know but at the same time they could be acquiring new customers yeah so then it's a tough spot to be in for sure if they in good faith are just going through a

bad time and trying to use the new customers to get everything done and they're like gonna try and get caught up do you think that's what's happening no yeah because it doesn't seem like it yeah i don't think so i don't know. It's rough. Yeah. Okay, next up. Hi, LLD. I work in an environment with very few tech-savvy people and a lot of efficiency issues. How would you approach trying to get through the resistance

to tech we experience with publishing? Huh. With publishing? I don't know. You just kind of have to wait for people to retire out at a certain point like people are people can be pretty set in their ways and it's not constructive but there's a there's this i i forget what this you know law or this bias or whatever it's called, but there's sometimes a lot of justifiability to the, well, if it ain't broke, don't fix it approach. We create a lot of inefficiencies by just throwing more tech at the problem, right?

It cuts both ways, but largely you're probably right that a little more tech would go a long way but how to fix it i don't know it's tough i was actually meant to make this a topic um and maybe i'll hijack this message and turn it into a topic right now but i went to uh nasa houston yeah last technically sort of weekend and also earlier this week. I wasn't going to say it because I wasn't sure if you were going to talk about it for whatever reason, but it sounded like a sick trip. Absolutely amazing.

Absolutely incredible. The people that brought us down there, the two main people that, well, the main person who reached out is a part of the Mission Control Center Design Group. Sick. It has a different name. i believe it's called flight operations but basically they design so each mission has a slightly different mission control center because they're going for like these crazy efficiency levels and there's different demands and all this type of stuff so they will design a new mission control center for every mission and i sort of thought that there was like one and like i know like spacex has one but i thought nasa had like a mission control center i don't

know why i thought that i just did no there's like a bunch oh they're all in the same building but there's a bunch and when you walk through them they are they're a little bit different because they're slightly different demands and these people have to try to push new tech onto these operators that will have to now train on this new tech and use it. So this might be someone who has worked this one very hyper intense. We talked about like the things that they have to do.

You have to listen to the loop of all conversations going on and pull out keywords that might involve something that you have to do. So you're constantly listening to multiple conversations at a time and have to be operating at like really, really high levels. Life critical level. Yeah. Just your whole shift. Really, really intense. So like if you want to push a new keyboard setup.

Sure, yeah. You're going to tech Dvorak now. Yeah, like, there's probably going to be a lot of resistance. And with pretty good reason. You might have good reasons too, right? This is more efficient. We think you can do it this way. So you can get this thing done with slightly less clicks.

You can do whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This mouse is faster, whatever. But if something is battle tested already there's a lot of resistance because i mean it's not broken and like lives are on the line lives and billions of dollars so like it's tough very very interesting conversations i think you should absolutely go make videos there i met a person, talked to them about it. They're interested. What I really want to do is the first manned mission to either to go around the moon or to land on the moon. I want to have you work with these mission control center designer guys to make a video on how you design the like computer and electronics and networking and video feeds

and everything for a mission control center for a manned launch Which is like way more intense than an unmanned launch to be clear Luke is not a moon landing denialist. He meant the first moon landing mission in a long time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sorry Sorry, sorry. Well, okay. What I was really talking about was the first one where they set up a base I just I'm sure I said it poorly. I'm a little bit too excited because it was an extremely fun trip Yeah, you guys but yeah, they were talking about like the difficulties there but also the understanding that like there's reasons why these people would push back and it is actually a good thing because you kind of end up in the middle balance and they are constantly like they have

this one display which is a like control center from like uh i shouldn't say a control center uh an individual person's control unit in a mission control center they have one like three of them from three different generations yeah and like you can see the similarities between like the first ones that they have and the ones that they have now yeah but they have made a lot of been evolutionary changes yeah yeah i mean I guess having that push and pull is a very natural thing. Like, it's kind of like how, you know, we have departments that are incentivized,

that are given incentives that are opposed to each other. You know, for example, the business team has the objective of generating as much sponsorship revenue as possible. But the content team has the objective of getting as many revenue as possible. But the content team has the objective of getting as many views as possible. Well, surely the most profitable thing would be to just upload sponsor read after sponsor read.

And the most viewable thing would be to have no sponsors whatsoever and just make whatever you want. So you've got to kind of... You need this back and forth to land in the right spot. So it's very interesting. And the writing team has output targets, but then I have quality targets,

and so does the editing team. And so it's like, well, yeah, sure, we could output more, but we can't output that, so you're going to have to go back to the drawing board then. Yeah. Yeah. Luke denies lunar lunar landing confirmed yep I just said it wrong so I believe in the moon wake up sheeple Samsung proved its fake captain Rand in full plane chat said 75%

of the planet is water and none of it is carbonated the earth is flat i thought that was really funny that's uh that's the first time i've heard that that's amazing okay wow but yeah that was an actually incredible trip there's a few other ideas that i have for for content pieces you might be able to make around that uh but we'll we'll talk later but they're all like super cool. I was trying to pitch AV1 because like, you know, network connections can be kind of rough. But there's like a lot of issues he was talking to me about. And this totally makes sense. But radiation in space is like way more of a problem. Right. We have issues down here when there's like a solar flare.

You might have bit flips. Yeah. Well, they have those problems like just all the time. Right. And they have like space like just all the time. Right. And they have like space weather experts that can try to predict this stuff coming up, but it still doesn't help you from a bunch of bit flips all happening at the same time.

Right. And like there's also cosmic radiation that comes from not just the sun, so you can't necessarily see it coming. And they set up systems where like they'll have three computers doing the same things and they'll vote on a result instead of just having one computer control it so like if two of them agree or hopefully all three of them agree then you can be pretty sure that it's good but it's decently common that one of them will be like a bit flipped and just be

like oh this other thing so i just very interesting the type of problems that they have to deal with you which you might not necessarily expect um but apparently av1 is an issue because of licensing agreements all this type of stuff i don't know anyways yeah dan and darren um we're working on an x-ray machine you're what for the lab yes yeah i want one thank you awesome yeah all right my whole thing with the lab is I never want the excuse to be you didn't give us the proper equipment don't don't say that publicly I already did no say it again I never want the excuse to be that I didn't give you the proper equipment good that's a great approach yeah I love I love it. Okay, next up.

Hello, Linus and Luke. I recently inherited a micro cloud server, the Supermicro 939-20. 12 rails with two Xeons, RAM, and storage on each rail. Any ideas what I should do with it in my home? Is that 24 CPUs? What are 12 12 rails 12 individual blade servers yeah i was gonna say i think it was just oh he's got 12 individual servers with two xeons in them each um wow uh micro cloud it looks like it's a for you unit uh wow yeah so i can't even find that model 939-20 yeah i i cannot find that um and the idea is what i should do with it for my home with that kind of power consumption no i might i mean you could use one of them as like uh you know a plex server or something maybe but the reality of it is like uh you know you could

definitely use them for learning still you know if you wanted to um like if you wanted to just learn about storage and configure them or if you wanted to use them to create a whole bunch of clients and learn about Active Directory. Like, I don't know. There's a reason people build home labs. But in terms of practical use for it, pretty hard to say. I'm going to jump back. Sorry. I'm excited about this topic.

Someone in Fullplane chat said they use specialized power PC processors that are radiation hardened and are manufactured on older process nodes um i think some of them are based on the power pc g3 which was also used in a 1998 imac yeah so we didn't talk about the specific processors but we did talk about how some modern process nodes can be an issue because when they have a bit of radiation come in that's going to flip a bunch of bits. Having the transistors further apart can actually help less data problems, right? Right. That makes sense. Very interesting. Also, they were talking about how just in general, a lot of older hardware has less

problems with radiation. That makes sense. For a bunch of different reasons. Bigger, fatter traces. Yep. And those things not being made. Just bigger, fatter traces. Yeah. That's a thing. And those things not being made is like actually an issue for NASA moving forward. Very, very interesting.

Yeah. So no idea what you're going to make him do with this micro cloud server? I don't want to be a party pooper, but like I said, just probably sell it. Yeah, it's a bit of a ridiculous thing. Hi, Linus. You're the best.

What's your opinion on some of the concept tech products? I really like the Nothing Phone 2 concept. First of all, no. I think I'm all right. But the best is, wow, that's, thank you, but no. Nothing Phone 2. I actually haven't seen this. What's your, on some of the concept tech products? Concept.

What makes it a concept? Concept renders. All right, well, here, let's have a look here. Okay. I mean, yeah, it looks pretty cool, I guess. I don't know which other things you're saying are concept products, but yeah, that looks pretty cool. We can move on, I think.

Sorry. Hello, Luke, Linus, and Dan. Do you think that the work Valve has put into DVXK plus Proton can be applied to macOS? What with the metal-to-vulcan translation layer MoltenVK? Why does Apple lock out gamers? with you it's baffling especially when you consider that on the one hand they do totally recognize that gaming is a huge market and even a huge revenue source for them now uh through the app store through apple arcade i i i i i can't fathom it yeah um especially when like they didn't they own no i don't think they owned bungee but like halo was initially gonna be a mac exclusive yeah they had tons of exclusive games back in the day yeah and now nowadays it's like watching a bunch of you know boomers who have

never touched a video game when they do gaming demos on stage it's bizarre like it wasn't like that if you watch apple keynotes from like back in the 90s they talked about gaming gaming was a thing i i have no idea what happened um as for like a translation layer i mean yeah i guess but i i wouldn't put the work into it honestly by the way i missed something on the store earlier we now have women's v-necks oh cool yeah so this uh sketchy pc design is available in an actual like like, women's shirt. Okay, sorry, that was it. Dan, hit me. Sorry, I was just responding to some more. Let's see.

There are many things I would like to do this year. Despite GPT helping me become more efficient, I am still barely able to get my basic stuff done. How do you manage your time to run LTT plus the other LLCs? Yeah A lot of help right? I have a hundred people that helped me do it. So It's I don't think I do a great job of managing my time these days He agrees but he's busy typing so he's not really listening to what i'm saying no but i do agree like i i don't know i don't know i don't know what

i don't have a solution so i try not to complain about it too much because i've tried to get over that um but yeah it's like impossible to meet about you meet with you about important things uh like the full play meeting this week got canceled it's just like man okay but like i again i don't have a solution for it it's just tough hit me sure um that's all basically all I've got for curated you guys have lots of potentials to go through still let's just start firing through them

okay which end am I eating from? you can go from the bottom if you want okay am I supposed to read them out or not? however you want to do this you can either reply to them via text or supposed to read them out or not? However you want to do this. You can either reply to them via text or we can read them out rapid fire. Interesting.

I don't think we've decided on that. I think while we're doing other merch messages, you guys kind of go through the potentials. By the way, a good suggestion came in through merch messages. We should switch the logo to like a WAN show after dark logo or something cool like that. Yeah, I've already put it on my to-do list to have a look at that. I thought that was great. See Ryan T says, I enjoy WAN show more when there's fewer questions and more discussion about

them. Have you thought about cutting off merge messages halfway through the show and switching to an upvote system? Upvote system is a pretty cool idea. However, the curation that we're doing is not just based on what people want to see, because we end up with a lot of duplicate stuff. We'd end up with a lot of just, you know, what the latest drama is. I think it would really change the tone of merch messages over time

when we're going out of our way to create a particular tone to the discussion. As for switching them off halfway, I don't think we would wanna do that from a business standpoint. We definitely want people to order from LTT store. So turning them off is bad, but I like the idea. I like where it's coming from. I think if we were gonna do an upvote system for questions, we'd probably just do another AMA.

It's been kind of a while. Yeah, something like that could make sense. Yeah. Okay. Well, build an AMA system and then we'll do it on float. All righty then. You could just make a post asking for questions and you could reply to them like a Reddit thread if you wanted. Can I just shout out our team that works on merch messages real quick here?

Team. Yeah, I know. Good job, Conrad. Gotta give credit to the team, you know? I mean, there is other people involved technically. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so this is really cool.

This was sitting in incoming and I almost finished replying to it and someone moved it into potential so it disappeared and that text is still here so all i had to do was add s to my signature and now i have replied to it super cool supposed to be doing potential it's not incoming i am doing potential see they moved it into oh i see yes i screwed that up. Anonymous asks, I'm a 20-something wanting to start a YouTube business. What keeps you going during the difficult times? And if things didn't work out, at what point do you just call it and move on? I can get along being jobless. Okay, what keeps you going during the difficult times? I mean, for me, the biggest thing that gets me out of bed in the morning is that if I don't come here,

other people will have nothing to do and will ultimately lose their jobs. There are definitely times, I mean, when I posted the I'm thinking of retiring video, I probably would have just done it if it wasn't for the responsibility to the team. I was either debt-free or I had being debt-free on the horizon. That is no longer the case. But at that time, I did. And I was feeling pretty unmotivated. But if I quit, then everyone quits, which sucks. That's stupid. So here I am, right? As far as if it doesn't work out, at what point do you call it? I'd say when you stop

enjoying it, because the thing about YouTube is that you've got to find a passion. And like I said in that video, I just had to find a different framing device for my passion. I had to get passionate about something different. And if I hadn't been able to do it, I would have had to call it. So if you're just not passionate about it anymore, there's no way you're going to be able to create passion in others. So it's time to, it's probably time to call it.

Okay, I've got a curated one here for you. Hit me. Hi, DLL. I recently screen shared a chat where we were talking trash about a vendor on a call with that vendor What's your most embarrassing screen share moment? This isn't a screen share but

Something that I used to do when playing. Okay, so this is like Something that I used to do when playing okay, so this is like Back in the day when we used a program called ventrilo this is far before The the discords of the world, but it's it's essentially discord, but a super long time ago kids used mumble There was a there was a run flag that you could put on ventrilo so you could open more than one of them. You could join two different servers at the same time. And if you set up your keybinds in a certain way, you could mic up for one of them and not mic up for the other one.

So if you're playing like Classic WoW in 2004 and you and your buddies are in a raid with 40 other people and you want to be in the comms for the main raid, because you're supposed to be or whatever, and then you want to be in comms with just you and your friends, so you can just talk trash or do whatever, pressing the wrong key bind and saying something could be bad. Right.

Yep, and that happened. Sick. saying something could be bad right yep and that happened sick i actually can't really think of anything right now i've definitely screen shares stuff on when oh yeah oh okay that's that was pretty back to potentials that's the only curator i got okay uh sean asks we just celebrated our dog's first birthday uh might be a little spoiled. Do y'all celebrate birthdays or got ya days for your pets? Uh, no, not personally. Me neither. I actually don't know how old Dash is.

And there's no excuse because we know when she, we knew when she was born at some point. Just like, I don't know. She's a cat. I love her, but she's a kitty. How old is she? Cat? Kitty? Yeah.

Emma likes to tell this story where I was hanging out with her family, and one of her family members asked me how young my brother's daughter was. And I said, under a year old yeah luke and i are not particularly detail-oriented people speaking of which mother's day is coming two week warning ah good for those of you out there who are also not particularly detail-oriented i'm gonna put that in my calendar immediately i didn't know anything was wrong with that response everyone looked at me weird and i was just like what and then she ended up informing me later that like yeah it's it's in months yeah at this point

everyone does up until about 24 months everyone does months because the development is so fast yeah no sure that makes sense. Yep. Yep. Any more in potential? I mean, might as well just read one. Yeah. Yeah. Just find one to read.

Or just scroll to here. Let's see. We're going back to our headline topic. What should they have done to foster more Canadian content creators? Fund it. Like like i'm not against i'm not against funding content but there's got to be a process for um either you know taking content that's starting to snowball and trying to pour gas on the fire or um you know finding people that are in some kind of uh yeah i guess okay i guess for me i i'm not i'm not that into handouts so you know finding people who are or organizations who are already

trying and seeing a little bit of success like have have have gotten the ball rolling a little bit and trying to get balls rolling faster, I guess is where I'd like to see it. I don't think that it should be going to giant established media companies. And I don't think it should be going to people who can't even be arsed to, you know, try turning on their selfie camera

and recording something. I think there's a middle ground there. Okay, here's another one. Job roles say Canada only. Is that a hard requirement? Was looking at the roles and felt like I had the experience, but I'm UK based. Would happily relocate given political reasons. I was typing out a response to this.

Not all of the job roles say Canada only, because some of them are not Canada only. say Canada only, because some of them are not Canada only. There are developer positions that are open to non-Canadian remote work. The ones that do say Canada only, you need to currently, right now, and there's a lot of people that, in my opinion, intentionally misinterpret this, but you need to currently, this exact second, need to legally be able to have a job in Canada. I do not mean you are eligible to apply for immigration. I mean, you are already legally able to have a job in Canada. That is possible without being a Canadian citizen. Almost all the time. It's going to mean that you live here already. Not technically though.

So there is that window of opportunity. Yep. But if you're like a Canadian citizen who's living abroad. Yeah. Or, or there are, there are other weird like work visas. Dennis had a work visa because he went to school here.

Yeah. There's other, there's other situations where that ended up being a nightmare and costing a lot of money and taking a lot of time So like it will very likely hurt chances like I don't know it's It's a huge nightmare if you don't already have the ability to work here So yeah, unless like I already said the role doesn't say that and is open to

working from outside the country what are you gonna go see opening night barbie or oppenheimer barbie no question and neither actually but barbie why not both double feature i don't go to and neither of us really go to movies that often no yeah i saw the super mario movie just because my family wanted to go to and neither of us really go to movies that often no yeah I saw the Super Mario movie just because my family wanted to go yeah and actually they only wanted to go because an other family invited us to go because they were taking their kids so I got dragged along by drag alongs it's the only reason I saw it in the theater otherwise I would have just watched it at home my favorite thing about watching movies in the last like while has been when Linus and I go, which is extremely uncommon.

And the actual favorite part about it is when we just, like, sit in the car afterwards and talk the whole movie. Which, like, if that's the reason you're going, it's almost never going to be worth going. Which Star Wars movie did we do that for i don't remember i can't remember but it was awful i don't i was it the first one no no i don't think so it must have been the second one the second one yeah because it was you know pretty much every week i get into it with david about stupid the the last Skywalker or whatever that stupid movie is called. And he's, he,

he's like, it went places with storytelling and creativity. I'm just like, I know David doesn't have a movie podcast anymore, so he doesn't have a way to defend himself. Uh, well, no,

actually, does he still have one? I think he does. Is it movies still? I mean, he definitely has a podcast still, but it's not here. Anyway, the point is, so I'm definitely taking a cheap shot here, but no, David, it's awful.

It's awful and made no sense. It just did random things. It's the equivalent of elementary school kids being like, mom, it would be cool if this happened. Which one was this? This was the Rian Johnson one, happened which one was this the this was the ryan johnson one the middle so the middle one isn't that the one where they're like they fly now yeah yeah that line will always drive me nuts they already flew that's not a new thing r2d2 flew depending on which headcanon you subscribe to there's a lot of those at this point yeah

maybe it was the third one it must have been the third one that we went off on either i mean they were both terrible i don't remember whatever i don't know what to say yeah that was really loud that knuckle crack oh sorry yikes i'm still having a lot of issues with this joint oh Oh, really? So it gets really tight very often. You tried rolling it? I might need to go get, like, x-rays. There might be actually something wrong with the bone. Oh, really? Yeah.

Because it, like, should have, if it was tendons or whatever, it should have healed by now. Anyways. It's fine. I got another curated here for you. Alright. I have a two-year-old. How did you introduce your children to video games and computers honestly we just kind of made it up as we went along um some of it was out of laziness so we would often give our phones to our son who woke up a lot earlier than us um but

man this was before i had youtube premium i was just it existed i was just too cheap to pay for it uh so he would wake me every time there was an ad so it really didn't get me much extra sleep but we would put on like phonics song um and and all these why would he wake you like nursery because he didn't have the motor skills or understanding to skip yeah he didn't he didn't get it yet so i'm pretty sure that that channel i forget what it's called abc123 or something i don't remember what it's even called but like phonics song phonics song 2 um i could probably still sing these songs like word for word and it's been like eight years i'm traumatized but i'm pretty sure that's a significant part of the reason that our firstborn read like extremely early um and like his numeracy is like still off the charts um so that's probably a predisposition at that point but but he read

extremely early it was really impressive and uh so i have no regrets about that. As for like gaming though, we waited a long time. My rule for my kids has been, you're not really allowed to play video games until you can read. A, because I don't think you need to play video games when you're two. And B, because I don't want to help you. I don't want to just stand there

and like help you navigate a menu or like help you figure out what's going on when you're supposed to be like talking to another character or whatever else. We right now, our system is we make them trade developing their minds in some other way for video game time. So I think it's a two to one trade. So I think if you do half an hour of actual piano practice, then you get an hour of gaming time not just bonking keys yep you have to actually be working on what your teacher said to work on and there's a couple of other things that you can trade for video game time and it seems to work reasonably well for us right now it's a bit of a pain to keep track track yeah but overall i'm pretty happy my kids

you know aren't completely ignorant to technology, but they're also just not constantly glued to the boob tube. Cool. See if we can find one you're not editing. Do you have any experience with Palo Alto firewalls? If so, what are your thoughts? No. Nope.

Any news on shipping for european customers i thought you mentioned a while back you might be looking to make it a better experience we'd love to we'd still love to it's still complicated and still expensive and we still have a lot of other things to work on sorry any updates on products that are under development or that you're excited about? Oh. Don't leak too much. Oh, yeah. Stick locks are coming really soon.

That's really exciting. They're the little joystick covers. Oh, those. Yeah. Yeah, those should be launched imminently. Really excited for those. Didn't even know we were developing those. Yeah, they're really cool.

I have decided to change course in my career, and i'm going into a coding boot camp soon pursuing software engineering do you know anyone that has done something similar and found success luke this one's for you um so it's they they went to a boot camp and now they want a career they're going to a boot camp yeah and they're wondering if this is a good move. Yeah, but it's a very, it's not try to help move you along the path. Um, believing that your first steps are important to be guided. That's in my opinion, the way that you should take it. So from there, you'd still kind of need to build a good portfolio because just having like a lot of bootcamps are various lengths. So I don't know how long that one is, but if you're like, I have a two month bootcamp, uh, that's going to mean effectively

nothing to me if I'm trying to hire you. But if you're like, I have a two month bootcamp and kind of ignore that part, my portfolio is really cool. Look at these things that can mean a lot. Um, I know a few other hiring people, if someone has a degree, at least a bachelor's four-year degree, that's kind of like a check mark to move them forward. And things that equate with that are often portfolio or experience, not some bootcamp thing.

So use the bootcamp to make something cool. And then you can get there. Hi, Luke and Linus. Since you've started producing your own physical products, how has your experience with other physical products influenced your design or development of digital products? Those teams don't work together. I guess you do.

No, I don't think i read that wrong how has your experience with physical products influencer design or development yeah okay yeah of digital ones physical to digital i don't know i mean the i for me it's it's always just i'm very thankful that the customer support isn't as hard for digital ones yeah i mean that that's really good um the only person that crosses those team lines is linus yeah i mean so much of our development is just how i would want it to be and so that's the same whether it's a digital product or a physical product that is true uh yeah okay i got an i got a curated one here that's really cool um completely blind ltt viewer

here love the wan show for my tech news what are your thoughts on the rise of the accessible games for the blind such as the new forza i might be biased but cool stuff how do they do that it has some really cool features that just make it more um no way like high i think there's like a high contrast mode there's microsoft this includes like legally blind so you can still see a little bit microsoft has done a lot they don't do everything right but they've done a lot to push accessible gaming forward and that's super cool every time we talk about it we're just like yes great work do that do more um you know whether i think you know we're all a

little different and whether your difference is obvious from the outside or not. I think gaming is one of the ways that people of all types can come together and enjoy their time together. I mean, we did an executive retreat recently. Mates quit. Yeah. One of the big highlights for me was just all playing games together. all playing games together. You know, I don't,

I think it's a very old fashioned outlook to think of video games as, you know, they're bad for you, rot your brain or whatever. It's a social experience, right? I don't think it's any different from playing a board game necessarily. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. And I think that making that experience

more inclusive is a noble goal and one that might not make sense financially, but that shouldn't matter. You should just do it anyway. I've deeply respected Microsoft's efforts in this regard. I'm not surprised it's happening to Forza because that's a Microsoft title. Their accessibility controller, I don't believe it's called that, but whatever it's called, is like actually an incredible piece of hardware and the fact that they still support it and make it and all that kind of stuff is just wildly cool okay i've got another curated one here hi lld i've been with my significant other for four years and plan on proposing soon

do you have any advice for picking a ring? P.S. Go float plane. I'm going to be honest with you. I am not the kind of person who makes major decisions without my wife. And the ring was a major decision. I mean, that was a really significant amount of money for us, especially at the time. And not even just the money, but the way to do it, whether it's like a metal ring or whether it's tattoos or whether we even want rings at all. And if you're gearing up to spend the rest of your lives together, I think that it's probably a good habit to get into to talk to each other and work together on a solution that makes you both happy so the answer would be to not ask me uh but to but to show a genuine interest and work

with your wife or so or you know whatever whatever title you guys use for each other and and find something that makes you both happy okay we got our last six here if you guys want to push through them um hear the pain in his voice and now you don't have to you can see it on his face i'm okay i don't want to get yelled at anymore uh hey linus i love your commitment to quality and ltt products and that you'd rather do it right and not do it at all or not or that changes the meaning there dan oh okay sorry uh i gotta like have it wider so that i can actually parse these easier um is there anything you credit to uh upbringing etc i wish this was more common you butchered that, man. Jesus.

Let's try that again. Sure. Let's just do that one more time. One more time. Hey, Linus, I love your commitment to quality in LTT products and that you'd rather do it right or not do it at all. Is there anything you credit this to, your upbringing, et cetera? I wish this was more common. I'm a cheapskate, and I hate wasting money,

and I consider anything that breaks too fast or, or sucks for how much I paid for it as a bad value. I consider that to be a waste of money. And if I don't like wasting my own money, then I have to assume that you don't like wasting money either. I would toss in an additional argument, uh, which is that he's going to extensively use anything that we make. If we make shirts, he's going to have to wear them like all the time. Literally every day. I'm also lazy and I hate rebuying things. So if I can have something that just lasts for a very long time, that makes me much happier. Yeah. So I'm, I hate wasting money and I hate wasting time and I consider bad products

to be a waste of money and time. Yeah yeah i recently went back and played my childhood favorite the wii that's when i realized the graphics and tracking were a lot worse than i remember yeah what's your wow this is actually garbage moment uh-huh huh mine's so generic i can do it but it's so generic yeah do it i went back to go play morrowind like over a decade later how many times you told that story i know story oh i told you he's generic wow this was actually garbage i don't know the nostalgia filter is so strong like i went back and played one of the hugo games hugo's house of horrors and it's all it's objectively bad the graphics are terrible the gameplay it's like it's it's uh it's got like a graphical interface uh but it's really a text adventure game and you

know the problem with text adventure games is that without the benefit of a large language model or something like that you often have to just you have to just sit there for the right keyword and find yeah the exact right way to steal key take key put arm through hole and remove key like it is very frustrating but i still i kind of get joy from it and if anything more now than i did back then now that i can just look up the answers on the internet and see what happened with this stupid game i could never beat as a kid because it was impossible um you know it's a weird thing for me my nostalgia glasses for graphics are not that bad like when i went back to morrowind i was like yeah this is how i remember looking whatever when i go back to super old games i like, oh, I can't believe it's so bad.

I always remember how it looks. It's the controls. You know what? Oh, yeah, controls. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's one. 007. Yeah.

Like, you go and play 007 and you're just like, oh, man. Yeah, this is rough. Controlling my character is brutal. It's not the graphics. No wonder, you know, going to my friend's house and playing like he always beat me like you know you have to train in order to operate this thing yeah yeah okay yeah yeah i'd say old control schemes yeah because like it took a while for people to figure out like okay yeah this is how shooters are gonna work yeah like unreal didn't the original unreal tournament use like a and z for look up and down something like that oh i don't know original ut controls yeah because i

mean looking vertically was not a thing that was a feature on a initial shooter game yeah mouse look not a thing yeah like a lot of old shooter games when you got to a ramp your character would just like look up it automatically like you didn't actually control that or uh the the planes were all actually like equal so if something was up a ramp if you shot what would hit the ramp but in the right direction the your your bullets would just like go up and hit them yeah no here we go uh when playing unreal tournament i barely use the mouse unless i'm sniping all my controls are in your bullets would just go up and hit them. Yeah, no, here we go. When playing Unreal Tournament, I barely use the mouse unless I'm sniping. All my controls are in the keyboard.

Control is fire. Space bar, alt fire. Alt for walk. A to jump. Z to crouch. Page up to look up. Page down to look down. Home to center the view.

Q to throw the weapon that you're holding, and W to throw a relic. This is just a forum post I found in ut99.org. And so a lot of people are posting these just like, by modern standards, utterly ridiculous. Keybind setups? Yeah. Whew.

All right. that's rough yeah page up and page down okay yeah hey when the audio only wan show gets released will it be live and where could people listen to it spotify maybe it'll be here it'll be here yeah that's like a yeah not live and here with the couple of remote control things that you have done i found your channel from the firetruck lol would you consider a shelf model train layout around your house considering a dcc setup is very tech advanced i have wanted to do i actually wanted to build like a like a ceiling suspended train in the kids room just for kind of a fun project it's basically since my first child was born well that's a decade ago now it hasn't happened yet so i'm thinking probably it's not going to happen at this point. It's super cool, but I just can't find the motivation to do it. If I'm going to put a bunch of things on the wall or up around the ceiling,

I think the way for me to go now is a bunch of cat perches and cat runs and stuff like that. I'd love to do that in our house. Oh, sorry. I was getting angry messages um finally got my stream deck suggest some wii games for the emulator please wii games on the steam deck given how prevalent motion controls were for the wii i don't think i have a ton of suggestions the vast majority of my wii time was wii sports. Like vast majority. I bought other games but Wii Sports

was king. I was typing out a response to that but yeah in my experience all the games that I enjoyed with the Wii was because they got me up and got me moving. Wii Sports stuff, other various interesting controls. The Wii was cool because it was

a very new thing with the motion controller that that's why the wii was cool it wasn't cool because you could control the turn the controller sideways and like play platformers um so yeah i don't know okay i'm got a curated one here so this one's obviously important to linus luke as a back-end developer myself what is the business benefit for closed source code? In my experience, almost all code written had been done had been done

variation of something else that I've already done or exists. Okay. I mean, there's a lot of kind of nebulous things. This isn't,'t yeah this is a a lot of people get really spicy about open source close they do um i was i was curious about your answer i would bring us back to the star citizen conversation that i often bring up with these types of things which is where you do stuff more in the light you get tied up communicating about it instead of just like

doing it we have contributed to open source projects uh for things that we use we want to do more and we'll probably scale up how much of that we do in the future um it it takes a little bit more care than just, you know, editing it slightly for your own use case and then just running with it. So it would take more time, but we do want to give back to those communities. Again, we have done it a certain amount already,

but we do wish to do it more in the future. But yeah, I don't know, more, the idea that just having open source code means these magical angel developers are just going to come out of nowhere and just do things for you, which is the way that it's communicated surprisingly often, is not real. There are benefits to open source code. People can find, especially like security problems and suggest things. And if they start using it, they might contribute features and a lot of stuff like that but if you look into the space it ends up being a maintainer or a small group of maintainers just needing to fix things for like other people and spending a lot of times dealing with that type of stuff.

So, and I think that's honestly most of it. I'm not worried so much about like, oh, someone got our code for whatever. They can do the same thing we're doing. Like that's not really the problem. It's just not the most efficient way of moving forward. Sorry, Domenico. Probably not anytime soon. But yeah, that's going, probably not anytime soon. But yeah, that's going to piss some people off.

A bunch of open source people might get mad, but I don't know. I think the open source community is fantastic and we have made contributions. We will make more contributions in the future, but it's not efficient for us to just open source everything and then deal with this insane deluge of incoming communication about all of it yeah um it's just yeah we're a very small team um and there could be benefits because we are a very

small team to opening it and that's great and maybe we'll make something that's open at some point there's been a few proposals internally like hey we're making this one tool this might be a good idea to open source at some point especially there's been communication around that with some of the lab stuff and maybe that will be a thing what is going on uh but it's not a thing right now and with that the show is not a thing right now wow bye whoops yeah that's... We might need some other solution to this. Okay.