The WAN Show - Smart TOILETS will Diagnose your Illnesses! - WAN Show Nov 29, 2019

Episode Date: December 2, 2019

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Yeah, I think so. Okay. Alright, so we're just gonna like, we're just gonna YOLO this thing. What's up? Yeah, we have no idea if YouTube is getting a stream or not. Not a clue, I guess I can check. We're using the new YouTube streaming thing.

So that's pretty sweet. We've got a great show for you guys today. We're going to be checking out the new smart toilets that analyze your urine. I'm going to add, so I have no idea. Wait, what is OK WAN Show? There we go. Why is it called that? That is not what I entered in there.

Yeah, it says smart toilets. It sure does. This is what I love so much about YouTube. Okay, Wenshow. Oh no, oh no, where's my, where's my capture card? Where's my, where's my HDMI connection? Okay, Wenshow time. We were just talking about Friday's Dream. Where's my HDMI connection? Okay, we're in show time. We were just doing our Friday stream. Oh, why? That's the best. We even wrote, okay.

This is so stupid. So, okay. Wait, that's my, no, no, I want to, that's not what I want to show. I want to show, I want to show this one. This computer screen. Here we go. So that's what this computer looks like right now. Smart toilets will diagnose your whatever.

This stream is a thing. I entered all the things in here. They're saved, but no, you know what? I like it. Okay, land show. Okay, land show. Fine. Screw it.

That's what we're doing today. Yeah. What happened to my document? The VOD is going to understand this because it's probably going to be properly titled. Oh, right, because we scheduled the stream to start at 5.15. I don't even care anymore. Other great topics today. Facebook buys beat games.

I am so upset. Why does Facebook have to own everything? I love Beat Saber, and there's some bad news in here what are what are your favorite topics of the day uh the the deepfake thing is probably good so china and the u.s are both enabling deepfake laws that are going to make it like punishable to post deepfakes without saying that there's a deepfake in it at least somewhere. So that's probably good, just due to the legitimate fake news possibilities that could come with that. What is this?

Why is there a giant all-caps word? Oh, Kyno. They're the guys that have actually helped us out a lot with their software for... Basically, red footage is really difficult to deal with because you don't have thumbnails in windows so it's like hard to tell what files you're looking at and red has their own media browser but it like sucks so kino software allows us to more easily go through red footage in order to figure out like which footage we should use for where when we're doing

voiceovers and editing and stuff like that, whenever the writers need to look through it. They're having a Black Friday sale, and I told them I would give them a shout-out. Well. Yeah, so there you go. There you go. Heck yeah. I forget what their site is.

Oh, yeah, and the Smart Toilet, which was a college humor skit from, like, a long time ago. Lesspain.software. That's kind of. There you go. Cool. No, I already talked about the Smart To one oh but okay no that's fine we can both like that one you know you can make the yule log your news if you'd like hey you like to float plane yeah 8k not yet but it's coming right now it's up to 4k but honestly I'm terrified because okay well we'll talk we'll talk about

it later we'll talk about it later let's roll that intro okay when show do we need to get someone to get that for you dongle life man um it would be good because otherwise i can't log into floatplane and can't screen share you logged in on that one because then we can use your screen for that all right why don't we jump right into our headline topic today which is supposed to be smart toilets but instead is okay wancho okay wancho whatever freaking reason so this was a this was originally posted by William CLL on the Linus Tech Tips Forum. And basically the, man, this is hilarious.

The original article is actually hospitalhealth.com.au. And the news is that smart toilets could end up being one of the most powerful health tracking tools that you own you know forget about forget about apple watch apple needs to get into the apple toilet business so this is according to researchers at the university of wisconsin madison and the morgridge institute for Research. Urine contains a liquid history of an individual's nutritional habits, their exercise, their medication use, their sleep patterns, and other lifestyle choices.

Also, metabolic links to more than 600 human conditions, including kidney disease, diabetes, and cancer. Diabetes. So the team is designing a smart toilet that will incorporate a portable mass spectrometer that will recognize you and process samples across a variety of subjects testing could show how an individual metabolizes their medicines or sorry metabolizes certain types of prescription drugs in ways that could be healthy or dangerous.

It could indicate whether people are taking their medications properly and if those medications are having their intended effects. And has major health implications for large populations of people. Like if you had tens of thousands of users and you could correlate that data with health and lifestyle, you could start to have real diagnostic capabilities

and make real recommendations for people to better their health and better their lives. It might even provide early warnings of viral or bacterial outbreaks. But here's the issue. How long is it going to take before your insurance company taps into your smart toilet data? Data's just sold to anyone at the lowest bid possible. Just whatever. Who knows? Like, what was it?

Ring recently came out that they're, like, going to be working with the police to randomly use your doorbell as surveillance cameras with facial recognition on it. So, like, if someone walks by your door, they're just like, meh. Yeah, sweet. I don't know. Everything's crazy. So, in 2014, Adult Swim uploaded a video to YouTube called Smart Pipe and starts with this frame, which is one of my favorite things ever. Are you going to my screen? Yeah, I'm going to your screen.

Which I just think is absolutely great. But basically, you should watch it because it's hilarious if you're above a certain age, I guess, because I don't know. It's adult swim, okay? Yeah. It's not children's swim. Yeah. It's not kiddie pool. Yeah. We don't want pee in the pool. Yeah.

But I don't know. At least not kid pee. Lots of adults pee in the pool, too. I think we need laws around personal data to be way more sophisticated than they are now for stuff like this to be realistic. Because if there was very strong, powerful laws around personal data, I think I'd be down with something like this. I don't think the YouTube stream is set to public.

Really? Yeah! It's so bad! It's just, it's just... Wait, everyone's here. People are here. So bad! People are here. Oh, people are here?

Okay. Oh, it must just be that this chat is broken. There's 4,000 people watching. Yeah, this chat's broken. It's just like, there's like nobody, nobody commenting. Nice. Yeah, brilliant. Everyone on YouTube say, okay, WAN.

All right. Okay, WAN show. All right, carry on then. Yeah, brilliant. I want to on YouTube say, okay, WAN. All right. Okay, WAN show. All right, carry on then. Yeah. But yeah, I think I'd be okay with it if there was very sophisticated laws around personal data. Yeah, but there isn't. No.

So I'm not. But tell me this. Yeah. Okay. Why don't we talk about a hypothetical better society that we live in? Okay. Okay. So in this hypothetical better society where there's universal health care, so you don't have to worry about your insurance provider hiking up your rates.

Okay. I mean, how valuable of a tool is this? You know, like, do you run out and spend, let's say it's not cheap. What is this, a portable mass spectrometer? I don't know how much those cost. Targeted advertising is going to be a big thing. Sure, yeah. Like, I don't entirely know because I'm not very good with biology.

I don't know how you could manipulate this data. What if it could save your life? What if you got, okay, you know what? Forget it. Let's not talk about a different society. Let's talk about exactly the same society we're in right now. So you run the risk of your personal health information getting out there. You run the risk of targeted ads based on, based on like this guy loves weed. We need to send him all the weed ads or whatever the case may be.

Yeah, loves chips. This guy eats so many salty foods. I was tying those into the last thing. Oh, yeah, sure. Whatever. Point is, they can send you all the marketing data. They can adjust your insurance premiums based on this data. What if your insurance premiums went up and you looked at nothing but Doritos ads for the rest of your life,

but you caught your cancer at an early enough stage that you live i don't necessarily think it's saying catching cancer for one and for two and absolutely you could like there are there are hints for certain types of cancer in urine in urine and they are saying yes no this could actually save your life i think i'm generally going with uh liberty over just what we kind of sort of currently have. So give me liberty or give me death. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Okay. So what if it could change the way that we, like, what if this data, okay. Oh, here's another interesting angle on it. So you're not going you're not gonna install one in your home no okay fine fair enough what if they're installed in public spaces do you want no no no actually that's a whole we can talk about that later okay what if other people install them and you get to benefit from the data then are you like heck yeah smart toilets everyone in your dog go out and

buy a smart toilet I'm not gonna promote them to install it but if they install it in a better society great I don't care that's totally up okay all right that's still within the Liberty category they should be able to do whatever they want but you would choose to not know if you had a dangerous infection our current data environment yes thank you yes so tell me I don't think I don't necessarily think we're gonna stay in our current data environment, I think yes. So tell me... I don't necessarily think we're going to stay in our current data environment. And it depends on, I think, my general health position. How do we break out of it?

People are already talking about having, like, blockchain-based personal identification stuff. Sure. So you would be more in control with that data. And, like, this would have to not be sent out. It would have to be locally processed. But that's the thing. Unless it's...

It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. You know it's not going to happen. I didn't say I was sure it was going to happen. Right. I mean, the only purpose of having this data is if they can actually analyze it and have a big enough sample size in order to draw meaningful conclusions. Like that's the only, and the only way that you can...

They have to properly anonymize it then. And then that comes to an issue with the current state of data loss. And if they properly anonymize it, a lot of the data is useless anyway. Because the only way that we can start to make use of some of these markers that we might start to get is if we then know, okay, that individual then developed this disorder. You could give them a key. Okay, so you just want like a cryptographically

individualized but still anonymized. The problem though is then that individual marker has to be shared somehow. Because otherwise, when your family doctor... So unless you're relying on users to report, like, oh, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer today. Or you could give your doctor your key, if. So like. If you trust your doctor, which I think you should theoretically be able to. So hold on, hold on. Okay. Let's back up for a second. Because there is, okay. There is technically strong data laws there already. Okay. Hold on. So if you're relying on users to add their own data to the system, we all know that's not going to work. Well, no, I didn't know. No, no. Okay. So that's not going to work. Yeah.

But if you have to share it with a healthcare provider in order to have them update it the more Places it goes. Yeah, the easier it is to trace back to an individual and the less anonymized it becomes. Yeah So that's where that's where you make it So there should be data laws in place where if it is mishandled you get crushed the problem Oh is that we have ow? One second Not very peace of aluminum like we have we have stuff where like like giant

Mega multi-billion dollar companies will leak tons of extremely important information and then lose like 45 seconds worth of profit. Yes. Like it needs to be actually impactful and modernize data loss. So here's... Like it should be, in my opinion, it should be like car crash style

where like you get brought down for way more than the value of what was taken. Right. So if you get caught doing this, you should get nailed for way more than you could have ever possibly profited off of. Part of the problem with privacy, though, is that it's so hard to assign a dollar value to it.

Yeah, so just massively inflate it. But massively inflate what? Like, what is it? Okay, there is marketable values for those kind of things. You actually can figure that out. Sort of. Unless it's, it depends. Unless it's like some experimental data stream,

pun definitely intended. Oh my God, that's what they should call it. There should be a brand called that for sure. So unless it's like a data stream that we don't have a well-established market value for, how do you do that? Like what is the, you know, protein count of Luke's keyword? I would basically set it up like that person is now set. Set. Like give them a million and a half dollars, two million dollars.

Per individual. Screw it. Just make it so no one's going to do it. Here's the thing then. If you are a company that wants to develop this kind of technology, and you're a startup, you aren't Facebook, you aren't Google, are you stifling innovation if through their best intentions they accidentally something

you would be stifling it. You'd be stifling innovation. Is that what you want? In certain realms, yes. Really? Okay. Yeah. I don't want people to be, I don't want a random factory in Ohio to be able to start strapping C4 onto drones because they think it might

be good for mining. Like, I want to stifle innovation in certain ways because it could be dangerous and let proper entities handle that. That's true. But what we're talking about here is not, it's not, like, dangerous in the same sense that C4 on drones is. Sorry, this is a really crappy discussion. Sorry.

He has my name. Good job, is a really crappy discussion. Sorry. He has my name. Good job, Luke. There we go. Sorry. Thank you very much. I don't even know what's going on here. We've been live for 10 minutes now. Yeah, I don't even know what's going on.

I think this is something where, like with the development of AI, where it's really hard to make laws leading up to it yeah when you don't know where it can go yet because like having that much biological information on a wide variety of people that can be attached to their name and their advertising profile and everything else who knows where that's going to go that's's terrifying. Yeah. So I think you need to be heavy handed at first. So I guess back to the stifling innovation thing. Yeah. Here's the problem with that.

Okay. Other people are just going to do it anyways? No, not that necessarily. Okay. I mean, okay, so there's a variety of problems because there's nothing you're going to be able to do about other countries unless every country in the world is like, yeah, we're all going to handle this exactly the same way, which they won't. Yeah. It's probably not going to help. Some countries are going to do about you know other countries unless unless every country in the world is like yeah we're all going to handle this exactly the same way which they won't yeah um it's probably not going to help you're going to do it anyways and then number two is that then you are basically

guaranteeing that the only ones working on it are going to be amazon google and facebook do you really want them working on it uh why why that a thing? Because they're the only ones that could afford the fines if something does go wrong, even by accident. Yeah, I think the data law kind of stuff that I would be talking about is if you are caught not in, if you are caught benefiting from the misuse of the data. I see. Not if you are caught mishandling the data. So let's circle it back around then. Because that comes to consumer trust.

So if these laws do exist and they're not allowed to sell it, do you install a smart toilet? If it could save your life. Maybe. Then you consider it, even knowing what you know about the odds of it being broken into at some point. You still consider it. It depends who's doing it.

It depends. I would be very interested in their technology stack, how they're handling different things, et cetera. Okay. So you accept it as long as they don't have an incentive to benefit from stealing your data. And if they're being transparent about how they're dealing with it, and I decide that I'm willing to accept that risk, Yeah. To benefit from stealing your data. And if they're being transparent about how they're dealing with it. Interesting. And I decide that I'm willing to accept that risk, which in some ways of handling that data, I think I would be.

Then, sure. Cool. Okay. Interesting. All right. That would be my stance on it. I'm going to go for a very unpopular opinion. You would just do it? I would just do it.

Yeah. I would install it. If this could save my life or one of my kids' lives, done. It's installed. I think my opinion would probably change if I was a parent. But then that's also... I'm giving away my children's data. I was just going to say, that's a more advanced... Is that even my right? I don't know.

I could have a whole other WAN show just about that. When parents post a picture of their kid on Facebook, is that their data to give away? Who owns a child because it's not that simple it's parent guardian relationship from a legal standpoint parents really do make decisions for children in such a way as they would for a dog like is that is that is that right if you make a Facebook account technically against TOS

for your child who is underage and put their name on it and their photos and make it public. Yeah. That's interesting stuff. I'm happy I don't have to make these decisions. Heck yeah. Anyways, we just talked about poop a bunch. Yeah, well, mostly urine, actually, is what they seem to be pretty much focused on.

I think the old Adult Swim clip is mostly about poop and, like, rectal imaging and all this other funky stuff. So, yeah, here we go. So it's analyzed locally. Well, yeah, but in order for it to get smarter... Oh, no, I think this is an external server. Data sent out. There you go. Data sent out to user.

Yeah. I don't know. That seems to be broadening as it comes out from the source. I wouldn't read too much into it. Rich source of cellular metabolase. Kidneys filter about half a cup of blood every minute. Blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, liver disease, infectious disease, auto infectious disease autoimmune disease heart disease gi disease diabetes alzheimer's kidney disease

cancer obesity there's like all kinds of things that you could potentially track with this that would be very useful for you know you to know uh we have the wrong freaking yeah we have the wrong title and the wrong thumbnail on the stream. This is extraordinarily frustrating, the way that YouTube just cannot seem to have this work. Like, guys, just so you know, we tried to have the right title for the WAN show, and, oh, that's not the right one. Here we go.

Where is it? This computer, yeah, there it is. This is everything set up correctly and theoretically set to public and streaming. And just, yeah, it's hot garbage. So that's cool. YouTube actually reached out to me after our last stream where I showed all those problems with it. And they were like Hey, so like What don't you like about the new live dashboard?

I was like wow. I don't know absolutely everything did they tell you what no data is I? Know because it still shows no data. Yeah, we're definitely streaming live on the channel, so that's pretty cool guys It's terrible okay. Why do you have to click an edit button to change stuff like the description? I don't know I haven't seen any, why do you have to click an edit button to change stuff like the description? I don't know. I haven't seen any other platforms that you have to do that on. No, you should just change it and then click save. Yeah. I don't know. Why is there a 360 video button that you don't have to click a button to access,

but you can't access the title and the description without clicking a button? I don't know. This is extremely basic user experience stuff. Yeah, it's a very strange thing It's very strange thing. I think I just don't you look I think I just changed the thumbnail So I told you you know what I told them I was like okay guys tell you what? You guys arrange a conference call with me. Yeah, while we go live nice Yeah, and they're on that really yeah sometime after the Thanksgiving holiday

They have said that they are gonna try and do that cool And so I'm gonna be like here's how broken broken your stuff is. So I'm in the classic one now, and everything is working as I would expect. Oh, this is great. This is fantastic. Yeah, everything here is fine. It's unfortunately called OK Wancho. Yeah, I don't know what- that was probably Jake setting up the stream. Yeah, but I- you changed it. Oh, I know, I know, I know, but like, oh, whatever. Just so dumb. Oh, I know. I know. I know. But like, oh, whatever. Bye, Dennis. So dumb. All right.

So other topics for today. Yeah. Yeah, we've talked about P a lot. Well, I don't know. We didn't really talk about P. No. We talked about personal medical data and devices that could help us be healthier as individuals but potentially harm our privacy.

I mean, I think part of it for me is just that I feel like the ship has completely sailed on my privacy. That's okay. My argument for like liberty over whatever would be a lot stronger if I didn't think it was just gone already. Right. But like, I want it back. Right.

So I'm trying to kind of lean towards those things, you know. Are Brandon, David, or Andy here? Yeah. Could we turn off the lights from shooting today? Okay. Thank you. I don't know how to turn off some of the lights. No, one of them has, like, this super complicated RGB controller and stuff.

I had to close up once and was so lost for so long. They're all over the place, and I don't know what to do. What was I going to say? Yeah, it's, it's, I've been making a lot of personal changes to try to wrestle back what I can and it's hard and there's enough that like, yeah, that's out there. Are you using the onion router? No. Yeah.

It's like, theoretically you're supposed to and then i forget yeah don't resize the window and this and that it's like oh my god and like there's there's stuff like um like oh you should use a vpn and then it's like well i got personalized ads for something the other day that like it was not something I typed into a Google search. Like, I don't remember what I had done. I've had Google autocorrect searches for me that I've never typed before, and I very recently said vocally on my computer, which has my mic switched off. Yeah.

So it would have had to go through my phone. My phone must have updated Chrome, which I am not signed into right now. Whoa! Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe it was random. Sure! Maybe just people like you also like that. Sure. There's still a light on in the back of the bedroom, by the way.

Maybe they liked that that one time and then never liked it again. But yeah, it's like, even with there's a lot of reason to believe that there's government investment into VPNs. VPNs is just sending your data through some other dudes instead of your ISP, which can be beneficial for some things.

But like, I mean, we've seen all the like crap that's gone down with them recently. And like, there's no, it's just, unless you like really Fort Knox everything, you're just kind of screwed. Yeah, and I mean, the thing too is like, from my perspective, my life isn't screwed because of. No, I don't mean your life is screwed. Oh, okay. I mean, your like personal information security is screwed.

Oh, yeah, no, it's out. It's done. Yeah, yeah. All right, why don't we move on to the new China deepfakes law? So China has released a new government policy designed to prevent the spread of fake news and misleading videos created using AI, otherwise known as deepfakes, in before they use it to discredit real news. The new rule bans the publishing of false information or deepfakes online without proper disclosure that the post in question was created with AI or...

Oh, no....machine learning technology learning technology failure to disclose this is now a criminal offense I didn't think about that at all it also asks content providers to use technology to detect audio and video news content that has been manufactured or potentially manipulated like for example Tankman from the Tiananmen Square massacre. Great. So we need to make sure we have proper disclosures that that was AI-generated. You know?

Oh, man. Give it a matter of time, man. All right. I was happy, and now I'm not. It appears that the Chinese government is reserving the right to prosecute both users and hosting services for failing to abide by these laws. So this could be very dangerous for sites that allow user-generated content to be posted. Even something like Jiffy, for example, could be potentially under scrutiny and prosecuted criminally for having deepfake content on its site, just in the form of GIFs. And GIFs are one of the most dangerous forms of deepfakes

because the resolution and frame rate is so low that it's really difficult to pick it up. And you can actually get away very easily in the public eye with intentionally lowering those things. Yes. Most other content you can't, but those people seem to not care. Yeah.

So there's a similar US law. Last month, California became the first US state to criminalize the use of deepfakes in political campaign promotion and advertising. Which, like, it's like things we shouldn't have to outlaw. That's, like, right up there. You know? Yeah. AB730 makes it a crime to publish audio, imagery, or video that gives a false, damaging impression of a politician's words or actions. This includes news media as well as parody and satire, focusing instead on elections.

Wait, that sentence makes no sense. It excludes it. Oh, sorry. Excludes news media as well as parody and satire, focusing on elections. That's good. That's fine. But I think it should probably include news media as well. Yeah. Quite frankly.

If you are saying your news, then be news. Don't be deep things. I think that's where it should be a disclosure thing. So like political campaigns just shouldn't be allowed at all. This is great. Media, as long as it's disclosed and parody, like whatever. The law applies to candidates within 30 days of an election or 60 days, excuse me, and is designed to expire by 2023.

Why? Unless it's explicitly reenacted. Like, why? It should just keep going regardless. Anyway, these rules go into effect in China on January the 1st, 2020. We need happier news. I have happier news.

All right, what do you got for happier news? Ba-dum-bum. All right. It's Luke's favorite topic, talking about flow plane yeah check it out ladies and gentlemen hey i just switched resolutions so hold on hang on yeah give it a hot minute here you're also on wi-fi i'm gonna refresh legitimately potentially a problem here yay you're at 1080 though it's pretty okay hold on there's 1440 as well i want to see 4k okay all right i don't want to see no 1440 as well. I want to see 4k. Okay, all right I don't want to see no 1440. That's like I haven't tried 4k on this laptop. It's like crap tier

Oh, yeah, it might not be able to do it. Yeah, it works completely fine on my computer at home But right right click let's see task manager. Oh Like how hard is this gonna be working here? Oh boy! And you're done bud! in here. Oh boy! And you're done, bud! Okay, so this is actually something we've

been running into as a problem is we've had to benchmark these videos internally with the team to see whose computers can even run them. So this one can't do 4K. Okay, hold on. Let's see if we can do 1440 so just to be clear guys. This is not YouTube 4k no This is a bit of a heavier 4k stream and

This particular laptop is a little bit on the older side and doesn't have any Open screen doesn't have any dedicated decode hardware that would enable it to handle this heavy of a 4k stream it's doing 1440 just fine though 1440 is fine and it is a 1080p screen i believe so it's official the ltt yule log is live now talk to me talk to me luke talk to me about the 8k version because you guys are working on that right it's playable right now. I have watched it, basically everyone else on the team has watched it. It is glorious.

It crippled quite a few people's computers on the team that are like solid. My computer did just fine actually, which was nice. It seems to be interesting based on like how your computer decides to handle it if your GPU takes the entirety of it Yeah, seems to generally go okay like video decoding Percentage on your GPU is gonna fly up to like 40 50 percent Wow 1080 So it's gonna be pretty tough You're gonna be sucking back like 80 watts of power. It's to watch a video.

So this is great because the LTT U-Log will not only look like a fire. I like it. Sorry, I saw where that was going. But yeah, we also have the full over 10 hours. We did the whole thing. Tell me how big that file is at 4K. So, okay, guys, just everyone needs to... At 4K?

Everyone needs to chillax for a second here because on Floatplane, we offer our users the option to download a DRM-free copy of the content that our creators upload. Yeah. The problem with that in the case of a video like this, you're going to have to throttle people's downloads of this, like hardcore.

Yeah. Because a 10-hour 4K file at what was the bit rate? 36. 36. Do I have it here? No. I think someone told me it here? No. I think someone told me it was 900 gigs. 900 gigs.

That's what someone told me. The original file was 500 gigs. Oh, 500 gigs. The original file that you guys sent us was 500. Okay, so maybe it's 90 gigs then. Maybe I got a zero. I think it's over 100. Over 100.

I have some form of memory that it was like 160, but I don't, I'm trying to find it, and I can't find it right now. So dumb. Good news for YouTube users is that you guys will have to wait a little bit, but probably not forever. We are working with YouTube as well,

and we are asking them to temporarily lift their maximum file size limit in order to allow us to upload an 8k to youtube as well but as you would expect it's early access on floatplane so uh what do you got there uh the this is so dumb the cost for a complete 8k 8k stream would be 165 gigabytes okay so that's the 8K stream. So 4K is probably a lot less than that then. Yeah, I think Will just

hit me up and said it's 80. That is so dumb. Why are we doing this? These also aren't the most 100% recent messages. Yeah, and what's the 8K bit rate? 36. 8K. I thought you said that was 4K. No, I think that is 8K.

8K at 36? I think so. That doesn't sound right. I would be pretty surprised. Are you sure? Yeah, I'd be pretty surprised by that. It's 1440. Yeah, I just want to see what we're sucking back right now.

Just curious. So right now at 1440, it's kind of all over the place. It's hard to tell. It's always going to be on both platforms. Yeah, all right, never mind. What can I do for you, Mr. Light? Oh, I'm sure I know why you're here. I know why you're here. We have a special Black Friday promotion for you on the LTT store.

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But here you go. Oh, that one's a little hot. Cool. Here's a post from the Oculus blog, welcoming Beat Games to Facebook. Yes, the developer of Beat Saber has been games to Facebook. Yes, the developer of beat saber has been acquired by Facebook Ha so they're gonna join oculus studios as an independently operated studio in Prague Facebook claims that the things the community has come to love about beat saber will remain intact

How'd that work out for oculus is oculus still intact are all the things we loved about oculus intact oculus out of 10. give me out of 10 out of 10. oculus being intact out of 10 is a 10. what about the things we loved about oculus not very high i think yeah okay cool um some people might argue with me on that because I think... Oculus did some butt-headed stuff even before Facebook acquired them, just to be very clear. Yeah. So, I don't know. Maybe they deserved each other.

I don't know. I don't know if it was necessarily Oculus that we loved. Maybe we just loved that it wasn't owned by Facebook. Is that where we're going with this? Probably. And that they were, like, making a big push in the right direction. So, Facebook says that with their resources and know-how, Beat Games will be able to accelerate,

adding more music and more exciting features to Beat Saber, as well as bringing the game to more people. What more people? It's already available on every VR platform. One random thing that I have to interject. All right. I tried to do some math to look into your claim of the bitrate thing, and the calculator on the

computer was lagging because i was still watching the 1440p video in the background ouch that was awesome this laptop is a absolute 10 out of 10 i think it's a dual core so like yeah yeah it's a dual core blade stealth like first gen or second gen, I think. All right. So, yeah, that sounds cool. But, like, I don't need more music in the game, quite frankly, because due to the robust modding community that exists for Beat Saber, you can add any music you want to the game, just like you can with BoxVR.

As long as someone creates a level for it, unlike BoxVR, which just kind of dynamically creates one. So FAQ. There is a long history of indie studios joining large companies and being utterly ruined. How are you going to avoid that? So here's the quote. I've been in the industry for a while and have seen that firsthand. However, I've also seen and been a part of some incredible success stories the story we aim to prove over time is this an indie studio joins forces with some like-minded allies and together they find a way to push vr to new heights okay then are you guys going to be slowing down updates for non-oculus platforms and prioritizing development

for oculus no beat games will continue to ship content updates for beat saber at the same time across all currently supported platforms so here are some user fears um and i believe there was a quote associated with this first one actually copyrighted custom songs may be removed as well as other mods including skins um this is a huge concern for me because from my perspective like i i ran into this actually a little while ago i was talking about it on my beat saber stream that I did last week which was terrible dropping frames all over the place because I was trying to stream on a quad-core while playing in VR it was bad anyway I was talking about how like obviously some custom songs are created with pirated music it's very clear

especially because the the song from Lego Movie 2 catchy song the the song from lego movie 2 catchy song um the the one that i was playing the copy of the song was so bad like it sounded like a 64 kilobit per second mp3 that i downloaded off napster when i was in high school like it was terrible it sounded like someone put their smartphone next to a radio and freaking uploaded it to the thing it was it was terrible so i went i bought the song on i don't remember i picked whichever platform had drm free downloads so that i could put it on my server and then never have to worry about it before i think it was play music pretty sure that's technically still not how that's supposed to work no that works yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Play music.

No, no, no. You're allowed to download it twice. But then I don't think you're allowed to put it in that game. So, hold on. As far as I'm concerned, I'm sleeping easy. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Because I have paid for a license to listen to that song as many times as I want. And I have paid for a license to play that game as much as I want.

Yeah. I'm totally down with that. If I do them together... I'm totally down with the moral position, but I'm not sure if it's legal. So, I have no problem paying for songs. Yeah. If it comes to that.

And one of my biggest problems with Beat Saber, and one of the reasons that I was driven to go out and mod it so that I could play copyrighted songs was that there are so few songs in the library. It's pretty easy to get bored. However, what I am not going to be down with is if

Beat Saber ultimately forces you to buy songs only in the game. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes a thing. Because then you're also buying the level design and blah, blah, blah. Like if they go and they build a marketplace where as long as I own a legit version of the song or whatever or something, or if I have a Spotify account and it's a song that's on Spotify, then it can be LinkedIn or whatever.

Not LinkedIn. Like if they can be linked together. Nothing to do with LinkedIn. If they can be linked together. with LinkedIn. If they can be linked together, like if there's a way that they can do this, that makes it so that the community that has developed around creating custom songs isn't stifled or destroyed, and maybe even they add a tip system. So those people can make money. Like there's a lot of ways that they could do this really constructively. I have about a 0% confidence that they're going to do it any of those ways. So that's my big problem right now.

And it's such a pain in the butt. I have never dealt with this before because I don't mod a ton of games. Okay. But playing modded games on Steam is a royal pain in the ass because there's no way to stop the game from updating. I didn't know that. I swear there used to be just a, like, don't update this game button. Does not exist and cannot be done, as far as I can tell now.

You can stop all your games from updating. And then you could manually update other games. No, wait. No, you can't. Yeah. How? Like, you can go into offline mode, but, like, I'm not going to. You can just pause your downloads.

Pause your downloads. I'm pretty sure they will turn on eventually. I've had things stuck in download queue for a long time before. I don't know. Yeah. I'm really not sure. I'd have to check because there's... So I've actually dug pretty deep on this.

Okay. You can delay it. So there's... I forget what it's called. Is it like Ledger or something? I forget. There's a file that you can update on a per game basis. You go in, notepad++ or whatever you use,

you change it to minus four or something, whatever. There's a field you can change and it'll stop it. But the next time that game pushes an update, it will reset that. So if a game is still being actively updated by the developer, as far as i can tell there is no way to prevent it from updating so someone said you can pause it and it will stop downloads but it will force you to download it when you run the game there you go so offline mode i'm not

gonna run offline mode forever no i know i'm just saying so right now the only workaround is you have to go to this steam something something from Still updates in steam so you have to go to like this repository that keeps Like these these numerical values that correspond to all the different versions of the game that exist because they're all still on steam servers different versions of the game that exist because they're all still on steam servers then you have to manually use command line in steam to download like the correct version of the game copy it to a separate folder then change that value in the in the like text file then you have to copy the old version of the game over top of the latest version that just updated and then it won't touch it again until the next update.

It's horrible. I'm still running Beat Saber 1.3 and I have all my mods working and everything. Honestly, the game is perfect as it is for me and I just don't want them to ever touch it ever again and I wish I could just freeze time. Maybe you can. New idea.

Copy the folder, only run the executable from the other folder don't point steam at that folder i doubt it'll work but i can try it i know there are some steam games that will act perfectly within that realm but i don't know if that's one i'll give it a shot i did spend a fair bit of time googling this for Beat Saber specifically and nobody mentioned that solution, but I'll give it a shot All right, we I need to get home because I need to relieve my babysitter tonight So here's a quick one AMD cards can use G-Sync now. So Nvidia has basically given up on being proprietary. So G-Sync displays with the G-Sync module now are being updated to allow variable refresh rate

over HDMI and adaptive sync via HDMI and DisplayPort. Firmware update is being made to the V1 and V2 G-Sync hardware modules. I don't know that if you can actually update your current G-Sync monitor though. No, I don't think so. Yeah, so that's- Pretty sure it's only new monitors.

Yeah, so that's kind of lame. Um... One last quick one? Yes. Sorry Linus, there's already a new fold in China. Oh, what? Samsung has revealed the WG25G. Sorry. W25G. Yeah, what he said. A refined

Galaxy Fold in terms of both design and internal components. It supports China telecoms and China Unicorns non-standard 5G deployments. It has a thicker and stronger middle frame, a new white finish. The edges are a little sharper this time around. And it has a smaller battery, 4,235 mAh instead of 4,380. Why would anyone want a smaller battery? Price unknown.

I'm assuming it's for more bulky durable components. Oh, interesting. Right, without completely redesigning the rest of the chassis. Yeah. That makes sense. All right, Snapdragon 855+, blah, blah, blah, cool. Oh, it's not that much smaller, it's probably fine. I got pretty good battery life out of the Fold, honestly. Right, i didn't upgrade still rocking it xl2xl all right and currently

my plan is when the battery gets too bad which it isn't yet it's still actually fine i don't game on it and stuff so like whatever um but when the battery gets too bad i'll probably just swap it and keep going all right i'm only going to be able to do a handful of super chats here, guys. Dis236 says, can you make shirts that aren't black? Yes, we are working on it. I thought there were some. Oh, man. I really want to show you guys a hoodie design that we're working on.

It's the CPU shirt, but it's going to be, like, white. It looks so good. That could be pretty cool um all right mate all the hype for scrapyard wars thanks mate it's coming uh it's not a weekly release schedule we actually never promised that this time so some people are super mad that scrapyard wars i have seen this i have very much it's not late it'll come when it comes we're we're editing it constellations is a blue shirt. That's true. It is pretty dark. Mass spectrometers for labs cost more than $100,000.

So that's, now we know. I was going to say, it didn't sound cheap, but I didn't know, like, how much they cost. Gerad says, when will the WAN show be archived on floatplane? When floatplane builds a feature that doesn't require me to manually upload it. What? Oh, WAN. Oh, yeah. when floatplane builds a feature that doesn't require me to manually upload it what oh when oh yeah thanks darren torgerson uh pickles says hey fellas love you guys keep being awesome and always remember luke needs to grow a more glorious beard i recommend miracle grow or

shamwow what are you even talking about is that a thing like people using shamwows to grow better beards? Well, I mean, maybe. I don't know anything about it, clearly. Andrew J. Blomberg says, bought a pair of AirPods Pro after watching your video on it. I have autism, and when the active noise canceling turned the Mall of America into a room of whispers,

I almost cried. Thanks, guys. Yeah, it's like life-changing. Like I just flew out to New York for a couple of projects, including beautifying Marques' Tesla. I sweeped in after the AirPod. Pros got announced and bought normal AirPods. Really?

Yeah. I don't know if you remember, but the only headphones I've ever been able to comfortably, in-ears that I've ever been able to comfortably wear are EarPods. And I got tired of needing the dongle to be able to plug it into my phone So I moved on gotcha only other acceptable option they gotcha when they went down on price Because the pros came out and they went down on price a little bit. Yeah, and it's gonna fit it for me It's all about fitting in this pocket

Yeah, I will it's even smaller than I thought because I had never held the case. And so far, I like them. Let's see. Apparently, WildWolf says you can copy Beat Saber into a separate folder and run it with everything working. Okay, well, that's good to know. And Gabriel says,

the developer can make prior versions available via the beta tab. Yeah, but they're not going to do that. So, yeah, I doubt it. All right. Thanks, Natalie. Thanks, Justin. Thanks, guys. Thanks, you know, all of you guys.

We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. All right. Yeah, I've been doing those walk-around things. And every time I can't find my stupid Watch you by Sennheiser do Thursdays Squash oh, yeah