The WAN Show - Stolen iPhones Rat Out New "Owners" - WAN Show June 5, 2020

Episode Date: June 6, 2020

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And welcome to The WAN Show, ladies and gentlemen. The show where usually we talk about tech, and often we talk about our own personal lives, and occasionally we run our mouths and dig a really, really deep hole for ourselves. And yes, Luke, I did include you in there. I said we, even though you actually didn't say anything, which was a very, very good decision that you made at that time. I actually, I tried to pull you back multiple times. Yeah, you did.

You actually did. And that was one of the things that made it all the more painful to go back and rewatch that segment of the show. Next time, if you could just, because I'm pretty sure, the thing about, okay, so here's the thing. When you hire people who you know have kind of like a sketchy past, okay? You know, when you know, look, I'm not saying, okay, I'm not saying you have a sketchy past. I'm just saying that you have the kind of knowledge that I might expect from someone who has a bit of a sketchy past, okay?

okay so when you hire someone like that you got to assume that they've got some kind of like you know you know kill bot you know on your on your network you know because just in case you ever cross them right so next time that happens this is why i'm dragging you into this next time that happens i all i ask is you just deploy it just shut it down just just shut her down you know make make me think there's technical difficulties i love how the solution is not convince you that you're wrong no no the solution is shut no no you can't no you can convince me i'm wrong but just do that later you know you gotta hit you gotta hit the emergency button you know it's there's no time luke there's no time i should have been i should have been more sure i i watched it back too and i think yeah because there's quite a few times where i was

like i don't know maybe he knows something that i don't know he didn't like he didn't know anything luke you can see it in my face where i'm like really i don't i'm not sure no no no he knew nothing luke he knew nothing and you should have you should have trusted your instincts okay they got they've got stink in there but they don't stink they're like they're in like they stinked maybe they stunk before but now they're good. You know, you got to frost them. We've got a great show for you guys today. Apple has been locking the phones that have been stolen. NCIX US is apparently, the website is back online.

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More processor. We already have good stream thumbs up in the chat. I appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, guys. Appreciate you guys too. Good comment. Good comment. Good comment.

The first video you guys uploaded on Flowplane after that WAN show, the whole comment section. It was unreadable. It was unreadable. All right, let's roll that intro. Roll that intro, ladies and gentlemen. Also, you want to know a big rip? Oh, yeah?

The LTX20 emotes are still on full play oh i am so sad i was like tweeting back and forth with um who was it i think it was the epos uh i don't i don't have the thing so i'll just put it like that i was tweeting back and forth with epos uh on on i guess twitter i guess that's where you tweet things it's been a long week okay uh so i was tweeting back and forth with epos uh on on i guess twitter i guess that's where you tweet things it's been a long week okay uh so i was tweeting with him and like oh yeah and i was texting with uh steve from gamers nexus and like both of them just made me think of like ltx steve like specifically brought it up and i'm like it hurts like i am so bummed that we're not doing ltx this year obviously it was the right call and i should have made it earlier but i i just had so much fun last year

and now that it's a year later i honestly feel like it was more fun even than i felt like it was then like you know how memories can make something seem sweeter than it was even like whether it was bad or whether it was good in the first place. Memories kind of can make it better. Or worse, but like, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. You'll usually kind of shave off one side or the other. Yeah, but I just, I had such a good time last year. And I went back not that long ago because I forget what it was for, but I was watching some of the collab videos that people had released, like even ones that I wasn't in or anything from LTX last year.

And just like being like, wow, that was so cool. Just having probably more of the tech community all together in one place than anything other than probably ces would be the only one i can think of where there'd be more computex is probably close but um it's overseas for a lot of the north american guys so at least within our circle it's not as commonly traveled to and especially in recent times because so many creators have stopped attending shows yeah oh yeah for sure you're getting more of those creators that have stopped attending shows that are well going to in the future probably and also for 2019 attended ltx yeah sweet there's

still a lot of people who didn't come this year are like still supportive of 2021 they're like yeah you know give me a year and you know as long as we've got uh as long as we've got that that uh that covid vaccine sorted out and all that good stuff and as long as it's like safe to travel i'm super down do you see uh marquez's tweet about ces's announcement that they're going forward with an in-person event they are i know right i don't know if they've backtracked on this since then but i can head over to the ces website ces the global stage for innovation um what is this um oh okay oh that's confusing uh okay let's go ahead and have a look yes yes 2020

yeah go ahead there's theory that ces was the vector into the u.s in the first place really like there's some fairly legitimate that long ago yeah because they don't really know when it started i imagine if it had been ces it would have gotten a lot bigger a lot faster though everybody gets sick at ces yeah yeah hotels registration information conference timeline is a little messed isn't it ces is the largest tech show on the planet huh yeah yep yep no i uh yeah i i'm not going to be there. I'll tell you that much right now. And unless there are people on my team that really want to go,

then no, I'm not going to be sending anyone over there. It's just not. What's the point? I mean, that's something that honestly, I feel like I've, I knew already, like I already got kind of irritated when brands would wanna fly everyone and their dog who has a very busy schedule to some place so that they can put you up in a hotel

that I just look around and I go like, all I'm doing is sleeping here. Like this costs too much. It doesn't make any sense. Why are we all here when you could have just given me a briefing over Skype and sent me a device? Because that's all I actually care about.

I just want to know about the product and I need my hands on the product so that I can see if I agree with what you're telling me about the product. That's it. And so this whole song and dance of like dinners and events and stuff like that, it's never made a ton of sense to the pragmatic side of me. Like, obviously, it's nice to, it's nice to, you know, see people in the industry that I don't otherwise get a chance to see. Like, that's, that's one good thing about it. But from like a brand standpoint, I don't really understand what the value is for them. So it's really made me, even though it was

something I was already aware of, it's really made me rethink just how necessary any of this is. Yeah. Just to jump back on it, I found the investigations into COVID being at CES, and apparently it was a thing. Really? Yeah. Fascinating. kind of interesting one of the earliest vectors into the u.s and they're going forward yeah all right well good luck good luck ladies and gentlemen why don't we jump into what was our first headline topic for the day this was originally posted on patently apple. Apple has apparently been sending messages

to people who have stolen phones from their Apple stores. So, I mean, Apple is kind of an obvious target for any kind of looting behaviors because their products, well, yeah, they're high value and not just high value. One of the coolest things about an Apple product, if you think about it, is that it holds its value incredibly well. Like a great condition iPhone is worth maybe like that, but that's not sealed and brand new, is worth maybe like a few percent less than a brand new sealed iPhone. Maybe 5%, maybe 10.

Whereas if you buy like a game controller, okay, you go buy an Xbox controller, you go try to flip that on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace or whatever, I guarantee you, you're taking a 25% hit at least. Even if it's like perfect condition. So yeah, one thing to point out here is that it's not clear whether or not this was all of the devices it might have just been the demo devices and demo devices do tend to run special software so it's not clear it's it's probably unlikely that like your random iphone that you have at home has this type of kill switch in it.

It's probably just the demo phones, but still pretty interesting. Several locations, including Apple stores in Minneapolis, Portland, and Phoenix, were reported to have been looted in response. Apple has temporarily closed some of those stores. And there's a photo shared on Twitter. You guys can check it out there that shows what is reported to be a stolen iPhone displaying this warning message. Please return to Apple Walnut Street. This device has been disabled and is being tracked. Local authorities will be alerted. Oops. Yikes. So the lesson here is very simple. You know, I'm not going to get philosophical about, you know, stealing iPhones or whatever. But I will leave you guys with this. If you're going to steal something, you should steal something without a GPS in it.

Okay, that's it. That's all. I think that's a universally applicable lesson that we can all appreciate i did not think that was going there at all not gonna not gonna not gonna get into the whole you know this is we ended up with a car no we ended up with a lot of gps's we ended up with a lot of controversy. OK, when we had that discussion about like a movie and music piracy a little while ago. So I'm not even going to get into, you know, stealing good, stealing bad.

I'm just going to give you a free tech tip. OK, don't steal stuff with a GPS in it. And especially stuff with a GPS in it that has a serial number that is hardware linked to the device that's extra bad extra super bad so um yep good good good job like take pictures of you while you hold it yeah yeah yeah that's yeah that's bonus that's also doesn't help yeah that's bonus fail um apple hasn't made any kind of comment so we actually don't know um for sure you know what the mechanism is of this kill switch or whatever the case may be but um we do know for sure that they want that particular iphone returned to apple walnut street yeah and that also that is being tracked so tell me this luke you're the person holding this phone

okay nice what's your next step don't put your don't put yourself in their mindset you're luke you're luke lafreniere or wait i guess you gotta put yourself in their mindset a little bit okay so you stole a phone let's say took a phone okay i'm not even gonna go that far you took a phone okay maybe you thought someone needed it back or whatever you know you whatever you're holding it you get this message what do you do uh well i mean if we're going under the context that i stole it um i'm gonna do the you took it you took it i took it from the apple store i'm just not using the word stole you took it okay okay i mean the door wasn't locked anyway i i would i would yeet you would yeet just you would you would you would toss it you get rid of

it yeah yeah okay i don't know i think especially right now i it would be it would be something to get rid of so here's a question are you making your life more difficult it's now destruction of property yeah because they've been tracking you they've probably sent pictures back okay are you actually so so that's yeah no we're talking tech tips here. We're sticking to tech tips. Tech tips standpoint, what do you do? I'm now recovering the phone that I yote. Yeah, that you yote? Is that the past tense of yeet? I don't know.

Because I could get into that. I like it. I think I support this. Yeah, I think I'd take it back to the store, I guess. I don't know. I lost. Do'd take it back to the store i guess i don't know i lost do you take it like oh wow i bought this from a person okay but the store is closed the store is presumably closed leave it on the smashed counter just leave it on the smashed counter here you go yeah i don't know it's a weird because they're closing all the other stores this store is probably looted and

destroyed anyways so yeah i really don't know like what yeah leave it in the broken store someone else will take it i guess that's that's my move for sure 100 because like i actually don't know what the legal ramifications of taking something taking it okay and then putting it back bringing it back before you're ever actually charged i think i think you still get charged okay but like well like i mean well okay so forget from a legal standpoint then from a moral standpoint okay i have no idea so i i'm like real mad at my neighbor because they put their, they dumped their lawn clippings over my fence for the last time. Okay. So I'm mad at my neighbor and I go and I take a bat and I like smashes passenger side window in his car.

Okay. Because I'm an angry person like that. Okay. Okay. I realize, oh, you know what? That wasn't a nice thing to do because yeah he's out of town for a week right and it's gonna rain and that's really a lot more damage than i wanted to do so i'm a nice guy i realize well this is a simple fix because i conveniently have access to his car because i can unlock the door very easily now because there's a broken

window I pretend his car is mine I have the window fixed I put it back exactly the way it was did I morally speaking did I commit a crime remember

when you talked about how we got in a lot of stuff for the for the piracy conversation are we going down that line we're gonna have a hypothetical we're gonna have a hypothetical conversation here luke this is hypothetical okay does that help i mean i think you're still morally wrong you think i'm still morally wrong yeah i mean for one what about atonement you damaged his property i I did. Sure, you fixed it. I did. But you also temporarily stole it.

You presumably drove it around or got it towed. I could have had it towed. I could have had it towed. I would not have driven it. Even if you had it towed, that is some amount of increased wear on the vehicle. That's fair. And that is use of his property that he does not condone. And what's saying that the quality of the new window is up to par with the quality of the previous window?

What if it was better? What if I got him like a tinted one? It's a one singular tinted window. Okay, no, forget it. It's just better. It's like, it smells nice. It's better for whatever reason. Yeah, it smells nice.

It's a nice. It's like it smells nice. It's better for whatever reason. Yeah, it smells nice. It's a nice smelling window. This car will never be stinky again. I think that is the way to go about the atonement angle. I still don't think it's morally right. But I think it's redeeming, if you know what I mean. Okay, I think... Here's how I think it works. I think it's still up to them to press charges or not. Yeah. And then I think ultimately it's going to be a sentencing issue. So let's say it was a much more severe crime that you then

atoned for and like kind of wiped the slate back to fresh and no one's the wiser. You know, and let's say it headed to a jury. I think the jury still has to convict you. But then when it's time for sentencing, that's where the leniency comes in, where they say, well, you know, normally the sentence for this would be six years in prison or whatever. But like, you know, you the person you killed, you brought them back to life exactly like they were. So I guess it's fine now. so I guess it's fine now. If you drove the vehicle away, I think that's like... Grand Theft, right? Grand Theft Auto. Yeah. So it's really not great.

You're not doing good here. I think if I was arbiter of this situation, I think the person who broke the window would be morally wrong. But if they went and got it fixed and there was actually an improvement and they apologized i think if you went after them further you're probably morally oh i'd say nothing if i like did that and then i fixed it there's no way i'd apologize so now they just have this like nice smelling window yeah okay forget about the nice

smelling window that's stupid it's just a window yeah it's a normal window normal window i think that definitely means you're morally wrong okay yeah yeah morally wrong but then morally right later but but obviously it's less right than if you hadn't done it in the first place yeah all right so we can move on um the moral of the story is if your neighbor's car has gps okay and a serial number then don't take it oh man and especially if you do take it make sure you bring it back with the windows repaired okay is is that fair to say that that is the moral of the story improvement please don't please don't clip this out of context all right well why don't we jump right into our next topic here um ncix us is back online ladies and gentlemen.

Oh, yes. Okay. Okay. I'm not, no, no, you don't get to look at it yet. Don't spoil it, Luke. Don't spoil it. Okay. Hold on.

I just got to add a window capture here. Got to get to get my, get my, get my window capture. Got to have more windows. Okay. Window capture. Yeah. Existing one window capture two. I don't know what window capture two is, but it's, the right thing so that was super lucky yay let's just make that a 16 by 9 ish kind of thing we're looking at okay

you ready you ready okay okay is it is it us.ncx man that's such a it's such a ref it's like muscle memory i typed ncix.com into my browser i'm gonna go into us nobody cared about the us site it was totally a red-headed stepchild um okay nciaxus.com here we go three two one enter you ready for it guys doesn't load that fast it's not fast because the whole show is trying to access oh wait are you guys gonna ruin this for everybody oh dang it's loading why is that okay there we go here we go oh yeah you see that hot pepper action sale it's sales i think they mean save 40 to 80 percent okay great discounts on the hottest items we got that pepper you gotta hurry to buy and you buy some pepper hold on let's have a look at what we got in here oh final sale 16 gig a series walkman video mp3 all right should i buy one what even is this okay so we got that uh what else we got we got the 8 gig e-series walkman video like a drop ship site now okay hold on hold on luke we're exploring together i actually have not looked at it

look at the about us look at the about us the about us 3993 hanover street call is free sales at example.com. Oh, no. About company. Hold on. Let's find out about us. Hey, this is actually the original URL on cixs.com slash contact. Oh, wait, no.

It might have been contact us. You guys, come on, guys. Everyone watching the show, you guys, you got to get off the site so that we can all enjoy it together here, all right? You got to help me out here. Okay, my WANanshow brethren what else we got we got 30 white t-shirt okay you know what i know where you can i know where you can get a

better deal on a t-shirt by a lot ltcstore.com by the way this is your opportunity to vote guys you want me to shave the beard you got to get the clean shirt if you love the beard you got to get the beard shirt whichever one sells more is what i'm gonna keep for the rest of the year i actually have no idea um nick doesn't nick doesn't tell me anything anymore you should call them they're open for one minute no way are they open okay hold on a second 6 p.m on friday there's no one minute there's no oh they're well they're in new york well i mean One minute. No way. Are they open? Okay, hold on a second. 6 p.m. on Friday. They're open for one minute. Oh, well, they're in New York.

Well, I mean, they may be in New York. We can give it a shot, though. We can give it a shot. Okay, here, hold on a second. Okay. Okay. It's free. It's free to call, apparently.

Call is free. All right, here we go, ladies and gentlemen. It's free. It's free to call, apparently. Call is free. All right. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. I just, I want to, I want to know. Okay. Not in service. Not in service. I mean, are we surprised, Luke?

Are we really that surprised? I mean, sales at example.com. Do you think you're going to get a bounce back, Luke? Think you're maybe going to get a bounce back, Luke? I think you're maybe going to get a bounce back. Also, I find it interesting. Oh. So even the address and everything is FACO. Oh. What about the reviews?

You guys have the best customer service known to man. I have always been impressed with how fast you help us out meanwhile the comment is from november 2013 yeah because like i noticed the the how to reach us it's so awkwardly specific we are located near hanover street bus stop once you get off the, walk towards the bank and turn left by the entrance. Walk 200 meters and turn right. Now go down the street until you see the demo store sign. Enter the doors under this sign.

What? Seriously? That's ridiculously specific. I mean, for all I know, maybe that's a totally normal thing for new york-based stores because it can be a bit of a maze there i i will say that look at look at uh just highlight your mouse over the video games category also yeah none of those none of those things at the top load okay video games nintendo wii playstation 3 playstation vita x-box one and what's with these brands like if we go on the on the main page i had it loaded before but i'm having a bit of a hard time

now but the the brands that they carry are so random like make yeah holy crap creative zen touch to contact us for price are you even kidding like price too low to show wildwood city classic bike the page is just like basically completely dead for me now unfortunately at this point but i was having way too much fun with this and i would have loved to uh enjoy it some more. Yes, cell phones. Apple iPhone, HTC, Motorola, Nokia, Samsung. You know what's kind of bizarre though, Luke? Is some of these things actually look kind of weirdly familiar. Like MP3 speaker systems, right?

Who would call it MP3 speaker system? That's not a terminology that's, like, ever been used by anyone ever, except NCIX. Part of me is actually kind of wondering if some aspect of this is running on the ncix back end it could also just be like like i i'm trying to launch it like if this demo store thing whatever whatever company actually powered by multi-vendor shopping cart software sim tech sim tech yeah maybe not then maybe not yeah maybe not then maybe not yeah it's just weird yeah so this brand stuff so the the logo the four boxes with the one extra box thing and all that kind of stuff that is this cs cart like uh like pre-done framework thingy that they're using okay like the similar products one uh no just the logo the demo store thing so like whatever platform they're

running yeah or or framework or whatever this is yeah um they they could have just tried to port whatever they had over interesting and like ncx had console stuff they did they did and it was like the the generation of stuff is kind of right yeah it's really weird like and things like like grouping grouping printers and scanners together like i'm pretty sure that's the thing we did it's been a long time it's all stuff like apparel and sports and outdoors is probably just extra categories that came with the demo store software yeah that kind of makes sense and i'm just like i'm looking at some of this weird stuff like the okay i don't i don't know i don't know about like the series a series walkman video i don't know if that's like the kind of random dead stock thing that

might have still been showing you know in stock or something like that and as far as i can tell there's no reference to the type of skew numbers that i know that ncix used so it's hard for me to say exactly what's going on here but it's really weird really weird i can say that much for sure home slash brand is a really weird mix of like the most generic companies that someone would throw on something ever plus like d lincoln cisco because there's some nzx stuff in there you know what i mean yeah they have microsoft but then they have like mont blanc really weird okay my mp3 oh what is it home slash brand i think so i the page is having a lot of issues for me right now slash brand yeah i'm having a real hard time here i think we hugged it a little bit yeah i think we love hugged it to death okay well that's fine i i i can i can live with what we've seen so far. I think that's, you know, here's what I'll say. Good luck, guys. I truly do wish you the best of luck with the offshoot in really never very successful domain for the us that never had anything in stock

of my if you if you employ uh go to where sorry cs-cart.com you don't actually need to go um and you go through their marketplace software and you select demo which is the specific demo store. We're seeing that everywhere. One of their options, once you jump through it, if you select all the things that you would select if you were NCX, once you get to option five, there's I'm migrating from another e-commerce platform

data transfer. Interesting. Yeah, here, I'm just going to bring this back up. I'm migrating data transfer required. Okay. You know what, though? I really doubt that there'd be, I mean, I guess it would all just be like at the end of the day, there would be a database solution of some sort.

Like I never obviously poked around and So NCIX's was custom coded. For better or for worse, it was their own homebrew thing. Mostly worse. But even if it was some weirdo random thing, the database would contain fields that could be, I guess, if you're willing to get manual enough with it, could be ingested into someone else's platform things like skew or vendor part number or description or color they didn't have a field for color it's like oh really that was why we had to have separate product pages for every single

variant of a device I remember that like oh man weird there were advantages to doing it that way. You know, it meant that when a when a person went on a product page and it said in stock, it was like definitely in stock, not like some variants of it are in stock, except when it wasn't in stock because our stock wasn't accurate a lot of the time, like except for that. I still remember like the amount of pushback internally when the decision was made by the higher-ups to start reflecting in-stock at a nearby supplier as in-stock on the website or in-stock at one of our retail stores as in-stock on the website. Because what that meant was people would order something thinking it's going to ship right away. And most of the time, we could do store transfers, we had trucks going every day to every store.

But most of the time, the the purchaser would like, try to bring one in from outside, because it's actually very time consuming to do interstore transfers. And it would take a couple of days, and people would then get mad. It's like, come on. And even if you do have it in stock at the store, generally speaking, trucks went out in the morning and then back at the end of the day. No, they went to each store and then back. So if it was one of the stores that you hit in the morning, then it might go out that day.

But if it was one of the stores that you hit near the end of the day, then it wouldn't go out that day, and it would be delayed by at least a day. So people would get mad about that as well. It was just stupid. There was a bunch of pushback, but we never changed it and it created so many customer service issues and it was just totally unnecessary.

And lttstore.com will never treat you that way. When we say we're in stock, we are in stock, except when we like actually aren't because it says, guys, this is a pre-printed thing. And I had someone chase me about a preprinted shirt pretty aggressively. Like, wait, why isn't it here yet? Like, well, because we said it was a pre-order campaign. Didn't say it would be there yet.

I'm sorry. So I found NCXUS.com on the Wayback Machine from 2014. Nice. Do you want to send me that link? Hit me on Hangouts. That would be the easiest thing for me to copy into a thing. Wednesday. Okay.

So this is actually from 2016, but the site was still up. All right. Hit me up. I can't believe how long that website was up and like seemingly still taking orders after they had declared bankruptcy and there was no hope of it coming back yeah that was absolutely ridiculous that like should have been a much bigger problem, I think. Waiting for Hangouts to load. Oh, seriously? Oh, right.

I guess you probably don't have that there browser window open there, bud. Got to get that there browser window open, bud. Oh, my goodness. Every module has to take three years to load. There we go. i believe in you all right here we go you guys ready to go way back we're gonna go back on the way back machine ncix us wow look at this is their shop by product look at these categories yeah yeah yeah i know what it is i just you know i know i didn't link you to the home page okay so printers and scanners okay so ctrl f printers i didn't see the mp3 speaker thing

no okay okay so maybe this is just someone else oh i missed the oh i missed the sale event art. That's a weird thing to be nostalgic about, maybe. Hey, Tom, you know what? I know there used to be a website where he archived all that stuff. Oh, man, what was it called? NCIX Banner Vault. Power up for the playoff sales event slashing prices free shipping over a hundred dollars well i think it actually might have been on the banner vault.com it's gone it's gone yeah so here's a thread here's a thread from our forum from a thousand years ago

um thebannervault.com but unfortunately thebannervault.com is down see ya bannervault.com it was nice knowing you yeah so in netlinked weekly episode one you mention it and it is in the description huh all right well that's a shame yeah they were really cool he would spend pretty much most of his week on the sale banner um so like most of the beginning of the week so it was like three days worth of artwork and i really liked his style and then he would work on sort of other graphic designer stuff on the other couple of days i wonder what happened to him he was like he was a good he was a good egg i really liked him really easy to work with and i there's a few people there that like i really miss and they just did not deserve to go down with that ship at all yeah hopefully he's

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But yeah, it's not as cool. It's a bad gift and you're a bad son either way. I thought going to Wayback Machine versions of computer hardware websites and configuring a computer on there that costs a certain amount and then config a computer on there that costs a certain amount and then configuring a computer now that costs a certain amount that's a really cool idea i love it my only reason why i thought it might not be that crazy is because you could literally just

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Yeah, dinosaurs, they fast. You got to watch out. They're fast. All right. We've got some more tech news for you guys uh amd implies rdna2 big navi is going to release for pc before the next gen consoles calling it a halo product so that would mean it should be coming in the next few months given how few um like engineering boards showing up on like you you know, shipping, um,

what are they called? Like, uh, not commercial invoices. What's the other thing that a shipping thing comes with packing lists, like shipping packing lists and stuff. Uh, given how few of those we've seen, um, I don't know. It seems like, uh, that's kind of hard to believe, but also you never know. And if they say they're going to do it, I mean, they've kind of delivered on a lot of stuff lately. So when asked by host blah, blah, blah, AMD CFO Devinder Kumar said,

how should we think about AMD's GPU roadmap? He said, taking the same approach for GPUs that they took on the CPU side. Interesting. So there's a lot of excitement for Navi 2, or what our fans have dubbed Big Navi, and it's a Halo product, which means that we can expect it to compete at the top end of the graphics card market. With that said, it's been so long since AMD has had a competitive product in that segment that, and okay, you know, it's really hard when you've kind

of had a relationship with not just the brand like not just the logo but just with like the people at a company for so many years it's hard to put that history aside but i'll say this you know there's probably a reason that dr sue was the highest paid ceo i think it was last year you see that article no she made like 56 million dollars or something like that with all the performance-based bonuses her base salary is actually very reasonable um i'm gonna dunk her for this year i think that's different though because i think that wasn't performance-based bonus yeah but hold on a second let's I'm just going to check my source here.

So in the S&P 500 last year, earned a total of $58.5 million. Almost $13 million more than whatever. Yeah, so I guess it depends on how it's classified. Is his bonus just like a check? And how is that possibly more than what Bezos got paid? Well, Bezos might have cashed in stock that he owned, but that was not necessarily his compensation. Or gained more stock, potentially? Yeah, but I...

Okay, all right, all right. Look, look, look, look. Hold on a second. Give me a sec, okay? $1 million in base salary. 1.2 million in performance-based bonus. Man, you're making my life difficult here. Sorry.

There's a lot of different ways that CEOs get compensated. And this might just be sort of like one basic way 150 billion dollars yes yes yes yes yes yes yes okay ggr stock gained by oh this is making that's so unfathomably ridiculous it is is a lot of money anyway the point is the point i'm trying to make whatever she got paid a lot and it was all performance-based bonuses the company is a lot of money. Anyway, the point is, the point I'm trying to make, whatever, she got paid a lot and it was all performance-based bonuses. The company is a different company under her as far as I can tell. So even though all these years of interacting with AMD, I've been sort of strung along, strung along, it's going to be really good this time, it's going to be really good this time,

it's going to be really good this time. I've been strung along and disappointed a lot of times, hasn't happened a lot lately so maybe this will be different maybe it's going to be awesome let's let's hope for the best because you know whether it's nvidia's pricing or whether it's their you know relationship with sony and microsoft that's a weird one you know microsoft whatever it is nvidia doesn't seem to be even interested in competing in consoles at least not at whatever margins they can make on them so the better amd does the better an entire generation of gaming hardware is going to be and the better the target that game developers are going to be aiming at with the quality of their games and therefore the better they're going to look on the pc so i'm rooting for big navi there they do switch that's true nvidia is in the switch i forgot about that and

there's kind of a lot of switches being pumped out that's true but the switch doesn't dictate the visual fidelity of an entire generation of games totally i'm just saying it's it's not like nvidia's out of the console space technically that's true the switch yeah and the switch yeah and not the wii u before it or the wii or the gamecube before that the switch yep they got that one they're technically in there so uh they remain on track to launch next generation Zen 3 and RDNA 2 GPUs in late 2020. Regarding who they'll be for, blah, blah, blah, all the way up to Enthusiast,

larger ecosystem. Man, these are a lot of very dense notes with not a lot of takeaway here, but thanks anyway, Anthony. Oh yeah, that would be an Anthony thing. That's the thing is like as much as our writing staff adds so much expertise to our team there i'm i'm 100

sure that there's still a value to having me there just to make it digestible sometimes love you anthony oh one of our other uh one of our other actually pretty exciting looking topics. Xeon 10 nanometer. This is from Alex who posted in here and it's William CLL on the forum. There were three Geekbench 4 submissions of an Ice Lake desktop CPU that appear to be server CPUs. And by desktop, I don't mean desktop versus server. I mean, like,

not a laptop. So they have rumored support for PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 3200, and the specs that we've got from this Geekbench poll are 24 cores, 48 threads, base clock of 2.2 GHz, boost of 2.9.

I can't add up all this cache in my head. 32 kilobytes times 24 go luke that's the level one instruction cache okay you're ready for the level one data cache 48 kilobytes times 24 okay add that to the previous one level two cache 1.25 megabytes times 24 and then we've got a level three cache that's 36 and what is it i have no idea well all right you tried uh so the ice lake chip scored 4100 points single threaded for context intel's current 14 nanometers zeon gold 6212u scores 4772 so that's faster but the new ice lake is much faster in multi-threaded about 9.2 faster so yeah um that's neat i guess and nice we got an answer from chat somebody said it's exactly 69 bytes shut up perfect it is not

beautiful had enough i've had enough i've had enough of your attitude and i've had enough of your lies chat i heard when they announced the uh intel core 10 10 420 that it will have exactly 429 bytes of uh of cash how much fun would it be if intel actually had enough personality to do something like that i'm not i'm not even like like a pothead or whatever like i to me 420 is just like it's just like like like it's just a meme right it's just a number but like a green spreader just yeah exactly just like having enough personality to just be like you know lol we did something and there's gonna be some people mad but we just like issue a statement be like, you know, LOL, we did something and there's going to be some people mad. But we just like issue a statement, be like, yeah, you know, we're sorry.

You're sorry. We're sorry. You're mad. You know, just issue like a total non apology for it and move on. Because realistically, at the end of the day, people don't buy CPUs based on like their close relationship with the values of the brand. At least I don't. then again maybe maybe some people do uh so you know i can't i can't imagine you'd lose that many customers based on just doing like a silly edition cpu once in a while then again you know what do what do i know right like look at all

the pr disasters i've created for myself this week so i'm the last person i'm the last person they should put in charge of marketing it would be okay so the the memory of the numbers aside yeah it would be kind of fun if every once in a while they they release like really limited runs just weird processors they just they just can't do it and i don't i don't know why like it's not like they don't have ideas like doing uh you know uh uh uh an anodized black integrated heat spreader for example it's just like the the machine the machine is just too big to do even 10 000 units or something imagine the extreme editions had anodized black they They should. They even have artwork. They even have artwork of them that kind of like look like they're darker. Yeah, of course they do.

They know it would be cool. That would be so cool. Like, do you remember we did that gold-plated 8086? The Core i7-8086? Yeah. Dude, just imagine like anodized black with a gold plated gold plated uh skull trail skull on it i know right that would be the sickest looking processor ever just like oh my god i know like that's the kind of thing that i'd be like ah sorry how much more is this

than the one i like how much am i gonna lose selling my current one like how much more does this cost like am i in it for like 70 bucks like i'd kind of think about it yeah but for whatever reason it's hard to be cool and i guess i get it. Oh man, that would be so sweet. Like there isn't even that much stuff that gets me like that excited with computer hardware. And you'll never even see it because it's like hidden. Yeah.

Doesn't even matter. It's just so cool. All right. We've got a couple of other things. Vegetable Stew on the forum posted this. Since 2012, Apple has been attempting to automate installing micro screws for the assembly of iPhones and search. So here's a quote from the Apple engineers. Building a robot that can fasten screws is among the hardest challenges in the

industry. A robot must pick up the screw at a specific angle and align it with a hole using multiple industrial cameras. Apple uses screws that are so tiny that robots had no way to measure the force used to drill them in. Whereas by contrast, human workers can feel the resistance from their hand and can tell when something is off. It might seem like getting a robot to do something as simple as install a screw should be very simple, but even just picking up a screw in the right orientation can be very difficult. In 2014, Apple attempted to automate the assembly of the 12-inch MacBook, but they eventually stopped because the 88 screws in the keyboard kept malfunctioning, leading to a delay in release of six months. So Anthony included some notes here, thinking about the force required to install like an M2 or an M1 screw. It's like basically nothing and really

fiddly. Getting the robot to tell the difference between cross-threading that or just like a generous portion of Loctite sounds almost impossible so that's just a cool news item i have no idea what we were supposed to say about that anthony but thank you for contributing or alex thank you for contributing that uh do you want to talk about fog gaming sure it's pretty fogged up gaming but when the clouds are close to your house that actually sounds pretty cool luke i think you're being a hater but it's like i think you're gonna end up making an apology video but they're maybe i will because maybe i don't understand what's going on that would be very very fair but as far as i can tell it's basically just cloud gaming for only people in Japan. Yes. Okay, so...

Maybe even more local than that. Maybe it's only people within a certain vicinity of this previous arcade. So what they're doing, it's a cool idea. Hopefully, so they don't have to close these down completely.

But Sega has around 200 arcades spread across Japan. And they've been pretty unused due to well you know covid stuff just the reason why almost every storefront has been pretty unused yeah so i've been trying to think about something to do with the servers and the pcs that they have in those centers hopefully try to monetize a little bit if they can right so they came up with this whole idea of fog gaming where it's cloud cloud gaming, right? It's still cloud gaming, but these local arcades are the things that are powering it.

So the data center is super close, essentially, because it's the arcade. Yeah, because it's not a data center. It's just like actually a few blocks over. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's super cool. I mean, I don't necessarily know that sega's

implementation is super exciting to me i don't live in japan yeah and whatever like games they're running i i have i have no idea if i would care about any of them but imagining sort of a future uh where you know it almost sounds like the kind of thing that you know someone's going to try and build on the blockchain or something like that like where you can contribute your gpu power to someone else gaming and join this like gaming network or something um kind of like the the the tesla's idea of like you can rent your car while you're not using it exactly so it's like instead of like so nvidia they've got their like geforce gtx or rtx where you like buy the hardware then they've got their geforce now where you can like

rent the hardware then they've got their like geforce everywhere where it's like you can kind of like uh like an electrical grid right you could uh pay to use the grid or you could contribute any access back to the grid so if you look at like the really cool demos that microsoft did uh where they were offloading some of the processing to the cloud like back when they first launched the xbox one x um it's not impossible to imagine a future where i could have, let's say, an RTX 2060, for example, and I could go, oh, gee, you know what? I really want to enjoy some game X in the highest possible fidelity. And my neighbors aren't using their RTX 2080s. And all of a sudden I can take their processing power and use it to power my game.

I mean, probably that's completely unfeasible, but maybe one neighbor, as long as the connection between me and them is good, I could sort of have a temporary graphics card upgrade. And then maybe at some other time, you know, someone with integrated graphics on their laptop could use my RTX 2060 for like a lower rate of return, right? So I obviously wouldn't get to loan my card out for as much and then i would have to kind of pay the difference if i wanted to loan even more power to myself but that that would be pretty cool like a fog gaming concept like that would not eliminate the latency problems there'd still be latency especially if you're the kind of person who's a competitive gamer it's

unlikely to me that we're ever going to get to the point where playing on anything other than local hardware is going to give you the the ultimate competitive edge but for just playing like casual games it's it's hard to say ever because like in in like 40 years who knows what's even going to be going on but But like speed of light, Luke. Speed of light, right? Unless they're going to put a data center on every city block, it ain't happening. I mean, they could do that. They could do that.

Just start putting them all underground and just everywhere. Nothing's impossible. You're right. But there's nothing you can do about physical distance other than bring the compute closer to the user and this could conceivably be a way to do it yeah there's at least one person in chat

that's freaking out about Starlink to do with this I think with Starlink Starlink's great I'm not talking down on Starlink but this would not that's not that would not be a fog style if you wanted to do something like that over starlink whoa for one for two you would just do traditional cloud gaming for sure yep yep light and fiber does not move at the speed of light we know it's okay don't worry about it's

fine there are there are still practical limitations to how fast it can move that's the point yep yep corsair recalling power supplies nah that's very boring corsair recalled some power supplies they had a bad batch um yeah i mostly just wanted to like tell people yeah it's like an sfx series one you probably don't have one um october 2019 to march 2020 they had some bad ones um there's a new aio from thermal take that cools your cpu and ram i'm sort of afraid to look at the picture of it here we go here we go wow it's i bet it's just got to be a block of rgb that's my yep yeah nailed it hashtag nailed it thank you luke for that did you how far how deep into your crystal ball did you have to look to see that one it was pretty surface level not gonna lie all right and then you had some

thoughts on the uh kylehaliday.com ray tracing in notepad uh post here just just don't back yourself into a corner where you have to issue an apology video here that's all i ask luke uh it's it's i mean it's cool i think one of one of the notes says holidays project uh great name for a software developer by the way holidays project is a great showcase of what can be achieved by combining little hacks and that's i mean yeah it's super neato it's like i don't i don't want anyone to be like oh my god is there gonna be games in notepad he never says that no one else is saying that i don't want literally no one is saying that no one no one is it it's a really cool little hacky project

i like things like this they're fun um he built like a snake game with it that's neat it's pretty cool it's it's like yeah i i this kind of stuff is is cool um but yeah i just like someone's like fog gaming and starlink i just you know don't jump too far with it it's a very adorable state game though yeah i kind of love it yeah wow with the uh line spacing you really run into trouble with the with the uh the speed of the snake when you're going up and down versus side to side yeah i mean he never said the gameplay was great no no no no but it is cool it's really interesting how he got there um it's yeah this

kind of stuff is really fun this is a really cool way to get into if you if this looks interesting to you is a really cool way to get into software development and and learning how to like be hacky with things in in cool productive ways well not necessarily super productive in this in this case but and it all depends on how you've defined cool also that but i think it's cool like i probably wouldn't i probably wouldn't whip out my my blog at like the bar to depends which bar yeah honestly this snake game could go really far in the right bar says someone who is really a very large amount of time in bars yeah i i know for a fact that you know very little about how bars work then that you know very little about how bars work then again

i know very little about how bars work too i know you gotta pass one if you want to be a lawyer i've got that i know that you you got to do it again if you want to reinforce concrete um okay yeah rebar yeah no that was good that's good i uh yeah i assume there's bars in silicon valley where if you whipped out your snake game and notepad you'd have a crowd like almost immediately okay all right and on that note i think this would this would do great yeah so there you guys have it luke's pickup tips here on the WAN show. Try them out. Try them out. It could work if you find the right person. It could work.

All right. Let's do a couple of super chats. Yasuji says, I think I played a significant role in the recent Twitter drama and wanted to apologize. Oh, no, no, don't worry. You're good. You're good. It's all good. When they lose the snake game, it could print on screen like you lost the game but you could win a date with me oh lordy oh man Oh, man. Terrible. It's funny because I made it worse. I reduced your chances.

Don't do that part. Do the first part, though. Oh, this is kind of crazy. The Internet Archive is being sued. What? By who? Okay, when Internet Archive announced it was created a national emergency library temporarily suspending wait lists to borrow ebooks and in a pandemic a crowd of writers and publishers made their um if you do either please film it and show me okay i don't know enough about this to comment on it yet but but thank you for your super chat. I will try and have a look at it later.

Thanks, Metal Gappy. Thanks, Yurij Tarade. Chris McKenzie says, great value super chat. Yeah, it's up to you. I mean, I guess it was two bucks. You didn't really invest much, so there's that. Robert Mail says, won't be able to watch live this month. Pretend this super chat is something topic relevant.

Also mc.ltt.gg. Thanks, Robert. Literally pays me to promote my own Minecraft server. He seems to be very confused about how this works, but that's okay. It's adorable. Kadefa says, Two bones for Linus's beard leveling up. Thank you.

Uh, James, Hey Linus, I spent a decent amount of money on supers to ask questions that often don't get answered. Wow. You really wasted this one. No, just kidding. There's a question in here. Would you consider doing videos or streams dedicated to responding to missed supers? Oh, oh wow. No, you really did waste it wow what a bummer i really i saw it this time and uh the answer is no i'm afraid oh crap this is awkward um yeah no i mean i do stream uh games like uh like beat saber and stuff and if people ask me questions during those i like try to answer them and it tends to be a much smaller crowd because wancho is like between 10 and 15 000 viewers typically so chat moves too fast like even the super chat

moves too fast sometimes uh whereas those streams get like hundreds of viewers by comparison um impulsimist says i recently started watching your vids because I'm going to buy and build my own. Any tips? Watch more vids. Watch more vids? Yeah! Woo! And save your money.

Buy a better PC instead of sending super chats to ungrateful YouTubers. There you go. That's a free tech tip. It's like I haven't had enough shooting myself in the foot for one week you know i gotta keep going that if you send more super chats in higher values your computer goes faster did you hear that who'd you hear that from the the sending of the super

chat alleviates some of the weight on the ram subsystem of your computer yeah who'd you hear that from you more ram uh don't listen to lyle he lies you've all heard that downloading ram doesn't work uploading ram however highly effective yeah so the harder you get rammed by wasting your money on someone's super chats, the more RAM you have. Yeah. That's pretty graphic. All right. Tommy Gun says,

can you do a build in your old DJ-07? Loved that case. No one using it anymore. That would be pretty fun. It's actually right behind me under this pile of stuff. Yeah, you guys can kind of see the pile back there. But probably not anytime soon. All right. Robert says, stuff yeah you guys can kind of see the pile back there um but probably not anytime soon all right uh robert says my ram shows 16 gigs 8 usable do you think it's a bad cpu man that's weird i feel like i've seen that before but i don't

remember where if you're using onboard memory i still i don't think an onboard GPU is going to even allow you to allocate like 8 gigs to it. Am I wrong? Is that possible? Actually, can you allocate 8 gigs of RAM to your onboard memory or to your onboard GPU? I have no idea. I can't. You know what? I'm sure someone else posted on the forum.

You got to post it on Linus Tech Tips forum. Thanks, Mike Adams. All right. right just gonna do a couple more here uh hugh holmes asks can an lt t-shirt save my marriage the best way to save your marriage hugh is to stop wasting your money on super chats and spend them on your wife or husband you won't know until you try luke did you just say you won't know until you try luke did you just say you won't know until you try if super chats are going to save your marriage or the ltc shirt oh really ltcstore.com yeah here i here i am trying to give people good advice luke i'm trying to give people good advice i'm trying to but if they appeal to said marriage partner through a super chat and that marriage partner watches the WAN show and then you say it, that could be interpreted as a romantic gesture. But then what if I got it wrong? Okay. So what if,

so what if someone sends me a super chat, right? To get me to shout out their wife or their husband to try to save their marriage. And then inadvertently I say, I shout it out. I'm like, yeah, this is a good marriage. It's worth saving. And then, and then it ends up being a bad marriage and not worth saving. And then I have to do an apology video again. What if the marriage, what if they were better off having never met each other, Luke? Then what? That's just, that's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes, you know? Just gotta make apology videos all right thanks ancient moros and steven rodriguez who demands that zoons come back good luck with that that would be i mean in today's day and age horrible but back then i actually really liked zoom i never

had any money so i didn't buy one but i really liked the software that i used anyways theorica don't worry it's all good i don't actually have a neighbor really like the software that i used anyways theorica don't worry it's all good i don't actually have a neighbor that dumps grass over my fence it's chill uh mgs otacon says i applied for the me position on the site and was wondering what made you guys want to get more into product dev hope my resume catches an eye or two um i just have a bunch of ideas for stuff that i think we could make for lttstore.com that require a mechanical engineer who actually has time to work on mechanical engineering. Alex has done a great job on some of the projects that he's working on right now,

but he just also needs to like be a writer. So that's why. That's why we've got some stuff that we feel like needs to be made and there's no one here to make it. So we're going to hire someone to make it. That's how you do it. Milky Moth says says this is my first time watching the land show love your content want to show some support well thank you very much appreciate it and rafael says do a video about everyone's mbti and big five personality types please what is an mbti i hope i haven't like oh man i hope i haven't said something that's just

like horrible or something it's oh oh myer briggs thing yeah um i'm whatever the like angry short one is the little dog little dog syndrome which one's little dog syndrome we we did this at float plane a while back and it was actually yeah oh that's kind of cool it wasn't even my idea um aj aj i'm pretty sure aj came up with it but yeah most most of them i was like yeah that makes sense like there wasn't there wasn't any that really were were all that surprising all right why don't you do me that came up i don't remember any time um well i've got it up on the screen what you got to use the questions on the outside of the chart to determine the four letters okay analyze me you put the anal and analyze i know you do is he muted okay e for sure okay so i'm i'm extroversion you wouldn't describe me as private

though no so well okay yeah but if i have to pick one or the other you're definitely e and in this case the e is like font size 72 and the next three letters are going to be like normal like font size 18 like there's just this giant e at the beginning dang and it goes on to the rest of it it's like the mulcan uh markiplier e meme comes back and just places an e right at the beginning of your all right so i'm definitely ending up on the bottom of the chart here that's uh that's a strong that's a strong start here strong start oh you cut back i can't see it now oh oh i'm sorry you were actually using my thing oh it's just on wikipedia but yeah okay all right i'll leave it up i'll leave it up okay i found it hold on okay i'll take it down

all right it's down it's down we're all good we're all good we got this okay the next one is i could see it going... Yeah, this is what I'm saying. These ones are more like font size 18. This one I could kind of see going either way. I have experienced you acting in both ways separately. I think I would go with S.

I'm sensing. Pay attention to concrete facts and details. Don't run your mouth and have to make an apology video because you were a jerk. No, that's not in there. That doesn't seem right. I prefer ideas that have practical applications. Okay, I definitely prefer practical applications,

but I also like stuff for their own sake. I don't know. I give up. I could see you very much going either way on that. I don't know. I give up. I could see you very much going either way on that. I don't know. I think the rest are all going to kind of be flexible. I was trying to figure you out at the same time. And like, honestly, you know,

looking at even extroversion versus introversion, you know, there are times when you could totally be described as talkative and outgoing, but then also I'd probably lean you more towards the eye side but it's just not that simple you know yeah yeah i think that's what a lot of this ultimately is and for me when i do this e and i tend to flip depending on like when i take the test yeah oh yeah totally and even things like thinking versus feeling like you definitely enjoy finding flaws in an argument.

He likes finding flaws in arguments. And you could be described as reasonable and level headed. But I would also say you are warm and empathetic and you value harmony and forgiveness. So it's like, it's tough, right? Yeah. I think it's, it's too dependent on the scenario and people people you know people kind of flow like water sometimes and you gotta yeah i don't know you gotta just hold out your hands and uh catch them you know and drink them up what you gotta do it's a tough job someone's gotta do it some of the quotes from this show are gonna be ridiculous all right thank you guys very much for uh tuning in oh hold on i got uh one more one more uh super chat here uh jack says uh my girlfriend is brand new to pc gaming thanks to you do you

have a game recommendation for her um thanks for all you do also hey luke all right so luke what's your game recommendation uh breath of the wild yeah yeah that was a waste of 20 bucks jack animal crossing everyone on the planet seems to like that game no no he asked for a pc he asked for a pc game recommendation that's why i'm messing with i mean you can play probably both of those games on pc you can definitely play breath of the wild on pc that's true technically buy a copy of it that you then like bury in your backyard or whatever but all right i hope you guys enjoyed the show we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye uh where's the thing hold on a second there it is all right rolling that intro outro whatever it is rafael super chat Soylent drink people Yeah well I'm like Soylent green The Soylent thing that like you can buy now

Is not people as far as I know Although if I might say that And it turns out to be people I'd have to make another Apology video That would suck It was like Oh man I like Felt like I was walking into like a a court hearing or something

like walking down to set to shoot that i really didn't want to do it wasn't it was a good video well no but i wanted i wanted to do it like i wouldn't have written it if i didn't want to do it but i really was uncomfortable doing it anyway all right i gotta end the show sorry bye guys bye