The WAN Show - THE BIG REVEAL - WAN Show April 29, 2022

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

Get 20% off your first Mack Weldon order at mackweldon.com/wanshow and promo code "wanshow"  Get a 60-day free trial of stress-free shipping by going to https://shipstation.com Don't forget to click on the microphone at the top of the page and type in WAN Timestamps: (Courtesy of NoKi1119 - NOTE: Timestamps may be off due to change in sponsors) 0:00 Chapters 0:58 Intro 1:32 LTTStore satin eggshell shirts ft. Sarah 2:47 Topic #1 - Apple removes unused, outdated apps 9:30 Revealing written notes so far 13:18 Topic #2 - Calling Head of Labs ft. OBS shenanigans 17:45 Interviewing Gary 23:30 Lab one to become Linked media 27:02 Expected amount of Labs hiree 33:40 LMG to require more field experts in the future 35:34 LTTStore original constellation shirt returned 37:48 Topic #3 - Teamviewer called Linus once more 41:37 TELUS bothering Anthony, discussing PureFibre & Shaw 50:40 Topic #4 - Apple's self-service repair program 52:12 Repairable parts, guides & price discount 53:49 Most happy thing to be about, right to repair 55:03 Apple's website compared with Steam Deck 59:36 Availability of parts & effect on the environment 1:02:09 Linus tired of Fold's low battery 1:03:49 Merch Messages #1 1:04:25 How much money would Linus accept to sell LMG 1:07:56 Linus not selling LMG 1:11:51 Lawyer moment, Yvonne's contribution & relationship 1:18:45 Umbrella organization, removal of "Linus" branding 1:21:50 Going public for funds, offers on LMG would not matter 1:23:22 Linus the control freak 1:24:36 Sponsors 1:27:35 Floatplane's amazing pitch for Squarespace 1:28:50 Topic #5 - LMG's day off, Game Gear pre-show debate 1:29:44 LMG went bowling, Boston Pizza & watched Uncharted 1:31:20 Modding Game Gear's display 1:36:52 Hot Wheels PC mods 1:37:09 Merch Messages #2 1:37:16 Preferred VR controllers for Beat Saber 1:42:45 Linus reads about AYA Neo Air 1:44:34 Dream product to sell on LTTStore 1:45:41 Topic #6 - SEGA pulls off old Sonic games from stores 1:50:55 Linus's & Luke's products & ideas 1:58:01 Merch Messages #3 1:58:07 Oura Ring & mandatory paid subscription 1:59:48 Linus's creative process in 2022 LTT 2:02:16 Linus recalls a dream idea, Nintendo IPs, BotW 2:04:59 LTTStore backpack & screwdriver notifications 2:09:42 Topic #7 - Twitter accepts Elon Musk's offer 2:10:00 Luke thinks Elon was scammed, compare with Amazon's Twitch purchase 2:11:17 Twitter's & other companies' R&D in 2021, Luke's baffled 2:19:54 Linus on Billionares buying unprofitable companies 2:22:15 Merch Messages #4 2:22:20 Preferred ways to play old games 2:25:35 Labs profitability, changing the direction of the industry 2:28:33 Linus on the future of LMG, forums post & merchandise 2:35:18 Linus's "we're leaving" home video, top 3 memorial notes 2:40:23 Intel's Alder Lake-X, higher end desktop market 2:45:00 What Linus & Luke do when in a funk 2:55:50 Topic #8 - Twitch's take on unintrusive ads 3:02:05 Merch Messages #5 3:02:12 Floatplane compared to Twitch 3:05:44 Linus Marriage Tips, wedding bands 3:09:56 How long was Linus married for & whether to dive into one 3:11:08 LTTStore cargo pants & jorts ideas 3:11:38 Skill or hobby wishing to have more time for 3:13:17 Hardest & easiest part of leaving the home 3:14:51 LTTStore constellations purchases update 3:16:50 Possible return of PC or no PC shirt 3:17:53 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What is up, ladies and gentlemen? We've got a fantastic man show for you guys today. First and foremost, we are going to be finally revealing the head of LTT Labs. Yes, we have actually done a test call. It went really smoothly. Luke did such a good job of getting it done in an extremely expedient and timely manner. In other news, Apple has launched their self-service repair program. We're going to be talking about that. What else we got? Nothing. There is no other

topics on the show at all. Actually, no. Sega is removing old Sonic games from the store. And in a particularly fun turn of events, Apple, I can't actually find this topic, but Apple has decided that if you don't update your app for a long enough period of time, it's just going to be removed from the store. Even if it works fully with all new phones and all new devices, it's gone. Get rid of it. It's getting deleted.

Let's get rid of this intro. Alright. This is going to be good. All right. This is going to be good. We are going to get into those topics, but first, Sarah waited until well after work hours remember to lock your hours so she was sitting around hanging around getting paid overtime so it's not that bad i guess but she's here so that she and i can painstakingly handcraft that's right satin versions of the shirt the eggs, okay? So they're covered in

little bits of painter's tape that is actually silkscreened on so that is never coming off. And then Sarah, there's some little cue cards here. Can you explain what it is that we're doing with these? Because legitimately I actually forget. So I think I just need to do it while you explain to me what I'm doing.

Okay, so I actually never really got confirmation on what you were doing either But you said two hand shows ago That you were going to write notes for these So I guess you're just writing notes for these Notes Well I don't know how about You draw a picture and then I'll

Write a note Is that a deal I think I just got marker all over you Can I draw dinosaurs? You can draw anything you want You should review the dinosaurs Oh my gosh Or you should like create a name

And a history for the dinosaurs Okay so Sarah you're up you're first Luke do you want to get us started with A topic while Sarah and I work on this Yeah for sure do you want me to dive into that Apple one? Sure yeah that would be sarah are you putting tape on the shirts hold on i need drawings to label oh yeah and we're also going to add some some hand-added little bits of actual painters tapes it's going to be great it's going to be great uh yeah so the the apple topic if if

you don't update your app for a long enough period of time apple wants to just remove it from the store um which is great because if an app works perfectly fine but you're just like not putting in the work to you know uh smooth the lines okay curve the corners and that's i mean this this is an extremely good point because this is my whole problem with the whole situation is like if the if the core idea of this program was hey your app has been throwing an excessive amount of errors like so they have this they have these statistics right they have like your app versus apps that compare to yours and then they have error rates and stuff.

So they can show you like, are you relatively industry standard in terms of your crash rates and error rates and stuff? And they'll have like, sometimes they'll spike way above that. And it's like, whoa, you need to fix something. If it was like, okay, your app hasn't been updated in two years

and it's just throwing errors like crazy and it's crashing all the time and it's just a horrible mess, we want to remove from the store unless you fix some things. That is much more understandable to me um but there's genuinely a significant amount of applications that just like work fine and they're like hasn't been updated in a while so they want to remove it um i believe a genuinely would make it past them easy way to fix this by the way for any developers out there that

are potentially listening is literally just a version bump i actually don't think you have to change anything um so i would suggest doing that it's unfortunate that you have to do that to like preserve things uh i personally have an app on the android store that I've had that hasn't received an update in I think like four years, and it still works completely flawlessly and has worked with every single phone I've ever migrated it to. So I hope Google doesn't go down the same route because I would like to keep using that app. And I don't think the company that made it like literally exists anymore. So I don't think it will be getting an update. But yeah, several developers took to Twitter last Saturday complaining that Apple was taking their apps down from the

store within 30 days because they had not updated in a significant amount of time. Apple demanded that the developers must submit an update within that 30 days in order to keep it on the store. This is part of Apple's what they're calling app improvement system, which is a plan to remove abandoned and problematic apps from the app store, which was launched in 2016. Again, the problem here is when they're not, when they're just removing things

that they are deeming abandoned, not when they're removing things that are problematic. Because an app can genuinely, especially certain like self-contained games and stuff can get to a point where they are completed they don't need further updates they don't have user-generated content um they don't have future features they just work and it's fine um and i don't think developers should have to keep working on that um how many of these are we doing fix okay hold on uh you're on the last one then okay yes luke good job thanks uh it's worth pointing out that apps removed from the app

store remain available uh for re-down. It just won't be listed for sale or free download to new users, which is like cool, I guess, but not great. This has also raised several concerns, which read like questions, but are in fact open questions being asked by the community. For indie developers, so indie developers just appear

to be disproportionately targeted. That makes sense. Indie developers aren't going to be able to be disproportionately targeted, that makes sense. Indie developers aren't going to be able to long term maintain as many apps and might make something that say it's a purchase game, not a subscription game. And there's no micro transactions, those games usually have a shorter tail on them. So if they make something, it's great, it sells really well for a year, say and stop stop selling you want to keep it on the store because maybe you still get sales every once in a while you want people that own the game from the past to be able to download it more easily even if they switch accounts or something

and doesn't need an update but yeah that makes sense if an app is complete and works on modern devices what is uh the reason for an update well there isn't one. That would be my answer to it. Does this kind of requirement incentivize developers to release rushed slash broken apps or respond slowly to bug reports to keep the possibilities for updates open? Honestly, for that one? No, I don't think so. Because again, I'm pretty sure you can get by with just a version bump. And if you can't get by with a version bump, you should be able to get by with like changing the color of a line and also version bumping.

So I would go that route if people really want to keep their stuff up there. There is a discussion question from, I believe the writer of this was Anthony Young. If games are art, then does this effectively mean that Apple is asking for art to be constantly updated whether it needs it or not yes that is specifically what they're doing i definitely

agree with that uh how would we feel about this standard being applied to tv shows movies famous paintings sculptures etc so seinfeld pretty bad removed if they don't you know add more jokes or remove bad jokes certain greek statues just have like progressively longer members over time i love it um well we really felt it needed arms this is this is v arms.o um well the concept of an always changing piece of art itself is arguably art yeah i could think of situations like that that could be interesting think of art slash place okay hold on sabian 1001 says seinfeld doesn't have abandoned library dependencies in it seinfeld well yeah it's saying that you know if an app has abandoned library dependencies and that could actually be a

legitimate problem and there could be a reason for apple to do this but that would like throw errors and have yeah that would fall under what i was talking about before yeah but i wasn't listening because i was busy okay okay okay drawing on dinosaur so what i was saying was is like i get it if it is like way above it's fine you don't have to catch me i think it's stupid yeah cool nice all right agree now sarah are you ready for you to react to my changes? Or should we just let Luke react to them? Sarah did the Sharpie and I added the pen. So I will let you. These are the little cards that are going to come

with the random satin versions of the eggshell shirt. One in each size. Ready and go. I like it. I dig it. Yeah, that's good. That's an improvement on the overall theme that was going on there also definitely that's so far my favorite one actually yeah okay okay that's good not i still think the second one's my favorite one but that's these are all these are all better Yeah, I like that one too. Okay, yeah, these are good.

I think you might have got better over time. Also solid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Sarah. Now you get to see how inappropriate I made your cards. I think she'll like them. Okay, wait. Is this like a live reaction or what?

Yeah, yeah. These are, by the way, the best dinosaur drawings I've ever done. You can describe them. You can hold them up for the people so they can actually see. Should I zoom in? Sure, yeah, zoom in. Zoom in on Sarah. She's hosting the show now.

Thanks, Dan. This is Sarah's show now. Wow. It says satin bring actual size. This will come with a small t-shirt. Okay, small t-shirt. Great. Oh, so you get to decide who they go to.

Yeah. Okay, Sarah has that power officially now. Yes. Okay. This one is fantastic. Satin paint. It took me a while to find the swear button I didn't move it did I?

no no I'm just slow that's something good I think this is my favorite drawing of all of them I added horns and uh I just put satin paint yeah I was gonna say I thought that was my weakest, actually. Oh, it's so cute, though.

Your drawing is very cute. Well, the drawing is you. I'm just complimenting myself. This one is good, too. The pterodactyl is bringing you some eggshell paint. It says, you're welcome, idiot. Oh, no. says you're welcome idiot oh no

this one is my favorite that one's really good what actually killed the dinosaurs hit in the head by satin paint whoever gets these you're very lucky these are one of a kind masterpieces I forget what that was.

NFTs, if you will. But not actually. Oh, yeah. The Something Sarapod is doing some satin paint. Let's call it a Diplodocus. And his buddy, the pterosaur, is like gross.

Incredible. All right. Thank you for sticking around and doing this with us, Sarah. This was a lot of fun. It is entirely up to you which one goes to who. Those are one-of-a-kind masterpieces. Do you want to sign them so that whoever gets them gets an original butt? Okay.

I'll just write butt on them. Yeah, that's perfect. And not in the actual script you use to sign things okay she knows she knows all right let's get it framed thank you very much sarah for coming on the show with us and participating in that and thank you for throwing together this t-shirt design in literally an hour and a half now that's productivity yeah good good work sarah let's go now every time it takes longer than an hour and a half, I'm going to be like, well, Sarah did it in an hour and a half. So that's the standard around here now.

All right. Why don't we jump into the big topic for the day, which is, of course, the official announcement of the head of LTT Labs. Can I get a drum roll, please? I'm the only one drum rolling. Okay, all of you at home You guys are doing it I'm sure you're doing it

Okay, here we go Are we ready to welcome to the show? Is this actually gonna work? Theoretically The one, the only There he is Gary Key Alright, hey Gary

You wanna hit me with some voice noises? Please, give me some voice. I don't know if you're gonna be able to hear him. I don't think I can hear him. We can't hear him. Okay, so I'll tell you what. Why don't I give you guys a brief rundown of exactly who this guy is

while we get his voice working. Gary is one of the people who taught me pretty much everything that i um ever learned about technology okay he's one of the if i recall correctly one of the original half a dozen or so writers at anand tech yeah a lot for me too just to throw that in there yep so between between gary uh dr ian cuttriss anand um i want to say i don't remember his full name but raja gil uh those guys were really in my opinion the team that had a non-tech at its peak and this was back in the early 2000s so uh gary has been on the

manufacturer side i'll let him give you guys the full details there but he's been on the manufacturer side. I'll let him give you guys the full details there, but he's been on the manufacturer side for probably about, goodness gracious, I guess it's been almost 10 years now. Once we get his voice working so that I can actually hear him, that'll be great. It should be working.

It should be working? Gary, hit me. The stream might be able to hear it. Can they hear him? We can't hear it. I can't see Gary. You can't see him? Oh, no. Guys, we couldn't.

Oh, actually, his frame isn't letting up, so the system is not hearing him either. Okay, cool. So I'm going to keep stalling for time. Keep going. Good luck. Trying to think of what categories Gary handled back in the day. I know that

he handled motherboards. I don't know what else, but in his time at ASUS, I can tell you guys that he's made his way up to, if I recall correct, you know what, I'm not going to say what his title was before he left, because if I get it wrong,

then it's going to be really really awkward embarrassing when he when he pops on stream says no they can't hear i mean at this point should i just call him and then just to hold him up to the microphone because like oh i just saw i i'm seeing audio yay there we go how you doing gary i am great so we finally get to announce it all right i did i do okay did i kind of cover what the heck it is that you you did at some point oh they still can't hear him oh fantastic well then we'll just get a recap but but they still can't hear you. Oh, no. Why does the stream not have him, Dan? They're supposed to.

Yeah, no, there's nothing. Gary, say something again. I see it. I literally see it coming through. I see it in OBS. I'm so confused. Oh, he's super quiet. He's super quiet.

Turn him up. Crank him. Okay. No, no, no. Leave it on your side Gary don't touch anything We'll get Dan to crank you up Fantastic Okay Don't you just love it when a plan comes together

Yeah I do We had a whole test call but I was doing other stuff Is that better? I can go louder Okay go Gary I do. We had a whole test call, but I was doing other stuff. Is that better? I go louder. Okay, go, Gary. Okay, those levels look good. Yep.

Okay. All right. Let's hope that they can hear you. So why don't you start with giving us a little rundown of what did you used to do at Anand Tech? I was the senior. No, they cannot hear him they cannot hear you nothing how is that even possible I am watching the levels right now it's good oh thank goodness okay Gary run us through what do you used to do at an on tech and when did you leave I don't even remember all the details. Yeah, I started there in 2005 and left in 2009. And was a senior editor, primarily on motherboards. But then dabbled in SSDs at the beginning of that.

Video cards and mice and, yeah, whatever else Anand had. Now, tell me something, you went over to the manufacturing side. And what were the what were the factors that caused that to happen? Because, I mean, one of the things I talked about when we first announced the lab was that we were trying to we were trying to stop a perceived trend in in my eyes of experienced and knowledgeable media personalities heading over to the manufacturing side when and and becoming essentially effectively disappearing tainted yeah disappeared or tainted i mean yeah anand is disappeared yeah and then i don't want to name any names but i think there are some that have gone over to the other side that honestly, you just kind of can't take everything they're saying seriously anymore. So what were the factors that pushed you over to

the manufacturer side? I had actually spent so much time working with the various manufacturers, manufacturers, almost doing consulting work and testing. And yeah, decided if that was the majority of my job, why not do it at the manufacturer? Do you feel like you ended up actually making... So wait, so your first gig at... Did you go straight to asus i thought so yes i went straight to asus okay so then your first gig with them was not marketing then uh no i i i've been in marketing the entire time oh interesting so i started out in technical Oh, interesting. got it got it got it yeah that makes sense that you were in technical marketing at the beginning because i was looking at it going yeah you've been in more of like a strategic like a pr sort

of marketing role as opposed to you know actually being the contact that i get on the phone with when some voltage won't adjust in the bios or whatever it's been a lot of years since then yes there's been a lot of years still a lot of phone calls though so i gotta tell you something um when when i made that video talking about the lab there was actually only one name that i really had in mind to run it and it was you which actually no now that i think of it i think i did tell you that which really didn't help my negotiating position when i was when we were trying to figure this out um But I want you to talk to the people. How exciting is it to come back to the media side and start covering things other than just one brand? Oh, no. It's really hard for me to explain. It's very exciting. I am so pumped about doing this. It's a brilliant opportunity to expand what we're doing on the manufacturer side, but back on the media side.

manufacturer side, but back on the media side. There are so many different products that I've wanted to get into as far as testing, also testing competing products, right? That was part of our job in technical marketing. But, yeah, I'm really looking forward to this, Um, but yeah, I, I'm really looking forward to this, uh, being able to truly take a deep dive, uh, into what makes the product tick, uh, and why, and then why that's important, uh, for the consumer. So now, you know, that, um, there's going to be a lot of pressure to execute here, right? I mean, one of the things with labs is that it's...

You know, I think we've done a great job over the last 12 years here at Linus Media Group of getting lighting sparks, you know? We run around, we light fires, and then we kind of, like, run away. If people want to go deeper, a lot of the time our answer

is, well, we can point you to more technical resources for that. But we got to make more videos. But the reality of it is, with the breadth of products that we cover, we can't go that deep in any particular category. And your job is essentially to fix that. And there's something that I kind of, I kind of popped this on Gary, uh, about,

I guess, two, three hours ago. Um, he didn't know this, but remember lab one that I showed all of you guys and including Gary, cause obviously you saw the video, man, this guy took so long to apply. I had to send so many texts. I was like, Hey, I know you saw that video because I know you watch the videos. F*** is your resume. He's like, I'll get it to you. I'll get it to you.

I'll get it to you. I haven't made one in a long time, okay? The freaking guy. Anywho. Anywho. So Lab 1 is officially dead. It's out. It's gone.

Do you know this yet? i well we talked about it being sure potential thing i didn't know it was actually happening um where's that coming from stop okay lab one is done it's out so what i think we're going to do with that is we're going to turn it into like uh linked media or something like that. So TechLinked starts doing more talk links, more tech longer. So we expand the programming for TechLinked. Maybe we add like GameLinked on Tuesdays and Thursdays or something like that.

So we're publishing five days a week. We build some awesome sets in there for whether it's tech longer, whether it's talk links so that we don't have to move things around all the time, which is one of the big reasons that we don't do those longer form discussion formats.

We add a couple of people, maybe on the research side, maybe on the writing side, have a dedicated editor slash shooter over there. So we turn that into kind of a satellite studio. It's no longer going to be a lab. We have a new space lined up that is going to be approximately 10 times the size.

new space lined up that is going to be approximately 10 times the size and that should give you some idea of what my expectations are in terms of building up the lab so the way that i framed this for gary a couple of hours ago is that i never want to hear well linus we could test this if only we had amount of space X or facility Y. Because every time I hear that, I'm going to say, then why haven't you built it yet? Or like, is it on order or whatever? So Gary, are you ready?

I'm ready. I'm really ready. I'm sweating right now, but I'm ready. Man, it's been so long since you've been public facing. You're always so shy when I tried to get you in the videos and stuff. I know. Well, I kind of suck on video, so. I'm much better in person. No, man, you'll get used to it.

You'll get used to it. You'll get used to it. This is going to be so much fun. So we've actually got one of your new charges. Gary's been helping us out with the hiring process for some of our labs candidates as we've made our way, even though we didn't have an official, even employment agreement signed with them

because he took forever on that too. Gary's been helping us with hiring, making sure that we're going through people's credentials and making sure we're building out a super qualified team. We've got someone really exciting who's starting on, I forget if it's Monday or Tuesday. And then what's your first day, Gary? It's in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Freaking awesome. Now I got to know now, now we're past the stuff that Gary and I have talked about already. What are you going to do on your first day? My first day? Jeez.

Very good question. Have a little cry? No, I'll probably do donuts in the parking lot. Didn't even surprise me. So, okay, is it a secret, the other media vertical that you have participated in in the past? Because my understanding is you kind of have done some ghostwriting, but I don't know if you've actually disclosed for what and about what. And don't feel pressure to disclose it if you don't want to.

That's fine. No, no, we'll keep that secret. We're going to keep that secret. Okay, well, I'll say this much. Tech is not Gary's only passion. Okay? Right. I'll say this much. Gary tech is not Gary's only passion. Okay. Right. And that could actually be a really good thing for,

uh, Linus media group moving forward as well. So man, you're going to have a lot of stuff to do. Yeah. How big do you imagine your team? How big is your team going to be after 18 months? Like these are important questions.

Have you given this any thought? Could you repeat that? I'm sorry. How big is your team going to be after 18 months? Yeah, I thought that's what you asked. I'm envisioning probably 9 to 11. 9 to 11? 9 to 11.

My expectation is somewhere in the neighborhood of like 14 to 18 so we're sort of talking the same language but the thing is that man as we get deeper and deeper into all these all these different verticals i'm realizing that you know even something like okay here's what we were working on here's the reason that the show was late today uh i wanted to mod my old game gear to put a better screen on it and it turns out that this is a king rabbit hole there are so many different revisions of the Game Gear hardware over the years. There are so many different board layouts for the different revisions. There are so many

interesting little quirks that you might discover. So even though we found out that we had... What's this one? This is a single SOC, whatever. Dual ASIC. No, the original one. This one's single ASIC, isn't it? Oh, yeah, the VA2. Yeah, single ASIC, isn't it? Oh yeah, the VA2

Yeah, so this is a VA5 I thought Yeah, it doesn't matter So this is a VA5, it's got a single ASIC Which means that you can't Replace the screen unless Oh wait, there was a new screen kit that was released Six days ago or something like that

Oh, but even if you get a new screen It actually in the sports like 500 colors so what you really want is an a1 or a2 or something like that so this is a dual asic but then we found out based on our serial number we think that this may actually be one of the first like several hundred off the line of the particular factory that made this unit. Also, whoever sold it to us appears to have done at least some mods, unless some of the early ones shipped with glass screen covers. Cause you can see those are clearly not the same material at all.

Um, there's different audio boards you can put in different charging boards you can put in to convert it to lithium ion. And I'm sitting here going like, if we don't have, if we don't have a couple of dedicated electronics modding people and someone a person who's just dedicated to retro console content we're not going to be able to keep up because that's the vision for the labs at the end of the day is that the tide has been turning for quite some time now on YouTube. You're no longer able to just be a generalist, a jack of all trades, a master of none, because

there's going to be someone or someone's out there in every single vertical that is going to do it five times better than you because that's all that they do. They eat, sleep, and breathe nothing but that particular category day in, day out. So I think a perfect example of someone like that is Addy from EposVox, okay? Looks at pretty much nothing but streaming optimization, encoding, capture, all that kind of stuff, microphones, really focused on streaming. And so unless we have people who just are completely immersed in these categories or in these spaces,

I just think we're going to fade into irrelevance. And that's what the lab is for. So essentially the way that I see the lab is that it's going to be kind of like tripling to quadrupling our writing staff without making necessarily more content. Yeah. But also we'll probably do more content.

Yeah, Vincent from HGTV Test is another great example. Chats pointing out some other just outstanding examples of people who are super focused on a particular vertical. And to be clear, the idea is not to compete these people out of business, because the way that I see it, the rising water is going to lift all ships, however that saying goes. Because the more we educate people about technology,

the more appetite there's going to be for deeper content, deeper analysis, and of course, differing opinions. I mean, even back in the day when you were doing written, there was Anantech and Tom's Hardware and Hard OCP and PC per and tech report and all these respected publications. And you didn't read a review from just one. We just need to make sure that we are part of that conversation. So can you do it? Yes, I can. That would be a hilarious time to say no. time to say no just saying honestly on on second review yeah i think maybe not no i think yeah so um so i'm excited i mean one of the one of the great things that i like so much about bringing gary in is he doesn't

only have the technical expertise and really the hunger to learn more and get deeper into this stuff, but he has the people management expertise because the reality of it is that I need to be focused on making the content entertaining, on keeping Linus Media Group running like a well-oiled machine. So he wasn't cheap, Gary, you weren't cheap. Um, so he wasn't cheap, but the idea is that Gary's going to come in and basically, I don't have to think about it when I get numbers or when I get a report from labs, or iflex is sitting on set uh for short circuit working on an unboxing of some laptop whatever is on that page is bulletproof can we do it yeah our goal is not to be questioned simple as that well i'm excited yeah i am too in fact i need to uh i need to get to uh

the airport so i can find a place to live yeah so how's that vancouver housing market treating you oh just like it is in san jose it's a bit rough all right well hey you know what thank you very much for joining us on the show i'm i'm i'm super glad that we were able to bring you on sorry guys there's a really long delay on the call with gary so maybe maybe we'll have him come in person once he's here and we'll have a chat maybe after the first month or so we can talk him come in person once he's here and we'll have a chat maybe after the first month or so we can talk about what's going well what's going not as well what

positions we want to hire what we can do to make it um to make this whole thing go better i mean really the reality of it is it shouldn't come down to budget um as long as we're finding the right people we want to make sure that we are attracting the right talent so guys for those out there who know i know a lot of you no offense gary are going to have no idea who gary is because he has spent the last 10 years behind the scenes yeah um you know he's not a limelight seeker and you know what that's. But for the people in the know, I think that this sends a message that we are serious about this. And if you weren't sure if we were serious about this and you've held off on applying,

then it's time to get your resume over here. Because whether it's displays, whether it's GPUs, CPUs, whether it's consumer electronics, we have to do and we're going to need a lot of experts and if you feel like you can help us take things to the next level then we

really need your paperwork alright thanks Gary drive safe thank you take care see you later alright bye bye just as a note for troubleshooting in the future apparently there was no delay for the stream it was just for our monitoring oh got it interesting yeah

okay cool okay all right okay back to your regularly scheduled programming yeah are we supposed to do any ltt store stuff oh whoa no way okay yeah this is big news for ltt store oh uh yeah let's get my let's get my screen up here it's finally back for over a year we have not been able to get we have not been able to get heathered aqua blanks from american apparel in the volumes that we need across all sizing that we need for the constellations t-shirt remember the constellation shirt well guess what ladies and gentlemen it is finally freaking back and not only is it back but it is back in our own blanks so these are the new ltt store creator warehouse whatever you want to call them these

are our blanks these are the same ones that went out on the privateer shirt i don't actually know if they went out on the eggshell one i'm not sure there's still a little bit of overlap on black shirts in terms of uh what's american apparel and what's the new ones but constellations will absolutely be new and check this out there's a long sleeve that's actually so cool i like the long sleeves i've always liked long sleeve shirts but also constellations in long sleeve just kind of makes sense to me we are working on a constellations v2 but because constellations v1 has been in such demand and we've had people message us so many times hey hey, that shirt, I love that shirt,

why can't I buy that shirt? We are doing one more run of Constellations 1. They're going to take about two to three weeks to print. All of these are going to be print to order and your entire order will be shipped together. So if you order more items than just the shirt, it's all going to ship at once when the shirt is ready. We never offered Constellations in a long sleeve

and the long sleeve isations in a long sleeve. And the long sleeve is also our own long sleeve. This is going to be the first availability of our blank long sleeves. And guys, they're freaking awesome. So here's the old American Apparel version. So you can see how it looks actually printed. I doubt the logo on the back will be orange. We don't really do that anymore.

I suspect the logo will be some other color, maybe white or something like that. But don't quote me on that. Don't quote me on that. So Constellations is this design. If you guys want to get your hands on an LTT long sleeve, this is going to be the first possible availability of it. All right, let's get on with the show, shall we? What do you want to talk about next?

Team viewer called me again. That's what I want to talk about next. Do you want to hear my voicemail? Oh, you didn't pick up. Of course I'm not picking up. Let's go. Those freaking guys. Yeah. All right.

Hold on. To play your messages, press one to record them. All right. Y'all ready? Y'all ready for this? Sent by seven to. Oh,

hold on. Let's get that number out of here. Let's, we're not going to. Okay. Tyler from Pink Viewer Software. Check out to hear. I wanted to see if we could connect and speak briefly in regards to the older version of the license that your company is running with us.

Give me a call back here at my direct line. It's going to be 727. Okay. That's enough of your direct line. Literally. Literally. He did it again. line it's going to be 727 okay that's enough for your direct line literally literally did it again out of nowhere could you even hear that I bet you guys couldn't even hear that

hi I'm calling from team viewer and I'd like to talk to you about the older version of the software that your company is running if you could give me a call back my direct line I don't fucking direct line is. How many times do I have to tell you guys not to call me?

You've already said you took me off the list. Once again, here we are, TeamViewer, with you guys either lying about taking me off the list or you're lying about the existence of a list at all. And you would think, given that last time you guys called me and I complained about it, so many people shared my frustration and were so s*** that the video got a million freaking views. You would think after that experience, you guys would go, oh gee, um, maybe we shouldn't call Linus anymore um I'm a really smart

executive I'm a smart marketing executive and I think that this might be a good idea well listen I know the guy sounds like that because he works at team viewer but you should listen to him anyway because that's really smart You guys need to actually stop emailing me. Stop calling me. I spent, I forget how much it was. So if the number's not right, I don't care. But I spent thousands of dollars. It's like $5,000 on a perpetual license of TeamViewer 12.

And for those of you saying I should switch to some other software, I don't want to. I paid for this software. It actually works perfectly for what I need to do. All I need to happen is for TeamViewer to never call me again. Not even once. That was it. That's all I have to say.

You should just reverse chain them like what's the reverse chain task someone at work with wasting as much of their time as possible so just like re-bounce them over and over again like like generate a bunch of like fake out email addresses or something because you can you can generate email addresses in in uh gmail that you don't pay for oh i guess you can like add pluses and stuff um so it can still be our domain but you don't pay for it because they're just like forwarding addresses or whatever no i know how that works like aliases yeah yeah so so you just like bounce them from person to person to person to person to person to person to person to person and never actually have there be an end just have them

chase this this non-existent carrot oh man you want to waste my time we'll we'll waste yours let's go oh it's just it's just more it's just more work than it's worth for me i just want them to not no i know but i just i bought your product and I just want you to leave me alone. Yeah. Um, man, Anthony's discussion question is, this isn't really a question, but I literally am dealing with this with Telus right now. They keep messaging me every Wednesday

without fail to try to get me to install Norton. I said stop multiple times. I got the tenth one this week. I am angry. By the way i use arch i uh thank you anthony for that i'm actually stunned that that's happening i i read that before the show and was like what like why why is telus calling to install nord telus is one of those companies where now that they have pure fiber i love the service absolutely Absolutely love the product.

Their uptime is genuinely extremely strong as well. But... To give them credit. Over the years, my experiences dealing with TELUS from an administrative standpoint, going all the way back to high school. We are talking... How old am I now?

Yeah, we're talking 20 years. To be fair... I have a 20-year history with them. I bet you this is true for anyone who's ever worked with like a major isp shaw has been better by and large from my experience shaw is super anti super like monopolistic and anti-competition in their business practices sure they are oh shaw's okay aggressively shah's got some really stupid issues did you know you have to call shah to put your modem in or to put your router thing in bridge mode you know

you know that that router supports putting it in bridge mode just through accessing it over the local ip but shah specifically blocks that functionality so it doesn't work so you must call them or at least they did the last time i used them i haven't touched a shah internet product since telus pure fiber came to my neighborhood. I'm also going to put an allegedly in front of this because like I don't I haven't I don't know, but I've heard from a very wide range of people. So I believe it to be true that Shaw actively like legislatively blocks Telus from putting conduit in new buildings. Oh, I would believe that. Well, hold on a second.

Don't you have some firsthand experience with that? Why don't you just tell that story? I think that's not allegedly. That's a thing that happened to you. That happened in that building as far as the developer told me. Sure, then just say that. But I think you should tell the story.

So as far as my understanding goes from more than one developer telling me this, Shaw is seen as like a local isp and telus isn't for some weird reason and that gives shaw like first strike at new apartment buildings that go up in british columbia and shaw can just decide that they're going to only put in a certain amount of conduit into the building that only has enough space for what Shaw is going to put in. Gross, ugly, coaxed garbage. Which does not allow Telus to put anything in.

Effectively, the developer just goes like, okay, well, we're being paid by Shaw and Telus can't do anything with us at this stage anyway, so we're just going to build the building. And then Telus, to be able to get service into that building, would have to, like, chop up. Tear out, like, walls. They'd have to chop up the building. They'd have to Swiss cheese the building to fit all their new conduit in so they can actually service the building. So tons of apartments in BC,

like a huge amount of new apartments, don't have Telus access. And it's just like, why is this this even allowed that's the most monopolistic thing i've ever heard in the isp space why is that allowed i i don't understand i've never understood um yeah like someone in floatplane chat said it's bs it sounds like local monopolies it absolutely is you're you're buying into an apartment building is buying into an isp at this point which is nuts which was actually a deciding factor for luke when he was shopping for his place because shaw's fiber isn't fiber oh boy oh we got luke with the spicy thing now

it's not okay they go fiber to the node they advertise advertise it as fiber. It's so frustrating. They go fiber to the node. They go copper to your place. Telus goes fiber to your place. Yes. I prefer Telus right now because they're not just like... F-T-T-H, baby! Blatantly lying to everyone. Fiber to the home! Yeah, like, that's so much better.

Why are you... Oh, my goodness. I have two and a half gig now. No, we have fiber because we go fiber to the node. Yeah, I've been doing that forever! Yeah, fiber to the node. How else were have fiber because we go fiber to the node yeah you've been doing that forever yeah fiber to the node how else were you gonna get internet service to the node like what were you gonna do send send smoke shut up you get fiber up the internet's been a thing for decades yeah it's so frustrating how else were you gonna cover that distance it's honestly pathetic step your game up because. Because we used to be a Shaw house.

My parents' house had access to both. Yep. And my brother and I sat our parents down one time, and we were like, we got to switch to Shaw. Shaw's the way to go. And they did it, and we were stoked for a long time. And now they're just like... Tell us his ADSL s***.

It was terrible. The number of times... This was my ex-girlfriend in high school like my high school sweetheart girlfriend the number of times I had to bring tell us to her house because Shaw wasn't available there because I was we were out nowhere Maple Ridge okay and so they had no access to Shaw and I had to bring them out I swear to you like half a dozen times and every single time they diagnosed a completely separate issue their ADSL service went down all the time so frustrating and man their customer service was so bad back then yeah anyway I just I so like I used to be on the

Shaw side and then fiber started becoming a thing andaw just stayed in the past yeah they're like well what don't you like coax don't you like coax bro in this in this age of like everyone on the planet trying to be a streamer don't isn't it fine that we have this non-symmetrical you you buy like 900 down and no matter what we advertise you you get like 10 up or 20 up and then like shaw shaw does their their speeds this is another allegedly um but shaw does their speeds as far as my understanding goes as like sections yeah oh they do because it's not fiber to the house yeah so it's all shared so it's all shared so in peak times you're like 10 up goes down to like five it's like oh i just can't do anything now to be clear goodness any isp is over provisioning

that is actually normal and that's i don't mind that to a certain degree no but at at peak times i can speed test my telus stuff and it's pretty much what i'm paying for yeah mine when they first put it in i first paid for gigabit and it was like faster. A lot of the time. I couldn't check the gig. No, it was when I went to 500 at first and it was faster than 500. And then I had no way of knowing if I was faster than gigabit until I upgraded to greater than gigabit gear later. And it was actually a little higher than gigabit. I have found if you don't test during like absolute peak, Telus connections are usually

faster than advertised. And like, yes, I'm not a Telus shell. There are downsides. But right now, it's not a competition. Man, Telus has managed to screw up almost every single interaction I've ever had with them. Even when we had our ITEL fiber network put in here when we first upgraded to, I guess it was Gigabit.

So ITEL, just for some context, as far as my understanding goes, is a small company that runs off of Telus' backbone, right? Yeah, yeah. So they do their own stuff. Like, they do actual engineering and stuff. They're not just, like, some cheapo reseller. And they, like, put down dark fiber and stuff too, right?

But they are not... They're cool. Like, a national tier ISP either. They're a relatively small shop, although they've grown a lot in the time we've known them. So when we first engaged with them, they're basically just leasing capacity from TELUS.

Their CTO and I spent literally, it was either an hour or two hours on the phone trying to diagnose why our upload speed was like a tenth of what it was supposed to be. It turns out that some Butterfingers numbnuts at TELUS just missed a zero. supposed to be and it turns out that some some butterfingers numb nuts at telus just entered

missed a zero forever to fix it oh my goodness like okay like literally everything i've ever done with telus has kind of been a cluster but the product these days is very good so that's that i had you got to give credit where credit is due all right you got to give credit where credit is due yeah people in chat are saying some isps boost their speeds when you go to speedtest.net sure but there's other ways to test speed yeah like i i've got a two and a half gigabit connection at home and i was downloading games off steam at 280 megabytes a second yeah like like i i have surpassed my rated speeds on steam as well like it's regularly yeah and and origin and like other services like it's it's it's fast the the one thing you get with telus right now is it's fast it's fast latency you get speed you get latency you take good

connections are really good just dealing with them isn't exactly the greatest thing ever yeah that's one way of putting it yeah speaking of dealing with them not being the greatest thing ever why don't we talk about apple's launch of their self-service repair program american apple customers can now take advantage of apple's self-service repair program to fix their mobile devices by going to this completely generic looking website that's right my friends you too can go to selfservicerepair.com this is actually apple i don't right apparently it's run by a third party company it's run by a third party yeah okay but yes these are genuine apple parts and genuine apple tools but this isn't yeah this

isn't like it literally is not apple though so the site has all the parts tools and manuals available to perform repairs on iphones going back to the 12 um jonathan horse editorializes not handy as 11 and older are the models that will be needing repair right now that's a very fair criticism yep Yep. And so far, one can repair... Man, are we converting Horst to, like, not an Apple just, like, lover? I feel like Horst's takes on apples have gotten more and more cynical the longer he's been here. Oh, boy. Love you, Jonathan.

You do a great job over on MacAddress. Honestly, I try to have nothing to do with the editorial direction over there. I think just being around here, I'll just pop by his desk and be f***ing stupid. He'll be like, oh, why do you say it? I'm like, well, I don't know, this, this, and this. Like, oh, okay, yeah, I can try

and integrate that. No, no, no, no, no. Just do your thing. Do your thing. Anyway, so far, one can repair the battery bottom speaker rear camera display taptic engine and sim tray uh okay it's thorough but not easy looking users are to play apple are to play apple repair genius for a day oh okay um example, repairing anything requires using the heated display removal fixture and the display press. Oh, I see. So they give you guides and tools and everything, but only to do it the like official way, not necessarily the cheap and or efficient way.

People in chat are saying that they charge you the same price that you would pay at the Genius Bar. People in chat are saying that they charge you the same price that you would pay at the Genius Bar. Well, that's the problem is these tools are available for purchase for $256 and $216 respectively. So this is the heated display removal fixture and the display press. But repairers can rent the entire kit for a week for $49. The issue is that the economics are sort of difficult to justify. So on an iPhone 12 display, a screw kit costs $268 while going to the Apple store costs $279. So you literally save $10 to do it yourself. However, if you send back your parts,

you do get a discount of $33.60 for a display. So for $40 of savings, you get to do it yourself when honestly for oem grade parts like you you you could definitely do this for a lot cheaper than that um okay our discussion questions are what are you most happy to see with this program? I'm most happy that the program exists at all. Because now, now the first, the first, you know, okay, let's say we're trying to move a really big rock.

You know? I'm not. That's my heart's sake. You're not. Well, can I? Nope. Can I? Because I feel like this is going to be their look we did it move and they will not improve

okay that's my concern i think the bigger picture no offense i think the bigger picture is we know that right to repair has a long way to go and And if nothing else, this is that first little bit of movement of the rock. Is it good enough? No. No. I believe it will improve over time just by merit of them not removing access to iPhone 12 stuff when the 14 and 15, 16, 17 launch. I feel like, I hope see the back catalog of parts will

expand just by nature of new things coming out and not removing access to that stuff that would be really awful i think throwing it under one of the worst websites i've seen in like a decade um and under a third party really doesn't help a lot of adoption like if you land if you land on spots website here um and the show it to you sure yeah the little logo in the corner um and if you if you see that the logo is literally just plain text like if i land on this website i'm leaving immediately because i'm concerned about the security of my computer uh like i'm not i'm not i'm not buying something through this thinking that it's actually it's clear that apple could have made this official, but decided not to.

Yes. Now, that's not to say that working through a third party is necessarily bad. We praised Valve for working through third parties like iFixit on the Steam Deck, like, right to repair initiative. So, making parts available to, to end users. But the reason we did that is, well, they partnered with someone reputable. They partnered with more than one partner.

And I mean, is that okay? Do we need to give reasons other than that? No, I mean like the, and I'm not trying to dog on, on small companies by any means. It's just,

this website literally looks like a scam. Like Apple would have made it look more apple and an apple customer i think is going to want it to look a little more apple but can i come back to my point back to my point where there's no about if apple is doing this okay maybe maybe it becomes the industry norm to do at least this. Or maybe, maybe, now that it's a conversation, now that an Apple customer even becomes aware of the concept of being able to get replacement parts for your hardware and perform repairs yourself or do them for your friends. Like if I was a high school student or something like that,

then how cool would it be if I could repair all of my friends' iPhones? I mean, I'm not going to buy these. I guess I would just... Getting the word out is good. So maybe we see one-upmanship start to happen in the space. That's what I want. I'm worried that in this case, due to the way that they did it, and this is going to be a weird thing to argue, but in this case, due to the way that they did it, getting the word out might actually be bad. I know that sounds nuts, but my argument for that is the pricing is so bad the pricing is so egregiously bad the website that it lands you on is so sketchy looking there's no about us you can't figure out who these people even are i'm on your screen now there's no you look at the bottom contact us is just like the most basic it's not even loading

now there we go contact us it's just like open a chat and here's a random phone number there's no about us there's nothing like who are these people i don't want to like send them a huge amount of money that's one of the first things that i do when i go to a website is about us and find out where they're located and then cross-reference that with like some kind of geographical resource like google maps make sure they're actually who are you yeah what's your building look like yeah um and then so pricing is super bad and it looks super sketchy so to me getting the word out this way feels like they're actually turning people off and making them pushing them into a defeatist mentality where they're like i have to get it repaired by apple there is no other solution because this is the solution that is being exposed to me in the easiest way possible and it's trash that's my argument i can't argue that but i just would

like to i would like to feel better about this if i live in my delusional little magic minus world i hope it works out i hope you're right i hope people see this and go like oh maybe there's alternatives and then they work with whatever local shop or they just research things themselves and try to do it themselves if they're a little technically apt or whatever. Like that would be fantastic. I hope it goes that direction.

I just feel like, honestly, it feels kind of weird to say like a website made me lose hope like almost immediately, but it really did. Like it's just so sketchy looking. Okay. What's the URL for the dashboard for the merch messages again? I just realized I don't have it up.

I don't exactly want to say it. Can I just see it? Yeah. Okay. I think. Really? It's not going gonna auto fill for me oh my no that's not it oh oh my gosh like this this thing that okay you know what didn't complete

um i'll check my history i'll see if i can bring it up I can send it to the email that's on that computer Okay yeah that would help Anyway Yeah fine Oh the The Aura Master and all In floatplane chat says I've been thinking about the availability of parts Wouldn't it be worse for the environment to continue

Producing iPhone 12 parts 6 or 7 years After it released wouldn't having a ton of batteries And other parts lying around for years be bad too? So no, they would keep them in production. There's so many iPhone 12s out there. And there will be so many iPhone 12s out there, even six, seven years from now, because to Apple's credit, they do do an excellent job of providing software updates for their devices that yeah, you would be able to justify doing small production runs. And no, they wouldn't be lying around for years at a time. And you might say, okay, well, you know, all these parts are effectively, you know, manufactured e-waste because you're putting them into old devices that are not going to last.

But that's the thing. As long as those parts are available, you can actually keep running those devices on life support. That's good. Because when you make a new device well you're making the whole device not just yeah those parts of it so also also it's not like they aren't going to like monitor their demand and produce for that like they don't just have like an entire factory pumping out iphone 8 screens for the end until the end of time as fast as they possibly can apparently the repair manuals are at least on the apple website yeah when you click the manuals

button it just completely redirects you to apple i know which is also not how that's supposed to work i know i know i did that as well i didn't even want to bring it up because it was like sketchy but not as sketchy as the other things so like i i don't know i'm not sold man and like again i don't want to rag on a small company but they got to fix these things you got to look legitimate when you're on the internet um raven derrett says you can run the devices but as people we seem to toss away working stuff for new shiny things all the time regardless right but we want those devices to go to someone right that's the point as long as it still works it's like buying a new car does not turn your old car into an environmental disaster immediately someone will drive that car

and they will drive they will go buy that car instead of a brand new one. Also, with enhanced repairability, you might shift the culture to being more interested in keeping devices going. There's a significant amount of people that are completely fine with their phones. Yes. But the battery is not okay. So they buy a new phone. I'm honestly getting a little bit tired of my folding phone. I picked up my Note 9 the other night because my battery was low low on this and i just needed something mention it and i was like oh it still feels so

good yeah i might put a new battery in it and just like rock the note 9 for another couple of years i don't know man nice uh but yeah it's it's it's like uh i don't know wicked peruvian is really mad at you criticizing the website by the way says hey my uncle barry made that website for like two hours and it was super hard for him yeah i just like like design actually matters for a lot of reasons other than just like oh pretty it it it makes a website feel more legitimate it makes a company feel more legitimate it you need to stay up to date so that people don't think that your website has been abandoned um you need to have an about us page so people can again add legitimacy to you if i haven't heard of your company and i'm

going to spend a bunch of money with you i something that i very often do you mentioned how one of the first things you do when you go to a website is go to the about us yeah one of the first things i do is how does this company make money? Yeah. Because a lot of times I want to make sure that whatever thing I'm using has a reasonable way of making money. It makes sense. If it doesn't, then I'm going to be like, how are they profiting off of me? And am I actually okay with it?

If it's like, oh, they're clearly profiting off of me because I'm buying some service or I'm buying something, that adds legitimacy to me. But then I want to see who the team is, etc. I actually care about those things. And I know the greater world does as well. So please update the website. We need to do a couple of merch messages. For those of you who haven't noticed already,

or you're new to the show, merch messages are down there. If you buy something on lttstore.com during the show while we are live you can enter a merch message uh some of them will just end up showing on the show so if you want to do shout outs for your friends or family that's an awesome place to put it uh some of them will be curated by our producer bell who is going to actually read us a couple of those for us to address them. Do you want to start at the top? Because I've already got an answer in my mind for that one. Brendan asks, with Elon buying Twitter, how much money would someone have to offer you to sell LTT?

I think if they offered $44 billion. $44 billion would be pretty hard to say no to. i'd have to wonder what the terms are like am i some kind of like sex slave for the rest of my life as part of the as part of the deal i mean you never know with the elites right it's true yeah fair enough the kinds of rumors that swirl around the billionaire class are just like hilarious like did you ever hear the one about how this is the amount sorry you're in the middle of saying something but what was the guy's name who had the island he's super sketchy dude oh uh what's his face uh the guy jeffrey epstein yeah yeah the amount of them that had photos with that dude or like hung out with him a lot it's like there's a lot of rumors. Might be true. Did you ever hear the one about the co-founders of one of the Fang companies?

I just don't feel like naming them because it could be not accurate. But yeah, allegedly. One of the co-founders of one of the Fangs apparently had a soundproof room for conducting meetings. Completely soundproof. Oh, yeah. But like, apparently it was like in their home. Oh. And I'm sitting here going what do you

need that for i i don't know if i mentioned this on when but there's there's a conf i struggle to say confirmed allegedly there's a there's a couple people that were founders of one kind of fangy company yeah and a single person who was a founder of another company that isn't technically included in fang but it would be that had an apartment that was completely sound blocked off that they would go to on a private elevator up to that apartment it's completely soundproofed there's a chef that has a different entry that goes to a kitchen they leave food in like a certain area that is completely blocked off they they have no access from the kitchen into the rest of the apartment and then to get the food the chef has to leave and then they go in and get

their food and they have meetings in there or at least used to crazy nuts blood sail admiral over in float plane chat can i just shout you out for this being hilarious uh hearsay and i'm assuming this is a johnny depp heard trial reference here objection hearsay did you see the one where amber heard's lawyer literally and then objects to look man i don't normally i don't normally wade into like celebrity drama because it's not really my cup of tea because it's just kind of a bottomless pit. Who cares? Yeah.

But I got to say, based on how things are going so far, I'm pretty team Johnny on this one. I just. She is not looking good. I have not really followed it that closely, but I've been finding it very funny. Like I saw that clip. My girlfriend sent me a few other clips that have just been very entertaining yes zetherion he objected to his own question the judge was extra confused he you you watch him like stumble afterwards um but it's yeah it's uh it's pretty funny oh man he just he objected to

so many things i don't know i haven't been giving up too i shouldn't say anything but um he objected to so many things. I don't know. I haven't been giving up, so I shouldn't say anything. But yeah, it's been pretty interesting. Apparently, he objected to the testimony of the person that was testifying. No, he was prepping to object to the answer Depp was giving, not the question he was asking. Okay, either way, it was hilarious. It wasn't even Depp talking. Hilarious. Yeah, I don't care. I don't care about the details.

Either way, it was hilarious. And I loved it. It was amazing. Talk to your humor. Yeah. Oh, okay okay how much money would someone have to offer you to sell ltt well i can tell you for a fact that even if i got an offer that was that was millions of dollars um right now i am not at a stage in my career. And I think I speak for myself. I speak for my wife, who, as most of you, I think, probably know.

You guys are WAN show regulars. My wife, who is my business partner. So we are pretty much 50-50 owners. It's a little complicated. Have I ever told the story about how I went full ego trip? And I was like, can I have 51%? Back when we were setting up the company? That's incredibly lame. I legitimately, okay, so hold on a second.

My justification for it is actually not completely ridiculous. Would you like to hear my justification or would you like to sit there judging me? I'm going to do both. You're going to do both. Okay. My justification for it is that I liked being like the majority shareholder founder whatever but at the end of the day because we're married with no prenuptial agreement whatsoever if we were to split up my 51 percent goes half to me and half to her and her 49 percent goes half to me and half to f***ing anyway it actually doesn't matter so i was like look this doesn't matter i just want to be like lines media group i i i i had the controlling you know interest or whatever and it was like it was totally stupid and i totally get it but it also totally doesn't matter and she and i both

knew it at the time so that's my justification for it. It actually doesn't make a difference. Okay. Are you still judging? Yeah. I mean, it's still stupid. Is it less lame? Linus and Sherry's has always been an interesting thing. That's all I'll say.

And I'm not surprised is another thing that I will say. I like, look, I like controlling the direction of the company. Entirely in every possible way. Have I done a bad job? Yes. No, no, it's been the direction of the company. Entirely, in every possible way. Have I done a bad job? Yes. No, no, it's been good. Oh my God. What a dick.

What a dick. As I sit here and drink from my LTT store water bottle, wearing my LTT store underwear and LTT store shirt. Yeah, it's been horrible. Yeah, I've clearly done a very bad job so so anyway i i was just like and i asked if she had said no it would have been 50 50 and wait she said yes yeah she was like fine whatever i mean well she let me call it linus media group too yeah i was open to other ideas true just i kind of want to change it you know what and in

fairness to me so in fairness to me i recently offered to do another nine years the other way around i was like tell you what how about we do the paperwork you know if i want us to i want i want you to feel like we were having a conversation where she felt like I was overriding something. And I was like, look, no, I don't want you to feel like that. Yes, I have my convictions and I have my opinions and there's a way that I feel we should do it. But I don't, it's not that I, it's not that I'm not listening or it's not that we can't do it your way. I tend to be a very passionate arguer. That's all.

True. Fair enough. You've also traditionally, and you've gotten a lot better specifically with Yvonne lately, and it seems like she's appreciating it, which is cool. But you've also had maybe some tendencies to not exactly share the credit. Yes, that's fair. Or accolades for things in the past. I tend to speak in the singular.

Yvonne has, in fairness again to me yvonne has oh boy she's gonna watch this yvonne has made her own bed to an extent when it comes to how public facing she is there have doesn't that does not countless opportunities that does not count countless opportunities just like with those you're wrong so what i'm wrong with these yes when you said like like that's not a fair question to ask or whatever in the pre-show oh um i ended up being right so so she she decided to take that stance and then things that she did were claimed as actions from you well what whoa whoa hold on what did i take i'm not gonna be able to give good examples of this i'm talking about over the last 10 years.

And this is something that she has approached you about as well. Oh, well, here's an accusation, but I'm afraid... Objection! Okay. Hearsay. Okay, that would be fair and it would stand up in court. You get that. But you know this is a thing.

Objection, hearsay. And again, I did give you the... From a legal standpoint, I'm winning this argument. You are. and again i'm a legal standpoint i'm winning this argument you are um and i did say however that it has gotten better recently well the thing especially in the in the two like the two more recent videos that she has shown up in yep um there's been a lot more more like she has she has expressed more desire to fair enough to play a more public role yeah and and honestly like i think part of it is that she just didn't have the energy to play a public

role for a long time fair enough like she was she you got to understand the thing is that yvonne's biggest contribution to linus media group was actually made working at a different company than linus media group because without Yvonne's seed capital, financial support arm, Linus Media Group does not exist. It never makes it to this stage. And then without her ongoing financial guidance, it never, it never hits that hockey stick moment where it takes off. And all of that is stuff that takes place inherently kind of behind the scenes, especially when you're so busy working on that stuff that you don't have time to go say, I don't know, start a cupcake decorating channel as an offshoot that we promote to try to build

our female audience or all the legitimate business cases that we could make for Yvonne taking a more front and center role. It's also not something that she's always been the most comfortable with. I mean, sometimes, and you know, hasn't always loved being on camera. Sorry. Hasn't always loved being on camera. No. And, and sometimes, you know, if I had to, if I had to pick my wife's biggest flaw, it's insecurity. Literally her biggest flaw is not realizing how awesome she is which i think is not going to land me on the couch but that's not why i chose it that's actually true and it's something that i've been chasing her about pretty much since the day we met because

especially when we met boy was i ever punching up like she's meddled man she's like and you know this isn't a dig it's very true I'm just gonna say guys out there find an insecure chick because she's gonna be so much better than you would have done otherwise not a great take yikes

I'm obviously kidding but in all seriousness I was in my opinion clearly punching up and over the years it's been something But in all seriousness, I was, in my opinion, clearly punching up. And over the years, it's been something that she struggled with that she hasn't realized. One of my favorite songs, one of the songs that reminds me of her most is One Direction's You Don't Know You're Beautiful. Because she just has no idea. I'll be like, yeah, you did great.

And she'll be like, oh, I could have fixed this hundred things. I'm like, yeah, you could be like yeah you did great and she'll be like oh oh i could have fixed this hundred things i'm like yeah you could have but you did great i know especially i i heard about this especially more early on it might still be a thing i don't know uh but i know she was very self-conscious about uh her work here as well oh i know oh man actually you're you're kicking bleep button but i don't know where it is but oh you can say ass i think it's fine i don't know whatever sounds good uh but like it it's just but but it was i feel like it was very hard for her to see that. Yep. And I think that's like, I don't know what necessarily changed, but something changed there where she wanted more recognition.

And I feel like maybe it was her seeing that. Maybe. And then being like, now I want the accolades, which is cool because she deserves them. I mean, to be clear, guys, this is something that I have talked to Yvonne about extensively over the years. This is not something that's going to be some kind of a surprise for her.

We have an extremely open. I don't want to say an extremely open relationship. All of us. We were so close. I was watching that train go at that wall. It didn't quite hit the wall. Got a little off the rails we have a policy of extremely open communication in our relationship because we wouldn't have made it this far without it

and there are times when honestly she will just tell me yeah this is something that i could take more a more of a front-facing role on, but honestly, I just don't feel like talking to people right now. Why don't you announce it? Or why don't you say it? I like the way you say it. And I will say in the credit to both of you as well, as someone who's literally lived with you for an extended period of time, conflict resolution seems quite strong. Oh, well, thank you. Yeah. Luke has probably overheard far more than really I realized at the time and I'm comfortable with. Our walls are not as big as I think we assumed.

Yeah, not so much. That's okay, though. Yeah, but, you know, we really do live by principles like never go to bed angry. Yeah. we really do live by principles like never go to bed angry even if it means we're up till 4 in the morning you just can't

anyway the point is not to get into relationship tips or whatever the point is that yes I have not given enough credit to her over the years it has always been my instinct

oh boy here we go more hot takes to her over the years. It has always been my instinct. I mean, okay. Oh boy, here we go. More hot takes. I do find it takes a certain type to get into a social media role. You have to be an attention seeker to a degree. There are exceptions, but you have to at least enjoy

whatever type of spotlight it is that you end up taking for yourself whether it's a more behind the scenes kind of spotlight like a cgp great whether you like having people whether you like just just sharing and educating you're still you're still in a spotlight even if it's like a necessary evil kind of spotlight yeah you might hate it i mean we've we've seen this by people who who like uh become internet famous by accident basically, but you have to at least be able to tolerate it. You have to have a certain amount of charisma, right? And that's not something that comes naturally to everyone.

I forget why I started this sentence. So it doesn't really matter. We're talking about how much money it would take to sell it. Oh, right. Yeah, how much money it would take. I have another thing if you're still thinking about it. No, I'm ready. Okay. okay okay but hit me hit me so i often have to reference what floatplane does by saying by trying to reference all of the companies because at this point we do a certain

amount of thing for all of the companies and especially with the hiring and expansion that we're doing we're going to be doing even more of that which is great but saying all of the companies or like the greater companies or the companies under the numbered umbrella or whatever is getting really annoying. Yeah, we do kind of need a name for our umbrella organization. And it should be something different. Honestly, what I would like to do over the next three to five years is remove the Linus branding from everything that we do. I would like Linus tech tips to become LTT. And I slip up sometimes,

but I'm, I'm trying to get in the habit of only referring to it as LTT. Like sometimes in a video, it'll be like, are we going to do this halfway? No, this is Linus tech tips, baby.

You know? And so I want to be like, no, this is LTT. Like I want to, I want to shift that branding. I mean, we've already been doing it on the merch for years now. And so I want to be like, no, this is LTT. I want to shift that branding. I mean, we've already been doing it on the merch for years now.

We almost never print Linus on anything because it's just time to move away from it. There's so many more people here. It's group. It's not Linus anymore, right? The Linus Media Group thing. Oh, call it Group Group. I'm not calling it Group Group. It sounds like fish, like grouper group or something. I don't know. Anyway, the point is, no, we're not calling it group group sounds like fish like grouper group

anyway the point is um no we're not calling it umbrella corp that's very funny though um so i want to move linus tech tips away i want linus media group to become a brand that we sort of phase out and then i want to create a a brand for that umbrella organization that contains LTT Productions or whatever. That contains Creator Warehouse, that contains Floatplane. And I would like to do all the branding around that. Because it's becoming clear to me as we go that, and this is coming back around to the question. It's becoming clear to me as we go that we are eventually going to have to raise capital in some way. We cannot, Yvonne and I cannot keep reinvesting personally and doubling down every single time that we need to grow, whether it's labs, whether it's backpacks

and screwdrivers, whatever it is, whatever new facility. At some point, the not stupid, new facility at some point that the not stupid excuse me the not stupid thing to do is take some kind of outside capital in some way and i think that if we were to raise some kind of funds we would want to do it as that umbrella organization rather than as one of the individual silos within it so yeah having having some form of name and being able to point at that name is like something that's legitimate would be kind of cool yeah um yeah it's a very enterprise is limited not bad not bad our array says please don't go public so there's lots of different ways to raise funds um going public is obviously one of them but it's far from the only way to do it i don't know i don't know i

don't know what it i don't know what it looks like um yeah new wonik incorporated nice uh all right so it was with elon buying, how much money would someone have to offer you to sell to LTT? So coming back to the question, I have spoken with the executive team here. I have spoken with Yvonne. We are not at a place where we are ready to sell. And so the offer kind of doesn't matter. And the reason for that is that whatever the offer is, is going to be based on business fundamentals, like your, what is it? Earnings before interest, tax, and whatever, your EBITDA. Okay, so it could be based on that. It could be based on some kind of multiple of revenue, but there are formulas for valuing a

business. And we are in a position right now where we believe we have such a period of explosive growth ahead of us with Creator Warehouse, with new channels, with the lab, that we would be stupid to take any kind of offer today rather than what would come a year or two or three years from now. And that's really exciting. So I just don't want, and I don't think that we would be able to guide this organization toward the success that we think we're headed towards if we didn't have full control. Am I a control freak? Yes yes it was a rhetorical question

asshole but yes yes i am i was gonna answer it i was gonna get the same answer dude okay the most hilarious thing to me was back in the house when you were pushing me to show up on camera really hard, but couldn't actually let me have a video just by myself either. That dichotomy was one of the weirdest things to have to like work out in my brain ever. He would run downstairs because he'd realized we were filming something, but he would realize it too late or he'd be on a call or something. And you'd literally hear him sprinting from his desk downstairs to get in the shot and would like dive into the shot as i'm doing the outro to make sure that he was in it

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clicking on the microphone at the top of the page and typing in when ship station make ship happen can i show you my thing yet you want to see my thing yeah but before we do that so i want to show you my thing though my thing's down here i want to show it to you i'm down dude all right uh full plane chat came up with an amazing i didn't want to say it during the thing just in case you didn't like it oh for sure full plane chat came up with an amazing uh sales pitch for squarespace which is beautiful do you want to make your way oh i missed that one do you want to make your website not look like apple's repair site honestly you could build a better looking site in like a day on squarespace not like 10 minutes probably yeah well okay all the pictures were stock oh

you're not even wrong the buttons are just like links to the website and it's just basic text you could literally okay maybe 10 minutes is too low at at max honestly i think you could recreate a better website than that in like under two hours and this is not like we're done the squarespace spot this is not a sponsored bit i know i just like actually just like do use it and it actually is really easy to use, and that site is horrible. There's nothing unique or interesting really there. You're just filling out, especially if you could just copy paste the text over, then you're just done almost immediately. Yeah, I know. The longest part would be picking a theme.

Okay, can I show you this thing down here? Yeah, what's going on? Okay, I'm sure you recognize i'm sure you recognize this yeah the frogger machine enough it's a reference to the pre-show sarah and i ended up in an argument over whether frogger was available on game gear and whether her assuming that it was was her trolling me which it turned out it wasn't it turned out that the system does not have frogger but it turns out that all the engineering was actually done it was just never released you can get it as a rom

so her assuming that was not her trolling me that's where we ended up i was kind of right but i was also mostly wrong the pre-shows are pretty cool if you want to check them out subscribe to float yeah you should definitely be subscribed the vod including the pre-show is is on float exclusively on float plane yeah um also like lots of behind the scenes like if you're not on float yeah it's actually been popping off lately oh yeah arty is doing a lot of really good content amazing job of the behind the scenes like meet the team uh cutting room floor stuff there's some great exclusives we actually took a day off this week so as a surprise to everyone but me yvonne and chase i think. I think, oh no, the executives knew.

Yeah, you knew. Okay, so the C-suite, the executive managers, and then Chase, who's our event coordinator, knew. But everyone else showed up for work on Tuesday morning thinking they were showing up for work. But at 9.45, a school bus drove into the parking lot. We all got on it, went bowling, went to Boston Pizza for lunch, and then we went to see Uncharted in our own private theater

and then came back to the office and everyone went home. Yeah. It was actually amazing. We've never done anything like it before. It was genuinely really fun. Except I couldn't really, my shoulders all screwed up. So I couldn't really like, I was bowling left-handed. But it was really

fun regardless yeah honestly the point of bowling is not it is to hang out yeah yeah and it was it was cool to be the the floatplane team like you know doesn't get out much so it was cool to be able to like have the the floatplane people mingle with other people that work here and all okay so it was a really good day yeah it was it was pretty fun. Anyway, the point is... Wait, what were we talking about? Dang it. Right. Artie, even though I told him not to work, I explicitly... Did I explicitly tell everyone no work? You did. I did.

He just, I don't know, maybe actually enjoys his job, I guess, but decided to vlog it. And so there's an exclusive vlog on Floatplane with some of our bowling antics and stuff like that. Yeah, it's cool. It was really fun.

It was really fun. Anyway, the point is, what is this? It's a Game Gear. Right. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Finally answering the question.

Okay. Is there anything about this particular... Hold on. Let me just get it kind of dialed in for you a little bit here. Is this the glass front? Oh, can you just chill for a second? Okay. God. Jeez.

You gotta ruin all the surprises. You can never have a surprise with this guy. Okay. So is there anything about this that kind of stands out to you playing it? So I never had, I've literally never used, this is the first time I've ever held a game gear in my life. Really? Yeah.

This was like my childhood console. I had, I had a SNES and I had a game gear and then i moved to my mom's house and then i had neither of them and i had no consoles ever again i had a game boy original and then i had a game boy advanced that was it okay so you're uh well we had i think back in the 90s um you know it doesn't matter what happened in the 90s. The screen seems pretty original. The screen is definitely pretty original. So this is the reason that the show was late. I wish I'd taken a picture of what it entailed to turn it into this.

Oh, so this is new. Okay. This is completely original. A little rough. This is an A5 Game Gear. But like it... Okay. I mean, it's a Game Gear gear so well i can already immediately tell when

it was here i could tell it's a brand new ips display man we are gonna have to get heavy into like retro console modding and stuff honestly man when i was when i was working on this with oh that's so much better is that incredible that's actually like so much because the screen was honestly the biggest problem yep the viewing angles were terrible but even just outside of that it wasn't very bright beyond terrible like look at this it just goes completely yellow from the top

and completely white from the bottom there's like this narrow like maybe 10 degrees where you can actually make out an image on the screen you know what I mean and like legitimately almost just as bad as it's really dim hold up that one i got it it is completely a night and day difference there's nothing i can do to make it look anything like that is that cool or what that's really cool while we were working on this video i'm sitting here going like oh oh man, there are so many businesses

that our umbrella organization could get into with just a little bit of startup capital, some space and like a handful of employees that we could just like turn on immediately. You know, you start, you create some jobs for people with like micro soldering skills. You start creating internal documentation. We get into like console modding. I skills, you start creating internal documentation,

we get into like console modding. I mean, there's been so many times, right, that we've talked about Linus, you guys should really do just do like a system builder. Like, why don't you guys just build computers if you're like know how computers are supposed to? Or you can even just go like the more iFixity route and just sell like kits. Well, the problem a lot of the time with the kits is that all the engineering work has been done. Like the guys that make this replacement screen, the name is on the tip of my tongue. Sorry, it escapes me right now, but there's a full video coming about this. Don't miss it.

They do all the engineering work, but the problem is that they're doing extremely small production runs because these in many cases are really, really small organizations. So if you have someone that steps in and goes, yeah, look, I'll pay for you to do 5,000 or 10,000 units. Like, let's actually make some of these things. Instead of people waiting, in some cases, three months for them to produce and then ship them from overseas, all of a sudden you've got easy availability of this stuff in North America, easy access to it. So, yeah, I think people would actually pay a markup for us to sustain our operation and we could totally get into this stuff i know like i don't need more i don't know if i need more business divisions to run right man it's wild looking at them from here because the lower

one is pure white the screen is purely white and then i can see the uh the upper one perfectly yeah like um i know with uh 3ds's i think it was people wanted to stream animal crossing back before there was animal crossing on on switch yeah okay and ben ben says ducky loot snip yep that's the one ben ben makes the screen okay animal crossing streaming for people that wanted to do that officially so on an actual 3ds whatever they they were like shipping their 3ds's off to like some who knows where person and they've like might get it back in like half a year who knows the queue's like super long they might just break your 3ds and just send you one broken back like it was just yeah i don't know

adding adding some uh some more business savvy that space would be pretty cool yeah and the technical work is there it just needs a little bit of capital. That too. And it needs a little bit of like trustworthiness, like that consolidation. The technical expertise is like, they've been doing obviously fantastic work for a long time. Yeah.

Yeah. And you know what the crazy thing is? A lot of this retro console hardware is either open source or like semi-open. The only reason that no one can get it is because no one is willing to put the capital into actually doing reasonable size production runs of these darn things so you know i'm just sitting here going like yeah why why why why don't we just why don't we just hire you know four or five people we just talk about it once in a while on the show

you end up hiring shank build a brand around it i know right i'm like not even kidding i know right that's crazy that's cool yeah float planes like i love where this is going yeah but you guys love like you love everything yeah i can't take you seriously at a certain point have you seen have you seen the the mod that uh which one that shank did to the to the hot wheels pc or whatever i have it's amazing it's so amazing i love it uh oh what just happened i thought i just curated one and it disappeared uh oh yeah no no never mind it's here uh we should do a couple more curated merch messages bell hit me hello welcome to the editorialized questions uh this one's from derek as an avid beat saber player linus what are your

preferred vr controllers maybe specifically with beat saber uh i have only used the original vive controllers and oh actually that's that's a lie no i've used the oculus controllers um the oculus controllers you are objectively wrong about them being better because if you were any good at the game, you would have the problem with the battery covers coming off if you're like actually at speed, like playing. As for the Knuckles controllers,

I wish they were lighter, but I guess they're my preferred because the only ones that I've used with like a proper VR headset plugged into a computer are the original Vive controllers and the Knuckles controllers. And for everyone who is not catching it, I'm taking the piss right now. I'm just teasing.

The Oculus Quest is a fantastic value. The controllers are fine, but I personally have difficulty going at full speed, keeping the battery covers on. I just, I just can't do it um I know that there's on which is not great something to note about the original Vive controllers is I never tried any alternate grips so I'm coming at you from like complete ignorance because I wasn't very good yet so I was just using like the drumstick grip but there's like ones where you put your fingers through the holes or something and it oh it redistributes the weight so that it's so that you're just you're able to rotate the controller more easily i just i just i'm i'm not this is probably a new problem i was just

teasing derek i always found that the original uh not vive what am i trying to the the valve oculus no the valve valve index index the original index controllers uh not knuckles there were other index controllers was there not the stick ones that don't have the wrapper on your those are vive controllers okay yeah those ones then i guess my bad uh i actually really like the vive controllers uh in regards to how it feels when it translates into the vr space like it feels like you're actually holding the yeah they have some weight to them yeah but if you're once you reach a certain level you don't want the weight anymore for sure yeah that's like gone i didn't get that far so i was still in the just like more experiential side of things right or uh yeah yeah vibe into

music yeah so they it felt more proper with those but that's my only actual input all right um from matthew i would love to know the upcoming tech that you think will we should be looking forward to the most over the next year or two um i mean obviously new gen graphics cards i think yeah okay you know what yeah i'm gonna pick one the ltt screwdriver amd's leaked zen 4 rdna 3 apu looks like it could be an absolute utter game changer for entry-level gaming gaming pcs like if you can get your CPU and graphics sorted out, remember we're going to have DDR5 memory,

so dramatically more memory bandwidth compared to previous gen platforms, which ironically doesn't matter as much for higher end chips that do not need to use their system memory for VRAM. So we're going to have this high speed memory and I think you are going to be able to build

a legitimate gaming computer for like $400, $500, $600. No GPU. With no GPU, and with great upgradability because these CPU cores are going to be so fast that there's going to be no reason to buy some Optiplex thing.

You should just get this you should just get this and it'll be everything you need today while you're like, you know, in high school playing, playing, you know, with high school money. And then it'll still be upgradable once you get out into the workforce and you are making more money, you throw a GPU in in there and boom you have actually created no e-waste whatsoever with this machine through two full upgrade cycles worth of of use like i'm i'm super excited for it it's it's almost certainly not worth anyone actually making on like any real scale um but like a one-off or something of a of a case that is built for a no gpu really really really small system would be pretty cool i'd love to see someone like framework do it

or something did you see they released disclosure i'm investor in framework did you see that they released their main board as a standalone part and then there's like it's either a 3d printed like schematic they released or there's like a basic case that you can get for it to just and it's a computer now it's like oh okay cool that's sweet yeah that's awesome that's actually really well they said they would so now they're out there keeping promises which is good that means i don't have to put them on blast publicly which is nice yeah that's good yeah because i you know it's not like i want to go out and be like yeah that thing i invested in it sucks and you should hate it it's not the best financial

decision for me. GremlinInjector in FlowplaneChat said that there's lots of cases out there because of nooks. Yeah, but I don't want a nook. A lot of cases like that. Well, I mean, okay, not all of them are nook nooks. There are AMD nook-a-likes is what I think we call

them. Nook-a-likes is what we like to call them internally. Because I think Intel actually pronounces it nook. So calling them nook-a-likes is what I think we call them. Nook-a-likes is what we like to call them internally. Because I think Intel actually pronounces it nook. So calling them nook-a-likes is really funny. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Anyway. Related to that upcoming tech, someone asked if you had seen the Ionia Air and if you're excited for that.

I didn't. Hold on. I need to be really careful the way that I answer this question let me just see Aya Neo Air is a thin and light I'm just gonna read what is in this article

the makers thank you Brad Linder of liliputing.com liliputing.com oh like liliputions that's very cute actually I've been on this site before the makers of the Aya Neo and Aya Neo next blah blah Aya Neo and Aya Neo Next, blah, blah, Aya Neo Nair, less than, ooh, very light,

just about the size of a Nintendo Switch Lite, but it's a full-fledged Windows computer with an XE. I'm worried about Power Envelope in such a small size. I don't know what kind of performance we're going to get. They haven't revealed which processor it'll use. Yeah, see, that's going to be pretty important. But the fact that they're not revealing it means it's use, yeah, see, that's going to be pretty important. But the fact that they're not revealing it means it's probably embargoed,

which means that it could be really good, because it's something we haven't seen yet. 12-watt Ryzen 5000, that's 5.5 or 6-inch display. Price will be competitive. Interesting, yeah. Okay. That is all I know about it. Sounds cool.

Question for Luke. Yeah. How's your personal rig running? Did you have any issues with the pin that you had to repair? None. It's been flawless, actually. Not a single problem. It's actually more stable than my previous computer.

Because my previous computer had some weird motherboard issues i don't know if you remember that um but yeah no no problems whatsoever it's been great uh from it's even it's even so i do have a ups but there's been a few power outages at my place um and it's been completely fine through all of those as well but again i do have a ups to add context to that from davante uh this is my first ltd store purchase thank you what is your dream product to be able to sell in the ltd store something that maybe we have absolutely no plans for like computer hardware or anything out of the ordinary dream hardware you know what's really funny is back when i bought this i was like man i want to i want to enjoy this but i can't with this screen we should like make kits to upgrade the screen of

the game gear thankfully someone else did it for me massive shout out because you did it as well or better than we would have and now i don't have to like build a business around that which is cool um yay so you kind of like almost want to be like a new age radio shack yeah well no i don't know if i'd say that man what dream product for us to create you know what i'm gonna open up my dock i'm gonna open up my dreams dock um and then why don't we have why luke why don't you get us through a topic while i while i check the Sure, let me see what we got. I mean, really my immediate dream is to ship a screwdriver or a backpack. Fair enough.

Let's not forget about that. Sega is removing old Sonic games from the store. Why? Sonic Origins is launching June 23rd. This is a remaster of the... Oh, that's why. This is a remaster of the first three sonic games released

on sega genesis it's apparently going to have everyone's favorite drm denuvo ray uh ahead of that sega is pulling games from digital stores they are pulling sonic the hedgehog one sonic the hedgehog two sonic three sonic and knuckles and sonic cd why would you remove sonic cd there are a couple of exceptions Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2 will remain available via Sega Ages on the Nintendo Switch and the and Sonic the Hedgehog 2

will still be playable via Sega Genesis on Nintendo Switch Online Plus this whole thing just sucks if I was Sega I'd be pretty desperate too but you can still play the games if you already own them uh but customers will no longer be able to purchase them then there's the discussion question um it says sometimes these newer releases lack features or have new bugs so why would sega do this either way regardless of what you purchase

they get your money so why not just keep them all up and then anthony says the current rights holders to duke nukem 3d did something similar with the current edition i don't even know there was a current edition the previous superior version was delisted so they could sell a new one granted it had a new episode but lacked many features and polish yeah this happens all the time yeah this sucks think about think about the the gta remasters right like those came out and everyone just immediately hated it think about like anything blizzard has basically ever done the warcraft 3 remastered or reforged or whatever they called it didn't everyone just like universally pan it it's a disaster if i remember correctly it hasn't been updated in like a year like at all it's just trash yeah i uh i've got

some answers for you. Yeah. Uh, answer number one, I think we should finally deliver that product that we joked about like six, seven years ago. The, um, uh, the,

uh, the, uh, clench to prone, uh, butt plug PC peripheral. Honestly, it's not a terrible idea.

I bet you at this stage in the company, we would actually be able to do it. I bet we could get away with it. Like back then it was like a pipe dream. At this time, we actually have the like, we could build it. Engineering know-how.

I was just waiting to deliver that. Oh no. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And potentially other controllers in the future yeah because or other haptic feedback because

you look at the way you look at the way unconventional game controllers have taken off right vision wanting to take more pretty much any any voluntary muscle in your body could be bound to some kind of control scheme right

so you're just like you're sitting there you're like okay it's tense moment you would just automatically clench to prone playing a horror game yeah where you bind like clench to prone except it's bound to like shoot or something to get your position away so you have to like not yeah it would be so interesting man the streams oh my goodness there's a new category on twitch it's like man and so and hot tubs and unique input devices chat would explode like every time you every time you crouch every time your flashlight turned on or something like man you know all all yeah the flash all of those streamers right they you'd bind something and then chat would absolutely explode

every time they like did that thing because you know they just want to know about that or something because twitch culture yeah you're awful um oh man yep yeah it would absolutely absolutely be a success absolutely people are asking for haptic feedback oh let's just add that to the of course it would have to have haptic feedback yeah i mean come on and it'd have to be like wireless you don't want to have like you know like if you know those pajamas with the little buttons in the back? You don't want to be dealing with that. Cable management? Come on. People are like, he's not wrong, boys. Shut up and take my money over on Twitch chat.

I think we could legitimately build it. There's some other stuff I have in my document of dreams. I would love to build like a bathtub scale rc boat like i think that would just be so much fun you guys should make a fire truck um rc fire truck oh my god okay that i don't want to do the amount of like plastic molding you'd have to do to create a product like that it'd be terrible just be a good uh homage okay what are some other what are some other like cool product ideas that I wanted to do? Oh, I wanted to do a USB

cable that stays exactly where you put it. Kind of like a GorillaPod. It's bendable so that it's always in the same place when you need to reach for it. I think it'd be super niche. Like really stiff, yeah. Lanish tush tips. Tush tips.

Oh, one of the ideas i had like way back in the day now that like cash is barely a thing anymore thanks covid was like the world's coolest piggy bank so it could be like wall mounted and it like sorts what you put in it displays the money through acrylic with like lighting and then there's like buttons to dispense like one or a roll of each coin or you can like key in how much money you want it'll just be like i thought that would be really cool just as like a like a super fun cool product um there's like so many weird things in here okay here's one here's a product idea a pcie half height adapter board from a 1x slot to a 16x slot. I probably came up with these before mining. I came up with this one before GPU mining took off. Because this probably like exists now. But the idea is to be able to install a 16x card in a 1x slot.

Without sawing the back out of the slot. Like I've had to do a number of times in the past. I think Yvonne should write a book. So like Yvonne's book. The YouTuber's Wife. What it's like to be in the support role, like, growing an internet famous person without, you know, being the one that's in the front, because it's actually a huge burden. She ended up having like a commiseration session with another YouTuber wife where they kind of talked. And it turned out they had a lot of the same challenges and a lot of the same struggles. Just, you know, and they kind of compared coping mechanisms.

And it was just a really interesting conversation. And I think it's something people would have found. I only overheard a little bit of it because I was busy YouTubing with the guy. But it ended up being a super interesting conversation. I only overheard a little bit of it because I was busy YouTubing with the guy, but it ended up being a super interesting conversation. Oh, here's something. Okay. I get so triggered when automatic dispensers, whether it's for like soap or hand sanitizer or whatever, I get so triggered when they dispense like three times the amount you need.

Like one of the things people have actually noticed that there's a mod on my on my soap dispenser in the kids bathroom sort of a mod i don't know two zip ties around the thing shortens the so that it shortens the throw so that they unless they pump it multiple times they actually can't dispense more than they need to wash their little kitty boo hands and so if i see them pumping it multiple times i'm like hey no one time because that is the exact correct amount i checked you don't need more and so i would love to just have dispensers that just always cleanly dispense the exact right amount of stuff and you could just like adjust it i know that some of that stuff exists but like you know what i wanted to do in terms of a product when i

was younger and this doesn't i i actually really wanted to push it then i realized that i would have to like i don't think it's going to work because i wouldn't want to sell the product directly i'd want to sell it to people it's a container basically i want it you know large peanut butter containers it's always annoying to get into the bottom it's very likely that you're gonna get peanut butter on your hand on your hands and stuff so what i wanted to do was you know how you screw the big green lid on usually yeah i want to make it so green if you're a pleb and you eat smooth but yes carry on well i don't eat smooth oh you're it might be a brand thing i like crunchy for sure oh okay

crunchy is like absolutely okay my brand green is smooth okay i don't know red crunchy i wanted to make so that halfway through the container there was the same type of screw mechanism that the lid has. Like exactly the same. And I figured out ways to do this so that once you're about halfway through, you could unscrew the top and then take the lid and put it on the lower half. I like it. Yeah. I like it.

But selling that as a product doesn't work. Yeah, that's tough. Because it already comes in a container. That's the problem with my dispensers thing yeah because like how do you get make that like a toothpaste was one of the ones i had here well people you take your whole toothpaste and like into the for soap a lot of people buy soap dispensers oh well yeah the soap yes for toothpaste so you're right yeah some of the other ones what are some of the other things i have you could probably get a toothpaste thing that squeezes the tube of toothpaste the right way yeah oh that sounds like a lot of engineering sounds significantly

more difficult yeah uh are they are they talking about soap sorry i just zoned out yeah yeah yeah actually uh easy text station that ended up getting done by someone else. Um, yeah, I don't know. I guess that's, oh, I had the idea of doing like a kiosk that prints greeting cards on demand instead of requiring a huge inventory and like a whole aisle. Uh, has I probably someone's done that at this point. That was like 10 years ago or something like that. I wrote it, wrote it, wrote that down. Uh, I came up with the idea of curated gift shopping like a thousand years ago.

So you just like fill out a survey about the person you're shopping for and it just like spits out a gift recommendation or like orders it for you also this one is one that I wish that Yvonne had like had the bandwidth to pursue because I think she could have built like a bigger business than LMG just like

doing her thing but a kids clothing service that just gives you the next size up, like when you're ready, and then you can just credit your old stuff by sending it back. So effectively like, because kids clothes, man,

a lot of it will wear out. Sure. Fine. But a lot of it, they're going to use for such a short period of time. And so lightly that it's like kind of a hassle to have to, to have to deal with like getting rid of it. And so just reducing waste by creating a service where it will just

automatically send you the next size, or you can just like press one button and like all the sizing is done in like a standardized way across, like instead of having to deal with all the different brands and all the different sizing, like ordering clothes online is a nightmare. And for kids it's even more of a nightmare because obviously they're you know they're all different right so being able to just go okay yeah here's their new size and everything shows up everything fits um i i think it's super valuable and i think

there's a company that's already doing that but we came up with that idea a long time ago and it could have been absolutely killer absolutely killer yeah send the ripped stuff back for recycling in a small credit i think it could have totally reduced waste reduced cost um like honestly our kids own almost no new clothing because brand new kids clothing is stupid there is so much perfectly good kids clothing out there that is just sitting rotting in a thrift store because they just get so much more intake than they can possibly sell so yeah uh people are saying some of the places that do that yeah exactly is it called rent a swag is this an idea on parks and rec oh okay apparently parks and rec did a bit on this well there you go not my idea then but makes

makes i don't know if i've never watched parks and rec but it makes a lot of sense especially in the kids context oh yeah for sure i think that's more specific it sounds like the parks and rec one just because it's called swag i'm assuming it's more adult focused one which is still i mean there's still some value there but it's much more interesting in the kids context because like for me i can wear a shirt for many years as long as the shirt doesn't deteriorate because I'm not growing. Yeah, exactly. When you're growing constantly, it's a bit of a problem. Oh, shoot, there was something else.

Shoot, I just came up with something and I guess I forgot about it. I was going to say I would love to have something and I forget. I guess it doesn't really matter. Why don't we just move on to the next thing? Yeah. From Anon, what are your thoughts on the aura ring and

the mandatory paid subscription any other thoughts or reviews coming my thoughts on the aura ring are that i like it my thoughts on the paid themselves um i i did end up getting fomoed into getting the latest gen 3 they offered it to gen 1 or gen 2 owners uh with a lifetime subscription if you upgrade like now so i was like i actually like this thing enough to buy another one and flip my old one but i do not like it enough to pay for it forever so i guess i'll go for it fair enough it does give me some useful insights i had the lowest readiness score since i got it uh while i had covid so it seems accurate apparently the parks and rec thing is literally based around kids so oh okay well there you go i came up with

the exact same thing um or maybe i maybe parks and rec was on in a room somewhere while i was present and i like subliminally absorbed it i don't know oh man there was man there was something ah it doesn't matter i guess i i guess i'm over it crap okay from garrison hey luke and linus what are the biggest tech failures you wish would have been a success i think we've done this one before. I think we basically said, um, uh, oh man,

it's on zoom. Like, I don't know. There's there's, I'm sure there's other stuff. I remember saying something. I think we did this one recently. Yeah.

From Joshua. Hey Linus, how big of a role do you play in the creative process at LTT in 2022, except for hosting and reviewing scripts? Did COVID affect the team in any way? I mean, obviously COVID affects everyone who gets it. Fortunately, we haven't had any severe, severe cases where anyone's, I guess I can't really speak

about medical things. Fortunately, everyone's good. How about that? We're really pleased that we haven't had to announce any COVID fatalities out of our staff. As far as me, I mean, it only really affected me making my brain pretty foggy for a while and being really sick for a shorter while. As far as being involved in the creative process, I would like to think I am fairly involved in the creative process still. And that's

something that I want to continue to be involved in. The team is amazing. They come up with ideas that I never would have. I still do like to think that I contribute pretty significantly to making ideas better. I am still where the buck stops in terms of what videos get made. We have weekly meetings that James and I run with the rest of the writing team. A lot of the time, I will end up just kind of rewriting things on the fly, you know, if we've got sort of a particular idea for how something goes. And I'm like, Oh, actually, did we think

of this angle? And it's like, Oh, no, that's a little bit different. And we'll just kind of run with it from there. One of the things that i do that i am still really good at is thinking on my feet if something goes wrong in the middle of a shoot that's that's where my creativity will definitely come into play um there are things that you know i have to be clear i'm not always right like i've been wrong many times uh jake is one of the ones that has really pushed me to like take the low-hanging fruit once in a while my dude you know stuff like linus responds to mean comments those were jake and james initiatives getting me to do more stuff like that um jake has been chasing me to do way more house updates for you guys but what it took to do it

was for me to get sick and literally not be able to make any other video. So, um, I think, I think sometimes you have to, you have to break line is down. Okay. We were trying to get you to do lower hanging fruit for since day one, the entire existence of the company. Look, I always want to do bigger and better. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I don't think there's anything wrong with low hanging fruit either. A lot of the times, not all the time. And you have to do bigger and better sometimes,'t think there's anything wrong with that but i don't think there's anything wrong with low-hanging fruit either a lot of times not all the time and you have to do bigger and better sometimes but sometimes that's just what people want it can break a team oh i remember what i was gonna say right uh one of the other things that i had really wanted to do was a handheld gaming pc but um valve and aya and one x player saved me the trouble

because they they're like really good so i no longer feel compelled yeah no reason to do it that space has a lot of competition yeah it's great i love it yeah i'm excited i think that's the next big form factor and honestly you know if i'm someone like nintendo who has just sat completely unopposed as king queen god emperor of the handheld gaming space i am shaking in my boots right now absolutely shaking in my boots because i was sitting here thinking oh well i can just charge 20 30 40 50 dollars for like ancient software and because i have a monopoly people will pay it oh boy now i Now I got to compete with like Steam like cheap games on Steam And like the e-word It's challenging Yeah you might actually have to like

Make new games and faster Better consoles Impossible What we should really do is just take more Wii U games And release them on Switch Are you Secretly a Nintendo executive Yes really do is just take more wii u games and release them on switch are you secretly a nintendo executive yes you know like it's actually stunning to me that i think no there's a switch smash i think actually um there's no new mario kart it's it's just mario kart from wii u i know like what

i heard i i haven't actually looked into it i heard there's a new dlc coming for mario kart from wii u i know like what i heard i i haven't actually looked into it i heard there's a new dlc coming for mario kart that's actually like huge yeah like it's an expansion yeah so that's cool i mean basically every mario kart is a dlc anyway so it seems fine fair enough yeah yeah yeah for sure so like that that's cool i'm actually happy about that but like wow that the length of time that they just let ips sit because they can just keep selling it for full price anyways is crazy. I just bought my son a copy of Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. Do you want to know how much I paid for it?

Probably full price? $79 Canadian dollars. Yeah, oh my goodness. And you know what I'm really mad about? It was on sale at Christmas time, and I was like, I'm going to order this. And then I was just like lazy, and I missed the sale.

Goes back up to full. And he asked for it for his birthday. Okay, I shouldn't say i paid for it uh it was more complicated than that actually you know what i'm oh man a relative paid for it but we compensated a relative through like other things yeah you know what it doesn't matter the point is it was expensive yeah yeah and it sucked it sucks because it's like a four and a half year old game or whatever um joshua also asked uh how are things going with backpack and screwdriver notification numbers the backpack is sitting at

42 798 we have so that new bigger lab um we hopefully have secured favorable financing terms. So we only need, I think, 10% down, which is good, because that allowed us to buy 10,000 more backpacks. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we bought more backpacks. We have 40,000 coming, which means most of you will be able to get a backpack. If you had to take a wager, I'm not actually asking for a real wager. If you had to take a wager not not i'm not actually asking for a real wager if you

had to take a guess um what type of conversion rate do you think you're going to get from notification sign we are hoping for somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40 percent that would be on the high side compared to what we get for out of stock notifications but because these are items that have been so in demand for so long and we've received so many inquiries um and they've never been available before so it's not like a back in stock notification this is like a hey if you don't get it now there's actually more people signed up to get notifications to get this than like we can make with our current cash flow um i i'm hoping for higher than typical typical somewhere in the neighborhood of like 20 to 25 percent yeah okay cool yeah however with a product like this i suspect a lot of people just are not bothering to sign up for notifications and it is entirely possible that when the first you know 10 000

screwdrivers of first 10 000 backpacks arrive they will literally be immediately gone. I'm sure that's true. So yeah, it could be interesting. You know what I think we might do? I don't want to take pre-orders, but I think for the first time, I might be willing to take back orders. And it's more because both the backpack and the screwdriver are going to be in production because the volumes are so high.

It's not like we haven't placed the order. It's not like the factory isn't working on it, but the deliveries are going to be in production because the volumes are so high it's not like we haven't placed the order it's not like the factory isn't working on it but the deliveries are going to be spaced out a back order is very different yeah so backpacks for example our 10 000 unit orders are going to arrive somewhere in the neighborhood of one to three weeks apart oh so it's not like sorry keep going so it's not like we are taking your money and maybe in six months you will get a product. No, these are ordered. By the time we sell out of the first shipment, probably two more shipments will be on the water. Like it is definitely coming. And so I think for the first time, we're just going to have to take back orders because otherwise I don't know how we would fairly distribute them. Unfortunately, our mechanism for notifying,

for sending email notifications when an item comes back in stock is not very good. All 40,000 of those people are going to get an email at once. And so if they don't... Some of them will be at home, depending on their time zone. Some of them are going to be sleeping. Some of them are going to be at work.

So if we don't give them an opportunity to kind of grab something from the second wave then they have to what we have to have them go sign up for a notification again we don't have a good way to manage it right now so i think taking back orders might be the only way to that might make sense and that's that's not the same thing as a pre-order because people will see reviews from other users and all that kind of stuff before like it's it's out in the wild yes before they make that purchase so i think that's gonna be my compromise and you know what different honestly i don't want to say never as far as pre-orders go once it's items that we have a little bit more expertise and we might take pre-orders for a follow-up screwdriver where we're just going yeah it's the same ratchet

mechanism uh we're working with the same uh you know the same tooling manufacturers for the molds it's going to be that thing but it's going to be small yeah we'll take your pre-order i you know i this one has like an empty back instead of the there's some variants that we're looking at right now based on the based on the reception to the release to the impending release of this one and based on how good we know the product is there's going to be more tools um so i'm not saying never i'm just saying these are unproven i don't want to take your money let's let's get them out there and we'll go from there cool um so yeah 42 798 for backpack 41 850 for black and orange screwdrivers and 37 421 for all black screwdrivers uh did we get sorry did we get 18 more all black notifications

While I was talking about it We're at 42.810 for backpack Hold on I'm going to refresh again Y'all need to chill out Less than a minute ago People signing up Have you announced in a mainline video That there's even signups

Yes we have I thought it might've just been when, uh, speaking of when, why don't we do like another topic or something? Sure. Apple launch a self repair. Actually,

are we in pretty good shape as far as topics? Oh, Twitter accepts Elon Musk's offer to buy Twitter, but you know what? I think that's all I have to say about that. Dude, to, to not talk about the,

the purchasee and to talk about the thing that was purchased. that was purchased, I did a little bit more looking into this. And it was sparked by an Atriog video. But I did a little bit more looking into this. And, man, do I just think he got scammed. You think so? It's just trash. Okay, first of all, I found from a different source that they've been, like, I don't want to say falsely reporting, mistakenly reporting, inaccurately reporting, whatever you want to say.

Sure. Their user counts. Twitter? They've like literally, as far as my, I wish I had a link for this. I believe it's like millions of users less than they said. To be fair, I think it's like two or three million compared to the like 200 and whatever million that they actually have. But it's still like, it's a lot of people less than what is actually there. And of course,

they find that out exactly now. Also, I have heard, let's look this up. Let's see if I can find it right now. It's crazy. You know what? Let's put it in context for a second. You know what? Let's put it in context for a second. Amazon bought Twitch for $1 billion. Okay, okay. Listen to this. And we thought that was crazy. And it probably was because... Oh, wait, is it even in the doc this week? Talking about Twitch, the rumored 50-50 revenue split?

Oh, I don't think so. We should talk about that. Like forcing streamers to play more ads and stuff. I have some hot takes on that, so we'll definitely talk about it. So I hope this blows your brain because it blew the heck out of mine. And I want some companionship here because this is nuts. Because I've been talking about how ridiculous Twitter is forever. And this is actually driving me insane. Take a guess at what their annual research and development expenses were for 2021

i don't know uh twitter hold on hold on hold on okay okay just give me a sec give me a sec you can't you can't ask me a big question like that and be like come on answer answer yeah yeah okay i'm thinking i'm thinking i will give you okay i want to think i want to think let me think let me think okay okay So they have software developers. Yeah. Okay. Software developers are very expensive. Yes.

So if their team is more than like five, six people, you know, their total expenses. And remember, your expenses includes more than just salaries, right? These people have to have a place to work. They need equipment. And salaries are more expensive than people realize because there's government costs. Yeah. They need Skittles. Okay.

And M&Ms. It's a modern web. government costs. Yeah, they need Skittles. Okay. And M&Ms. It's a modern web. Smarties. Oh, which I, oh, no, not Smarties. That's more of like a different candy in the States. Okay. It doesn't matter. The point is they need candy.

They're developers. Okay. So, so if you have even like a handful of developers, you're already spending a million dollars a year. So I'm going to say they have more than just a handful of developers you're already spending a million dollars a year so i'm gonna say they have more than just a handful of developers i'm gonna say they spend 20 million a year okay how far up am i um orders of magnitude orders yes shut up no they sorry two billion dollars a year uh so maybe not quite but 1.247 billion was their spend in 2021 look at what they've done with it

this is the like what are you doing and that oh they're so bad. Like, what did he buy? This is so trash. And like, okay, if you're a developer at Twitter, I'm sorry. It's honestly probably not your fault. Looking at that amount of expenditure and what you've been able to produce, this is probably a management issue. I know I'm regurgitating a Treyarch on that point, but I completely agree with him. That has got to be a management issue. The fact that you can't take one and a quarter billion dollars and create something better than like a glorified forum for admittedly a lot of people is crazy. Wait, hold on a second.

1.2 billion dollars is just R&D or actually includes operating expenses of running the platform? Research and development expenses for 2021. It's up 42.81% from 2020, which was $0.873 billion. It's still closer to $1 billion than, what did you say, $20 million? I said $20 million.

I figured they might have a team of like 50, 60 devs. Like, what do they even do all day? What do they do all day? They killed Vine. Which like if you were able to fast forward into the future and see TikTok. Yeah. Well, killing Vine was just obviously stupid. So stupid.

You didn't even need to fast forward. Vine was huge. One of the biggest things on YouTube. I don't know if you're like into YouTube at that point in time one of the biggest things on youtube for even years after vine shut down now was vine compilations they were huge vine shutting down created some of the biggest youtubers that have ever existed they shut that platform down just gave it. They're only now running just Twitter. It's one and a quarter billion dollars. Some people brought up in the past when I ragged them for the edit button and I was like, you could do this in a week. Yes, that's not enough time. Sure. I know. I know.

Yes, it's more complicated because they have to reference things in a lot of different places and they're trying to be very data scalable and they're going to get embedded on websites websites and they have to deal with that and yada yada yada and it's been built a certain way i get it they spend one and a quarter billion dollars on r&d figure it out you can send people to space what is spacex's uh just for another one of his companies spacex r and D budget. Let's see if it's even public. Okay. Um,

do, do, do. All right. Um, I'm just seeing comments about this, so I'm not entirely sure certain, but like that is an insane and absolutely ludicrous R and D budget for what they've actually produced on Twitter.

I do understand these massive development teams for these like really, really, really high end companies. There is a lot more technical bureaucracy in the way there's positives and negatives to that. I'm not going to get like way into that now. I know only certain people can actually push code and you're going to run into bottlenecks and like all this stuff happens absolutely but here's the thing apple spent 19 billion dollars on r&d for the fiscal year ending in september 2020 and has a product lineup that includes multiple operating systems and they're working on like cars and stuff like they're super wide reaching at apple well yeah and the thing you got to realize about apple is that that's one honestly

it's one thing that pisses me off the most about apple is that they are often at the forefront of product development whether it's micro led display um you know exploration for wrist devices or VR or cars or whatever it is. They are often on the cutting freaking edge. Oh, yeah. We just don't get to see a lot of it. Yeah. Or it's ludicrously priced. But Apple only spent one and a half times that probably by the time we're looking at the same year or

sorry sorry uh 10 10 times 15 times what does this work out to i'm sorry math is still got cover brain about 15 times the amount apple definitely has and apple is also a company that i often look at and go wow they spend an awful lot on R&D for how many products they actually make. I mean, when Apple is making you look like a complete idiot when it comes to R&D spending. Insane. Like, actually crazy. I had no idea. I've honestly spent a lot of this time when I'm, like,

ragging on how trash Twitter is, I've spent a lot of it just assuming that it's a like really small team that's just raking in the dough because there's like none of them and they have this really massive platform but that's not even true it also wasn't profitable bro you got ripped the hell off yeah you bought a dumpster fire That's a big problem is like Twitter. How on earth are you going to turn a profit? Apparently, when he who shall not be named got loans to make this purchase. A lot of it, the discussions at the bank included actually reducing staff count as one of the ways to approach profitability. Sure. And also he had apparently some other ideas.

I don't know. I didn't really look into it that far, but like apparently chopping down staff count is part of it. And I believe he specified like executives, which honestly looking at the spend and what they're getting out of it is probably the correct approach.

Sure. And I don't know what executives, I know nothing about Twitter. I know nothing about anyone that works there. I know I'm not claiming anyone individually. I don't care. It doesn't matter. But something has got to be going wrong here. I like it. It's insane. Apparently. Yeah, I know I'm getting a bunch of conflicting numbers about SpaceX and I don't really care. Just sending something to space seemed like a funny thing to reference. But like... I can't tell if Binary C here is being verbally ironic or not, but they said an unprofitable dumpster fire with a large intangible value is an ideal company to take private. I would actually think it's the opposite of that.

The other way around. It's an ideal company to like IPO. Go public. Yeah. And take a bunch of people's money and then... And then take off. Jack Dorsey out. Sorry.

It's take off. Peace, yo. Yeah. Yeah, it's... That's crazy. I just... I don't think I've been stunned by a statement that hard in a while.

Let's play a game. Okay. Because it's not like Elon's the first billionaire to buy a media organization as a way to swing, an unprofitable media organization as a way to swing their thing around. Bezos bought the Washington Post. And then immediately articles started running that were like extremely positive Bezos. But yeah, sorry. Yeah.

So, okay. You're a billionaire. Okay. Which would you rather have? What would you buy? The Washington Post or Twitter? Oh, man. I don't know.

I mean, if I'm, what is it? Rupert Murdoch, I just buy all of them. That's, I don't know. I feel like they're very different approaches. Because on one of them, you're attempting, well, I don't know. I don't want to presume what he's doing with it. Yeah. But on one of them, you're wrestling some form of control.

I'm not placing intentions at all. You're wrestling, this is, I think, objective. You're wrestling some form of control of an not placing intentions at all you're wrestling this is i think objective you're wrestling some form of control of an open forum yeah and then the other one you're theoretically not asserting any kind of control over it well no which the eu also already made very clear is absolutely not going to be happening unless twitter wants to pay i think somewhere in the neighborhood of seven percent of its of its turnover per year in fines they're like yeah you actually do need to regulate hate speech on the platform or you will either be fined to this degree or you will just be outright banned in the eu which would actually be pretty bad um for twitter well i mean they just lose money

anyways so i guess yeah i guess the fewer users, the more profitable, the better the balance sheet, chop that R and D budget down. Um, I don't, yeah, I don't know. I, uh,

I feel like you probably get more direct, direct value if that's your goal. And I mean, he hasn't stated that's his goal. So I guess it's not his goal, but I think you get more direct value by buying the uh the publication i'll be very interested to see what happens when and if there is some kind of non-free speech move that takes place on twitter whether it is um you know what

whatever the perception of it is i'll be interested to see how that goes. All right, why don't we move on to some more merch messages? From Joe, they asked specifically about Final Fantasy VI, but I'm going to open up the question a bit. What are your preferred ways to play old games on original hardware, remasters, re-releases, emulators, etc.? Final Fantasy VI is a funny one because the original translation has a lot of

character in it that is not true to the original text so it's it's bad it's flawed in that sense but because i grew up with it without classic lines like son of a submariner i i just i find it hard to enjoy it um i i really liked the way that the characters were developed by what's his name bill bill something um fantasy uh six translator uh ted we'll see sorry not bill anything ted we'll see was the translator for various square games including a couple of my favorites final fantasy six and chrono trigger and i i honestly, maybe he was a bad translator in the sense that he added some of his own character to the text, but I actually really enjoyed his style.

And so playing it again with any kind of fixed translation is a little, I don't know, it's a little weird for me. With that said, trying to share some of my favorite games from my childhood with my kids, it's very clear that there are creature comforts that they take for granted in modern games that make old games just not as enjoyable for them. So if I was going to recommend a version,

then I would probably recommend the Pixel Remaster. There's also the, oh man, what's it called? There's a Final Fantasy VI sort of fan, let's see, VI fan version, what's it called? I like the idea of remasters because I find a lot of times if I think about old video games, they look better in my head than they do in reality.

But I have been burned by so many remasters over the years that what I default to wanting is a properly functioning version of the original game which if I don't have to emulate is great if I do have to emulate is fine that's usually where I land best versions relocalization uncensored edition blah blah blah blah sprites, blah, blah. Sprites more like their Japanese originals. I don't know. There's one, there's one cool one that's like kind of altered in, in ways that make the combat more interesting. And there's like, like a bunch of changes to it. I really, oh, Brave New World, Brave New World. That's the one. Thank you, Twitch chat. Um, I tried it. I made it like halfway through the game and it was like pretty good.

Honestly, it was pretty cool. But you know, when i go back and play an old game honestly i'd rather just play the version i remember even if it's super broken like i played back through final fantasy tactics recently and just yeah there are things that are super stupid and frustrating about it but that's why i that's why i enjoy it so i like playing the original version i do still like some creature comfort things like save states that's why I'll almost exclusively play on an emulator. I think the Game Gear is a bit of an exception for me where I really do just want to play it on the original hardware because

the ergonomics are different. There's no controller on Earth that feels like that in your hand. That is just clearly meant to be played on here. Okay. From Nick, would you say the labs project

is something you see as a big profit-making investment or are you more doing it because you don't like the direction of the industry and you're using your position to change it? Little from column A,

little from column B. I think that as a business owner, it would be extremely irresponsible of me to just do stuff that is going to put the financial security of myself, my family, and my team in jeopardy. If I didn't believe that we can make money on labs, it's not something that I would be able to justify the multi-million dollar investment that we're going to be making into it before we can have any hope of turning a profit. But with that said, there are absolutely things that we could pursue in the short, mid, and long term that would be more profitable than labs. So on the one hand, yes, my intention is to make money i have never i have never claimed to be

anything other than running a business and honestly i think that's the reason you guys should trust me because if i was doing something other than running a business i might try to get away with stuff like i you know way back in the, you know, we'd have people who are sort of questioning, you know, are we going to be honest with you guys? And the answer was always, well, yeah, because the internet never forgets. And if we screw with you guys, you will know, you will find out,

and you will know forever. So transparency has always been the best way for us to retain that trust. And that trust is the most valuable thing to us. So because this is a business that we're running and our main value as an organization is viewer trust, then the relationship is very clear. I never like to enter an arrangement or a business agreement where I don't understand the value to both sides. The value to my side is making money. The value to your side is getting entertainment and

information. So if I can't keep doing those things, I'm not going to make money. So that would be bad for my business. With that said, there are other businesses that I absolutely could have gotten into. I do this one because I love it because since I was a teenager, what I would do in my spare time is sit and answer people's tech questions and help them make the best purchase that they can. So yeah, it's a business,

but it's also something that I do because I just like to do it. I think that probably answers it pretty clearly it's not the most eloquent way of putting it but like I honestly I still have a little bit of COVID brain I'm not no last one in particular I kind of feel like I am all over the place it's not a very good show but it was also the first time we had done a remote show in a long time and it felt so bad it was laggy it was laggy. If you guys want to get some idea of how I intend to make money on the labs, there's a post on the forum where, again, back to transparency,

I lay out the plan. Okay? One of the ideas, wellspring of content for LTT. That also includes Short Circuit, includes any future channels. I think that as we start testing products by the dozens or the hundreds interesting patterns and stories will emerge hey maybe someone is seeding golden laptop samples with liquid metal instead of standard thermal paste or you know maybe in a power supply from a brand no one heard of is the undisputed king under 70

dollars video is still immensely profitable so we have the funding to go and create this testing apparatus to make our videos better. Why don't we just do it? Two is affiliate revenue. If LTT Labs achieves my goal of creating an alternate spec sheet where pretty much it's the only site you need to make a good purchase decision, then we should be able to get a ton of affiliate revenue from it. Advertising on site is

unlikely. I hate ads. So I just don't think there's going to be a ton of that on there. It's possible we'll put some banners here and there, but it'll be more likely that we're just pushing the channels, pushing affiliate revenue, that sort of thing. We could get into certification programs and third-party validation. This one has the potential to create muddy waters but i think there's ways that we could silo it to make it so that it doesn't have to and the certification team um doesn't have to affect the editorial team maybe they just don't even talk to each other they're in completely separate offices i like i don't know i think we could figure it out i think that's also probably the one that's like furthest down the line that's a fair yes that's a fair ways down the line well i would have said, but then we had a large global brand

reach out to us earlier this week asking us to take a look at a product that is in the very early stages of development to provide feedback on it. I decided that where I'm at today, I'm going to accept that, but not paid. So I just am really interested in this product and i'm really

passionate about it and uh but i'm not in a position where a i have the time to like provide proper feedback and we don't have the expertise set up yet and b to have the facilities to provide empirical objective feedback. We don't quite have that $1.2 billion R&D budget yet. Yeah, I could use $1.2 billion. I think I could do a lot with $1.2 billion. Yeah, probably a little bit more than Twitter. Yeah.

So the way that I did this, I don't think it creates any kind of conflict of interest for me to be involved. I just really want this product to be better. And I know that I will have some ideas if I, if I play around with it. So that was, that was my, that was my compromise for now. But I think in the longer term, it would be better for me to just recuse myself from that sort of thing. Like I could talk to the team about, you know, here are, here are ways that we want to guide the industry towards being better. We should really be focused on things like repairability. As we, as we being better. We should really be focused on things like repairability. As we,

as we provide this feedback, we should be focused on things like not saving a dollar today to cost the consumer $10 tomorrow, like putting together those guiding principles I would like to be involved in. But in terms of the actual evaluation of the products and, and even knowing like how much the transactions are either way, I think I should just not be involved in.

Right. Um, uh, turning our testing knowledge into product development processes. This one is going to happen. I promise you this will happen. If we figure out how to make the best keyboard, why don't we just make the best keyboard?

Yeah. There's conflicts of interest there too, but I don't know. make the best keyboard yeah there's conflicts of interest there too but i don't know we'll figure it out i i'd like to think that if i had a mouse pad i could still say another mouse pad is really good i mean we even said that in our launch video for the mouse pad we were like yeah hey we weren't quite at the spec of this other mouse pad we think it's okay because you actually have to travel like this many meters for it to drift this amount we think that's accurate enough for your caveman hands. But we know that this one actually did a better job.

Shout out them. I'd like to think that we could be trusted that way, but I guess we'll have to see how that turns out. It's a fine line to walk, but it's also technically a fine line that we've been walking the entire time. For a long time. There's the possibility of putting certain

content behind paywalls like having professional level content versus consumer level content and it seems unlikely to me but it's possible um and then there's direct sales of products through the site why don't we go full circle and become a retailer like why do we take affiliate revenue when we can just put up a warehouse and just sell it to you directly. There's more conflicts of interest there, potentially. I don't know. We're just going to have to navigate this the best way we can. And you guys will tell us if you think we've done it wrong. And we'll tell you guys if, sorry, that's the way it's going to be

because we actually can't sustain the labs without it or whatever that ends up looking like. We're just going to do our best to keep the guiding principles of why are you doing this well one to make money but two as we are making money we absolutely are setting out to create better information for consumers to to to stop the bleeding of all the knowledgeable people going to the manufacturing side where they literally have no choice but to shill for the brand that pays their paycheck. I'm tired of it. Anyway, if you guys want to check out that post on the forum, it's on the thread called LTT is about to change and it's on page six. And I just, I laid the whole thing out. I'm like,

yep, here's the plan. Because why bother? Oh, look at this. I've got a, I've got a mission statement that I wrote. LTT labs is the answer to manipulation of onsite reviews and the degradation of the quality of online tech media over the last 10 years. There. That's our goal. Cool. Awesome.

From Charles, but also many, many others. Uh, they were wondering about any news on a rack mount case either if we're selling it how yours is going if you're going to get your neighbor to repaint it if you do a new one there's so many questions uh neighbor steve is probably too busy uh you know neighbor steve is still here right he just moved down or something yeah like down at the end uh neighbor steve is probably too busy to airbrush me a case um yvonne i think does want to keep her owl so she may keep her original case but we are in the very early stages of designing a new case for me if that

goes really really well then i don't think it's impossible that we would find a case manufacturer to partner with to build a rack mount gaming case yeah i i know i know it's impossible that we would find a case manufacturer to partner with to build a rack mount gaming case yeah i i know i know there's a lot of people who are super into it man watching the your home video i finally actually did watch it um which one there's a lot that sorry the uh you're you're we're leaving this one oh yeah yeah yeah yeah the feels man yeah a lot of that there was there was so much stuff that i feel like was missed but i feel like if you hit everything it would have been three hours long yeah so there was there was things that i was like i knew i cared about a lot and i like

wish was in the video but then i had to think like okay does the audience care as much do you and yvonne care as much etc okay here's my merch message uh hit me with a couple okay okay can i guess can i guess a couple i'm gonna write them down i'm gonna write them down yeah uh and then i want to know if i get the same ones as you um okay okay okay hold on uh Let me think. Things that would be really special to Luke. I'm waiting. I'm trying to think of more while I sit here.

I've already thought of one additional one while I was sitting here. I've got three. Don't look at them. I will also say I thought it was good. I thought it was really good. I enjoyed the whole thing. I actually sat down and actually watched the whole thing which is like not that common there's some stuff that i'm really unhappy that i didn't put in too so we'll see if your list overlaps with mine a little bit the original three wan locations because there's three different hold on hold on

hold on okay i gotta i gotta hold on i gotta i'm gonna turn this text white. I swear, I swear to you, that's all I'm doing. He's not even typing. There you go. That's the first one I wrote down. Yeah, okay. And okay, so what was to the left of that was the peg wall. My next note was going to be the peg wall. So I was gonna bring that up too.

Just like the garage in general like oh my god hold on hold on hold on okay highlighting highlighting ready highlighting yeah what did i write the general layout of the garage yeah yeah oh man every once in a while he he guesses things that i'm thinking and it's actually like terrifyingly accurate um this is not the only time this has happened like at all um okay uh am i gonna go three for three well i guess i got three because i had i had the peg wall in the land show set as Kind of like one but yeah, okay, so I'm three for three so far What's the next thing you're gonna say the next thing would be my room? Okay, that's pretty good

For that's all I have down though. Yeah, I mean that's mostly it There was there was other things that I thought of, but like, even I was like, yeah, it probably shouldn't have been in the video, but like, I don't know. There was, there was. Oh, that was so fun. That's pretty funny. Yeah. Honestly, I thought of all of them afterward and I regretted not having them in.

There's so much stuff. There's like, there's two, I, cause I tried to think about like, like what would i have done and i'm like yeah i don't know like there's there's too many things because like even if you walk in the backyard yeah there's almost no direction you can face where there wasn't like some type of major event something crazy that happened like the the like fence jump for that commercial that was at the langley house nope i promise nope i know because i hurt myself the corsair commercial oh that fence jump i mean we've done a few fence jumps it was the one the one where i flipped for the be quiet thing oh i remember that one well because i was quite hurt for a while that was actually that was actually genuinely not a very good idea um but yeah there's a lot of like little things like

that where i'm like i would have cared where I went up on the roof and threw the keyboard down Yeah yeah Like I just The weird thing I shot in the shower for that like WD Computex promotion yeah there's like So much weird Stuff we shot in that house Back in the day

We didn't have sets guys His whole house Yeah yeah I don't We need to do a sets guys like you know what his whole house yeah yeah i don't yeah oh we need to do a scene where like you know the person wakes up in the morning okay well i'm gonna go get into my bed yeah so yeah i don't know it was it was really good but yeah it would have yeah it would have literally had to been like at least over an hour long oh yeah for sure and we cut so much from from that that i did end up talking about yeah yeah from michael who built their first pc with the help of our videos one question i've always wanted to ask is how you got into badminton oh um my wife got me into it and no ltt could not lose me to professional badminton I'm not that good there's only one major tech tuber who is a professional athlete and it is not this one

from John are you excited about the rumor of Intel returning to the high-end desktop market with Alder Lake X or do you think that market is dead with the current core counts on high-end consumer CPUs like the 5950X? Man, I hope it's not dead. Because, like, honestly, thinking about it from a developer standpoint or, like, a prosumer standpoint. It's really nice to be able to get that, like, tier or class without buying the badge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, 100%.

Yeah. I'm jazzed. Yeah. In a nutshell i do think that hddt is more niche than it used to be i mean 5950x is a 16 core freaking consumer cpu and new zen 4 based ones are going to be like even more better presumably but there is still a value to it. I mean, we're, we're sort of frustrated right now because we standardized on TRX 40 or whatever the STRX 40 or whatever AMD's Threadripper 3000 series platform was.

We standardized on it for our editing stations, thinking that we were going to get at least one more generation of CPUs. We actually ended up getting nothing. And now we, is it the boards or the chips that we standardized on that are EOL? The point is that it's hard to find more hardware for our workstations at a reasonable price. And there also is not a clear replacement for it with all the PCIe that we need. And there also is not a clear replacement for it with all the PCIe that we need. Like we've got 25 gigabit NICs in there, high-end GPUs that are actually being used for, not for gaming, like for data use.

So the PCIe bandwidth actually starts to matter a little bit more. Sometimes they have other kind of crazy peripherals we need to plug in. We need lots of PCIe, we need lots of memory bandwidth, we need lots of cores. They're all running 24 cores in there and there's not a clear successor for it unless we want to pay lenovo for their they're the only authorized vendor of like the new thread pro because you can't get normal like regular prosumer thread ripper it has to be professional thread ripper now like it sucks yeah so i'm mad not a huge fan of cpus are in a way better space now than they were a while back but not a huge fan of where the hdt

space is i want intel to come in and like light a fire under amd's butt which sounds like a very backwards thing to sound so weird but you're totally right but i mean i warned you guys about this i said look the second second AMD has the upper hand, they'll behave exactly like Intel. And they did. They're not your friend. There's no good guy and bad guy when it comes to CPUs. What we want is competition.

Yeah. And we got it in certain spaces and not in others. There's been a lot of speculation about who the tech YouTuber athlete is. It's Marquez. He's insanely athletic. Some of his clips of his ultimate Frisbee are actually like... Otherworldly.

Amazing, like pure highlight reel golden goodness. I still think I could beat him at badminton though. Has he ever played? I don't know. Not enough, I can tell you that much. I could almost definitely beat him at badminton nice i like it no i'm not gonna say almost definitely okay marquez 10 grand oh let's go dude that'd be really cool i would i don't want to take his money

i mean i will if he really wants me to but what if you just make it that he gets 10 grand if he wins and it's just a full full ego placement there is no actual okay sure nice yeah i don't want his money but yeah i'll give him 10 grand if he beats me nice there i love it much that'd be sweet i would commentate that yeah yeah i'd be super down we should totally stream it turn it into an event yeah you know what i could make it's like youtube or not yeah there we go it's like youtuber boxing yeah do you see but not boxing yeah you know it's so funny because remember back when the paul brothers were first getting into that we were like i should fight austin and that went like it became like a whole meme and now like dr mike is fighting in a box

yeah i'm sitting here what dr mike versus i dubsbbz or whatever. So funny. Oh, man. I just want to know why they didn't invite me. I would have totally fought Austin. Oh, my goodness. We could do almost like a reverse nerd sports. A reverse nerd sports? Where you have to get nerfed until people beat you in badminton. Oh, man.

I don't know. That might not be that interesting. Nerd sports was too traumatic for me me i don't want to talk about it oh man okay let's keep moving on from osama when you're feeling down on yourself what do you do to pull yourself out of a funk oh man that's a tough one i think i can speak for both of us when I say we've definitely had funks. Yeah. You know, I think for me, sometimes it's a matter of just reframing the problem. Like when I did the 10 million subscriber stream, one of the big things that helped me for the next couple of years was, you know, saying, OK, well, no, I'm not going to do this because I have to. I'm going to do it because I want to. And finding things that I enjoyed and wanted to do

and focusing on those. A big thing that pulls me out of bed in the morning is just the sheer sense of responsibility. Like if I don't show up for work, like obviously one day is fine. If I'm just like, yeah, I'm taking a flex day. But if I don't show up for work for like a year, there's a lot of mouths that literally don't eat,

which can actually make it worse sometimes sometimes but usually makes it more manageable um i uh just sorry there was something in chat that i wanted oh someone was was saying that it might be more interesting to marquez and other creators if it was a uh charitable donation instead of a prize anyways um for me sure i mean he can always donate it i don't care yeah that's fair i mean we've done it that we've done things that way in the past where we just say here's a prize you do whatever you want with it yeah like like i mean i'm not i'm okay i really don't like charity pressure fair enough yeah i think that and man i'm going into hot take territory here i think that a lot of a lot of charitable and philanthropic actions um are about posturing are about image whitewashing are about um brand building and are not necessarily about actually giving up anything personally

or making a huge impact. We do charitable stuff here, but for the most part, we keep it fairly quiet. Under wraps, yeah. Because it's, A, I just don't want to be accountable for what i care about and want like i've seen i've seen creators get backlash for donating for example to the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals like why would you donate for animals when humans are still starving oh geez you know what why don't you there might you go do something for the humans that are starving? People have different causes that are important to them for a variety of reasons.

And that's their personal business. Totally fair. So I just don't feel like having that conversation. It's a stupid conversation and I'm not going to burden my life with it. I also just, I don't know. I just, it just feels, it just feels like, it just feels icky. Like I don't like being bothered at the cash register about it. Um, I, I don't like, yeah, I just, I don't like, I don't like there being that pressure.

And so I, that's, that's definitely fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. And there shouldn't be, you know what? There's nothing wrong with a major content creator doing some kind of doing some kind of event doing some kind of appearance and making money from it 100 yeah like and i've been very clear with you guys from day one i'm running a business i can't pay luke in your goodwill for my charitable donation to something.

So at the end of the day, for me, maybe this is a selfish take, but it's me and mine first. I am far more concerned with making sure that everyone working under this roof has a place to live than I am with the people who are not under this roof and are not contributing to the success of this organization and that's not to say that it's you know just us all the time it's just this team first first yeah and i like you yeah sorry yeah i don't think it makes me a bad guy. One of my favorite things to dive into is like, uh, when,

when some like hyper rich, like, like the last one I did was Bezos. He like donated a ton of money to something. And people were like, wow, what a generous person. And then people dove into it and was like,

Hmm, it's like the equivalent of me donating $4. If you, if you like do percentages and stuff like, now it's complicated because it is it should be very clear guys that someone's net worth is a almost assuredly not accurate tied into b is locked up in assets just because okay let's use elon just because elon musk has a net worth what is it like 250 billion or something like that it's changed a lot recently

still had to get financing to buy twitter for 44 billion that's not just cash yeah like my my net worth i can tell you right now is a hell of a lot more than i have in my bank account that's just how it works in fact the vast majority of it which i know for a fact maybe i'll talk about it someday but the vast majority of my net worth is tied up in a thing that i actually can neither sell nor borrow against i know that it's worth that but i cannot extract money from it so it's it is what it is yes it's it's theoretical money right yeah um to jump back to the the um get out of the funk thing i was in funk for a long time i don't think i've talked about this

on camera much i'm not going to go into it much more than that kelton's being kelton's being a tool over on twitch let's not talk about the locked up in assets thing please you can take a loan against your investments at which point you can borrow against that money. But your investments might not be the kind of investments you're thinking of. Yes, there are certain kinds of investments that you can borrow against. There's a really, really crafty wealth management strategy where you take out, oh, I forget how it works exactly. Someone explained it to me at some point. But there's this kind of life insurance that you can get where you're basically like putting the you're basically putting the cash in a big pile that is like a life insurance policy and then that cash because it's basically just cash allows you to borrow against it tax-free and then when when you die, the policy pays out, the money pays back in,

and then you never actually had to take out the money personally and pay tax on it or something like that. I forget exactly how it works. Yes, there are assets that you can borrow against, but there are also assets that are not easily borrowable against. I couldn't even get a mortgage in the first couple of years of lmg because this business that was generating plenty enough money to be eligible for a mortgage if i was buying a house personally it's just like too new was just like no no okay that was actually an incredibly apparently it's called universal life policy or index for universal life insurance not financial advice that's according Who knows? Not financial advice.

That's according to Twitch. Yeah. Not financial advice. I'm not a financial advisor. Okay. Sorry. What were you going to say? Yeah.

So I was in a funk for a pretty deep one for quite a while and I'm not going to go into it further than that. But since then things have been getting a lot better. And what I've more recently been doing is whenever I find myself spiraling, I try to immediately do something physical. Physical health is mental health. Oh, it's like actually... You got to keep your body healthy. Yeah.

So I try to go for a walk, which sounds lame, but works significantly better than it should. Try to go for a walk. On those walks, I find I don't usually... This is going to sound provocative, but I don't usually, this is going to sound provocative, but I don't usually physically stimulate myself enough. So I'll, I'll try to usually go for, go for walks.

I can help with that. Uh, a lot of my walks will, when I'm spiraling, it's often very, very late at night. Um, because I,

I am a night owl. So I'll just like go for a walk at three 30 in the morning. Yeah. And I'll be out in the field and I'll just like go for a walk at 3.30 in the morning. Yeah. And I'll be out in the field and I'll just like do squats and lunges and all this kind of stuff just to like get myself worked up, sweat a lot and then go have a shower.

And often that's all I need. And I feel great afterwards. I like going for a ride. What's nice about riding on a motorcycle is that if you're in like a busy mind state, you cannot stay in that state of mind when you're riding on a motorbike so it's gonna you must be focused or you'll die the biggest and another another thing that i would say is is certain people in my life i have found are very effective at pulling me out

so i try to a lot i'm quiteverted. I like hanging out by myself. But I find that sometimes that's not good for me. So I need to push myself to hang out with those people. But one of the biggest things that I find is, is just like context changes. So you were talking about on the motorcycle, you can't, you can't let your mind just run. There's this, there's this really old concept where like, if you're in a in a potentially confrontational situation and this is a fun fact i've used this for fan interactions when i notice that the person is feeling very anxious i will do this because it helps to shift frame of mind um but if you it's this is just a funny thing like if you're facing someone if you

step off to the side randomly it's like kind of weird and people will now think about like oh i'm i'm looking at them i have to talk into this at the same time i'm looking at them like this now this is weird i'm going to turn my body oh i unplugged myself but like it it starts making them think about things that aren't i'm really anxious about this conversation i'm really nervous and it it actually can really help like calm people down which is kind of cool um you ever used it on me no no all right well i don't think so i don't know it's been a long time dude um but yeah i don't think so but a lot of the time for me it's i just need to do something different and usually i'll use a walk but it could be something else if i'm in a situation

where i can't go for a walk it's basically anything else just do something different change my action but yeah that's it i still ride an sv650s um and armchair yiddish asks if i had someone who wanted to give you money for a significant but non-majority portion of ltd would you take it it would depend on the terms every investor wants something that's literally the definition. You put something in, you expect something back. And I'd need to know what that is, because if I, A, don't agree with it, or B, don't understand it, then I'm not going to be comfortable taking it. Before we go to the last set of merch messages did you want to talk about twitch the chat is reminding oh um yeah i saw a really terrible take from a twitch creator that was like twitch should just have ads that are totally non-intrusive like to the viewer like their ads should just like not

be intrusive and i was looking at it going you know this feels like that whole thing remember when there was the big controversy on youtube where they uh basically started enforcing like ad advertiser friendly guidelines on videos and it was affecting the rate at which you could get monetization and you had this this whole outrage from especially certain corners of youtube that created very non-advertiser friendly content and my take at the time i felt like was very controversial and not received very well where I basically said well yeah did you expect was going to happen at some point there was going to be a reckoning where advertisers were not going to want you guys don't understand you don't work with like national and international brands they are extremely conservative when it comes to,

and obviously not all, there are exceptions, but they're extremely conservative when it comes to the associations between their brand and other things. You know, you look at the way that they will, you know, you'll watch like a Nike commercial and it's just like someone persevering. And at the end, there's just like a Nike logo

and there aren't even like any words or anything because it's all about association they do not want the next thing you see after that low for the same reason they want you to see a bunch of whatever before you see the logo they do not want the next thing you see after the logo to be something that they consider to be not brand friendly it's just that simple and so I feel like this is another one of those situations where I'm going to come in and I'm going to say, well, yeah, what did you think was going to happen? Do you have any idea how much Twitch costs to run?

And do you think that banner, like static banner ads on a website are going to pay for it? I promise you, I give you my personal linus tech tips guarantee that unintrusive ads are not going to pay for a site like twitch no matter how many of them they plastered on the page unintrusive ads don't pay for the forum because because no advertiser is going to pay for an unintrusive ad because they don't work, because they don't call your attention away. Obviously.

No offense. No offense, whoever does not understand how web advertising works, even though it's like how they actually make a living. My take on it is the thing that surprised me the most. Okay, first of all doing it at all when your competitors are not i understand that twitch is losing money but if they don't want to essentially die they're not going to have to have like significantly worse uh

revenue potential than other lives so hard and so expensive oh absolutely like i i sympathize for them truly but like it just doesn't matter if you want to survive um and then the other one is uh that that they announced no longer having exclusivity and exclusivity is rough rough rough rough for twitch creators it's really really bad for the creators um but making their revenue split worse than youtube well i hadn't even talked about the revenue split yet i was talking about the the that twitch creator yet that's terrible making making the rev split worse than youtube and then also allowing people to split stream to youtube hilarious hilarious they're just gonna push everyone over onto youtube

so obviously man we should maybe twitch is done if they go through with this move twitch is done i wonder if we should be calling it productize our our stream splitting stuff i've told you i want to productize the stream splitting thing eight years ago it didn't make a lot of sense then it might make sense now well maybe if you had built it when it didn't make sense we would actually have a product ready to go when it doesn't make sense that product for eight years that smart guy eight years it hasn't been that long i thought you said eight years i don't know whatever it doesn't matter uh gyrinthier over on twitch says ads don't really work anyway that's the kind of smooth brain take that i would expect from twitch chat ads don't work do you have any idea how big the advertising industry is?

Yeah, ads don't work. Doesn't function. You're right. We don't have any backend information on how much turnover we, I don't know what the correct term is for it, but push with ads, none at all. Yeah, yeah, we have no,

it's not like we do any advertising at all in our business. Never. And it's not like anyone has ever bought anything that we've advertised. Nope. Please, come on. And like to be clear i'm not saying that they work on you maybe they don't maybe you're magic honestly i don't really see them either i was gonna say you you in particular i think really don't see ads it's actually like stunning like it'll be the most blatant most aggressive thing on the page you'll ask him about it like four seconds later he'll be like what it's not everything other than that i can't see it but yeah i don't know but they don't kid yourself literally one of the most valuable companies in the world you might have

heard of it google sorry alphabet excuse me um that that that like their entire business they have entire free services like youtube and gmail that are sustained based on targeting ads more effectively at you so that they will work even better oh anyway um jordan asks oh sorry i'm doing your job oh you didn't talk about the cargo the the the revenue the rev split oh yeah they're doomed yeah i mean it doesn't matter if they're losing money on a 50 50 rev split if everyone else is still. Oh yeah, they're doomed. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter if they're losing money on a 50-50 rev split. If everyone else is still doing 70-30, then they're completely screwed.

As for having creators push more ads, yeah, I mean, that's just normal. That just needs to happen because banner ads, no, are not gonna do it. Sorry, nameless creator. And probably more than one creator. I don't even think that's a controversial take in that community because there were like tens of thousands of upvotes on this super big brain idea that ads should just not disrupt the user at all like oh man oh man

anyway back to the messages yeah yeah if any creators want to leave twitch uh floatplane we'll we'll take it hey let's go i don't know if we're ready to be like a twitch competitor but what we have a live streaming only creator and he's killing actually that's true i was looking at the payouts uh yvonne just had it up on her on her uh monitor and i walked in i was like oh and the the users are stoked and like it's it's actually a very vibrant community but a more a more likely product might be i mean it's a little the ui is not great right a little early but our multi-streaming works great i don't know if you noticed but we are live right now on float plane twitch and youtube and we could be live on facebook if we really felt like it couldn't we

could we should just do it sure like why not i think i mentioned that like a long time ago yeah well i was wrong if I said no. I don't know who said no. Yeah. Maybe we both said yes and then just forgot. That's, with these guys. Definitely possible. Dude, if it doesn't end up in like some form of solid documentation, it's gone.

My memory is a sieve. Not a good one. One with lots of holes in it. Well, I mean, a good sieve would have. Okay. You know what? I've've had enough i need to block you blocked oh yeah why didn't we just call call them out uh chris's 429 says garbage time yeah let's just call out garbage time dude it's awesome content yeah doing great super cool doing great over on flow plane yeah and like the thing is honestly kudos to garbage time for getting it for understanding that the reason whether it's patreon screwing

over creators or twitch screwing over creators the reason is that these are unsustainable business models we know because we're like running one so yeah he totally understood we talk about it like every time i i really enjoy talking to him we. So just in case people don't know, Garbage Time is the same person that runs Dank Pods. Garbage Time on Floatplane is a very music-based stream. He's a drummer. He's a very good drummer. And he plays like meme songs

and runs drum tracks along with them. It's fantastic. It's very fun. It's tons of years. He's building like a new studio and he's building a heavily reinforced door so that he can hit it harder with symbols because every once in a while he'll just like throw symbols around and stuff it's it's it's a fun show it's a fun time but i know one of the reasons why he likes it and why his fans like it

is because it's a music stream oh right that's right our audio quality is so much better than like i don't think there's another video people like immediately when showing up are like whoa it sounds really good even when they don't know that that's like a thing with floatplane yeah so yeah cool i don't know floatplane's like actually really good and considering the fact that we have like seven devs and twitter it's 1.2 billion sorry oh okay sorry not everyone who works at floatplane is a dev sorry um and then twitter has 1.2 billion dollars to create that steaming pile of garbage yeah floatplane's like amazing but yeah our multi-streaming thing allows us to simulstream on really any platform that we want yeah like we could spin up

facebook like now but with just one with one source which is which is pretty cool and then we also have available and stuff i'm sure the infrastructure guys are going to yell at me when we have merch messages we have merch messages which anyone could theoretically use if they also have a shopify based like merch thing i mean there'd be some dev to productize it. So we've actually talked about that internally and there's quite a bit of dev to productize it. It's not impossible. Yeah.

But yeah, a bit of work. Like a lot of work. All right. Well, hopefully Yvonne's in bed because the next two questions are about marriage tips. Oh no.

First one here is from Jordan. Hey Linus, I'm getting married in October and I'm curious, are there any special stories regarding your wedding bands? Um, for our wedding bands, the story is that

they were cheap and fine, I guess. I didn't even want a band. I wanted to do tattoos because at the time, I'm totally used to it now, but at the time,

I didn't like wearing hand jewelry and I just didn't want something on my hand all the time. Now I feel naked without it, but I just, yeah, I just wanted a tattoo. And I was like, come on,

this should be better. Like it's more permanent. I'm like, I'm in it to win it, baby. Let's, let's, let's go.

Let's tattoo. She was just not into body, body paint. And so she said, no, I prefer a band. So I kind of went, okay. And then Yvonne doesn't even wear her wedding band.

I don't think she's had it on since she gave birth to our firstborn, which was like however many years ago. It's been a bit. Yeah. So she just wears her engagement ring. And the story there is that I actually went and learned a ton about diamonds. Because my whole thing was, okay, if I have to blow a bunch of money on a scam, then I might as well get the best scam possible.

So I picked a diamond that I felt was best suited to her. I could have gone bigger, but from my point of view, if it wasn't internally flawless, then it wouldn't be a good representation of Yvonne. She also has extremely slender fingers. That's cute as heck. And I thought, sorry?

I said that's cute as heck. And I also thought that because she has extremely slim fingers, it would be it would look kind of out of place and could even she worked with her hands a lot she's a pharmacist at the time could even get in the way if it was too big i also really preferred a more low profile setting and that was for the same reason i liked a simple setting because she's practical so it's just a simple four-pronged setting on a traditional hearts and arrows

diamond so it's a canadian diamond which was really important to me no conflict gem is going to go on my wife's hand um that's cool and that part um i'm just trying to think of like what else what else mattered to me i bought the diamond in the and the setting independently i forget why i did that right i just there was a setting i really liked and there was a diamond I really liked and there was no point getting them in one place. And compared to buying them both together at a jewelry store, compared to buying the diamond online, it was significantly less expensive.

Pure Drifter says borderline going for the G-Assert. Of course it has a G-Assert. Like, no, it's like a proper, proper diamond. Like you can get ones for less that are like gigantic, but they, they don't sparkle the way that an if does so if i'd like if i'm gonna get scammed then i'm gonna get scammed

properly i also didn't want something that was obviously very valuable i wanted it to seem like a poor person diamond to someone who doesn't know anything about rocks. Because the last thing I want is her getting like held up somewhere or something and her, you know, in a panic not being able to get it off or something. And it's seeming like extremely valuable, like worth cutting a handoff for like it was, there was a very strategic decision made there. And to be clear, it wasn't crazy expensive,

no matter what it was going to be at my budget, it was not going to be worth cutting someone's hand off for, but I didn't want it to look like it was. You can get big diamonds that are just trash tier stones, especially back then when the lab created ones hadn't really taken off yet. Like nowadays, it's kind of hard to tell if a diamond is worth something or not because it's all arbitrary anyway. But, but back then, like, yeah, you could get giant trash tier stones that might look to someone who has no, I like, you know, I'm not looking at them through a fricking thing. Um, and they might think it's worth taking a life over, but actually it's not worth anything.

And so I would rather her actually have a smaller stone. Yeah. So that was, that was my rationale behind the ring awesome answer uh another wedding or marriage question from brian how long we've been married and what's your take on marriage is it something to wait on for a certain amount of time or is it worth just diving in at 200 miles an hour uh well that second part is I come from a broken home. And one of the things that I one of the goals that I set out for myself, it's not a goal. It's a requirement.

In my adult life, I will not break my family. It's that simple. I will not accept my family becoming broken. So Yvonne and I were together for I think six years before we got married and we lived together for a full year before formally tying the knot. And the reason that we did so was because I needed to be darn good and sure because there was there was no taking it back for me. taking it back for me. Yeah. So no, it is not something to

dive into 200 miles an hour. That would be bad. Or maybe not bad. Maybe great. But it's not for me. From Ebby, will LTT store ever stock cargo pants? Yeah, we're working on it.

What about jorts? That's another popular request. Jorts? What the heck are jorts? Jeans shorts. Oh, jean shorts? Not right now. He's saying there's a chance, boys.

Yeah. I'm not saying no. I'm just saying not now. Dude, plaid shirts and jorts? Let's go. We are working on more colors of the flannel plaid, or plaid flannel or whatever order that goes in that's cool uh from blake hey linus and luke what's a skill or hobby you wish you had

more time to work on i've been doing woodworking oh electronics for sure i wish i was like i i wish i like really understood pcb like design man i'd be super into that i wish i was better at flying rc aircraft those are probably the big ones i i'm like i'm super into those but i don't have the time for them electronics would be my number one but not to take exactly what you said um i would i would put out blacksmithing i've wanted to get into blacksmithing for a very very long time but like it's really expensive and you need space i had a friend in high school whose mom was super into it's amazing the kind of stuff you can make like a hunk of iron and a hammer yeah and i feel like the i mean we were talking about this

earlier right i think i feel like it would be very would make my brain happy i've just always kind of thought that about just would you handle it i've been pretty worried about that uh which is one of the reasons why i i invited you to go to a blacksmithing course i'm super down still and the reason why i haven't brought up that topic again is because i'm waiting for a shoulder the bowling alley was actually almost a test for me i started with my right arm and then i think it was like three throws throws in i felt it like it didn't hurt yeah but i you know you can feel the like the warnings and i was like okay nope we're going to left arm and we're not doing blacksmithing yet uh but it's it's getting a lot better the the situation is improving so yeah uh daniel asks

oh sorry union grievance you're just excited yeah i just want to go home all right final question from daniel what was the hardest part about leaving the old house and what was the easiest hardest part honestly um i think is the every year since our kids were born we don't have a ton of family traditions but we do have this one we mark the door frames with their height and we're gonna to, I don't know, it's not going to feel authentic to, you know, measure them all and like go mark them on the new doors or something.

So I'm going to miss that, you know, decade old writing when we go and we look at their growth charts. And have you thought about taking, like having one of your doors? Cause it's the frame i have considered ripping the door frames off and putting them in the new house we're not going to do that okay yeah but yes i did think about it fair enough yeah that just felt a little too stupid

someone said alex steel on youtube for blacksmithing content yeah he's awesome i watch a bunch of other people as well i'm i i like the creators i would just like to i've never like with sports back in the day i played every sport under the sun very enthusiastically sometimes on like a provincial level i was very very into sports i didn't really watch sports and i'm like that with like basically everything i play a lot of games i don't watch streams yeah i would like to do blacksmithing and not watch blacksmithing content yeah but i can't do blacksmithing so i watch blacksmithing content oh my god everyone's like no you need to take the doorframe with you like no no no you're not doing that uh yes we're still live foster um

also by the way guys thank you very much for your support i knew that there was a lot of pent-up demand for constellations i didn't think it was this much i hope we have that many blue aqua blanks um i want yeah i want i want one too don't buy it you know i'll i mean you go for it i'll get one eventually whatever well no you won't we're not printing v1 again oh that's the whole thing is like this is the last maybe i maybe i created too much fomo because if we sell if we sell all of the um blanks we're not going to be able to do any other blue aqua stuff so guys last chance uh actually hold on a second just give me what's v2 are sure this is, we can never print it again? Are you sure?

And we can, but then I would be a big liar. So that's pretty tough. Actually, we are going to bring back one shirt that I said we'd never reprint. So we can do that to this one too. I really want to. Nick, sorry to bug you.

Do we have enough blanks for the constellation print? Have you looked at how many have been ordered during the show? More. Well, I wouldn't describe it as a few hundred, no. Oh, there's limits. Oh, good. Okay. Alright. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we're not... Yeah, we're still live. What time is it? What year is it? It's Jumanji. It's Jumanji. Okay. Yeah, I gotta go then. Okay, bye. Okay.

the particular size and sleeve style that you want is still up on the site and doesn't it doesn't say out of stock as long as you can add it to cart then we do have stock of that particular one so you guys can go ahead and get your orders in but yeah we're gonna leave this up for i don't know a few days or something like that maybe for a week so go check it out um oh the one that we are going to bring back is the one from pc or no pc oh i get so many compliments on that shirt and we only we didn't really communicate very well so maybe we could bring it back do one run of it or something like that yeah yeah yeah that would be that would be good but no i don't i don't know that we will actually i don't know that we will actually do another reprint of Constellations. I want to get a long sleeve, though.

I literally just messaged Nick and was like, yo. Yeah, I really want the long sleeve. I want a long sleeve. We haven't had, other than the Short Circuit one, which I was not entirely happy with. To be clear, it's still a brand name blank that we printed on. It was fine. But we've never had like a really great long sleeve tech link this one we do tech link tech linked no short circuit we didn't have

a long sleeve for tech linked i don't think i thought it was gray is that a short circuit oh my bad okay okay don't worry bigger water bottles are coming jace lucas i think it's time for us to leave though goodbye okay bye what a show sorry it's very late um bell log your hours hey of course did you make it all the way to double time today uh if i say yes does that mean yes well it's whatever it's whatever it legally is I don't decide what it is did you make it to double time though when you start today 11 so I don't think so oh okay

alright okay nice okay I think we're done oh I can't reach the thing to turn it off it's far away