The WAN Show - The KFC Console Ripped Off our Idea!! - WAN Show December 25, 2020

Episode Date: December 28, 2020

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It's just, it's doing things. Yeah, it's trying. It's going full effort. Oh, what is that even happening right now oh i'm flying blind i'm flying blind boys and we're live welcome to the land show merry ho ho ho day everyone it's christmas but that will not stop me or luke from coming to you live from canada canada north america yep that's where we're from all right we've got all kinds of great topics for you today which is wow it's a good thing that santa already visited this morning because i've got a whole year left to make up for that whopper no one's been in the office this week so um we didn't even have real tech linked so i couldn't even just go back to riley's tech linked notes and steal topics and and talking points so

luke and i literally you know this is the most classic wan show we've done in probably years yeah because you and i actually did the doc yeah luke and i actually did the doc for the wan show and i say that really loosely because luke did like jack at all i did a topic i did one topic luke and i did the talk for the wan show for the first time in probably years because everyone was out of the office all week so uh here we go ladies and gentlemen we've got the kfc gaming console ripped off our idea which is especially stupid because it's not even a good idea i made stencils with my 3d printer so we're gonna do some story time about that what do you got 30 60 12 gig and 30 80 ti 20 gig are coming and uh tesla is offering fsd

subscription service because we all knew they would of course they would let's go ahead and roll that intro we both have like christmas dinners to get to so we're gonna have to go ahead and uh we're gonna have to get through the show we're gonna have to get through the show today there you go there's that intro i gotta close the door my daughter just ran in here like what even is the purpose of closed doors at a certain point you know someone got banned off twitch because they they left the room to like grab a snack or something and their child walked into the room um clothes and everything oh really unattended children are not allowed on stream so they got a full full ban for it what like forever as far as i know yeah but i could

be very wrong about that point surely they were just like some nobody i'm trying to remember like one of the twit i need i need an ltd store to this is terrible this is getting worse yeah that'd be nice yeah i'm trying to think of one of the like twitch streamers that notoriously can't get banned for anything in spite of like being mean to animals i i i i'm so sorry you know the funniest thing is that because i tend to pay attention to internet entertainment news my google feed is often full of articles about uh you know dr disrespect pokey main and all i probably like said that wrong uh doctor like okay awesome all these like uh twitch personalities and other than the top like you know i'm trying to think like how many i could actually name off the top of my head

i could probably yeah i could probably name like six of which the only reason I remember like half of them is because I've met them at some point or another. And like, they seemed pretty cool. But yeah, I don't know. I just, I'm always reading it. It seems like the single most dramatic community of all time. Like there's one guy releasing like all these like sexed messages and like hey we had a relationship and then and then there's this other one that's like

uh no actually we didn't the context wasn't there and then other people are like actually there was i don't i don't even know i can't even keep track of it it's just like wow i thought i thought you're supposed i thought you played video games i thought that was what you did i think one of the things is because twitch i i i'm sure a lot of it is real but i think one of the things is because twitch is so bad for discoverability um they have the same type of thing that youtube does where they make drama between each other and that promotes each other's channels and gets them actually going um but uh yeah i think there's a little bit more real drama on twitch for one and i think the fake drama is a little bit more intense i would i would say that one moment please yeah hey guys i'm closing the door for a reason. Please stop opening it.

Crying out loud. The chat has informed me, by the way, that the lady that got banned for her child being alone on her stream was unbanned out of Twitter outrage. You're doing it. I was fixing my phone. This was a whole drama thing last week. Okay, guys, I even sent this to Luke.

Okay, this is how it went down last week. See, this is my face. This is my face when the chin is behind the banner. Okay, I fixed it. I moved the banner down. Then we got... Isn't there going to be the swear word? Then we got this freaking guy.

I don't know. Does that matter? Are you not allowed to swear on Twitch? In a picture guy i don't know is that does that matter are you not allowed to swear on twitch in a picture i don't know hold on a second where's my where's my stupid there we go look at this look at this he can't stop ladies and gentlemen he cannot stop he cannot not do it that's fine that that was it i was just i was waiting for my opportunity you sure did not make me wait long i was temporary i was fixing my sweater come on all right why don't we jump into our first topic temporary yes is my outrage at the kfc gaming console me too right okay so let's let's have a look at this thing let's have a look at this thing okay luke i know that this is very unusual but i'm gonna do all the talking and i'd like you to say nothing for a

little bit here okay okay okay hold on a second hold on here it is introducing the chocolate kfc console and the hot dog flavored warming drawer okay no for serious though, this is the KFC console. Power your hunger. Forged in the fires of the KFC ovens. Unbelievable. I mean, who could ever think of something like this? It's complete and utter madness. Hold on a second though. I'm not done. I'm not done yet. Okay, hold on, hold on. Built and designed by Cooler Master. It's the opposite of cooling, by the way. It's a chicken warming drawer with only the best Nook 9 Extreme Compute Element. Oh, yeah. And I don't know, a graphics card.

ASUS-powered graphics that runs buttery smooth. ASUS, ASUS, ASUS. We don't know exactly what that is, but that's okay. We are down everywhere. We got Fire Cuda. We is, but that's okay. We are down everywhere. We got Fire Cuda. We should be... No, we should be back up. Yep, should be back up.

Okay, we don't know exactly what that is, but that's a temporary issue, hopefully. All right, so back to the KFC console, because this is very important. We need to not get distracted here. VR ready. Ray tracing, which means it's got to be at least an rtx 2060 i guess oh maybe it's like a not announced yet thing no no hold on luke hold on luke we're

getting to it we're getting to it okay 4k tv gaming 240 fps with up to 240 hertz output and you gotta power your hunger okay kfc gaming cooler master asus and seagate oh yeah also you know cooler master again because they like made the case or whatever all right so luke let me ask you something let me ask you an honest question very honest question here does that remind you of anything i i feel like you guys should do it i think you guys should one-up them just just hold on a second the luke i i have to know honestly does that remind you of anything yes okay you gotta tell me yeah the the pizza heater they they did an internal warming chamber uh versus the like just top mounted thing that i did um that's that's probably cool. I guess I just, I can't believe

they might be doing it. Um, it doesn't, I mean, there definitely is not enough information to make me think that it's like for sure happening. There's no way to preorder it. Uh, there's, there's literally no offboarding links at all other than just the landing page. So I have no idea. It would be a weird, it would be quite the out-season April Fool's joke. But it also looks extremely achievable. Yeah. Because they're doing nothing.

Exactly. KFC has nothing to do with this at all. KFC has memed it up. And you can't underestimate. Don't under kfc has memed it up and you can't underestimate don't undersell the importance of memeing it up because honestly speaking i mean it's hilarious because if they actually go through with this which it looks like they will like in the in the early days of this meme nonsense i don't believe it was real i think what happened was kfc it worked too well kfc actually memed something into existence okay i suspect they got approached by intel because

otherwise there's no other reason on god's green earth that you would use a nook at computer extreme element for anything that you're designing a case around because it's it's small but other than that it's like very expensive for the performance that you're getting extremely like this this thing is going to be very costly yeah we've got rocket lake rocket lake cpus around the corner which presumably this thing will not be using. I could be wrong. Maybe there'll be Rocket Lake. There probably can be. It's specifically specced out as a NUC 9.

Exactly. Exactly. Probably not. So Intel approached KFC. That's what I think happened. Brought in Cooler Master because Intel partners with Cooler Master on all kinds of crazy stuff,

whether it's production of know, production of like their their their subzero thermoelectric Peltier cooler thing or whatever else they work with Cooler Master and all kinds of stuff. They approach Cooler Master. They were like, hey, you guys make cases. Hey, we make this weird thing that needs to fit in a case. Oh, by the way, the exhaust heat needs to keep your chicken warm. And we watched this video on Linus Tech Tips a number of years back that gave us the perfect idea for how to do this. Welcome to the prototype build. Totally original idea. Okay. One Mr. Luc Lafreniere here with one of the worst like-dislike ratio videos to ever be uploaded on the channel. Right up there with how to hide your b****.

And what are some of the other balls? That actually looks like the like-dislike has improved over time. I think it probably has. I think it was worse than that. I think it was worse than that. It was a lot closer to like one-to-one at one point. Okay, can you talk us through what exactly we're looking at here, Mr. Lafreniere? that i think it was worse than that it was a lot closer to like one to one at one point okay can you talk us through what exactly we're looking at here mr lefreniere like what is this this was a

budget of of nothing other than buying a pizza um and uh like i think it was a side panel that i pulled from an old scrapyard wars computer plus a test test bench um and some cardboard and we made a a panel that would actually like keep warm uh maybe it shouldn't yeah pizza warming i think it originally was called a pizza heating thing and people got upset about that we so we called it warming um but it actually did succeed in keeping the pizza at least somewhat warm well okay you're forgetting a critical part of the story and the thing that i was so mad about because okay so this video actually generated a little bit of tension between me and luke because i thought i was throwing him a total softball on a friday afternoon to like hit his video quota for the week. Okay. And I thought I

was like doing him a solid because this was something that I had planned to just kind of shard out in an afternoon. Because I was just like, yeah, it's so funny. You've got like this heat from the computer. Why not do something useful with it? Oh, yeah, you could keep your pizza warm so luke goes and just totally i don't know what happened i don't know how this miscommunication took place but luke hears or maybe i didn't say it i don't know i'm not pointing fingers i just the concept was pizza uh like temperature maintenance mechanism and luke manages to turn it into pizza like heating so he gets that he orders the pizza in the morning and then tries to reheat it with the computer and i was like no luke that's why i asked you to order two pizzas so you would put one of them on the computer and you would put one of them on the counter and see which one cooled down slower, which it would have worked for way better.

It's not supposed to be an oven. This is not easy bake afternoon. This is a different kind of baked afternoon. If you really think that we're going gonna heat the pizza with the freaking computer someone in flow play chat was like this is why luke doesn't work for lmg anymore you know what maybe maybe um oh yeah i don't know it i there there was these like additional concepts we came up with of course we got signed out of the doc come on of course um there was these additional concepts we came up with too i don't know if you remember this, but we were theorizing using like hair dryer coils.

Do you remember that? Yes, I do. Yeah, because we wanted it to like be real warm. Yeah. And like, yeah, we had actually taken the concept pretty far, but to do it genuinely properly, which it does not look like they're doing to be clear, but to do it genuinely properly, which it does not look like they're doing to be clear. Um, but to do it genuinely properly, it would take, it would take

a little bit, but it's definitely possible. Now I've ripped on Luke a fair bit here on this topic here, but can I just play, can I play Luke's advocate for a second here and talk about how long I actually gave Luke to put together his concept for this and execute it. So based on that it was shot on a Friday, that means we had Wanshow. I know that he didn't start it until the afternoon because I remember freaking out because the pizza was there like around lunchtime. And I was like, why is the pizza here already? And Luke's like, well, it's lunchtime and i was like why is the pizza here already and luke's like well

it's lunchtime i kind of assumed we'd like eat the pizza after we warm it up or something and i'm like okay that's very frugal and uh efficient of you okay good job but also you haven't actually built the computer yet you know what it doesn't matter okay we operated under much much tighter fiscal constraints back then so i think luke actually even offered to reorder pizza for like what i had intended the concept to be which was maintaining the temperature but i was like what would that be another 50 no we better not do that so i gave luke like minutes of notice on this and then like two hours to fully build this concept and, and shoot a video about it.

So in fairness, I still probably could have done a bit better. I think if it was, if it was more of a keep warm concept, I think it probably would have had less negative backlash, but yeah, I always kind of wanted to do a followup, but it was i mean

it was one of the most hated videos ever it was one of the most hated videos ever i still think that might actually be a good idea to do a follow-up on because like you could title it like our most hated video ever part two and people would be all over that. But I just, back when it was just Linus and I, like there isn't, there was very rarely enough time to do like big grandiose projects. And to do that properly, it would have been a big grandiose project. It would have actually taken some work.

And neither Luke nor I has a ton of, how do we say, metal fabrication know-how. You don't like my cuts in the side panel. What are you talking about? You know what, Luke? They're beautiful. You know,

I'm gonna be honest with you. We actually have a part two of this concept planned that I think is, has like viral potential instead of trying to do anything with food though. Now that KFC has beaten that horse to death. We are actually going to build a water-cooled machine that has a passive passively cooled radiator that is a cat bed oh oh that's smart because everyone complains about them walking on your keyboard but it's probably because your keyboard's warm and they also just like to be they like to be in the middle of whatever you're doing like they always laundry or

like warm bed warm bed might distract them so we're gonna do the cat warming pc uh stay tuned for that one it's gonna be awesome and we've got enough people at the office that own cats now that it's gonna be one of those things where we can actually test it in like a variety of uh a variety of uh people's homes and see if it actually works i suspect my cat's going to be super into it but it's kind of cheating because dash will literally go sit on any new thing that is in any room of our house i i brought out a couple of garbage bags to uh to sort cardboard and then like plastic waste from opening christmas presents this morning she immediately went into one of them and then went into the other one and came out and was like okay they're safe i have inspected yeah the family the family can rest

assured that these garbage bags are fully prepared for their garbage. Thank you, Dash. That's fantastic. Oh, we've got a question from John McBain. McBain. I've been rewatching early seasons of The Simpsons. And it's like, I never realized as a kid how political the show is. It's like Ronald Reagan is in there constantly and stuff like that and only as an adult just like when i was a kid i just didn't really place the connection especially because it was american politics stuff yeah um so i just thought they were just characters you know like i didn't i didn't really necessarily clue in that they were they were depictions of real people

um john mcpain asks why no when show vaude on flow plane uh because reasons it's been a low priority basically yeah yeah all right cool moving on to oh yeah what else is there to say about kfc ripping off our idea oh yeah we do have the spec it's a core i9 99 adhk it's not even 10th gen no oh nine see oh yeah nook nine just means core i9 based though i think i don't think nook nine means ninth gen i i don't know okay i'm not sure yeah um it it we don't you don't know how much like ram memory it's actually going to come with because the compute element is not populated with memory and the KFC spec page says nothing. The graphics card has no details.

It just says it's from Asus. There's nothing else at all. No, no. It also says it's battery smooth. And up to 240 fps in all games i love how they capitalize all games is this one of those things where like the marketing for it is so blatantly bullspit that you know if someone comes back and says hey this is false advertising kfc can actually with a straight face say well you couldn't have possibly believed this was real so it's kind of on you because i think that's a thing

isn't it i think so like uh well because red bull but you know red bull had to pull their red bull gives you wings ah so maybe it's not maybe it doesn't matter how obvious it is that it's not true i don't know some uh some brands have gotten away with that so i i don't know um probably up to i have no idea how that works yeah i'm not not a clue hardly a legal expert can i can you believe over 10 000 people are watching this on christmas don't you people have anything better to do meanwhile i'm here too uh let's get let's move on to our next topic okay what's going on okay so for the longest time um i have actually strung my own rackets and it's one of those things that like doesn't make a ton of sense um i spent like i don't know some ungodly amount of money on a stringing machine because I was like,

nah, dog, I don't want like the like manual one. I want like the electronic one. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna like string my rackets all the time. And I'm gonna do it so often that it's gonna pay for itself. And I'll even like, I'll do it for like buddies, and I'll charge them 10 bucks or whatever. And like, come on, get real. Anyway, the point is I spent like thousands of dollars on a racket string machine that I have probably used a hundred times, maybe at a grand total savings of about 12 to $13 a pop. That's about how much money I saved doing it myself.

But one of the benefits of doing it myself is that instead of having like the brand logo you know yonex or leaning or whatever uh put onto the strings with like the the marker i can print my own stencils and get my own marker ink and then i can put whatever i want so lots of people have like super cool things that they stencil onto their rackets, like angry pandas or whatever. So I got it in my head that I was like, oh, I have an Ultimaker 2 Extended that sits in my side room that I almost never use

except to print random toys off Thingiverse for my kids. I am going to make my own racket stencils so here's my first attempt i let my daughter pick which one she wanted i actually i really should have probably grabbed her racket to show you guys the end result that would have been a sensible thing to do whatever the point is it put black ink on the strings it worked um and she decided she wanted a four leaf clover that's what that is if that's what you're trying to figure out right now no is is that paper uh no it's filament okay yeah okay yeah so anyway um i am not a 3d printing expert i have people like jake and colin and alex to do that for me so usually when i want something 3d printed, I'm like, hey, one of you, can you design

a thing and print it for me? Or Matthias, there's literally a half a dozen people on staff that can just kind of conjure anything I could possibly need and 3D print it for me. So I've gone full CEO mode on 3D printing and gone, you know what? It's actually cheaper for me to hire someone to do this for me than it is for me to learn to do it myself. So this is one of the first times that I have ever actually tried to create something from scratch to 3D print. So I found this software called MatterControl 2.0, and it specifically has a function called, what is it called? Image Converter.

So you can just find any image you want and it will convert it into a 3D model. And then all you have to do is adjust the depth, which the guide that I found said that the field was in millimeters. Turns out they have since updated the software. It is now in centimeters. That was a close call. We almost printed a one centimeter thick stencil with completely solid fill because I didn't want it to, you know, do anything other than complete fill because so that would have been like a pound of filament or whatever at this size. Anyway, so they've converted that to centimeters. We got that one figured out. But the real problem for me was not that I'm a moron as far as 3D printing goes, but actually that I'm a Photoshop moron. So it has a function where you're supposed to just bring

in any black and white image. This did not start out black and white, by the way, it started out green. So I had to do a whole thing in paint.net where you convert to black and white with like some tolerance or whatever. Regular paint wouldn't do it don't you hate that when something looks solid like a solid color and you get the paint bucket and it fills in like 30 of it oh no that was an ever so ever slightly different shade of green so i had to figure out how to do that in paint.net then i ran into the real problem because all of that stuff that I've like either pretty much done before or was very straightforward. In paint.net, okay, I had this. Let me just bring up my thing here.

Okay, in paint.net, I had this. And you would think that this isn't a problem. So this right here is a transparency layer because I didn't want the stencil to be a rectangle, right? Why would I want to print out a whole bunch more filament here if the racket head is an oval and my graphic is an oval shape? I could not, for the love of all that is good, figure out how to get rid of it. So in paint.net, if I save as PNG, theoretically this image

you would think would be an oval shaped image. It's not. And when you search for how to get rid of checkerboard background, you end up... it's one of those things where Google is too good at knowing what the problem probably is and doesn't give you anything but the most obvious answer. So every single help thread I found was people who don't understand what a transparency layer is. And they were trying to get rid of it because they thought it was part of their image. And I was like, no, I want an oval shaped canvas. That's what I actually want. And as far as I could tell, there was no way to do it. So my workaround ended up being to invert the colors. I think what I ended up doing was making that

actually black and then like double inverting or rather not inverting the colors in MatterControl 2.0 so that this outer rectangle which i never did get rid of was just this it was blank so that is my long and boring story about 3d printing stencils and after all this frustration i'm finally printing the thing and my wife walks in and she goes why didn't you just do that on the cry cut is that is that an acrylic cutter? It's like kind of an everything cutter. It's like a little CNC cutter thing for like craft clubs.

All I was thinking about doing that whole story, and I had seen the spoiler of Yvonne walking in and asking why he didn't just use the cry cut, but all I was thinking of that whole time is like man there must have been like a plethora of ways to do this better like a way better tool for this job yeah like using a 3d printer for this is wild and the thing about the cry cut too is that it comes with like housewife grade software. Like it's like kid friendly software. So it really is designed to make it so that just about anyone can steal an image on Google image search and turn it into anything they want.

And meanwhile, I'm figuring out how to 3D print it. But you know what, Luke? You know what? No, no, f*** you. Because this is so durable okay this is made of high quality pla filament okay and i might have printed it the wrong size but darn it it's gonna last forever nice so the point of the story is guys hit me up on twitter at actually don't use the handle that's

on this thing use that linus g sebastian and i want you guys to send me what i should put on my racket because after all of this i i put the four leaf clover on my daughter's racket and it worked great it worked exactly as i would have expected it to but i could not decide what to put on mine so guys help me out here help me out bra that sexist not gonna lie okay you're right you're right the cry cut in its hold on a second what is the what is the color scheme of this thing the cry cut machine in its soft baby blue color scheme is definitely marketed to manly men i'm sorry i did i did it wrong i i said a bad i said a bad wrong think wrong speak thing house person house person it could have been any kind of house person any kind of house person okay nick nick's messaging me already look nick you gotta stop pinging the entire chat with team's messages i'm i'm muting your notifications see you later um okay the reason i called it that

is because that's the only person in this house who uses it. Okay. And only, only when she's not at work and not busy. So there you go. All right. What else do we have? We've got, ooh, sponsors. The show is brought to you today by, oh Lordy, I do not have sponsor talking points. Okay.

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At this point, I feel like legally, no. Right? But probably yes, if that makes any sense. I think he's like not allowed anymore. I don't remember. I know there was something going on with him and his tweets and what they were allowed to be and what they weren't allowed to be a while ago. I don't remember what the ending of all of that was. But he has said early next year, which at this point could be like days from now,

there will be fully self-driving subscription services available instead of one large purchase. So if you lease your car, you could subscribe to it instead of buy it. Also, apparently the pricing just went up by $2,000. Yeah. Wow. I mean, you know, it's one of those things where I get it. I mean, you know, it's one of those things where I get it. I understand why full self-driving is expensive because there's a ton of software development

and it's ongoing. It's not like you can, you know, this isn't Final Fantasy II. You can't just, you know, well, no, my point is you can't just like write it once. Yeah, ship it and forget about it. There's going to constantly be new edge cases that you're going to discover that like the just the the data processing and data storage

that you're going to have to maintain on an ongoing basis in order to keep learning and keep improving and keep remapping the world because the world is it's so inconvenient the world is always changing right i understand why you have to pay a mess ton of money for full self-driving capability on your car whether it's a tesla or whatever else it is in the future but that doesn't mean that i don't have to be bummed that i can't just pay for it once now for now they are still offering the option to pay for it once but what we also don't know is what that looks like in the future um you know team viewer for example you used to be able to buy just once i own a perpetual license for team viewer 12 which is why i refuse to update from TeamViewer 12 because now with TeamViewer Whatever we're on 15 or 16 or something like that. There is no option to buy it out

Right, you absolutely must subscribe to it as a service. So nothing would technically prevent Tesla from saying oh, oh, well, oh you bought full self-driving 1.0 this is full self-driving 2.0 and we're not off. it's like got it's got you know support for the rocket boosted acceleration on the roadster 2 uh so yeah in order to account for that we really had to fine-tune some things so you really need the new software nothing would also prevent them from just sunsetting the original one. And Tesla has a long and proud history of announcing programs and then sort of unexpectedly or with some warning sunsetting them, whether it's the referral program or the free supercharging or

whatever the case may be. So what this is, is Tesla telegraphing what the future is going to look like. Full self-driving, buying it outright is either going to go away if we stay on this trajectory, or it's going to get prohibitively expensive to the point where it just doesn't make sense anymore. And subscriptions are going to be a thing. But for those of you who are, you know, over my dead body, you know, subscriptions for my car that I own, I have some words of comfort for you. You know, don't worry because in the future, it won't matter that you never actually own the car you bought because by the time self-driving is actually practical to use you will not be buying a car uh because

remember guys i'm not just talking about the capability to fully self-drive that could be sooner i'm talking about full self-driving being actually put my feet up in the back seat and read a book safe have a nap like... No awareness required type of stuff. That's right. Every edge case that could possibly come up, that car is going to know what to do. And not only that, but that level of capability has been around so long that notoriously slow legislators are going to have actually created laws to allow these things to be used without you paying attention to them on public roads. By the time that happens, you will not buy a car. That's the whole idea. The fleet is just going to drive around Uber style and it'll be pay as you go,

baby. The fleet owner will pay for the subscriptions and that is the future, whether you freaking like it or not, that's coming for you because there's so many things about it that are just, I mean, governments are going to eat this up. What? Whoa, hold on a second. And businesses too. I've already seen the parking regulations here in the area where we live go way down because cities are trying to get fewer cars parking i forget what it is but in an average city there's something like seven or like nine parking stalls for every car because grocery store home work these are all places that kind of like everyone zerg rushes to all at once. And these are parking stalls that sit empty the vast, vast majority of the time.

So for cities to be able to claw back parking space, for businesses to be able to build out, for property developers to be able to build out buildings with far less parking in them and be able to justify it. I mean, there's apartment buildings in Vancouver that you can buy now that do not have a parking stall assigned to them, that you cannot get a parking stall assigned to. You are just expected to not own a car. So it's happening. And I'm sure chat, which I'm not looking at, is full of people who live in rural Utah or whatever, like they'll

pry my truck from my cold dead fingers. Yeah, of course, there's always going to be places where that's not going to be the case. But when I talk about the future, I'm not talking about the 1930s. I'm talking about the future, places where it is the same as it has been for 100 years. Yeah, it'll probably be a little slower. So it's just like when I talk about, you know, fiber to the home being the future. Yeah, it's going to take a long time in a lot of areas, but that doesn't change

that that's the direction we're going. Specialized work vehicles and stuff like that is not really what he's talking about. It's like, yeah, it's these like mass commodity usage cars. Like if you use your car essentially twice a day to go to work and to go home or to like go to your friend's house or something and to go home on the weekend, and that's basically it.

If you think about it, that asset is more or less being wasted while it's just sitting there. Yes, it loses value the more you drive it around and the more you use it and stuff like that. But if you could use it at those times, it would be more valuable. So even the potential idea, which I don't really think will be a thing, but is where you could buy a car and sign it up for a service where it goes around and drives and picks people up. Maybe that'll be a thing. Man, what's even the name of it? it goes around and drives and picks people up uh maybe that'll be a thing uh the like the the man what's even the name of it i think tesla has said that they want to allow people to uh kind of um sublet their their cars that they own into the tesla like fleet i think this is something

they've already talked about uh something else occurred to me too icbc so that's our local insurance monopoly that exists for whatever reason um icbc recently changed a lot of the way they're handling insurance to be more tied to the driver and less tied to the vehicle so that's yet another thing that is happening as the as the world shifts to owners just having their own insurance and vehicles just being like a thing that sits on the curb until you get into it and drive it somewhere. And to be clear, guys, the people who are upset about this, trust me,

it's not like I'm not with you. I wanna own my own car so that it's like right there, ready for me to use, and I don't have to deal with someone else's smelly dog or whatever that was in the back of this shared vehicle. Like, trust me, I get it. It's not that I'm against you. It's just that this is happening. I wouldn't be surprised if there was like premium, like high availability options.

Oh, for sure. Where when a vehicle was not being used, it parked itself by you. You know what I mean? And it'll get all machine learning-y and it'll know approximately what times people like to go where. And once you've got enough people using the service, it's going to...

It's kind of like anything. Like, okay, ABCs of Gaming sells anywhere from 40 to 60 units a day on LTT Store. and it's just like once you reach a certain scale you get that level of predictability like it just happens right um you guys know how much to order and when to order it that kind of stuff like everyone thinks that they're an individual snowflake, but actually there are just patterns that start to emerge once the data set gets big enough.

And that's how, you know, Facebook and Google have gone and made a fortune, right? So yeah, it's happening. And you know what? They can pry my vault from my cold dead fingers and they might just do such a thing but i doubt that i doubt that my youngest child will see any purpose in learning to drive like at your youngest but but not 12 years 12 years i suspect my son for a variety of reasons

like aside from just like uh wanting to learn it? I think he would just want to regardless. Yeah, yeah, okay. It's kind of a control freak. And well, like, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Like I want to operate my vehicle. I am quite certain that I can operate my own vehicle

in a way that is safer than an AI will be able to operate it for a very, very long time. Because I do things that are not technically legal but improve my safety on the road so perfect example okay if it's if it's raining instead of staying in exactly the middle of my lane what i will do is i will go and i will just ride i'll ride the dotted line because i know that there are there are kind of divots in the road where the tires travel the most where water tends to pool and

it's more likely to hydroplane that's put a bird on it you know um so the way that so if nobody else is on the road the way that i would drive is absolutely illegal, but from a not crashing into a barrier standpoint is safer. And in much the same way, I will often maintain like crazy buffer zones around vehicles that I, you know, think might not be able to see me very well, or that I have been observing for some time and I find their behavior to be erratic.'m a very defensive driver so for a long time it will be even if a self-driving car is safer than the average driver it will probably be safer for me to operate my vehicle than to allow a robot to do it however compared to me in a distracted state like if i'm hungry and i need to eat something well i could probably

i could probably let fsd take over and i think you're gonna run into some issues there with with people that want to think that uh but probably shouldn't oh man i know so many of those and like um yeah luca what are you saying by the way nothing i uh i just i i think yeah it's it's it's it's gonna be interesting because the people aren't going to want to admit that they should just let a car drive itself oh yeah whereas like i i think in a lot of cases it it just should because of that, that like right now, not good enough, whatever. But once it is good enough, the permanent awareness is going to be so aware as the end goal of this thing, or at least even close to the approved by government goal of this thing is probably going to be incredible.

Easton Lovely says, Linus is describing how motorcycle riders have to drive all the time. Yes. They're good habits. I am. I do ride. And they're good habits. If you drive like you ride, the likelihood of getting into an accident. I mean, it depends how you ride, of course. But if you ride, if you ride safely, if you ride defensively, then it's it's good habits for always just maintaining a lot of space around you. I mean, the motorcycle is a fun one. Like my, my wife doesn't like it, obviously that I ride the bike and my whole defense to her is like, look, yes, if I get in an accident on the

bike, it's worse. I'm a pancake basically. But the odds of me getting in an accident on the bike, I would argue are significantly lower. I have so much, like I have had times where I was on the bike. Someone went and changed lanes without freaking looking at all and because i was on the bike not only did i have an extra like meter or two of space before they would make contact with me that i was able to use to get out of the way but because of my ability to instantly accelerate and not to mention break faster than a cage yeah i was able to get out of the way i would have gotten into an accident in that case at no fault of my own if i had been in my car i've also noticed when driving around um because i have not ever been on a bike um but i've

noticed when driving around that in in like annoying situations the the the the best people to kind of like you know that like no contact befriend if you know what i mean like you don't you don't necessarily even see each other but like yeah you're clearly not being jerks to each other is usually the people on bikes because they are usually paying more attention and especially in like traffic jam style situations people in cars like almost so many features in modern cars are like, okay, you don't hear it anymore. Okay. You don't feel the road anymore. Okay.

Like drives itself progressively more and more. Like it's, there's all these things that are going to lull you into less and less awareness because you don't have to pay as much attention. And then bikes are like, just not that at all. Meandres orbitalis uh figures there's a little bit of natural selection at work motorcycle riders are generally better because the bad ones don't stick around after making mistakes yeah okay um sure yep that's fair enough um is there anything else we oh we should probably do the isps no longer allowed to charge rental fees bit yeah sure this is posted by spartaman64 over on the forum and it

kind of tickled both me and luke uh broadband and tv providers will finally be required to stop charging rental fees for equipment that customers own thanks to a new a new US law that takes effect on Sunday. How did this take so long? I mean, to be clear, like, bravo. It's about time some pro-consumer legislation passed. The change is good news for customers of Frontier Communications, which has insisted on charging $10 rental fees to customers who use their own routers. As we wrote, sorry, who's the article from?

Ars Technica. As Ars Technica wrote in July 2019, Frontier claimed it charged the fee to cover higher support costs for customers who use their own equipment. Okay, fair enough. Except that Frontier also said at the time that it cannot support or repair non-Frontier equipment, contradicting its own justification for charging the fee. Ridiculous. Hilarious. About time.

There's like no way in hell that it costs them $10 a month in customer support per person to support all the people with their own routers. I would just wager a guess that the people with their own routers are probably costing them less in support, to be honest. Probably. Probably. wager a guess that the people with their own routers are probably costing them less in support to be honest probably probably um last topic intel is rumored to be taking back the gaming crown an 11 900 engineering sample with a wimpy 1.8 gigahertz base clock uh this is a Core i9, but don't worry a 3.8 gigahertz all core boost and maximum boost of 4.4 was spotted

Benchmarked the original source here is from WCCF tech and Tom's hardware and it looks like it could end up based on Cinebench and ashes of the singularity So there's not these are not perfect benchmarks, but they're indicators looks like it could be as much as 20 faster than comet lake clock for clock which would put the gaming crown firmly back in intel's hands they're rumored to come out in q1 2021 so uh hey maybe uh maybe intel is hoping to, you know, have a better year in 2021 than the just absolute pounding they took in 2020. It's 14 nanometers still, though, for those who are wondering.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Also, LTT Store, Boxing Day sale. Oh, yeah. We have a Boxing Day promotion on LTT Store. $5 off everything store wide ends tomorrow at midnight pacific time oh my what is that noise is that you that's my bird sorry oh what's up okay you know what luke i don't think you've ever formally introduced the bird can we can we

formally introduce the bird this is ta Taquito. Oh, geez. He apparently wanted to be there instead. His name is Taquito. He really enjoys talking. Usually when we do the WAN show, he just sits there and he pulls one foot up and he just stands on one foot because that's usually like he's happy and comfortable. Hi. He likes

my nose too, for whatever reason. It's a glorious nose. but every once in a while he wants to be engaged in the conversation so he'll come over and uh as you saw i guess land on my head that's that's a bit of a new one he only started doing that yesterday uh but he'll start talking too and he really likes um the the like wire that's next to my microphone so he'll stand on that but that means he's standing on my microphone hi there you go he's standing on my microphone um you can see he perches on a single finger but yeah he stands on my microphone and talks which sometimes means if i'm like

uh having a conversation with someone you can you can Mr. Takedo. I'm talking about you. I noticed he got canceled out pretty good. What are you using? SM7B. No, no. I mean, like it seemed like it was canceled. Do you have any like background noise cancellation on? Oh, nope. Just a Discord by default has a,

what is it exactly called? Input sensitivity. Oh yeah, yeah. yeah not bad not bad at all actually yeah it works okay all right so i guess i should do a handful of super chats but i think luke has a hard out three minutes ago so i don't want to get you in trouble with plenty time okay all right see you later probably good bye say. He's just leaning towards my face. He doesn't want to say bye at all. Bye. All right. Ilya asks, when comes the big shave? I don't know. Haven't actually decided if I'm doing it or not. Oh, oh, there we go. Cool. Robert B says, Merry Christmas. Hey, thank you. Brandon says, hey, did you ever get used to YouTube music since Google Music is gone? No, I kind of,

I think I might just have to switch to Spotify. They still haven't figured out how to get kids accounts working because YouTube doesn't allow kids under 13 to use it. So YouTube music has that same limitation, even though my kids, they offer a family plan and kids can't use it which is super stupid so i'm just gonna have to switch over to spotify i think my other issue is that you can't stream straight to sonos speakers through the app you could with google play music i suspect that will just never get fixed because of the ongoing legal dispute between sonos and google so i'm just gonna have to like manually port over my playlists i guess unless there's a faster way uh day woe asks why does your hair look greasy because it's super greasy i haven't gone to work all week so i

have not washed my hair in like four days so that's what it looks like so if you were wondering if i normally wash my hair the answer is yes uh sweet man ok glad to hear that happy to help mike adam says happy Christmas, guys, managing to catch you live today from the UK, loving the show, hey, thank you very much, Finn says, first time watching live, by the way, could LTT Store be a distributor for Vessi's shoes, since they don't ship them worldwide, I mean, we haven't really explored the idea of just selling, like, other people's stuff. I guess we could think about it. But I can tell you now from like a business standpoint, we are more interested in

selling our own stuff just because, you know, it doesn't pollute the messaging, right? Like, where do you go to buy LTT stuff? LTTstore.com. Where do you go to buy other stuff? Some other place. Like like I don't know I'll think about it though. Johnny SM says great to see you too live finally. What do you mean finally? We go live every week. Why must you have some air conditioning in your home server room? I do not are they hot and loud They're like loudish, but not hot because what I do have is a fan in there I made a video about that a while back. And then with the new installation that we blew into the attic space,

actually there's no exhaust for it, but I can open up a door into my other attic space in the summer. In the winter, the cold air coming in is so cold that it's like fine. James says, hate sending super chats because hate supporting YouTube, but just wanted to say thank you for the Christmas stream.

You guys rock. Thanks, James B. Thomas Dye says, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to you too, Thomas Dye. Mike Adams says, please do not disturb on Teams. It mutes all notifications and then it doesn't make me think my work's trying to get a hold of me. Okay, I did mute it.

I muted it with the volume mixer, but that's another way to do it. Robert Mail says, with your US stimulus, you can buy one of each item on LTT store, single style and size, and still have money left over. Hey over hey thanks robert that's a great tech tip right there cool man says uh hi bro and that's pretty much it cole sup cole says merry christmas haven't caught you guys live in a long time yeah how's that tj07 treating you this guy drove all the way like hours to come by, like, my old... Was it a TJ07? I think so. I think it was an old TJ07 case or something like that.

Was it a TJ07 or was it, like, some server case? I don't remember. Slushy says, tips on being a tech YouTuber. Well, um... Step one, be a YouTuber. Step two, focus on tech. Oh yeah. Uh, I don't know. I mean, ah, it's really hard to say. It's, it's hard to say, what do you say? People ask me that kind of stuff all the time. And I just never really know how to respond to it because the answer is that I can't give you the answer. If I could give you the answer, then, um,

like it, it wouldn't be the answer if that kind of makes sense, because part of breaking out is finding your own style and your own voice. And I can't tell you what that is. So that's the best tip I can give is that you shouldn't follow anyone else. You should figure out your own path. Doug says, I ordered a desk pad two weeks ago. I can't get any updates on the order. You got a message support and they have been out all week because our whole staff has been out all week for Christmas, but they'll be back in on Monday. And that's not a mistake. I know it's the first, but we moved the stat to this week so we are back in office on monday or wait no friday it's friday that's the first right whatever it doesn't matter the point

is we're back in in monday we're in all week next week um we'd love to do something on solar um king of soldiers and if we did we would definitely make a video about it wireless valve index is that a thing now do they have an adapter i hope so is oh is it on the way a patent says yes from july uh yeah nothing nothing has developed on this since july so yeah we'll see we'll see just because valve patents something doesn't mean we'll see it anytime soon all right see you later my floatplane peeps lurchuk um we're going to be restocking the northern lights desk pad in a couple of months unfortunately it takes that long because we sold them all um so now they're gone yeah um flash says average stopping distance of

all cars is around 132 feet and motorcycles range from 80 to 246 if you include thinking time cool thank you for that Linus's room appears to be almost entirely populated with doors says Astromanta yes

most of them are real and also fake real fake doors see you later ladies and gentlemen hope you enjoyed the show