The WAN Show - The New XBOX is a PC?! - WAN Show Dec 13, 2019

Episode Date: December 14, 2019

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yeah and we were showing them twitch's new dashboard we went wow their new dashboard is sure a lot more new looking than your new dashboard YouTube got the dark theme right they did they got the dark theme right it's got a nice dark theme except usually when you go with like a dark theme you don't make the white text and like icons like pure white I Don't think those are quite pure white no they're too white yes, but they aren't pure white They look like it from here, but I have bad eyes, and it's decently far you do yeah, so anyway guys We we we got coached on the tools turns out it was user error but also bad tools.

So, you know, it's kind of like when the guy chops his finger off with the hedge trimmer, but the hedge trimmer had no instructions and had like a, you know, the handle had the start button right on it. And there's like a thing from inside the thing that you got to pull out with your fingers. And the only place right on it, and there's a thing from inside the thing that you've got to pull out with your fingers, and the only place to grab it is there, and you lose your finger, and you're like, well, this wasn't entirely my fault. Or, considering the state of the dashboard,

the start button's just in the spinning part. Yeah, yeah. In there. So we've got a great show for you guys today. Microsoft unveiled the new Xbox. Oh, my. Part of a proud line of Xboxes with names that make absolutely no sense. The Intel Core i9 10 9. You know what? I think in protest against Intel's naming schemes, I am going to start saying all of the numbers individually.

The Core i9 10900K. I thought you were going to go with just of the numbers individually. The Core i9-10900K. I thought you were going to go with just dropping the 10. No, no, no. 900K. I'll keep the... Start it over for them. I'll keep the 10. If they're going to make it terrible, I'm just going to take it one step further. That's all. 10-core processor

and Z490 chipset are rumored to arrive in April 2020. What else we got? You should do the dashes. I9-10. I know we're on it. Mac Pro pricing and Facebook to use Oculus VR data for ad purposes,

because we all knew that was going to go downhill eventually. Shut up. Shut the barn door. The front door. That was close. Shut some door. All right, guys. Intro time. shut the door all right guys intro time oh my it's monday oh my display oh i thought we were going for the triple m this time nope no it was worth a shot but we we didn't make it we did not we did not do that thing all right so why don't we jump

right into our headline topic i had uh oh bloody hell our chat is fast what was your name again what was your name there buddy uh whatever it doesn't matter it might just be gone yeah i'm i'm over it and they're like is the new oh here it. And they're like, is the new... Oh, here it is. Alex Herring asks, is the new Xbox good? Well, let's open up that can of worms. Oh, I don't. Because I don't know if what I've seen is real. It's real.

It's real. Okay, so I saw a tweet from a friend of mine that works it works it Microsoft yep, yeah, and I I saw a picture yeah, and he said it was a new Xbox Yeah And I was like there's no way and then I expanded it to look at the comments and the comments seem to be sure It is real it is real what this is news dot Xbox dot com That is the new Xbox. Okay, so both companies just completely abandoned the traditional console design that they had established for years. I mean, in fairness to them, Nintendo's done some pretty weird stuff too.

Oh, but they never had a traditional console design. Well, they defined the traditional console design. And then immediately abandoned it. Well, no, no. NES, SNES. Yeah, and then... N64. Ugh.

Controllers on the front. Cartridge in the top. Eh? Okay. Eh? Okay. Okay. But, like, the shape of it and stuff.

The GameCube was a departure. Controllers on the front. Disk in the top. Disk in the top. Disk in the top. Yeah, yeah, okay. So they shared that design. There's a tradition. They went from box to box with some weird edges

to box with round stuff and weird edges to cube. They just keep changing their form. Xbox and PlayStation have generally been kind of the same deal. So here's the fundamental problem that I have with that. Everybody, not everybody, most people already own their home media console. And by console, I don't mean game console. I mean like the cabinet or like the thing

that your TV sits on yep And I've actually run into this because I'm one of the few freaks on this planet that actually has like an HTPC Like a computer hooked up in my living room although I mostly use it for VR actually as opposed to home theater nests HDR on Windows just terrible anyway HDR on Windows, just terrible. Anyway, so I'm one of the few freaks that has one of those. And one of the biggest problems out there with having a PC hooked up to your TV is that the vast majority of these consoles are not designed to have a computer-shaped thing in them. And Microsoft went and created a computer-shaped thing.

Now, in fairness to Microsoft, the size actually looks quite deal-with-able. So we've got an Xbox controller there. Yeah. So it looks like it's about an Xbox controller wide. So it's about like that. And then it's about three Xbox controllers high. So it's about like that. That's pretty manageable, I think.

But it just looks like a computer. And so naturally, it, it raises all the same commentary that we've been making about the Xbox and the PlayStation, for that matter, as they've become more and more PC-like. That it's just a PC, why don't you just call it a PC at this point? Yeah. Anyway, let's go through, uh, what else what else oh as for whether or not it's good I'm sure it's fine I mean the dev kits that people have right now are likely just based on like like multiple GPUs of whatever's current gen because it's gonna be man what's the what's the new what's the new AMD?

RTG? No, that's Radeon Technologies. Oh, the name. I didn't know the name until I got to the end of the trailer. No. Okay, if you can switch to my screen for a sec. I would love to. This part of the video.

So they start the trailer video. Sorry, RDNA-based graphics. That's AMD's new architecture. Anyway they start the trailer video. Sorry, our DNA based graphics. That's AMD's new architecture. Anyway, sorry, go ahead. They start the video off with like pseudo game trailer style footage, which is probably what they should have done. It makes sense. And then they transition

to like, and this is the box that it's all going to be played on, right? Yeah. This part is the most like, this is a computer ad ever. And like, the point that it really hits like a computer Yeah, but not yet right here where it goes green at the top. Yeah, I'm like that's RGB That Corsair somehow figured out how to shove into Some new like cooler and this is an advertisement for a cooler for an AIO for a computer. Yeah.

Like this. Power your dreams. I too, I really do dream of a day when the Xbox is just a PC and we can stop pretending. Yeah. Because honestly, that would be really cool if an Xbox was just a really affordable PC that you hooked up in your living room that came with a controller, and the actual Xbox software layer just ran on top of like a hypervisor or something like that,

so that it was the kind of thing that you could actually just run on any PC and cross-platform play becomes just everywhere. That'd be freaking sick, because by the time it's running on, I think, what is it? Is it going to be Zen 2 cores? You know, I'm going to have to check my notes here.

But by the time it's running on, yeah, yeah. By the time it's running on AMD Zen 2 CPU cores and, you know, DirectX 12 RDNA-based architecture GPU, unless they do another, like, weird thing where they use the they use the GDDR memory as the system RAM or something bizarre like that, which we actually did see in that weird Chinese console, and it did it on Windows. Yeah, yeah. So unless they do something weird architecturally, it's just a PC. So it'd be super cool if I could just have my PC be an Xbox. Now, I know for DRM reasons,

that's going to be very difficult to do, but I mean, we live in the age of always connected DRM. It seems like the kind of thing that would be manageable through software somehow. Yeah, doable. So it's called the Xbox Series X. So why don't we walk through it, shall we? We had the Xbox.

The Xbox 360. Which was a good enough name. I had no real issue with the 360. I think that's just because you were at an age where the Xbox 360 was like an important console for you growing up. It was. I played a lot of Halo 2. I think that's the only reason you forgive it. Rose colored.

Hold on. Hold on. At on, hold on. At least there was a clear, at least there was a clear, there wasn't a clear road ahead in terms of naming. I remember at the time people thought it might be like 720 or whatever. Well, no, I know. Oh, ahead from 360. Yeah, that's because they backed themselves into a corner, ironically.

You name it after a circle, you back yourself into a corner ironically you name it after you back yourself into a corner dude the amount of jokes about like I'm going to do a 180 when I see the 360 and all this they were there was so many um but yeah I didn't mind it too much it didn't make a lot of sense on its own right but there was a clear distinction between it and the previous

one and then it went just went sharply down we went xbox one but like I don't think they had anywhere logical to really go because calling a 720 would be silly too i don't know what do you do after that uh the x well if you're intel you call it the xbox 10 900 and 700 k s edition i9 you gotta do individual digits. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but so... Yeah, so we went to Xbox One after that.

Yep, and then... They were all kind of part of the same generation. One S, one... X. X. Yeah, and then... Those two were actually more like the same generation, but that was like a gen...

That was like a half gen, you know? And like, X is a... yeah, I don't know. They're like surprisingly, the one originally is surprisingly different from the one X. Yeah, and the S is more of just like a, like a die-shrunk one-ish, but then has a Blu-ray drive, so it's like, that's pretty sweet. It's like a decent amount of differentiation,

more than what I would normally expect from like, oh, you get the PlayStation, then you get the PlayStation you get to PlayStation slim Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a little bit different than that So and now we have the series X which is like okay, so here is my thought on that And I actually don't know oh yeah here we go So here's my thought on that is Is it comes down to this backwards compatible messaging. So this is a quote. You can expect your gaming legacy,

thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, all your Xbox One gaming accessories, and services like Xbox Game Pass to be available when you power on your Xbox Series X in holiday 2020. It's cool that controllers work. So that's why they're calling it Xbox Series X because they are acknowledging that architecturally

they are the same damn thing, so there is no reason whatsoever to not just run those older games on the new one rather than locking down backwards and forwards compatibility. So this is like Overwatch 2 Hardware Edition. Yeah. Like you can do kind of the same thing, sort of like Overwatch 2 hardware edition. Yeah.

Like you can do kind of the same thing, sort of. Left 4 Dead 2. Yeah. New console edition. Don't worry. We got all the same maps, all the same characters, all the same guns. There's just more maps and characters and guns. Yeah.

And it runs, well, whatever. Don't worry about it. It runs better. So this has the potential to be incredibly game-changing. In that the game doesn't change because you can play the same game. Right. Okay, doesn't matter. So let's talk about the performance.

Actually, hold on. Let's walk through the look first. So it basically looks like a Corsair One. One of the reasons why I called it a Cors so it basically looks like a Corsair one I was gonna say the one of the reasons why I call it Corsair was it looks like a Corsair one um supports vertical and horizontal orientation but looking at it I think it's pretty obvious that you you're an idiot if you put it on the side isn't the logo gonna be wrong you have a local be going the wrong way unless okay okay Phil if you're watching, okay, here's an idea, free of charge, magnetic logo, okay? It's been done before.

Yeah. But PCs have been made before too. Yeah, I know, right? Okay, so it exhausts heat out the top, there's a green light visible. Would love it if it's RGB, I doubt it. I doubt it, it's almost certainly just green. Yep, about as wide as a controller,

blah, blah, blah, blah? Has a disk drive. Has a disk drive, but is ready for Microsoft's streaming service. And whether you guys like it or not, whether the hardcores like it or not, streaming is absolutely the way forward for gaming. Not the way better, the way forward, because that's just how it's going to be. And I think we've talked about this on the WAN show before. There are going to be game experiences that would have been impossible if you had to synchronize all the data between the multiple players from remote clients. So game environments that all run within the data center with only the inputs

Yeah, and the display signaling actually going out to the remote clients like the the size of like imagine this from from a developer perspective the size of a giant world that you could build with everything connected via You know fiber optic from within a data center, running on this gigantic cluster compared to what you can do with sort of discrete servers and people remoting into it. To be absolutely clear, this is not me saying that it won't happen. I think it will take an extreme amount of time before we get there. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Because not only is the entire industry going to have to accept this, and that's going to take a while. It's going to change game development fundamentally. And then people are going to have to figure out how to even do that. Absolutely. Because that's going to be a completely different. But. Yeah.

You always follow the scent of the money. Oh, yeah. No, it's, yeah. And the money, so much like Netflix I don't think any anybody saw you know back when Netflix was just doing like DVD rentals through the mail blockbuster sure didn't I don't think anybody yeah it's actually a fascinating story because it's not just that they just buried blockbuster uh it's that they tried to sell themselves to blockbuster and blockbuster said no you should like look up up the whole history of Netflix and Blockbuster.

It's very interesting. So I don't think anybody saw Netflix coming as a creator of like iconic, like the new Martin Scorsese film. Like truly flagship grade content. Wait, sorry, what? Like Netflix is like making this stuff?

They're backing this stuff? They have the money for that? Anyone who has the money is going to try to create exclusive experiences So as soon as you've got people subscribing to these streaming services Just playing traditional games that could have just as easily been played with a disk and a drive or or a file Downloaded to an SSD or whatever the case may be as soon as that happens You've got that recurring revenue and they're gonna try and find a way to hold on to that recurring revenue and the way to do it is to create unique experiences speaking of unique experiences there's a super cool VR thing that's coming to

Vancouver we got to talk about it later we gotta go play I've heard about it no okay it's room scale it's dope Oh looks dope anyway nice talk about it later okay um for now, playing games locally, you'll have four times the processing power of the Xbox One X in the most quiet and efficient way. They're expecting 4K at 60 FPS with the possibility of up to 120 FPS. A lot of people get confused, I think,

when they see console specs. Like, they'll see them say things like HDMI 2mi 2.1 uh up to 8k and then things like uh up to 120 fps nobody's talking about 120 fps at 8k that that that that's either or that's that's like that's like this one but not this or this but not this to be very very clear i think some games could run at 4k 120 fps but we're talking about um play snake yeah you could probably do 8k 120 exit well okay we're we're talking about developers ultimately deciding how they want the game to be experienced on the xbox um and then just putting all those toggles in the PC version. Yeah.

Yeah. And you can just decide how you want to play it. By the way, PC people, I know sometimes people get all stinky when a new console comes out and the PC versus console war kind of pops back up and whatnot. I just want everyone to remember, whenever new consoles come out, the quality of PC games tend to go up. Yep, and remember, we're all on the same team now because the Xbox is just a locked down PC. Yep, it's just a bunch of people buying premades.

Yep. That's basically it. All right, so custom design Zen 2 AMD CPU, hardware accelerated ray tracing, although we mostly knew that was coming on AMD's upcoming products. Support for variable refresh rate, although the Xbox already had that

in the form of FreeSync, which a lot of people think FreeSync is like this open standard that AMD developed and is open. It's not open. So FreeSync is AMD's branding for the AdaptiveSync open standard on DisplayPort? Yeah, AMD's implementation of adaptive sync on HDMI is

proprietary So actually I actually was not aware when a TV supports FreeSync I guarantee it's over HDMI because TVs don't have DisplayPort ports. So when a TV supports FreeSync, it's actually kind of bastardizing the HDMI input to accept this proprietary protocol that AMD has actually developed. Interesting. So now you know. Yeah. So that's why it took NVIDIA so long to support variable refresh rate on TVs.

One, I think they were kind of doing their own thing with the whole BFGD thing and the G-Sync modules. So that's definitely one side of it. How well do you think that's done for them? Sorry to derail you right now. I think overall, G-Sync has been spectacular. Oh, BFGD is terrible. Yeah, I thought so.

The timing was terrible. If they had actually launched BFGD, so that's NVIDIA's 65-inch, like, like, 1,000-nit peak brightness HDR, 144-hertz 4K gaming display, super cool technology. If they had actually launched that thing. Around these.

When they, not even that, like, when they announced it. Oh, okay. If that had been a launch, guys, it's going to be on the shelf next month, they would have sold a ton of them because the TV industry was still sitting on its butt, trying to figure out having decent input LED, let alone high refresh rates at 4K. But now that HDMI 2.1 is being rolled out into TVs that you can buy on the shelf for $2,000 right now, that's rough, especially, especially, man. The LG OLEDs that support G-Sync,

they do up to 4K 120 hertz, G-Sync down to, I believe it's 40 hertz, is the minimum of the refresh window. So technically, a BFGD will go lower. And G-Sync will still function all the way down to zero. It'll interpolate frames and stuff. The module does have a function, but as long as you've got a decent computer hooked up to it

and you're somewhat optimizing your in-game settings... If you're spending that much on a screen, you should probably be able to run over 40 FPS. Exactly. The OLED experience? So good, so good. I've got a video coming. Pun definitely intended. I replaced the BFGD in my living room. Talk about the experience of going OLED with G-Sync. It's freaking awesome. Spoiler alert. Love it.

One thing to tie in, so I'm going to jump back and derail us temporarily again. But Amazon, you know, they have that new Lord of the Rings show coming out. They're spending like a billion dollars on it or whatever. This MMO was announced a while ago, but very recently. I'm flipping over to your screen. Very recently, as of July, I guess, but I didn't hear about this. It's being set up by Amazon Game Studios. Amazon is making a new Lord of the Rings free-to-play MMO.

Amazon's, I think, more directly jumping into the gaming scene with this. So I think Amazon Game Studios has done some stuff before, but I don't know how much of it really mattered. And if they're bankrolling the TV show with a billion dollars, they're probably going to bankroll the game with quite a bit as well. I don't know exactly how much, but, like, damn. I think they're really trying to capitalize on the name. We can go back now.

All right, cool. So this is a really neat feature. The Xbox, aside from having automatic low latency mode where it tells the TV, hey, hey, hey you switch over to game mode so that the latency doesn't suck because even on the latest OLEDs it goes from In the neighborhood of 100 milliseconds, which is freaking brutal. Yeah down to 12. Oh in game mode Yeah, and it's really not bad 12 is incredible. That's at 60 Hertz. Yeah, so they're actually doing that by I Forget it's like it's a different uh it's a different input buffering mode so it's not a full frame it's like line based or something so they're actually actually have it down to less than one frame oh that's crazy it's really cool but in addition to that they've got um this uh this latency

improvement thing ah dynamic latency input which will actually make the player's inputs synchronize with the rendering chain so that it's going in at the most timely possible moment. Cool. Which is sick. That's actually pretty sweet. I mean, you're still on like a wireless controller, so... Depends how well they do the wireless.

Yeah, but... I don't know how well they're doing it, but, you know. Don't quote me on this, but I thought the Xbox One was Bluetooth. I don't think it was. I think it can be. I think that's where I'm getting confused. I believe it can be either Bluetooth or another one. Correct me in the chat if I'm wrong, though, guys.

I think at the very least it had something else going on, or it was like a custom implementation or something, but I remember something weird going on there. It's gonna have an SSD to, quote unquote, virtually eliminate load times, thank goodness. This thing actually sounds kinda awesome. Variable rate shading, which is super sick, so that's part of the way that they're going to be able

to game at 4K, like reasonably, or maybe even, you know, who knows, maybe 8K 60? That'd be tough. Anyway, that's how they're gonna game at 4K. That's how they're gonna hit these super high 120 FPS frame rates. Because variable rate shading allows you to shade certain parts of the scene

much more accurately than others and save GPU resources for parts that the viewer wasn't gonna look at anyway. We have actually a fastest possible about that. There's a new controller which has some new stuff, but I think the Xbox controllers probably changed like the least out of most of them other than maybe PlayStation. So basically just Nintendo keeps sticking around with it. Yeah.

Yeah. But it's not going to be hugely different. Nintendo, the analog stick. There's an analog, it's in the middle. Now there's two, they're here and here. Oh, now you wiggle it around like this. Wait, now you hold the control. What are you guys doing? There's no stick when you move it around.

Yeah, but I don't think it's going to be that different. Your previous controllers are also still going to work. You'll probably get one with the new xbox pc whatever um xbox series x i think it's called uh but like yeah all your old controllers will still work i think that's a pretty cool move a lot of the time when consoles come out they make money off of stuff like the accessories so letting you use your old controllers is like pretty cool actually uh yeah they have Bluetooth and radio so they use radio when available and Bluetooth if you don't have it so yeah it should be fine

should be fine um all right processors yeah we kind of oh yeah I guess yeah we should move a lot we've talked about this for a long time been live for 26 minutes ladies and gentlemen yeah so let's let's talk about the new Intel. C-O-R-E space I9 dash 10900K space 10 dash C-O-R-E. Hold on. Hold on. Sorry. Nick really would like us to talk about something very important, very near to your heart. Oh.

Right here. Oh. This shirt. Oh. That's what you're here for, right? Of course. So this, guys. Yeah. This is the Beta Oh this shirt. Oh, that's what you're here for right so this guy This is the beta squadron shirt

It's a little bit different from our previous ones guys the fits gonna be a little bit different because it's a 100% cotton shirt Unlike the the tri blend ones that we normally do Poly but excuse me sorry poly blend ones we normally do So that means that it's fitting a little loose right now. It will shrink a little bit because it's 100% cotton. The graphic is a combination of the LTC logo and the Floatplane logo. And then this Beta Squadron thing we thought was funny. Yeah. Because Floatplane is officially going into Beta.

When does the video announcement go up? Don't tell Apple. But other than that yes absolutely videos going up on Sunday night yeah something like that so this is going to be like a commemorative shirt we're going to be selling on the LTT store it's limited edition

once they're gone they're gone we're not going to print more of these but yeah it's super it's super bold Luke was saying he thought it was just like a little thing up here. It's like no it's like beta Squadron so it's just it's a play on floatplane officially entering beta and also just You know beta kind of cool funny word. Yeah, we we're gonna

I'm gonna have to try to scoop some for like my employee people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's where they potentially disappear That's fine. Don't worry about it. Yeah Yeah, and it's sold as pre-sale So they'll print next week ship next week slash the week after Okay. All right the week after. Okay. All right.

And then also, you wanted to run a promo last week, but you forgot to talk about it. Do you want to just run it this week? Mm-hmm. Sure. Yeah, why don't we do a promo on the store?

What was it again? I don't remember. It's buy one, get one hardware shirts. Oh, yeah. Buy one, get one hardware shirts. Oh, wow. Buy one, get one half. Yeah.

Oh. Yeah, buy one, get one 50% off. Thank you. Glad we clarified that. What's the code? Oh, they just add two. So add any two hardware shirts. So it's like the CPU design, RAM design, GPU, fan.

Those are awesome shirts. And these ones are the normal ones that are on the poly blend. Yeah. Did you mean LTTstore.com? Holy cow, these are already up. You better believe I did. Those pictures were up really quickly. Wait, what is I Love Toy Trains Country Store?

ILTTstore.com. No, no, not that one. What the hell? I'm already on the store. Hold on, hold on. No, we're going to this store right now. Wow. Click here to browse. Click here. Click here. Grand reopening. Look at this kid. He's having a good time. This is hilarious.

How old is this site? I love how it's like super out of the very, very old internet. It's not even like a secure site. Yeah. And then there's YouTube links. So it's clearly not like the... Oh. Oh.

Oh, boy. Okay. I Love Toy Train store, Michigan City, 60 miles east of Chicago, and just minutes off I-94. Studio where the popular I Love Toy Train series is filmed. All right. sorry, sorry. We'll get back. That was the 2019 video.

These are, he's on this. All right, anyway. So here's the Floatplane X. I think they need to switch it to this one. LTT beta, yeah, I like this one better too. Can we make this one the default picture? Sure. Yeah, all right.

Beta Squadron shirt. There's this guy. So yeah, any of the hardware shirts. Processor, GPU Squadron shirt. There's this guy. So yeah, any of the hardware shirts. Processor, GPU, hard drive. I really like the hard drive one. Fan, RAM. If you were a fan, which two would you get? I'm just going to say my personal favorites are GPU, CPU, and hard drive. Oh, RAM's really good too.

I actually... So you'd just buy four? Yeah, yeah! Problem solved. Buy three, get one free. Wait, can they apply the promo code twice? I doubt that works. I don't think it's limited to one use per customer. Okay, well I have no idea. So you just do two carts. You can check it out right now if you add four to your cart. Yeah, you could try. No, that's fine. Those guys can figure it out. Alright, so why don't we jump into the Core i9. Processor. The Core i9-10900K.

Solid. You know, this will help because it will extend the video times of any reviews anyone does about this. Am I really going to have to say this out loud? This was posted on the forum by Olympic Ass Eater. The original article is from tech powerup.com Intel is expected to refresh its mainstream desktop platform with more 14 nanometer Hooray, I do the 14 nanometer dance. Yeah 14 nanometer dance? Yeah. Woo. 14 nanometer.

Woo. We should throw them a party for their age and it's like how long they've been on that process. Yeah, it's like third, fourth birthday or whatever. Core i3, four core, eight thread. Wow. Core i3s are going to be-core 8-thread. So within one process node, Intel is gonna go from selling 4-core 8-threads as top tier to bargain basement. Core i5s will be 6-core 12-thread.

Wow, i5s are getting hyper-threading. i7s will be 8-core 16-thread and the i9-10900K, 10-core 20-thread. We're also gonna get a new socket. So we're doing away with 11-5 something we get 1200 full pins now Just flat and a 400 series chipset series So a series of 400 something chipsets led by the z490 Express at the top It's been a while since they've called a chipset something Express

Yes, I feel like that was, like, when's the last time Intel had an Express chipset? Not, like, 775, 478 days? Intel Express. G41? Yeah, like, QS67 Express chipset. Okay, so not quite as old as I thought it was. Huh. That is like super, super weird branding

for them to bring up again for no apparent reason. Yep. I was trying to figure out why they might have done it. I have no idea. So it's got 49 more pins. We're expecting improved power delivery and support for future incremental I.O. features. The pin one position remains the same,

but it has shifted the socket keying to the left. Previously, it was right, making Comet Lake Processor incompatible both electrically and mechanically with previous sockets. We expected that. Generally speaking, Intel does one launch with a new platform, and then one refresh, and that's it.

Platform maps of these PCI Express Gen 3 based chipsets make them look largely similar to the current 300 series platform, with a few changes. So, they've added C10 and S0IX modern standby power states, which give your PC an

iPad-like availability while sipping minimal power. That's pretty sweet. Slightly different from Smart Connect is that your web connected apps and processor work at extremely low power like a fanless state rather than waking your machine from time to time for the apps to refresh. They have updated the networking interfaces adding support for 2.5 gigabit. Wired LAN, so that's pretty sick. And built in Wi-Fi 6 So that's pretty sick. Yep. And built-in Wi-Fi 6. That's pretty nice too. And the underlying architecture is basically identical in terms of design to Skylake circa 2015. Oof.

The platform also mentions an interesting specification, enhanced core and memory overclocking. specification, enhanced core and memory overclocking. Maybe this could be the secret ingredient that makes the i9-10900K competitive with the lights of the Ryzen 9 3900X. Unfortunately, by that time, AMD will supposedly

have launched news and processors. This is just wild. I don't know. I would actually... I don't necessarily think you should actually do it. I've been out of the content space for a long time. But I would love to see a mock video of like a birthday party for Intel. And just going over the like, if you went over like, you know those birthday parties that are more for the parents?

And you go over like, you learn to walk and just have it like go through all the stages. First you said you didn't have any cores, then you added more, then you added more again, then you added more, you sneaky... We're so proud of you. Yeah, turns out you could do it after all, couldn't ya? Oh, jeez. Oh, man.

All right. Speaking of things we could do... Most processors don't even live to turn four. I'm just sorry i'm just way too into that idea uh mac pro oh all right we got to do our sponsors use code linus and get 50 off at madrinascoffee.com slash linus madrina's coffee is coffee for fuel organic cold brew coffee and convenient 16 ounce cans with a flavor for everyone. We actually have a limited edition item on their e-store. The LTT exclusive vanilla cold brew.

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about that VR thing. So my friend sent me this. I do have friends. It was not actually my friend, it's the husband of my wife's friend. Look, I'm going with it, okay? So it's called

Zero Latency VR, which is a different obviously nonsense. Yeah But they are apparently launching this in the dock here in Vancouver and it looks oh sick So they have a bunch of like this is kind of honestly Where VR is gonna take off? But it's a free roam VR experience where it's kind of like laser tech. Okay. Where is the stupid thing? Dang it. Uh, location. What news is it under news? So Jay and I did a star Wars and a horror game experience.

So it's kind of like this, like it's an open Warehouse. Wow here we go. Oh Sweet okay, this is different. Where's the picture? I just want a picture oh I hate you so much Okay, so sorry you and Jake did a what now? Jay not Jake sure but at in Vegas during CES we did like a Star Wars themed one, but it wasn't a big open arena It was like a guided Walk through thing which is kind of cool because like yeah when when like a droid was there you could reach out and actually touch it oh, that's because they had like a

Just non painted one of it there sure which was which was neat for that experience This would be super cool for like arena style combat so it's a backpack based so you put on backpacks um with the pcs and the headsets they've made their own controllers and stuff so you'll have like rifles and crap like that so it's basically as far as i can tell i haven't tried it yet i'm super excited to try it apparently they're building it right now um oh i was was hoping it was already up. Yeah, no, no, it's not. It's not done yet. But what it sounds like to me is

laser tag, but without all the assholes who are covering up the friggin' things while they poke around the corner. I was driving with someone past Planet Laser, which is somewhat near our office the other day, and I mentioned about how, like, I doubt they've done this but like

They're gonna get ran over by these types of solutions because it's gonna be way better Yeah, it's way way better, and I gave the scenario of like look at the if you had like Rebel Alliance versus stormtroopers, and you like actually look at your buddy, and he's in like stormtrooper armor Oh, yeah, that would be so cool it's gonna be so sick and maybe this implementation honestly isn't that great but it'll come but that's the direction yeah that's the direction it's going that's

100% experience and like laser tag places they have the opportunity to make this investment and still stay relevant but not for long yeah it will not be a long time before you're just like and the stupid thing is like they might look at it and go whoa hold on like two grand a pop for like pcs for everyone's back and like you know a bunch of vr headsets and like oh my goodness all this tracking equipment it's like okay stop i'm gonna stop you right there do you remember back when laser tag equipment was

super expensive so now it's gotten commodity and you're like enjoying that or whatever. But that's what happens. It's a cycle. You got to move on. You got to move on. Yeah, this will absolutely take over. Because even just the guided experience that Jay, myself, and some other people did was amazing. But the whole time, you're in a kind of a cramped room.

Jay and I are big guys, so there isn't a ton of room for us to move around in these small hallways. He means tall, Jay. Calm down. I mean, have you seen his arms? Jay's a big guy in a few different ways. But it's that I didn't intend for that to go that direction but i'm just gonna keep plowing forward um it's it's it's gonna be very cool to be able to move more freely in in in a space and actually like they could put fake terrain in there and stuff

i don't know what they're gonna do it's probably not just gonna be an open virtual room though um for now i think it is. But in the future, I could totally see. Because the thing about an open room is it's less hazardous. And you could always put virtual obstacles that block other people's lasers and you can lean around and stuff. No, that's what I mean. Yeah, you're not actually at risk of, like, hitting.

I think virtually they might put up some terrain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't think they're going to do that otherwise. And they could make it so they. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't think they're going to do that otherwise. And they could make it so they're like, oh, virtual glass. So you can see through it or something. So you know if people are hiding behind cover. And you know that it's obviously not real. So you won't lean against it or something.

But they could put up cover and stuff like that. I think that would be a good idea. Because it will make the game a lot more tactical. Someone just said no love for Jay. I think Luke was saying all the love for Jay. It's just super. No, yeah. Yeah, lots of love.

Yeah, almost too much. Too much love. Yeah. All right, Mac Pro pricing, posted by William CLL on the forum. Basically, the top config is $52,000, but I feel like this headline is really silly. Yeah.

Honestly, because the top configuration of it, nobody, you're not, it's not like you have your arm twisted that you have to buy a terabyte and a half of RAM. That's in the top configuration. Yeah, like it's not the default configuration. Look, look, Mac community and PC people who like ribbing the Mac community,

guys, you can't keep sending mixed messages out of one half of your mouth you're like Apple your computers don't go high-end enough you're not taking professionals seriously and then when Apple releases a computer that is capable of specs that are approaching the top of what can be built with hardware that exists today, while looking subjectively pretty sexy and apparently being quiet, I don't know, we don't have one yet,

you don't get to complain about it. You can't have it both ways. Like, were you actually already a customer for a 28 core Intel Xeon W? Yeah, exactly. Now, now, now now there are things we can complain about. Uh, 25 grand for the 1.5 terabytes of Ram. It's not too bad, but it's also not great. Um, the, we, we just did a video that hasn't gone up yet, uh, playing around with a system with two

terabytes of Ram and that RAM cost about 25 grand. So you're overpaying. You're paying the Apple tax. You're going to be overpaying for it. Yeah, and if you were smart, you would just buy a base spec one in terms of the RAM. And are you playing around with the builder? Do you want me to throw it over on your screen? Yeah, sure.

So you could just buy a base spec one and then put in your own RAM later, flip that other RAM on eBay or whatever, or hold onto it in case you need to get support for your Mac or whatever the case may be. So I'm not saying it's a great deal. Same thing with the processor. The top tier processor, the, you know, whatever it is, 3290 something. Yeah, they don't put the model number because blah, blah, blah.

But the W39329 something, whatever, it doesn't matter. It's the, oh man, 3195, so 3295, I guess. Who cares? The 28-core processor is not well-priced. You can get that thing for like four grand elsewhere, and they want more than that for the upgrade, and you don't even get the one that it ships with then. I don't know what the tech for the SSD is,

but those prices are nuts, too. Those prices... I don't know what it's based on, though. Yeah, so Apple's SSDs are very fast. Okay. So you gotta be, like... I've seen people just, like, finding some bargain basement DRAM-less SSD... Yeah.

...and being like, Apple's overpriced. Like, no, no, no. The SSD is really fast. It's a fast NVMe SSD. It is not apples-to-app apples against some crappy SATA SSD. They don't detail in here. No, you have to just test it for yourself, unfortunately. So, yeah, I don't know. Like, it doesn't even say if it's NVMe or not.

It is. I am expecting it to... I completely believe you, and it would make sense that it would be, considering they even did that in their damn phones a while back. But, like, it doesn't say. I expecting the ssds to be really fast it's just um you know it's one of those things where you might not agree with the choices apple's made like we talked about this in our review of the imac pro you might not agree with the fact that apple put a z on in it that might feel unnecessary to you because a core i9 is functionally identical other than not supporting ecc memory for five hundred dollars less not to mention that the unbuffered memory that you can then use with it

Is also cheaper you might not agree with them You know going and having AMD engineer some custom stupid version of their card that has though a different special power connector instead Just plugging a damn cable into it but power connector instead of just plugging a damn cable into it. But whether or not you agree with their choices or not, that doesn't mean that for the thing that Apple is providing, their price is necessarily unreasonable. Now, I do think the Mac Pro pricing is kind of dumb, but I think people are attacking the wrong spectrum of the Mac Pro pricing. They're attacking the top tier price, which is something nobody should be buying anyway,

when really what they should be attacking is the base spec price, where you're investing most of your money, as far as I can tell, into days of CNC time on this chassis for an eight-core processor and what does that have by default? 32 gigs of RAM. 32 gigs of RAM. A Radeon Pro 580X, which don't't kid yourself is just a 580x with some driver switches flipped 256 gigs of storage literally a last generation graphics card like come on that's what people should be mocking you get a magic mouse too oh boy oh boy i can flip my mouse over

to charge it you know i had a really frustrating experience with my AirPods 2s the other night. So I mostly use them with an Android phone. And I knew already going into this relationship with my AirPods that there's no way to update the firmware on an Android device. You can't just, or at least no first-party way. I haven't actually looked into whether there's some hacky way to do it to my knowledge There isn't but feel free to tell me if I'm wrong you guys love that So anyway I I knew that I was gonna need to connect it to an Apple device at some point if I wanted to update the firmware

so I was having this weird issue that cropped up where Sometimes only one of them would activate the noise cancellation and It's super bizarre like I would go and I would press the thing and it would just toggle that one and then I'd go and toggle this one and then they would be like desync so everything would sound like it was echoing super buggy anyway what I found out I googled it was I was running a firmware on this that was like pre the one that I found online was supposed to be the release one I was like oh okay so I've got like

super old firmware there's two more updates since then. So I'm like, okay, how do I update this? And so I'm going through this like guide because I couldn't even find like the watch. There's just an app. Okay. So there's an icon on your home screen. You just click your watch app.

But AirPods don't have that. You have to go into, where's my iPhone? It doesn't matter. Anyway, I think I left it upstairs. Anyway, the point is you have to go into like software about and then you scroll down and you find airpods but only if they're nearby and the case is open so otherwise it's just not there i'm like oh well that's genius love it um it's magic it just works you know so anyway i go in there i'm like where's the where's the freaking firmware update button?

And there isn't one. And so I keep reading the article. Excuse me? So here's how it works. If you wanna update the firmware of your AirPods, you connect them to a charging device. Okay. Open them, leave them near your iPhone, and then when Apple deems the time to be right, they will push a firmware update to your AirPods.

And I was like, what if I'm having a problem now? See, this is my problem with Apple. I have no issue with things magically working. In fact, I'm a big fan of stuff just working in my life. The problem is that Apple is so dedicated to this it just works philosophy that they seem to, it seems like their brains just jam when something doesn't work.

And I remember having this experience a number of years ago when I did the iSwitched to Mac. And I was using the iMac, I think it was the iMac 5K as my daily driver for a month. And I had this issue where I knew that there was a file in this folder, in Finder, that was there. Or it was like a network directory or something that wasn't loading or wasn't updating correctly and I was trying to figure out how to update the damn thing how to force refresh it and I found out that in finder you may not do that and the only responses I could find were that well it should show up right it. But what about when it doesn't? There has to be recourse for that. And so this is exactly the same thing. So I left it there for a

while. I walked away and it just didn't update. So I was like, okay. So I connected it and then I connected the phone too, and I left them for another half an hour, and I came back, and it did. And I'm like, oh, thank goodness. I'm running the latest version of the firmware now. What if it didn't? Then what? It's just so stupid to me. It's like this whole thing where apply buttons have gone out of fashion.

Yeah. Well, it should just update. Well, what if it doesn't? What if I just want the peace of mind of knowing that it's done? What I like is when it does it automatically, but there's also a button that queues it up. What? I don't like that.

Why? Because I want my button to be the only, I want the button to be the gatekeeper. When I press the update button, I want it like that. Why? Because I want my button to be the only, I want the button to be the gatekeeper. When I press the update button, I want it to update, not before and not after. Unless I check automatic updates, but I still want a button to check.

I just want to know. Okay, Boomer. And the other thing, oh, the other stupid thing too. Once I got to the menu, I had to just Google whether the firmware version I had was current. It didn't say there's an update. Current version or something. It's just like, you know, A, B, 5, 8, 5, whatever.

Like it was just literally a string of five characters. That's the firmware version. It doesn't say if there's a new one. Drives me nuts. So one thing before we move on from this apple topic is can you switch back to my screen yeah i sure can so i noticed this while you were talking yeah uh it's not cut off at the very top just a little gray banner thing get six percent daily cash back when you buy from apple and pay with apple Card until December 31st. Pretty sick. Broadcast it on the Mac Pro webpage.

Pretty sick. You will very possibly be buying a multi $10,000 computer. And then you go learn more and it's like, yeah, you get it in a bunch of places and stuff, whatever. But I bet you they're getting a ton of card signups just due to how expensive their computer is. Yep. Which is kind of amazing.

Yep. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they're getting like corporate card signups too. Because that's what I would be after if I was them. Getting those corporate cards switched over to Apple cards. So that all them corporate expenses, like our credit card. Because we put everything on it. Why not? We get benefits from ours as well. Yeah. not six percent cash back. That's pretty sick

Well, it's a very tough from Apple calm. Yeah, it's time. I think you get three percent from elsewhere But only until December 31st or something But yeah, whatever. I just I find that amazing cuz yeah corporate. I mean if you're buying 30 of these Yeah, they're like $15,000 version or something. Oh, that's like painful. Yeah, that's painful We're going to go one and I'm already like trying to figure out how to do the review within 15 days so we can return it Let's go 16 core not even joking six gigs. I got I keep that thing. What do I need an expensive computer for? five-cent single GPU Why for? I told Andy we should figure out a way to strap the Pro XDR display to the side and make it a backpack. Why? Because, why not? It's a portable PC. Yeah. Portable computer. Yeah, portable Mac Pro.

Can you move Final Cut Pro from one system to another? Yeah. Okay, so we won't buy that. Okay, yeah. So like probably $14,200. Is that your sensible configuration? I threw in a 16-core processor. Sure. That seems reasonable. I threw in 96 gigs of RAM. Yeah, sure. I threw in the highest-end single GPU.

You just want a single GPU. We went with the highest-end, a single-card dual GPU. We went with that one. Okay, yeah. That way we have the potential to upgrade while still maintaining our maximum slot filling potential. I was, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. I was trying to keep that open.

That makes sense, though. I went two terabyte SSD. That's reasonable. I mean, you should be working off a network on anything that's bigger than two terabytes anyway if you're not crazy. Like, you shouldn't be doing anything locally on a computer in this day and age if you're doing real work. I did throw in the afterburner card. did too i want to see what it does yeah yeah and then just i want to see if we can run it in a hackintosh the afterburner card it's just pcie it doesn't have their

um their extra pins on the end interesting yeah so i really want to see if that'll work i also want to see because as far as i know they're not selling it separately so i also want to see if we can throw the afterburner in just like a Razer Core and then hook it up via Thunderbolt to like a Mac Pro. So it's like how much of the amazing performance of the new Mac Pro, because the thing about Apple's software is because they've had trash machines only for like six years, their software is so well optimized like you can edit 8k footage in final cut on a freaking laptop so i wonder if a ton of the amazing performance of the mac pro is

just this bloody afterburner card that if they sold it separately you could hook it up to a macbook so i'm not saying that's definitely it i'm just saying it might be it i i did i will say if you click on the do i need an afterburner thing? It says at the very bottom after like explaining what it is if you purchase an afterburner for your Mac Pro It will come pre-installed in PCI Express slot 5 16x or x16 Whatever to enable maximum performance. Okay. Well, thanks, so you can challenge official claim yeah Thanks.

So you can challenge an official claim. Yeah. We've got a comment from Jamal on Floatplane. 10 gigabit Ethernet switches are still not cheap, Linus. Local storage will survive until it is. We're talking about the Mac Pro. Okay. Still not cheap. We see pretty much the base version being about $14,200.

Yeah, you can get a 10 gig switch for 500 bucks. And if you're an editing office and you have like 10 of these, you know, it's... I think you can afford a 10 gig switch. $140,000 roughly on just the towers. Yeah. Not a... $5,000 displays, $1,000 stands.

I think you got this, you know? I think you can buy that networking. Yeah, I think you can get that switch. No problemo. All right, what else we got? We got any other, like, big topics? Say, Nick, you're standing there so patiently. What can we do for you?

Well, a question about the Mac Pro. Does it have a T2 chip? Yes, it does. Oh, my God. Unfortunately, yeah. That's so crazy. I didn't even think about that. Yeah.

So I'm just going to make a comment of, if you want one of those shirts, you should get it before they're gone Cause they're moving quickly. Oh are they? Yeah. Oh people are into this, eh? Love it! Cool. That's cool. So if you want one, get it. They might not last the weekend. I will also say if you come to LTX this gray is a very nice signing color I'm just, Black Sharpie will look really good on this I'm curious I'm logging into my station. Do you want to talk through the oculus thing sure let me find it real quick

So Facebook to use oculus vr data for ad purposes oculus is We're so surprised. Yeah, this is what everybody was talking about back when we were still working out of the house I know right right when right when Facebook bought oculus We were like welp wonder what they're gonna do with it long run, and they were like oh nothing and we were like, Welp, wonder what they're going to do with it long run. And they were like, oh, nothing. And we were like, oh, yeah, whatever. We want Oculus to be just the way it is.

We're going to leave them alone and not get rid of any of the leadership, except they're all gone. Except they're all gone, yeah. Literally every single one of them. So, yeah, they're rolling out a new social feature that requires you to log into Facebook on Oculus to use. When you do this, Oculus data is shared with Facebook to inform ads. You see them when you log into Facebook on Oculus.

If you choose not to log into Facebook on Oculus or you choose to log out of Facebook from Oculus, your Oculus information won't be shared with Facebook to show you more personalized content, including ads. It doesn't say if that means it will be shared at all. It just says it won't be shared for more personalized content including ads. If you have logged into Facebook on Oculus and then log

out, no new data will be shared with Facebook. However, Oculus may use your information for its own advertising purposes in accordance with the Oculus privacy policy. Fantastic. One thing that I want to tangent on here real quick. Hit me.

Is I haven't been there yet, but I have been informed that Guilford Mall has advertising kiosks that look very much like touchscreen things. They're all new fancy stuff and they have a camera at the top that points straight down at your face like it's not out at the thing it's for anyone that is up looking at the kiosk yeah um and right now it doesn't seem like it's doing much but fully suspecting that's going to be dynamic advertisements based on facial recognition um i think that's the longer be dynamic advertisements based on facial recognition. I think that's the longer term.

I think for now what they're probably gauging is the effectiveness of the ads, which ones are the most eye-catching. Very likely that would make sense. In the long term, it'll be both. Yep. Absolutely. Totally makes sense. So, yeah, we moved 90 of these shirts already.

Nice. So we actually did not print that many. So guys, move fast if you want one. I think that's... I'm going to have to place my own order. Wow, we only talked about four topics today, but I still felt like it was a really... Some chunky topics.

Yeah, really, really rich topics. Oh, guys, we do have some internal news. LMG Clips is a new channel that we just started. Actually, a couple people found it already. Oops, I just searched for LMG Chips. LMG Clips. Oh, man, this is going to bring up a bunch of light machine gun, like, ammunition and stuff, isn't it?

Oh, here we go. We'll have to take that over. Oh, no, it's there. Oh, wow, look at that. They've already got stuff on it and stuff so lmg clips is gonna have um just little snippets from the wan show or from oh it's mixed yeah cool just like uh other videos so it won't all be me necessarily sweet yeah huh this is pretty cute. So we actually have one of the writers that we hired in the last round,

but that is still working on a visa from the old UK there, is doing this for us, going through the WAN show and kind of time stamping out the things that are good, and then we're kind of doing batches of thumbnails. So the idea is that if you don't feel like watching the entire WAN show, I realize I'm talking to completely the wrong audience right now, people who literally just watch the whole show, the entire WAN show, then this is a way to kind of get some highlights.

And it won't just be WAN show, but it'll be other stuff too. In the future, we may move WAN show off of the main LTT channel because it's been kind of a boat anchor on the performance of the channel for quite some time and as far as we know the concept of momentum on a YouTube channel is very real so this will be a way to kind of keep up to date even if you know you stop seeing WAN Show in the place that you're accustomed to seeing it so that that's going to be pretty cool. And then other than that, it's just Super Chats. I feel like I should go through some Super Chats with y'all.

What have we got in here? Why is that under the Viewer Activity tab? I don't know. Isn't it madness? Kyle Driver says the next Xbox is going to be revolutionary. Get it? 360? Get it? Aiden, when are you going to build a PC?

I don't know. All the time? Revolutionary get it 360 get it get it get it Aiden when are you going to build a PC I? Don't know all the time Thanks Joseph, thanks Brad Schilling Melissa I need a wireless white mouse Doesn't logitech have like a G. Whatever the three or whatever there was we had them in the most recent scrapyard wars Logitech 30 G303. 303 white. I think.

No. G305, I think, is available in white. Is that what I said the first time? I don't remember. Yeah, the G305 is available in white. Get the G305 Lightspeed white. Yeah, there we go. That's the one you want.

Okay. Not even too expensive, considering it's a very good mouse. Yeah, it's a super good mouse, and it's like 70 Canadian, so like, what's that, like 50, 55 US? Yeah, go check it out. Ilya, please read Super Chats like Paul and Kyle do. Frank, new Xbox is a crappier Corsair 1 but black. Actually, it's probably a pretty fast Corsair 1,

given that it's using GPU technology that doesn't exist yet. It also looks pretty sharp. Nope says, at the DC Auto Show, kids next to me were cracking jokes about needs more RGB when they saw LEDs under the hood. Is that a knock to a at the rad fan mimicking me? Thank you for that. Baja Truck Guy, I have an R5 2600.

Would 3600 be a good buy? For heck yeah, if you want more CPU performance. Rortex, how's it feel to be the most recurring face second only to the host on the game awards? Did you see the clips of of me during the game awards? I didn't know you had anything to do with the game awards. I never have before and I might never again, but Samsung Wanted someone to produce some clips talking about the benefits of their QLED TVs for gaming. And they've actually got some really good features, so like their auto low latency mode,

low input lag, just HDR, blah, blah, blah, all the stuff that's like great for a great gaming experience. So I actually, I took all of their marketing materials, a lot of which was like, yeah, this isn't making it into three 30-second cuts, sorry. I just took out a bunch of stuff. And then we did...

Did I spit on you? A little bit. It's all good. So we shot them here in the studio, but we did it up nice. I wore a suit, still sandals. I think there's one clip where you can see that I'm definitely... Okay, so I saw that picture. All right. And then they ran the three clips, just like during the Game Awards, Still sandals okay, I think there's one so where you can see that I'm so okay, so I saw that picture all right

And then they ran the three clips just like during the game awards talking about Samsung QLED TVs and the good gaming technology That they have in them and okay, so people were memin it up like my Twitter Exploded while those were going up it was pretty cool Even though it was just like, you know, pimping Samsung TVs, as opposed to having anything actually at all to do with the Game Awards. Well, that's why I was surprised. It was like, why would you have anything to do with Game Awards? Michael says, if I knit you guys hats, would you wear them once on the show?

Full disclaimer, I am terrible at knitting. I don't know, Michael. Not a good sale right there. Hairtrigger, love seeing lines and Luke working together. Great dynamic shout out. I guess you got it. Chris Tarling, people, guys, if you're sending super chats now, we're probably not going to get to it.

The time to send super chats was earlier in the show. Yeah. Love your vids. I have an HTC Vive. What VR headset would you consider to be the best upgrade? I mean, honestly, the best upgrade i mean honestly the only upgrade from the vibe the only clear upgrade is an index sorry vive pro greater resolution doesn't up the frame rate though um i've tried pretty much all the different headsets the index was the first one that's floored me since tried pretty much all the different headsets. The Index was the first one that's floored me since pretty much originally trying VR headsets.

Yeah. It's actually a very noticeable difference. I haven't actually tried the new HTC one. I reached out about getting a review sample, and I just realized now that they said yes, but then just never sent one. So I don't have one of those. So yeah, apparently the tracking sucks, though.

But I haven't tried it myself, so I can't really speak to it. Kind of ruins it for me. Seeker says, we're just going to skip over that the PS5 is a toilet seat. Yeah, for now. For now. Hair Trigger, I blame various narcotics for that typo. He typed like instead of Luke. You just rolled right over it.

Yeah, yeah, I don't even, I don't read typos. It typed like instead of Luke. You just rolled right over it. Yeah, yeah. I don't even, I don't read typos. It's kind of like how I don't see ads. Rationalizer. Bring the full Abyss setup to LTX. That's a sweet idea. Yeah, we should totally do that. It's a $35,000 listening setup.

Headphones are five grand. The DAC is like, you know, five to eight grand. Because you'd need like a listening booth. Yeah, they're open backed. We would have to have some kind of... Remember the Sennheiser booth that they had at CES that one year? I'm going to get back to you on that

because this could be a great way to kill two birds with one stone. We've been wanting to build like a sound chamber for testing fans and stuff for a while. So if we could get someone to sponsor the booth and pay for us to build that chamber and then we just bring it back to the studio when we're done. Nice. a take a memo can we uh can we do that

the look there was perfect let chad know um rezz rezzo says xboxes have been pcs from the beginning that's true the original one was a pentium 3. I think our point is they're just really accepting it now. Yeah, they're just like definitely actually PCs. Karsten says, I'm in Thailand for a vacation. Yesterday the translator recognized my LTT shirt

and asked me about it. How cool is that? Very cool. Pretty sweet. Scooty, do you guys think you will receive either of the new consoles for a sponsored video? Probably not sponsored, but both Sony and Microsoft have had us on their seeding list for the last couple of console launches.

PS4, PS4 Pro. I also think, like, not just mine, but I think our console content's actually been pretty solid. Yeah, I think it's been solid. Like our Switch Lite video, I was really happy with. I thought we covered it really well. Yeah, Nintendo even supports us, too. So they've been pretty good about it. We got our Switch Lite video. I was really happy with it. I thought we covered it really well. Yeah, Nintendo even supports us too. So they've been pretty good about it. We got our Switch Lite pretty late.

Their Canadian division is a little slow. It's always like that. Yeah. Alexander, thanks for the great Canadian content. Appreciate you too, fam. R on the Black Fox. Aaron the Black Fox. Normally I catch a VOD

or start watching from the beginning when you're 40 minutes in. Thanks for all the content. Encourage me to build my first PC some three years ago. Stay awesome. East Coast Gamers says, here's some Canadian love from Halifax. 100 Canadian dollars.

WTF? Look up to you as a YouTuber. Hope you have a Merry Christmas. Thank you. Appreciate it. Gaptooth Granny. Just upgraded to Ryzen. Get an RTX card now or wait I Would probably just go for it now

honestly like I Mean next gen there's gonna be like a 2080 ti super that's in the rumor mill but like actually next gen next gen I don't think it's coming probably till q2 next year. Don't quote me on that. It might be sooner. You never know Liam says why don't you come down to sell so why don't i come down to bellingham for scrapyard wars uh it's not really about that it's just like it's more hassle for very little benefit america and canada are not that different if we were going to do like a like a crazy location scrapyard wars it wouldn't be in the states yeah we we've done one in the states and it it really wasn't that weird i also just don't know if we're

going to do another one at this point um you know some of it was we made some mistakes this time around but some of it i think people might just be done with the format um tommy gun says i was pissed about your 5g video i'm in the u.s t-mobile sinks millions into 5g and in germany their home market they do nothing no 5g no fiber and Germany, their home market, they do nothing. No 5G, no fiber. And the state paid them taxpayer money to do so. Now, I don't actually know how related T-Mobile US and Germany are. Do you? I'm not sure.

They're D-Telecom over there, aren't they? I can't remember. I can't remember exactly how it works over there, but that's brutal. Sorry to hear that. I was actually really disappointed in a lot of the comments on the t-mobile video i get that people were upset it was sponsored or whatever else but there were so many people that said things that i didn't cover in the video except that i did and were definitely in the video they were like well you didn't even mention that unless you use millimeter wave 5g is not like crazy fast i watched i actually did 15 seconds yeah and you

didn't say and i'm outraged yes um so yes it was sponsored by t-mobile but the thing is is like we were up front it's sponsored by t-mobile like what do you want us to do would you rather we upload some video talking about t-mobile where we don't disclose that it's sponsored by t-mobile what do you guys want from us um and yeah they're they're d telecom like and like how else was i going to be going down there to check that out like i don't just fly to new york for no reason unfortunately um i think your wife wants you to go oh yeah i need to go. Okay, there were a couple other crazy super chats. Brandon asks, did you wear shoes for the Samsung videos? Answer really. No.

T says, I have enjoyed watching since NCIX, learned how to build computers, now I own and operate a server hosting service. Well, that's cool. Sweet. Thanks for that. Sir Myself, hey guys, how about a bundled offer for the BetaSquad shirt and a month or two of Floatplane membership? Wow, we'd have to link together the back-end systems of those two things

if they had This is not the cleanest thing ever if they had accounts already and we were able to gather their emails We could do it pretty easily Okay, they'd have to like have accounts already No promises Jason Johansson says bought, had to work out of town, couldn't pick it up at Canada Post. What happens to it after the fact? Oh, man.

I guess you'd have to contact Canada Post about that. It might end up back at us at some point. And I have no idea how that works. Email the merch store support on lttstore.com. Mr. Idnetguy2004 sent $200. I'm a huge fan. Sent you an email of my setup. Would love to meet

you someday. Head to LTX, yo! You're spending money on Super Chats. You gotta spend that money on a plane ticket! Anyway, yeah, nice to, thanks for the Super Chats anyway, though, but yeah, see you at LTX. I mentioned you on Twitter anyway yeah nice to thanks for the thanks for the super chats anyway though but yeah see you at LTX

holy I mentioned you on Twitter of my setup oh man I get so many mentions on Twitter dude like it's a miracle

that I see any of them at all but come to LTX yeah bring your phone show me a picture of your setup yeah love to see it

alright thanks guys for tuning in to the WAN show we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. 1,300 viewers, you guys are nuts. Thank you so much. Really appreciate y'all.

Okay, so how do I end this? Right, okay. So on YouTube, I click end stream. Bye YouTube. Are you sure you wanna end it? Yes.