The WAN Show - Today is My Last Day as CEO

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

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What's up, everyone? Welcome to the WAN Show. We've got a great show lined up for you guys today. Of course, one of the big topics is it's the end of an era. This is officially my last day as the CEO of Linus Media Group, which is both a little hard to process and really exciting. So I can talk a little bit about that. Maybe we'll do some Q and a, since I still haven't done that flow play excuse of Q and a, uh, sorry, sorry. I will do it in other news. Maybe you shouldn't do Q and a because of that. YouTube is now offering you a stellar deal, free, free videos. If you've got ad blocker enabled,

and after that you're blocked you're done we're going to be talking about this as well what else we got luke uh i should have been more prepared for this as per usual we launched a new channel you've been sitting there for an hour and a half waiting for me i didn't think of which two topics you wanted to talk about no i did uh even if i do though you take them. So, GameLinked, new channel launched. Actually great. Already exploded. Going to get a silver play button already.

Going well. The first video is number six on trending. It's awesome. I'm excited. You should be, too. Moving on. We have other things. I'm going to pick this one.

I have no idea what it's about. Hashtag Milkgate. Wow. That's a really small topic. Is it? But, sure. I guess we'll make sure to address it oh okay i see what it is now i'm actually extremely not interested in that so i'm gonna move forward uh oh here we go i love it at an ai topic game publisher fires staff Fires staff, hires AI editor. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go, Dan. Dan. I was also not prepared. So this is it tomorrow well not tomorrow because tomorrow is canada day statutory holiday do you have a hat too luke uh yeah jessica our wan show writer provided us with like canada trucker hats to wear during the show i'm not sure if mine is going to last the whole show, but it's very stylish. I am liking the sparkle. Tomorrow is a statutory holiday,

but the day after that, our new CEO, Mr. Taron Tong, will be starting. It's not really a jarring, okay, this day is the last day, and everything's going to change. It's not really going to be like that. There's going to be a transition period. He's not even going to be in office full time, like five days a week until probably sometime next year, just because of some immigration

challenges and that sort of thing. But this is, this is it. And I've, I've had a lot of time to think about, you know, what's going to change. But, you know, realistically, what I would like to do is kind of open it up to you guys for a little bit of q&a, not merch message q&a, we'll get to merch messages later. Of course, if you want to ask questions, you can do it with a merch message lttstore.com in the checkout, you just fill out the little merch message box. And then when you complete your order, it'll go to our producer Dan, who I can't show you because I don't have a stream deck in front of me, but hey, there he is. What's up, producer Dan? And he will go through and curate some for me and Luke to talk about later. Man, the number of people that have

asked me about it today, I have to confess that this week has been so busy and I have been feeling so crummy. I think I'm just kind of jet lagged and wasn't sleeping enough for my trip to New York that I actually didn't realize until multiple people asked me how I was feeling today. And I was like, pretty good. Like I'm tired. You know, people don't ask me how I'm feeling today. Generally speaking, I think they care. You know, I pay them to care or whatever, right? Haha. Slash ask guys, I'm kidding. But more than one person sort of went out of their way.

And then finally, it was Mark, our editor, Mark, who actually said, how are you feeling? It's your last day as CEO today. I'm like, oh, right. There's definitely a few things that have changed already. And I'd say the biggest one is that when i don't want to deal with something i'm just cc'ing taron and going when he starts he can deal with this have you encountered any of that luke uh no but i have encountered running into problems and just not even contacting you in the first place and just talking to him directly because that's what you told me to do. Okay, then the system works.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Has it been helpful? Honestly, honestly, honestly, I want like, you know, we're doing this live, Luke. We're doing this live. He doesn't even get a chance to defend himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have appreciated the conversations. I think we're actually quite aligned on a lot of stuff. I've brought up some concerns and some ideas, and he's listening to the ideas. I don't know that he's taking them. He doesn't have to take them, whatever. But he seems, you know, invested in making things better,

which is cool. He seems to care, and he's listening to stuff. But part of the problem has been that he, I mean, he's not full-time yet, right? So like he can't really action a lot of these items yet. So I'm excited for him to be here full-time all the time instead of like every time I call him, he's like in an airport or something.

So it'll be nice that he like actually has time to dedicate to this. So like, we'll see. Uh, but at least from, from my point of view, the process is already working. There's been stuff where I've been like, this needs work. And either I would bring it to you in the past, or sometimes just not even bother. Cause I know you don't have the time to deal with it anyways. Um, but now there is like someone who that is their whole job is to deal with some of these things. So it's like, cool. Yeah. Caffuddled and Constantine607 in floatplane chat here have both asked kind of similar questions. How relieved are you that you can focus more on what you find fun? How much extra time do

you feel that you'll get? And I got to say, I actually don't know right now, because I'm still making a lot of decisions. I have extra side projects that are an additional drain on my time right now. For example, okay, I was late for quite late for work one day this week, because I was, this is pretty exciting. I was doing a walkthrough of the shell building for the badminton center. They're getting ready to hand over keys in about two weeks. And we, we walked through the whole thing to kind of look for any deficiencies and any of that kind of stuff. It's not a CEO duty, that's for sure. But it definitely took time that I wasn't able to spend making videos. So I think that part of the challenge over the next little bit is going to be figuring out ways to use the little bits of time that I'm freeing

up from CEO stuff to train the new CEO to kind of make decisions, if not exactly like I would, make decisions that I would agree with ultimately at some point. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I don't think that's going to be a big problem. And then the other thing is figuring out how to smooth our production processes. I've seen so much feedback from the community about this transition that honestly is sort of confused. And when I say confused, I mean that people are confused. The day after we made the announcement, actually, I don't know if it was the day after or a couple of days after,

but we uploaded a video building a $100,000 computer to play Minecraft, right? And the number of comments on that video talking about how great it was to have, you know, Linus with his energy back and, you know, just focusing on what's exciting to him. Guys, there were a bunch of delays, okay? From the various parties that were involved in that video.

It was shot literally two to three months prior to when we uploaded it we actually hadn't even got a signed job offer from Darren yet so there's a lot of people kind of seeing what they want to see and in the same way as we've gotten close to the deadline I've actually seen a lot of people talking about how they're noticing like a difference in me, like maybe I'm nervous about it or something. I'm like, guys, not only are you operating with a significant tape delay between when I film a video and when you guys are seeing it, but you're operating with a super inconsistent tape delay. So if we go through the last handful of videos on the channel, I'm just going to put a quick filter in here for views, let's say greater than a million. Our studio was a huge waste of money. That was probably only about a three to four day turnaround.

That one was really fast because Riley really wanted to get this channel launched. And so we pushed, we made it happen. The RTX 4060 review, that was like a three-day turnaround. But then we get into something like the, okay, the $800 solid copper cooler. That was probably two or three weeks. Only you can fix GPU pricing. Here's how. That was about two weeks. So it's all over. Oh, the framework factory. Man factory man that was so we shot that at computex that was two weeks as well and so it's it's just all over the place and you can't read too much into it based on the upload date is all i can really say um zero point asks a ceo does taron have higher fire capacity over employees of lmg meaning he could technically fire Linus while Linus is the owner. Okay, so that's a bit complicated because while Terran is my boss,

and I do report into him as the primary shareholders, Yvonne and I are also his bosses and can also fire him. So if he tried to fire me, I would need to hear a really strong argument for why. I could be wrong about this, but I think on paper, he could absolutely fire you, but then you could just fire him and then hire yourself back. Yeah, I could appoint myself as CEO. Yeah. So like... Which I really don't want to do. No, but it would be meaningless right like it doesn't

matter yeah john knee asks can you elaborate a little bit more on why taran and not someone else at lmg the honest truth and i know lmg people are going to watch this so i better have a really good hr friendly answer honest truth okay it's not going to be that great and it's not going to be that hr friendly but it is going to be honest the The honest truth is that LMG is a super, super young company. Internally, I'm old. And I'm going to be 37 this year. Like I am one of the oldest people on staff, definitely top like five to 7%. like five to seven percent so think about that right who internally actually has the real world experience being out there seeing how things are done and who would be able to come in and approach this task with a balance of you know doing things a way that you know Yvonne and I are going to feel is right and fair and just and bringing new ideas to the table. And there's just, you know, there's not a lot of people that I would trust to take on

that job. And if not him, I was probably just going to keep doing it myself. Because the truth is, it's not like I'm terrible at it. I've set the strategic vision for this company for 10 and a half years, right? Like I clearly don't totally suck. I do think there's some issues in regards to, there's this topic that comes up in business space, which is like the CEO that gets you to 2 million and the CEO that gets you to 20 million and the CEO that gets you to 200 million,

all this kind of stuff. Like they're very different people. They're very different approaches, all this kind of stuff. Like they're, they're very different people. They're very different approaches, all that type of stuff. I do think we have some of those problems and like, regardless of who's steering the ship, I'm excited about Taron coming in because I think he might be able to bring better approaches. I think a lot of our stuff is stuck in the like earning 2 million range, which doesn't work at our company size anymore. Um, so I think, I think there's things that like his experience at some of these big companies, Corsair, Dell,

et cetera, is going to be very helpful for a bunch of people who have been working within our own bubble for a decade. But I also don't think vision experience from outside sources. I also don't think that it's going to be just all money grubbing. Just make more money, make more money, make more money. No, but you have to, to a certain degree, or else you can't keep the lights on and pay people. So there's the give and take, right?

Yeah. I had people internally asking me about that as well. Like, hey, when Taron comes in, is the first thing he's going to do going to be to turn off the snacks bigot? No. Is he going to get rid of be to, you know, turn off the snacks bigot? You know, is he is he gonna is he gonna get rid of summer of fun? Is he gonna is he gonna cut back on on perks and benefits and stuff like that? And I'm sitting here going, if anything, my expectation is that Taryn is running this as an employee for the employees. Right? Yvonne and I are the ones who if we save a dollar, take it home at the end of

the year, not Taryn. So if anything, if we give him the mission of be a human, grow the company, but do it right. Be kind, be fair, be a be a be not a monster. I mean, that's one of the things that Yvonne and I say a lot. You know, people will ask us about something that's not technically policy or whatever else. And, you know, we'll just sit here and go, well, we're not, we're not monsters. You know, like if someone doesn't have any, any time off left or, or whatever, but something happens that's not technically bereavement leave, legally speaking, but is really awful. You know, we try to be real people, right? So my expectation is that he will continue to, to continue to run the company that way. And he will actually have less of a conflict of interest when it comes to making financial decisions, because he will not be

personally enriched by saving a nickel for the company. Um says, this is from Flow of Plain Chat, don't forget, Linus is an actor. Don't kid yourself that you understand exactly what he's feeling by the image you see on the screen. I would say the closest that you guys get to real talk is the LAN show, which is, I think, why you guys are here. But yeah, obviously, I'm not lying to you. I have integrity, but I am playing a character to a degree in our videos.

Like when I, when I do something, you know, grossly negligent with a water cooling loop, I know better. Having some fun, just chill, you know, it's okay. And, and the funny thing is like luke i actually don't know anymore am am i an okay actor or am i not because the community is all over the place on this one i have a hard time with this because i think i've known you for too long so like i'll watch some video and i'll be able to like see in your eyes that you like don't care about the thing but all the comments are like wow it's so awesome that linus is so into this thing

and i was like is he though i don't know part of that though is you get to talk to me off camera yeah and so you can extrapolate like well he didn't care about the other six things that are like this thing so this is probably not right yeah but the funny thing is but i mean i get more oh sorry i was just gonna say if i think about it more that might be an argument for you being a good actor because the comments were convinced so like yeah i get more comments about what a bad actor i am when I am not acting honestly and I think part of it is that the average YouTube viewer simply cannot tell the difference between acting and not acting mm-hmm like what was that what was that awful apology video this week with the ukulele videos like that will typically have like a greater than 50 like dislike ratio we can't see

it anymore but like the um the suicide forest video had a greater than 50 like dislike ratio yeah over half of people were like this is a good apology right like so i'm looking at it going, I think people just can't tell, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, I don't know. Grimoire asks, Linus, what about when you drop stuff? Are you acting then? Okay.

I am a bit of a butterfingers. Yeah? Is that 100% of what's going on? I make problems worse for myself when I am in a hurry or I am inattentive. And when I am hosting a video, I promise you that most of my attention is somewhere else. I'm thinking about what I'm saying now. I'm thinking about what to say next. I'm also thinking about where's my camera operator. What, what, what zoom do they have on the camera right now?

So how is the shot framed? Where is any co-host that's with me? Are they talking? Are they talking when they're not in the frame? Is this something where I have a chance to stop? And am I going to remember exactly the intonation so that I can stop the shoot, have the camera turn, get that? Or are they like in a weird spot where they're like halfway out of frame?

I have a lot on my mind when I'm hosting a video. And so that makes the problem worse. Uh-huh. Yeah. Is that the whole answer? The thing is, even when you're reading a script, right, there's a lot to think about. You don't just, there's a really good exclusive on Floatplane.

You guys should go find it because I didn't really realize what I was doing at the time. But the feedback on this video was so good that I think based on the community's response, I think it's worth watching. But when Ryan Shrout and Tap, Tom Peterson from Intel's graphics division were here, I did a little coaching clinic on how to host. And this is even with Ryan Shrout, who's hosted a lot. And people were like, oh, you know, that's really good. That's actually really helpful. So the point I'm trying to make is there's a lot on my mind. And it's not always easy for you guys to tell, you know, what's going on.

And sometimes I feel like people see what they want to see. So in our 40-60 video, you see how I'm completely not giving you a chance to get in here and I'm deflecting to a different subject? I was thinking about that the whole time I was talking. I was thinking about that the whole time I was talking. So in our 40-60 video, the reason that my read of the A-roll was so crap was that it was never intended to be used. Our brilliant plan for that video was that I would review the script

while I was on vacation in New York, and then I would just record word for word with the intonation and the pacing exactly like it would be, but just on any piece of crap camera and microphone. I would send that clip back to the editor who could then integrate all the graphs and visuals and all that stuff. And then I was supposed to land back in the studio Tuesday afternoon, which would give us time to reshoot it. And then because it would be basically exactly the same, plonk that onto the timeline, export, and nobody's working too late that evening. Because it was a Wednesday morning embargo. Unfortunately, my flight was delayed by a lot, by six hours, and then another hour, hour and a half on the tarmac. And then this one killed me

because I was going to be on time for badminton. And then they slowed down in the air. They slowed down from 1500 miles an hour to 700 kilometers an hour to 750 kilometers an hour. And the time to arrival went up by like 40 minutes. And then the baggage dispenser got jammed. Anyway, I made it, but I only made it for like the last half. It was pretty annoying. So that footage was never meant to be seen. But then I've got people extrapolating all this stuff from it, that I couldn't be bothered or that I don't even care anymore, and I'm just reading whatever script people put in front of me. Here, example. like here example um oh that is completely the wrong folder oh that's the right folder pending nvidia rtx 4060 review so just to give you guys some idea like how much i change things um here we go i think v3 is the one that I got.

Anyway, Luke, do you want to talk about what you wanted to talk about? Because I know you're not going to drop it. No, I can't. I mean, you filibustered long enough. We can just move on if you want. No, it's fine. I think sometimes there's... You won't necessarily intentionally drop something, but you'll put yourself in a situation where it's very likely um that's fair yeah i i think sometimes like if you the the one that always kind of gets me is on the stage at ltx 2017 when you dropped the like. It's like, yeah, except you weren't opening it on a table.

It was kind of like you were literally... It's like, yeah, I didn't purposely go base jumping. I just hung myself 90% over the cliff. And then it just happened. I don't know why. I feel like that's kind of a thing. I think we should suggest this to Jessica as a segment for WAN Show.

Luke guesses if the drops were real or kind of guided. Because I got to be honest with you, that was not intentional. I have a hard time with that. I have a hard time with that. I wanted to show... So I'm on the stage right

and we didn't have cameras there was no camera for me to 2017 i didn't have an overhead what 2017 was jank lts 2017 was uh it was what it was we did what we could yeah i anyway i so i didn't have any cameras so in order to show show people, I wanted to tilt it forward, and I didn't realize just how curved the packaging was. So my intention, if you actually watch really carefully, I intend to let it fall. really carefully i intend to let it fall but i intended to let it fall out of the top into my hand you kind of get what i mean just the level of risk in this situation man like when it slid out the bottom i wasn't ready for it i can accept you saying that you didn't intend for it to like

hit the ground but you still ground it didn't hit the ground i caught it whatever it hit or what however it worked or i don't know it's been a long time i caught it i caught it i just i feel like you put yourself in these situations because of the views and even if it's not even if it's not on camera because you're saying this wasn't on camera the reaction from the crowd was big like i feel like i feel like it's a it's an entertainer mentality no i i lied it fell it hit the ground okay i'm watching it right now so okay i i've got it up i've got it up so what i intended i have my right hand there and i'm about to yeah no no no i had it tilted more vertical and it didn't come out and then i actually adjusted it back

so that i could go back to okay yeah yeah and that's when it fell i remember watching this and the second i saw you tilt the box up i was like that laptop's gone immediately and i was like why is he dropping it and then i saw you do your thing and then it flew out and I was like, okay. I don't know, man. So just to give you guys some idea of exactly what it is that I do here. Our intro went from 188 words to when I was done with it, 145. So I trimmed literally a quarter of the fat from it. It's not that I just, you know, review the script and then read it. The rest of the video went from 1862 to 1431 again very aggressive cutting and this is my superpower i did that

without losing any valuable information um so don't yeah which people are asking like which video like what's i feel like we're missing. This is the RTX 4060. Okay. Yeah. So just want to like give you guys, give you guys an idea of how this actually works. And my writing team is great. We have a world-class team here at LMG. I, I'm taking absolutely nothing away from them. But guys, you got to understand they're involved in one, maybe two videos a week at most, whereas I'm touching 10 plus most of the time. So I just see it a lot more and the meta changes so fast. That's something that I think

that is going to be really good when Taren comes coming back around to our actual topic of conversation where he can focus on the business stuff and I can really focus on this creative stuff. Because there's stuff too, like you want to be able to focus on creative stuff more. And I would also say that like, I'm not saying you did that bad of a job, my dude, but you didn't necessarily have a ton of time to do some of the CEO-y type of things, right? So like having someone who can really dive into that type of stuff and actually has the time to do it is going to be nice. Because there's even some things that like wasn't that important. So maybe someone didn't bother you with it. But like if there was someone who it was their whole job, it's like, yeah, it could be cool if that was like worked on or whatever else. So I don't know.

I think it'll be very good. I think you and Yvonne are like hyper over leveraged and reducing how hyper over leveraged you are is probably gonna be just like good for everyone. So yeah, I think it's good. A couple more questions from people. New York Islanders asks, is anyone unable to immediately upgrade to the plus subscription on floatplane? I want to get some LTX merch and get the digital pass. So if you could just message support and if

there's anyone else that's having the same problem, we can get you sorted out. That shouldn't be a problem. So yeah. And B Trombone asks, is there anyone you don't have to cut down at all on the scripts? Realistically, the most experienced writers are the ones that are the lowest touch. It just, it's different. I'd say a really good example of someone who came in day one as an experienced, good writer is Nick Plouffe. Okay. So he came in with a ton of writing experience under his belt and I would sit down and look, I'm, I'm calling him out because he's actually grown extremely fast. Like I am not by any means down on the guy right now. Um, he's done great, but he came in and I would sit there and I'd go, sir, you wrote two intros.

That's a very written media thing to do is you have like your teaser thing and then you have some more BS so that people have to scroll below the fold and they can load more ads. It's just a habit. It's not anything he did wrong. It's just kind of the format of written media. And then I would take entire paragraphs and I would just cut them. I'd be like, okay, did this change the content? And he'd read it and he'd be like, nope. Or I would take descriptions, really jargony, how many megahertz and whatever else. And I'd say, what if I just said, here's the specs and we had a slide. And he's like, yep, that would be all the same information. And those habits take a long time to break. Writing for YouTube is just not the same as writing for anything else. And I think that, you know, we've seen that time and time again,

when traditional celebs try to succeed on the platform there's been a handful that have like really taken off you know looking at someone like a jack black for example who's just beloved uh you know whether he's game streaming or in a movie or whatever right um but the vast majority yeah not necessarily not necessarily all right what do you want to talk about next mr luke uh should i pick it i've been answering merch messages i can grab a topic if we want to switch it uh do we want to do the youtube probably a lot of merch messages today hey there there's a couple so i was just trying to get it headed off early you know uh youtube did we talk about did we talk about the uh the big merch drops yet should we do that now? Because they're kind of big.

Can you screen share? We might as well. Oh, can you show them? I don't have them. I don't have them. Have what? I don't have the PCMR merch. Give me.

Give me. Hello. Is this it? We just have this? Because I know there's more stuff than this. There's more stuff. It's on the website. Ah, you have to go to the website.

Okay. You can go to the website. LTT store. Dot com. My laptop. There we go. PCMR collection. The PCMR collection.

May your frame rates be high and your temperatures low. We have, as you can see here, a sweater, a mouse mat, a t-shirt, and a water bottle. Because, of course, we have to have all of those things. That's how the store works. They are unsurprisingly our favorites right now. The hoodie. I think this is a unique pattern. So this isn't like the color block,

is it? Nope. Nope. Yeah. Unique pattern. PCMR stuff. Is this in collaboration? Like,

do we have to work with PCMR to do this? Yeah. Interesting. Isn't that cool? Yeah. So it's the same great shirts. Actually, the hoodie is new. I don't believe we have a zip-up like that.

The water bottle is the same great water bottle you guys know and love, now in PCMR. That's cool. The saying on the back. That's pretty sweet. I like that. And the mouse pad, just a super clean black and yellow mouse pad, PCMR branding in the top left. Oh, and there's a pin, an enamel pin, if people are into that. I missed that one,

which is why I said, oh. So we're doing this as a drop. So if you guys place an order, your whole order will ship once all the PCMR items are in. All of them say backordered. That is not actually true, but we are going under promise over deliver here. Truthfully, I don't remember which ones are here already and which ones are coming in a little bit so if you just order it you will get it by the time we say you will get it but some of them may actually ship a little bit earlier

uh i like this back view of the sweater i don't actually know why you can't see it very easily on the stream can i no i got it there you go let's go luke i like the like yellow bar at the bottom that lines up with your arms i think that actually looks really cool i don't know like stuff like that but yeah the collab is with the subreddit pcmr collection very cool and i believe i'm gonna have to go to ltx expo.com but i believe pedro from pcmr is actually going to be at ltx that would make sense that would line up yes yep pedro's gonna be there cool along with basically everyone and their dog should we just do all the announcements right now uh there are we might as well. There are other announcements.

I'm trying to find it in the doc. I don't know why. Here we go. Yeah, okay. So there's the new merch. PCMR collection. We mentioned all of that. Floatplane LTT supporter plus tier $10 subs can now order LTX exclusive merch.

All orders including these items will ship out after LTX. Keep that in mind. That means you won't get them for a bit. Where do you order that stuff again? I'm probably going to screw this up, but you have to link your... I haven't actually seen it work, so that's why I'm going to screw this up.

But it should be on the actual store and you just link your account i'm sure conrad is screaming right now um ltt story nick too here it is so it's a collection that makes sense so ltt store.com slash collections slash ltx dash exclusive um or yeah okay it's just a button at LTX-exclusive. Or, yeah, okay. It's just a button at the top of the store. So at the top of the store, I'm going to go to my laptop. You can see, ah, it's covered right now. No. Ah.

Oh, there it is. There it is right there. You can see it for a second. It's behind all the merch messages that are coming in. But, yeah, there's home gear clothing all products ltx exclusive and then if you click on this you can see all the stuff i love the whale plush i think that's cute as heck i'm also really yeah sarah outdid herself oh there's a whale keychain that looks awesome yeah yeah you can grab these things you have to be on the the ten dollar a month

uh or just the like supporter plus tier if you're a yearly subscriber uh and then you you link your floatplane account to the ltt store it verifies that you're subscribed and all that fun stuff and then you can order these things and they will ship after uh after ltx and then you'll have your cool stuff i i'm pretty into like this whole design the like nebula kind of dark with the purples and reds and whatnot i think it looks awesome but i know right anyways the team did such a great job if people ask like why do you have so many people working there who do you think makes this stuff doesn't come from air speaking of how many people are working here, if you want a job, there are a ton of postings on the website,

including to come work with me. Are you a front-end developer and you want to work on Floatplane? Come apply. We're hiring two different people, two different front-end developers for Floatplane. There are also tons of other positions. A writer, which is engineering focus

for Linus Media Group. A mechanical designer slash engineer for Creator Warehouse. A tax and financial analyst slash focus for Linus Media Group. A mechanical designer slash engineer for Creator Warehouse. A tax and financial analyst slash accountant for Linus Media Group. A social media coordinator for Linus Media Group. It's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot. We're hiring over 10 positions right now.

At this point, we hire so much that if you want a job here, I would just load this web page up every once in a while. Because it's constantly changing. There's constantly people there and people at the company are starting to like vie for position in regards to getting their job postings shouted out. Um, so yeah, please, please apply. Um, we need you. Um, what else we got in here under announcements? There's so many announcements. What's going on? announcements there's so many announcements what's going on uh not a lot going on luke i'm going to jump to game linked yeah first video should we do an actual news topic should we do a news topic okay there is kind of a lot of announcements yeah let's break off for a second you want to talk about the youtube free videos yeah let's do it youtube is experimenting with

a new policy that limits ad block users to three videos before preventing them from accessing further content some users received a pop-up informing them of the change and telling them to either subscribe to youtube premium or whitelist the site uh we have a screenshot here's the wording it looks ad blockers violate youtube's terms of service. For everyone who was arguing with me about that, by the way... Moment of silence, because rip you. It looks like you may be using an ad blocker.

Video playback is blocked unless YouTube is allow listed or the ad blocker is disabled. Ads allow YouTube to stay free for billions of users worldwide. You can go ad free with YouTube premium and creators can still get paid from your subscription. And then there's two buttons, allow YouTube ads and try YouTube premium. This is going to generate some backlash okay so there was a little bit more here absolutely um wait was there no i was just talking about the screenshot youtube says users will receive several notifications requesting they allow ads and in extreme cases disable oh playback my dyslexia made that ad block instead of playback. And I was like, whoa. I thought they were going to use Chrome to disable the ad block.

But no, they will disable playback on accounts that don't comply. In other news, Twitter now appears to be blocking users from viewing content unless they log in. No logged out viewing. Can't get past blockless. Luke and I have talked about this for a long time. Can't get past Blockly. We've talked about this for a long time. Guys, the cold, hard, honest truth, guys, is that passive image-based ads do not pay to keep servers online.

They do not pay for people to work on websites or channels or games or any of the services that you use. That's not an opinion. That's math. They don't. They just don't. So that's why we ended up with all of these obnoxious.

That's why we ended up with all these obnoxious moving ads and talking ads. And that's why it's escalated. And that's why suddenly there's a war against ad blockers, because I don't know if you guys have noticed, but interest rates have gone. Free money from VCs has gone. And all of a sudden, these services that didn't really care how profitable they were, or at least cared only a little bit, are looking at their books going, or at least cared only a little bit are looking at their books going, oh, the free ride's over.

We can't just set our company valuation based on how many daily active users we have. That's not revenue. So you guys are seeing a change here. And I think, honestly, the backlash about this is in no small part, and boy, we're going for the hot takes today, but is in no small part due to entitlement from the viewer. We've gotten used to everything being free. That's what happened. Whether it ever should have been free, I mean, that's a longer conversation, but the way that it is now, we've spent a long time with things being free.

And now all of a sudden, the free lunch is gone. You know what was really interesting for me? I watched an old episode of The Simpsons the other night. I'm trying to remember what it's called. It's not from the golden age. It's kind of pre-golden age late season two it's called homer versus lisa and the eighth commandment which is like very very religious for modern tv but something that yeah you would see in the late 80s early 90s um and homer steals. He has a guy splice him in, and at the end of it, he comes around to that theft is wrong, which is obviously the message that any television

program is going to end with. The moral of the story is that stealing from a nameless, faceless corporation, we'll make some jokes about it, but it's still stealing. And Homer, you know, repents and turns off his free access because, you know, Lisa is worried about eternal damnation or whatever. And I'm looking at it going like, this is The Simpsons?

Also, people would freak if they aired this today. People would flip. Look how mad people were about what I said ages ago. And there's a lot of them are still mad. It's like, I don't know what to tell you. I never even went as far as The Simpsons. I never said, wow, you are breaking the eighth commandment, you know, which is like the rules to not go to hell. I did not go that far. I just said,

you need to be aware of what you're doing. It affects creators. It affects their income and you need to be aware of what you're doing. That's all I ever said. Never said, don't do it. We've even shown you guys how to do it. And it's been really interesting seeing people attack me for that hypocrisy. They've shown people how to do it. And then they say not to do it. Right. But you imagined the second part. That actually was something you imagined. You just have to know and accept. Yeah, I don't know. So this is complicated. Man, this is... Back in my day, pirates called themselves pirates.

I'm surprised they're doing this. Tell me this, Luke. Could they have done this five years ago? They already had immense market share with Chrome. It would be as simple for them as saying, okay, look, we're just going to break the functionality of ad blockers in Chrome, and that would eliminate a lot of ad blocking.

In fact, they've taken steps towards that. I actually suspect culture-wise, this might have gone over better if they did it five years ago, because there was a bunch of other sites doing very similar things back then. There are still some sites doing that today, but not as many. Yeah, it's kind of interesting doing it now. There is really no real YouTube competitor. There was some sites kind of thinking about it back then but not super seriously uh i know twitch

kind of tried a few years ago and then sort of gave up and uh i had some internal conversations with some people i won't name at twitch uh who basically were like yeah i mean they've kind of mastered vod and for us to be able to catch up with them in VOD is going to take an extreme amount of time, an extreme amount of money. And it's honestly just not worth it because they're so ridiculously far ahead. And that's, that's just, that's, yeah, that's just, that is a thing. And I don't really see anyone coming up against YouTube because to be able to come up against YouTube properly, you don't just need to make YouTube. You need to make one of the world's most effective ad platforms. Um, yeah, you have to do both at the same time. Absolutely. Yeah. And you're going to

have to do it in house. Cause anyone taking a cut on that is going to make it so much worse. So yeah, it's kind of rough. I honestly think a huge part of YouTube's problem is they suck at marketing premium. People in chat are like, oh, you said you wouldn't name it. Then you said Twitch. No, I don't know the people, the person at Twitch. Yeah. Um, shoot. What was I saying? Yeah. I think they do a really terrible job of marketing YouTube Premium. The number of people, I actually was tweeting at someone today who frankly, rightly has a bone to pick with YouTube, right?

Is YouTube perfect? No. But they basically said, let's see if i can find it yeah i'm aware of youtube premium but i'm sure the amount that creators are getting is not remotely what youtube is pocketing that is not true out of all of the major social platforms youtube is by far like by a country, the most equitable when it comes to sharing revenue with creators. It's not even close. There's a reason that major TikTokers, ex-Viners, major Twitch streamers, there's a reason that YouTube doesn't have to give them $100 million signing bonuses like Kik is handing out in order to draw people over to YouTube.

like kick is handing out in order to draw people over to youtube um they i gotta find some wood to knock on they actually do for the most part try to do right by creators they make a lot of mistakes absolutely and they can be outright incompetent sometimes but they give more youtube premium revenue to creators than they do to themselves. That simple. I've always found this kind of interesting. I know a lot of people that pay for Spotify premium. Yeah. I know you and me that pay for YouTube premium. I know no one else that pays for YouTube premium.

But YouTube premium does fantastic things for your YouTube viewership. And it also gives you YouTube music. Is YouTube Music as good as Spotify? No. But people will point out the cost of YouTube Premium as that being a really big negative. And of course it is. It's like $14 or something like that. It would be great to not have to spend 14 every month that would be fantastic but spotify for an individual uh is 10 bucks so it's it's four more dollars and you get all the the music is like maybe it's not as

feature rich as spotify it's two more premium is 12 a month canadian oh wow so it's not as feature rich as Spotify. It's two more dollars. YouTube Premium is $12 a month Canadian. Oh, wow. So it's two more dollars. Like that, man, for me, YouTube Premium wins that every time. I don't know. I don't really get it. Because like, okay, sure, Spotify is better or something. I've never really had it.

I am not a fan of a few things in YouTube music. But if I look up a song, it's there. And like, I don't, I don't want to pretend the product's perfect. Like I have a family plan, which is 23 Canadian a month covers up to five people, but sharing it with my kids is totally broken. So for example, when I want to allow my kids to sign into Sonos with their YouTube account, it can't because they have minor accounts, like kid accounts. And I'm sitting here going, hey, if this is a family product, and there's like, it comes up as some like G Suite permissions thing for me to change, except that you can't buy a family account with a G Suite account. You can only buy it with a personal account and a personal account can't change

G Suite permissions. I reported this like four months ago and just never got a reply. And I'm like, okay. So I guess my, if my, my kids are to have proper access to YouTube music through our Sonos speaker system, they will just have to, I'll have to flub their birthdates or something like that for a secondary account, at which point, oh, good. Now they've got access to full-fledged YouTube and everything in Chrome and I can't lock anything down. This is ridiculous, right? Yeah. Man, if you ever want to be frustrated, try to manage family accounts and family permissions from any of the major anything yeah exactly like all of those products seem to be developed by people

who do not have children have never used it and yeah to be clear i'm not dogging on people that have uh spotify i just find it interesting that YouTube premium seems to have such low, um, conversion. Like I feel like so few people get it. Um, but it, but it, it offers a lot. It feels like to me, it offers a ton. Um, and then you look at who doesn't have Spotify. Yeah, exactly. Spotify has like insane buy-in, like tons and tons and tons of people have Spotify. Um, and I understand it's like podcasts and music, but then I feel like a lot of the, uh, I've seen a bunch of, I didn't feel like this before. I've seen a bunch of comments in float plane right now, um, that people are saying that they have Spotify because of the

podcasts that are exclusively on Spotify. Um, so that's, that's interesting. People are saying you're a YouTuber though. Yeah, but I don't really watch our own content too much. I'm mostly watching other people. And I don't watch other people because I do YouTube stuff. I just watch other people because YouTube is like one of the best places on the internet to get any amount of information. I don't know. Some people saying they pay for both yeah i think that's not super common but yeah that was tactful yeah malvain in floatplane chat says as a tech dad so much rage in managing my kids permissions

yeah i didn't by default have permission to play multiplayer games with my kids even after i enabled their account accounts for online play they're my kids that should just be obvious we should we should all take that for granted you get ads on podcasts with spotify premium oh my god no idea oof i'm not into that uh the main reason why i have youtube premium is because of no ads um yeah anyways yeah let's move on um oh this one's kind of fun you want to do the Activision topic? Oh, sure. Anything that messes with cheaters is super A-OK in my book.

I see fake... I know you're sick, so I'm going to try to read most of the topics. I see fake people. Activision makes cheaters hallucinate. Call of Duty developers have introduced a new anti-cheat for Modern Warfare 2 and Warzone 2 that will introduce fake enemies called hallucinations that only cheaters can see this is similar to previous anti-cheat methods from last year in cod vanguard that rendered all legitimate players invisible to cheaters

the decoys can be used to punish and disorient cheaters but also to detect and confirm cheating. Interesting. That sounds like it's cool. The developers are also sorry. Now you're good. The developers are also retiring a different cheat mitigation called quicksand, which froze or slowed in game movement speed for cheaters because it unnecessarily impacted the game experience for normal players. Interesting.

These in game roadblocks are sometimes used instead of booting in order to study cheaters and the technology they for normal players. Interesting. These in-game roadblocks are sometimes used instead of booting in order to study cheaters and the technology they use to cheat. Yeah, I know there's quite a few games that they only do waves of banning. They don't just ban on detection because they need to sit there and try to study the cheat

that's being used for a little while. Well, if it's like, it's rats, right? You don't want to kill one rat, then another rat, then another rat, then another rat. you want to get the whole thing before they make more rats yeah i think the rats analogy is very very good here um valve banned over 40 000 players using third-party clients to cheat uh after they accessed a honeypot stage in dota 2 that was fantastic that was a very good story uh Which was a secret area invisible to normal players. Valve then fixed the exploit

they had been using. Until 2020, Fall Guys had a relatively forgiving cheater flagging system which would send persistent cheaters to Cheater Island where they could only

match against other cheaters, resulting in games where every single player simultaneously warps to the end. That's amazing. YouTuber Script Kid created fake cheating software. Oh, this was... I love these videos.

I actually love these videos. I've watched a bunch of them. YouTuber Script Kid created fake cheating software for CSGO that punishes users in-game. Example, causing them to throw a grenade at their own feet and unbinding the movement keys. He'll also make it so that the second you mouse mouse over an enemy it just throws all your guns on the ground like other stuff it's so funny uh it's funny to watch them freak out when it happens and

stuff too um but yeah very good oh yeah it mentions that right after that force them to throw their weapons on the ground uh or over the edge of the map um so good what is the value in shaming cheaters in this matter it's just fun screw them yeah it's hilarious i mean like they're unfairly you know targeting legitimate players and so why shouldn't they be unfairly targeted in absolutely everything that they do it is fairly targeted though absolutely screw it if you don't think it's unfair no i mean i i'd hate for a legitimate player to get caught in the crossfire right that's obviously the part of the conversation we have to have here but i think that's pretty rare and we're not exactly like

death rowing them right like they're you're just messing with their game so i think the the if this does happen to a legitimate player, the impact is relatively low. Here's a question for you, Luke. What would we do if we found someone cheating at Whaleland? Ooh. Do we actually pick up their computer, put it outside, tell them to leave? Do they have a one-year ban?

Do they have a lifetime ban? Because that's not cool. No no the fact that you ever thought it was cool and ever thought it was okay to do even once tells me everything i need to know about your character you know we're trying to do an in-person event here we're trying to have some fun like do they ever get to come back because someone else will take their place no offense everyone you know love you all and all of that but if we empty a seat at whale land another butt will be in it in no time i almost feel like it's a lifetime ban or the alternative is they have to make a public video that they put on their pre-existing social media accounts uh like saying that cheating is bad or whatever and then if they do that it becomes a one-year ban and they have they have to leave immediately

no matter what you're out of that event you're gone yeah they have to leave it up for a year yeah i think so yeah yeah because like there's there's there's there's different levels to this, right? Like, if I... I don't know. And I think it's unfair to determine for other people. But, like, if you're, like, 14 and you cheat in some video game, like, that doesn't...

I don't know. Your moral compass isn't 100% set up yet. You might just be kind of messing around. Like, you don't't know. Your moral compass isn't 100% set up yet. You might just be kind of messing around. You don't really know. But if I went to some LAN event and was trying to cheat to kill people in Halo CE or something, I should be lifetime banned.

There's different layers to this. You don't even have prizes. Who cares? And even if we did, who cares? We're trying to have fun. Yeah. And you're ruining the fun, so get out. I don't know.

But I do like the idea of there could be a path to redemption. And then when you come back, everyone's going to know. So good luck cheating again. And if you cheat again, obviously, it's lifetime forever. But yeah. I'm feeling a lot of people in float plane chat are are feeling a two year ban i think i'm feeling a two-year ban well okay do they know the context of the other potential whale lands have we talked about that maybe not so the plan is that when the badminton

center is up and running one half of it so there's seven courts down one side seven courts down the other side and there's a wall in between so half of it one side we haven't decided on a cadence yet but whether it's every six months every quarter every two months we're going to be doing about 250 seat lands um kind of overnight saturday sunday kind of thing and just just, you know, putting together some for fun tournaments and ladders and kind of cool stuff like that. The idea is to make the events as kind of drag and drop as possible. So I told Chase, who's our events coordinator, the goal is three to four hours of rollout and roll back up and stuff into the corner so nothing will leave the site

every switch you don't unplug a cable you just leave all the cables plugged in they're all labeled for which seat at that table they they they run to like everything's just land in a box you like coil them up and put them in a bag and like tape the bag to the switch or something i don't know whatever exactly but like it's exactly yeah so it'll still be organized it's not like there's this cable mess but you just you don't have to unplug it because you're not shipping it anywhere or anything like that so the idea is that you would actually miss potentially somewhere between two to four five even six events if you were banned for a year so with that in mind i don't know maybe a year is okay.

And by a one-year ban, to be clear, I didn't mean that you could come back to the next one. You know, like if you got banned at LTX 2023 for one year, I don't mean, okay, now you can come to 2024 because we didn't have any events. Like you'd be able to come to 2025. Okay. All right. Yeah. I don't see a lot of people. I could see a lot of people

wanting to do that, but I feel like coming back, there would be so much shame involved. If you could get over it, I feel like people would be good sports about it, but I feel like a number of people wouldn't be able to get over it. And are talking about like you know okay what if you're screen peeking it's all context dependent right like if everyone is screen peeking and you're all memeing and it's not a serious game obviously not but if you are upsetting someone else if you are degrading someone else's gaming experience what the f**k are you doing here yeah just leave yeah immediately there's just no question in my mind right like it's it's not acceptable there's a big

difference between like horsing around with your friends um like if i'm like like bumping lioness's chair and like very obviously like looking at his screen and doing whatever and we're both having a good time about it that that's completely fine. If you and your friends are doing the same thing, that's completely fine. If you're running some script that makes you better at the game and just making it unfun for other people, that's not cool.

And if you're like playing in a tournament against someone else and you're unfairly using the position of your seat, like if they're the next row in front of you and you're seated so you could see their screen if you like sat up more and we keep see you like doing this uh we probably won't like kick you out immediately but we'll tell you to stop um yeah i think you know what that's that's a really good point i think the level of like insidiousness would have a big impact on how i feel about it yeah like if someone came in with cheats loaded

into the firmware of their mouse or whatever. That's what I was kind of talking about. They're gone. Because I can't trust them again. Whereas if they're like just goofing around and being an idiot and they do something stupid, we're not talking like premeditation, you know? It's like your second and first degree murder difference, right?

Yeah, yeah. Or at least, you know, if they peek at a screen, It's like your second and first degree murder difference, right? Yeah. At least, you know, if they peek at a screen, you know, maybe it's a crime of passion. Yeah. It was a moment of desperation. They're losing and they're like, oh God, the invasive thought took over a little bit too much. Whatever.

We can tell them to stop. If it's a tournament, people will be watching them anyways. We'll tell them to stop. If they don't stop, then we start getting actionable about it uh if they do immediately stop them going oh yeah sorry that was stupid it's like okay whatever it's not great i don't want to babysit people you know i don't want to tell people twice yeah i agree i do agree anyway all right we can move on to our next topic oh do you want to play jessica's game merch messages and then game oh sure three i can't see dan stuff so dan you might need to message me on teams with

whatever you're he was just talking to me through the headphones and you you can't hear that either yeah um yeah but we got to do three merch messages if you want to leave a merch message go to the store, buy something. When you're in the cart page, there'll be an option to leave a merch message for the show. We will receive said message and then either respond through like a text thingy here or by answering the first merch message verbally, which we'll be doing now. Or potentially, if it's like a support related question, we might send it off to the support team and then they'll respond to it sometime next week.

It all depends on the question. So, yeah. Awesome. Yes, give us three. Sure. First one up here. Hey, DLL, my GF loves the woman's merch. Any more on the roadmap?

Yes. Also... We have like a lounge set so it's like super loose like comfy shorts and a tank top and we also have uh one second you know what i actually have a very special guest who might know the answer to this question it's technically work so i um i don't know anyway one second there's uh there's there's people there i'm gonna be that vague because he muted his mic so i don't know if we're supposed to talk about it the people want to know what we have coming for women's merch.

I already got the lounge thing. You're really far from the mic, though. So you're going to... Is this the mic? Yeah. It's end address, so you're going to want... Oh, my God. Okay, we're working on leggings and, like, comfort pants. The leggings are amazing.

Like, I want 100 pairs of them. I'm so excited. Yeah, Yvonne was saying that the leggings are like just out of this world. Amazing. Better than any of the like, you know, standard. You can just say Lululemon. That was what they compared it to in the merch meeting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we're also working on like a pajama set, which is cool. It's more of like a comfort lounge set, but both Yvonne and I dig it. Like, it's so awesome. Aside from that, yeah, I don't know. But lots of good things on the go. Wait, while I'm here,

I heard that the dinosaur dust pad is selling the best out of all the LTX merch. Does that mean I get to make more dinosaur merch? Answer the question. Wow, you're going to do me like that answer the question everyone i know the answer is yes i think i just got absolutely i think you got told yeah i think you got told i just got played by the way i'm going to be doing this at work more is one heck of a relative.

I'm not CEO anymore, so what am I going to say about it? Very true. I guess I better start having visions of dinosaurs. I was going to say, your future visions now include dinosaurs, by the way. There you go. That's pretty sick. For those of you who are wondering, it's craft night. And I would have had yvonne come over but she never wants to talk to you guys anyway when she drops by

late i think she gets she gets real shy about it and having sarah over here during when show is very unusual so i thought i'd uh but i'd have her come over and say hi to y'all all right well okay fine you heard it here first i guess we're doing more tech dinosaur related merch sarah you have to work tech into it a little bit you have to work some tech into it okay all right we've got a deal all right deal oh next up next up love the steam deck and the framework concept your thoughts on a handheld conversion kit for the framework 13 inch main board and battery would love to make one but need a compatible screen not yet not yet um i think that sort of thing would be super, super cool in the future. But the challenge right now is that

board with the battery, it's just too big. Yeah, it's, it's not going to be manageable. And by the time you put so if you if you tear apart a device like a steam deck, or like an Ioneo, or like an ROG ally, they are so, so, so careful to optimize the Z height, the thickness. And if this thing is chonk, right? Like huge before you even put buttons on the front of it, right? So you've got screen, then motherboard with cooling, then battery. It's like this thick guys. I just don't think it's feasible. Now I would love to see frameworkwork do some kind of mobile gaming device or something like that. But you got to understand, they are still a really small company, really, really small in the grand scheme of things. And right now, I mean, look at

their back orders. They are taking orders for AMD frameworks like six months into the future or something like that. Their problem right now is not that they don't have a cool product people want to buy. Their problem right now is they can't make enough. So I mean, it's a good problem to have, but also you don't want to be bottlenecked, right? So they've got other fish to fry right now. And in the meantime, what i told asus when they

came to show us the ally early is hey look at this video that we just did with framework look at this under internalize this take this back to hq and when i see ally two or ally three it's got to incorporate this philosophy because this is coming you guys are either part of it or you guys are left behind those are the only options right now and i don't know if it got through but i hope so and that's that's really my goal here right like i don't need to make a ton of money with framework i am fine i will be fine forever but if framework can put pressure on everyone else, then I consider it a win. Obviously, I wouldn't mind more money in my dragon pile or more equipment for the lab or whatever. It's not a bad thing.

If I eventually cash out framework or something like that, don't judge me. I'm not against making money. But what i'm about first is the completion of the mission so that won't happen until framework either grows up and is a real company or the industry just kind of gets there and framework isn't needed anymore yeah uh nick light says they only get more dinosaur merch if they send more merch messages i don't think you can tell them that nick i think i've already agreed i think we've already had a had a long distance handshake that more dinosaur merch is absolutely coming designer series desk pad is the currently number one

selling item of the show yeah yeah i think it's a bit of an advantage for sarah's design that it's the cover image but you guys should also check out the other designs zero gravity gaming is super cool maria designed that one and vancouver skyline i think is going to be the one that runs away with it in person because that's the convention center as well as like the downtown Vancouver core. And I think Lloyd just did an absolutely beautiful job of it. Okay, last one, I think. Hey DLL, thanks for being cool tech bros. Question for Linus and others if it applies. It's pretty apparent you have an entrepreneurial mindset.

Is this nature or nurture? The entrepreneurialness is not innate to me. I was a lazy gamer once. I just wanted to clock in, clock out, go home, play video games, fool around with my girlfriend uh like I had a pretty simple I had a pretty simple life for a bit um I guess I just I get bored really fast I get bored so easily and what I discovered that I liked when I was working at NCIX, even though it wasn't my money, I just liked making number go up. I got a rush, right?

Like I got a hit from that. And my original goal was to be a teacher. And so what happened was I ended up doing both. both. I ended up becoming a teacher in the best, in the most scalable, make number go up possible way. And I just, I completely fell into it. It wasn't something that I sought out. I remember looking at this YouTube channel that I came across when I went down to attend like an in-person YouTube event in Seattle. This is, wow, this is many years ago. This is very, very early LTT. So like I met it's Judy's life there. And I met, oh man, what's the channel called? What their big like smash hit first video, grandma's smoking weed for the first time. So this was eight years ago. It has 35 million views.

So I met these guys. And the one in particular just really impressed upon me that there was a different way to do YouTube. Very different way to do YouTube. Like they came in going, YouTube's a growing thing. And we are going gonna like capitalize. We are, every single video is a swing for the fences, you know, like it was, it was the Mark Rober approach before Mark Rober was absolutely crushing the entire platform.

Right. Um, and I don't know if they ever, I don't know if they ever i don't know if they ever had another just smash hit like that i don't know what they're up to today that the channel's still active anywhere from a couple hundred thousand to five hundred thousand views of video certainly nothing quite like that uh kids getting the picture taken with santa has 66 million views kids getting the picture taken with Santa has 66 million views. We've got some racy beer pong. Yeah, no, they've had quite a few bangers over the years.

Some as recent as four years ago, but it looks like they have fallen off a little bit. It's always interesting looking at these channels. Like I have no idea, has this channel been acquired? Are the original managers even involved? i have no idea but it was really eye-opening to me to see how these guys were coming in analytically with a laser focus on get the most views possible yeah Yeah. Uh, I guess there's a part in here for me. Uh, I have no ownership in the company, um, on, on, in like a legal sense or stock or

anything like that. But in mentality, I feel like I do. Um, I, the amount of people here that I manage is vast. I feel like I have a lot of say in things. And I don't think I'd really be able to have it any other way. Both my parents ran companies when I was growing up. So maybe mine is a little bit more nurture. Um, I, I've, I've always known since I was a little kid that either I would want to be a part of an organization where I had a lot of swing or sway or whatever you want to call it. Um, or, or I would want to bring the pajama pants, then it's swing. Um, or, oh man. Um um or i would want to be like running my own thing

i i never really cared too much which one of those it was so i'm not like too bothered about how it ended up um but i do appreciate a lot and value a lot my ability to enact change at this company. And I yeah I think that was I think it's maybe a little column A column B. I think that's a little bit nature and also a little bit nurture because both my parents are that way. All right Dan want to hit us with one more? Yeah sure we can do one more. Years ago Linus did a video of a badminton-playing robot. Any chance we'll be seeing one of these at his badminton-slash-land center?

No. What you might see is some of the same technology at some point. The way that they handled the machine vision for calculating the trajectory of the shuttle so that the robot would go and intercept it and hit it back was pretty low cost, pretty elegant. It was just two cameras. I think they were only like 18 inches apart or something like that, like not much farther apart than your eyes. And they were able to calculate in 3D space, depth and everything, exactly how far away it was so that they could get the robot over there in time. And I remember them telling me, it's probably in the video, right? That was a few years ago, though, so I don't remember, but no, it's probably in the video. But I think I remember them telling

me that it was within like some obscenely small number of milliseconds after you hit the shuttle, it knew exactly where it was going to be and could start moving because it was just calculating it. It wasn't watching it. It was watching the first little bit of movement, just looking at the velocity and deceleration and trajectory and going, okay, yeah, it's going to be about there. Very cool. Yeah. Additional topics if you guys want.

Let's do it man i am uh i am fading extremely fast here i started out the day thinking i was probably just sore from badminton last night by midday i still thought maybe but i was like coughing a little bit and now I'm just like I need to go to bed oh we do Jessica's segment I was just right we're gonna do the merch messages in the game so let's let's do it yeah I don't know how this works I will explain I guess maybe yeah sure okay sure I have this I gotta do all the things oh yeah you got you oh wow you have all of the um extra little bits that's awesome um okay so i believe what we're gonna do

is we're gonna go through three of these news items and there's gonna be three to pick from from each of the three. You have to figure out which one is not true. Oh. That's two truths and a lie, but in news story headlines. And then I believe the loser has something that they have to do. We can't say performance for the rest of the show. We can't say performance. That's right. Performance. What happens if we do? I don know it doesn't that was not qualified okay well i guess it's up to dan then um i don't

which could be scary last time i left anything up to dan i got my arm and my leg shaved yeah that was the compression is too much here but it's it a lot. I don't work well under pressure, and other people normally get hurt. Okay. So let's start with this first one. I guess you're supposed to hold up the flag with your choice. Yep. Okay. First section.

Number one. Bluetooth e-bike posts live location data to the cloud without user's knowledge so wait do we have to say don't don't show your cards luke don't show your card okay but sorry what are we saying though i don't really get it i'm gonna give you three headlines not true okay so we hear all of them and then we pick one that is not true so there's one false okay okay did you you heard that one yeah yeah two. High school changes every student's password to change me, exclamation point. Informs student body through mass email. And number three.

Elon Musk's boring company is shipping burnt hair perfume. Which one is not true? Okay. Do you want to just give us a 3, 2, 1? Sure. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 2 and 3. Interesting. So you

are both wrong. What? It's number 1. But that was so believable. It really was. That was the most's number one. But that was so believable. It really was. No Bluetooth. That was the most believable one. No Bluetooth e-bike are doing the tracking. Darn it. I thought it was two just because it was so funny.

I was like, that feels like well written. It feels like a joke that someone had to prep. That's the worst part. That's the worst part. That's the worst part. Okay, on to round two. We got owned. Zero points.

Yeah, what if we both lose, Dan? Same punishment to both of you. Okay, so we're not allowed to look at chat during this, hey? I didn't look. It'd be reasonable. We can't tell what Linus is doing. As long as you don't have any hardware assists to aid you in looking at chat, then we won't have to give you a lifetime ban.

Perfect. Okay, round two. Number one, Bose issues a recall for decades-old speakers due to a fire hazard. Number two, autonomous drones now rival squirrels in causing blackouts and damaged power lines. in causing blackouts and damaged power lines. And number three, Japanese Splatoon fan buys $3,500 worth of Nintendo stock so that he can complain about the limited hairstyles

for male characters at a shareholder meeting. Oh man, I almost want you to go over them again. Okay, count us down. What was the first one? Sorry. Bose issues a recall for decades-old speakers due to a fire hazard. Autonomous drones now rival squirrels in causing blackouts and damaged power lines. Okay, I'm ready. We can't let this take too long. We've got one read.

Three, two, one. Two. It is number two. Yes! Good job. All right, tie game. All right. For all the money. Number two. Yes! Alright, tie game. For all the money.

Number one. Soon you can pre-order this flame-throwing robot. Robo-dog. I misspoke. Number two. Popular ASMR YouTuber revealed to be entirely AI-generated. And number three. Researchers give robots live insects for hands. You can pre-order a flamethrowing robot dog,

an ASMR YouTuber is an AI-generated YouTuber, or robots with insect hands. Okay. Three, two, one. one and two oh my god luke is the winner luke is the winner there is no ai generated ai youtubers yet i'm sure ASMR is a burgeoning market. Okay, Linus, you're no longer allowed to say performance. I would have thought someone would have put

a lot of work into making AI ASMR, but I guess we're not quite there yet. Give it a couple weeks. Got him. That was close. I was very surprised. Things usually are in these scenarios, but yeah, that was close.

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lmg.gg slash tailwind app. All right, should we go through some rapid fire topics here? Because I feel like we've got a lot. Starting with, can I just shout out Android for just every time? Oh, this video isn't out yet. Okay. In our upcoming iOS rundown, I say I think Apple might have me. They might have me switching to the iPhone. And you know what the feature is? No. Classic answering machine mode. have me switching to the iPhone. And you know what the feature is? No. Classic answering machine mode. Oh, I thought you just didn't have voicemail enabled. Well, I could though. So with their new feature, what it does is you can push people to voicemail or they can just go there naturally. And then as they're leaving a voicemail, it pops up a live transcription of what they're saying on your phone. So you can decide if that's someone we want to talk to and if it's important and you can take the call. That is a game changer.

I want to screen my calls because there's nothing I can do to keep my phone number from leaking. So if I could just screen my calls, we're good. Well, I already screened my calls on Android. Well, yeah, but can you see when they're leaving a voicemail? I don't have voicemail. I just screened my calls on Android. Well, yeah, but can you see when they're leaving a voicemail? I don't have voicemail. I just screened my calls. But I want to see. I mean, I want to see what they're saying. Yeah, you can see that.

Because I don't necessarily have. That's the whole reason why I use it. If you call me right now, if you don't necessarily do it, but if you call me right now, the call will come in and I'll have three options. Answer, decline, or screen call. And if it's a number that i don't know i click screen call and google tells them your call is being screened tell them what it's about whatever and then when they speak into it it will put a text transcript of what they're saying on my screen oh yeah no i don't this is the reason why i said i wouldn't go to an iphone because i like this

feature so much and now you're telling me that they're releasing this feature. So that's, that's, that's pretty big. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. All right. Apparently it's a pixel only feature. Sick. Thanks pixel. Anyway, that makes sense. My actual point was that I don't think I can ever leave Android because every time I start thinking, Ooh, yeah, iPhone, that's pretty cool. Blah, blah, whatever. I just encounter something that would have driven me absolutely batshit crazy on an iPhone. So I got this, I got this like home laser hair removal thing. And the only way I was able to get it was by ordering from Amazon UK, because it's not technically certified in Canada or whatever. I don't care. Like if it's certified in the UK,

in the US, whatever, I will just use it or other people in my house will use it or whatever. You can't tell me what to do, but they can because I'm in Canada with a Canadian Google account, with a Canadian payment method. So I'm on the Canadian Play Store, where the app is not available. And you know how so many devices either don't work at all without the app or have a severely degraded experience without the app. Because I'm on Android, I can just sideload it. On the iPhone, I don't know, maybe there's some way I could get around it, but I don't have to figure that out because I'm on Android. So I got it working in like three minutes. I just, I can't, I can't, I can't accept that I'm not allowed to just install whatever application I want.

No, you can't actually tell me what to do. That being said, if we do want to trash on Android, the Pixel Fold is out and already definitely busted. The Pixel Fold is finally available as of this week. Reviews have been broadly positive, calling the Fold a well-rounded device with solid performance, as promised. It's the thinnest foldable currently available at 0.2 inches open and 0.5 inches closed. The outside display is reportedly comparatively comfortable to use due to its wider ratio and the crease is less obtrusive because it's vertical rather than horizontal. The battery life for the device lasted over 10 hours compared to the galaxy z which lasted an hour less under the same conditions however i would have loved to try all of this you know we even had like a sponsorship did they not send you one i still don't have one what the heck you were you

were nodding along and i assume that's because you used it nope This is one of those things where I fall between the cracks because my audience is in America and my geographical location is in Canada. So Google Canada doesn't have a device and Google America or like doesn't have a device for me. I don't know. Maybe they had some and Google America can't send me a device or something i don't know exactly what happened it doesn't matter the point is this was a major launch i'm one of the only like prominent tech creators that actually daily drives a foldable phone and they just they couldn't get it done i'm like okay like the reality of it is like i don, I don't really want to switch phones right now. Like I'm using the Fold 3 because I just couldn't be arsed to switch to the Fold 4.

Like I, it's a pain in the butt. I have so many apps and so many things to log into and none of it's automatic. It's all like manually keying things in. Like, how is it that SwiftKey, okay, doesn't just have a one button, yeah, these are my settings at this point. When I get a new device, which people do like every two to four years, why is it not just like it used to be

when you went to the cellular store and they would just have a special cable? Yeah. Boop, boop. And it would just copy everything over, like, honestly. Yeah. Anyway.

Yeah, moving on. Carry on. However, there are already widespread reports of users whose phones are already breaking after only one or two days of use surprisingly this problem seems to be inside the screen rather than the inside screen to be the yeah the inside screen rather than the hinge with most users complaining of cracked screens and dead pixels. The protective plastic layer on top of the Fold's ultra-thin inside panel doesn't quite stretch to the edge of the screen,

and the two halves of the display are extremely close when folded. This can result in users crushing small debris between the two halves. The screen on Ars Technica's review copy of the Pixel Fold appears to have died after four days of light usage due to a tiny puncture in the exposed OLED screen. And we have a picture here. Can I just share the doc? Do you do that? I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah, I do. I have a picture here. They can see the picture. Give it the old control mouse wheel. He's got this. He's got this. Pinch to zoom wheel he's got this he's got this pinch to zoom let's go here's your eye where's your eye macbook at why is the touch not working for this there we go that's not gonna help you that's touchpad we got it though we got it though you can see the

screen protector yeah it doesn't go to the edge that seems like a mistake i mean i don't have the screen protector on my fold anymore but as i recall there was a gap around the edge just because manufacturing tolerances and all that our question our discussion question here is how on earth would they not catch this and why wouldn't they fix it prior to launch and you know what honestly what I would say is a couple of things. Number one is the people who were daily driver testing this thing were probably being really careful with it. Like contractually, they were probably not supposed to break them. So while you might catch some real world, you know, real world wear and tear issues, you also might not. And the second thing is that there can be differences from one unit to the next, even on the exact same production line,

they may have just gotten lucky, and all the pre production ones were fine. And then they went, and they moved to production. And Lord only knows what went slightly differently. And it's not as good anymore. I mean, when we did all of our pre-testing for the carabiners on the backpack, for example, we didn't have any fail. And we looked back at the early samples and they were way more robust than the ones we've gotten back from people that have broken. And it was just the difference in the tolerances between these two little pieces of metal

that held the little hinged clip piece in place. By the way, I have really good news. Tynan and, oh, who else from the engineering team was there? I'm embarrassed. But anyway, Tynan, a couple of the engineers from Creator Warehouse came and chatted with me this morning, and I approved the final replacement carabiner pulse. So they are going to mass production. I'm really excited to get that chapter behind us. Hopefully they're

going to arrive just in time for our reorder. We need new stock. We've sold through almost all 40,000 units, by the way. Thank you guys very much. And to everyone who says, well, what an idiot, nobody's buying these. You are objectively wrong. You are just actually wrong. Thank you guys so much for your support. And yeah, so I'm hoping that then the new order will come with those out of the box, or at the very least, we will be able to unite them here in Vancouver and they will ship together. So you don't have to go through the recall process. Yeah. I'm really excited.

Yeah. The only difference between the new ones and the last ones we showed on land show are that they're smaller. So they don't like, they're not so heavy and they don't hang out so far. That kind of makes sense. They were, they were pretty big.

I'm going to rapid fire through a couple of topics here. A spying app hacked. An Android-based phone monitoring app called Let Me Spy has suffered a major data breach that allowed hackers to gain access to email addresses, telephone numbers, and the content of messages collected on accounts. Who could have seen this coming? No, no, no. Name one person. Name one person who could have seen this coming? No, no, no. Name one person. Name one person who could have seen this coming. An app that is specifically designed to collect information about the user without them knowing.

Who could have possibly... Luke, I can see, I can see in your eyes. You have no answer for me. Who could have seen this coming? Nobody. That's who. It would be impossible. No one could ever figure this out. The exposed data includes data from the present. From the present back to let me. Oh, okay. I've just read this terribly. The exposed data includes data back from the.

Includes data from the present back to let me spies 2013 launch. Let me spy informed law enforcement shortly after discovering the hack and suspended all account-related functions until further notice. Okay, you want to hear the kicker? They claim, this isn't in our notes, but I read this, they claim that they delete all data

after I think it's two or three months or something like that. That is clearly, clearly, objectively not true. That's rough. And also, no one could have seen this coming. The Let Me Spy app, which users can install on another person's phone in order to snoop on their communications and activity, which can, you know, collect call logs, SMS messages, and locations. So this is intended for like the suspected cheating spouse or the,

or the kid who you think is sneaking out at night or whatever else I've seen the, the app icon. It's just like LMS and has kind of a indistinct looking tile and just, yeah, just indistinct looking icon. And if you indistinct looking icon and if you just kind of buried it and you know everyone has that unused system apps folder you just kind of put it in there I think a lot of people would never notice something like this absolutely the app is typically sold as a parent or employer control and can be set as invisible so the device user cannot detect it the data breach has further revealed that a substantial number of the apps users were actually government officials

and u.s college students interesting overlap okay yeah really let me spy has been used to track over 200 000 phones since january this year Not all time. Discussion question. Should this kind of product be publicly available? Is there a legitimate reason to have this kind of hidden access to another person's communications? I don't think it should be hidden. I mean, if you're in a relationship where for some reason you consent, whether it's for safety, like let's say you're friends and you both, I don't know, go on a lot of Tinder dates or hiking or, you then, like, or, or, okay, let's say you're in a relationship where there's been a significant betrayal of trust and you basically go, look, I'll do anything to have you back. I won't go anywhere. I'm not supposed to put this on for six months and you'll see, you'll see, you know, like I, you know, I, it is possible that with consent, there could be a reason for an app like this to

exist but my understanding is that again this comes back to our iOS update is that Apple in particular is actually building in some features like that but done in a way that is not hidden from the user and I believe that I believe that Android particularly for children's phones, already has ways of getting real-time location data from a user's phone. I don't know about grandparents. Will the Beast in the float plane chat says, what about grandparents? So yeah, it's a legit use case. But to sneak it onto someone's phone, I think is just inexcusable.

You're as bad as whatever it is you're trying to prevent. Yeah. I think relationships have to be about communication and trust. If you have to sneak this onto the phone of someone you're in a relationship with, you should probably exit that relationship. Or like, you know, get significantly better at communication, fix your problems, do stuff like that. I mean, it's not always that simple.

People could be in an abusive relationship or whatever. Like this could be a safety thing for them you know morality is easy from a position of privilege that's true but if i was if i was worried that like my ex was gonna show up and kill me or something if i could get this on his phone would i do it yeah for you because the thing is like in theory you whatever. Police are supposed to protect you or something. But a bullet's a lot faster than a cop. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of police are in reactive positions, right?

They do stuff after the fact. They're not going to camp outside your house for the rest of your life. Exactly, right? Yeah. Anyways, more rapid fire. Gaming publisher fires staff, hires AI editor. By gaming publisher, we mean, like, gaming news and information, not releasing games. Gamers group.

Yeah, gamers group with a G-A-M-U-R-S, gamers group. A publisher that owns a dozen gaming websites, including.esports, pro game guides, destructoid, and the escapist. Fired around 40% of their workforce back in march this week they were found to have posted a job ad for an ai editor to edit between 200 and 250 ai generated articles per week assuming a five day 40 hour work week which is pretty standard with two 15 minute breaks this would allow between 9 and 11.5 minutes to edit each article the job posting has since been removed presumably in response to notable backlash discussion question is it possible to have something of quality come through a process like this? Unpopular opinion. I do think it is possible.

I think it's possible. I mean, I think it's unlikely. I think most of it's going to be trash. I think some of it might come out well, though. And when we say quality, I mean, you can't Okay, when you say something of quality, I'm not talking talking a fluke one of these 250 articles a day that is good i'm talking quality like a quality result some kind of consistency okay yeah no there's no way 250 articles per week that is 50 a day which works out to what about seven an hour which is one every 10 minutes and that assumes that you are just in the zone you are as much a machine as your ai helping there's no way you don't you don't get snacks you don't take bathroom breaks you don't have like mental lulls because there's gonna be times where you're faster and sometimes where you're slower.

Yeah, it's going to be garbage. I hear that. Who knows if it's even going to be happening though. They did pull the listing down. And we've talked about this kind of stuff in the past, right? There are sites that already do this. This is a thing that is happening. So don't think just because they closed this

that it isn't a thing. I sometimes don't even notice until I'm like halfway through the article, man. And I notice like it's repeating itself. I'm like, this is AI written. I'm not staying here, I believe. Yeah, get out of there. Get out of there fast. It's rough.

Yeah. And I'm so close to actually starting to subscribe to quality publications. It might actually happen. We're going back right we're going back we're going back to the newspaper model man we're going back to the cable tv model everything is has gone this this other way everything is free take it for granted for so long actually speaking of of online news i guess uh the big news in Canada this week anyway, is that the Canadian government finally passed the Online News Act, which forces online platforms to pay Canadian news corporations for links to news content that's shared on their platform. While Google initially seemed willing to negotiate, it has now declared Canada's law to be

unworkable. And it and Meta are claiming that when the law takes effect, they will start blocking links to Canadian news sites. Similar laws were passed in Australia and France, and Google and Meta made similar claims that they would block news content, but then relented. However, that doesn't mean that the laws in those countries have no downside. In Australia, as in Canada, the government did not set a specific rate. Instead, it merely forced platforms to negotiate deals with news organizations, deals which no party is required to disclose. That means that news organizations could wind up getting paid at wildly different rates, which primarily benefits the larger

organizations and squeezes independent outlets. Both countries already have heavily concentrated news ecosystems. This is very true. If Meta and Google do go ahead with blocking Canadian news, they will likely also cancel existing publication deals like the one that Google has with 150 Canadian outlets through its Google News Showcase program. The law was estimated to pay up to 30% of the costs of Canadian newsrooms. What are you going to do when there's no Canadian news in your Google News feed? Do you use your Google News feed? Because I do. I do, but I aggressively block sites. Do you do that?

That's the only way I find it usable. No, I just curate, actually. I just read what is interesting. And over time, it's gotten good. I find it'll just, I don't know what it is. It'll just pick something random that I've never clicked on. I was showing my girlfriend a few months back. It picked some like random country singer.

I've never heard of this person. Never clicked on an article of them. Nothing. of this person never clicked on an article of them nothing it was like every second thing in my google news feed was was this person what they're wearing what song they did some interview some what i was like oh my god so i had to like block that person from my google news i'm like i have nothing against this person but i don't i don't see them in every second article that I have. I really have to cut it down, but I do use it. And a lot of my usage of it, to be honest, is to get Canadian news. And it sends me quite a bit of it because that's the kind of stuff that I click on.

Because I sometimes find that it is very mentally taxing to keep up with all of the news in the world and paying attention to the grim state of a lot of that when you start trying to absorb all of that because negativity increases clicks. So a lot of what people are going to want to tell you about is all just the bad stuff that's happening everywhere. But I do try to keep up on what's going on in my local area. i'm at least somewhat informed um so yeah i don't know kind of rough not a fan i mean there's always r slash vancouver oh just kidding yeah reddit dumpster fire right now yeah we've got we've got like the the local city subreddits and we've got that but there's there's even been we're talking about everything's going back to what it used to be there's been some vague amount of draw because

of stuff like this for me just wondering like do i need to go back to facebook just for like local community groups i don't use it but like do i go back to that so i can get news like if this seriously negatively impacts my ability to get news about the local area do i need to start using that like i don't i honestly if if google news kicks everything out i don't know what else to use i mean either reddit reddit even in its current state even in its pre everything's on fire state it wasn't a perfect solution in my opinion. No, it really wasn't. No. So like, I don't know what to do.

It's weird. It's very weird. I have some, I have a couple other little announcements. If we could go back to those for a bit. VTuber Fillion responded to our recent video where we used them as an example of the progress of full body motion capture. Luke, can you bring up this tweet? I will grab it.

It's freaking awesome. It is. It's very cool. Oh, wait. I don't know if I can. What? Oh, because you're not watching Twitter. Twitter made it so you can't view things unless you're logged in. I can sit here and try to log in if you want to give me a minute.

Okay. One sec. Can I screen share? I can. Let's go. Okay. Okay. So, Dan, you're going to have to deal with this, I guess.

Yeah, this might get a little crazy for a second. Okay. Theoretically, I am screen sharing right now. Dan, is there something that you have to do to activate it? You might have to add another... He's figuring it out. He's figuring it out. While Dan's figuring it out, Fillion also offered to vtuber me and i've actually been meaning to do a vtuber episode for

quite some time and collaborating with a well-known figure in the space seems like a really really cool way to be sweet yeah yeah i'm i'm i'm kind of i'm kind of excited i accept i feel like if if you do work with them you're gonna have to try to do a flip oh maybe on a trampoline yeah yeah i can't do a flip on the ground man i can't directly i just i think you gotta you know you gotta hit the theme i can't directly embed your uh screen share really it's like frozen ish i don't i don't know well i think i ended up the newsletters that is super oh sorry sorry it's off it's off i'm sorry okay i'll stop sharing i wonder i mean i could probably just like directly add the twitter as a browser source no i'd have to log in no in the streaming software well at any rate i guess uh i'll just

copy it into the chat and you guys can go yeah yeah show flip lane all right sorry guys twitter man a thing that is literally in the wanshow as a news topic just screwed us over we weren't able to bring up a tweet because uh i'm not logged in on this laptop and they're they're like stopping you from viewing tweets unless you're logged in i'm not so luke this laptop, and they're stopping you from viewing tweets unless you're logged in. Luke, if you want to throw it in Twitch chat, I'm not signed in. Neither am I.

Or we can just forget about it because Twitch chat. Get on Twitch chat. Maybe watch on a platform that doesn't suck. All right. In other news, we are going to be releasing LTT TV. Yeah. This is in collaboration with you know what i'm not going to give any details because i don't know what i am or am not allowed to say about it but basically on the ltt channel there will be a continuous live stream of back catalog content that's curated by our editors and by our writers. There were quite a few

challenges to overcome with this. And maybe that's something that Luke could talk about a little bit more. The original plan was just to encode like a 12 hour video of a bunch of videos and then just play it on loop. But you guys created a better solution for this, right? Yes, but hold on for a second because I got Fillion's video. So we're jumping back a little bit. Okay, let's do it. Because Fillion does the YouTubes as well. You want audio for this?

Let me do audio. Can I have audio for this? Yes, you can. Is it playing? No, because how do I make it go back to the start? Hey, wife, do you want to say hi to everyone? There you go. There we go.

I don't see audio. I can't hear it. You don't have any audio playing. I don't? No. There's also captioning for the whole thing. Okay, we'll just read it. Read the video.

Hey, there we go. Do we have audio now? They can hear it. You can't. That's fine. I've already seen it. Okay. Hopefully that's not too loud.

I also can't hear it. You can't. That's fine. I've already seen it. Hopefully that's not too loud. I also can't hear it. I love the fail flip. So good. Let's get it. Yeah. Fantastic. Very cool. Okay.

Yeah, the back catalog. So we had a couple different ideas of how we wanted to do this um what we ended up settling on was that uh youtube accepts two different streams into one stream key so that if on one channel if that's not what i'm saying one stream key okay all right wait two streams to one stream key. Oh, that thing. Okay, well, hold on. That's what I was telling you. First of all, YouTube lets you have multiple stream keys per channel. Yes.

So you can have more than one. So one show will be one stream key. Yeah, you can have more than one currently live stream per channel. I believe, if I remember correctly, a good example of this is the relaxing beats channel or whatever that's called. It's like Cozy Cow or something. I called. It's like cozy cow or something. I think they have a bunch of live streams. So that's how most people are familiar with it. But yeah, we can have more than one live stream.

You should theoretically only get one notification for the TV thing. And then you'll get notifications every time WAN show goes up. So it's not going to pester you all the time, but there will be more than one live stream. So we can have two streams go into one stream key so that if one of these computers loses power or internet or something happens, it'll fail over to the second one. So you often see this type of stuff not done in the exact same way, but you'll see it with IRL streamers where they will be streaming to a server somewhere. That server will be streaming up to like YouTube or Twitch or something like that.

And then if the stream that the IRL streamer has to the server goes down, then the server just streams like a we'll be back thing. So this is different than that, actually. This is two different ones streaming all the time towards YouTube to one stream key. And if one of them fails over, it goes to the other one. to one stream key uh and if one of them fails over it goes to the other one um this is it doesn't automatically fail or it doesn't automatically go back if the first source comes up in in the way that the irl streamers would have it go so what we're planning on doing is just both the streams are going to be the same so if it if one does fail you'll have like a loading little bit it'll

buffer for a second because it's switching which live stream it's pulling from, but it'll just keep going. It'll be as if nothing really happened. That'll just be one little bit chilled cow. Yeah. Yeah. There'll just be one little bit of loading time and we can feed those streams with like a VLC playlist. So instead of just editing together one like monstrous file and then loading up like, okay, this file will be good for the next 20 or 30 hours. Let's, let's render out another 20 or 30 hour long file so that we can keep running tomorrow or, and it'll all be different or something like that. We can just set a playlist of videos up in VLC, feed that into our streaming software that goes up the pipe to YouTube. YouTube takes it. If one of them goes down, it fails over to the other one. Uh, once that other

one is running and we get the first stream up that failed, if number two fails, it'll just go back to the first one. It just kind of goes back and forth based on failures and we are good to go. Yeah. It was actually not that hard to set up. A lot of that was like pretty well done by YouTube already. So we just had to do our side. Um, and some of that is going to be like editing some videos to like swap some things out, do whatever. But, um, yeah, that'll be coming theoretically, I think maybe sometime soon. I was going to say more specifically when, and then I realized that that's not in the doc, so I'm not going to do it because I don't know, uh, if that's like uh leaking anything or something like

that but yeah yeah yeah moving on i don't think we have any more announcements there's this billet labs thing yeah we should talk about that um there were quite a few people upset in the community about the billet labs video that was the like wild $800 all copper block that handled both CPU cooling and GPU cooling with a single like cooling engine and then cold plates on either side. And I understand what people are saying. We used it, they told us it should work with a 4090. But it was designed for a 3090 Ti. Well, we went for gold, and we tried it with a 4090. The temperature results were bad. It was clear that it wasn't making perfect contact, and we weren't getting the best possible results. What Adam asked me to do,

and so Adam was the writer on that project, and so don't direct any of your anger at him, because he was in your guys's corner. What Adam asked is if we could spend more time, put the 3090 TI on it and get real results. And what I told him was no, because, and guys, come on, like for real. Okay? It's 800 US dollars. The difference in volume for a build that has this thing versus one that just has a low profile CPU block and a creative mount for a GPU right over top of it is literally zero. It is negligible, especially when you consider all the other components that need to go into this build pump reservoir radiator power supply nothing would have changed nothing that obeys the laws of physics would have changed the conclusion which is that this is not a product to buy

if i had recommended this thing you guys would have hung me up from the nearest tree. You would have said, look how out of touch he is. It's not practical. And the conclusion of the video was, it seems like this thing exists mostly as a showcase for the capabilities of these machinists. So if you ever want something wild made, maybe go to them. That is still the conclusion. If the GPU had been 5 degrees cooler, that would have been the conclusion. If it had been 10 degrees cooler, that would have been the conclusion. If it had been 20 degrees cooler, that would have been the conclusion. So, yeah, I didn't do a good job of presenting that, I guess. It kind of ended abruptly. That's, I didn't do a good job of presenting that, I guess it kind of ended

abruptly. That's, that's something that I'm seeing a fair bit of feedback from people about. I don't know, I feel like all the information has been said by the time we do our abrupt endings, but we'll see if we can balance it out a little bit. But I'm not. I don't know, guys, I'm not sure if I can apologize for not spending another 100, 200, 300, $500 of various people's time sitting and engineering a workaround to a product that no matter the result, nobody should buy. And we did have people saying like, hey, you know, a lot of the issue Linus was that you guys, you know, didn't do a custom build that was really like made for it. Sure. But then at that point, why wouldn't we do a custom build that was really made for a low profile CPU block and a regular GPU block? And then we would have spent half as

much for the whole solution. Like it just, I'm sorry, like it's a cool product, but it's a bad product. It looks great. Yeah, it looks super cool. Are you just saying it's bad just purely because of the price? It's bad because it makes absolutely no sense and nobody should buy it. And I know that I often say, you guys probably don't hear me say it much, but I often say it internally. There's no such thing as a bad product, only a bad price. But in the case of this product, I have enough of an understanding of what it costs to make it to know that the price will never change.

So it's a bad product. Do you kind of get what I mean? Right, but you are saying it is a, yeah. Yeah, it's a bad product because there is such a thing as a bad product. If the price can never improve, these guys aren't like a major company that are going to turn around and go, Oh my goodness, we must produce these. And we're going to sell them at like an enormous loss just to like get rid of them. They didn't mass produce anything. So they will just never make anymore. So it doesn't matter. The whole conversation is completely academic because

no one's going to buy it and they're never going to make any. So like, okay. And the people who want to do like a wild, you know, one-off build with it or whatever, you know who you are. Nothing I was going to say was going to dissuade you right so yeah yeah i um i'm sorry guys i just yeah cool cool okay i'll put it this way cool concept bad product just like aesthetically but yeah there's no way i'd buy it for 1113 canadian dollars yeah no but it looks great build a whole computer for what this thing costs and that's not even the point the point is that you could actually build a water-cooled computer for less than this so yeah

i just i'm sorry guys i i i can't i i you know i still wanted to make a video about it because it was cool i wanted to highlight it but i'm not going to pretend that anything about the results would have changed the conclusion it wasn't going to happen are people upset that uh the conclusion was what it was or were they just upset with the like test they're upset that it seemed like we were lazy that we didn't bother and i get it you know what we could have put the extra work in i made the call that it didn't it wouldn't change anything um and i felt like we had already we had already seen it and told the story. So that like 18 seconds of Yep, well, here's the results with a 3090. Which, by the way, once again, okay? Are you serious? You're gonna buy an $800

water block, and you're gonna pair it with a last gen GPU? Really? So what did you get test it with sorry with a 4090 which they said it might be compatible with but it uh it clearly wasn't it wasn't quite compatible they have a 4090 fe option on their site yeah that's new okay yeah that's not what they sent us either way it still doesn't matter right like it's yeah yeah I don't know I feel like sometimes people they're upset about something and they they don't want to hear what I have to say about it necessarily and it doesn't happen all the time. Most of the community is actually really amazing, but there's a vocal minority that looks at something like that and goes lazy

out of touch, you know, whatever else. No, I'm just really experienced at this and I can measure that. I can weigh the pros and cons in my head. And so can you, if you take like four seconds and look at this thing,

it just doesn't make any sense. I get the conclusion thing i um and i i also get not wanting to uh retest but i do think probably just testing it with the thing that they knew it worked with in the first place probably would have made sense because like because like you're saying the test result itself doesn't matter but if it's like if it's just supposed to look cool then it should be seated properly so it looks cool yeah but the challenge there was like what we're going to showcase an 800 block on a last gen gpu that doesn't make any sense that's also nobody spending that kind of money would put a 3090 ti that'd be silly yeah all right um man is there any other updates that I have to address? Oh, the GameLink launch. So first up, the first video has, what is it, like 600,000 views or something like that?

I can't check the tweet announcement because I can't check Twitter. So now I'm going to go to YouTube really quick. 700,000 views. It hit number six on trending. It's going to be posting Tuesdays and Thursdays, so it alternates with TechLinked. So you have TechLinked Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and GameLinked Tuesday, Thursday. The set was created in Unreal Engine, for those who are wondering, and Jake Baines from the labs team actually contributed to that. We are using a Blackmagic Ultimate 4K,

which allows live compositing of video footage. So the green screen, it's not perfect, but it's really good. And there is one controversy that we didn't want to address. Most people really loved it. We're really happy with the first video. But we didn't have all the details about the fan art that was used in the Destiny 2 cutscene. The creator was happy that Bungie used the piece and he posted it to Bungie's community creation site two years ago,

which apparently grants Bungie the right to use it without condition. I think we could have a separate conversation about this government. Yeah, yeah. T's and C's like that, but that was not why we got it wrong. We got it wrong because we got it wrong.

So we're not going to derail the conversation like that we didn't see this detail we're sorry um we had a lot going on um riley says i'm pretty proud of my team's ability to quickly research stories and accurately summarize them we dropped the ball on this one it was a pretty busy week lol but gamers deserve better so we're going to do our absolute best. Okay, guys. We do need to be ready for that with gaming content. There's a lot of... Are you saying that gamers are a little angry, Luke? A little angsty?

Yeah, a little bit. But kind of everything all the time. So yeah, there might be a few of these. But we'll do our best. I believe in that team. Why is it all crossed out? What's happening? I'm crossing out topics that we've done because my brain is too slow to parse them.

Oh, are we done this topic, though? Yeah. Okay. There's a bunch of, like, comments and stuff, but that's fine. Do you want to talk about more? Yeah, we can talk about more. Well, my brain is incapable of reading it now because it's even more harder than it normally is. But that's okay um i think i'm striking through stuff that we've already done in the dark guys yeah i think we're finally done no we're not there's one last one uh apply for funding to

build open source infrastructure the sovereign tech fund has asked us to boost their contribute back challenge they're offering up to 300 000 euros per funding round to developers to help build and maintain open source infrastructure the application deadline ends july 6 2023 uh there are three challenges improve foss or free open source software developer tooling securing FOSS software production and FOSS infrastructure documentation. Okay. I'll just copy that link into everything but Twitch chat. Get right to Twitch chat.

And actually you were wrong. We have a few more topics. Notably, Milkgate. Oh, but that's not under announcements. So you're wrong. That's rapid fire. Get on, Linus. Okay. I'm sorry Linus. Okay. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. We're at the same level of the company totem pole in like an hour and 45 minutes, and now you talk to me like that? Oh, gosh. Hashtag Milkgate. This is from the LTT subreddit. This got a lot of interaction. Like 600 people commented on the fact

that we do not provide milk to our employers, which is outrageous. As it turns out, there is milk. Jessica messaged me during the show last week. There is milk in the fridge and we have complimentary creamer, which I have learned is not the same everywhere. So you know how creamer here is those little liquid things of cream that you pour into your milk and they're hermetically sealed so they

don't have to be in the fridge all the time. Okay. In other places, creamer is like a flavored powder that you pour into your coffee. Oh, what? Yeah. It makes it taste creamier, I guess. It's powdered milk. Or there's other flavors and stuff. It's powdered milk. So when I said we have creamer, people were like, um, ew. But actually, our creamer is fine.

Cool. But actually, our creamer is fine. Cool. Anyway, also, AMD has announced a limited run CPU. The Ryzen 5 5600X. That's right. A full year after the AM4 platform has been effectively left behind, AMD is launching a new CPU for it. The 5600X3D is coming next week

and is available exclusively at US retailer Micro Center, which has 25 locations in 18 states. And the reason for this is that it seems like rather than just turning them into e-waste, AMD is turning defective. No, not just seems like. They have said this is what happened. They have a bunch of not quite good enough 5800X 3Ds,

and they're just cutting off a couple of cores, and now it's a six core, and it's got 3D V-cache, and this is pretty sick. This thing could be a killer value at $230 US. I don't even know if we're going to be able to get our hands on one. But that's awesome. I thought it was kind of weird that it was only at Micro Center. But they're saying they didn't have enough for a global launch.

This is not something that they're intending to produce. So that makes a lot more sense. It's one shot. They're not going to send one chip to every retailer. So they might as well centralize it yeah yeah that makes sense that's cool yeah i get it i mean i'm not in the u.s so that sucks yeah like it's not good for us but i'm happy they're doing something with it instead of just throwing it away that's good yeah and if they don't have enough for a global launch

like it all makes sense this is good and the pricing looks pretty good to me if you wanted a budget gaming machine on like a like a cheap b series board or something like that this looks like a freaking awesome value and finally we're not going to bother talking about the rtx 4060 launch i've said everything i have to say about that what a good absolute dog turd of a launch but we are going to talk about our favorite platform ever also known as tiktok uh tiktok is introduced sorry hold on can i can i jump out ahead of this and say i actually think that this should be regulated maybe not illegal but this is gambling okay go ahead i'm sorry this is pretty rough yeah tiktok has introduced a new feature called creative challenge which encourages creators to compete for advertiser money by making branded content.

The program is open to US-based users 18 years old and up who have at least 50,000 followers. Videos must be high quality, well edited, and original content. How it works is the brands put up a pool of money and creators submit videos brands then select the winning video based on their own criteria brands may then request revisions which the creator may or may not accept after okay after an ad is okayed by the brand it is. Unapproved submissions do not appear publicly on the creator's page. Submission does not guarantee any amount, any form, any payment whatsoever. This is probably the worst thing in the creator space I've potentially ever heard of,

or at the very least heard of in the last very long time. You should not do this. No one should do this. People are going to do it anyways, but you shouldn't do it. So rough. I'm trying to think of parallels. Like if there's anything even similar to this. I can't think of anything like this. I know there's situations where you could do like a proposal. Like there's bidding on like construction projects and stuff like that. But you're not building the whole thing. You know?

Yeah. Like. Wild. Absolutely wild. Brutal. Is it time for After Dark? It is. Let's do it.

Get the lights. How am I going to do that? Oh, hey, look at that. Oh my god, that's great. I should go the other way. Yeah? Sure. It looks pretty good.

I mean, I guess I could just kill both of them. Oh, that's a little dark. Not quite. Okay. Let's go this way. All right, cool. Time to do some merchant messages.

Dan, want to hit me? He's busy with the lights. He's talking to me? Yeah, hit him. Get him. Okay. Let's see. Recently started my fourth watch through Scrapyard Wars.

What series do you want to bring back from the dead? Or should they all stay dead permanently? Hey, we just brought back HandyTech Under 100, which people were more stoked on than I actually expected. So we gonna have to do some more of them um fun fact uh that was i talked earlier on the show about how um oh see i'm the face of the channel so obviously i get a lot of the credit but i also get basically all of the backlash. Yeah. And so sometimes the ratio, it's just like a psychological thing, right? Like the one mean comment stands out more than the hundred positive ones. And so sometimes it really is kind of frustrating that when something goes

wrong, it's my fault. And when something goes right, it's like great job team. And part of that is a culture that I foster. I try to make it about that. But handy tech under a hundred is an example of a video that I'm not going to name any names because like, you're not even going to be able to figure it out from the credits for reasons that I I'm not going to get into because I don't want anyone figuring anything out. But I saved that video. Only one of the items they brought me was handy. I literally ran around the warehouse finding it. That's why so many of the items were things we had already, because that's where I got them. Because I was like, these are not handy items. This is not acceptable. Like we

did this six years ago. It was in handy tech already. I can't expect them to necessarily know that, but also they were just not that interesting or handy these days. And yeah, that was a video that I was really happy with because we basically pulled it out of the fire and made it awesome. And my wife is here. Do you actually want to say hi to the people? The mic is right here. well i'm not talking to them you're not talking to them how rude how long it's gonna be yes um well now that you're here in my lap there's really no reason for me to move so i guess it's gonna be as long as it is wow no i mean you expect you don't you you can't move now i'm sure i could get out no no, no. I just mean like you shouldn't. You know, we don't want them to see anything. Oh, my gosh. Luke, please help.

Luke can't help you. We're live. Look, he's at the studio. He's 20 minutes away. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Anyway. Yes.

How long are you going to be? I don't know. Like six inches as far as you know. Oh, my goodness. Bye-bye. As far as you know, what would that even mean in this context? There's this hyper sexist joke that my father used to tell all the time. Oh God, we should probably just not.

Yeah. You've got one hour left as CEO. Yeah. okay we should probably just not yeah well i have to see you yeah the point is it's a variation of that men lie about how big an inch is okay yeah um so you know i lied to her about how much an inch is okay i's six i got you i got you i got you yeah yeah all right okay i will actually send her a message with an eta i figure you know maybe like another 30 minutes that sounds about reasonable probably about right yeah all right let's do it okay let's see do it boys uh have you ever wanted to or been asked to flex your internet clout for your kids for their education or otherwise um no that's the thing about being internet famous is that in the real world day to day it doesn't matter no one cares like their music teacher doesn't know who i am. And doesn't like if I'm like, which I haven't tried, because

that would be lame. But they don't care about that. Like when I'm, it's only occasionally that I will meet parents even who, who recognize me on the playground or whatever else most people. And I know it's hard for us to wrap our brains around as the perpetually online generation. Most people are not on YouTube very much. Not on Twitter at all. That's really good. No, it hasn't really come up. Occasionally their friends will talk about it,

but it's usually to ask me like if I know cool YouTubers like Mark Rober or Mr. Beast. Most of them don't care about me. Poor guy. Radioactive says, I'm a YouTuber. Normal people. Okay. Yeah. Most of them will just ask me, oh, what's that like?

They're just genuinely curious because they don't know anyone who's a YouTuber and they've never thought about it. It took me quite a few attempts with one of my aunties to explain how we have a company with at the time like 10 people just like okay okay okay okay okay okay you upload videos question mark mark, question mark, question mark, profit. I'm like, oh my God, Antique. It's like TV, okay? You got ads, right? Okay, on YouTube, we got ads. Money.

She's like, oh, okay. So maybe this is the last time I have to explain this. But that's the thing is she's not stupid not even a little bit she's just never thought about it before that's that's how it is it's always good to to have those grounding experiences i think i think it's really important to meet people who don't know and don't care who the crap you are. I forget who it was. I think it might have been Mr. Beast. Sent out a tweet like ages ago. I think it was Mr. Beast. Maybe it was someone else. But it was basically like, okay, this person's walking up to me. They must be a big fan.

Do they want a picture? Do they want an autograph? The person comes up, excuse me, I think you took my shopping cart. Ego deflated. I think it was him. Maybe it was someone else. But I think those experiences are really important because it's really easy for me in my daily life, surrounded by people whose literal job is to try to do what I ask them to do,

to reflect on that most people don't give two f try to do what I ask them to do, um, to reflect on that. Most people don't give two f**ks what I do. Do people ever recognize you as the wrong person? People ever go like, Oh, Hey, you're that guy from, and then you like give them a second to respond.

And then they say something just like, Oh, you've never even heard of. No, I have like hyper generic white guy syndrome where i have that happen like decently often some some dude walked past me in greece and was like hey you're on youtube and i was like yeah and he was like you're that like i think it was like nintendo or something he's like you're that like nintendo reviewer guy and i was like no had you even done like a switch review because you did technically i did but he he named someone

and i looked them up when i got back and yeah it's just some other white dude with a beard um he does like some nintendo content or something i don't remember the channel name uh but that's not the only time that's happened to me that's happened to me like a few times uh to the point where if people don't immediately recognize me i often like give them a second because i'm like they might actually think i'm somebody else which i i think is pretty funny but yeah okay up next. Listening from SpaceX here. Had anyone used Microsoft Bob back in the day? I was six at the time. It was fun for me at least.

Need a 4K remake. Microsoft Bob? I don't think I ever used this. The origin of Comic Sans. I probably did, but it was like 25 years ago or whatever. Hmm. Yeah, sorry. I don't have any experience with it.

I don't think I do either. I don't think many people do, surprisingly. It failed terribly. That's the origin of Comic Sans, really. Yes, it was written for Microsoft Bob. I think Microsoft Bob was supposed to be a more approachable computer interface, and your rooms of the house were various things that you could do with your computer. Like you'd go to your office to write emails, that sort of thing.

That was kind of the concept, and it had the friendly dog. Remember Windows XP had that dog That was kind of the concept. And it had the friendly dog. Remember Windows XP had that dog character that would pop up when you tried to search for stuff? That was the origin in Microsoft Bot. Wait, and this was real? People could use this? This was an operating system.

Like it was shipped? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I feel like we need to make a video on this. It's horrific. It's a really interesting concept. But yeah, I don't know. Wow.

Failed. Failed very badly. Yeah. This is your whole computer. This is just... This is your operating system. It's like a cartoon house. That's really wacky. Okay, next up.

Hello, Linus, Luke, and Dan. My water bottle, lttstore.com, fell off my forklift and the lid broke. It got me wondering, what is the most expensive thing Linus has broken? A $10,000 CPU, 100%. 100%. Good evening, LLND. With how hard Costco, the alarm is going off, has been cracking down on, you got it, Luke? Membership sharing lately. Are they just as bad as Netflix or are they justified given their different market?

I think that hmm oh man this is a tough one on the one hand i i get it costco's membership fee is designed for a single family unit living at the same address. They can't have everyone in the store sharing a flipping card. So for those of you who are who are new to this controversy, Costco has started checking ID at the checkout to make sure you're actually using your own Costco card. However, the world is in a really scary place right now for a lot of people. And food costs are a huge part of that. They're spiking hard too.

Costco, if you split a card and you split the bulk groceries you can buy, is such a like such a hack right like that's such a that's such an effective understandable relatable way to do something anything about rising food costs and i don't know man it's uh it's tough right because on the one hand i i wouldn't condone you know theft um but on the other hand i'm not going to tell you not to do it what would you think about what do you think about if you if you just like scheduled a time to go to the store with that person and you just buy everything all at once well yeah i mean but people aren't doing that they're just sharing the card and costco

won't prevent you from doing that yeah from buying groceries for someone else um yeah this is a this is a really tough one because like it's one of those it's one of those questions right where it's like is this morally wrong yes would you do it to save your family so they eat yes immediately yeah without question without hesitation right so it's yeah i i without even thinking about it yeah and then when i thought about it i would do it anyway you know yeah so yeah that's uh i'm not going to say to do it. Anyway. I'm just going to say be smart.

Hey Linus, what are some subtle changes you can foresee happening as a result of the new CEO? Will Taron do things like host TechLink and become directly involved in LTT videos like you often are? No. No. No. I don't want to be and I don't think he wants to be. I think that the subtle changes you're going to see are that things are just going to operate a little more smoothly. Hopefully.

In fact, if he's doing his job really well, you might never notice he's even here. I don't want to see an increase in, you know, complaints on Glassdoor about our company. I don't want to, I don't want to see us cutting back employee perks. Luke, have we ever cut back a perk? Trying to think, been here for a long time. I can think of one actually. What? No, no, I'll let you think.

Oh, wait, I can think of one too. too i got one i'm actually surprised that i got one but i got one yeah you used to be able to just like take home basically whatever you wanted um as long as it didn't like impact um you know like like you could borrow a camera on a weekend stuff like that uh but it just as the company scaled it was just impossible to keep doing properly so we had to stop got untenable but that was the one that i thought of the one that i thought of was the um the free house cleaning once every two weeks that didn't no that doesn't count you're wrong Wrong! Oh yeah, that wasn't a... Fake news! That wasn't a perk.

That was a one-time thing that we got exactly one year of. Luke's correcting me right now. Yvonne corrected me over my shoulder. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Okay, it was a one-time bonus. We have extended one-time bonuses in the past, but yes, we were under no obligation to extend this one. You guys are right yeah um but i think overall so my follow-up question luke is what's the cadence at which we add new perks for many years i didn't really know about them because i wasn't in the lmg

space and just nobody told me anything um so when I rejoined, I was like, whoa, there's all these things. So I don't really know. I don't know what the cadence is, but it must be decent because there was a lot of stuff that I came back to. Yeah, like Summer of Fun and the quarterly things for for all the different departments so they can have little quarterly events and the like quarterly snacks and the snacks at work and all those things there's a lot of stuff yeah don't forget the grsp that one actually cost us a lot of money that i mean we do it about once a year uh we do it at least once a year is what we kind of have aimed for.

That's not necessarily to say that we can do that forever. It all comes back to like, I want to be a real company. So we try, but it's not always going to be possible. And sometimes it's a one-shot thing. Sometimes it's ongoing. And I don't want that to change. That's the point. Hey, wan.d DLL happy Canada Day sorry if asked before is the translucent screwdriver going to be a product

hopefully I actually wasn't sure if he was frozen or not. I looked up and he hadn't moved at all and I was like, uh oh. He was slowly getting closer. Hi Linus. I just yanked the LAN cable so I wouldn't have to address that. Top secret. Oh, there's too many backups. I can't do that anymore. This is Luke's fault.

Got him. Hi Linus. I'm likely going to be a boss next week for many people. And honestly, it scares me a little bit. I would like to ask you, were you nervous about being a boss for other people? Oh, man. Okay. Once again, I think Luke can probably speak to this because he watched me do it. I've been there pretty much the whole time.

Yeah, I don't know. Sure. There's different levels of being a boss um like originally my my first form of a boss employee interaction with linus i wasn't even technically an employee as a contractor but whatever. And when I had certain types of complaints, he would just be like, I don't know, nothing I can do about it. Which is sometimes true and that sucks. But then I also transitioned with Linus into a position where he couldn't say that because he was, he had, you know, full veto power control over the entire company because he owned the whole thing. And yeah, I don't know know it seems fine the whole way but I think I'm probably a not the most normal person to be a boss of so I don't know what that means how often is it these days I can't I don't imagine it's that much nowadays you're pretty

good these days the worst you do these days is just not being where i expect to find you and that's half the time because i am not up to date on where you're supposed to be and then the other half the time it's just usually legacy stuff um like what what legacy stuff well oh boy okay so we're gonna do this okay yeah so luke has a reputation that he has built over the years for being a little slow to get back to people yes so people will complain but a lot of the time it's no slower than anyone else would have been these days. And it is too slow. But they're so frustrated because they have this history with Luke. So I'd say that's the biggest complaint I ever hear about you.

And it doesn't come up much anymore. Yeah, that's fair enough. It's like asymptotic at this point. There's still definitely problems there, but I'm working on it. It's been getting better. I have this thing where when stuff gets spicy, when work's getting hard, I will tunnel in on the work. But due to my position, I actually can't really do that. You can't do it anymore, man.

I have to be communicative. really do that. You can't do it anymore, man. I have to, I have to be communicative. So sometimes I have to like remind myself like, oh man, I've been tunneled in on this for like two or three days. This is really bad. I need to like step back, look at my various inboxes, make sure that people are in the know about what's going on, do all these different types of things. And then when I try to step back into it, I need to not 100% dive in because I need to let myself get taken out of flow extremely often. Because what my job more is, is being the person that gets jammed out of flow all the time so that I can keep my team in flow and working on things and cruising smoothly. So, yeah, it's getting better. It's not perfect at all yeah. It's getting better. It's not perfect at all,

but it's getting better. LLD, if you could take over one other YouTube channel, what channel would you take over? Also, why isn't there a LTX water bottle? That's a weird question because if I like a channel a lot, I might not want to take it over

because i might just be happy with how they're doing it there was one that i wanted to buy at one point i wanted to buy killian experience because i just had this idea in my mind that we could be more than an mcn we could acquire channels and i was you know i was kind of ahead of my time in terms of coming up with that idea, but behind the times in terms of having any money. And he seems super cool. I haven't actually talked to him since then, which is like eight years ago or something like that. Love his content.

And I just, I knew that he wasn't putting a lot of time into the channel. And I was like, this seems like a win-win. We have sponsor sales infrastructure and you have great content that you are not monetizing to the greatest degree that you can so you're not full-time i don't know if he's full-time now but killing experience i uh i loved the videos that i came across and was just like yeah this seems like uh like an up-and-comer and actually i haven't i haven't crept his channel recently i just looked he hasn't released anything in three months but it looks like that's relatively normal for his channel.

Oh that's normal. Yeah, and then everything's a banger. Yeah, he's still doing good. It's all so good. He's still doing good. It used to be bigger bangers. Still doing pretty good though. Still solid. Yeah.

Still solid. Yeah. Yeah. Love the attitude. All right. love the attitude all right as someone who is currently weaning myself off of reddit due to recent controversies is there any conflict either morally or financially with working with a subreddit not that pc mr is the problem i was trying to respond to this in text i think it's like way too broad um because they even address in the thing they're saying not that PCMR is a problem.

Yeah. So working with PCMR is fine. We think working with PCMR is fine. We might also think working with some other Reddit is not fine. Like it's Reddit is so broad. But also the people that are on Reddit is not the problem that Reddit's currently having. It's the leadership of Reddit. The page row is not the the problem that reddit's currently having it's the leadership is not the problem yeah so if you're working with a subreddit well you're not working with reddit so like

but you're indirectly supporting reddit but also why should they suffer it's a maybe pcm i know i understand that pcmr is effectively a subreddit but pcmr isn't only necessarily a subreddit like pcmr could't only necessarily a subreddit. Like PCMR could spread out. Yeah, but they're not 100% tied to that. I don't think supporting PCMR only supports Reddit. And if you're talking about indirect support, you could say that about so many things.

We're streaming on Twitch right now. Are we supporting Amazon? Not much. Amazon uses internet and power and stuff from some other companies are we supporting them like where does it end right it's a it's a rough it is something that i do think people should consider but you kind of need to frame that yourself and clearly we're okay with working with PCMR. So yeah. Yep. Linus, what's your realistic end goal for Linus Media Group? And how would it change if money was no object? Money is no object.

You know, we're at a point now where if we wanted to take on a minority investor, we could raise tens of millions of dollars and really add rocket fuel to the growth that we're experiencing right now. But that's not something we're going to do. That's not a goal that has been put on the incoming CEO's plate. Realistic end goal. You know, if you'd asked me this two years ago, I would have had no idea. But you're asking me now. And I was trying to shop. Well, not shop, but i was trying to research a

product and it was for an upcoming budget power supply roundup that's right power supply testers working uh so it was for an upcoming power supply roundup and i was just trying to find a freaking product page a product page with actual like msrp pricing that is in stock at an actual trusted retailer, not some marketplace nonsense. And it was really hard. Newegg and Amazon are just wastelands at this point. Micro Center, because of their brick and mortar nature, doesn't carry as much variety as I would like. I can't just lean on them as a one-stop shop where I can get pricing information from everyone. It's frustrating. And so I would have said that Amazon had eTail on lock three years ago, that no one will ever, ever be able to offer a value that would

push people away from them. But I don't think that's true anymore. What if we went full circle? away from them, but I don't think that's true anymore. What if we went full circle? What if the labs validated products? And, you know, labstested.com or something was a computer and electronics retailer where we took no manufacturer information. Everything, every product is tested and validated and presented in a way that is understandable and helps you shop instead of helping sponsored, you know, rando companies ship cheap crap to you, right? Like through drop shipping. I don't know. Full circle? Time flat circle? Retail empire?

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Nothing's impossible. Exciting. Okay. Linus, as presented thus far, is an incredibly humble human being. I curated this.

Obviously. While the resource is available, doing good work takes a priority over maximizing profits. This employer style is rare. Opinions? I don't think it used to be. it used to be. And but I'm obviously, you know, I wasn't there. But the march towards prioritizing corporate profits over people has been measurable, right? Like it's I don't know, I have I have really good people around me, I can't take the credit for it. I think that's the that's the truth. That's the truth.

Like between Yvonne and Luke and Nick, I'm not going to name everyone because I'm just going to name like ones that have been around for a long time and make it kind of a mission to keep me in my place, right? I have a lot of help. I think that when you live in a bubble where everyone tells you how incredible and humble you are, right? It's easy to believe it. And I think a lot of people fall for that

trap. So I, I rely on honest people who know me, I think care about me and, and care about our company and the people that work under them and, you know, real people, right? I rely on them to, you know, tell me if I'm doing something wrong. And I have to give myself some credit for it, obviously. Like, I don't fire people for being naysayers. Like, that's obviously something I could have done years ago. But I can't take the credit, obviously. You need help to stay grounded.

Question for Luke. Today, Kotaku reported that Ubisoft is allegedly remaking Assassin's Creed Black Flag. What impact do you think this will have on Skull & Bones? Does this excite you honestly when i first read that i immediately just assumed that it uh it was skull and bones because they've pivoted what they want skull and bones to be like a million times like i actually

they have fully changed design direction i believe this is off the top of my head i might be wrong more than five times um so like and then honestly when skull and bones was first announced a bunch of people were like oh it's black fight 2 and they're like no it's not huh and people are like, oh, why not? Right? So, like, maybe they're finally just going like, oh, yeah, maybe we should just do that. But I don't know if you did say remake, right? So maybe they're just, like, remastering it. If that's the case, like, sure.

The only part of the game that I liked was being on the pirate ship. And honestly, in that zoomed out being on the pirate ship and honestly in that zoomed out view of a pirate ship it's fine i don't actually need another one um so like i don't know sure four thousand by the way tie-dye backpack no not anytime soon sorry i accidentally pushed that one to stream and i meant to reply to it in text. Okay cool. Up next, what happened to the water-cooled RED 8K camera? Is it still in use? It is not. RED offered to convert it back to not water-cooled for us and we said, hmm that actually sounds pretty practical. Hey.dll show. I work in a small company. We use bad software that wastes time and no one likes,

but the boss keeps. What's the hardest thing you had to let go of to avoid the sunk cost fallacy? Hangouts. No, probably not. Hardest thing that we had to let go of. The inventory system? Yeah. That's a pretty good one. We used to use this inventory system called Asset Manager, I think. I think so. That's right. And it was fine. And Snipe It is better. Yeah.

And we can develop for Snipe It, whereas Asset Manager, as far as we could tell, not only were they not doing anything with our requests, they weren't developing it at all anymore. Yeah. Yeah, that was a painful transition. We're still running into problems from that. Someone just said Colton.

That was Crynox in Flowplane Chat.ikes very good very funny hi lmg team been a watcher since the langley house what's the backstory of the linus selfie pic it's hilarious but i've always wondered what it means in context what what oh man. If you just go to Know Your Meme, I think they've got the link to the original tweet. And that is actually it. That was the whole thing. I was working on a phone review and I was looking at the selfie camera

and I noticed that the camera distorts toward the edge of the frame. And I was like, heeorts toward the edge of the frame. And I was like, hee hee, this looks kind of silly. That tweet has only... Wow, this is really obnoxious. It's very annoying. The Know Your Meme says it got over 150 retweets and 1,700 likes in two months.

Okay, it has like 7,000 likes now, but that was it. That wasn't getting engagement anymore at that point. It wasn't even a viral tweet. It was just a picture that went viral completely independent of my own social media following. That's it. That's the whole story. People just thought it was funny. that's it that's the whole story people just thought it was funny i work quality assurance at a plastic injection molding company what sort of qa work went into the screwdriver design is it just fit form and function or did you do detailed dimensional

inspection gd and t tools used what a fantastic question for our engineers who would be able to answer that for you i do not know the answer to that i'm very sorry um yeah even if we didn't do it i would have to imagine that innovative tool and die did some stuff because they're super experienced a super experienced mold maker and they're not cheap but um who knows maybe not idll great show will the noctua screwdriver be a limited edition or will they berlin available forever will they be available forever um everything's limited edition nothing's available forever but we don't have any immediate plans to discontinue it but we don't have any immediate plans to discontinue it. Linus and Luke, what are some parts of your job that you enjoy that people wouldn't usually think as of your job?

Oh, Wanshow. Oh, wait, that people wouldn't think of as my job. Okay, that's my job. No, no, that you enjoy. I enjoy Wanshow. What are some parts of your job that people wouldn't usually think of as your job. No, there's the your job part is. Parts of your job. I think people pretty much know what my job is, right?

Whatever. I enjoy WAN show. There. I mean, script review, maybe? Yeah, I don't know. No, I don't enjoy that i i like when we do um like creative days and hackathons and things like that because i like seeing um developers take creativity into their own hands and then run with it and make something i find that to be very cool hey d, I'm currently in the process of purchasing my first home. Linus, what's something you've learned in your years as a homeowner that you wish you knew sooner or think everyone should know? Oh, preventative maintenance, man. Do it. Just do it. It's worth it. And even then, stuff will happen. And if it wasn't for rent costs being out of control

because of a variety of factors, whether it's career landlords or corporate landlords or Airbnbs pushing out what should be purchasable or rental units, even if it wasn't for all of that, I'd say renting is a pretty sick option. But these days it's a pretty if it was if it wasn't for all of that i'd say renting is a pretty sick option but these days it's um it's a pretty diseased option with abuse yeah it's tough when deciding what parts of your life to make content out of is there any time where you

wanted to make a video but decided to keep it private i find myself trying to live in the moment camera-less um our corporate christmas party especially the first one i think that the self-serving way to handle the bonus that we did for everyone was to make a video about it to try to earn back some of the money we spent and, you know, get some community positivity from, you know, treating our staff well, you know, that sort of thing. But we made the decision at that one. And we've never gone back on it, that the Christmas party is a time for people to not work. Yvonne and I get help, but we do, particularly Yvonne, the vast majority of the planning and day-to-day running of it. The help we've gotten, I don't want to, oh, I want to shout out the people who helped us, like Special Agent Janice helped us

out with the last one. Starf, Colton's SO helped us out with the last one, but neither of them were staffed. So we want it to be as much of a surprise and as much of a special non-monetizable experience for the staff as possible. And we don't want anyone to worry about anything that, because we do silly stuff, right? Like we play wedding games and stuff like that. And I don't

want anybody to be worried about it going up in a video right like i want people to be able to really cut loose so uh the christmas show also has a special carve out for our no drinking at work events policy it's just the one night of the year that's like you don't have to come but you better be there you know yeah okay how often should you replace hard drives on a pc are they a dead technology oh no they're not dead as for how often to replace them i mean that really depends on how well protected they are like if you've got them in a raid with a second copy somewhere i'd say replace them when they die if you you've got one hard drive, man, I don't even know what the right answer to this is. I'd say at the end of warranty, you're probably getting to the point where it'll start to, it's life expectation, life expectancy is going to start to fall down. Oh man, I'm so tired.

You can check for bad sectors and stuff too. I like Linus's answer of like, it should ideally not be the only thing you're relying on. should it should ideally not be the only thing you're relying on that one drive shouldn't be the only thing you're relying on so if it if it dies it should just be a replace it moment but if it is for some reason and you are worried about it it's a pretty sketchy spot to be in i would check bad sectors every now and then but i've had certain drives last for man forever basically yeah and then i've had other drives that that conk really quickly so i putting a date on it would be hard that'd be tough one thing i'll tell you for sure is that before i transferred everything over to my next one drive that's going to hold everything i would um run

that other drive for like a while like a Yeah. Make sure you didn't get a lemon. Do you want to do this last one? Sure. Linus, and it's an incoming. Linus and creative team, do you have a process or go to habit to disappear? I think everyone's a little bit different when they're experiencing a creative block or a rut. I know some of the writers like to go out into the lab

and work on the couches. I like to go for a walk in the warehouse and just look at tech and see if I get inspired. I'll look at the incoming items and I'll see if anything just kind of like sparks something in me. I think everyone kind of has their own processes, but maybe that is something that we should do more coaching on. It's a good, it's a really good, really good idea. You know what else is a good idea? Calling it for tonight. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. you